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Speaker 6: We've got Patrick noc Walker, Josh Rod Reganz, Chris Beam

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Speaker 3: Football all weekend long.

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Speaker 5: Put your put it on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're going now now we can now we

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Speaker 5: It's not. It's not. It's not April early April.

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, there it is. That's a Dallas Cowboys Star magazine.

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Speaker 6: Draft Guide, got a Ashton Gent article from Tommy Yar

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Speaker 6: issues on this show.

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Speaker 5: Got to be a science lab in there.

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Speaker 6: There is a science lab right there. And then we've

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Speaker 6: got some rankings and some scouting reports for all the

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Speaker 6: positions in the NFL draft.

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Speaker 5: And I got a bone to pick with you, man.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to tease the rankings a little bit,

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Speaker 5: but defensive tackle.

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Speaker 3: Bone to pick with me. Yeah, with my rankings. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: let me see what.

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Speaker 1: I put it.

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Speaker 3: Number four.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna tease a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Number four.

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Speaker 5: It's Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I should put him lower.

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Speaker 5: Oh good? In disrespect?

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Speaker 6: No, there's no disrespect there. I think it's a great

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Speaker 6: defensive tackle class.

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Speaker 5: And then Mason's I had number one with his broccoli haircut.

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Speaker 6: Again, his broccoli haircut is going to be awesome in

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Speaker 6: the NFL. Mason Graham number one, he's a top ten pick.

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Speaker 6: Derek Harmon number two, Kenneth Grant from Michigan number three.

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Speaker 6: Don't give them Walter Nolan number.

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Speaker 5: Four, don't give them a day.

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Speaker 6: I can give them all the give them the defensive

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Speaker 3: We're not out as magazines. With Mason Graham.

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Speaker 8: I was wondering where you put Alfred Collins. I'm seeing

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well dispectful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a that's a smidge low for me,

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Speaker 1: just a smidge.

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Speaker 3: Listen, what are you doing? Listen?

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Speaker 5: Because I had three days on your heels.

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Speaker 6: I watched one hundred and fifty prospect one hundred and

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Speaker 6: fifty prospects. I wrote one hundred and ten bios for

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Speaker 6: the draft magazine itself, and I've ranked four hundred and

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Speaker 6: fourteen players. And this magazine is due the week after

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Speaker 6: the so it's still early. Like these are no pro days,

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Speaker 6: no workouts, no thirty visits. This is all pure film,

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Speaker 6: is what this is. And so yeah, I'm gonna stand

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Speaker 6: on and Walter Nolan's number four in the defensive tackle

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Speaker 6: class and Alfred Collins is number seven. But I did

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Speaker 6: have a third round grade on Alfred Collins. He's a

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Speaker 6: great Okay, So I think it's a deep defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: Toe in the water in terms of defensive tackle.

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Speaker 5: Overall, there's a lot of good players in there. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: just the Kyle shousta Kurt for Draft magazine.

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Speaker 3: It's coming soon. Yeah, really excited. About it.

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Speaker 6: Tommy wrote a ton of features too. I want to

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Speaker 6: Here with the Cowboys, something they want to talk about

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Speaker 1: I'm Jilly.

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Speaker 6: Let's get into some news and notes outside of the

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Speaker 3: Magazine Draft Guy is available.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and they pre order their copy.

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Speaker 3: I think not yet.

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Speaker 1: It's getting close.

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Speaker 8: So the Cowboys they kind of slowed down their transactions.

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Speaker 8: And now we're talking about a couple of key names

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Speaker 8: Brandon Cook's returns to the New Orleans Saints. He's going

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Speaker 8: Moore was an offensive coordinator, so it'll be their first

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Speaker 8: time together. But Brandon Cooks is looking too, you know,

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Speaker 8: in New Orleans as he did in the Drew Brees era.

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Speaker 8: And then we talk about Cooper Rush. We were talking

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Speaker 8: about what was the backup quarterback situation gonna look like

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Speaker 8: in Dallas. Cooper Rush has signed on with the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 8: He will now back up former league MVP Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 8: I had some conversations yesterday within the building. Inside the building,

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Speaker 8: I should say, and it does not sound as if

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys are even remotely in on trying to re

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Speaker 8: sign Trey Lance. And we said that we talked about

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Speaker 8: this before the season expired, going into free agency. From

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Speaker 8: a player standpoint, I sat right here at this table

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Speaker 8: and I said, if I'm Trey Lance, I'm out on

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Speaker 8: there is anything there. Because opportunity wise, sure, if you

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Speaker 6: Teams are going to be lining up to science that

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Speaker 6: he lamb to a huge I mean sign Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: See Lambs on a teen screen. But the uh what

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Speaker 1: you did there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they're not lying.

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Speaker 8: Portray its opportunity. It's opportunity because this is a Cowboys

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys team that's likely going to use a draft

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Speaker 8: be a better opportunity for him to immediately become someone's

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that opportunity is in the doubts.

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Speaker 5: But to your point, I mean, it's not free agency

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Speaker 5: isn't over yet. No, it's not done. The transactions have

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Speaker 5: slowed down foreshore, but there are still quality QB free

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Speaker 8: In that conversation I had, they're in conversations with a

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Speaker 5: That's all right.

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Speaker 8: But this is the time of the stretch of free

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Speaker 8: agency where price points start to come down.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 8: Cowboys are waiting for the veteran price points to come

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Speaker 3: Good saying we're bargain shop.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look you're so bad. Look at it, though,

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Speaker 5: Sam Donald got paid three years, one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 5: to go to Seattle. Justin Fields two years forty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: We're in the Kyle Trask business. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: He got paid two point.

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Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying. But if you look at

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Speaker 5: these are not like necessarily the time that Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Kyler huntly businesses.

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Speaker 5: Okay, any of the names catching you guys at all?

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Speaker 5: Joe Flacco, No, Drew Locke absolutely, now, Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 8: Drew lock Stop, Desmond plot twist, Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Ritter would be interesting for me because it's still

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Speaker 6: a young guy, and I think he compares skills. That's

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Speaker 6: this in the past, you change your offense towards your quarterback.

