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Speaker 2: The Rockets are headed to Las Vegas still alive for
Speaker 2: the semi finals of the Emirates Cup as they stormed
Speaker 2: back and beat the Golden State Warriors. This is the
Speaker 2: first time they've beaten the Warriors since the pandemic twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: There had been fifty The Warriors had been fifteen to
Speaker 2: zero against Rockets. But hey, Rockets day, don't We weren't
Speaker 2: on those teams. We're here now. As they stormed back
Speaker 2: from as many as seven down to win ninety one
Speaker 2: ninety on a very controversial call late in the ball
Speaker 2: game or tie up. A lot of players were calling
Speaker 2: time out, even the coach called time out, but Bill Kennedy,
Speaker 2: who's the head official, overruled them all and said, hey,
Speaker 2: Kaminga had fouled Jalen Green. Green goes to the line,
Speaker 2: calmly saints two free throws and that was the margin
Speaker 2: of victory.
Speaker 1: As they head to the.
Speaker 2: Head to Las Vegas to play I think they played Okay,
Speaker 2: see right, Yeah, they played Okcah in the semi finals
Speaker 2: and then Milwaukee. We're gonna talk about this game a
Speaker 2: little later. The Hawks also beat the beat the Knicks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, yes, hey, the god damn Warriors. Man, you know,
Speaker 4: them boys got championships. I mean they too experienced, you know,
Speaker 4: latent games and making these kind of mental errors. Man,
Speaker 4: they've been in these situations before. I maybe just a
Speaker 4: lapse in judgment, you know, at the end of the games.
Speaker 4: I mean, what's the issue. Do you think maybe they
Speaker 4: not take it as serious.
Speaker 1: Oh, they take it as serious.
Speaker 2: I think the thing is is that Gary Payton, the
Speaker 2: second in that situation, just hold on to the ball,
Speaker 2: get tied up. Yeah, I mean you throwing it because
Speaker 2: first of all, you're throwing it, you're shoving the ball out,
Speaker 2: and you know, you don't know what's gonna happen. Like
Speaker 2: I said, I don't know if I'm calling a file
Speaker 2: in that situation. Ohoe, I see a bunch of guys
Speaker 2: in red calling time out. The coaches are calling also
Speaker 2: calling a timeout, and for him to overrule because the
Speaker 2: other guys had given the other officials have given him
Speaker 2: a timeout. But because Bill Kennedy is the head official,
Speaker 2: they're gonna look to him. And he says, hey, I
Speaker 2: got a file pulled him over his shoulder. Now, I
Speaker 2: didn't see that. I didn't see that grecious of a call,
Speaker 2: and definitely in that spot now Hey, go back. You
Speaker 2: can make a call of file as a file no
Speaker 2: matter what time of the game that it occurs in.
Speaker 2: But it's hard for in a situation like that, Ohoe,
Speaker 2: it seems like it was a tie up. It's at
Speaker 2: worst case scenario. It's a tie up. Best case scenario,
Speaker 2: the Houston Rockets get. Well, the Houston Rockets got the
Speaker 2: best case scenario. They got a foul call and the
Speaker 2: guy went to the line and made both free throws.
Speaker 2: But that's a big, very tough spot to be in.
Speaker 2: That's a very tough way to lose a ball game
Speaker 2: when you had to seize control of the ball.
Speaker 1: Game late in the ball game.
Speaker 2: Had made a lot of plays, right, But give the
Speaker 2: Rockets some credit, ood Joe, because they did a great job.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of times they got twenty four
Speaker 2: twenty four second shot shot clock violations because they did
Speaker 2: an outstanding job of defense. They were switching everything. They
Speaker 2: got nothing easy. They contested everything. So let's not just
Speaker 2: make it about that last call. Although a lot of
Speaker 2: people want to make it about the last call. I
Speaker 2: thought the Rockets defense, say the last two minutes of
Speaker 2: the ball game, maybe two and a half minutes, was sensational.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen the Rockets. The Rockets is a very
Speaker 4: very young team, very young team, very young team. They
Speaker 4: played very well in transition obviously, like you did did
Speaker 4: say before, something that most of the NBA doesn't play.
Speaker 1: Them. Boys played defense to night. They boy played defense
Speaker 1: when they needed to. Yeah, and it just seemed like
Speaker 1: they wanted more though.
Speaker 4: That's why That's why I said, damn all the words,
Speaker 4: really taking it serious, being that you know, it's just
Speaker 4: the NBA Cup and you know their their eyes and
Speaker 4: their mindset and their goals is set on you know,
Speaker 4: obviously NBA Championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we wanted it more.
Speaker 2: You're just close to the Cup. I mean, hey, you're
Speaker 2: in the knockout round. Now, You've played hard, you fought
Speaker 2: hard to get here. So I think everybody's taking it serious.
Speaker 1: You see.
Speaker 2: You see the Milwaukee Uh they said, look, we're not
Speaker 2: just here now, we don't We just don't want to
Speaker 2: go to Vegas.
Speaker 1: We want to win the thing.
Speaker 2: We see the Hawks, the way they played, they go
Speaker 2: into New York, they were down and then they storm
Speaker 2: back in the second half and completely dominate the game.
Speaker 1: I think once you get so once you get this close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something new that the institute to try to
Speaker 2: keep the audience, try to get more viewers in. But
Speaker 2: I think because it's an opportunity, you gonna get five
Speaker 2: hundred each participately against five hundred thousand dollars and you're
Speaker 2: the Emirates Cup. Hey, I don't have a problem with it,
Speaker 2: And I think those guys played hard. But you know,
Speaker 2: it was a sloppy game. I mean, the Warriors shot
Speaker 2: forty four percent from the floor. The Rockets shot forty
Speaker 2: six percent from the floor. The Warriors shot thirty two
Speaker 2: percent from the three, the Rockets shot twenty two percent
Speaker 2: from the three. Neither team really got to the free
Speaker 2: throw line a lot. That's to be expected the Warriors,
Speaker 2: because they don't really have an inside presence, they shoot
Speaker 2: a lot of threes. Even though yeah, they were twelve
Speaker 2: or thirty eight tonight. Uh, the Rockets was six to
Speaker 2: twenty seven. The Warriors was four or nine from the
Speaker 2: free throw line, which is forty four percent. The Rockets
Speaker 2: were nine of ten, which is ninety percent. But like
Speaker 2: I said, it was a sloppy game, didn't have a
Speaker 2: whole lot of flow to it. Uh, I mean, think
Speaker 2: about it, it was ninety one. Ninety one to ninety
Speaker 2: was the final score, and routinely were used to seeing
Speaker 2: scores in the in one hundred.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was. It was not a well played game.
Speaker 1: The court was really hard on the eyes.
Speaker 2: I hate the red court and I like the NBA
Speaker 2: now oh nah, hell you can barely find the basketball. Uh.
Speaker 2: I get what the n benz try to do, like
Speaker 2: some creativity, but red red a I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 2: all red. It's kind of like watching the boys in
Speaker 2: state football, you know game and that blue field East
Speaker 2: I think it's Eastern Washington.
Speaker 1: They have red turf, red turf. Yut like, nah, I
Speaker 1: like it. It was different.
Speaker 4: It was different, you know, seeing something different outside of
Speaker 4: the you know, the hard the hardwood, you know, the
Speaker 4: color coordination to go with the teams based on where
Speaker 4: you're playing at.
Speaker 1: I like it, you know, little something different. You oh,
Speaker 1: you old school man, you just you know. No.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, some of I can get down with.
