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Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, January sixteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're believers

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Speaker 1: in the power of Love. To me your man nam

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Speaker 1: G Marcus Grant, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones,

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Speaker 1: and I guess let's just start with the respective weekends. Florio,

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Speaker 1: I assume yours ended on a better note than lq's.

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Speaker 1: How was your weekend?

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Speaker 2: My weekend was good. It was a lot of anticipation

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Speaker 2: for Monday. Time moves slowest when the hours before your

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Speaker 2: team plays a playoff game. I'm convinced, But now I'm

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Speaker 2: sitting here today wondering do I splurge and go crazy

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Speaker 2: and try to fly to Buffalo this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Whoooo? Lakwan, I know you have no such issues of

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Speaker 1: warning to go on a road for a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: But the overall, how are you feeling? How's rams Nation

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Speaker 1: feeling right now?

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Speaker 3: I think we're okay because I feel like a lot

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Speaker 3: of people understand like we weren't supposed to be there.

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Speaker 3: We were the rebuild team and we didn't have a shot,

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Speaker 3: and the whole storyline versus golf and stuff like but

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Speaker 3: overall me personally, I'm okay. You know, I was standing

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Speaker 3: up for like thirty minutes of that game, but.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But we almost got them. But you know, I'm happy

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Speaker 3: for golf.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's sort of the thing, right where

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Speaker 1: For Rams fans, yeah, I'm sure obviously you're disappointed when

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Speaker 1: your team loses, but you guys understood you're playing with

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Speaker 1: house money a little bit. They weren't supposed to be there,

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Speaker 1: So Wiley lost is disappointing. It is not soul crushing.

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Speaker 1: You could be Cowboys or Eagles fans today right out there.

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Speaker 1: It's tough out there, right, I mean, they had expectations,

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Speaker 1: they had hope. There was a believe that one of

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Speaker 1: those teams was supposed to get to the NFC Championship game,

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Speaker 1: and both of them not only lost in the first round,

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Speaker 1: but lost badly in the first So I sit here

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Speaker 1: and you know, enjoying the fact that I didn't have

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Speaker 1: to stress over my team this week. But you know

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Speaker 1: this hit you. This weekend will be a different story,

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Speaker 1: especially because the Packers are playing really, really well. So

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Speaker 1: Niners and Packers have had some really interesting playoff games.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what happens coming up this Saturday, we will

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Speaker 1: dive into Super Wildcard weekend and to kind of go

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Speaker 1: over some of the things we saw and maybe what

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Speaker 1: this means potentially for next year if anything. Also, we

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Speaker 1: talk about the players that we can't quit, the guys

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Speaker 1: to our expectations, but that we're not ready to give

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Speaker 1: up on heading into twenty twenty four. But let's start

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Speaker 1: with a couple of news items. One that actually had here.

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Speaker 1: I thought we're going to get to it last week,

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Speaker 1: but then the Belichick news happened, and Pete Carroll happened,

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Speaker 1: and so it kind had to throw that out the

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Speaker 1: way and get to those other things. But the Bears

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Speaker 1: of stuff swirling around them because they do have the

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick courtesy of the Carolina Panthers from

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Speaker 1: the DJ Moore trey that landed Bryce Young in Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Since the season has ended, the Bears have fired offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator Luke Getzi, a handful of offensive assistants, Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: the former Heisman Trophy. I guess that former once you

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Speaker 1: win a Heisman Trophy or always a Heisman Trophy waiting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: four NFL Draft, And then news that came out on

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Speaker 1: Monday that the Bears have interviewed Greg Roman, former offensive

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Speaker 1: does this mean that they're going to maybe build around Justin?

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Speaker 1: Is he gone? What are you sort of trying to

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Speaker 2: I think firing the OC is an indication that they, look,

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Speaker 2: this is the murkiest situation I think maybe ever, because

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Speaker 2: and you're like, are the Bears really gonna do this again?

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Speaker 2: Where they draft a quarterback with a lame duck head coach,

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Speaker 2: in that purgatory cycle. Greg Roman is the first indication

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Speaker 2: that maybe they are serious about keeping Justin Fields. I

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Speaker 2: think they're talking to him to see what the plan

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go into this and be like,

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Speaker 2: what does it look like if we build around Justin Fields,

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Speaker 2: of we reset the rookie clock. This is a player

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Speaker 2: that has been hyped up as a generational talent for

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Speaker 2: years already. The Greg Roman thing maybe leads towards Justin Fields. Please,

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Speaker 2: for DJ mores sake, do not hire Greg Roman. But

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Speaker 2: besides that, I still am of the thinking that Caleb Williams,

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Speaker 1: How about you? Okay? I mean do you think do

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Speaker 1: you think this is a move to go get Caleb

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Speaker 3: I mean they have until May really to figure out

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Speaker 3: with this fifth year option, but this does show indication

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Speaker 3: but why go into not sticking with a guy that

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Speaker 3: and this old line is terrible. I would hate to

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Speaker 3: I just don't feel as though that'd be great for

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Speaker 3: I think you do stick with justin fields if you

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Speaker 3: you know, they should stick with Fields. He has tons

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Speaker 3: showing flashes. There's just other variables out there. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many variables here where they need

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Speaker 1: I do wonder if it depends on who they ultimately

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Speaker 1: And I reserve judgment on Todd Mounkin after just one season.

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Speaker 1: that's just a way of saying that. Look justin Fields

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Speaker 1: he's the guy that can maybe move them move fields along.

