1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Before we begin, a reminder to please rate and review 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: our show. It helps new listeners discover us and grow 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: the program. On this episode of Sports Illustrated Weekly, we 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: review Hard Knocks and preview the NFL season with Dan 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Hansis from the Around the NFL podcast and Colleen Wolf 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: from NFL Network and also our living room. I'm your host, 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: John Gonzalez from Sports Illustrated and I Heart Radio. This 8 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: is Sports Illustrated Weekly. Dan and Colleen, Welcome back to 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated Weekly. It's so great to be here. Thanks 10 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: for letting me borrow your headphones. John. I love having 11 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: repew offenders on the program. So great to see you guys. 12 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the upcoming season. We're also going 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: to talk about the other show that you two have, Cooking, 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: but first I want to discuss the show that you 15 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: two are wrapping up, Hard Knocks with the Detroit Lions. 16 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: You've reviewed every episode. It's always a great show. Although 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it's really amazing that they've managed to do 18 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: something that Hard Knocks had never previously done, at least 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: from my experience, which was find a team that did 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: not convince me that they're going to win the super 21 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: Bowl that includes Bill O'Brien's Houston Texans, which Colleen will remember. 22 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: I was like, I think this is their year. Turns 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: out it wasn't. What if you guys made of the 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: lines on Hard Knocks so far, it's true. I think 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: it's a good call. Sorry, Colleen, go ahead, No, it's 26 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: all right. We're still finding our rhythm, you know what 27 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: I mean. Listen, we all of us are are doing 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: the dance right now, and you can't. You can't can 29 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: this chemistry. It's just like it comes natural for us. 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh God help us now. Anyway, Hard Knocks, it's amazing. 31 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: We've had so many ridiculous recap episodes. I feel like, 32 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: just talking about like the word art that is in 33 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: the auditorium behind the players, or in Dan Campbell's office, 34 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: or just like the many different catchphrases and weird quotes 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: that Hamble has. He could really have the show and 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: carry it for an entire NFL season. So it's been 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: it's been fun. They're not gonna win the Super Bowl, 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: but I still feel like they're gonna be a little 39 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 1: bit better than they were last year. You know what, 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: John I I I agree with you too, And I've 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: I've written about Hard Knocks for over a decade for 42 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com, and I always almost always came out 43 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: of it the same way as you did. Maybe that's 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: maybe there are some minor tweaks to the storytelling for 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: NFL Films for this season, and I think it has 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: been a really kind of in a way of return 47 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: to form for the show. You kind of see some 48 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: of the warts there as well, and you see, especially 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: on defense, they have a long way to go. The 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: fact that one of their underdog stories this year, Malcolm Rodriguez, 51 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: who they called Rodrigo, is probably starting at linebacker. Not 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: only is he making the team as the sixth round 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: picky starting kind of tells you and gives you an 54 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: idea that the line still have a long way to 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: go to really build this thing up to contention. And 56 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: I feel like to another big thing John, I think 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: that you would love is the fact that the coaching staff, 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and specifically Do Staley, is such a huge character on 59 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: the show. And I feel like this year, specifically, the 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff takes a character in and of itself, almost 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: like it it plays such a huge role in the show. 62 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: The way that the coaches interact and the way that 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: they are former players, but they want to be known 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: as coaches that played instead of former players that are coaching, 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: and kind of like that is a huge driving force. 66 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: I feel like behind the season in Detroit. Yeah, I've 67 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: enjoyed Hard Knocks. I always enjoy Hard Knocks. It's a 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: credit HBO. It's consistently fantastic. I think your point, though, 69 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: for the two of you just made like when the 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: coaches are the stars of the show a little bit 71 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: of a red flag for me. Maybeally, I'm like a 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: little nervous about this. Um, what about Jared Goff, Like, 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: do you guys have any faith in him at all? Well, 74 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna do the preview of the actual season coming, 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I'll let you take this. That's a loaded question because 76 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: if you're talking about him as a sports documentary entity, 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: I would say the floor is very low here, John, 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: and there's not We're pretty after the fourth season of 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: him being covered by NFL Films for a major documentary series, 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: we kind of know what we're getting at this point. 81 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: But I think that kind of also speaks to what 82 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: you're saying that the coaching staff that is a secret 83 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: weapon in these Hard Knocks seasons. So it's less of 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: a red flags we more of a bonus because if 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you have a charismatic head coach, great that that you 86 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: can hang a season on that. But the shows that 87 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: stand out to me are the ones where the offensive 88 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: coordinator there's some juice there, the d C when there's 89 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: heat between those two guys, that famous Brown season a 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, where the coaching staff is just 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: warring at each other in a private meeting. That stuff 92 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: is really good. So they are a disadvantage because they 93 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: made a purposeful decision to kind of not push the 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 1: QB one, which you would think would be a centerpiece 95 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: of the players studies for any any football show. But 96 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: it's the right move because we know Jared Goff. Let's 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: learn about somebody else. Yeah, I'm after the Rams appearance 98 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: with Jared Goff where he didn't know where the sun sets, 99 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm probably good on Jared Goff. That's 100 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks related question for you guys. Where did 101 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: this season fall in the overarching pantheon of hard knocks seasons? 