Speaker 2: Look that look grown grown folks watching the game. Ain't
Speaker 2: no kids. But I get you know, I get you
Speaker 2: trying to peak interest. But I mean that that was
Speaker 2: a bit too much. I mean, man, I was like,
Speaker 2: damn I'm about to get vertigo watching this Gibt this game, man,
Speaker 2: I got I let me get up and go get
Speaker 2: me some water or something. Hope nothing interested happens while
Speaker 2: I'm gone. But yeah, that was a bit much. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I get the Lakers and the Warriors and Indiana, they
Speaker 2: got yellow courts and things like that. Some teams were
Speaker 2: dominantly blue, but all red. I mean, I mean the
Speaker 2: only thing that was gold on there was the basketball
Speaker 2: of the Trophy. Now that was a bit much for me.
Speaker 2: But look, the Rockets won this ball game because I
Speaker 2: thought they played really well, the really great defense. The
Speaker 2: last two two and a half minutes of the ball game.
Speaker 2: They switched everything. They got like three shot clock violations,
Speaker 2: and they forced him in some very difficult shots. When
Speaker 2: they were able to get a shot off, they were
Speaker 2: very difficult shots, clanging off the backboard. They did a
Speaker 2: great job of not letting Steph Currish you see daylight.
Speaker 2: Now he did get one, look he missed it. But
Speaker 2: for the most part, I thought they did a very
Speaker 2: good job on step Steph was eight or seventeen, three
Speaker 2: or nine from the three. Buddy Hill was six to twelve,
Speaker 2: three or nine from the three, Gary Payton second was
Speaker 2: all to Kaminga. He got twenty shots up. He was
Speaker 2: eight of twenty two or six from the three, he
Speaker 2: was the same thing. From the free throw line, two
Speaker 2: of six. Draymond was four and nine to two no
Speaker 2: free throws. But for me, this was a really sloppy
Speaker 2: ball game. But the Rockets found a way to win it.
Speaker 2: And so you give these young guys credit because a
Speaker 2: lot of these guys haven't been in a situation like this,
Speaker 2: and this is maturity, this is side of growth that
Speaker 2: they're getting better. And uh, I mean Doka is rubbing
Speaker 2: off on him because his personality seems like a fiery guy.
Speaker 2: He had no nonsense. We're here to get a job done.
Speaker 2: Let's get the job done and then we can go
Speaker 2: on about our way. But give the Rockets credit. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people's gonna harp on that
Speaker 2: last call oo, and I get it because I'm watching them,
Speaker 2: like damn two times. I mean, it seemed like all
Speaker 2: the Rockets players were calling time out. Even officials seemed
Speaker 2: like they were about to give him a timeout. And
Speaker 2: as I said, Bill Kennedy, who's the head official, he
Speaker 2: came in and said, nap, that's a foule and uh,
Speaker 2: that's a tough way to lose the game late in
Speaker 2: the ball game, two free throws with three point one
Speaker 2: second on the clock, and give the young fellow credit
Speaker 2: Jaalen Green because he went to the free throw line
Speaker 2: and he sank, sank both of them.
Speaker 1: Uh. Steve Kirk called the loose ball file.
Speaker 2: That decided the game three point five seconds left uncomfortable
Speaker 2: whistle and something at elementary school official wouldn't have called.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: Uh. Steve Kerr also said the Rockets NBA court, it
Speaker 2: felt like I was descending into the depths of hell. Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 2: It was tough that that red all red is tough.
Speaker 2: And I'm not the biggest red fan right now. I
Speaker 2: don't wear hell a whole lot of red. I just
Speaker 2: when we were growing up, my grandfather really wouldn't get
Speaker 2: us anything red because he said only monkeys were red.
Speaker 1: So no, Barty didn't play that listen. I enjoyed red.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the color red, man.
Speaker 4: You know, it's probably the best color in the color
Speaker 4: spectrum one that I one that I enjoyed. So I
Speaker 4: enjoy I personally enjoyed seeing the red and record it is.
Speaker 4: It's time for so different Obyusly, I think there worried
Speaker 4: about why viewership is down. Maybe that's one way, and
Speaker 4: maybe they do want to get the kids and the
Speaker 4: young kids watching the games to boost that viewership up,
Speaker 4: you know, ause it's lagging.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so, I mean, hell, it doesn't help.
Speaker 2: It doesn't help that a lot of times the best
Speaker 2: players they're load managing, they're not playing.
Speaker 1: That's not good.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're paid, I mean, there's you're paid a
Speaker 2: lot of money for these games, right.
Speaker 1: The NFL doesn't have that problem.
Speaker 2: Hell, they try to get guys out there on the court,
Speaker 2: on the field, if they're hurt, if you're deaned, if
Speaker 2: you can run just a little bit, they get.
Speaker 1: And that's why, especially the superstars. And that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Joe Hey, the tim gowon a bitch, he missed a game.
Speaker 2: Nobody cares superstars. That's why they protect the quarterbacks. The quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: That's what people want to see. They want to see
Speaker 2: those guys. And you don't got the guy, not for
Speaker 2: two or three weeks.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 2: The NFL ain't going for that. But that's something because
Speaker 2: I love Adam Silver. I think he's really great at
Speaker 2: what he does. He's gonna have to find a way
Speaker 2: to make sure these guys play. They tried to incentivize it, like, look,
Speaker 2: you're gonna lose out a chance to win the MVP
Speaker 2: or Rookie of the Year or all the NBA. You
Speaker 2: got to play sixty five games, and and and and
Speaker 2: guys are like, bro, that's the difference between a three
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar contract and one hundred and eighty million,
Speaker 2: two hundred million dollar contract. Right now, We're not talking
Speaker 2: about five million dollars that won Solo gave up, you know,
Speaker 2: got to go to the Mets. We're talking about one
Speaker 2: hundred million, one hundred and fifty million.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a big, big, big, big difference, big difference.
Speaker 1: And so but congratulations Houston Rockets.
Speaker 2: Young team found a way to scratching clause their way
Speaker 2: to a victory as they take down the Golden State
Speaker 2: Warriors ninety one to ninety.
Speaker 1: In the first game of the night. The Hawks defeat
Speaker 1: the Knicks ice trade.
Speaker 2: Three years after knocking the Knicks out of the playoffs
Speaker 2: with a pair of wins in Madison Square, Garden Young
Speaker 2: had twenty two points and eleven assists that lifted the
Speaker 2: Atlanta Hawks over the New York Knicks in the NBA
Speaker 2: Cup Quarterfinals knock out round. The Hawks will face the
Speaker 2: Bucks in the semifinals. Trey Young did his hot thief
Speaker 2: in the funk house, rolling his dice on the next
Speaker 2: logo as time expired. Boy than fifty four died in
Speaker 2: sixty three. What's my point? He and a ross the
Speaker 2: gambling howse Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hey, but look they really, honestly, I mean, we know that.
Speaker 4: What the outcome of the game was the goddamn Knicks
Speaker 4: playing god damn good in the first half.
Speaker 1: Man, they was lively worse they was. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say trade Tree Young was struggling, but man,
Speaker 1: they limited his playmaking.
Speaker 4: If the lease, hell he had he avered twelve assists, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: but hell at the half he ain't had number two
Speaker 4: assists in ten points going into the half got them.
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns out there, playing both both ends of
Speaker 1: the court. He playing well, shit, he I think he was.
Speaker 1: He finished with a double double. Yeah, he had godamn
Speaker 1: first half nineteen points, nineteen rebounds.
