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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up. Welcome into Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones, joined as always by

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Speaker 1: Brian Broadus, Mickey Spagnola, Kent Garrison producing as well. We've

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Speaker 1: got a big show for you guys today as the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys get back to practice on a Wednesday. Get ready

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Speaker 1: for those Seattle Seahawks. How is everybody? I'm good, got

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Speaker 1: your new Tommy John guy. You know what I forgot

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Speaker 1: to take them out of my back. I actually can

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Speaker 1: raise my hand on that one. Yes, I was interested,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, I mean I we have them,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of like, you know, thank you Tommy

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Speaker 1: John for providing him. But yeah, the styles, I mean

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Speaker 1: the with the cowboy one? Just because it was the

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Speaker 1: first one I grabbed out of the pack and say

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Speaker 1: John's today, guys too, Should Tom John's over here all right?

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Speaker 1: Should I save that for game day? You need to

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Speaker 1: be at your best on game day day, but you

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Speaker 1: need to be your best every day, isn't there what

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett tells us regardless of circumstance. Yeah, but especially

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Speaker 1: on game day. On game day, yeah, okay, to be

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Speaker 1: a ten of Yes. No, you can't have no wedgies,

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Speaker 1: wedgie free. This is a wedgie free show. This is

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Speaker 1: not a seahawk free show. Today they'll start breaking them

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Speaker 1: down today. We did a little bit yesterday. I thought, Brian,

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Speaker 1: by the way you on on the website today, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna start diving into it. You're to have your three

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Speaker 1: key guys, right, the Nemesis, the Weapon, and the under

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Speaker 1: the radar. So if you can check that out, that

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Speaker 1: should be up here in a little bit. I bet

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Speaker 1: I know one of them. Give me one of them.

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Speaker 1: I bet j Mickey could talk about my first guy,

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Speaker 1: Earl Thomas on that list. Nemesis. Yeah, that's yours. I

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Speaker 1: think he's my weapon, he's your weapon, he's my webon weapon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's the weapon. Well, and I think he's the weapon

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Speaker 1: because of what we what we potentially what we went

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Speaker 1: through last week with Landing Collins, that if you get

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Speaker 1: a guy that plays at some depth that can come

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Speaker 1: forward and make tackles and create problems for you, you know,

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Speaker 1: with no Cam Chancellor, they don't have that ability. They

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Speaker 1: need somebody that sits in the back and and comes

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Speaker 1: flying up to make those plays. So that's that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the weapon that they're gonna have to do. He's

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Speaker 1: a guy, and we have to be careful with this too. Boys.

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Speaker 1: Is if you get uh Dak Prescott running the football,

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Speaker 1: things where he's keeping, that's a little bit different. Cat.

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Speaker 1: We saw what happened when Jalen Smith gets ahead of

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Speaker 1: steam coming forward. Same thing can happen with Earl Thomas

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Speaker 1: with him creating turnovers, not only interceptions, but also the fumbles.

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Speaker 1: This guy's always ripping at the ball. He's always trying

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Speaker 1: to be careful with him. He's just still plays at

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Speaker 1: a tremendously high level. Missus all the training camp and

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Speaker 1: you he's always going to be around the football and

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Speaker 1: he's always gonna be physical finishing. So those are things

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Speaker 1: you have to be worried about with him, and that's

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Speaker 1: I went back and watched the game for Monday night

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Speaker 1: specifically to see him. Now, I didn't have the all

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Speaker 1: it's hard to see the secondary. The stats said he

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for twenty nine and I see him coming

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Speaker 1: You know, when you when you start bringing up Earl Thomas,

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Speaker 1: I still think Earl Thomas is an elite player. Me

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Speaker 1: and I understand Mickey what you saw, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is the coverage safety in that group. You know,

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Speaker 1: And you're absolutely right. I think to me it would

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Speaker 1: it's worth it to go get Earl Thomas. But necessarily now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying there's other trade opportunities out there

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Speaker 1: left my release behind. I wanted to look at the schedule.

