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Speaker 1: Warning. This podcast contains spoilers for the video game The

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Speaker 1: Last of Us Part one, as well as spoilers for

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Speaker 1: the first two episodes of The Last of Us on

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Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jason Concepsio.

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Speaker 3: And I am Rosie Knight, and welcome.

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Speaker 1: To x ray Vision, the Crooked media podcast where we

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Speaker 1: dived e pet your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture.

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Speaker 3: In this episode, we are continuing our discussion of the

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Speaker 3: Lost of Us game and things are about to get spooky,

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Speaker 3: time stamps and feel free to unspoiler yourself. But really

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Speaker 3: play The Last of Us.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's jump into it. Let's get into the airlock.

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Speaker 1: Books were stepping out of the airlock and back into

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Speaker 1: the world of the Last of Us, the first installment

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Speaker 1: of the Last of Us series. For our ongoing coverage

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Speaker 1: of Naughty Dog's iconic video game, of Course, some quick

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Speaker 1: facts behind the game. The game was published Last of

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Speaker 1: Us was published on the Sony PlayStation three platform in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. Began it. It really is vintage. I can still

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Speaker 3: I still have one.

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Speaker 1: I still have one. I still have two PS fours. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: development began in two thousand and nine after the release

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Speaker 1: and massive success of Entering Out two. Neil Druckman as

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Speaker 1: Creative directing, the writing of it, and the game is

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Speaker 1: directed by Bruce Strayley. Voice acting and mocap performances in

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Speaker 1: this game are fantastic. Troy Baker as Joel, Ashley Johnson

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Speaker 1: as Marlene. Let's get into it. So this recap is

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Speaker 1: going to cover the second chapter, starting at the second

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Speaker 1: jump into this portion of the game. We open up

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Speaker 1: with Joel and Ellie together, now heading off into the

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Speaker 1: ruins of the open city. Ellie heard the shootout at

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Speaker 1: the Firefly safe house. She asks Joel what happened? What

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Speaker 1: Joel says, Firefly, same thing that's going to happen to

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Speaker 1: loud speakers carrying Fedra's warning that harboring criminals, including the

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Speaker 3: I love to execute someone.

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Speaker 1: They Fedra is very very keen to execute, and so

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Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie have to have to skidattle. They cut

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Speaker 1: And we get some really interesting expo. Ellie says that

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Speaker 1: Ellie has no idea where her parents are now. Joel

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Speaker 1: I think that that's not exactly true, but it's certainly

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Pedro Pascal in two Lone Wolf

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Speaker 1: because he then asks again, so what the what are

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Speaker 3: She loves She's give me those guns. I want these guns, please.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the perfect comparison. She stoked about these guns.

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Speaker 3: And also like there's this implication that the Federer is

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Speaker 3: It's very hard for a game like this where you

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Speaker 3: But Joel questioning the fireflies feel so real. You're like, yes,

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Speaker 3: This is different even from murdering people. But you have

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Speaker 3: the trope, but it's not. It doesn't make sense in

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Speaker 3: believe that Joel is wary, that Joel does not want

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Speaker 1: It's such a good rated wrinkle, but really wonderful generator

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Speaker 3: no one's going to be collecting them and putting them

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Speaker 3: in the pack. But do I think that we'll see

433
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Speaker 3: tests or Joel use a bottle and slash a brick,

434
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Speaker 3: And do I believe that we'll probably get some kind

435
00:24:53,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 3: of modied melee weapon that is kind of of like

436
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: like you would make in the game. I do. I

437
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 3: also think that they translated the tension of the clickers

438
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 3: so well, because like as we're about to get into

439
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: so you can see the state House in the distance,

440
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: but you're not quite there. You got to you've gone

441
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 3: through an office building. That's where you first meet them.

442
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: They're terrifying. You can kind of sneak around them. We're

443
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 3: about to head into like some we've got to climb

444
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: outside the office building on this terrifying like window washing carriage.

445
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 3: Then you're going to go into the subway. There's multiple

446
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 3: different parts because this is a game and you want

447
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: to get that long term gameplay. But in the show, right,

448
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 3: they just send you right into the museum because they

449
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 3: know that they need to have that impact and instead

450
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: of the tension of you must craft something, the tension

451
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 3: there just all comes from the cinematography and the hiding.

452
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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. And again, you like, you know,

453
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: people can have different opinions.

454
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Speaker 3: And the best thing is the game still exists. Yeah,

455
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: the game, so you can still go and you can

456
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: still craft, and you can still experience that part.

457
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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure as a viewer that the ex

458
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Speaker 1: experience of watching our characters stop for twenty minutes to

459
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: tape a coke bottle onto a gun is like the

460
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Speaker 1: best most thrilling television like that you could watch. You

461
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 1: want to watch them get right into it. And so

462
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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think all the changes they've

463
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: made have been for the better, and I actually think

464
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a conversation for another day, but

465
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Speaker 1: I think one of the reefs so to speak, that

466
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: the ship of video game adaptations has crashed on over

467
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 1: the years has been this idea that we need to

468
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 1: translate the game to the to.