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Speaker 6: When it was Dak Prescott to Cooper Rush. There was

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Speaker 6: a vast difference from Cooper Rush to Trey Lance. There

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Speaker 6: was a vast difference in what you could do from

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Speaker 3: A guy that compares the Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 6: And I think not that Desmond Ritter is Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 6: but we're talking about skill.

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Speaker 5: Sets, similar skill sets. Seas Johnson's also out, there's there's

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Speaker 5: a bridge that we can make, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Water bridge over.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean you're going to have to have a

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Speaker 8: he can't he's going to be right, he's going to

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Speaker 8: be developmental. So because he's going to be developmental, you

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Speaker 8: that dark Prescott is injury prone. However, over the past

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Speaker 3: So but that's why I hate this.

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Speaker 1: Barkin jumps off the page at me.

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Speaker 6: I'm okay with bargain shopping at certain Positionsack, but your

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Speaker 6: backup QB is an important one, and we've seen that

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Speaker 3: To be clear, Cooper Rush well nine and five as.

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Speaker 1: A starter of the Cowboys wouldn't got his money.

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Speaker 8: But to be clear, because I was in on Justin Fields,

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Speaker 8: he was one of the options I listed in the

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Speaker 8: open moortar not at that price.

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Speaker 5: Price tag that was twenty per year, No, thank two years.

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Speaker 1: Forty million max.

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Speaker 6: I mean Daniel Jones sid for seventeen to seven. I

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Speaker 6: mean he signed for nearly fifteen million dollars. And that's

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Speaker 8: But I do wonder because comparable to Cooper Rush's deal

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Speaker 1: I think two at twelve and a half. Yep, I

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Speaker 8: I might have done that, especially when you're talking about

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Speaker 8: a similar skill set to Dak Prescott. I think Jacoby

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Speaker 8: Brissett would have been been fine. Yeah, would have been fine,

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Speaker 8: But that twelve was a little too hard. Some of

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to spend a first or a second,

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Speaker 5: But that's where we're at, right, That's where we're at,

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Speaker 3: Get one current and that.

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Speaker 6: If we're talking about that, let's go to the handy

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Speaker 3: I think he was my top eight.

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Speaker 1: Still have ten picks after you made those trades.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he was my Cowboys fit. Oh yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Throw a little bit better.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, i'd probably put him at like eight or seven.

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Speaker 6: I think I would move it around a little bit,

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Speaker 5: Is that a guy that might be there in the fifth,

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Speaker 3: I don't think so.

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Speaker 6: No, I think he would probably go in the fourth,

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Speaker 6: and I could be wrong. These quarterbacks tend to go

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Speaker 6: I don't want to be sitting here in round six

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Speaker 3: I would rather get a guy like a.

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Speaker 8: Do you absolutely have viewers going before round five?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I think he's gone. I just you could

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Speaker 8: I agree, Will Howard. I agree with you, and really

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Speaker 6: I would rather if you want to trade your guys,

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Speaker 8: Into the fourth, get into the fourth, and then then

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Speaker 8: I'm gone with a fourth. I'm good if you handle

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Speaker 5: That was a fourth kind of worked out. Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: worked out great.

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Speaker 6: Joshua Dobbs was a fourth round pick the next year

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Speaker 3: He's still in the league as a backup quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's a lot of value you can

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Speaker 5: Not an exact science science.

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Speaker 8: That third would kill me, though, because you have it

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Speaker 6: If you're the third, if you're in the third, I

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Speaker 3: You just you just named it. You said running back one.

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Speaker 6: You're telling me you're going to draft a running back

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Speaker 3: No, that's not happening.

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Speaker 6: You've drafted a wide receiver in the in the third

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Speaker 6: out so far? Not as much as you wanted to.

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Speaker 1: There's some context.

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Speaker 8: There's some context there, sure, small program, that's okay.

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Speaker 6: You want to go draft a guy out of the

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Speaker 6: So yeah, I think you would find your value in

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Speaker 3: I would rather.

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Speaker 1: Would hurt though. Yeah, like I would be noticeably.

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Speaker 8: Angry, noticeably noticeably angry at a QB in the third round.

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Speaker 5: this episode. Yeah, Quaker Oaths, we love Quake Oath.

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Speaker 3: That's okay.

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Speaker 6: Well, we'll have bring out good have a new It's

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Speaker 6: it's the off season.

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Speaker 3: You get to see some guys go in, guys get out.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a great sponsor starting next week. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 5: The Quaker Man has his feed up chilling.

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Speaker 1: Sign with the Giants.

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Speaker 6: He went, He went with Dan Quinn Bigatuinn got him

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Speaker 6: him again.

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Speaker 3: Dan got it again. Uh.

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Speaker 6: By the way, quick correction, I didn't realize I misspoke

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Speaker 6: and I said Michigan instead of Memphis for Seth Hennigan.

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Speaker 6: Just so you know, I've watched every single college game

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Speaker 6: of Seth Hannigan before I do a podcast with the

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Speaker 6: American and so yeah, I've seen Sethn Memphis the same

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Speaker 6: we know. But yeah, I just wanted to make sure

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Speaker 6: that nobody in the chat that that thought I didn't

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Speaker 6: know where Seth is speaking well, speaking of the chat,

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Speaker 6: So I have a new segment, guys, I want to

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Speaker 6: talk about it. I have a favorite Comment Award to

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Speaker 6: give out, and this is after the first segment. So

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Speaker 6: I want the ogs, the ones that are tuning in live,

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Speaker 6: let's go top of the show. They're ready to rock.

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Speaker 6: Whether it's every Tuesday in the off season or every

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Speaker 6: Monday through Friday in season.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just give a quick.

