WEBVTT - Hour 2 - Ben Cohen (03-10-20)

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<v Speaker 1>ADP show mclovin has settled on a poll question I believe, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not like this, Okay. If you were a

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<v Speaker 1>team that wanted to sign Tom Brady, but Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>called you and said, you also have to sign my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Antonio Brown, who he's been linked too lately, would

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<v Speaker 1>you do that package deal? Say you're Tennessee, Well, what

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<v Speaker 1>if you're Oakland? I know, yeah, that's the only one

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<v Speaker 1>that would be Yeah, the Raiders, that would be the

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<v Speaker 1>only one that would be interesting. If if you're Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get Tom Brady and you have to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in Antonio Brown, I think with the caveat of

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<v Speaker 1>saying if he doesn't live up to our standards, then

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<v Speaker 1>we will cut him like everybody else has. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would do that as a package deal. If Brady

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<v Speaker 1>wanted that, you wouldn't be nervous about Antonio. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I can always cut him. I mean, I want Brady.

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<v Speaker 1>If if if that's the baggage that goes along with

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<v Speaker 1>Brady and it's Antonio Brown, yeah, I can always say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be the ones that have the final

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<v Speaker 1>say here, whether you know he stays or not. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why Tom has taken such a vested interest

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<v Speaker 1>in Antonio Brown, Like, I don't know what that friendship

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<v Speaker 1>was like that that brief stay that he had in

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<v Speaker 1>New England but apparently had an impact on him. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>did you see that story? The Patriots are si quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote sniffing around the trademarket for a wide receiver. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that confirm that everything we saw last year? They

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't have any weapons for Tom. But that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to keep They went and got Josh Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>and his troubled history. That's why they tried to still

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<v Speaker 1>talk themselves into keeping Antonio Brown. They were desperate. They

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<v Speaker 1>realized that they had no weapons whatsoever. Nikkil Harry didn't develop.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have a tight end. You know, Edelman is

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<v Speaker 1>what thirty three? Now? You know they're talking about bringing

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<v Speaker 1>back Chris Hogan. I mean they need some weapons. Hunter Henry,

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<v Speaker 1>if he's healthy, would be a great guy for them

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up the charger tight and who I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it is an unrestricted free agent that would be somebody

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<v Speaker 1>where you go, Okay, now we have If I am

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots, I can't believe I'm getting into this topic again.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're the Patriots, you have to decide, if

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<v Speaker 1>Brady's coming back, what do we need to have to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure success? Now, Like this is the reason why he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to come back, because I think Brady might look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and say, right, you know what I want

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<v Speaker 1>money wise? Now what are you going to do weapon wise?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me an idea what your plan is? And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because Brady may say, look, you want me back. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to come back. I mean I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a distinct possibility here. Yeah, mcglove, Well, what about if

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<v Speaker 1>it goes to the next quarterback, Carrots stid Of or

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Alt or Ryan Cannell dot you need a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of weapons for him, probably even more than you need

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<v Speaker 1>for Brady. Yeah, but it's not one of those that Hey, Andy,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get all the weapons you want. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go there, or Jared Stidham says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, I don't want to start. I mean Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>would hitchhike there. Brady's looking at this. This is his

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<v Speaker 1>last contract, this is his last opportunity to win another

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl. He's gonna go m I don't like what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing there. I don't like the game plan that

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<v Speaker 1>you have here. But didn't the Patriots have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to sign Brady a couple of years ago and Belichick

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do then. So what makes you think

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<v Speaker 1>that this time around Belichick's gonna go? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a forty two year old Tom Brady coming off one

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<v Speaker 1>of his worst seasons. Now we want to extend him.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking to somebody yesterday who's involved in this whole process,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know doesn't want his name mentioned, but he said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is, I think both of these guys can

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<v Speaker 1>walk away from one another. That Belichick can walk away

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<v Speaker 1>from Brady. And the fact that Robert Craft, who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>say anything or hasn't said anything, said, according to Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Curran that hey, I'm not going to get involved in this.

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<v Speaker 1>That leads me to believe if you're not getting involved

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<v Speaker 1>in this, there is a real strong chance that Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady is not back, and it might be because Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick does not want him back. I think that's just

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<v Speaker 1>the facts. Now, that's not trying to glam this up

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<v Speaker 1>sensationalize it. I think that's just the harsh reality of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Belichick can move on He's moved on from every player

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<v Speaker 1>that he's had, and he may love them, but he

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<v Speaker 1>moves on. Richard Seymour, Tie law Lawyer, Malloy Logan Manka,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean run down the list. He has no problem going. Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving on, and he usually moves on a year before,

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<v Speaker 1>not a year later. Yes, he really put in Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Brady in the same category as all those dudes. Belichick is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I wouldn't, but I think Belichick is Belichick's

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<v Speaker 1>he's cold blooded. Yeah, it does seem like he's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>clear that Tom's just another player. Yes, he treats him

