1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: are here illegally, your next you will be fined nearly 11 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. You will 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: border and families will be protected. 16 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back e y l Atlanta edition. 18 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: You know this is we say our second home, but 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: it really feels like our first home. 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: Everything we've been doing live has been here. 21 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, we get so much love out here. We really 22 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: gotta buy some real estate out here. 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: And now that's next. That's next for real. So, you know, 24 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 2: a few episodes. 25 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: I'm always excited about every single episode that we do, 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: but a few episodes is really really exciting for us. 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Shout out the Day, man, that was a bucket list situation. 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: He was every he was everything that we thought he 29 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 3: was gonna be. Yeah, that's the first thing they asked. 30 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: How was he everything we expected? 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: As the fact, Shout the Day. 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 3: And it's been so many other great people that we 33 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: had the opportunity to interview, but this is right at 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 3: the top of my list personally your as well. 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 2: Choice. 36 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: So, you know, killing like somebody that we just admired 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 3: for a long time and obviously one of the dopest rattlers, 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: but I feel like everything that he's done outside of 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: music has even surpassed his musical career as far as 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 3: is you know, advocacy, politics, business. 41 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: Been activist since fifteen. 42 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: Man, it's long, it's dope, it's dope. So, you know, 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 3: this is something that we was looking forward to for 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: a long time. And I had actually DMed him a 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 3: while ago, a while ago, a while long't even know 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 3: if he actually saw it, but the boss bosses got yeah, yeah, yeah, 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 3: Ak and Nundre. It's just just just a bright light. 48 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 3: If you're not following her, you need to follow her 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: on Instagram. That's her Instagram handle and she she's just 50 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: been amazing for us, just the resources just pouring into us. 51 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: How can yeah, how can I help toward a class 52 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: at Eyo University? And I put a post like that 53 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: we need to get killing mic on ey L. She's 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: like hit me right away, like I know I can 55 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: set it up for you. So I'm like, I I 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: appreciate that, and she reached out to him and that 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: started the line of communication and we was kind of 58 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: going back and forth for a few weeks, and then 59 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: last week it was it was ironic because he actually 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: DM me and we was on our way to the 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 3: land in a few days. So I told him, like, yo, bro, 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 3: I actually just got finish listening to your breakfast club Intero. 63 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 2: We had a big announcement last week and I. 64 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: Was actually in a barber shop ironically enough, so I'm like, 65 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: let's set it up. And we set it up and 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: we was here for about ten days and every day 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: it was not kill a flight schedule. I'm like, I'm 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: working on our cinema text Like, yo, bro, like you 69 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: got six more days, five more days. I told I 70 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: told my man swing and that we was talking, and 71 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, you know, he gave me his word, 72 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: And just by speaking to him, I could tell that 73 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: he was a man of his words. So like, there's 74 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 3: no way he's gonna let us leave without giving us 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: any time. 76 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: Even if we left, we was coming back. Yeah, We're 77 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: gonna keep coming to Atlanta until we get him. 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is our last night in Atlanta, and 79 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: this is a nightcap edition. Man out here at eight 80 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: o'clock at night, and we're going to interview the legendary 81 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: killing Mike. So first and foremo, thank you for joining us, 82 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 3: Thank you for cracing our platform. We appreciate it. Thank 83 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: you for opening up your shout man Man, thank you man. 84 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: This is Slagship Store slag Shot, and we're just glad 85 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 3: to have you. So I'm sure we're gonna talk about Yeah, 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: So we got so much stuff to talk about, man, 87 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: I just want to just jump right into it. Yeah. Yeah, 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: you've been all over c NBC, CNN Club, all that 89 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: you've done a lot. But the latest thing that you've 90 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: done is an online banking. Yeah, a Black and Latin 91 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: X owned I believe bank. Right, it's a banking platform, right, 92 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: or a fintech bank and neo bank. Our kids do 93 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 3: everything from their phone, literally do everything. Thirteen year old 94 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: and everything from her phone. So banking is going As 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: you see more bricking, more diclosures, As you see banking 96 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: expanding in the text space, banking is going to end 97 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 3: up in your hand, in your phone. Andrew Young, who's 98 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: a former ambassador, former lieutenant to Doctor King, former mayor 99 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: of Atlanta, travels one hundred and fifty two countries. I 100 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: think he's an ambassador, so he ambassats all over the world. 101 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: You came to stigure out my church man, come off. 102 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: But he's been my friend and mentor since fifteen years 103 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 3: old and actually is a part of me growing me 104 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: as an organizer. Andy doesn't do things for financially motivated reasons, 105 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: yet they end up helping the greater community financially. So 106 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: one example is as mayor of Atlanta, he was responsible 107 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: for making Atlanta international city by bringing the Olympics here 108 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: and bringing the Olympics. He didn't bring a bunch of 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: people to just ran, swim and jump that spoke different languages. 110 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: Companies come also, right, you got Atlanta in Georgia is 111 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: the third most fortune five hundred companies of any state 112 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: in the Union. So that's what him making the city 113 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: and international city helped to do, help to bring just 114 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 3: with the Olympics, I think nine billion dollars into the city, 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: forty one percent with the blackened minority contracts. The only 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 3: condition was he couldn't personally make any money, but he 117 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: made sure that people from the community made money. And 118 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 3: then after that another eleven twelve billion poured in. Blacks 119 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 3: walked away at one point something billion of that, which 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 3: ain't bad, you know what I mean, It ain't bad. 121 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: It's you know, ideally we want to get to the 122 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: ass and betters, but it ain't bad. 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: Start. 124 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 3: So as Andy does stuff, he does stuff that helps 125 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: the greater community, and the greater community is better for us. 126 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: Right. 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 3: So Atlanta is a lot years ahead. It's a beacon 128 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 3: in the South, it's an international city with all this 129 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: proclivities and on all this is it's set back. It's 130 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: still is far more progressive than anyone would have ever thought. 131 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 3: Fifty years as all right, he goes to India, he 132 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: sees where people being paid in payper currency, same thing 133 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: that's happening in depressed areas here. They're being robbed and 134 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: looted by check cashing places essentially. So you're already on 135 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 3: the friends. You make two hundred bucks a week. Technically 136 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: you want to be able to save ten to twenty 137 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: percent of what you're making, right, So it's very hard 138 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: to save twenty or forty bucks when you're making two 139 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: hundred bucks a week. 140 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: But some people have been dedicated, like our grandparents, enough 141 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 2: to do. 142 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: It, to put aside that twenty and let that twenty 143 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: get to one hundred, and put that aside and make 144 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: sure you got stuff like a basic life insurance twenty dollars. 145 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 2: On the side. 146 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: You've got enough to bear your money. Check cashing place 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: in liquor stores. Cut that out of the poorest, the 148 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: ability to spend the same to do anything, and that's 149 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: a detriment, and it helped keep you at that bottom. 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 3: Cast Landy saw a digitized system come there and greatly 151 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: help people. So that was his part in understanding what 152 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: Greenwood as a banking platform could do, or what's Greenwood 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: there's a guy named Paul Judge here out of the 154 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: tech world that's a brilliant. 155 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: A bust of bread. 156 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: And then there's Ryan Glover who built Noontime Records, who 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: built Bounced TV, and who's a founding member of Greenwood. 158 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: And they thought that this model of model's life is 159 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: as we go more digital. Sixty five percent of banking 160 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: is done, problem of your hand. Poor people need relief 161 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: from being young predatory companies. All of this can meet 162 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: and make sense and be a for profit thing, and 163 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 3: Greenwood is born. 164 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: Why is it named Greenwood? 165 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: Greenwoods name green which for the town in Tulsa, Oklahoma 166 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 3: that was burned in a race, wise burned to the ash, 167 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: burned to the ground. And I would argue, and not 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 3: only destroying that town in which a community turned a 169 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: dollar thirty six times, so it was strong in terms 170 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 3: of schools, doctors, Dennis stores. 171 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: It was strong. It was like having an ecosystem in 172 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: a jar in the kitchen. 173 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: Even if your kitchen set on fire until that smoke 174 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: getting in there, that ecosystem is still parking right in 175 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: burning down that town. I would argue that the poor 176 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: whites that did that destroy not only that town, this economy, 177 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: but the greater economy around it, which is why you 178 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 3: ain't seeing a basketball team pop up in Tulsa to 179 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: a few years ago. 180 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: There was no need. It was no, it wasn't. It wasn't. 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: It wasn't a place where harmony could happen. So in 182 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: Atlanta nineteen oh six or so, you get a rioted 183 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: not far from here that way and on that side 184 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: of town. Black people were killed after that. Atlanta, which 185 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: is also the home of the Atlanta Conference. With w 186 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: do boys book into Washington. They're like, look, we're here. 187 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 3: We're not going anywhere. We're right over here in the 188 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 3: fourth Ward. We either gonna go to Ward with these 189 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 3: white folks and we're gonna destroy the city and we're 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: gonna become every typical southern city and it's going to 191 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: be ashes again like Sherman left it when he was 192 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: on his march to the beach in Savannah, or we're 193 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 3: gonna figure out how to let business and. 194 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: Commerce trump bullshit. 195 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: So quietly and agreement was made where black people and 196 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 3: business owners took this side of downtown and we're right now, 197 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: we're in the historic Auburn and Edgewood Avenue Auburn and 198 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: Edgewood Avenue are also work will always be to some degree, 199 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 3: Black Wall Street. The Atlanta Life Insurance Company was there, 200 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: started by Alonzo Herndon Evan's a Baptist church. The SCLC 201 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 3: headquarters with their office is Virguley, Black Business. It's always 202 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: been here. So Greenwood as a banking platform is in 203 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: the spirit of that, initially in terms of making sure 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: we serve worker class, poor communities, making sure we serve 205 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: the unbanked, making sure we serve black people and the 206 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: Latino X crowd. But it is not only for us. 207 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 3: Anyone is welcome to bring their green there and anyone 208 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 3: is well to know we're going to be stable with 209 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 3: the wood, you know. So just like Atlanta had to 210 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: realize as a city, it made more sense to cooperate 211 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 3: and make business sense, not to war in the middle 212 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 3: of the streets. Ess as a bank, understand that I'm 213 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: not trying to tell anybody can't bank for us, who 214 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: want everybody to bank with us, But we also want 215 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: to be a place that grows into a lender in 216 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: terms of car loans and home loans because many times 217 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: the first generational wealth that anybody looks like us will 218 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 3: have is be a home or something that someone left 219 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: to us, right, and then they want to grow into 220 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 3: growing given capital to businesses. But forty one percent business 221 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: culture I think aka and who was putting up in 222 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: terms of like. 223 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: Businesses since Corona. 224 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, if it wasn't for my out of pocket what 225 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 3: we have been able to survive when we open back up. 226 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: We're not charging barbers, you know, booth wind and the 227 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 3: initial things of that nature. So I have to think about, 228 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: you know, what's best for that. So I think that 229 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: I think that Greenwood is going to be not only 230 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: one of the best banking platforms, but it's going to 231 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: grow into a strong financial force that turns into a 232 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: lender not only homes and I don't know, but a 233 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 3: small businesses, medium sized businesses, and businesses by creatives that 234 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 3: grow bigger market. 235 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 4: So I mean, obviously you're an Atlanta historian, Like you said, 236 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 4: you've been as an active activist for over thirty years. 