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: The middle of the pack? How do you well? I 103 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: think Dan has a better barometer for this because he's 104 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: been doing the Hard Knocks recaps for years and years, 105 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: so he's really been combing through all of these episodes 106 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: every single year. I feel like I kind of came 107 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,799 Speaker 1: in this year, and because of the podcast, I'm watching 108 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: it in a much different way. I'm just consuming it 109 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: in a different manner because years past, it was just 110 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: like a way easier thing and I wasn't diving into 111 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: all the different like minutia in every episode. But I 112 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: think that this episode is really interesting because of all 113 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: of the characters that you didn't think we're going to 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: be characters on the show. Like, I mean, we knew 115 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: that Jared Golf wasn't going to be like an A 116 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: type guy on the show, but other people have kind 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: of stepped up and colored that in. So for me, 118 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I think that this this season is pretty good, like 119 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: Top Wild, Top five. So wait, su Ser, let's get 120 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: some chocolate in the peanut butter. Give me some Hard 121 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Knocks power ranking here for this. Yeah, you want some 122 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks power rankings. You know I'm a Hoomer. You 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: know I'm a native New Yorker. And there's only two 124 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: things that Jets fans have. We have Joe Namath, which 125 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: many of us weren't around for and we have the 126 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: two thousand ten season of Hard Knocks with Rex Ryan. 127 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: Those like the two things we have. And even though 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: it comes off as Homer, that was a special season 129 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: of that show. And you talk to anybody behind the scenes, 130 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 1: uh with HBO and NFL films, anybody that loves the show. 131 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: The Jets season with Rex kind of stands to me 132 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: above everything. I love that aforementioned brown season because they 133 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: were coming off oh and sixteen Baker was entering the 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: scene and he had his own charisma, his own like 135 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: party RV if you recall. And then all the drama 136 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: around Hugh Jackson, who was kind of a charming presence 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: in the Bengals Hard Knocks season when he was the 138 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: o C. But here he was under siege at head coach, 139 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: with a bunch of snakes underneath him looking to take 140 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: him down. So you had all this great intrigue around 141 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: the Browns. So I put that kind of in the 142 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: number two spot. Um, you could argue lines maybe number 143 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: three in the power And I think this has really 144 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: been a fun story because I think the city and 145 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: the football town always plays a big role, and everyone 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of likes Detroit They like the idea of the 147 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: lines finally finding their way, and Campbell is this guy 148 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: that's saying, we got grit, We're prideful of where we're from, 149 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: but we're willing and we're ready to change the script. 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: And you kind of feel that energy. I think it's 151 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: been a really warm season. I feel like you could 152 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: tell the closeness of the players and um, you know, 153 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: I need to see them stick the landing in episode five, 154 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: but I think I could slot him in at number 155 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: three here potentially, wow, much higher than I thought. As 156 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: people listen to this episode of our show, the final 157 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: episode of your Hard Knocks show will be out, so 158 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: we encourage everybody to go back and listen to that. 159 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: That chemistry that you saw or listen to between these 160 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: two earlier in the program will be Hold Hold the Supply. Uh. 161 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: And also they've got a new show coming out. We 162 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: encourage you to listen to that and also watch it. 163 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: It's the Power Ranking Show. UH. That will be a podcast. 164 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: And also Dan it will be streaming. Correct, it is 165 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: streaming as well, and it's it's a podcast Colleen's hosting. 166 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: It's like the first parts I've ever done where I'm 167 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: not the host and uh so, John, it's like she's 168 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. It's like you guys in your house. 169 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be interesting for me to see how 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: she guides things. Now. I know it well. I know 171 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: it well, and I wish you well. Uh So, I 172 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: encourage everybody to listen to that. But I thought for 173 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: you too, because you're gonna do the power rankings. I'm 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: not gonna have you power rank here on this show. 175 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to give away the game just yet. 176 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: But we're gonna go through the divisions and find out 177 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: what you like, what you don't like, and maybe pick 178 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: some division winner. So we're gonna start in the FC East. 179 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: As Dan mentioned, he's a Homer. He's got his New 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: York Jets there, that Dolphins, the Patriots, and the Bills. 181 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: Uh what are we like from these? It's the Bills 182 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: probably what Yeah, I feel like if this is like 183 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: the easiest division right down to pick out of all 184 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, this one is Bills all the way, 185 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: if anything that you know, the Bills of the team 186 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: with the high sealing, the Bills of the team that 187 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: came off that heartbreaking playoff loss and have reloaded now 188 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: with von Miller. I think this is the division I 189 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: would actually feel the most confident saying that is the 190 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: team that wins the division and probably gets a buy 191 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: in the a f C. Colleen, are you buying any 192 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: Dolphins scrappiness? No, I mean I think that they're gonna 193 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: be way more interesting than they've been in the past. 194 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: And I like Mike McDaniel and his like mad scientists 195 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: way and he's really good just in terms of like 196 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: a run game, So I think that that could be 197 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: interesting because I'm not like totally sold onto his arm 198 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: like most people right now. But the Bills are Super 199 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: Bowl favorite, so of course they're going to be favorites 200 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: to win the division. Dan is a self respecting Philadelphia 201 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: and I would never normally do this, but here's your 202 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about a New York team. It's not 203 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: the Giant, so we'll allow it. It's the Jets. How 204 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: do you feel about the Jets this season? I think, 205 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, I just the new Power rankings, that's that's 206 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: out has the Jets. I believe that about twenty six, 207 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: So that's where I have him right now. But here's 208 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: the thing, like they really are building something there that 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: you couldn't say the last couple of years. They have 210 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: skill players, an interesting young talent on both sides of 211 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: the ball. What they need, and this is gonna feel simplistic, 212 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: but it's basic, Like if they just get proficient quarterback play, 213 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: they don't even need star quarterback. But they don't need 214 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to be a stud or Joe Flacco if 215 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: he ends up getting more starts than Wilson. You need 216 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: somebody that could be a professional and run that offense. 