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<v Speaker 1>that way, and I think they're treating him that way. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you have other teams that look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Saints with Drew Brees. Could they be actually better

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<v Speaker 1>without Drew Brees. You could, You could make a case

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<v Speaker 1>they could be. But you know, Sean Payton wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have Drew Brees back. Teddy Bridgewater could be just as

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<v Speaker 1>good as Drew Brees this year. Taysom Hill might give

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<v Speaker 1>them something that is completely unique and makes them even

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<v Speaker 1>tougher to beat. But they're loyal to Drew Brees. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you can be loyal to a fault and we'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out if that's the case with the Saints. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think Belichick can walk away from Brady, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Brady can walk away from Belichick. Yeah, And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like Belichick is walking away from Brady when he's thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Giants with Eli manning the guys mid forties,

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<v Speaker 1>ideas T shirts for the Fanets our chat room, as

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<v Speaker 1>you'd like to be called. Apparently there's some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's unrest with the collective bargaining agreement with the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>players and voting. Apparently there's some unrest in the chat room.

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<v Speaker 1>From what Mario told me that not everybody's big on

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<v Speaker 1>the fanats. But you had your opportunity over the weekend

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<v Speaker 1>to vote, and the Fanats won by a landslide. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>we have our pole question. Joe in California joins us Hi, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have for me today? Hey? Dan? I

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<v Speaker 1>think what's interesting about this CBA is that these owners

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<v Speaker 1>are playing forty chests, and I don't think they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>enough credit for it because what they've done is is

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<v Speaker 1>they've pitted the players against themselves. They've pitted the sixty

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<v Speaker 1>against the forty. And while they're focused on that, they

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<v Speaker 1>can slide anything in the back door on that CVA.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not going to get as much attention because wisely,

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<v Speaker 1>they've went after one thing that the players care about

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<v Speaker 1>more than probably anything else, and that's their money. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeen games, the fact that and thanks for the

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<v Speaker 1>phone call, Joe, the fact that the owner said it's

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<v Speaker 1>non negotiable. Everything's negotiable, And why are you dictating what's

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<v Speaker 1>non negotiable? Because that's the one thing the players had.

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<v Speaker 1>What can we get if we give you that seventeenth game?

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<v Speaker 1>Now what do we get? I just don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>got enough. And I think that it is the haves

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<v Speaker 1>and the have nots. I truly believe that if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in the have nots category, I'm voting for this because

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<v Speaker 1>who knows how long I get to play. But while

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<v Speaker 1>I get to play, I'm going to get an extra

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<v Speaker 1>check that seventeenth game and extra chance at the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>The guys who were making a million dollars a game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they don't want to play a seventeenth game.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to run that risk. You know that

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<v Speaker 1>these are the things that are coming up now. You're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to hear this because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these players didn't really dive into what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>leading up to that four hundred and fifty six page document.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've all got memos emails from our bosses,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, nah, doesn't really relate to me. Nap delete,

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<v Speaker 1>nap delete, And then all of a sudden, somebody says,

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't responded to what sent to that email two

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<v Speaker 1>months ago? You're supposed to respond and because of that,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get into this health program. What. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like here with some of these players

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<v Speaker 1>that then now they're coming out making these strong statements.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we push the vote to Saturday, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>voted before, you can't go on second thought, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to vote differently here, you know, can't. There's no doovers here.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's still a lot going on. But as a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>just tell me about seventeen games, when does it start?

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<v Speaker 1>How many home games? How many away games? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a neutral site? What's the salary cap going to be like?

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<v Speaker 1>Is franchise tag change? And are we going to be

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<v Speaker 1>playing games in other countries and the playoffs, that's all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other stuff. Yeah, I don't think we care

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<v Speaker 1>about somebody's health and the health benefits when they're done. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're more concerned about what's going to happen in free

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<v Speaker 1>agency in the draft than what happens to you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're thirty two years of age and not playing football anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit about the coronavirus, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting to see a little bit more of a move

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<v Speaker 1>with what leagues are going to do, how they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to handle this, and as we move forward, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in three weeks at the twinal four. Because

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<v Speaker 1>you've got college games going on now, and you've got

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<v Speaker 1>fans fifteen twenty thousand at a game, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>risk of that the Olympics might be in jeopardy. Here

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<v Speaker 1>you have soccer matches in Italy. Basically Italy is in lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>They're talking about fourteen million people on lockdown, quarantine, soccer matches,

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<v Speaker 1>no fans. I think we're headed that in that direct,

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<v Speaker 1>and frankly, I hope we are headed in the direction.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're going to have sporting events then let's not

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<v Speaker 1>run the risk. I know it's about money, It's always

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<v Speaker 1>about money, but in this situation, I think these leagues

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<v Speaker 1>really got to take a hard look at this to say,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we jeopardizing here? Because we don't have all

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<v Speaker 1>the answers. We can sit here and go. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like the common it's like the flu. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not. Yeah, people die from the flu, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>but we at least have some kind of vaccine for