237 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty years of my life. That's a long time. 238 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: That's a long time, right, So I'm trying to think 239 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,599 Speaker 4: is this something during that process or is just a 240 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 4: culminate event of situations that motivated for Greenwood to start 241 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 4: right now, like, well, was there motivating factors or it 242 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 4: was just like. 243 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what motivated Ryan. I think that 244 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 3: what motivated Andy was going to seeing it work right, 245 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: but few more people. For me, it made It's made 246 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: sense for me for ten years. I've been talking about 247 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: it actively for six years. And they were the first 248 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: bank or banking platform to say, let's bring Mike into 249 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: the business code. You know, there's plenty of banks had 250 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 3: the opportunity, and I still shout out all the black banks, right, 251 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: but no one else, you know, said well, let's get 252 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: into the business with them. And I think Ryan, you know, 253 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, six years ago, I still saw 254 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: me as me like if I was a talent scouted 255 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: out of it, like ut, you know what I'm saying. 256 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 3: But the fact that they then doesn't bother me as 257 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: much as I'm encouraged by the fact that Ryan did. 258 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: Because Ryan understands that Michael Render is a kid in 259 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 3: a room who plays the character killer Mike. But Michael 260 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: Render is married to one of the best business minds 261 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: in this state of the nation. 262 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: She's a friend of aka another, she's my. 263 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 3: Wife, Shay, And you know, like proverbs and I'm not 264 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: I'm not a Christian, but Proverbs thirty one ten through 265 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: thirty one talks. 266 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: About having the right type of wife. 267 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: So you know, the business partner and life partner that 268 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: I have helps me understand. 269 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: That the capital I go get, we can do something 270 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: with it. 271 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 3: We can bury, and we can put it places where 272 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 3: compounds will grows. So you know, for me, in terms 273 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: of Michael Render, I understand that that when Ryan invited me, 274 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: that's bigger than whoever didn't invite me, because he sees 275 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 3: what I see in the mirror, and that's someone with 276 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: the potential to grow into a businessman. So Michael Santiago, Yeah, 277 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: my dad just look my dad, man. My dad. 278 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: Shouts out, But Michael, liek my dad. 279 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm all like, I ain't name of my goddamn young 280 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: not even Michael Sago. My wife said. My wife said, 281 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: I'm so glad, dady. Kids shout out, shout, shout out 282 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: to Norry Victor Santiago. 283 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: That's one of my fast shots out. 284 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 3: So so people don't realize, I'm just some research and 285 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 3: seventeen percent of black people are unbanked. You're paying to 286 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: three percent, So if you think about it, that's a 287 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: three percent of whites. 288 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 2: That's a lot. And then I will never forget. 289 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: So people have heard of food deserts, yes, and so 290 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 3: I used to go to school in Baltimore. I did 291 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: a research study on food deserts, and it's like, you know, 292 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: we're for people that don't know. They don't every neighborhood 293 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: doesn't have like a grocery store exactly, So people go 294 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: grocery shopping and like gas stations and corner stores, and 295 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 3: not only is the food bad, but the prices are 296 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: much higher too. 297 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: So it's it's it's. 298 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 3: Enough process exactly exactly, so at least a high blood pressure, 299 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: cholester all that stuff. So I never heard of banking 300 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 3: deserts until like a couple months ago we did an episode. 301 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was talking about banking deserts. 302 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 3: So it's like there's different pockets in different areas where 303 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: there's there's no bank, and then there's check cashing places. 304 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: And then I never forget. Somebody told us because when 305 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: we grew up, we had a check cashing place. 306 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 307 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: My first job as I worked at a summer camp, 308 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: and everybody used to go to the check cashing page 309 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 3: because you get it quick. Yeah, but they charged like 310 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: three dollars, two dollars, you're not what you thinking about it, 311 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: but that adds up. It's like why are you paying it? 312 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: And it's like you never see a check cashing pigs 313 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: in the middle class or. 314 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 2: A wealthy neighborhood. It's either working class or poor neighborhoods. 315 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 4: Because the crazy part is that not to get you off, 316 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: but the crazy part is that had we known that 317 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: the bank right across the street wrote the check, we 318 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: could have gotten the same day. 319 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: Sad thing, the actually was a bank in our neighborhood 320 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 3: and we were just so conditioned. And not only was 321 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: the check cashing place right next to the Chinese spot 322 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 3: that shirt fried chickens. I always wondered how that worked. 323 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: So it's like it was it was a weird dynamic. 324 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 3: But I say that to say this online thinking, I 325 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: think is is really the way because even in Kenya, 326 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: I saw they had a lot of people can't get 327 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 3: the things because it's so rural. But they changed the 328 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: whole dynamic by having like just basic cell phones where 329 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: they can bank on itself. So you knew it was real. 330 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: When I seen the dance and get paid in the 331 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 3: Blue Flag be it cel phone like no cap no 332 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: like Brown zero is the barbershop and the booty clubs. 333 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: When when I saw said Blue Flame, the Blue Flight, 334 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: we ain't going to night after, I'm not staying long. 335 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: Would do my mask. 336 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 5: We're about to have seen that place before. It's a 337 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: black business. That's shout to Wall Street, Traffler Street travel 338 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 5: flying Now. 339 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 4: We actually pulled up to it and as soon as 340 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: we got there, somebody did a black flip into the wall. 341 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 2: We were like, you. 342 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 3: Gotta go in, you gotta you gotta interview the owner. 343 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: Man, he's a great for sure. 344 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, so you so you felt so you you 345 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 3: had that idea in Blue Flame, like this is this 346 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: is what I knew? 347 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: What was it? I knew son was happening. You know. 348 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 3: It's like being in a gambling house and you and 349 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: you start hearing rumblers. You're like, oh, son happened? 350 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 2: You know? 351 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 3: Excuse me for like something I learned business, you know 352 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 3: in the eighties and nineties. And how did the black 353 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: kid learn it in the eighties and nineties running errands 354 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: for pimps, doing airs in the gallant house and selling 355 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: to big crack cocaine? 356 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 4: You know what? 357 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: So I learned business on the most mudimentary level. You can't. 358 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 3: But it's like when you're in the gamon house you 359 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 3: start hearing a little noise, little you just start looking 360 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: around like something happening, somebody winning on, somebody losing that. 361 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 2: But when I seen the phone light up the dancing, 362 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: he turned the floor. What the fun is he doing? 363 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't see no money? She got THEMN hours. Oh yeah. 364 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, come in red. She's like, 365 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: what I say, y'all, I see you dance. She said, Oh, 366 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: that's a niggas. He ain't get no money. You know 367 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: what I mean? She said, well now here He paid 368 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: me by cash out, and I was like, cash. 369 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: The fuck is cast? Your wife knows. My wife doesn't 370 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 3: let anybody teach me about technology. She says, if my 371 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 3: husband needs to know something, I teach him right so 372 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 3: south South the little se smile and she stops smiling 373 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: from teaching anything. But that's when I if it's in 374 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: the clubs already. Man. My barber started doing it, and 375 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 3: my sister who's a hairstyle started doing it, and then 376 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: my sister who's an accountant, start telling me that they're 377 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: pain and receiving all digital that that their paper. She 378 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: used to work in paper checks, but those things coming 379 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 3: out to them saying Okay, I see what's coming. So 380 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 3: when Ryan calls me with the idea, of course, I'm 381 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: I'm a receptive and open because that's what's next. Fintech 382 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: is a huge financial technology. I feel like tech in 383 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: every area will take over. So like Tesla is not 384 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 3: a car company, it's a tech company. 385 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So a lot of these brick and. 386 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: Mortar banks are on their last leg because they're not 387 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: making a transition. Yeah, well a lot of them are 388 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 3: are don't want to have legs a certain community, Like 389 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: you're never not going to see a Chase Bank in 390 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 3: a rich neighborhood or in the studio district where a 391 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: lot of us are private banking wanted how many So 392 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: there's gonna keep you know, Shad's gonna still be able 393 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 3: to pull up two hundred fifty thousandars Canstraer, but she's 394 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to do it on Marketer King. 395 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. 396 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: The one that Greenbrier may not last, but the one 397 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: on our meal it'll be there. And we have to 398 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: as a as a community that has foods and banking deserts. 399 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 2: We have to start to prepare for that. 400 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: And education and technology can keep you I'm in a 401 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: state of equity and having some ownership, and it can 402 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: keep you in a place of having some equality where 403 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: you stand a fair shot. 404 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 2: It ain't fair, but just just let me get a 405 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: fair shot, you know what I mean? I think. 406 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 4: And we just finished this book in our book club, 407 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: The Color of Money. It tells the history of black 408 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 4: pay Yeah, yeah, nothink. One of the biggest things they 409 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: talked about me, I know, I know, as try as 410 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 4: you out too, I was like, I said, yell, earnist, 411 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 4: we might get them. But one of the things that 412 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 4: they talk about is the history of our relationship with money. 413 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 4: And once we learn our history, then we can understand 414 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 4: how to use it, how to value it, and how 415 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: to use it to our advantage. 416 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. But one of the things that we lack is trust. 417 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 418 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 4: And so as you take on this endeavor, I want 419 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: to know your thoughts. So, like, how do we get 420 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 4: the trust from the people? Yeah, what you do a 421 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 4: good job, and you do this best you can. 422 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 3: If I've always told people to first of all, I said, 423 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 3: I didn't sign up for this leadership ship. I got 424 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: in this to wrap smoke weed and hang out at 425 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: the front, right. But you, destiny faked the universe or 426 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: the creator that has crafted has you put you on 427 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 3: the path. I didn't meet aka nundrum by chance. I 428 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 3: didn't happen until you guys, by chance. It's my cup 429 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 3: is empty. I'm supposed to be learning so I can 430 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 3: pour into others, you know what I mean? So it 431 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: matters of me. I always tell people I'm going to 432 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 3: do my very best, and if I fuck up, I'm 433 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: gonna apologize and allow me to get back because I 434 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: don't like playing with people. I could have sat with 435 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 3: other institutions and said, this is a deal. I want 436 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: give me this. I'm going to get you these many cars. 437 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: You can give me this percentage off the cars. That's 438 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 3: not what I did. I waited to something that I 439 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 3: actually felt like was helpful to the community that produced 440 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: me came along, and when it came along, the opportunity 441 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 3: presented itself. I said, this is something that makes sense, 442 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: this is something I'm willing to be a part of. 443 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: This is something I wish to have, And even once 444 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 3: about group of economics because I feel like I remember 445 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: you a few years ago. I forgot what the triggering 446 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 3: event was, but you took a bunch of raptors in 447 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: Atlanta to like back to open up black. 448 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: It was Michael Brownson, Yeah, Okay, that's what it was. 449 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: Okay, And then I remember they did it in Houston 450 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 3: and it was a thing, and I remember that's how 451 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 3: the play and you were saying, like, even if you 452 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: if you're a black entrepreneur or you're black profession whatever, 453 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 3: but if you're putting money in a white bank, it's 454 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 3: still in a sense kind of the feasts the purpose 455 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 3: in a way. So well, I'm not that pessimistic. Okay, no, no, no, 456 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: that's not I'm not one of those either ors. Right, 457 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,199 Speaker 3: I'm from Atlanta. So people had to learn how to 458 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 3: cooperate here. 459 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: You know. 460 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 3: William Hartsfield, who was an Atlanta mayor, was basically laughed 461 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: and ran out of town because he gave Delta like 462 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 3: a fifty one hundred year least and like a dollar 463 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 3: five dollars a year. But yet Delta became one of 464 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 3: the biggest employers of Atlanta and brought huge commerce and 465 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: made us help make us an international city. 466 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: Having an International, one of the world's busiest airport. 