Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you, my lie, and look
Speaker 1: over there. How is that culture? Yes, goodness, dogs, culture
Speaker 1: tactile getting tactile and we're touching. Yeah. I have to
Speaker 1: say happy birthday to my dear sister, and thank you
Speaker 1: for saying that. What do you mean, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking. I was just reiving it in a
Speaker 1: real way and I want you to know I'm in
Speaker 1: my receiving era and I'm just because of more bottoming
Speaker 1: over the past year. Amazing you you did say this.
Speaker 1: Last night we went to the Scissa concert Healing, Healing, Healing,
Speaker 1: cathartic and healing, best visuals I've ever seen. Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 1: so we we were literally we met up before and
Speaker 1: then we were talking some of us girlfriends, like girlfriends
Speaker 1: do girlfriends, girl friends, they talk. It's actually real culture.
Speaker 1: Number thirty girlfriends they talk, and we were saying, you know,
Speaker 1: I bet scissors, um, I bet the staging of this
Speaker 1: will be like, um well, none of us really knew
Speaker 1: going in what it was like. One was like I
Speaker 1: think I saw a lighthouse. I got spoiled on techtok
Speaker 1: it was like there's a lighthouse involved as yes, oh
Speaker 1: of course the theme is like so os, it's like
Speaker 1: very save our ship by to save our ship, which
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You didn't know that. I thought
Speaker 1: it was just because the Morse code. It's so it's
Speaker 1: like the easiest, simplest morse code. Oh, I'm here to
Speaker 1: tell you. It really stands for save our ship. So
Speaker 1: that's essentially what they're typing into Morse code. That's what
Speaker 1: the messages save our ship. Oh my god, I learned
Speaker 1: something every day from you. Yeah's not true, that's true.
Speaker 1: I know. This is the first thing you've learned from
Speaker 1: me in a very long time. We're gonna get We're
Speaker 1: gonna blue back on this idea later because I learned
Speaker 1: something huge from you that had to do with our guests. Okay,
Speaker 1: just the show Titanique itself. Yes, we'll get to that later.
Speaker 1: But basically we were talking. We were like, you know,
Speaker 1: I bet Scissa just comes out and just takes the
Speaker 1: mic and sings and that's all. The songwriting is so
Speaker 1: strong that you could you could have been it could
Speaker 1: have been just that. Right now. I don't think this
Speaker 1: has been done. I have, or at least I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it in like the arena concerts I've been to,
Speaker 1: the few that I've been to, the handful i've been to.
Speaker 1: She does spoiler alert, she does like um projector like
Speaker 1: LEDs as a cage. She has four walls of LEDs
Speaker 1: that go up and down. And then they moved the
Speaker 1: step pieces in and out. It was amazing. It was incredible.
Speaker 1: It was giving environment, yes, atmosphere it was it was interactive, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was it was telling a story. It was
Speaker 1: really really incredible. It's like, I just have to compliment
Speaker 1: the vision to say nothing of the live vocal honey,
Speaker 1: to say choo, of the choreo, of the wardrobe, of
Speaker 1: the wardrobe, of the commitment of everyone on stage. And
Speaker 1: you know what I loved. What I loved is that
Speaker 1: everyone on stage is living for and the music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like there's not a phone in no moment now.
Speaker 1: And I had what I would call a cathartic emotional release.
Speaker 1: Do you remember to what songs? Well, let's just say
Speaker 1: F two f at. That was amazing, but we knew
Speaker 1: it would be. Nobody gets me. That was a full moment.
Speaker 1: And I swear she pointed at me. I suppear she
Speaker 1: pointed at me. Okay, when she was on the boat.
Speaker 1: So that's just the power of Scissa. You feel as
Speaker 1: though she's pointing at you. She's sort of like one
Speaker 1: of those what do you call it, She's one of
Speaker 1: those paintings. She's like one of those paintings. It's actually
Speaker 1: really coach number fifty. She's like one of those paintings.
Speaker 1: You know what, bitch, bitch, what we have to be
Speaker 1: in person? It's so different. I have something to say.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just want to say that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm back, and I feel sorry for these girls. Matt Rogers,
Speaker 1: I'm taking an apartment in New York, is going fully
Speaker 1: by coastal and is taking an apartment in New York,
Speaker 1: a friend of our guests. I believe, Yes, well, I
Speaker 1: don't want to blow up anyone spot too much, but like, yes,
Speaker 1: it has fallen into my lap. This sort of amazing,
Speaker 1: too good to be true. But I even said to
Speaker 1: him today when I checked out the year, I was like,
Speaker 1: this feels too good to be true, but in a
Speaker 1: way that will work out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: do good TV true, but that will work out. I
Speaker 1: just got chills. I am galhanize, I'm excited. I'm ready
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm ready to return to New York
Speaker 1: and I am thrilled about it and just even being
Speaker 1: in the presence of my let's just say it here
Speaker 1: and now sister periods period. But to continue the sentence
Speaker 1: ellips makes me feel three periods. It's actually really culture
Speaker 1: number seventy ellipsis three periods, not more or not less. No,
Speaker 1: two periods go off quickly. This is not quite I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey level. It actually might be, but
Speaker 1: I'll save it. But an ellipsis is three periods period.
Speaker 1: If you've done two periods, what you've done is confused.
Speaker 1: And if you're in four territory, if you're four and above,
Speaker 1: regulate yourself. Yeah, unless you're doing it for comedic effect.
Speaker 1: I support comedians. I do, I do, I do. Can
Speaker 1: I just quickly stay before we bring in the guests.
Speaker 1: We recorded an entire episode of this podcast last que
Speaker 1: Racist with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang that was lost too.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just say Hotel Wifidney, Sydney, Hotel wi FI,
Speaker 1: and I just want to quickly say I had a
Speaker 1: great time in Sydney. There's so much that happened. I
Speaker 1: saw Kylie minok Denny Minoque came out. I went on
Speaker 1: a Kylie Minogue boat that was incredible. I did so
Speaker 1: many things, but I just really think it's important that
Speaker 1: I say one thing from the trip, which is I
Speaker 1: want to shout out Linden Watt, who is an iconic
Speaker 1: performer in Australia that is a reader and reached out.
Speaker 1: He actually won the Sydney Theater Award for Pastralia for
Speaker 1: as Aaron Burr and Hamilton in Australia I would have
Speaker 1: killed to see. Just amazing. And he invited me to
Speaker 1: the Sydney Opera House. They were doing a symphony of
Speaker 1: Disney songs perfect and it was just like wow, like
Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted to go see. Linden is an
Speaker 1: incredible singer and performer and they're taking it on the
Speaker 1: road and I think they're doing on the Gold Coast
Speaker 1: right now, Like if you can see this ghost you
Speaker 1: love the Gold Coast, Honey, I know, and you know
Speaker 1: where I went to Bondaye Beach. Get some coasting. Come
Speaker 1: on my skin. She's you came into the room last
Speaker 1: night and you were you were very kissed by the sun.
Speaker 1: You know. I had a moment last night where I
Speaker 1: went into the bathroom and I looked at myself in
Speaker 1: the mirror and I said, I said, I was on mushrooms.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, girl, pick yourself up. Girl,
Speaker 1: I pointed myself in the mirror. I said, girl, it
Speaker 1: could look at we can't even look at you. You're
Speaker 1: gonna be sad. Don't be sad. And now I'm not sad.
Speaker 1: I blame the scissor and the mushrooms, but you were.
Speaker 1: I will write a book about you. Some day I
Speaker 1: will be your biographer. And with that, and with that,
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you, and this is my
Speaker 1: I will never loving you, oh my god, never till
Speaker 1: you're a dying day. I will be the last thing
Speaker 1: you see. I pray in a world where I outlive you,
Speaker 1: that is going to happen. You're younger. God, we can't
Speaker 1: we can't even talk about that. Now, let's not talk
Speaker 1: about that. Let's not talk about death, because actually, our
Speaker 1: guest today stars in a show about death in many ways,
Speaker 1: and life and life and love and love the story
Speaker 1: of Titanic is one of death, life, and love. Rule
Speaker 1: of culture number nineteen twelve, which is the year that
Speaker 1: it's saying of Culture number nineteen twelve, Life and Love.
Speaker 1: Our guest is someone who I said earlier before you
Speaker 1: came in here. Matt has sort of set tent poles
Speaker 1: for the culture at the most critical periods. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: she has. She has. I am willing to admit before
Speaker 1: we bring her on, admit it that we did not
Speaker 1: see the famed legendary Colors of the Wind video, which
Speaker 1: every BFA graduate between the years two thousand and nine
Speaker 1: and twenty twenty two has seen. Yeah, I don't have
Speaker 1: a b FA, you do. I have a BFA, but
Speaker 1: in dramatical, which is something musical theater BFA's. Every musical
Speaker 1: theater FFA from the years two thousand nine and twenty
Speaker 1: two has seen this video Colors of the Wind. Yeah.
Speaker 1: People think because of my musical theater personality that I
Speaker 1: have a BFA in musical theater, but I only have
Speaker 1: the personality of a musical theater BFA, right, and dramatic
Speaker 1: writing BFA is just there's a little bit more more typing. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm the most exciting dramatic writing BFA of all time.
Speaker 1: It's true. As rule Culture number six, Matt rob Rogers
Speaker 1: is the most exciting dramatic writing BFA of all time.
Speaker 1: Our guest is Iconica Jones. Iconica Jones very well name.
Speaker 1: You have seen her in special on Netflix. You've seen
Speaker 1: her in Maybe Sister Act in the original Broadway cast. Um,
Speaker 1: she was in a very straight production of South Pacific.
Speaker 1: She just told me. But currently but currently hashtag currently
Speaker 1: starring as Celine dion In. I mean, we said it
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and we say it a lot. The
Speaker 1: best show in best can see Ti Tannique, the funniest
Speaker 1: show in New York period point blank. But like to
Speaker 1: say nothing of the singing and the writing, the production,
Speaker 1: every everything about it will make you feel so good.
Speaker 1: And I tell everyone that I talked to they have
Speaker 1: to go see Titsanique. And then it was as if
Speaker 1: fate struck one night. It was as if fate struck
Speaker 1: one night when I was on Late at Night with
Speaker 1: Seth Myers. I loved the program that comes from actually
Speaker 1: right after this night show right every night except for
Speaker 1: the weekend, and the musical guest was Titanique, and I said,
Speaker 1: I know that right now, and the words of Brooke
Speaker 1: Ashley and CARDI B I know that's right by the way,
Speaker 1: Brook Ashley the brook Ashley. Her recaps have been popping
Speaker 1: off every single week, every week, and also I will
Speaker 1: say I have to let the readers down. We don't
Speaker 1: watch vander Pump, but we will start. I'm start Heidi
Speaker 1: at work is like I'm going to start watching because
Speaker 1: of all this drama. Now I'm like a me too.
Speaker 1: Can we always call Heidi Gardner Heidi at work? Heidi
Speaker 1: at work to come back on period? Period? I want
Speaker 1: her and I go together, yes, yes, yes, romantically, romantically.
Speaker 1: This is such a moment in time. We love her
Speaker 1: so much. Oh my gosh, she is a true paragon
Speaker 1: of talent. So pull yourself from champagne, get a glass
Speaker 1: of red wine and sit back and enjoy it because
Speaker 1: we don't have a minute to spare. This isn't the
Speaker 1: words of brook Ashley. Please welcome, here we go. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I am literally crying tears. No one has
Speaker 1: ever introduced me like that. I don't deserve that. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is people. People often say that about themselves. You
Speaker 1: know what I say, Get on the mushrooms and go
Speaker 1: to this as a concert. You're right, look at yourself.