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Speaker 6: Little bit of love to whoever has the best comment

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Speaker 6: that either makes me laugh or it's informative or it's

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Speaker 6: just downright wild. I don't even know. We'll figure it

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Speaker 6: out along the way. I'm gonna make up the rules

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Speaker 6: as we go. My favorite comment, you said the broccoli

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Speaker 6: haircut from Mason Graham in the first first segment of

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Speaker 6: the show. Yes, and I was like, yeah, broccoli is

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Speaker 6: gonna look good. Melvin wins our best comment of the day.

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Speaker 6: It made me chuckle.

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Speaker 3: He said, broccoli is just awesome. It is. That's it.

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Speaker 5: That's so other context.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, but that's gonna be something.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna do this at the beginning of the second

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Speaker 6: segment every show from here on, Allen, because I'm trying

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Speaker 6: to promote the YouTube channel. You guys are great, trying

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Speaker 6: to get every buddy going.

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Speaker 5: And someone else is stoked about Draft Guide season.

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Speaker 6: Draft Guide season. That's a great one, all Caps. That's

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Speaker 6: a great one like that one. Yeah, maybe that'll be

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Speaker 6: in the run running next week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah soon on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: That Yeah, watch live on YouTube, Twitter, Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 6: But the comment section is a lot of fun, and

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Speaker 6: you guys are doing a great job on there.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 6: I want to line them up, gentlemen, line them up.

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Speaker 6: Cowboys have a night game tonight. They're playing the Philadelphia

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Speaker 6: Eagles seven on NBC Sunday Night or what is it,

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Speaker 6: Tuesday Night football?

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Speaker 1: Tuesday night football in.

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Speaker 3: The middle of the off season.

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Speaker 1: That might be a thing Tuesday. It might be like

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Speaker 1: ten years from now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't wish that upon any of us.

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Speaker 8: Please, all right, I'll be retired by that'll be Oh yeah.

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Speaker 5: Man, you must be making the U Is that the

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Speaker 5: only day in the NFL is not taking place this Tuesday?

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Speaker 5: So far?

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Speaker 1: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Wasn't there Wednesday Monday?

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Speaker 3: Maybe there's been a Tuesday, there has been.

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Speaker 8: A they wait be scheduled from like a panning.

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Speaker 1: Probably, I think it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that was just a thing that might

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Speaker 8: have been a weather thing. Yeah, I think yeah, Monday

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Speaker 8: night football got pushed because of I think it was a.

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Buffalo or Baltimore one or the other something.

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Speaker 6: But either way that none of that matters at all.

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Speaker 6: So if the Cowboys had to play this afternoon, who

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Speaker 6: would be your starters at corner, linebacker, and wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna start at corner, Okay, caveat though, Yes, are

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Speaker 5: injuries existing?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Sara, if you are injured, right, darn it, because

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Speaker 6: we don't know when these guys are heard of. Back

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Speaker 6: Trayvon Jiggs, Trayvon Jags is a question mark whether he's

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Speaker 6: going to be available in training camp and beyond uh,

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Speaker 6: you've got of course to marve and overshown is going

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Speaker 6: to be out for the first parts of the season,

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Speaker 6: so yes, injuries do matter. I have three starting spots.

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Speaker 6: We have the two outside spots, in the nickel spot

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Speaker 6: at cornerback.

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Speaker 3: Patrick, I'll start with you. Are you starting in corner?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Travon Lion's not ready, So I'm going mean Deron Bland outside,

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Speaker 8: I'm going is he at nickel and I guess I'm

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Speaker 8: going Kayling Carson on the other on the other boundary.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing abou Kailn Carson though? Is he's back

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Speaker 5: from his shoulder surgery.

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Speaker 3: At the Yeah, so that's a borderline because we don't

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Speaker 3: know anything.

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Speaker 5: Can I let's just have some can I get funky?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, get funky.

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Speaker 1: Let's get funky.

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Speaker 8: So is he and Doron or your outside corners and

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Speaker 8: I'm dropping one ye Thomas down into the nickel.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, let's get funky.

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Speaker 3: That is getting funky. I mean, you signed him to

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Speaker 3: a re signed deal. He's your depth at safety.

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Speaker 1: But how to work him in?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he's physical, he's cerebral. Yeah, you're gonna have to

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Speaker 8: get funky, of course, no doubt.

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Speaker 5: Dron Bland is your outside on the opposite side a

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Speaker 5: f C championship game not permitting. Okay, let's exclude that.

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Speaker 5: Give me Kier on the outside.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: And and then if he is healthy, Klin Carson at

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Speaker 5: Nicol Okay.

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Speaker 3: But but if he's not, he's.

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Speaker 8: Not and Booth, Oh your pretty agent down there, notign yet?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Is he?

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Speaker 11: There? You go?

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Speaker 3: Okay, there you go. I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 6: I would do that three, I would do especially if

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Speaker 6: Carson is not available.

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Speaker 3: I would have Easy in the slot.

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Speaker 6: I'd have Elam on the outside, and I would have

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Speaker 6: Deron Blant on the outside as well.

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Speaker 1: So Jeremy answer your question. Yes, Jeremy was asking if

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Speaker 1: Bland healthy. Yes he is.

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Speaker 6: He is healthy currently, Yes, so good good stuff there.

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Speaker 6: Now moving to linebacker, and there's a reason I'm I'm.

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Speaker 3: Asking these questions.

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Speaker 5: Well we'll get to that at the.

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Speaker 3: End of the segment. But linebacker.

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Speaker 6: Two starters at linebacker? Who you going with? Marys le

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Speaker 6: and Nodmarvin Overshown.

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Speaker 1: No demo.

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Speaker 8: I know, I know you have love for Murray. I

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Speaker 8: want to see it. I'm going to Jackson, Samborne, Okay,

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Speaker 8: Sanborne and Mail. Yeah, I do have love for Kenneth Murray.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go. I'm going to go Leah Fallon

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Speaker 3: and Murray. I think a lot of same here.