467 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, he had the foresight though to see it, 468 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: you know, just like Maynard had the foresight. 469 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: So you know, with me, it's like. 470 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: You gotta have foresight, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta 471 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 3: be willing to take the risk that you know is 472 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: secure or or sure you feel or you know, and 473 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 3: you can fail. But like in that so in the Netflix, 474 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 3: in the Netflix series that you had when you went 475 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 3: like I think it was seven days, like you just 476 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 3: try to just only spend with black businesses, and he's like, 477 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: even if you it's like everything has to be you 478 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: gotta learn to cooperate. 479 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: You know, war is one without allies. I'm sorry, got 480 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: our point. 481 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 3: But the point that I'm trying to make is that 482 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 3: the federal government at one point, instead of making the 483 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 3: big banks to fair business in terms of redline and 484 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: stuff with black people, said no, we'll, we'll we'll just 485 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 3: support the black banks. And they never came through on 486 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 3: their problems, right, and they still want us to come vote, 487 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: but they never came through their promims. We should be 488 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: forced to have the federal government to do that, and 489 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 3: at the same time, we should be cooperating with larger 490 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: ain't the constitutions, many of which whose banks were built 491 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 3: directly off the banks and its slave that right when 492 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: you look at stocks and buns, a lot of that 493 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 3: is you weren't start in the bun. You weren't the property, 494 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: yet that's what you were. So my thing is again, 495 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 3: I learned selling drugs me and you could be at 496 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 3: war a year ago. 497 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: And year lady, the prices is right, and she I 498 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: don't want to kill you no more. I got a 499 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: hundred bands, you got a hundred bands. We got a 500 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: two hundred and fift thousd dollars deal. 501 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: My buddy got twenty by your buddy got twenty five. 502 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 3: So at a certain point, it's not that the pain 503 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: isn't there, it's not that the tragedy isn't there. At 504 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 3: what point do we have to start understanding that to 505 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: win a war? I must Ally, the United States and 506 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: Russia have never liked each other, just two radically different 507 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 3: concepts on how to treat people, how to different money. 508 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 3: But when Germany popped up and was Omar and everybody 509 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:48,919 Speaker 3: motherfucker found a. 510 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Way to get a little bar so show up to 511 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: the line. 512 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 3: So we have to we have to think with the 513 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 3: same mentality that I don't have to like a love you, 514 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: but in matters of strengthening me as an individual in 515 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 3: my understanding what I can do in my group, in 516 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 3: our community, I will partner or ally with you in 517 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 3: a matter of a bigger law. 518 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 2: Now, and that's just that's just what it is. 519 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: So let me let me let me ask you a question, 520 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: because I know not only are your entrepreneur, but you're 521 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 3: really in the politics. 522 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: I don't want to be. 523 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 4: That was the second was the said wing because what 524 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 4: you just said is what you said about the president. Now, 525 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: you like, I don't have to like him or even 526 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: vote for him, but if he does something that helps 527 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 4: my community, I should take advantage of that, because take av. 528 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: Taking advantage of everything I'm telling But that's every president. Yeah, 529 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 3: that ain't just president. Now, that's that's there has been. 530 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: No president that has been for the black community. Take that. 531 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: That's the fact. 532 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: That's that has been no president that has been for 533 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: the black community. But if your policy affects the black 534 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 3: community in a positive way, which can affect the greater community, 535 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 3: I have to pay you some attention. Is that suff 536 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 3: I have to pay you some of Obamas. For you, 537 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: I'm clearing what I say and how I see. There 538 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: has been no president that's for the black community. But 539 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: if that president is playing in any way or policy 540 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: helps the black community, I'm for that thing. You get 541 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. I rate all us presidents at about 542 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: the ce different variations from a C minus down into 543 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: the d's too. You know, when you start off as 544 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: slave masters and presidents, that's a really funky what I'm saying. 545 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 3: So you have to spend your life as a person 546 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: of color reconciling the fact that the dollars that are 547 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: in your pocket, the dead men, the slave masters that 548 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: are only that that that give you work and value 549 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: to the things you're doing, own people, and that wealth 550 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 3: is something. So you know, when we get walking, we 551 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 3: get mad and we want to castigate rappers and then 552 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 3: a tinners and chickens, do the right thing with your 553 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 3: money you have, Andrew Jackson, You're twenty dollars bill that 554 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: you're tipping the stripper with committed genocide on people that 555 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: were from Middle of America and that were red and 556 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: were here before. 557 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: You got here. 558 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: So you're passing a genocidal bill to pay for your 559 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 3: Sarah and your your need to get grinded on. And 560 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: you've never chastised yourself enough to say I'll only pay 561 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: by PayPal because I'm protested or greenwood. 562 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: So I'm you know what you know? Man? 563 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: In matters of money, we had better learn that we're 564 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: going to have to pack some emotion to the side 565 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,719 Speaker 3: to accomplish specific goals from a monetary standpoint, so that 566 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: we can take care of ourselves because no one's coming 567 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 3: to save us. Nothing's coming out of sky to save us. Karma, 568 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 3: although it's a nice concept. Evil people live longer and 569 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: they seem to be happier. George Bushtin died he was 570 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: ninety middle something. So but you were. You were supporting 571 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 3: Bernie senators absolutely, so you work. You have progressive I 572 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: guess liberal views. If voting for Bernie Sanders takes my 573 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 3: taxes up out of the forties into the fifties, just 574 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: that succeed takes care the next twenty five to thirty 575 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: years of Americans in terms of education, health care, trade 576 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 3: that trade and college education at basics and extensive health care, 577 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 3: and provide social programs that grow us as a country. 578 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: I have no aversion to supporting that, and. 579 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: In fact, I think that much of his policy has 580 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 3: been rape robbed and looted by both parties at this point, 581 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 3: versus us getting behind the person who wanted to give 582 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: us everything we would have needed during this pandemic, including 583 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: some type of universal income, including some type of health 584 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: care that was universal leading toward it, including decriminalization of marijuana, 585 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: including a federal task force that would have dealt with 586 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: roth police, including all these things that would have affected us. 587 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 3: But because we didn't do it, because we didn't go that, 588 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 3: but because we got robbed of it or whatever. The 589 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: theory is being, you gotta you know, you got to 590 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: give what you got, and you better master your coin, 591 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 3: you know, because we're we're in a system where as 592 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 3: much as they want to say they care like Barnie, 593 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: they don't. And if you're if you're not going to 594 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: allow me to pay my ten or fifteen extra to 595 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: let someone like him leave the way, don't get mad. 596 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna try to keep an extra ten or 597 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: fifteen percent and figure out who the fuck Trump's taxloy 598 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: is so I can be them on the West side, 599 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: you know, But I did you know, I didn't I didn't. 600 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: Vote for the evil persons, whoever that may be. I 601 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 2: want to go back to it. I want to go 602 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: back to Greenwood for a. 603 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 4: Sec because a lot of times, and even in the book, 604 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 4: it dives into the fact of black bangs being. 605 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: Put in neighborhoods right where. 606 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 4: Deposits weren't coming in at a frequent rate, and so 607 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 4: they had to charge higher interest rates when they weren't 608 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 4: loaning got money because most people don't really understand how. 609 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 2: Banks make money. The lows right. 610 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 4: So my thing is like, is Greenwood is there going 611 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: to be similar like how other interests They're going to 612 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 4: be competing with the big thing. 613 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 3: So that's their goal first, first year versus deposits savings, 614 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: and so it's steps. 615 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: This is where we are. First. 616 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,160 Speaker 3: First, the goal is to wipe out check pashing course, 617 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 3: to wipe out the main the main parasites in poor 618 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: and working class people's lives. So you know, people here 619 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: saved twenty forty bucks. It doesn't sound like much to them, 620 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 3: but when you're talking about now you can save ten 621 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: percent of your income, what about when person gets to 622 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 3: raise and get five hundred your thousand, Now you're saving 623 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 3: more money. So that is the attack, and the next 624 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: phase is in loans and home ownership, automobile ownership, and 625 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: then the phase after that. So I like the fact 626 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 3: that Ryan is, unlike in the past, is not trying 627 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: to do everything himself at the same time as much 628 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: he's he's seeking and they're talking to allies at this 629 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: moment realizing who are they going to get into business 630 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: with in terms of partnering with larger institutions that are 631 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: cover who are the institutions that your money is actually 632 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: going to be sitting with, and as a platform, what 633 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: they can do to reduce the eve and to you 634 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: help you find more financially literally help you to say. 635 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: So, I'm thinking that's the first step. Eradicate the check 636 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 4: cash in push in the back of the day was 637 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: also the Soll phone store. 638 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's level. 639 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: And then then we got the posits and loans, and 640 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: so I guess the next last stage would be business loan, 641 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: small business loans. 642 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well small man, I don't think that's the last stage. 643 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: I just think that. I just think that if you're 644 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: going to run nine. 645 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: Miles, plot out your first three, then plot out your 646 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: next three, and then your final three. 647 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: Right, So let's just say those are the first three miles. 648 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I saw I wrest where Ryan said, like, 649 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: I think fifty of black businesses, Oh, black businesses get 650 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: loans at fifty percent lower rate than white businesses. When 651 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: I think it's we're return at fifty percent lower rates. 652 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 3: We're also denied in comparable applications. We're denied twenty one 653 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: percent of the time in white's only eight. Okay, So, 654 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 3: and so I'm assuming that's something that you guys will 655 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 3: be trying to eradicate. As far as greens there's definitely 656 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 3: going to be. You know, Greenwood is not Superman, doesn't 657 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 3: come in the same one Swade. What it is a 658 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: part of the adventures. It's a part of alternative ways 659 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: now for us to take control of our dollars. And 660 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: that's everything from a new black credit union that's popping up. 661 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: That's everything from the traditional black banks that are already 662 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: in the market, whether it be Citizens Trust or Carver 663 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: or One United. And that's new platforms and ventech like Greenwood. 664 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: You know, I'm an advocate for you know, if you 665 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 3: want to if you want to get the freedom, take 666 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: a whole lot of buses. You know, don't depend on 667 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 3: everyone going in one bus, you know what I'm saying. 668 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 3: And he even told me and Ryan don't travel together. 669 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 670 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: He's just like what you guys are doing is that's 671 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 3: don't even travel together. Because if freedom is the objective, 672 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 3: there may be slightly different variations of but we'll get 673 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: there even if it's not at the same time. But 674 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: I think we need a lot of kistons firing and 675 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: an engine, not just one. And we have to we 676 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 3: have to begin to end. O will want or need 677 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: to critique or overly criticize based on a past failure, 678 00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: because a failure is something you. 679 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Learned from that. And that's the part. 680 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: It was like if people understood their relationship with the money, 681 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 4: they would understand. It's like if my iPhone breaks, I 682 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: don't say I'm never using Apple again. 683 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna get another iPhone, you know what I mean. 684 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: But if we like, and I bank with citizens, so 685 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 4: shout out to citizens. 686 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: But if they like, if they mess up. 687 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 4: A deposit, It's not like y'all never banging with them again, 688 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonnaive them the same thingway. 