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Speaker 1: me and was like, have you heard this woman? This

421
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: forty plus yr old woman auditioning And I was like,

422
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 1: I hate to break it to you, but that did.

423
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 1: This is amazing. I'm not a little girl who so

424
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: then what what did she turn to hand? Like? She

425
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm in the presence of

426
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: the yah. She was working. It was she turned a

427
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 1: hand and then they would people would make me because

428
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,200
Speaker 1: you have to wake up. You have to start singing

429
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 1: at seven in the morning, like it's like they god,

430
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: So like on the morning shifts, I would sing Colors

431
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: of the Wind as that voice, and the tourist would

432
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: be like, what in the actual hell is going Listen,

433
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: we're some eggs and some Broadway adjacent vocals. What is

434
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: this guard back? Yes, that's exactly what it was. Oh

435
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,879
Speaker 1: my god. But Colors of the Wind truly is everyone.

436
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: You must watch it, yeah, because we're I think we're

437
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: the last people who've seen this. You definitely are. And

438
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,360
Speaker 1: we watched it too. Watch it isn't that weird. We

439
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: had never seen it, and like all the entire Fire

440
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: Island Pines house that we were with, like was well

441
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: versed in it, and they're like, oh, wait here she

442
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: goes yeah. Yeah, by the way, And because we were

443
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: exposed to that, I was so on board immediately with

444
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: everything about it. They were like, well, you have to

445
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 1: go see Tight Tanique, and then I am. And then

446
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: I showed up in the front row. Yes, I bought

447
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 1: my tickets to Tight Tanique that moment, honestly shout out.

448
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: And then like I got back and I saw it

449
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Tide Tchanique, and I turned to my sister metaphorically because

450
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: I don't believe it was physically in the presence, but

451
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: I texted you and I was like, you gotta get

452
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: down here, yeah, because I knew it would hit hard

453
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: with you. And then I went on to day techs

454
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 1: right away. Wow. And then Matt and I went I

455
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 1: was like matching together and with me, and then it

456
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: was the hardest I've ever laughed. We were screaming. I am.

457
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: So you don't understand how much that means to me,

458
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: because I consider you two to be like some of

459
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: the funniest people I've ever seen, So for you to

460
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: say that it was the best time, I will never

461
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: forget it. I feel stupid that I've only seen it twice.

462
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: But then I honestly, okay, So what happened was my

463
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: parents had come in. I think maybe it was for

464
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: the fire Island premiere or something something was happening and

465
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: they were in town and I was like, I think

466
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: I have to take them to a matinee. But then

467
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna buy

468
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: you guys tickets because I feel like if I go again,

469
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like no, Like you can't be back

470
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: the third time this soon you can. What's crazy? I

471
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: was telling Bowen, it's like a gay football game. There

472
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: was a little guy in there was some very enthusiast

473
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: stick a fan in the front right the other day. Yeah,

474
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: and like when we were all doing the thing along

475
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: at the end, he was like, great job. I've seen

476
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: this fifteen times. It's like it's like Rocky Hart. Yeah.

477
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: I said that, Yeah, yeah, it's been It's been crazy

478
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: because you're never going to see the same show twice. Yeah,

479
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: because when I did, I did musical theater for like

480
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: a decade before. I was telling Bowen this before the

481
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: show before, I was like, I can't do this anymore.

482
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 1: I gotta get out right. You do the same thing

483
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: in musical theater eight times a week. It's too much.

484
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: And so now we have this beautiful part where I

485
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: get to improv and do whatever the hell I want.

486
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: And because it's so balls to the wall insane, people

487
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: never know. But you're never going to get the same

488
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: show twice. Yeah, that's so funny. I was talking to

489
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: John Riddle and he was saying the same thing, like

490
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 1: he was very disillusioned with the musical theater of it all.

491
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: Not to speak for him, but like, no, please, I

492
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 1: feel like I feel like you don't really get the

493
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: opportunity to do something that feels as alive as this

494
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: correct and that is like before I saw that show,

495
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: I remember feeling like I saw Into the Woods and

496
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: your show Titanique concurrently two nights in a row, and

497
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: that was the first time I had felt really excited,

498
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: like l was the pandemic, but I had seen other

499
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: theater and I was just so I felt drained because

500
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: I came in like really excited and wanting to experience

501
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: it again, but everything was feeling really stale to me. Yeah,

502
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: and so I feel like you don't get the opportunity

503
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: always to not only see but perform material that feels

504
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: so fun and that the audience is really there with.

505
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: And it did feel like a great marriage of like

506
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: great Broadway caliber theater and you know, comedy, especially in

507
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: that space, which was the old UCB at the time,

508
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: you know, but it felt like that perfect marriage that

509
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: honestly made me fall in love with the type of

510
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: comedy I wanted to do, you know that we did

511
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: back in the day because Bone and I did musical

512
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: comedy kind of exclusively there for like a few years. Yeah,

513
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,679
Speaker 1: musical comedy is like the best kind of comedy, and

514
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,640
Speaker 1: in my opinion, if you get it right, like it's

515
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: there's nothing more transcendent than that. Yeah, it's like the

516
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 1: art of singing combined with comedy. I mean, we always

517
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: said of Ti Tanique, we were like, we wanted to

518
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: be like a musical snl, Like we wanted to be

519
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: like hard accomedy. Yeah. And I think one of the

520
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: things that made is successful is that when we were

521
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: doing it in Los Angeles, I moved out to LA

522
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I was like struggling writing for years, and I was like, well,

523
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: I guess I'm going to wind up at this other

524
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: dinner theater where I'm going to perform while people are

525
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: eating French fries and fish and red sauce, and and

526
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: we wrote this and I think that I think the

527
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: beauty of it is that we didn't have producers at

528
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: the time, so we were like, let's just go ball

529
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 1: to the wall, let's make each other laugh. What is

530
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 1: funny to us? Right, and so it exceeded all of

531
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: my expectations when we then took it to New York

532
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: to be like is this funny or is this just

533
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: like LA funny? Because you know there is a difference

534
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: right there. Okay, so because you've said this, like is

535
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: this just LA funny or is it also New York funny?

536
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Like do you have a sense of like what that

537
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: difference is now? Or Well, when we were in Los Angeles,

538
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: so we were doing all these movie to musical parodies

539
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: in LA. So were with Constantine, That's where I reconnected

540
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: with him. We were doing like Devil Worse product or

541
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills Scream and LA loved it because there's no

542
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: musical theater in Los Angeles, right, and so this was

543
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: very It was a movie, so everyone from LA could

544
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: get it because it's such a film based town and

545
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: there was pop songs and it was kind of like

546
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: ratchet and grungy, and so people loved it. But New

547
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: York is completely different. Yes, there are jukebox musicals but

548
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: like there's a high level of taste and you know

549
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,439
Speaker 1: what people are exactly. So when we were when we

550
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: started doing Titanique in Los Angeles, I was like, maybe

551
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: this could work in New York. But we all have

552
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: absolutely no money, We're so poor. So I asked everyone

553
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: to fly to New York on their own time, put

554
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: themselves up do a week of readings in New York

555
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: just to see if it was like worthwhile and if

556
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: we could even sell it out. And we sold it out,

557
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: and then in that week, David Foster's manager came, so

558
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: then he got David Foster there, and Eve a Price,

559
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 1: the Broadway producer, came and in like one week everyone

560
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: it was like divine intervention, like the stars aligned. Everyone

561
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: came on board and we really we made it a thing.

562
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: So is it a thing? Where? Because I have had

563
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: this question because you guys, like for those of you

564
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: out there who haven't at this point at least googled

565
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: it or didn't know already. It is a jukebox musical

566
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: of Selene Dion's music, telling the story of Titanic as

567
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: if it was from Selene Dion's perspective, if she was

568
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: on the show. Correct it's completely unhinged, insane, and it

569
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: was told by Selene Dion songs, So was there any

570
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: like I guess David Foster coming as him being like, Okay,

571
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: how are they using a lot of the songs that

572
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: I've written, because he wrote and composed a lot of those.

573
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: He wrote a lot of those. So what we had

574
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: to do is we had a music lawyer come this

575
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: is like Minutia, but we were doing it in these

576
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: spaces that had like ascap licenses over all the songs,

577
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: so we didn't have to buy the rights to the songs.

578
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: But when this was becoming a professional thing, when we

579
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: were going to do it in the theater, then we

580
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: had to get a music lawyer, and so we did

581
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: lose a couple of the songs. We lost all coming

582
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: back to me now, I was wondering that was like

583
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: the thing because that's Jim Steimon and that was written

584
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: for meat Low. Yeah, we lost power of Love because

585
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: Selene Dion didn't originally sing that. Wow, we lost that's

586
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 1: the way it is to Anne Juliet, which is the

587
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: their Max Martin, which, by the way, I did see Anguliet.

