1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: This will permanent outlaw the mutilation of miners. It will 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: outlaw the surgical procedures and experimental puberty blockers. It will 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: give Florida courts temporary jurisdiction to intervene in halt procedures 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: for out of state children. You have actually some states 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 2: in this country that want to be a haven for 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: these types of procedures and even welcome miners without their parents' consent. 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 3: Into some of their jurisdiction. 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: We're obviously doing the opposite here, and I think this 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: provision is important. This is going to create a way 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: to recover damages for injury or death resulting from mutilating 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: surgeries or these experimental puberty blockers that are given to 14 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: a miner. 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: No gender mutilation surgery or or hormone blocking drugs given 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: to miners in the state of Florida. That was yesterday 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: in Tampa, Florida. Rondasant is signing the bill that are 18 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: talking about the signing of this bill that permanently prohibits 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: those practices. So he has effectively finished the legislative session here. 20 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: He's at the very end of it, and got a 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,919 Speaker 3: whole range of things done. You know, in July, Clay 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: Us Floridians be able to have constitutional carry that kicks in. 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: So you now can carry constitution or you have carry 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 3: rights as long as a concealed cary rights as long 25 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: as you are not a prohibited possessor. And yeah, there's 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 3: a lot that he got done. And this is what 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: we expected to happen right before an official announcement. So 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: here we are. No surprise, folks. Every line is lit. 29 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: People have a lot of feelings about the reality of 30 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: a real primary. The primary has not been something that 31 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: anybody has been too focused in on because it's just 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 3: been the Trump Show and maybe it will continue to be, 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: but it could change very rapidly next week. Let's see 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: what do we want to go to first? And you 35 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: want to do? Here we go. We've got Patty in Dubuque, Iowa. 36 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: What's going on? Patty? 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: Hi, guys, great show, love, Thank you for me every day. 38 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: Thank you. 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 4: I have been going back and forth between Florida and Iowa. 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: We live in both places for twenty years. So I 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: got to tell you voted for Trump in twenty sixteen. 42 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: In twenty twenty. But anyone who doesn't like DeSantis needs 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 4: their head examined. He is awesome and I would hate 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: to lose him as our governor. If the rest of 45 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: the country could see him, they would love him. But 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: I hate to see him trash in this. And you know, 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 4: when you've got a wide open field and some decent candidates, 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: I just Trump is Trump. Trump will always be Trump, 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 4: and I hate to see him trash a good guy 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: like DeSantis. I really wish, honestly that DeSantis would not 51 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: jump in, because if he gets destroyed by Trump, he 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: comes in tarnished in the next election. 53 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 5: Okay, so let's pretend, Patty, you're in Iowa, which is 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 5: going to be I think a battle ground of all 55 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 5: battlegrounds between DeSantis and Trump if the primary were tomorrow. Right, 56 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 5: Let's pretend the primary was tomorrow. You know DeSantis, well, 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 5: you voted for Trump. Who would you vote for in 58 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: the Iowa caucus? Who would you be lining up to 59 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 5: support Trump or DeSantis? 60 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: Probably DeSantis, but that would be premised on if he 61 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: could show the rest of the country really who he 62 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 4: is and not under Trump's shadow. Yeah, you know, really, 63 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: the ideal ticket would be the two of them. I 64 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: don't think that will happen, and I know both of 65 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 4: them coming from Florida is a problem. 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not even that there's there I can 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 3: tell you, Patty, there's no chance that Ron DeSantis would 68 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 3: want to be Donald Trump's VP. I can't get I 69 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: I just can't imagine. I think there's there's unfortunately no 70 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: way those two. You know, sometimes you know you can't 71 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: have two alpha dogs in the same ring and expect 72 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: them to be working together. It doesn't always work, and 73 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: I think that that would be the case with them. 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for calling in from Dubuque, Iowa. Appreciate hearing 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 3: from you. Kimmy in Suffolk, Virginia has some thoughts on 76 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: Glenn Youngkin. What's going on? 77 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 6: Kimmy Younkin one thousand percent over. I literally fangirled when 78 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 6: I heard the ad. I didn't think he was going 79 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 6: to run, But I will tell you I've never had 80 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 6: a better candidate I've wanted to vote for, not against 81 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 6: the other opponent, than Youngkin. I cried, we want no joke. 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 6: I've met him before. He's a nice man. He's honest, 83 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: he's real, he listens, he's clean in that he has 84 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 6: no massive baggage. He doesn't run his mouth. He's a 85 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 6: gentleman but gets the work done. He appeals to everybody. 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 6: He appeals to soccer moms, he appeals to two independence. 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 6: He can win it, and he can do it with class. 88 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 6: He is our new Reagan one thousand percent. 89 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: All right, Kimmy, I love this and I feel like 90 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: Glenn Youngkin's wife might have just called in. Although, let 91 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 5: me be fair, Glenn, I don't know that Glenn Youngkin's 92 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 5: wife would be that effusive in praise. My wife would 93 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 5: certainly not praise me that well if she called into 94 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 5: the show. But Kenny, do you think that Glenn Youngkin 95 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: could win Virginia as a presidential candidate or as a 96 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: vice presidential candidate. That's the question that the Buck and 97 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 5: I are talking about, because that is the move that 98 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: would totally change the calculus. Right because Biden won Virginia 99 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 5: by ten. If Glenn Youngkin could win Virginia, Republicans would 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 5: win either as the president or the vice president. Republicans 101 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 5: would win in twenty twenty four, do you think he's 102 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 5: got that next level caliber of talent and would running 103 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 5: on a national level hurt him in Virginia, for instance, 104 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 5: how do you see that play out? 105 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 6: I don't. I think he would be a fantastic front 106 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 6: runner as presidential candidate, not VP, because he's got the 107 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 6: leadership qualities to be able to pull that off. And again, 108 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 6: he doesn't have any baggage. He hasn't been running his mouth, 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 6: so he doesn't have any sound bites that are going 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 6: to come back to haunt him like DeSantis would. And 111 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 6: if Defantis gets the nod or Trump gets the nod, 112 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 6: then Glenn would not be a good VP because he 113 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 6: wouldn't be able to shine like he does. So I 114 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 6: think he absolutely would be able to pull Virginia because 115 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 6: he appeals so much to again the soccer moms and 116 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 6: the independence and the people that just want normalcy. He 117 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 6: is a normal guy that knows how to get things done. 