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Speaker 1: If there's another offensive coordinator there though, who has a

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Speaker 1: be that they go to Caleb Williams. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: I have kind of gone round and round on this

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Speaker 1: This is just really yo. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: want all like we should just text Adam Rank, get

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Speaker 2: Him he thinks they're trading Fields.

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Speaker 1: I think he believes that too. And I'm not even

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna ask Rank a question. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna say, Bears go, and we all know Adam Rank

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Speaker 1: All jokes aside, we love Rank. It is really a

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Speaker 1: big question about what is going to happen here with

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Speaker 2: It's the defining decision of Ryan Pohle's career as the

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Speaker 2: Bears GM. I would say, because he's not the one

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Speaker 2: It kind of looked like he was setting him up

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Speaker 2: reason why I kind of think he's gonna want his

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Speaker 2: enough out of Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I know that's the argument sort

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Speaker 1: figure out how to get him to that next level.

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Speaker 1: And it's one thing to do it when you have

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Speaker 2: Ben's also changed once people like, right now, it's like

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Speaker 2: he's our guy. We drafted this kid. Once he's getting

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Speaker 2: that forty million a year, people are gonna be like,

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Speaker 2: we want results, right, we need.

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Speaker 1: Results, yeah said, and especially especially if Caleb Williams goes

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Speaker 1: somewhere else and has success. You know, look, if Caleb

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Speaker 1: it's going to be headaches in Chicago, to say the

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Speaker 1: this tweet came across from Tom Pelsero. The Saints a

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Speaker 1: fire offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael. So there's a there's an

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Speaker 2: Like there's no the best week of playoff playoff football

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Speaker 1: It probably is, right, but like it doesn't have like

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Speaker 1: quick rundown of the scores, just in case somehow you

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Speaker 1: But what I thought about is I was sort of

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Speaker 3: I mean you start to look at more opportunity in

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Speaker 3: That's where all my fantasy points are gonna matter and

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Speaker 3: let me know what you're doing, you know, weeks one

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Speaker 1: Okay. So then along those lines, Florial, let's say you

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Speaker 2: At all, not a whole lot at all. I think

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Speaker 2: people over hype playoff games. I agree with what LQ said.

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Speaker 1: But if you have a.

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Speaker 2: Random big stat game and it didn't really show over

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Speaker 1: was Nah, you know what I mean, he was Joe Flacco, right.

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Speaker 1: There was nothing spectator, wasn't he wasn't awful, but it

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Speaker 1: But I do have to say that see Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. But I think whereas maybe a

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Speaker 3: I actually agree. I mean it's been a rough season

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Speaker 2: I think with Philly that they have to figure their

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Speaker 3: Like, I think he's the guy. They just have other

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think with you mentioned Tony Pollard

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Speaker 3: I think he's the guy man. I think AJ Dillon's out,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll sort of see. But it was nice

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00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,359
Speaker 1: to see him late in the season because going back

434
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 1: to the end of the regular season, four straight games

435
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,400
Speaker 1: with over one hundred rushing yards, finally had the touchdowns

436
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 1: kind of come through in the World Card playoff game.

437
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it was him getting healthy. He just really struggled

438
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 1: with his health in the early part of the season,

439
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 1: and maybe this was him getting back to where he was,

440
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: you say, last season before he got hurt. I we'll see,

441
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 1: but it was nice to see it happen. You know,

442
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,159
Speaker 1: you're right, maybe he does still end up as kind

443
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 1: of a high end mid RB two next year. In

444
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 1: the past, that's fine, we'll say so. I just I

445
00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: just still think think back about what could have been

446
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: all these years if he wasn't, you know, sharing with

447
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams, then aj Dillon, if we just had maximum

448
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, what it could have been there? I don't know. Also,

449
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you this Floria, as the resident Bills

450
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: fan here, where are Stefan Diggs. I mean I don't

451
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: mean that literally because he had some catches or whatever.

452
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 1: But we haven't seen a really big Stephan Diggs team

453
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:47,359
Speaker 1: in a long time.

454
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: He's on the Steelers sideline drinking their water. That's yesterday

455
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: was Uh it was because team high nine targets, seven

456
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: catches fifty two yards. It kind of like they're using

457
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: him similar to the way the Rams were using Cooper Cup,

458
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: which it's like, we're not gonna throw to you all

459
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: game long, We're gonna use everyone else, but when we

460
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 2: need a big play, you're the guy we go to.

461
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 2: But three straight weeks before this one, Diggs was opened

462
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: downfield and they just didn't connect. They tried this past week.

463
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: It got broken up. It was defended really well. They

464
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: keep saying every week like we are going to hit

465
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Speaker 2: on one of these big plays eventually. So fingers crossed Diggs,

466
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: this is the week you've been waiting for for that

467
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. But yeah, I don't know if he's

468
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 2: there's a lot of rumors going around if he's banked

469
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 2: up or whatever. And there was a play. I think

470
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: he got the wind knocked out of him, but he

471
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 2: got hit and he was down for a while after it.

472
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's fully healthy. I don't know

473
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Speaker 2: if we're seeing a late career decline because he's still

474
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: when they need to go to him, he still gets

475
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 2: open a lot, like I was saying with Cooper Cup,

476
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: but it's just not nearly as consistent as we are

477
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: used to seeing, you know.

