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Speaker 1: Via Around the NFL Podcast Won't Pick You Up from

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Speaker 1: the Airport. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jnsas and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by Room Phil Do with heroes Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Colleen Wolf, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys

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Speaker 1: and girl? Hey Daan, I agree. I hate picking up

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Speaker 1: people from the airport. I hate it. Yeah, it's my

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Speaker 1: least favorite thing in the entire world. Just well, that's

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Speaker 1: that's a big statement. But when when you're expected to

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Speaker 1: do certain things like that, um, you know, it's not

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Speaker 1: always fun. Well doesn't the anti up? If for anyone

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Speaker 1: a X, it is I gotta. I had to go

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Speaker 1: they couldn't hear me. And I was telling the police officer,

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Speaker 1: right over. He said, go around the entire airport again.

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Speaker 1: He didn't like my response, and I got a ticket

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Speaker 1: for being mouthy. This is a habit with you because

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Speaker 1: pulled you over. That's I forgot about that forgetting mouthy. Yeah, people,

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Speaker 1: we as a society, we've moved on in terms of

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Speaker 1: like who are who's the enemy? Now? The enemy is

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Speaker 1: isis or isol depending on who you speak with. But

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Speaker 1: Bin Lodden. None of this stuff happened before, you know,

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Speaker 1: driving around circles taking off your damn shoes. I think

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Speaker 1: it's still upset. I disagreed to me. The enemy is

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Speaker 1: parking in forcers in general. I mean, no one there.

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Speaker 1: The Los Angeles city is poorly running so many ways,

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Speaker 1: we sound missable by the way. It is the holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to our Civics podcast. Yes, Uh, it is December

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Speaker 1: the twenty second today. The holiday season is upon us,

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Speaker 1: so we should be in better spirits. Forget all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: in the world. Ultimately, this is the happy time of year.

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Speaker 1: And that's why later on in today's show, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: play our first time ever. We're gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: if it was like, oh, here's a twenty do iTunes

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Speaker 1: that you would like to metaphorically give someone. These are

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Speaker 1: I know Sydney is excited about it. Um, sweet girl,

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Speaker 1: made a move. On Tuesday, it became official that Steven Jackson,

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Speaker 1: the veteran running back who had his best years in St.

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Speaker 1: Louis and Uh seemed to be out of gas um

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta the past two years. Uh is now joining

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Speaker 1: the Patriots on a one year deal. Uh. So they

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Speaker 1: have added another body back there we had who's the

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Speaker 1: guy that had all the carries? Brendon Bolden was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be there. Joey Sefa had got some carries. Stephen

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Speaker 1: Jackson has a chance to work his way into this

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Speaker 1: rotation because there's not a lot there. Well, yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna He's gonna go out there and play out of

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Speaker 1: his mind and all of a sudden prove everybody wrong.

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Speaker 1: Mark once wrote that Bill Belichick could get Anne Hathaway

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Speaker 1: to rush for two yards in this office. Well anyone,

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, this is a good this is and

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Speaker 1: I and it's it to me. I understand that you know,

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Speaker 1: Belichick more than anyone, likes to pull these players that

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Speaker 1: at this point are ignored by thirty one other teams

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Speaker 1: and turned them into a January Cinderella tail. And maybe

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Speaker 1: that's what happens, because I don't doubt the Patriots at

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Speaker 1: this point for the powers that they have. But this,

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Speaker 1: to me remind remains something of a curious signing. Not

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of other free agents out there,

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Speaker 1: but is this the best player you could find? I

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Speaker 1: love it. I mean he can't. He has got no

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Speaker 1: lateral gilty left whatsoever. But neither does Joeys. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. Their roster is so bad right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be there mayor but there

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Speaker 1: I mean in terms of the running back position. Sorry, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you light up that running back versus any other team,

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Speaker 1: they might be the thirty second best running back room

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Speaker 1: is great story though he could be. And Jackson played

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Speaker 1: on some bad teams his entire career, and he carried

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Speaker 1: some awful rams teams. I think he'll be a short

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Speaker 1: yardage guy. And Balichick has talked about he likes bringing

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Speaker 1: there's a method today. He likes bringing in the the

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Speaker 1: older guys that are hungry for titles. He just thinks

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Speaker 1: that's He's also not a happy though. He's not afraid

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Speaker 1: to part ways with them if they're not going to

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Speaker 1: work out, And so I want to see it work.