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 6: So I think he could easily win Virginia. But as 119 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 6: a VP candidate, if that's where he is relegated, I 120 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 6: don't think he would run. It would be a waste 121 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: of his talent. 122 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: Kemmy, we really appreciate we weren't even we didn't even 123 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: really put out a call for young kids supporters that 124 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 3: we got one, and we appreciate that that's great, and yeah, 125 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: you know it's hey Clay. You know, never never underestimate 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: a guy that is six six worth of one hundred 127 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 3: million dollars and that soccer moms think is handsome, you know. 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 7: What I mean? 129 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: This guy he could he could surprise them. 130 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 5: For me, I mean, Kimmy, I almost got the sense 131 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 5: that we needed to like put a fan on her 132 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 5: over over how hot and bothered she was. We're talking 133 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 5: about but sir, what she's saying, Look, I'm not. And 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: we're just gonna talk through all these different candidates and 135 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 5: all of their strengths and all their weaknesses. So look, 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 5: do I still think Donald Trump's going to be the nominee? 137 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 8: Yes? 138 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: Do I think that Glenn Youngkins has a realistic chance 139 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: of beating him? Probably not. But that's what a primary's for, right, 140 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: We got to see. And I just think it's interesting 141 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: to play it out because one thing that might come 142 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 3: up in the primary is Trump has to show the 143 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 3: Republican voters, the Republican base that he would definitely win 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: an Arizona and Georgia and and have a better ground 145 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,679 Speaker 3: game in Pennsylvania this time, because you look at somebody 146 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: like Youngkin and I think I think he wins those 147 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: McCain Arizona voters, if you will, that stayed home in 148 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, or even went Democrat and stayed home 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. Look, it is so fast. 150 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: I think Trump is going to lose Iowa because and 151 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: this is a long range prediction six but that's not. 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 3: But I don't even think that's Do you think that's 153 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 3: that big a deal. I think he might not even 154 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: he might. He lost Iowa to Ted Cruz, That'll be 155 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: the narrative right away. I don't think he cares that much. 156 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think it would change because right now Trump's 157 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: campaign is in some way premised on the inevitability of 158 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 5: his victory, and if you lose Iowa, then it changes. 159 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 5: Remember it took forever to find out who actually won 160 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 5: Iowa in sixteen. 161 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: It was a weird. It was a little bit of 162 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: a weird deal. But I think that they I think 163 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: that the narrative of Trump is, you know, we lost 164 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: Iowa before, we might lose it again. Who cares if 165 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: he loses Iowa. I don't think Trump. I don't think. 166 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: Let me just put it this way, Trump is going 167 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 5: to be wildly strong in lots of states. Right my 168 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: home state of Tennessee. We're gonna talk to Daniel Cameron, 169 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: who just won Kentucky, which was endorsed to a large 170 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 5: degree by Trump that Daniel Cameron camp Pain to be 171 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: the next Republican governor. I think that Iowa and New 172 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: Hampshire are among the worst states that the Trump campaign 173 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: could have to start. 174 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: So, now here's what I would say. The point you're 175 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 3: making about Iowa, you add New Hampshire into the mix, 176 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: and now you've got a momentum shift and a perception shift. Right, 177 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: So I would if you're talking those two, I think 178 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 3: going to struggle to win both. So if DeSantis picks off, 179 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 3: let's just say those two, you've got real momentum shift, 180 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 3: and then it's this all hands on deck moment for 181 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: Trump world. Right. If he loses Iowa, that's obviously not good. 182 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 3: But I think they figure we can run the map 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: the way we did before. That would be my sense 184 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: of how his team is viewing it, because he's not 185 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: he's not strong right now based on the numbers in Iowa. 186 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 3: I know people in Tennessee listing may think that's crazy. 187 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: People in Texas may think that's crazy. But an Iowa, 188 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Trump's numbers aren't as good as he'd like them to be. 189 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 5: Iowa and New Hampshire, I think are both going to 190 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 5: be struggle states for Trump, And I just think that 191 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 5: the narrative changes quick based on how that could go. 192 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 3: We need some we gotta get some super Trumper action here, 193 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: all right. Eight hundred and two A two two eight 194 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 3: A two. We're just taking the calls as they come in. 195 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 3: But if you're angry and you think that today there 196 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: was too much for one sadday, they're just yell at Clay. 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 3: He'll relay it to me. He likes to get the 198 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: angry game. 199 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 5: By the way, I'm used to getting yelled at all 200 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 5: the time because of sports. 201 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: Buck. 202 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 5: I've told you Desantas Trump is going to be our 203 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 5: version of Auburn versus Alabama, of Ohio State versus Michigan. 204 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 5: Every single time you say one thing about one team, 205 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 5: the other side is like, oh my god, you hate 206 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 5: our side. 207 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: Look, no, I'm going. 208 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: To vote and work as hard for Trump or DeSantis 209 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 5: or Glenn Youngkin or U or Nikki Haley or Vivic 210 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 5: Ramaswami or whoever wins the nomination for Republicans I will 211 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 5: be out on the trail. 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Slash Buck Heard it on the shelf here. 244 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: More on the podcast Clay and Buck Podcast, Deep Dives. 245 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: More contents, more common sense. 246 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: Find the guys on the iHeart app. 247 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: Or wherever you get your podcasts. 248 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay travisbuck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of 249 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: you hanging out with us on this fantastic Thursday across 250 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 5: the country. Encourage you to go subscribe to the podcast. 