Speaker 1: You receive us on onshi. Oh my god, holy hell,
Speaker 1: are you receiving right now, I am I just received
Speaker 1: that introduction receiving. Oh my god, Oh I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1: I'm so jealou It was it was wonderful. It was
Speaker 1: a wonderful concert. Oh my god. I mean I saw
Speaker 1: instagrams too, and I was like, God, what I would
Speaker 1: give to be on shrooms. It was right now? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I mean also like she came out at the end,
Speaker 1: and you know, she's like a New York local and
Speaker 1: just a New York local, hik. They got her for
Speaker 1: real cheap. But she came out she said this, it's
Speaker 1: so meaningful to be in this room. I grew up
Speaker 1: in Jerseys um. And then she said, I think this
Speaker 1: is really funny. She said, I went to school near
Speaker 1: here here, which we can all say here you went
Speaker 1: to ny I was at NYU dramatic writing graduate. And
Speaker 1: I'm the most exciting of all time. Okay, I got
Speaker 1: that part where you go, oh my god, is that
Speaker 1: where you guys became the first sort of encountered. That's right.
Speaker 1: But you were not dramatic. I was not dramatic. You
Speaker 1: were just pure drama. I was I was just getting drama.
Speaker 1: I was drama. You gave drama. Sometimes, when did I
Speaker 1: give drama? I don't know, Like I guess I remember
Speaker 1: ever give drama? You really were not the drama I did.
Speaker 1: The only thing I did tangentially related to NYU theater
Speaker 1: was I was the voice of God in our friend
Speaker 1: Colin Cordposse's ETW senior piece. I guess he's sort of
Speaker 1: talking about giving drama in terms of an acting thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm very much talking about I wasn't even doing that. No,
Speaker 1: you really weren't. But I just knew you as so
Speaker 1: I was get this. There was a time in Bowen
Speaker 1: Yang and I his friendship where I was closer with
Speaker 1: other people. At one point I was closer with like
Speaker 1: Billy Domino, your roommate than you, and so I would
Speaker 1: sort of hear both sides of like minor roommate confidence, y'all,
Speaker 1: like this person didn't do the dishes that night, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing being in the drama. Now, I also
Speaker 1: went to drama school and every single person hooked up.
Speaker 1: May I ask you if that happened amongst our community? No? No,
Speaker 1: And there were there was crossover. Oh, I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about this when Stephanie's shoe was on there was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, there was a fun little like Matt was
Speaker 1: in the sketch group. I was in the improv group,
Speaker 1: and there was like there were like a couple of
Speaker 1: fun little dalliances across the crossover love it and also
Speaker 1: intra group dating as well. Yes, intra group dating. I mean,
Speaker 1: but with the thing with like being in drama school
Speaker 1: and the fucking that happens in there, that certainly was
Speaker 1: happening with an ny U tish all the time. Where
Speaker 1: where did you go to school? Tell the reader, Cincinnati
Speaker 1: College Conservatory of Music, because that's university. Yeah it's one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the Harvard or Yale of Musical Theater in
Speaker 1: the butt crack of Cincinnati, Ohio. Yeah. I called it
Speaker 1: gay sleepway camp. Every person was gay and if you weren't,
Speaker 1: you were Did you have gay? By May? The phrase
Speaker 1: oh yes? And I think you know what was really frustrating.
Speaker 1: I was gay by me? Were you did you come
Speaker 1: in straight? I came in straight, came in right, and
Speaker 1: the iconic cold wait until June I told, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I couldn't. What happened was so I account being gay
Speaker 1: by mey is if you tell anyone? And I told
Speaker 1: two girls on my floor shout out to Alexandria Toko
Speaker 1: and Katie Vincent, and they were they were fabulous. But
Speaker 1: I told them that I was gay around let's call
Speaker 1: it February March, so I was gay technically by by Yeah, yeah, congratulations.
Speaker 1: It was a huge step forward. I think I needed
Speaker 1: to be good. I think I needed to come out.
Speaker 1: You needed to come out, but you came out before
Speaker 1: I did. Well, that's loaded. It's loaded. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of contexts there. That's miss. I'm getting sort of weaved
Speaker 1: in and out of gay the same. Really you Yeah. Oh.
Speaker 1: I came into college. I was like, I'm here, I'm
Speaker 1: queer and nobody else's so I'm going back in the
Speaker 1: sh okay and I was like, I'm going to try
Speaker 1: this out. A tour of the Drowsy Shop Rone. No, wow,
Speaker 1: now were you? Were you Sutton or Beth Level I
Speaker 1: was neither. I was a part that no one remembers
Speaker 1: name Kitty Yeah. Yeah, she's like the stupid one. And
Speaker 1: it was my first it was my first thing and
Speaker 1: I was like, huh, this is my first national tour
Speaker 1: and my first dabble in bisexuality. And it went okay.
Speaker 1: It went exactly how you think it would go, where
Speaker 1: I was like, I dated this guy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is I'm ever been more bored in my entire life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have to. We're also in Utah. This is the
Speaker 1: most boring episode of my life. I gotta get out
Speaker 1: of both of these things. Wow, straight man and Utah?
Speaker 1: What is this one of the bad scenes from Real
Speaker 1: House of Salt Lake City? What is a scene with
Speaker 1: John Barlow and Seth Marks talking about wow? Wow, Wow?
Speaker 1: This is okay. This is the thing that I quickly
Speaker 1: wanted to bring up. There are videos of Marla with
Speaker 1: Brian Jordan Alvarez. Yes, oh, that are just so fucking funny.
Speaker 1: Some of the best, some of the best. But this
Speaker 1: is the first time I saw you and I was like,
Speaker 1: who is that. It's a video called It's Doll on YouTube.
Speaker 1: I believe it's called how to Tell If Someone's Gay
Speaker 1: and it's Marla and Brian are talking. The first line
Speaker 1: is Brian goes. I'm sure this is an Atlett. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was written with Brian Goes and that's how my
Speaker 1: mom got out of jail. And then Dory Potter walks
Speaker 1: out as this guy in their apartment building, and Brian's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's my neighbor. I was though he is kind of cute,
Speaker 1: but I can't tell if he's gay. And then Marla goes,
Speaker 1: this is so annoying that I'm just like repeat please
Speaker 1: because I actually don't remember. Yeah, So Marlo goes, I'll
Speaker 1: find out, Hey, you come here, and then Doric comes over.
Speaker 1: What's up? Um? I like your shirt? He goes, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun like fashion. And then Marle goes, yeah, fashion,
Speaker 1: and then her face drops and she goes, you like
Speaker 1: that you gay? And the video and my friend Andrew
Speaker 1: Farmer and I would would just watch that video over
Speaker 1: and over all the time and just just just say
Speaker 1: that all the time, were like, you gay, He'd like
Speaker 1: that you gay. I would tell Brian all these stories.
Speaker 1: There was another one that we did about yogurt. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you one is art. Okay, so it's
Speaker 1: coming on the show. Yeah, Brian is high art. He's
Speaker 1: true high art. Oh yeah, high art. Yeah. So yogurt
Speaker 1: is based on my time in Cincinnati, Ohio at a
Speaker 1: Kroger's grocery store. I don't know if you've ever been
Speaker 1: my friend Jonathan Park's Rammage. Maybe you've heard of him.
Speaker 1: He was checking out yogurt the grocery store and one
Speaker 1: of the attendants picks up it the yogurt, and she's like,
Speaker 1: what is this and he was like, it's yogurt. And
Speaker 1: she looks at it with this knowing smile and she
Speaker 1: was like, so this is yogurt. Where do you get this?
Speaker 1: And he was like in the dairy section and she
Speaker 1: was like, huh, I'm gonna have to try this out.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'm try'n try that. She walks
Speaker 1: in the grocery store. You don't think that was like
Speaker 1: a performance piece, or if it is its performance art yet. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. She was trying to sell it. Maybe that's
Speaker 1: like part of her job. It was like to be
Speaker 1: that woman in the aisle of I mean, have you
Speaker 1: heard of this yogurt? Looks good, that's really good. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was any of that. I think it
Speaker 1: was somebody who worked there. I've never seen or heard
Speaker 1: of yogurt seeing it for the first time, genuinely shook
Speaker 1: by the contents of yogurt, doesn't know where it is
Speaker 1: in the grocery store. Oh where did you get that? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I get this day and that's all the video is, right,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, you're literally retelling of that. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: forty seconds long. Pre TikTok, pre Instagram, bade, previne, Brian
Speaker 1: sitting on the couch, Marla at the fridge taking out
Speaker 1: an empty fridge, taking out a yogurt, going what is there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the same, exactly the same exact thing. I just
Speaker 1: want to say, yeah, Okay. So our friend, who I
Speaker 1: won't name because I don't want to put them on blast,
Speaker 1: this reminds me of a story that she told where
Speaker 1: she was at a party with Cape Lanchat. She was
Speaker 1: at a house party with Cape Blanchet. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking. So our friend is in the kitchen by herself,
Speaker 1: like making a drink by herself. The door blows, hoping
Speaker 1: Kate Blanchet Academy Award winner Cape Lanchat Lydia Tar pre
Speaker 1: Tar coming out but earlier last year, storms up to her,
Speaker 1: gets very close to her face and goes, do you
Speaker 1: know what this is? And holds up a bottle. It's
Speaker 1: a bottle of vermouth, and our friend says it's vermouth,
Speaker 1: and Cape Blanchet says, but how do you know that
Speaker 1: what And our friend says, well, it says it on
Speaker 1: the bottle it says for amouth, and Cape Blanchet says, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't read that at all and leaves stop it.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think that that is such an
Speaker 1: active and even the person who checked out at the
Speaker 1: grocery store, that is like a beautiful acting exercise, even
Speaker 1: just a discovery of like, yeah, what is that? We
Speaker 1: would have learned that at acting how to discover? How
Speaker 1: to discover, discover honest discovery is what is that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And even that wasn't that good? But it's so hard
Speaker 1: to do, very hard. I'm a discovery first of all. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: so when you had graduated this school CCMD, CCM, c CCMD,
Speaker 1: like I can see like who would be really would
Speaker 1: be really good at the start of ccmd MD Hilary Duff, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, Hulu is on board. Yea. Um do
Speaker 1: you feel at the end of CCM you're like, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm ready, Oh my god. Absolutely we were trained to
Speaker 1: be musical theater, film bought robots. Assassins, assassins, assassins. I mean,
Speaker 1: did you feel the same way. I mean, I walked
Speaker 1: up being like, if I don't get a job in
Speaker 1: literally six months from now, yeah, I'm going to SOS,
Speaker 1: which I thought was shoot on site. I thought shoot
Speaker 1: on site. Here I am choosing violence. Literally, yeah, honestly, wait,
Speaker 1: that is shoot on site. No, it is save our ship.
Speaker 1: We have to get so much better. Can you confirm Google?
Speaker 1: Please confirm whether or not, and then not shoot on
Speaker 1: site because it will be so me to be like
Speaker 1: so strong and wrong positive that it save our ship.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden we find out it's
Speaker 1: shoot on site. That was the internal voice literally saying
Speaker 1: word for word, if I don't get a job in
Speaker 1: six months, I'm gonna ask. Yeah, I'm literally ann ss okaya. Wow.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm so glad it's not shoot on site. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine me too, because that's just not energetic. No, no,
Speaker 1: it's violence. But we came out as violent musical theater robot. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ready to take over New York by storm. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we were primed to do so. I mean, but the
Speaker 1: colors of the wind thing is a perfect example of
Speaker 1: like someone singing that. No, it's not even singing badly,
Speaker 1: it's Josh Sharperd Aaron Jackson explain it perfectly. It's the
Speaker 1: game of this is she makes a choice. Every choice
Speaker 1: is the wrong one. Yes, yes, and that is perfect.