588
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I liked it very very much. I recommend everyone see

589
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: and Juliette it's a blast. Yeah, it's a blast, just

590
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: to give another shout out. And yet I never walked away.

591
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: I never had the thought walking away from the show going.

592
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I wish they had sung like that handful of songs

593
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: nothing hearing about it, because I cried coming back to

594
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: me because that was the original way into the world.

595
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: See what else do I remember? And yeah, So we

596
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: had to change things, and we had to put Thankfully,

597
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: she has so many iconic hits and they're all so

598
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: theatrical that we could put anything in there and it

599
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: would work. But we did have to do like some

600
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, jigsaw puzzles with with the songs in order

601
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: to make it work, even the ones that feel more

602
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: b side to say, like I rediscovered I Surrender Believe

603
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 1: that's like maybe my top three songs. By the way,

604
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: shout out Kelly Clarkson singing that un American idol for

605
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: me first ever hearing that, Like she sang I Surrender

606
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: and it was like the top four, and I was like,

607
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this song? It builds, build builds,

608
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: It is really good. But that even like seduces, seduces,

609
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know if any of that, I considered myself

610
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: like someone that knows Selene, but I was like, what

611
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: is this? And then I was like, oh, it seduces me,

612
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: which you don't think. Cut Deep Cut. We had The

613
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Show Must Go On, which was is that Freddie Mercury?

614
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: We had that, and then we were like, oh, people

615
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: are going to be too confused. Sure, sure, so, I

616
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: mean all of the songs, the fact that we have

617
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: cleared Beauty. We got Beauty in the Wild, I know,

618
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: that's that's a wild card to me. We got River

619
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 1: Deep and that's in Tina. Oh yeah. I was like,

620
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: we're not going to get that. Like, there are so

621
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,479
Speaker 1: many things that I'm shocked that we did get. And

622
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm so happy that we were able to build a

623
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: musical because essentially when we first started doing it, we

624
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: just took the song totally. Yeah. Yeah, we were just like,

625
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: let's do it for fun, not think it well. I mean,

626
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: in the back of my head, I was like, wouldn't

627
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: this be so fun if it like just became a thing.

628
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: But you know that thinking that and then that becoming

629
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: reality are like so separate and what it actually does happen.

630
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: It's just like it's mind blowing. What's mind blowing is

631
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the bridge between now at being a huge hit and

632
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: like the story you tell of like you and constantly

633
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: just like after a show or at a bar or something,

634
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: just being like him being like, what if it's like

635
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: Titanic but told like but it's it's a juke box

636
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: cling Dion music. But we were we were doing dinner

637
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: theater in Los Angeles and it was like after like Scream,

638
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: and we were like both like a little bit tipsy,

639
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, Okay, the next thing that we should

640
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: do here is Titanic with all Celin Dion songs. It's

641
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: one of those ideas that comes along and you're like,

642
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: well that can possibly work. Yeah, the muse strikes. But

643
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: because like Constantine l yeah, Star, yeah Star. Love him

644
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: so funny and a really really nice Yeah, great guy.

645
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: He says the same about you, by the way. I

646
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: was like, give him my best. They love him so much.

647
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I adore him. Yeah, yeah, he feels the same. Well.

648
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: When he told me that idea, I was like in

649
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: my head, I was like cool, cool, cool, tight, never

650
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen. He was like, you'll be selin. I was

651
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: like no, I won't. I was like this will never happen.

652
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: And we're actors in Los Angeles. We can't get together

653
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: for lunch, let alone write a musical. See you in

654
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: five years. And but we started, We just started writing

655
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: it for fun, it was, and we would write in

656
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: Constantine's apartment on Monday, literally for fun. This whole thing

657
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: was but all the best things. Yeah, and it can

658
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: just be that it can and you forget, you forget

659
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: that it can just be that it can just be

660
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: jamming out. But at the time we were, I was

661
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: like I had no money, completely unemployed, no prospects, and

662
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: so I was like, oh, I guess I'll just and writing.

663
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I was writing so much, selling things, but making like

664
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: no money, just like crumbs. And I was like, oh,

665
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just do this thing and I'll just

666
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: waste a bunch of time on this too. So the

667
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: fact the fact that what is ironic to me after

668
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles to be a writer, that I

669
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: the only thing that I've ever gotten up off the

670
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: ground is a musical when I left musical theater. It's

671
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: just it's just so ironic. It finds you. Yeah, it's really,

672
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you're meant to do what you're meant to do.

673
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: I think, yes, you know, you were at sea, and

674
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: then this like you know this thing literally literally a yes,

675
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: front runner, this is the thing that I want to

676
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: bring up, and the thing about Titanique, and this is

677
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: probably something that like I took this for granted, we

678
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: write Iceberg, that sink the Titanic for U S and L.

679
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: I was like, this will be whatever. Who cares like this.

680
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: People might not get this, no, no, but we can.

681
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: Very briefly I was like I was like, I was like, okay, yeah,

682
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure like people might not get it whatever, And

683
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: then the reception of it, I was like, wait a minute,

684
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: of course everyone's gonna get it. It's monoculture, but it

685
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: is Titanic is like the ultimate monoculture to me, Like

686
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: people all over the world know this front to back.

687
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: People all over the world. No Selene Dion front to back.

688
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: So it's like they're both Selene and Titanic the movie

689
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: are both kind of doing the same thing separately and

690
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: together where it's like this thing that people and that

691
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: is universally known, appreciated and love. Everyone can put themselves

692
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: into it. I have I have Titanic material too. It's

693
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: real it's really, it's really In fact, my first screen

694
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: test for SNL, I did a Titanic bit, which was

695
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: this gay guy on the Titanic while it's friends, they

696
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: should not have booked this cruise, oh he wanted, which

697
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: had enough lifeboats and also much better nightlife. That's really good,

698
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: and so like he's like the Titanic is literally sinking

699
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: and he's so cold. We have one line that's like,

700
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: because we all own tech styles, we have the money.

701
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why were and because they're in third

702
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: class because they heard that's where the hot guys were.

703
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: That's really good. What I love about Titanic and Celindon

704
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: is that is a ven diagram of both like yes,

705
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: heteronormative yes yes, and complete camp homosexual cause as well,

706
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,959
Speaker 1: right yes, And so that's why I think it really

707
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: touches the lives of truly everybody, everybody. And it was

708
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: before a time when people were like questioning whether or

709
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 1: not that was okay. It was just because it was

710
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: monoculture and it was everyone. The gays were seeing it

711
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: and getting the camp of it. Yeah. I mean, I

712
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: don't think anyone will ever forget where they were when

713
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: she turned around in that fucking hat had already been born.

714
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: She's already an ostagronominee at the point, like people knew

715
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: who she was. That was a superstar moment. Oh my god.

716
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: Notice I say nothing about Leo and but because because

717
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: we're gays, it is about her, and it's about the

718
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: song and it's about all that, and it's a little

719
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: bit about twink Leo. Yeah, but not really for the straights.

720
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: Leo took over the culture in such a huge aggressive

721
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: way that like in your queer brain you're like, okay,

722
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: but what's the other thing? Yeah, like, what's fringe from? Yeah,

723
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: and it's the hat. It's the hat, and it's the course.

724
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: It's seen, Oh my god, the Corse, It's seen the

725
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: best scene. It was also all of our sexual awakenings,

726
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: because I feel like we're all kind of within the

727
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: same age and so I just feel like it's like

728
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: nineties nostalgia camp straight. It's everything everything, It's Jamie Lee,

729
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: it is all of us. Oh my god. By the way, readers,

730
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: we did fully get into the art on the last episode.

731
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: At this point, we're probably done talking about it, but

732
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: we will never be done talking about Oh my god, Well,

733
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: we didn't say anything that no one else We were

734
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: more commenting on like cringe culture, which is my culture. Yeah,

735
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: that's what I learned when that happened. I was like,

736
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: I live for cringe culture. That is defining culture for me. Yeah,

737
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: that is it. Yeah, well, I mean the number one

738
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: moment in culture history on the on our top two

739
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: hundred moments of culture is a same It's the most

740
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: euphoric moment of all time. Yeah, yeah, which isn't even

741
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: quite cringe. It's just like impacted everyone in the exact

742
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: same way. It is pure star Tonin to think about,

743
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: like that moment, I'll never forget. I was sitting in

744
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: my living room with a Manish I will never forget.

745
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: To never forget. I was sitting in a living room

746
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: in Parks Up with Manishackman and he came out and

747
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: I thought the joke was, oh, John Travolta is sort

748
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: of giving their hesitation for this like iconic gay song.

749
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: I was like, this is already funny to me. And

750
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: then when he said Adela Ziem, I just screamed. And

751
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: then when they cut to Adena, oh that face terror terror,

752
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,399
Speaker 1: and you know she already was feeling shook about having

753
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: to sing it in the first place, Oh my god.