251 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 5: You can search us out on virtually any social media 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: app across the entire Internet ecosystem. We are there, Clay 253 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 5: travisbuck Sexton, Go subscribe and join our army everywhere. We've 254 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 5: been talking about the big story out there, which is 255 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 5: Ron DeSantis prepared to announce his presidential campaign next week 256 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 5: write in advance of what would be the Memorial Day 257 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 5: holiday Memorial Day weekend. I would bet buck that he 258 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 5: would probably announce on maybe Monday or Tuesday to avoid 259 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 5: getting lost in the Memorial Day holiday shuffle. But we 260 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 5: will see that has set off a series of skirmishes 261 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 5: between Trump and Dessantis supporters, and also Glenn Youngkin has 262 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 5: canonvolved into the discussion, potentially letting it be known that 263 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 5: maybe he's going to enter this race after previously saying 264 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 5: that he would not. To what extent is that a 265 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 5: sign of Trump vulnerability? To what extent is that a 266 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: sign that maybe DeSantis has not locked down the number 267 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 5: two spot like many thought. There are a lot of 268 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 5: debates that can surround that, and many of you have 269 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 5: been weighing in. We'll continue to take your calls eight 270 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 5: hundred and two eight two to eight eight two, But 271 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: there are several other stories going on out there, Bucks, 272 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 5: as you break this down. We've got whistleblower hearings going 273 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 5: on with the FBI as the fallout from the Durham 274 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 5: report continues. We will be discussing that as well. And 275 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 5: I thought this was interesting, Buck, the internal collapse of CNN. 276 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 5: CNN is now passed by Newsmax recently to actually become 277 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: the fourth most watched news network out there. 278 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know if. 279 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: You saw this quote, but Christian Amanpur who is I 280 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 5: would say, probably the foremost version of what an elite 281 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 5: journalist would look like, Buck, if you were like just 282 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 5: kind of describing someone who would live in this sort 283 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: of elite journalism universe, even with the accent, even the 284 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 5: name and everything else they are going after Chris Licked 285 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: the head of CNN still for the Donald Trump town hall, 286 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 5: And I wanted to play this because wouldn't it be 287 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: a maze if CNN ends up the fallout of the 288 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 5: town hall is going to end up being more consequential 289 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 5: for CNN executives than it was for Donald Trump. 290 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: Here is cut ten. Listen to this. 291 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 9: I understand that the town hall a week ago was 292 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 9: for many an earthquake. Before I came here today, I 293 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 9: met with CNN CEO Chris Licked at our New York 294 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 9: headquarters and he said the same thing, that it was 295 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 9: an earthquake. My management believes they did the right thing, 296 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 9: a service to the American people. I still respectfully disagree 297 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 9: with allowing Donald Trump to appear in that particular format. 298 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: We know Trump and. 299 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 9: His tendencies everyone does. He just seizes the stage and 300 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 9: dominates no matter how much flak the moderator tries to aim. 301 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 9: For me, I would have dropped the mic at nasty person. 302 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: Buck. Okay, this is funny. So I think that I'm 303 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: in a weird position here because I've got to stand 304 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: up for Chris Licht on this one. I really do. 305 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 3: What is the alternative to all these CNN snowflakes? I 306 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: guess we don't use that term anymore. I don't know why. 307 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 3: But you know, for all these all the pearl clutching, 308 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: all the oh my gosh, we had Donald Trump on 309 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: our on our station, for give me a break, what 310 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: are they really going to do? And what you see 311 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: is this is the hangover of what CNN did do 312 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: its audience over the course of the Trump presidency, which 313 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 3: is just create this anti Trump silo of lunacy, all 314 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 3: most of it based on the Russia collusion stuff, although 315 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: there's a lot of other there are many other things 316 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: that they threw at Donald Trump as well, and now 317 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 3: they have to start to in order to be a 318 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 3: quote news network that is going to cover a presidential election. 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 3: Trump is no longer banned from Twitter, he is no 320 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: longer banned from Facebook. He is the leading Republican contender, 321 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 3: and they can hate him as much as they want, 322 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: but you can't consider yourself a news network if you 323 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 3: refuse to allow, in a two party system, the leading 324 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: candidate to even appear on your on your channel. Now, 325 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: I know they'd say, oh, but in this for what's 326 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 3: the format supposed to be. He's supposed to go in 327 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 3: there and have a bunch of live Biden voters shouted him. 328 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: I know that's what the Democrats would want, but that's 329 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 3: clearly lunacy and doesn't really serve any purpose. Joe Biden 330 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: would never subject No Democrat would subject themselves to that. Right, 331 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 3: You're not going to have somebody go on Fox from 332 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: the Democrat side in a room full of right wing 333 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: you know, Fox viewers and just get pummeled for an hour. 334 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 3: So what what? Alternately, I just think it's kind of funny, 335 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 3: you know, whether it's Anderson Cooper when he was like 336 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: I understand if you never watch us again, all this 337 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 3: hand ringing, how can they claim to be a news network, 338 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: which they claim. I know it's not reality, but they claim. 339 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: If you're not gonna have Trump on Clay, like, what 340 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 3: is the where does this go? 341 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 5: You know, It's such an interesting question because to me, 342 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: it ties in buck with the idea of platforming in general. 343 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 5: And I believe you're going to hear more and more 344 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 5: about this if Trump were to be the nominee. The 345 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 5: CNNs of the world, the MSNBC's of the world, they're 346 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 5: all going to take a step back and they are 347 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 5: going to say, we're not even going to cover Donald 348 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 5: Trump and to a large extent, his lies, because in 349 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: platforming him, we are elevating his popularity. But my perspective 350 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 5: on this would be, is there anyone out there who 351 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 5: doesn't have an opinion on Donald Trump at this point? 352 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I mean that, honestly, is there a single 353 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 5: potential voter who would be Yeah, you know, I just 354 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 5: I really can't make my mind up one way or 355 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 5: the other about Trump. I would submit to you that 356 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: that is almost nonexistent. And if that is true, then 357 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 5: to a large extent, what you're doing is just allowing 358 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 5: people to know what Trump believes, which is Buck. One 359 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 5: of the arguments that we've had that I think is 360 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: so fascinating and I haven't really heard a great answer. 