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Speaker 1: Before you know, I start getting overly excited about Steven

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Speaker 1: Jackson's big old career. It's not at all shot, not

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Speaker 1: at all shot at West. I mean it's already becoming

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Speaker 1: like it's already being woven into New England's you know,

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Speaker 1: post season lore, and it's just like, all right, well,

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Speaker 1: let's see what happened. I hope it does. He came

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Speaker 1: in our newsroom and he looks like he Mark Steven

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Speaker 1: Jackson came in our news from a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago and looked like if you were like everyone in

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Speaker 1: the newsroom is going to take this guy on his

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Speaker 1: line of fight, he could take everyone out in about

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Speaker 1: four teens. Two guys. Two guys pass that test. He's

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Speaker 1: one and the other one is Chris Jenkins. When Chris

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Speaker 1: Jackson Jenkins came in and we see athletes all the time,

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Speaker 1: like so many famous people come through here, I what's

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Speaker 1: wrong with reminding everyone that we see players? Chris Jenkins

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Speaker 1: was a step apart from anyone else in terms of

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Speaker 1: his build. This I like, this, is there is there

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Speaker 1: any player that you guys have ever seen that stuck

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Speaker 1: out to me? Because for me, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: clear one, which is Kyle Brady. He was the scariest,

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Speaker 1: most imposing, sort of well built human I have ever

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Speaker 1: seen in my life. Kyle Brady was just like insane.

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Speaker 1: So for me, when I was covering the Eagles in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, m John Ronyon Um coming out of

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Speaker 1: a shower. And let me just tell you though, like

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Speaker 1: like the towels that everybody has, they looked like washcloths

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Speaker 1: on him. He was such a large human being. I

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Speaker 1: don't think oils should be in the locker I knew

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Speaker 1: this is going to start, but everybody, Okay, offshoot of Popeye.

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Speaker 1: By the way, though, Stephen Jackson, he did play with

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels when they were together with the Rams. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that's why that has to be. It's not

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Speaker 1: just Belichick. That's a huge reason why this happened. Um.

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Speaker 1: And in other running back news, the Chargers have placed

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Speaker 1: rookie Melvin Gordon on injured reserve. He suffered a knee

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Speaker 1: injury on Sunday against the Dolphins, ending which ending a

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Speaker 1: season that uh. You know, I think disappointment is a

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Speaker 1: good word to use. Uh. Troubling would be another good

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Speaker 1: word to use. Uh. And you know, also, let's let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. Spice Rack, who of course is Chris Westling's

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Speaker 1: uh Desert UH football analyst man Man Well, Greg calls

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Speaker 1: him my football. Yes, a man who uh staked his

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Speaker 1: reputation on Melvin Gordon being a breakout star in the

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Speaker 1: NFL immediately upon drafting West put his faith in the

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Speaker 1: spice Rack, and that faith was not rewarded. And I

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Speaker 1: We've talked about Spice Rack all season and Melvin Gordon,

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Speaker 1: so you know, to put a bow on it, we thought,

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Speaker 1: let's get spice Rack on the phone. Let's get you know,

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Speaker 1: connect with the desert and uh and see what spice

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Speaker 1: Rock has to say for himself. So he's gonna join

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Speaker 1: us right now. He is spice Rack. How's it going?

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Speaker 1: Boys and girls? This is funny because the first thing

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Speaker 1: you know, before I even you get to a question,

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Speaker 1: the first thing I want to know is was two things? Really?

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Speaker 1: One was I just lined up for ridicule. That's line.

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Speaker 1: I can deal with that. But the other thing is

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Speaker 1: were you actively rooting this season against Melvin Gordon? Against

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Speaker 1: athletes of the sports you love? Are you asking someone

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Speaker 1: specifically or the entire group? I'll be honest, I was

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Speaker 1: rooting against him the first time I saw him hesitate

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Speaker 1: to hit a hole in preseason. Mm hmmm. Well this

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Speaker 1: is just so you know, this is not Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is not a massacre of spice rack. Um, we want

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Speaker 1: the spice rack to remain on the wall. But we

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Speaker 1: just thought maybe to give you a forum here to

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Speaker 1: to maybe you know, cash out, to use some Vegas

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Speaker 1: parlance on spice rack or whether you're on Melvil Gordon

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Speaker 1: or whether you're gonna stay in and just say this

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: was a bad season. Down double down Vegas. Uh, well,

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Speaker 1: I'll double down because I have to. Uh, but here's

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Speaker 1: here's the deal with Melvin Gordon or projecting any player.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be wrong sometimes, and I have the courage.