478
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Speaker 1: And Flora made the point about Stefan Digg getting used

479
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: the way Cooper Cup has. I mean the difference right

480
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 1: now though, with the Rams and the Bills ostensibly right,

481
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 1: I know, the Bills are still very good, They're still

482
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: playing the playoffs, what have you. Cooper Cup has a

483
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: pooka nakua like Stefan Diggs doesn't have a Pooka Nakua

484
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: gay not I mean Ryan, I mean gave Davis. Kaloshakir

485
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: has been I think closer to what we want to

486
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: get Davis to be Jay Davis has been. I mean

487
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,959
Speaker 1: they got it. They they they still need that secondary receiver.

488
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: The Rams have found it. The Bills are still looking

489
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: for that.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it could be Kaloshakir Man. I mean, look,

491
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 3: Josh Allen favors the slot position a lot, So I

492
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,479
Speaker 3: feel like if you get him, start getting you know,

493
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: some touches as well, and some opportunity, he can blossom

494
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: into this second, you know, wide receiver just based on

495
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: Josh Allen had a familarity with the slot position. I

496
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: remember we remember Cole Beastly having like over one hundred

497
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 3: parts in those seasons. So why not create him into

498
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: that because that's really what made Josh Allen is like

499
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 3: game kind of elevate.

500
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and as a thing that I think people have

501
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: known for a while, right, We've talked about the Bills

502
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: still trying to find somebody that Yet times maybe they're

503
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: too reliant on Stephan Diggs. But I think the last year,

504
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: the year and a half have shown you why they

505
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: were so reliant on Stephan Diggs for so long. So

506
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: we'll see they have another chance, obviously to uh for

507
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: him to step up in a huge game against the Chiefs.

508
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 1: I did see a tweet this morning. Thing was Benjamin

509
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: Solak who mentioned that this is our first Bills Chiefs

510
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: game since the change in the overtime playoff rules, which

511
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: came about because of the last Bills Chiefs playoff game.

512
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Speaker 3: I know you're nervous.

513
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: Floor Yeah, and you're nervous. I hesitate to say this

514
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: out loud, but the follow up tweet to that was

515
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: the funniest thing would be if the Bills got the

516
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 1: ball first, went down, scored a touchdown, the Chiefs came back,

517
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, got a two point conversion, and won

518
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: the game. Anyway.

519
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 2: I guarantee one thing, Josh Allen would not cry to

520
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and take it like.

521
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: Ah the trash talk is maybe we should ge kim

522
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: Mey checks on for Thursday and let you two just

523
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: go battle it out too.

524
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 2: I am not going to bad mouth did she like

525
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 2: the utmost respect for them. The only thing I'm going

526
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 2: to point out is the crying after the game this season,

527
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 2: because that was pretty funny to me.

528
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a little unbecoming. I'll say that of

529
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. I'm gonna take a quick break. Come back,

530
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the guys that we cannot turn our

531
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 1: back on. Look, we're not gonna be pollying goodfellows and

532
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: turn our back on these guys just because they were

533
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: a little bit disappointing in twenty twenty three. So we'll

534
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: talk about a handful of those guys coming up next

535
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: here on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. All right, talking

536
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: about some guys who maybe we're underwhelming in twenty twenty three,

537
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: but we are not ready to give up on them

538
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty four.

539
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: We each picked a handful of them.

540
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: We'll see how many of these we get through this side.

541
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Speaker 1: We're going maybe too on this show, but look, I

542
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: want to start with you. Who is a guy that

543
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: you were not ready to pull the shoot on just yet?

544
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: Man? I got the itch man for Terry mclauren. Scary

545
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,400
Speaker 3: Terry Man. I feel like he's a quarterback away man.

546
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 3: I mean four season in a row, one thousand yards.

547
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: I mean, can we get him a real quarterback in

548
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: They're not saying Sam how is terrible, Like he showed flashes,

549
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: but he's not going to be the guy to stay

550
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: consistent to elevate Terry mclauren to this wide receiver one

551
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 3: top ten, you know, wide receivers with this type of play,

552
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 3: so they really need to hit hold run in this draft.

553
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: Man, I'm looking at Terry mclaughan. I was like trying

554
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 1: to go through and look at the quarterbacks that he

555
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: has played with, and it's terrible. I mean, yeah, Flora's

556
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: is he is he like the new does he get

557
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: the Alan Robinson Award? Like the guy that we need

558
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: to have a good quarterback, good player who just has

559
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: not had a good quarterback yet.

560
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. And the worst part is because I'm with LQ,

561
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: I cannot quit Terry. Like if LQ didn't write down

562
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, I would have because I can never quit

563
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: this guy. I'm always trying to target him himself. And

564
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: what makes this year more painful is fourteen hundred yards

565
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 2: and a career high in touchdowns. Soin Jacoby Brissett starts

566
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: all year, which is why I was so bullish on

567
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: him because I thought he was going to get to

568
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: start and We saw it in small sample sizes when

569
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: Brissette played, him and Terry were on the same page.

570
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: No offense to Sam Howe. You lead the league in

571
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 2: sacks taken, you lead the lead in interceptions. You can't

572
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 2: get the balls consistently to your wide receiver. One sounds

573
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 2: like a pretty good backup quarterback, not a league caliber starter.

574
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: So I agree, man, this is an important, important draft

575
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: for the Commanders and for Terry, and maybe they do

576
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 2: him a favor like the Panthers did for Dj Moore

577
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: and they trade him and to play with another.