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Speaker 1: Here you go, buddy, which side of the ball needs

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Speaker 1: help more? See that's where that's okay. This will lead

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Speaker 1: me to another question. If you going, let's keep going.

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Speaker 1: If you could trade for a position to help this team,

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Speaker 1: right now, what would you trade for? Just a position?

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Speaker 1: is there a position that you would consider trading for?

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Speaker 1: That was question number five that I had on this list.

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Speaker 1: If you could trade for a position to help this team,

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Speaker 1: coffee on it or something. Any position? Yeah, is there

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Speaker 1: a position that you would trade for? Well, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: the point now where you know what, I'm okay, let's

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Speaker 1: bring Schultz back and I'm gonna sit Blake Jarwin for

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Speaker 1: You're up first on Talking Cowboys. Hey, how is it

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Speaker 1: going guys? Good? Thanks for having me? Um? Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 1: do you think the loggown we have a receiver's kind

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Speaker 1: take the job. Do you think it should just maybe

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Speaker 1: give a chance to a couple of guys like a

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Speaker 1: think Thompson should get for a shot. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: looks pretty good. I think he he got two catches

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Speaker 1: called back to a penalty and he still ended up

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Speaker 1: with four. So um. And also, do you think they

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Speaker 1: trust now Frazier maybe with Wood at the same time

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Speaker 1: on the field. Um, I'll take your your answers, Hey,

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Speaker 1: who would be your who would be your top three receivers?

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna say Hearns, Thompson and Gallup not. Um, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe the answer I think maybe knows yet maybe any

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Speaker 1: of them. Maybe that's the top four at this point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then that's it leads to me one of my questions,

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to take one of those, Yes,

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Speaker 1: did you expect Deontay Thompson to be better at this

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Speaker 1: point than Alan Hearns? Um? No, I didn't. I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I expected we didn't see enough of Thompson in preseason.

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Speaker 1: I didn't at least to really know kind of what

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Speaker 1: he could do for them, what his role might be. Sure, Um,

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Speaker 1: we were all kind of man. We remember had this

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Speaker 1: discussion about Alan Hearns when we always talk about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: who are the five wide receivers? Alan Hearns gets thrown

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Speaker 1: in there immediately as one of the guys. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if necessarily Alan Hearns is better than Deontay

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Speaker 1: Thompson at least at this point. You know, if you

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Speaker 1: looked at Thompson's numbers from last year, yeah, combined sure,

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Speaker 1: from the Bears and the Bills. Bills, Yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: the opportunity he can Nope, not at all. Sanjay Law

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Speaker 1: he said, I can't believe he hasn't stuck somewhere because

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. He's a professional. And what you

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Speaker 1: wrote in the mail bag answer today is he's more

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Speaker 1: of a complete player. Maybe they thought he is. He's

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Speaker 1: you know, you watch him when they run stuff to

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Speaker 1: got he's got physical, he's got size, he'll go into traffic,

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Speaker 1: he'll do some nasty things for you as far as

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Speaker 1: going inside to catch balls. And they still haven't sent him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm you know, I thought he was going to be good.

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Speaker 1: But I thought that Alan Hurns at this point in

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Speaker 1: time would probably have his type of number, more targets

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Speaker 1: and more. But but he he has outplayed her in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, he has. And for a guy that didn't

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Speaker 1: really impressive about him. You know, and I don't want

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Speaker 1: to argue with Luis because Gallup's got to be in there.

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Speaker 1: But if you're gonna have three, I think they have

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Speaker 1: four at this point. You think they're concerned about Gallup.

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Speaker 1: I think they were worried about his consistency of how

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Speaker 1: he runs his routes. That's fair, Yeah, that is fair.

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Speaker 1: And is that to be a little expected or by now?

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Speaker 1: Oh it's at cars State. Though he was a good

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Speaker 1: route runner there made the nuances of having a run routes.