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<v Speaker 1>you there. We don't even know anything about the coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>We know very little about this, and it felt like

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<v Speaker 1>we got started a little later than we should have

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<v Speaker 1>and now you try to play catch up. So I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to sit here and go, boy, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>overreacted because I don't know. I mean, I know what's

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<v Speaker 1>at stake, what's going on in the Bay Area. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to limit the number of people who can go

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<v Speaker 1>to a sporting event. Can't have more than a thousand.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happening, and Lebron James said something that was ill

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<v Speaker 1>advised flip it in my opinion, where he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if the fans aren't going to be at games, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to play Well, he doesn't know what he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about with the coronavirus and fans who are still

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<v Speaker 1>going to be watching the games on TV. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to get to that point. I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>And the fact that you know, you're starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>just pockets here, I think. I think there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a real hard decision to be made by the NCAA

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<v Speaker 1>because I would not be surprised if the Final Four

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<v Speaker 1>is played basically an empty arena in Atlanta fan free.

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<v Speaker 1>I really believe that we could be headed there. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that these leagues, even though there's no

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<v Speaker 1>NFL right now and baseball is just getting started, will

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<v Speaker 1>make the decision together as one announcement or do you

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<v Speaker 1>think one league will do something of the NA would

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<v Speaker 1>do something, and because of public pressure, the other leagues

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<v Speaker 1>will follow in line quickly. Well, you have spring training

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<v Speaker 1>games in Florida, and there have been cases of the

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<v Speaker 1>coronavirus in Florida, but you're still having you know, ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand people show up for a baseball game. So south

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<v Speaker 1>By Southwest was canceled, Coachella was canceled, but we're still

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<v Speaker 1>going to have people at sporting events like I just

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<v Speaker 1>there's a disconnect there. For some reason, we feel like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're safe at a sporting event. We're not. We don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know right now, and I think these leagues,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take somebody else to react before the NCAA reacts,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, because the nc DOUBLEA is slow moving. Yeah, mclub.

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<v Speaker 1>From a personal standpoint of my brothers and I were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go down to the six or his Hawks game

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<v Speaker 1>next week Saturday night in Philly with my dad. But

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's seventy five, perfectly good health. But we just

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<v Speaker 1>we just said in there, I don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's ring true to you guys. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>buy and stuf up. We didn't have tickets yet. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Like I'm not gonna say, oh, you're overreacting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's whatever you feel comfortable doing. Now. Somebody shouldn't say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you're overreacting. I think we're underreacting. I mean I I

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<v Speaker 1>just precautionary moves right now before we get this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of under control, because we do not know. And you

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<v Speaker 1>see what's happening you know in China, in Asia, well

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<v Speaker 1>in other countries. The fact that Italy is doing what

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing. That's that's a bold move. Hopefully we don't

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<v Speaker 1>get there, but the fact that they said we're quarantine

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen million people, Michael and Arizona. Hey Mike, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? Good morning, and thank you for taking the call.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're talking about sports being affected, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're more in the ball and six, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is my saying. I'm in a Formula one in Indy

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<v Speaker 1>car and I looked the other day Formula one has

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<v Speaker 1>one point nine to two billion views and they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>ready to cancel the Chinese race, and they got one

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<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam. It's probably gonna get canceled. And they also

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<v Speaker 1>one of their big races is in Italy. So I'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to see what you think about that affecting almost

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<v Speaker 1>two gollion people. Thanks for the call for talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Michael. Well, you know these leagues, obviously there's

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<v Speaker 1>research that goes into this, and you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>make a move like that unless you have some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of information that says, look, I got to protect these

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<v Speaker 1>drivers who go in there too, Like you owe it

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<v Speaker 1>to those drivers if they're going to be exposed to anything.

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<v Speaker 1>And how much exposure are you going to have? And

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<v Speaker 1>then you can't go, well, it's just a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of exposure. We can't do that. And if you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in China, you're gonna be in Vietnam, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in Italy. I understand why you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>cancel this. And you may not like it, no, because hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're America. And then games go on and after nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven and we had a baseball game and President

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<v Speaker 1>Bush throughout the first I mean, I love that resiliency,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also I want to know what are we

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<v Speaker 1>up against here? And I don't think we know, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that we're going to find out here

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<v Speaker 1>in the next you know, seven to ten day, two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks of where we're headed with sporting events here in

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate future. I truly think that there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a change, hopefully temporary, but there's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a change. All Right. We'll take a break. When we

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<v Speaker 1>have for me? Hey, nice to talk to you. Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saint Dansay, Well, thank you. The neutral sight games.

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<v Speaker 1>If they did the seventeenth game, I think they could

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<v Speaker 1>in Toronto. Oh yeah, there's plenty of places with that. Purvis,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the phone call, you know, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>have you may not have a team that is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>since you didn't stop me from doing it, I put

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<v Speaker 1>those sports media job when you watch bracketologist, NFL draft expert,

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a bracketologist. You're like a PhD in bracketology. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't want a PhD that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want a bachelor's degree in it. That's it. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say this guy's gonna be an eleven seed now?