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Speaker 1: I have these little notes in front of me right now.

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Speaker 1: I have that word circled courage. So you know, but no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna double down just because listen, it's possible he'll

545
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Speaker 1: be a bust. I have no problem distancing myself from

546
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Speaker 1: a Trent Richardson or something like that after a season.

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00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: But there's been play of running backs drafted highly that

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Speaker 1: their production wasn't there. They were a lot of hesitating.

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00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you you got on a list, look at

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Speaker 1: look at the production early with like a Garrison Hearst.

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Speaker 1: I don't care as much, Jane, even with you Williams

552
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: for a season struggled. You know, Levian Bello is at

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Speaker 1: three and a half yards of carry or something after this,

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Speaker 1: This sounds great, Brandon. I applaud your courage, but I

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00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: don't hear as much energy is Let me read a

556
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Speaker 1: few texts from from before the draft. He does things

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Speaker 1: that remind me of Jamal Charles, Chris Johnson, Dickerson, and

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Speaker 1: Terrell Davis. Maybe not in two I'm not running. No.

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Speaker 1: I love these because the one of the reasons why

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Speaker 1: I continue to turn to Spice Rack as one of

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,719
Speaker 1: my college football You know, it's because he's bold and

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00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to make a mistake, and he's just

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Speaker 1: saying what he sees and I trust his eyes. But

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Speaker 1: if the Dallas Mother Truck and Cowboys draft him seven,

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00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: he'll lead the NFL and rushing next year. Take it

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Speaker 1: to the bank, good night. I was bullish on Gordon

567
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: as as you could. I'm not getting away from that.

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Speaker 1: You know, all the everything that's that had happened in

569
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: with Wisconsin running backs in the past didn't scare me off.

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00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: I saw a guy with Jamal Charles stride. I saw

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00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: him with the home run potential that you crave and

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00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Can we talk about something else?

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00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Can we talk about Barry Larkins all right? Before before

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Speaker 1: we talk about Ricky Waters never getting any Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame consideration. I know why West by the Way was

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Speaker 1: rooting against Melvin Gordon. Now that I hear spice Rack.

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Speaker 1: He got the little bit of the southern twang. He's

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00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: got some great football acumen. History is worried. What's this thinking.

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Speaker 1: I'm the Svengali around here. I don't need Spendali. He's

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Speaker 1: worried that spice Racks coming in on his corner. That's

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Speaker 1: like when Gina Gershawn got pushed down the stairs and

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00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: show Girls. That's what's going on. I think that spice

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00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: Rack has a history in radio too, so he's a natural.

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Speaker 1: Whereas I'm not. Well, don't don't, don't let people know that.

585
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: Now the expectations rise, It's like, where is this guy's Polish?

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00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I thought he was a radio superstar. You know if

587
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: just a few days away, having bought a speck Oh

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00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: West and spice Rack is the answer to jessel Nick

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Speaker 1: and Rosenthal. I liked it. It'd be good to have

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00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: just something that was a backup alright, well, Spice Rack,

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00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: thank you for no no whoa you've betting rid of me.

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00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: I didn't get the listen, happy holidays? Wow? What else?

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Speaker 1: Do you got? What you gotta? All right? You got

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Speaker 1: you got twenty seconds, so you got time. I'm fighting

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00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: through this, alright, seventeen seconds. I feel very inadequate. Sidney,

596
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: you gotta hang up once he gets the alright, I

597
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: don't have any stories. Eight seconds. Tell us something embarrassing

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00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: about four three two one last word? Last word is this? Aunt?

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: Oh wow, your friendship with Spice Rack might be Ruinedrack, Well,

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00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: he feels terrible. I could tell it in his voice.