Speaker 2: But the big gun Jalen Bronson struggled he was five
Speaker 2: or fifteen from the floor. He was two or six
Speaker 2: from the three. O g Anonobi struggled five or seventeen
Speaker 2: one of nine from the three. But cal Bridges got
Speaker 2: the ball really well except from the three. He was
Speaker 2: nine or seventeen. And they didn't shoot. They didn't shoot
Speaker 2: the free throw. They was sixty percent from the free
Speaker 2: throw line. Oh Joe, Yeah, if you don't get there
Speaker 2: a bunch, you definitely got a damn there'll be one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there was nine of fifteen. That's sixty percent. But
Speaker 2: it's just a situation where the big guns didn't go off.
Speaker 2: See the thing that if you watch the Hawks, and
Speaker 2: you know, obviously I play attention to him a little
Speaker 2: bit because I'm, you know, from Georgia and you know
Speaker 2: our roof. I like Trey Young. But if you look
Speaker 2: at their business, bench is really good. A hunter comes
Speaker 2: off the bench and he could easily give you thirty.
Speaker 2: He gave you twenty four tonight. Then the other night
Speaker 2: against the Lakers, he gave you twenty six. But Donovich
Speaker 2: didn't have the big night tonight. But double oh, he
Speaker 2: gave you twelve off the bench and eleven rebounds. So
Speaker 2: they normally give you, they could easily give you somewhere
Speaker 2: between thirty five and fifty points with their bench production.
Speaker 2: Trey struggled a little bit. He had twenty two points,
Speaker 2: but he took him twenty two shots to get it.
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson it was eight of twenty, but he made
Speaker 2: some big shots down the stretch. He had fifteen rebounds.
Speaker 2: Clat Capella is always on the glass. It seems like
Speaker 2: every year the Hawks want to get rid of him,
Speaker 2: but he gives them so many second chance opportunity to
Speaker 2: put points on the board. He was eleven and thirteen
Speaker 2: tonight he was plus eight. Jalen Johnson was plus six
Speaker 2: plus sixteen. But they did a great job. You're right,
Speaker 2: oh Joe. The second half, the Hawks dominated the second half.
Speaker 2: They got out on them in the third quarter, outstored
Speaker 2: in thirty four to eighteen.
Speaker 1: They they really never looked back after that.
Speaker 4: All it comes down to, obviously, the game of basketball
Speaker 4: is a game of runs, and the Knixt dominated obviously
Speaker 4: the first half, and that's half.
Speaker 1: They just couldn't hit nothing. They couldn't.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if it was the goddamn halftime adjustments
Speaker 4: that the goddamn Hawks made, or the fact that the
Speaker 4: player just wasn't hitting they shots in the second.
Speaker 2: Hair well, it's as Doc Rivers once famous and said,
Speaker 2: it's all make a mislead. Either the ball goes in
Speaker 2: or it doesn't. And the thing is is that you
Speaker 2: better hope it goes in sooner rather than later, because
Speaker 2: if your shots are not going in and the other
Speaker 2: team is, it is bigger on a run away from you.
Speaker 2: And that's what we saw happening in the third quarter
Speaker 2: they outscored them thirty four to eighteen because seemingly everything
Speaker 2: the Hawks put up went into the basket tray started
Speaker 2: getting young, he started penetrating, and now he's throwing log
Speaker 2: Jalen Johnson bam dunk, playing capella.
Speaker 1: Bam dunk back back to back. Clint had back the
Speaker 1: back and.
Speaker 2: So that's what he does, a great job like he's
Speaker 2: so and that's why I was always impressed with him.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you lead the nation and scored and
Speaker 2: I know he's on the smallest side, he's a small guy,
Speaker 2: probably five to eleven, I'm thinking. But when you lead
Speaker 2: the nation and scored the rebounds, you can input the
Speaker 2: you can impact the game offensively. If you're not scoring,
Speaker 2: you can fill up the stat sheet with assist Because
Speaker 2: we've seen him have a thirty twenty game. We've seen
Speaker 2: him have fifteen to sixteen assists. So there's another way
Speaker 2: that he can impact the game. And that's how he
Speaker 2: has to impact the game because he's such a liability
Speaker 2: on the defensive end. He's smallish, he doesn't have quick feet,
Speaker 2: he doesn't have strong hands, so it's hard for him
Speaker 2: and a lot of times people try to go at him.
Speaker 2: But what he has the advantage is his quickness in
Speaker 2: being able to score the basketball and get others involved.
Speaker 2: And he did a great job of that in the
Speaker 2: second half the night of trying to get downhill and
Speaker 2: get his guys involved, and they did a great job
Speaker 2: of finishing. Jalen Johnson Capella do a great job of
Speaker 2: finishing above the rim. And so the Hawks take on
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks in the semifinals in the Emers Cup.
Speaker 2: I was very impressed with the Hawks, I really work,
Speaker 2: especially considering how poorly they played in the first half
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a good game. I enjoyed it. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. Listen.
Speaker 4: Obviously, I'm a basketball fan to a certain extent, and
Speaker 4: I was hoping that the next you got Cat now
Speaker 4: obviously Josh Hart. So I'm thinking Jayleen brusting them boys.
Speaker 4: Things were going to look different this year. I'm thinking
Speaker 4: things were gonna live different. Maybe they're going to challenge
Speaker 4: in the East. But to come out, look even even
Speaker 4: even though it's still early, come on, now.
Speaker 1: It's a two team race in the East. It's the
Speaker 1: Cans in the Celtics now less come on, man, come
Speaker 1: on man, So you're just gonna leave the heat out.
Speaker 2: It's a two team bro y'all try to get rid
Speaker 2: of Jimmy. Stop y'all. Y'all know, y'all enjoy it.
Speaker 1: You know that that's just the media. That's the media.
Speaker 1: Just Yeah, they said that about Belichick too, didn'ty It's
Speaker 1: just the media.
Speaker 2: It's just the media. Where's he at, O, Joe? You
Speaker 2: just told me, like when this stuff come out, the
Speaker 2: media got it from somewhere. That's what you told our chat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you think they don't get rid of Jimmy.
Speaker 1: If they get rid of Jimmy, but what were gonna do.
Speaker 1: They're not They're not they're not gonna they don't want
Speaker 1: to extend him.
Speaker 2: Let's uh, that's the Warriors are reportedly targeting Lebron and
Speaker 2: Lebron James and.
Speaker 1: Or Jimmy Butler. Who do you feel is a better
Speaker 1: fit Lebron? I mean, yeah, lebronn you.
Speaker 2: Need somebody to handle the ball, take so much pressure.
Speaker 2: Did you see how well here and Steph current in
Speaker 2: the Olympics.
Speaker 1: Huh, take the pressure off of Steph of handling.
Speaker 2: They don't really have a point guard. So now Lebron
Speaker 2: can handle the ball. Now Steph is freed up to
Speaker 2: do what Steph? Does you see how well they played
Speaker 2: in the Olympics. You see when they've been on the
Speaker 2: All Star teams to get not all starting might have
Speaker 2: be indictated because the ain't nobody playing no defense. But
Speaker 2: you saw him in a contested situation at the Olympics,
Speaker 2: and you see how easy stuff was getting shots off.
Speaker 2: Because Lebron can see over the entire court, he can
Speaker 2: skip past it, he can pass from one side to
Speaker 2: the other. He loved that hammer passed from one baseline
Speaker 2: to the other. So yeah, and he can score. That's
Speaker 2: the problem that they have. They don't have enough scores.
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think do you think that's even
Speaker 1: the possibility. Obviously, Ron. Where where there's smoke, there's fire.
Speaker 1: It has to come from somewhere.
