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Speaker 1: with me, I got my guys Cecil Short, six year

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Speaker 1: NFL VET, Texans Legend Ambassador, and of course you got myself.

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Speaker 1: Wade Smith, Houston Texans, former Houston Texans twelve year NFL VET,

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Speaker 1: gave my best four years here to the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 1: and I tell you what, man, at three o'clock hour,

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Speaker 1: we got Mark Vanderman is gonna join us, the Voice

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Speaker 1: at that time as well too. But there's a lot

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Speaker 1: dividends for everybody around you on the roster, all of

428
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Speaker 1: the skill guys, they are the ones that reap the

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Speaker 1: benefit from continuity on the offensive line. And so Titus Howard,

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Speaker 1: I think it's extremely key that he does make a

431
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Speaker 1: huge jump. I expect him to take a huge jump.

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Speaker 1: But the guy that I feel like it's gonna take

433
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Speaker 1: the biggest jump from year one of YouTube it is

434
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Speaker 1: probably somebody that people might not really realize or recognize.

435
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Speaker 1: But to me, Charles, the mini you is gonna take

436
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Speaker 1: the biggest jump from year one to year two. Last season,

437
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Speaker 1: when I watched him play, he was half a step

438
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Speaker 1: away from making a ton of plays. Now he made

439
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Speaker 1: his fair share of plays. You remember the play made

440
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Speaker 1: against the Kancity Chief the first time he went up

441
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Speaker 1: there that caused the sack fumble, and that was a

442
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Speaker 1: big turning point in the game. And he made place

443
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Speaker 1: throughout the season, but there was you could see him

444
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Speaker 1: beating and winning those one on one matchups against offensive lineman,

445
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Speaker 1: but being half to step away. To me, this year,

446
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Speaker 1: he's gonna take a huge jump because he's gonna close

447
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Speaker 1: that gap. He's gonna be able to get home whereas

448
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Speaker 1: last year, who wouldn't have because his technique is going

449
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Speaker 1: to be more refined. Fine this year. I think the

450
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Speaker 1: fact that he's playing with the starters because JJ Watt

451
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Speaker 1: has not been practicing. He's been out there on the

452
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Speaker 1: field like he was out there today, and we'll talk

453
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Speaker 1: a little about Sean Pennergass and some of the notes

454
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Speaker 1: that he had from training camps practice this morning. But

455
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Speaker 1: you know the fact that JJ is not out there

456
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Speaker 1: getting those reps with the ones, that means that somebody's

457
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Speaker 1: got to take those reps. And Charles the Minihu's has

458
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Speaker 1: been out there taking those reps with the ones, and

459
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Speaker 1: from all reports, he's having the hell of a training

460
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Speaker 1: camp So for those reasons, I really think Charles the

461
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Speaker 1: minihu is gonna have a big set can year for

462
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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. I'm excited for him because we need more.

463
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 1: The Texans need more pass rush, they need more defensive line.

464
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 1: That front seven needs to be solidified just a little,

465
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Speaker 1: a little bit more. I think you have an all

466
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Speaker 1: star group at linebacker. Um, but with a few injuries

467
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Speaker 1: here and there, to have a guy like a mini

468
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Speaker 1: Hugh who's going into a second year here, if he

469
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Speaker 1: can step up and be the guy we're hoping he

470
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Speaker 1: can be, UM, that's gonna be a huge help. Do

471
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Speaker 1: you know who I want to see? Though? When I'm

472
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Speaker 1: always an offense decide, I can't help it. We want

473
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Speaker 1: we want to see from a rookie to a second

474
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Speaker 1: year because it's like it's kind of like this folk

475
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Speaker 1: tale about him, right, huh. I want to see Holly wearing.

476
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Speaker 1: I really want to see him explode on the scene.

477
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Speaker 1: Just remember him coming in. And I'm kind of biased

478
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Speaker 1: because we've got the same nation, but that that's that's

479
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Speaker 1: besides the point. Yeah, same, but we keep going. I'm

480
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Speaker 1: just um, I think he can be a really good

481
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Speaker 1: target for the Sean and the Texans are looking out

482
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Speaker 1: where it is Aikins looking awesome, right, Yeah, that Titan

483
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: group is looking deep going to the year three for

484
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Speaker 1: some of those guys. But if Kahli could stay healthy,

485
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Speaker 1: get on the field, learn his plays, improve on his blocking,

486
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Speaker 1: I think in the passing game he can be a

487
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Speaker 1: a zach Ertz ish type. I'm not saying he'll be

488
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Speaker 1: that good, but he can be a reliable target in

489
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Speaker 1: the passing. Yeah. The biggest thing for Kahili he's got

490
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Speaker 1: to get out there on the field. And he's got

491
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Speaker 1: there on the field, we gotta see it. In this league,

492
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Speaker 1: it is just show me. It is a prove it,

493
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: what can you do? What have you done for me

494
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Speaker 1: lately type of a league. It is not a league

495
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Speaker 1: that's built on potential. The potential can keep you around,

496
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: but it's not gonna get you on the field. And

497
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Speaker 1: so he's got to go out there and actually do it.

498
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Speaker 1: And if he does, if he can stay out in

499
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Speaker 1: the field, he has a lot of the tools. I

500
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Speaker 1: remember watching film on him when he came out of

501
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Speaker 1: the draft. When because the Texans, nobody really expected him

502
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Speaker 1: to take Blue, came out to Blue. So I looked

503
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: at tape on him like this. This kid looks like

504
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: he's got something and so but he has he's had

505
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Speaker 1: a hard time staying healthy. So that's a big thing

506
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Speaker 1: for him. He's got to stay healthy if he wants

507
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Speaker 1: to to to make that jump. Going back to Charles

508
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Speaker 1: and many of you, can you talk real quick about

509
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: how tough is it as an offensive guard or tackle

510
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Speaker 1: this office line period when you have fresh guys coming

511
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Speaker 1: in on the defensive line. So you got JJN okay,

512
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Speaker 1: take JJ out from maybe your play. You got many

513
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: of you coming in, you got done coming in. You

514
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: got this multiple guys coming in, they're coming in fresh.

515
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Speaker 1: What's type of pressure is that put on you? If any,

516
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Speaker 1: it's tremendous pressure, especially when the guys that are coming

517
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Speaker 1: in and have different skill sets, because now you mentally

518
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Speaker 1: have to recalibrate and figure out who am I blocking,

519
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: what is the down and distance, what's the situation, and

520
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Speaker 1: then how do I need to handle each one of them?

521
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Speaker 1: And if they're all different, it forces you to kind

522
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: of have to to to do your due diligence and

523
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Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, this play I'm going against Charles the

524
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 1: maning you, he's a longer guy. He's a guy that

525
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Speaker 1: has a quick first step. I got to make sure

526
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Speaker 1: that I get my feet and then get myself set

527
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Speaker 1: in a certain spot. Oh this time, now I got

528
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Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock coming at me, like, Oh, now this time,

529
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Speaker 1: I got Brandon Dunne coming in. Oh, I need to

530
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Speaker 1: make sure I set down for this bull because Brandon

531
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Speaker 1: Dunn's gonna try to run me over this Another play

532
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 1: I got, I got Angelo black coming at me, or

533
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: I have Carlos Watkins. And I think that's the reason

534
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: why the Texans built the defense the way they did,

535
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: so that they can have guys that can do a

536
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: variety of things that give offensive line and offensive linemen

537
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: issues to try to figure out here to their play

538
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: to play, what am I gonna get? And that's something

539
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: that you have to you gotta have to try to

540
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Speaker 1: figure out. And the fact that Charles the many you

541
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: his skill set lends you to believe that he's going

542
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: to get better and better. If you got a quick

543
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: first step, if you use your hands well, and you're long,

544
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: and you play, you have good play strength that causes

545
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: issues for offensive linement. And so I think that's what

546
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna see out of him for this upcoming season.

547
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: There's a couple other guys that I had on the

548
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: list that we really didn't get into. A guy like

549
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: Laramie Tumsel, like he had a he had a hell

550
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: of a year last year he had as far as

551
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: protecting the quarterback and keeping the Shauna Watson clean. He

552
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: puts you in a position to where you were comfortable

553
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: playing and play out knowing that this guy is gonna

554
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: be able to hold it down. But he had issues

555
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: with penalties last year. To me, I think the jump

556
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: for him is going to be eliminating a lot of

557
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: those penalties, the false starts, he had, a couple of

558
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: holding calls, things of that nature. I think that him

559
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: being the second year of his offense is going to

560
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: help him tremendously because he's gonna know what to expect

561
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: before the play is even snap, Before the ball is snap,

562
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna be seeing the same thing that Sean is

563
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: seeing and what Nick Martin is seeing as opposed to

564
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: him just kind of listening and waiting and hoping to

565
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: figure out what's going to happen next. And he shouldn't

566
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: have no false starts this year. With not too many

567
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: people being in the building. It shouldn't be, you know,

568
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good point. But honestly, he had

569
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Speaker 1: his most issues at home, really at home. And it

570
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: was the same thing when I played for the Texans.

571
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: Chris Myers was our center. Sometimes. I don't know if

572
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: it's an acoustics in the stadium or what, but the

573
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 1: crowd is normally not as loud when we have the ball,

574
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: of course, right, but when you're because of that, teams

575
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: will go on a vocal snap count because there's no

576
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: reason to go on a silent count because it's not

577
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: too loud, right, But because you're going on a vocal

578
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: snap count, now you're relying on the center snapping the

579
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Speaker 1: ball as soon as he hears it from the quarterback.

580
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Speaker 1: And if you're offensive lineman, hear the quarterback faster and

581
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Speaker 1: react faster than the ball is actually Now you got

582
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Speaker 1: now it looks like your guys are jumping offside, when

583
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Speaker 1: actually the reality your center is just a little bit late,

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Speaker 1: is in anticipating the snap count. And Chris Myers had

585
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: issues with that back. I believe it was in either

586
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: eleven or twelve, but it was somewhere around there. When

587
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: we were in our glory days of holding it down

588
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: and it's like, Myers, what the hell are you doing? Like,

589
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: come on, then snap the ball. Yeah, And so he's

590
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: but at the same time, the centers are making calls,

591
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: they're are just and so sometimes they don't hear it

592
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: as quick and so that's where the issues come in playing.

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Speaker 1: So when you mentioned that it's going to be quiet

594
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Speaker 1: in there, that might not necessarily be such a good thing,

595
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: and so they're going to have to figure it out.

596
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Speaker 1: But I think that the rest that they'll be getting

597
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Speaker 1: throughout this entire off season is going to help him

598
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Speaker 1: with that treminissy and that's gonna be a big deal

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Speaker 1: for him to make that jump from year one to

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Speaker 1: it would be nobody but Ceasil Shorts because he's been

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be in your second year in

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Speaker 1: this offense. A guy like Kenny Steele's a first year,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's gonna work out. Randall, cop like,

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Speaker 1: because I think that the big four, which is Cooks,

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Speaker 1: which is Fuller, which is not I put Cooks first, Cooks, Fuller,

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Speaker 1: They're just that they're that good that talent wise, so

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Speaker 1: eight days? Yeah, not really knowing what's going on. Biggest

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Speaker 1: think the Texas gotta steal with this. Kenny Steeles because

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Speaker 1: is a legitimate option. I don't put him as the

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Speaker 1: you know, where's he gonna fit in. I said, there's

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Speaker 1: Kiki QT. People that think remember what people thought about

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Speaker 1: Kenny Stills is a better football player than KEIKIQT right now.

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Speaker 1: And he went out there and showed that in Game one,

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Speaker 1: Kenny was and then Kenny going to the year two

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Speaker 1: most comfortable I felt in the offense. I understood everything,

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Speaker 1: I understood what was going on. The defense was moving slower.

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Speaker 1: I know exactly where Brock wanted me to be. It

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Speaker 1: had that connection, right. But it's so many guys within

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Speaker 1: of bring different things to the tape. Yet, Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: stick on Steals for a second. Steals can play inside

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Speaker 1: and outside. He can be a guy. If Cop goes down,

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Speaker 1: guess what you can put. You can put Steals inside

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Speaker 1: and be just as fine, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Or somebody gets hurt outside, guy forbid, you can put

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Speaker 1: Steals on the outside. He can be just fine. He's

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Speaker 1: that utility guy. He knows where he's supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, second year in offense, Randall Cobb, He's

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Speaker 1: somebody I'm I'm intrigued about because he can be Nobody

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Speaker 1: can replace the Hopkins, Yeah, but I think Cobb can

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Speaker 1: can have that that that trust factor would just shine

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Speaker 1: because in this offense, the slot receiver is so heavily

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Speaker 1: depended on from the hot standpoint, from protection standpoint, from

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Speaker 1: understanding the defense and what you have to do on

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Speaker 1: that on that particular play, you're not as a slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: You got to read the defense and understand. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: the shine's pointing that the outside linebacker, if he blitzes,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm hot. I gotta take two steps and

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Speaker 1: I'm turning around right now. If he doesn't blitz, okay,

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Speaker 1: I gotta see if his zone or man. Now, my

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Speaker 1: role changes. If his zone, my role changes if it's man.

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Speaker 1: It's just a lot that goes into it. So eventually,

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Speaker 1: I think he can be a guy that he can

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Speaker 1: depend on in crucial situations. How difficult is that connection

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Speaker 1: and being on the same page when it's the year

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Speaker 1: one of the offense, because Rental carb this is his

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Speaker 1: first year of being in this particular offense, and the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the receiver being on the same page with

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Speaker 1: what they're seeing out of the defense is tantamount in

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Speaker 1: this particular offense. How difficult do you think it will

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Speaker 1: be for Rental cob to get that down, especially under

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Speaker 1: come about. No, that's a good question. Because you had

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Speaker 1: different states in different areas. What's gonna be tough. But

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Speaker 1: for him, I think he has the age because with

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Speaker 1: if he comes, you're hide. If this happens, you're high,

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Speaker 1: so i gotta look at this and that, and I'm

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Speaker 1: studying for extra film. But he's been around. I think

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Speaker 1: the field and the short slat stuff. I think he

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Speaker 1: can be a huge factor um in this offense. And

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Speaker 1: then Cooks, we all know what Fuller can do. Right.

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Speaker 1: He'll be a potential a pro Bowl guy. Cooks is

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Speaker 1: you got two guys that can take the top off.

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Speaker 1: So you want to double will Fuller. Okay, we got

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Speaker 1: Brendon Cooks that can do that. You're gonna take the

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Speaker 1: We got still Was over the middle, you know what

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Speaker 1: to speed. Um, but I'm expecting Cobb to come along

852
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: as the season goes. And then Cooks, I'm gonna be

853
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: honest with you, he's not too much. He's not far

854
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: away from running a similar offense in New England. Yeah,

855
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: he kind of knows the system. I think the biggest

856
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: thing for him is getting timing down with Shaun and

857
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: now come over the next three weeks. But he's a

858
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: guy man. You're gonna be like, Okay, I see why

859
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: it's weird. He got traded a lot of things, like

860
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, he was he played with

861
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: Drew Breeses. And another thing about the Saints, you know,

862
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Cookson Steels played together for a little bit. Yeah, they

863
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: know what it's like to be the name, you know,

864
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: receiving cord. This is this is not the first, you

865
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then that's the biggest thing.

866
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: When you got guys that know their roles and they're

867
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: just here to win. Yeah, they want to eat. Don't

868
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: don't don't get don't get it wrong. Everybody, every receiver

869
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: wants the ball every play, but they can understand the

870
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: roles and be happy for each other and the former teammates.

871
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: That's that's a big deal. You're listening to the Texans

872
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: Training Camp special brought to you by Deffinity and hit

873
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Speaker 1: us on the on the text line seven one three five,

874
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: seven two four six ten. What do you what do

875
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: you expect to see out of the Houston Texans receiving

876
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: cords this year? Now, we talked about the top four guys.

877
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: See someone before we get to some of the depth

878
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: behind the depth that is on this roster. You mentioned

879
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: the last two guys, which was Brandon Cooks and Will Fuller.

880
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: Do we have two number one or will there be

881
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: a specific number one receiver that emerges on this roster?

882
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: And if you had to put your money on it,

883
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: which guy would that be? Oh, that's interesting. If I

884
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: put my money on it, I'll say Cooks is number one,

885
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: just off based off his resume, hasn't missed that many games,

886
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: Mart five, I want to say five years at one

887
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: point in a row he had or four years and row.

888
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: He had a thousand yards seasons. Yeah, he had one

889
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, he had one in New England. I

890
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: think he had two in two in LA. Or maybe

891
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: it was two two in New Orleans, one in New England,

892
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: one in LA. And then last year he kind of

893
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: had a down year, but their entire offense had it.

894
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: I think I think Brandon Cooks issues last year more

895
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: had to do with the Rams offensive line and the

896
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: issues they had. The quarterback didn't have time to do

897
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: what he had did in years pass and the running

898
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: game wasn't what it was, and so he didn't get

899
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: the amount of touches and the amount of yards that

900
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: you normally with Seattle Brandon Cooks. But you're right, he

901
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: is a He is a guy is he can trip

902
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: and fall and get you a thousand yards to receive

903
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: in this NFL. That's that's the caliber receiver you have

904
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: a Brandon Cooks, And for me, I can't. I think

905
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: Fuller has the potential to be the number one, the

906
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 1: talent to be number one, but I can't call him

907
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: a number one until he plays a certain amount of

908
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: games consistently. You know what I mean. We can't do

909
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: because number one number one guy, somebody you depending on

910
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: weekend and week out, and I'm just not there all

911
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: the way yet with Fuller talent wise, yes, absolutely, but

912
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: he yes, he got to stay on the field, you

913
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yes, I think you potentially

914
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: have two number one, but Cookers you're one, Fullers you're two.

915
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: And then you got Cobb and Steals right there that

916
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: can that can do anything. Um Steals especially, he can

917
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: play inside and play outside. I wouldn't be surprised if

918
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: you see like ten personnel which is four wide receivers.

919
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: Wouldn't be surprised if you see empty with Duke Johnson

920
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: in there or David in there. You know what I mean.

921
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: It's so much you can do with these guys. It's

922
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. And then you can't

923
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: key on nobody. I think last few years with the Shane,

924
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: you knew in trouble where he was going with the ball,

925
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: and hop was so good it didn't matter like you

926
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: knew he was getting it. I mean fourth and three,

927
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I heard you and Landry talking boy like he was

928
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: a safety blanket. Right. He was the guy they went

929
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: to no matter what it was. At seventy thirty everybody's

930
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: covered him. Go to hop it's fourth and three in

931
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: Kansas City, when first down, to win the game, Hop

932
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: to get open when worst comes the worst, I can

933
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: throw it a tin and I know it's gonna work,

934
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: and you know what's gonna work out. Now, you don't

935
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: have that, but you got multiple guys that are going

936
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: to be in positions where Okay, the Deacons has played

937
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: more true, yeah, you might get a little more man

938
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: or whatevery case may be, so guys can work their

939
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: skill set and get open. Do you do you see

940
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: a scenario this year where there is one receiver that

941
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: emerges as that third down the Liabele guy, even though

942
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: he might not be you know, he's not gonna get

943
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: the targets that DeAndre Hopkins got last year. But do

944
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: you see there being a scenario where one of those

945
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: guys emerges is this is my third down, third down

946
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: security blanket. This is the guy that I go to

947
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: when I know I'm gonna need to convert and get

948
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: this first down. I think it's between Cobb and Cooks.

949
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Man Cooks because he knows where to be, he understands

950
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: the offense, He's been there before. Um Cobb just because

951
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: of his relationship with Aaron Rodger and him playing in

952
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: big games and big moments. Those two guys been to

953
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. Those two guys played with multiple Hall

954
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterbacks. Those two guys had the most experience,

955
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: how if anybody else in the receiving room with playing

956
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,959
Speaker 1: in big games and big moments. So I like those

957
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: two guys, even though they're new, could really step up

958
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: and be the shines. Okay, third down and big play

959
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: moment here it is here, it is here, it is Yeah.

960
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: I think the way that this offense is set up,

961
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: Man's set up for your the guys that are working

962
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: between the hashes to be your convert on third down guys. Right,

963
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: So to me that means that Reynald Cobb is going

964
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: to be the first up and to me, he's going

965
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: to have a big year as far as being the

966
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: one that converts on third down. If I had to

967
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: pick one guy that's gonna emerge in that role to

968
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: be that security blanket, to be the old school Owen

969
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Daniels for the Houston Texans, but not the actual, you know,

970
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: actually tight end, but a receiver that fits that role.

971
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: And you gotta look at think about Wes Welker and Edelman,

972
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: guys like that that just destroyed the slot for years

973
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: and years in New England. I figured that the reason

974
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: why they went out there and gave Randall cor But

975
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: they gave them just because they needed a guy they

976
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: could depend on to be in that role for the

977
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: Texas and so I expected that that that will be

978
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: the guy that emerges Randall car. Now we haven't talked

979
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: about the backups yet. The guys that that in years

980
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: past were starters, but now they're fighting for a job. Man,

981
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: you got Keqqt, you got DeAndre Carter, you got Stevie Mitchell,

982
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: you got guys like Chad Hanson. They've just just emerged

983
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: out of the blue that are fighting for the last

984
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: couple of UH spots on this roster. How do you

985
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: think that's gonna end up shaking out? You don't even

986
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: mention Isaiah culture the draft, Yeah, the rookie. Yet he's

987
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna you know, you figured he's gonna be there. It's

988
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting because you know it's it's always a

989
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: numbers game, right, So you figured the big four and

990
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: then Isaiah that's five right there. So do they keep six?

991
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: Do they keep or I don't see them going seven,

992
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: but I can see them going under six, if that

993
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: makes sense, because you look at if you keep six. Okay,

994
00:47:58,280 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: what gods are gonna play special teams? Well, you just

995
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: drafted a cornerback and John Reid cornerback nickelback. Guess what

996
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: he returns punts and kicks, So guess what he can

997
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: do the same thing Keiki and DeAndre can do. Yeah,

998
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You have a guy and

999
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: steals who can play inside outside, you have Cops's gonna

1000
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: be your starter. It's like, all right, who can bring

1001
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: the most to the table? You know, Keki, I'm not

1002
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: sure you know, I believe I just heard on the

1003
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: promo he wasn't didn't practice a day or two and

1004
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 1: you know, not getting the rest behind Cob. It's gonna

1005
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: be tough, man. It's gonna be extremely hard to be

1006
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: a receiver and make this roster. Hansen Um a third

1007
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: year guy, I want to say, second or third year

1008
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: guy from University of Kyle, making play after play after

1009
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: play in practice. He looks different out there too, not

1010
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: for the obvious reason, but he looks different because he

1011
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 1: is a big receiver. Yeah, he's a big when I

1012
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: was looking at the little I was looking at a

1013
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: little clip that somebody posted on Twitter, but I don't

1014
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 1: know if it was. It might have been John Harris

1015
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,240
Speaker 1: or maybe it was maybe with Sean Pennergass or somebody

1016
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: posted the clip. And I'm looking him like, this guy

1017
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: looks smooth, he's nice with and he's a big body.

1018
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: And they don't have that many big bodies with this

1019
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: receiving cart around. Now he's him And as a coach

1020
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: told her, the only really big guys. And I think,

1021
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: if you look at it from that standpoint, those two

1022
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: guys got the upper hand because those are the bigger

1023
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: body guys that bring something different to the table than

1024
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: what you already have. Because we talked about the off air,

1025
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: full is your biggest receiver right now, and that's the

1026
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: biggest the top four. That's that's the biggest guy you got.

1027
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, all right, and you know

1028
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to special teams. What can you do?

1029
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: Can you run down, don't kick off? Can you return?

1030
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: Can you when we put you in? Can we trust

1031
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: you to make plays? And guess what? This is Hanson's

1032
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: second year in the offense. Hanson is making plays because

1033
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: guess what, he's comfortable, he knows the offense, he's been

1034
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: in this system. He's okay, I know what to do,

1035
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: I know what to expect. And he also was with

1036
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: the Shawne this summer too, getting chemistry going on. So

1037
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what the bottom

1038
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: half of this receiver death does. So that's the thing, man,

1039
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: when you talk about the bottom half of any position group,

1040
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: but especially in this office offense, and you're talking about

1041
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: the receiver group, they want guys that are dependable. They

1042
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: want guys that they know where they're supposed to be,

1043
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: that understand the who when while we what and and

1044
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: and where? And these are the these are the things

1045
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: that they're competing with each other on, Like, are you

1046
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: able to go out there and show up and practice

1047
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: each and the every day and be where you're supposed

1048
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: to be and make the plays that are afforded to you.

1049
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: That's the guys that's gonna end up winning that position battle.

1050
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: And all four of those guys that we mentioned, all

1051
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: five of them legitimate, And I'm not gonna put as

1052
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: a Coulter in the mix because he just got drafted.

1053
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: Those guys rarely get cut in their first draft. But

1054
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: when you got Kikiqt, DeAndre Carter, Chad Hanson, Stevie Mitchell.

1055
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: We really didn't get into Steven Mitchell, but he's been

1056
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: he's had a hell of a training camp like all

1057
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: of these guys. You know, if you're missing practice, you

1058
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: start to fall behind the waistlide. And so that that's

1059
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: gonna be huge to see who can make it through

1060
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: this week. Because I call this week right now, this

1061
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Speaker 1: is separation week right now, because you're two and a

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Speaker 1: about everything is gonna be tuned and turned towards Kansas

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Speaker 1: Well that's out of the wayside. When you when you're

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Speaker 1: already gonna be decided, They're gonna they're gonna that's gonna

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Speaker 1: is bringing back memories right now. Yeah. You know, I

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Speaker 1: uh DeAndre, it's like you said, it's crucial. It's crunch time.

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Speaker 1: You're right. It's two and a half weeks from game

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Speaker 1: September tenth. Yeah. Yeah, And there's no preseason, there's no

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna let you think on that because we're

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Speaker 1: to kids or whatever. It's so cool that part of it.

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Speaker 1: The way we've organized this so socially distanced. You can

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01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: still reach out to the fans, but I miss having

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01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: the fans there. You guys know, well, tell me how

1272
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: great is it in the ninety five degree heat to

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01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: have some fans supporting you to kind of keep you

1274
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: going in those moments. I mean that those are tough moments.

1275
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 1: They don't have that right now as far as live fans,

1276
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: and I gotta think that's a little bit of a

1277
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: factor if nothing else. Yeah, i'd tell you what. After

1278
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 1: the first week or so, you're like, all right, I'm tired.

1279
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: He's starting getting little sore here and there. But to

1280
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: have the fans, they're cheering you on every little thing.

1281
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: You might catch a punt, yeah, you know, I tackle

1282
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 1: with something or oh it gets you going a little bit.