361 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 5: Is this idea of taking Trump off of Twitter. To 362 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 5: your point, he can now come back. I think it 363 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 5: actually benefits Trump because I don't think Trump needs more 364 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 5: ways to reach his audience. And I think Twitter often 365 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 5: played to the worst version of Trump, which was I'm 366 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 5: just going to fire off some inflammatory tweet, and I 367 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 5: don't know that he gained substantially in terms of his support, 368 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 5: and I think it allowed him to be sometimes the 369 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 5: bull in the China shop, and instead of recognizing that 370 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 5: he was right in the end result, a lot of 371 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 5: times the things that he broke along the way got 372 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 5: the attention. 373 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: Not the end result. 374 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 5: And so I'm not sure that it benefits him, but 375 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 5: in general, and I made the same argument with our show, Buck. 376 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: Remember when they took down our interview with Donald Trump 377 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 5: from Bedminster on YouTube and they took down our interview 378 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 5: with Ran Paul because they didn't like what those guys 379 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: said to us. Democracy requires that you be able to 380 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: hear every opinion, ideally from the people that you're considering 381 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 5: voting for deciding that you don't believe a political candidate 382 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: should be able to be heard is actually a monster threat. 383 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 5: And that, to me is what CNN is angling towards 384 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 5: with the way the response to this Trump town hall 385 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 5: is coming. 386 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 3: Out democracy and yes, we're in a republic. Not to 387 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: get confused for anybody out there who wants the distinction, 388 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: to be very clear, but democracy requires free and open 389 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: exchange of ideas and understanding the positions of opposing parties 390 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: in order to function. Democrats, the Democrats of today require 391 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 3: ignorance of the position of their opponents, because if they 392 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: had to actually engage with the ideas that Republicans have 393 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: a lot of their belief system would feel a whole 394 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 3: lot more shaky. So this is what's happened is you 395 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: have Democrats have under in the Trump era, which I 396 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: think we are still in stretching back to twenty fifteen 397 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: until today, Democrats have been increasingly convinced that they don't 398 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 3: even have to engage with the fifty percent of the 399 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 3: country that would vote for Trump again and or still 400 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: support you know, is pleased with what he did as 401 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: president and would vote for him again. They want what 402 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 3: they got in twenty twenty, which was booted off the internet, 403 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 3: effectively kicked off the social media channels, can't even air 404 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 3: him on different you know, different networks or can't put 405 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: them on different shows. And you know, they want Trump 406 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 3: untouchable again, and that's not going to happen. 407 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: Now. 408 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 3: That's why I think not to transition into this whole 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: other discussion. But when they realize that the deplatforming won't work, 410 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: that's when the unfreedoming or incarceration discussion, I think gets 411 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 3: a whole lot more prominent with Democrats, as in, they 412 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: want to lock him up. If they can't shut him up, 413 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 3: they want to lock him up. Which you might have 414 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: seen Clay stories percolating again about Jack Smith and the documents, 415 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 3: and now they're saying National Archives is going to present 416 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: documents that show Trump knew what he was doing with 417 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: the documents was illegal. I'm just reporting what they are reporting. 418 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't even know what's in this, but maybe I've 419 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 3: thought all along that they're going to go for the 420 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 3: insurrection charge against Trump and the federal at the federal level. 421 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 3: Maybe it really does turn into the documents. As I've 422 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: said before, possession document cases This can be an is 423 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: or is not situation, and maybe they think that's their 424 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 3: stronger hand, or it could be a combination thereof. But 425 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: with each passing day, I'm more sure. Look at the 426 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 3: CNN audience, what do you think, Clay, the CNN audience 427 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: if pulled, if it came to not even Trump's already 428 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 3: being prosecuted in New York, we know, if it came 429 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: to actually locking up Donald Trump before he could become 430 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 3: president again, what percent of the CNN audience do you 431 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: think would say absolutely seventy five? 432 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 5: Yep, I was gonna say eighty. Yeah, that's what we're 433 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 5: dealing with. I think it's a monster percentage. And by 434 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: the way, at least that much on the MSNBC audience 435 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: as well. And I think that's why the ultimate question 436 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 5: surrounding Trump and all the legalities. So far, the charges 437 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 5: have strengthened Trump's hand in the Republican primary, while I 438 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 5: think lessening his appeal in the national electorate. There was 439 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 5: a study out buck that said, hey, what is the cost? 440 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: Because a lot of you out there are aware of 441 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 5: this conversation, they said, what did the argument that twenty 442 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 5: twenty was stolen due to the voting share that Republicans 443 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 5: got in the nation. And the argument is I read 444 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 5: a great kind of breakdown that it was a two 445 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 5: and a half or three point basically swing in terms 446 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 5: of favor of Democrats. Right, that arguing that twenty twenty 447 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 5: election was stolen cost you about two and a half 448 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 5: or three points, which in a. 449 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: Close race is seismic. 450 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 5: Right, It's the difference in Arizona, in Georgia, in all 451 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 5: these states that that was basically the host as it 452 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 5: were the tax Maybe you could even put that on 453 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 5: the electorate, is there's about two and a half or 454 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 5: three percent of the electorate that would otherwise vote Republican. 455 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: That is so troubled and frankly, you're infuriating to both 456 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 5: you and me that this would be the case. But 457 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: they get about a two and a half for three 458 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 5: point win when they focus on January sixth, when they 459 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: focus on twenty twenty. So if they get a two 460 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: and a half for three point win in the mid terms, 461 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 5: I would think it would be at least as much 462 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 5: buck in the general election in twenty twenty four, because 463 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 5: you know the playbook that they're going to run. Now, 464 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 5: maybe Trump could overcome it, but that is the deficit 465 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 5: that you're playing with by being focused on twenty twenty, 466 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 5: even if, to be fair, you feel and I feel, 467 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: that the twenty twenty election was rigged right now to 468 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: what extent I think is a debate worth having. But 469 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 5: that is a win for Democrats, and I think they're 470 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 5: counting on that as it pertains to all these potential 471 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 5: election charges, that that will will actually crush Trump's chances 472 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: in the general election. 