Speaker 1: It's a perfect comedy piece in that way. What I
Speaker 1: love about it so much. To be honest, I think
Speaker 1: it's the best work I have ever done in my
Speaker 1: entire life career right now, every night technique off. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. But I do think that it was
Speaker 1: the best work because this was pre I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: dating myself, but this was pre everything, pre YouTube. So
Speaker 1: this became viral by people emailing to a yeah, and
Speaker 1: then it was like a sasquatch kind of like who
Speaker 1: is this woman? So then people thought people thought that
Speaker 1: it was a real forty plus middle aged woman that
Speaker 1: was doing it. Yeah, forty plus, which l I'm pushing
Speaker 1: that now, but it was a forty plus woman auditioning
Speaker 1: for like Disney cruise lines. So when I started working
Speaker 1: at Ellen starred us diner, you dropped you worked at
Speaker 1: a diner earlier star Yeah, yeah, oh my god, Ellen
Speaker 1: worked there. And so someone one day came up to
Speaker 1: me and was like, have you heard this woman? This
Speaker 1: forty plus yr old woman auditioning And I was like,
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, but that did.
Speaker 1: This is amazing. I'm not a little girl who so
Speaker 1: then what what did she turn to hand? Like? She
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm in the presence of
Speaker 1: the yah. She was working. It was she turned a
Speaker 1: hand and then they would people would make me because
Speaker 1: you have to wake up. You have to start singing
Speaker 1: at seven in the morning, like it's like they god,
Speaker 1: So like on the morning shifts, I would sing Colors
Speaker 1: of the Wind as that voice, and the tourist would
Speaker 1: be like, what in the actual hell is going Listen,
Speaker 1: we're some eggs and some Broadway adjacent vocals. What is
Speaker 1: this guard back? Yes, that's exactly what it was. Oh
Speaker 1: my god. But Colors of the Wind truly is everyone.
Speaker 1: You must watch it, yeah, because we're I think we're
Speaker 1: the last people who've seen this. You definitely are. And
Speaker 1: we watched it too. Watch it isn't that weird. We
Speaker 1: had never seen it, and like all the entire Fire
Speaker 1: Island Pines house that we were with, like was well
Speaker 1: versed in it, and they're like, oh, wait here she
Speaker 1: goes yeah. Yeah, by the way, And because we were
Speaker 1: exposed to that, I was so on board immediately with
Speaker 1: everything about it. They were like, well, you have to
Speaker 1: go see Tight Tanique, and then I am. And then
Speaker 1: I showed up in the front row. Yes, I bought
Speaker 1: my tickets to Tight Tanique that moment, honestly shout out.
Speaker 1: And then like I got back and I saw it
Speaker 1: Tide Tchanique, and I turned to my sister metaphorically because
Speaker 1: I don't believe it was physically in the presence, but
Speaker 1: I texted you and I was like, you gotta get
Speaker 1: down here, yeah, because I knew it would hit hard
Speaker 1: with you. And then I went on to day techs
Speaker 1: right away. Wow. And then Matt and I went I
Speaker 1: was like matching together and with me, and then it
Speaker 1: was the hardest I've ever laughed. We were screaming. I am.
Speaker 1: So you don't understand how much that means to me,
Speaker 1: because I consider you two to be like some of
Speaker 1: the funniest people I've ever seen, So for you to
Speaker 1: say that it was the best time, I will never
Speaker 1: forget it. I feel stupid that I've only seen it twice.
Speaker 1: But then I honestly, okay, So what happened was my
Speaker 1: parents had come in. I think maybe it was for
Speaker 1: the fire Island premiere or something something was happening and
Speaker 1: they were in town and I was like, I think
Speaker 1: I have to take them to a matinee. But then
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna buy
Speaker 1: you guys tickets because I feel like if I go again,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like no, Like you can't be back
Speaker 1: the third time this soon you can. What's crazy? I
Speaker 1: was telling Bowen, it's like a gay football game. There
Speaker 1: was a little guy in there was some very enthusiast
Speaker 1: stick a fan in the front right the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like when we were all doing the thing along
Speaker 1: at the end, he was like, great job. I've seen
Speaker 1: this fifteen times. It's like it's like Rocky Hart. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I said that, Yeah, yeah, it's been It's been crazy
Speaker 1: because you're never going to see the same show twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because when I did, I did musical theater for like
Speaker 1: a decade before. I was telling Bowen this before the
Speaker 1: show before, I was like, I can't do this anymore.
Speaker 1: I gotta get out right. You do the same thing
Speaker 1: in musical theater eight times a week. It's too much.
Speaker 1: And so now we have this beautiful part where I
Speaker 1: get to improv and do whatever the hell I want.
Speaker 1: And because it's so balls to the wall insane, people
Speaker 1: never know. But you're never going to get the same
Speaker 1: show twice. Yeah, that's so funny. I was talking to
Speaker 1: John Riddle and he was saying the same thing, like
Speaker 1: he was very disillusioned with the musical theater of it all.
Speaker 1: Not to speak for him, but like, no, please, I
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like you don't really get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something that feels as alive as this
Speaker 1: correct and that is like before I saw that show,
Speaker 1: I remember feeling like I saw Into the Woods and
Speaker 1: your show Titanique concurrently two nights in a row, and
Speaker 1: that was the first time I had felt really excited,
Speaker 1: like l was the pandemic, but I had seen other
Speaker 1: theater and I was just so I felt drained because
Speaker 1: I came in like really excited and wanting to experience
Speaker 1: it again, but everything was feeling really stale to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like you don't get the opportunity
Speaker 1: always to not only see but perform material that feels
Speaker 1: so fun and that the audience is really there with.
Speaker 1: And it did feel like a great marriage of like
Speaker 1: great Broadway caliber theater and you know, comedy, especially in
Speaker 1: that space, which was the old UCB at the time,
Speaker 1: you know, but it felt like that perfect marriage that
Speaker 1: honestly made me fall in love with the type of
Speaker 1: comedy I wanted to do, you know that we did
Speaker 1: back in the day because Bone and I did musical
Speaker 1: comedy kind of exclusively there for like a few years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: musical comedy is like the best kind of comedy, and
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you get it right, like it's
Speaker 1: there's nothing more transcendent than that. Yeah, it's like the
Speaker 1: art of singing combined with comedy. I mean, we always
Speaker 1: said of Ti Tanique, we were like, we wanted to
Speaker 1: be like a musical snl, Like we wanted to be
Speaker 1: like hard accomedy. Yeah. And I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that made is successful is that when we were
Speaker 1: doing it in Los Angeles, I moved out to LA
Speaker 1: I was like struggling writing for years, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to wind up at this other
Speaker 1: dinner theater where I'm going to perform while people are
Speaker 1: eating French fries and fish and red sauce, and and
Speaker 1: we wrote this and I think that I think the
Speaker 1: beauty of it is that we didn't have producers at
Speaker 1: the time, so we were like, let's just go ball
Speaker 1: to the wall, let's make each other laugh. What is
Speaker 1: funny to us? Right, and so it exceeded all of
Speaker 1: my expectations when we then took it to New York
Speaker 1: to be like is this funny or is this just
Speaker 1: like LA funny? Because you know there is a difference
Speaker 1: right there. Okay, so because you've said this, like is
Speaker 1: this just LA funny or is it also New York funny?
Speaker 1: Like do you have a sense of like what that
Speaker 1: difference is now? Or Well, when we were in Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: so we were doing all these movie to musical parodies
Speaker 1: in LA. So were with Constantine, That's where I reconnected
Speaker 1: with him. We were doing like Devil Worse product or
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Scream and LA loved it because there's no
Speaker 1: musical theater in Los Angeles, right, and so this was
Speaker 1: very It was a movie, so everyone from LA could
Speaker 1: get it because it's such a film based town and
Speaker 1: there was pop songs and it was kind of like
Speaker 1: ratchet and grungy, and so people loved it. But New
Speaker 1: York is completely different. Yes, there are jukebox musicals but
Speaker 1: like there's a high level of taste and you know
Speaker 1: what people are exactly. So when we were when we
Speaker 1: started doing Titanique in Los Angeles, I was like, maybe
Speaker 1: this could work in New York. But we all have
Speaker 1: absolutely no money, We're so poor. So I asked everyone
Speaker 1: to fly to New York on their own time, put
Speaker 1: themselves up do a week of readings in New York
Speaker 1: just to see if it was like worthwhile and if
Speaker 1: we could even sell it out. And we sold it out,
Speaker 1: and then in that week, David Foster's manager came, so
Speaker 1: then he got David Foster there, and Eve a Price,
Speaker 1: the Broadway producer, came and in like one week everyone
Speaker 1: it was like divine intervention, like the stars aligned. Everyone
Speaker 1: came on board and we really we made it a thing.
Speaker 1: So is it a thing? Where? Because I have had
Speaker 1: this question because you guys, like for those of you
Speaker 1: out there who haven't at this point at least googled
Speaker 1: it or didn't know already. It is a jukebox musical
Speaker 1: of Selene Dion's music, telling the story of Titanic as
Speaker 1: if it was from Selene Dion's perspective, if she was
Speaker 1: on the show. Correct it's completely unhinged, insane, and it
Speaker 1: was told by Selene Dion songs, So was there any
Speaker 1: like I guess David Foster coming as him being like, Okay,
Speaker 1: how are they using a lot of the songs that
Speaker 1: I've written, because he wrote and composed a lot of those.
Speaker 1: He wrote a lot of those. So what we had
Speaker 1: to do is we had a music lawyer come this
Speaker 1: is like Minutia, but we were doing it in these
Speaker 1: spaces that had like ascap licenses over all the songs,
Speaker 1: so we didn't have to buy the rights to the songs.
Speaker 1: But when this was becoming a professional thing, when we
Speaker 1: were going to do it in the theater, then we
Speaker 1: had to get a music lawyer, and so we did
Speaker 1: lose a couple of the songs. We lost all coming
Speaker 1: back to me now, I was wondering that was like
Speaker 1: the thing because that's Jim Steimon and that was written
Speaker 1: for meat Low. Yeah, we lost power of Love because
Speaker 1: Selene Dion didn't originally sing that. Wow, we lost that's
Speaker 1: the way it is to Anne Juliet, which is the
Speaker 1: their Max Martin, which, by the way, I did see Anguliet.
Speaker 1: I liked it very very much. I recommend everyone see
Speaker 1: and Juliette it's a blast. Yeah, it's a blast, just
Speaker 1: to give another shout out. And yet I never walked away.
Speaker 1: I never had the thought walking away from the show going.
Speaker 1: I wish they had sung like that handful of songs
Speaker 1: nothing hearing about it, because I cried coming back to
Speaker 1: me because that was the original way into the world.
Speaker 1: See what else do I remember? And yeah, So we
Speaker 1: had to change things, and we had to put Thankfully,
Speaker 1: she has so many iconic hits and they're all so
Speaker 1: theatrical that we could put anything in there and it
Speaker 1: would work. But we did have to do like some
Speaker 1: you know, jigsaw puzzles with with the songs in order
Speaker 1: to make it work, even the ones that feel more
Speaker 1: b side to say, like I rediscovered I Surrender Believe
Speaker 1: that's like maybe my top three songs. By the way,
Speaker 1: shout out Kelly Clarkson singing that un American idol for
Speaker 1: me first ever hearing that, Like she sang I Surrender
Speaker 1: and it was like the top four, and I was like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this song? It builds, build builds,
Speaker 1: It is really good. But that even like seduces, seduces,
Speaker 1: I didn't know if any of that, I considered myself
Speaker 1: like someone that knows Selene, but I was like, what
Speaker 1: is this? And then I was like, oh, it seduces me,
Speaker 1: which you don't think. Cut Deep Cut. We had The
Speaker 1: Show Must Go On, which was is that Freddie Mercury?
Speaker 1: We had that, and then we were like, oh, people
Speaker 1: are going to be too confused. Sure, sure, so, I
Speaker 1: mean all of the songs, the fact that we have
Speaker 1: cleared Beauty. We got Beauty in the Wild, I know,
Speaker 1: that's that's a wild card to me. We got River
Speaker 1: Deep and that's in Tina. Oh yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get that. Like, there are so
Speaker 1: many things that I'm shocked that we did get. And
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we were able to build a
Speaker 1: musical because essentially when we first started doing it, we
Speaker 1: just took the song totally. Yeah. Yeah, we were just like,
Speaker 1: let's do it for fun, not think it well. I mean,
Speaker 1: in the back of my head, I was like, wouldn't
Speaker 1: this be so fun if it like just became a thing.