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Speaker 6: I think they kind of shadow each other a little bit,

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Speaker 6: which I'm okay with because it is kind of a

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Speaker 6: break glass of in case of emergency type of deal

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Speaker 6: right now. But yeah, that's part of the problem is

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Speaker 6: it's break glass of in case of emergency.

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Speaker 3: But I feel confident with Murray starting.

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Speaker 5: I feel better with Murray than I do Sanborn at

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Speaker 5: this very moment.

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Speaker 6: I think Sanborne is a damn good rotation option, and

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Speaker 6: I think he's a guy that's going to play a lot.

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Speaker 5: He just may not be my starter, doesn't Sanborne looks.

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Speaker 8: Like he would knock the frame out of a Chevy

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Speaker 8: if he tackled it.

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Speaker 5: I don't doubt that. But does he not see more

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Speaker 5: of a special teams and rotational linebacker.

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Speaker 8: I think he and Murray will have their special teams shares, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: I probably. I think I'm fifty one forty nine Sanborne

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Speaker 8: to Murray. So it's not like I'm standing on the table.

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Speaker 6: For yeah, Murray and I see I would probably say

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Speaker 6: sixty five thirty.

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Speaker 8: I mean, even that's not standing on the table. It's

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Speaker 8: just you know, personal preference based upon what you saw

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Speaker 8: last from them, and what did you just say the

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Speaker 8: AFC Championship game notwithstanding, Well, that's what all.

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Speaker 3: That's a factor. So, by the way, Andrew Booth is

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Speaker 3: under contract next year?

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Speaker 1: Oh is he? Yeah? Yeah, he's Oh I'm thinking I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking AO, not know. I was thinking overall, Yeah, Booth,

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Speaker 1: is you said free agent?

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Speaker 3: I was like, no, I was thinking that a new edition.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking a something.

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Speaker 5: I was sitting ever thinking like I got update the website.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Michigan Memphis AO, Andrew Booth, Yeah, you figured out.

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Speaker 5: We're just trying here, fellas. Yeah, we're doing all right.

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Speaker 3: Now, what about the wide receiver position?

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Speaker 1: Mmm?

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Speaker 6: How about that moving forward wide receiver? Give me three

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Speaker 6: wide outs? We're going with eleven personnel, all right.

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Speaker 5: Let me go ceedee Lamb okay obviously maybe yeah easy?

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Speaker 5: Uh Jent Tolbert on the outside, Wow, okay. And then

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Speaker 5: for your slot receiver, give me Cavante Turpin mm hmm okay,

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Speaker 5: not bad. You can't pick any of the same players.

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Speaker 8: Good lord, tough crowd City, Lamb, and I do love

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Speaker 8: your choice. That's slot. I'm going Cavante. I think Cavante

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Speaker 8: needs to get more burned. I can't say that enough

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Speaker 8: times on this podcast and everywhere that I am.

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Speaker 1: You know, even if.

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Speaker 5: You don't feel great about him as like receiving a

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Speaker 5: catching just give him a slot down the middle, give

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Speaker 5: him something. I get the ball in his hands, however

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Speaker 5: you need to hand it off shovel pass. I don't

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Speaker 5: give a damn your.

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Speaker 1: W R two upsite Cede Lamb.

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Speaker 8: I like the strides from Tobert, I like the strides

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Speaker 8: from Brooks, but I swear to you you have.

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Speaker 1: To justify this fourth round pick.

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Speaker 8: So I'm going Jonathan Mingle because I saw Jonathan Mingle

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Speaker 8: with a backup quarterback. I saw Jonathan Mingle in McCarthy's

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Speaker 8: offense that didn't necessarily utilize him correctly, much the same

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Speaker 8: way it didn't utilize Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 3: It's a point of.

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Speaker 1: I want to see.

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Speaker 8: Jonathan Mingo with QB one, with Brian Schottenheimer and Clayton

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Speaker 8: Adams and Connor Riley cooking it up on offense, so

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Speaker 8: you can at least try to justify why the hell

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Speaker 8: you gave up a fourth round pick for this guy.

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Speaker 8: So that's me. I'm going Mingo. Well, not in dis order,

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Speaker 8: but Lamb Vonte in the slot and give me Mingo

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Speaker 8: opposite Lamb.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little surprised to hear you not say.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting Obert, I'm getting funky.

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Speaker 3: You are getting That's totally the case.

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Speaker 6: But I am surprised Tolbert Listen, Tolbert as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Three, I'm totally I.

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Speaker 8: Said he made he did. I said he. I need

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Speaker 8: that fourth round pick that was given away to be

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Speaker 8: a wide receiver.

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Speaker 11: Two.

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Speaker 1: I need it justified.

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Speaker 8: I need That's That's where I am with it. That's

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Speaker 8: why I'm choosing Mingo for Tobert because I need it justified.

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Speaker 8: That's it. It's I need it just it's funky.

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Speaker 3: But I'll roll.

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Speaker 5: I'll roll with the chunky.

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Speaker 6: No, no Paris Campbell, no Ryan Flinoy, Jalen Brooks.

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Speaker 8: Are as we have this conversation, just throwing it not

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Speaker 8: as we have this.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Nothing there, all right, bonus round? Okay, name of starting

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Speaker 6: running back right now? Who's your starter at tailback?

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Speaker 3: Between? Is it Javante Miles Sanders?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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Speaker 8: Well we hit the draft, you're asking me this question,

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Speaker 8: I'm going Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what would be the pick you needed.

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Speaker 6: Do you need a first round pick or a second

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Speaker 6: round pick utilized to jump Javonte Williams or can you

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Speaker 6: be yes?

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Speaker 1: Anybody?

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Speaker 5: Third?

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Speaker 1: Probably what a third? I don't know. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that this class is deep. I think a third.

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Speaker 5: If you've read the draft guide, you would know that.

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Speaker 1: It just came out.

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Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 1: It was literally your hands buddy yesterday, right. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that the third would do it immediately.

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Speaker 8: Right, So if you use a first or second round

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Speaker 8: pick on a running back, I think immediately you're thinking, oh, well,

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Speaker 8: this has to be your starter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, minute one.