754
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: Second place, that was defining cringe cold. I mean for me,

755
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: it's like knowing that she has to sing this really

756
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: difficult song she has struggled with live was it let

757
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: it go? Let it go. That's a tough one, and

758
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, like just appearing as he did and singing,

759
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: and del does see that a little with the confidence.

760
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: It's the confidence that yeah, I'm sorry. This goes to

761
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: what you were asking me, like, what is defining culture

762
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: for you? And I thought long and hard about it,

763
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: and OK, let's go into it. Just it's a great segue, please,

764
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: because I never even realized the term cringe culture. But

765
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: that's okay. I'm going to go back to like watching

766
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: old reality TV shows. When it first came out, there

767
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: was a show called Hey Paula, I don't know if

768
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: you show yeah, when she is asked to choreograph the

769
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: Bratstall to a movie and the pen ultimate episode is

770
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: that it falls apart and she's no longer going to

771
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,959
Speaker 1: be on it and she starts crying as if her dog,

772
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: her town, her family has been stabbed, murdered, and burnt

773
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 1: to a crisp. And that to me was That's when

774
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: I knew that something was wrong inside of me because

775
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: it was so cringe e and so that it just

776
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: brings it full circle. Yeah. I that was the defining

777
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: moment where I was like, I am obsessed with cringe culture. Wow,

778
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: show Girls, Antelbassetted, the thing, all of that. I cannot

779
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: get enough. I know where you're a fan of the Office. No, okay,

780
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 1: so so that what is that cringe culture though? Because

781
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: that's like, yes, so maybe you'd love the television. I

782
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: probably would. Sometimes it makes me so uncomfortable that I

783
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: can't watch things right. But when things are delivered with

784
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: such confidence right, it's like it's like a glitch in

785
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 1: my patriot. It's like I explode inside the ultimate sort

786
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: of comedy. Sorry, not getting I'm getting a little academic.

787
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Is like I always think of it as like there's

788
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: an error and stimulus, something is being you're being stimulated

789
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: by something that is wrong, yes, And some people can

790
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: really withstand that, and some people really can't, can't even

791
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: watch it, can't even be in the room, like cringe

792
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: culture drives them up the wall. But then some people

793
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: spin the cringe culture like I don't know if you've

794
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: seen Elizabeth Berkeley on Instagram. She's come out with a

795
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: whole new line of merch I know a lot about

796
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Berkeley on Instagram too. Yeah, she's released a new

797
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: line of hats that say like verses and all these things,

798
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: and she's really really taking it to the next level.

799
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: When you know, like when this came out, when show

800
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Girls came out, and I'm sure that she if there

801
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: was a Twitter, she would have deleted it so early

802
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: to Ariana, do you know what I mean? But now

803
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: she's just like again, she's like, it's a receive us

804
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: and she's like, Okay, I receive that. I'm taking it.

805
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm turning it into something beautiful. Yes, and honestly, like

806
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: what I will commend if not Arianna the most, then

807
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 1: at least her team about is the very quick pivot too.

808
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: It is funny, yeah you know what I mean, Like

809
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: because but they didn't think good. It's like what Diana

810
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: did when Diana came out, being like it is campy. Yeah, right,

811
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: it is campy. It's like did you did we all

812
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: think I don't think that that's intention. I think it's

813
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: played as seriously as possible. And then when we all

814
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: start to catch on and it becomes meme culture and

815
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: then they're like, oh, okay, this is actually what it is,

816
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: right see, and like at least there's an element of

817
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: it that can be celebrated in this way, whereas other

818
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: things when they're just bad, like you almost wish they

819
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: leaned into like a kid. Yeah, cringe moment. Like correct,

820
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: I'll say it, like think is why not I did

821
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: see Bat Cinderella. Oh my god, I want to see

822
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: it so badly. It reminds me of Wonderland. Yeah, I

823
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: did see it. Um. I saw actually the second night

824
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: it was on. I really wanted to go the first

825
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: night because I wanted to be on the ground. One

826
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: talk about wanting to do shrooms and seeing anything. For me,

827
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 1: it's that it's Bat Cinderella. I don't know. And you

828
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: know what all I had was like a dirty Shirley

829
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: and it really should have been more shrooms. Yeah. But

830
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: I will say this, like, okay, go off. And if

831
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: this this has nothing to do with any performer in

832
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: the show. They all really are great and committed and

833
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: I love Grace McLean and like I love Carolee Carmelo

834
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: and they're star and everyone's so good. It's just like

835
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: Andrew Lloyd Weber at his most like limp. Yeah, so

836
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: it's just like you've heard all these like messes of

837
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: notes together before and like and the story really doesn't

838
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: go anywhere interesting. And I feel bad because like, so

839
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: would you call it camp? I actually wouldn't, And I

840
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: almost think I think they're trying for camp, and I

841
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: think the performers want it to be camp, but the

842
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: material is just not really camp because I don't believe

843
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: it was written with the intention of bad and this

844
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: is the thing and that is camp right in the

845
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: conversation of about camp, which is like I think like

846
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: has been especially relevant since like that Matt Gala year.

847
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yea so perfect example is Celene Right. It's like

848
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: something that is executed in bad taste but presented with

849
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: the confidence of it being good taste. Right, That is

850
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: I think what is pretty fundamental. And so Angela Bassett

851
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: did the thing. It was it was like a performance

852
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: of like this is good. Yeah no, it was not

853
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: meant to be this correct. It is not aware of

854
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: it being bad. And and bat Cinderella, it sounds like

855
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: they're trying to like it's the cycle now is very

856
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: short between like putting something out there and then quickly

857
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: course correcting, meaning like oh, actually no, we we we

858
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: meant for this to be right a little bit. It's

859
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: it's not camp. It's just not very good. And I

860
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: feel like the performers are maybe even trying to and

861
00:43:56,200 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 1: really almost succeeding and like fooling the audience into thinking

862
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: that like it's camp. But but their performances are also good. Right,

863
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: it's just like a good performance of bad material. Yeah,

864
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: so that that's not camp. What is, honestly, and I

865
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: would say what is camps? Like Colors of the Wind, Marla,

866
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: what the kids doing? Pattycake? It's the ball's bouncing up

867
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: and down. That's literally it's literally like this is yeah bad,

868
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: and it's us pretending on stage that it's good. And

869
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: then you fool people at Allen starters being like who

870
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: is this woman? Who example yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right,

871
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 1: I am camp? I am yea say it? I mean

872
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: is like tique is high camp? It's camp because like

873
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: you know, just even the way, like the way that

874
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: you sing certain notes, like people wouldn't do that because

875
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: they wouldn't because it's not written to do that, but

876
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 1: you do it. And we understand it's a reference to Selene,

877
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: but also like an intentional heightening of the moment and

878
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: a blowing out of it. Also just like the anachronisms everything. Yeah,

879
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: the fact that it's like and Selene Dion was of

880
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: course on the ship. You know that's wrong. You know

881
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just not true. And so that

882
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: to me is like falls under the definition and knows itself. Yes, yes,

883
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one must know thyself.

884
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: It's actually culture number fifty nine, one must know thyself.

885
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: The Oracle and the matrix. I believe it was the

886
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: Oracle that said that. First. Okay, this is random, and

887
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I just want to touch on it briefly. Do you

888
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: did you ever see Andrew Lloyd Webber DJ with Countess Luan.

889
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: That's that is like the ultimate meme? Yes, yes, okay, great,

890
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: I just want to I mean, that is that is

891
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: like a moment that is like, oh, that's fun, Like

892
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: he must know what this image is. Maybe he doesn't

893
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: mean maybe, But the thing is I'm confused about Andrew

894
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Lloyd Webber, you know what I mean. I'm confused about it,

895
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: and like maybe it's I just never meant to get

896
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: it and won't get it. But like him posing with

897
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: the Countess. Here's the thing about the Countess. The Countess

898
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: does not camp because the Countess goes out there and

899
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: is like every time they drag her on like real house,

900
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 1: is that a reunion or something for being a bad singer,

901
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: she gets really hurt and offended, and it's like, so

902
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: you don't know that you're not great, and she'll say

903
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: things like I mean, I'm not Whitney Houston but she's

904
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: and it's like no, no, no, you you cannot sing,

905
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: and and that's okay. Like I went to the show.

906
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: I had an amazing time. I said this after I

907
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: saw Countess. She is a star. Yes, she holds the

908
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 1: room right love, but even when she gets vomited on

909
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: right like that moment and that no there is video, No,

910
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: I actually have severe vomit phobia. So I'm so you

911
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have liked me in Sydney. I threw up in

912
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: an uber at thirty three my last day. You got

913
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 1: so drunk. I was so drunk and like jet last

914
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: and also like I'm doing great now, but it wasn't.

915
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: It wasn't my best month of my life. And so

916
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: like I sort of went for it. One night in Sydney.