689 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: We gotta get it fixed. And again that's why I 690 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 3: tell people like one day as a leader, which I 691 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 3: wasn't even in the in the. 692 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: Space to be. 693 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 3: But akat another those people like that black women to 694 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: make you leave. But you know, I want to say, 695 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: my bad, I fucked up. Yeah, you know, let me, 696 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: let me get back on the bus, figure out. And 697 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 3: there's another reason I constantly consult with people too, you 698 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Even before saying yes to this, 699 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 3: I called around to black men who had ran banks. 700 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: I called around the people work, like, what do you 701 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 3: think of this? What's been tech helped me understand? And 702 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: I got, you know, at least and that I already knew, 703 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: you know, already trusted Andy, already trusted Ryan because I've 704 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: seen him do it. 705 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 2: But I just wanted to learn more. 706 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna like I found you guys, he's learning just 707 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 3: kind of bausting around. 708 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 2: You know, like right some time and the rain. Now 709 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. So what's your all right? 710 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: So as far as business, because you're a business owner, 711 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: obviously we're sitting in a business right now. So as 712 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: you said, Brick and mart especially Brick and Martar businesses 713 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 3: have been hit tremendously hard since the pandemic, especially black 714 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: businesses over forty percent of black businesses have completely closed. 715 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: So what is your opinion, because I personally think that, 716 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 3: like some of the problems in the Black community as 717 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 3: far as businesses, that we're too reliant on brick and 718 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: martar because that's what we know. 719 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: Right. 720 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 3: It's like we know sneaker stores, we know hair salons, 721 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 3: we know restaurants, we know barber shops. 722 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: They're all great because they're service based businesses. 723 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 3: But in times like this, it's difficult because you have overhead, 724 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 3: you have staff, you have things of that nature. So 725 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 3: now you're you're going into the financial space, but you 726 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: still have a brick and mortar business. You think there's 727 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 3: a balance between the two for business owners, or I 728 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 3: mean I think there has to be for certain businesses. 729 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 3: You know, I think that people like the Congregated Fellowship. 730 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: So you can only keep churches, restaurants, liquor stores, and 731 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: barbershops closed along. You know them guys are gonna hang 732 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 3: in front of that liquor store, you know. 733 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: People are people are gonna come to get groomed. 734 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: Essential business. Essential business litus comes and you can't get 735 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 3: drunk and go front there. Realized the politicians sneaking us 736 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 3: off but we have to change methodology. And here you 737 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: come here now either you have a mask or we 738 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: have one available. Take your temperature by appointment only. We 739 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: have four people in the chair, can only be four 740 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: of the people sitting, so you know, and my staff 741 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: is great about that. I gotta I gotta get them. 742 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 3: They keep it clean, they keep it sanitized. Our bathrooms 743 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: are always That's a sticker of mine. Make sure I 744 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: judge businesses. Bam was like, Yo, this, this might be 745 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: the cleanest barbershop I've ever seen in my life. 746 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 2: Like I see mat. 747 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 3: Chula, shots out Selene, what's my new guy's name? Shots 748 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 3: out to Sam Selene? I thought Sam was cutting Celeena 749 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 3: is such a pro. He got hired as an intern 750 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: paid internship, you know, not a lot, but I would 751 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: have bought a few fair of joys. But Selene also 752 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 3: has has a talent of camera work. And he said, hey, 753 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 3: I've worked myself out of internship. I'm still going to 754 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 3: do this type of stuff for the shot, but I'm 755 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: going to find a comparable replacement and train him. 756 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: So I got to give him. Those are the. 757 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: Type of people you want on team. And I spent 758 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: a lot of years floundering in Barbara because what we 759 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 3: had barbaring, because what we had was people who were 760 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 3: used to the old school way in which I cut 761 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: hair all. 762 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 2: Day, but I don't clean up all day. 763 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 3: It was I paid boover rent, so I feel like 764 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,919 Speaker 3: I'm an independent contractor. But you never have to worry 765 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: about your air being hot, You never have to worry 766 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: about it being called. You never or those things get 767 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: solved quickly, but you never think about the variation of 768 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: boove rerint never changed that type stuff. So I love 769 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: working with people that get it, you know what I'm saying. 770 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 3: And I love working with people that take cleaning the 771 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: corners of a building as seriously as they take making 772 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 3: sure that the light is on outside in that register, 773 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: because you know, I have poured a lot into a 774 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 3: dream that really is a platform for other people to 775 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 3: prosper from. You know, I want to. I will not 776 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: have succeeded if we do not do what Chick fil 777 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: A did. Chick fil A took a novel concept and 778 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 3: gave the first opportunity for franchising to members of the 779 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: church and members of the family. They gave it to 780 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 3: people they knew it would take pride in it. So 781 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 3: Chick fil A has always been ran. It's a different 782 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 3: type of pride. You know Andy Young talks about going 783 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: and seeing Kathy Truett walk into stores and start cooking hisself. 784 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 3: You know that that is a mission that's greater than 785 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: I want to make a lot of money. That has 786 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: added locations, that has sent kids to college because they 787 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 3: got an amazing scholarship fund. People genuinely see happy when 788 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 3: you walking Chick fil A, you're going to McDonald's saying 789 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 3: you can tell they might not be treated. So my 790 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 3: goal is too much like Chick fil A, grown ownership 791 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: right from behind these barber chairs and behind that desk. 792 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: So you know, if Selim or Sam or any intern 793 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: that comes through here grows to become an owner. You know, 794 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 3: shots out to mliss over with the Hawks and went 795 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 3: from getting a ball girl, I think an the NBA 796 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: for a bar now runs marketing for the Hawks. Those 797 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 3: are the type of stories I want my platform, and 798 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: that does come with making money, but that comes from 799 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160 Speaker 3: having a team of people that add to that in 800 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: that way. 801 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 4: So I think that's why what you're doing, you guys 802 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: are doing, it's so important because you get it right, 803 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 4: like you know what it takes to give a loan 804 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 4: or to a barbershop or here someone these businesses that typically. 805 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 2: Wouldn't get along. 806 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 4: But you said some interesting now your dreams, right, So 807 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 4: the barbershop was that's a dream? And if so, what 808 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 4: what's the next? Because I'm thinking of my mind, Like 809 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: you didn't know the fintech. So this kind of just 810 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: came along and it was a great opportunity. 811 00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: So what are the Yeah, I. 812 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 3: Wanted to own a like I wanted I want. I 813 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 3: knew very young. 814 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 2: I was ling very young. I was like this yard 815 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 2: work shit, this is not for the real man. What 816 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 2: are you? What are you talking? People selling drugs out here, Grandma. 817 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,319 Speaker 3: I seen my nigga take three hundred dollars my ground 818 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: game and ragget dass lawnmow. I'm going, you know, pushing 819 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 3: fucking more twenty five twenty bucks. And then old people 820 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 3: like after they see you do it quick, maybe I 821 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: shouldn't get it for nigga, this nigga twelve out scooter. 822 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 3: You know, you don't think, oh, people can't slick you, 823 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: but they're finesse you on the West Side. 824 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 2: But when my. 825 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 3: Mom took me the Decatur you know, my mom lived 826 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 3: in the cab. Those people didn't mind paying twenty bucks. 827 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 3: There was a kid living next door to me didn't 828 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 3: mind getting paid ten, So I would charge ours twenty five, 829 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I'd give him ten. 830 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: Keep your teen is my lawnmower. I got do mainenance 831 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: on this motherfucker dog. 832 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: And so I learned very early that figure out the 833 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 3: deal and figure out who smart. My mom had a 834 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 3: good business money, you know what I mean. She was 835 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 3: always about not working and figuring out ways to She 836 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 3: was affloorished by nature as me, and she was an artist. 837 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,880 Speaker 3: She dated very successful. She did a very successful, successful 838 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: drug dealer who opened up businesses as well. So she 839 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 3: was just always thinking. So you know, for me, it's 840 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 3: like it's my next thing. My next thing is mastering 841 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: the thing that I started before I find a next thing. 842 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 3: You know, the banking made sense, but I've been peeking 843 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: and poking around there for the last six seven years. 844 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: So this came and dropped in my lap. But it 845 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 3: was too perfect not to do. And it's really a 846 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 3: matter of me just getting out and getting a message out, 847 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 3: getting the message out, let people know, hey, we're here, 848 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 3: we're here. You have an option that doesn't lead you 849 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,800 Speaker 3: to the check cashing place after you get your summer 850 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 3: camp job. Right, that's easy enough to do it. It's 851 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 3: daunting getting up at six thirty in the morning because 852 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 3: people with money are getting up early watching TV, you 853 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. By the time nine o'clock traffic hit, 854 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 3: they already in front of they tell they've done what 855 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 3: they had to do. So that part is like, Okay, 856 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: this is a riz is like a real job. I 857 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 3: gotta wake up. But the brick and mortar stores that 858 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 3: we do in terms of these shops, and I call 859 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 3: them stores because what I learned really early is if 860 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: I'm dependent on barbers and booth rent, I'm going to fail. 861 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 3: I'm going to close because people's lives is happening. You 862 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 3: don't know whose child needs what, you don't know what 863 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 3: emergencies are coming up with their parents. A lot of 864 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 3: barbers are talented people. They're making money on the quick, 865 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 3: so they, like regular artists are entertainments or tradesmen, are 866 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: responsible for more. 867 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,399 Speaker 2: People than themselves, you know. 868 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 3: So I started to not understand because I still got 869 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: to pay my rent. But I started to see the 870 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 3: glitch in the matrix. So we are transitioning to a 871 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 3: commission shop, right. So I've been talking to people like 872 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,240 Speaker 3: the owner of sports Clips. I've been talking to people 873 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: like who worked in Floyd's and Ruty system getting it 874 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 3: as we sharpen our system. 875 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 2: But what kept us open and kept us prospering. 876 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 3: And went from being just a pet project that I 877 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 3: wanted to have a barbershop so I could have a 878 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 3: guy's place to hang as long as it pay for myself. 879 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 3: My business partner and wife, you know, don't be paid 880 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 3: for it self. She wasn't gonna get me too much trouble. 881 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 3: You know, my managers had sat out like now was 882 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 3: paying for herself. You know, you make a make a 883 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 3: grant to two after bootprint and all your bills paid. 884 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 3: So it was like cool and I was like, but 885 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 3: then I'm like, you know what, Like when I'm sending 886 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 3: in a barbershop, how oftentimes I just need a T shirt? 887 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: Like I just went to pick up some crack Forces 888 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 3: and I got to go to the VP. I don't 889 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 3: even want to go to the BP. I gotta go 890 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: to the BP. I gotta get your volved a dollar. 891 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't even want no they T shirt quality whack. 892 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 3: I do feel like going to DTL lot. So I 893 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 3: started saying, why we're not selling T shirt? Yeah, we 894 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 3: started selling T shirts. And then it goes from fussing 895 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 3: and fighting with the barber about some money as they 896 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: don't or don't have or how short the short to 897 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: knowing I'm doing thousands of months in merchandise, and I 898 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 3: start to understand that not only are we a barber shop, 899 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 3: we're a cultural center and the swag shop unlike most barbers. 900 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 4: This episode is brought to you by P and C Bank. 901 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 4: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 902 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 4: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 903 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 4: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 904 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 4: day after day. 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We 953 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 3: use very you know, with manly stuff. You can grab 954 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 3: this stuff out of Sinni Sears and Amazon ordered it drops. 955 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 3: We have art because I'm a fan of art. Chris 956 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,239 Speaker 3: Hope did this from art refolks. He also did the band. 957 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 3: We keep things very simple, very clean, very taste, very 958 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 3: man like. And then we get you here. Come and 959 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 3: look at the cool shit you can buy to master 960 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 3: the nikes you just got for Walters, or the outfit 961 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 3: for What's happening, or which we have a synbiotic relationship 962 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: with other small businesses in which we want to make merch. 