473 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: And I think for a lot of people out there, 474 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 3: maybe they'll start to change their they'll be willing to 475 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: open up the discussion more about how twenty twenty was rigged. 476 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 3: When Democrats admit that twenty sixteen was not rigged, that 477 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 3: Trump actually. 478 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: They're never going to do it, by the way, not 479 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 5: going to be held accountable for That's the difference. Republicans 480 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 5: continue to be held accountable for the arguments we make 481 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 5: about twenty twenty. Democrats got rewards for the lies they 482 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 5: told about twenty sixteen. 483 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 3: During Trump's time and office. And we could go on 484 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: this forever, and that's why we do a three hour 485 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 3: day show. During Trump's time in office, a majority of 486 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 3: Democrats believe that Russia had changed votes in voting machines. 487 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 3: That's now forgotten. But in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, Democrats 488 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 3: really buy a majority. Believe that just soever. And remember, oh, 489 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 3: they care so much about the sanctity of elections and 490 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: the truth. Sure they do, Sure they do. We also 491 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 3: care about safety on the roads. And when I come back, 492 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 3: I've got to tell Clay about something apparently a high 493 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 3: speed chase in New York City, straight out of a 494 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 3: Born Identity movie, and it involves two of Clay's absolute 495 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: favorites in the whole world. So we're gonna bring this, 496 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 3: this death defying tale to you. And also, Clay, we've 497 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: got to discuss the Adidas campaign putting men in women's 498 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: bathing suits. Now, this is where we are, folks, Adidas 499 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: Global Company that they're not backing off it. We're gonna 500 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 3: have to talk about it. We'll get to that in 501 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 3: just a few minutes. 502 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 8: Here. 503 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: I got to speak out there for a second to 504 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 3: my fellow gun owners. You know, you want to keep 505 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: your skills sharp. You want to be getting better all 506 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: the time, right, it's part of the fun. It's also 507 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: important you're going to really make sure that you are 508 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: getting the fullest out of your Second Amendment rights. 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The Mantis X is a must have 527 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: for every gun owner. Go to mantisx dot com. That's 528 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 3: m A and tisx dot com. 529 00:27:55,880 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: Sleeve Travis and buck Sexton on the front lines of Truth. 530 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all 531 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,479 Speaker 5: of you hanging out with us. We're going to get 532 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 5: to some of your calls, by the way, before we 533 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: finished the second hour here scheduled to be joined by 534 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 5: Daniel Cameron, the Attorney General of Kentucky, who is now 535 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 5: the nominee for the Republican Party to take on Governor Bashir, 536 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 5: the Democrat governor in the state of Kentucky. We'll discuss 537 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 5: that upcoming campaign with him November. Obviously, not a ton 538 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 5: of elections that are going on, the Kentucky Governor's race 539 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: will be one of those that stands out as a 540 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 5: very significant arbiter on what we may be expecting going forward. 541 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 5: But Buck, I wanted to play some of this for you. 542 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 5: Obviously you've got a CIA background, but the FBI in particular, 543 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 5: or I guess the CIA two over the fifty one 544 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: intelligence agents who signed, but in particular the FBI in 545 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 5: the wake of the Durham Report has been under siege 546 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 5: and Jim Jordan wanted everybody out there who was testifying 547 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 5: to know that you will be targeted. Democrat are going 548 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 5: to come after you if you decide to speak out 549 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 5: and tell the truth. Let's listen to cut one our friend, 550 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: Democrat Congressman from Ohio, Jim Jordan, laying it out. 551 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 7: Three of those brave whistle blowers and a lawyer who 552 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 7: represents them will tell us their story. They will tell 553 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 7: us what happened, what they saw, and then what happened 554 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 7: to them because they were courageous enough to report it 555 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 7: to Congress. I just want to tell you, guys, get ready, 556 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 7: get ready, because these guys are gonna come after you. 557 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: You know they are. 558 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 7: Last yearing we had we had two journalists Democrats, two 559 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 7: Democrat journalists set right where you guys did, and these 560 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 7: guys tried to get them to divulge their sources. Someone 561 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 7: needs to tell them how the First Amendment works. And 562 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 7: while mister Tayabe, one of those award winning journalists setting 563 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 7: right where you're setting, was testifying, guess what else was happening. 564 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 7: The irs was knocking on his door. So get ready. 565 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 3: You have never seen clay bureaucracy move with the speed 566 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: and ferocity it does as when there's someone from the 567 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: inside who's trying to go to Congress and say something 568 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 3: fouls happening where I work. True with this FBI, it 569 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: is true at the CIA, and we have all these 570 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: people that well, we tell people that they have whistleblower protections, 571 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 3: but hmmm, not so much, because what ends up happening 572 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 3: is the agencies involved will, sure, you can go testify 573 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: before Congress, but they'll remember and six months later or 574 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: eighteen months later or whatever, you know, then they decide 575 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 3: they're going to go through your time in attendance reports. 576 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 3: Then they decide, hey, did you have any unauthorized contact 577 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 3: with a journalist at a cocktail party? Then they decide 578 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 3: to polygraph you or look at whether they're going to 579 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 3: pull your clearance. They act like internally the Stazi of 580 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: East Germany when it comes to any threat to the 581 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 3: federal bureaucrats purview. And you have to also understand that 582 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: the Democrat donation from these places show you what's happened. 583 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: They are not entirely but largely now party organs, and 584 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 3: that's reflected in what we saw with Komey and McCabe 585 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: and all these guys who went after Trump. So I'm 586 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: hopeful that this information will get out there about the 587 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 3: whistleblowers and we'll at least get it on the record. 