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Speaker 8: If it's a third round pick, I think that it's

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Speaker 8: such Avante Williams situation that maybe the third round pick

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Speaker 8: can beat out as the season rolls along, but certainly,

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Speaker 8: come twenty twenty six, that's going to be your guy.

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Speaker 6: I like that, and I wouldn't be against that at all,

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Speaker 6: especially with this deep of a class in terms of

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Speaker 6: running back.

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Speaker 5: I think you're looking at here most of this page.

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Speaker 5: If you get any guys in the in the third,

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Speaker 5: I think you're fine.

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Speaker 6: Most of that most there's what fifty names on that

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Speaker 6: forty seven names?

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Speaker 3: That's a lot.

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Speaker 8: Hey, listen, you could you could make it a tar

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Speaker 8: heel backfield. Marion Hampton, Marian Hampton, with some Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 3: I'd be okay, that would be the second round pick.

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Speaker 3: That would be forty four if you get lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that would be a damn good backfield.

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Speaker 6: There's a chance you might see Jamir Gibbs happen with

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Speaker 6: Amaron Hampton. Where in that draft it was Bjean Robinson

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Speaker 6: is like the name that was the guy. He was

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Speaker 6: the can't miss running back prospect. He goes early and

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Speaker 6: Atlanta snags him in the top five picks or whatever

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Speaker 6: wherever they ended up selecting him in the top ten,

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Speaker 6: he's off the board. But Jamiir Gibbs was like that

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Speaker 6: second guy. It's he goes at twelve to the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 6: You could see that same thing happening this year. It's

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Speaker 6: gent as the can't miss prospect. He's going to go

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Speaker 6: in the top ten, top twelve picks, might go at twelve,

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Speaker 6: who knows where the situation, but you know, gent's that

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Speaker 6: guy Hampton's there's a.

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Speaker 3: Good chance he goes in the first and he slips

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Speaker 3: in there.

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Speaker 8: So I love the current conversation because a lot of

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Speaker 8: people are saying Miles Sanders. So I want to be

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Speaker 8: clear on something. Somebody said Miles Sanders. Hook whose said

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Speaker 8: Miles Sanders has something to prove. You're absolutely correct. I

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Speaker 8: believe he does. I feel there's a chip on the

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Speaker 8: shoulder there. But you know what, everybody in this building

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Speaker 8: has something to prove right now. Javonta Williams is also

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Speaker 8: one you deal he has something to prove as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but if we're talking about Hunter recent see Hunter Lofkey

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Speaker 8: has something produced, Vahn has something prove.

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Speaker 1: Everybody has something to prove.

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Speaker 8: So if you assume that everybody has something to prove

745
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Speaker 8: in that running backs room right now, then the question

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Speaker 8: becomes who more recently was more impactful on their respective team,

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Speaker 8: And for me, it's Devonte Williams.

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Speaker 1: He was, So that's that's.

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Speaker 6: He was far more impactful in Denver than Miles Sanders

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Speaker 6: was in Carolina last year. Now, over the course of

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Speaker 6: their career, Miles that's more impactful.

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Speaker 5: And no doubt, Spots.

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Speaker 1: Also been in the league longer than.

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Speaker 6: I've been in the league for six years compared to

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Speaker 6: four for Javonte Williams. So it's it's a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a difference. But I think when you look at

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Speaker 6: the the body of work between the two, there's respect

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Speaker 6: for both guys in the building. There's respect for them

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Speaker 6: to possibly come in and be the starter. They would

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Speaker 6: be either guy. It could be either guy. Does it

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Speaker 6: deter them from taking a running back in the first

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Speaker 6: round if it is Ashton Genty or the second round

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Speaker 6: if it's a Marion Hampton or one of these other

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Speaker 6: guys that they certainly do like, No, it does not

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Speaker 6: deter them from doing so. And I would anticipate still

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Speaker 6: seeing your running back early same season in this draft.

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Speaker 6: All right, when we come back, we've got a little

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Speaker 6: Let's talk about this off season and what grade would

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Speaker 6: I want to ask the question here in a minute,

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Speaker 6: what grade would you give the Cowboys off season? But

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Speaker 6: before we get to that, I want to answer some

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Speaker 6: phone calls. We got Larry and can say, Larry, you're

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Speaker 6: on Talking Cowboy.

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Speaker 3: What's going on? Cowboys?

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, good to here, get on the show, listen

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Speaker 13: to it all the time.

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Speaker 11: Love the show.

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Speaker 3: You're the man, Larry, Thank you? What you got?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 13: Well, I want to talk about first round running backs.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I know.

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of talk about it this year because

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Speaker 13: of the guys that are available in our spot. But

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Speaker 13: here's the thing. You don't get to pick this low

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Speaker 13: very often, or you certainly don't hope to right now.

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Speaker 13: There's a reason they call these certain positions money five positions. Okay,

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Speaker 13: you've got to stick to those.

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Speaker 11: You just have to.

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Speaker 13: And especially when it comes to running backs, linebackers and

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Speaker 13: even safeties, okay, but especially running backs. Look what we

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Speaker 13: did the last time. It's not how great your pick

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Speaker 13: is and how great the player is. Zeke was a

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Speaker 13: huge hit. Yeah, but when you get to the second contract,

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Speaker 13: that killed you. Unless you're getting Saquon, which you thought

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Speaker 13: you were, but you you know's there's only a few

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Speaker 13: of those guys that are successful through their second contract.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And that's the problem with running backs. It's not what

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Speaker 13: it does for your team now, it's what it does

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Speaker 13: for your team four or five years from now. Okay.

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Speaker 13: And this is about the difference between coaching and GMing.

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Speaker 13: When you're GMing, you're GMing for the future with an

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Speaker 13: eye on today. When you're coaching and you're coaching for

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Speaker 13: today with an eye on the future, it's opposite to

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Speaker 13: some degree.

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Speaker 3: No, I love it, Larry, great phone call.