Speaker 2: Well, we heard last year that the Warriors made an
Speaker 2: attempt and Rich Paul shot it that Rich Paul like
Speaker 2: basically talked Lebron out of if you believe what the
Speaker 2: reports are saying, I just don't see a situation where
Speaker 2: Lebron wants to move right And at this point in time,
Speaker 2: this would always tell you tell me, if Lebron goes somewhere,
Speaker 2: it's gonna change somebody's perception of Lebron. If you like Lebron,
Speaker 2: you believe Lebron is the best player of all time,
Speaker 2: that's what you're gonna believe. If you believe Jordan is
Speaker 2: the best player of all time, no matter what Lebron does,
Speaker 2: he can get another title, he can get another MVP. Still,
Speaker 2: so it's not gonna change anything. Now if he wants
Speaker 2: to go try to chase one, Okay, fine, that's that's
Speaker 2: that's right. I mean, he's about to be forty in
Speaker 2: about two weeks, two and a half weeks. But I
Speaker 2: don't believe it changed. I don't think it moves anyone's needles.
Speaker 2: Other now, if that's what he wants, Like man, five
Speaker 2: would really look good on my resume. And if I
Speaker 2: can get five finals MVP. First of all, nobody has four.
Speaker 2: I have the second most behind Jordan. But for me,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me
Speaker 2: other than you know, him playing meaning for basketball, because
Speaker 2: unless they make a significant trade with the Lakers, I
Speaker 2: don't see them challenging.
Speaker 1: They're doing much in the West. So let's just say,
Speaker 1: let's say speaking, Yeah, they do get Lebron, So are
Speaker 1: they a favor to win not only to be not
Speaker 1: only not only coming out of the West, but to
Speaker 1: be the Celtics.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'll be favorite to win, but
Speaker 2: I think they'll they'll, they'll they'll be Uh now, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you got a guy, you got two
Speaker 2: guys that can go score. Yeah, with Lebron and Steph.
Speaker 2: But I don't even know if that's enough because you
Speaker 2: got when you when you go look at when you
Speaker 2: look at the Celtics, you got JB, you got j T.
Speaker 2: Prazingles has been in and out, hasn't played much this year.
Speaker 2: White can score, Holiday can score. You got big aut
Speaker 2: get this. You know he can get hot, but normally
Speaker 2: he's gonna give you ten points and ten rebounds. Where's
Speaker 2: the other score? You're gonna have to give up something.
Speaker 2: You're probably gonna have to lose, kaminga losing Uh huh,
Speaker 2: what you mean losing? You gonta have the packaging. They're
Speaker 2: just not gonna give you Lebron for free. You're gonna
Speaker 2: have to match your salary somehow.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: That's how it works in the NBA. You gotta match salary.
Speaker 2: So you you bringing on you taking on a guy
Speaker 2: that makes fifty million dollar? Was the year You've got
Speaker 2: to send out fifty million dollars in salary?
Speaker 1: Right? So, yeah, it ain't gonna happen that. That ain't No,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: I definitely don't see Lebron going. Look, he came to
Speaker 2: the Lakers for a reason. He had to accomplished all
Speaker 2: he could accomplish in cap in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: He wanted to.
Speaker 2: Start his second half to start his branding, and he
Speaker 2: won a championship, got a team to the finals. They
Speaker 2: won that in the Bubble, and he became the all
Speaker 2: time leading scorer in the Lakers uniform. And he's played extremely,
Speaker 2: extremely well for the Lakers. It doesn't make a whole
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me, But it doesn't need to
Speaker 2: make a whole lot of sense to me. It only
Speaker 2: needs to make a whole lot of sense to him.
Speaker 2: If it makes sense to him, then he'll probably do it.
Speaker 1: Most definitely old hate.
Speaker 2: And ask Stephen. They talking about Lebron doesn't deserve to
Speaker 2: play with steath and I saw, I saw, I saw
Speaker 2: him to day too, So this way he's all.
Speaker 1: These I think he's on his way to LA.
Speaker 2: But man, Steven ain't be hating on Lebron, tell about
Speaker 2: he don't deserve. You don't get what you deserve. You
Speaker 2: get what you've earned. When you played twenty two years
Speaker 2: and you're the greatest player in the NBA history, you've
Speaker 2: earned it right to call a shot. Hey, nah, you
Speaker 2: know what I've done all I could for the Lakers.
Speaker 2: I think the Lakers have to be pleased considering where
Speaker 2: they were before Lebron got there. They were laughing, They
Speaker 2: were they were a proud franchise, but they were laughing.
Speaker 1: Stop. They weren't going anywhere.
Speaker 2: They were not gonna have they were not gonna have
Speaker 2: any more national televised games. And now Lebron comes there
Speaker 2: and and every arena they go to they're sold out.
Speaker 2: It brought the buzz back the Laker nation.
Speaker 1: So go ahead. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't see a situation where he leaves, you know,
Speaker 1: such a good situation. No, no, no disrespect to to
Speaker 1: the Warriors. But I mean about the legacy of the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Do you do you really need that just to go
Speaker 1: chase your ring as just finished what you started in
Speaker 1: any your career right there. I mean, you're hoping that
Speaker 1: they could they can make a trade to get somebody.
Speaker 2: But I think the finion of the Lakers is like twofold. Okay, Lebron,
Speaker 2: let's just say it for the sake of argument. You
Speaker 2: got a year, two years left, this year and next
Speaker 2: year that's probably it. That'll be what twenty two to
Speaker 2: twenty three seasons? Bro, We give up that? Do you
Speaker 2: give up? You keep giving up those picks, and we
Speaker 2: give up this young talent because I think anything that
Speaker 2: gets packaged to get shipped out is gonna have to
Speaker 2: include Austin Reeves, right Okay, Now, I do I think
Speaker 2: they don't particularly care if Delo is included. They kind
Speaker 2: of want to move on from d Low. You're probably
Speaker 2: gonna have to put Ruy in that package also, But
Speaker 2: what are we gonna get? What are you getting back
Speaker 2: your return? That's the question, right, what do you I mean?
Speaker 2: Even swap ain't no swindle. Now, it's not like you
Speaker 2: trade supers because it's hard to get equal value back
Speaker 2: for superstar squars, right, That's why they're only a handful
Speaker 2: of those circulating in the NBA. But you don't want
Speaker 2: the role players all of a sudden go somewhere else
Speaker 2: and become that. But they're not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: become what you what they could somewhere else because you
Speaker 2: have a D and Lebron. So they're never gonna be
Speaker 2: anything more than the third or fourth option at the
Speaker 2: Lakers with Lebron and a D on the squad. And
Speaker 2: so I think the Lakers need to understand that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves plays great, but he's only gonna be so
Speaker 2: much with Lebron and AD on the court. That's why
Speaker 2: Brandon Ingram had to leave. And you saw Brandon Ingham
Speaker 2: become an All Star, but he couldn't come back with
Speaker 2: a D and Lebron come on bro.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. I mean, it happens.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I d I kind of understand it. Now,
Speaker 4: why can't you fit in and do what you're doing,
Speaker 4: you know in New Orleans with the Lakers? But you know,
Speaker 4: do you don't tell you don't test the ball enough?
Speaker 2: No, you know, it takes a special type of somebody
Speaker 2: to play, and that because everybody wants to be the best,
Speaker 2: the best, their best self. And unfortunately, when you play
Speaker 2: with you know, you play with other dominant player, I mean,
Speaker 2: superstar players the ball. They're gonna get the ball, but
Speaker 2: they're gonna get the line's share of the shot, and
Speaker 2: so you have to make the most of the opportunities
Speaker 2: that you do have. Now, hey, they're gonna get somewhere
Speaker 2: between eighteen and twenty two shots a night, So what
Speaker 2: what can you do with the ilimited amount of shots
Speaker 2: that you get? Now, if you get hot, obviously they're
Speaker 2: gonna feed the hot man. Yeah, the ball, the ball
Speaker 2: originally is going is going through your big guns first.