217 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: And I think they could hang around hypothetically or potentially 218 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: in the a f C playoff race, not in the 219 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: a f C East, but in the a f C 220 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: wild card race where there's three wild cards. It's just 221 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: a matter of getting that play. They have a really 222 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: good running game and approved offensive line, some real interesting 223 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: talent and wide receiver, and the defense has interesting players 224 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: in the back end with Sauce Gardner there uh and 225 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: the front seven, especially a defensive line is stacked. So 226 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: it's just like, give us decent quarterback, like give us 227 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick in two thousand fifteen, and I think this 228 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: team could win like eight or nine games. You are 229 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: the hard knocks of Jets. Fans because you just sold 230 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: me on the Jets all of a sudden. I'm like, 231 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: and you know what, you do this to me in 232 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: the same way that hard knocks does it to me 233 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: because you get optimistic about them. You were super high 234 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: on Zack Wilson coming out, and then you know last 235 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: year happened, but you you sold me again. Maybe this 236 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: is it for the Jets. Fingers crossed body fingers. Let's 237 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: go to the a f C North. You've got the 238 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: defending a f C champion Cincinnati Bengals. Shouts to West 239 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, the rebuilding Pittsburgh Steelers, and the revamped Cleveland Browns, 240 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 1: who have not covered themselves in glory off the field. 241 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: We know when we don't like, what do we like? 242 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I actually really like the Ravens. Here. We always see 243 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: teams go worst to first every year, and I think 244 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: the Ravens have the best shot to be that exact 245 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: thing this year. They had so many injuries last season. 246 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: They lost all of their running backs before the year 247 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: even started. They had like no cornerbacks whatsoever. It was like, 248 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: really really bleak for a while. So just getting those 249 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: guys healthy, they're automatically better and then when you have 250 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: the Brown send the Steelers with their quarterback issues, Like, 251 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: it's really to me just the Ravens and the Bengals, 252 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: and I think the Ravens might edge out the Bengals 253 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: this year for the division. M I certainly could see 254 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: that they're my top two teams. That seemed like a 255 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: very doubtful skeptical from you hands us. No. I certainly 256 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: could see because I have the Bengals at number five 257 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: as we start the season in the powering is I 258 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: have the Ravens at ten, and they both have the 259 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: potential to win eleven twelve games. Health is so important 260 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: for both. You know, can Burrow stay healthy at offensive line? 261 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: They put money and resources into it this year, but 262 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm still not so sure it's good. And with Baltimore, 263 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: if there's regression, then they're gonna stay healthy, and then 264 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna be an m v P again. The 265 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Steelers are the kind of interesting team for me in 266 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: the division in terms of let's see what happens here, 267 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: because we'll see what when Kenny Pickett enters the free quarterback. 268 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: I assume it will happen unless you're a Mitched Robinsky truther. 269 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: But the offensive line for them is woeful. I don't 270 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: think that got much at or at all. And and 271 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: you just you just wonder if pick he gets put 272 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: into a bad situation, if they can't protect him. But 273 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: if they work things out on that old line, and 274 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin is such a great coach, they're always 275 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: in the mix. I would not be surprised if they're 276 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: also in the running for the division come December. Man, 277 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: that Bengals season last year was so magical and we 278 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: had the two of you on to mark the one 279 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: year anniversary of Chris Westling's passing, and like it just 280 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: felt right. It would be awesome if they could recapture 281 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: that magic. Anytime that the Bengals are doing well, it 282 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,959 Speaker 1: makes me think of west So that's the fingers crossed 283 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: from me on that one. A f C South, We've 284 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: got the Texans, the Colts, the Jaguars, no more Urban 285 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: Meyer r I P. He's gone off to Broadcaster heaven 286 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: well maybe not having uh Tennessee Titans as well. What 287 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, Urban not the greatest guy. What do we 288 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: think about what do we think about the South? Here? 289 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: This seems like a like a really boring, awful division. Sorry, 290 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about urban Meyer at the Gates of St. Peter, 291 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: just like trying to explain that you know it was 292 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: it was Cincinnati. It's a good nightline. She was friendly, 293 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: it was a Thursday, like exactly. I love the Colts. 