588 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: But I think it goes to show you that anyone 589 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 3: who thinks that these places can wash their own laundry 590 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 3: doesn't know how they actually function and also how corrupted 591 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 3: they've become internally, not just as a function of leadership, 592 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: but as a function of culture. And I know this 593 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 3: from people who have recently left CIA who talked to 594 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: me about this. I know people still inside who tell 595 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 3: me what's going on. And same thing with the FBI, 596 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: and not as plugged in there, but similar stories. I 597 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 3: know some FBI agents, So I think that people should 598 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 3: know this. But it's a long term problem we're trying 599 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: to fix here, and you need someone, as I was saying, 600 00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 3: I was it yesterday, you need somebody who understands how 601 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 3: these places function in order to clean them up. Because 602 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: we can't even abolish the TSA. We're going to abolish 603 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: the FBI. And it's nice, it's a nice SoundBite. I'm 604 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 3: with it, but you know, fool me once, can't get 605 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: fooled again. I remember when people were telling me they're 606 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: going to bolish the IRS a few years ago. That 607 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 3: didn't happen. 608 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, And also I think we had a great call 609 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 5: if you remember from a twenty seven year FBI veteran 610 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 5: down in Florida earlier this week, it's important to note 611 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 5: that you can and he said, ninety percent of FBI 612 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 5: agents are good dudes and gals just trying to catch 613 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 5: bad guys. But at the top of the FBI, I 614 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 5: don't think there's any doubt at all that the head 615 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: of the FBI is rotten and has become a very 616 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 5: political based organization. And let's listen to this. By the way, 617 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 5: Garrett O'Boyle, he says, bad guys are running parts of 618 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,719 Speaker 5: the government. This is an FBI whistleblower. This is what 619 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 5: he testified to listen to cut too. 620 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 10: He's starting to defend this country from enemies, both foreign 621 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 10: and domestic, even if that means sacrificing my life. However, 622 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 10: did not include sacrificing the hopes, dreams, and livelihood of 623 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 10: my family. In weaponized fashion. The FBI allowed me to 624 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 10: accept orders to a new position halfway across the country. 625 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 10: They allowed us to sell my family's home. They ordered 626 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 10: me to report to the new unit when our youngest 627 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 10: daughter was two weeks old. Then on my first day 628 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 10: on the new assignment, they suspended me, rendering my family homeless. 629 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 10: They refused to release our goods, including our clothes. For weeks, 630 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 10: all I wanted to do was serve my country by 631 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 10: stopping bad guys and protecting the innocent. To my chagrin, 632 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 10: bad guys have begun running parts of the government, making 633 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 10: it difficult to continue to serve this nation and protect 634 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 10: the innocent. 635 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 5: This is where we are, Buck, and I mean, that's 636 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 5: difficult to hear that testimony. But I hope that we've 637 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 5: been talking and we'll take some of these calls to 638 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 5: close out the hour. We've been talking Buck a great 639 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 5: deal about the Republican primary. I hope that the Republican 640 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 5: candidates who want to be the nominee in twenty twenty 641 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 5: four will discuss what will do to fix our FBI, 642 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 5: to fix frankly, our military. The leadership of the military, 643 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 5: the FBI, and the CIA has got to change in 644 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 5: order for the culture to truly be adjusted. 645 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: It's about leadership, culture, mission, and honestly, also having a 646 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 3: really clear framework of what's acceptable and unacceptable behavior, and 647 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: that goes to all those other issues as well. I 648 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: think it's worth everybody being reminded of the fact that 649 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: this isn't even some of these whistleblowers. You just heard 650 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: that guy and I'm here in this I'm going, yep, 651 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 3: that's what they do. You know they do in the NYPD, 652 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: and I know we got a lot of current and 653 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 3: former NYPD listen to the show. If they if you 654 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: get on the wrong side of your superiors, they give 655 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 3: you something called the highway therapy. Highway therapy is when 656 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 3: they figure out where you live and the precinct that 657 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 3: is the absolute furthest from that and assign you to 658 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 3: that precinct. That means now instead of your commute maybe 659 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: being twenty minutes or thirty minutes of the morning, I mean, 660 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 3: if you get sent out to far rockaway and you 661 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 3: live in you know, the North Bronx, you're timuding in 662 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 3: about an hour and a half to get to work 663 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 3: every day. 664 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 8: Right. 665 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 3: So there's a whole range of ways that they punish people. 666 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 3: On the whistleblowers that we're talking about here, some of 667 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 3: them this wasn't about Trump. I want everyone to understand 668 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 3: that this wasn't about Trump. Necessarily, some of it was. 669 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 3: But in some cases, these whistleblowers came forward because the 670 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 3: Biden DOJ was targeting parents who were concerned at school 671 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 3: board meetings and treating them in memos as though they 672 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 3: are a domestic terrorism threat. Oh, you showed up to 673 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 3: school because you know, little Bobby and little Sarah were 674 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: being masked up in the first grade after having their 675 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 3: school shut down for eighteen months. Maybe you're a domestic terrorist. 676 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 3: That's what Merrick Garland and his goons think of you. 677 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 3: So I think everyone has to understand that this isn't even, 678 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: This is way beyond just even the weapon is against Trump, 679 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 3: which has also been a very real thing. 680 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we talked about this too. When you send 681 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 5: the message that domestic extremism and white supremacy are the 682 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 5: biggest threats to our country, then you're gonna get all 683 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 5: of these people who want to elevate their job. They're 684 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 5: gonna go find those criminals. And the sad thing is 685 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 5: you can find just about every single one of you 686 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,399 Speaker 5: out there listening to. 687 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 3: Us right now. 688 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 5: If a dragnet was put on your life, they could 689 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 5: find something that you have done in your time, maybe 690 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 5: a tax return, Maybe it's something that was involved in 691 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 5: some sort of business that you were associated with. If 692 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 5: you get the full car wash treatment from a Federal 693 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 5: Agency and investigation. Fuck you know this, they can find 694 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 5: you having violated some law. 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That's LifeLock dot Com promo code Clay. 724 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: The Clay and Buck podcast deep dives with cool content, 725 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: surprise guests. Get it all on the iHeart Apple or 726 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 727 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 3: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now, 728 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 3: and we have with us the Kentucky Attorney General, Daniel Cameron, 729 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 3: and he just well he'll tell us a bit about it. 730 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 3: Just won his primary battle. Mister Attorney General, Thank you 731 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: for calling in. 732 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, thank you all for having me and obviously honored 733 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 8: to be the Republican nominee for governor here in Kentucky. 