Speaker 2: So now I don't I don't see it. Jimmy, it
Speaker 2: seems to me Jimmy wants an extension. Pat Ryley is
Speaker 2: not too keen on that Jimmy doesn't play a lot
Speaker 2: of the games, and it doesn't seem to take the
Speaker 2: regular season serious enough for Pat uh Pat Walt, Pat,
Speaker 2: if every game is life or death, he wants you there.
Speaker 2: Pat doesn't have a problem playing paying. But hey, you
Speaker 2: ain't getting no free money out of Pat Riley, right
Speaker 2: the Godfather.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, you didn't get your ass out there on
Speaker 1: that court. I'm gonna pay you. I paid for play,
Speaker 1: not playing playoff play.
Speaker 2: Lebron hasn't given any indication to the Lakers about request
Speaker 2: of the trade. Bridy would likely have to be included
Speaker 2: any deal in brob involving Lebron.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I like it. Listen, it's interesting. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: It would make for the NBA. We talked about viewership. Hell,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna spipe. It's gonna spike it that happens.
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that, assuming I'm assuming the Warrior games
Speaker 4: already sold out. I mean, what more, what what more
Speaker 4: can can happen if Lebron was to go there as
Speaker 4: opposed to you know, everybody, especially where odd Yeah, that
Speaker 4: too an odd changing in Vegas, you know for them,
Speaker 4: that god damn Chip I mean.
Speaker 2: You gotta look, they got to build a building in
Speaker 2: that building costs a couple of billion dollars, and the
Speaker 2: tickets are expensive, and the thing people like, they like winning.
Speaker 1: I'm not paying five, ten, fifteen, twenty thousand dollars. Er
Speaker 1: your ass lose. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I don't love you that much. I love you that much, right,
Speaker 2: but Broy, the ticket, those tickets in the Bay, they
Speaker 2: ain't in Oakland. Those tickets in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Wait, tickets cost fifteen to twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: Bro, I just read today that in order to you
Speaker 2: need to make one hundred and twenty thousand, you need
Speaker 2: to make three hundred and twenty thousand dollars to even
Speaker 2: qualify for a loan for a home and debate make
Speaker 2: three twenty to even fill out some paperwork and say, okaya,
Speaker 2: we'll take a look at it.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm still stuck on a ticket to go watch
Speaker 4: a sporting event cost in fifteen twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm still stuck on that cart.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm probably taking I'm probably those court side
Speaker 2: seats there, they probably they probably go anywhere from like
Speaker 2: five to like fifteen.
Speaker 1: Oh, hell, man, what's wrong? What's wrong?
Speaker 2: I mean, bro, how the hell you think you paid
Speaker 2: for a two thousand or two billion dollars a renal
Speaker 2: playing thirty dollars charging thirty dollars a ticket?
Speaker 1: What the hell you from with your math teacher? And this?
Speaker 2: Why do you think they keep Why you think they
Speaker 2: keep raising the prices for NFL games?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: You think they fit to paid players sixty seventy million
Speaker 2: dollars and you still get fifteen dollars tickets?
Speaker 1: I think listen, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 4: I think NFL tickets are still feasible for the fans
Speaker 4: that are not the cassul fan I'm talk about, for
Speaker 4: the truth fan who's been indebted to their team's year
Speaker 4: in the year out, whether they lose it are winning.
Speaker 4: If I couldn't be wrong, I haven't seen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where you're sitting at Yeah, if you're sitting well
Speaker 2: up now, Yeah, they're feasible.
Speaker 1: They probably three hundred dollars or one hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm telling about listen, compare compare to ten, fifteen,
Speaker 4: twenty thousand.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's that's oh, Joe, how many? Let me ask
Speaker 1: you a question? Unless you run up in the stands.
Speaker 2: Can you shake Can you shake one of those players
Speaker 2: hands if they unless they come there, because you do
Speaker 2: realize court slide court side, you can actually talk to
Speaker 2: the player. Yeah, can you do that NFL game? No,
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. You pay for access, yeah, but right, just
Speaker 2: like sitting behind home plate.
Speaker 1: Home plate costs a lot of money too. What that's
Speaker 1: the prime seat? Hey there, hey boy, listen, you learn,
Speaker 1: you learn something new, You learn something new, man, that's cool.
Speaker 2: The biggest story of the damn basketball with Jimmy Butler's agent,
Speaker 2: fine back at Sham's what do you call it? Bulljyb
Speaker 2: report about teams that Jimmy would be willing to be
Speaker 2: traded to. All right, listen, I gave you a pass
Speaker 2: yesterday because I was busy. Yeah, if you don't stop
Speaker 2: putting my name in your complete and other made up
Speaker 2: bs because you know you normally you normally aren't worth
Speaker 2: my time to acknowledge.
Speaker 1: Damn you.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going what's going to do because
Speaker 2: I'm in the middle age, I'm a middle aged dad.
Speaker 2: But I just know it would be indicates the very
Speaker 2: dislike world, all this fabricated I have never and honestly
Speaker 2: wouldn't help me or the position I represent to do
Speaker 2: anything that's been reported.
Speaker 1: By said journalists. I like that.
Speaker 2: So sham was wrong or shams this is your opportunity
Speaker 2: to say my bad. I let my chat GBT write
Speaker 2: my tweets and went old school. Peter Bessie Chams. Peter
Speaker 2: wasn't writer in the ninety I know you don't know
Speaker 2: who Peter Vessie was, but he was a guy that
Speaker 2: reported and a lot of people have probably he wanted
Speaker 2: to be a trendsetter, and then they knew I was hated.
Speaker 1: Carry all on. Thank you. Heat's owner Mickey Erison reached
Speaker 1: the agent.
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm surprised, but I'm most surprised that
Speaker 2: by is that Sean's actually listed the agents. Normally, they
Speaker 2: would say, my sources say, those close to Jimmy Butler,
Speaker 2: because if you keep.
Speaker 1: Putting the agent's name out there, I ain't gonna give
Speaker 1: you nothing. I'm gonna come out refute it, and I
Speaker 1: ain't give you nothing else.
Speaker 2: Right, That's why my NFL sources say, That's why those
Speaker 2: close to the team say. That's why sources close to
Speaker 2: the players say, so that word you don't have no
Speaker 2: attachment and so man who said that? Who said what
Speaker 2: where did it come from? That's normally how you get
Speaker 2: a story, and everybody.
Speaker 1: To about reveal yourself.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not revealing no sources because I'm in the
Speaker 2: business to break news and if I revealed my sources,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to break news and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be with out of a job. So stop asking me,
Speaker 2: because people stop, fans and players no matter what the sport,
Speaker 2: stop saying, reveal your sources, because they're not.
Speaker 1: I'm in the business that sources are everything.
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter is not going to have a job if
Speaker 2: he ever revealed one source could be done.
Speaker 1: Did you think I'm about to give up a nine
Speaker 1: to ten million dollars year job.
Speaker 2: Just comes some of y'all mad that I got information
Speaker 2: that somebody from your team, somebody from your lawyer's office,
Speaker 2: somebody from the front office leaked or told me. May
Speaker 2: y'all a wout y'all damn mind on purpose at that? Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh no, no, but I'm shocked. That's that's very I mean,
Speaker 2: Sean's has been at this for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he burst on the sceams when he the kawhi story right,
Speaker 2: because the Kawhi Ki came out of nowhere and then
Speaker 2: boom he had it and it was a bombshell. It
Speaker 2: was an earthquake, and literally earthquake happened in California that
Speaker 2: day and it was a second one, and so he
Speaker 2: kind of burst on the scene with that. But I
Speaker 2: was shocked because I would never never tie name to
Speaker 2: anything that I got.