294 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: I think obviously, whenever I stopped at these cities and 295 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: these teams for training camp, I end up drinking all 296 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: of the kool aid. But the Colts I drank the 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: most kool Aid. And I love them. I love Matt 298 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: Ryan with this offense, with he hasn't had a running 299 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: game like this and so long, and obviously the running 300 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: game is what makes this whole team go. But their 301 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: defense is also really underrated, and I think they have 302 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: actually some pretty good pass catchers that just aren't really 303 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: like top of the radar. And when you put a 304 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: guy like Matt Ryan in there and you pair him 305 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: up with Frank Reich, I mean, the Carson Wentz experiment 306 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: went so wrong last year, and I think that they 307 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: have all of the pieces. They just needed someone at 308 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: quarterback to not turn the ball over, to not make 309 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: at breaking mistakes at the absolute worst times. And I 310 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: think that Matt Ryan can be that guy. Dan can 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: I tell you that between the combine and inside training camp, 312 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Colleen spends an inordinate amount of time in Indianapolis, and 313 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: every time she comes back, she's like, you know what 314 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: I love and I'm like, no, get out of people 315 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: who live in Indianapolis don't love Indianapolis that much. That 316 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: is yeah, that's you know, the cults. I picked them 317 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: to win the Division two and and the Tennessee Titans 318 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: lost Harold Landry, their best defensive player in their front seven, 319 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: to an a c L tear and practice recently. And 320 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: that's just crushing because I think they're right on the 321 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: margin where they could drop down and be a five 322 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: hundred team. You take out a playmaker like remember he 323 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: had three of the nine sacks of Joe Burrow in 324 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: that playoff loss in January. Now he's just gone and 325 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: there's no time to identify a replacement from outside the building. 326 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: So I think the Titans are gonna be an uphill climb. 327 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: I think the Texans, despite my buddies on around the NFL, 328 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: Greg and Mark gassing them up, I think the Texans 329 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: still have a long way to go. The Jaguars are interesting, 330 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: real they are. They are out of urban Meyer that 331 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: was definitely Urban Meyer. Hell, they're out of that, and 332 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: they put a lot of money and resources into the team. 333 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: They got a professional head coach. I think you guys 334 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: know who the coach is, Doug Peterson, who had some 335 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: success that you guys might know about. And Trevor Lawrence. 336 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: It's not like he's no longer a generational prospect. He 337 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: was just put in the worst situation a rookie could 338 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: be in. I would he takes a big leap. I 339 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: want to ask you both about Trevor Lawrence because he 340 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: was so hyped up coming out and I realized that 341 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: he had to overcome the urban Meyer hurdles, many of them. 342 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: But how much of it was Urban Meyer and that 343 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: whole situation being toxic and like just terrible coaching, and 344 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: how much of it was he didn't play well well? 345 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they also weren't built for him to succeed, 346 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: so he didn't have what he needed even if he 347 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: had a normal coaching staff. And the way that the 348 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: urban Meyer thing unfolded, I mean it sounded like borderline abusive. 349 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean he's kicking kicker, like physically, physically, mentally, all 350 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: of it. I can't imagine being a rookie coming into 351 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: the NFL with such a high draft picks status on 352 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: your shoulders and then being thrown into that scenario. Like, 353 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be way better than what 354 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: we saw that first year, because that first year was bonkers. 355 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: Like he caught St. Peter on the good day and St. 356 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Peter's about to walk through the let him walk through 357 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: the gates, and then St. Peter looks at his notes 358 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: one last time, it's like, oh, wait, you kicked the guy. 359 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 1: Can I tell you that you both know him? But 360 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: sys connor Or was on the program to discuss urban 361 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: Meyer's departure, and I don't think he's ever been more 362 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: excited about anything than to discuss urban Meyer kicking the kicker. 363 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: So I guess we're not on Jacksonville, but I hope 364 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson does. Well. Uh, we'll move to the a 365 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: f C. What did you end up picking handsas we 366 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: know where Colleen is. I had the Cults, but I 367 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: had the Jackson maybe flirting with a playoff spot. If 368 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: things break the right way, that'd be cool. That'd be 369 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: cool for Peterson, all right? Last one in the f 370 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: C West loaded Bronch Those chiefs Las Vegas Raiders and 371 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Great division. Which way do we go here? 372 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: And my powering is I got Chiefs seven, Broncos eight, 373 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: Chargers nine, and Raiders eleven. So so I like I 374 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: like the division. I think I don't think it's hype. 375 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: I think they're all very good teams. Now we know 376 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: how sports work, there's probably gonna be one team season 377 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: gets ruined by injuries or the ball doesn't bounce the 378 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: right way in crucial spots and then up seven and ten. Yeah, 379 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: that's certainly possible. But just from what their potential is, 380 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: the talent on these rosters, they're all very good. And 381 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: I have the Chiefs mostly because of my homes, but 382 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: I understand with no Tyreek kill there, they have to 383 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: change some things. But maybe that's not the worst thing. 384 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: Gonzo like the idea that if we all we all 385 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: watch that a C Championship game in the second half 386 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: against the Bengals where the the offense just went to 387 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: sleep in a unbelievable way, that maybe it was time 388 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: to mix some things up, change some things up. And 389 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: even if you don't get better by sending a Hall 390 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: of Famer out your door and hill, that makes you 391 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: think differently how to attack teams and they get a 392 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: refresh that way, Colleen, Uh, you run into I feel 393 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: like Siarra and Russell Wilson regularly. How do you feel 394 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 1: about the Broncos and Russell Wilson. It has happened. Um, 395 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: actually it has happened regularly because it happened to training. 