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<v Speaker 1>But who else is a bracketok? Ken Palm like, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the guy whose name only comes up for

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<v Speaker 1>one week a year. Jeff Sagrin like, I don't, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm going over to be Daniel Jeremiah on

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL network is a draft analyst? Some of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys on the Mother's ship. Yeah, is there any more

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<v Speaker 1>niche than the guy who does play by play for

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<v Speaker 1>the Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest. He does about forty

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<v Speaker 1>five minutes to work a year. It's publicly. But if

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<v Speaker 1>there only one eating competition a year, there's a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's only one live televised on ESPN. Does he

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<v Speaker 1>does he travel? Is he the He's actually the commissioner

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<v Speaker 1>of everything. He runs the league too, and he does

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<v Speaker 1>play by play cut costs. Yes, it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>frankless job. Okay, that's not bad, Yeah it is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>now we graded on a curve. We have a frank

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<v Speaker 1>lest I can't even give you a B minus. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that was a Wiener. All right, all right, Frank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Frank you very much, Frank you for your service. It

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<v Speaker 1>was Ben Cohen. Ben Cohen, he's a big time sports

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that coming up. I noticed you've written a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about the coronavirus. Where do you think the

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<v Speaker 1>tipping points going to be sports wise with the coronavirus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be the July fourth hot

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<v Speaker 1>Dog getting content. No, I do think it's coming. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, this whole thing is a bit like watching

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 1>the Titanic approach the Iceberg in slow motion, Like we

0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>know what's going to happen, we know it's going to

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 1>be very painful, and yet people on the deck haven't

0:24:35.720 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>really wrapped their minds around it yet. I don't think.

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the idea of playing games and empty stadiums

0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>was unrealistic not too long ago, but it's already become

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:46.360
<v Speaker 1>reality in Asia and Europe, and there's nothing really about

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.080
<v Speaker 1>being in the US that anoculates us from this. We

0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>say to be a few weeks behind Asia and Europe,

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I think in terms of the spread of this virus,

0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and so it would not really surprise me in the

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>least to see extreme measures being enforced here pretty soon.

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a real possibility for severe disruptions at

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.840
<v Speaker 1>like the busiest time of the calendar for American sports.

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 1>But I also wonder about this, Ben. The NCAA is

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>slow moving. You've got the Final four, the Final four

0:25:13.640 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>coming up in April, and I wonder if they would

0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>have the wherewithal to be the first league that would

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>make a really dramatic decision and have these basketball games played,

0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, in front of empty arenas. Well. I think

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:30.879
<v Speaker 1>the Final Four is not the issue. I mean, that's

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>one hundred thousand people in the football stadium. But the

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.080
<v Speaker 1>thing about the Final Four is that it's a month away,

0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think that the NBA and the NHL will

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:40.399
<v Speaker 1>probably have moved by then. It seems like they're probably

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 1>going to move at some point this week. I mean,

0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it just feels like the momentum is heading that way.

0:25:44.440 --> 0:25:47.200
<v Speaker 1>So you know, the DNCA has to worry about first

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>round games first, right, I mean, so that's next week.

0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there are conference tournaments this weekend. Vanderbilt has

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:55.439
<v Speaker 1>sent kids home and cancel its classes, and yet the

0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:59.479
<v Speaker 1>SEC tournament is down the street in Nashville. So Dancer

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:01.679
<v Speaker 1>is not the most progressive body. I don't know if

0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you were aware of that. And I think there will

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:07.239
<v Speaker 1>probably have to be some pressure from local authorities and

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.400
<v Speaker 1>states and maybe even you know, on the federal level.

0:26:10.440 --> 0:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't know what they are going

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>to do. I mean, the idea of playing NA tournament

0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 1>in Mt Arenas is very strange, right, But it's a

0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>little bit different from the NBA playoffs because these are

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 1>neutral site games anyway, so there's not a home court

0:26:23.760 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>advantage that either team has. I think it would just

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>be weird more than anything. I mentioned that you wrote

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.800
<v Speaker 1>the book The Hot Hand. It's available online wherever books

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>are sold. And I was fascinated by this because it

0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>was a couple of decades ago. I did a story

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:42.040
<v Speaker 1>at ESPN. It was called getting blue or getting in

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the zone, as athletes called getting blue or in the zone.

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>And I remember talking to Dennis Eckersley and I said,

0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 1>what's that feeling like? And he said, I can't describe it.