Speaker 1: I like it, I like it. I like it. That's crazy, man.
Speaker 2: That's why you know when I speak, I speak in
Speaker 2: generalities when I talk about the Broncos, or why I
Speaker 2: speak about the Ravens. No, I'm not Finn. I'm not
Speaker 2: fin the rule. I'm not Finna. They called me all
Speaker 2: they want to. I mean players. Oh he don't know, really,
Speaker 2: I don't. Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Now? Are you sure? Are you calling Shannon Sharp a lot? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I didn't think so Okay, we're still cool though. Brandon
Speaker 2: Hay what says Dirt had the best championship run ever?
Speaker 2: Do you agree Dirt Dirty.
Speaker 1: The greatest? You could make a case for the simple
Speaker 1: fact it was Dirt. Jay Kidd.
Speaker 2: Was like thirteen year fourteen, I think j Kid came
Speaker 2: in and what ninety four? They ninety four because he
Speaker 2: and Grant he was a rookie co Rookie of the
Speaker 2: years together.
Speaker 1: What ninety four they met, They meat the Heat that year, right,
Speaker 1: they beat the heat.
Speaker 2: They beat the Heat that year because remember in six
Speaker 2: the heat, the Heat was down two and they came
Speaker 2: back at one four straight. But when you look hong On,
Speaker 2: if you look at what they did, Dirk took down
Speaker 2: the two time defending champ Lakers, He took down OKC,
Speaker 2: and he took down to Miami Heat Big three. So
Speaker 2: you can Brendan Haywood is not far becaus y'all might
Speaker 2: think he crazy, but when you look at what he did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can make a compelling cave that Dirk Nabiski given
Speaker 2: what he was working with. Its not like he had
Speaker 2: a prime Shot or prime Kobe or d Wade and
Speaker 2: all Magic had, Kareem Bird had Parish at McHale. You
Speaker 2: can make a case. You absolutely can make a case.
Speaker 2: You absolutely can, And if you did, I wouldn't. I
Speaker 2: would not I wouldn't be disappointed. I wouldn't be mad.
Speaker 2: If you say, yes, yeah and he had, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be mad because I don't know. If I I don't
Speaker 2: know if I could, I mean I'd have to go way, way,
Speaker 2: way way back and think and even going back to
Speaker 2: when you know the Bullets won in what seventy nine
Speaker 2: it was Wes unselling Elvan Hayes and Bobby dan ridgeld
Speaker 2: you go back to the world be not world be free? Uh?
Speaker 2: Gus Williams, the Wizard Downtown, Freddie Brown, the Eraser, Marvin Webster,
Speaker 2: Jack Sigma. I don't think nobody. I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: has had a run like like what Dirk had. Who
Speaker 2: he beat because, like I said, he beat the two
Speaker 2: time defending shell swept them.
Speaker 1: People don't want to talk about this. They swept the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think, okay, he
Speaker 2: might have got a game offer.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's when they had that trio there too. Huh
Speaker 1: yeah for sure, man, that's created boyshous together.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, some about I said twenty sixteen No, mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you beat a sixty win team in the Hawks.
Speaker 2: But did I mean, did anybody think the Hawks was
Speaker 2: gonna beat Lebron and Kyrie?
Speaker 1: Uh No.
Speaker 2: Kendrick Perkins said Trey Young is the most disrespected Hooper since.
Speaker 4: Mellow disrespected, right, Yes, you know what I mean. They
Speaker 4: given the credit he deserves.
Speaker 1: No, because he should have been an All Star.
Speaker 2: Last year man average twenty seven points a game in
Speaker 2: the nine assists and he couldn't make the All Star team.
Speaker 1: May full of call.
Speaker 4: They did, they did, They did Snubby, They did Stubby.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, when it comes to All Star, who
Speaker 4: does the God damn bowden? Are they gonna say? It's
Speaker 4: the fans?
Speaker 2: Well, the fans, The fans of votes the starters, but
Speaker 2: then it comes down to the players and the coaches
Speaker 2: to select the reserves. The fans the starting five, the fans.
Speaker 2: That's that's all fans, because they want the fans to
Speaker 2: have a say in it. Okay, y'all showing up, y'all
Speaker 2: gonna buy the ticket. So this is who y'all want
Speaker 2: to see. Okay, But uh no, I can see that.
Speaker 2: I don't think he gets the credit that he deserves.
Speaker 2: I think he should have been more, had won more
Speaker 2: All Star appearances. But they make it seem like tread
Speaker 2: is the only way that doesn't play defense. I mean,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of guys that don't play defense
Speaker 2: that are offensive dominant players. But uh, he's he's he's
Speaker 2: a special talent. He definitely should make the All Star
Speaker 2: the All Star team this year. He's leading the league
Speaker 2: in assists. I think he's average eleven and a half
Speaker 2: assist the game he had a thirty twenty game, thirty points,
Speaker 2: twenty assists game against the Lakers. Hit the game winning
Speaker 2: shot a three pointer. Yeah, I can see that.
Speaker 1: Pert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't think Melo, I mean, Mello
Speaker 2: got Damn, Mello got ten level All Star pierces. But
Speaker 2: you got to realize who Melo Mello was in the
Speaker 2: league with Mello came in Kobe Lebron, Jim Duncan, k D.
Speaker 2: But damn, I mean, I mean, what where are you
Speaker 2: gonna put him?
Speaker 1: It was some dogs in that era.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you got you got prime Harden. You remember
Speaker 2: Harden went on that stretch when he first got to Houston. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he's averaging thirty three, thirty six, getting sixty point triple.
Speaker 2: So I'm just trying to figure out, like where we're
Speaker 2: gonna put him. And I think Melo had a fabulous career,
Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody's putting them over.
Speaker 1: You're not putting them over. KD.
Speaker 2: You're not putting them over Step, You're not putting them
Speaker 2: over Hard, You're not putting them over the bron You're
Speaker 2: not putting them over Kobe.
Speaker 1: So what we're doing here? Come on that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, listen, he fisting there somewhere. I
Speaker 4: mean everybody everywhere, everyone you just name are great than
Speaker 4: what they do. But Mellow fishing there somewhere?
Speaker 1: Are you putting him over those guys? Wade putting them
Speaker 1: over the whisky? I didn't say I was putting them
Speaker 1: over those guys.
Speaker 4: I said he belongs in the same category, same category,
Speaker 4: just just not what you don't think.
Speaker 2: So not with Oh, those guys want MVP's finals, MVPs
Speaker 2: win the championships, So Joe, that's got to mean something.
Speaker 1: Okay, I got you, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: That's not the same.
Speaker 2: Mellow wasn't a great player, yes, sir, but when it
Speaker 2: comes to adding to eat st championships matter, right, Like
Speaker 2: we could have a discussion.
Speaker 1: It's Barkley a great.
Speaker 2: Player, absolutely with an MVP, Carl alone a two time MVP.
Speaker 1: But how do I put them? How do I put
Speaker 1: them in front of Donkey? Wow? Right, I guess you.
Speaker 2: I mean, So that's just why I am not to
Speaker 2: say he wasn't great, because he was historically I mean he,
Speaker 2: I mean, he could put the ball in the basket.
Speaker 2: Probably should have taken care of a little better care
Speaker 2: of himself early in his career, right, But it had
Speaker 2: been very interesting to see had he stayed, had he
Speaker 2: stayed in Denver, because what happened is that he going
Speaker 2: to New York. You got New York because they got
Speaker 2: to send everything there to replace you in Denver. So
Speaker 2: when you get there to cover this there, you think
Speaker 2: you what you thought you were going to, right, it
Speaker 2: didn't pan out like that. Yes, Oh, show the twenty
Speaker 2: four the twenty twenty four most viewed NBA player pages,
Speaker 2: and it goes stay by state.