469
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Speaker 6: The translate the game play with fidelity, right, we need

470
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Speaker 6: to like, we need to have that moment in Doom

471
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Speaker 6: where all of a sudden, the rock goes into POV

472
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 6: first person and you see the gun.

473
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Speaker 1: No, you don't need that, you don't, you really don't

474
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Speaker 1: need that to tell the story. The trio navigate to

475
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Speaker 1: a window washing carriage still hanging from its cables after

476
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: twenty years. Great your moment, really fun moment, and then

477
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: eventually to a subway station which is just absolutely fucking

478
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: riddled with it.

479
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 3: You've got to be shooting some monsters in the head.

480
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: Actually, I guarantee you will die.

481
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 3: You will die so many times. But this does it

482
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,239
Speaker 3: in This introduces probably my favorite crafting thing, which I

483
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: do believe we'll see in the show at one point,

484
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: which is the Molotov cocktail. And it's so cool because

485
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: if you when when you're in a subway, you learn

486
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: how to make a Molotov cocktail and you collect the

487
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 3: bits to make it. As this game is very much

488
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 3: about collecting, which kind of funny because it made me

489
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 3: realize how much it's like a cozy game. It's like

490
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: murder animal crossing. It's like you have to collect all

491
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 3: the things to do your recipes, but when you have

492
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 3: the Molotov cocktail. The best, most satisfying part of the

493
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: programming of this game is that if you hit a

494
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 3: clicker with it, it will draw any other clickers with

495
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: its screams, so you can kind of draw them and

496
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: use it to sneak past and I found that to

497
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 3: be a very useful technique, and that really first comes

498
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: through in the subway. I'm excited to see if we'll

499
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: see a version of the subway this subway sequence, and

500
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: then you know, later on in the game, as we're

501
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: going to talk about, they kind of go in subway again.

502
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see if we get a subway

503
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: setting in the show, because it feels like it is

504
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: quite a memorable part of the game. But there's so

505
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 3: much to fit into this first season.

506
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Speaker 1: There really is. In the subway station, they find a

507
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: body of a firefly, and at this point our heroes

508
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: begin beginning to wonder if they're even going to be

509
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: any fireflies. At the drop off point, with Ellie test

510
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: leads the way. She gets them through a short cut

511
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 1: through other ruins that take them to the place they

512
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 1: need to go. Joel gets a one of those rolling

513
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: garage doors open just in time to avoid You gotta

514
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: fucking be tapping.

515
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: It'll be holden.

516
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: And here is where we get some fun modding. When

517
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Speaker 1: if you're playing, you get to now, you've probably unlocked

518
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: some other modding perks by the point, and your mileage

519
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: may vary again, but you're probably making health. You're probably

520
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: moddeling your weapons. Ellie tells Tess about how she was infected,

521
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: same as in the show. She was hanging out at

522
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: the mall in the QZ. No one's supposed to go

523
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: in there, but she got attacked by a runner, not

524
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: a clicker, and in her panic, she went to go

525
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Speaker 1: see Marlene, who, rather than execute Ellie, just decided to

526
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,959
Speaker 1: wait and see if the infection would take its course. Now, eventually,

527
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: our heroes find themselves in a museum and the building

528
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: is fucked. It is an advanced case.

529
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: Scary. Is really scary.

530
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: Is collapsing around them in different stages. And a collapsing

531
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Speaker 1: beam separates Joel from Tests and Ellie, and then you

532
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: hear Test scream Joel, they're here, and then they run

533
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: off and who knows what's happening with them? Joel? You

534
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: as Joel player as Joel now has to fight their way,

535
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: you know, through different infected sneaking around them, fighting them

536
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: when necessary to pick again. Your mileage may vary. I

537
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: don't know how good you are at the game, but

538
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: I barely made it out several times.

539
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 3: This was the funniest thing time.

540
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: Many times here.

541
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Speaker 3: I was thinking a lot about like why they chose

542
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Speaker 3: the museum, because there's so many different segments that didn't

543
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 3: make it in. But then I was thinking like, well,

544
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 3: it took me a long time, and there's like a

545
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 3: lot of strategy that you have to work out for

546
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 3: like the runners and the clickers and kind of the

547
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: time that they come in and the clickers in berserk

548
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: mode and everything. And I was like, oh, this is

549
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: in there, because I know that no matter how good

550
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: you are at games like this, you googled how to

551
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: get out of the museum at least once. Every single

552
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: person who played this game did that.

553
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Speaker 1: And by the way, here's another thing that hasn't been

554
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 1: adapted for the television show. Joel's incredibly precise ability to

555
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: hear where enemies are through walls.

556
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: Oh, I love this. Yeah, he needs to be doing

557
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: this more in the game.

558
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: He needs to be doing that more. After the fight,

559
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie share a moment looking at the State House.