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Speaker 6: You got a lot of insight there, and I agree

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Speaker 6: with part of what you're saying because I've always been

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Speaker 6: in that same mindset of running backs. It's not the

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Speaker 6: position of value in the first round. However, there are

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Speaker 6: a case by case basis. This is the NFL is

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Speaker 6: a case by case basis in its own right, and

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Speaker 6: the case only unfolds on one night out of the year.

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Speaker 3: And that's the first night of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 6: When you get on the clock at twelve, there's a

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Speaker 6: good chance you're not going to see Ashton gent there.

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Speaker 6: And the reason being is because he's a special prospect

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Speaker 6: who can immediately help your football team. And if you're

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Speaker 6: a football team that is in a certain position to

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Speaker 6: immediately be helped, then take.

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Speaker 5: A running back and you have the offensive line there

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Speaker 5: for him already.

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Speaker 6: You feel pretty good about your offensive line, you feel

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Speaker 6: good about your health outside of him, you have a quarterback.

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Speaker 6: All of these things add up, plus you add the

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Speaker 6: draft class itself. This draft class is riddled with red flags.

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Speaker 6: Playing it simple, there's about seven to eight, maybe seven

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Speaker 6: or eight prospects that are completely clean bills of health

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Speaker 6: at the early parts of this or completely clean scouting

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Speaker 6: reports of where they fit in a system, in an offense,

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Speaker 6: in a defense, wherever they may be. Ashton genty is

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Speaker 6: one of those guys. So, despite what you're saying, which

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Speaker 6: I completely agree with, second contracts are a nightmare for

890
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 6: some team at the running backs position because it only

891
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 6: happens every once in a while. You can get you

892
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 6: can strike gold with Saquon Barkley. I think Ezekiel Elliott

893
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 6: was a success for this organization, except you didn't get

894
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: to the mountaintop. That's just playing and simple. I mean,

895
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 6: he was the leading rusher in twenty sixteen, leading rusher

896
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen. He was a successful pick. Did he

897
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 6: pan out for a long period of time?

898
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 3: Not really. He kind of died off after that second contract.

899
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: So I'm normally of that mindset of stay away from

900
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,919
Speaker 6: running backs. This is not one of those occasions because

901
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 6: it's a case by case basis, and I think Ashton

902
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 6: Gent fits the bill in this draft class, in this situation,

903
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 6: and with a team that, of course Cowboys fans are

904
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 6: going to say right now, is still trying to win now.

905
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 6: They're still in that moment unless you're trying to rebuild,

906
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 6: unless you're trying to scrap this whole thing and start

907
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 6: it over.

908
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: I still think Ashton Gent would fill a void that

909
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 3: you need to win now.

910
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: And That's where I'm with it.

911
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 8: So first, let me just kudos to Larry because fantastic football,

912
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 8: high football like conversation that I would. I would watch

913
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 8: a game and drink some beer with Larry. Larry knowsball.

914
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: Larry.

915
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily agree with the second contract portion of it,

916
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 8: but I see his point.

917
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: Agree because I don't care.

918
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 8: I don't care about I don't want to talk about

919
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 8: second contracts coming off of seven and ten season, wherein

920
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 8: you just saw the Eagles get another Super Bowl in

921
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 8: this century, Like, I don't care, right, I will worry

922
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 8: about the second contract five years from now because if

923
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 8: it's a first round pick, you have a fifth year op.

924
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: Totally totally fair.

925
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: Half a decade from now, I'm worried about that. Half

926
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: a decade, I don't care.

927
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 8: The salary cap will be exponentially higher, Attrition will have happened,

928
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 8: your your salary cap structure. As far as who you

929
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 8: owe money to who you don't owe money to, that'll

930
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 8: be a different situation. You'll be having the post Dak

931
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 8: Prescott conversation at that point, you'll be not the post

932
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 8: ced Lamb conversation. But your offense will start to kind

933
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,959
Speaker 8: of reshape itself. The entire organization, as far as roster

934
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 8: is concerned, will look markedly different in half a decade

935
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 8: from now, Okay, so I don't care about that. What

936
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 8: I care about is this window that's rapidly closing, the

937
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 8: Dak Prescott window that's rapidly closing.

938
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: You have all those elements right.

939
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 8: You haven't re signed extended Mike Coad just yet. It

940
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 8: seems a full going conclusion. It's going to happen, but

941
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 8: it has. Deron Bland is coming up, Jake Ferguson, all

942
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 8: these things are coming up. What you need to do

943
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 8: is start winning games right now and not today, not

944
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 8: just regular season games, postseason game. Okay, So if an

945
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 8: Ashton Gent is there at number twelve, you don't think twice,

946
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 8: you pull the trigger. You don't hold reservation and say, well,

947
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 8: we're gonna have to pay this guy in half a

948
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 8: decade from now.

949
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me, right.

950
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 6: That's the thing is, there's a lot of critique around

951
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 6: the front office right now about pushing the can down

952
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 6: the road and trying to win five or six years

953
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 6: from now, and is trying to stay relevant. I don't

954
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 6: Ashton Gent would help you win right now. And that's

955
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 6: the difference now. So I'm not spending a first round

956
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 6: pick on any running back. Amarion Hampton is a great

957
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 6: running back. But if the Cowboys selected him at twelve,

958
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 6: I would have something to say about it. If he's

959
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 6: there at forty four, let's ride, let's get it done.

960
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 6: You know, that's the type of thing. But Ashton gent

961
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 6: is a clean bill of health, he's a great football player.

962
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 6: He's going to be an immediate hit here in Dallas.

963
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 6: And I think all of those things and all of

964
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 6: those sure things that you can find in the NFL draft,

965
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 6: which is hard to come by, right.

966
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: You do it. You draft good football players.

967
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: And I can see Isaiah mouthing through the Good Morning

968
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 6: Football set to us right now.

969
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: He's saying, scared money, don't make money.

