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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweetish to the forefront.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, Chris Orne and this is the Keep

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Speaker 2: It Positive Sweetish Show.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Sweeties, welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I know it's been a few weeks since we've seen

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Speaker 2: each other, but have no fear because Keep It Positive

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Speaker 2: Sweetie is here. Today's guest needs no introduction, but you

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Speaker 2: know I'm gonna give you one anyway.

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Speaker 1: She is Atlanta through and through.

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Speaker 2: She is a wife, mom, singer, actress, producer, and a.

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Speaker 1: Grammy Award winning songwriter.

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Speaker 2: You met her through her group Escape and you got

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Speaker 2: to know her really well on the Real Housewives of Atlanta. Sweeties,

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Speaker 2: please give a very warm welcome to Candy Burris.

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Speaker 1: Candy, what's going on? Girl? Uh?

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Speaker 2: You're here finally, but we've been trying to get you

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Speaker 2: on this podcast for since when we go we were in.

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Speaker 1: Fashion Week? Was that February? About it? Yeah, we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about it for a minute for awhile. So we're

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Speaker 1: finally here. So excited to have you. Thanks Pet. How

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Speaker 1: you feel I feel good? Good? Yeah? Good?

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people we know your accolades. Everyone's

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Speaker 2: been a fan of yours since Escape. Tell us a

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Speaker 2: little bit more about you, Candy, birds and your upbringing

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Speaker 2: that we may not know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's like I feel like at this point people know

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Speaker 3: so much about me.

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Speaker 1: But how does it feel like to feel like everybody

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Speaker 1: knows so much? Sometimes it's weird? Yes, right, So I

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Speaker 1: mean that's cool, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just thankful to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 3: be in a space where you know, people do know me. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, because I think a lot

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Speaker 3: of people take that for granted.

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Speaker 1: I feel like at one point.

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Speaker 3: In my younger years, whose you know, even you know,

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Speaker 3: in my group or whatever, at one point we probably

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Speaker 3: took it for granted. And you know, I had to

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Speaker 3: learn like that's not just a giving. That's just because

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Speaker 3: you've done something before. It doesn't mean that people are

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Speaker 3: gonna keep caring. So I'm just kind of like thankful

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Speaker 3: for that. But I mean, as far as my background,

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Speaker 3: I am from Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: May from real Atlanta, because you know they're saying that's

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Speaker 1: not Atlanta. Which Atlanta are you from?

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Speaker 3: It's like, are you talking about where I was born

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Speaker 3: or where I was raised? I was born at Crofit Loan, Okay,

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Speaker 3: and that's that was on Peace Street. They changed the name, Okay,

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Speaker 3: But yes, I was born here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I was raised off Washington Road in East Point.

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Speaker 3: So I guess that's what they're saying. People from downtown Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: They love to be talking about what's not real Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: I got one hundred cousins. I was staying in Atlanta

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Speaker 3: every day. You know, I'm I'm from Atlanta. Stopped playing

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Speaker 3: with me, right, But yeah, and my mom is the

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Speaker 3: youngest of fourteen kids.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And so I have like over eighty something first cousins,

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Speaker 3: not to mention second and third cousins. And we a

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Speaker 3: lot of us are like close. We all love that,

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Speaker 3: like sisters and brothers.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 3: And then my dad's family, you know, he's he was

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Speaker 3: the youngest of three kids. But I don't have many

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Speaker 3: cousins on my dad's side.

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Speaker 1: I just have four.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh that's a big difference.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and my my granddad was a bishop here

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Speaker 1: So you know, both sides fairly very different, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I guess I had a.

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Speaker 1: A very you know, wide range of influence. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: can imagine. That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know Mama Joyce was one of fourteen. Do

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Speaker 2: you have any siblings?

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Speaker 3: My brother passed away when I was young, when I

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Speaker 3: was fifteen, my brother Patrick, and his name was Patrick

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Speaker 3: Riley and that's why Riley's name.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I love that. And then I do have a sister,

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Speaker 2: Okay, got it, simil Okay, Yeah, I have all my siblings.

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Speaker 2: We have different mothers, so like we were all raised

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Speaker 2: also it's awesome to see how as we grow up

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Speaker 2: love that. So you've oh my goodness, you've done so

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Speaker 2: many things from singing to now you're producing, you're a mother,

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Speaker 2: all the things you had Riley an Ace and then Blaze, Tucker,

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Speaker 2: Yes, you had Blaze through surrogacy and that was a

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Speaker 2: decision that you made after struggling with fibroids. Yes, can

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Speaker 2: you walk me through that that journey because I've opened

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Speaker 2: talked about me finally going to the fertility doctor and

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Speaker 2: the options that I have, and that's one of the options.

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Speaker 2: So what is it like and what was it like

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Speaker 2: coming to that moment where this may be my reality

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, for a sand blaze, I had to do IVF. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I had a lot of fibroid issues, multiple fibroid surgery.

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Speaker 3: And so even to get pregnant with as I had

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Speaker 3: to do IVF. Yeah, and with that, I know a

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Speaker 3: I don't know if a lot of y'all who haven't

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Speaker 3: they say the best method to do is you put

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Speaker 3: the egg in the sperm together to make embryona, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: and not that's just basic one on one.

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Speaker 1: Some people just freeze their eggs, right.

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Speaker 1: So we had with what we were possibly able to have.

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Speaker 3: We went from what was twelve dropped down to six embryos,

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Speaker 3: But then I had a high risk pregnancy and that's

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Speaker 3: Good, but luckily, you know, we got ac was healthy,

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Speaker 3: we had to and that's when I talked to doctor

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Speaker 3: Jackie and she helped me find a surguit.

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Speaker 2: And when it comes to that, I know it's gotta

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like what was that? Like it was?

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Speaker 3: They say it could be very very difficult, difficult for

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Speaker 1: Doctor Jackie was the doctor oh perfect.

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Speaker 3: So originally I was just meeting with her to talk

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Speaker 1: Got it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So she made us feel very comfortable in the situation,

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Speaker 1: You know that.

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Speaker 2: Did she come and live with you? Because I know

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Speaker 2: some Sarah's like them, No, like I want you in

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Speaker 3: I'm not that person. So for me, she she she

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Yeah, to see living conditions and all the things. Yes,

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Speaker 3: So even the attorney that we use, so in Georgia,

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Speaker 3: interesting experience, but I'm grateful for it and grateful that

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Speaker 3: to help the process goes smoother.

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Speaker 1: And then just even like the paperwork that you have

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Speaker 3: To first of all getting started and end for when

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Speaker 1: Your child and all of those things. Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: I would suggest if you're going to do it, you know,

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Speaker 2: Speaking of being cheap, like, how much does it cost

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Speaker 2: to do something like this for people who may be thinking.

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Speaker 1: About it, Well, the cost of surrogacy is different.

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Speaker 3: We're you know, different people depending on that surrogate, depending

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Speaker 3: Nah, I was taking them for a couple more months,

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Speaker 3: WHOA, I was still able to work. I was still

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Speaker 3: It's just you know, you just make sure you're doing

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was all over the place, you know what

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Speaker 1: You got it right? I don't know, it's like it

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Speaker 1: Is this what it's like to be the daddy?

