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Speaker 1: As a guide and hunter, I've spent thousands of days

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Speaker 1: in the field. This show is about translating my hard

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Speaker 1: won experiences into tips and tactics they'll get you closer

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Speaker 1: to your ultimate goal success in the field. I'm Remy Warren.

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Speaker 1: This is cutting the Distance. Welcome back to the podcast, everybody.

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Speaker 1: I was looking today and it looks like we're actually

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Speaker 1: on podcast episode eighty six. That is, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of nuggets of hunting wisdom in there, and I think

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Speaker 1: just based on a lot of the podcast feedback that

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Speaker 1: I've got, you know, there's been a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that have found success by using the tactics in there,

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Speaker 1: and just like anything, you can take this knowledge and

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Speaker 1: be successful, but there's a little bit of it that's

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Speaker 1: on you. So when it comes to this week's podcast,

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Speaker 1: I'm basing it off of the idea of training and

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Speaker 1: when you think about hunting out West, one major factor

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Speaker 1: in success is really your physical preparedness. The ability to

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Speaker 1: hunt hard, day in and day out, go that extra mile,

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Speaker 1: pack out an animal where others might think it's too far,

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Speaker 1: and that just gives you an edge. One question I

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Speaker 1: get asked a lot is how to prepare for a

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Speaker 1: hunt in the mountains, especially from people that maybe don't

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Speaker 1: live in the mountains. While I'm not a personal trainer

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Speaker 1: or fitness expert by any stretch of the imagination, what

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Speaker 1: I am an expert in is carrying a heavy pack

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Speaker 1: around in steep country, packing out meat long distances, hiking

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, while there's no replacing training by doing,

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Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time this past year kind

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Speaker 1: of building out an actionable formula to help you get

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Speaker 1: ready to hit the mountains. But first I want to

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Speaker 1: share a story of a day where I got into

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Speaker 1: a lot of elk and put in a lot of miles.

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Speaker 1: Most of the time I've spent hunting and just being out,

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Speaker 1: either solo or on a hunting trip, I've always had

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Speaker 1: this mindset that nothing's too far. I just go where

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Speaker 1: I need to go now. I also haven't really had

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Speaker 1: to train for that because I just as a professional guide,

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Speaker 1: I'd spend most of my year, the majority of my

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Speaker 1: by doing that day in and day out, it just

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Speaker 1: spot whatever. Oh maybe I look across and other's elk

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Speaker 1: kind of entire realm of thinking shifted. Very early on.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever talked about how far do you go when

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Speaker 1: you know, nobody ever, I never heard any hunting articles

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Speaker 1: and I had a book on tape. I've listened to

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Speaker 1: But as I listened to that while I was going,

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Speaker 1: They were dragging boat ten miles, twenty miles, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what happened, but it's just like

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Speaker 1: I also break down a hunt, how does it normally start?

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Speaker 1: I think every time I leave the truck, I'm walking uphill.

430
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Speaker 1: I don't know how it happens. It seems like every

431
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Speaker 1: hunt you go on, you leave the truck walking uphill,

432
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Speaker 1: and you walk back to a truck uphill, um the

433
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 1: uphill both ways. Things is real. It's it means that

434
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: I leave hiking up. Somehow I dropped below the truck

435
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the day, and now I'm hiking

436
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Speaker 1: back up to the truck. That happens to me more

437
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 1: times than not. So we want to be trained for

438
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Speaker 1: that uphill hiking. So here's what we're gonna do. I'm

439
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 1: breaking this down stage one the day rock and we're

440
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Speaker 1: gonna call like a prescribed weight. I think that your

441
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 1: goal for this stage is going to be thirty pounds,

442
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Speaker 1: and then with that thirty pounds, what we want to

443
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Speaker 1: be able to do is our first our first intro

444
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Speaker 1: to it is gonna be fifteen minutes. And I think, well,

445
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: thirty pounds fifteen minutes, Okay, that's easier. Some people might

446
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: say that sounds hard. You can start out with lighter

447
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,879
Speaker 1: weight before you even move on to the next one.