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Speaker 1: In the National Football League, it always looks like he's

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Speaker 1: he's fighting to get open and that's why he draws

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Speaker 1: penalties because guys are trying to fight him. But he's

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Speaker 1: playing a little bit off balance right now. So I

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Speaker 1: think on that deep route, yeah, I think, And you

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Speaker 1: know it got pointed out. You know, he got pushed.

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Speaker 1: He didn't red line it. Yeah, as they say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no red line, but in the practice field, there's

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Speaker 1: a red line where you want to stay so many

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Speaker 1: yards away from the sideline. So the quarterback has a

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Speaker 1: spot to drop it when you've got the dB on

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Speaker 1: your left, on your left hip right and he got

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Speaker 1: too close to the sideline. I think they were maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit worried about that and catching the ball

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Speaker 1: no problem, you know, and when he's open, he's good. Yeah. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe they're slit there looking at that and

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Speaker 1: going we need to get him going. Yeah. That's maybe

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you bring in Bryce Butler,

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Speaker 1: you know, because you're thinking, oh, okay, well we need

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Speaker 1: I'm not against. I think you have to throw Michael

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Speaker 1: Gallop out there and let him play. I do too.

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Speaker 1: Don't don't don't sit there. Don't sit there and say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: for two weeks or training camp, you've been feeding him stuff,

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Speaker 1: feeding him stuff, and then and then have him going

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Speaker 1: that you don't need that he's gonna be active. Do

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Speaker 1: you think you think Bryce is active Sunday. Well, we

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Speaker 1: talked to him yesterday. He didn't know what his role

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Speaker 1: would be. He said, look, we haven't had a practice set.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, we need we need to. The great

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Speaker 1: thing about living in this building is we'll figure it out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: by Friday. By Friday will have this thing. See what

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Speaker 1: they think they can get out of it. I mean

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Speaker 1: at lease he has been to training camp, yes, but

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Speaker 1: he hadn't done anything in a couple of weeks. That's right,

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Speaker 1: So he knows the general system though. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 1: a little different than last year. But I think more

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Speaker 1: from a physical standpoint, yeah, than knowing. I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: only so many routes you can run. Right by the way.

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Speaker 1: The receiving stats, this is what it is through two games,

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Speaker 1: Beasley as your leader, nine catches eighty six yards, then

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Speaker 1: Zeke eight for twenty six, then Thompson seven for sixty

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Speaker 1: eight point six per catch, and then you've got Swaying

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Speaker 1: with three and then four guys with two. Yeah, Tavon, Hearns,

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Speaker 1: Terrence and Gallop. That's where you are right now. That's

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Speaker 1: where you are. I don't think I mean to answer

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Speaker 1: Luise's question to me, it's still too early to know

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Speaker 1: I feel like they do feel comfortable about Frasier playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they asked you if if Frasier has to go out

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Speaker 1: guys come off the field. That's we've seen this team

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00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: rotate safeties before. Yeah, they just couldn't do it the

633
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season, but they'll rotate him

634
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: now now they got they got their guy back. Frasier's

635
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: earned those snaps absolutely. Yes, Yeah, so too amazing. What

636
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: happens when you play somebody, Yeah, you find out, you

637
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: find out either they can play or another. Got any

638
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: more questions for you know, I do bring it, you know,

639
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I got some questions. Mickey Spagnola more surprised of his

640
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: play Taco Charlton or Tavon Austin Taco. I expected something

641
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: out of Tavon, uh, because I at least we'd seen

642
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: something from him previously with the Rams before last year.

643
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: But was it like this? But Taco, Yeah, I mean

644
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: the guy the like the like they come back in

645
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: two years before he heard his wrist, he combined for

646
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: ninety catches as and he wasn't like a, that's my

647
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. So he had done it before, Taco,

648
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen it. There were times in trainee camp

649
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: where you're going he still can't stay on his feet. Yeah,

650
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,320
Speaker 1: and now he comes out here and played more snaps

651
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: in the first two games. He might have played more

652
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: snaps in the first two games than he did his

653
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 1: career year. He got his letter jacket already. Yeah, it's

654
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: pretty He had fifty seven snaps I believe I saw

655
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: from I think he surprised the coaches myself. I mean,

656
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: I think he's done more than just be a pass rusher, right, yeah, Oh,

657
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: he he played the run. Yeah, and you're right, he's

658
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: playing about double snaps than he averaged. How about the

659
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: smart play him too? Just falling on that fumble. How

660
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: many times we've seen those guys kicked the ball and

661
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden Beckham runs over there and falls

662
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: on it. You know, my gosh, he did the right thing.