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Speaker 2: No, that's you know, yeah, no, but.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had to our body's changing, dealing with

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Speaker 3: burned like that heart I didn't even know what heartburn.

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Speaker 1: Was until I was breaknant with A's like my job.

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Speaker 3: Riley got a lot of hair, a lot of hair,

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Speaker 1: That you got heartburn during pregnancy, that must be true

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Speaker 3: I was like I can't even lay down like when

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Speaker 1: Right It wasn't it right? Yeah? No, for sure, for sure.

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Speaker 2: When you speak on mom Guild, you are You're a mogul,

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Speaker 3: Of course, I feel like every mother that I know

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Speaker 1: And the things that we do because.

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Speaker 3: You know, we want them to realize this is a reason,

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Speaker 3: this is why I had to be here the money

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Speaker 1: But it's all I don't think that ever goes away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Now, I just be honest. I don't watch Real Housewives

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Speaker 2: of Atlanta. Did you like bring your children onto the show?

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Speaker 2: Like were they like when do you open up everything

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Speaker 2: to the show or did you keep your children off?

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Speaker 1: My children was on? They were on there? Okay, so

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Speaker 1: out rally on her own.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that they got a generation or something next.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy. How was that going for her? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think it was different for her, Like she didn't

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Speaker 1: Shoot, right, because for you, she just show up, like

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Speaker 3: Up a couple of times, and you know, but she

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Speaker 1: It's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so and then you know, all the emotional

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Speaker 1: Calling me mommy, you know, and it's like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: whatever race did you give her to help navigate those

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Speaker 1: just right off. Rip.

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Speaker 3: I just told my daughter, Look, be yourself, don't you know.

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Speaker 3: Whatever you say, stand on it. Yeah, don't take it back.

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Speaker 3: You know you can apologize if you look, you know,

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Speaker 1: You said something. Didn't say something that you said.

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Speaker 3: You know we you know, we are known for being

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Speaker 1: I know that's right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So always be a person of your words. So even

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Speaker 3: You know, you'd be like, hey, I met what I

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean I said. And if you

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Speaker 3: do anything that's wrong, you know it's okay. You live

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Speaker 3: to see another day. And your mama always got your back.

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Speaker 1: I know that's right. I love that.

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Speaker 2: When it came to you saying yes to Real Housewives

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Speaker 2: of Atlanta one hundred years.

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00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Ago, right, you were like the longest one.

445
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were the longest housewife, longest running. That's amazing.

446
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 2: Fourteen seasons straight, that is incredible. But you mentioned that

447
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: like after the first season you realize math ain't math,

448
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: and and I gotta do some other things. What was

449
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: that thing that clicked where you like, wait a minute,

450
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: and what did you think you were going to make?

451
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 1: Like when you first started? What did I think?

452
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: What like monetarily thinking like you're going on this show,

453
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: you're open with your life?

454
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Nothing really yeah, what made you say yes? One of

455
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: my friends was it? Rashida?

456
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: I know one of my friends was like, just go

457
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 3: ahead of doing you never know what's gonna come from it,

458
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 3: because I was like, this ain't no money, right, I

459
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: see money, Like what I'm gonna do with this?

460
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: And then honestly, I didn't really think that it was.

461
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 3: Gonna change my life like that because you know, I've

462
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 3: been in a group.

463
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: Right your candy, Yeah, we'd done something.

464
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 3: I was just like, yeah, you know whatever. I had

465
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: watched the first season. I thought it was funny, but

466
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 3: I didn't really see myself being with those ladies, you

467
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: know what I mean, nothing against them, I just didn't

468
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: see how we would be hanging.

469
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: Out, right, I feel yeah, I was like I don't

470
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: know about this, but.

471
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: You know, I was like, okay, well I'll do it

472
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 3: for you. It might be you know, because they did

473
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: wasn't like they really weren't talking about no money, right,

474
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: It wasn't no money.

475
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: But then, man, I just thought it would be something

476
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: cool to do.

477
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and next thing, I know, first day

478
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 3: of tapement, I remember it got real for me day one.

479
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: What happened. They did a scene with me and my mama.

480
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: She said she had me crying, Jack, you had me crying.

481
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: I didn't look. I didn't mean no, no, but I

482
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: was not expecting that.

483
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: I was like, they let you break break in first,

484
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 3: like right, But yeah, and resk was history.

485
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: Wow, we're speaking of that moment with your mom.

486
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: Was there any moments that were therapeutic for you guys

487
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: in the show or anything that kind of came up

488
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: that you hadn't resolved.

489
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 3: We've had so many moments over those fourteens. Yeah, and

490
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: then we had multiple you know, specials and spin offs

491
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: or whatever.

492
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: Now, I did watch your show at the restaurant and

493
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: that was funny. Your candy in the gang so funny. Yeah,

494
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: it was hilarious. It was fun to do too.

495
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 3: But I mean I definitely would say, yeah, I guess

496
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: it would be therapeutic. And then, you know, it was

497
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: a lot of wonderful moments, you know, with my kids

498
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 3: that I can look back and it's like our own

499
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 3: little diary, go back and see parts of our lives.

500
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,439
Speaker 1: My kids can see themselves grow up, you know what

501
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: I mean.

502
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 3: The only thing I find I'm like wow now that

503
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 3: I left, Like Blaze is not going to have the

504
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 3: same experience as Riley, right, you know what I mean,

505
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: but because you know her life is not going to

506
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 3: be just all in front of the camera.

507
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, but it's cool though. You know, I felt like.

508
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: My family had their time to you know, be you

509
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: know that I was able to share them with the world. Huns,

510
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, my cousins on there.

511
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: You know, I met Todd on there.

512
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: You know, you saw the process of me trying to

513
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: get pregnant, having my kids, so manything.

514
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, was there ever any moments where you were like

515
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: I regret opening up about that, where you look back

516
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: or any where you kind of were at home like

517
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 2: why did I let them into this part of my life?

518
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm kind of an open book, so it's not I

519
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: don't really have a lot of regrets.

520
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: Now.

521
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: I'm always saying something that I probably shouldn't say.

522
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: And later on and it'd be my mom to be like,

523
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: did you have.

524
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: To tell everybody that you blah blah blah? Like, well,

525
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: I mean it is what it is, right, But so

526
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 3: I don't really look at anything as a regret, you know, Yeah,

527
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 3: I love that, you know.

528
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: And then like some things you know are put on you.

529
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: You know you didn't you don't have to. It wasn't

530
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: anything you did to put it out there.

531
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: When you on reality TV, especially you know with ensemble cast,

532
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: people be coming at you left and right with all

533
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: kinds of crazy I can imagine. So it's not like

534
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: you always have a choice in the matter, right, Yeah,

535
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 3: you don't know what somebody gonna hit you with and

536
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: be like wait a minute, now, hold on right now.