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Speaker 1: So let's bring it on the podcast and put it

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00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: on because he doubled down. But basically he wanted more

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00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: time there. But what we just needed to hear from him,

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Speaker 1: he says, I think maybe out of pride. He says, courage,

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00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: but pride he's gonna double down and say he will

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Speaker 1: bounce back. And he made some good points. Greg. There

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Speaker 1: have been other very good running backs that didn't start

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Speaker 1: their career well. And if you look at um Melvin

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Speaker 1: Gordon's own career, he had he's had fits where he

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Speaker 1: started slowly. Whether it was in high school, college or

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00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: the presson maybe well, maybe we start a new trend

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Speaker 1: on this show where we don't write people off after

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Speaker 1: one season. I think we've talked about that even downstairs

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Speaker 1: in let's see what Melvin Gordon does not Spice Rack to.

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Speaker 1: Is he gonna be upset that we had to cut

616
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Speaker 1: him off there? I think he's gonna be upset at

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Speaker 1: himself because he it sounded like he had about thirty

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00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: different topics he wanted to Did you think this was

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Speaker 1: like the Spice Rack podcast. No, he wanted to talk

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00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: about Nick van Exel and Barry Larkin and a lot

621
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati thing. Spice is a very Oh yeah, he

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00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: was great. I got a vibe that we liked him.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have him on again. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, always kind of hang up on him at

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Speaker 1: the end, jessicause a lot of so much to say that.

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Speaker 1: I think that could be his stick, will give him

627
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: a set finite amount of time to get in whatever

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Speaker 1: is on his mind. It sounds like a guy with

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Speaker 1: a lot on his mind. He does have a lot

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Speaker 1: on his mind. So the Spice Rack made is around

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Speaker 1: the NFL debut, So thank you, buddy, don't be angry

632
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: that we hung up on you and really with Sydney.

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00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: Ultimately that did it? Whoa, that's another another another unusually

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00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't have anything to do with it. Um. All right,

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00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: let's quickly Sydney, I apologize Christmas. UM, let's talk Monday

636
00:32:53,080 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: night football, all right, So Matthew Stafford can tinues a

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00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: strong close speaking of not writing people off, We're a

638
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about the lines getting rid

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Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford. Uh. Midway through the season, he threw

640
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: another uh gem on Monday Night against the UM New

641
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints, three touchdown passes a thirty five to seven

642
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: win over the Saints in the Superdome. UM, that is

643
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: a game that but you know, two teams that are

644
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: not going to the playoffs, but one team that looked

645
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot more competitive than the other. That was the

646
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: Lions of Saints. You know, made it look respectable at

647
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: the end. Greg, But ultimately, uh, and you are psyched up, Greg,

648
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: I know you love watching primetime games in New Orleans.

649
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: It makes you feel young again. Uh. Speaking of gentle Nick,

650
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: your old college roommate, and makes you think of you

651
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: and Jel's Nick and the quad like smoking cigarettes and going, oh,

652
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm hungover, Let's go get some food at the quad.

653
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: You know, uh, blown off class today, Let's play Golden

654
00:33:55,520 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: Eye on up with this material. I was gonna say,

655
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: if you see, if you knew two lane, it's like

656
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: no one lives on campus. That's for squares around campus, right,

657
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about forget the Mao plan.

658
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: This I was impressed with. I was impressed with the crowd,

659
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: but I don't like the Saints team at all. They're

660
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: entirely unlikable. And I tweeted out that you know, any

661
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 1: team that tries to trade for Sean Payton, they're gonna

662
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: get his lousy defense and his inability to fix defense

663
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: with it, and and people still saying, Mickey Loomis, you know,

664
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: he's the one picking the players. Sean Payton has a

665
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: lot of power and picking the players. He hires the staff,

666
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 1: and the defense has been bad really for five years straight.

667
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: So that's on Sean Payton. And this is a tough

668
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: team to watch. I mean, doesn't it feel like if

669
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: you know you're getting and you know, if you look

670
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,240
Speaker 1: at a coach like a player, you're getting Sean Payton.

671
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 1: Five years after his prime. I don't know. I don't

672
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: know if I would want. Would I give up some

673
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 1: type of massive bounty to get Sean Payton in two

674
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, I wouldn't. I think one team. I think

675
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: one team will we'll want that. I think that well,

676
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean maybe whether it's the Dolphins or someone else

677
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: out there. I think that Sean Payton and we may

678
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: think that, and I don't think that they're wrong. I

679
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: think Sean Payton I wouldn't want him for all the

680
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: stuff that Greg mentioned to can you build an entire

681
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,240
Speaker 1: team at this point? But this is an old boys network.