663
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Eighty seven percent of the of this eighty eighty four percent.

664
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Speaker 1: What's that? What's that on your legal pad in front

665
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: of you? Right? Is that Pro Football Focus? Uh No,

666
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: this is official NFL stats, Football Focus, right, official NFL stats.

667
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm surprised with with Taco is as myself. I am too.

668
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: What about rob Um Probably Taco I want. I'm pleasantly

669
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: surprised with how they were able to connect deep with

670
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Dak and table. I mean, that's what this offense needs. Yeah,

671
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: they need that juice. I want to see more from

672
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: Tavon got ten snaps in the week one opener he

673
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: got I think like eighteen last week. Can they bump

674
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: it into the twenties maybe? Yeah? Eighteen snaps thirty Yeah, yeah,

675
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: I could read that. Maybe a little more, bump that up.

676
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: But then who's who? I don't know, which, I don't know.

677
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: But the way, just the way he started that game

678
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: though he was on fire, you know, maybe a little

679
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: bit more, a little bit more of ten next question,

680
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: it wasn't even a fancy route. He just stutter stepped

681
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: and he came back to the ball though, man, no

682
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I met the deep stutter stepped. They got a lull

683
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Jenkins into But that's what speed will do for you.

684
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Here's my next question for the panel. It's Chris Raschard

685
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: really the defensive coordinator. I think he's had a significant

686
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: influence on the amount of aggressiveness, especially on the Nickel defense. Yeah,

687
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: he is the passing game coordinator, so does that every

688
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: time him? Every time they passed, they Chris called the defense.

689
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they're not telling us, well, I'm

690
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: sure it's on Nickel. Yeah, I don't know that he

691
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: calls it, but I think he maybe they with the

692
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: that's what the plan is. It is. Do you think

693
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: when they go to the sidelines and they talk about it,

694
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: it's Chris. I mean, we have the sideline audio, we

695
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: put that together, and Chris is always coaching somebody. Yeah,

696
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: he's coach. He's grabbing somebody and coaching somebody here. And

697
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: by the way, I think he plays a big role

698
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: in what happens this week with the with the Seahawks

699
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: knowing what how to attack that, but also give you

700
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of idea about what they can do

701
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: defensively as well. Right, you know that's going to help.

702
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: There's another mail back question today, that is, but your

703
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: question will be answered when there's three guys on Thursday

704
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: taking questions. We should get, we should ask, we should ask.

705
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: He's a coordinator, we should ask, we should we should

706
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: ask for him pass game coordinator. Rod. I think he's

707
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 1: calling the defense. I think I'm with Mickey. I think

708
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of you for not riding the fence. By

709
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: the way, Spagnola didn't ride the fence on that one.

710
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: That was a good one. I think Coach Marinelli thinks

711
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot of this young coach, and I think he

712
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: is giving him some influence and I think he wants

713
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: him to have a true voice in what they're doing.

714
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: So yes, what was your answer? Oh, I would say

715
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: he is everything or just I think that he's I

716
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: think what I think Rod. I think Rod really likes

717
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: dealing with that front, you know, the hot boys. He

718
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: likes being up. I mean, he likes he could focus

719
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: more on his rush if Rochard is called in. Rochard

720
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: is Rod's done this for a long long time. I

721
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: mean when they were doing the slot blitz stuff, you know,

722
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: and all that, that's Rod. But you start bringing linebackers

723
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: and you know, all kinds of that, that's a little

724
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: bit different from what we've seen in the past. We

725
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: saw that in training camp. They oh, I know, but

726
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: that's like christ and the linebackers, Chris Schard wearing cleats

727
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: coaching them up out there. Right, You got some more

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Speaker 1: But I was encouraged because I saw progress. After week one.