Speaker 1: But you know that thinking that and then that becoming
Speaker 1: reality are like so separate and what it actually does happen.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's mind blowing. What's mind blowing is
Speaker 1: the bridge between now at being a huge hit and
Speaker 1: like the story you tell of like you and constantly
Speaker 1: just like after a show or at a bar or something,
Speaker 1: just being like him being like, what if it's like
Speaker 1: Titanic but told like but it's it's a juke box
Speaker 1: cling Dion music. But we were we were doing dinner
Speaker 1: theater in Los Angeles and it was like after like Scream,
Speaker 1: and we were like both like a little bit tipsy,
Speaker 1: and he's like, Okay, the next thing that we should
Speaker 1: do here is Titanic with all Celin Dion songs. It's
Speaker 1: one of those ideas that comes along and you're like,
Speaker 1: well that can possibly work. Yeah, the muse strikes. But
Speaker 1: because like Constantine l yeah, Star, yeah Star. Love him
Speaker 1: so funny and a really really nice Yeah, great guy.
Speaker 1: He says the same about you, by the way. I
Speaker 1: was like, give him my best. They love him so much.
Speaker 1: I adore him. Yeah, yeah, he feels the same. Well.
Speaker 1: When he told me that idea, I was like in
Speaker 1: my head, I was like cool, cool, cool, tight, never
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He was like, you'll be selin. I was
Speaker 1: like no, I won't. I was like this will never happen.
Speaker 1: And we're actors in Los Angeles. We can't get together
Speaker 1: for lunch, let alone write a musical. See you in
Speaker 1: five years. And but we started, We just started writing
Speaker 1: it for fun, it was, and we would write in
Speaker 1: Constantine's apartment on Monday, literally for fun. This whole thing
Speaker 1: was but all the best things. Yeah, and it can
Speaker 1: just be that it can and you forget, you forget
Speaker 1: that it can just be that it can just be
Speaker 1: jamming out. But at the time we were, I was
Speaker 1: like I had no money, completely unemployed, no prospects, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I guess I'll just and writing.
Speaker 1: I was writing so much, selling things, but making like
Speaker 1: no money, just like crumbs. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just do this thing and I'll just
Speaker 1: waste a bunch of time on this too. So the
Speaker 1: fact the fact that what is ironic to me after
Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles to be a writer, that I
Speaker 1: the only thing that I've ever gotten up off the
Speaker 1: ground is a musical when I left musical theater. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just so ironic. It finds you. Yeah, it's really,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're meant to do what you're meant to do.
Speaker 1: I think, yes, you know, you were at sea, and
Speaker 1: then this like you know this thing literally literally a yes,
Speaker 1: front runner, this is the thing that I want to
Speaker 1: bring up, and the thing about Titanique, and this is
Speaker 1: probably something that like I took this for granted, we
Speaker 1: write Iceberg, that sink the Titanic for U S and L.
Speaker 1: I was like, this will be whatever. Who cares like this.
Speaker 1: People might not get this, no, no, but we can.
Speaker 1: Very briefly I was like I was like, I was like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure like people might not get it whatever, And
Speaker 1: then the reception of it, I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: of course everyone's gonna get it. It's monoculture, but it
Speaker 1: is Titanic is like the ultimate monoculture to me, Like
Speaker 1: people all over the world know this front to back.
Speaker 1: People all over the world. No Selene Dion front to back.
Speaker 1: So it's like they're both Selene and Titanic the movie
Speaker 1: are both kind of doing the same thing separately and
Speaker 1: together where it's like this thing that people and that
Speaker 1: is universally known, appreciated and love. Everyone can put themselves
Speaker 1: into it. I have I have Titanic material too. It's
Speaker 1: real it's really, it's really In fact, my first screen
Speaker 1: test for SNL, I did a Titanic bit, which was
Speaker 1: this gay guy on the Titanic while it's friends, they
Speaker 1: should not have booked this cruise, oh he wanted, which
Speaker 1: had enough lifeboats and also much better nightlife. That's really good,
Speaker 1: and so like he's like the Titanic is literally sinking
Speaker 1: and he's so cold. We have one line that's like,
Speaker 1: because we all own tech styles, we have the money.
Speaker 1: I don't know why were and because they're in third
Speaker 1: class because they heard that's where the hot guys were.
Speaker 1: That's really good. What I love about Titanic and Celindon
Speaker 1: is that is a ven diagram of both like yes,
Speaker 1: heteronormative yes yes, and complete camp homosexual cause as well,
Speaker 1: right yes, And so that's why I think it really
Speaker 1: touches the lives of truly everybody, everybody. And it was
Speaker 1: before a time when people were like questioning whether or
Speaker 1: not that was okay. It was just because it was
Speaker 1: monoculture and it was everyone. The gays were seeing it
Speaker 1: and getting the camp of it. Yeah. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone will ever forget where they were when
Speaker 1: she turned around in that fucking hat had already been born.
Speaker 1: She's already an ostagronominee at the point, like people knew
Speaker 1: who she was. That was a superstar moment. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Notice I say nothing about Leo and but because because
Speaker 1: we're gays, it is about her, and it's about the
Speaker 1: song and it's about all that, and it's a little
Speaker 1: bit about twink Leo. Yeah, but not really for the straights.
Speaker 1: Leo took over the culture in such a huge aggressive
Speaker 1: way that like in your queer brain you're like, okay,
Speaker 1: but what's the other thing? Yeah, like, what's fringe from? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's the hat. It's the hat, and it's the course.
Speaker 1: It's seen, Oh my god, the Corse, It's seen the
Speaker 1: best scene. It was also all of our sexual awakenings,
Speaker 1: because I feel like we're all kind of within the
Speaker 1: same age and so I just feel like it's like
Speaker 1: nineties nostalgia camp straight. It's everything everything, It's Jamie Lee,
Speaker 1: it is all of us. Oh my god. By the way, readers,
Speaker 1: we did fully get into the art on the last episode.
Speaker 1: At this point, we're probably done talking about it, but
Speaker 1: we will never be done talking about Oh my god, Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't say anything that no one else We were
Speaker 1: more commenting on like cringe culture, which is my culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I learned when that happened. I was like,
Speaker 1: I live for cringe culture. That is defining culture for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is it. Yeah, well, I mean the number one
Speaker 1: moment in culture history on the on our top two
Speaker 1: hundred moments of culture is a same It's the most
Speaker 1: euphoric moment of all time. Yeah, yeah, which isn't even
Speaker 1: quite cringe. It's just like impacted everyone in the exact
Speaker 1: same way. It is pure star Tonin to think about,
Speaker 1: like that moment, I'll never forget. I was sitting in
Speaker 1: my living room with a Manish I will never forget.
Speaker 1: To never forget. I was sitting in a living room
Speaker 1: in Parks Up with Manishackman and he came out and
Speaker 1: I thought the joke was, oh, John Travolta is sort
Speaker 1: of giving their hesitation for this like iconic gay song.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is already funny to me. And
Speaker 1: then when he said Adela Ziem, I just screamed. And
Speaker 1: then when they cut to Adena, oh that face terror terror,
Speaker 1: and you know she already was feeling shook about having
Speaker 1: to sing it in the first place, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Second place, that was defining cringe cold. I mean for me,
Speaker 1: it's like knowing that she has to sing this really
Speaker 1: difficult song she has struggled with live was it let
Speaker 1: it go? Let it go. That's a tough one, and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like just appearing as he did and singing,
Speaker 1: and del does see that a little with the confidence.
Speaker 1: It's the confidence that yeah, I'm sorry. This goes to
Speaker 1: what you were asking me, like, what is defining culture
Speaker 1: for you? And I thought long and hard about it,
Speaker 1: and OK, let's go into it. Just it's a great segue, please,
Speaker 1: because I never even realized the term cringe culture. But
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm going to go back to like watching
Speaker 1: old reality TV shows. When it first came out, there
Speaker 1: was a show called Hey Paula, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you show yeah, when she is asked to choreograph the
Speaker 1: Bratstall to a movie and the pen ultimate episode is
Speaker 1: that it falls apart and she's no longer going to
Speaker 1: be on it and she starts crying as if her dog,
Speaker 1: her town, her family has been stabbed, murdered, and burnt
Speaker 1: to a crisp. And that to me was That's when
Speaker 1: I knew that something was wrong inside of me because
Speaker 1: it was so cringe e and so that it just
Speaker 1: brings it full circle. Yeah. I that was the defining
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, I am obsessed with cringe culture. Wow,
Speaker 1: show Girls, Antelbassetted, the thing, all of that. I cannot
Speaker 1: get enough. I know where you're a fan of the Office. No, okay,
Speaker 1: so so that what is that cringe culture though? Because
Speaker 1: that's like, yes, so maybe you'd love the television. I
Speaker 1: probably would. Sometimes it makes me so uncomfortable that I
Speaker 1: can't watch things right. But when things are delivered with
Speaker 1: such confidence right, it's like it's like a glitch in
Speaker 1: my patriot. It's like I explode inside the ultimate sort
Speaker 1: of comedy. Sorry, not getting I'm getting a little academic.
Speaker 1: Is like I always think of it as like there's
Speaker 1: an error and stimulus, something is being you're being stimulated
Speaker 1: by something that is wrong, yes, And some people can
Speaker 1: really withstand that, and some people really can't, can't even
Speaker 1: watch it, can't even be in the room, like cringe
Speaker 1: culture drives them up the wall. But then some people
Speaker 1: spin the cringe culture like I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen Elizabeth Berkeley on Instagram. She's come out with a
Speaker 1: whole new line of merch I know a lot about
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Berkeley on Instagram too. Yeah, she's released a new
Speaker 1: line of hats that say like verses and all these things,
Speaker 1: and she's really really taking it to the next level.
Speaker 1: When you know, like when this came out, when show
Speaker 1: Girls came out, and I'm sure that she if there
Speaker 1: was a Twitter, she would have deleted it so early
Speaker 1: to Ariana, do you know what I mean? But now
Speaker 1: she's just like again, she's like, it's a receive us
Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, I receive that. I'm taking it.
Speaker 1: I'm turning it into something beautiful. Yes, and honestly, like
Speaker 1: what I will commend if not Arianna the most, then
Speaker 1: at least her team about is the very quick pivot too.
Speaker 1: It is funny, yeah you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: because but they didn't think good. It's like what Diana
Speaker 1: did when Diana came out, being like it is campy. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it is campy. It's like did you did we all
Speaker 1: think I don't think that that's intention. I think it's
Speaker 1: played as seriously as possible. And then when we all
Speaker 1: start to catch on and it becomes meme culture and
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, okay, this is actually what it is,
Speaker 1: right see, and like at least there's an element of
Speaker 1: it that can be celebrated in this way, whereas other
Speaker 1: things when they're just bad, like you almost wish they
Speaker 1: leaned into like a kid. Yeah, cringe moment. Like correct,
Speaker 1: I'll say it, like think is why not I did
Speaker 1: see Bat Cinderella. Oh my god, I want to see
Speaker 1: it so badly. It reminds me of Wonderland. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did see it. Um. I saw actually the second night
Speaker 1: it was on. I really wanted to go the first
Speaker 1: night because I wanted to be on the ground. One
Speaker 1: talk about wanting to do shrooms and seeing anything. For me,
Speaker 1: it's that it's Bat Cinderella. I don't know. And you
Speaker 1: know what all I had was like a dirty Shirley
Speaker 1: and it really should have been more shrooms. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I will say this, like, okay, go off. And if
Speaker 1: this this has nothing to do with any performer in
Speaker 1: the show. They all really are great and committed and
Speaker 1: I love Grace McLean and like I love Carolee Carmelo
Speaker 1: and they're star and everyone's so good. It's just like
Speaker 1: Andrew Lloyd Weber at his most like limp. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's just like you've heard all these like messes of
Speaker 1: notes together before and like and the story really doesn't
Speaker 1: go anywhere interesting. And I feel bad because like, so
Speaker 1: would you call it camp? I actually wouldn't, And I
Speaker 1: almost think I think they're trying for camp, and I
Speaker 1: think the performers want it to be camp, but the
Speaker 1: material is just not really camp because I don't believe
Speaker 1: it was written with the intention of bad and this
Speaker 1: is the thing and that is camp right in the
Speaker 1: conversation of about camp, which is like I think like
Speaker 1: has been especially relevant since like that Matt Gala year.