917
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: I was rotating Margarita's espresso martinis and I'm telling you, mad,

918
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: this poor uber drive in Sydney, like I swear to god,

919
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: I've never been so humiliated in my life. And then

920
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,919
Speaker 1: especially me walking in shirtless because I ruined a great

921
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: tank talk to my hotel and they say, sir, you

922
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: can't come in here like that. And I turned to

923
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 1: them and I do remember this. I said these words verbatim.

924
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't want to be like this.

925
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is write that. But yeah, ruined,

926
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: ruined at least that man's night. But I did zell him.

927
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: By the way, this is also so funny with me

928
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: being like, do you have zell and the four hundred dollars? Okay,

929
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: that's actually really so so sorry. Yeah yeah, yeah, so

930
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: drunk and so sorry. My whole Sydney experience so drunk

931
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: and so sorry. Oh my god. But like when in Sydney,

932
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: when it truly I mean it's a drinking town, it was. Yeah,

933
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: they drink hard, oh my god, and they party untiled.

934
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Everything's open until like six or seven in the morning.

935
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: Is that true? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was

936
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: a family. It was too wholesome when I went recently,

937
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: but oh my god. In Melbourne there's a place called Pufftuff,

938
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: which is it's like, oh, they have like a pop

939
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: room on like Saturday nights. You go, you stay until

940
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: like six or seven in the morning. It is incredible.

941
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: It's like three stories of just music and dancing and

942
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: people go off. Yeah. Yeah. Ty Sunderland was in World

943
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: of course. Of course a lot people were down. There

944
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: was a puffy It's so fun. Are you going out

945
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: after shows? Never? I'm a zombie may rot. I call

946
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: it rotting. I literally rot until the sunset and the

947
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: night and then I do the show. That's so funny.

948
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 1: I just talked to John Riddle who's on vacation, and

949
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: he described what he was doing on vacation. Yeah. Yeah,

950
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: that is the perfect descript that's me on Sundays. Yeah, yeah,

951
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: I cannot do anything. The first week, I was like,

952
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: me and some of the other castmates were like, this

953
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: is not going to be okay, we're here, this is

954
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: going to be three months. You guys, we're going out.

955
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: We're living our lives. We're not getting stuck into the

956
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: routine of doing hows. A week and going home and

957
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 1: doing nothing. Literally, I'm out for a week. I go

958
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: out for one drink. I get COVID. A week and

959
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: half into the show. Oh my god, this Joe closes

960
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: because I give it to five of my cast members

961
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: and I am literally it's now eight months and I

962
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: have never recovered. I do nothing. I cannot go because

963
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: I was going to ask like that has to be hard.

964
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: The show's hard. The music is hard. It is the

965
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: most even for you. You're an amazing son that's getting

966
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: lost like you are in life. Thank you, please go

967
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: let that. Yeah, thank you. This is more. This is

968
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: actually harder and more than Sistruct Suspect I thought was

969
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: the hardest singing. Well, I mean the nuns and Sistract

970
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: had to like scure out to the heavens including me, right,

971
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: But this is even harder and higher and like you know,

972
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: the riffier than that. But it's not so much the singing.

973
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: It's just the energy that's Selene because you have to

974
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: bring you're inhabiting her and you're doing the what you

975
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: described as the impression is you're smelling a fart until

976
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: you go yeah, oh my god. Somebody thought it okay,

977
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: I think it was me. Yeah, that's it. That's it.

978
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: The entire time. She's always in disbelief about something and

979
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 1: she's always just like looking around. But that's discovery, discovering. Yeah, yeah,

980
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: but that is you're You're in that for two hours. Yeah.

981
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: And I don't have any lines with any other cast members.

982
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I I'm narrating the whole thing

983
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: and so and my scene partner is the audience. So

984
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: it's like so much energy and you're info dumping and

985
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's info wars. It's actually

986
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: I want to know what is the what is the

987
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: most fun song to sing that you guess the most

988
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: excited about still, and what is the most difficult song

989
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: that you get the most like trepidation. Oh my god.

990
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: The first twenty minutes of the show, I want to

991
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: ss myself. Oh my god. The first I'm Alive, which

992
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: is the easiest song of hers to sing, and then

993
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: Taking Chances, which is the highest song of hers to sing.

994
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: The first time minute, yeah it is, I want to die.

995
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 1: I am so nervous that I am shaking. And the

996
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: first one every single show enter I enter, Oh my

997
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: stage fright is I have musical theater mental illness, and

998
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm very open about that. I suffer from such horrible

999
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: stage fright that I am like shook for the first

1000
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Once I get through Because You Loved Me,

1001
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: which is in the second act, and then I have

1002
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: to sing the hardest songs, which are I Surrender and

1003
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: My Heart Will Go On. Those are a piece of cake,

1004
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: but I have to get through. Oh, also the bridge

1005
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: of to Love You More, you know, when it is

1006
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 1: so high. Yeah, they're all they're actually all so so

1007
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: not for nothing. But whoever is singing, I think it's

1008
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the Barber track is maybe I thought it was Kathy Age,

1009
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 1: but now I sing that top part hard that whenever

1010
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: we're like lip sinking it, which happens a lot. Yeah,

1011
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: I always like this. Yeah it is cool cool. Yeah, yeah,

1012
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: like the sound has to go through your top of

1013
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: your head. Yeah, every one is singing from our show.

1014
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: We call it laser Cat. It's like here's here. Yeah

1015
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: my voice is in my third al. Yeah, I mean

1016
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: that's what you want. No, it's great, it's great. That's

1017
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: that's CCM that everyone's a laser cat rightings like this? Yeah,

1018
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like I remember like when you grow up

1019
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: on like pop music, right and you're listening to like Celendon,

1020
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: who sounds that repose. It sounds like she is screaming belting. Yeah,

1021
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: but it's just like a powerful sounds can make. But

1022
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: it's so easy. And then you go to like see

1023
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: live theater and everything. I remember like when I first

1024
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: saw like Wicked, it was like it had to be

1025
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: lament cast. I was like sixteen years old and the

1026
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: alphabet insulted us when she literally went like I saw

1027
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: like a Wednesday matinee and it was it was so

1028
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: limp dick. It was bring me down. When I'm like,

1029
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: I was so like I was like ready to soss

1030
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: in that moment and so but I was just like yeah,

1031
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: but I guess like you do have to have those

1032
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: moments where you're like, sorry, y'all, I'm healthy right now.

1033
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: A few experiencing it on my tour, like it's like,

1034
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to be hard and if you

1035
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: can't do it, if I am not feeling at least nine,

1036
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: well then I can't do the show. Like you can't

1037
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: be sick, no, because if I was, I would rather

1038
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: I would sos myself on stage. I would call out

1039
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: of the show. If I had to go at the

1040
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: end of my kid, Yeah, like that is just that's

1041
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: a crime. You can't arrest, you know what the stuff.

1042
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: Someone could come to me on the street and punge

1043
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: me in the face and I could sue and I can't.

1044
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: I have no course of legal action for what happened,

1045
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: which is worse. That is awful, Like I have no

1046
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: there's no I've met with lawyers. I'm like that, what

1047
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: can I do? Because part of me was like, if

1048
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: I knew any better, if I was like demand game now,

1049
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: I might have marched to the box office. And for

1050
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: what she just Also, it was the funny for Stephanie J.

1051
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: It so I didn't even get Stephanie J. Get Stephanie

1052
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 1: J into the woods. But she was great. The understudy

1053
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: was fantastic. Stephanie J is like me, that's like the

1054
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: pinnacle for me. Yeah, she's like the pen ultimate come on,

1055
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 1: And I mean, so get this the greatest voice. It

1056
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Stephanie J. Block and Annalie Ashford,

1057
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: and we got Annalie Ashford who was stunning. Yeah, and Tuesday,

1058
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: I'm going to know for um and I'm going to

1059
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: see Sweeney on Tuesday. Good I heard that it's Annelie's show.

1060
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: I can't I can't wait. I'm so jealous of the

1061
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: amount of theater that you see. This just buys. Every

1062
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: day I get stoned and I just buy tickets. So

1063
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: tonight I'm seeing Jessica Chastain In's House. Tomorrow, I'm seeing

1064
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: Sweeney Todd. Wednesday, I'm seeing Ben in Parade. Oh my god,

1065
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: I'm seeing Camelot with and then oh Saturday, and before

1066
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: I go SNL, I'm gonna see Betty who oh. And

1067
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,919
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go to SNL starring Bow and Yang

1068
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: with host. Oh my god, he's got a good week. Yeah,

1069
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: getting birthday week. Yeah. Well this is why I mean

1070
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: like whenever I I mean whatever, I but like, I've

1071
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: gone through some things and so I was just like,

1072
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: you know what, how do I get out there and

1073
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: be busy and do things I enjoy? And it's theater

1074
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: for me, Like I love. I'm telling you. Like when

1075
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: I saw Tight Tanique, it did something to my spirit. Yea,

1076
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,839
Speaker 1: it really did like defined my summer. Seeing that show.