537
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: You say you've always been an open book, so when

538
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: you got on the show that you go into it

539
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: with the mindset of I'm just gonna be real because

540
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: you're really authentic in your true self. Was that something

541
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: or did you kind of start letting your wall down

542
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: as the seasons progressed.

543
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: I didn't overthink it, Okay.

544
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: I think that's what I don't like about reality TV

545
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: now is let everybody go into everything. It's my brand.

546
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: Oh I gotta worry about my brand. This is my brand.

547
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: That's sometimes to me, it makes them fake, you know.

548
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: What I mean? And I don't like that.

549
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: You know, I'm just like half the time and when,

550
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: like I tell people all the time, these girls we

551
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: having rehearsed reads and stuff like reality TV.

552
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and it was so obvious. But to me it'd

553
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: be obvious. I guess that's your real actor as well.

554
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: You're like, we gotta do that for this. I know

555
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: when you know, I know when you practice.

556
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, But for me, it's like I'm a what comes

557
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: up comes out to the person.

558
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just.

559
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: Like you hit me with something, you're gonna catch whatever

560
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: I was thinking at that moment, right right, And I

561
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 3: feel like it's better for me to roll in there,

562
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, to where it's not like

563
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: overthinking it just stresses me up.

564
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I can imagine that.

565
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of like opening up to things, you've been very

566
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: open about being sex positive and just very open about

567
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: your sex.

568
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: You said, it's so sweet. Now.

569
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: When I was on your podcast, I opened up about

570
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: me staining from sex and you were like flabbergas.

571
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: You were like, what how long says?

572
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 3: Cause what I mean I was flabbergasted by the part

573
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 3: of you saying that you start to have having sex

574
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 3: with the man and then just out the blue, you.

575
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: Just saw him. Yeah, I just thought about it.

576
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm just not It wasn't a thought about it. Yeah,

577
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 3: I talked to me and I'm not having sex anymore now.

578
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 2: That was I was like, and it's hard, like, but

579
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: it's not like anybody else who's been having sex the

580
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: whole life. And then just God reveals him, I don't

581
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 2: want you doing this, and then they like, I gotta change.

582
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: What was the reveal?

583
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: The reveal was, you're living out of the will of God,

584
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: and I need you to focus on me because right

585
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 2: now you're like going down the road of destruction. And

586
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, I need to just really

587
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: focus because if I want a certain type of love,

588
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 2: I've got to carry myself in a certain type of way.

589
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: Like I can't want to be loved like like God

590
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: wants us to be loved and then not be living

591
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: like he wants me to live. So I was like,

592
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: in order to get something different, because I've gone candy,

593
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 2: I want to say heartbreak after heartbreak, and it's just like,

594
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: clearly I'm doing something wrong and it was just like

595
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: one of throwing the tale honestly, because sex clouds everything,

596
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: you know, for me, like when.

597
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: You do it out of the world. For me, it

598
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: was like because you think of it.

599
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: I don't know this is true for you, but for me,

600
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: like as soon as like you like have sex with somebody,

601
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 2: you first you're like.

602
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: Oh, my gods, loving it. Everything is up there.

603
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: It's like I don't even like you like that, like

604
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: the scales fall from your eyes and you're like, oh,

605
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: this is who you really are.

606
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: It takes away from that. I get it.

607
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 3: And you know, I hate having these conversations.

608
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: With and you know, I love the Lord, yes.

609
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 3: But I having these conversations sometimes with people are who

610
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: are on their walk of.

611
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: Faith, right, but these are good countries.

612
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to say anything that's discouraging you

613
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: from doing something that's in the walk of faith, right,

614
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Because listen, I believe in

615
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: God too, you know what I mean. And I definitely

616
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: know that you know, we all fall short of you know,

617
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: every day every day, right, But I just feel like

618
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: sometimes people put too much.

619
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: On the sex part.

620
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's so many other things that sexuality, people's

621
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: choices of you know, their sexuality, choosing to have sex,

622
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: all of the things. I think people act like that's

623
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: the biggest sin in the world and they skip over

624
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: all these other sins and that's the only sin they focus.

625
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: Focus on, exactly. And so that's why when.

626
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: People talk about, you know, for me, for you in

627
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: this conversation, when you say, what am I doing wrong?

628
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: And the relationships, so with sex, the only thing you.

629
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: Were doing wrong to make your relationships and not go

630
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: right for you know, Because for me, when I have sex,

631
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 3: and even when I'm talking about if I'm a I've

632
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 3: been married a long time, twenty fourteen years, and I

633
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: have not had sex with another man since Todd and

634
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: I even dated wow, okay, since we started having sex.

635
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it's been a long time since I've

636
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: been in the pool of meeting men and whatever. But

637
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: I remember what it's like.

638
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: It's get money then, because it's I remember hurdy now

639
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: it was muddy then, it was muddy.

640
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: But what I say in my thought process when I

641
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 3: have sex, I'm having sex for me. I'm not having

642
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: sex just because I'm trying to like you. Now, because

643
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: some women they have sex with the mentality, Oh yeah,

644
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: I want to put this thing on them they.

645
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: Make him do.

646
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 3: I don't care about putting that thing or you can

647
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: make you stay because it's so many things about me

648
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: that should make you stay. Come on, okay, when I'm

649
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: having sex, I'm having sex for.

650
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: Me for you. Like about like soul ties out of

651
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: like in the baggage.

652
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: People say that thing about soul ties, and I hear

653
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: what you say. But there's people in my past that

654
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: I'm not tied to them. I would like to forget

655
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: that we ever had a tie. You know what I mean,

656
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 3: it's untied.

657
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: It's untied. Blieve me is untied. I don't move forward

658
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: like I mean, let's I mean, you ain't a virgin.

659
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, you ain't version about it.

660
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 2: And I felt like I was very open with you,

661
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 2: like I love sex because God wants us to love it.

662
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: He created for tide.

663
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: To everybody that you have sex with in the past.

664
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: There is something that weighs on you with from that

665
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: you take from every person that you have sex with,

666
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: and you may not realize it. If you like the

667
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: certain stresses that you carry, the bonds that you carry,

668
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: you may not realize it.

669
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: But sometimes you look and you're like, why am I

670
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: feeling like this? What is this? And you feel like

671
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: it's directly tied to everybody that's been inside you. Yes,

672
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: I agree.

673
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 3: My stress for the day could be dealing with Disney

674
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 3: deals that I got going on my dad too, the

675
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 3: day deal because I ain't I wasn't able to lock

676
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: in this business opportunity that I was trying to get,

677
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: or you know, for me right now, I'm a husband,

678
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 3: got on my nerves, you know what I mean?

679
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: Or you know, the kids stressing me out.

680
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 3: Not tied to that's nobody that I hooked up with

681
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 3: a thousand.

682
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: No, that's not the thing that I'm saying. But that's

683
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: just like what I'm saying. Yeah I do. Yeah, But

684
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 1: I totally get what you're saying.

685
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: And I love having these conversations, like it's like girls

686
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: talk a great debate, you know, like just even like

687
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 2: we were at your house, in my house, I'm like,

688
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: so like I you're curious to like and even for me,

689
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, like when did sex first come up?