0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 1>He goes, I don't want to talk about it because

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:56.919
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk myself out of it. But you've written a

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>book about really getting in the zone here the hot

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and so explained to the audience what the initiative or

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:07.199
<v Speaker 1>the premise was behind writing this. Yeah. So you know,

0:27:07.240 --> 0:27:09.480
<v Speaker 1>there's really no singular definition of the hot hand. But

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>I like to think of it as when success leads

0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.080
<v Speaker 1>to more success. And in basketball, for example, it's always

0:27:14.119 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 1>been studied in basketball, and it's when you make one

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>shot in a row and then another, and then another,

0:27:18.880 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and you feel like you're going to make your next

0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 1>shot right. You can't miss. You're in the zone, You're

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 1>on fire. But what makes this really interesting is that

0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>a few decades ago there was this classic study about

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.199
<v Speaker 1>the hot hand. And what made it the classic was

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:35.320
<v Speaker 1>the counterintuitive conclusion that there is no such thing as

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the hot hand. It doesn't exist. It's simply seeing patterns

0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>in randomness. It was this cognitive bias, this easily digestible

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:46.680
<v Speaker 1>example of seeing patterns in randomness. And you know, once

0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that study came out, something kind of amazing happened, which

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.800
<v Speaker 1>is that nobody believed that the athletes themselves, none of us,

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.199
<v Speaker 1>because we'd all felt the hot hand, we'd seen the

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 1>hot hand for ourselves. Now, some of this has changed

0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>in recent years. There is some evidence to suggest that

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>our intuition actually may have been right all along. But

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>to me, like the reason I was so intrigued by

0:28:05.880 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>this was that it was a story that has genius

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>scholars and Nobel Prize winners and NBA superstars, and it

0:28:12.600 --> 0:28:15.359
<v Speaker 1>was really about something that we all thought to be true,

0:28:15.560 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 1>only to be told that it wasn't. Only to realize

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>that maybe it actually was, and that was just irresistible

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to me as a story. But is there such thing

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>as home court advantage? Like that is that something? Is

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that real? Where you've had somebody who wins so many

0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 1>games in a row at home? Well, I think yeah, statistically,

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>there are clearly advantages to playing at home. Right, Teams

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>are are better at home. This is a little bit different, right,

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>because we all this is sort of like personal, right,

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.120
<v Speaker 1>It's it's individual, it's not a team thing. And I

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>think the real thing here is one of control. Like

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>there's something amazing happens when we do feel hot, whether

0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's in basketball, whether it's in life. I'm sure you've

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>felt hot behind the mic sometimes, Right, there are just

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 1>times when you're in a zone. And the question has

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>always been like is that real? Or is that an illusion?

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think it's something that we are still trying

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>to figure out. I'm still thinking about it, even after

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>spending on all these years writing about it. But you

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:14.040
<v Speaker 1>have athletes who try to put themselves in the zone.

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Can you physically do that? I don't think so. In fact,

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:20.280
<v Speaker 1>I asked Steph Curry about this because in the book

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I write about the one night that Steph Curry was

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the hottest he's ever been. Was really a game that

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.320
<v Speaker 1>changed his life and the fate of the Gloden State

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 1>Warriors and the future of the entire NBA. And it

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 1>was a game against the Knicks in twenty thirteen. The

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>most amazing part about it is that the Knicks actually

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>won the game. But no matter that. I asked Steph like,

0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is there anything that you can do to put yourself

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>in the zone? And he says, he doesn't know when

0:29:42.040 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to happen, or where it's going to happen,

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 1>or how it's going to happen, or why it's going

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to happen. But once it does happen, you have to

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>embrace it. And he did that night. He scored fifty

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 1>four points. He made eleven of the thirteen threes. It

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of the game that changed everything for him

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 1>and for us and for you know, everybody who watches basketball.

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>What about gambling where you feel like you're on a roll,

0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>literally on a roll, or rouletts or craps. Does it

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:10.440
<v Speaker 1>play into that as well? Well? We think it does.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Something odd happens when we walk into a casino, when

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>we go to a basketball arena and Steph Curry makes

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>three shots in a row, everybody thinks that he's going

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>to make his fourth shot. Right, that's the hot hand.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 1>When we walk into a casino and you go to

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a roulette wheel and the ball lands on red three

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 1>times in a row, what researchers shown is that people

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.280
<v Speaker 1>bet on black the next time. That's the opposite of

0:30:30.280 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the hot hand. It is called the gambler's fallacy. And

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 1>to me, again, this is about control. When we have

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>agency of a situation, when we are the shooters and

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.840
<v Speaker 1>when we were playing basketball, we think we can get hot,

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>but when we understand that we were at the mercy

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of chance, we realize that we probably can't. And so

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the difference there is like of skilled performance and random performance.

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Skilled is when you can really take advantage and random

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is when you probably shouldn't. And believing in the hot

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.720
<v Speaker 1>hand can be disastrous. It can backfire on you and

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.200
<v Speaker 1>burn you a little bit. Do you know more are

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>after you've done this or less after you've done this?