1283
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: So it feels good to have. It's like a like

1284
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: a support system out there to still cheer you wanting

1285
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: and help get you going. It feels good. Yeah, I

1286
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: tell you what, man, There's there's been times that they

1287
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: might have family night. Now every year there's a night

1288
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: that you know, your wife and kids can come out

1289
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: there if you're old enough to have a wife and kids.

1290
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: When I was with the Texans, I was a vet veterans,

1291
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, seven, eight year, nine nine years in the league.

1292
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: So I had a wife and kids, and so they

1293
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: would come up and get to go see Toro after

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: practice and take pictures with him. I have a picture

1295
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 1: of my daughter that's six two now, but she was

1296
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: probably four foot four then hugging Toro after practice, and

1297
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,439
Speaker 1: it's like those moments. You know, you can't really replicate those.

1298
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: And so the fact that now these guys don't have

1299
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: that forum, I know, it's got to be a little

1300
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: bit difficult. It's like one of those things where you

1301
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 1: miss it. But the way players work were so adaptable

1302
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: to whatever situation is presented in front of us that

1303
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: I think guys that just kind of forget about that

1304
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 1: part of it and just say, hey, I gotta go

1305
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 1: out here and make the team. I gotta go out

1306
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: here and do my job out to go out of

1307
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: here and get ready to play against Kann City Chiefs.

1308
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: You know, I think that in all walks of life,

1309
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people can identified this.

1310
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: No matter what you do for a living. In some

1311
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: ways you feel closer to people being on zoom call

1312
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: and everything, and the fact that you have to communicate well,

1313
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: otherwise you're you'll die, you know, in a business sense,

1314
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 1: And I think that and you know, maybe literally too.

1315
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: In some cases, you really have to do a great

1316
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 1: job communicating. And so I think that that's apparent with

1317
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: this group. They look tight, guys. I mean when you

1318
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: see them jarring back and forth and look, I know

1319
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: that's ramped up over the years more and more. But

1320
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: this year andre Ware came out to a practice and

1321
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: he said, I don't remember them ever being this this vocal.

1322
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: You know, they're so vocal all sides of you know,

1323
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, all position groups, and I

1324
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: think that that says something, you know, so, uh, the

1325
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: communications there, the way you have to step up in

1326
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: this environment. To your point, Wait, I think that does

1327
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: say something. So we'll see what it means on the field,

1328
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: because everybody's having to do it and some will do

1329
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: it better than others. And then you get to the field,

1330
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: you get to these games, and we'll see who responds.

1331
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: But without any preseason games, joint practices, I think it's

1332
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: such a huge factor. Said it before, it's unprecedented in

1333
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: the history of the National Football League. You've never had

1334
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: no so called exhibition games. You have for the one

1335
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: hundred year history of this league. I mean even back

1336
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: in the twenties they did it. So it's a very

1337
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: different deal going on right now in the NFL. Then

1338
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: you mentioned the zoom calls after practice. I was on

1339
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: a few of those last week and guys were carrying

1340
01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: like stuff off the field with them. Do you know

1341
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: any details for the fan that may not have seen

1342
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: some of the guys you know on the zoom call

1343
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: or what are some of the details of like the

1344
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: protocols they have to have when they come on and

1345
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: off the field. They have to all right, so when

1346
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: they show up in the morning, they go right I

1347
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: believe this is the case. They go right to the bubble.

1348
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, they might get outfitted, but they go right

1349
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 1: to the bubble to meet, so they'll meet in their gear.

1350
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 1: You know, you guys probably met in all the little

1351
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: meeting breakdown rooms, but those aren't distanced. So they've changed

1352
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: the way they do it. They have areas in the

1353
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: bubble where they meet and then they do I believe

1354
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: some of the activation, maybe a walkthrough in the bubble,

1355
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: and then they come out and they do their formal

1356
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: activation and they practice. So there are certain things that

1357
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: are different, and they carry their stuff, you know, back

1358
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: to the locker room or whatever to get washed. But

1359
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 1: they spend less time in the building than ever. They

1360
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: spend more time in the bubble and the Huston Methodist

1361
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: Training Center and getting their work done that way. On

1362
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: and off the field. The building is so strange that

1363
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: they completely redid the hallways, the service level downstairs. It's

1364
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: all finished, and I think they were going to do

1365
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: some of that anyway, but they did a whole lot

1366
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 1: more of that, and you wouldn't recognize some of the

1367
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: facial recognition doors and everything, even for those who aren't

1368
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: in the so called restricted area. There's a restricted area

1369
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 1: where only team personnel can go. Players, coaches, support staff,

1370
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: and some of the quote Tier two people like John

1371
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: Harris is in there. We have a couple of video guys,

1372
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: you have PR but that's it. Everybody else has to

1373
01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,440
Speaker 1: stay away. You're gonna stay on the east side of

1374
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: the building, which is, you know, really not usually where

1375
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: you walk to work if you're parking the loading dock

1376
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: the north section. I guess I've been into esoteric here,

1377
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: but they've done a remarkable job of isolating the football

1378
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: people so they know what they're dealing with. They get

1379
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: tested every day, and the word is you just go home.

1380
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean you're not You're not instructed to go out

1381
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 1: to large gatherings exactly. You know, they want you to

1382
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: go home, be careful, don't contract the virus, and do

1383
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: the best you can not to contract the virus. And

1384
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,520
Speaker 1: as you know, zero positive positive so far reportedly for

1385
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: the Texans, and the league has an incredibly small amount

1386
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: of positives, which I think is a different kind of positive,

1387
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 1: a very good positive for everybody as we get closer

1388
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: to the regular season. Yeah, excuse me, Mark, you mentioned

1389
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: the type of the fact that the Texans have messed

1390
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 1: around and had no positive tests over this time period,

1391
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: which is a beautiful job done by the players and

1392
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: just the organization in general. You saw it, and maybe

1393
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: you haven't seen, but there's reports out of New Jersey

1394
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: that there was three different NFL teams that had a

1395
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: bunch of false positives. Today. How important do you think

1396
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 1: it is or how how awesome is it? Just set

1397
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 1: up over with the Houston Texans that they do their

1398
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: testing on site and then they send it like two

1399
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 1: miles away to get the results. So there's not the

1400
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: issues that maybe some of the other teams are having

1401
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 1: to deal with. You know, I don't have all the stories,

1402
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there are so many about medical advantages

1403
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: of being here, of having the stadium so close to

1404
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: the medical center, to the greatest medical center in the world,

1405
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: and the science in this city really all over the

1406
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: city being able to take advantage of that in this situation.

1407
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: I mean, remember Gary Kubiak in twenty thirteen when he

1408
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 1: went down at the half with the so called mini

1409
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: stroke and they were able to use this treatment on

1410
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: him because they got him to the hospital so fast,

1411
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: and that can't happen other places. I mean, maybe a few,

1412
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: but it's a unique thing about Houston and it really

1413
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 1: helped out Gary. And there have been numerous other times

1414
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: when people get hurt and because the hospitals are so

1415
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: close Methodist, obviously they're able to take advantage of that.

1416
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: And I think it speaks volumes about Houston about the

1417
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 1: advantage of living here, being here, having an NFL team here,

1418
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: and the false positives. I mean, that's terrifying to me

1419
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: from a pure football standpoint of what if you get

1420
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 1: that near game day. I mean, you got to be

1421
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 1: able to test multiple times because I know people who

1422
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: had tested positive and they swear they didn't have it.

1423
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 1: They go back a couple of days later and they don't.

1424
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, did they get over it or was it

1425
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: a false positive. It's you know, not with the Texans,

1426
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: by the way, this is other walks of life. So

1427
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: you just wonder about those kinds of things. But the

1428
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 1: fact that you test every day, I think you're getting

1429
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: a really good look at what your team is like,

1430
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: what your personnel, what they're like healthwise, and if they've

1431
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: contracted the virus or not. So, you know, I think

1432
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: that things are going knock woodwood very well. So far.

1433
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: We're not into the games yet, but if everybody does

1434
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,759
Speaker 1: their thing, all thirty two teams teams. I know, travel

1435
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,640
Speaker 1: has some risks to it. There's no question being in

1436
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: a hotel, but those hotels are gonna be fumigated, lockdown

1437
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 1: as best they possibly can. And I think once the

1438
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 1: teams start butting heads on the playing field, you should

1439
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: be okay. If they're okay and you're okay, then nobody's

1440
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: contracting anything. You're just playing football at that point. Just

1441
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: playing football at that point. So let's hope it goes well,

1442
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:24,680
Speaker 1: we're talking about the players a lot. What about the

1443
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: coaches from from your your assumption, your opinion, your observations,

1444
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 1: How do you think they're handling this and do they

1445
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: like this better? As far as not having to, you know,

1446
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: make a small game plan for week one, preseason week two,

1447
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 1: preseason week three, just worrying on in house, focused on

1448
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: your guys, who's going to make the team, focus on

1449
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: your health, and then on week one. You know, that's

1450
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: a great question, Cecil, because the preseason games, I know

1451
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: they want to see some of the younger guys in action,

1452
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:56,880
Speaker 1: but you only only have eighty right now. If you

1453
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: had ninety, I think I understand why they did it.

1454
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: Ninety would feel like too many. It's funny watching this

1455
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: camp because it does feel like a lot less even

1456
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 1: though it's ten less. You notice it. I notice it

1457
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: because those last ten players are undrafted rookies or people

1458
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm just learning their names, and I gotta get ready

1459
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: because the preseason games are gonna happen, and they get

1460
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: a lot of action in the second halves of those games,

1461
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: and game four you know what that's like. So it's

1462
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: really weird. I think the coaches have to like some

1463
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: of that the fact that, hey, it's just Austin the

1464
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: players for six weeks whatever the total amount of time

1465
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: is going to be, and then we're gonna play some football.

1466
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: But you know how they are, they would love to

1467
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 1: have a little test drive. You'd want something to see

1468
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 1: how you measure up against someone else, anybody else. You know,

1469
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,759
Speaker 1: you're going number ones against the number ones offense and defense.

1470
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: A lot here, a lot of that has been going on.

1471
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 1: I talked to Whitney today and Whitney said, listen, it

1472
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: would be good to go against somebody else because they

1473
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: know all of my moves right now. You know, they

1474
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: know everything I'm gonna throw at them in a pass rush.

1475
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: I really need to. I really need to pick another

1476
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: opponent at this point. So I think they would like

1477
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: some of that. But you know they they're dealing with it.

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Speaker 1: And it's more like college, isn't it. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: not like Mount Union Cecil because at Mount Union you

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Speaker 1: can play you know what, you have two hundred players,

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Speaker 1: so you're probably had like five other teams you can

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Speaker 1: play right on campus. Yea totally different. I'll tell you what. Man,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned that the coaches in some respects they're lacking

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Speaker 1: the way that it's set up right now. But the

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Speaker 1: fact of the matter is we're two and a half

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Speaker 1: weeks away from playing against the Kansas City Chiefs. Is

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Speaker 1: how important do you think this week is for those

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Speaker 1: back end of the roster guys that are fighting for

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Speaker 1: roles because I would think that about nine eight nine

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Speaker 1: So how important do you think this particularly week is

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Speaker 1: for those guys. I think it's the week and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do another scrimmage. They did one last I think

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Speaker 1: it was Thursday. They'll do another one and it'll be

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Speaker 1: really interesting because that'll be, I believe, more like the

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Speaker 1: fourth preseason game. That'll be the last house on the

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Speaker 1: fifty seven man roster. To the coaches like if I

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Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster member. Okay, that's too bad

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Speaker 1: for those four players, but it's also good for those

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Speaker 1: and you'll be able to take advantage of that and

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Speaker 1: play some football. I think it's a huge week way,

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Speaker 1: And I think it's a great question because you guys

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Speaker 1: or maybe just you know, you're you're a solid contributor,

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Speaker 1: the evening. Let's be honest. Well, they always divided up

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Speaker 1: all right, these guys are gonna get ready to play

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Speaker 1: on a decent showing. So I think you're right, this

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Speaker 1: game planning and all that, but I think you go

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Speaker 1: And the other factor is this, It's a Thursday nighter. Right,

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Speaker 1: Well when does that occur? Now? A little bit earlier

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Speaker 1: gonna go into that mode very quickly here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: is at training camp. Welcome back to the Texans Training

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Speaker 1: Camp Specially this is the Texans Training Camp Special presented

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Speaker 1: by xdentity got the voice of the Texans Mark VanderMeer

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Speaker 1: on the line as well as of course, we got

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Speaker 1: Sail Shorts hosted hosting the show with me for the

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Speaker 1: next couple of hours. And I tease the hypothetical that

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Speaker 1: I run across on Twitter the other day, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to get Cecil and Mark's input and also get

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Speaker 1: you guys. So Donnie Druin, who was a contributor on

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Speaker 1: The question goes like this, you get three carries in

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Speaker 1: the NFL game, how many yards do you think that

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Speaker 1: you're gaining? Now? To bring it back home, let's say

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Speaker 1: old line for the Houston Texans. How many yards are

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Speaker 1: you gonna get if you get three carries? Its first

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Speaker 1: and ten? Vandy, how many yards are you gonna get? Behind?

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Speaker 1: Zach Fulton, Nick Martin, Larrymy Tunsil, Max Sharping and tightest Howard, Wait,

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Speaker 1: you mean me carrying the football personal a yes, the

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Speaker 1: voice of the Texans. Strap it up, put on the shoulder,

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Speaker 1: pads in the helmet. Oh yeah, this is full This

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Speaker 1: is real. This is real deal. It is first and

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Speaker 1: ten and you can you can figure out what formation

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But if you get three shots

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Speaker 1: at it, how many yards are you inna game? And

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Speaker 1: what is gonna be the result physically and mentally for

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Speaker 1: you after walk over? Well, hospitalization will be the result.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not sure how long it could be forever?

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Speaker 1: How about this though? I love this question because you

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Speaker 1: know some fans are listening to this thinking, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: Cecil could get some yards, there's no doubt, because Cecil's

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Speaker 1: a pro football player X. But for the lay person listening,

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Speaker 1: you're not getting squat. Okay, you're gonna be brought down.

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Speaker 1: You'll be lucky to get the ball in your hands,

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Speaker 1: even with great blocking. Because what people don't understand is

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Speaker 1: long time. Every once in a while in my life.

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01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: I've been on the court with some really good players,

1687
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, guys who guys who played maybe pro ball,

1688
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 1: overseas or whatever. I played in the Rockets three on

1689
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: three and once Clyde Drexler was playing on the opposing team.

1690
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: The Rockets team had Clyde Drexler. I'm thinking, is this fair?

1691
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: But what you don't notice? What you do notice it,

1692
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: But it's all relative because you're watching a professional sports

1693
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: contest where everybody's got speed. If you go out there

1694
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: with those guys, you're going down hard. It is not

1695
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty. I know I'll get nothing. You know

1696
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,679
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do, though, I'm gonna tell Watson listen,

1697
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,680
Speaker 1: flee flicker. I'm gonna toss it back to you. You

1698
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 1: just chuck it down field. Okay, this is this is

1699
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: just a flee flicker. Yeah, I'll be lucky to get

1700
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: them all back to them. See Van, I feel like

1701
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 1: you're selling yourself short man. I feel like you can

1702
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: get a couple of yards if you put your foot

1703
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,360
Speaker 1: in the ground and getting with the stuff, you can

1704
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 1: get a couple of yards to the cecil. Where do

1705
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: you stand on? I'll let you know how I feel

1706
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: about it in the second. But how do you figure

1707
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:41,760
Speaker 1: it to work out for you? If you're running behind

1708
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:44,519
Speaker 1: this Texan's offensive line? This is the second year, and

1709
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: you know coming back, the continuity is there. Those guys

1710
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: had a good year last year. You expect them to

1711
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 1: have an even better year this year. How many yards

1712
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: are you getting behind this Texan's offensive line? Now? Are

1713
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: where are we on the field? Are gone? You take

1714
01:25:01,360 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: the situation. It could be first and twenty. It could

1715
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: be first, first and ten from the twenty yard line.

1716
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 1: It could be first and ten from the fifty yard line.

1717
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You can be backed up,

1718
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: you can be coming out whatever you want to, however

1719
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: you want to make it. But it's first and ten

1720
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,879
Speaker 1: and you have an opportunity to get three straight carries.

1721
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 1: Now you're not getting any breaks in between. Its three

1722
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: straight carries, Oh boy, three straight three straight carriers? Yeah,

1723
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: I'm ten pounds harrier than what I was. That that

1724
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: may help. I might need it. Yeah, hang, I wish

1725
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: this was some years ago. I did a little wildcat.

1726
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 1: I can run a little bit in between tackles when

1727
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: I was playing. So now, okay, I need I need.

1728
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: I need like four wide in the game. I need

1729
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 1: the guy spread out because I need and I don't

1730
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: want to. I don't want the hitters in five guys

1731
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:50,439
Speaker 1: wanting a box. Okay, the best chance. Let me get

1732
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,760
Speaker 1: to be the best chance. Um, I'm hoping it's like

1733
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:56,600
Speaker 1: first and twenty so that they're backing up, they're not

1734
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: expecting too much. I like where your heads. That makes

1735
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 1: a lot of give me some room, and I'm hoping

1736
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 1: we can just get this. Let me think, if I

1737
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: find three carries back to back to back, can we

1738
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 1: cannot take a knee in between like a break? No,

1739
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 1: we're not taking knees now. Now you're now you're per

1740
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 1: carry is gonna drop to minutes? Now you're right. Let

1741
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 1: let's say let's say now you might could call a

1742
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: time out. That's a great point by Vandy. Maybe called Yeah,

1743
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna need all three time out of going back

1744
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: to back back coachurally happy I can get I can

1745
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: give you seven yards, six yards maybe, okay, one it's

1746
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna come from one carry, though, it's gonna be like

1747
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,360
Speaker 1: one good burst up boom, I get tackled, and then

1748
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 1: that's that's probably it, because I'm yeah, that would be

1749
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: a six six seven yards. But that's that's that's pushing it,

1750
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: to be honest. See, that's pushing it. We are on

1751
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: the exact same page. And even though I'm I'm I'm

1752
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: much heavier than you are and I'm much slower than

1753
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: you are. Cecil. I have had some experience in my

1754
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: day of playing running back in practice. When I was

1755
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: playing for the New York Jets, I had to play

1756
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: running back in practice for real period, right, and so

1757
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 1: for drill period where it's like half line, and so

1758
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: they had offensive line and they actually gave us opportunities

1759
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: to carry the ball, and so you're knowing how to

1760
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 1: read the block and put your foot in the ground

1761
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: and get north and south. I had plenty of carries

1762
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: doing that. And this is in the middle training camp.

1763
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 1: You're tired, you're beat up in your three hundred and

1764
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 1: some pounds. I feel like now that I could get

1765
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 1: you a legit, seven yards on three carries. Now, after

1766
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 1: it's over, I'm gonna immediately need to get a NIE scope. Yeah,

1767
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna. I'm gonna need to. I'm following for that

1768
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 1: and I'm out for the year. You know what I mean, y'all.

1769
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: You can't get anything out of out of me after

1770
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:42,519
Speaker 1: those three carries. But if you put me in a

1771
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,560
Speaker 1: situation where you put me in this, I need to

1772
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: be understander. We're understanding. I'm gonna be in a single back.

1773
01:27:46,840 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Give me a tight end to my right, but I

1774
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 1: got three wide receivers, you know what I mean, and

1775
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 1: then I got Darren Fails blocking for me. At the

1776
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 1: point of attack on the right side. I'm gonna run

1777
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: it to the right. Now. You said this can be

1778
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: any situation, right, yeah you can. So can this be

1779
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,639
Speaker 1: the worth preseason game? North fift to the guys, We're

1780
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,120
Speaker 1: not doing okay? No, we we gotta we gotta got

1781
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: the starters out there that may not be. That's the

1782
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: whole point. This is this. And I'm not gonna put

1783
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 1: you up against like a anything like that. I'm not

1784
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: gonna put you against I'm not gonna put you up

1785
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: against the Bengals right now because I got DJ reader

1786
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 1: and can we can we can we play wildcat so

1787
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 1: it can be his zone read You can read it,

1788
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: but you automatic gifts though it's it's kind of like

1789
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: theres no reading. There is no reading because you gotta

1790
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,599
Speaker 1: you gotta get the ball three straight carries. You guys

1791
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: have to see Richard prior to the bit, because he

1792
01:28:37,520 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: really did this. He did an exhibition with Muhammad Ali

1793
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: and he said he's looking across the ring and all

1794
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 1: he's giving him this mean face and talking to him,

1795
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: and he's like, does he know what's an exhibition like you?

1796
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: And he says he gets out there at the ring,

1797
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: they ring the bell and Ali just goes, you know,

1798
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,280
Speaker 1: just gives him a few air punches. And he said,

1799
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: you don't see the punch until he's pulling it back.

1800
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: It's so fast. And he said, uh, he almost dropped

1801
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 1: right there, even though Ali didn't even hit him. It's like,

1802
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, these guys are unbelievable. Like I said, but

1803
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 1: you see, you guys having played professional football, you're gonna

1804
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 1: get some yards. You're gonna get some yards. You gotta

1805
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 1: fall Foard goal. You know what I mean? If you Yeah,

1806
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,559
Speaker 1: all of that. You understand the offensive line. If all

1807
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,559
Speaker 1: they have to do is nat get beat, you're gonna

1808
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: get some yardage. And if I mean there's there's some

1809
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 1: there's some softness in the defense always and so I

1810
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: think you could be able to get some yards. Now,

1811
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: just to do a little twist to this right here,

1812
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: what if you put some of some current out of

1813
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 1: position Texans running behind this offensive line so like and

1814
01:29:38,200 --> 01:29:40,600
Speaker 1: we'll go rapid fire. If J. J. Watt was to

1815
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: get three straight carries behind this offensive line, how many

1816
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: yards is he getting? Nine? Nine? What do you guys

1817
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: at the first Now Brandon Cooks, Oh, he's he's gonna

1818
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,960
Speaker 1: go around the end. He might he might have got

1819
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,599
Speaker 1: twenty five yard gaining at LEAs go to the house. Yeah,

1820
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Zach saw him today. By the way, if you want

1821
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: to talk about him eventually in this program, Uh, well,

1822
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: who is the other guy? Zach? Kind of Zach could

1823
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: do some damage. I think he's pretty high up though.

1824
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 1: He's got that you know, you don't have to run

1825
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,400
Speaker 1: like Dickerson, you know, hope he could just hop over people.

1826
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I need to know Zack's history. I

1827
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: don't know about Zach Zach McKinney. I don't. I don't

1828
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 1: know Charles the Manihu, you know, another big guy. I

1829
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: think it's tough, but I think he'll move the pile.

1830
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: He'll get positive yards, Yeah, positive yards. Will he beat

1831
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,360
Speaker 1: my seven yards? They gotta beat They all gotta beat

1832
01:30:27,400 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 1: my seven yar I hope. So they're probably they're they're

1833
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 1: in the game now. I mean, you're right, you're right,

1834
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: Darren Phills out of the last one I threw out there,

1835
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: Darren Phils, how many yards? He's huge? Man. The thing is,

1836
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: if he's running the ball, that means he's not blocking,

1837
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: so somebody else is black. Maybe he can cut back,

1838
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,800
Speaker 1: maybe you can runner. See there you go. I mean

1839
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:50,680
Speaker 1: I think I watched Charles James catch a toss and

1840
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: go sixty yards. Yes, as we all know, Bill O'Brien

1841
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 1: is all about having guys that are voted versatile and

1842
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 1: being able to go there. You can put them in

1843
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: any spot. And I just thought this was I thought

1844
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 1: when I saw that on Twitter, I thought that was

1845
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,599
Speaker 1: pretty fun. I was like, I gotta ask the people,

1846
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: and we got some texts on here. Somebody said they

1847
01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: get probably six yards and I don't know who this

1848
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 1: person is. Maybe they're the former player, but I'd be

1849
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: surprised if I always be surprised if anyone that listens

1850
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,680
Speaker 1: to this show could get a first down. If they

1851
01:31:19,720 --> 01:31:21,400
Speaker 1: could get a first down, we need to we need

1852
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,960
Speaker 1: to sign them up. Yeah, because you've never been hit

1853
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,920
Speaker 1: by a professional athlete before. Until you've been hit by

1854
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: a professional athletes, it's a different ball game. It's a

1855
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: whole different a lot of respect for what those guys

1856
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: do out there. Now. Opening night it's two and a

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01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,640
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Speaker 1: camp is going on. Now. Do you feel better about

1942
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Speaker 1: I see two running backs I know are going to

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1945
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1946
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1948
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Speaker 1: and before the break, I talked about the fact that

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1961
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Speaker 1: that they're gonna have twenty two percent of the fans

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Speaker 1: in their stadium. So then I just want to get

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Speaker 1: your insight on this. What do you think that's going

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Speaker 1: to look like feel like when you're there in person?

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Speaker 1: And how closely do you think that the Texans are

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Speaker 1: going to be monitoring the procedures and protocols that are

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Speaker 1: put in place by the KNCD Chiefs that they could

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Speaker 1: possibly implement that later on in the season here in Houston.

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Speaker 1: Great questions. There's a lot of shared information as far

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Speaker 1: as best practices. There are a lot of protocols that

1973
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Speaker 1: everybody must adhere to regardless, right but they know the

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Speaker 1: league knows that not all areas are the same in

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Speaker 1: the country. So the Chiefs feel like they can have

1976
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Speaker 1: fans opening night. The Texans feel like they're opening day

1977
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Speaker 1: game against the Ravens, no fans. Obviously things are different

1978
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Speaker 1: here than Missouri, I guess. And there's no quarantine once

1979
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Speaker 1: you arrive in Missouri from other places including Texas, Whereas

1980
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Speaker 1: let's say Pennsylvania, and the teams are different because they're

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Speaker 1: tested every day, they're in a different group. But if

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Speaker 1: for fourteen days at least that's what it was last week.

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Speaker 1: So you have all that kind of stuff going on.