734 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 8: And again it's a delight to be on with you 735 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 8: all and to talk to your listeners. 736 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 3: So can we start with this one, sir, Attorney General. 737 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 3: I know you're now officially gonna be the guy squat 738 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 3: off against Bashir the governor, the Democrat governor of your 739 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: home state. For non Kentuckians, it's something of a shock 740 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 3: to hear that such a red state has a blue governor. 741 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 3: You know, a Democrat governor who was particularly awful on 742 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: COVID and and really went along with the Fauci machine. 743 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: And I'm sure there's a whole bunch of other things 744 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 3: you could tell us about too. So it's not like 745 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 3: he's some super moderate centrist right. So what has to 746 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,479 Speaker 3: happen here for you to win, because all the rest 747 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 3: of us in the other states are hope in Kentucky 748 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,959 Speaker 3: can finally get flipped red. 749 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, no, you're exactly right. Look, this governor shut 750 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 8: down schools for nearly two years and we've got learning 751 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 8: loss because of it. He has a commissioner at the 752 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 8: Department of Education here in Kentucky that told teachers if 753 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 8: they didn't buy into the gender ideology curriculum make its 754 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 8: way into our schools, that they should find another job. 755 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 8: He shut down churches, he shut down small businesses. He's 756 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 8: been inept when it's come to cleaning up debris in 757 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 8: eastern Kentucky where we had some pretty significant flooding. So 758 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 8: there are a whole host of things, including violent crime 759 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 8: that has skyrocketed over these last three years since he's 760 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 8: been in office. Workforce participation rate is low. We have 761 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 8: twenty seven thousand fewer jobs here in Kentucky since he 762 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 8: was sworn in. So there are a lot of things 763 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 8: that we are going to make sure that Kentuckians are 764 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 8: reminded of daily in this general election campaign. And of 765 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 8: course I was fortunate to win the primary with nearly 766 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 8: forty eight percent of the vote, and that was with 767 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 8: twelve people in the race. So we feel like we 768 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 8: are already on the road to uniting the party behind 769 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 8: this candidacy, and we are ready to turn Kentucky red 770 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 8: make sure that we have a conservative governor come the 771 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 8: end of this year, because it's so critical. Again, the 772 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 8: difference between Kentucky and Florida and South Dakota and a 773 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 8: whole host of states was the fact that we had 774 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 8: a Democrat governor who saw things more like Fauci and 775 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 8: saw things more like Newsom and California than he did 776 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 8: the other conservative southern governors in this country. So I'm 777 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 8: again hopeful that and confident that we will win in 778 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 8: November and turn the state around. 779 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 5: We got a monster audience all over the state of Kentucky, 780 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 5: as you know, mister Attorney General and hopefully soon Governor 781 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 5: Daniel Cameron. Where is the race is clearly one statewide? 782 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 3: Right? 783 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 5: We know that you need people coming out to support 784 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 5: you all over the place. But as you look at 785 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 5: the math and you kind of break down. But Sheer 786 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 5: won a close race four years ago. I agree with you. 787 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 5: He was a disaster on COVID. I lived just down 788 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 5: the I sixty five from you in Nashville, and the 789 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 5: difference between Tennessee and Kentucky was seismic based on having 790 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 5: a Republican governor versus a Democrat governor. I saw the 791 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 5: difference in the treatment of the two states. Where do 792 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 5: you need to really win big to get back at Bashir? 793 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 5: What does the math look like and how do you 794 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 5: put together that coalition to take back the state of Kentucky. 795 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 8: Yeah, Clay, that's a great question. Look, what happened in 796 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 8: nineteen is that our former governor actually lost some counties 797 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 8: that you know, when I ran for Attorney General in 798 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,160 Speaker 8: nineteen I was on that statewide ticket and I won 799 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 8: counties that our former governor did not win. So Governor 800 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 8: Bevan lost Warren County, he lost Madison County, he lost 801 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 8: Scott County, lost a couple of northern Kentucky counties that 802 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 8: the rest of the Republicans on the state wide ticket 803 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 8: did not lose. And so we're going to focus on those. 804 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:52,440 Speaker 8: But honestly, this isn't one hundred and twenty county race. 805 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 8: And what I mean by that is there are a 806 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 8: lot of folks that in national races here in Kentucky 807 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 8: vote for the Republican because they cannot stand the disastrous 808 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 8: policies of the far left Democrats and the Biden administration. 809 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 8: And we need to make sure that people understand that 810 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 8: if you don't like those policies, you certainly don't like 811 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 8: a governor. And you all focused on this. Don't like 812 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 8: a governor who decoyed legislation that would have protected women's 813 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,200 Speaker 8: sports from biological males. You shouldn't like a governor who 814 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 8: has a commissioner at the Kentucky Department of Education who 815 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 8: again says gender ideology curriculum should come before our hardworking 816 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 8: teachers that might have reservations about that curriculum. And you 817 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 8: certainly shouldn't want a governor and certainly shouldn't like a 818 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 8: governor who has sat idly by while the violent crime 819 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 8: has risen exponentially in our largest cities. Again, this is 820 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 8: a governor who oftentimes will claim things that he shouldn't 821 00:43:55,680 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 8: take credit for. It's sometimes like someone who was born 822 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 8: on third base but thinks they hit a triple. That 823 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 8: is Andy Basheer. He takes credit for things that are 824 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,600 Speaker 8: not his, that is not his to take credit for. 825 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 8: And he's been disastrous on so many policies that, again 826 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 8: are inconsistent with the values the min women children of 827 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 8: one hundred and twenty counties. 