578
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the quarterbacks who have thrown a touchdown

579
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: to Terry McLaurin case, Keenum, Dwayne Haskins rest in Peace,

580
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, Alex Smith, Taylor Heineke, Carson Wentz, Sam Howel,

581
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett.

582
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

583
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: Not exactly a who's who of quarterbacks over the last

584
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: five years. So we'll see what they do in the draft.

585
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: You know, the question is are they in position to

586
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: go get himself a good quarterback? Do they want to

587
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: after having brought in Sam Howe, there will be a

588
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: new head coach there, there's new ownership. Do they completely

589
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: just overhaul everything? We wait and see Floridal speak at a quarterbacks.

590
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: You got a quarterback you're not ready to give up

591
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: on yet.

592
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to quit on Anthony Richardson. I

593
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 2: know he got hurt this year, and some people are

594
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 2: going to point to that because he did get hurt

595
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: twice in four games. He needs to learn to protect

596
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 2: himself a little bit more. That doesn't mean stop running.

597
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: Like We've seen plenty of these mobile quarterbacks be able

598
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: to protect themselves. In fact, most of them were the

599
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 2: last quarterbacks standing this season. But in that four game

600
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: sample size, he rushed for fifty six yards, thirty five yards,

601
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 2: and forty yards in three of them, with four touchdowns

602
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: in those three games combined. Plus, we already know what

603
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: he can do with his legs. We already know he

604
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: has a cannon of an arm. The knock against him

605
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: was like he's kind of raw as a passer. Well,

606
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: Shane Ssychin has shown us that he can elevate passers

607
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Michael Pittman is a legit wide receiver

608
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: one hopefully they re sign him. But I trust Shane Sichin,

609
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: I trust the Russian ability, and I think Anthony Richardson

610
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: will surprise a lot of people with what he could

611
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: do with his arm, and you probably get him around

612
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: where you were getting him this past year, like a

613
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: low end QB one in drafts because we didn't see

614
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: a whole lot of him this past year.

615
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we didn't see a whole lot of him

616
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: this past year. I'll say this, Luquan, where where would

617
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: you want to take him in a draft? Right? Because

618
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: he's not we haven't seen enough in the NFL for

619
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: him to be just a lock solid, like yep, I'm

620
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: making him a QB one or have we? I mean,

621
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: is the talent and the skill set enough that you're

622
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: willing to take him? Say? Is QB eleven or twelve?

623
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 3: Eleven or twelve is tough for me. I feel like

624
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: the rushing upside is why we put him into those conversations,

625
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: but the small sample size man for him to be

626
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: my first quarterback, you know, my team low in QB one.

627
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: I probably will probably pivot to other players that are

628
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: kind of in that range of proven that have a

629
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: longer resume. But I do see the appeal for the

630
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 3: rushing upside. I just need to see more than four games,

631
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: you know, Like I'm very very cautious when it comes

632
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 3: to quarterbacks, you know, with the QB one low end

633
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: one label at least for me personally, but I need

634
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 3: to see more.

635
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean the way I drafted him this year, and

636
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: I think most people did. I draft him in a

637
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: lot of spots, but it was not to be the lockdown,

638
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, set and forget QB one. I drafted Anthony

639
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: Richardson because I also drafted say what I considered the

640
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: mid range quarterback. Right, Maybe I drafted Kirk Cousins and

641
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Maybe I drafted I mean at the time,

642
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: Dak Say right and paired him with Anthony Richardson. I

643
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: feel like that's gonna happen again, just because we know

644
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: he can run the football, we're still not sure about

645
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: him as a passer. Right. He had four games he

646
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't even finish all four games, but two games with

647
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: two hundred and more yards, never more than two twenty three,

648
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: two games under one hundred yards. So I think we're

649
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: still we're still trying to figure out what that part

650
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: of his game is going to be. And I think

651
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to make him a for sure QB one

652
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: until we have a better idea of what that's going

653
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: to be. But it also leads me to the guy

654
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: that I can't give up on, and that's Jonathan Taylor.

655
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: Because there was only one game this year where they

656
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: were on the field together. Speaking of Taylor and Anthony Richardson,

657
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: that was in Week five. That was Taylor's first game

658
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: back after the contract situation, after being on the pup list,

659
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: and he was not anywhere close to being at full strength.

660
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: That was still the Zach Moss Show at that time.

661
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: In that first game of Week five, Taylor had six

662
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: carries for eighteen yards, had one target there for sixteen yards.

663
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I was also the game where Richardson got hurt ended

664
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: up being out for the year. Gardner Minshewt took over.

665
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: We know how good Taylor can be. We know that.

666
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: I think when all things are equal, the Colts want

667
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: to make him there are be one. I want to

668
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: see what it's like when they're running urpos back there

669
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: and defenses have to figure out do we stop Richardson

670
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: running the ball? Do we stop Jonathan Taylor and how

671
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: effective that offense can be because we really didn't see

672
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: it this past year. I'm curious to see where the

673
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: ADP is going to land on Taylor. He's not a

674
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: first rounder. I don't know. I want to see a

675
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: second round or third rounder. Where is that right now?

676
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: And my tears and my rankings. I got him right

677
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 3: outside that first round, So the thirteenth spot will be

678
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: like where I got him down. He could possibly creep,

679
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I got him right outside first round.

680
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Agree, Mike, Yeah, you know, I can't quit Jonathan Taylor,

681
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: but I have him as round two because I worry

682
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: about how much he's going to be utilized in the

683
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: passing game. And you know me that if I'm taking

684
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: a first round running back, I need them to catch passes.