1077
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: I was like this all like is coming into view,

1078
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: Like it was like it was amazing and we wore

1079
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: our hats. It was like a ten pole in time

1080
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: for me, Like I remember that summer. I'll think about

1081
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: that summer. I'll be like, oh, Fire Island came out

1082
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: and we went to go see Titanique. Yeah my god, yeah,

1083
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 1: like those are the things from that summer for ye Tique.

1084
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: And also we were so busy that to then like

1085
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: have a moment where we just like literally enjoy ourselves.

1086
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: And also I will say to be in that space

1087
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: felt so cool. And now you can't go to the

1088
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: theater anymore. But I was like, Wow, they really found

1089
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: a way to use this space for the power that

1090
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: it has, which was I always felt like the reason

1091
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: why it created such great actors when when UCB was

1092
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 1: occupying that space was because you could do something really

1093
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: small and they would feel it everywhere, you know what

1094
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, I used to go all the time.

1095
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I used to take improv classes, and

1096
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: when I actually did have a life, I would go

1097
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: from Cinderella to like go watch like a UCB show

1098
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, it was. It was wonderful.

1099
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: R I p UCB. The only thing that happened that

1100
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: was shitty to us is when Gristiti's closed before UCB did.

1101
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: All the rats came down to the Yeah. Yeah, in

1102
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: that little hallway. Oh yeah, that was wretched hall Yeah,

1103
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: that's where our dressing rooms were, and we would have

1104
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: to pack up our set every single night. And so

1105
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: it was like us and the rats. Oh my god,

1106
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean talking about yeah, but I literally was about Cinderella.

1107
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: It was me and Okay. So then like you were

1108
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: you were done with that? Yeah, we were done. And

1109
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: then Daryl roth As is like amazing and beautiful and

1110
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: I do have a special announcement to share. Yes, we

1111
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: have been officially extended till September tenth. I complaining that's incredible.

1112
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: We just go on and on and on. Rose she is,

1113
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, can I just say something she Have

1114
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: you ever met her before? She is the kindest, loveliest person.

1115
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: Her voice is incredible, She's attaining, incredible dancer. She has

1116
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: been the most gracious, wonderful, humble person, such a beautiful

1117
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: addition to the castle. I cannot say enough great things

1118
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: about her. She is she's so so good and she

1119
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: is so grateful to be a part of it. And

1120
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: she was like this is like a new chapter for

1121
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: me doing theater, Like I didn't think I would do it,

1122
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is your path right now.

1123
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: It's saying like do theater. So just like stay here

1124
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: and like have fun. Yes. I remember when when Rose

1125
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: won the Rusical Rue said to Rose, like it's just

1126
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: really amazing zing when you get to see people do

1127
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: what they were born. Yeah. Yeah, And I was like

1128
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: that's so real. I mean, like they do have such

1129
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: a powerful stage presence, and like you know the thing

1130
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: about like drag races, just because you get on that,

1131
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: you don't necessarily get the opportunity to main talent. And

1132
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: so like you know, of course, you know Rose being

1133
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: a finalist like got to do all these different types

1134
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: of challenges and stuff, but you don't necessarily know that

1135
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a season that's like heavily reliant on

1136
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: what your skill is and like to even make it

1137
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: that far, because you might flop into design challenge or

1138
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: a can challenge and not get to sing. It happens

1139
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: sometimes hard. You don't find out someone's really good at

1140
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: something until like after the show or like a second

1141
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: All Stars thing or whatever. You know. Monai Exchange. We

1142
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: didn't hear the opera sound until yeah, yeah. Are you

1143
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: watching Drag Race this season? Of course? Yeah, it's getting fun.

1144
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Like yeah, now that like we're down to like the

1145
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: final seven, I'm like, okay, Like the narratives are very

1146
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: fun and I like that they're willing to be villains again. Yeah.

1147
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: Mistress being mistress is giving twenty three year old energy.

1148
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: I love No, I know, I love it too. Of

1149
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: course you're twenty three. She's like she's twenty she's twenty three,

1150
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: or she's like twenty five young young girls makes me

1151
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: want to die. No, no, no, it's fun. But I

1152
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: like it's that like Zoomer millennial Cusp thing where she's

1153
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be like chaotic. Yeah yeah yeah, which

1154
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: is like great, bring it back. It's gonna be. I

1155
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: mean like if the top three four is, I think

1156
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be. I mean for me, when I

1157
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: saw that lip sync with Sashakle, Sasha Koby is win right, Yeah,

1158
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: I meant fan in me. I am just watching her

1159
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: lip sync that amount of times and technically one one

1160
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: is like whoa, I mean that was a real I

1161
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: love the lip sync. Yeah, yeah, I love Sasha Kolby.

1162
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: I think that she is such a star, and I

1163
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: like that she's one of the older ones too. Yeah,

1164
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: because now I feel so old watching drag Race with

1165
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: like the TikTok listen, okay, hot take. I love Sugar

1166
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: and Spice. I think that they're so beautiful. I want

1167
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: to if they were women, I would have sex with them. Yeah.

1168
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean they're hot. They loved them loved, But I

1169
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: feel so old watching the show now. Sure, well, because

1170
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: I think the fifteen is kind of reminiscent of season seven,

1171
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: when it was like acknowledging the fact that they were

1172
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: like Instagram. Yeah, this is the first season acknowledge. Ye. Yeah.

1173
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: What's next? I don't know truly nothing nothing. I think

1174
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: nothing is next. I thinks I thinks soon. Oh man, no,

1175
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: I hope not no, no, no, no, not when I

1176
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: have this like Seison night, not seringer. Do you know

1177
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: about the era? No? What is that? It's you're in

1178
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: your flop era. You're flopping if you're like really evolved,

1179
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: if you're like operating it like power power, your charas

1180
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: are you're on your chard. Don't you know about Pokemon? No?

1181
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: Because if you know about Pokemon, she wouldn't sort of

1182
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: say char no, no, no, no, we're not making Wait,

1183
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: someone should, someone should create a charo Charo's ard like

1184
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Charo as a as A as a char Yeah. So

1185
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: basically I think you're in your So I had a

1186
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: flap era. Well I don't don't know why does not

1187
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,480
Speaker 1: imply a flap era, but it just means you're in

1188
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: like a great time. Yeah, okay, great, Yes, this is

1189
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: my Charos era. Yes, yes, yes, you said it. This

1190
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: is my Charos era, Taro's era. Yeah yeah, I like

1191
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: that in the dairy section what this is? But how

1192
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: do you know? I can't read that at all? That

1193
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 1: is so good? So do you not read? I think

1194
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: what was intuited was that she wasn't wearing her glasses, right,

1195
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? By the way, what if

1196
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: she couldn't read Eliah Michelle Parto? I mean, listen, Patrick

1197
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: Dempsey gets his script read to him because yes, every

1198
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: yeah right, just LEXI is real. So, so this is

1199
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: our last episode for the Oscars. Let's discuss watch nothing.

1200
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Really, I've seen nothing. So you've

1201
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: not seen everything everywhere? Well I have seen that. Have

1202
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: you seen Tar? No? I have not, first of all,

1203
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: because everyone's like your tar and know what that means.

1204
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you're like, you're giving tar vibes. No,

1205
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. That's not a compliment. I'm

1206
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: assuming it's not. What part of them that's kind of

1207
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: part of the conversation around Tar is like tar is

1208
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: tar iconica? Or is she okay but in an iconic way? Okay?

1209
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: But let's give final predictions. Is it Kate Planchet or

1210
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: Michelle yo Oh? I think it's Michelle. I think it's Michelle.

1211
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: I think it's I think everything. I think the Saguin

1212
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: is giving Michelle every Yeah, almost all the precursor she's won. No,

1213
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: Kate was on a roll of the Critics Awards. She

1214
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: won the Critics Choice Award, she won the Golden Well,

1215
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: they both won Golden But I think that the juice

1216
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: was with Kate and then Michelle winning the sag and

1217
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: then Michelle also winning the Indie Spirit Award for Best

1218
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Lead Performance, which combines men and women, right right, because

1219
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: the gendered categories are sort of by the way. I'm

1220
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: curious to see when the Oscars do something with that,

1221
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: because it's gotta be coming. There's a campaign for it. Yeah.

1222
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: The thing about the Tar thing is a lot of

1223
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: like the Mimi discourse around it is like are like

1224
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 1: jokes that she's like a real person and like Otar

1225
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be on Sesame Street whatever you know, like um,

1226
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: And so I think that is kind of like a

1227
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: subliminal thing of like, oh, Cape Blanchet rendered this character

1228
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: so yes in such a way that like people performance

1229
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: genius performance that that people are like she's a real person.