448
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: You want to be able to do these in that

449
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 1: thirty pound range fairly easily. Um, And what we're gonna

450
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Speaker 1: do is we're gonna use fifteen minutes as kind of

451
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: like our first workout period. And what I like to

452
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: do is I like to start out saying you're on

453
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Speaker 1: a machine. Let's say you live somewhere flat. You're gonna

454
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Speaker 1: do this on a treadmill, or maybe you're gonna do

455
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: this in the hills, whatever. You just find something that

456
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 1: matches this. So, whether it's treadmill, whether it's a mountain,

457
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: whether it's a stair climber or running stairs, whatever, whatever

458
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Speaker 1: it is, find something that mimics these things that I'm

459
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Speaker 1: talking about, because what we're trying to do is we're

460
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Speaker 1: trying to build that muscle memory in a short amount

461
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,919
Speaker 1: of time the kind of will translate into taking on

462
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Speaker 1: the mountain over a longer period of time. So however

463
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: you can do this, you guys can figure that out. Now,

464
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Speaker 1: this first fifteen minute one is going to be putting

465
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Speaker 1: on that weighted pack. And what I want you to

466
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Speaker 1: just start out going uphill at a you know, you

467
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Speaker 1: can start out at maybe like a moderate pace. I

468
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: want it to be like kind of start getting your

469
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Speaker 1: body warmed up if you've got to do something else

470
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Speaker 1: to warm up first grade, and then just start walking

471
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Speaker 1: and start hiking it like a higher pace. Now, what

472
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Speaker 1: we're gonna do is we're gonna use speed and incline

473
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Speaker 1: to kind of mimic duration. So in a normal hike,

474
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Speaker 1: you know, you get tired, you can stop. What we

475
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Speaker 1: want to do is we want to build up this

476
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Speaker 1: muscle and the feeling of everything, but without stopping. So

477
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of fatigue things faster. So as you

478
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: start going, you're gonna started if you're on a trademill,

479
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Speaker 1: lets say it's got one to ten, maybe started at

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Speaker 1: two incline and just start kind of walking for a

481
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Speaker 1: couple of minutes to get your body going. Now you're

482
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Speaker 1: gonna start ramping it up. I want you to start

483
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: ramping up the speed to that point where it's like

484
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Speaker 1: you couldn't hold a conversation with me. You're you're kind

485
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Speaker 1: of at the speed where you're like, I'm not running,

486
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Speaker 1: but I'm definitely moving, And I want you to kind

487
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Speaker 1: of now pick that elevation up to maybe say it's

488
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Speaker 1: a treadmill, maybe let's hit it at fift so you're

489
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Speaker 1: using an incline with a good speed where you're like

490
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Speaker 1: you're just able to keep up. You know, you wouldn't

491
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Speaker 1: be able to hold a conversation with someone. You've got

492
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Speaker 1: that weighted pack on and you're moving. Now for the

493
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Speaker 1: next half, let's say we hit our seven and a

494
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Speaker 1: half minute point. Now we're gonna ramp it up. We're

495
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Speaker 1: gonna start kind of pushing everything into those muscles, and

496
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: we're gonna start the climb. If you're on a treadmill,

497
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Speaker 1: you're gonna hit that to the highest incline that it's got,

498
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna try to maintain that fast speed for

499
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: as long as you can. Okay, So you want to

500
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Speaker 1: be holding at that speed where it's like, okay, I'm

501
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna burn out. I would say now within three minutes

502
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: or so, you want to start feeling everything burning where

503
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Speaker 1: that pack is on your body. You want that to hurt.

504
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: We're just mimicking that fatigue that you're going to find

505
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Speaker 1: later in the day in a shorter amount of time,

506
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: because we're kind of increasing the intensity of everything. So

507
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: you can ramp up the speed on that treadmill or

508
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: whatever and just keep pushing. You want to, you want

509
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Speaker 1: to really feel it. And now you don't want to stop.

510
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Speaker 1: But if you have to slow the machine down, go

511
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Speaker 1: for it. You want to just keep moving. So where

512
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Speaker 1: you're like constantly at what you think is your max,

513
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you're like, oh man, I'm I can't go any harder.

514
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Speaker 1: But you're just like constantly keeping it at your max

515
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Speaker 1: at that incline, and you can just keep gradually dropping

516
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Speaker 1: that speed down, dropping that speed down, um, but not stopping,

517
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Speaker 1: even if it's a really slow pace. We want to

518
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Speaker 1: just go. We're just basing this off of time, not

519
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Speaker 1: a certain distance. So you've got your fifteen minutes of

520
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Speaker 1: that and then op rest whatever. Now I would say,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you've got thirty minutes to

522
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Speaker 1: give to this, now jump on and do that same

523
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Speaker 1: thing again in that same pace. What we're gonna try

524
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Speaker 1: to do before we move on is we're gonna get

525
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Speaker 1: really comfortable at this point where you've got your time

526
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Speaker 1: up and you've got your you know, so you're going

527
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Speaker 1: further distances each time you do this, and you're building up.