Speaker 1: Yeah yea so perfect example is Celene Right. It's like
Speaker 1: something that is executed in bad taste but presented with
Speaker 1: the confidence of it being good taste. Right, That is
Speaker 1: I think what is pretty fundamental. And so Angela Bassett
Speaker 1: did the thing. It was it was like a performance
Speaker 1: of like this is good. Yeah no, it was not
Speaker 1: meant to be this correct. It is not aware of
Speaker 1: it being bad. And and bat Cinderella, it sounds like
Speaker 1: they're trying to like it's the cycle now is very
Speaker 1: short between like putting something out there and then quickly
Speaker 1: course correcting, meaning like oh, actually no, we we we
Speaker 1: meant for this to be right a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: it's not camp. It's just not very good. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the performers are maybe even trying to and
Speaker 1: really almost succeeding and like fooling the audience into thinking
Speaker 1: that like it's camp. But but their performances are also good. Right,
Speaker 1: it's just like a good performance of bad material. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that that's not camp. What is, honestly, and I
Speaker 1: would say what is camps? Like Colors of the Wind, Marla,
Speaker 1: what the kids doing? Pattycake? It's the ball's bouncing up
Speaker 1: and down. That's literally it's literally like this is yeah bad,
Speaker 1: and it's us pretending on stage that it's good. And
Speaker 1: then you fool people at Allen starters being like who
Speaker 1: is this woman? Who example yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,
Speaker 1: I am camp? I am yea say it? I mean
Speaker 1: is like tique is high camp? It's camp because like
Speaker 1: you know, just even the way, like the way that
Speaker 1: you sing certain notes, like people wouldn't do that because
Speaker 1: they wouldn't because it's not written to do that, but
Speaker 1: you do it. And we understand it's a reference to Selene,
Speaker 1: but also like an intentional heightening of the moment and
Speaker 1: a blowing out of it. Also just like the anachronisms everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the fact that it's like and Selene Dion was of
Speaker 1: course on the ship. You know that's wrong. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just not true. And so that
Speaker 1: to me is like falls under the definition and knows itself. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one must know thyself.
Speaker 1: It's actually culture number fifty nine, one must know thyself.
Speaker 1: The Oracle and the matrix. I believe it was the
Speaker 1: Oracle that said that. First. Okay, this is random, and
Speaker 1: I just want to touch on it briefly. Do you
Speaker 1: did you ever see Andrew Lloyd Webber DJ with Countess Luan.
Speaker 1: That's that is like the ultimate meme? Yes, yes, okay, great,
Speaker 1: I just want to I mean, that is that is
Speaker 1: like a moment that is like, oh, that's fun, Like
Speaker 1: he must know what this image is. Maybe he doesn't
Speaker 1: mean maybe, But the thing is I'm confused about Andrew
Speaker 1: Lloyd Webber, you know what I mean. I'm confused about it,
Speaker 1: and like maybe it's I just never meant to get
Speaker 1: it and won't get it. But like him posing with
Speaker 1: the Countess. Here's the thing about the Countess. The Countess
Speaker 1: does not camp because the Countess goes out there and
Speaker 1: is like every time they drag her on like real house,
Speaker 1: is that a reunion or something for being a bad singer,
Speaker 1: she gets really hurt and offended, and it's like, so
Speaker 1: you don't know that you're not great, and she'll say
Speaker 1: things like I mean, I'm not Whitney Houston but she's
Speaker 1: and it's like no, no, no, you you cannot sing,
Speaker 1: and and that's okay. Like I went to the show.
Speaker 1: I had an amazing time. I said this after I
Speaker 1: saw Countess. She is a star. Yes, she holds the
Speaker 1: room right love, but even when she gets vomited on
Speaker 1: right like that moment and that no there is video, No,
Speaker 1: I actually have severe vomit phobia. So I'm so you
Speaker 1: wouldn't have liked me in Sydney. I threw up in
Speaker 1: an uber at thirty three my last day. You got
Speaker 1: so drunk. I was so drunk and like jet last
Speaker 1: and also like I'm doing great now, but it wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't my best month of my life. And so
Speaker 1: like I sort of went for it. One night in Sydney.
Speaker 1: I was rotating Margarita's espresso martinis and I'm telling you, mad,
Speaker 1: this poor uber drive in Sydney, like I swear to god,
Speaker 1: I've never been so humiliated in my life. And then
Speaker 1: especially me walking in shirtless because I ruined a great
Speaker 1: tank talk to my hotel and they say, sir, you
Speaker 1: can't come in here like that. And I turned to
Speaker 1: them and I do remember this. I said these words verbatim.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't want to be like this.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is write that. But yeah, ruined,
Speaker 1: ruined at least that man's night. But I did zell him.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is also so funny with me
Speaker 1: being like, do you have zell and the four hundred dollars? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's actually really so so sorry. Yeah yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: drunk and so sorry. My whole Sydney experience so drunk
Speaker 1: and so sorry. Oh my god. But like when in Sydney,
Speaker 1: when it truly I mean it's a drinking town, it was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they drink hard, oh my god, and they party untiled.
Speaker 1: Everything's open until like six or seven in the morning.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: a family. It was too wholesome when I went recently,
Speaker 1: but oh my god. In Melbourne there's a place called Pufftuff,
Speaker 1: which is it's like, oh, they have like a pop
Speaker 1: room on like Saturday nights. You go, you stay until
Speaker 1: like six or seven in the morning. It is incredible.
Speaker 1: It's like three stories of just music and dancing and
Speaker 1: people go off. Yeah. Yeah. Ty Sunderland was in World
Speaker 1: of course. Of course a lot people were down. There
Speaker 1: was a puffy It's so fun. Are you going out
Speaker 1: after shows? Never? I'm a zombie may rot. I call
Speaker 1: it rotting. I literally rot until the sunset and the
Speaker 1: night and then I do the show. That's so funny.
Speaker 1: I just talked to John Riddle who's on vacation, and
Speaker 1: he described what he was doing on vacation. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the perfect descript that's me on Sundays. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I cannot do anything. The first week, I was like,
Speaker 1: me and some of the other castmates were like, this
Speaker 1: is not going to be okay, we're here, this is
Speaker 1: going to be three months. You guys, we're going out.
Speaker 1: We're living our lives. We're not getting stuck into the
Speaker 1: routine of doing hows. A week and going home and
Speaker 1: doing nothing. Literally, I'm out for a week. I go
Speaker 1: out for one drink. I get COVID. A week and
Speaker 1: half into the show. Oh my god, this Joe closes
Speaker 1: because I give it to five of my cast members
Speaker 1: and I am literally it's now eight months and I
Speaker 1: have never recovered. I do nothing. I cannot go because
Speaker 1: I was going to ask like that has to be hard.
Speaker 1: The show's hard. The music is hard. It is the
Speaker 1: most even for you. You're an amazing son that's getting
Speaker 1: lost like you are in life. Thank you, please go
Speaker 1: let that. Yeah, thank you. This is more. This is
Speaker 1: actually harder and more than Sistruct Suspect I thought was
Speaker 1: the hardest singing. Well, I mean the nuns and Sistract
Speaker 1: had to like scure out to the heavens including me, right,
Speaker 1: But this is even harder and higher and like you know,
Speaker 1: the riffier than that. But it's not so much the singing.
Speaker 1: It's just the energy that's Selene because you have to
Speaker 1: bring you're inhabiting her and you're doing the what you
Speaker 1: described as the impression is you're smelling a fart until
Speaker 1: you go yeah, oh my god. Somebody thought it okay,
Speaker 1: I think it was me. Yeah, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: The entire time. She's always in disbelief about something and
Speaker 1: she's always just like looking around. But that's discovery, discovering. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is you're You're in that for two hours. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I don't have any lines with any other cast members.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I I'm narrating the whole thing
Speaker 1: and so and my scene partner is the audience. So
Speaker 1: it's like so much energy and you're info dumping and
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's info wars. It's actually
Speaker 1: I want to know what is the what is the
Speaker 1: most fun song to sing that you guess the most
Speaker 1: excited about still, and what is the most difficult song
Speaker 1: that you get the most like trepidation. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: The first twenty minutes of the show, I want to
Speaker 1: ss myself. Oh my god. The first I'm Alive, which
Speaker 1: is the easiest song of hers to sing, and then
Speaker 1: Taking Chances, which is the highest song of hers to sing.
Speaker 1: The first time minute, yeah it is, I want to die.
Speaker 1: I am so nervous that I am shaking. And the
Speaker 1: first one every single show enter I enter, Oh my
Speaker 1: stage fright is I have musical theater mental illness, and
Speaker 1: I'm very open about that. I suffer from such horrible
Speaker 1: stage fright that I am like shook for the first
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Once I get through Because You Loved Me,
Speaker 1: which is in the second act, and then I have
Speaker 1: to sing the hardest songs, which are I Surrender and
Speaker 1: My Heart Will Go On. Those are a piece of cake,
Speaker 1: but I have to get through. Oh, also the bridge
Speaker 1: of to Love You More, you know, when it is
Speaker 1: so high. Yeah, they're all they're actually all so so
Speaker 1: not for nothing. But whoever is singing, I think it's
Speaker 1: the Barber track is maybe I thought it was Kathy Age,
Speaker 1: but now I sing that top part hard that whenever
Speaker 1: we're like lip sinking it, which happens a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I always like this. Yeah it is cool cool. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like the sound has to go through your top of
Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, every one is singing from our show.
Speaker 1: We call it laser Cat. It's like here's here. Yeah
Speaker 1: my voice is in my third al. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's what you want. No, it's great, it's great. That's
Speaker 1: that's CCM that everyone's a laser cat rightings like this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, like I remember like when you grow up
Speaker 1: on like pop music, right and you're listening to like Celendon,
Speaker 1: who sounds that repose. It sounds like she is screaming belting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's just like a powerful sounds can make. But
Speaker 1: it's so easy. And then you go to like see
Speaker 1: live theater and everything. I remember like when I first
Speaker 1: saw like Wicked, it was like it had to be
Speaker 1: lament cast. I was like sixteen years old and the
Speaker 1: alphabet insulted us when she literally went like I saw
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday matinee and it was it was so
Speaker 1: limp dick. It was bring me down. When I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was so like I was like ready to soss
Speaker 1: in that moment and so but I was just like yeah,
Speaker 1: but I guess like you do have to have those
Speaker 1: moments where you're like, sorry, y'all, I'm healthy right now.
Speaker 1: A few experiencing it on my tour, like it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to be hard and if you
Speaker 1: can't do it, if I am not feeling at least nine,
Speaker 1: well then I can't do the show. Like you can't
Speaker 1: be sick, no, because if I was, I would rather
Speaker 1: I would sos myself on stage. I would call out
Speaker 1: of the show. If I had to go at the
Speaker 1: end of my kid, Yeah, like that is just that's
Speaker 1: a crime. You can't arrest, you know what the stuff.
Speaker 1: Someone could come to me on the street and punge
Speaker 1: me in the face and I could sue and I can't.