1230
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: It's like slender Man, slender woman. But I think that, like,

1231
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 1: this is the way I feel about it. Is there

1232
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: such equally powerful iconic signature individual performances in the way

1233
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: that and the readers are hear me, hear me say

1234
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: this at nauseum. But my thing with the oscars is

1235
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: could anyone else have done it? Like? And then could

1236
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 1: anyone else have done it this well? And I feel

1237
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: like with both of them the answers, But for me,

1238
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,720
Speaker 1: when it comes to Cape Blanchet, she's got so many

1239
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 1: wins and nominations already at that ceremony and in her

1240
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,439
Speaker 1: future you can see that there's so many more nominations. Yeah,

1241
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: I think for Michelle Yo, this is her first nomination

1242
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 1: after the incredible career storied cinematic worldwide career that she

1243
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: has and I'm sorry, but in the current landscape of

1244
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: the way the film industry is, you don't know that

1245
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 1: she's going to get another opportunity to have this type

1246
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: of thing. So it's like for me, it's like I

1247
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: understand being a cape Planchet stand and I ride hard

1248
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: for Cape Planchet. I've said many times our greatest living actor,

1249
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: but you gotta give it to Michelle Yo. For me,

1250
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, there's for me, it's but we'll see so

1251
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: amazing the performance. It's so amazing the performance. A thing

1252
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Speaker 1: in her campaign has been I've waited my whole career

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01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: for this script, yes, you know, And like I think

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: she's like knowingly sort of putting out there that like

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01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 1: I really gave this my all. This is i mean

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: not not known. I think there's a huge second win

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01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: for her, which is so exciting, but I just don't

1258
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,920
Speaker 1: know that you can say, we see this opportunity to

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01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,960
Speaker 1: give this woman the best actress Oscar and we're not

1260
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: going to do it, like because there's an equally incredible performance,

1261
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: but for someone that already has won twice and likely

1262
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: because of the way that careers like hers go will

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01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: have maybe even like I compared her career at this

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: point in her life to Meryl Streep. Mertyle Streep has

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01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: had many nominations since she was Cape Lynchet's age, and

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01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: I would put them in the compartable conversation in terms

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: of roles that they're going to play, and let it

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01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: be known Cape Lynchet will be nominated for more Oscars,

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01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: and I just think, don't waste this chance to give

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01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 1: someone their flowers that has done so much, so incredibly

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 1: well and means so much to so many people, Like

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01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a no brainer. I think it's

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01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: it's a shoe and for Best Picture, because yes, I agree.

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01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I haven't seen anything else, but it

1275
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: was truly one of the most revolutionary things and graphic

1276
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: it just masterpieces I've ever seen in my life. You

1277
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: know What's funny, Like I would personally give Michelle Best Actress.

1278
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Stephanie for Best support I mean, it's

1279
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 1: so cool, but she's an old friend of ours. She's incredible,

1280
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 1: And I would give Key Best Supporting Actor one hundred percent.

1281
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's close for me between and Tar

1282
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 1: will not win Best Picture. But for me, my favorite

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01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 1: movie of the year, it's very close. For me, Everything everywhere,

1284
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: all at once at Tar, like those are my two

1285
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: frolms of the year, the same those are my two

1286
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 1: favorite movies of the year. Everything Everyone all ons is

1287
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: like this amazing reinvention of a thing that's already felt

1288
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,600
Speaker 1: like a stale trope in Hollywood, which is like multiverse movies. Yes,

1289
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,920
Speaker 1: like and like even people at Marvel, Like I think

1290
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: I've heard through the grape vine people at Marvel being

1291
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: like they did it better, they did it better. And

1292
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: with Tar, I feel like it's an amazing movie. It's

1293
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 1: a great satire in a lot of ways. It's a

1294
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 1: fantasy about what cancel culture is because because like the

1295
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: way she ends up is not anything that actually happens,

1296
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: has happened to someone in the real world, right, you know,

1297
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: Like literally the ending of the movie is like so

1298
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: funny and shocking us, and you're supposed to be like that.

1299
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: That's that is like truly outland. I mean, I'm going

1300
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: off tonight. I'm off tonight. Yeah you watch Yeah, maybe

1301
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: I'm actually stopping by Ellen start Destiner after this and

1302
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: then wait to Eat. They do use my name. They do.

1303
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: Of course they do so excited. They have a bucket.

1304
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: They have a tip bucket on the hour, every hour

1305
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: that they go around and they get money from the

1306
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: tourists and the like, and then like we have success stories.

1307
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 1: Oh they made it Tenny themed Banana split Sunday, So

1308
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: take a picture. Are you going to sing a song?

1309
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Yeah, I'm off yeah, actually, and then I'm

1310
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: gonna watch tar. I'm gonna force Connie to do it. Yeah.

1311
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: It was Connie back from skiing. Yeah. Yeah, and we

1312
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: lived together. Oh my god, non sexual life partner. Where's

1313
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: the pilot? Beautiful? Wait? And also I want to shout

1314
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: out Connie because the sort of first time I saw

1315
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 1: Connie perform was in Cruel Intentions to the musical, which

1316
01:09:06,360 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: does a very similar thing. Yeah, because our friend who

1317
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned was swinging and she was on for the

1318
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: Sarah Michelle Geller lead for like a couple of weeks,

1319
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 1: and so I saw her and Connie do that because

1320
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: he was the Ryan Philippi Yeah, yeah, part And what

1321
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 1: I love when she told me, which I'm going to

1322
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: ask him as cool if I share this, but he

1323
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: said that a lot of cast members of Cruel Intentions

1324
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: would come to the show, was just talking about this

1325
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: and and he said that Reese Witherspoon when she came,

1326
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: was like, I can't really look at you because you're

1327
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 1: might mean too much my ex husband and like actually

1328
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 1: was actually actually was like you were so great. I

1329
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: can't engage because I guess that was the movie where

1330
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 1: they met, so like it had to trigger her in

1331
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,840
Speaker 1: like a crazy way. Tara Reid also came. Tary read

1332
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: of the iconic have you seen that video for me?

1333
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm a hot in it? Hot in it, I'm popping it.

1334
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: I'll send it to you. It is still she was like, wow, man,

1335
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 1: that was super awesome. Man. He played her as if

1336
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: she was like like a high frapp ro be, Like whoa, man,

1337
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: that was super awesome. Man. You're doing a good Oh

1338
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 1: really yeah, fashion fashion style. I'll take both and from

1339
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: something we have to move on. I think I don't

1340
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: think so, honey. So this is our big segment really

1341
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: where we take one minute to rail against something in

1342
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,560
Speaker 1: culture that's shopping our fucking ass and not in the

1343
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: chars on we don't stand for it. I have something

1344
01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,720
Speaker 1: okay that I think people can relate to. I really do.

1345
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: Those are the best one relatability is clutch. Clutch a

1346
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: culture number fifty one relatability. This is Matt Rogers. I

1347
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,679
Speaker 1: don't think Sony, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey,

1348
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: when you change the name of the group thread, yeah,

1349
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:01,120
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to find you guys. And if you

1350
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,679
Speaker 1: change the name of the group thread, like think because

1351
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: what of my search wards? Where are my girls? You

1352
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,639
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, especially like you fifthy gays out

1353
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: there like trying to make your little jokes, like I

1354
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 1: don't know what's topic about the time. I'd have been

1355
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: busy that day. I didn't know that Angela Bassett did

1356
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 1: the thing is now the name of the group chatting

1357
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: on Twitter. But let me go get to that one

1358
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 1: on Twitter first, and then I can not it's the

1359
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: group chat. My favorite name of my gay group chat

1360
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 1: recently was women Talking. Oh, I wanted to be called

1361
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: women talking. I love when women talk and share information

1362
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 1: in a group chat, and that's how you move forward.

1363
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: But then the whole I don't think, so honey, when

1364
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I go back second and it's some reference to something else.

1365
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 1: And for a while my gay group chat was having

1366
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,920
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with the name Tar and then

1367
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: it was women tarking, and I don't think so, honey

1368
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: that we had to move on from that. Right now

1369
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: it's weather with the Tar Tar thing over the e.

1370
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy as I like, that's crazy weather. I

1371
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Yeah, that is very real. You

1372
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: cannot do that yet I'm about to really just give

1373
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: you a different flavor. Do you know this? I know this,

1374
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: and I think I know who is changing the names

1375
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: in your this group. Sometimes I change it too. Well,

1376
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: then you're oh, then you're just no, No, I can't

1377
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: guess it. If you can't try yourself, how are you

1378
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: gonna drag somebody else? Can I get a name in?

1379
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: But sometimes I do it. I like consistency, familiarity. I

1380
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: think we have a group chat that's been the same

1381
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 1: for a while a long time. Yeah, twink cores and

1382
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: now it's just three yeah, because there's there's vernacular whim.