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 1>That is a great question. I technically know more about

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the hot hand, but it's sort of made me question

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>everything around me. So it's possible that I just spent

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 1>like three years becoming less smart about something, which is

0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>always a great way to spend three years. Give me

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the athlete that you would love to talk to about this.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh about the hot hand, Well, I you know it

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>was Steph and I did get to talk to him.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>We saw Lebron talk about it a few weeks ago

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:31.440
<v Speaker 1>after he made five threes in like seven possessions and

0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:33.400
<v Speaker 1>he says, of course the hothand is reel, which makes

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>him like every other NBA player. It actually might be

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Klay Thompson, just because you never quite know what's going

0:31:38.920 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>to come out of Clay Thompson's mouth, and he I think, like,

0:31:42.160 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I wrote about Steph, but probably the guy

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>who embodies the hot hand is his own teammate, right,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Like to score thirty seven points in a quarter is

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 1>still an insane achievement. And I've watched that YouTube clip

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>over and over and I know those shots are going

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in and I still have no idea how he actually

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.240
<v Speaker 1>does it. So I would love to like insert some

0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>truth sermon to him and just like just grill Clay

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for like an hour about like what that feels like. Ben,

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.280
<v Speaker 1>good luck with the book. We appreciate you joining us.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 1>That's Ben Cohen, Wall Street Journal sports reporter and author

0:32:13.000 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>of The Hot Hand. Yeah. I remember Jordan against the

0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Blazers in the NBA Finals where he looks over to

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 1>the broadcasting team and basically shrugs like, I don't know

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing here. You know, he wasn't a guy

0:32:24.840 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 1>who shot threes and he's making these threes and he

0:32:26.920 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 1>looks over and goes, I don't know. And I think

0:32:29.880 --> 0:32:33.240
<v Speaker 1>we've all had that feeling, whether it's you're shooting hoops,

0:32:33.440 --> 0:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you're playing golf, there's just something where you go, this

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 1>is different, and you get in like you don't think

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>about it. A lot of times amateur athletes think too much,

0:32:44.000 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>whereas the pros try not to think. They don't want

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to be John mackerel famously told me, I said, you know,

0:32:51.600 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 1>how do you do what you do? He goes, I

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>don't know. He didn't want to break it down, because

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>then you start to think about it. An athlete doesn't

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>want to go to the free line and go, okay,

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>two dribbles, that elbow here go that. They don't think

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 1>about it that way. The athletes are on automatic, they're

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>on autopilot. The amateur is always thinking and Therefore you

0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>get in trouble because now it becomes mechanical, it doesn't

0:33:18.160 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>become reactionary. And that's what you know he's talking about

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 1>with the hot in Yeah, but is it kind of

0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.320
<v Speaker 1>chicken chicken in the egg where let's say Danie Will

0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 1>playing basketball and you hit your first two shots. That

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:31.240
<v Speaker 1>could be a coincidence. But all of a sudden, you

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like you feel confidence and you have less doubt

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.760
<v Speaker 1>in yourself and you're more aggressive. Like the coincidence of

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>making your first two or three shots, it could be

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 1>just a coincidence because you're a good shooter. Makes you think,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 1>now I can do anything. These guys can't control me,

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and it boost your confidence. Now, this goes back to

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Malcolm Gladwell where he says, you know you basically need

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>ten thousand hours I think to master something, and I

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.440
<v Speaker 1>think if you've, if you've done the work, and then

0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you get into a situation where you're making shots, then

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you know that you know you've practice to get there.

0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>It's the guy, you know, Fritzie'll take his hook shots

0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.400
<v Speaker 1>out there. You know he's not gonna make three in

0:34:06.440 --> 0:34:08.879
<v Speaker 1>a row. If he makes two in a row, I'm

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>betting that he won't make the next one, you know,

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 1>But you get to the point where these guys shoot

0:34:14.040 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>these jumping and Klay Thompson has shot a million jump shots.

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:21.880
<v Speaker 1>When he gets open, he knows that he's in the

0:34:21.960 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 1>right position, he's gonna make those shots. How many opportunities

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>does he get? Now he gets all those opportunities and

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he puts up thirty seven points in a quarter. I

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.400
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it comes down to these guys. The repetition,

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>like a golfer a million swings Tiger Woods is how many,

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>how many millions of swings has he taken? So when

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>we see him hit a shot, we go, oh my god,

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that's unbelievable. Well, he's put himself in that position to

0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>be great. It's the guy who hits shank after shank

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>after shank, and then all of a sudden it's a

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:55.320
<v Speaker 1>chip shot and it goes in. You're like, Okay, that's random.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>That won't happen again. Yeah, mclovin, But you could take

0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a million swings, you can never recreate the pressure of

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>having to hit that pot on the eighteenth with everybody watching. Yeah,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>but he's been in situations where he's had to have

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>those puts, so he's put himself in those positions before.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it might not be like Phil Mickelson to

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<v Speaker 1>win the Masters, but he's been in other positions, other

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>tournaments where he's been on the eighteenth where he's got

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<v Speaker 1>to make a big pot. We've never had that experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I've shot thousands and thousands of free throws,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you said, hey, at halftime of the Laker game,

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to go out and shoot five free

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:33.680
<v Speaker 1>throws for charity. I went down to a basketball game

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<v Speaker 1>at Rollins College last year and I was shooting against

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<v Speaker 1>the school president for some giveaways for the students. I

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<v Speaker 1>was nervous as hell, and I can shoot, and I

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 1>made the first one. I went okay, and I was fine.