396 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 1: It happened at the Super Bowl. Sierra gave me a hug. 397 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: I was like, well, friends, this is what this is. 398 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: Did you give you a hug and say hi? Colleen like, hey, no, 399 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: but I did get like a high sweetheart from someone 400 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: in the elevator near them, and I was just like sweating, 401 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: kind of like I am right now. So that was 402 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: that was interesting. But yeah, I was with the Broncos 403 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: for a little bit during training Camp two, but this 404 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: whole division, like I don't know. I keep talking myself 405 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: in and out of different teams because I think that 406 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs is the easiest way to go, and it 407 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: probably makes the most sense because they have this track record, 408 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: they've won so many years in a row. You can 409 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: never really trust the Chargers. They all ways charger it up. 410 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: The same thing with the Raiders, but now the Broncos 411 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: are so interesting with Russell Wilson there, so it is 412 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: really tough. I actually though, am in between the Chiefs 413 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: and the Chargers because I want to believe so hard 414 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: in the Chargers and they always let me down. But guys, 415 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: I think this might be their year. I'm gonna go 416 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. Yeah, justin Herbert's my m VP pick, 417 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: so I see them as a playoff team, and if 418 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: I pick a teams a playoff team, obviously they could 419 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: also win the division. Herbert is such a stud. We're 420 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: talking to Steve Wish of NFL Network last week on 421 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: our podcast and he's like, when you just have conversations 422 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: with coaches in front office, guys, they're all just completely 423 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: in love with Herbert and how special he is. And 424 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: we see it on the field too, and he's being 425 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: put in a situation to thrive with a really good offense. 426 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: You could see that that season happening for Herbert, and 427 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: then who knows what happens. They are the Chargers though, 428 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: they are the Chargers, and even if it happens, it's 429 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: sort of tree falling in the woods because we all 430 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles and like nobody will notice. Uh No. 431 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: I also think it's interesting. I don't I don't want 432 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: to take over your show, Gunzo, but do you think 433 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: the Police Chargers actually go let's say twelve and five 434 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: and they're playing in the a f C title game 435 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: against Hell the Bengals. Do you think l A is 436 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna catch fire with the Chargers or you think it's 437 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I think that building will still be if in that scenario, 438 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: that building will still be predominantly Bengals fans. I mean, 439 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: you know what, Let's bring in producer Isaac Lee. Resident 440 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: Angelino knows the city as well as anybody who's also 441 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: he's a Clippers fan. Uh, he knows how this goes. Isaac. 442 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: In this scenario that Dan has just painted, do people 443 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: all of a sudden start caring about the Chargers in 444 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: l A. I don't think so, because people barely cared 445 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: about the Rams winning the Super Bowl earlier this year. Um. 446 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: I was living in Portland at the time, and I 447 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: just remember like texting a bunch of my buddies who 448 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: are who are down here in Los Angeles and being like, hey, 449 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: you know Rams and the Super Bowl? You guys doing 450 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: anything fun? They were like, no, man, We're just gonna 451 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: go to bed. Yeah, like football. Football is like a 452 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: third rate sport in Los Angeles. Yet to understand, Uh, 453 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: it's basketball. We actually, you know what DoD Argers is 454 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: its own sport, and then it's Lakers. And then there's 455 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: like a big drop off to football, which is you know, 456 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: odd because everywhere else football is king but here. Yeah, 457 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: and and there's a huge drop off between the Rams 458 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: and the Charges. I mean, you guys know you work 459 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: in that building or adjacent to it. The Rams draw 460 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: pretty good crowd. The Chargers are just a venue for 461 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: people to hey, oh they're playing the Chargers this year, 462 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: let's fly out to Los Angeles and we'll get a 463 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: cheap ticket and see a road game. It feels like 464 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: the Rams own that building and that they just let 465 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 1: the Chargers play there. Yeah, literally and figuratively is what 466 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: it is. Um, go ahead. No, I had nothing else 467 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: to add. Anything else said. They can sound like I'm 468 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: being a homer for the company, but like we went 469 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: to Rams camp this summer and the place was packed 470 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: with thousands of fans. They're like, there's definitely a strong 471 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: vibe with that team, the Chargers. Well, seeing they're actually there. 472 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: Um building a new facility in Elsa Gundo right near 473 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium. It's gonna take some time for them to 474 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: build roots here because obviously that was a San Diego 475 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: team and starting from scratch, especially like Isaac was saying, 476 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: in this market the way it's kind of unique, it 477 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: will take time. Winning will help, though, winning always helps. 478 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you brought up the Rams like a 479 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: professional host. It's a wonderful transition. We'll go to the 480 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: NFC West defending Super Bowl champion Ellie Rams. I know 481 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: that Colleen is concerned about Stafford's elbow. We've got the 482 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, San Francisco forty Niners and the Seattle Seahawks 483 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: shot to J j R. Sega Whiteside, who was jettison 484 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: uh to the team that also took DK Metcalf. We'll 485 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: discuss that later. Uh. I assume we like the Rams here, 486 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: but Colleen, you had mentioned the forty Niners maybe being 487 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: interesting to you. I do think that the forty Niners 488 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: are going to be a risky team and that they 489 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: could potentially finish ahead of the Rams depending on how 490 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: bad Stafford's elbow is. Because we don't really know, we 491 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: have no idea at this point, like we haven't seen 492 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: him play. We don't know if this is a serious situation. 493 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: I think he was asked about it today at a 494 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: press conference Matthew Stafford, and he had this like long, weird, 495 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: awkward pause when he was asked how he was feeling 496 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: and how the elbow was, and then he was like, yeah, 497 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: it's fine, I'm fine, everything's great, and it's just to 498 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: me feels like it might be a little bit more 499 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: of an issue than the team and he are leading 500 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: onto even though yes, he played all last year with it. 501 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: This is an issue that the team knew about when 502 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: they traded for him. But at a certain point, like 503 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: as you get older and you have these lingering injuries, 504 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: they become a problem. He's thirty four. Uh, it was 505 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 1: an injury to the elbow he suffered last season, played 506 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: through it last season, played great in the playoffs, won 507 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, got an injection in the elbow this 508 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: spring or I don't know about the timeline when, but 509 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: after this Super Bowl was carefully managed through the summer, 510 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: the Rams probably the hesitations because the Rams have been 511 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: very careful about how they've managed the message around what 512 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the elbow situation is. But the regular season One of 513 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: the many reasons I'm just so thankful that real football 514 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: is about to start is the team can't control certain 515 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: things anymore once you're out on the field. And on 516 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: Thursday night against the Bills, he has to throw forty 517 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: five passes. How is that going to feel? And he 518 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: takes a couple of shots helmet to the arm or whatever, 519 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: he goes down awkwardly. We'll have a better idea of 520 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: where he's at physically after the first couple of weeks 521 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: and maybe even after one game. Colleen, you had mentioned 522 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,719 Speaker 1: the forty niners. How do we feel about I mean, 523 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy j still exists, But how do we feel about 524 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Trey Lance? Because there's been so much hype and I'm excited, 525 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: as Dan said, to see real football and see whether 526 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: or not this kid can do it? But how do 527 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: we feel about his prospects and that team's prospects. I 528 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: think it's almost more how do we feel about Kyle Shanahan? 529 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: Because Kyle Shanahan's gonna simplify everything for Trey Lance to 530 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: make sure that he does look good. And Kyle Shanahan 531 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: loves a run game, and he loves leaning on his defense, 532 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: and those are two things that are still strong with 533 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: that team. So as long as those things are good 534 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: and Trey Lance can just keep it together and and 535 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: keep things simple and keep things moving and not make mistakes, 536 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: then he'll be able to get into a rhythm and 537 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: get better as the season goes on. And I think 538 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: that's when they could be really dangerous. Mm hmm. This 539 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: is a situations, the naughty situation, as I say on 540 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: a t N because I think that the surprising revelation 541 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: that Jimmy g wouldn't be going anywhere this year, it 542 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: was good news for the Niners. I think good news 543 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: for the fans who have a safety net Trey Lance. 544 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, not only do you have this guy in 545 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: the building that's been to a super Bowl for this team, 546 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: that's had success for this team. All we ever hear 547 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: from the forts, even though people study the game and 548 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: analytics and just watch closely, say well, Garoppolo struggled for 549 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: long stretches of time. He was very ineffective through the 550 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: playoffs last year. But at the same time, that team 551 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: loves him like the locker room really likes him as 552 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: a person and as a quote unquote leader and a 553 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: quote unquote winner. So Lance has that guy right behind him. 554 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: What happens if they lose three or five to start 555 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: the season. Where's Kyle Shanahan gonna How much rope does 556 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: Lance have? It's it's kind of a fascinating subplot for 557 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: us on the outside, But for a kid like Lands, 558 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure. Although 559 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm not in that locker room and I'm not that kid, 560 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to this. Yeah. Fun, Well, I 561 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: have a level of empathy that you just can't approach. 562 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: I think it's the Rams. Which way are you guys going, 563 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, ultimately there ams too? Yeah, I got it. 564 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: Nobody's in on the Cardinals right, No, No, I can't. 565 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray got his video games taken away. He has to, 566 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you know. I think it's and that was the craziest 567 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: story of the summer in the NFL, that whole contract provision. 568 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: I just you look at the roster and with new 569 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Copkins out for six games with a p D band 570 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: and he's on the wrong side of thirty. So who 571 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: knows what we see when he comes back. Um, I 572 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: don't know if they've set him up very well Kyler 573 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: for success when you look at his surrounding talent, and 574 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: then nobody knows if Cliff Kingsbury really is a guy 575 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: that could thrive at this level yet it hasn't really 576 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: been proven. So we're gonna learn a lot about Kyler 577 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: and the Cardinals very quickly. I think technical difficulties, all right. 578 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: So we were about to talk about the NFC South 579 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: and what a disaster it is, but this recording turned 580 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: into an even bigger disaster than that division. Dan explained 581 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: to people who are listening, what's happening right now. I've 582 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: got a tough situation here on the remote set up. 583 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: I blinked and John and Colleen were gone, and when 584 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: they finally returned, it's a grainy video of them sitting 585 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: next to each other. And now they don't have real microphones, 586 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: there's a there's a headset there sharing. So I just 587 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: think we're heading towards some of the greatest broadcasting ever 588 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: in the twenty one century. That's just my prediction. How 589 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna go. There's there's no other way around it. 590 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: This is a exactly what's happening. UM, welcome to our 591 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: work from home set up. Our work from home setup 592 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: has failed us much the same way that our air 593 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: conditioning has failed. This we're gonna soldier on because we're 594 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: professional broadcasters. NFC South Atlanta Falcons, Marcus Mariotta, No Calvin 595 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Ridley because he gambled Carolina Panthers. I want to discuss 596 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, the New Orleans Saints, no Sean Payton, and 597 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: then we get to Tampa Town, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers 598 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady's very angular face. Uh, this is a 599 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: foregone conclusion, is that the Buccaneers? What do you think? 