Speaker 1: I have no course of legal action for what happened,
Speaker 1: which is worse. That is awful, Like I have no
Speaker 1: there's no I've met with lawyers. I'm like that, what
Speaker 1: can I do? Because part of me was like, if
Speaker 1: I knew any better, if I was like demand game now,
Speaker 1: I might have marched to the box office. And for
Speaker 1: what she just Also, it was the funny for Stephanie J.
Speaker 1: It so I didn't even get Stephanie J. Get Stephanie
Speaker 1: J into the woods. But she was great. The understudy
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Stephanie J is like me, that's like the
Speaker 1: pinnacle for me. Yeah, she's like the pen ultimate come on,
Speaker 1: And I mean, so get this the greatest voice. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Stephanie J. Block and Annalie Ashford,
Speaker 1: and we got Annalie Ashford who was stunning. Yeah, and Tuesday,
Speaker 1: I'm going to know for um and I'm going to
Speaker 1: see Sweeney on Tuesday. Good I heard that it's Annelie's show.
Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait. I'm so jealous of the
Speaker 1: amount of theater that you see. This just buys. Every
Speaker 1: day I get stoned and I just buy tickets. So
Speaker 1: tonight I'm seeing Jessica Chastain In's House. Tomorrow, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd. Wednesday, I'm seeing Ben in Parade. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Camelot with and then oh Saturday, and before
Speaker 1: I go SNL, I'm gonna see Betty who oh. And
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go to SNL starring Bow and Yang
Speaker 1: with host. Oh my god, he's got a good week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting birthday week. Yeah. Well this is why I mean
Speaker 1: like whenever I I mean whatever, I but like, I've
Speaker 1: gone through some things and so I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, how do I get out there and
Speaker 1: be busy and do things I enjoy? And it's theater
Speaker 1: for me, Like I love. I'm telling you. Like when
Speaker 1: I saw Tight Tanique, it did something to my spirit. Yea,
Speaker 1: it really did like defined my summer. Seeing that show.
Speaker 1: I was like this all like is coming into view,
Speaker 1: Like it was like it was amazing and we wore
Speaker 1: our hats. It was like a ten pole in time
Speaker 1: for me, Like I remember that summer. I'll think about
Speaker 1: that summer. I'll be like, oh, Fire Island came out
Speaker 1: and we went to go see Titanique. Yeah my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: like those are the things from that summer for ye Tique.
Speaker 1: And also we were so busy that to then like
Speaker 1: have a moment where we just like literally enjoy ourselves.
Speaker 1: And also I will say to be in that space
Speaker 1: felt so cool. And now you can't go to the
Speaker 1: theater anymore. But I was like, Wow, they really found
Speaker 1: a way to use this space for the power that
Speaker 1: it has, which was I always felt like the reason
Speaker 1: why it created such great actors when when UCB was
Speaker 1: occupying that space was because you could do something really
Speaker 1: small and they would feel it everywhere, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I used to go all the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I used to take improv classes, and
Speaker 1: when I actually did have a life, I would go
Speaker 1: from Cinderella to like go watch like a UCB show
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 1: R I p UCB. The only thing that happened that
Speaker 1: was shitty to us is when Gristiti's closed before UCB did.
Speaker 1: All the rats came down to the Yeah. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: that little hallway. Oh yeah, that was wretched hall Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where our dressing rooms were, and we would have
Speaker 1: to pack up our set every single night. And so
Speaker 1: it was like us and the rats. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I mean talking about yeah, but I literally was about Cinderella.
Speaker 1: It was me and Okay. So then like you were
Speaker 1: you were done with that? Yeah, we were done. And
Speaker 1: then Daryl roth As is like amazing and beautiful and
Speaker 1: I do have a special announcement to share. Yes, we
Speaker 1: have been officially extended till September tenth. I complaining that's incredible.
Speaker 1: We just go on and on and on. Rose she is,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I just say something she Have
Speaker 1: you ever met her before? She is the kindest, loveliest person.
Speaker 1: Her voice is incredible, She's attaining, incredible dancer. She has
Speaker 1: been the most gracious, wonderful, humble person, such a beautiful
Speaker 1: addition to the castle. I cannot say enough great things
Speaker 1: about her. She is she's so so good and she
Speaker 1: is so grateful to be a part of it. And
Speaker 1: she was like this is like a new chapter for
Speaker 1: me doing theater, Like I didn't think I would do it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is your path right now.
Speaker 1: It's saying like do theater. So just like stay here
Speaker 1: and like have fun. Yes. I remember when when Rose
Speaker 1: won the Rusical Rue said to Rose, like it's just
Speaker 1: really amazing zing when you get to see people do
Speaker 1: what they were born. Yeah. Yeah, And I was like
Speaker 1: that's so real. I mean, like they do have such
Speaker 1: a powerful stage presence, and like you know the thing
Speaker 1: about like drag races, just because you get on that,
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily get the opportunity to main talent. And
Speaker 1: so like you know, of course, you know Rose being
Speaker 1: a finalist like got to do all these different types
Speaker 1: of challenges and stuff, but you don't necessarily know that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a season that's like heavily reliant on
Speaker 1: what your skill is and like to even make it
Speaker 1: that far, because you might flop into design challenge or
Speaker 1: a can challenge and not get to sing. It happens
Speaker 1: sometimes hard. You don't find out someone's really good at
Speaker 1: something until like after the show or like a second
Speaker 1: All Stars thing or whatever. You know. Monai Exchange. We
Speaker 1: didn't hear the opera sound until yeah, yeah. Are you
Speaker 1: watching Drag Race this season? Of course? Yeah, it's getting fun.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, now that like we're down to like the
Speaker 1: final seven, I'm like, okay, Like the narratives are very
Speaker 1: fun and I like that they're willing to be villains again. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mistress being mistress is giving twenty three year old energy.
Speaker 1: I love No, I know, I love it too. Of
Speaker 1: course you're twenty three. She's like she's twenty she's twenty three,
Speaker 1: or she's like twenty five young young girls makes me
Speaker 1: want to die. No, no, no, it's fun. But I
Speaker 1: like it's that like Zoomer millennial Cusp thing where she's
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be like chaotic. Yeah yeah yeah, which
Speaker 1: is like great, bring it back. It's gonna be. I
Speaker 1: mean like if the top three four is, I think
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be. I mean for me, when I
Speaker 1: saw that lip sync with Sashakle, Sasha Koby is win right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I meant fan in me. I am just watching her
Speaker 1: lip sync that amount of times and technically one one
Speaker 1: is like whoa, I mean that was a real I
Speaker 1: love the lip sync. Yeah, yeah, I love Sasha Kolby.
Speaker 1: I think that she is such a star, and I
Speaker 1: like that she's one of the older ones too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because now I feel so old watching drag Race with
Speaker 1: like the TikTok listen, okay, hot take. I love Sugar
Speaker 1: and Spice. I think that they're so beautiful. I want
Speaker 1: to if they were women, I would have sex with them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they're hot. They loved them loved, But I
Speaker 1: feel so old watching the show now. Sure, well, because
Speaker 1: I think the fifteen is kind of reminiscent of season seven,
Speaker 1: when it was like acknowledging the fact that they were
Speaker 1: like Instagram. Yeah, this is the first season acknowledge. Ye. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What's next? I don't know truly nothing nothing. I think
Speaker 1: nothing is next. I thinks I thinks soon. Oh man, no,
Speaker 1: I hope not no, no, no, no, not when I
Speaker 1: have this like Seison night, not seringer. Do you know
Speaker 1: about the era? No? What is that? It's you're in
Speaker 1: your flop era. You're flopping if you're like really evolved,
Speaker 1: if you're like operating it like power power, your charas
Speaker 1: are you're on your chard. Don't you know about Pokemon? No?
Speaker 1: Because if you know about Pokemon, she wouldn't sort of
Speaker 1: say char no, no, no, no, we're not making Wait,
Speaker 1: someone should, someone should create a charo Charo's ard like
Speaker 1: Charo as a as A as a char Yeah. So
Speaker 1: basically I think you're in your So I had a
Speaker 1: flap era. Well I don't don't know why does not
Speaker 1: imply a flap era, but it just means you're in
Speaker 1: like a great time. Yeah, okay, great, Yes, this is
Speaker 1: my Charos era. Yes, yes, yes, you said it. This
Speaker 1: is my Charos era, Taro's era. Yeah yeah, I like
Speaker 1: that in the dairy section what this is? But how
Speaker 1: do you know? I can't read that at all? That
Speaker 1: is so good? So do you not read? I think
Speaker 1: what was intuited was that she wasn't wearing her glasses, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? By the way, what if
Speaker 1: she couldn't read Eliah Michelle Parto? I mean, listen, Patrick
Speaker 1: Dempsey gets his script read to him because yes, every
Speaker 1: yeah right, just LEXI is real. So, so this is
Speaker 1: our last episode for the Oscars. Let's discuss watch nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Really, I've seen nothing. So you've
Speaker 1: not seen everything everywhere? Well I have seen that. Have
Speaker 1: you seen Tar? No? I have not, first of all,
Speaker 1: because everyone's like your tar and know what that means.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're like, you're giving tar vibes. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's not a compliment. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming it's not. What part of them that's kind of
Speaker 1: part of the conversation around Tar is like tar is
Speaker 1: tar iconica? Or is she okay but in an iconic way? Okay?
Speaker 1: But let's give final predictions. Is it Kate Planchet or
Speaker 1: Michelle yo Oh? I think it's Michelle. I think it's Michelle.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think everything. I think the Saguin
Speaker 1: is giving Michelle every Yeah, almost all the precursor she's won. No,
Speaker 1: Kate was on a roll of the Critics Awards. She
Speaker 1: won the Critics Choice Award, she won the Golden Well,
Speaker 1: they both won Golden But I think that the juice
Speaker 1: was with Kate and then Michelle winning the sag and
Speaker 1: then Michelle also winning the Indie Spirit Award for Best
Speaker 1: Lead Performance, which combines men and women, right right, because
Speaker 1: the gendered categories are sort of by the way. I'm
Speaker 1: curious to see when the Oscars do something with that,
Speaker 1: because it's gotta be coming. There's a campaign for it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing about the Tar thing is a lot of
Speaker 1: like the Mimi discourse around it is like are like
Speaker 1: jokes that she's like a real person and like Otar
Speaker 1: is gonna be on Sesame Street whatever you know, like um,
Speaker 1: And so I think that is kind of like a
Speaker 1: subliminal thing of like, oh, Cape Blanchet rendered this character
Speaker 1: so yes in such a way that like people performance
Speaker 1: genius performance that that people are like she's a real person.