685
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is one thing that you know,

686
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: Taylor's never done a ton of in his career. He

687
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: was the he's the guy that you know, I was saying,

688
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: just because you've never seen a guy do it, doesn't

689
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: mean he can't do it. And Jonathan Taylor was kind

690
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: of one of those guys because the offense at Wisconsin

691
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: wasn't built to throw the football to running backs. But

692
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: we did see his second season. You know, forty catches

693
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: a couple of receiving touchdowns, so it may be not

694
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: his strong suit, but it's not completely out of the

695
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: out of the rem of possibility. We'll see what other

696
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: running backs are back there next year in Indianapolis.

697
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: Pass I just worry is Anthony Richardson going to be

698
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: throwing the quarterback?

699
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

700
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair too. I mean, will he

701
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: pull it down and just run it himself as opposed

702
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: to just throwing the little dump off. We'll see. Speaking

703
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: of running backs that everybody loved coming out of college, Lakwan,

704
00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: you still have one there on your list?

705
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't quit Dravonte Williams, just based on we

706
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: know the talent. We saw the talent. You know, he's

707
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 3: recovering back from a torn acl and a new head

708
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 3: coach coming in with Sean Payton. And the good thing

709
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: about Sean Payton is that he's going to get you know,

710
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: the running backs involved in the passing game. And I think,

711
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: you know, with him and Samaja is seeing over fifty

712
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: five targets. It's very encouraging because he kind of was

713
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: like East in the first couple of weeks to get

714
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: involved in the passing game and then he kind of

715
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: finished strong. So I feel like there was a lot

716
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: of distractions, you know, with the Broncos team. It was

717
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: overall just a bad Broncos team. So I can't quit him. Man,

718
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 3: if he ends up as my RB two next season,

719
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: I'm going to be very happy about it because just

720
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 3: his involvement in the passing game.

721
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: Does the quarterback situation have any impact on how you

722
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: feel about him?

723
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: Not really, just based on I know whoever they bring in,

724
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: even it is Jared Stidham or whoever they have back there.

725
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 3: I know that the running backs are going to be involved.

726
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: So in PPR least, you got to chase that upside

727
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 3: for a guy that's now when you're removed from that

728
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: torn ACL. So I'm will sending him if I can

729
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: get him.

730
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. I love Javonte right, And I

731
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: remember I remember the range of emotions I went through

732
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: when he was drafted because I'd scouted a lot of

733
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: his team and I was like, I really like this guy.

734
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: Then he went to Denver where they already had a

735
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: couple of guys, and it was sort of Adam Rank

736
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: that talked me off the ledge and got me to

737
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: kind of buy back into it again. And you know,

738
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: then unfortunately had the knee injury, all sorts of things

739
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: but I do love the skill set, and I think

740
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: I think to your point, Lakwan, he's in an offense

741
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: where who knows what's gonna happen next year, and maybe

742
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: maybe Sean Payton decides to use him sort of like

743
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara a little bit more because we know he

744
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: can catch the football forty seven catches this year. You know,

745
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: we'll see what becomes of samaj p Ryan or you

746
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: know what they do with Jalil McLoughlin next year. What

747
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: have you?

748
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: But another great talent too, yeah.

749
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I also think he's gonna come at a

750
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: decent ADP too, right, so you're not gonna have to

751
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: really expect a two ton of production out of him.

752
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: So there it is, all right, Floria, let's let's do this,

753
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 1: go for it.

754
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: I can already feel everyone's eyes rolling as I'm gonna

755
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: say this, But for the every year he's been in

756
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, Kyle Pitts has been my guy, and I

757
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: am not so I will say during this season I

758
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 2: started to wash my hands of him, and I was like, look,

759
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 2: after like week six or whatever it was, I was like,

760
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna keep telling you to start him. It's

761
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 2: not happening. John Smith is the guy that Arthur Smith loves.

762
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: But two big things have happened that have quickly pulled

763
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 2: me back in. Arthur Smith is gone. It does depend

764
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: who they hire like and who their quarterback is. If

765
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: they trade for Justin Fields and hire Ben Johnson, like

766
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: this offense could be one of the most fun in

767
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: the league. One. I've never doubted Kyle Pitts's talent. He

768
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: has shown us from the moment he's entered the league

769
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: that he could play this position at a high level.

770
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: But to the second point that I don't know if

771
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: it's getting enough talk. Bitts posted after the season that

772
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: like he was still dealing with that knee injury from

773
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: that he suffered late in the year before that ended

774
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: his season, and he was never fully healthy. And if

775
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: you remember back to like the summer he was in

776
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 2: training camp within big knee braks. Early on in the year,

777
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: we were saying stuff like Pitts is, he's not cutting right,

778
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: he doesn't look as fast and as smooth as he

779
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: normally does. So I think with being free of Arthur Smith,

780
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 2: and with having a full year and a regular offseason

781
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: to kind of recover and hopefully get acclimated with whoever

782
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: their new quarterback is, because they do not have a

783
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: quarterback that should be starting next year on their roster.

784
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: If those things happen, I will be in on Kyle

785
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: Pitts again. Now, I tell you, I don't know if

786
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put him top five tight end again because

787
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: I've already seen people say like he and I'm like,

788
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: I could think of four right off the bat in McBride, Laporta, Andrews,

789
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: and Kelsey that I would take over Kyle Pitts after

790
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: those four. I think we have a conversation like Pincaid

791
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 2: and Pits and these other up and comers. So, uh,

792
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: He'll be a tight end one for me, top ten

793
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: for sure, and I'm not quitting him.