828 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 3: We're speaking to Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron, who is 829 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 3: also the Republican nominee for the governor's race. But I 830 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,279 Speaker 3: want to speak to you in your attorney general capacity 831 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 3: for a second here if I can, Agie Cameron, tell 832 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 3: me about this lawsuit. Nineteen GOP attorneys general have signed it, 833 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 3: accusing JP Morgan of religious bias in the way that 834 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 3: it's doing its banking business. De banking of people for 835 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 3: ideological reasons is something everyone on the right needs to 836 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,720 Speaker 3: be far more aware of and concerned about. In my opinion, 837 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: I know businesses that have had their accounts effectively handed 838 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 3: back them and said sorry, we're not going to do 839 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: business with you anymore for engaging in totally you know, 840 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 3: whether it's firearms or totally legitimate business transactions. What's this 841 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 3: lawsuit about, what are you hoping to accomplish with it? 842 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 3: And what do people need to know? 843 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 8: Well, look, this is just as you said. I mean, 844 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 8: we want to make sure that if you are a 845 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 8: religiously affiliated organization or christ centered or faith focused or 846 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 8: faith centered organization, that you have the exact same opportunity 847 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 8: in the marketplace of ideas, and the exact same opportunity 848 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 8: to be able to trade within the market and do 849 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 8: business with banks and be able to use their platforms 850 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000 Speaker 8: to have folks invest in you. And what JP Morgan 851 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 8: and others have done is essentially said that we, because 852 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 8: of your belief set, don't want to have anything to 853 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 8: do with you, and that's just that's not right. And 854 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 8: so myself and other attorneys general across this country are 855 00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 8: pushing back, are fighting back against these companies that are 856 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 8: trying essentially to block or marginalize organizations and communities of faith. 857 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 8: And as an attorney general and someone who is in 858 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 8: a position to preserve the constitutional rights of our citizens 859 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,880 Speaker 8: and to make sure that they have an opportunity to 860 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,879 Speaker 8: speak freely and to have their voice heard, I can 861 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 8: think of no bigger and better responsibility for us or 862 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 8: issue to engage on. And so again, we see this 863 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 8: a lot across this country. Unfortunately, that big business oftentimes 864 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 8: tries to squelch the voice of folks that might have 865 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 8: a relationship with Christ or might have a viewpoint that 866 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,479 Speaker 8: perhaps doesn't fit with the ideology of that business. Those 867 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 8: folks should not be stymied or stopped from being able 868 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 8: to articulate their views. And organizations are faith centered organization 869 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 8: should not be able or should not be stopped from 870 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,720 Speaker 8: being engaged in the marketplace of ideas. 871 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 5: I want to give a couple of things for background 872 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 5: for people who may not know. You won almost fifty 873 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 5: eight percent of the vote in your race in twenty nineteen. 874 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 5: That was the race actually the Basher won, So a 875 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 5: lot of people voted for you who also voted for 876 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 5: Basher just based on that sheer math right for you 877 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 5: to have won comfortably while the Republican nominee loss. You Also, 878 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 5: you know, I'm a big college football guy. You played 879 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 5: college football at Louisville. I know you got your undergrad 880 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 5: and your JD. There what role is Louisville versus Kentucky 881 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 5: going to play on the campaign trail? 882 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: How do you think the Cardinals look and what gives you. 883 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 5: For people who don't know Kentucky is a sports mad 884 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 5: country in a sports mad state, I would think that 885 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 5: that really connects well with people outside of clearly your 886 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 5: legal background and your role as Attorney General. 887 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 8: Well, Clay, look, you know I for folks that know me, 888 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,279 Speaker 8: they'll know that play is a very generous term. For 889 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 8: my time at u of L. I spent a lot 890 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 8: of time on the bench rooting for other folks that 891 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,960 Speaker 8: were a lot more talent than I was. But it 892 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 8: was a good experience. And look, you know, obviously I 893 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,879 Speaker 8: think U of L has a great opportunity. They brought 894 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 8: Jeff Braun Braun back who when I was at U 895 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 8: of L, he was the quarterbacks coach and Brian Brown 896 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 8: was the quarterback and so a lot of those folks 897 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,040 Speaker 8: are coming back to the program. So there's a lot 898 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 8: of great energy there and we'll see how that all 899 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 8: plays out in this season. But you know, look, I 900 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 8: as I go across Kentucky, folks have their allegiances and 901 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,760 Speaker 8: they like U of L sports or they like UK sports. 902 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 8: But what I want everybody to be unified on is 903 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 8: beating Andy Basheer in the fall. Because again, if we 904 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,960 Speaker 8: want strong leadership that is going to reflect the values 905 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,839 Speaker 8: of our state but also push back against the craziness 906 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 8: that is coming out of water Washington and the Biden administration, 907 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 8: we need a Republican We need a conservative governor, and 908 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 8: that is what I'm hoping bring to the table. And 909 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 8: I'm hoping at the end of this effort in November, 910 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 8: Kentucky is going to be right alongside Tennessee and Alabama 911 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 8: and Arkansas and Florida and Georgia and all of these 912 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 8: states that are led by strong conservative governors. I hope 913 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 8: we're going to be able to say that about Kentucky 914 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,319 Speaker 8: as well. 915 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 5: You may not have seen the field a lot soon 916 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 5: to be Governor of Kentucky, Daniel Cameron, but I'm teaching 917 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 5: Buck about rivalries in sports, in particular for someone who 918 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 5: has never been to Kentucky, who hasn't been in the 919 00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 5: Bluegrass state. What is Louisville versus Kentucky like? Give Buck 920 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 5: a preview of what that experience would be like if 921 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 5: he were there for a game between the two. 922 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 8: Oh, it's rockets. I mean, whether it's football or basketball. 923 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 8: I mean, you know this is you know, these the 924 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 8: days where those when those games are played, that is 925 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 8: the focus and intention of attention of the entire state. 926 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,640 Speaker 8: And so yeah, they're they're big deals man. And well I'm. 927 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 3: Kind of saying, mister Attorney General, whoever has more listeners 928 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 3: to this show, that is the fan base that I 929 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: have to attach myself to. So we have to figure 930 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:16,719 Speaker 3: that out. 931 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 8: First, understood, Buck, understood. Man, Well, look, I encourage you man. 932 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 8: Hopefully when I'm governor, you know, you all will come 933 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 8: in and and want to Buck. You want to see 934 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 8: for yourself what you know Clay and I are talking about, 935 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 8: because it's it's a pretty amazing atmosphere. 936 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 3: For sure. I want to get good to me and 937 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,839 Speaker 3: congrats again on your win this week. 938 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 8: Sir. Hey, thank you guys. I appreciate you all so much, 939 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 8: and thank your listeners as well. 940 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 5: For sure, that is I believe the next governor of 941 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 5: this great state of Kentucky, Daniel Cameron, encourage everybody out there. 942 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 5: There's not a lot of races that are going to 943 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 5: be taking place this November. 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