682
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: These guys recycled these coaches over and over look at

683
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: hat the people that got hired Jim, Tom Seul can

684
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: get a job. Then Sean Payton get another coaching job?

685
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: Why not? Oh? Absolutely? I don't fully expect him to

686
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: get another coach. I don't think he's out of the league,

687
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: but I think he's highly regarded even listen to and

688
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: Gruden loves everyone. I get it. I like Gruden this season,

689
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: but Gruden was gushing over Sean Payton's ability to have

690
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: to build a line and block. That's his coworker. I

691
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 1: mean that's his colleague, that was the guy who worked

692
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: with but but ten teams could fire their coaches or

693
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: be looking for coaches in a month, in two weeks,

694
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: so you know Peyton is going to be high up

695
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: on that list. No, I agree, And he's a good

696
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: I think he's a good offensive coach obviously. And the reality, though,

697
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: is that they've had a couple of disappointing seasons in

698
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: a row. He has two playoff wins since the Super Bowl,

699
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: which is five years ago now, uh, five or six

700
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: years ago now, he hasn't had a lot of success

701
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: and he's had some consistent problems over the ten years

702
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: in New Orleans that really the one exception was the

703
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl season, and that one was really based on

704
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: turnovers that they had on defense. I feel bad for

705
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: the fans there in New Orleans because at one point,

706
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys heard the story in

707
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: the broadcast, but somebody was playing jingle bells on some

708
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: type of instrument and Tariko goes, there's somebody playing jingle

709
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: bells while Drew Brees tries to audible. Yeah, they I

710
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: guess there wasn't much to be excited about there. But

711
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean they had a nice little run. Now they're

712
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: going to the other end of it, and it's you know,

713
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: it's part of it's part of the game. I guess

714
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: the biggest question, you know, just looking ahead with the

715
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: Saints is you know, where does Drew Brees after this season? West?

716
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Did you see? Uh? He again? He looked really good.

717
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: He's thirty six. Maybe he's not the same guy used

718
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: to be, but this is guy that probably stills a

719
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: couple of years in the tank where if he's in

720
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: a good setup, he could be a super Bowl level guy. Right.

721
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: We talk all the time about the SATs trading him,

722
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: and I just never I mean, I don't put any

723
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 1: stock in that. Teams don't trade franchise quarterbacks. And you

724
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: can point to his age, but we've seen multiple examples

725
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: of late thirties quarterbacks contending for the m v P

726
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: in the last few years. I think it's really interesting

727
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: if teams would try to go after them as a

728
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: package deal. Never never really been done before. But as

729
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: as we talked about last week, he's in the last

730
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: year of his contract. Jim called, well, though, speaking of

731
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: guys that are gonna get fired, that's all My point

732
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: is that he's had success. For instance, more recently been

733
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. I think there's a very good chance that

734
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Jim called one the next general manager wants to separate

735
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooter and Matthew Stafford. I mean, Stafford's playing

736
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: great since mid season. You could potentially keep Jim Bob

737
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: Cooter too. That's happened, but that's that, that puts that

738
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: in peril. But Jim Bob Cooter stock is through the

739
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: roof all of a sudden. Baffles me. But I mean

740
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: now it baffles me because of his name alone. That's true.

741
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: It's just I can't I don't even believe he's in

742
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: my world. But he is in my world. Now he

743
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: has potential to become the greatest couter of all time.

744
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: It's hard to do coutar rankings. Well, he's gonna he's

745
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: gonna bypass the mechanic from Dukes of Hand, Dukes of

746
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: Hazzard that was the seventies. Reference went over my head

747
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: a little bit, But it's not an excessively long list. No,

748
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 1: but he'd probably be ahead of the mechanics mechanic from

749
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: Dukes of Hazzards. So not achieved anything in like four

750
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: decades what was Mike severs friend's name and growing pains? Bonner, Oh, Boner,

751
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: are you just setting that up to anything else on

752
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: this game? No, but I have an update from poor

753
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: Spikes Reck just stream of conscious on text. The first

754
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: one is just as simple. I choked kind of, but

755
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: it all happened so fast. I didn't know the other folks.

756
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: I should have stuck with Gordon in the general running back.

757
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna love you. No, because it's so relatable.

758
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: I thought he didn't feels badly. He's wrong. He's one

759
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: of the best guests we've ever had on this Show's

760
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: there's something inherently human about the desert dwelling spice Rack.