963 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 3: The Travis, the Travis Uh, the Travis s guys drop 964 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 3: the colorway is no accident. 965 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying. 966 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 3: And I know that everybody doesn't want to wear the 967 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: exact same outfits of the club. So our customers get 968 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 3: exclusives one of one hundred and fifty May, one of 969 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 3: two hundred. 970 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 2: And fifty May. 971 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: You know our staple shop shirt sell We got a Transformers, 972 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 3: We got a star Stream shirt. 973 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 2: Your barbershopp ain't got no fucking Starstream, you know what 974 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 2: I mean. So that was my favorite cash. 975 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 3: Come on, man, you gotta see the one of the 976 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,359 Speaker 3: two raisers will make you do the senior one. So 977 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 3: what we're in the business of doing now is making 978 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: sure that not only do you get a shave washing room, 979 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 3: a proper shave washing room, because you just sitting there. 980 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,279 Speaker 3: A getting a dry haircut is an experience. You might 981 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 3: argue about sports, but a shave washing room is the 982 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 3: only thirty minutes to an hour that the black man 983 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 3: or American working class man gets. That's just his Your wife, No, 984 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 3: I told my wife, you see much shit on buther 985 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 3: fucking white mo don't call me. I'm in the barber shop. 986 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 3: This is your this is your country club. And so 987 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 3: after you get that cut and that exchange happens. Now 988 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 3: you get here and you get to take a piece 989 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,360 Speaker 3: of that culture in the real world with you. And 990 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 3: what you're also about to start seeing from us is content. 991 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 3: We work with actual artists. Ian Claire as an artist, 992 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 3: we work with, Chris Hovey is an artist. Scott Fuller 993 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 3: is a graphic designer we work with. So as we 994 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 3: drop stuff, you're going to see this stuff. Now leave 995 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 3: And this is you know, when we talk about scharm 996 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 3: Shaw were talking about to me, two of the most 997 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: influential Black men walking face of the earth. It means 998 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: something that you're in the shirt because this needs to 999 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 3: say because on the best work determines your work, right, 1000 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 3: these men prove that work ethic determines your bod. 1001 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 2: It actually proves that. So in the real world. 1002 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: I want this culture to leave from behind the counter 1003 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 3: and go in the real world and create positive and 1004 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 3: sustement track. You know what, this reminds me of Troy, 1005 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 3: somebody that interviewed recently. 1006 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: I guess I know what you're gonna say. Said, Yeah, so. 1007 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 3: Another hip hop les, especially when we come. We haven't 1008 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 3: dropped this interview yet. I'm I'm gonna let the count 1009 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 3: that's the man fucking talking about. 1010 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, the go. 1011 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 3: So it's crazy because you know he has a juice bar, Yes, 1012 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 3: I know in Yankas and we went we did the 1013 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: interview in the juice bar, and he was telling us 1014 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 3: how we actually before he got there, the staff was 1015 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 3: telling us how it changed the whole culture in the community, 1016 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,880 Speaker 3: like people come and they look forward to getting the juice, 1017 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: and and it's like and then he was his white 1018 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 3: heim and his wife was telling us, Now they not 1019 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: only do the juices, but they got the online juice, 1020 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 3: and they got the merch, and they got the whole thing. 1021 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 3: They turned into a whole business. So it reminds me 1022 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: of the same thing. It's like, not only are you 1023 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,840 Speaker 3: it's a cultural thing, like you said, it's a culture 1024 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 3: for the community, but you're integrated, vertically rested peace in this. 1025 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to because I'm like, yo, this 1026 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 4: is now like when we went to la we had 1027 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 4: to go to the marathon story too, right, and so 1028 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 4: it was like it becomes a cultural landmark, absolutely, and 1029 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 4: so like you I saw Nipsey out here, I'm like, yo, 1030 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 4: that's what you've created. After a cultural landmark, was like, 1031 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 4: now when you come to Atlanta, you have to come 1032 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 4: and you go to Yonkers. 1033 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:29,800 Speaker 2: Yo, where's the juice bart? You know what I'm saying. 1034 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 4: And it provides not only opportunity for you, but also 1035 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 4: provides opportunity for the community. Because the next thing, it 1036 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 4: was like, Yo, how do we grow because maybe this 1037 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,479 Speaker 4: merch sells out so fast? 1038 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 2: Now you got to get a factory. 1039 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 3: But that also was now a maybe we're in this 1040 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 3: Friday or this Friday or next Friday. I go about 1041 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 3: an hour north of here to look at screen pressing machines, 1042 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 3: as I own a garage not far from here. And 1043 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 3: you know, if you let's use around members, right, drug 1044 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: dealer talking. So we're going to use a ten thousand 1045 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 3: dollars number. Right, So you made ten thousand dollars last 1046 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 3: my fear employees ten thousand dollars. What if I've learned 1047 00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: from my wife whose grandmother ran a liquor shothouse. Right, 1048 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 3: they think, no, they you see a pint, they know 1049 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: how much each shot out that pint costs them. How 1050 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 3: much they should make off of this plan? She says, Well, 1051 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 3: I say, well, how much it costs. 1052 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 2: To make the tea? 1053 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 3: Because if the cost is seven to make the ten, 1054 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 3: the paye three I want to make. I want to 1055 00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 3: put three in and make seven out. I want to 1056 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 3: change that. Right, So I said, how can I cut costs? 1057 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 3: Because I'm looking at the shirts. We like a lot 1058 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: of color, but the more color used, more expensive shirts are. 1059 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 3: I said, Man, the fuck this shit? I said, I 1060 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 3: know somebody got laid off of furlough to fucked up. 1061 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: I know it's somebody that don't want to eat. I 1062 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 3: know it's somebody can run a screenprint operation. I got 1063 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,880 Speaker 3: a building, why don't I just go buy my own machine. 1064 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 3: So we're in the process of doing that right now, right. 1065 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 2: I love Rick Cross's a business man. Rick Ross got 1066 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,759 Speaker 2: three hundred sun Nakers, got hold of feel on shit. 1067 00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 2: The first point is Nigga. 1068 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 3: Lay niggah pack the fucking graund Rick Ross starts a 1069 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 3: grass cunning company. The way he's shouting out John dem 1070 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 3: sure they gave a niggas a pre track. And now 1071 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 3: it's home boys that would say, hey man, let me 1072 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 3: hold a sound saying let me get a job, because 1073 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 3: most people want the dignity of having a job. And 1074 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 3: now he has a way to cycle his money within 1075 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 3: his own ecosystem. Maybe he got Trump's tax mo he 1076 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: shot out too, and now he's able to put the 1077 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,160 Speaker 3: people around him on staff. He's able to dig up 1078 00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 3: John deal. Well he got to have a deal. Roseay, 1079 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 3: you got to sell I need the John Deal. Yeah, 1080 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 3: I'm just about four the boy. I need to track 1081 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 3: the bad. 1082 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: But so that that's it. You have to start. You 1083 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 2: learn to do that. 1084 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,640 Speaker 3: You learn to get in the game at first, and 1085 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 3: then start saying, well, what can I produce? What could 1086 00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,279 Speaker 3: I do you know, so whether it's Jay who got 1087 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,279 Speaker 3: us into doing lighters, so you know, big lighters are 1088 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 3: not cheap, but there are all the lighters I use, 1089 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 3: but people are willing to pay. You know, it's easy 1090 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 3: to say a Knicks past to. You know, it's hard 1091 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 3: to say a dime, but you know it's easy to 1092 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 3: It's easy to. 1093 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: Say a nick. Yeah. 1094 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,239 Speaker 4: Like, so. 1095 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 3: We have the specialty items that are synonymous with kill 1096 00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,800 Speaker 3: a mic. If you watch Trigger Warning, you want to 1097 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 3: know where to get cripple Cole and blood Pop will 1098 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 3: just pop up. Go to the store, you get your 1099 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 3: Cripple col In, Blood Pop and more than like, you're 1100 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 3: gonna say, well, let me grab a new era, let 1101 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 3: me grab a lighter. White Woman came here last week plans. 1102 00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 3: I just bumped up in the shop. 1103 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 2: I just popped up in. White Woman man spent two 1104 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 2: hundred and summer dollars. 1105 00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 3: God blasts a beautiful cat Gunner tar listening to in 1106 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 3: the eighties. So this was the coolest mom ever in 1107 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,000 Speaker 3: the middle of this shop with all black guys, nobody 1108 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,839 Speaker 3: looking minuting. But she was just like my son loves y'all, 1109 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 3: and I wanted to come in he's to run the 1110 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 3: Jewels fanom like we are the coolest motherfucking mom. We 1111 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,880 Speaker 3: took a great pick, but that type of stuff happens 1112 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 3: more often than not. And I've realized that the Slash Shop, 1113 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 3: and you know, a lot of people say it's a brand. 1114 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 3: It absolutely is a brand, but it's a brand based 1115 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 3: around the culture of black and working class barbershops. And 1116 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 3: what my ambition is to have, my small ambition is 1117 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 3: to have one hundred and fifty three in every major 1118 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,560 Speaker 3: black market that's from Buffalo to Miami, from Los Angeles 1119 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: to Charlotte, to have three and to expand. I see 1120 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 3: now as I learn more about this game, and I 1121 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 3: see Floyd's and Rudi's and supercussion great clips, I don't 1122 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,080 Speaker 3: see any reason why we can't get in excess to 1123 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 3: five hundred. 1124 00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 4: So at this point, I'm thinking, when people see you, 1125 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: do they even think about music, Souse, The first thing 1126 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 4: they think about is like. 1127 00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 3: Well, run of Jewleses top ten on the Billboard, two hundred, 1128 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 3: We sold a lot of records. We just did an 1129 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 3: adult swim special I only performance this year that's on 1130 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 3: HBO Max for a month. We arguably the greatest rap 1131 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: duo in the world right now. So I think that 1132 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,840 Speaker 3: people know me from music, but I'm more encouraged that 1133 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,479 Speaker 3: people know me for more than music. 1134 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 2: So my family's from Tuskege, Alabama. 1135 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,400 Speaker 3: And if you talk about Lionel Ritchie, of course you 1136 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 3: start singing and people start thinking of great records. My 1137 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,799 Speaker 3: family's a landown the family. So with my Auntius, remind 1138 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 3: you of you know he about he about a lot 1139 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,959 Speaker 3: of l a baby. He did something with his money. 1140 00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 3: He didn't just give it out the children. So first 1141 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 3: stop having children, not a wetlock. And they didn't buy 1142 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 3: some layer like Lyne of Richie, you know. And and 1143 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 3: I can attend to that because I was talking to 1144 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,120 Speaker 3: a billionaire three days ago and he said, one of 1145 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 3: the most savvy business people I know is an entertainer 1146 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 3: name he calls nail, you know, white wol White Lie 1147 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:23,919 Speaker 3: your nail rich. 1148 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 2: Now, that's dope. 1149 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 3: And even when we get to the bar before and 1150 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,919 Speaker 3: he gave me an idea I never thought about. 1151 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 2: I go to the barber shops my whole life. 1152 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 3: And he was like, how many times you see the 1153 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 3: barber selling hair, grease, selling brooms, selling a brush, selling combes. 1154 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,480 Speaker 3: We said, yeah, it's like what you would think like that, 1155 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 3: that makes sense, that makes complete sense. It's like, why 1156 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,120 Speaker 3: would I have to leave the barbershop to buy I 1157 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 3: hate beauty stores with my wife, so we started brushing. 1158 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 3: I hate born in the beauty stores to buy my grease. 1159 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 3: So we'll make sure everybody gets a brushing stuff too. 1160 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 3: But beyond that, I found a black company based here 1161 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,360 Speaker 3: in Atlanta, that Dutch private Lately that you sit down with, 1162 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520 Speaker 3: let them know what you want. They create a line 1163 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 3: for you. And we've got our own line created and 1164 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 3: we'll be using a black company as I sourced locally 1165 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 3: to supply our line. So by Christmas Day you'll be able. 1166 00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,279 Speaker 3: You'll get gus to get a package to take care 1167 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 3: of your skin, your beard, your face and all that. 1168 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: Because as a guy, man, I'm just simple. I'll go 1169 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 3: to the mall or again, I go to Walters or 1170 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 3: Wish or or I go to sneaker Cartel and I 1171 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,400 Speaker 3: get my kicks. 1172 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 2: I don't feel like doing other shit. You know what 1173 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 2: I'm saying. I want to get Oh man, I'm in 1174 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 2: the shop. I got up. Oh give me that kill 1175 00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,840 Speaker 2: your mouses. Give me, give me that kill your mouses. 