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:50.880
<v Speaker 1>I think I made four out of five, But I

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:55.520
<v Speaker 1>was nervous in front of random people. These guys are

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<v Speaker 1>so used to being out there in front of people,

0:35:57.480 --> 0:36:00.440
<v Speaker 1>doing it in front of people constantly. Yeah time, But

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't know how you explain those days. I

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.359
<v Speaker 1>wasn't some superstar, little eager, but I do remember an

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>occasional game with a ball look bigger or was coming

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>in like in slow motion. When I mean I just

0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>was just seeing it a lot better than any other day.

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.480
<v Speaker 1>And you end up going four to five and hit

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of doubles or whatever, and you want to

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<v Speaker 1>repeat that, but you don't know how to do that

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<v Speaker 1>the next game. I you know, guys will talk about

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>how they they see the ball differently. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>the time of day. I mean, there's so many things

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that go into it. But I do think the psychology

0:36:30.520 --> 0:36:35.120
<v Speaker 1>of this is what fascinates me, because they've studied athletes brains.

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>They've actually they I did a study on this at

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.799
<v Speaker 1>ESPN where they put sensors on my brain where you

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>see things and then how does that read? And that's

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 1>what they do with athletes, because athletes, you get in

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>it and you don't know how long you're going to stay,

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and then you fall out of it. In their minds,

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:55.640
<v Speaker 1>they get in the zone. It's called getting blue. But

0:36:56.480 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's why Dennis ecorously said, I don't know, I

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>know it, but I don't know how to get in.

0:37:03.160 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how to get in. But when I'm

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>in it, I know I'm in. Yeah. Well, you're also

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>talking about being clutched, and they wanted the vaught the

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:10.920
<v Speaker 1>end of the game. I read this article in a

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>psychology magazine a while back where they did a study

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:16.279
<v Speaker 1>where there was an emergency and they judged how a

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>fake emergency and they judged how people responded to it,

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<v Speaker 1>and do people run to help or run to a

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.919
<v Speaker 1>way to save their own skin. And they said, that's

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<v Speaker 1>even though you've said on a lower level, it's similar

0:37:28.040 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in sports where the last shot, Yeah, I want the

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:32.239
<v Speaker 1>last shot, or I'm gonna get out of the way

0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:33.840
<v Speaker 1>because I don't want to be I'm gonna stand in

0:37:33.880 --> 0:37:35.600
<v Speaker 1>the background so I don't get the last shot. Well,

0:37:35.600 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>the guys would have alligator arms. That's you know, when

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>they didn't really want to take that last shot, so

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:43.600
<v Speaker 1>they arms got a little shorter there and they didn't

0:37:43.600 --> 0:37:46.400
<v Speaker 1>want to take it. I mean, it takes something inside

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.400
<v Speaker 1>of you that you're you're willing to risk that that

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you want that moment. Guys live for that moment. That's

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 1>why you always say you got to work the ball

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>to such and such. It's because they work for that

0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>moment and they the risk and the reward, they're fine

0:38:01.680 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>with them. We'll take a break. More phone calls coming

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<v Speaker 1>now back to the show. A couple of phone calls here,

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<v Speaker 1>Greg and Florida joins us on the program, Greg, what's

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>on your mind today? Hey, I got to hear some

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of your pickup game during the break. It was great, Um, Listen.

0:39:14.640 --> 0:39:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I played on the Mini Tours for a couple of

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.799
<v Speaker 1>years and to three years, and I hit about ten

0:39:20.000 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>jillion golf club and one one day I went out

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>in my shot at twenty seven on a front nine,

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 1>starting out with a hole in one. Wow. And I

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's good to your point, is what you're saying before.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I think it has a lot to do with hitting

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 1>a million shots doing what you're doing. But also it

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:36.879
<v Speaker 1>was an odd of body experience, so like I wasn't

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 1>doing much of anything. Yeah, and that's what guys who

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.000
<v Speaker 1>will talk about. Thanks for the phone call, Greg. When

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:43.920
<v Speaker 1>you ask somebody about hitting a home run, what does

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it feel like? And they go nothing like, it's it's effortless,

0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>whereas you know you can hit a broken bat single

0:39:50.200 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and you have it ringing through your hands. There's just

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 1>something effortless about this. And if it's a jump shot,

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>if it's making a tackle, guys will talk about the

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 1>perfect tackle, how's it feel and they just said, you know,

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:06.120
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else like it, but it's it's years and

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.839
<v Speaker 1>years and years of repetition though they come into play.