690
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: Like did you grow up like your mom was opened

691
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: up out cause you on black homes just taboo to

692
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: talk about, you know, what I'm saying, you don't really

693
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: mention it. Even if you have a parent that says

694
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 2: when you're ready to have says, come talk to me.

695
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: Even when you do that, it's never a comfortable conversation.

696
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing.

697
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 3: And I always tell people you need to have those

698
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: conversations with their kids way younger than you expect.

699
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: So what age do you think.

700
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: By middle school you should have already had that covers true,

701
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,439
Speaker 3: because that's what we're kind of learning. Some people think

702
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 3: that that's crazy. I'm telling you right now, these kids

703
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 3: in middle school having six Okay, they having sex or

704
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: either they friends having sex. They talking about sex, especially

705
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: now the internet. They over here showing each other stuff

706
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: on the in elementary school, Yes, they're showing each other

707
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: stuff they finding online. Now, when I was little, you know,

708
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: I'm a little older, but you know, everybody be trying

709
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: to sneak to watch the dirty channel. Nil, that'd be fuzzy,

710
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: and you put some in the box and you try

711
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 3: to straighten the channel up so you can see it.

712
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so yeah, my mom was not having conversations

713
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: with me that early.

714
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was finding out things through my friends.

715
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 3: Right, you know what I mean or and you don't

716
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: want their friend to be the one that tells them about.

717
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: Sex, right, No, you know what I mean, that's so true.

718
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: No, my mom used to always say the worst thing

719
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: getting pregnant is not the worst thing that could happen.

720
00:36:58,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: She was like, you can get the STD that you

721
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: and get rid of.

722
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 2: She would always put that fear in me, and she's like,

723
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: but I want you to be able to come and

724
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: talk to me about it. And then when you go

725
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 2: talk as like you ain't ready to have sex, I'm like,

726
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: these are the things I'm feeling, you know.

727
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: So it kind of in that home, like.

728
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: You know what advice you're going to give to a

729
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: kid one day when they say that to you.

730
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, for me, I mean, honestly, I don't have children

731
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: right now, but you have to be realistic, you know

732
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying with the honestly the influences of the

733
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 2: world where they are now, how you said, like kids

734
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: at elementary school showing each other videos like do you

735
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 2: see this? So at a young age, just talking to

736
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: letting them know, And honestly, I'll be raising my children

737
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: in the church under the foundation of Christ, so they

738
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: can know right from wrong.

739
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: At a very young age, but.

740
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: Like also just teaching it and being realistic, like, hey,

741
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: I know these urges are going to come up, your

742
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: homeowns are going to start changing, and I do want

743
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: my children to be able to come and talk to

744
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: me and we can have open dialogue about it so

745
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 2: they can one be healthy, but also protect them and

746
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: given the other consequences that come along with it, you know,

747
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: and try to protect them as much as I can. Yeah, yeah,

748
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 2: what advice would you give your children? Like what I know,

749
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: Riley's older, but like your younger daughter.

750
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: Like, well, how I am that auntie, that cousin that

751
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 3: everybody come to really something they need to talk about

752
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: it or something that went wrong. I always try to

753
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: catch them before it go. Yeah, now, I remember I

754
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: definitely had cousins that were talking about six in middle school.

755
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: We all did, for sure.

756
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: But I was having that conversation about HPV viruses all

757
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: of that, showing them the website to where it showed

758
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: them how these things.

759
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: Are past how their age because it's running rampant.

760
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: I was talking to them about you know, obviously bird control.

761
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: I was talking about all the things and yes, you

762
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: can tell them, you know, it's best not to do it.

763
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: What I always would tell most of the girls, I'd

764
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: be like, first of all, don't be up there doing

765
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: nothing with nobody to go to school with you, because

766
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 3: if y'all break up, he gonna tell all his friends,

767
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: definitely that y'all did it. And then after that, your

768
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: next boyfriend is gonna say, well, you did it with him, and.

769
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna be you're gonna feel pressured. Yeah, don't do that.

770
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: I'll have real, real conversations right yeah, with you know,

771
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: family friends.

772
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, that's good.

773
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: With the internet and you've being you being very open

774
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: with it. Has it ever been a moment where your

775
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: daughter is coming like mom, like this is what the

776
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 2: kids are talking about at school?

777
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: Or has it? I was talking to her before she

778
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: had to come to meet stuff. Okay you know what.

779
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, you're like how you're very doing videos

780
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: like with candicoten nights and stuff like that.

781
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,720
Speaker 1: Has any of that well you mean my personal section?

782
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, like has kids have kids? Your kids have come

783
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: and say something.

784
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 3: No, I go to that. Okay, I mean I've had

785
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 3: those conversations with a's and right, but definitely.

786
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: In middle school. Well, I think.

787
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: Rowley was probably in middle school or I guests just

788
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 3: getting into high.

789
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: School, probably get high school.

790
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: I can't remember when that whole dungeon accusation came about.

791
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: So yes, I had a conversation with my child about like, okay,

792
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 3: this is what happened.

793
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: And blah blah blah blah blah.

794
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So was it awkward for you to have

795
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: or you just like this is what it is like

796
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: everything else, this.

797
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: Is what it is now. I know it sounds crazy.

798
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: It sounds crazy that I'm able to talk to my

799
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: kids about, you know, stuff like that. But the crazy

800
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 3: part that y'all don't realize their friends are already talking

801
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: about stuff like absolutely so for them, you know, when

802
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 3: you explain like.

803
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: This is what happened, this is what they said.

804
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: This part is not true. Do not believe I would never,

805
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean? Then it's like this

806
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 3: is just.

807
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 1: Like oh okay, it's like bothing right along. Yes, okay,

808
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: that's good.

809
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: When it comes to Raley, your older daughter, how do

810
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 2: you talk to her and say, hey, like she's a mom,

811
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: like I'm ready to have sex?

812
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: Like what is it that you tell her? You say?

813
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 2: As your daughter and like are you Are you pushing

814
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: her to be as sex positive as you are or

815
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 2: do you just tell you make your own decision, that's

816
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 2: on you. Raley's grown, grown girl. How is Rally now?

817
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: She just turned twenty three? Oh, yeah, she's grown girl. Yes,

818
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: she's grown grown.

819
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: I had, like I said, I had always had conversations

820
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: with her. So the first time she had any experience,

821
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 3: not I'm not telling her business because I don't want to.

822
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely tell her business, how old or any of that.

823
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: Yes, but even the first time she said something, even

824
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 3: with all of that, I cried. I didn't even I

825
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: didn't tell her that I was crying.

826
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: She called me. I was out of town and she

827
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: said something, and I.

828
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Was just like, oh, okay, as tears are just streaming

829
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: down my.

830
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Past because in my mind, you know, I'm a little

831
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: out there. But you know, Riley is not so hurt

832
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: to hear that she was even thinking about anything.

833
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, but I didn't want to

834
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: let her know, so I you know, I didn't let

835
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 3: her hear my voice.

836
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: Yes, but and I appreciated that she wanted.