761
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: He's great. I think we should have him back. All right,

762
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 1: we will. Maybe we'll see what happens Nevil Gordon depends

763
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: if he does anything in his career. My goal is

764
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: to get you and spice Rack in a bar together

765
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: at some point, just so you can hang out. Yeah,

766
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: I mean I would do that. I'd have a drink

767
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: with him. Not Greg that you're saying all of us,

768
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: all five of us, that you would have a drink

769
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: with him. I don't know if I would. I don't

770
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: like strangers. I've kind of yeah, well I would, Yeah,

771
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm just I've kind of hit a place in my

772
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: life where I'm just done meeting people. And if I

773
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: end up getting to know people through work, just like

774
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: Colleen is a perfect example. Colleen and I got to

775
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: know each other in the last year or so. Uh,

776
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: and it's and it's nice that it happened that way.

777
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: But it's not like I'm going to go out and

778
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: meet someone at a bar and becomes friends with him.

779
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: But you're here for decades more. I know I'm done. Like,

780
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: are you set with your friends? I don't need any

781
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: new personalities in your life? Got a circle? Well, are

782
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: you going to continue to accumulate companions? Well, I didn't

783
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: know you guys a few years ago. That's before I

784
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: cut off. The line starts here. Everybody, all right, I'm

785
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: not ready to go there yet, but I applaud your

786
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: your very tight friendship boundaries. Finally, let's uh, let's now.

787
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: It is the holiday season, after all, Sydney. For some

788
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: of us, can we well everyone right? For everyone? Well? Well,

789
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: I guess Greg, you're Jewish, for instance, But you know

790
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: Hanaka recently passed. Still, the holiday season where I was going.

791
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: But when we celebrate Christmas, I've never celebrated any Jewish holidays,

792
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: so I'm Jewish by you know, cultural heritage for instance.

793
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: You there's a history there, but there was certainly no

794
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: religion or any temple. How do you feel about we

795
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: always did Christmas because it's a better it's a better format.

796
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: As a kid. We we discussed and we're like we

797
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: wanted all in one day. The Jews kind of figured

798
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: it out. I gotta say, because now that's a very

799
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: popular sentiment that you have that I'm not religious religious,

800
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: but culturally I'm a Jew, which just means you don't

801
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: have to go to like church or synagogue. You got

802
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: out of all like the hard stuff with religion, but

803
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: you are retaining your the essence of being a Jewish man,

804
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: right like I like, you know, I don't like manual

805
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: labor and yeah, like Woody Allen movies. You know, I

806
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: wasn't going there. I wasn't saying that. But I'm just

807
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: in the sense that there's a historical connection. You know,

808
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: my dad was born in Nazi Germany, so you feel

809
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: you do feel some connection through some history. But then

810
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: what's your dead name? Tom? We need a little Tom

811
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Rosenthal pod talking about for the nazcast. I was thinking

812
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: about different maybe Jewish heritage pod. It's like called the

813
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Nazi podcast. Can I get some holiday music? All right?

814
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: So what we did we we handed out or it

815
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: passed the hat around and we each drew a name,

816
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: and uh, and the person you got when we don't

817
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: know who got who will now offer up a gift.

818
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: And usually I start with Mark, but I'm gonna mix

819
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: it up because we did it is you know it's

820
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 1: a mix up, So I'm gonna start with Collie. First

821
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: of all, who did you get in secret Santa? Okay?

822
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: I got Greg? Right, So you can't really put a

823
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: price on it. Um. So it's uh, you're the boss,

824
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 1: you sit on the throne of ease, you have many rings, um,

825
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: so here you go. I want you to open this,

826
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: okay opening now. It's so it's a it's a golden

827
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: scepter um because I just feel like it goes perfectly

828
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: with throne and you can wield it in whatever I want.

829
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: But you know, it has some some magical powers and things,

830
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: the physical manifestation of the easy place he has in life. Yes,

831
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: he needs a little bit more of it. I feel

832
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: like that would be That's such a great present. It

833
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: would be fun at home, was just watching TV sort

834
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: of letting them know I'm the boss there too, exactly

835
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: get quite I get even less respect there. So it

836
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: would just be a nice thing to walk around with.