1383
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: We had some bit one day in the chat of like, oh,

1384
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 1: we're all gonna cored a twin, we get cord, We're

1385
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: gonna get We're gonna get cord. Got it? It depends

1386
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: on what the sexual identity of the group chat at

1387
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 1: large is. For a while you were like we are

1388
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: the chord because we were bottoming a lot getting Cord out,

1389
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: and then then we were the thing. It's a sexual thing,

1390
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,839
Speaker 1: it's a game thing. It's a sexual things to disgusting

1391
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,600
Speaker 1: is disgusting. Yeah, and that's one of the rules of

1392
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 1: culture number two disgusting. Um. And then we have another

1393
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: group chat called the coop. The coop. There's a whole

1394
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 1: story there, but we're basically a chicken coop. Yes where

1395
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 1: you got were a coupe that hands and we cluck okay,

1396
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: love it. Know. Anytime we were about to meet up

1397
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: with it was like, can't wait to club music man,

1398
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: music man. Sometimes little talk a little Yeah, when you

1399
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: when you throw out the feed, that means you're sort

1400
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 1: of like seeing if the coop is going to come

1401
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 1: out that night. I love that hands. Do you know

1402
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 1: pluck can club? I support that being cord. I don't

1403
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: like that. It is upsetting, not in your back house.

1404
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:49,559
Speaker 1: That is exactly what it is. I do identify as

1405
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,400
Speaker 1: a gay man. That's exactly what it is. I knew that, Yeah,

1406
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: I knew you were that girl, that girl I have one.

1407
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 1: I love when you have personal it's person myself and uh,

1408
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 1: we got someone listening to and it's too bowen yangs.

1409
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And one of the things

1410
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: that is gonna happen is I'm gonna get my phone out.

1411
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 1: I hit the thing. But when Yang, your time starts now,

1412
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,799
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The Uber driver in London

1413
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:21,080
Speaker 1: who pulled up to the side before letting me out,

1414
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: he said, I have to show you something. I go

1415
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: what he goes, You're uber rating it's low. I said,

1416
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: what is it? Four point eight? I said that's low.

1417
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: He said that's very low. He's like, what are you doing?

1418
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I have not vomited in a single car.

1419
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 1: I am quiet as a mouse. I'm not always on time.

1420
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 1: What could this possibly be? So Uber? I don't mean

1421
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 1: to be all called the manager right now, but talk

1422
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: to the manager right now. I'm a little Karen, but

1423
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: I need to make this right because this driver made

1424
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: it seem like I was seen truly like persona on

1425
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: Gratta in the streets of London, and I need to

1426
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: be taking these cars because you work there. I work

1427
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 1: there now, and that time the tube is really amazed

1428
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: and I don't really know how to navigate it that well,

1429
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's one minute. And that's what I meant.

1430
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: I would say, is it's crazy that you got dragged

1431
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 1: for a four point eight because after my experience in

1432
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: the Sydney I'm at a I'm at a four point six. Wow,

1433
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: but is that even low? Which means yes, I means

1434
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: he gave me like a zero yeah yeah, I mean

1435
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:27,600
Speaker 1: I mean the state of his car, and was like,

1436
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: let me get on this app all, let me dragund

1437
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: I don't care how much money they zelled. Oh my,

1438
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 1: but to be fair, like, no offense. You did deserve that.

1439
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: I really don't know what I could have done. I

1440
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: know what you did accumulate, but that happened to me.

1441
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: Someone was like, you recently got a low star rating.

1442
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 1: I was like, excuse me, I'm there. Literally at the

1443
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 1: second that they pull up, I say, hi, how are you?

1444
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: I don't say a fucking word, and they dropped them

1445
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: off as thank you so much. I always tipped them

1446
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 1: twenty percent five star ratings across the board. I was like,

1447
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: what did I do? And then you can't like go back.

1448
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Conye isn't here to call you out because

1449
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: he probably observes your behavior. I observe your I've told

1450
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 1: you this before I walk into the street, not that

1451
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 1: it's the way you get into the car. You crawl

1452
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: on the seats. I'm not getting on dirty Bowen. They

1453
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,599
Speaker 1: don't know that, and maybe you are. That's not gonna

1454
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: warrant like you listen to me, Readers, Readers reach out

1455
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: with what you think. But when you're getting readers, when

1456
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: you when you get they're the readers raiders. So listen readers.

1457
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: When you're getting into an uber, you go foot first

1458
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 1: and the foot hits the ground. Bowen Yang crawls knees

1459
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: first into the car. I've never seen anything like it.

1460
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,639
Speaker 1: And yes, you do sort of like you are one

1461
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 1: to sort of really make yourselves known in the street

1462
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: like Bowen is. I wouldn't have no patience. There have

1463
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: been no incidents. There's no like moment. There's no moment

1464
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: where some driver could go, oh no, that's a demerit.

1465
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But but you're incorrect because

1466
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,799
Speaker 1: you've been demerited and told by one of the dolls

1467
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: themselves you've done wrong. You can't call them. This is

1468
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: the fight of my life. I need to get this

1469
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 1: back up. Do you feel like you physically could change, Like,

1470
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: could you change? Could you on my first behavior? Not

1471
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 1: that I wasn't before, that's the fucking thing. I would

1472
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: get in trouble in school for not even doing well.

1473
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: I just this is like a triggering thing for me.

1474
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if you guys were those kids

1475
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 1: in school would get in trouble for like teacher. I

1476
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: guess it would depend on the teacher. I felt like

1477
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 1: I got dinged a lot for like nothing, and I'd

1478
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: be like, there's literally like a kid doing drugs, like

1479
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: two desks. What are you doing? Those teachers are scared

1480
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: of that kid? Fuck? I mean, it's whatever you're going

1481
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,719
Speaker 1: through it going through people need to. I think people

1482
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: get an Asian joy and they go, I'm not afraid

1483
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: of him. Oh my god, I'm bringing race into this. Yeah,

1484
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,960
Speaker 1: I would. I get you would if you were. Let

1485
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 1: me tell you something. If I was not white, i'd

1486
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 1: bring race into yeah, And I'm bring right now, And

1487
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: that's your right anyway. I'm sorry, Thank you for following me. Okay,

1488
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: they're both so good. You're don't worry about it. It's

1489
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: not like that. It's not like that. It's not like that.

1490
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,800
Speaker 1: You guys like that. It's really you don't need to

1491
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 1: say about I don't think so honey. Is I'm gonna

1492
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: try that. I'm gonna try that. Yeah, don't let me forget.

1493
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:35,000
Speaker 1: Before we end the episode, I have to show you

1494
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:37,759
Speaker 1: a video. I have to play something for the readers

1495
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: and us, all okay after Marles, I don't think, so

1496
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 1: honey before we sing the song and m okay, I mean, okay,

1497
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,920
Speaker 1: all right. This is Marla Mondell's I don't think so honey.

1498
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 1: Her time starts now, okay. Mine is musical theater specific,

1499
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Hashtag first day of school?

1500
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, that's an

1501
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 1: on Facebook. I'm on Facebook, which also I don't think

1502
01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: so honey. Any One that's on Facebook that's also an actor,

1503
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: which is all of my friends posts a picture of

1504
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 1: the script being like hashtag first day of school. I'm

1505
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 1: here to tell you musical theater is not school. I

1506
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: don't think, so honey. I went to school for musical theater. Basically,

1507
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: you get a degree in air. I have a certificate

1508
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: that says I can tap dance, and you know what,

1509
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: you can parlay tap dancing into I don't know, financial planning.

1510
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: I would go to school for anything else besides musical

1511
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: theater because you can probably make more working at the

1512
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,599
Speaker 1: MTA than you can doing the regional production of Derby

1513
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 1: Dinners Playhouses Cats, which I did when I was twenty

1514
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,320
Speaker 1: years old on pop Rownies the entire time, and I

1515
01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: made three hundred dollars a week. Oh so basically, what

1516
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I don't want people to cancel musical theater,

1517
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: but I am asking everyone to cancel actors on Facebook,

1518
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 1: and I think we can do it. Th First, I'm

1519
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna say this, all actors too cool for Facebook. You're

1520
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: too cool for it. I obviously am not, no, and

1521
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you're too cool. Okay. Why do you

1522
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: find yourselves on that? Still? Okay? I find myself on

1523
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 1: it because honestly, Connie will drag me for this. We

1524
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: got an apartment. I was like, we're going to get

1525
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: everything on Facebook Marketplace. I'm not paying top I'm on

1526
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 1: Facebook Marketplace an hour every single day, looking up everything,

1527
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: asking hey is this available? And I never follow through whatever.