837
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: To discuss it with me and trusted you and trusted

838
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 2: me enough to say it she could be going to

839
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: the cousin and aunt that most people come to talk

840
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: to you exactly.

841
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: But I ain't gonna lie. I was a little like

842
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: thrown off because I didn't.

843
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,919
Speaker 3: I don't know why I never thought about that actually coming,

844
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: even though I know really is gonna come.

845
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: Na, what do you think he mooted the tears, was like,

846
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: this is my baby so innocent?

847
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Like what, okay, that's what I'm talking about, candy?

848
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 1: Like what like if they brought you to tears?

849
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 2: What was it about sex that made you cry that

850
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: your daughter's having it now?

851
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 3: Because in my mind, and this is another thing I

852
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 3: try to say to young ladies, even though I don't

853
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 3: want to wish bad on y'all little boyfriends, but chances

854
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 3: are you are not gonna end up with that person.

855
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Mama's always telling me that that is

856
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: not gonna be the one.

857
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 3: Ever, And you gotta kind of go into the situation

858
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: in your.

859
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: Young years knowing that you might.

860
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: You were probably gonna look back a decade later and

861
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 3: be like, I hate this.

862
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: Man could tell people he ever was with saying I'm

863
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: with you.

864
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: I like you know, and I'm just like I you know.

865
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: Of course, you know that it's gonna happen, but you

866
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 3: know I didn't want.

867
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: Your baby, yes, but you were not ever be with

868
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 2: that person, right, yeah, No, so true. Something that I

869
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: admire you about and that I've been very vocal about

870
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: is just your business since and I'm really big on

871
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: financial literacy. You said that you may mention that your

872
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: mom taught you not to put all your eggs in

873
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: one basket. What are some of the lessons that you've

874
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: learned over the years, because you have such longevity just

875
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: about financial literacy so much.

876
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: This is where I need you, Okay. The first thing

877
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: she used to always say was good credit was better

878
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: than money. Come on, and simply because you know, I

879
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: don't care if you got a hundred thousand dollars cash

880
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: in right there.

881
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: If you ain't got a good credit, that's all you

882
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: can afford. Ask one hundred thousand dollars.

883
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: You got good credit, you can get something next five

884
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 3: hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand whatever, you know, right,

885
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: So that was the first money lesson she would always

886
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: tell teach me.

887
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: But for me.

888
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: Re reading the Millionaire next Door when I was like seventeen, Wow.

889
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 2: It was we were ahead of your time, because no

890
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 2: kids are reading that unless their parents.

891
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: Our group got our record deal when I was sixteen,

892
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: So my whole goal in life was to never be

893
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 3: that teen star that be broke later.

894
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: And I love that.

895
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: So that was like I was, all those teens don't

896
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: have that mindset, Well I was.

897
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: I love it. I was always on a mission to

898
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah.

899
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: So I started reading you know, financial books and different

900
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: things in my teens.

901
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: But the other thing, multiple lessons. One, I didn't trust accountants.

902
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: Our first account that our group had, they stole like

903
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: one hundred thousand dollars was from us. What yes, putting

904
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 3: it all under miscellaneous, you know, and you on tour

905
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 3: and the like one hundred thousand dollars worth of miscellaneous

906
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: and we teenagers.

907
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: We don't know, you know what I mean? Like then

908
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: the dude ran off, so we can't rest charge nothing. Wow.

909
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:22,720
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was a bad experience for me. Now,

910
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 3: and I've had account one or two and after that

911
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: that paid bills for us. But when I got like

912
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: mid twenties, early twenties somewhere in there, Yeah, I write

913
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 3: all my checks. I love my I write all of them.

914
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 3: Nobody is signing nothing for me same. You know, I

915
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 3: think I heard Oprah say that.

916
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: Yep, she taked Tyler, and Tyler taught me I sit

917
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: there and watch him, and you know, it's a lot

918
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: of checks, yeah, he said, there and click every single one.

919
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: And what is this yeah?

920
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 3: Question is I'm like, yeah, nobody has permission to go

921
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: and sign nothing good for you, you know what I mean.

922
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 3: So that's important because even if you spending a lot,

923
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 3: you need to see see it go out, yes, and

924
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: see something coming into yeah, because like sometimes you be

925
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: spending and you don't realize yes. The other thing is

926
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: simple things like I always tell people, put your bill

927
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: money in one bank. You're spending money in a different bank.

928
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Come on, so your cash app and f off money,

929
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: you know, money you just mess up. Put that in

930
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: the other bank.

931
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: Don't put it in your bill account because they will

932
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: go back if you overdraft. They're gonna overdraft out your

933
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 3: bill money if you send the same bank, right, And

934
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: so you need to have them in separate banks.

935
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: And then that allows you to like.

936
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna be able to budget my money right,

937
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 3: my bill's gonna be on time, and you know, everything's

938
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 3: gonna be right.

939
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have anything coming out.

940
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 3: Of this account and don't even keep an ATM card

941
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: for that account. Yep, I don't even have an ATM

942
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: card for my Yeah, so if somebody takes something out

943
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 3: of my wile you think you got my team car,

944
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 3: you ain't getting name, right, ain't getting name. It might

945
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 3: be two hundred dollars in there that you right have

946
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: at it not getting.

947
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: To the real maybe, right, you know what I mean?

948
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you gotta be vigilant with things like that

949
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 3: because you could be your own worst enemy when it

950
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: comes to budgeting and spending.

951
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, yeah that's real.

952
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: You were nineteen years old when you bought your first

953
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: home and lkouj gave you advice and make sure you

954
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: have a car that you own, in a house that

955
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 2: you own, so you always have a car to get

956
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: around in a place.

957
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: To lay your head. Yeah.

958
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: First of all, a lot of people cannot say they

959
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: bought a house at the age of nineteen.

960
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: But so that's hats off to you for that.

961
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: But what did that lesson teach you at a very

962
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: young age about just managing and home ownership, because that's

963
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 2: a big, big responsibility.

964
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 3: Well, the other thing that he said was, every time

965
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: you get a check, throw a little bit extra towards

966
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 3: the principal, because you know, I allow you to, you know,

967
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 3: take years off your loan.

968
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: Yes.

969
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: So as soon as he told me that, because I

970
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: used to when I was younger, I was better with

971
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 3: money than I am. Now, let me just say that,

972
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: I used to budget my check book down to the pennies.

973
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 1: So I had way home.

974
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 3: I looked at a little statement, and you know how

975
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: when you see and tell you the principal the text,

976
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 3: and then you know the.

977
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: Insurance and all that.

978
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: So when I added up my principal, I was like,

979
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,439
Speaker 3: it's really not that much going a year towards the principal, right,

980
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 3: all of that's going to the interests and stuff.

981
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: And the I realized what he.

982
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: Was saying was right, and so I was like, okay,

983
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: if I just put like, you know, so even if

984
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 3: I got five hundred dollars, I'm putting the extra fifty

985
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: dollars to the principal, or I'm gonna put an extra,

986
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 3: you know, if I get a big check, extra thousand,

987
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 3: and then next thing, you know, and then over a

988
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: couple years, you knocked that thing going the way down,

989
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 3: you know, and it's important, especially when you are your

990
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: own boss entertainment, especially because you know our stuff is

991
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 3: up and down. You know, one minute you popping, you

992
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 3: making all the checks in the world, next minute you not.