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Speaker 1: What you're gonna start noticing is the parts of your

529
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: body that burn. You're gonna your lungs are gonna start

530
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: feeling it, your legs are gonna start feeling your legs

531
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Speaker 1: are gonna start feeling heavy. The portions where the pack

532
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Speaker 1: is resting is going to start feeling heavy, and that's

533
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Speaker 1: what you want. And then what you want to do

534
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Speaker 1: is just track your own progress and say, okay, I

535
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: started out here. Maybe make some notes as you do this,

536
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: say I started out here, here's how far I went

537
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Speaker 1: on the machine, or here's how far I did in

538
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: the stairs, this is what it felt like. The time

539
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: will be the same, but the distance will be different.

540
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: And then or maybe you're out on a mountain and

541
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Speaker 1: you're doing it and you're like, okay, I was going

542
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: really slow at the end. Remember, you just want to

543
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: keep pushing yourself at that acts level every time. So

544
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: it's very like you're your own coach on this one.

545
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: But what you're gonna do is you're gonna notice over

546
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: time you're gonna be able to do it a lot easier.

547
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: The pack is gonna kind of, in many ways feel lighter.

548
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Speaker 1: Those points where it starts to feel um. Your shoulders

549
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 1: are gonna start to feel it first time. Your your

550
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: back's gonna start to feel it, your legs are gonna

551
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,239
Speaker 1: start to feel it. You'll start noticing that you can

552
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: go further, you can do these easier, And it's building

553
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: up that muscle memory for the exact activity we're doing,

554
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: hiking in the mountains with a heavy pack on. Once

555
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: you've got that, now you can move to stage two.

556
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Speaker 1: So the stage two is going to be our backcountry rock.

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Speaker 1: This is just gonna be slower and heavier. We're gonna

558
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Speaker 1: try a longer time period for this. So what I

559
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: want to do is now starting out. You know, you

560
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: want to work into everything. If you've never done anything

561
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: like this, don't throw on a thirty pound pack and

562
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: try running on your treadmill because you're probably gonna hate it.

563
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: You're probably gonna get injured, you're probably whatever. You want

564
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: to build up to these things. You want these things

565
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: to just come naturally. And I wanted to be something

566
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Speaker 1: where you're like, hey, I can do this. You know.

567
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Speaker 1: It's like I said, the first one could be fifteen

568
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Speaker 1: minutes out. What we're doing is you should have kind

569
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: of mastered that first stage. Now we're gonna move on

570
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,159
Speaker 1: and we're gonna add some weight, so it's gonna be

571
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Speaker 1: the backcountry rock. We're gonna go. Prescribed weight here is

572
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,239
Speaker 1: going to be from thirty five to sixty pounds. We're

573
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna try to max out up at that sixty pound range.

574
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Speaker 1: If you've got the time. You can either do this

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Speaker 1: in fifteen minute intervals or thirty minutes. And what we're

576
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: doing here is you're still gonna want the incline. You're

577
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: gonna want that up, but we aren't going to be

578
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: necessarily pushing, especially starting out, pushing it like with the

579
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Speaker 1: speed like we did on the last one. You want

580
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: to slowly burn into it. And that extra weight should

581
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna kind of keep it right around.

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00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: I would say, let's say, like starting out, you're gonna

583
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: want to work yourself at like because you've got that

584
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,639
Speaker 1: heavier pack on, but you still want to be moving

585
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: at a good pace and kind of activating your muscles,

586
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: burning things a little faster and just getting used to that.

587
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Now additional weight, let your your muscles kind of stabilize

588
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: building up to it. Eventually we'll do this same one

589
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: that weight, very similar to we did the day hunt

590
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: where we were picking up the speed and everything, but

591
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: I want you to work slow into it. So you

592
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: start out on a moderate incline, your work away halfway

593
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: up to halfway, and then the second half is going

594
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: to be kind of like a more full incline if possible.

595
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: If you're in the hills, just pick a good hill,

596
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: pick a good uphill incline, you could do a steady whatever.