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Speaker 1: But as far as the fans go, I think it's

1986
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Speaker 1: gonna be really weird because you do have to distance

1987
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Speaker 1: the fans now. I think the way they do it,

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Speaker 1: if I understand it correctly, is if you're in a group,

1989
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Speaker 1: like you go to the game with your son or

1990
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Speaker 1: your dad or your wife, you could sit together, but

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Speaker 1: you can't sit near other people, right, so they space

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Speaker 1: them out. So it's not like you have fifteen thousand

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Speaker 1: jammed in close to the field. If you did, I

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Speaker 1: think you still get a nice little home field advantage,

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Speaker 1: and maybe you still do anyway. You know, we've been

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Speaker 1: places over the years, guys where like, for instance, trips

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Speaker 1: to Oakland. I remember games in Oakland where it just

1998
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Speaker 1: seems like there's nobody in the stadium but the black

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Speaker 1: hole has about I don't know, four thousand people down there,

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Speaker 1: and they're making enough noise to really make you go

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Speaker 1: to a silent count, you know, so fan noise is

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Speaker 1: a really peculiar thing sometimes. I mean, you could have

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Speaker 1: a quiet sixty thousand, you could have a loud twenty thousand,

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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs will be loud because they're celebrating the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship and all of that. But my big

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Speaker 1: question about this is are they allowed to augment to

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Speaker 1: supplement the noise? Because we all know this is one

2008
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Speaker 1: of the loudest stadiums in the league. Are you allowed

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Speaker 1: to pump in extra to where it would have been

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Speaker 1: had we had a full Arrowhead stadium? And that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure of, because it is deafening in

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Speaker 1: there when it's a full house, and it won't be

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Speaker 1: so they're allowed to Are they allowed to make it

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Speaker 1: sound like one see Vanda. That's a great point there,

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Speaker 1: and that's something I feel like they should allow to happen.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they have recordings and they know how

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Speaker 1: what the decibel levels usually are at their home games

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Speaker 1: all over the NFL, and so to me, they should

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Speaker 1: be able to average that and say, hey, this is

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Speaker 1: how loud that you can turn up your crowd volume

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Speaker 1: for when you're playing games. So that to me it

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Speaker 1: would feel real for the for the teams that are

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Speaker 1: playing in the game, and then you actually get that

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Speaker 1: home field advantage that you that you normally would have

2025
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Speaker 1: to me competitively. That should be something that the NFL

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Speaker 1: rooves for the rest of the seasons. Go here, Andy, Well,

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Speaker 1: I like that idea to a point, because I think

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Speaker 1: it should be a maybe eighty nine percent of full

2029
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Speaker 1: in those situations, because otherwise you just crank it up

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Speaker 1: the whole time. Oh, they would have been yelling here.

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Speaker 1: You know, who's gonna monitor and regulate that? And is

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Speaker 1: somebody gonna stand there with a decibel meter to make

2033
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Speaker 1: sure you don't go overkill on it, which could be

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Speaker 1: really bad for the players obviously. I remember watching games

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He tells the ref I can't hear,

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Speaker 1: and the ref is trying to quiet the crowd. Good

2039
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Speaker 1: luck with that, you know, in a primetime game with

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Speaker 1: the fans in New York have been preparing all day long,

2041
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Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. But I digress. I

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Speaker 1: just think that it's you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: regulate its someone. I agree it should be loud, but

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be you know, out of control. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: kind of think, I guess I want to oppositely in

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Speaker 1: if you do have that, it should be even for

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Speaker 1: every franchise. I don't think you should be like Kansas

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Speaker 1: City is louder, because it's to me, like, if I

2049
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Speaker 1: go play in Jacksonville, it's not gonna be nowhere near

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Speaker 1: as loud. Yeah, it's on the attendance that the average

2051
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Speaker 1: goes to the game. Then you know Seattle. So I

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Speaker 1: just think if you're gonna do that, it should be

2053
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Speaker 1: pretty much about the same for everywhere you go. That's

2054
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Speaker 1: just I feel like it should be as realistic as possible.

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Speaker 1: If you're playing in Jacksonville and there's nobody that normally

2056
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Speaker 1: comes to the stadium, then you can't be pumping up

2057
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Speaker 1: your your your volume that loud. But if it's Kansas City,

2058
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Speaker 1: if it's one of those places that it's always loud

2059
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Speaker 1: in there, if you're going to New England, that's a

2060
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Speaker 1: tough place to play because it's loud. To me, that

2061
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 1: would be fair to make it as realistic as possible.

2062
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Speaker 1: But I'm watching the NBA play and I'm watching these

2063
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Speaker 1: these these games. I forget sometimes that this is like

2064
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,000
Speaker 1: I guess I've gotten used to it. But the way

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Speaker 1: the sounds are going and the way they pay the

2066
01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:53,160
Speaker 1: camera camera angle, it makes it look like that there

2067
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,639
Speaker 1: are fans in the stands. Of course they're virtually there,

2068
01:42:56,040 --> 01:42:58,479
Speaker 1: but they've done a great job of incorporating to make

2069
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Speaker 1: it seem like it's The lighting makes me I feel

2070
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Speaker 1: like I'm watching playoff basketball. I think the NFL should

2071
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: definitely do their best to try to replicate that Vandy

2072
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 1: with everything going on, like you mentioned, maybe maybe crowd

2073
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Speaker 1: noise maybe not, depending on each state, as you mentioned it,

2074
01:43:15,360 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 1: maybe more fans in one stadium and less than the other.

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Speaker 1: How does that affect you being the voice? Like, do

2076
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Speaker 1: you feed off the fans are? Like? What does that

2077
01:43:22,520 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 1: affect for you from your perspective? Oh yeah, I mean

2078
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,639
Speaker 1: you want fans now. You sound better when no matter

2079
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:31,799
Speaker 1: what's happening, with a big crowd behind you. As an announcer.

2080
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Speaker 1: I knew a guy, the guy who replaced me when

2081
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:37,640
Speaker 1: I left you Mass came from buck Nell and his

2082
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: demo sounded so good. He was doing a Georgia game.

2083
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Speaker 1: I said, well, what did you do a national game?

2084
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Speaker 1: He said, no, I went to Georgia and I asked

2085
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Speaker 1: them if I could have a booth for one game

2086
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Speaker 1: just to do a fake call into a tape recorder,

2087
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 1: because it was gonna sound so good to have that

2088
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Speaker 1: huge crowd behind my voice. And it did right, because

2089
01:43:55,120 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: buck Nell was like, yay, you know, a few people

2090
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Speaker 1: in the stands or whatever they whatever they draw. You know,

2091
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Speaker 1: it's a there's a difference between a cheer and a roar, right,

2092
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Speaker 1: so you want those fans behind your voice. It sounds better.

2093
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Speaker 1: Now we are the NFL films people have come up

2094
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Speaker 1: with soundtracks that are based on every stadium in the league,

2095
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,240
Speaker 1: not only base They're from every stadium in the league,

2096
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Speaker 1: and they're sending these gigantic files, these gigantic waves sound

2097
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Speaker 1: files to every team. This is your building in these situations,

2098
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Speaker 1: so they have that soundtrack of fans that they can play.

2099
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Speaker 1: But again my question was, well, if the Chiefs have

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Speaker 1: some fans in there, how much are you willing to

2101
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: or allowed to use extra As opposed to the Texans

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Speaker 1: when they play the Ravens September twenty, it's no fans,

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01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 1: So what is it you know, you can just do

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01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want, right so in volume and amount and

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01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,679
Speaker 1: everything else, I'm very curious how it's all gonna go down,

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01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: and I think they'll do a terrific job. I agree

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01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: on the NBA. I just think the NBA is such

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01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: a controlled environment. The way they're doing it. It's, you know,

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01:44:58,200 --> 01:45:00,960
Speaker 1: you can play basketball kind of a v studio, which

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01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 1: is what they're doing, you know, and these games are great.

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01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,840
Speaker 1: The presentation value is terrific. For football, it's gonna be

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01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:08,680
Speaker 1: a little bit harder, but I think they'll come up

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Speaker 1: with something to pull it off. Well, you mentioned the NBA,

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01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: and I noticed that there was some talks or conversation

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01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: about maybe a playoff bubble. I think a coach might

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01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: have brought it up. What's your thoughts on that, Maybe

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01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: having a more controlled environment and maybe I don't know,

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01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: a certain city where all the teams come and play.

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01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:27,000
Speaker 1: All right, So I came up with a bubble idea

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01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:28,960
Speaker 1: for the entire league. You want to hear it real quick, yea,

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01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 1: the entirely. Here's what I would do if if and

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01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: I think they're pulling it off by the way without it,

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01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 1: but if you want it to bubble, the entire league.

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01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: I would go four bubbles, eight teams in each bubble,

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01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,519
Speaker 1: and I'd have a three week break as a buy,

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01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,360
Speaker 1: so I'd play seven games. So I'm one of these

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01:45:47,400 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: eight teams. I'm playing seven other opponents my division, and

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01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: say the Texans are playing the NFC North, so play

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01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 1: the NFC North, right, and you just you know, round

2130
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,759
Speaker 1: robbing it with those eight teams. Take a three week break,

2131
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 1: and your only playing fourteen games in this scenario, and

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01:46:02,040 --> 01:46:03,960
Speaker 1: then get into the next bubble and it's the AFC

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01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: South again, and it's the AFC North because you're playing

2134
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: the AFC North. So you really get a balance schedule

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01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:13,560
Speaker 1: or as much as much of one as possible. And

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01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 1: now you've played fourteen games, you go into your postseason.

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01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can figure that, but everybody

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01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 1: goes into a postseason bubble at that point and you

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01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: finish off the season. I think that would actually work

2140
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: if you had to. But as far as a playoff bubble,

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01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 1: I think if you pull it off, if you pull

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01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:29,960
Speaker 1: off the regular season, you don't need a playoff bubble.

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01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,120
Speaker 1: You're there already, you know what I mean. You're going

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01:46:32,160 --> 01:46:35,000
Speaker 1: into the postseason. You don't need the playoff bubble. Now,

2145
01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,080
Speaker 1: if the regular season gets a little clunky, you have

2146
01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,479
Speaker 1: to miss a game here or there, there's an epidemic

2147
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: here there, then you've got a problem, And maybe you

2148
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:43,679
Speaker 1: want to think about a bubble. I think they're gonna

2149
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 1: play a few games, see how it's going. And maybe

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01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,200
Speaker 1: they have a plan already for a bubble, because I

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01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 1: think they have so many contingency plans. Can you imagine,

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01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Super Bowl is so well planned years

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01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: in advance. What are they thinking for the Super Bowl

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01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,400
Speaker 1: right now? Oh my goodness, how can we do a

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01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:02,400
Speaker 1: good super Bowl in this environment? You know they're talking

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01:47:02,439 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: about it. So I'd love to be a fly on

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01:47:04,520 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 1: the wall in those conversations there for sure, praying for

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01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,600
Speaker 1: a vaccine. I tell you what you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Texans Training Camp Special presented by Xfinity. Mark vandermure Cecil

2160
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 1: shorts on Wade Smith, and I'll tell you what, Mark,

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01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned it earlier that Brandon Cooks came out there

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01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:22,000
Speaker 1: on the field today and he looked good. I want

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01:47:22,040 --> 01:47:23,560
Speaker 1: to get your inside on kind of some of the

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01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:26,439
Speaker 1: guys you've seen out there that have stood out over

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01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,880
Speaker 1: the first weekend day, in a day of padded practices

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01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans and starting with with Brandon Cooks.

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01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: All right, well, Cooks today reminded me, and I don't

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01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:39,280
Speaker 1: want to get too crazy traumatic here, but in a

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01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: certain kind of way, reminded me of the practices that

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Speaker 1: you know every once in a while, Wait, you remember,

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01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:49,080
Speaker 1: and Cecil, you remember this too well. Actually, Cecil, you

2172
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:51,720
Speaker 1: weren't on the team of Andre Johnson. So Andre's last

2173
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,759
Speaker 1: year was fourteen. Year year was fifteen. So Andre Johnson,

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,519
Speaker 1: every training camp would have a practice or two where

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01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,439
Speaker 1: it just made your eyes pop out. Yeah, and then

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01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,080
Speaker 1: and then it made me want to say, put him

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01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: in bubble wrap and just get him ready for the season.

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01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:04,639
Speaker 1: We don't need to see any more of Andre Johnson.

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: And then hop would have similar times too in training

2180
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: camp was whoa, that's phenomenal. Do not let him see

2181
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 1: the field again until the regular season opener. Cooks had

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 1: one of those today, I thought, I mean, he made

2183
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: some ridiculous catches. He looked like Brandon Cooks. I mean,

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01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:23,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is a phenomenal player. I think we forget

2185
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: that sometime. Sometimes. I think that the shock surprise factor

2186
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 1: of the DeAndre Hopkins transaction certainly took away from anything

2187
01:48:35,240 --> 01:48:36,599
Speaker 1: you were going to do for a while. But when

2188
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,559
Speaker 1: you look deeply into these moves, Cob Cooks, I mean,

2189
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: these guys are total pros. David Johnson out there, soft hands,

2190
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:45,439
Speaker 1: big guy. This is gonna be fun to watch. And

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01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 1: I think Cooks in particular is a real eyecatcher. I mean,

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01:48:50,720 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: and John McClain explained it. You know how he got traded,

2193
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,559
Speaker 1: why he got traded each time. But when you've been

2194
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 1: traded for a number one pick, a number one pick,

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01:48:58,160 --> 01:49:01,080
Speaker 1: and a number two pick in your career, you've clearly

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01:49:01,160 --> 01:49:03,280
Speaker 1: got some talent and your first round draft choice to

2197
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:06,560
Speaker 1: begin with. I mean, that's that's three number ones in

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01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: a number two on separate occasions associated with you. This

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01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:13,200
Speaker 1: is strong stuff. He's a hell of a player, and

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01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a tremendous season for this club.

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01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:21,639
Speaker 1: Obviously has to stay healthy. But and if Fuller can't go, guys,

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01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this is my feeling right now. If Fuller

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01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 1: like can't go on a given week or whatever and

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01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 1: has some issues because there's a history there, I want

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01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 1: Fuller to play sixteen games. I would love it because

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01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 1: I think they'd be otherworldly in that case with Cooks

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01:49:34,520 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: and Fuller. But even if Fuller's out, Still's Cooks and

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01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 1: Cob sign me up for that all day long, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Or if Cooks can't go, Yeah, Fuller, Stills, Cob, you know,

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01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: any one of those guys out, the other three are

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01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna fill in, so great for you. And Stills is

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01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:53,040
Speaker 1: having a tremendous camp as well. And I love what

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01:49:53,120 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: I see in Cob. I just think these guys are

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01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 1: gonna be very good together and I'm excited to see

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01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,639
Speaker 1: the results when we get to the regular seas Vandy,

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01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 1: based off of which you've seen so far in training camp.

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01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 1: You just mentioned a bunch of the receivers right there

2218
01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,280
Speaker 1: that have looked good and that we have high expectations for.

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01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: Would you say what's more likely to happen between these

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01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,800
Speaker 1: two things? The Texans keep seven wide receivers or the

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01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 1: Texans keep four tight ends more likely? I would say

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01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: four tight ends because I think seven wide receivers still

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01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 1: gets you the top four. Stills, Fuller, Cook's, Cob, it

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01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 1: gets you DeAndre Carter, because I don't know if anybody

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01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: can really replace DeAndre Carter. Right now in this team,

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01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:36,280
Speaker 1: and people are thinking, well, why can't we get a

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01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:40,679
Speaker 1: guy to catch a punt? This is this is hidden yardage.

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01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: You know he averaged nine point seven yards per return.

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01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,560
Speaker 1: You know he's not He's a top five guy in

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01:50:46,640 --> 01:50:50,880
Speaker 1: this league. Able to do that. That yardage over time

2231
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,320
Speaker 1: means a great deal to your football team. I know

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01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 1: we had the mistake in the playoff game, but I

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01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,280
Speaker 1: really and it was a hard hit that caused it.

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01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,840
Speaker 1: But I believe that this is a suit uper reliable

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01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,519
Speaker 1: player who can also play receiver pretty well by the way,

2236
01:51:03,840 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 1: that you need to have on your team. And then

2237
01:51:05,640 --> 01:51:08,599
Speaker 1: it becomes who's six and can he play special teams?

2238
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 1: Is it Mitchell? Is it Qt? Is it one of

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01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:14,120
Speaker 1: those guys? What about practice squad for somebody who doesn't

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01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:17,479
Speaker 1: make it. Remember that four protected man slot on the

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01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:21,120
Speaker 1: sixteen player practice squad. That is going to come in

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01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:23,479
Speaker 1: handy for a bubble player to be able to make

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01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 1: the squad, to be protected by by your team. I

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:29,880
Speaker 1: think the four tight ends, though, is probably more likely.

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01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: I love Fells, you know what he did last year.

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01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 1: Aikens looks tremendous in this camp. And you've heard about

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01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Thomas having a very nice camp coming off that

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01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,599
Speaker 1: year where he you know, he was on an ir

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01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:42,400
Speaker 1: most of the year, ended up with just one catch.

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01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Thomas has come back man possessed. He's on

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01:51:45,160 --> 01:51:47,720
Speaker 1: a mission right now. Wearing looks great, but you know

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01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 1: he's not getting the reps with the other guys necessarily,

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01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe they changed that up because you're

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01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,000
Speaker 1: looking pretty good. This is a very solid tight end group.

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Speaker 1: This is probably probably the most solid group top to

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01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,640
Speaker 1: bottom since they had Garrick ram and Owen Daniels and

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01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,200
Speaker 1: Joel dreeseon and those guys all together, because that was

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01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:07,320
Speaker 1: a really nice group. What what position every year is

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01:52:07,360 --> 01:52:10,479
Speaker 1: like position battles right or position group battles? What battle

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01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 1: or what position you mentioned tight ends? Um? What position

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01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 1: are you looking at closely to see who can step

2262
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,759
Speaker 1: up and really make the squad? I think d line

2263
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 1: could get interesting because you know, everyone you know talks

2264
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: about DJ Reader not being here. Okay, that's that's too bad.

2265
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: And DJ made some good money going to Cincinnati and

2266
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:34,520
Speaker 1: everything and deserved it. But clearly the rookie Ross Blacklock's

2267
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 1: gonna make the team. You have Watt and a mena

2268
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:39,600
Speaker 1: who and Dunny Um and I think that when you

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01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 1: look at the contribution of Angelo Blackson last year and

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01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 1: his situation he's in, But then you know where do

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01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 1: you go from there? You know, Albert Huggins seems to

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01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 1: be having a good camp. Is Watkins going to be

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01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 1: able to stick um and and bring it all? Uh?

2274
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:58,719
Speaker 1: They have this guy azuya olufaja. Boy, got that one wrong, guys,

2275
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:00,920
Speaker 1: but I will happen right big scene. They call him

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01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,720
Speaker 1: big Ze. It's a zoya ah lufaha. Oh that's right,

2277
01:53:05,040 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 1: so he um I was close enough anyway, I'll get

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01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 1: it more proper for rookie from West Georgia six four

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01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 1: three twenty and he's hard not to notice out there,

2280
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,799
Speaker 1: not just because of his size, but because he's got juice,

2281
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 1: and so does Huggy in his second year out of Clemson.

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01:53:21,960 --> 01:53:25,160
Speaker 1: I think that those guys are players no one's talking

2283
01:53:25,160 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 1: about really except for maybe me and Johnny and a

2284
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: few others that could really make an impression on that

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01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 1: d line mark before we get out of here, man,

2286
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,280
Speaker 1: and let give you opportunity to discuss what's happening up

2287
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,720
Speaker 1: this week upcoming week for Texas Radio and then also

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01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:41,160
Speaker 1: the virtual lunch and is coming up for the Houston Texans. Yeah,

2289
01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,200
Speaker 1: that virtual lunch is gonna be next week. In fact,

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01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,679
Speaker 1: I gotta shoot that stuff because we're doing so much

2291
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:49,760
Speaker 1: fun stuff. You're on it, Wade, you and Travis doing

2292
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:53,960
Speaker 1: a game show. We've got J. J. Watton, Pat McAfee.

2293
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,080
Speaker 1: We got so much stuff in that lunch. And but tonight,

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01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 1: I want to I want to get to everyone's attention

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01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 1: focused on this ten thirty five ABC thirteen Back to

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01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:05,759
Speaker 1: back Texans Extra Points, Texans Training Camp Special, the visuals

2297
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 1: and the Training Camp Special. You will be down on

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01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: the field and it's it's shot unlike anything else we've

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01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:14,040
Speaker 1: ever done. It's really cool stuff. And it's tonight teen

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Speaker 1: thirty five ABC thirteen, and you guys will be back

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01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,720
Speaker 1: next Sunday two to six, which I'm excited about. And

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Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll be on the field eight o'clock eight to

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01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 1: ten am with Texans Training Camp live right here. So

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01:54:24,360 --> 01:54:27,479
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, appreciate you join us, Mark, you do

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01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,000
Speaker 1: an excellent job, like always and looking forward to listen

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01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: to you all week long on Texans Radio here on

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01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Supports Radio sixteen. You guys are the best. Thanks there

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01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: is a certain position group that are lifelong members to

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Speaker 1: So we're fine with being part of the mushroom society

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Speaker 1: I knew exactly what Dwayne Brown was thinking next to

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02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 1: me to my left, and I knew exactly what Chris

2518
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: Meyer's thinking next to me to my right. Also knew

2519
02:05:58,560 --> 02:06:01,200
Speaker 1: what Matt Show was thinking and what call we might

2520
02:06:01,360 --> 02:06:04,560
Speaker 1: check into based off of what we had. We had

2521
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:08,200
Speaker 1: a great feet I mean, don't don't get me started.

2522
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:11,120
Speaker 1: We have a great people, but we knew what each

2523
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:13,600
Speaker 1: other was going to do before we did it, And

2524
02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:17,880
Speaker 1: so that took the whole element of thinking out of

2525
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 1: the game. And if you can take thinking out of

2526
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:22,760
Speaker 1: any professionals, so I don't care what you're doing. If

2527
02:06:22,760 --> 02:06:24,600
Speaker 1: you can take thinking out of it, and then now

2528
02:06:24,680 --> 02:06:28,200
Speaker 1: you're focusing on playing, You're focusing on how am I

2529
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:32,320
Speaker 1: going to defeat this this this defensive lineming. How am

2530
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:34,360
Speaker 1: I gonna where? Am I gonna get my feet in

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02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 1: place so that I can work this double team up

2532
02:06:36,560 --> 02:06:39,040
Speaker 1: to the second level? Am I looking at this safety

2533
02:06:39,080 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 1: and seeing that he looks like he's gonna come off

2534
02:06:41,280 --> 02:06:43,360
Speaker 1: the edge, And so now that means that I'm not

2535
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:46,560
Speaker 1: going to set out I'm gonna allow this this defensive

2536
02:06:46,600 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: linement to slant inside because I know that he's going there.

2537
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,800
Speaker 1: When you can start playing the game like that, now

2538
02:06:54,080 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 1: you have a tremendous advantage over whoever lines up across you.

2539
02:06:57,400 --> 02:06:59,600
Speaker 1: I don't care who's across from us. It's about what

2540
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,960
Speaker 1: we do because we are all on the same page.

2541
02:07:02,240 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 1: Last year, the Texans offensive line didn't have that. They

2542
02:07:04,520 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: had two rookies and Larmie I mean in Titus Howard

2543
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 1: and Max Sharpin and then they had a new guy

2544
02:07:09,760 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 1: Larremie Tuntsel, and so when they're walking to the line,

2545
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of thinking going on. Now, Max Sharpin

2546
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:18,920
Speaker 1: is one of the smartest offensive lineman that you will

2547
02:07:18,960 --> 02:07:21,280
Speaker 1: come across. Just listening to different guys that are in

2548
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:24,480
Speaker 1: the building, tell me about this dude is so curribular

2549
02:07:24,640 --> 02:07:27,520
Speaker 1: cerebro as an offensive lineman. So he's a little bit

2550
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:29,800
Speaker 1: of He's more advanced than what you would get out

2551
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:32,800
Speaker 1: of a normal rookie, but still until you actually go

2552
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 1: through those experiences and you go through those fires, you're

2553
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: not going to know how to react and know what

2554
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: to expect until you actually do it. And so this year,

2555
02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 1: those experiences have all been had. I think Max Sharpin

2556
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:46,320
Speaker 1: played every snap last year. I don't remember him being

2557
02:07:46,360 --> 02:07:47,920
Speaker 1: out of the game. If you missed some time, then

2558
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: I must have turned the channel for a second and

2559
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 1: went to go to a bathroom break of something. But

2560
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:54,600
Speaker 1: he was out there every play and he played. I

2561
02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:57,000
Speaker 1: guess that was eighteen games. Last year. You played sixteen

2562
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 1: regular season games and two big playoff games. So he

2563
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:02,320
Speaker 1: he is going to be I'm looking forward to him

2564
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:05,360
Speaker 1: to having a big year. But Jeremy tounsl tightest Howard

2565
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: Max Sharpe, those guys are going to have so much

2566
02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:10,680
Speaker 1: more confidence when they come to the line of scrimmage

2567
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:14,200
Speaker 1: that they can focus on just playing football as opposed

2568
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 1: to thinking what's going to happen next, So you basically

2569
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:18,480
Speaker 1: just react. You know what's going to happen, and you

2570
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:20,280
Speaker 1: can see it's at the line. Now, let me let

2571
02:08:20,320 --> 02:08:24,000
Speaker 1: me ask you this technique wise, what do the younger

2572
02:08:24,120 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 1: guys need to work on? Max and Tightest in particular,

2573
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:29,640
Speaker 1: everybody else I'm assuming, and you can tell me if

2574
02:08:29,680 --> 02:08:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, But touns full tune, and then Nick, they

2575
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:35,680
Speaker 1: pretty much had their technique down. He always always can

2576
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:37,080
Speaker 1: work on it, but they pretty much have it down.

2577
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 1: But as far as Max, because Max was a tackle

2578
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:43,160
Speaker 1: in college, ye a left tackle, and then Titus also

2579
02:08:43,200 --> 02:08:45,560
Speaker 1: played left tackle in college. So now they're playing two

2580
02:08:46,160 --> 02:08:49,880
Speaker 1: different positions now technique wise, and they're kind of I

2581
02:08:49,960 --> 02:08:51,840
Speaker 1: guess throwing fire and they play a lot of different

2582
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:54,920
Speaker 1: stuff in the camping priests in the games. But now

2583
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 1: they have left garden right tackle technique wise, what do

2584
02:08:57,720 --> 02:08:59,240
Speaker 1: they need to improve? So you look at a guy

2585
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,200
Speaker 1: like Max Sharpe, and he's a guy that did a

2586
02:09:01,280 --> 02:09:03,560
Speaker 1: really good job last year of covering guys up. That

2587
02:09:03,720 --> 02:09:06,280
Speaker 1: means that I'm getting in front of guys, I'm keeping

2588
02:09:06,360 --> 02:09:09,360
Speaker 1: my hands inside and blocking them, but I'm not necessarily

2589
02:09:09,480 --> 02:09:12,280
Speaker 1: dominating him, or I'm you know, I'm moving him off

2590
02:09:12,360 --> 02:09:15,400
Speaker 1: the ball a bunch of yards, or I'm not using

2591
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,760
Speaker 1: his momentum against him to bim him outside or bim

2592
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:22,520
Speaker 1: him inside. Being more of a crafty player, so some

2593
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 1: of his technique that he's going to approve upon because

2594
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:27,400
Speaker 1: he knows what's going on and he's got continuity with

2595
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:30,680
Speaker 1: the guys next to you. As you progressing your career,

2596
02:09:31,040 --> 02:09:33,920
Speaker 1: you start getting more crafty, you start figuring out ways

2597
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:38,080
Speaker 1: to use guys momentum against them, You figure out ways

2598
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,000
Speaker 1: to get them moving in that way because it's very

2599
02:09:40,040 --> 02:09:42,960
Speaker 1: difficult to just line up and take a guy and

2600
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,200
Speaker 1: take them where he doesn't want to go. It's very

2601
02:09:45,280 --> 02:09:47,240
Speaker 1: difficult to do. The guys that can do that on

2602
02:09:47,320 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 1: a consistent basis make tens of millions of dollars each

2603
02:09:50,080 --> 02:09:52,240
Speaker 1: and every year, and so you know that's something that

2604
02:09:52,320 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 1: Max Sharpin is gonna have to work on, as far

2605
02:09:54,040 --> 02:09:57,680
Speaker 1: as the craftiness of the game and making sure that

2606
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:01,120
Speaker 1: he's he's not oversetting and pass pro That's something a

2607
02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 1: young offensive lineman always have a propensity to do is

2608
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:09,000
Speaker 1: to overset basically allow the defensive lineman to slant inside.