993
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 3: And you know your run might last. You get your

994
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: good five ten years and some people think that never ends.

995
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: And it does.

996
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 3: But if you got a thirty year loan, know that

997
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: at the ten year mark, your checks is not gonna

998
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 3: be the same as when you first started it, or

999
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: your journey at your fifteen year mark is not gonna

1000
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: be the same. Your job situation may change, anything could change.

1001
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: So stop thinking you got so much time and money

1002
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: to be able to just blow right now, you know

1003
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1004
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 3: Because if you go ahead and start knocking that loan

1005
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 3: down by the time you get fifteen years into it,

1006
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 3: and you could just stop and then you don't have

1007
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:57,840
Speaker 3: a mortgage.

1008
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: Come on outright?

1009
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: What you know? Yes, things like that people don't even

1010
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: think about, and it's little things that you can do.

1011
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: Yes, you know.

1012
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you talked about the life insurance policy and that

1013
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: is still going viral.

1014
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: That interview was so long, Are you serious? Yeah, it

1015
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: just popped back up.

1016
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: I was like, oh wow, it keeps popping up, and

1017
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: I have a life insurance policy and that was a

1018
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 2: part of the reason, like once you get investment life

1019
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: where you can pull from it. And I was like,

1020
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 2: oh wow, once she had a certain age, how old

1021
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: were you when you learned about that?

1022
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: And so I was twenty six. That was the year

1023
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 3: I had Riley and my intentions were to, you know,

1024
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: make sure that Lord for being something happened to me,

1025
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: because you know, I'm single. Mama, I'm like, Lord for me,

1026
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 3: some don't make it out of here. At least she

1027
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 3: got something right. So I had got a pretty big

1028
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 3: policy at the time. But shout out to my people

1029
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: who were at the bank, I don't care. She had

1030
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: introduced me to at the first I think it was

1031
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: the first one I did was with Hertford life okay,

1032
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: and they had did this whole analysis and they broke

1033
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 3: down how much I was going to because they say, okay,

1034
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 3: how much money do you think you need to retire?

1035
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 3: And back then I thought I was going to retire

1036
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 3: at forty y'all.

1037
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what was.

1038
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: I thinking, but they were like, okay, so this is

1039
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 3: how much you got to put into it in order

1040
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 3: to be able to retire at forty and get two

1041
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year. Now, mind you,

1042
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 3: that was a lot of money I had to put

1043
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: into it, yeah.

1044
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: Each year.

1045
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: But honestly, I ended up only having to put it

1046
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 3: in for eight years. I thought I was gonna have

1047
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: to put it into forty, but it was only to forty.

1048
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 3: If I wanted to start pulling out at forty, yeah,

1049
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 3: but to just lock it to where I never had

1050
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 3: to put no more money.

1051
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: Into it, it was you know, like eight years.

1052
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, So at that point I didn't put no more

1053
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 3: in and it has grown.

1054
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: To the point now well until last year, I've.

1055
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: Up did tremendously, So it was so much in it

1056
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 3: last year my bank is like, you know, if you won't,

1057
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: you can just do this exchange thing and it will

1058
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:36,240
Speaker 3: triple them ount that yeah, that you were insured for previously. Wow,

1059
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: But now I won't be able to pull out pull

1060
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: any out for another few years. But during that time,

1061
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: and let me just say, because so many people were like,

1062
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's difference of opinion.

1063
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: So some PEO people investors say.

1064
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 3: Well, the money that you put into that life insurance policy,

1065
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 3: you could have put it in this.

1066
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: They're always going to have another.

1067
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 3: You know thing, and it would have grown this much

1068
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: and you could have had that much and blah blah

1069
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 3: blah blah.

1070
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: But what I knowing what I know now.

1071
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: So what I say, I always tell people to diversify.

1072
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't just put in insurance.

1073
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, you want to have the insurance, because one insurance, hey,

1074
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 3: even if you ain't putting that much in it and

1075
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 3: you kick the bucket tomorrow, your family got exactly whatever

1076
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 3: insurance was.

1077
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 1: Working, right, Okay.

1078
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: But the other part of it is the money that

1079
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: you put in there is it's kind of protected because people,

1080
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: I mean, they could try, but they can't really sue

1081
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: your life or just right right.

1082
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: But that's another thing. The other thing is.

1083
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:44,879
Speaker 3: You can the way that the investment policy works, you're

1084
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 3: able to borrow the money from your policy. So that's

1085
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: money you're taking out tax free that you really ain't gonna.

1086
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: Pay it back, so as it's growing.

1087
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: So say, fran instance, when I bought my house and

1088
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: I bought it for their closure, it was a foreclosure,

1089
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: so at forecloses a lot of times you have to

1090
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 3: pay cash for right, I was able to just go in,

1091
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 3: pull the money out and buy the house.

1092
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. And yeah, and I'm good,

1093
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1094
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: So it's so it was so many benefits. And when

1095
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 3: the market went crazy, you know, like remember that year when.

1096
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: Real estate everything with the hell, I can't remember, it

1097
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: was crazy.

1098
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, my insurance was still there. Yeah, it was still there.

1099
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 3: You know, it didn't disappear, right, So I just rode

1100
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: out the market, you know what I mean. Whereas some people,

1101
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, it was panicking, so they was pulling any

1102
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 3: money out the stocks.

1103
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: It was pulling any money out.

1104
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 3: Of this and not realizing that eventually that stuff is

1105
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: gonna come go back up and hire.

1106
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: So even the stocks that I had, I didn't. I

1107
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 1: didn't panic. I just left there and it grew back,

1108
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 1: It came back.

1109
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 3: So I do tell people you should have it diversified

1110
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 3: and get your a little crypto too.

1111
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, how gotten there? I got to get into that. Yes,

1112
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1113
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 2: It's something about not being able to see it where

1114
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, how does this really work?

1115
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 3: You gotta take a little chance every now and then,

1116
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna look into it for sure.

1117
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: You are.

1118
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: Now I'm actually producing your own Broadway. You're doing so

1119
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: many different things outside of music.

1120
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: What pushed you? Just like I want to start producing

1121
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: Broadway plays.

1122
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like everything that I've done, I've always

1123
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: liked to know. I like to know the behind the

1124
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,760
Speaker 3: scenes as well as in front.

1125
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: Don't matter if it was music.

1126
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 3: Obviously, I started going out and saying rain and producing

1127
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 3: for other people TV film, I was on camera. Then

1128
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 3: I started producing, and you know with film and television,

1129
00:56:55,160 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 3: and same thing with Broadway. I was on Broadway with

1130
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 3: Chicago on Broadway, and then I knew I wanted to

1131
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 3: That was Mama back.

1132
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: It was Mama more.

1133
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and I knew I wanted to go back at

1134
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 3: some point, and I didn't know in which way. Yeah,

1135
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 3: opportunity came up to be a producer, and that's when

1136
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 3: I met my producing partner. Shout out to you, Brian Morland.