794
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: So I am currently in a way too early mock

795
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: draft a slow draft for next season. And I will

796
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,439
Speaker 1: tell you the order of tight I drafted Kyle Pitts.

797
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: Let me just start with that. Let's go nice. I

798
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: drafted Kyle Pitts in the sixth round of this draft,

799
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: and he was tight end number one, two, three, four, five.

800
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: I draught that it was the fifth tight end. Now

801
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: t J. Hawkinson went ahead of him. That feels a

802
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: little optimistic after the you know, the late season knee injury.

803
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: Uh so that probably won't actually happen when we get

804
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: to real draft. But I took him the last pick

805
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: of the sixth round. I guess I could have flipped

806
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: it around and taken him with the first pick of

807
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: the seventh round and make it seem a little bit better. Actually,

808
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: let me let me take that back. So he's tight

809
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: in one, two, three, four, uh five, six? Seven? Actually

810
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: I got a miss in seven now that I'm looking

811
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: at this again. Sorry, just trying to scroll and scroll

812
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: and talk all the same time.

813
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 3: That's actually where I got him ranked like seven or eight.

814
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: So I've got him a tight end seven into the

815
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: sixth round, start of the seventh round. It is kind

816
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: of where I have him right now, which that feels

817
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: like a pretty good price this florio. Bill Belichick interviewed

818
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: with the Falcons. Does that make you feel okay potentially

819
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: about Kyle Pitts. Look, Belichick coach one of the greatest

820
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: tight ends of all time, right and Rob Gronkowski. Can

821
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: he make it work with Pits easily?

822
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Yes? And I think especially if he brings like Josh

823
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: McDaniels or something like that to call the plays because

824
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: we know that that they'll design a ton to go

825
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: to the tight end position. The big question, maybe even

826
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: more than head coach for me, though, is who's going

827
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: to be throwing him the ball like that? That is

828
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 2: one we need an answer to and and when we

829
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: get it, I'll probably be sucks back into pits. If

830
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 2: it's someone good justin fields. Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.

831
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: My wife saw my wife saw the news about Bill

832
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: Belichick interviewing. She's like, why does he have to interview?

833
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 1: It's Bill Belichick. If he wants the job, just give

834
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: him the job, Like, what's going on here?

835
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: Was like, do you have any references? And it's just

836
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 2: him with the six rings on his hands.

837
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: Been There are a lot of good jokes about that,

838
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: you know. Somebody quote tweeted it with can you talk

839
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: about a time you faced the significant odds and how

840
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: you overcame them? Obviously a reference to twenty eight to three. Well,

841
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll just keep let's keep the Falcons love

842
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: going because you can't give up on Kyle Pitts. I

843
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: can't completely give up on Drake London for a lot

844
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: of the same reasons. I mean, another big body, talented

845
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 1: receiver who all things considered, was not terrible this year,

846
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: but he definitely had a cap on him because of

847
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: the quarterback situation there in Atlanta. But for Drake London,

848
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 1: I mean was a year where he had nine hundred

849
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: receiving yards only the two touchdowns. Uh, you know, the

850
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: the catch rate not great, one hundred and ten targets,

851
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: just sixty nine catches. But you know how much of

852
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: that had to do with the quarterback situation, just you know,

853
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: sixty three percent catch rate. Without looking I don't I

854
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: would imagine that he had a lot of targets that

855
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: probably weren't catchable during the season. So I'm I think

856
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 1: it's a lot of the same things Florio talked about

857
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts. The quarterback situation is going to play

858
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: a large part in this and whatever the Falcons decided

859
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: to do in terms of bringing somebody in, you know,

860
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: I think that's where we're kind of waiting on to

861
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: see right now. But I think Drake London has been

862
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: on the fringes of that. You know, he's been a

863
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver too. I think there's more. I think there's

864
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: still possibly more for him to be there that he

865
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: can get closer, maybe not being in the top twelve,

866
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: but certainly a lot closer than he is right now.

867
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: But so much of it has to do with with

868
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: you know, the guy's throwing in the football.

869
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 3: I don't know he should be having Mike Evans numbers

870
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: right now if he had a quarterback. Honestly, how talented

871
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: he is.

872
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't think that's crazy. You know,

873
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: look about saying he's gonna you know, run over together

874
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: a streak of ten straight years of one thousand yards.

875
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: Or whoever is the smith made sure that didn't happen.

876
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: But but I mean, he can be one of those

877
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: guys I think in the right situation. There, let's go

878
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: one more round this name. I saw this on the list,

879
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: lakwan that this surprised me, but I will I'm I'm

880
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: gonna let you cook.

881
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: Go for it, let me cook me. I can't quit

882
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: Tuba Herbert. Now, I was going into this offseason like

883
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 3: a little bit like on the low of him, like

884
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 3: we got Miles Sanders there. But it's clear that Miles

885
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: Sanders is not the guy. I mean, he's clearly not

886
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 3: giving maximum effort as hungry as you know, Tuba Herber,

887
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: and I think he could have cracked one thousand yards

888
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: if they didn't delay his touches, you know, the first

889
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 3: six weeks of football, and then they finally made the change.