2609
02:10:09,040 --> 02:10:10,960
Speaker 1: And that's the last thing you want to happen because

2610
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,080
Speaker 1: if a defensive lineman goes to your inside, that's the

2611
02:10:14,160 --> 02:10:16,400
Speaker 1: quickest way to the quarterback, that's the quickest way to Deshaun.

2612
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:18,839
Speaker 1: So you want to make sure that you keep inside

2613
02:10:18,840 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 1: out leverage. And Titus Howard actually mentioned that in his

2614
02:10:21,480 --> 02:10:24,160
Speaker 1: press conference that I listened to earlier this year. He

2615
02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 1: mentioned that, you know, he's been listening to Coach Devlin

2616
02:10:27,640 --> 02:10:30,360
Speaker 1: about making sure that I'm inside out leverage and I'm

2617
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 1: using my hands better and pass protecting. That's something that

2618
02:10:33,520 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 1: Titus Howard that that's encouraging it here that he knows

2619
02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:39,680
Speaker 1: that he's focusing on that part of it, not focusing

2620
02:10:39,760 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 1: on on who I'm supposed to block on his play,

2621
02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:45,480
Speaker 1: what's what you know, what's the snap count on? I'm

2622
02:10:45,560 --> 02:10:48,200
Speaker 1: focusing on how am I gonna get this guy across

2623
02:10:48,280 --> 02:10:51,200
Speaker 1: from me blocked and keep my quarterback clean. You mentioned

2624
02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:53,960
Speaker 1: the mushroom Society, and I think the leader of the

2625
02:10:54,120 --> 02:10:58,000
Speaker 1: mushroom society is Coach death Now. Last year this time,

2626
02:10:58,600 --> 02:11:02,440
Speaker 1: we were on his head, were like listening, we haven't

2627
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:05,280
Speaker 1: seen too much. What is going on? Wasn't the boom

2628
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:07,480
Speaker 1: boom boom? Well last year I think he did a

2629
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:09,760
Speaker 1: good job bringing alone those young guys and bringing tones

2630
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:12,000
Speaker 1: to up to speed. So what do you think of

2631
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 1: coach Adave as of August twenty third. I think it

2632
02:11:15,400 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 1: is well. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

2633
02:11:17,400 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 1: And when Devlin first came here, remind you coach Devlin was.

2634
02:11:22,760 --> 02:11:25,040
Speaker 1: He was an assistant offensive line coach for me when

2635
02:11:25,120 --> 02:11:26,760
Speaker 1: I was with the New York Jets way back in

2636
02:11:26,840 --> 02:11:28,800
Speaker 1: like two thousand and seven. You know he was. He

2637
02:11:28,920 --> 02:11:30,320
Speaker 1: was a tight ends coach one year and then he

2638
02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:32,800
Speaker 1: was the assistant offensive line coach another year. So I

2639
02:11:32,920 --> 02:11:35,040
Speaker 1: knew Devlon. When he came into this building, I was

2640
02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:36,840
Speaker 1: excited for the Texans because I said, you know what,

2641
02:11:37,480 --> 02:11:39,840
Speaker 1: this guy knows what he's talking about. He's going to

2642
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:42,680
Speaker 1: help them. He was definitely an upgrade over the coach

2643
02:11:42,760 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 1: that came here that was here the year before that,

2644
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:48,400
Speaker 1: the year because John Bitten was my offensive line coach.

2645
02:11:48,680 --> 02:11:50,879
Speaker 1: The following year, there was a coach here from Atlanta.

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02:11:51,560 --> 02:11:54,400
Speaker 1: Sha remained name listed. Honestly, he didn't know what he

2647
02:11:54,480 --> 02:11:57,400
Speaker 1: was doing. He didn't understand Bill O'Brien's offense. Chris Myers

2648
02:11:57,480 --> 02:11:59,080
Speaker 1: was in the room at that time. Chris Myers was

2649
02:11:59,120 --> 02:12:01,200
Speaker 1: having to run meetings. If your center is having to

2650
02:12:01,280 --> 02:12:03,160
Speaker 1: run the meetings, that's a problem. That was before you

2651
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,000
Speaker 1: got here and after I left. It was in our

2652
02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,200
Speaker 1: little grace period. So I'm not going to comment too

2653
02:12:07,280 --> 02:12:10,640
Speaker 1: much on that. But once Devnely came in the following season,

2654
02:12:11,120 --> 02:12:12,920
Speaker 1: you knew, all right, this team is going to get better.

2655
02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,720
Speaker 1: The problem is is that they started losing guys like,

2656
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:19,200
Speaker 1: all right, you know Derek Newton. Well, first of all,

2657
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:23,280
Speaker 1: Brandon Brooks and Ben Jones they leave because they leave

2658
02:12:23,320 --> 02:12:26,640
Speaker 1: in free agency, they're not resigned. And then Derek Newton

2659
02:12:26,720 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 1: gets hurt and so you lose another start, big accident.

2660
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Speaker 1: And then Dwayne Brown one season he's out for the year.

2661
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Speaker 1: The following season he plays well, but then after that

2662
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Speaker 1: he's gone to Seattle, he's trade, he's he's holding out,

2663
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Speaker 1: and eventually he's gone to Seattle. So you had Devil

2664
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 1: dealing with a lot of pieces in place that he

2665
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:48,160
Speaker 1: didn't expect to have to be dealing with him. He

2666
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Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of talent to really work with

2667
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Speaker 1: during that period, so it was very difficult to give

2668
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,920
Speaker 1: him a legitimate grade on what you could see out

2669
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,240
Speaker 1: of him. But you've seen over the past few years

2670
02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:00,920
Speaker 1: they've invested heavily in that position and you're seeing it

2671
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,400
Speaker 1: to start pay dividends with the talent that they brought in.

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Speaker 1: But those guys actually working the better, working together better

2673
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Speaker 1: where they're they're working off double teams in pass Pro,

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Speaker 1: They're doing a good job of staying on level and

2675
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Speaker 1: so by by him doing that that you have to

2676
02:13:15,760 --> 02:13:17,960
Speaker 1: give him credit and let let it be known that, hey,

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Speaker 1: Mike Devl is doing a good job and expect even

2678
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Speaker 1: more of that going forward in the future. Now, training

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Speaker 1: zero zero zero seven Texans Training camp is going on now.

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Speaker 1: KIKIQT is the one that piques my interest the most.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really do SHOW think he is in

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Speaker 1: line to help this team in the return game. He

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02:18:23,720 --> 02:18:26,840
Speaker 1: is a step up talent wise, skill level wise from

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Carter. I think he can help the team from

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Speaker 1: a return specialist standpoint, the reps that he misses when

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Speaker 1: he's not at practice behind Randall Cobb, I think you're

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Speaker 1: just vitaled, not only the Texans if something were to

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Speaker 1: happen to Randall Cobb, but to Kiki Qt's career. Moving

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Speaker 1: forward to Houston Sports Leader, Sports Radio six ten, Radio

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Speaker 1: to Texans Radio. It's the Texas Training Camp special printed

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Speaker 1: by Exfinity and talked about it before the break Man

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Speaker 1: Virtual Training Camp. When I say virtual training camp, man,

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02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:12,320
Speaker 1: that's the Skies right. If I haven't noticed, if you've

2780
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,040
Speaker 1: been paying attention to the show. There's been a lot

2781
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:16,080
Speaker 1: of htown going up and down when we come back

2782
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:18,960
Speaker 1: from these breaks. It's a little time in detail put

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02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:21,760
Speaker 1: into that. But this is Ahtown versus everybody, So I

2784
02:19:21,800 --> 02:19:23,480
Speaker 1: want to show love to this city that's listening to

2785
02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 1: me right now. But yeah, man, virtual training Camp has

2786
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,800
Speaker 1: been going on, joined by Ceasi Shorts here six year

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02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 1: in real fat and I'm waye Smith and Coronavirus nineteen

2788
02:19:34,640 --> 02:19:37,320
Speaker 1: has messed up everything when it comes to fans participating

2789
02:19:37,320 --> 02:19:40,160
Speaker 1: in training camp like normal. I'm used to when I

2790
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:43,000
Speaker 1: was a player for the Houston Texans. I would pull

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02:19:43,120 --> 02:19:45,640
Speaker 1: up to the stadium and I don't know, six o'clock

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02:19:45,720 --> 02:19:47,960
Speaker 1: in the morning, and there would be a line around

2793
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:50,360
Speaker 1: the block of people waiting to get into training camp

2794
02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:53,240
Speaker 1: on every single day. They should think to myself, dude,

2795
02:19:53,240 --> 02:19:55,920
Speaker 1: these people actually have jobs. And they did have jobs,

2796
02:19:55,959 --> 02:19:57,600
Speaker 1: but you know what, they didn't care. I'm taking the

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02:19:57,680 --> 02:19:59,480
Speaker 1: day because I'm going to see my Texans. And I

2798
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,160
Speaker 1: used to love of that. You used to get me geeked.

2799
02:20:01,200 --> 02:20:03,800
Speaker 1: I'd be listening to music and I see that and

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02:20:03,920 --> 02:20:06,600
Speaker 1: I started I started rocking in the car, bouncing my

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02:20:06,680 --> 02:20:08,240
Speaker 1: head like yeah, it's it's going to go down. The

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02:20:08,320 --> 02:20:10,280
Speaker 1: people are out there, and we talked about a little

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02:20:10,280 --> 02:20:12,680
Speaker 1: bit earlier with Mike VanderMeer, like it's different. It's a

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02:20:12,760 --> 02:20:15,560
Speaker 1: different environment because the fans aren't out there. But I

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02:20:15,640 --> 02:20:18,240
Speaker 1: think the Texans have done a really cool thing, uh

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Speaker 1: during this training campus. They've been doing virtual training camp

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02:20:24,080 --> 02:20:27,760
Speaker 1: sessions with various groups groups around this season, around around

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02:20:27,800 --> 02:20:30,480
Speaker 1: the city. And we're talking about like kids from the

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02:20:30,520 --> 02:20:34,040
Speaker 1: Boys and Girls clubs. They've had uh, season ticket holders,

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Speaker 1: they've had contest winners, winners, they've had just various people

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02:20:37,520 --> 02:20:40,520
Speaker 1: that are Texans fans to support this organization, to support

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02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:44,160
Speaker 1: this team, and once players are walking off the field,

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02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:47,320
Speaker 1: they're getting to interact with some of their favorite favorite

2814
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Speaker 1: players by zoom, you know what I mean. And so

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Speaker 1: I've been on a couple of those calls this past week.

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Speaker 1: You've been a couple on a couple of those calls

2817
02:20:53,920 --> 02:20:56,560
Speaker 1: this past week. Let's talk a little bit about how

2818
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 1: those calls have went and and and and how you

2819
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:04,320
Speaker 1: were able to enjoy threw up a negative overall situation

2820
02:21:04,440 --> 02:21:06,560
Speaker 1: that you got the coronavirus going on, but how you've

2821
02:21:06,600 --> 02:21:10,199
Speaker 1: been able to enjoy the players in the fan interaction

2822
02:21:10,600 --> 02:21:13,280
Speaker 1: over training camp so far, well, kudos to the Texans

2823
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Speaker 1: for coming up with this creative idea. So just to

2824
02:21:15,560 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 1: give you a background, if you haven't seen this, a

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02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,240
Speaker 1: huge screen, I guess right at the entrance per se

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02:21:20,879 --> 02:21:23,840
Speaker 1: of a huge TV or a screen where we're on

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02:21:23,879 --> 02:21:26,120
Speaker 1: a zoom call. So like for me this week, I

2828
02:21:26,200 --> 02:21:28,240
Speaker 1: was on a zoom call with One day it was

2829
02:21:28,280 --> 02:21:30,880
Speaker 1: some season ticket holders, about ten to twelve us all

2830
02:21:30,920 --> 02:21:33,039
Speaker 1: on the call. The next day I went on there.

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02:21:33,080 --> 02:21:35,720
Speaker 1: It was a contest when it's about ten, twelve, twen

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02:21:35,760 --> 02:21:37,920
Speaker 1: and twelve of us on a call and it's just

2833
02:21:38,080 --> 02:21:40,800
Speaker 1: we're sitting there having a conversation talking about whatever we

2834
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:43,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about. They'll ask, you know, different guys

2835
02:21:43,360 --> 02:21:45,480
Speaker 1: questions or whatnot that's on the call, or we'll talk

2836
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:47,800
Speaker 1: about Netflix or whatever whatever's going on. I think we

2837
02:21:47,879 --> 02:21:50,560
Speaker 1: had a conversation about what's the best Netflix show? When

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02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:53,280
Speaker 1: I mentioned Ozark, me and Drew Doherty. If Drew's listening,

2839
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:56,800
Speaker 1: we love us some ozarkment. I'm much we're watching season

2840
02:21:56,840 --> 02:21:59,199
Speaker 1: three again. I just I just I just love Ozark.

2841
02:21:59,280 --> 02:22:01,840
Speaker 1: But anyways, um, so it's it's pretty cool. And then

2842
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:04,440
Speaker 1: it's like random guys, I shouldn't say random. But the

2843
02:22:04,520 --> 02:22:06,720
Speaker 1: guys are done with practice, they're walking off the field

2844
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:10,320
Speaker 1: and somebody will come and we're they can hear us.

2845
02:22:10,400 --> 02:22:12,760
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, hey, what's up, guys. And for example,

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02:22:12,840 --> 02:22:14,840
Speaker 1: jj Y came over and just talk to the guys

2847
02:22:14,920 --> 02:22:17,039
Speaker 1: for or talk to the contest winners for a good

2848
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:19,000
Speaker 1: five minutes, just checking up on him. See, I was

2849
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:22,480
Speaker 1: doing m Charles and many. Hugh's birthday was one of

2850
02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:26,760
Speaker 1: the particular days happy birthday tone. It was all choppy

2851
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:31,440
Speaker 1: but happy birthday tones. Yeah, he loved it, man. But

2852
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:34,160
Speaker 1: just the players to interact with the fans. Like you mentioned,

2853
02:22:34,879 --> 02:22:37,320
Speaker 1: the fans take off of work or decide not to

2854
02:22:37,360 --> 02:22:38,800
Speaker 1: go to work, or whatever the case may be, to

2855
02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:42,200
Speaker 1: come in the heat, come cheer a song for two

2856
02:22:42,240 --> 02:22:44,320
Speaker 1: and a half three hours when it's just practice. And

2857
02:22:44,640 --> 02:22:46,640
Speaker 1: like I told, like we were talking about with um

2858
02:22:47,400 --> 02:22:50,480
Speaker 1: with Vandy, it's times they're cheering going crazy over you know,

2859
02:22:50,600 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: different nice catches or good blocks or one on one

2860
02:22:53,120 --> 02:22:55,840
Speaker 1: drills or whatever the case may be, and they're out

2861
02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:59,280
Speaker 1: there suffering and like like they're sacrificing with us. So

2862
02:22:59,480 --> 02:23:02,520
Speaker 1: for them, the players to give back in this way

2863
02:23:02,560 --> 02:23:04,480
Speaker 1: and most guys. The second time I was on. They

2864
02:23:04,560 --> 02:23:06,920
Speaker 1: came and they at least waved and say hello and hey,

2865
02:23:07,000 --> 02:23:09,160
Speaker 1: what's up y'all throw up at htown sign or whatever.

2866
02:23:09,280 --> 02:23:11,000
Speaker 1: And Justin Reid came and talked to us. So it's

2867
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:15,080
Speaker 1: pretty cool that they're still giving back during this pandemic

2868
02:23:15,160 --> 02:23:18,160
Speaker 1: and the every every person I've been on the Zoom

2869
02:23:18,200 --> 02:23:20,720
Speaker 1: call where they're so so grateful. Yeah. Man, on the

2870
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 1: couple that I did, one of them, I was with

2871
02:23:22,959 --> 02:23:25,560
Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club here in Houston, and there

2872
02:23:25,680 --> 02:23:28,480
Speaker 1: was probably thirty year so people on the Zoom call

2873
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:31,200
Speaker 1: just various boxes all over the place. And you know,

2874
02:23:31,480 --> 02:23:34,960
Speaker 1: before the as the practice is ending, you're on there

2875
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:38,560
Speaker 1: as an ambassador as myself and Errol Mitchell, former use

2876
02:23:38,600 --> 02:23:42,640
Speaker 1: and Texans, and so we're just discussing just what training

2877
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:45,000
Speaker 1: camp was like for us, what we're looking to see

2878
02:23:45,400 --> 02:23:47,680
Speaker 1: out of the Texans this year with the kids, talking

2879
02:23:47,720 --> 02:23:50,360
Speaker 1: to them about how school is going for them, are

2880
02:23:50,400 --> 02:23:52,760
Speaker 1: they going back to school virtually, are they are they

2881
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:55,560
Speaker 1: playing sports this year? All those different things that you

2882
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:57,800
Speaker 1: might a conversation that you might have in person with

2883
02:23:57,879 --> 02:24:00,400
Speaker 1: somebody who year at training camp, we're able to replicate

2884
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:02,520
Speaker 1: that by zoom And that was really cool and then

2885
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:05,040
Speaker 1: you also, like you mentioned, JJ wat walks up, and

2886
02:24:05,080 --> 02:24:07,880
Speaker 1: we didn't know the day that we did ours with

2887
02:24:07,959 --> 02:24:09,960
Speaker 1: the Boys and Girls Club, we didn't know who was

2888
02:24:10,040 --> 02:24:12,720
Speaker 1: going to be coming up. So it was all of

2889
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:15,520
Speaker 1: a sudden, we're having a conversation. And I asked Earl

2890
02:24:15,560 --> 02:24:18,279
Speaker 1: a question, and Earl is given this this great answer,

2891
02:24:18,600 --> 02:24:20,440
Speaker 1: and I said, and then all of a sudden, JJ

2892
02:24:20,640 --> 02:24:23,080
Speaker 1: walks up. But I said, Earl, I know, I know

2893
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:25,240
Speaker 1: you talking right now, and it's a great question, a

2894
02:24:25,360 --> 02:24:28,560
Speaker 1: great answer that you have for this question. But mister

2895
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:30,640
Speaker 1: JJ Watt just walked up. And so we want to

2896
02:24:30,680 --> 02:24:33,680
Speaker 1: make sure that we give the kids on the call

2897
02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:36,760
Speaker 1: the opportunity to discuss with him. And so interview JJ

2898
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:41,240
Speaker 1: JJ looked like, I mean, I was a teammate of

2899
02:24:41,320 --> 02:24:44,039
Speaker 1: JJ long time ago. Two thousand eleven was his rookie year.

2900
02:24:44,040 --> 02:24:48,440
Speaker 1: We were teammates for three seasons. Dude looks more rocked up,

2901
02:24:48,600 --> 02:24:51,960
Speaker 1: cut up like. He looks like he looks like a

2902
02:24:52,200 --> 02:24:54,040
Speaker 1: like an action hero, you know what I mean, looks

2903
02:24:54,040 --> 02:24:55,800
Speaker 1: like an action hole that he can just go like,

2904
02:24:55,959 --> 02:24:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm done playing, I'm just gonna go be

2905
02:24:58,520 --> 02:25:01,080
Speaker 1: the rock two point zer. And and that's what that's

2906
02:25:01,080 --> 02:25:02,879
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna make millions of dollars

2907
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:05,160
Speaker 1: on these movies like he and he's kind of laid

2908
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:06,880
Speaker 1: the groundwork for that. But when I looked at him

2909
02:25:06,879 --> 02:25:09,080
Speaker 1: and I'm talking to him, like man, JJ, he looked

2910
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:11,200
Speaker 1: like he's ready to go. Man. So I know that

2911
02:25:11,320 --> 02:25:13,280
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reports out there, of course that

2912
02:25:13,600 --> 02:25:16,160
Speaker 1: he's not practicing right now. He's out there, but he's

2913
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:18,640
Speaker 1: doing work on his own. But I fully feel like

2914
02:25:19,160 --> 02:25:22,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready to go once once the season

2915
02:25:22,320 --> 02:25:25,039
Speaker 1: gets here on September ten, Yeah, real quick. So JJ

2916
02:25:25,200 --> 02:25:27,960
Speaker 1: stopped at ours too, and I think, if I'm not mistaken,

2917
02:25:28,040 --> 02:25:31,000
Speaker 1: there's one designated guy that comes to each one and

2918
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:33,880
Speaker 1: it and then it's just random guys that just come

2919
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,200
Speaker 1: and say hello and what's up. Um. Both days I

2920
02:25:36,280 --> 02:25:39,000
Speaker 1: were on, we never had JJ the designated guy. And

2921
02:25:39,160 --> 02:25:42,880
Speaker 1: he comes on and he lightens up everybody in that call.

2922
02:25:43,000 --> 02:25:45,680
Speaker 1: It's the coolest thing ever. But I can agree I

2923
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:47,200
Speaker 1: played with him for a year and a half and

2924
02:25:47,360 --> 02:25:51,080
Speaker 1: he looks better now than he did when I played

2925
02:25:51,120 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 1: with him in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Yeah, Like

2926
02:25:53,400 --> 02:25:56,080
Speaker 1: he just looks apart like he looks like he's well

2927
02:25:56,160 --> 02:25:57,800
Speaker 1: taking care of like he got surgery on whatever. He

2928
02:25:57,840 --> 02:26:00,120
Speaker 1: got surgery on the bicep or whatever it was. It

2929
02:26:00,160 --> 02:26:01,960
Speaker 1: wasn't like everything to care everything else. While they was

2930
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:04,200
Speaker 1: in there too, it was just like he just looks good.

2931
02:26:04,320 --> 02:26:07,080
Speaker 1: Six million dollars, man, it's definitely more than that. But

2932
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:09,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I tell you what. There

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk ex Just talk to me a little

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Speaker 1: an impressive first year with the Texans. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: with larmye, of course, everyone's gonna they hear that question

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Speaker 1: You know, you guys know more than anything. I cecil

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Speaker 1: snap count, you're probably doing it wrong. But offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: know that they're thirty two NFL teams. They're thirty two

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Speaker 1: it takes a while to kind of get used to,

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Speaker 1: especially the way that cadences are now. Like you listen

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Speaker 1: to Cam, you know, if you know the field, Mica

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Speaker 1: pick up Cam. Cam's got that really elongated ready and

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Speaker 1: he carries it out for a long time and then

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Speaker 1: game he's like he got I can't remember. I think

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Speaker 1: snap count, and he kind of kept using it. So

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Speaker 1: my point with the false starts with Laramie is I

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Speaker 1: think getting used to the sean and getting used to

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Speaker 1: So I don't really worry too much about that. I

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Speaker 1: area where he really could could kind of come into

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Speaker 1: I was asked this question about Titus too. You know,

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Speaker 1: what could Titus do better? One thing what Titus is

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see him finish blocks like he does

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Speaker 1: But then a lot of times he kind of has

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Speaker 1: finish that, dude. Finish that dude. Laramie I think is

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Speaker 1: much better at that than Titus is, but I would

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Speaker 1: like to see him become a little bit more in

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Speaker 1: the run game, the one part I think for both

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Speaker 1: And I'll explain why are the backside blocks on zone away.

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Speaker 1: So if you run outside zone to Laramie's side, that's

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Speaker 1: think this is gonna be like y'all, Wade when you

3141
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:01,560
Speaker 1: had Arian and it was it was zone almost exclusively.

3142
02:38:02,120 --> 02:38:03,600
Speaker 1: And I know you guys said other things mixed in,

3143
02:38:03,800 --> 02:38:06,120
Speaker 1: but you know, it's not gonna be like that, but

3144
02:38:06,200 --> 02:38:08,879
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a preponderance of zone game

3145
02:38:09,800 --> 02:38:13,280
Speaker 1: in particular because of David Johnson. I think Duke can

3146
02:38:13,400 --> 02:38:17,080
Speaker 1: run either and run it pretty well, but David's really

3147
02:38:17,360 --> 02:38:20,280
Speaker 1: good in the zone game, and I think that's gonna

3148
02:38:20,360 --> 02:38:24,280
Speaker 1: be hugely important because he wants that cut up run

3149
02:38:25,120 --> 02:38:27,960
Speaker 1: where the tackle can just wash down the backside of

3150
02:38:28,040 --> 02:38:30,240
Speaker 1: that zone block and he kind of cuts it back

3151
02:38:30,320 --> 02:38:34,160
Speaker 1: behind him or the guard from guard to tackle, they

3152
02:38:34,280 --> 02:38:36,720
Speaker 1: wipe that out. The tackle then seals off the backside

3153
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:38,760
Speaker 1: and he cuts it back and through there. But those

3154
02:38:38,879 --> 02:38:43,240
Speaker 1: zone backside blocks aren't going to be huge for Laramie

3155
02:38:43,320 --> 02:38:45,400
Speaker 1: and Titus this year, and they really have got to

3156
02:38:45,480 --> 02:38:49,760
Speaker 1: finish those this year to provide those cut up lanes

3157
02:38:50,520 --> 02:38:53,160
Speaker 1: for David Johnson in particular. Now Duke can see it

3158
02:38:53,400 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 1: and he'll get to it, but I think those blocks

3159
02:38:55,720 --> 02:38:58,240
Speaker 1: are gonna be so ultra important in this run game

3160
02:38:58,320 --> 02:39:01,119
Speaker 1: this year. John I'm jealous. I'm jealous that you get

3161
02:39:01,160 --> 02:39:03,240
Speaker 1: to go. Um. I understand why you get to go,

3162
02:39:03,280 --> 02:39:05,760
Speaker 1: because you just broke it down amazingly. Just now you are.