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Speaker 1: I was down and I gave him a chance in

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Speaker 1: I was on hold what Brian said about Richards. I

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Speaker 1: was watching sounds of the game on your website, Sure,

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Speaker 1: you gotta forgive yourself. You're a great tackler. And then

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Speaker 1: the next clips of him making the sack. Right, I'm

810
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: all for Shard being our next head coach. And who

811
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: knows what they have in the plan. Sure, the guys,

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Speaker 1: I don't think our offense or our defense has hit

813
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: their ceiling, and I don't think we need to be

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00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: the greatest show on turf. I am so encouraged about defense.

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00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I'm just I'm overwhelmed with our defense and

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Speaker 1: i'd love your thoughts. Thank you, guys. Okay, that's pretty

817
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: good from a pessimist. I think you had to be

818
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Speaker 1: by the second game. I think he's being realistic though,

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00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: and you know, I said it last night. If the

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00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: defense can continue to play the way they're playing and

821
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: give the offense time to develop, then they might have something.

822
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: But they've got to play well defensively so the offense

823
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: can can continue to take their steps forward. They've got

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00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: to have the offense to help them. Though. Yeah, I

825
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: know you're right. I mean, I just the thing I

826
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: worry about, can this offense score enough points? And if

827
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: you could score enough points, you know they're going to

828
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: be in some games where they probably won't be able

829
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: to score some points. But I think that you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna hang the hat on the defense and

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00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: they look like they can, they can take it. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't want this offense to ruin some bad

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00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: some good play by a defense. Nicky. You said this

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00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: again on the Happy Hour Show last night, and it's

835
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: a great point. I mean, there are so many new faces, yeah,

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Speaker 1: on offense, and there's young guys, and there's guys that

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00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: had injuries in preseason, so they do need time. But

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Speaker 1: how much time can you have when, like Brian always says,

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840
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: mean you got to give it maybe a month. Well,

841
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: that's why the defense has to play well. Yeah, yeah,

842
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: it can't be given up twenty some points a game. No,

843
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: because the offense probably can't score twenty some points at

844
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 1: least right now. At least right now now, maybe things

845
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: will change, you know, maybe they get they get development

846
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: from Connor Williams, you get development from Michael Gallup. All

847
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: of a sudden they figure out, hey, you can get

848
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: the ball to Tavon Austin ten times a game. You know,

849
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: all these things have to kind of play out. I think,

850
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: you know, but I know that I know. Dez is

851
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: not there, right, Okay, I get it. They made that decision.

852
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: They did Witton, okay, retire, yes, But the rest of

853
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: the offense, Travis Fredericks the only one missing. And the

854
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 1: first eight games last year, the offense was scoring. Problem

855
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: was yeah, it was Jonathan Cooper like all pro. No,

856
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: he was just and at that time the first couple

857
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: of games, Chaz Green was starting at guard. By god,

858
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 1: but they are working in four new wide receivers, three

859
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: two new tight ends essentially, I understand. But if he

860
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: didn't looking for a reason, if if if you didn't

861
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: want to work in new receivers, you could have Terrence

862
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: Williams and Cole Beasley out there and then one new guy. Right,

863
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: So I'm they scored. They scored those first state games.

864
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: The only game didn't score the opener because the Giants

865
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: they seemed to have trouble scoring against him and Denver

866
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: and everything else. And I said this the other day,

867
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: and you know, it's like Dak put this team on

868
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: his back. He did first eight games, he did. We

869
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: said that, you said last night at the show last night.