1528
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: I don't buy a fucking thing, So then I've done

1529
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 1: it for eight months. It should be a real course

1530
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: of action for no sum Literally, Suemy, take me off

1531
01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 1: the platform. I don't deserve to be on there, Connie,

1532
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 1: platforms I should be. I should be. I'm only on

1533
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,800
Speaker 1: for the marketplace. That's literally it but a sorry thing

1534
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: to be. And so you don't you don't need it,

1535
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 1: then I don't. You don't buy anything because I don't

1536
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: buy anything. But I'm always like, I want to get

1537
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,919
Speaker 1: a deal. I see like John Riddle's apartment. It's beautiful,

1538
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,560
Speaker 1: everything is, everything is like I got it on the

1539
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: marketplace for five dollars. I'm want to do this. I

1540
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: can do this. I forgot I forget that. The marketplace,

1541
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,759
Speaker 1: it's like me, the first thing I look at, not Instagram,

1542
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: it's the marketplace. Oh look at this west elm Chaz

1543
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: for five hundred dollars. Maybe I should get it. I

1544
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: send it to Connie. I don't do anything about it.

1545
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: That's so healthy, that's so much healthier. That's healthier than

1546
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,799
Speaker 1: Instagram though, Yeah, it is for sure, Oh so much healthier.

1547
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, forget it. The thing is listen what

1548
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: I want you to do when you buy one thing

1549
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: this week? Yeah, in the marketplace is actually, can you

1550
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: reach back out so that we can tell the readers

1551
01:21:19,479 --> 01:21:21,639
Speaker 1: did it and what you got? Yeah, and just tell

1552
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: what you got? Sign in a voicemail? Can you send

1553
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: in a voice memo? We should do We should try

1554
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: to do one episode while I'm still here. I know

1555
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 1: that you're about to be in full ast, so you

1556
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 1: probably can't. Maybe Thursday, maybe Friday, maybe maybe I'll be around. Okay, Um,

1557
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: but I would like to do a culture catch up

1558
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: with just you if that's possible. Build it into your schedule,

1559
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 1: which already has no free time at all the way

1560
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: I demand. But I will make the space for you. Yes,

1561
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: But what I demand of you is you send in

1562
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 1: a voice memo describing what you bought and for how much? Yeah,

1563
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,160
Speaker 1: and describe how the process. Yeah. Ultimately, I think it'll

1564
01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: feel humiliating. I can say that right now. Just be like, hey,

1565
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: it's already humiliating, you know when you're always like will

1566
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 1: you accept one hundred and twenty five dollars for this

1567
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: instead of one hundred and fifty and they're like, oh,

1568
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: I gotta steal I got. Really that's to me that

1569
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 1: basically I know, but it just makes me feel like

1570
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: ikey inside no, okay, okay, thank you part of it.

1571
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 1: You know what, you guys who helped me. I'm going

1572
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: on the marketplace right now. I'm getting this painting that

1573
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,719
Speaker 1: if you're going to Allen Star you have an idea

1574
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: of what you want to do. Yes, yes, I have

1575
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: a painting. I want to get real art. Yeah, that's

1576
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: been like my newest thing. We bought a shitty poster.

1577
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 1: It looks terrible in our apartment, and we bought something

1578
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,600
Speaker 1: that we called Teal Wix, who's an actress. Basically, we

1579
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 1: got a Teal storage locker. Looks terrible in the apartment.

1580
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: We call it Teal Wicks. And I'm like, two Wicks

1581
01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: has got to go with this poster and we're gonna

1582
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:46,840
Speaker 1: get a painting instead that I know that is my

1583
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: So you already know you can already mission shop. I'm

1584
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: going a mission shop. Amazing. So you're gonna go to

1585
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 1: Allen startus tonight. You're gonna take the picture of the

1586
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: watching you're going on fook Yeah, yeah, thank you with that.

1587
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 1: I have this, um this is the beginning of a

1588
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: porn of a gay porner. And you know sometimes they'll

1589
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: do like a scene in the beginning that's the best part.

1590
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 1: Let me set it out. Okay, So there's there's two

1591
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: gays on and one gay says to the other because

1592
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 1: it's kind of muffled because they're porn actors. They're not

1593
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: like good, They're not, he says. He says the sound

1594
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: on set was not iconic. A Jones the one gather

1595
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 1: have you seen this? Watch this? Okay? And then here

1596
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: we go, have you seen this clip? Watch all the way? Sorry,

1597
01:23:39,880 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: they're watching the clip. She's so funny, she's right up

1598
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: and then they started making out. God, can I say

1599
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:05,960
Speaker 1: it has gotten to the point where gays really are

1600
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: trying to murder this woman. Yeah, and it is not

1601
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: just a line from Hiltis. We have to stop this behavior.

1602
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: I could cause specific people. You were killing her. We're

1603
01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: making her into a gay meme and it's not going

1604
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: to sir her going forward, because now she's in this

1605
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: porn and these gays are acting badlier on her, and

1606
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: now people, what if she became best known for this?

1607
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: What it has the power? What you mustn't forget for

1608
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: some reason that the meme treatment of Jennifer Coolidge kind

1609
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: of takes something away from the fact that she's this

1610
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: like Groundlings legend, like comedic legend who has been on

1611
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: like every Christopher guest. To me, it's like show the

1612
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 1: woman some respect. It's like, it's you guys, it is

1613
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 1: so funny. I'm gonna reteet. I'm actually gonna retreat it

1614
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: from the account right now. Okay, I'm working it into

1615
01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: sum It's it's beautiful and it's been posted by at

1616
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 1: computer underscore gay at computer underscore bore. His name is

1617
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: man Man. He posted on a March fourth. I've retweeted it.

1618
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: By the way, one of them. They're both like Twinky,

1619
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: one of them wearing a smiley faced T shirt. There's

1620
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 1: like a lower third where the video pops up and

1621
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,640
Speaker 1: you see the Jennifer Coolidge scene, which it has to

1622
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: be illegal. Picture and picture and picture. I so and

1623
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: so then the gays watch it, and the one gay

1624
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,720
Speaker 1: says to the other she's right, and then they I guess,

1625
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: And now I am curious about watching the rest of it.

1626
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I mean it got my attention. Yeah, of course for

1627
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: a gay man to say to watch it Jennifer Coolidge

1628
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 1: clipp and go, she's so funny, is really like and

1629
01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 1: they thought, you know how, so you know how we're

1630
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 1: gonna get our porn out to go viral. We involved

1631
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 1: Jennifer Coolidge and god damn it, they did, and we

1632
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:48,679
Speaker 1: just helped. Yeah, yeah, you're right, we just signal boosted. Well,

1633
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 1: this was a phenomenal episode. Oh oh my god, there

1634
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,680
Speaker 1: so much for having me. I don't deserve to be here.

1635
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: That's not really stop that That's how I feel. Honestly,

1636
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm staring struck. We were, we are so excited. When

1637
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 1: I first wanted to go see the show and I

1638
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: sat in the front row, you came right over to

1639
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: me and like looked at me, and I was like, oh,

1640
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: this must be the seat of the person that she

1641
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: looks at. She must do this. And then afterwards I

1642
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: calp to you and she I was like, we've never met, Like,

1643
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. If you said I know who

1644
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: you are, and I was like, there's no way, because

1645
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: you are. You are an idol to us, but you

1646
01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 1: are simply iconic to me. Nica Jones Simpson and Iconica

1647
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 1: Boninawn Oh my god, I mean you gotta see tight tiny.

1648
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 1: It's now extended through September September tenth, September ten. There's

1649
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: another one after that. But I would not be surprised,

1650
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: I guess. But you you have to probably be the

1651
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: one to end it, right, You're probably gonna be the

1652
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 1: one that has to call it because you are Selene.

1653
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they'll listen at this rate. It's gonna be

1654
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,599
Speaker 1: like Hamilton, do you know what I mean? Like, they'll

1655
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: be like Australian Selene's. They'll be like, are you eligible

1656
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: for any awards for this? I think I might be

1657
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: eligible for like Off Broadway awards. Maybe they FYC starts now, Yeah,

1658
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 1: I mean I think so Drama Desk maybe. I don't know.

1659
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 1: We're going to get all of them. Yeah, start the campaign.

1660
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Start the campaign. We did lose to the Queerties. To

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Speaker 1: drag the musical, We're all Querties losers here. I lost

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Speaker 1: like several Queerties. Did you really? I was like gay

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Speaker 1: Gangs of New York. I took nothing home. I'm a

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Speaker 1: what's your face? What wit? What did you lose? Oh? Best?

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Speaker 1: I lost? Best Comic I Love that for you lost

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Speaker 1: Best Comedy show, Fire Island lost Best Streaming Movie? What what? What?

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Speaker 1: We also lost best podcast? What? Yeah? I'm rigged. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: there's another hardware. So this is again. This has been

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Speaker 1: so this is It's time to we end every episode

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Speaker 1: with a song, so surrenderything, to feel the chest again, hallo.

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Speaker 1: You can bet I'm doing The Kellys should to hear

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Speaker 1: more of that. Go to tights and egg Bye h