3163
02:39:05,879 --> 02:39:08,200
Speaker 1: You are the amazing when it comes to doing his

3164
02:39:08,280 --> 02:39:10,920
Speaker 1: analyst stuff. But I'm jealous because normally we at least

3165
02:39:10,959 --> 02:39:13,200
Speaker 1: to get to come to one or two practices and

3166
02:39:13,320 --> 02:39:15,039
Speaker 1: be in the sun and be out there and get

3167
02:39:15,080 --> 02:39:17,080
Speaker 1: a good view. Now, but I and we get to

3168
02:39:17,120 --> 02:39:20,080
Speaker 1: see the rookies. I would like a rookie report from you.

3169
02:39:20,200 --> 02:39:23,720
Speaker 1: You got you got Ross Black Whale, Blacklock, excuse me,

3170
02:39:24,600 --> 02:39:27,480
Speaker 1: you got John Grenard, you got John Reid, who I'm

3171
02:39:27,560 --> 02:39:30,200
Speaker 1: really excited about, really, and not only in the nickel

3172
02:39:30,280 --> 02:39:32,080
Speaker 1: in the outside maybe corner a little bit, but in

3173
02:39:32,120 --> 02:39:34,840
Speaker 1: the return game as well. You got Charlie Heck. And

3174
02:39:34,920 --> 02:39:37,360
Speaker 1: fun thing about Charlie Heck, I played for his dad

3175
02:39:37,440 --> 02:39:39,320
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville. He was offer as a line coach there,

3176
02:39:39,360 --> 02:39:41,920
Speaker 1: So I don't necessarily know Charlie, but I've seen him

3177
02:39:41,959 --> 02:39:44,120
Speaker 1: in our practice field tons of times, so it's weird

3178
02:39:44,200 --> 02:39:46,160
Speaker 1: to see him, maybe feel old. We're to see him

3179
02:39:46,160 --> 02:39:48,760
Speaker 1: getting drafted anyways, and then you guys are a culture,

3180
02:39:48,959 --> 02:39:51,280
Speaker 1: so there's a rookie report. How those guys doing. Are

3181
02:39:51,320 --> 02:39:53,920
Speaker 1: they adjusting Whale? Because it's different, it's a different offseason.

3182
02:39:54,200 --> 02:39:57,680
Speaker 1: Those guys really didn't get a lot of reps until now. Yeah,

3183
02:39:57,840 --> 02:40:00,320
Speaker 1: and on top of that, first of well, it's a

3184
02:40:00,320 --> 02:40:05,160
Speaker 1: small draft class. Secondly, they didn't sign a bunch undrafted rookies,

3185
02:40:05,520 --> 02:40:08,800
Speaker 1: and a good handful of the undrafted rookies that they

3186
02:40:09,640 --> 02:40:14,520
Speaker 1: signed they've now jettisoned to get to eighty man roster.

3187
02:40:14,600 --> 02:40:16,480
Speaker 1: And then they've jet you know, Jan Johnson was another

3188
02:40:16,520 --> 02:40:18,320
Speaker 1: one that just was let go so they could bring

3189
02:40:18,360 --> 02:40:23,199
Speaker 1: on Darren Bates, special teamer, special team star, and also

3190
02:40:23,240 --> 02:40:26,360
Speaker 1: Anthony Kukua the long snappers. So they don't have a

3191
02:40:26,440 --> 02:40:30,320
Speaker 1: ton of rookies on this team. But the first couple

3192
02:40:30,320 --> 02:40:33,240
Speaker 1: of days inside, Isaiah Coultered in practice and I just

3193
02:40:33,320 --> 02:40:37,760
Speaker 1: remember thinking, boh, this is not good rookie not practicing.

3194
02:40:38,280 --> 02:40:41,039
Speaker 1: Oh boy, this is gonna set Obi off. And then

3195
02:40:41,600 --> 02:40:43,600
Speaker 1: so so I don't know what's going on. I have

3196
02:40:43,760 --> 02:40:45,560
Speaker 1: no idea, and I'll tell you why I'm starting with

3197
02:40:45,600 --> 02:40:48,360
Speaker 1: him in a second. So I'm like, oh boy, Well,

3198
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:51,600
Speaker 1: then they go outside, they're still in full pads, and

3199
02:40:51,720 --> 02:40:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm like eighty two, Like that's a new number to

3200
02:40:53,760 --> 02:40:55,840
Speaker 1: what I've seen. I'm like, oh, oh, that's Coulter. Okay,

3201
02:40:55,879 --> 02:40:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep an eye on this guy. From that

3202
02:40:58,280 --> 02:41:01,400
Speaker 1: day forward, Isaiah Coulter has on something in every single

3203
02:41:01,480 --> 02:41:05,600
Speaker 1: practice where I'm like Yo, WHOA check this guy out.

3204
02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:07,960
Speaker 1: This guy can do some stuff. So today they're in

3205
02:41:08,040 --> 02:41:13,480
Speaker 1: one on ones and he runs I don't even think

3206
02:41:13,520 --> 02:41:15,160
Speaker 1: it was a stutter and go. I think he just

3207
02:41:15,280 --> 02:41:19,720
Speaker 1: ran the nine routes cecil and he runs right by

3208
02:41:19,840 --> 02:41:23,440
Speaker 1: the corner and I think it was corner Armstrong, but

3209
02:41:23,680 --> 02:41:25,520
Speaker 1: they don't quote me on that, so I'm not totally sure.

3210
02:41:26,360 --> 02:41:28,400
Speaker 1: But the key thing to me was when he went

3211
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:31,480
Speaker 1: by him, the corner was turning at that time, so

3212
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:36,920
Speaker 1: they were essentially even. And then Isaiah Coulter pulled away

3213
02:41:37,360 --> 02:41:39,880
Speaker 1: from him, and Deshaun was thrown at that point to

3214
02:41:40,040 --> 02:41:42,119
Speaker 1: in the one on ones and he's laid it out

3215
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:45,800
Speaker 1: there and Coulter just continued at tracking the ball in

3216
02:41:45,879 --> 02:41:49,280
Speaker 1: the air running away from the dB, snagged it for

3217
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:52,520
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I thought that gum, holy smokes. The only

3218
02:41:52,560 --> 02:41:55,720
Speaker 1: guy I've seen do that here is Will Fuller. Wow.

3219
02:41:56,120 --> 02:41:59,800
Speaker 1: So a little while later he ran a route and

3220
02:42:00,320 --> 02:42:03,000
Speaker 1: again I can't remember the dB was, but it was

3221
02:42:03,040 --> 02:42:05,280
Speaker 1: a nine route and they were in post safety coverage,

3222
02:42:05,280 --> 02:42:07,640
Speaker 1: so I know they're going to him, and so I've

3223
02:42:07,680 --> 02:42:09,840
Speaker 1: got my eyes on him and he is about to

3224
02:42:09,959 --> 02:42:12,760
Speaker 1: smoke the dB, and the dB grabbed him. So as

3225
02:42:13,160 --> 02:42:15,680
Speaker 1: Zaia was starting to stack him, the dB grabbed him

3226
02:42:16,280 --> 02:42:19,160
Speaker 1: and slowed him down. And when to shaw him threw

3227
02:42:19,200 --> 02:42:22,600
Speaker 1: it or aj threw it, you overthrew it. Coulter came

3228
02:42:22,640 --> 02:42:24,880
Speaker 1: back over to the sideline and Brandy Cooks spent like

3229
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:27,360
Speaker 1: two minutes with him, and I could hear everything that

3230
02:42:27,480 --> 02:42:29,200
Speaker 1: that Brandon was talking about, and he was just giving

3231
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:31,200
Speaker 1: them like little tips and hints. He's like, look, when

3232
02:42:31,240 --> 02:42:33,040
Speaker 1: you stack him, you want to do this, you know,

3233
02:42:33,200 --> 02:42:35,119
Speaker 1: kind of move out of his you know, a little

3234
02:42:35,120 --> 02:42:37,000
Speaker 1: bit out of his jurisdiction. So he's got to reach that.

3235
02:42:37,120 --> 02:42:39,560
Speaker 1: The ref can see it because Brandon knew what I knew,

3236
02:42:39,560 --> 02:42:43,040
Speaker 1: which was that was interference. But if you're officially you

3237
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:45,240
Speaker 1: might have been shielded by that. But I just thought

3238
02:42:45,640 --> 02:42:50,720
Speaker 1: with Coulter, I've been so impressed because I mean, I

3239
02:42:50,800 --> 02:42:53,199
Speaker 1: had seen him on film. He played for my former

3240
02:42:53,280 --> 02:42:55,959
Speaker 1: coach at Rhode Island, Jim Fleming, who's the head Coach's

3241
02:42:55,959 --> 02:42:58,000
Speaker 1: my defensive coordine A Brown. He's not the head coach

3242
02:42:58,040 --> 02:43:01,400
Speaker 1: at Rhode Island. He recruited Isaiah recruited his cousin as well.

3243
02:43:01,920 --> 02:43:04,000
Speaker 1: And when he recruited his cousin, his cousin told the

3244
02:43:04,040 --> 02:43:06,360
Speaker 1: coaches like, you gotta get my cousin, and he's like,

3245
02:43:06,400 --> 02:43:08,400
Speaker 1: who's Isaiah Coulter. He won't watch film. He's like, yeah,

3246
02:43:08,400 --> 02:43:10,200
Speaker 1: we gotta have that guy. I watched him on film

3247
02:43:10,240 --> 02:43:12,040
Speaker 1: and I saw him run away from dudes, and I'm like,

3248
02:43:12,600 --> 02:43:14,840
Speaker 1: this guy could play. But when I didn't see him

3249
02:43:14,840 --> 02:43:17,120
Speaker 1: for the first two days, I got worried. When I

3250
02:43:17,240 --> 02:43:19,320
Speaker 1: saw that, I was like, man, this class is a

3251
02:43:19,400 --> 02:43:23,880
Speaker 1: whole lot more physically gifted than anybody knows about. And

3252
02:43:24,000 --> 02:43:27,080
Speaker 1: it starts with Blacklock. When you see Blacklock, you're like,

3253
02:43:28,240 --> 02:43:32,440
Speaker 1: oh damn. Like he's not built like anybody the Texans

3254
02:43:32,480 --> 02:43:36,200
Speaker 1: have had. He's six three, he's three hundred. And the

3255
02:43:36,320 --> 02:43:40,040
Speaker 1: guy that I immediately saw when I saw him, and

3256
02:43:40,280 --> 02:43:42,320
Speaker 1: thank god Ross is not like this guy off the

3257
02:43:42,400 --> 02:43:46,080
Speaker 1: field is Robert kim Dchi. Robert kim Dchi played Old

3258
02:43:46,120 --> 02:43:48,120
Speaker 1: Miss then got into the league. He was a first

3259
02:43:48,200 --> 02:43:49,960
Speaker 1: round pick. He played for the Cardinals, but he had

3260
02:43:49,959 --> 02:43:52,120
Speaker 1: so many off the field stuff. He just never it

3261
02:43:52,280 --> 02:43:54,480
Speaker 1: was just so many issues with kim Dchi just never

3262
02:43:54,720 --> 02:43:58,800
Speaker 1: was gonna it was never gonna work. Blacklock has the

3263
02:43:59,040 --> 02:44:02,840
Speaker 1: same build and they they have the same attributes, like

3264
02:44:02,920 --> 02:44:04,920
Speaker 1: Kimdicio is playing a toes. I mean he played running

3265
02:44:04,920 --> 02:44:06,920
Speaker 1: back in high school. Two hundred and seventy five pounds.

3266
02:44:07,720 --> 02:44:11,000
Speaker 1: Ross is like that. He's agile, he can almost scrape

3267
02:44:11,080 --> 02:44:14,400
Speaker 1: like a linebacker. It's weird to watch. And he would

3268
02:44:14,440 --> 02:44:16,800
Speaker 1: do that TC and I'm like, man, once he gets

3269
02:44:16,879 --> 02:44:19,680
Speaker 1: really fully coached up on scheme how NFL guys do it,

3270
02:44:19,879 --> 02:44:23,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a penetrating monster. And you can see

3271
02:44:23,160 --> 02:44:26,160
Speaker 1: it when they run zone plays away from him. He

3272
02:44:26,400 --> 02:44:29,600
Speaker 1: either a blows up the guard depending on if he's

3273
02:44:29,640 --> 02:44:31,680
Speaker 1: a three technique and they run away, he blows up

3274
02:44:31,720 --> 02:44:34,400
Speaker 1: the guard and just runs right through him as he's

3275
02:44:34,480 --> 02:44:37,280
Speaker 1: running to the ball, or if he's the one, he

3276
02:44:37,480 --> 02:44:40,000
Speaker 1: just or he's a two eye, he just slips the

3277
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:41,680
Speaker 1: center in the guard and just runs right down the

3278
02:44:41,720 --> 02:44:43,520
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and meets the back at the line

3279
02:44:43,560 --> 02:44:48,280
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. He's that physically gifted and I mean just

3280
02:44:49,120 --> 02:44:53,760
Speaker 1: blow you away. So with Ross Blacklock and John Reid,

3281
02:44:54,040 --> 02:44:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean physically gifted. John Grenard's got he's got an

3282
02:44:58,120 --> 02:45:01,840
Speaker 1: ass the size of Houston, which I know that. You

3283
02:45:01,959 --> 02:45:03,480
Speaker 1: know when you hear that, you're like, well, that's not

3284
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:06,480
Speaker 1: a great thing. Well, yeah, it is. If you've seen

3285
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:09,920
Speaker 1: those really great athletes, you know, like Boasta, He's kind

3286
02:45:09,920 --> 02:45:12,240
Speaker 1: of built like Boasta, you Bosa, either one of them

3287
02:45:12,440 --> 02:45:17,959
Speaker 1: got that big but in thick legs and just uses

3288
02:45:18,120 --> 02:45:21,880
Speaker 1: that to you know, burst off the football. And I

3289
02:45:21,959 --> 02:45:24,080
Speaker 1: remember seeing him at the Senior Bowl and he was

3290
02:45:24,120 --> 02:45:27,039
Speaker 1: wearing basketball short so I never really could tell up close.

3291
02:45:27,720 --> 02:45:29,640
Speaker 1: But then I saw him the first practice and I'm like,

3292
02:45:29,800 --> 02:45:32,440
Speaker 1: oh damn. I was like, who brought the Kardashians here?

3293
02:45:32,480 --> 02:45:35,600
Speaker 1: Holy smokes. First pass rush, he comes off the line

3294
02:45:35,640 --> 02:45:39,920
Speaker 1: of scrimmage and he gets an edge and the tackles

3295
02:45:40,040 --> 02:45:42,880
Speaker 1: know what to do. He's bracing for a bullrush, and

3296
02:45:43,040 --> 02:45:46,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, John throws hands and rips underneath

3297
02:45:46,600 --> 02:45:48,880
Speaker 1: and goes inside clean for a sack. And I'm like,

3298
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:53,760
Speaker 1: holy cow. So these guys top the bottom, even Charlie Heck.

3299
02:45:53,879 --> 02:45:58,800
Speaker 1: All five guys physically, they fit the part. And I

3300
02:45:58,920 --> 02:46:03,000
Speaker 1: am convinced that as long as they stay healthy and

3301
02:46:03,200 --> 02:46:06,760
Speaker 1: they are available, all five will find a way to

3302
02:46:06,920 --> 02:46:10,080
Speaker 1: impact this team in some way. Now, with Coulter, there's

3303
02:46:10,160 --> 02:46:12,200
Speaker 1: a lot of veterans in front of him. I get it,

3304
02:46:12,680 --> 02:46:15,560
Speaker 1: But of those veterans, how many have we seen have

3305
02:46:15,760 --> 02:46:20,000
Speaker 1: injury problems. Well, this guy. If you remember Vincent Smith,

3306
02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:25,280
Speaker 1: Vincent was very athletic, extremely athletic. I don't know if

3307
02:46:25,360 --> 02:46:28,640
Speaker 1: Vincent was a great receiver, but he was really athletic.

3308
02:46:29,240 --> 02:46:32,720
Speaker 1: Isaiah Coulter is what we wanted Vincent Smith to be.

3309
02:46:33,840 --> 02:46:35,920
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Coulter will find his way on his

3310
02:46:36,080 --> 02:46:39,280
Speaker 1: field at some point when injuries hit that receiver corps

3311
02:46:39,640 --> 02:46:43,000
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make people put holy cow, this guy

3312
02:46:43,080 --> 02:46:45,640
Speaker 1: can play. So all five are going to find a

3313
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:48,199
Speaker 1: way to impact the team. The one doesn't is Charlie

3314
02:46:48,240 --> 02:46:50,640
Speaker 1: Heck I hope he sits on the bench all year

3315
02:46:50,680 --> 02:46:53,800
Speaker 1: long because that means that Titus Laramie both stayed both

3316
02:46:53,840 --> 02:46:58,280
Speaker 1: stayed healthy for all sixteen games. But you can see

3317
02:46:58,360 --> 02:47:00,320
Speaker 1: Charlie getting better every day. But the best thing happened

3318
02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:03,680
Speaker 1: for him, it's all year You just you're the swing tackle,

3319
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:06,520
Speaker 1: back up you Rod Johnson. You never go in a game,

3320
02:47:06,959 --> 02:47:08,680
Speaker 1: and hopefully that'll be what it is. It's a it's

3321
02:47:08,720 --> 02:47:11,400
Speaker 1: a year long apprenticeship. Year two, you're ready to go,

3322
02:47:11,560 --> 02:47:13,960
Speaker 1: and we hope to still not use you in year two.

3323
02:47:14,720 --> 02:47:17,520
Speaker 1: But at that point, Charlie Heck even has proved to

3324
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:19,600
Speaker 1: me like, Hey, this guy can do some things if

3325
02:47:20,120 --> 02:47:22,080
Speaker 1: he's asked to do it. I just hope he of

3326
02:47:22,200 --> 02:47:24,640
Speaker 1: the five is the one that's not asked to because

3327
02:47:24,640 --> 02:47:27,080
Speaker 1: that would mean that something happened to Laramier Titus. Yeah. Man,

3328
02:47:27,160 --> 02:47:29,640
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you have your thriller drolls,

3329
02:47:29,680 --> 02:47:32,560
Speaker 1: you don't want to have a mid round rookie playing

3330
02:47:32,600 --> 02:47:35,760
Speaker 1: offensive line in NFL. That's just usually not advisable. So

3331
02:47:36,200 --> 02:47:39,160
Speaker 1: I completely understand that situation. Right there. You're listening to

3332
02:47:39,560 --> 02:47:42,480
Speaker 1: the Texans Training Camp special presented by Exffinity here on

3333
02:47:42,520 --> 02:47:46,240
Speaker 1: Sports Radio sixteen. It's John Harris, Cecil short Time, Wade Smith,

3334
02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,320
Speaker 1: then and and John. A week ago, I filled in

3335
02:47:49,440 --> 02:47:53,280
Speaker 1: for Clint Sturner with a show in the afternoons and

3336
02:47:54,040 --> 02:47:55,920
Speaker 1: I said this thing to him, and I want you

3337
02:47:55,959 --> 02:47:58,560
Speaker 1: to see if if I'm crazy or if I'm onto

3338
02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:01,760
Speaker 1: something here. I said that if Duke Johnson and David

3339
02:48:01,879 --> 02:48:05,160
Speaker 1: Johnson get a total of thirty five touches in a

3340
02:48:05,280 --> 02:48:08,000
Speaker 1: game between the two of them, I contend that they

3341
02:48:08,040 --> 02:48:11,240
Speaker 1: will win that ball game. You can mark a dub

3342
02:48:11,360 --> 02:48:13,600
Speaker 1: up in the win column. I feel like, if that

3343
02:48:13,760 --> 02:48:15,720
Speaker 1: should be the goal each and every week that you

3344
02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:18,560
Speaker 1: get those two guys a total of thirty five catches

3345
02:48:18,600 --> 02:48:22,880
Speaker 1: between rushes and reception, and if you can hit that number,

3346
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:25,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna control the clock and you're gonna win those

3347
02:48:25,560 --> 02:48:28,680
Speaker 1: that ball game. Am I crazy for coming up with

3348
02:48:28,840 --> 02:48:31,400
Speaker 1: that line of thinking, No, I think you're dead on.

3349
02:48:32,000 --> 02:48:37,240
Speaker 1: I think you're dead on now. So here's here's my theory.

3350
02:48:37,280 --> 02:48:39,280
Speaker 1: And this came up yesterday when I was on with

3351
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:44,400
Speaker 1: with Sean and Clint. We were talking about twenty personnel,

3352
02:48:44,480 --> 02:48:47,199
Speaker 1: which for those people, a twenty personnel would be two backs.

3353
02:48:47,360 --> 02:48:50,600
Speaker 1: The zero applies to tight ends, so twenty personnel would

3354
02:48:50,600 --> 02:48:54,320
Speaker 1: be two backs and essentially three receivers. And Clint wants

3355
02:48:54,360 --> 02:48:58,240
Speaker 1: to get in that set all game long. And I

3356
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:01,600
Speaker 1: am absolutely completely not opposed to that at all. I've

3357
02:49:01,640 --> 02:49:03,800
Speaker 1: always I've said for a long time, if you have

3358
02:49:04,040 --> 02:49:07,680
Speaker 1: two backs that are amongst your top eleven guys on offense,

3359
02:49:08,680 --> 02:49:12,240
Speaker 1: put them out there together. Figure it out, especially if

3360
02:49:12,320 --> 02:49:14,680
Speaker 1: you have two guys like this that catch the ball

3361
02:49:14,760 --> 02:49:18,720
Speaker 1: as well as they do. So the Texans, by no

3362
02:49:18,920 --> 02:49:20,720
Speaker 1: means have shown that now, they've shown it in the

3363
02:49:20,879 --> 02:49:24,000
Speaker 1: past with other groups like they had. There was one

3364
02:49:24,040 --> 02:49:26,160
Speaker 1: time where they had Arian and Alfred Blue back. There

3365
02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:28,560
Speaker 1: together for just a little bit. Last year, they had

3366
02:49:28,640 --> 02:49:32,280
Speaker 1: Carlos and Duke together for a little bit. That wasn't

3367
02:49:32,280 --> 02:49:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna be as effective because you sort of knew, Okay,

3368
02:49:35,920 --> 02:49:38,040
Speaker 1: Duke's gonna go in motion. We'll treat him like a

3369
02:49:38,080 --> 02:49:40,480
Speaker 1: slot receiver. You know. It was more set what you're

3370
02:49:40,520 --> 02:49:42,680
Speaker 1: gonna do. Now if you put Duke and David together

3371
02:49:42,840 --> 02:49:46,240
Speaker 1: back there, now you have no idea like David could

3372
02:49:46,280 --> 02:49:48,840
Speaker 1: go in motion and Duke could stay there, and you've

3373
02:49:48,879 --> 02:49:50,440
Speaker 1: got to try and match up with all this, like,

3374
02:49:50,920 --> 02:49:53,840
Speaker 1: oh boy, this isn't fun because do you lead two

3375
02:49:53,920 --> 02:49:57,760
Speaker 1: linebackers on the field because they're twenty personnel, so I

3376
02:49:57,840 --> 02:49:59,520
Speaker 1: mean they literally could use one of them as a

3377
02:49:59,600 --> 02:50:03,360
Speaker 1: lead block, run lead zone, you know. Heck, they can

3378
02:50:03,440 --> 02:50:05,160
Speaker 1: run quarterback sweep with that and have them both of

3379
02:50:05,200 --> 02:50:07,000
Speaker 1: them as blockers that they wanted to. There's a lot

3380
02:50:07,000 --> 02:50:08,640
Speaker 1: of different things that you could do with that set.

3381
02:50:09,240 --> 02:50:11,640
Speaker 1: But because they're good receivers, you just shift one out

3382
02:50:11,720 --> 02:50:13,760
Speaker 1: or you motion one out. All of a sudden, you've

3383
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:16,360
Speaker 1: got a passing You got a passing game advantage depending

3384
02:50:16,360 --> 02:50:19,360
Speaker 1: on who goes with him and what they do. Man,

3385
02:50:19,440 --> 02:50:21,400
Speaker 1: that could open some things up for your The wide receiver.

3386
02:50:21,480 --> 02:50:23,200
Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot they could do in

3387
02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:28,800
Speaker 1: that particular package with Duke and David together. So that

3388
02:50:28,959 --> 02:50:32,600
Speaker 1: could lead to with Duke and David together getting to

3389
02:50:32,720 --> 02:50:35,520
Speaker 1: that thirty five touch Mark Wade. I think it could

3390
02:50:36,080 --> 02:50:38,560
Speaker 1: really yield that that they could get there. And if

3391
02:50:38,600 --> 02:50:40,680
Speaker 1: you're thinking, wait, thirty five touches, that's a lot. Well

3392
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:44,320
Speaker 1: if you go, if you go twelve carries for David

3393
02:50:44,879 --> 02:50:48,480
Speaker 1: four catches, let me just start there, or say, I

3394
02:50:48,480 --> 02:50:52,480
Speaker 1: don't know, go a little further, go fourteen carries, four catches,

3395
02:50:53,120 --> 02:50:59,360
Speaker 1: give Duke twelve twelve carries, and you give him four catches.

3396
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:01,640
Speaker 1: Well you're there, right, it's my math right on that,

3397
02:51:01,720 --> 02:51:05,240
Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty close. Um, I think first and foremost,

3398
02:51:05,320 --> 02:51:08,440
Speaker 1: you gotta look at David. David Johnson needs to get

3399
02:51:09,160 --> 02:51:12,040
Speaker 1: at least sixteen rushes, like fifteen is like bare minimum.