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00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: You just want to make sure that you've got that

598
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: uphill going. And then as this becomes easier, you're going

599
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: to increase the intensity with your speed, so kind of

600
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: picking up the pace like we did in the last one.

601
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: You could do these in fifteen minute or thirty minute intervals.

602
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: And one thing that I like to do too on these,

603
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: on these heavier packs is just say, Okay, i've got

604
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. I can go aways in thirty minutes, but

605
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick a pace where I know that I

606
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: can kind of maintain a good pace. But throughout the

607
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: entire thirty minutes with this heavier pack on, and that's

608
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: a great way that kind of gets those those endurance

609
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: and muscles built. I feel like it really mimics that.

610
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: Like you're out there and you're when I'm backpack hunting,

611
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: I've got my back pack on. It's like, hey, I'm

612
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: just getting into camp. So you've got that heavy pack

613
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: and you might be going for three four hours steady

614
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: steady clip you know, half hour time half or donner

615
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: time whatever. You're taking a few breaks in there, and

616
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: then you know you're probably setting up camp and then

617
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: lightning your pack from there. So it really is going

618
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: to mimic that heavy pack in that getting used to

619
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: that additional weight and building that muscle for climbing. Once

620
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 1: you feel like you've mastered that, then we're gonna bump

621
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: it up again and we're gonna we're gonna hit what

622
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: I would call the pack out portion. And this isn't

623
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna be something that you're gonna do a lot. But

624
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: I always find it funny how you know, guys go

625
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: on these big hunts, they've done whatever they've they've got ready,

626
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: and it comes time to carry something out and they've

627
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: never put that much weight on their back. The last

628
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: place you want to learn to do this is in

629
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: a mountain ten miles from the truck. But that's exactly

630
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: what we do. I mean, it's just like we're all

631
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: guilty of this. So it's one of those things. If

632
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: you can practice this at home, I think that you're

633
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot better off. I know, back in

634
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: the day, when I was going to school in the

635
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: spring and summer semesters and then I would just jump

636
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: into the fall guiding, I was like, man, I would

637
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: stay pretty fit. I'd do a lot of other exercises

638
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: I would. I would hike with my pack on, but

639
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: before that first part of the season would kick off,

640
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: I would always start with my really heavy pack to

641
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: really mimic that that pack out, and I would work

642
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Speaker 1: up to about a hundred and ten pounds, and most

643
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Speaker 1: of that was like where I could walk. I would

644
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: just walk that in the neighborhood whatever. So this portion

645
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: just first, um, let's call this prescribed weight sixty five

646
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: plus pounds, So we're going to try to hit that

647
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: eighty pound or higher. You know, I don't want anybody

648
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: to like injuring themselves, So work up to things you

649
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: can do. How heavy have a pack? Should you be

650
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: able to carry away about a hundred and seventy five pounds?

651
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: And I regularly carry a hundred pound packs out. I

652
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: don't like to, I have I do sometimes my body

653
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: now feels it, and so I think like that seventy

654
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: five pounds is like a pretty solid number. Pounds is

655
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: like a pretty light number, solid number for a pack

656
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: out to feel good and not not really like tear

657
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: up every joint and all this other stuff. So we're

658
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: gonna start thinking about that. What this is gonna be

659
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: is this isn't like a speed thing. This is just

660
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: getting used to that heavier weight. So these are gonna

661
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: be longer if you can. You can start out with

662
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, work up to thirty minutes whatever. Let's start

663
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: on flat and we're just gonna start getting used to

664
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: the weight. This is something you could do in your neighborhood,

665
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: walking outside, maybe give yourself a half hour and just

666
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: just kind of walk around and start building that your

667
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: body used to carrying that heavy pack. Your body, all

668
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: those little muscles that keep you stable in unstable terrain

669
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: with that weight, just being able to to work those

670
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: out now before you head out in the mountains. Then

671
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna progress this to being able to doing some

672
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: sort of slight incline and also, if possible, if you

673
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: can get out a decline. So if you're doing stairs,

674
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: this is one you want to be super careful in

675
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: the decline. But most packouts, like you're hiking up from

676
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: the truck and packing down at the end of the day,

677
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: it's the down hills stuff that really wears you out.