1137
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 3: He was doing Thoughts of a Colored Man at the time.

1138
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 3: I went to say it twice, so yes, you're welcome.

1139
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: It was so good, I want to tell you, cried

1140
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: both times. Phenomenal like are they gonna bring that that?

1141
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: Because we need to.

1142
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 3: But it was a great learning experience and but anyway

1143
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: we it was during COVID and it was so much

1144
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 3: going on it. Yeah, I was very emotional. We had

1145
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: to shut it down early because of the rules, I remember. Yeah,

1146
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: but we decided we was gonna go for another one

1147
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: and we did and each time it has gotten better

1148
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 3: and better and better, and I feel like I learned

1149
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 3: more and more and now I feel like I'm official

1150
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 3: in this lane.

1151
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: You just did like huge.

1152
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 2: And I actually kind of went too that twice because

1153
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 2: Shauna and I were supposed to go and I bought

1154
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 2: the tickets on the wrong day.

1155
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got that.

1156
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 2: I'm like trying again, so I know I bought these tickets.

1157
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 2: He's like, and I'm like, oh my gosh, looked at

1158
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: the day.

1159
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: I was a week late. Oh my goodness. So I

1160
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: went back.

1161
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I went to co Othello twice too, and

1162
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: actually want to see it the second time and it.

1163
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Was thank You're welcome. I appreciate, Yes, so proud of y'all.

1164
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: That that was huge. Thank you.

1165
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 3: It was like a blessing. Like I was a I

1166
00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 3: was a theater kid when I was younger.

1167
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: I went to Tri Cities High School of Visual and

1168
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: Performing Arts. Shout out to try High.

1169
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 3: Everybody that was, and I also was in the Youth

1170
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: of Sumber of Atlanta. Shout out to Freddie Hendricks. So

1171
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 3: that was something I did in my teen years that

1172
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 3: I always wanted to do, but.

1173
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: Music took off first for me.

1174
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: And after a while being in music, I'm like, why

1175
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: haven't I ever tried to go after my initial dream exactly?

1176
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: Why?

1177
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: So I just I had changed my agent and I

1178
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: told them what I wanted to do. I wanted to

1179
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 3: be on Broadway, and that's when I got the audition

1180
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: to do the Chicago and Broadway and from there it

1181
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: just was like I just wanted to expand.

1182
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. When it comes to investments, what

1183
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: has been like.

1184
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: The biggest thing that you were like, I regret doing

1185
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: that that maybe an investment failed for you because you

1186
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 2: had a lot of success.

1187
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: I'd take a lot of gimbals.

1188
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 3: Ooh, I've had a lot of things that have happened,

1189
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: so many things. Let me just I could run a list.

1190
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I can start with music is always a gamble, Okay.

1191
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: We love music. Music it's a gamble.

1192
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: I know at one time I was doing my own album,

1193
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 3: and you know, when you are like an opening act,

1194
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 3: sometimes you have to get tour support from your label

1195
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And I remember my manager at

1196
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 3: the time told me I was supposed to be getting

1197
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 3: some money from the label that I was with at

1198
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 3: the time. He was like, Oh yeah, they're going to

1199
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 3: pay this and that, and I was going to be

1200
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 3: on tour. So I started fronting the setup for myself, because.

1201
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta get the hotels.

1202
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 3: It's a lot that talks about going on tours a

1203
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 3: lot of things. So I started fronting all the money

1204
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 3: for myself. But we about to actually leave to go out,

1205
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 3: ain't came yet from I'm like, well, where the money

1206
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: at what? And like two weeks and then the tour

1207
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 3: after I'm like one hundred and some thousand dollars in,

1208
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 3: he tells me that they said that they weren't paying it.

1209
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: Oh no, he gotta pay that because what no, I

1210
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 3: had money gone, Oh my god. And I'm wanted those

1211
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: people like I don't mind gambling, but I like to prepare,

1212
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 3: Like I'd be like, Okay, I'm gonna gamble this on that.

1213
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 3: But when you don't know that you're gambling, when you

1214
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: spend right and you don't know that this had to

1215
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 3: come back exactly, yeah, sad go. I had to grind

1216
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 3: that money right back. I was like, oh my god,

1217
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 3: we gotta get back, get to the streets.

1218
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: What are we doing?

1219
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: So?

1220
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I've been gambling on a girl group you know, yes,

1221
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 3: how do you pronounce it for them?

1222
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 1: Siren? Siren? Yes?

1223
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. People

1224
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 3: don't know how much it takes to like get a

1225
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: girl group of off. And it gets started so expensive,

1226
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 3: so expensive, and one of the girls quit what yes,

1227
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: did she know how much you've been investing in her?

1228
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: In them? Ken? Anyway? Like, what are you like infuriated?

1229
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: Are you like what is happening?

1230
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 3: I am so infuriated, solid infuriated, because it's one thing

1231
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 3: when you're gambling on someone on yourself, but when you

1232
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 3: gambling on other people's and you want to see other people.

1233
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: When more than they want to see it.

1234
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 3: You you have to understand that when you see it

1235
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 3: for somebody else so bad that you're willing to put

1236
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 3: your money on the line for them, and then only

1237
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 3: for it to fall apart, only for you to know

1238
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: that people are going to be.

1239
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,080
Speaker 1: Like, whoa, they should have did this? So why Kendy

1240
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: didn't do this.

1241
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 3: Look, and I've been thinking about all this money I

1242
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 3: don't expect, right shah. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's the

1243
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 3: behind the stuffing, behind the scenes stuff people don't see.

1244
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you meet I meet a million people

1245
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 1: of that. It's like, Candy, will you do this for me?

1246
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: Or you invest that in me?

1247
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: And when you they don't understand where the apprehension comes

1248
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 3: from because it's not the first time that I've tried

1249
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,280
Speaker 3: to help another artist or whatever.

1250
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 1: And you know, now I'm like trying to.

1251
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 3: Figure out, like, Okay, what are we doing this situation.

1252
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: I still got two more young ladies that are extremely

1253
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 3: talented that I still want them to win, And it's like,

1254
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 3: you know, where do we go from here?

1255
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:46,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? So it is yeah, yeah,

1256
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: I want to ask you something.

1257
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 2: It just came to me as you were saying that

1258
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 2: everybody's a candy candy, candy, candy candy. When you go

1259
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: home at night after heavy days, like what is your reset?

1260
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: Like how do you with everything?

1261
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: Oh?

1262
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,919
Speaker 1: Cause seems like it's a lot. Yeah, it is a lot.

1263
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: My last week was heavy.

1264
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 3: I decided to go to a hotel and treat myself

1265
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: to a spot.

1266
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: Good for you.

1267
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 3: And at home, whether it's it's staycation. But honestly, I

1268
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 3: don't really take a lot of time for myself. I

1269
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 3: don't really take a lot of time to.

1270
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: Woo saw. Yeah.

1271
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: I'm always just jumping to the next thing and trying

1272
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: to keep things going business wise, or to keep my

1273
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 3: focus in a good place.