3400
02:51:12,160 --> 02:51:14,320
Speaker 1: But he's got to run the ball, you know, fifteen

3401
02:51:14,520 --> 02:51:17,560
Speaker 1: to eighteen times a game and catch the ball you know,

3402
02:51:17,800 --> 02:51:20,880
Speaker 1: four to six times a game. Four is a perfect

3403
02:51:20,959 --> 02:51:22,560
Speaker 1: number for him, and four is a perfect number for

3404
02:51:22,959 --> 02:51:25,920
Speaker 1: for David. So if you're due, excuse me, So between

3405
02:51:25,959 --> 02:51:27,879
Speaker 1: the two, if you got eight catches, now you got

3406
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:30,280
Speaker 1: to figure out another twenty seven touches. All right, give

3407
02:51:30,320 --> 02:51:33,200
Speaker 1: me give me sixteen carries for one and give me

3408
02:51:33,400 --> 02:51:34,800
Speaker 1: nine for the other, you know what I mean, or

3409
02:51:35,120 --> 02:51:37,400
Speaker 1: eleven for the other, whatever it may be. If you,

3410
02:51:37,520 --> 02:51:40,440
Speaker 1: if you, if you work that scenario, I feel like

3411
02:51:40,640 --> 02:51:42,880
Speaker 1: this offense is gonna work at its best and be

3412
02:51:42,959 --> 02:51:45,560
Speaker 1: its most productive and keep a lot of those teams

3413
02:51:45,640 --> 02:51:48,879
Speaker 1: like the Kent City Chiefs and the Baltimore Ravens, keep

3414
02:51:49,000 --> 02:51:52,400
Speaker 1: in in the Pittsburgh Steelers, these teams that have offenses

3415
02:51:52,480 --> 02:51:55,600
Speaker 1: that can just destroy you and put you out of

3416
02:51:55,640 --> 02:51:57,400
Speaker 1: a ball game very very early, put you in your

3417
02:51:57,480 --> 02:52:00,600
Speaker 1: out of your mystery very early. Those guys controlling the

3418
02:52:01,440 --> 02:52:03,720
Speaker 1: clock and with the offensive line that can control the

3419
02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:06,080
Speaker 1: line of screamers. To me, that's the best way you

3420
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:08,560
Speaker 1: got to approach those teams to come out with doves.

3421
02:52:08,760 --> 02:52:10,400
Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right way. And when you think

3422
02:52:10,400 --> 02:52:11,840
Speaker 1: about it, I know a lot of people, you know,

3423
02:52:12,440 --> 02:52:15,920
Speaker 1: we all get excited about speed. We right, we I mean, oh,

3424
02:52:16,000 --> 02:52:17,280
Speaker 1: this got runs four three. When you look at the

3425
02:52:17,320 --> 02:52:19,720
Speaker 1: receiver corlling, Oh man, we're about to turn up to juice.

3426
02:52:19,760 --> 02:52:23,320
Speaker 1: Here we go. And that's true, that's that's I'm not

3427
02:52:24,440 --> 02:52:27,959
Speaker 1: wanting anybody to not be excited about that. But when

3428
02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:31,920
Speaker 1: you think about Bill O'Brien, you think about this offensive line,

3429
02:52:32,360 --> 02:52:36,000
Speaker 1: and you think about those two backs, there's no way

3430
02:52:36,080 --> 02:52:39,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna get away from the run game none whatsoever.

3431
02:52:39,560 --> 02:52:43,840
Speaker 1: And if David Johnson can stay healthy, then I think

3432
02:52:43,959 --> 02:52:47,240
Speaker 1: they're going to stick to that run game for as

3433
02:52:47,400 --> 02:52:50,600
Speaker 1: long as teams are unable to stop it. And Wade,

3434
02:52:50,640 --> 02:52:53,280
Speaker 1: you're right when you're facing the Chiefs, when you're facing

3435
02:52:53,320 --> 02:52:55,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens that game Week six last year, we went

3436
02:52:55,959 --> 02:52:59,760
Speaker 1: to Kansas City. Last year. The best defense for Pat

3437
02:53:00,040 --> 02:53:02,160
Speaker 1: Holmes that day was not the defense he faced. It

3438
02:53:02,280 --> 02:53:04,560
Speaker 1: was the Texans running game. And I talked to Bill

3439
02:53:04,560 --> 02:53:06,520
Speaker 1: at halftime. I always get, you know, his thoughts. I

3440
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:09,000
Speaker 1: want this year, But I said to him, you know,

3441
02:53:09,000 --> 02:53:10,520
Speaker 1: you run the ball pretty well the first half. He

3442
02:53:10,560 --> 02:53:13,440
Speaker 1: looked at me, he goes, Johnny, the thirtieth rank run

3443
02:53:13,560 --> 02:53:15,119
Speaker 1: defense in the league. You said, of course, we're gonna

3444
02:53:15,160 --> 02:53:17,840
Speaker 1: run the rock and he's like, you know what that means?

3445
02:53:17,879 --> 02:53:19,560
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, it runs the clock. It

3446
02:53:19,640 --> 02:53:23,240
Speaker 1: keeps that offense on the sideline. Absolutely, there's no doubt

3447
02:53:23,320 --> 02:53:25,920
Speaker 1: in my mind that they are still gonna pound the

3448
02:53:26,040 --> 02:53:29,039
Speaker 1: rock with David Johnson as the league guy and then

3449
02:53:29,160 --> 02:53:33,240
Speaker 1: Duke as the compliment to him. But I still think

3450
02:53:33,280 --> 02:53:35,560
Speaker 1: you can put both them back there and they're gonna

3451
02:53:35,600 --> 02:53:37,680
Speaker 1: get I mean, like you said, way, if you did

3452
02:53:37,680 --> 02:53:40,840
Speaker 1: the numbers on this, David's anywhere from fifteen to seventeen,

3453
02:53:41,160 --> 02:53:44,360
Speaker 1: you get Duke anywhere from nine to eleven, and you

3454
02:53:44,440 --> 02:53:46,920
Speaker 1: know Deshawn's gonna get three to four carries a game too,

3455
02:53:47,480 --> 02:53:50,800
Speaker 1: So you throw all that in and typically Deshawn's runs

3456
02:53:50,920 --> 02:53:54,640
Speaker 1: end up being for either first downs or he runs

3457
02:53:54,680 --> 02:53:56,520
Speaker 1: on a first down, picks up seven or eight yards,

3458
02:53:56,560 --> 02:53:59,320
Speaker 1: setting up second and short or third and short, something

3459
02:53:59,360 --> 02:54:02,800
Speaker 1: of that magnets. So they're not going to get away

3460
02:54:02,840 --> 02:54:07,200
Speaker 1: from the run game. And I'm completely completely fine with that.

3461
02:54:07,480 --> 02:54:09,440
Speaker 1: And then as the game wears on, now you forced

3462
02:54:09,440 --> 02:54:11,760
Speaker 1: the defense like, all right, we're gonna keep getting in

3463
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Speaker 1: this two back personnel, and what are you gonna do.

3464
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:17,199
Speaker 1: You're gonna put another linebacker out there to help stop Well, okay,

3465
02:54:17,600 --> 02:54:19,560
Speaker 1: now we're gonna have to throw all these fast guys,

3466
02:54:19,640 --> 02:54:22,400
Speaker 1: oh darn it. So you're just gonna be able to,

3467
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Speaker 1: I think, dictate to teams, to defenses what you want

3468
02:54:28,240 --> 02:54:31,040
Speaker 1: to do better than you ever have since Bill has

3469
02:54:31,080 --> 02:54:33,000
Speaker 1: gotten here in twenty fourteen. That's kind of what I

3470
02:54:33,080 --> 02:54:35,480
Speaker 1: see with this offense. But as you mentioned, Wade, I

3471
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3580
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Speaker 1: Sideline reporter and football analyst John Harris, along with Cecil

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Speaker 1: Shortsim Wade Smith, and before the break, I brought up

3583
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Speaker 1: the fact that Sean Pendergas, one half of Painting Pendergasta,

3584
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Speaker 1: on the morning morning show here on Sports Trade sixteen.

3585
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Speaker 1: He put out an article last week in the Houston

3586
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Speaker 1: Press and it was the first version of the fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster, and of course the first version

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Speaker 1: of anything, especially when it comes to a fifty three

3589
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Speaker 1: man roster, there's gonna be some some some names on

3590
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Speaker 1: that list that probably showed themselves to be doing a

3591
03:01:53,959 --> 03:01:56,840
Speaker 1: great job early in training camp, but things change as

3592
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Speaker 1: each practice comes and goes. And so I want to

3593
03:02:00,080 --> 03:02:03,680
Speaker 1: to get John Harris's thought process on how he thinks

3594
03:02:03,760 --> 03:02:06,160
Speaker 1: this fifty three man roster is gonna shape up. And

3595
03:02:06,240 --> 03:02:09,240
Speaker 1: when you look at a roster, you know that probably

3596
03:02:09,440 --> 03:02:14,680
Speaker 1: the top thirty six to forty guys, those guys are

3597
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the roster. There's really no discrepancy there.

3598
03:02:17,480 --> 03:02:21,240
Speaker 1: It's like the back end, the bottom, you know, guy

3599
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Speaker 1: number fifty three to about forty five, forty six around there.

3600
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Speaker 1: Those are those are gonna be the guys that are

3601
03:02:27,160 --> 03:02:31,480
Speaker 1: really fighting for jobs and So one of the positions

3602
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Speaker 1: that I really feel like UM is going to be

3603
03:02:35,160 --> 03:02:38,680
Speaker 1: some stiff competition to figure out, for one, how many

3604
03:02:38,760 --> 03:02:41,360
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be in that position spot and who

3605
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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be is the tight end spot.

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Speaker 1: I look at the tight end position, I feel like

3607
03:02:45,840 --> 03:02:48,840
Speaker 1: Darren Felds, Jordan Aikins, and Jordan Thomas, those three guys

3608
03:02:48,879 --> 03:02:51,760
Speaker 1: are set. Those guys you know are gonna be on

3609
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Speaker 1: this roster. But then after that, you got a drafted

3610
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Speaker 1: guy last year and Kylie Wearing that is just now

3611
03:02:58,280 --> 03:03:00,560
Speaker 1: kind of seeing the field. He missed a bunch of

3612
03:03:00,600 --> 03:03:02,720
Speaker 1: time last year and he's missing time this year so

3613
03:03:02,879 --> 03:03:04,720
Speaker 1: far on training camp, but now he's back on the field.

3614
03:03:05,120 --> 03:03:08,160
Speaker 1: He got guys like Dylan Stapleton that's being mentioned by

3615
03:03:08,959 --> 03:03:11,720
Speaker 1: the head coaching press conferences and apparently he's having a

3616
03:03:11,800 --> 03:03:13,440
Speaker 1: hell of a training camp. Just when you look at

3617
03:03:13,480 --> 03:03:16,240
Speaker 1: that position, John, is that a spot that you say,

3618
03:03:17,160 --> 03:03:19,520
Speaker 1: looking at it in tortality, this spot is gonna for

3619
03:03:19,640 --> 03:03:23,240
Speaker 1: sure half four players at this at this position group

3620
03:03:23,360 --> 03:03:26,240
Speaker 1: or could it possibly go with three? And if it's

3621
03:03:26,280 --> 03:03:28,520
Speaker 1: gonna be three, we know who those guys are gonna be.

3622
03:03:28,560 --> 03:03:30,800
Speaker 1: But if it's gonna be four. Who was that fourth

3623
03:03:30,840 --> 03:03:33,640
Speaker 1: guy gonna be for the Texas? You know, I sat

3624
03:03:33,680 --> 03:03:36,440
Speaker 1: down fifty three man roster at some point today during

3625
03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:39,640
Speaker 1: special teams because you know who watched his special teams

3626
03:03:39,640 --> 03:03:43,320
Speaker 1: in practice. Although Brian Anger did hit absolute bombs today,

3627
03:03:43,360 --> 03:03:45,080
Speaker 1: so I had to stop and I finished it later on.

3628
03:03:45,200 --> 03:03:47,240
Speaker 1: And the tight end position was the one I did

3629
03:03:47,400 --> 03:03:53,960
Speaker 1: last because I was convinced last year. I watched OTA's

3630
03:03:53,959 --> 03:03:56,400
Speaker 1: a mini camp and I told Mark Vandermer, I said,

3631
03:03:56,640 --> 03:03:58,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep fells. They're keeping four tight ends. And

3632
03:03:59,040 --> 03:04:01,280
Speaker 1: he said, no, they're not keeping four tightens. I said,

3633
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Speaker 1: you watch mcclaim poop poo did all training. Can they're

3634
03:04:04,520 --> 03:04:06,120
Speaker 1: not gonna keep four, not gonna keep four? I said,

3635
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you're gonna keep four. And then all of

3636
03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:11,360
Speaker 1: a sudden two of them get hurt and you're left

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03:04:11,400 --> 03:04:14,080
Speaker 1: with two. And it was like the injuries sort of

3638
03:04:14,879 --> 03:04:17,080
Speaker 1: solve the problem. Now I don't want that to be

3639
03:04:17,200 --> 03:04:21,760
Speaker 1: the case this year. What helps this tight end group

3640
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Speaker 1: and it also is so tight end to everything else too,

3641
03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:28,920
Speaker 1: because it's like, okay, if let's see you, let's say you, Okay,

3642
03:04:28,959 --> 03:04:31,600
Speaker 1: we've got to keep four tight ends because if we

3643
03:04:31,760 --> 03:04:36,600
Speaker 1: put Wearing out on waivers, somebody's gonna snap him up.

3644
03:04:37,120 --> 03:04:41,360
Speaker 1: Somebody's absolutely gonna snatch him up. So man, I don't

3645
03:04:41,440 --> 03:04:43,920
Speaker 1: know that I want to do that now. The flip

3646
03:04:44,000 --> 03:04:47,840
Speaker 1: side of that is, was Stapleton because it's this year's

3647
03:04:47,959 --> 03:04:50,800
Speaker 1: draft class, there weren't a lot of teams that had

3648
03:04:50,840 --> 03:04:54,240
Speaker 1: a chance to work him out. Their scouts saw him,

3649
03:04:54,959 --> 03:04:57,280
Speaker 1: but I don't know how much teams are gonna know

3650
03:04:57,320 --> 03:04:59,320
Speaker 1: about him. You almost have a better chance of putting

3651
03:04:59,320 --> 03:05:02,480
Speaker 1: Stapleton on waivers and getting him back on the practice

3652
03:05:02,520 --> 03:05:04,720
Speaker 1: squad because my guess is they're on a lot of

3653
03:05:04,760 --> 03:05:08,040
Speaker 1: teams that really kind of had their eye on him

3654
03:05:08,200 --> 03:05:10,760
Speaker 1: based on no pro day and the fact he played

3655
03:05:10,800 --> 03:05:13,080
Speaker 1: at FCS program now is a really good FCS program,

3656
03:05:13,440 --> 03:05:17,440
Speaker 1: but Stapleton's played very very well. Wearing is one heck

3657
03:05:17,520 --> 03:05:19,480
Speaker 1: of an athlete, and he's a third round draft pick,

3658
03:05:19,760 --> 03:05:21,680
Speaker 1: and since he was hurt last year, he kind of

3659
03:05:21,720 --> 03:05:23,800
Speaker 1: want to see what he's able to do. But I

3660
03:05:23,959 --> 03:05:26,560
Speaker 1: struggle trying to figure out, Man, are they gonna keep four?

3661
03:05:27,240 --> 03:05:30,080
Speaker 1: If they keep four, does that mean they keep six

3662
03:05:30,160 --> 03:05:33,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers or they keep five? Okay, well, if they

3663
03:05:34,040 --> 03:05:37,840
Speaker 1: keep four tight ends in five wide receivers, who gets

3664
03:05:38,680 --> 03:05:41,640
Speaker 1: who gets cut at the wide receiver position because I'm

3665
03:05:41,680 --> 03:05:46,760
Speaker 1: not confident in picking somebody off that top six. Man,

3666
03:05:47,000 --> 03:05:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. So then I'm like, okay, well, let's

3667
03:05:49,400 --> 03:05:53,200
Speaker 1: let that bleed down into a different position. Maybe they'll

3668
03:05:53,280 --> 03:05:56,240
Speaker 1: keep six wide receivers four tight ends, but then maybe

3669
03:05:56,360 --> 03:05:59,440
Speaker 1: they'll not take an extra defensive alignment. But I'm like,

3670
03:06:00,160 --> 03:06:01,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I don't want to really take

3671
03:06:01,879 --> 03:06:06,000
Speaker 1: away from the defensive line, considering they're already know no

3672
03:06:06,200 --> 03:06:08,760
Speaker 1: DJ reader this year, I probably need as many bodies

3673
03:06:08,879 --> 03:06:12,360
Speaker 1: up there, and of course you know that that group

3674
03:06:12,480 --> 03:06:15,280
Speaker 1: is going to get beat up throughout the season. You

3675
03:06:15,440 --> 03:06:18,560
Speaker 1: need to have depth there. So I'm like, man, where

3676
03:06:19,160 --> 03:06:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know where I can see another position where

3677
03:06:22,120 --> 03:06:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel good maybe taking one less or even two

3678
03:06:24,840 --> 03:06:29,920
Speaker 1: less than I have previously. So I think there's to

3679
03:06:30,120 --> 03:06:35,600
Speaker 1: me the top three. It's a decision on Wearing and Stapleton. Now,

3680
03:06:35,720 --> 03:06:40,200
Speaker 1: what saves you this year is the fact that you

3681
03:06:40,400 --> 03:06:43,560
Speaker 1: can put a guy on practice squad. You can have

3682
03:06:43,680 --> 03:06:48,160
Speaker 1: sixteen guys on practice squad, four of them you can protect.

3683
03:06:49,520 --> 03:06:53,200
Speaker 1: So what happens in a normal situation is as soon

3684
03:06:53,240 --> 03:06:56,080
Speaker 1: as the season's over, you have to. You have to

3685
03:06:56,200 --> 03:06:57,760
Speaker 1: waive a guy, you have to get rid of him,

3686
03:06:57,760 --> 03:07:00,280
Speaker 1: and he's subject to waivers. Anybody can pick those guys

3687
03:07:00,400 --> 03:07:03,240
Speaker 1: up at any point once they're subject to waivers, and

3688
03:07:03,400 --> 03:07:05,680
Speaker 1: snatch him up and put them on their fifty three

3689
03:07:05,720 --> 03:07:08,560
Speaker 1: man roster. That's what happened aj More a few years ago.

3690
03:07:08,600 --> 03:07:11,280
Speaker 1: We did that and brought him here, buddy, how same thing.

3691
03:07:11,800 --> 03:07:13,959
Speaker 1: Snatch him up off waivers, put him on our roster.

3692
03:07:14,680 --> 03:07:16,720
Speaker 1: Some team might do that if you put if you

3693
03:07:16,800 --> 03:07:19,720
Speaker 1: put Wearing out of waivers. But now, because of the

3694
03:07:19,840 --> 03:07:22,520
Speaker 1: four that you can keep protected, you could say, look,

3695
03:07:23,160 --> 03:07:26,440
Speaker 1: these three guys have more experience, they have better overall camps,

3696
03:07:26,800 --> 03:07:29,400
Speaker 1: they've stayed healthier. But we're not giving up on you.

3697
03:07:29,840 --> 03:07:31,840
Speaker 1: But you're not making a fifty three man roster. We're

3698
03:07:31,840 --> 03:07:33,840
Speaker 1: gonna put you on a practice squad and we're gonna

3699
03:07:33,879 --> 03:07:36,400
Speaker 1: protect you. You're one of the four guys we're protecting.

3700
03:07:37,280 --> 03:07:39,280
Speaker 1: I could see that being the case that you keep

3701
03:07:39,360 --> 03:07:43,199
Speaker 1: the three you protect. Wearing and then Stapleton. You hate

3702
03:07:43,240 --> 03:07:46,280
Speaker 1: it because he's been really good, you know, have been

3703
03:07:46,400 --> 03:07:48,560
Speaker 1: drill Adams last year. He's really good. But you just

3704
03:07:49,080 --> 03:07:51,200
Speaker 1: run out of numbers, and so maybe you try and

3705
03:07:51,240 --> 03:07:54,680
Speaker 1: bring Stapleton back on the twelve guys that make the

3706
03:07:54,760 --> 03:07:57,240
Speaker 1: practice squad in addition to those four. That's a way

3707
03:07:57,280 --> 03:07:59,680
Speaker 1: you can keep all five tight ends around. They've all

3708
03:07:59,760 --> 03:08:02,640
Speaker 1: had really good camps. I know the offense. They could

3709
03:08:02,680 --> 03:08:04,920
Speaker 1: fit in pretty well, all of them, and so that

3710
03:08:05,040 --> 03:08:07,560
Speaker 1: way you keep them all on hand and all ready

3711
03:08:07,600 --> 03:08:09,680
Speaker 1: to go if you need them. So that's kind of

3712
03:08:09,720 --> 03:08:11,800
Speaker 1: what I think they may end up doing at tight end.

3713
03:08:13,160 --> 03:08:17,560
Speaker 1: Keep three, put Wearing on the protected practice squad of

3714
03:08:17,760 --> 03:08:20,400
Speaker 1: those four, and then let Stapleton go through the waiver

3715
03:08:20,560 --> 03:08:23,360
Speaker 1: process and hopefully bring him back onto the regular practice squad.

3716
03:08:23,720 --> 03:08:26,480
Speaker 1: That kind of that kind of solves. I don't say everything,

3717
03:08:27,040 --> 03:08:28,840
Speaker 1: but that's kind of the way I've done it in

3718
03:08:28,920 --> 03:08:30,440
Speaker 1: my mind, and I feel good about it, so I'm

3719
03:08:30,480 --> 03:08:32,560
Speaker 1: going with it. John, you make a good point there

3720
03:08:32,600 --> 03:08:35,199
Speaker 1: where you talk about the fact that you know, Stapleton

3721
03:08:35,360 --> 03:08:37,040
Speaker 1: is a guy that came out of the draft and

3722
03:08:37,120 --> 03:08:39,560
Speaker 1: so nobody really saw him, and so it might be

3723
03:08:39,600 --> 03:08:42,040
Speaker 1: a little bit more difficult for someone to take a

3724
03:08:42,160 --> 03:08:44,760
Speaker 1: chance on them as far as the waiver wire because

3725
03:08:45,080 --> 03:08:47,080
Speaker 1: they hadn't had to see them. But do you think

3726
03:08:47,440 --> 03:08:50,360
Speaker 1: but do you think that because of the scenario that's

3727
03:08:50,400 --> 03:08:53,680
Speaker 1: in right now. Do you think that there's more monitoring

3728
03:08:53,840 --> 03:08:56,920
Speaker 1: of what coaches are saying about their players in their

3729
03:08:56,959 --> 03:09:01,199
Speaker 1: particular training camps so that other teams can say, well,

3730
03:09:01,520 --> 03:09:03,560
Speaker 1: I know we haven't seen this guy, but you know,

3731
03:09:03,640 --> 03:09:05,760
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien was really talking this guy up a couple

3732
03:09:05,800 --> 03:09:08,280
Speaker 1: of weeks ago in training camp, and apparently it's having

3733
03:09:08,320 --> 03:09:10,000
Speaker 1: to be a camp out there. Do you think that

3734
03:09:10,120 --> 03:09:13,440
Speaker 1: there's more of that going on this year by the

3735
03:09:13,520 --> 03:09:16,160
Speaker 1: Texans and by other teams, because that's what you have

3736
03:09:16,280 --> 03:09:18,360
Speaker 1: to do, because there's not going to be that film

3737
03:09:18,720 --> 03:09:22,120
Speaker 1: to try to figure it out that way from preseason games. Wait,

3738
03:09:22,240 --> 03:09:24,960
Speaker 1: I can absolutely, without a doubt guarantee you and I

3739
03:09:25,080 --> 03:09:28,600
Speaker 1: can tell you who ends up taking some grief because

3740
03:09:28,640 --> 03:09:33,560
Speaker 1: of that. And that's yours truly, because I write Harris hits,

3741
03:09:33,640 --> 03:09:38,200
Speaker 1: which are basically my observations from practice, and there's stuff

3742
03:09:38,280 --> 03:09:40,720
Speaker 1: you're going to read the stuff that I write. You're like, man,

3743
03:09:40,879 --> 03:09:42,560
Speaker 1: he's talking about a lot of guys that have been

3744
03:09:42,680 --> 03:09:45,120
Speaker 1: here for the most part, or that I know are

3745
03:09:45,200 --> 03:09:47,920
Speaker 1: locks to make the roster. The guys that I will

3746
03:09:48,080 --> 03:09:50,760
Speaker 1: not put in there, that have sort of learned over

3747
03:09:50,840 --> 03:09:54,080
Speaker 1: the years with discussions with Rick Smith, Brian Gaine, Bill

3748
03:09:54,120 --> 03:10:01,039
Speaker 1: O'Brian across the way, you know. And it's funny because

3749
03:10:01,040 --> 03:10:04,000
Speaker 1: they're like, look, you know what's going on. You see it,

3750
03:10:04,520 --> 03:10:06,720
Speaker 1: and we know you want to tell the fans what's

3751
03:10:06,760 --> 03:10:09,280
Speaker 1: going on and all that kind of stuff. But every

3752
03:10:09,360 --> 03:10:12,160
Speaker 1: team in the league is reading that article that we

3753
03:10:12,320 --> 03:10:16,400
Speaker 1: face every team, he goes, I promise you every team is,

3754
03:10:16,480 --> 03:10:18,400
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know I know that because with

3755
03:10:18,480 --> 03:10:20,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots we did the same thing, and then Brian

3756
03:10:20,600 --> 03:10:22,360
Speaker 1: would say with the Dolphins and the Bills, we did

3757
03:10:22,440 --> 03:10:25,360
Speaker 1: the same thing. There's no doubt in my mind. I

3758
03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:31,000
Speaker 1: have been about, as it's the right way of saying this,

3759
03:10:31,760 --> 03:10:33,920
Speaker 1: I have watched myself there. I can't tell you how

3760
03:10:33,959 --> 03:10:35,920
Speaker 1: many times that I've written a whole paragraph and I've

3761
03:10:35,959 --> 03:10:38,800
Speaker 1: looked at it and gone, what if the Titans see that?

3762
03:10:40,160 --> 03:10:43,119
Speaker 1: If the you know what if the Colts see that? Man?

3763
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Speaker 1: I have been so ultra conservative with it because of

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Speaker 1: that for that particular reason. So you know what I

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Speaker 1: found myself doing. I find myself reading everything the Colts

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Speaker 1: have and seeing if there's a name in there, like

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Speaker 1: oh man, okay, this guy's doing some good things, or

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Speaker 1: this guy's doing some good things. Maybe these are guys

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Speaker 1: we need to keep it ony. I guarantee you it's

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Speaker 1: this way. It's been this way for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Every team. I guarantee you, if it's the pro scouts

3772
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Speaker 1: or if the pro scouting coordinators or whomever, those guys

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Speaker 1: are all responsible for one of the thirteen teams, if

3774
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Speaker 1: not two of the thirteen teams that we play, and

3775
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Speaker 1: they're reading everything. They're looking at the beat writers, they're

3776
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Speaker 1: looking at they're looking at my stuff. They're looking So

3777
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Speaker 1: if it's somebody or if it's some team looking at us,

3778
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you McLean is up on their tweet deck.