678
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: Being able to control yourself with weight when you do

679
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: this one, don't be afraid to use like some trekking

680
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: pools something to help stabilize and you know, not burn

681
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: those muscles out, especially if you're in the mountains doing

682
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: this one. You want to just be super careful, no injuries,

683
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: but you do want to get your muscles in your

684
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: body used to carrying that heavyweight. So this is our

685
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: stage three. We can start this on flat ground. We

686
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: can take that time that we did before and just

687
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: start building up the weight that we're actually caring so

688
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: um salt bags are great. Maybe two salt bags in

689
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: your pack, building up to that eighty pounds, and then

690
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: if you're feeling good with this, you can start adding

691
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: a little bit inclined to that. I think by kind

692
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: of following this this weighted ruck system, by building up

693
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 1: and doing these different things, I would say the packout portion,

694
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna do a lot less you don't. This isn't

695
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: something you necessarily have to do every day. None of

696
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: this is. I think that outside of the ruck, if

697
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: you're if you're into working out, or you've got a

698
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: fitness regiment, which I think is awesome, you definitely should

699
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: um outside of this rock, I think you want to

700
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: work in other workouts that do similar things and build endurance.

701
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: I personally do rowing, rowing machine in the springtime, I

702
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: try to kayak as much as I can on the

703
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: lake or whatever. Um So doing different kinds of uh

704
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: endurance activities rowing, riding, maybe cycling, into stationary biking whatever,

705
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 1: and then running. Um I like to run, some people

706
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: don't like to run. Whatever, whatever you like to do,

707
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: just doing some endurance stuff in the winter. I like

708
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: to ski too. It's like it's a leg workout. It it.

709
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: I go down and do a lot of turns and

710
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: try to like burn my legs out in a short

711
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: amount of time while doing something that I enjoy. But

712
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: I add in a lot of these other workouts. So

713
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: maybe you know starting out the day rock as a

714
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: good one. It's like a good go to workout. I

715
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: could throw this in any day, I could do it

716
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: every other day, I could do it once a week whatever,

717
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: and then mixing these other ones in as you graduate.

718
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean that you have to, Oh, I

719
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: got to the pack out stage, so I don't have

720
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,479
Speaker 1: to worry about the day stage one day rock. Now,

721
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: this is just that's your more base, that's your go

722
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: to building that muscle memory, building that act by doing, um,

723
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: the thing that you're going to use the most, just

724
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: having that weighted pack on and doing these hikes and

725
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: if you can get out on the weekends, maybe you're

726
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: going to shed hike whatever, Throw some weight in your pack,

727
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: throw throw your gear in. What I do, honestly, I

728
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: just leave my pack set up how I've got it,

729
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: so I've got my water in there. I've got my

730
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: bigger spotting scope I waited out. It's like thirty pounds

731
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: worth of just gear that I probably don't need. Um.

732
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta remember you're gonna have your bow

733
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: or your rifle. Another thing to think about is like

734
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: maybe grabbing a five pound weight or a ten pound

735
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: weight and carrying that in one hand and passing the

736
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: weight back and forth. That's really good for mimicking carrying

737
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: your bow, carrying your rifle. Building that. I know, when

738
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: I'm self filming, I've got my bow in one hand

739
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: and a camera in the other, I'm always carrying around.

740
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: I've got twenty pounds between my two hands. It feels

741
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like not including what's in my pack. So building that

742
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: the areas that are going to get fatigued while you're hunting.

743
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: Training for that in the off season, so when you

744
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: hit the mountains, your body is going to be familiar

745
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: with this stuff. It's not like, well, where is this

746
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: coming from. There's a lot of other workouts. You can

747
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: do a lot of other exercises, but I think you

748
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: should mix in. But you know, if all you do

749
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: is run, all you do is ride or whatever, maybe

750
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: you lift weights, whatever you do. If that's all you do,

751
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: and then you get out in the mountains and you

752
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 1: throw a heavy pack on and start hiking, it's gonna

753
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: be a new workout. It's gonna be new to you,

754
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get drained, even though you're in really

755
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: good shape. So the key here is just to build

756
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that muscle memory, build that familiarity with the act of

757
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: doing what you're gonna do, so trained by doing and

758
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: I think that by doing this, you're going to find

759
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: that you'll be able to kind of plan your hunt

760
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: less on how far something is, how hard it's gonna be,

761
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: and you're just gonna your body is naturally gonna acclimate faster,

762
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: your body is naturally gonna be able to hunt harder,

763
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: and you're gonna find a lot more success. So this

764
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: week I decided to do a little something different for

765
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: this podcast because I thought, hey, I'm trying to think

766
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: of ways that like make this more interactive for you,

767
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: make it easier for you, and some of this might

768
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, this is very difficult to understand.