870
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,959
Speaker 1: The guy that the gentleman who asked the question didn't

871
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: agree with us, I know, but he did go back

872
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: and look at his stats. He had a hundred over

873
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: one hundred quarterback rate and there was too much on

874
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 1: his plate. My opinion the second half of the season,

875
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: of course, you know, you know, and all and all

876
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the narrative is he's not accurate. Well,

877
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: the first twenty four games of his career he had

878
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: over sixty percent completion. It was like sixty four with

879
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: a one h two quarterback rad. I think he threw

880
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: the ball better last week. And he did, Caroline, he did.

881
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's absolutely don't need some scout to

882
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: tell you that. And he wasn't on his back. Yeah,

883
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: that's true too. So you know, I just give it

884
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: some time for these new receivers and the quarterback and

885
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to say Joe Looney

886
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: because he's been good. Yeah, you know, not great, but good. Yeah.

887
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: And Connor Williams was better the second game. Did he

888
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: take the next step? And the fourth no doubt. You know,

889
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,439
Speaker 1: this was a young team. We spent all summer talking

890
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: about it being a young team, and then when you

891
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: go play, it's like, well that's not an excuse. Well, okay,

892
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: I get it, but you just gotta make progress. And

893
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what everybody's got to hang on to.

894
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: Progress might also mean you lose a game or and

895
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: that's right exactly, and this and this will be a

896
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: heck of a test. I think when you factor in

897
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: the crowd up there desperation, that defense is gonna bring it. Man,

898
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: they always do, so they're gonna be challenging this. I mean,

899
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: did you see how they respond. Did you think this

900
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: team was going twelve and four? Yeah? Right, Yeah, they're

901
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: just a couple of games. I thought they were gonna lose.

902
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,240
Speaker 1: They might actually win if you look at that Houston bunch,

903
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: if they don't get things turned around down there Detroit.

904
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody expected these next three opponents to

905
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: b O and two. No, not nobody did. I wish

906
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: I could feel better about Blank on this team. I

907
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: wish I could feel better about Blank on this team.

908
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: It didn't have to be a player, or I wish

909
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: I could feel better about Blank. I think you just

910
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: said it. I think we just talked. Probably we probably

911
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: just answered that question. It's for me, It's it's I

912
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: feel really given him time, feel really good about this defense.

913
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: And I think if you can get Randy Gregory and

914
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: David Irving back in two weeks, Wow, there's there's a

915
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: lot of potential there. I would like to feel better

916
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: about their Jones played pretty good this summer. I mean,

917
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm getting back in there yet. I would like to

918
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: feel better about their ability to sustain drives offensively there.

919
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: I just we just haven't seen it with consistency yet.

920
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: We talked about the lull they had after the ten

921
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: points early against the Giants. I'd like to feel better

922
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, like in that dominant form that

923
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: we're used to seeing. Yeah, yeah, I mean that it's

924
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: Collins has had some struggles, There's no question, Mickey, it's

925
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: a good point he has. He has some struggles. And

926
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, and that was just the first game, Tyrn

927
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: Smith with the penalties, right, Um, but you know, if

928
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: if Lale not playing at a high level, then all

929
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: you got is Tyring and in Martin. Yeah. So there

930
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: you're you're you're I mean air quotes, folks, they're listening,

931
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: not seeing. But there's your elite line is not so elite.

932
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: You've got your your It's nice to have two really

933
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: good players, but everybody else, if everybody else is struggling,

934
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: where's your line? Are you just as good as You're

935
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: just as good as the Vikings or the Saints or

936
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: I mean it isn't that the formula here offense to

937
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: have an elite line. Yeah. No sacks, no sacks last week?

938
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: That great, right, But half is in completions were throwaways

939
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: because of pressure. Right, It's like, oh, I gotta get

940
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: rid of this out of my hand. And that's great

941
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: because um sacks are probably sacks kill you, right, because

942
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: even even when you get even when you get a

943
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: holding and they should get the down over, right, the

944
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: sack you don't get the down over It killed Seattle

945
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 1: on Monday. If you went back and watch that game

946
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: means terrible. Yeah. I always I always look back to

947
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: uh when when the Cowboys at the near the end

948
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: of the season in ninety one went to Philadelphia. No, no,

949
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Right, he gets hurt. Uh. And And basically

950
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson's mandate to Burline was, I don't care if

951
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: you finished the first half three for thirteen. I don't care,

952
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 1: uh if you finished the game ten for twenty five.