3779
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you Aaron Reeses, Aaron Wilson for sure, because

3780
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Speaker 1: Aaron is all about transactions and who practices and who doesn't.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing I will not. I will not put

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Speaker 1: in there who's practiced who hasn't. When Vincent Smith was

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Speaker 1: a rookie, I didn't we are at the Greenbrier. I

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Speaker 1: didn't write his name one time in my observation, but

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Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna make the team. And I

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Speaker 1: knew that if I put his name there and he

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Speaker 1: didn't make the team, somebody you know, somebody you might

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Speaker 1: see it snatch it up. I just was so self

3789
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Speaker 1: conscious of that after all the years of discussions about it,

3790
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Speaker 1: and I totally get it. I completely get it. I

3791
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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to put a name out there. And also

3792
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Speaker 1: it's like, hey, man, this guy's been getting a lot

3793
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Speaker 1: of kudos each and every time that they do something.

3794
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Speaker 1: You know, and there's there's some teams that have high

3795
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Speaker 1: profile individuals that I've met or I know pretty well,

3796
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Speaker 1: so they know that if I'm writing about them, then

3797
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Speaker 1: there must be something to it. Now. I've also over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, I've also planted a few

3799
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Speaker 1: just to see if I could catch somebody with it

3800
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Speaker 1: that I've put out there that may or may not

3801
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Speaker 1: have happened a little subterfuge, But yeah, I think I

3802
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Speaker 1: guarantee you teams are this year. If they've never done

3803
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3804
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Speaker 1: much guarantee that all thirty two teams were doing it

3805
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Speaker 1: prior to And it doesn't mean that they can't do

3806
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Speaker 1: their own work or they don't know who's on the team,

3807
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Speaker 1: but man, any small piece of information that can just

3808
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3809
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Speaker 1: I liked this guy in the draft, we weren't able

3810
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3812
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Speaker 1: Let's jump on that, and maybe something they've read or

3813
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Speaker 1: heard just solidifies that for them, like he's doing down

3814
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Speaker 1: in camp what we expected. And the thing is is

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Speaker 1: a lot of times the preseason games end up being

3816
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3817
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Speaker 1: be as self conscious about that with no preseason games,

3818
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3819
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Speaker 1: where we got a number of good looks at guys

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Speaker 1: Who did we go against was the forty nine ers. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember we Oh we played a preseason game

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3829
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Speaker 1: I already knew that I had to be very, very

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Speaker 1: So I've been very careful about some of the things

3834
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Speaker 1: that have happened at practice for that exact reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you make some great points there, Johnny. I'll tell you what, man,

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Speaker 1: I threw it out there before the break. Earl Thomas

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Speaker 1: a at a place soon and that he's always been,

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Speaker 1: you know, a high character guy that's given him great

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Speaker 1: exes and those thoughts, not if he's gonna be here

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Speaker 1: or not, John, because I know you don't make those

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Speaker 1: and os. What would it look like if Earl Thomas

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Speaker 1: you you paired Errol Thomas at safety with Justin Reid? Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's a boy. It's an interesting look. Um, there's no

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Speaker 1: kind of a curiosity for me from that safety position,

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Speaker 1: and that is will Eric Murray? And I don't think

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Speaker 1: we know this shit. Is Eric Murray gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to be a guy that if the safeties have to

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Speaker 1: interchange that Eric Murray is a guy based on shift's

3957
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Speaker 1: motion and he comes up to line of scrimmage. Is

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Speaker 1: he gonna be a guy that comes up and can

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Speaker 1: make tackles at the line of scrimmas like we know

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Speaker 1: Justin Reid? Can you know is he gonna be I

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Speaker 1: don't want him to be an enforcer, you know, but

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Speaker 1: is he gonna be a guy that can come up

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Speaker 1: there and you know, outside zone backsticks his foot in

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Speaker 1: is that something that he's gonna be able to do

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Speaker 1: and do effectively? Because I think the ability interchange is

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Speaker 1: giving away coverages, You're not giving away some of the things.

3970
03:22:08,080 --> 03:22:10,880
Speaker 1: Because if all the time, if Eric Murray has to

3971
03:22:10,959 --> 03:22:12,720
Speaker 1: be in the back all the time and Justin Reid

3972
03:22:12,840 --> 03:22:15,040
Speaker 1: has to be upfront because he's going to be the

3973
03:22:15,120 --> 03:22:17,600
Speaker 1: run enforcer, then I think it ends up being and

3974
03:22:17,640 --> 03:22:19,880
Speaker 1: then you get you I don't say predictable, but you

3975
03:22:20,000 --> 03:22:22,880
Speaker 1: start seeing those transit teams can start taking advantage of it.

3976
03:22:23,640 --> 03:22:25,920
Speaker 1: With Earl. The way that Earl could play in the

3977
03:22:26,040 --> 03:22:29,200
Speaker 1: middle of the field, man, you could play some you

3978
03:22:29,240 --> 03:22:31,040
Speaker 1: could play some serious cover one. Put Earl in the

3979
03:22:31,080 --> 03:22:32,760
Speaker 1: middle of the field and let that range go to work.

3980
03:22:33,120 --> 03:22:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean, would that would be fun? I mean the

3981
03:22:36,879 --> 03:22:39,720
Speaker 1: way that he can bait quarterbacks and read their eyes.

3982
03:22:39,840 --> 03:22:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I go back to interception that Earl had

3983
03:22:42,200 --> 03:22:45,640
Speaker 1: against DeShawn in twenty seventeen, is a third down throw

3984
03:22:46,240 --> 03:22:48,040
Speaker 1: and Earl's just playing a Robert in the middle of

3985
03:22:48,040 --> 03:22:50,160
Speaker 1: the field, and he just read Deshawn's eyes and shout.

3986
03:22:50,280 --> 03:22:51,840
Speaker 1: De Shann's eyes just took him right through the ball.

3987
03:22:52,240 --> 03:22:54,200
Speaker 1: He jumped the dig route and then want seventy five

3988
03:22:54,240 --> 03:22:56,800
Speaker 1: to the house. You know that'd be kind of nice, right,

3989
03:22:57,000 --> 03:22:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean to have that back in the secondary. A

3990
03:22:59,560 --> 03:23:03,720
Speaker 1: guy with that now the question to me, and and

3991
03:23:04,280 --> 03:23:07,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think anybody was able to gauge

3992
03:23:07,680 --> 03:23:10,640
Speaker 1: anything out of the game we had against Baltimore last

3993
03:23:10,720 --> 03:23:14,160
Speaker 1: year at all, So I don't you know, I couldn't

3994
03:23:14,160 --> 03:23:16,160
Speaker 1: tell you just watching him up front whether it looks

3995
03:23:16,160 --> 03:23:18,600
Speaker 1: like he's lost a step or not or what. I know.

3996
03:23:18,680 --> 03:23:21,840
Speaker 1: People have been putting some things on Twitter, But man,

3997
03:23:22,600 --> 03:23:25,200
Speaker 1: what you could do with a pass rush that I

3998
03:23:25,320 --> 03:23:27,440
Speaker 1: think you're gonna be able to throw out there? You

3999
03:23:27,520 --> 03:23:30,080
Speaker 1: could go cover one that Thomas being the middle, let

4000
03:23:30,160 --> 03:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Justin Man up on a tight end, and you could

4001
03:23:32,320 --> 03:23:35,240
Speaker 1: go to work that. To me, of all the xs

4002
03:23:35,240 --> 03:23:37,160
Speaker 1: and those things that you could do with Earl Thomas

4003
03:23:37,640 --> 03:23:39,320
Speaker 1: might end up being the best thing you could do,

4004
03:23:39,840 --> 03:23:41,720
Speaker 1: because that guy playing the middle of the middle of

4005
03:23:41,720 --> 03:23:45,800
Speaker 1: the field free three quarterbacks eyes and just roaming allah

4006
03:23:45,959 --> 03:23:49,200
Speaker 1: ed Reid man, that would be kind of nice. That

4007
03:23:49,240 --> 03:23:51,400
Speaker 1: would be kind of nice just from that perspective. Now,

4008
03:23:52,440 --> 03:23:56,240
Speaker 1: I don't know that it happens. I don't think it happens.

4009
03:23:56,640 --> 03:23:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like Dallas will jump all over it,

4010
03:23:59,000 --> 03:24:01,039
Speaker 1: but I mean I think before you do it, there

4011
03:24:01,040 --> 03:24:03,680
Speaker 1: would probably be some pretty serious due diligence and all

4012
03:24:03,720 --> 03:24:07,520
Speaker 1: of that. But it was a little surprising that, yeah,

4013
03:24:07,600 --> 03:24:10,760
Speaker 1: he's had some issues, but the fact that he had

4014
03:24:10,840 --> 03:24:13,440
Speaker 1: this one to fighting practice and he's gone. I mean,

4015
03:24:13,520 --> 03:24:15,400
Speaker 1: there might be some stuff behind the scenes that might

4016
03:24:15,480 --> 03:24:18,000
Speaker 1: not be very good. But like you said above my

4017
03:24:18,120 --> 03:24:20,240
Speaker 1: pay grade, I think about cover one with Earl Thomas

4018
03:24:20,280 --> 03:24:21,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, that might be some

4019
03:24:21,520 --> 03:24:24,000
Speaker 1: fun for this defense. I've got a few questions for you.

4020
03:24:24,080 --> 03:24:26,600
Speaker 1: We got about four minutes before we in this segment,

4021
03:24:26,760 --> 03:24:29,280
Speaker 1: so you can keep him between forty fast seconds or so.

4022
03:24:30,400 --> 03:24:32,160
Speaker 1: But here we go a J. Moore. According to your

4023
03:24:32,360 --> 03:24:34,800
Speaker 1: Harris Hits right, you can findal Houston Texas dot com.

4024
03:24:35,080 --> 03:24:37,080
Speaker 1: You do a great job with that. AJ Moore has

4025
03:24:37,120 --> 03:24:41,000
Speaker 1: been making play after play after play. Can he have

4026
03:24:41,160 --> 03:24:43,959
Speaker 1: a bigger role on this defense? I think so yes,

4027
03:24:44,680 --> 03:24:46,680
Speaker 1: And I know people were like, well, if that were

4028
03:24:46,720 --> 03:24:49,160
Speaker 1: the case, he would have done it last year. Well

4029
03:24:49,680 --> 03:24:52,520
Speaker 1: he did. If you're paying attention in certain packages he

4030
03:24:52,600 --> 03:24:55,040
Speaker 1: came into the game, he would come into the game.

4031
03:24:55,120 --> 03:24:57,199
Speaker 1: I think it dime. He might play that money spot

4032
03:24:57,280 --> 03:25:00,240
Speaker 1: and dime. And he made a couple of big play

4033
03:25:00,320 --> 03:25:02,560
Speaker 1: for this team down and stretch. So I think aj

4034
03:25:04,240 --> 03:25:07,520
Speaker 1: Ken factor into this defense a little bit more. Worst case,

4035
03:25:07,879 --> 03:25:09,640
Speaker 1: you're one of the best special teamers in the league.

4036
03:25:09,800 --> 03:25:12,200
Speaker 1: But I think he can end up playing safety for

4037
03:25:12,320 --> 03:25:13,720
Speaker 1: this team at some point. Now. I don't think he

4038
03:25:13,720 --> 03:25:15,360
Speaker 1: could start, but I think if you've got to go

4039
03:25:15,520 --> 03:25:18,400
Speaker 1: to aj like you did Terrell Adams last year, you

4040
03:25:18,400 --> 03:25:20,440
Speaker 1: went to Terrell Adams, say hey man, you gotta start

4041
03:25:20,640 --> 03:25:23,200
Speaker 1: Bernards out of this Tampa Bay game. Terrell Adams steps

4042
03:25:23,240 --> 03:25:25,440
Speaker 1: in six tackles, played pretty solid in the middle. I

4043
03:25:25,520 --> 03:25:27,080
Speaker 1: think you could do that with a guy like j Moore.

4044
03:25:27,840 --> 03:25:29,560
Speaker 1: All Right, so you got your four by one relay

4045
03:25:29,640 --> 03:25:32,879
Speaker 1: with the receivers, you got Fuller, Kugs, Cob and Steels.

4046
03:25:32,920 --> 03:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Who is your five and who is your six? If

4047
03:25:35,120 --> 03:25:40,680
Speaker 1: they keep six? Do I have to stay with the receivers? Yes? Okay,

4048
03:25:41,040 --> 03:25:46,200
Speaker 1: M Coulter for sure. Culter can run. I don't think people.

4049
03:25:46,480 --> 03:25:49,160
Speaker 1: I mean he runs. I mean he's running away from

4050
03:25:49,240 --> 03:25:52,680
Speaker 1: guys and that's a football running away from guy. So

4051
03:25:53,480 --> 03:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Coulter's five going through receiver corps. I mean, I guess

4052
03:25:57,080 --> 03:25:59,560
Speaker 1: Kiki's gotta be six. Trying to think they don't have

4053
03:25:59,600 --> 03:26:02,640
Speaker 1: a ton other receiver. I mean, you know, Chad Hanson

4054
03:26:02,680 --> 03:26:05,120
Speaker 1: can run a lot better than people think. Yea, um,

4055
03:26:06,160 --> 03:26:09,080
Speaker 1: but you know, appearances and all that kind of stuff.

4056
03:26:09,120 --> 03:26:12,480
Speaker 1: But I would probably play Keki six guy just think quickness, explosiveness,

4057
03:26:12,520 --> 03:26:15,360
Speaker 1: probably that'd be yeah. But Coulter is definitely my five.

4058
03:26:15,800 --> 03:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Definitely talk to me about Lonnie Johnson. How important is he?

4059
03:26:18,560 --> 03:26:20,400
Speaker 1: Because to me, he can be a hybrid, right, he

4060
03:26:20,440 --> 03:26:22,800
Speaker 1: can play safety, he can play corner, he can play

4061
03:26:22,879 --> 03:26:25,440
Speaker 1: over your your tight end and man coverage. Talk to

4062
03:26:25,520 --> 03:26:27,920
Speaker 1: me how about how important That's probably gonna be the

4063
03:26:27,959 --> 03:26:30,240
Speaker 1: last questions you can take a time with. How important

4064
03:26:30,440 --> 03:26:33,200
Speaker 1: is Lonnie Johnson to this second? Dary Well you said it, see,

4065
03:26:33,240 --> 03:26:35,080
Speaker 1: so I mean he can he could cover. You know,

4066
03:26:35,160 --> 03:26:37,600
Speaker 1: there's a big play at Kansas City game that you know,

4067
03:26:37,680 --> 03:26:40,160
Speaker 1: we talk about it a lot because it was the

4068
03:26:40,320 --> 03:26:44,520
Speaker 1: momentum piece for Kansas City and that was Mico Hardman's

4069
03:26:44,600 --> 03:26:47,680
Speaker 1: kickoff return well, Lonnie ran him down and got him

4070
03:26:47,680 --> 03:26:50,280
Speaker 1: to the sideline. He tweaked his ankle, and prior to

4071
03:26:50,440 --> 03:26:52,480
Speaker 1: that line was doing a decent job on Kelsey, not

4072
03:26:52,640 --> 03:26:54,800
Speaker 1: not great, but decent. And look, Kelsey's gonna get his

4073
03:26:55,160 --> 03:26:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the best of the game.

4074
03:26:56,840 --> 03:26:59,840
Speaker 1: But Lonnie tweaked that ankle and try to you know,

4075
03:27:00,080 --> 03:27:02,400
Speaker 1: he's the gamer. He's trying to gut it out and

4076
03:27:03,160 --> 03:27:06,160
Speaker 1: it just didn't. It didn't go well from that point

4077
03:27:06,240 --> 03:27:09,080
Speaker 1: on because of the ankle and also because Kelsey is

4078
03:27:09,160 --> 03:27:12,600
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. But I've said along, I think Lonnie

4079
03:27:13,760 --> 03:27:16,840
Speaker 1: is as interesting a chess piece, and I feel like

4080
03:27:16,920 --> 03:27:18,640
Speaker 1: the more chess pieces you have that you can put

4081
03:27:18,720 --> 03:27:20,840
Speaker 1: out there, like Okay, we can move Lonnie here and

4082
03:27:20,959 --> 03:27:23,600
Speaker 1: do this. You know, JJ's the ultimate chess piece up

4083
03:27:23,640 --> 03:27:26,480
Speaker 1: front because you can move him anywhere upfront where you want.

4084
03:27:26,800 --> 03:27:28,640
Speaker 1: I Charles a manna who could be a nice chess

4085
03:27:28,680 --> 03:27:31,160
Speaker 1: piece up front. Zach Cuttingham is a linebacker, is a

4086
03:27:31,200 --> 03:27:33,320
Speaker 1: guy you can move to a million different spots. But

4087
03:27:33,520 --> 03:27:37,760
Speaker 1: Lonnie because he has experienced covering outside guys and he's

4088
03:27:37,959 --> 03:27:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, in that Chiefs playoff game, he's essentially playing safety.

4089
03:27:41,920 --> 03:27:45,760
Speaker 1: So you know he's covered tight ends. He can do

4090
03:27:45,879 --> 03:27:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of different things for the only the only

4091
03:27:48,200 --> 03:27:51,240
Speaker 1: player I really wouldn't want Lonnie to cover would be

4092
03:27:51,680 --> 03:27:56,160
Speaker 1: like a Beasley Edelman, you know, Randall cop type. I

4093
03:27:56,200 --> 03:27:59,280
Speaker 1: wouldn't really want him inside. That'd be the only spot

4094
03:27:59,320 --> 03:28:02,200
Speaker 1: I really wouldn't I wouldn't want Lonnie to be. I

4095
03:28:02,320 --> 03:28:05,920
Speaker 1: said this the other day to Clinton Sean. I think,

4096
03:28:06,959 --> 03:28:10,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't seen the Texas do this. I

4097
03:28:10,160 --> 03:28:12,640
Speaker 1: wouldn't have any problem with it. I would be surprised

4098
03:28:12,680 --> 03:28:15,840
Speaker 1: at any point, especially against the Chiefs, if the Texas

4099
03:28:15,959 --> 03:28:19,000
Speaker 1: rolled out seven dbs and said, all right, Pat run

4100
03:28:19,080 --> 03:28:22,600
Speaker 1: the ball. All right, will you do it? Will he

4101
03:28:22,680 --> 03:28:25,040
Speaker 1: run the ball? And they put up sevent dbs out

4102
03:28:25,080 --> 03:28:27,800
Speaker 1: on the field. Now, the Chargers along two years ago

4103
03:28:27,840 --> 03:28:30,200
Speaker 1: played seventybs against the Ravens because they wanted to have

4104
03:28:30,280 --> 03:28:32,680
Speaker 1: speed on the field to stop of Lamar. I think

4105
03:28:32,720 --> 03:28:34,320
Speaker 1: he put seven dbs out on the field. And the

4106
03:28:34,360 --> 03:28:36,440
Speaker 1: thing is is one of those is Lonnie so well?

4107
03:28:36,520 --> 03:28:39,119
Speaker 1: He becomes your you know, he becomes your linebacker next

4108
03:28:39,120 --> 03:28:42,680
Speaker 1: to Zach or b Mack or whomever's out there. But Darren,

4109
03:28:43,400 --> 03:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Darren Patrick, how long are you going to continue to

4110
03:28:46,000 --> 03:28:48,320
Speaker 1: hand the football off. Will you do it all game? Long?

4111
03:28:48,640 --> 03:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Play seven dbs against him to see what you can do.

4112
03:28:50,800 --> 03:28:53,120
Speaker 1: And you could do something like that because you would

4113
03:28:53,120 --> 03:28:55,160
Speaker 1: have a guy like Lonnie who could be kind of

4114
03:28:55,320 --> 03:28:59,600
Speaker 1: linebacker sixty ft nickel, whatever hybrid. You could have some

4115
03:28:59,640 --> 03:29:01,840
Speaker 1: opper needs to do some things like that. So if

4116
03:29:01,879 --> 03:29:04,680
Speaker 1: you see sevent dbs against Kansas City, just know that

4117
03:29:04,720 --> 03:29:09,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver was listening to me right now. That's Texans

4118
03:29:09,480 --> 03:29:12,800
Speaker 1: sideline reporter John Harrison. Before we get out of here, John,

4119
03:29:13,160 --> 03:29:15,400
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this question, man. When the news

4120
03:29:15,480 --> 03:29:18,080
Speaker 1: came out from the NFL that there was gonna be

4121
03:29:18,240 --> 03:29:21,560
Speaker 1: no sideline reporters this season, did you cry at the

4122
03:29:22,080 --> 03:29:24,800
Speaker 1: tier or two? I did? I did for two minutes.

4123
03:29:24,840 --> 03:29:26,879
Speaker 1: I was probably as depressed as I've been all year away.

4124
03:29:27,040 --> 03:29:28,680
Speaker 1: And then Mark called me and said, no, no, you

4125
03:29:28,760 --> 03:29:31,920
Speaker 1: just won't be on the sideline. You'll be like maybe

4126
03:29:31,959 --> 03:29:34,240
Speaker 1: in the first row of the stands. I'm like, that's

4127
03:29:34,280 --> 03:29:37,400
Speaker 1: a better seat anyways, it actually is. Yeah. I'm like

4128
03:29:37,800 --> 03:29:41,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, hell, yeah, let's go sou So there won't

4129
03:29:41,920 --> 03:29:45,920
Speaker 1: be any true sideline reporters, but I'm gonna turn myself

4130
03:29:46,000 --> 03:29:48,280
Speaker 1: into Section one on nine reporter and IM and I'll

4131
03:29:48,320 --> 03:29:51,640
Speaker 1: be okay with that. I think, I think, I think, yeah,

4132
03:29:51,640 --> 03:29:53,480
Speaker 1: we'll see how we'll see how it plays out. Such

4133
03:29:53,480 --> 03:29:56,320
Speaker 1: a weird year anyways, But when I saw that news Wade,

4134
03:29:56,440 --> 03:29:59,800
Speaker 1: I I just like I did circles in my office like,

4135
03:30:00,120 --> 03:30:01,959
Speaker 1: oh my god. I mean, I used some bad words

4136
03:30:01,959 --> 03:30:06,080
Speaker 1: you can't say per FCC guidelines. But then Mark Callin

4137
03:30:06,240 --> 03:30:07,720
Speaker 1: was like, no, it's okay. Here's what we're gonna do.

4138
03:30:07,760 --> 03:30:09,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna be fine. I was like, oh, all right,

4139
03:30:09,879 --> 03:30:12,160
Speaker 1: we're good. We're good, We're good, We're good. It's like

4140
03:30:12,200 --> 03:30:14,280
Speaker 1: I had to share the entire house who just listened

4141
03:30:14,280 --> 03:30:16,920
Speaker 1: to me vent for five minutes that everything was all right.

4142
03:30:17,000 --> 03:30:20,480
Speaker 1: So yeah, we'll be okay, we'll survive, and hopefully the

4143
03:30:20,560 --> 03:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Texans will do the same. Well, I'm glad that Vandy

4144
03:30:22,720 --> 03:30:25,120
Speaker 1: was there to calm you down. And I appreciate you

4145
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Speaker 1: skill level wise from DeAndre Carter. I think he can

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Speaker 1: And look at the Houston Texans are two and a

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Speaker 1: half weeks away from playing the Kents City Chiefs, and

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Speaker 1: this is the weirdest intro or beginning to a season

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Speaker 1: that there's ever been since I've been watching a sport.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, we know that there's actually

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Speaker 1: gonna be ball. So I'm excited about the fact that

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Speaker 1: the first game that's gonna be out there is going

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Speaker 1: to be the Houston Texans against the Kanna City Chiefs.

4274
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Speaker 1: And you're seeing some of the teams that the Texans

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Speaker 1: are playing against, a lot of them are having issues

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Speaker 1: with their roster, and it's actually bolstering kind of what

4277
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Speaker 1: the Texans outlooks should be coming into certain some of

4278
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Speaker 1: these games. You look at the kNs Chiefs, Dbshaw Brelan,

4279
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Speaker 1: he's acting a damn fool out there, so he's not

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Speaker 1: he's for sure not going to be there. He's got

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Speaker 1: suspended for four games, he might get more than that.

4282
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Speaker 1: He's not going to be there in game. And it

4283
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Speaker 1: was something off the field. I don't like a lot

4284
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Speaker 1: of stuff like that. I see it and I'm like, yeah,

4285
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Speaker 1: he's tripping off the field. He's he's he's he's destroying

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Speaker 1: his contract right now. He's destroying his opportunity to make

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Speaker 1: money for himself and his family. So I'm gonna keep

4288
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Speaker 1: it pushing and focus on the guys of the day.

4289
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Speaker 1: I feel like a coach when I get to that point.

4290
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Speaker 1: I'm like, if we're gonna focus on the guys that

4291
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Speaker 1: are here, but they're in the room. But he's having

4292
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Speaker 1: his issues. Tyreek Hill had a little injury situation that happened.

4293
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Speaker 1: I believe a couple of hamstrings with a situation, So

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Speaker 1: you don't know if you're gonna get him at full

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Speaker 1: speed in two and a half weeks. So just looking

4296
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Speaker 1: at the teams that the Texans are playing against, you

4297
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Speaker 1: talk about the Baltimore Ravens and Earl Thomas and he's

4298
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Speaker 1: no longer on the Ravens Rogers. That's the first two

4299
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Speaker 1: games of the season. Like when you look at the

4300
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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and looking at what's happened with them

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Speaker 1: this off season, how do you think that affects the

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Speaker 1: Texans On open to night, Well, not even thinking about

4303
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Speaker 1: this off season, just thinking about the way it ended

4304
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Speaker 1: for the Texans last year. You had a chance to

4305
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Speaker 1: talk to Justin Reid via the we actually talked about

4306
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Speaker 1: earlier in the show, the Virtual training Camp, and he

4307
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Speaker 1: was not holding back when he says, we're ready to

4308
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Speaker 1: see Kansas City. Somebody asking it, what's your favorite game

4309
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Speaker 1: or what game are you looking forward to? He said,

4310
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Speaker 1: Kansas City? What even letting finish, they are hungry to

4311
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Speaker 1: get some revenge and go on the arrowhead and smack them,

4312
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Speaker 1: smack them in the head like they just they just

4313
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Speaker 1: know they let something slip out of their hands, you

4314
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Speaker 1: know what I mean, And they're just ready to go

4315
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Speaker 1: SNI even by the all season stuff, I'm confident these

4316
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Speaker 1: guys are gonna come in and there's and to be fair,

4317
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Speaker 1: there's going to be mental airs, there's going to be

4318
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Speaker 1: a little rustum, there's going to be some penalties here.

4319
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Speaker 1: And they're on both sides on a lot of on

4320
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Speaker 1: a lot of teams this year, because you really don't

4321
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Speaker 1: have game experience until you actually play the game, right,

4322
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Speaker 1: But I think these guys have come out there and

4323
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Speaker 1: they're gon come out there firing on all cylinders. How

4324
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Speaker 1: much okay do you think right now? It's personal with them?