1176 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 2: Give me that brush and I need some grease. One 1177 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 2: stop shot, One stop shot man. 1178 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 3: Because I sat in my barber shop on the south 1179 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 3: side of the O G Shop, and I'm sitting there, 1180 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 3: you know, slightly stone, just observing, observing things, and I 1181 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 3: see a guy come in selling socks. I see a 1182 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 3: woman come in selling juices. I see another guy coming 1183 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,959 Speaker 3: in selling shitty storefrom CV. You know what I'm saying. 1184 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 3: And then I'm saying, this isn't just a shop, this 1185 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 3: is a store. But and then you know, I got 1186 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 3: it where it was like again, where did I learned business? 1187 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 2: The trap? 1188 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 3: I start taxing people? Oh you come to myself. I 1189 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:15,959 Speaker 3: got to have I got to have tea. What don't 1190 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 3: make no money? They ain't got nothing to do with me, 1191 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 3: you and my shot spinning. So then they start serving 1192 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 3: on the outside of the door. So then I said, well, 1193 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:22,760 Speaker 3: hey man, you're. 1194 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,120 Speaker 2: All a curd. 1195 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,959 Speaker 3: You got to give me five, but you're not gonna 1196 00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 3: come here and not facing taxations because every. 1197 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 2: Month man, this man want this money. Man. And this 1198 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 2: woman I sleep with. 1199 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 3: Then this fine beautiful woman, she liked money, probably as 1200 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 3: much as she liked me, and she liked me before 1201 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 3: I add money so I can't. 1202 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 2: Go to a telling them, baby, we ain't good. You 1203 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 2: got to pay me for it. 1204 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 3: And that's when I got the understanding that we're not 1205 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 3: a barbershop. We're a store housing crypt of coola and 1206 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,399 Speaker 3: the blood pop doing selling out daily. Shouts out to Thug, 1207 00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,200 Speaker 3: he took a picture with the big Holly ball Low. 1208 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 3: He took a bunch of blood pop up bit to 1209 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,480 Speaker 3: your session last night, so shouts out to Tip, shouts 1210 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 3: out to Thub, shouts out for Savage. 1211 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: They all is Jay partner with you on that? Or 1212 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 2: I know he had purchased something and put it in 1213 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:10,360 Speaker 2: the lyric, and I. 1214 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 3: Was like, yeah, man, he gave us a shout out 1215 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 3: like man to get a free jay Z shout out man, 1216 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, I old Jay for life. If Jake calls 1217 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 3: me tomorrow and says I want to then what are 1218 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,319 Speaker 3: we doing? 1219 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,319 Speaker 2: Sir? You know what I'm saying. 1220 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 3: It's it's still fledgling. We're still building it. We're still 1221 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,720 Speaker 3: very proud of it, and we're determined to make it something. 1222 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,600 Speaker 3: I think that there is room in the market for 1223 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 3: the brands that we built up with street fraternities, with 1224 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 3: neighborhood clicks, with dope sayings. You know what I'm saying, 1225 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 3: that should be an old boy Colone. I was so 1226 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 3: nobody saying Cam It's flying, Cam cauld Sell. Colone is 1227 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,239 Speaker 3: easily as Johnny Tip. You know what I mean, really 1228 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,480 Speaker 3: the old Johnny De. Yeah, like Cam would do that. 1229 00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 3: So my thing is you have to do it for 1230 00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 3: it to be done. So Criple, colon blood pop are 1231 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,240 Speaker 3: real things right now. You can buy them anywhere. Exotic 1232 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 3: pop is so Exotic pop has been doing an adult 1233 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,120 Speaker 3: job of getting it out there. You can buy that 1234 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 3: the locations at the Swashot locations and a few more places, 1235 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,719 Speaker 3: and you want to you know, our goal is to 1236 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 3: go national. How you doing with stocks? I've seen a 1237 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 3: couples that's in my wife question again. You know I 1238 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 3: bought her after I like I bought I bought Shaye. 1239 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 3: These kind of gifts I get my wife crazel like 1240 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 3: if I'm just like in Linux, I went into the 1241 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 3: Apple Store and grass and figures, I'm gonna probably stop 1242 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 3: by Victoria's secrets grab liking panies and bosses. 1243 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,400 Speaker 2: I like to see her, right, I'm probably you know. 1244 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like, I'm probably gonna go you know, 1245 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,240 Speaker 3: pop up at one of the high end perse stores, 1246 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,400 Speaker 3: because that's just happy at this point, and I like 1247 00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,520 Speaker 3: seeing a happier face. 1248 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 2: But you do that so many times and you're just like, 1249 00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,160 Speaker 2: you know, this is it. 1250 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960 Speaker 3: It doesn't hit as hard because a woman, you know, 1251 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 3: like my woman, she likes security, she likes the purses, 1252 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,759 Speaker 3: the boots and that stuff. But but in the last 1253 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,279 Speaker 3: few years, I've gotten more about, let me buy you 1254 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,840 Speaker 3: things that appreciate. So I bought her her grandmother's original house. 1255 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 3: I bought her a duplex in an empowerment zone. I 1256 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 3: bought a set of apartments. I bought a lot of 1257 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 3: cool things for her. Well, the apartment I fought for us. 1258 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 3: The other stuff I bought just for her because I 1259 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,080 Speaker 3: wanted her to be able to make I told her 1260 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 3: early on, if you quit your job and just work 1261 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 3: helping me do me, I'll guarantee you one NY dollars. 1262 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 3: So I was like, my goals, make sure you make 1263 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars a month. And ain't got shit to 1264 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 3: do with me. And you know, a few months ago 1265 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 3: she came in and show me a piece of papers, said, 1266 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 3: you know you got me there. I acknowledge it I 1267 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 3: just want to tell you, thank you, I love you, 1268 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But my wife, but I 1269 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,560 Speaker 3: started buying her stocks and just just ask if you 1270 00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 3: fire hundred stocks just like you know, stuff that I 1271 00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,919 Speaker 3: know we're gonna always use. My grandparents, which is regular 1272 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,480 Speaker 3: working class foks. But they bought me Coca Cola and 1273 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 3: Delta stocks because those were two of the biggest companies here. 1274 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 3: They knew those companies weren't going anywhere. So I don't 1275 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 3: know as much about stocks as she does, but I 1276 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 3: know she's been very happy. 1277 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 2: But I bought her a lot of it. So from Tuskige, Alabama. Right, 1278 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 2: That's yeah. 1279 00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:21,439 Speaker 4: My grandmother family the black to be in this moment 1280 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 4: where you have tens of thousands of people's signing up 1281 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,240 Speaker 4: for your new venture, over one hundred hundred and ten thousand, 1282 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 4: I mean, just talking about the evolution, How does that 1283 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 4: feel at this moment? 1284 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 3: It feels exactly. My great grandfather's father was using New 1285 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 3: Tatie experiment. My great grandparents were sharecroppers. My grandmother also 1286 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 3: sharecropped until they bought their own land. They owned thirty 1287 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 3: three Aggas and Tuskegee that we still currently own. Lumber 1288 00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,439 Speaker 3: companies pay us to cut down trees and use the wood. 1289 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 3: So about you know, January had got a five hundred 1290 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 3: dollars check, bought me and my son some Jay's. 1291 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 2: Actually, but it was time for him. He grew. 1292 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,640 Speaker 3: He had a gross bird, and you know it was 1293 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 3: good to see that something. My great grandparents worked their 1294 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 3: butt off, you know, they really worked, They really worked 1295 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 3: fingers at the ball. My great grandmother argued with her 1296 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 3: husband that she didn't give a damn if it was 1297 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, pickings, even time to harvest everything. That her 1298 00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,479 Speaker 3: children were going to school just like their white folks kids. 1299 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 3: So my grandmother and then were able to go to school, 1300 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 3: and my great grandmother had to work doubly and triply 1301 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 3: as hard as a woman, and her and my great 1302 00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,880 Speaker 3: grandfather provided a platform for their children to then come 1303 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 3: to Atlanta, to not need or want to educate themselves, 1304 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,680 Speaker 3: and to become working class nurses, mechanics, you know, just 1305 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 3: the American dream. Just able to buy home, maybe have 1306 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,040 Speaker 3: a rental property, take your kids on the cash. I 1307 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 3: really had the chocolate version of the American dream thanks 1308 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 3: to my grandparents raising. My grandfather grew up. His father 1309 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,640 Speaker 3: abandoned them at ten years old. He had to raise 1310 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 3: his two sisters with his mother very hard times. His 1311 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,000 Speaker 3: brother in law brews moonshine. He ran moonshine to Atlanta. 1312 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 3: His cousin had a shot house in Atlanta. 1313 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 2: You know, my. 1314 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 3: Grandfather had a radically different life, but it was one 1315 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,280 Speaker 3: of the most kind and sweet man you'll ever want 1316 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 3: to meet. But he was ultimately a libertarian. In his 1317 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,520 Speaker 3: fossip youths. He wanted the government not involved in his life. 1318 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 3: He wanted as least amount of taxes as possible, and 1319 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 3: he wanted the opportunity to fish hunt. He left the 1320 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 3: fuck along. 1321 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 2: You know. He took care of him and his family, 1322 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: and he took care of his neighbors. 1323 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,160 Speaker 3: If we went and caught fifty craft mean walleyte those 1324 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 3: fish were cleaned by my sisters and grandmothers in the back, 1325 01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 3: they were frozen. 1326 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,320 Speaker 2: We kept twenty five. 1327 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 3: The other twenty five were distributed, passed four of the 1328 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 3: fives to the poor and elderly around them. So, you know, 1329 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: for me, my family ingrained in me what you should 1330 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 3: be as a man. My job is the first and 1331 01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 3: foremost take care of myself mentally, fields the spiritually. That's 1332 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,120 Speaker 3: why I came to be in the gym in the morning, 1333 01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: but I go. That's why I drink the water instead 1334 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 3: of cold, because I want to live a long time 1335 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 3: see my grandkids. And that's why I take care of 1336 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 3: my money, because I don't want my grandkids working from 1337 01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 3: a place of treading water to try to get to 1338 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 3: land after they start on the beach, so that they 1339 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 3: can build refuge and help the other people that are 1340 01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,520 Speaker 3: coming in have something. 1341 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 2: You know, so I did. 1342 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 3: I am doing what my great grandfather and grandmother did, 1343 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 3: what my grandparents did, and what my mother and father done, 1344 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 3: and I'm being responsible to myself and my family and 1345 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 3: accountable to my community. 1346 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 2: That's powerful. 1347 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 3: So as far as Green, I know you guys haven't 1348 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 3: launched yet, but can people Like are they signing up? 1349 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 2: It's like on the wait list waiting lists. 1350 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're jumping up on the waiting liss now and 1351 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 3: the amusement park offers up there as they providing jobs, 1352 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,280 Speaker 3: so like if somebody wants to work on the other end, 1353 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 3: So like, I. 1354 01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:38,760 Speaker 2: Know they are hiring people now. 1355 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 3: They they've actually poked some great minds from one of 1356 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 3: the big well a couple of the big four institutions. 1357 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 3: I think more people are being brought off, but I 1358 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,439 Speaker 3: can hit Ryan to the answer. We actually charls a little, 1359 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 3: talking my gout a little out here. He actually was 1360 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 3: just talking to Ryan, and so we're gonna have a 1361 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,080 Speaker 3: call with him next week. 1362 01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:57,920 Speaker 2: That's good. Ryan's a great gutta be dope to a 1363 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 2: great business mind. 1364 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,200 Speaker 3: Because yeah, yeah, I'm sure that because I have some 1365 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 3: questions even about like the ATM, like you could take 1366 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,200 Speaker 3: money out of the ATM, right, yeah, so that that's dope. 1367 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 3: So it's like for people because most people are just 1368 01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,280 Speaker 3: so used to just bricking more than banks. Yeah that 1369 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 3: I like breaking still, yeah, I like going. I have 1370 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 3: both though, Like you have a Capital one account which 1371 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,120 Speaker 3: is on last and now I got it. You got 1372 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 3: a lot of money too. 1373 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 2: The man fell right now. 1374 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 3: So I want to ask you one more question with 1375 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Kobe Rack because you said something that was very interesting. 1376 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 3: In a while ago, I saw an interview your thoughts 1377 01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 3: on education because Troy used to be an educated well 1378 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 3: but he used to be a public school We had 1379 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,640 Speaker 3: a whole argument. We had a whole because me and 1380 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,560 Speaker 3: him is like complete opposites when it comes to school. 1381 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,040 Speaker 3: He worked in schools for his whole life. Pretty much. 1382 01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 3: And I'm like the anti school person, even though I 1383 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 3: do have a college degree. 1384 01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: I said, you're the smart niggawree. 1385 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 3: But the thing about it is, I feel like self 1386 01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 3: education has taught me so much more than form. 1387 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 2: So you would be my grandfather. Okay, So I told 1388 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,280 Speaker 2: my grandfather I got a more house. 1389 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,000 Speaker 3: He's like, in your house. 1390 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 2: I was like, nah, actually I can't. 1391 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 4: I told his perspective is always jaded because he's speaking 1392 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 4: from a place now. I knew him when he was 1393 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 4: in sixth seventh grade. I knew him when he was 1394 01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 4: in ninth grade. He needed to be there right now, 1395 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 4: I said, not even from like an academic standpoint, but 1396 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 4: from the social environment. And some of the academics and 1397 01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 4: things like ye after eighth grade don't even matter, And 1398 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, we kind of still need something, something we 1399 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 4: don't need. 1400 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 2: Why I think school matters. I'm a name names. 