953
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: I do not want you to take a sack, right,

954
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 1: No sacks and no interceptions, because once that Philadelphia defense

955
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: gets a sack, it starts rolling. The people will start

956
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: going crazy at the vet and everything comes apart. No sacks,

957
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,919
Speaker 1: and I swear to God, the first half he must

958
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: have finished like three of thirteen. Yeah, but they were

959
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: in the game because he didn't take a sack. So

960
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: protect the quarterback and give the running back at least

961
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: get him back to the line of scrimmage and then

962
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: let him do his deal. I mean the touchdown run.

963
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: Yeah right, it wasn't clean, it was a push, right,

964
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: but he got to the line of scrimmage, and then

965
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: he did his deal. He did his deal. I answered

966
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: my own question with I wish I could feel better

967
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: about the consistency of the offense. Yeah, I wish I

968
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: could feel better that I know that they could stay

969
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: ahead of the chains, not give up sacks, and when

970
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: they had to make a real play they could make it.

971
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: That that's what I wish I could feel better about.

972
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: I feel great about the defense and what they've done,

973
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,959
Speaker 1: at least through the first two weeks. I do worry

974
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: about the offensive consistency hurting the defense at the end

975
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: of the day. That's where I that's the struggle I

976
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: deal with every day. Okay, final question here, as we

977
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: have a little time left, is Byron Jones playing better

978
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: than a cheetahbe Owoozier. At this point, we did our

979
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 1: top ten lists m Monday of best performers in the game. Yeah,

980
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: I had both of the ten. Yeah, just to the

981
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: first two weeks. Though we kind of felt like, though

982
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: didn't it A Woozier was going to be the corner,

983
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: that would be the guy that we kind of hang

984
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: our hat on. But we were able now to kind

985
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: of hang our hat on Byron Jones a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,

986
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: we're seeing him making plays on the ball. I think

987
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: Byron has been tested more right and and we've seen

988
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: him make some play right O. Woozier doesn't get tested

989
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: all that much, fair point, and you know there's a

990
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: you know you're not going to throw a shot out

991
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: over there. The ones he gets beat on are usually

992
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: the crossing route over the middle when the guy has

993
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: all day to run right, but from on his sideline.

994
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: I think he's been pretty darn good. But I think

995
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: they've test did Byron Jones more. Yeah, he stood up

996
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, he stood up to it so far.

997
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: I think. Um. I think the fact that both of

998
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: them are playing well, and you may have spoken to this,

999
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: it allows you to be more aggressive with your front seven.

1000
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: And regardless of it's Chris Richard's influence or Rod, dialing

1001
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: up more blitzes is kind of out of his quote

1002
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: unquote reputation. And when you have your corners playing well

1003
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: on the outside, why not, especially if you're playing with

1004
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: the lead. And that's another thing again, Offensively get your

1005
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: defensive lead and allow those guys to tee off a

1006
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, you'll do it even more so

1007
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: once you get a couple of these pass rushers back.

1008
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: The other thing I like back there is if they

1009
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: get beat on a pass play, I don't let see

1010
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: anybody going yeah looking around, yeah, like it wasn't my fault. Yeah,

1011
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: well they did. Did the tight end did get him

1012
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: on that one time where they were kind of looking

1013
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: at each other like, okay, what just happened here? Yeah,

1014
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: you know it was a busted cover was a busted

1015
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 1: but no one looked at any Yeah, everybody went chasing

1016
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: them and as like doc on it, we didn't you know.

1017
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: But are you surprised this team hasn't tackled as well?