Speaker 1: It's like slender Man, slender woman. But I think that, like,
Speaker 1: this is the way I feel about it. Is there
Speaker 1: such equally powerful iconic signature individual performances in the way
Speaker 1: that and the readers are hear me, hear me say
Speaker 1: this at nauseum. But my thing with the oscars is
Speaker 1: could anyone else have done it? Like? And then could
Speaker 1: anyone else have done it this well? And I feel
Speaker 1: like with both of them the answers, But for me,
Speaker 1: when it comes to Cape Blanchet, she's got so many
Speaker 1: wins and nominations already at that ceremony and in her
Speaker 1: future you can see that there's so many more nominations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think for Michelle Yo, this is her first nomination
Speaker 1: after the incredible career storied cinematic worldwide career that she
Speaker 1: has and I'm sorry, but in the current landscape of
Speaker 1: the way the film industry is, you don't know that
Speaker 1: she's going to get another opportunity to have this type
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's like for me, it's like I
Speaker 1: understand being a cape Planchet stand and I ride hard
Speaker 1: for Cape Planchet. I've said many times our greatest living actor,
Speaker 1: but you gotta give it to Michelle Yo. For me,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's for me, it's but we'll see so
Speaker 1: amazing the performance. It's so amazing the performance. A thing
Speaker 1: in her campaign has been I've waited my whole career
Speaker 1: for this script, yes, you know, And like I think
Speaker 1: she's like knowingly sort of putting out there that like
Speaker 1: I really gave this my all. This is i mean
Speaker 1: not not known. I think there's a huge second win
Speaker 1: for her, which is so exciting, but I just don't
Speaker 1: know that you can say, we see this opportunity to
Speaker 1: give this woman the best actress Oscar and we're not
Speaker 1: going to do it, like because there's an equally incredible performance,
Speaker 1: but for someone that already has won twice and likely
Speaker 1: because of the way that careers like hers go will
Speaker 1: have maybe even like I compared her career at this
Speaker 1: point in her life to Meryl Streep. Mertyle Streep has
Speaker 1: had many nominations since she was Cape Lynchet's age, and
Speaker 1: I would put them in the compartable conversation in terms
Speaker 1: of roles that they're going to play, and let it
Speaker 1: be known Cape Lynchet will be nominated for more Oscars,
Speaker 1: and I just think, don't waste this chance to give
Speaker 1: someone their flowers that has done so much, so incredibly
Speaker 1: well and means so much to so many people, Like
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a no brainer. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's a shoe and for Best Picture, because yes, I agree.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I haven't seen anything else, but it
Speaker 1: was truly one of the most revolutionary things and graphic
Speaker 1: it just masterpieces I've ever seen in my life. You
Speaker 1: know What's funny, Like I would personally give Michelle Best Actress.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Stephanie for Best support I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so cool, but she's an old friend of ours. She's incredible,
Speaker 1: And I would give Key Best Supporting Actor one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: And I think it's close for me between and Tar
Speaker 1: will not win Best Picture. But for me, my favorite
Speaker 1: movie of the year, it's very close. For me, Everything everywhere,
Speaker 1: all at once at Tar, like those are my two
Speaker 1: frolms of the year, the same those are my two
Speaker 1: favorite movies of the year. Everything Everyone all ons is
Speaker 1: like this amazing reinvention of a thing that's already felt
Speaker 1: like a stale trope in Hollywood, which is like multiverse movies. Yes,
Speaker 1: like and like even people at Marvel, Like I think
Speaker 1: I've heard through the grape vine people at Marvel being
Speaker 1: like they did it better, they did it better. And
Speaker 1: with Tar, I feel like it's an amazing movie. It's
Speaker 1: a great satire in a lot of ways. It's a
Speaker 1: fantasy about what cancel culture is because because like the
Speaker 1: way she ends up is not anything that actually happens,
Speaker 1: has happened to someone in the real world, right, you know,
Speaker 1: Like literally the ending of the movie is like so
Speaker 1: funny and shocking us, and you're supposed to be like that.
Speaker 1: That's that is like truly outland. I mean, I'm going
Speaker 1: off tonight. I'm off tonight. Yeah you watch Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm actually stopping by Ellen start Destiner after this and
Speaker 1: then wait to Eat. They do use my name. They do.
Speaker 1: Of course they do so excited. They have a bucket.
Speaker 1: They have a tip bucket on the hour, every hour
Speaker 1: that they go around and they get money from the
Speaker 1: tourists and the like, and then like we have success stories.
Speaker 1: Oh they made it Tenny themed Banana split Sunday, So
Speaker 1: take a picture. Are you going to sing a song?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Yeah, I'm off yeah, actually, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch tar. I'm gonna force Connie to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was Connie back from skiing. Yeah. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: lived together. Oh my god, non sexual life partner. Where's
Speaker 1: the pilot? Beautiful? Wait? And also I want to shout
Speaker 1: out Connie because the sort of first time I saw
Speaker 1: Connie perform was in Cruel Intentions to the musical, which
Speaker 1: does a very similar thing. Yeah, because our friend who
Speaker 1: I mentioned was swinging and she was on for the
Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller lead for like a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and so I saw her and Connie do that because
Speaker 1: he was the Ryan Philippi Yeah, yeah, part And what
Speaker 1: I love when she told me, which I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask him as cool if I share this, but he
Speaker 1: said that a lot of cast members of Cruel Intentions
Speaker 1: would come to the show, was just talking about this
Speaker 1: and and he said that Reese Witherspoon when she came,
Speaker 1: was like, I can't really look at you because you're
Speaker 1: might mean too much my ex husband and like actually
Speaker 1: was actually actually was like you were so great. I
Speaker 1: can't engage because I guess that was the movie where
Speaker 1: they met, so like it had to trigger her in
Speaker 1: like a crazy way. Tara Reid also came. Tary read
Speaker 1: of the iconic have you seen that video for me?
Speaker 1: I'm a hot in it? Hot in it, I'm popping it.
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. It is still she was like, wow, man,
Speaker 1: that was super awesome. Man. He played her as if
Speaker 1: she was like like a high frapp ro be, Like whoa, man,
Speaker 1: that was super awesome. Man. You're doing a good Oh
Speaker 1: really yeah, fashion fashion style. I'll take both and from
Speaker 1: something we have to move on. I think I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. So this is our big segment really
Speaker 1: where we take one minute to rail against something in
Speaker 1: culture that's shopping our fucking ass and not in the
Speaker 1: chars on we don't stand for it. I have something
Speaker 1: okay that I think people can relate to. I really do.
Speaker 1: Those are the best one relatability is clutch. Clutch a
Speaker 1: culture number fifty one relatability. This is Matt Rogers. I
Speaker 1: don't think Sony, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: when you change the name of the group thread, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to find you guys. And if you
Speaker 1: change the name of the group thread, like think because
Speaker 1: what of my search wards? Where are my girls? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, especially like you fifthy gays out
Speaker 1: there like trying to make your little jokes, like I
Speaker 1: don't know what's topic about the time. I'd have been
Speaker 1: busy that day. I didn't know that Angela Bassett did
Speaker 1: the thing is now the name of the group chatting
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But let me go get to that one
Speaker 1: on Twitter first, and then I can not it's the
Speaker 1: group chat. My favorite name of my gay group chat
Speaker 1: recently was women Talking. Oh, I wanted to be called
Speaker 1: women talking. I love when women talk and share information
Speaker 1: in a group chat, and that's how you move forward.
Speaker 1: But then the whole I don't think, so honey, when
Speaker 1: I go back second and it's some reference to something else.
Speaker 1: And for a while my gay group chat was having
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with the name Tar and then
Speaker 1: it was women tarking, and I don't think so, honey
Speaker 1: that we had to move on from that. Right now
Speaker 1: it's weather with the Tar Tar thing over the e.
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy as I like, that's crazy weather. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Yeah, that is very real. You
Speaker 1: cannot do that yet I'm about to really just give
Speaker 1: you a different flavor. Do you know this? I know this,
Speaker 1: and I think I know who is changing the names
Speaker 1: in your this group. Sometimes I change it too. Well,
Speaker 1: then you're oh, then you're just no, No, I can't
Speaker 1: guess it. If you can't try yourself, how are you
Speaker 1: gonna drag somebody else? Can I get a name in?
Speaker 1: But sometimes I do it. I like consistency, familiarity. I
Speaker 1: think we have a group chat that's been the same
Speaker 1: for a while a long time. Yeah, twink cores and
Speaker 1: now it's just three yeah, because there's there's vernacular whim.
Speaker 1: We had some bit one day in the chat of like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're all gonna cored a twin, we get cord, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get We're gonna get cord. Got it? It depends
Speaker 1: on what the sexual identity of the group chat at
Speaker 1: large is. For a while you were like we are
Speaker 1: the chord because we were bottoming a lot getting Cord out,
Speaker 1: and then then we were the thing. It's a sexual thing,
Speaker 1: it's a game thing. It's a sexual things to disgusting
Speaker 1: is disgusting. Yeah, and that's one of the rules of
Speaker 1: culture number two disgusting. Um. And then we have another
Speaker 1: group chat called the coop. The coop. There's a whole
Speaker 1: story there, but we're basically a chicken coop. Yes where
Speaker 1: you got were a coupe that hands and we cluck okay,
Speaker 1: love it. Know. Anytime we were about to meet up
Speaker 1: with it was like, can't wait to club music man,
Speaker 1: music man. Sometimes little talk a little Yeah, when you
Speaker 1: when you throw out the feed, that means you're sort
Speaker 1: of like seeing if the coop is going to come
Speaker 1: out that night. I love that hands. Do you know
Speaker 1: pluck can club? I support that being cord. I don't
Speaker 1: like that. It is upsetting, not in your back house.
Speaker 1: That is exactly what it is. I do identify as
Speaker 1: a gay man. That's exactly what it is. I knew that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I knew you were that girl, that girl I have one.
Speaker 1: I love when you have personal it's person myself and uh,
Speaker 1: we got someone listening to and it's too bowen yangs.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that is gonna happen is I'm gonna get my phone out.
Speaker 1: I hit the thing. But when Yang, your time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Uber driver in London
Speaker 1: who pulled up to the side before letting me out,
Speaker 1: he said, I have to show you something. I go
Speaker 1: what he goes, You're uber rating it's low. I said,
Speaker 1: what is it? Four point eight? I said that's low.
Speaker 1: He said that's very low. He's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: I was like, I have not vomited in a single car.
Speaker 1: I am quiet as a mouse. I'm not always on time.
Speaker 1: What could this possibly be? So Uber? I don't mean
Speaker 1: to be all called the manager right now, but talk
Speaker 1: to the manager right now. I'm a little Karen, but
Speaker 1: I need to make this right because this driver made
Speaker 1: it seem like I was seen truly like persona on
Speaker 1: Gratta in the streets of London, and I need to
Speaker 1: be taking these cars because you work there. I work
Speaker 1: there now, and that time the tube is really amazed
Speaker 1: and I don't really know how to navigate it that well,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's one minute. And that's what I meant.
Speaker 1: I would say, is it's crazy that you got dragged
Speaker 1: for a four point eight because after my experience in
Speaker 1: the Sydney I'm at a I'm at a four point six. Wow,
Speaker 1: but is that even low? Which means yes, I means
Speaker 1: he gave me like a zero yeah yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I mean the state of his car, and was like,
Speaker 1: let me get on this app all, let me dragund
Speaker 1: I don't care how much money they zelled. Oh my,
Speaker 1: but to be fair, like, no offense. You did deserve that.
Speaker 1: I really don't know what I could have done. I
Speaker 1: know what you did accumulate, but that happened to me.
Speaker 1: Someone was like, you recently got a low star rating.
Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me, I'm there. Literally at the
Speaker 1: second that they pull up, I say, hi, how are you?
Speaker 1: I don't say a fucking word, and they dropped them
Speaker 1: off as thank you so much. I always tipped them
Speaker 1: twenty percent five star ratings across the board. I was like,
Speaker 1: what did I do? And then you can't like go back.
Speaker 1: I mean, Conye isn't here to call you out because
Speaker 1: he probably observes your behavior. I observe your I've told
Speaker 1: you this before I walk into the street, not that
Speaker 1: it's the way you get into the car. You crawl
Speaker 1: on the seats. I'm not getting on dirty Bowen. They
Speaker 1: don't know that, and maybe you are. That's not gonna
Speaker 1: warrant like you listen to me, Readers, Readers reach out
Speaker 1: with what you think. But when you're getting readers, when
Speaker 1: you when you get they're the readers raiders. So listen readers.
Speaker 1: When you're getting into an uber, you go foot first
Speaker 1: and the foot hits the ground. Bowen Yang crawls knees
Speaker 1: first into the car. I've never seen anything like it.
Speaker 1: And yes, you do sort of like you are one
Speaker 1: to sort of really make yourselves known in the street
Speaker 1: like Bowen is. I wouldn't have no patience. There have
Speaker 1: been no incidents. There's no like moment. There's no moment
Speaker 1: where some driver could go, oh no, that's a demerit.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But but you're incorrect because
Speaker 1: you've been demerited and told by one of the dolls
Speaker 1: themselves you've done wrong. You can't call them. This is
Speaker 1: the fight of my life. I need to get this
Speaker 1: back up. Do you feel like you physically could change, Like,
Speaker 1: could you change? Could you on my first behavior? Not
Speaker 1: that I wasn't before, that's the fucking thing. I would
Speaker 1: get in trouble in school for not even doing well.