837
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: It's a nice throne of these meets the boss together

838
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: with this gift like that. How about well, I guess

839
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: this We're just meant to be this year, Colleen, I

840
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: pulled I pulled you list and I went a little

841
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: different route. I don't know if you're familiar with net jets.

842
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,240
Speaker 1: Net Jets is it's a popular fractional ownership of private planes.

843
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: It's a company. You don't have to buy the whole

844
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: private plane, but you can just use the plane whenever

845
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: you want. And I thought I would get you a

846
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: year subscription to that. I don't know how that works

847
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: exactly how but you're gonna get a year subscription to that,

848
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna use it for good. You're going to

849
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: be part of the group that fires Chip Kelly and

850
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: you can use the plane, I'm sorry. You can use

851
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: the plane to to drop him off in Oregon. You

852
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: can put Pat Shermer wherever he needs to be. You

853
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: gotta get rid of right, it's a separate fight, you

854
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Riley Cooper, some southern rock show, never to return to

855
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Philadelphia again. And then you can use the plane to

856
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: go around the country and find, you know, the best

857
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,839
Speaker 1: man or woman to run this Eagles franchise because they

858
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: need a new leader. And then on top of that,

859
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: you can use the jet to get home for Christmas,

860
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: and you and your husband can usband. You can see

861
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: each other a lot more because you guys are separated

862
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: by a nod with him. Yeah, money was no objects.

863
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I've realized that. Really, Greg just just just exposed how

864
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: much more he makes than the rest of us. We've

865
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: been suspecting that. And yeah, well that's very gets to

866
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 1: fire people be with the man of her dream people. Yeah,

867
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: it's really a present for Gonzo Johns and Philly dot

868
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: Com of course, um my gift. I drew Mark Cessler.

869
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: I was happy because Marks a very close friend of

870
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: mine and has been for several years now. He's in

871
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: the circle. So what I did, First of all, I

872
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: framed Ben Roethlisberger and connected him via irrefutable DNA evidence

873
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: to the Tate Libianca murders a Bianca murders that had

874
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: been initially and correctly attributed to the work of, of course,

875
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: your favorite Charles Manson and his disciples. Relatedly, I have

876
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: arranged for the early release of Leslie van Houghton, you

877
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: once wrote letters to in prison. Um so having her

878
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: release so the two of you may have a platonic

879
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: lunch date at the Libreya it's her pits on January twelve,

880
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: and um, I will personally prepare your meal no meat,

881
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: of course, buddy. Finally, I have arranged for Johnny Manziel

882
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: to move into your back back guest home in the

883
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: off season so that you can personally ensure proper conduct,

884
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: conduct and moral integrity. Christmas, I think you checked. You

885
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: checked the box, and I'm stunned by some of the

886
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 1: earlier ones. Um, but good riddance, big Ben, have a

887
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: nice time with it. Pittsburgh, Landry Jones. There's no statute

888
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: of limitations on murder. Uh, that's right, Tate, Tate Lo

889
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 1: Bianca murders tied to MAT's you've gone above and Beyonce,

890
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 1: how do you feel about Johnny Manzel babysitting Luke and

891
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: Colton your son's I could be good for him. Okay,

892
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to, you know, clear some things out

893
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: of my house. But no bars for you either, buddy. Yeah,

894
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: well that's not so much a gift on your part,

895
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: But I think I know that's a test. All right.

896
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: Who's up next? Less? Yeah? I Dan, I know you. Yes,

897
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,959
Speaker 1: you're going out of town. I believe you're flying tomorrow Texas. Yes,

898
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: I know you'll be away from your friends and your

899
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: podcast family, and I wanted to give you a proper

900
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: send off. I have arranged for kind of a heathen

901
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: element to show up at the airport and send you

902
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: off with Christmas carols. But these heathens are all gonna

903
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: be dre stub stacked out in their favorite Star Wars costumes.

904
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: Oh wow, all right, I like that. So as soon

905
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: as these heathens get really get into the Christmas music,

906
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: I've arranged for the j E. T. S Fight song

907
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: to break out and a bunch of Jets fans wearing

908
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick Jersey to take these heathens out with steel chairs

909
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 1: and then sing the Wow. What a setup. So this

910
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 1: one involves actual physical assault on Star Wars Star Wars

911
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: cause players. Yes, I know that's on your Christmas list.

912
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: That definitely took the most work of all these presents.