970
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, And if you're not drafting a guy just because

971
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 6: of the possibility that his second contract is going to

972
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 6: be a failure, that's scared money.

973
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: Right it is.

974
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 8: And it's also it's kind of oxymoronic in the aspect

975
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 8: of if you draft a guy at any position at

976
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 8: any level one through seven in the draft because you

977
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 8: expect that they will excel. Okay, you expect that more

978
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 8: of a first round or second round or third round. Obviously,

979
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 8: of course you're spending a first round pick or second

980
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 8: round pick on a guy or third round pick. It's

981
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 8: because you're hoping that they ball out, right, So how

982
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 8: do you hope they ball out?

983
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: Wild ball play?

984
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 8: Also being concerned about them balling out and what that'll

985
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 8: cost you take five years from I don't care about you.

986
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 5: Gotta take the sure thing when it's there right now,

987
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 5: and most likely he won't be there. I don't want

988
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 5: to what a chance. There's a really good chance, all

989
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 5: sides of pointing to him not.

990
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 8: Being lit a second contract concern, But don't let that

991
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 8: in the way turn a thirty year drought into a

992
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 8: thirty five year drought exactly.

993
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 13: Now.

994
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 6: I love the phone call, Larry, really, it's a great call.

995
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 6: Everybody's entitled to their opinion one way or the other,

996
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,479
Speaker 6: and you had a great one there. All right, let's

997
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 6: go back out to Kansas. But this is Kansas City

998
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 6: where Brian is on the line. What's up Brian?

999
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 11: Good morning, gentlemen, Good morning, Bryan, doing great? Thank you. Hey.

1000
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 11: So I've got an unusual proposition. Just if the first

1001
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 11: couple of you know, the first eleven picks obviously don't

1002
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 11: go as plan because I think everybody thinks Mason Graham

1003
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 11: is going to go in that in that first group, right,

1004
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 11: because he's.

1005
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: The number one defensive tackle. Yeah.

1006
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 11: Yeah, So what happens for in your opinion? And then

1007
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 11: what do you think the Cowboys would do if he

1008
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 11: falls to twelve? No one, you just keave Osa twenty

1009
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 11: million a year. I don't know what happens because I

1010
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 11: think it's a weak draft class based on everything I've heard,

1011
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 11: meaning a lot of the media scouts have said, hey,

1012
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 11: I've only got thirteen or fourteen or fifteen first round picks.

1013
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 11: There's not going to be a ton of people beating

1014
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 11: your door down to trade back. What happens both in

1015
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 11: your opinion and what do you think the Cowboys are doing?

1016
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 11: I'll hang up and listen, thank you.

1017
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: Can I ask you a question real quick, Brian, before

1018
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 6: you hang out? Sure if in this scenario, is Ashton

1019
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 6: Gent on the board, No, we'll.

1020
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 11: Say Ashley, We'll just clean it up and say Gent's

1021
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 11: already been taken. But Graham is still sitting there in

1022
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 11: the milliking light.

1023
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 3: Ted McMillan here.

1024
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would have to say, I don't think Ted's

1025
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 11: going to go probably in the first ten. I think

1026
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 11: you would still be there.

1027
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 6: Okay, So now the conversation becomes space and Graham or Tet.

1028
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 3: McMillan, Brian, thank you for the call.

1029
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 6: I would pick one of those two guys and be

1030
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: totally fine with it in all sorts of it on

1031
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 6: my board right now as we sit, and I am

1032
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 6: a huge fan of Tat McMillan, let me first say

1033
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 6: that Mason Graham is higher on my board.

1034
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: He is a higher prospect grade wise on my board.

1035
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 6: So yes, if he falls, I'm gonna hurt by turning

1036
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 6: in the car. But I'm not gonna window dress my board,

1037
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 6: even if we've already paid O City. I'm gonna get

1038
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 6: Mason Graham to be a monster in the middle.

1039
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: Of your defense.

1040
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 5: But another Michigan pro I don't give.

1041
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: A flying where they went to school.

1042
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 6: I don't give a flying wolverine if they went to

1043
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 6: Michigan or not.

1044
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 3: Mason Graham would be the pick, and I'm I'm riding

1045
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: with it.

1046
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 5: He's which one, which one doesn't have the broccoli aircut.

1047
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 1: You're going You're.

1048
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 6: Oh, I thought you were talking about Michigan defensive tackles.

1049
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 6: I was like, why are you picking Grant there now?

1050
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 6: And that's the thing is either one of those guys

1051
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 6: would be totally fine. And if Tech McMillan is a

1052
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboy on whatever the second day of the draft

1053
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 6: is April twenty sixth or seventh or whatever it.

1054
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: Is, I'm I'm all in. That would be awesome.

1055
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 6: However, if that moment and that guy falls in, Mason Graham,

1056
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 6: I think you have a chance to shure up your

1057
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,959
Speaker 6: defense and really do something you haven't done in quite

1058
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 6: some time, and that's dominate the line of scrimmage from

1059
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 6: a running game standpoint and from an edge rusher standpoint,

1060
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 6: because it helps your linebackers, helps your ed rudgers, helps

1061
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 6: your secondary, which is a problem in its own right.

1062
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 6: I think you could show up your entire defense with

1063
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 6: one pick and that guy.

1064
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: That's fair.

1065
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 8: Or you know, if Gent is going give me Tech

1066
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 8: McMillan and then circle back in the second round and

1067
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 8: give me Alfred Collins.

1068
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 6: Which this is a deep he said. The draft class

1069
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 6: in general is not very great. It's a deep class

1070
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 6: and running back and defensive tackles. So you can do

1071
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 6: that and yeah, be totally fine.

1072
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 5: I would be very happy with them.

1073
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, So either one of those would be fine. But

1074
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 6: if it's Graham, I'm probably gonna I'm probably a stick

1075
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 6: and pick. Try not the window address the board.

1076
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: All right.

1077
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 6: When we teased going into this segment, I wanted to

1078
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 6: give a grade of the Cowboys offseason so far.