1274
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,480
Speaker 1: Because you know, you creative.

1275
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm a creative, so you know, sometimes that creative energy

1276
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 3: just picks you up.

1277
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: It does you know what I mean. It puts another

1278
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: It puts a battery in your back, and you're like, yeah,

1279
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 1: it definitely puts a battery in your back.

1280
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 3: So that and hanging out with my kids, you know,

1281
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 3: that's the fun stuff.

1282
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you ever feel like you're pulling from an

1283
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: empty cup? Completed? So I want to challenge you to

1284
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: take time for yourself. That's important. That's crazy that you're like,

1285
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: I don't do that. You have to.

1286
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think in those moments you'll probably Which is

1287
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 2: a big part of the fasting right now is because

1288
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I'm like, go, go go, how can

1289
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: we build?

1290
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: How can we scale?

1291
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I need to be sale for a minute,

1292
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: you know, and really like figure out what do I

1293
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: truly want? Am I like in a rat race right now?

1294
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 1: Am I just going on a.

1295
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: Hamster wheel and circles to really figure out what it

1296
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: is that you want and like find those moments of

1297
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 2: just candies happiness because it sounds like you feed into

1298
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people and everybody's like, can you give me,

1299
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: give me, give me, give me.

1300
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: Give me, gim me. Yeah. Yeah, someone I want to

1301
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 1: challenge you to do that because you need that sis

1302
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: oh truy, Yes, dude, I'm tried. We gotta do it.

1303
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, like I tell my people all the time,

1304
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: like listen, if you need a moment, like go like

1305
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: I please, because we can't be our best sales and

1306
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 2: show us our best sales if we always exhausted and

1307
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 2: always like constantly having to like think of the next thing.

1308
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: That is true. Yeah, that's true. You can do it.

1309
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: I got a real busy end of year.

1310
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you probably need a little moment right before that,

1311
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: just so you can push through that.

1312
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 1: Even if it's just a little staycation on the weekend,

1313
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: you can do it. Something something. Yeah.

1314
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: When it comes to this season where it's all about impact, now, when.

1315
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: Your story is told years from now, what do you want.

1316
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 2: Candy Burst's legacy to be when they talk about you?

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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, it's always kind of weird when people

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Speaker 3: ask me that question because I'd be like, what are

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Speaker 3: they gonna say about me?

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Speaker 1: When I'm always thinking about that, I was like, what

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Speaker 1: are they going to say? I want people to say

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Speaker 1: and that.

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Speaker 3: I was a woman who opened doors for a lot

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Speaker 3: of people, and I helped a lot of people along

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Speaker 3: the way, Like I wanted to be so many people

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Speaker 3: that stand up and say Candy looked out for me,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and or you know, whatever

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Speaker 3: the experience was helped them in some way, Like you know, obviously,

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Speaker 3: I want to set my kids up for greatness and

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Speaker 3: I want them to be set up to enjoy life

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Speaker 3: and be happy. Yes, and but I want, you know,

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Speaker 3: to feel like I helped my community, I helped my friends,

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Speaker 3: I helped my family, and.

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Speaker 1: I did it with no complaints. Yes, I love that.

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Speaker 2: I love that when you're saying that that people that

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Speaker 2: you looked out for people. I remember it was very small,

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Speaker 2: but it meant so much to me. We were at

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Speaker 2: fashion week and it was my first fashion week and

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Speaker 2: I'm standing in the room at the basement of Sergio

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Speaker 2: Hudson Show, and like everybody's like Kenny, Kenny, everybody take

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Speaker 2: pictures and they're like nobody's like Crystal, listen to get

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Speaker 2: a picture, and you're like, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: Come on. And it was just the moment of being

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Speaker 1: seen in a room where you got here. It comes again.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to cry today, You're not going to

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Speaker 1: do this. I was like, I can't believe I made

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Speaker 1: it without.

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Speaker 2: But it's a moment of like being seen in a

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Speaker 2: room where you feel invisible, and in that moment you

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Speaker 2: saw me. I think that was just a small glimpse

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Speaker 2: of me being able to see your heart and who

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Speaker 2: you are. And I was like, now, thank to you.

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Speaker 2: Then I was like, thank you so much because you

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Speaker 2: didn't have to do that. You're like, no, you're welcome,

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Speaker 2: but it was so sweet.

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Speaker 1: I was like it may have been small to you,

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Speaker 1: but it was really big to me. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I mean overall, like I told you, I love what

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Speaker 3: you're doing. Your growth, you know, I remember you know

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Speaker 3: before you start being on TV.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just hang around go set and being around.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just being in the same circle. I just always

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Speaker 3: I admired your you know, your journey that you thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, anything that i could do to help

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Speaker 3: shine a light, I'm going to do that.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel that, and I know my community is

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Speaker 2: rooting for you. We're going to support everything you have

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Speaker 2: going on. And is there if there's anything like upcoming

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Speaker 2: that we can jump on when this episode airs, please

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Speaker 2: let us know. Yeah, let us know how we can

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Speaker 2: swart and we'll make sure that we put that in

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Speaker 2: the cabs and say hey, make sure y'allso wor candy

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Speaker 2: or put in our stories.

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Speaker 1: Whatever we can do. We got you. Says yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, but thanks for having me. Yes,

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Speaker 1: had a good time.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you could tell our audience where they can

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Speaker 2: find you, Okay, hey, everybody, you can find me at

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Speaker 2: Candy KA n d I on pretty much all social

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Speaker 2: media platforms, Candy online, on YouTube, on Patreon, it's Candy too,

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Speaker 2: KA n d I.

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Speaker 3: And oh I always tell people to text me. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I got a little text family. Always shout

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Speaker 3: out I love it.

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Speaker 1: Text me.

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Speaker 3: The number is four zero four four five eight nine

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Speaker 3: four six four four zero four four five eight nine

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Speaker 3: four six four, Text me tell me what you thought

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Speaker 3: about this interview.

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Speaker 1: I love it.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you guys tapping with Candy. Thank you guys

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Speaker 2: so much, and Candy, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Thank yes.

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Speaker 2: All right, So today's fit, I am wearing it a

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Speaker 2: chocolate brown Ronnie Cobo dress. Absolutely love this dress. Earring's

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Speaker 2: Bible Teca Vanetta. My bracelet is by tom Ford and Cardier.

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Speaker 2: Wearing my signature jewelry, and my shoes are a gold

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Speaker 2: metallic pump by Docea and Gabana. Sweetie, today's conversation was

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Speaker 2: everything it really was. It was fun, it was unfiltered

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Speaker 2: and full of gems that only Candy could give.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love that she's.

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Speaker 2: Always showing that you can build an empire and still

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Speaker 2: be your authentic self every step of the way. I

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Speaker 2: really enjoyed having this conversation, and I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 2: it just as much as I did. In the meantime

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Speaker 2: in between time, keep it positive, sweeties, and if you

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Speaker 2: know someone that could use a little positivity, share this

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Speaker 2: podcast with them.

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Speaker 1: See you guys next time.