Speaker 1: I just this is like a triggering thing for me.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you guys were those kids
Speaker 1: in school would get in trouble for like teacher. I
Speaker 1: guess it would depend on the teacher. I felt like
Speaker 1: I got dinged a lot for like nothing, and I'd
Speaker 1: be like, there's literally like a kid doing drugs, like
Speaker 1: two desks. What are you doing? Those teachers are scared
Speaker 1: of that kid? Fuck? I mean, it's whatever you're going
Speaker 1: through it going through people need to. I think people
Speaker 1: get an Asian joy and they go, I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: of him. Oh my god, I'm bringing race into this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I get you would if you were. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you something. If I was not white, i'd
Speaker 1: bring race into yeah, And I'm bring right now, And
Speaker 1: that's your right anyway. I'm sorry, Thank you for following me. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're both so good. You're don't worry about it. It's
Speaker 1: not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that.
Speaker 1: You guys like that. It's really you don't need to
Speaker 1: say about I don't think so honey. Is I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try that. I'm gonna try that. Yeah, don't let me forget.
Speaker 1: Before we end the episode, I have to show you
Speaker 1: a video. I have to play something for the readers
Speaker 1: and us, all okay after Marles, I don't think, so
Speaker 1: honey before we sing the song and m okay, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: all right. This is Marla Mondell's I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: Her time starts now, okay. Mine is musical theater specific,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Hashtag first day of school?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, that's an
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I'm on Facebook, which also I don't think
Speaker 1: so honey. Any One that's on Facebook that's also an actor,
Speaker 1: which is all of my friends posts a picture of
Speaker 1: the script being like hashtag first day of school. I'm
Speaker 1: here to tell you musical theater is not school. I
Speaker 1: don't think, so honey. I went to school for musical theater. Basically,
Speaker 1: you get a degree in air. I have a certificate
Speaker 1: that says I can tap dance, and you know what,
Speaker 1: you can parlay tap dancing into I don't know, financial planning.
Speaker 1: I would go to school for anything else besides musical
Speaker 1: theater because you can probably make more working at the
Speaker 1: MTA than you can doing the regional production of Derby
Speaker 1: Dinners Playhouses Cats, which I did when I was twenty
Speaker 1: years old on pop Rownies the entire time, and I
Speaker 1: made three hundred dollars a week. Oh so basically, what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I don't want people to cancel musical theater,
Speaker 1: but I am asking everyone to cancel actors on Facebook,
Speaker 1: and I think we can do it. Th First, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say this, all actors too cool for Facebook. You're
Speaker 1: too cool for it. I obviously am not, no, and
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're too cool. Okay. Why do you
Speaker 1: find yourselves on that? Still? Okay? I find myself on
Speaker 1: it because honestly, Connie will drag me for this. We
Speaker 1: got an apartment. I was like, we're going to get
Speaker 1: everything on Facebook Marketplace. I'm not paying top I'm on
Speaker 1: Facebook Marketplace an hour every single day, looking up everything,
Speaker 1: asking hey is this available? And I never follow through whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't buy a fucking thing, So then I've done
Speaker 1: it for eight months. It should be a real course
Speaker 1: of action for no sum Literally, Suemy, take me off
Speaker 1: the platform. I don't deserve to be on there, Connie,
Speaker 1: platforms I should be. I should be. I'm only on
Speaker 1: for the marketplace. That's literally it but a sorry thing
Speaker 1: to be. And so you don't you don't need it,
Speaker 1: then I don't. You don't buy anything because I don't
Speaker 1: buy anything. But I'm always like, I want to get
Speaker 1: a deal. I see like John Riddle's apartment. It's beautiful,
Speaker 1: everything is, everything is like I got it on the
Speaker 1: marketplace for five dollars. I'm want to do this. I
Speaker 1: can do this. I forgot I forget that. The marketplace,
Speaker 1: it's like me, the first thing I look at, not Instagram,
Speaker 1: it's the marketplace. Oh look at this west elm Chaz
Speaker 1: for five hundred dollars. Maybe I should get it. I
Speaker 1: send it to Connie. I don't do anything about it.
Speaker 1: That's so healthy, that's so much healthier. That's healthier than
Speaker 1: Instagram though, Yeah, it is for sure, Oh so much healthier.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, forget it. The thing is listen what
Speaker 1: I want you to do when you buy one thing
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah, in the marketplace is actually, can you
Speaker 1: reach back out so that we can tell the readers
Speaker 1: did it and what you got? Yeah, and just tell
Speaker 1: what you got? Sign in a voicemail? Can you send
Speaker 1: in a voice memo? We should do We should try
Speaker 1: to do one episode while I'm still here. I know
Speaker 1: that you're about to be in full ast, so you
Speaker 1: probably can't. Maybe Thursday, maybe Friday, maybe maybe I'll be around. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: but I would like to do a culture catch up
Speaker 1: with just you if that's possible. Build it into your schedule,
Speaker 1: which already has no free time at all the way
Speaker 1: I demand. But I will make the space for you. Yes,
Speaker 1: But what I demand of you is you send in
Speaker 1: a voice memo describing what you bought and for how much? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and describe how the process. Yeah. Ultimately, I think it'll
Speaker 1: feel humiliating. I can say that right now. Just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: it's already humiliating, you know when you're always like will
Speaker 1: you accept one hundred and twenty five dollars for this
Speaker 1: instead of one hundred and fifty and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta steal I got. Really that's to me that
Speaker 1: basically I know, but it just makes me feel like
Speaker 1: ikey inside no, okay, okay, thank you part of it.
Speaker 1: You know what, you guys who helped me. I'm going
Speaker 1: on the marketplace right now. I'm getting this painting that
Speaker 1: if you're going to Allen Star you have an idea
Speaker 1: of what you want to do. Yes, yes, I have
Speaker 1: a painting. I want to get real art. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: been like my newest thing. We bought a shitty poster.
Speaker 1: It looks terrible in our apartment, and we bought something
Speaker 1: that we called Teal Wix, who's an actress. Basically, we
Speaker 1: got a Teal storage locker. Looks terrible in the apartment.
Speaker 1: We call it Teal Wicks. And I'm like, two Wicks
Speaker 1: has got to go with this poster and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a painting instead that I know that is my
Speaker 1: So you already know you can already mission shop. I'm
Speaker 1: going a mission shop. Amazing. So you're gonna go to
Speaker 1: Allen startus tonight. You're gonna take the picture of the
Speaker 1: watching you're going on fook Yeah, yeah, thank you with that.
Speaker 1: I have this, um this is the beginning of a
Speaker 1: porn of a gay porner. And you know sometimes they'll
Speaker 1: do like a scene in the beginning that's the best part.
Speaker 1: Let me set it out. Okay, So there's there's two
Speaker 1: gays on and one gay says to the other because
Speaker 1: it's kind of muffled because they're porn actors. They're not
Speaker 1: like good, They're not, he says. He says the sound
Speaker 1: on set was not iconic. A Jones the one gather
Speaker 1: have you seen this? Watch this? Okay? And then here
Speaker 1: we go, have you seen this clip? Watch all the way? Sorry,
Speaker 1: they're watching the clip. She's so funny, she's right up
Speaker 1: and then they started making out. God, can I say
Speaker 1: it has gotten to the point where gays really are
Speaker 1: trying to murder this woman. Yeah, and it is not
Speaker 1: just a line from Hiltis. We have to stop this behavior.
Speaker 1: I could cause specific people. You were killing her. We're
Speaker 1: making her into a gay meme and it's not going
Speaker 1: to sir her going forward, because now she's in this
Speaker 1: porn and these gays are acting badlier on her, and
Speaker 1: now people, what if she became best known for this?
Speaker 1: What it has the power? What you mustn't forget for
Speaker 1: some reason that the meme treatment of Jennifer Coolidge kind
Speaker 1: of takes something away from the fact that she's this
Speaker 1: like Groundlings legend, like comedic legend who has been on
Speaker 1: like every Christopher guest. To me, it's like show the
Speaker 1: woman some respect. It's like, it's you guys, it is
Speaker 1: so funny. I'm gonna reteet. I'm actually gonna retreat it
Speaker 1: from the account right now. Okay, I'm working it into
Speaker 1: sum It's it's beautiful and it's been posted by at
Speaker 1: computer underscore gay at computer underscore bore. His name is
Speaker 1: man Man. He posted on a March fourth. I've retweeted it.
Speaker 1: By the way, one of them. They're both like Twinky,
Speaker 1: one of them wearing a smiley faced T shirt. There's
Speaker 1: like a lower third where the video pops up and
Speaker 1: you see the Jennifer Coolidge scene, which it has to
Speaker 1: be illegal. Picture and picture and picture. I so and
Speaker 1: so then the gays watch it, and the one gay
Speaker 1: says to the other she's right, and then they I guess,
Speaker 1: And now I am curious about watching the rest of it.
Speaker 1: I mean it got my attention. Yeah, of course for
Speaker 1: a gay man to say to watch it Jennifer Coolidge
Speaker 1: clipp and go, she's so funny, is really like and
Speaker 1: they thought, you know how, so you know how we're
Speaker 1: gonna get our porn out to go viral. We involved
Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge and god damn it, they did, and we
Speaker 1: just helped. Yeah, yeah, you're right, we just signal boosted. Well,
Speaker 1: this was a phenomenal episode. Oh oh my god, there
Speaker 1: so much for having me. I don't deserve to be here.
Speaker 1: That's not really stop that That's how I feel. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm staring struck. We were, we are so excited. When
Speaker 1: I first wanted to go see the show and I
Speaker 1: sat in the front row, you came right over to
Speaker 1: me and like looked at me, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this must be the seat of the person that she
Speaker 1: looks at. She must do this. And then afterwards I
Speaker 1: calp to you and she I was like, we've never met, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. If you said I know who
Speaker 1: you are, and I was like, there's no way, because
Speaker 1: you are. You are an idol to us, but you
Speaker 1: are simply iconic to me. Nica Jones Simpson and Iconica
Speaker 1: Boninawn Oh my god, I mean you gotta see tight tiny.
Speaker 1: It's now extended through September September tenth, September ten. There's
Speaker 1: another one after that. But I would not be surprised,
Speaker 1: I guess. But you you have to probably be the
Speaker 1: one to end it, right, You're probably gonna be the
Speaker 1: one that has to call it because you are Selene.
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll listen at this rate. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: like Hamilton, do you know what I mean? Like, they'll
Speaker 1: be like Australian Selene's. They'll be like, are you eligible
Speaker 1: for any awards for this? I think I might be
Speaker 1: eligible for like Off Broadway awards. Maybe they FYC starts now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think so Drama Desk maybe. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're going to get all of them. Yeah, start the campaign.
Speaker 1: Start the campaign. We did lose to the Queerties. To
Speaker 1: drag the musical, We're all Querties losers here. I lost
Speaker 1: like several Queerties. Did you really? I was like gay
Speaker 1: Gangs of New York. I took nothing home. I'm a
Speaker 1: what's your face? What wit? What did you lose? Oh? Best?
Speaker 1: I lost? Best Comic I Love that for you lost
Speaker 1: Best Comedy show, Fire Island lost Best Streaming Movie? What what? What?
Speaker 1: We also lost best podcast? What? Yeah? I'm rigged. It's okay,
Speaker 1: there's another hardware. So this is again. This has been
Speaker 1: so this is It's time to we end every episode
Speaker 1: with a song, so surrenderything, to feel the chest again, hallo.
Speaker 1: You can bet I'm doing The Kellys should to hear
Speaker 1: more of that. Go to tights and egg Bye h