769
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: So what I did, Um, I just uploaded it today

770
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: on my Remy Warren YouTube page, so you can go

771
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: to YouTube search Remy war and find my it's my

772
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: own YouTube page, my own YouTube channel. What I did

773
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: was I made like a fifteen minute companion video for

774
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: this podcast. So we've got our stage one rock. So

775
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: how this is gonna work is gonna be like, Okay,

776
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: you decide, hey, I want to do this, So what

777
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: I did was I just threw on a heavy pack.

778
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I got my camera, I got I actually had somebody

779
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: come with me to film this as well. And it's

780
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: gonna be like if you're on a treadmill, you can

781
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: put this video up and essentially hike alongside me and

782
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: gives you the times and the rates and in a

783
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: little bit of like inspiration and how to do this

784
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: while you're walking or hiking. So I'll tell you, okay,

785
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: like let's bump the the speed up here, keep that

786
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: speed going, increase that incline, and then you can follow

787
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: along on this fifteen minute video as just kind of

788
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: like an inspiration of here's what I do, and I'm

789
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: gonna do this while I'm working out. I don't know

790
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: if that's going to help, but I've seen like other

791
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: things like this and thought, there's nothing like that for

792
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: hunting that I know of, So let's this is just

793
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: a way to kind of get that that rock training started.

794
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: And so go check that out. If this is something

795
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: that you think you want to do, if you're like

796
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: serious about building up that muscle memory with that weighted

797
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: pack on, you've got a hunt planned for this year.

798
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: It's not just necessarily meant to be a video where

799
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: you just like sit there and watch it. I think

800
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: it'd be strange a video to do that. But throw

801
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: your pack on, get on a treadmill or a stair

802
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: climber or something, and then hike to this with this, UM,

803
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: I think it'll help like kind of build that idea

804
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: and get you kind of going in the right direction.

805
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: So I thought i'd do that. Let me know what

806
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: you think about it. I'll keep doing more. But I

807
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: didn't want to do a bunch of them and then

808
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: people be like this doesn't work. I don't I don't

809
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 1: get this whatever. So your feedback will be awesome on that.

810
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Feel free as always shoot me messages UM, either on

811
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: social media. You could even just drop a comment on

812
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: that video or whatever. If you like it. You've got

813
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: hunting buddies or whatever, share it with them. Sure this

814
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: podcast with him, because look, I mean, you're hunting group

815
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: is as strong as your weakest hiker. And that's one

816
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned as a guy, is like, hey,

817
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm hiking to the guy behind me, um, but I'm

818
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: constantly trying to push them, and I think that that's cool.

819
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: Is like, you know, as hunting buddies, you're probably gonna

820
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: be pushing each other. But if you're if you're going

821
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: on an elk hunt with a couple of friends, family, whatever,

822
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: you're hunting with your hunt with my dad a lot.

823
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: My dad's actually in killer shape. This is stuff like

824
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: he puts on a weighted pack and hikes every day.

825
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: He does some serious elevation, like we're fortunate we live

826
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: close to mountains. He does it every single day. And um,

827
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: he's actually does it more than I do. There's day

828
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: I miss days. I'm not gonna lie, but I think

829
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: that this is like a good way to get started.

830
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: I think this is if you were to ask me

831
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: one thing where that would make you more successful, Honestly,

832
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: this is it. Um, they're a lot of hunting skills

833
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: and other things out there, but unless you're in some

834
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: kind of shape, and it doesn't matter how old you are,

835
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you're starting out, you can always

836
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: be better. I'm not saying you need to be in

837
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: the best, like better shape than be better shape than

838
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: the next guy, whatever, but just the best for you.

839
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: And I think this is a really good way to start,

840
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: really good way to do it. And I think that

841
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: if you get in the groove of this, if you

842
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: start it, you're going to find a lot more success.

843
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 1: So go check those out. Let me know what you

844
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 1: guys think. I'd love to build more of these out

845
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: for you. So um, this is where it's. This whole

846
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: podcast thing is gonna get interactive. I want this to

847
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: be about things that benefit you. Also, let me know

848
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: what you think about it, and until next week, keep

849
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: on rocking.