1079
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 3: We got to be kind of quick here so far.

1080
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: What would you give it a through.

1081
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 5: F Let me give it a strong C plus. You've

1082
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 5: added some depth and that's about keeping crucial components to

1083
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 5: your defense and special teams. Is great. You brought Osa back,

1084
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: you got Wandie back, you got Marquise Brian Anger, and

1085
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 5: you like the rotational signings of Solomon Thomas and Dante

1086
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: Fowler Junior. The running back situation is fine. It's not solved.

1087
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 6: It's like one of those like memes with the dog

1088
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 6: in the middle of the house. That's fine, as this

1089
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 6: is fine.

1090
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: That's the running back position.

1091
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: The linebacker spot is good, but not better than you

1092
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: were at the beginning of last season. I wish the

1093
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 5: wide receiver and quarterback situations were a little more shirt

1094
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 5: up heading into the draft, so you weren't so desperate

1095
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 5: for both of those positions. I think signing guys like

1096
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 5: Cooper cup signed, re signing a guy like Jordan Lewis

1097
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 5: would have kept you from the desperation that you now

1098
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 5: are facing with both of those positions, it would have

1099
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: lessened that. I just wish there was a way that

1100
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 5: we could have freed up some cap space before free agency.

1101
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: But oh, I guess.

1102
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 5: There's a way to make that happen.

1103
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 8: Solid C plus, well, no C will give the C.

1104
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 8: You found one and I found a C. It's an

1105
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 8: even C.

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Speaker 1: You did.

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Speaker 8: You did a thing in keeping osa O Diggizu the building. Fine,

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Speaker 8: you did not do a thing by letting Joy Lewis walk.

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Speaker 8: So the running backs room, you added some quality talent there,

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Speaker 8: especially proven talent in Miles Sanders, former Pro bowler. But

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Speaker 8: like you said, Josh, it's not solved a running back.

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Speaker 8: I like what you did at linebacker san Borne Murray.

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Speaker 8: I love what Marris is going to be, but the

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Speaker 8: questions are still who's going to start alongside Marrist cornerback?

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Speaker 8: You're you're real hoping on Elam. Yeah, you're really. That's

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Speaker 8: a lot of hope, and that's a nervous hope for me.

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Speaker 3: You know what I say about hope, it's not a strategy.

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Speaker 8: It's not it's not and it's a why I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: So just when you look at free agency. I think

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Speaker 8: as far as all things considered, all things considered, they

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Speaker 8: broke even I love that they were wildly more active

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Speaker 8: this time around than last year.

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Speaker 1: So they at least gave us that much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at this time last year we were talking.

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Speaker 8: Like, yeah, they at least gave us that much. They

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Speaker 8: have some free agent signings. They have at least one

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Speaker 8: top re signing, and they did. They struck some trades. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 8: however you feel about it. They made some moves, but

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Speaker 8: it's there's more work to be done, and I don't

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Speaker 8: just meet in the draft. I think that there's still

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Speaker 8: some free agency questions that have to be answered. What

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Speaker 8: do we talk about top of the show QB two. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: there's still some questions that need to be answered. I

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Speaker 8: land right out of Sea.

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Speaker 6: I want to first say they're not done yet. The

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Speaker 6: draft is coming up. You could still sign a couple

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Speaker 6: guys in free agency if you wanted to shore up

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Speaker 6: some of those questions. So still work to do, and

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Speaker 6: I think they'll they'll, they'll make some things happen overall.

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Speaker 6: But I'm gonna say a C minus here, and the

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Speaker 6: reason being is because I don't know. I think a

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Speaker 6: Sea would say you're a better or you're the same

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Speaker 6: football team as.

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Speaker 3: You were going into last year.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I can sit here and say

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Speaker 6: this is a football team that, without this draft class

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Speaker 6: and without them hitting right now, would be a better

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Speaker 6: football team.

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Speaker 3: I think there may be.

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Speaker 6: A slight bit behind the eight ball, a little bit

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Speaker 6: because you don't have de Marvey and you don't have

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Speaker 6: Treyvon Diggs.

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Speaker 3: You don't have all those guys.

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Speaker 6: Plus you lost Jordan Lewis, who's a leader on your defense.

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Speaker 6: That's a big, big loss that has not been replaced yet.

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Speaker 6: Cooper Rush gave you some security blanket behind Dak Prescott

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Speaker 6: at quarterback. You haven't replaced that yet. In your running

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Speaker 6: back room, you say it's fine. I think you're looking

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Speaker 6: for a fresh start from Williams and from Sanders, and

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Speaker 6: you don't really have a guide to rely on out.

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Speaker 3: Of those two. So you need a guy there.

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Speaker 6: And so I don't think if we're lining up week

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Speaker 6: one of twenty twenty five, yeah, twenty five, and we're

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Speaker 6: putting it up against week one of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 6: and we're looking at the compared and comparing the two rosters,

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Speaker 6: I don't think this is a.

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Speaker 3: Better football team right now.

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Speaker 6: Still a lot you can do, and you're gonna have

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00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 6: a draft class to try and address that. But as

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Speaker 6: we sit right now in the middle of March, I'm

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Speaker 6: giving them a C minus at the moment, and we'll

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Speaker 6: see what can happen. I like the Murray addition. I

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Speaker 6: think that's a solid crab. Dante Fowler is a solid

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Speaker 6: edition on the edge. They've done some things and they've

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Speaker 6: been more active because at this point last year I

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Speaker 6: would have given them a D minus or an F

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Speaker 6: at this point in time, but they're at a C minus.

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Speaker 3: Chance to get up to a B or get up

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Speaker 3: to a B minus, at.

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Speaker 1: Least they're not getting to them.

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Speaker 5: We have to go.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that one, all right. We got

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Speaker 3: to get aside.

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Speaker 6: Draft show coming up here in a little bit for

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Speaker 6: Patrick Noci Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Chrispiam in the back of

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Speaker 6: Kyle Yeoman saying so long from Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: Hey,