1401 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 3: Stanley Pritchard, Robert hitch Pitts, Chief Judge, Joshah Jackson, Cameron Dollar, 1402 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 3: Michael Rinchard, Tip Harris, Keisha, Lance Bobs, Michael Julian, Marvin. 1403 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 2: Airy, Derek. 1404 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:05,800 Speaker 3: All these people are pretty elite amongst having accomplished things 1405 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,480 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. The first five or six people I named 1406 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 3: were direct classmates of mine. So I was socialized around 1407 01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:18,320 Speaker 3: n c A, a champions Chief judges, professional football players, 1408 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,680 Speaker 3: and businessmen. And I was socialized and educated around these 1409 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,120 Speaker 3: people when we were in the sixth grade, in seventh 1410 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 3: grade and eighth grade, and I knew I could be 1411 01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,320 Speaker 3: a rapper because I knew my friend. 1412 01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 2: Play out of basketball. 1413 01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:34,200 Speaker 3: So Cameron Dollard, who went on to one of right, 1414 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 3: So Camera's Me and Cameron were elementary school rivals. All 1415 01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,320 Speaker 3: we did was fun as we fought, and I give 1416 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 3: credit Cameron a lot for challenging me as a kid, 1417 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 3: like he challenged this, and that's just for nothing. 1418 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 2: We were both to the chubby guys he had a 1419 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 2: men had. 1420 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 3: Cameron is an amazing testament to mentality because his dad 1421 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 3: was one of the most winning coaches in the state. 1422 01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 2: He coached at Frederick Douglas High School. 1423 01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so Cam, Cam really sharpened me in terms of saying, 1424 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 3: letting me know that all your friends ain't gonna gently 1425 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,600 Speaker 3: encourage you, so I'm gonna push the shit out of me. 1426 01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 2: So we played, you know, on a team, Cam and 1427 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 2: like losing. So Cam, if I had to be on 1428 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:17,439 Speaker 2: his team. 1429 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 3: He was pushing me the whole guy like chubby as now. 1430 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,200 Speaker 3: So I remember I Shall telling us at twelve she's 1431 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 3: going to need to make it and a lawyer and 1432 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,240 Speaker 3: said we were like, fucking man, what are you talking about? 1433 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 2: The man? It's not even a girl. 1434 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Assha is a fucking she 1435 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 3: judged the cap got the one of the most powerful 1436 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 3: women the state of Georgia. They just took a program 1437 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 3: she created to make this state wide program. And I'm 1438 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,960 Speaker 3: just like she told us, I should push me to 1439 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 3: go to a dinner last week. At the dinner is 1440 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:44,960 Speaker 3: a friend of mine in late I mean not the 1441 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 3: late former mayor of Atlanta on the senior read all 1442 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 3: these other prestigious black men, just to have a conversation. 1443 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:51,439 Speaker 2: That's want another. 1444 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 3: That's how much she cares about me that she pours 1445 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: in my club so school. In terms of socialization, most 1446 01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 3: people who look like us have to wait until they 1447 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,000 Speaker 3: go to a history through the Black College. 1448 01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 2: University to get that type of encouragement. 1449 01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:06,960 Speaker 3: I got that encouragement in third grade from fighting camera 1450 01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 3: grade for my best friend Robert Hicks. 1451 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,520 Speaker 2: In ninth grade from now chief judge Roshah Jackson. 1452 01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:17,760 Speaker 3: My greatest economic encourager was a man named William or 1453 01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:18,360 Speaker 3: Bill Murse. 1454 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 2: He's an art teacher at Frederick Lovel's High School. He's 1455 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 2: a reason that I'm that I love art and just 1456 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 2: saying I figured out a way to make money. 1457 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 3: You know I love art, right. He also was the 1458 01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,560 Speaker 3: first person to tell all these little want to be 1459 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 3: dope boys. They sent me to his his art class twice. 1460 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 3: That was smart, But I have I like to fight. 1461 01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 3: Oh you said, my god, let's do his school a 1462 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 3: lot of school suspension. So they just sent me to 1463 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 3: him twice a day. Send him begins at the end 1464 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,000 Speaker 3: of the day. Man, we don't save peoples. Yeah, I'm 1465 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:52,000 Speaker 3: Herrige classes. Mister Murrige the first person to say by 1466 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 3: land by the Dawn because he understood that the bluff 1467 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 3: the Blessed is where people went to vi hera and die. 1468 01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,080 Speaker 3: But he understood that that land being sold at that 1469 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 3: time one dollar five dollars. The city just needs to 1470 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,400 Speaker 3: get it off, was going to become valuable. That land 1471 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,560 Speaker 3: is the same place that my wife amised me not 1472 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 3: to buy demon and by the department and buying that 1473 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 3: without having touched it. It went from a two hundred 1474 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 3: and fift thousand dollars investment to being worth in excess 1475 01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 3: of say one hundred thousand dollars. So he prepared me 1476 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: for that. He's the same person that calls me now, 1477 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 3: like compete, son, out of my guard. You need to 1478 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,680 Speaker 3: eat healthier like so he, like you, was just an educator, 1479 01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,480 Speaker 3: that's what he is. But he was the first person 1480 01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 3: to help us understand this little want to be d 1481 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,840 Speaker 3: boys and players and pimps and whatever we thought we 1482 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: wanted to be. 1483 01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,400 Speaker 2: You know that you money is a tool or a 1484 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 2: weapon to be used. 1485 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 3: It's not something that you just put gold gold fronts 1486 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 3: end from doctor Joshrey and well started jacket and some 1487 01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,800 Speaker 3: feebles and be the coolest in school. 1488 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 2: It's a tool for you to use. 1489 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,640 Speaker 3: Mister Murray never really worried about the rules of school 1490 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 3: because he was co owner of Murray Brother's funeral home. 1491 01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 3: He owned land at another dome when he used parking 1492 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,960 Speaker 3: like people ain't gonna never stop dying. If you burying people, 1493 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 3: you're gonna stay, You're gonna be good. Yeah, you know 1494 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 3: a long time so I he went to Booker T. 1495 01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 3: Washington High School, noticed the names of the high schools. 1496 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 3: I'm saying to Frederick Guggam's Booker T Washington book T 1497 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 3: Washington educated, Lena Horne and Martin Musther King educated. Most 1498 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 3: of the educators that educated me educated mister Murray and 1499 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 3: then went to Morris Brown College. Mister mister Murray gave 1500 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,720 Speaker 3: me a scholarship with Morris Brown. I choose to take 1501 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,240 Speaker 3: a scholarship at morehouses States. 1502 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,240 Speaker 2: No, it's coming back, Doctor Kevin is bringing that one back. 1503 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 2: So margs brown back. 1504 01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,479 Speaker 3: Just look at all the black confidence buildings that I 1505 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 3: encountered every step of the way. You know, Herman and Russell, 1506 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 3: the largest black real estate development in Southeast built the 1507 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 3: only Scotch breaker in our skyline has a step that 1508 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 3: is thinking of Georgia Pacific building only black devil. I 1509 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 3: think to build that lived five streets back from me. 1510 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 3: I grew up in the little working class houses that 1511 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 3: buffered them, you know, from projects, and then they leave 1512 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 3: them to enter our class. You know, I joke and 1513 01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 3: I laughed about the blue Flame. But the blue flame 1514 01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 3: it's all about Michael Kato, whose father was mister Koe. 1515 01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:00,200 Speaker 3: What's the mister k don't do we don't know the 1516 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,720 Speaker 3: paper bags got delivered to the marching organizers, so what 1517 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 3: the buses could get paid for and people could get killed. 1518 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,200 Speaker 2: I mean, people wouldn't get killed that they were protected 1519 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,759 Speaker 2: by people like the Deacons of Defense. 1520 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840 Speaker 3: You know that happened because people like miss Kato, you know, 1521 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 3: people that the good boogie black folks were frown up. 1522 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 2: Hut. 1523 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, my dad told me one time about working 1524 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 3: booking when mister Kato came in and had been arrested, 1525 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 3: and I said, what to say? He was drunk and 1526 01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,760 Speaker 3: school the brown to say them diamonds and he was 1527 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 3: wearing was blinded everybody. He was such a gentleman. He 1528 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,960 Speaker 3: went down the sat and fom his things and problem, 1529 01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:32,840 Speaker 3: and I said, what happened? 1530 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,400 Speaker 2: He d say. 1531 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 3: Eventually a Jewish lawyer came and he got right out, 1532 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I just those are 1533 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 3: the stories and. 1534 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: The characters I've grown up with. 1535 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, I just wrote a letter for a person ain't 1536 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,040 Speaker 3: Stephen Jones, and he's another big part of the reason 1537 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:51,000 Speaker 3: we're sending this barbershop. I ran in Adamsville, so in 1538 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 3: the front my grandmother's front door. Adamsville was that way 1539 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,360 Speaker 3: in their back door bank head. So Tip grew up 1540 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 3: a few sheets for me, so he ran more sensiment bankhead. 1541 01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 3: I had a great grandmother since so I didn't want 1542 01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 3: to insensible. My auntie was an alibill, so I d 1543 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 3: up getting out of the shrub. 1544 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 2: I wanted to. 1545 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,240 Speaker 3: But Steve I used to go to, who was from 1546 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,880 Speaker 3: going home. He was from Chorlie Lows, Alan Rogers. Steve 1547 01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,439 Speaker 3: was twenty three years old, already had twenty three twenty 1548 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:17,400 Speaker 3: four houses rental properties, already had toe trucks, already had barbershops. 1549 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 3: And he would allow me to just kind of sit 1550 01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: and he just give me game, like my cousin cut. 1551 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,479 Speaker 3: My cousin Jimmy actually was cutting in his shop and he. 1552 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 2: Just you know, I was like it. 1553 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 3: I was a chither of little black head, big buck 1554 01:10:27,680 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 3: to smile, white smile. 1555 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 2: But he was the first person to tell me, get 1556 01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,080 Speaker 2: you one little chain. He said. 1557 01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,920 Speaker 3: He said, well a Roman, he said, like a white 1558 01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,360 Speaker 3: man said, you wear a Roman? He said, white folks, children, 1559 01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,280 Speaker 3: you know I ain't gonna tell you that, he said, 1560 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 3: but you know, he saying, keeps me a white shirt. 1561 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:47,360 Speaker 3: So Steve would wear chrias guest jeans, a stiff white 1562 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 3: shirt or polo style shirt. 1563 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 2: Very simple presidential roles he had on. 1564 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 3: But if you knew money, you knew he had something. 1565 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,640 Speaker 3: So I just would just sit there and I'll sit 1566 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 3: down here and be talking to me, and dudes be 1567 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 3: bringing him McDonald's fast full of ash. But he just 1568 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,120 Speaker 3: impartd all his wisdom. Never offered for me to be 1569 01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,920 Speaker 3: a runner for him, never offered me, no plays, but 1570 01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 3: he just poured a practical wisdom. And for whatever reason, 1571 01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:14,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, but twenty years removed from that, you know, 1572 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 3: he gives a thirty years remove from that, I get 1573 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 3: a chance to write the judge on his behalf and say, 1574 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,160 Speaker 3: you know, please allow this man to come home. You 1575 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,600 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, because if he comes home, I 1576 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,000 Speaker 3: can guarantee you that I'll help him have employment. And 1577 01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 3: many of the lessons that he was learning illegally he 1578 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 3: passed on to me and I have been able to 1579 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:34,839 Speaker 3: use him for the betterment of the community. 1580 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 2: So he is he has a redeemed factor. That's one 1581 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 2: of the proudest moments. I don't know because I haven't 1582 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,040 Speaker 2: heard back from. 1583 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:42,639 Speaker 3: The judge yet, and I haven't heard back from Steve, 1584 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:44,400 Speaker 3: but Steve Digget to let him to judge at the letter. 1585 01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:46,639 Speaker 3: But I'm hoping that how long has he been inside? 1586 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,720 Speaker 3: I think he's rounding up on teen. He had got 1587 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,920 Speaker 3: out for a while. Okay, he snatched back and God 1588 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:56,400 Speaker 3: bless everybody inside man, everybody for sure kill him like 1589 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:57,360 Speaker 3: man has been a. 1590 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:00,560 Speaker 2: Every music us we gotta do. 1591 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,120 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna freestyle no no, no, no no no no, 1592 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:13,679 Speaker 3: get your cash cash Greenwood Baby be on your ass. 1593 01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Yeah bar, I'm not gonna ask the best artists from Atlanta. 1594 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,000 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say, what are the three greatest albums 1595 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:26,719 Speaker 4: that have come. 1596 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: Out of Atlanta? Three greatest albums? Good question? You gotta 1597 01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:34,920 Speaker 2: come out of Atlanta? Good question? Uh huh, that's a 1598 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:45,960 Speaker 2: tough one. I would say the greatest hip hop albums. Sorry, 1599 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 2: you're gonna be tell you. If you don't say one, 1600 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:49,680 Speaker 2: I know which what you're gonna think up too? 1601 01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 4: Can I give your mind spurts from a New York inspectrum? 1602 01:12:54,720 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 4: All right, So I'll start, and I'll start with uh, Equimini. 1603 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 4: I think equipment is probably number one for me. 1604 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 2: I think I don't. I'm not gonna say trap music 1605 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,240 Speaker 2: because I think King is a better album. 