Speaker 1: Can you see what's in front of you? Hello? Now
Speaker 1: I don't see it. We closed it up. Oh I
Speaker 1: thought it was on. I thought you could see it. Hello,
Speaker 1: Hello heldong, No, No, I can't see. Uh you take
Speaker 1: the joy? Uh uh? The fifty states, okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: uh huh.
Speaker 2: Ron James had the most viewed NBA page player pages
Speaker 2: except Denver, except Wisconsin, except Boston.
Speaker 4: There I see it now? Well God, well God leave
Speaker 4: now when we say, most viewed NBA player page? What
Speaker 4: what page do we talk about? We talk about what Twitter?
Speaker 4: We talk about Instagram, doesn't matter, Facebook just in general?
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, hell, he is.
Speaker 4: He is the most popular, most recognizable figure in the
Speaker 4: NBA here in general.
Speaker 1: So I mean this is this is understandable. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is definitely the center. Who in the hell is that
Speaker 1: right in the middle? Jokic in Denver, Colorado? That makes sense?
Speaker 2: And then you got Joannison Wisconsin, and you got j T,
Speaker 2: and you got j T in Massachusetts. But I benched
Speaker 2: Lebron second in all those states.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait which states second? And one? Which ones?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Colorado, Wisconsin in Massachusetts?
Speaker 4: Okay, Well obviously you know why Baul. You know why
Speaker 4: he's second in Boston obviously. Yeah, big got Jason Tatum. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but if it wasn't Jason Tatum, he'd be first. Hey
Speaker 4: who is this all the way up to the top?
Speaker 1: Uh? Like like over there at Milwaukee, that's Yiannis and Wisconsin. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, I had no idea Milwaukee was way
Speaker 1: up there? Man, Yeah, Wisconsin is up there? Oya? What
Speaker 1: the here? You thought it was? Well? I didn't know
Speaker 1: because I don't know the math. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know the glow. I don't know the map that Harbor.
Speaker 1: I ain't been that's the Midwest, Ojo. I ain't been
Speaker 1: in school in forty seven years. Man, Hell, it don't
Speaker 1: seem like you did anything when you was there. I did.
Speaker 1: I was a scholar. I made the Dean's List. What yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you ate you ate Jimmy Dean sausage.
Speaker 4: That's the only thing that we're not gonna do that
Speaker 4: that I made the Deeds list at three three, three
Speaker 4: out of four semesters.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, yeah, we do know you with the JUCO
Speaker 1: What does that have to do with What does that
Speaker 1: have to do with me making the deans? That's the
Speaker 1: thirteenth grade. So not you cou the thirteenth grade. That's
Speaker 1: how you criticism. That's like, oh, man, we all couldn't
Speaker 1: go to Savannah State.
Speaker 2: Man, yeah, he why do you hey by grades already
Speaker 2: you already know by grades were bad. I couldn't have
Speaker 2: got in prison with my grades. It looked like you
Speaker 2: couldn't have got in prison with George either. Actually it
Speaker 2: took me going to say it.
Speaker 4: It took me going to Santa Marca to get myself together,
Speaker 4: which that's how I got that semester at Harvard. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and then I got the ball rolling and understood, you
Speaker 4: know what, let me just do it, let me let
Speaker 4: me do it the way my grandma told me to
Speaker 4: do it.
Speaker 1: And focused on school first and stop trying to put football. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And once I did that, it took off of me. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh. Is the NBA having an ex existential crisis right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Shack says, the NBA is fing terrible.
Speaker 2: Lonnie Walker on the difference between the NBA and the
Speaker 2: EuroLeague's real basketball over here. Gilb Arenas on why NBA
Speaker 2: players are more injured. I talked to a player and
Speaker 2: they asked, why y'all getting all these injuries. He said,
Speaker 2: we're really going from doing nothing to Game one, and
Speaker 2: you know you gotta go out there in efing guard Luca.
Speaker 4: You think that's the reason for the injuries, I think, Well,
Speaker 4: don't nobody really play, Ojoe.
Speaker 1: It's just like the preseason.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody Ojoe we played the preseason you signed out
Speaker 2: that there was four games you played ten twelve fifteen plays.
Speaker 2: The first game you played probably probably about twenty plays,
Speaker 2: twenty five plays. The second game you played into the
Speaker 2: third quarter of the third game, and then you saw
Speaker 2: your ads down in the fourth game.
Speaker 1: These guys don't play at all, and then you go
Speaker 1: out that game. I said, Okay, let's go. What you
Speaker 1: think is gonna happen, Yeah, you go get hurt. Hey,
Speaker 1: but somebody, you know, it's funny when I think about it,
Speaker 1: each of us. Some of these these dudes play basketball
Speaker 1: year round. Huh. They play basketball year round. So I'm
Speaker 1: really not buying the.
Speaker 4: Fact that, okay, because they're not playing right before the
Speaker 4: senior stars are in.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but they playing basketball to get in a condition. No, Joe,
Speaker 2: It's just like, remember what we said, it don't matter
Speaker 2: what you do unless you play real basketball, in real meaning.
Speaker 1: For a moment. I don't care how much you run.
Speaker 1: I don't care how much training camp you get in.
Speaker 1: Go ass dog. Tied that first game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, man, I used to hate Hey, two
Speaker 4: minutes damn tied as hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they mess around to have a couple
Speaker 2: of injuries, and then you go, no huddle, They're like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna tire them out.
Speaker 1: I said, hell, y'all tied me out. Somebody running these routes.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right right, What about me help my legs
Speaker 2: gas too. Man, It's just I mean, it's just, it's
Speaker 2: just I don't want to be the old guy. Get
Speaker 2: off my lawn.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But if you're expecting eighties and nineties basketball to come back,
Speaker 2: it's not coming back.
Speaker 1: It's never going to be that. It's just like NFL football.
Speaker 2: If you're expecting the seventies and eighties and nineties football,
Speaker 2: it's never coming back.
Speaker 1: O yo, It's never coming back.
Speaker 4: You know, in most things when it comes when when
Speaker 4: it comes to life in general, you know, they always
Speaker 4: say history repeats yourself, and intention the way things are happening,
Speaker 4: history is starting to repeat.
Speaker 1: Itself in small instances. Let's say the attention.
Speaker 4: You got to be paying attention, because if you ain't
Speaker 4: paying attention, you can't see it. But when it comes
Speaker 4: to sports, that that will always continue to evolve and
Speaker 4: go forward always.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the thing is not, oh Joe, the guys
Speaker 1: are so skilled. These guys are so skilled now they
Speaker 1: shoot the ball.
Speaker 2: Like I said, look, I'm old enough to remember in
Speaker 2: the late seventies, in the eighties, you had a handful
Speaker 2: of guys that can shoot. You take the best shooters
Speaker 2: from the seventies in the eighties, and the guys that
Speaker 2: are made or beat them in a shooting contest. That's
Speaker 2: how skilled the guys that god are shooting shooting the basketball.
Speaker 2: Now you're shooting. The guys don't work on the post
Speaker 2: up moves. They don't got post up game like an
Speaker 2: Elijah Wand or a Patrick Ewing of a the dominant big.
Speaker 2: Because now they're looking at like that. You probably got
Speaker 2: two bigs that got a real post up game. That's
Speaker 2: mb and that's Yo Kic, right. All the rest of
Speaker 2: them a stretches and even I mean people would probably
Speaker 2: consider jokicch and Embas stretch fives because they got three.