600 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a bucks. But I feel like too 601 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: that the Saints. I don't think they're going to be good, 602 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: but I don't think they're going to be as bad 603 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 1: as some people say they're going to be because Jamis 604 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: Winston just I feel like, takes a lot of cheap 605 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: shots and he was actually pretty good before we got 606 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: hurt last year. And then you add in Chris A Lave, 607 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: the wide receiver who's gonna be a rookie that's really good. 608 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Dan is shaking his head. No, he's not buying it up. 609 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: Are we talking about Jamis Winston on the field, the 610 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: guy that became the first guy to be a thirty 611 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: thirty guy with thirty interceptions off the field, all his 612 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: various misdeeds, every shot has been well earned for Jameis 613 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: Winston as a pro. But you know what, what you're 614 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: saying makes sense. There are a lot of people, a 615 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: lot of people that know things, that follow the league closely, 616 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: that think the Saints have a real chance to beat 617 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: out the Bucks. I'm not one of them, but I 618 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: could see them being a playoff team because the defense 619 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: is excellent front to back. It is about if you 620 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: buy into the offensive line without Toronto Armstead, Winston staying 621 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: healthy and not destroying the team with turnovers, and then 622 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas returning and being Michael Thomas. And then you 623 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: have Chris Olavy is a really interesting rookie wide receiver, 624 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: and then Kamara, Alvin Kamara, who's a when he's right, 625 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: when he's healthy, when the offense is efficient, he's one 626 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: of the top five running backs in the league. So 627 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: it's it's there. It just feels like a lot of 628 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: puzzle pieces have to lock in, and usually those are 629 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: the teams that it doesn't happen for when the season 630 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: actually starts. Yeah, it's gonna be the box that take 631 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: the division like, it's gonna be Tom Brady. He's going 632 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: to do his thing again. They have such a good 633 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: team and Todd Bowles he's finally gonna get some like 634 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: great credit for being a head coach because he's set up. 635 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: I remember when I talked to him this summer saying like, 636 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: when you were the head coach of the Jets, did 637 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: you ever think in a zillion years that you would 638 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: one day be the head coach of Tom Brady? And 639 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: he kind of laughed for a second and he was like, Yeah, 640 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of funny how these things happen. Like I'm 641 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see this team and I think they're 642 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: gonna be really good once again. Briefly, before we move on, 643 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: I want to discuss the drama in Carolina with Baker Mayfield, 644 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: who said that he wasn't thinking about his former team. 645 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't have anything to do with this former team, 646 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's got merchandise specifically 647 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: aimed at his former team. How do we think that's 648 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna go? Well, Bakers a lot gonna be embarrassing if 649 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't. Baker's a lot. He's just a lot to 650 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: deal with, and you're not gonna catch me defending the 651 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,719 Speaker 1: Browns and how they handled their quarterback room. But I 652 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: get why they were ready to move on it. Just 653 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: Baker just seems to be a dude that is out 654 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: for Baker in a lot of ways above other things. 655 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: And I think, can he being improven on Sam Donald? Yeah, 656 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: he can because the offensive line is better and Christian 657 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: McCaffrey's healthy. But at the same time, I think people 658 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: that are thinking he's gonna now be the guy that 659 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: Browns thought he was going to be, and he was 660 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: certainly at times effective in Cleveland, I'm not buying it. 661 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Donald and Baker this year. Alright. 662 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: Moving moving along to u NFC North Packers, Vikings, Bears, 663 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: and your hard knock Lions. It's not the hard knock Lions. 664 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: We've discussed of the other three of you, who do 665 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: we like Packers again, Packers, It's it's the Packers. For me, 666 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: I think that the Vikings are gonna be really good, 667 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: but I think it's a tough It's a tough thing 668 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: to ask Kevin O'Connell in his first year to make 669 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: the Vikings the division winners, especially with Aaron Rodgers still 670 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: there even if he doesn't have Davanta Adams, Like, it's 671 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: not going to be this swift downfall for Aaron Rodgers 672 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: and the Packers. Like I think that the Vikings will 673 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: give them a decent shot, and I think they could 674 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: be a wild card team if everything falls right. Like 675 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: I love the Darius Smith and Daniel Hunter on that 676 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: defense playing together, like that's gonna be their stuffs. But 677 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: we'll just have to see if Kirk Cousins can hold 678 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: up his end of things and how they're really able 679 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: to make this passing game evolve. Anybody who doesn't pick 680 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: the Packers in the NFC North is trying way too 681 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: hard and they should be viewed with suspicion. It's their division. 682 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: I think the Vikings can take a wild card spot. 683 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: I think the Lions could be fun, but they're still building, 684 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: and I think Justin Fields is in for a hard 685 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: time again in Chicago. Godspeed Justin Fields. All right. The 686 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: last division. I saved this one for last on purpose. 687 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: It's the NFC East, the Washington football team. I will 688 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: not call them the Commanders. That is an exceedingly stupid 689 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: and get ready to go on and you know, take 690 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: command it's such a dumb named they had. They had 691 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: the perfect, no frills name that they stumbled into by accident, 692 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: and in typical Washington franchise fashion, they decided to move 693 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,240 Speaker 1: on from it and pick I'm much so, I'm so bummed. 694 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: I thought you were going into a monologue defending the 695 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: initial name. I was like, all right, this is a 696 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: spicy podcast topic. John going In didn't see this coming. 697 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: I really like working at us I and prefer prefer 698 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: not to get fired. Also in the division the Giants, 699 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and the Philadelphia Eagles, Dan, Colleen and I 700 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: are going to momentarily recuse ourselves from this conversation. I 701 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: want you to start, you know, say whatever you want. 702 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: But it's really freaking me out as a Philadelphian how 703 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: many people are on the Eagles. It is on good. 704 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like it. It's not good. I 705 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: would not feel good about it. If I were an 706 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Eagles fan, I'd feel really good about the team. But 707 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: I feel like it would have been much better if 708 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: it was like last summer where people were with the Cowboys. 