1018
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean they I mean initial tackle, Mickey, I'm yeah,

1019
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying rally tackle. I'm saying initial. You know what,

1020
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath could have got a minus three instead. It

1021
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: was a nine yard game kind of a tackle. I

1022
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: think they've been so aggressive, almost too aggressive, and they're

1023
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: flying to try to make a tackle without kind of

1024
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: breaking down and and taking a bad angle. Sometimes one

1025
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: thing that's encouraging is the next guy gets Yeah. Yeah,

1026
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,359
Speaker 1: there's still other guys running to the ball. A lot

1027
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: of hats to it. You're not getting a seventy yard game.

1028
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: It's it's five six yards, like you're said, more than

1029
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: it should be. But it's not a it's not a touchdown.

1030
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: So that's good. You got good guys flying around like

1031
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: it was was it was it the Chargers game. Oh god, right,

1032
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: that I lost I lost my mind. Well that's when

1033
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: they made the change. It made the change in the

1034
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,439
Speaker 1: secondary at that point. Yeah, they said, okay, Orlando you sit,

1035
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: and okay Brown you sit, and you know we're gonna

1036
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: change some things up here, you know, and that I

1037
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: think I look at that point as Okay, now the young,

1038
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: the young guys are going to get to play here.

1039
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,760
Speaker 1: The young, the young secondary is gonna get to play

1040
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: because the veteran guys just didn't get the job. Done

1041
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: at that point, not Jordan Lewis yet. But Anthony Brown

1042
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: done a nice job. And Anthony Brown has not done

1043
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: anything to lose his job. I mean, I mean, I

1044
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: I don't see anything. Am I wrong about that? I

1045
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: mean everybody's been kind of waiting for that. I always

1046
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: say the left turn off the road, the the you know,

1047
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: the human log as uh Nate likes to call Woods

1048
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: waiting for that left turn and he's off, you know.

1049
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Speaker 1: But I don't see anything with with with Brown, and

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Speaker 1: I just hope he doesn't get those penalties. You know,

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Speaker 1: these key situations where all of a sudden he's covering

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Speaker 1: locket and they're getting off the field and pressed around.

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Speaker 1: Wilson overthrows, Oh we have a flag or defensive holding.

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Speaker 1: You don't need that, and he's avoided that, you know,

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Speaker 1: knock on Wood. He just he just wasn't a very

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Speaker 1: good scout, that's all. Yeah. Oh about Perdue? Oh sorry man,

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Speaker 1: that's the only thing he did wrong. Sorry about this

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Speaker 1: last minute cast. Make you a question, But yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: I was gonna says, how's Duely doing calling plays? You

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Speaker 1: know what? Are they scoring a lot of points? This guy,

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Speaker 1: he's got a quarterback there that could be the first

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Speaker 1: one taken and steard. They've scored forty and what was

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Speaker 1: the first game, Well, Tennessee Martin. They should have scored forty.

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Speaker 1: How much have they given up too many? It can

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00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: give up too many against Perdue. That's a problem. Thirty

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00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: seven need to be to DC two. Yeah, you know

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Speaker 1: what he's done. He's done a good You know what

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Speaker 1: I like about what he's done is they're not playing

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Speaker 1: at this breakneck pace and going three and out, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you have the ball for thirty five seconds and

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00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: not necessarily huddling. There's pace, but it's not like, you know,

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Speaker 1: we're hair on fire and he's running the football. Even

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Speaker 1: when it doesn't work, he continues to run the football.

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Speaker 1: He uses his tight ends. Uh and uh. I thought

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Speaker 1: the play calling has been, you know, better than what

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Speaker 1: everybody expected. Everybody was worried. I was worried about that too.

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Speaker 1: The Boo Birds and Saint Louis were all over him

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Speaker 1: before he called his first play, Go Tigers, So tigers. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll see this week. Okay, when it's Georgia, we'll see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what We'll see what the Cowboys look like

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Speaker 1: on Sunday Alabama, don't worry about Yeah. I don't even

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Speaker 1: want to talk college football this week. I don't like

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen? Says answer my questions. Yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 1: Thanks you Ken for producing, Thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Bill, Hell Bill. We'll be back on Thursday.

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