1606 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 4: I'll say that, and then I will say for me, 1607 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 4: just on the person that I gotta go, I'm gonna 1608 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:22,639 Speaker 4: go back to outcasts, but I'm gonna speaking about love below. 1609 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 2: But Dre's part two thousands album. I listened to big boys, 1610 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 2: but the two thousand side me. 1611 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,280 Speaker 3: You know off the trap, say trap trap music, change 1612 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,120 Speaker 3: the game a whole lot, Doug motivation, one. 1613 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:44,639 Speaker 2: On one scratch motivation. 1614 01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:46,720 Speaker 3: And then of course, you know, the greatest, one of 1615 01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 3: the greatest albums of all time Confessions. I said hip 1616 01:13:49,520 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 3: hop though the classes in that that's Atlanta. That's Atlanta. 1617 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:10,040 Speaker 3: Shout out to usher Man. I mean, so, what's your 1618 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,719 Speaker 3: what's what's your top three? That's a New York respective. 1619 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 2: I don't I don't really have a top three that 1620 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,639 Speaker 2: you that you grew up on. Maybe maybe just whatever, 1621 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 2: just your favorite what I'll just say, artists that. 1622 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,200 Speaker 3: I'll give I'll give artists that I think deserve recognition, 1623 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,639 Speaker 3: that will that never get named it's a big machine, 1624 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 3: weren't behind. 1625 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 2: And I'll give you three artists that matter a lot 1626 01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 2: of Atlanta. Uh Ali, So you hear any of those 1627 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 2: songs about you know. 1628 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 3: That that is that is that is that is Ali 1629 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 3: and he was as daring and brave and singing as 1630 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,679 Speaker 3: Andre three thousand ever was, and weirdly dressing before Andre 1631 01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 3: three thousands right. 1632 01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 2: Uh, So Kilo is definitely to be heralded. 1633 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:06,200 Speaker 3: DJ Toomp cool and I connect him because DJ Tump 1634 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,680 Speaker 3: was there doing mc sh i d who was a 1635 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,200 Speaker 3: transplant from the Bronx here who came to Atlanta kind 1636 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,040 Speaker 3: of set off that the possibility. 1637 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 2: It can happen. 1638 01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:18,439 Speaker 3: He was the DJ and making beats back then to 1639 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:22,360 Speaker 3: Jedus Round. He also went to work at for Uncle 1640 01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 3: Luke Records for a while and then he ended up 1641 01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 3: inventing co inventing the sound for what we call trapp trapped. 1642 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,320 Speaker 3: My good friend TII who major listed rightfully. 1643 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: So and so that's q R Lee. 1644 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,439 Speaker 3: That's DJ Toomp and I'd like to give a person 1645 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 3: and outcasts him shine because he's one of the greatest 1646 01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:44,519 Speaker 3: DJs in the world. He's one of the greatest musical 1647 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,880 Speaker 3: conductors of one of the greatest groups in the world, 1648 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,640 Speaker 3: but although never considered a part of the group, as 1649 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:52,720 Speaker 3: instrumental in why they put on amazing live shows. And 1650 01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,120 Speaker 3: that's DJ cut Masters Swift, who also comes down because 1651 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:58,439 Speaker 3: for US and it's featured on the New Ben and 1652 01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 3: Jerry's Holy Lamb, a vote collaboration with one of the 1653 01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 3: Jewels that's on HBO. 1654 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:03,160 Speaker 2: Max all month. 1655 01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,719 Speaker 3: He cuts on Goonies versus DT and just so people 1656 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,719 Speaker 3: can get some contexts, this the equivalent of having Slash 1657 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,320 Speaker 3: come out and justuitar your ship because he likes you 1658 01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,360 Speaker 3: and doesn't charge you for it. So I would say 1659 01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,560 Speaker 3: those three people have had a bigger effect. And you 1660 01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,040 Speaker 3: can argue albums because when you're gonna talk about it, 1661 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 3: you know, you leave out people like Chris Cross. 1662 01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:26,080 Speaker 2: Jermaine and them kind of kicking. 1663 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 3: Gut Chris Cross. You don't get out pants without out pants. 1664 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 3: You don't get the often left thoughts of this goodie mob. 1665 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 3: Al Is on the show Amaze exactly. The second album 1666 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 3: was even wilder and the first album. 1667 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 2: And I feeling so you have you're leaving off, You're 1668 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:45,719 Speaker 2: leaving out them. 1669 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 3: You leave off Kilo Mafia trade from the Deck, who 1670 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 3: was amazing, you know, was getting to Luda and also 1671 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 3: not mentioned in the Atlanta context, although Jeezy from Atlanta 1672 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,040 Speaker 3: by where this way he got then originally from making 1673 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,639 Speaker 3: It's a little further even south than making a place 1674 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,160 Speaker 3: called or. 1675 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,679 Speaker 2: All Benny Georgia that produced a group called. 1676 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 3: Fild Mobs of the County in terms of accent and enable. 1677 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 3: Our wrap of Christmas wrapping Rapper with eight Arms Smoke 1678 01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,439 Speaker 3: and Son Jay are two of the greatest lyrics is 1679 01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 3: ever produced from Georgia. 1680 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 2: Red Clay. 1681 01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,519 Speaker 3: So for me, there's a whole list of people that 1682 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 3: you never think but I definitely acknowledge it and. 1683 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,040 Speaker 2: Agree with about the new including users rock with us, 1684 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 2: New Dudes. What new dudes are like? Man? 1685 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 3: I like the new waves. Man, I'm I don't know 1686 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 3: if you can even call it like Doug New anymore. 1687 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:40,200 Speaker 3: I love I love a savage just drop, I love 1688 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 3: I love a sunny Digital and metro Booming created. 1689 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,840 Speaker 2: Light Year as a young artists. 1690 01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:48,680 Speaker 3: I love Resting peaster An artists named Bags who's from 1691 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,559 Speaker 3: the cater rich mean brother who died in a clarts 1692 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,679 Speaker 3: then he was absolutely amazing. Ra Ros another guy Earth 1693 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,680 Speaker 3: Game missed a lot of Big Lotto is amazing. 1694 01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,320 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I can't forget got out 1695 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,600 Speaker 2: walked to Gucci Gui. 1696 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:10,160 Speaker 3: Giving people opportunity, and I think oftentimes yeah, yeah, he's 1697 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:14,360 Speaker 3: giving people opportunity and and and it's probably gonna be 1698 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 3: in the in the sainthood of having blessed people in 1699 01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 3: this lifetime. So I got to give that and all 1700 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 3: the guys that have made it beg here have blessed people. 1701 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:26,679 Speaker 3: I gotta say that. Glucci, though constantly is co signing 1702 01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:29,439 Speaker 3: what it seems the next wave is. And I really 1703 01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: and I really see that, and you can see it 1704 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 3: in the people he's in partiers and with you. 1705 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,639 Speaker 2: Look at little baby. When I asked my that's my son, 1706 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,640 Speaker 2: that's my love. That's not only because he wrapped his 1707 01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 2: ass off. He's wives and young. This year I asked 1708 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,400 Speaker 2: my son Pony. I was like, who you like right now? 1709 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,800 Speaker 3: He was like, I said, free Rado. He said, yeah, 1710 01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,200 Speaker 3: that I like Rabo, the rob on that's locked up 1711 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 3: Free Rollo, who's from Simpson. But there's another kid out 1712 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:51,960 Speaker 3: of Bama. 1713 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:52,479 Speaker 2: I think that. 1714 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 3: He was like, check him out, and I think he's 1715 01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:59,400 Speaker 3: on babies Michael too, baby. 1716 01:18:59,000 --> 01:18:59,479 Speaker 2: Sitty girl. 1717 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,720 Speaker 3: You know, not from Atlanta, you see, do you know? 1718 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 3: But we've had great artists. Man, the grip Flaves, you 1719 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. Judge comes on to the dungeon, 1720 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:15,040 Speaker 3: FamoSOS legend and legend. I knew they was gonna be 1721 01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 3: one of it was who I used to tell them 1722 01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 3: this at the airport. And I see when I still 1723 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:19,599 Speaker 3: some type of like, hey man. 1724 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,599 Speaker 2: Every time I see all y'all dressed a lot, y'all 1725 01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 2: got y'all. 1726 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 3: You know, when they were still cut some flights, I 1727 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,440 Speaker 3: was like, man, the boys like them, Boy's gonna bloat. 1728 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 2: And the next thing you know, the game. Man, it's easy. 1729 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 2: I'll be happy for folks. Man, I want people to 1730 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:36,960 Speaker 2: practice that more. 1731 01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 3: Be happy when you see people succeeding, as it gives 1732 01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 3: the possibility of you succeeding a greater chance. But nah, Mike, man, 1733 01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 3: it's been a pleasure. Once again, I appreciate you. You 1734 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:49,439 Speaker 3: really really doing a great job for the coach, and 1735 01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 3: not just the coach, in the whole entire world. And 1736 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,200 Speaker 3: for you to take time out of your busy schedule 1737 01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,720 Speaker 3: absolutely to sit with us is really humbling. And how 1738 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,320 Speaker 3: can the people get more information on all the endeavors? 1739 01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 3: How can they support the business? Just follow me on Instagram, 1740 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,559 Speaker 3: killing Mike, you get to see what I'm running around 1741 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 3: supporting banking seafood, which I call on t I Noel 1742 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,160 Speaker 3: Kalil who's a successful developer. Here you get a chance 1743 01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:11,920 Speaker 3: to see what we're doing in the slash shop and 1744 01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 3: go to the bulls of slash Shop. Edward the slash 1745 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,879 Speaker 3: Shop edguy come here and you also get to see. 1746 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,559 Speaker 2: What we're doing with green With. So follow bank bring 1747 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,360 Speaker 2: with as well. It's just I'm always putting up. I 1748 01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 2: put up cars, I like, I put up, I put up, 1749 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 2: put up a lot of rations, ship too, businesses, businesses 1750 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,519 Speaker 2: I like, and art and artists I like. You know, 1751 01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,400 Speaker 2: so you know, if you follow me, you'll get a 1752 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 2: sense of the stuff that I'm doing. 1753 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,680 Speaker 3: And I just appreciate what you guys are doing in 1754 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 3: terms of being the platform and providing playing speak in. 1755 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 2: The in the midst of business speak. 1756 01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 3: Right, there's a lot of times we don't pull the 1757 01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:50,920 Speaker 3: trigger because we're afraid. We're not even afraid of failing, 1758 01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 3: we're afraid of not understanding. And you guys help bring about, 1759 01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:58,560 Speaker 3: you know, wisdom and understanding and and and eliminate some 1760 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,720 Speaker 3: of the anxiety and fear that people have. That's one 1761 01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,760 Speaker 3: reason I started following it again AKA Nney. You guys 1762 01:21:03,840 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 3: have to follow her. Besides being wickedly clever or retort 1763 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,200 Speaker 3: to the people, but she doesn't do as much. 1764 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 2: Now. 1765 01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,160 Speaker 3: What she does is help you to confer the fear 1766 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:18,759 Speaker 3: and anxiety back in fronting the realities of going into stuff, 1767 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 3: so that you go in prepare. You know what I'm saying, 1768 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:23,560 Speaker 3: you're not afraid of the shootout, if you trained, you 1769 01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. And if you know how to medically. 1770 01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Take care of yourself and you're not as afraid. You 1771 01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 2: know so because you're prepared. She really helps us be prepared. 1772 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 3: She gave me some advice. Wants to take the focus 1773 01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:39,200 Speaker 3: off so much you right, and put it on your brain. 1774 01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 3: And what I did was married part of who I 1775 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 3: was with the brand. So other companies, you know, when 1776 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,920 Speaker 3: this stuff pops off and run the Jules is doing well, 1777 01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,280 Speaker 3: or when Mike said something on TV, people saying the light, 1778 01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:53,200 Speaker 3: they'll come and get me. 1779 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,040 Speaker 2: They'll give me some money to say, hey, stand behind 1780 01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,600 Speaker 2: our brand. But I'm like, if my face. 1781 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 3: Can sell a pair of sneakers, if my face can 1782 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,679 Speaker 3: help Catillac, or you know, if my face can help 1783 01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:04,240 Speaker 3: you know. 1784 01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,000 Speaker 2: A beer aligned, why can't my face go on merch 1785 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:07,840 Speaker 2: for my shop? 1786 01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 3: And why can't we replicate that then with other people 1787 01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 3: so we've been given permission by some other artists to 1788 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 3: also use their images. 1789 01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,280 Speaker 2: So we're wanna partner with artists that sing and dance, 1790 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 2: and we're gonna partner with actual artists that I like. 1791 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,760 Speaker 3: So there's a whole world out there of cool things 1792 01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,800 Speaker 3: happening that we have an opportunity to money size and 1793 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 3: if you follow me, I'm gonna be you know, using it. 1794 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,519 Speaker 3: And I'm always looking for people to work and collaborate with. 1795 01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:36,439 Speaker 3: So look forward to some cool T shirt collaboration. Look 1796 01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,120 Speaker 3: forward for some cool products of merchandise and stuff. 1797 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:39,360 Speaker 2: For your hair. 1798 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,360 Speaker 3: Face again, Scout beer, and you know, if you come 1799 01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 3: to Atlanta, three sixty five Edwood are right here to 1800 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,680 Speaker 3: home Base, right here to the flagship store. Our other 1801 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 3: store is on thirty four to sixty one rows Gold Highway. 1802 01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,519 Speaker 3: We have one to State Farm Arena as closed through 1803 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,040 Speaker 3: the cold and the NBA, but we're gonna be branching 1804 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:56,880 Speaker 3: out over the next two years. Ten more school. 1805 01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,920 Speaker 2: So Troy House keeping a shot. 1806 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,120 Speaker 4: Everybody on Patreon dot com, y'all know that's our prod 1807 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 4: to pay program. 1808 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,200 Speaker 2: Shout everybody that has a T five member. 1809 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,640 Speaker 4: Y'all also have access to E y l University, the 1810 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:11,760 Speaker 4: number one online school for business and anything related with finance. Man, 1811 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:13,599 Speaker 4: So shout everybody that's in there. We got a four 1812 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 4: thousand members, we all of y'all. Shout to gen that's 1813 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,280 Speaker 4: been holding us down. And shout everybody that is supporting 1814 01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,200 Speaker 4: the merch and our team, our team behind them. 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