709 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: But the fact that everyone's bailed on the Cowboys, and 710 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: I think that's a little premature to totally count out 711 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: the defending division champions. The Eagles do have the best roster, 712 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: and they have really gotten better in different spots, and 713 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: they have set up a quarterback that has the opportunity 714 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: to kind of take the leap and and and take 715 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: command in Philadelphia. So they are the smart pick to 716 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 1: win the NFC East. But I think it's a little 717 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: bit to what you're saying. People are a little too 718 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: confident about the Eagles because that's still a projections. Some 719 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: things have to fall into place. And the Cowboys this 720 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: idea that the Cowboys should just be completely thought of 721 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: as an afterthought. They get to play the Commanders, sorry, 722 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: and the Giants four times, they have a chance to 723 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: split with some of the better teams in the league. 724 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: I think they could hang with other teams and be 725 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 1: a ten win team, and I think that's ultimately I 726 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: think it's gonna win this division around ten games. I 727 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: think it's it's not a coin flip. I think Eagles 728 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: are the pick, but the Cowboys aren't as far behind 729 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: as people seem to think. I think it was one 730 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: thing when the Cowboys on Michael Irvin, also of NFL Network, 731 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: was just gushing about the Philadelphia Eagles. But when it 732 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: really hit a crescendo, a fever pitch for me was 733 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: ESPNS Mina Comes, who was also a friend of Sports 734 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: Illustrating and all of us here on this program saying 735 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: that they have a top five roster, and I wanted 736 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: to throw my computer in the Pacific. And what I'm doing, 737 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: don't tell anybody that. Well, anytime a team from Philadelphia 738 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: is supposed to do good, they never do good. So 739 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: this is I wouldn't say stream team vibes with Vince Young, 740 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: but that is exactly what I was telling because that 741 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: actually wasn't a good you know, that was a roster 742 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: that made sense on paper, and then it became apparent 743 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: very quickly it wasn't gonna work. Howie Roseman has done 744 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: a really nice job building this roster out, but let's 745 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: not play the second parade and start building another statue 746 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: just yet. That's all. Are you taking the Eagles in 747 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: this division? I have the Eagles, And again my entire 748 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: life now refers back to the power rankings. I have 749 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles as my number four teen team in the league, 750 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: right just ahead of the Cowboys. So I see it 751 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: kind of as a coin flip. But if you if 752 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: you're like saying, pick the team to win the division, 753 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: I will go with Eagles, like ten and seven? All right, 754 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: I I like, normally i'd be excited about this, but 755 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not at all. I get it. I totally get it. 756 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up with some super Bowl predictions, because 757 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: between actually talking to you guys and then the technical 758 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: difficulties that we've had, we've been doing this podcast for 759 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: about three days. Uh So tell me who's who's playing 760 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: in the Big Game? Dan, this is it, this is 761 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: it for the Bills. It's happening. You know, the same 762 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: thing that you feel about the Eagles is what the 763 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: Bills fans in and Western New York feel about this situation. 764 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: They hate that everyone has them winning the super Bowl 765 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: or get into the super Bowl. But I just think 766 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: they have a great roster and a Hall of Fame 767 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: caliber quarterback just reaching his prime, and I think this 768 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: is the year they get over the hump. And it's 769 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: very hard for me to pick an NFC team, it's 770 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: so wide open, but I'll say I will say Bills 771 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: over Bucks. Passing of the torch, you know what, Okay, 772 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm I'm actually with you in the a f C. 773 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be the Bills as well. 774 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: I feel like they showed us that last year and 775 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: just you know, we're out out of time. But it's 776 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: gonna be the Bills this year. And I think, just 777 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: to just to make it a little crazy, I'm gonna 778 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: manifest this for the NFC. I wanna say, don't do it. 779 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say do it. No, you know I'm not 780 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: doing that. I'm not going there. I'm not gonna I'm 781 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: not that crazy. It's the forty niners and it's gonna 782 00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: be Jimmy g Did you say that the Bills ran 783 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: out of time? The problem for the Bills last year 784 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: was there was too much time. There's twelve seconds on 785 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 1: the clock against the Chief Tradabus. White's a big guy. 786 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: They need to get back in the lineup because they 787 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: don't lose that game without their star cornerback. If their 788 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: star cornerback was in the playoffs last year, he'll start 789 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: the season on the pub list. They'll have him right. 790 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a big piece for Buffalo too. Just 791 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: one little bit of insight there before a little bit 792 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: and now we have mercifully revamped postseason overtime rules, which 793 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: is wonderful, but this was great. Two guys watched them 794 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 1: on the NFL Network. Listen to them on the Around 795 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, catch the final episode of the Hard 796 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: Knocks pod, and be sure to check them out on 797 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: the forthcoming Power Ranking show. You can listen to that. 798 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: It's also streamable. These guys frankly on my on my 799 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: personal power rankings. They're very close. I'm gonna give a 800 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: slight edge to Colleen for domestic tranquility purposes edge. I 801 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: love you both, Dan and Colleen. Thank you for thus 802 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: Thank you just doing a podcast with the jay Z 803 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: and Beyonce of sports media. That I mean, I pinched 804 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: myself which one's Beyonce? You better say, mate, you know what? 805 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: But you said you like it's Colleen better than me. 806 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: But actually that makes sense, John, you are the Beyonce. Alright, 807 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: there we go. You're the best body. Thanks Dan, alright, 808 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: bye bye. Sports Illustrated Weekly is a production of Sports 809 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: Illustrated and I Heeart Radio. 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And 818 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: if you've stuck around this long, we leave you with this. 819 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 1: Didn't we lose John? He's left the riverside. The hostess 820 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: quit on the show. Now I am hugging the Internet. Urban, 821 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 1: very urban area