890
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Tuba had six games this season with twenty

891
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 3: touches versus Miles Sanders only one game with twenty touches

892
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: and that was in Week one for Miles Sanders. So

893
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: of course you're going into the season with your contract

894
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: guy who has a four year contract by the way,

895
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: with the Panthers, and it's already looking like, you know,

896
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: Choobahbber has taken this RB one role, So he's going

897
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: to be very very cheap. You're probably not even gonna

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: hear his name pop up much. And if he survives

899
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: the draft, if he survives you know, free agency, and

900
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: he's the guy. I mean, look, he's hungry, he can

901
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: run well, and I just feel as though he has

902
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: a lot under his belt now. And I mean playing

903
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 3: behind Deontay Foreman, you know that that one year and

904
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 3: then now behind Miles Sanderson taking over to RB one role,

905
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 3: I think you're going to be getting a guy that's

906
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: like a sneaky sleeper that can be productive because he

907
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 3: had some very productive weeks this season.

908
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: Man, I was like this, I mean, I guess I can't.

909
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: I can't not quit Chewba Hubbard.

910
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 3: She never started right where I was going.

911
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: I think the walk around this bush is gonna be

912
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: a really long one. But you saw where I was going.

913
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I mean, I can't. I can't not

914
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: quit him, or I can't quit him because I was

915
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: never really there in the first place. I I didn't

916
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: expect anything out of Miles Sanders this year, and he

917
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: gave me kind of what I thought. But the other

918
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: part of it was I didn't think anything about Chewba

919
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: Hubbard because I'm like, if we don't like the front

920
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: line guy, how am I gonna get excited about the

921
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: guy behind him?

922
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: Uh?

923
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: Hubber proved me wrong. I mean, when he got that

924
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: opportunity midway through the season, he played pretty well all

925
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: things considered. Uh, you know, in an offense that was

926
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: was really really miserable. At some point, I'm gonna go

927
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: back and try to watch the Panthers offense.

928
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: Watching the December it was.

929
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: Okay good because I was like, I'm gonna need a

930
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: lot of coffee probably to uh get me through it,

931
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: but I do want to kind of watch this and

932
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: see where they need to improve, which is a lot

933
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: of places, but we'll see there. Uh, Florida, you got

934
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: a guy who was near and dear to all of

935
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: our hearts, all of us who played fantasy football. It

936
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: was a rough year for Austin Eckler, but we are

937
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: hoping for more.

938
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was in Austin Eckler stand before it was cool.

939
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: So let's go full circle and I'm going to be

940
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: in an Austin Eckler stand after it's cool because every

941
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: I mean, this year was weird all around for Austin Eckler.

942
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: Like Marcus You'll remember back at Chargers train we were

943
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: talking about his contract and not I mean we were

944
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: talking about like the offense in the season and stuff

945
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 2: like that, but the focal point was like his contract

946
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: and running back contracts and stuff like that. So it

947
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: never fully felt like this was for the first time

948
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: in his seven year career with the Chargers, it felt

949
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 2: like there were some cracks and maybe both sides were

950
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 2: kind of seeing that there's they're gonna go in a

951
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: different direction after this year. And you look at Austin Eckler,

952
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: I know listen RB twenty five. I get it didn't

953
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: live up to the first round pick big Bust. I

954
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: get it, but you look at his game log as

955
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: a receiver pretty on par with what he was in

956
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: the past. They just were throwing him the ball a

957
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: lot less as a runner. His numbers did take a hit,

958
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: But I key, I know I sound like a broken

959
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: record at this point. I can't stop thinking that that

960
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: high ankle spring that he suffered in Week one that

961
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: put him on the IR hampered his season because last

962
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 2: year he looked like the all Pro, all world running back.

963
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 2: This year he looked like a complete shell of himself.

964
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: I don't think. I know drop offs happened fast in

965
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: the NFL, but that one seemed like it was too egregious,

966
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: and so I'm thinking that that ankle injury had something

967
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 2: to do with it. I'm just hoping that next year

968
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: he ends up on a team that is willing to

969
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: throw the ball to him a bunch unlike the Chargers

970
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: were this past year. But we're gonna get him cheaper

971
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: than we've gotten alsin Eckler since Melvin Gordon was in

972
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: the Chargers. So because of that, I will not quit.

973
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: And if he goes what round do you guys think

974
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Alsin Eckler goes in next year?

975
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: Oh, depends where he lands with team if he's a commander.

976
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: I mean, right now, i'd say five, six.

977
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: I was thinking like fourth, fifth, I'll take him in

978
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 2: that range.

979
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifth, yeah, I mean, so much of it is

980
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: going to be landing spot.

981
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: As he's talking like practice squad, like he said in

982
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: the bar low for him what he's talking about.

983
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Austin, you're way better than a practice squad.

984
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Squad like you look, I mean look, I mean practice squad.

985
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette spent a good chunk of the season on

986
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: the practice squad and finally came up at the end

987
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: of the year. Austin Eckler has more to offer still

988
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: right now than Leonard Fournette does. But look, we know

989
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: the reality teams aren't paying running backs and we'll see

990
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: what the market is out there for him. Someone will

991
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: sign him. The question is who it will be and

992
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: what kind of role he can have in that offense.