4325
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Speaker 1: It sounds like to me with Justin Reid is personal

4326
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Speaker 1: and I was one of those. Because not everybody takes

4327
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Speaker 1: things personally when they play the game in football. Some

4328
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4329
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Speaker 1: It's a business whatever it is. But there's certain teams

4330
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Speaker 1: in certain situations where you take it personally. Anytime you

4331
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Speaker 1: play it on one roster and you play against one

4332
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Speaker 1: of your old teams, those games are always personal. You

4333
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Speaker 1: feel like that this game for the Houston Texans is

4334
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Speaker 1: gonna be a personal game against the Chiefs. Absolutely. I

4335
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Speaker 1: think I was the same way like you. I took

4336
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Speaker 1: everything person That's how I stay motivated, That's how that's

4337
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Speaker 1: how I stay up for every single game. If I

4338
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Speaker 1: looked at it though this is just a business, no, no, no, no,

4339
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Speaker 1: I need to to be able to get up because

4340
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Speaker 1: it's going to be some games where it's like, uh,

4341
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Speaker 1: we don't feel like playing right. But if I can

4342
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Speaker 1: take things personal and find a way to get motivated

4343
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Speaker 1: via or whatever the case may be, somebody's quote, somebody's tweet,

4344
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Speaker 1: somebody's uh, you know they say it's division right, or

4345
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Speaker 1: the Texas for example, loose, I'm gonna take that personal.

4346
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Speaker 1: That still bothers me like, every when you just said

4347
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Speaker 1: that again, I got a little I got a little

4348
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Speaker 1: tingle in my neck. I'm like, every time somebody brings

4349
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Speaker 1: it up, I get upset. And I ain't playing the game.

4350
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Speaker 1: I was just I was just watching the game at home.

4351
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Speaker 1: If I'm getting upset at home, I would think that

4352
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Speaker 1: the guys in the locker room are getting upset when

4353
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Speaker 1: and I think somebody asked JJ that question is I

4354
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Speaker 1: think I remember listening to a press conference where they

4355
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Speaker 1: asked him, you know, do you get up more for

4356
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Speaker 1: the Kenna City Chiefs game based off of what happened

4357
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Speaker 1: last year? And he gave the absolute politically correct answer.

4358
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Speaker 1: If if you need, if you need to get up,

4359
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Speaker 1: if you need any extra motivation to get up for

4360
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Speaker 1: any game, there's something wrong with you. And that's that's

4361
03:41:38,040 --> 03:41:40,040
Speaker 1: the right thing to say. But I know, good and

4362
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Speaker 1: damn it's the farthest thing from the truth. JJ is

4363
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Speaker 1: one of those dudes that takes things personally. Will never

4364
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Speaker 1: say it outwardly, YEA gonna say that, but he takes

4365
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Speaker 1: things personally. So if you don't think that the guys

4366
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Speaker 1: in the locker room, a lot of them that were

4367
03:41:54,400 --> 03:41:56,760
Speaker 1: there last year taking things personally. They might say, you

4368
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Speaker 1: will tell you one thing, but it's something different when

4369
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Speaker 1: it comes down to come down listening all week. First

4370
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Speaker 1: of all, the pre game speeches are all gonna talk

4371
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Speaker 1: about it. They all can bring it up throughout the week.

4372
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Speaker 1: Coach is gonna bring it up. They might even show film. Yeah,

4373
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to look at the film. That's the

4374
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Speaker 1: last that's the last time, absolutely right. So that film

4375
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Speaker 1: is gonna get thoroughly perused and why oh yeah, oh yeah,

4376
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Speaker 1: and then all the memories gonna come back to your head.

4377
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Speaker 1: It's definitely personal. It's it's no doubt a body you

4378
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Speaker 1: are going to get up for this game just simply

4379
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Speaker 1: because of what happened last year and how things transpired.

4380
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Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's something that if you always

4381
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Speaker 1: circle some games on your schedule when it first comes out,

4382
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Speaker 1: but this game probably gotta circled three, four or five

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Speaker 1: times just because Okay, number one is the biggest game,

4384
03:42:40,879 --> 03:42:43,520
Speaker 1: it's the first game, it's opening night, nobody else is playing,

4385
03:42:43,600 --> 03:42:47,879
Speaker 1: but you only ticket in town. Baby. Number two it's primetime.

4386
03:42:47,920 --> 03:42:51,280
Speaker 1: But number three it's the team that you let come back.

4387
03:42:51,440 --> 03:42:54,120
Speaker 1: You lets I say that you let you or you

4388
03:42:54,440 --> 03:42:57,960
Speaker 1: had your hand or your foot on the neck, nothing

4389
03:42:58,040 --> 03:42:59,520
Speaker 1: and you let it up. So they're they're gonna be

4390
03:42:59,560 --> 03:43:01,240
Speaker 1: coming right to go. Man, I'm excited to see it,

4391
03:43:01,520 --> 03:43:03,879
Speaker 1: Like you said, I'm excited to see football. Man. Yeah,

4392
03:43:04,080 --> 03:43:06,800
Speaker 1: Like it kind of doesn't feel like camp season almost

4393
03:43:06,879 --> 03:43:09,520
Speaker 1: like my body feels that way. I don't know. For me,

4394
03:43:09,640 --> 03:43:11,360
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, when it's camp more or something that

4395
03:43:11,480 --> 03:43:13,160
Speaker 1: happens to me and I'm just like I kind of

4396
03:43:13,200 --> 03:43:14,920
Speaker 1: get up a little earlier. I gotta go get it.

4397
03:43:15,480 --> 03:43:17,920
Speaker 1: It's just something that happens, and it doesn't feel that

4398
03:43:17,920 --> 03:43:19,640
Speaker 1: way because you can get not see nothing on TV

4399
03:43:19,800 --> 03:43:22,680
Speaker 1: or not allowed that camp, but certain things going on. Well,

4400
03:43:22,720 --> 03:43:25,040
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be ready. Man, I'll tell you what. Man,

4401
03:43:25,120 --> 03:43:27,360
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the week one opponent, of course, the

4402
03:43:27,440 --> 03:43:31,400
Speaker 1: Kanpa City Chiefs, the Baltimore Ravens. Man, like Baltimore, you

4403
03:43:31,560 --> 03:43:34,320
Speaker 1: lose or you let go of Earl Thomas. They brought

4404
03:43:34,400 --> 03:43:36,800
Speaker 1: in Dez Bryant the other day to do a workout.

4405
03:43:36,840 --> 03:43:39,360
Speaker 1: He didn't sign anything, but he's he's got his workout in.

4406
03:43:39,800 --> 03:43:42,040
Speaker 1: And the Baltimore Ravens made some moves in the off

4407
03:43:42,080 --> 03:43:45,280
Speaker 1: season to kind of improve their defense. They got Klais

4408
03:43:45,320 --> 03:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Campbell in the building, like, how do you how do

4409
03:43:47,240 --> 03:43:51,240
Speaker 1: you feel like their offseason went for them? And what

4410
03:43:51,480 --> 03:43:53,320
Speaker 1: is that gonna mean when the Texans have to match

4411
03:43:53,440 --> 03:43:55,200
Speaker 1: up with them in Week two the first home game

4412
03:43:55,840 --> 03:43:58,520
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans. Besides Earl Thomas, I think it

4413
03:43:58,560 --> 03:44:01,400
Speaker 1: went pretty good. Yeah, I mean I think, um, when

4414
03:44:01,720 --> 03:44:05,040
Speaker 1: you never I think for them, they had high expectations

4415
03:44:05,760 --> 03:44:07,640
Speaker 1: based off the regular season, so when it gets to

4416
03:44:07,640 --> 03:44:09,400
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's like, all right, it's kind of let

4417
03:44:09,480 --> 03:44:13,400
Speaker 1: down being one and done. Um. And then I think

4418
03:44:13,520 --> 03:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Lamar came out and said, we kind of took you know,

4419
03:44:15,800 --> 03:44:17,600
Speaker 1: kind of took it took him lightly, It took him

4420
03:44:17,680 --> 03:44:19,440
Speaker 1: lightly or whatever he said, which is interesting to me.

4421
03:44:19,600 --> 03:44:21,400
Speaker 1: That bothered me, which is interesting to me because you

4422
03:44:21,440 --> 03:44:22,920
Speaker 1: never want to do that. You never can do that,

4423
03:44:23,360 --> 03:44:25,560
Speaker 1: you especially not in this league. You you can't do

4424
03:44:25,680 --> 03:44:28,560
Speaker 1: this the playoffs. And it just speaks It spoke to

4425
03:44:28,640 --> 03:44:30,720
Speaker 1: how immature he still is, right, how how young he

4426
03:44:30,840 --> 03:44:33,080
Speaker 1: still is that he can he can think that, oh

4427
03:44:33,240 --> 03:44:35,000
Speaker 1: well we'll beat this team, we'll worry about where we

4428
03:44:35,040 --> 03:44:37,000
Speaker 1: play next. But it wasn't just him. I think the

4429
03:44:37,160 --> 03:44:40,640
Speaker 1: problem isn't This is the problem when you got NFL

4430
03:44:40,720 --> 03:44:43,480
Speaker 1: players and just professional athletes talking with the media, A

4431
03:44:43,560 --> 03:44:45,640
Speaker 1: lot of times you want them to be completely and

4432
03:44:45,680 --> 03:44:48,480
Speaker 1: brutally honest with you, but at the same time, you

4433
03:44:48,560 --> 03:44:50,920
Speaker 1: don't want them to shoot themselves in the foot. And

4434
03:44:51,000 --> 03:44:53,960
Speaker 1: so from from the perspective of me as a former player,

4435
03:44:53,959 --> 03:44:55,520
Speaker 1: I would I would be like, they don't ever tell

4436
03:44:55,640 --> 03:44:57,560
Speaker 1: him that. Don't tell him that we that could be

4437
03:44:57,760 --> 03:44:59,800
Speaker 1: very well the case, and I believe it was the

4438
03:45:00,120 --> 03:45:01,800
Speaker 1: it's because he wouldn't have said it if it wasn't true.

4439
03:45:01,840 --> 03:45:03,879
Speaker 1: You don't just throw something like that out there because

4440
03:45:03,879 --> 03:45:06,520
Speaker 1: it makes you look bad. But I wish you wouldn't

4441
03:45:06,560 --> 03:45:08,800
Speaker 1: have put that out there and said it said that,

4442
03:45:09,000 --> 03:45:12,560
Speaker 1: because that just shows the lack of maturity that they

4443
03:45:12,640 --> 03:45:14,680
Speaker 1: had approaching the game and approaching an opponent like the

4444
03:45:14,760 --> 03:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans and they end up getting beat. They were

4445
03:45:17,360 --> 03:45:20,960
Speaker 1: a much better team for sixteen weeks prior to that,

4446
03:45:21,160 --> 03:45:23,480
Speaker 1: or seventeen weeks prior to that, and then they went

4447
03:45:23,520 --> 03:45:25,880
Speaker 1: out there and lay the egg against the Titaness. M

4448
03:45:26,840 --> 03:45:28,760
Speaker 1: you're talking about somebody might have a chip on the shoulder.

4449
03:45:28,760 --> 03:45:30,600
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be the Ravens because They're gonna have

4450
03:45:30,640 --> 03:45:33,080
Speaker 1: to go out there and prove a chip on Lamar

4451
03:45:33,200 --> 03:45:36,240
Speaker 1: jackson shoulders because he's got something to prove. People keep

4452
03:45:36,280 --> 03:45:39,360
Speaker 1: telling saying that he's just a regular season quarterback and

4453
03:45:39,760 --> 03:45:41,640
Speaker 1: the game is gonna catch up with them, and nobody's

4454
03:45:41,640 --> 03:45:43,120
Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep up with him. The Technans

4455
03:45:43,120 --> 03:45:47,400
Speaker 1: are gonna have to contend against that on the opening

4456
03:45:47,520 --> 03:45:49,560
Speaker 1: night here in our g and I'll tell you what.

4457
03:45:50,160 --> 03:45:52,360
Speaker 1: They're going back to their all season. They added Klais Campbell,

4458
03:45:52,720 --> 03:45:55,320
Speaker 1: they added Derek Wolf, they had some death that guarden

4459
03:45:55,440 --> 03:45:58,959
Speaker 1: DJ Fluker. They they did a good job in my opinion,

4460
03:45:59,040 --> 03:46:01,359
Speaker 1: all season. They gotta They went and got the linebacker

4461
03:46:01,400 --> 03:46:05,400
Speaker 1: from LSU Queen. They drafted JK. Dobbins. They're adding people

4462
03:46:05,480 --> 03:46:08,320
Speaker 1: to their arsenal like they like. We talked about it earlier.

4463
03:46:08,360 --> 03:46:11,360
Speaker 1: They always have a culture of drafting good guys, bringing

4464
03:46:11,400 --> 03:46:13,440
Speaker 1: in guys that fit the culture there, gonna play hard

4465
03:46:13,520 --> 03:46:15,320
Speaker 1: or whatever the case may be. So to me, they

4466
03:46:15,400 --> 03:46:16,760
Speaker 1: had a good off seam. It's gonna be a good

4467
03:46:16,800 --> 03:46:18,720
Speaker 1: test because for the Texans right off the bat, you

4468
03:46:18,800 --> 03:46:21,080
Speaker 1: got Kansas City win or lose, you got to come

4469
03:46:21,120 --> 03:46:23,440
Speaker 1: back and be ready to go following with you can't

4470
03:46:23,440 --> 03:46:25,640
Speaker 1: have a letdown because the first four games like a gauntlet.

4471
03:46:25,800 --> 03:46:28,080
Speaker 1: So this is the thing with a team like the Ravens,

4472
03:46:28,120 --> 03:46:30,160
Speaker 1: a team like the Patriots, as another team that's on

4473
03:46:30,240 --> 03:46:34,040
Speaker 1: the schedule this year, those teams have had sustained success

4474
03:46:34,120 --> 03:46:37,120
Speaker 1: for a really, really long time and they know what

4475
03:46:37,320 --> 03:46:40,160
Speaker 1: they're kind of guy looks like they have that figured out.

4476
03:46:40,240 --> 03:46:42,800
Speaker 1: They just, you know, you lose C. J. Mosley, all right,

4477
03:46:42,800 --> 03:46:44,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this queen. We don't get this other

4478
03:46:44,720 --> 03:46:47,320
Speaker 1: guy to replace them, because we know these guys have

4479
03:46:47,480 --> 03:46:50,960
Speaker 1: similar skill sets, whatever position it may be. The Patriots

4480
03:46:50,959 --> 03:46:52,720
Speaker 1: are the same way. They try to find a guy

4481
03:46:52,760 --> 03:46:56,040
Speaker 1: that's like Willie McGinnis or like Mike Rabel and they

4482
03:46:56,160 --> 03:46:58,440
Speaker 1: implement them into the to the defense and now you

4483
03:46:58,520 --> 03:47:02,240
Speaker 1: got Calvin Noy. You you know, they just it's very

4484
03:47:02,440 --> 03:47:04,560
Speaker 1: easy for them, or it's easier for them to kind

4485
03:47:04,600 --> 03:47:06,520
Speaker 1: of have the blueprint of what it's gonna look like.

4486
03:47:06,840 --> 03:47:09,840
Speaker 1: That's what you have to depend with, the depend against

4487
03:47:09,920 --> 03:47:12,080
Speaker 1: or defend against when you're the Houston Texas, And I

4488
03:47:12,120 --> 03:47:13,840
Speaker 1: think that's what the Texas are trying to build here.

4489
03:47:14,080 --> 03:47:16,640
Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out a way to have success

4490
03:47:16,680 --> 03:47:18,280
Speaker 1: and then be able to say, you know what, this

4491
03:47:18,440 --> 03:47:21,119
Speaker 1: is our kind of guy, not just off the field wise,

4492
03:47:21,200 --> 03:47:25,160
Speaker 1: but character wise and a physical characteristic wise. This is

4493
03:47:25,200 --> 03:47:27,920
Speaker 1: the this is the arm length, and this is the size,

4494
03:47:27,959 --> 03:47:29,440
Speaker 1: and this is the speed. This is the get off

4495
03:47:29,560 --> 03:47:32,040
Speaker 1: that we need out of this particular position. They're trying

4496
03:47:32,080 --> 03:47:34,160
Speaker 1: to get there, but they're not there yet. It's gonna

4497
03:47:34,200 --> 03:47:37,040
Speaker 1: take more sixteen susystem before they get for them to

4498
03:47:37,080 --> 03:47:39,599
Speaker 1: get to that point to where now they can consistently

4499
03:47:39,680 --> 03:47:41,400
Speaker 1: draft for the level of what you see out of

4500
03:47:41,760 --> 03:47:45,600
Speaker 1: teams like the Patriots or teams like the Baltimore Ravens.

4501
03:47:45,680 --> 03:47:48,360
Speaker 1: Now going around the division, of course, you don't have

4502
03:47:48,480 --> 03:47:50,840
Speaker 1: two games a week or two games a year against

4503
03:47:50,879 --> 03:47:53,879
Speaker 1: division opponents. You got the Colts, the Titans, and the Jaguars.

4504
03:47:54,120 --> 03:47:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, do we even talk about the Jaguars anymore?

4505
03:47:56,640 --> 03:47:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean Joannic and docuay is supposed to get traded away.

4506
03:47:59,720 --> 03:48:02,000
Speaker 1: I been seeing the trade game. It doesn't I mean,

4507
03:48:02,040 --> 03:48:03,720
Speaker 1: if he's there, if he's not there, there's not it.

4508
03:48:03,800 --> 03:48:05,560
Speaker 1: That's not it. It's that a team that you really

4509
03:48:05,600 --> 03:48:07,520
Speaker 1: have to be concerned with. If you to Houston Texans,

4510
03:48:07,600 --> 03:48:11,240
Speaker 1: I think out of respect, yes, because the division opponents.

4511
03:48:11,280 --> 03:48:14,480
Speaker 1: You know, all division games are tougher here playing twice

4512
03:48:14,480 --> 03:48:16,440
Speaker 1: a year. They know you best, you know them best.

4513
03:48:16,879 --> 03:48:19,240
Speaker 1: But if you look at their their their offseason, what's

4514
03:48:19,240 --> 03:48:22,040
Speaker 1: going on they had, Like their defensive line, for example,

4515
03:48:22,160 --> 03:48:25,199
Speaker 1: two guys opted out, two guys are into the reserve,

4516
03:48:25,879 --> 03:48:28,520
Speaker 1: two guys. Um something else happened to them, Like they're

4517
03:48:28,560 --> 03:48:31,320
Speaker 1: down to their last few guys on defensive line. They lost,

4518
03:48:31,360 --> 03:48:34,360
Speaker 1: They lost players, Campbell lost Lays Campbell. It just they traded.

4519
03:48:34,480 --> 03:48:38,920
Speaker 1: They traded him away. Might be right, he might be

4520
03:48:39,000 --> 03:48:40,280
Speaker 1: he might have been trade. I think he might have

4521
03:48:40,320 --> 03:48:44,760
Speaker 1: been traded. I can't remember. Yeah, but do do you

4522
03:48:44,800 --> 03:48:46,560
Speaker 1: got to worry about him? I don't think they'll be

4523
03:48:46,720 --> 03:48:49,600
Speaker 1: in the contention for the playoffs at all, right, but

4524
03:48:49,720 --> 03:48:51,560
Speaker 1: I do think you got to respect them, just just

4525
03:48:51,680 --> 03:48:54,080
Speaker 1: to be honest. You can't let Gardener miss you. Get no,

4526
03:48:54,440 --> 03:48:55,879
Speaker 1: you come out there and let him, let him get

4527
03:48:55,879 --> 03:48:58,000
Speaker 1: slinging that thing around and get some confidence. You might

4528
03:48:58,040 --> 03:48:59,600
Speaker 1: be in for a game. But as you come out

4529
03:48:59,680 --> 03:49:01,840
Speaker 1: right now, out and demolishing right away, take the soul

4530
03:49:01,959 --> 03:49:04,040
Speaker 1: from him, it'll be a little different. Yeah, something I

4531
03:49:04,120 --> 03:49:05,880
Speaker 1: talked to I don't know if it was Landry or

4532
03:49:06,000 --> 03:49:08,960
Speaker 1: it was Sean Penner Gas or if it was show

4533
03:49:09,440 --> 03:49:11,440
Speaker 1: I've been I've been subbing in on shows here and there.

4534
03:49:11,440 --> 03:49:13,320
Speaker 1: I can't remember which guy was talking with about it.

4535
03:49:13,440 --> 03:49:17,240
Speaker 1: But to me, the biggest thing that the Texans defensively.

4536
03:49:17,280 --> 03:49:19,360
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people talk about we gotta

4537
03:49:19,360 --> 03:49:22,320
Speaker 1: get the pastor us back, we gotta get our defensive

4538
03:49:22,320 --> 03:49:25,000
Speaker 1: backfield playing at a higher level because they struggle last

4539
03:49:25,080 --> 03:49:27,000
Speaker 1: year and the Pastors are gonna help with that. But

4540
03:49:27,080 --> 03:49:28,720
Speaker 1: to me, based off of what's going on in the

4541
03:49:28,760 --> 03:49:31,280
Speaker 1: division and that that that thought process I think is

4542
03:49:31,360 --> 03:49:34,000
Speaker 1: perfectly correct. When you're talking about playing against the Kent

4543
03:49:34,080 --> 03:49:35,880
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and you're playing against the Ravens, you gotta

4544
03:49:35,920 --> 03:49:38,760
Speaker 1: get faster, you gotta be able to get after the quarterback,

4545
03:49:38,800 --> 03:49:41,680
Speaker 1: because that's how you'll beat those teams. But in this division,

4546
03:49:42,160 --> 03:49:44,720
Speaker 1: you better be able to stop the run because the Jaguars,

4547
03:49:45,080 --> 03:49:48,560
Speaker 1: the Coats, and the Titans arguably they're all top fifteen

4548
03:49:48,640 --> 03:49:50,880
Speaker 1: running games, and then the Coats and the Titans that

4549
03:49:51,000 --> 03:49:54,280
Speaker 1: are like top six running games between the two of those,

4550
03:49:54,480 --> 03:49:56,120
Speaker 1: and so you gotta be able to stop the run

4551
03:49:56,200 --> 03:49:59,640
Speaker 1: in your division in order to win games. Because we

4552
03:49:59,760 --> 03:50:02,320
Speaker 1: talk about this with John Harris a little bit earlier, like, Hey,

4553
03:50:02,320 --> 03:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I understand that you know, you got all these receivers

4554
03:50:05,240 --> 03:50:07,320
Speaker 1: on your team, more depth at the position than you

4555
03:50:07,400 --> 03:50:09,640
Speaker 1: ever had, But to actually go out and win a

4556
03:50:09,720 --> 03:50:13,200
Speaker 1: ball game, it doesn't matter how many good receivers you

4557
03:50:13,280 --> 03:50:15,400
Speaker 1: have and how explosive you are if you're not on

4558
03:50:15,480 --> 03:50:18,200
Speaker 1: the field. And so the Tennessee Titans are built to

4559
03:50:18,360 --> 03:50:20,920
Speaker 1: run the ball down your throat, control the clock, hit

4560
03:50:21,000 --> 03:50:23,080
Speaker 1: you over the top with a J Brown and and

4561
03:50:23,400 --> 03:50:26,400
Speaker 1: make you make you like it. Same thing with the

4562
03:50:27,040 --> 03:50:30,400
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. They're built to run the ball downhill. They

4563
03:50:30,480 --> 03:50:33,840
Speaker 1: got a damn good offensive line. You got, they got

4564
03:50:33,920 --> 03:50:37,560
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor that was drafted from Wisconsin. And then of

4565
03:50:37,640 --> 03:50:40,320
Speaker 1: course you got Mac like they they got. They got

4566
03:50:40,400 --> 03:50:42,920
Speaker 1: a squad up there that is built for running the

4567
03:50:43,000 --> 03:50:45,920
Speaker 1: football and controlling the clock. So when I when I

4568
03:50:46,000 --> 03:50:50,200
Speaker 1: look at this division, the Texans defensive line and linebackers

4569
03:50:50,240 --> 03:50:53,040
Speaker 1: are inside linebackers talking about Narjer McKinney and Zach Cunningham,

4570
03:50:53,720 --> 03:50:57,200
Speaker 1: between the interior guys of of DJ Dunney, Brandon dunn

4571
03:50:57,280 --> 03:51:01,960
Speaker 1: and and and Carlos Watkins and Angelo blaxon Ross Blacklock.

4572
03:51:02,040 --> 03:51:04,760
Speaker 1: Those guys are gonna have to step up and fill

4573
03:51:04,840 --> 03:51:08,040
Speaker 1: the void for DJ Reader because if not, that can

4574
03:51:08,120 --> 03:51:10,880
Speaker 1: be not an easy way. But that is the that

4575
03:51:11,080 --> 03:51:15,680
Speaker 1: is the key. That is the the the direction that

4576
03:51:15,800 --> 03:51:18,040
Speaker 1: the offense is that they're gonna have to play against

4577
03:51:18,240 --> 03:51:22,280
Speaker 1: are gonna take to try to dethrone the Houston Texans

4578
03:51:22,360 --> 03:51:25,120
Speaker 1: from the Division championship. This is a physical division, like

4579
03:51:25,520 --> 03:51:28,840
Speaker 1: they want to run. Every team wants to run the football.

4580
03:51:29,560 --> 03:51:31,800
Speaker 1: It's that simple. And if you look at the team,

4581
03:51:31,880 --> 03:51:34,200
Speaker 1: that makes me a little nervous the most, to be honest,

4582
03:51:34,240 --> 03:51:36,560
Speaker 1: when she was the Colts, it's not Tennessee, it's it's

4583
03:51:36,600 --> 03:51:39,400
Speaker 1: the Colts because of the additions they added to stop

4584
03:51:39,440 --> 03:51:41,680
Speaker 1: the run and Sheldon day de tackle and then the

4585
03:51:41,760 --> 03:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Forest Bunker they trade the first round picking him from

4586
03:51:44,240 --> 03:51:47,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco and the impact they already have the good

4587
03:51:47,600 --> 03:51:52,080
Speaker 1: linebackers and everything else, but you're adding to already good

4588
03:51:52,160 --> 03:51:55,680
Speaker 1: defense and they're gonna run the ball like that. They're

4589
03:51:55,680 --> 03:51:58,440
Speaker 1: literally gonna run the ball. Martin mcothousand yard rusher last

4590
03:51:58,520 --> 03:52:00,640
Speaker 1: year very good when the healthy bad up a little bit,

4591
03:52:00,640 --> 03:52:02,280
Speaker 1: but you got a guy in Jonathan Taylor can take

4592
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