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Rolf in Texas joins us, Hey Rolf, what's on your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey Dan? Thanks for taking the call. I wanted to

0:40:15.880 --> 0:40:19.080
<v Speaker 1>do a follow up from last week call when I

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>was on a conference call with my team and my

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.240
<v Speaker 1>team members had his speaker off and was doing the show.

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>So I fly up to our corporate headquarters this week

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and we have a executive meeting this morning, so it's

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 1>been a full week. I'm sitting in a room with

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:39.280
<v Speaker 1>my peers. We have a conference call going. The music's

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>going just fine, normal conference call music. One of my

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.399
<v Speaker 1>peers looks at me and says, I thought that we

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>were getting Dan Patrick's show stream three and conference calls now.

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:53.799
<v Speaker 1>And I said, I didn't know. I didn't hear about that,

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and he goes, yeah, somebody said. So it went from

0:40:57.760 --> 0:41:01.000
<v Speaker 1>sixteen people on my team to now throughout the company

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:07.040
<v Speaker 1>people think that we're streaming the show. Well you should be, well,

0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:10.879
<v Speaker 1>what was funny to add to the coronavirus piece. We're

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:13.319
<v Speaker 1>taking it very seriously. We have lots of people to

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<v Speaker 1>travel around a lot of where, a lot of places,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>a lot of companies are shutting down non essential travel,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the guys goes, well, if we're not

0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>doing it now, we should because you know, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to shut down a lot of travel, and that might

0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>be you know, one of the good perks. And the

0:41:29.200 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>IT guys said, do not let people know that they

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 1>can stream on the corporate network because it will absolutely

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.520
<v Speaker 1>shut down our bandwood. Oh all right, yeah, well I'm

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm there for you. Roll. Thank you for the follow up.

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<v Speaker 1>There he caught one of his employees listening to the show. Well,

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:49.800
<v Speaker 1>we're at it. We can mention that everyone in American

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.560
<v Speaker 1>could watch our show while at work. I don't think

0:41:51.600 --> 0:41:55.359
<v Speaker 1>anyone should not avoid Yeah, I mean, I'm not I'm

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.640
<v Speaker 1>not hoping that you take down your company, but we're

0:41:57.680 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 1>not against it. I'm just hoping that you're able to

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>watch it. You have an understanding, boss, it's a YouTube

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>dot com slash the Dan Patrick Show. You know, it

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>feels like we're trying to do with a way with

0:42:12.400 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 1>the words, except for the Ohio State Golf Channel is

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:21.319
<v Speaker 1>not the golf channel. It's Golf Channel. It's not the

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Staples Center, it's Staples Center. Are we are we doing

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<v Speaker 1>away with the Yeah? See, so are you suggesting then

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.319
<v Speaker 1>that this should just be Dan Patrick Show, not the

0:42:30.440 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Dan Patrick Yeah. You know, NFL Network is not the

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.399
<v Speaker 1>NFL Network, it's NFL Network. But that's old school. It's

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 1>almost like we're we're counter now. Yeah, I didn't know,

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.319
<v Speaker 1>but you know when I the big german said, you know,

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>our YouTube channel is YouTube dot com slash the Dan

0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show, and I said, okay, why not just Dan

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Show. So when you close out the end of

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>the hour, stay right, you're coming up to a break here,

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 1>and you're just gonna say, coming up next, we've got

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>this stuff that we're gonna go do. That's all coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next on Dan Patrick Show. I would just stay

0:43:03.960 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>on the show usually say the Dan Patrick Show, or

0:43:08.680 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>this is the Dan Patrick that's what are your great

0:43:10.600 --> 0:43:14.279
<v Speaker 1>clothes out? This is Dan Patrick Show. Yeah, I mean

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:16.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine with it. I just had somebody say, why

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>why do you emphasize the Dan Patrick Show, like there's

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:22.279
<v Speaker 1>another Dan Patrick Show? And I went, I didn't give

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>any damn thought to this. I think there was actually

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if there still is. Oh it's more

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 1>political based. Oh no, that's a that's the attorney govern

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.439
<v Speaker 1>But he was a radio guy yes, he was. Yeah, yeah,

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>so that's this is the Dan Patrick Dan Patrick and

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<v Speaker 1>let's do th ch e y asked mclovin. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>these people wanted to save three letters in Twitter that

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 1>they started getting rid of the Is that? Remember people

0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:52.359
<v Speaker 1>are tweeting and they wanted to get all those, uh

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>whatever their conjunctions out. I don't know, Like somebody was

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.479
<v Speaker 1>at just asked me that, and I figured you guys

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<v Speaker 1>might know. Yeah. Remember the scene in the Social Network.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was it Social Network. Thus social Network.

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the Social network and where justin Timberlay's

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<v Speaker 1>character goes drop the just make it Facebook. Yeah, oh man, yeah,

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