Speaker 1: Point range fords.
Speaker 2: All your forest, all your forest got got three All
Speaker 2: your forest got three point range. I'd be interested to
Speaker 2: see how many how many threes Tim Duncan shot? How
Speaker 2: many threes are kg and Barkley? Now Barkley shot more
Speaker 2: than Karl Malone to be interest in the see but
Speaker 2: now what point you know that they don't shoot threes?
Speaker 2: Two Jabari Parker, Evan Mobley, a d It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: all of them, all of them. It's a different game.
Speaker 2: And you're just gonna have to do. If you're young,
Speaker 2: O joe and you didn't get a chance to see
Speaker 2: this is all you know, you love it. But if
Speaker 2: you got a chance to see old school basketball and
Speaker 2: the passing and the guys and the guys, you know,
Speaker 2: you dumped the ball down and the guys had a
Speaker 2: drop step, and the guys had you know, could throw
Speaker 2: the left hook, could throw the you know hook with
Speaker 2: either hand.
Speaker 1: You're like, you appreciated that.
Speaker 2: You probably didn't appreciate it as much then, but you
Speaker 2: appreciate it after seeing what you see now. It's kind
Speaker 2: of like us, O Joey, Like bro, y'all just go
Speaker 2: across the middle with no repercussions. Y'all catching one the
Speaker 2: quarterback take one step and throw you a slant. I
Speaker 2: wish you would have runner one step flat.
Speaker 1: Robbert? What uh? They said? Yeah, your hammer, your hammer
Speaker 1: to be over there on the sideline. Ray they they
Speaker 1: threw Ray out of the league.
Speaker 4: Oh, he wouldn't have been able to play today. It's
Speaker 4: a lot, it's a lot of defenders wouldn't be able
Speaker 4: to play in today's NFL. Even even though you always
Speaker 4: say you gotta you gotta adapt to the times that
Speaker 4: we're in some of them.
Speaker 1: Now. Can you imagine Rodney Harrison trying to play today?
Speaker 1: No Rodney Harrison, Chuck See, Chuck Cecil, all those.
Speaker 2: Man come on, ain't having it. But but you but
Speaker 2: you just have to, Like I said, I mean, it's changed,
Speaker 2: and it's for the better.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Look, the fans, they love the up and down of
Speaker 2: the NBA. They love getting up and down. I don't
Speaker 2: know if they necessarily like all these threes, but they
Speaker 2: want you to play a little defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, like All Star Game that they just got ridiculous.
Speaker 1: It just got ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And sometimes even the games here, I'm like, bro, y'all
Speaker 2: not gonna even Chell the stopping from laying the ball up.
Speaker 1: It's like a layup line. But this is where the
Speaker 1: game is. And the old guys like Shaq and you
Speaker 1: hear Barkley, you're a lot.
Speaker 2: It's not just shocking Barkley because they you just hear
Speaker 2: shocking Barkley because they're on television a lot. But there's
Speaker 2: a lot of old guys that feel the exact same
Speaker 2: way as shocking Barkley. They just don't have a microphone
Speaker 2: or TV show or on podcast able to glibalize it.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of the.
Speaker 2: Old heads that feel the same way, just like a
Speaker 2: lot of the old heads of the in football feel
Speaker 2: the same way.
Speaker 1: Say, it's too easy. That's why these guys breaking all
Speaker 1: these records.
Speaker 2: That's why they do it all this stuff because there
Speaker 2: ain't no consequences.
Speaker 4: You as a cross that middle, speaking of speaking of
Speaker 4: speaking of breaking records, you think the game of football
Speaker 4: is because they passed the ball so much. There should
Speaker 4: be an asterisk by some spun some of the receivers
Speaker 4: that are breaking some of these records today.
Speaker 1: Plus at a game, you.
Speaker 2: Know, because you here's the thing, Oh Joe, you got
Speaker 2: to understand, like when OJ broke his record, Oj did
Speaker 2: that record in fourteen games. Hed broke it in sixteen games.
Speaker 2: Don't putting no asterisk by a lot of these stats
Speaker 2: were broken. I mean first the NFL season was twelve games. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so now people came with fourteen. They never added
Speaker 2: an asterisk, So no, it wouldn't be fair. Now, look,
Speaker 2: yes they throw the ball board, they do a lot more. Yes,
Speaker 2: and so that's that's a part of it. The Russian
Speaker 2: total em the Smith rushing total is safe. It's safe. Now,
Speaker 2: somebody that breaks Jared record. I mean, they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to play a long time. They're gonna they get an
Speaker 2: extra game. And when they go to eighteen, let's just
Speaker 2: say in the next five years, you're gonna get an
Speaker 2: extra two games. So now, if somebody can play fifteen
Speaker 2: sixteen years and you extrapolate an extra forty five games,
Speaker 2: that's an extra three seasons.
Speaker 1: Now we own the something with Joe. Yeah, you see so,
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think it's fair. It is what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 2: Hell, I ain't got no records anyway, so they broke
Speaker 2: mine the sixties, so it don't matter. But but uh yeah,
Speaker 2: you uh be like yourself would have loved to play
Speaker 2: when they threw the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean, y'all know what the different did. We ran
Speaker 1: the football. That's what we did.
Speaker 2: We we ran you out of the real Yeah, we
Speaker 2: threw them. Don't don't get me wrong. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say that were going to throw the ball ten
Speaker 2: percent of the time. But we were a predominantly running
Speaker 2: football team, right, and you know I got mine.
Speaker 1: I got in where I fit in. But and plus
Speaker 1: the thing is now, I mean they keep tracking records
Speaker 1: like never before.
Speaker 2: I'm like, somebody tweeted something that like, I got the
Speaker 2: most one hundred and fifty yard receiving game for a
Speaker 2: tight end.
Speaker 1: Oh so I didn't know that was a record until
Speaker 1: the Yeah. I didn't even know that was a record
Speaker 1: until somebody said it. Yeah, I saw, I saw earlier today.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't either, cause there are some one hundred
Speaker 2: and forties. I got to, Hey, coach, let me go
Speaker 2: get this. Let me go get this the extra eight yards,
Speaker 2: extra jen yards and get what fifty because that's what
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Ain't such and such needs this many yards or he
Speaker 2: needs a catch to do that and then put him
Speaker 2: back in there.
Speaker 1: Let him get that in a move, especially if he
Speaker 1: got an incentive too in his contract. They're gonna get Yeah.
Speaker 2: But now now, at that point in time, Joe, I
Speaker 2: ain't want once we once we was, look, hell, I'll
Speaker 2: be wanting to come out of the game.
Speaker 1: We lose it.
Speaker 2: It's three minutes left in the game, we down twenty five,
Speaker 2: we passed it. I ain't want no cheat up there
Speaker 2: ass Calgary yards like that, and when we got a big,
Speaker 2: big lead, I ain't tried to be in the game. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 2: how'se get that. I get to get that, man, I
Speaker 2: ain't try to get no more. I'm good, right, I
Speaker 2: ain't trying to pass no STAPs Adam did to that.
Speaker 2: I was dealing my damage and hopefully in a winning effort.
Speaker 2: Now we are all big and staying in the game. Nah, bro,
Speaker 2: I'm good, you know, but Mike was good about that. Hey,
Speaker 2: you want to go back in you want? Noah, I'm good, Mike,
Speaker 2: No cirtain knowing my knowing my luck. I'm in there
Speaker 2: trying to be greeting then somebody I ended up getting it.
Speaker 1: No, I'm good. Hey, let me go send my black
Speaker 1: as down the volume.