913
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: I mean that I could take months of planning. Took

914
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: millions of dollars. That's just money. It takes a lot

915
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: of planning. It's not easy to frame an iconic quarterback

916
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: for capital murder, but that happened before he was born. West.

917
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm truly blessed to have you as a friend. Thank

918
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: you very much. And finally marks us. I don't know

919
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: how they get past Elliot secured us, but that's a

920
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: good job on you. Chairs. Yes, I drew West and

921
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: I had to. You know, there were some details here,

922
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 1: so I had to write this up unfortunately. But here's

923
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: what I'm buying West. It is a portal to Tybee Island.

924
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: Here's how it works. When Shadowy League figures strong armed

925
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: West into moving to Los Angeles, he was forced to

926
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: say goodbye to his sleepy, slash boozy existence on Queen

927
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: Tybee Island off the Georgian coast. Instead of staring out

928
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: over the sea, now he's stuck watching zombie out traffic

929
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: on the four oh five. Not a good place for

930
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: our friend. My secret Santa gift. I've coordinated with engineers

931
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: in the states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama,

932
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: and Georgia. Here's what they're doing. My team of two

933
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four architects and more than two hundred

934
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: and twenty five thousand hard hats have agreed to break

935
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: ground on a high speed underground tunnel that will cross

936
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: the continental US from Marina del Rey to Tybee using

937
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: quantum mechanics, in nuclear fuel, a combination of both. We've

938
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: designed a laser speed beer car that will take West

939
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: from southern California to his home island in two hours,

940
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: in twelve minutes. We're calling this tram system the Old Mouser.

941
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: All construction costs will be covered by the National Football

942
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: League's Commuter Assistance Fund. As a side note, to help

943
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: fill the coffers of the League's Commuter Assistant Fund, we're

944
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: disbanding the Baltimore Ravens effective February one, two thousand sixteen.

945
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, West. I couldn't even think of that gift

946
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: for myself. Now, you don't know anybody can think of

947
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: that besides Mark above and beyond. And I might just

948
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 1: use that portal every single night to go to Huckapoose

949
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: for And I do like also that you did manage

950
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: mark to give a gift for yourself in there by

951
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: disbanding the Ravens a gift for anyone that can. It

952
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: was about the history of the NFL. Brilliant. Well there

953
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: you go. That is, you know what a Christmas and

954
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: and just for you, just so you know, Sydney, I

955
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: do have a gift for you. I am lifting the

956
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: four month ban on Disneyland that I hadn't you know

957
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: installed initially. That's out. Now you can go as much

958
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: as you want. Wow, Dan's wildly restrictive personal advice for

959
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: you is now lifted. What a guy. You know. I'm

960
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: actually blocked out the last two weeks, so I'll have

961
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: to catch up on that in January. There you go,

962
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: so that every I think it's a happy holiday and

963
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas for everyone. Uh, great gifts all around. And um,

964
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: we will be back by the way, I was about

965
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: to say Merry Christmas to everyone, and we'll see you

966
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: on the other side. But it is a little bit

967
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: of different schedule this week with the holidays, so we

968
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow Wednesday with another addition of the

969
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast and we will preview all of

970
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: the week sixteen games to come. So make sure you

971
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: check in tomorrow or maybe it's maybe something you you

972
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: listen to this show either today or tomorrow and then

973
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: tomorrow's show. Maybe if you're you're driving to the in

974
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: laws or relatives or whatever is going on during Christmas. Yeah,

975
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: that's when you plug in Wednesday show. I like that

976
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 1: fits perfectly. Yeah, so that's it. Thank you very much

977
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: for everyone listening. Uh, we will be back like I said, Wednesday.

978
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: Until then. This is Dan Hansens signing off for Quiet Storm,

979
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: the Mailman, Connie Fox, the Boss, and I Seed Behind

980
00:51:39,000 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: the Glass, Behind the Glass, Behind the Glass Wednesday. What's up?

981
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: This is the RB podcast. Yes man, we had Tonio

982
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: Brown on the day. We talked from Odell Backham from

983
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: from some Rivalries. Yeah, great show today. It makes you

984
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: check it out at NFL dot com, Backslash Podcast i Tunes.

985
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: Is that what's up? Okay? All of that? All that? Man,

986
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: This Go Fust episode out. We keep getting better and better.

987
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Shout out to the team