993
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: My last one is Kyler Murray because we had to

994
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: wait a while, and we knew this coming into the season,

995
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: right he had just come off the ACL. We had

996
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: to wait a while before he finally got on the field,

997
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: and even then it took up a while for him

998
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: to kind of kind of get back into form. But

999
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: he did have some nice games, some nice fantasy games

1000
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: along the way. He had three rushing touchdowns in his

1001
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: first three games back, had some decent passing numbers, no

1002
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: huge passing numbers, but he did give you a few

1003
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: twenty point games games. Some of that's going to be

1004
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: the cast around him, Like what happens you know, Marquise Brown,

1005
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: does he come back? Do they re sign him? You

1006
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: know what happens with some of the other younger receivers

1007
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: around I mean, Greg Dorch had some nice games somewhere.

1008
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: Does ron Dale Moore ever become a thing in this offense?

1009
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: You know, Trey McBride is a nice starting but Trey

1010
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: McBride can sort of be his mark Andrews if you

1011
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: will right, there are pieces there to be had. The

1012
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 1: Cardinals will have some decent draft picks, at least in

1013
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: the draft draft spot. So I think there's still a

1014
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: lot of life left in Kyler Murray. I don't know

1015
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 1: if he becomes an afterthought in drafts, if people kind

1016
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: of forget about what happened, and he falls down the

1017
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: board a little bit because there's so many these other

1018
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we're talking about that Kyler's name doesn't quite come up.

1019
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: But I think there's still a lot of upside there.

1020
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of QB one upside. Maybe he doesn't

1021
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: run the way he did earlier in his career, but

1022
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: we know he can still run. If the Cardinals are

1023
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: committed to continuing to build around him. Because the chance

1024
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: for the Caleb Williams sweepstakes is over, there's still some

1025
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: there's still some life there. I don't know if Floria,

1026
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you were a big Michael Wilson

1027
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: proponent there. I mean, there's still there's still reason to

1028
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: be optimistic.

1029
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyler Murray, like he was running, I thought, you know,

1030
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: in like less May, I was like, are they even

1031
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 2: going to play him? And then I was like, okay,

1032
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 2: they're going to play him. We got past that, but

1033
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 2: it was like, is he gonna run? And he proved

1034
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: me and a lot of people wrong every step of

1035
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 2: the way. There's a lot of juice there, Like you

1036
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 2: were saying, still, and I think he's only going to

1037
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: get better as a runner. Being another year removed from

1038
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: that that ACL injury. There's a lot of studies that

1039
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: show that the more time you get away from it,

1040
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 2: the more speed and burst you kind of get back.

1041
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you, Marcus, I'm in on Kyler. But the

1042
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: beautiful thing about it is he's no way is he

1043
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 2: going to be a top five quarterback. He might be

1044
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: like QB eight or nine off the board.

1045
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a great two quarterback, you know when

1046
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 3: it comes down to it. And definitely Michael Wilson's like

1047
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: one of my favorite, you know, rookie wide receivers that's

1048
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 3: on that team, and it's like he he can develop

1049
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 3: into a nice wide receiver too. But it's a matter

1050
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: if they bring Hollywood Brown back or if they bring somebody

1051
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 3: else's back. You know, great Dorch. You know, he's like

1052
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: Marcus said, he's making plays somewhere, you know, if it's

1053
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 3: on special teams, if it's in the slot. But I'm

1054
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 3: I'm still in on Kyler Murray as well, Like I'm

1055
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 3: not completely out yet.

1056
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: Real quick Kyler or toua Tyler.

1057
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 3: Kyler. Yeah, as crazy as it sounds like that just

1058
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 3: sounds nuts.

1059
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: Kyler or Kyler or Trevor Lawrence.

1060
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: Oh, Kyler Tyler Ever's done. I quit him.

1061
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

1062
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 3: I'm so glad Trevor Lawrence for now. He needs Christian Kirk,

1063
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 3: that's all.

1064
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 2: I'll take Anthony Richardson over him in fantasy.

1065
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not done with Trevor Lawrence,

1066
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: but I think, you know, I think it's a point.

1067
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 1: It's just like, all right, he's he's not the generational

1068
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: He's not the generational quarterback that that maybe he was.

1069
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: How it to be? That part's not his fault. He didn't.

1070
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 1: He's not the one who asked for that label. It

1071
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: was just given to him.

1072
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 3: Jordan Loves taking his spot in my heart.

1073
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: I like that, all right? All right, Yeah, Jordan Love

1074
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: right now is looking like the quarterback we thought Trevor

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Speaker 1: Lawrence might be at least, you know, I know it's

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Speaker 1: been one season as a starter, but that's kind of

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Speaker 1: where we're headed right now.

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Speaker 2: Quarterback is going to be sneakily deep next year in

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Speaker 2: for fantasy purposes. I'm looking at my rank as I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be deep.

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Speaker 1: No, I think you're right, and I think it's you

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Speaker 1: know what, if you want to go early, you can

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Speaker 1: find a guy there that you like. If you want

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Speaker 1: to go later, you're going to find some guys there

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Speaker 1: that you like too. So a situation where every draft

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Speaker 1: strategy might be appropriate. Of course, of course, you know

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Speaker 1: every draft strategy works if you pick the right players.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole trick and knew the future hashtag draft

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Speaker 1: good players. That's the whole deal there. All right, that

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Speaker 1: was a pretty full episode there. We'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you on Thursday. We will start to dive into the

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Speaker 1: divisional round and we'll find some other things to gab

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Speaker 1: about for forty five minutes to an hour or so

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Speaker 1: as well, So that I'll do it for this edition

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast for Florio, for LaQuan

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Speaker 1: and Marcus. They happy, safe, unhealthy, do good, and live well.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you later this week.