560
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: You know, they're on the roof. Now there's a fresh sunrise.

561
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. Tests is like, hey, let's let's fucking go, guys,

562
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: Let's pick it up. Joel says, yes, ma'am. They come

563
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: across more firefly bodies.

564
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 3: Now.

565
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: One of them is carrying orders, which you, as the player,

566
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: can read, and indeed you should. They say, quote ensure

567
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: no military presence before moving the girl to the next

568
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: safe house, and then scribbled in handwriting underneath the typed orders,

569
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: quote make sure the girl is well fed and in

570
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: good health. Her safety is of the utmost importance. Now

571
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: they're moving through Boston Commons, which is like a flooded

572
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 1: swamp now, and eventually they get to the State House.

573
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: They find all the fireflies dead. Test searches the bodies,

574
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, hoping that there's a clue, a map, something

575
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: that says where they're going, so that they can finish

576
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: this deal and get the guns and all the you know,

577
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: who knows what else. You know, where's that? Lab Ellie

578
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: just says, somewhere out west. She doesn't know. Tests and

579
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Joel now argue and just like an episode two. Test

580
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: reveals that she has been bitten somewhere in the museum

581
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: during that fight. Oops, right, she says. Test grabs Ellie's arm,

582
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: rolls Ellie's sleeve up, shows it to Joel and says, look,

583
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: that's a three week old bite versus my bite from

584
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: an hour ago.

585
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 3: This is real.

586
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: This is real, Joel, this is fucking real, real. You've

587
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: got to get this girl to Tommy's. And it's so

588
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: a truck of fedra show up at this moment. But

589
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: it's actually really interesting. I find myself wondering if that

590
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: truck doesn't show up, I kind of think Joel says, no,

591
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I'm not going.

592
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think so too. I think I think

593
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: that Joel would have probably waited, or he would have

594
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: had to Test, would have had to shoot him, or

595
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: he would have had to shoot Tests like it was

596
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 3: not He wasn't gonna leave like this is. This is

597
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: just going to be another unrelenting loss.

598
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I certainly don't think he escorts Ellie any

599
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: further west with Tests out of the picture. I think

600
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: he goes back to the QZ and just decides to

601
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: become an even more aggressive and dedicated murder, smuggler, criminal

602
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: to kind of like numb the pain.

603
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 3: He say he's the next Robert.

604
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I certainly don't think he's going to

605
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, what the fuck, I'll take Ellie.

606
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: I also think it's really interesting because that in that moment,

607
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 3: that's the first time that we see Tests have hope,

608
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 3: and it's just before she's about to die. She's like,

609
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: this is real. Get this girl to Tommy's. Like the

610
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 3: implication there is like you can fucking save the world,

611
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 3: Like this is the cure we've been waiting for. This

612
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 3: is actually real. I feel like when they were making

613
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: this show, I feel like Drugman and Mason and the

614
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: crew they were probably that was the moment they probably

615
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: to expand on Tessa's character because it feels so true

616
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: to who she is in the show. And then we

617
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: get this really interesting moment because, like you said, Fedra,

618
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: I love that they changed this in the show to

619
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 3: the infected. I think it's really affected. We've seen the

620
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: evils of Fedra, but in the game it is horrific.

621
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Speaker 1: Test spends her last moments begging Joel to take Ellie,

622
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: and then when he does and they exit the area

623
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Speaker 1: holding off the feder troops. She dies.

624
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: You hear her screaming as you run away, and you

625
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 3: hear them shooting her.

626
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: So Joel takes Ellie through a door and now you're

627
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: on the other side of it, like a in a

628
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: large fourier or something. And Ellie is absolutely shocked that

629
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: they left us. She can't fucking believe it. She's like,

630
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: we left her to die. She's just met Tests and

631
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: watch Test commit a murder, and it tells you a

632
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 1: lot about Ellie. Again, we mentioned this in our previous

633
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: episodes about the show and the game, how Ellie is

634
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: the only person that you encounter in this world who

635
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: actually cares about other people.

636
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, value, just baseline, just baseline is like, we

637
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: can't just leave her.

638
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: I know she was in fact, well, we can't just

639
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: leave her to die. And I think that it's important

640
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: to remember that as we move towards the ending of

641
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: the Last of Us game, because everything we know about

642
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: Ellie in this game is that she wants to help

643
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: people and have given the full information.

644
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 3: About how she might be able to cure, how.

645
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: A cure could be developed from her. I think there's

646
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 1: no question she says, I'll do it. No matter the cost,

647
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I will do it. And it's hard to remember the

648
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Joel never like he's doing what Tess said here, but

649
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: he's kind of forced into it, and at the end

650
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: of the day, he kind of doesn't respect Ellie's agency.

651
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: As much as he loves her, he doesn't respect her

652
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: point of view.

653
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: X Ray Vision will be back and we're back.

654
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie have to evade the Federer to escape

655
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: the state House, and it's more fun action. It's here

656
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: that the player as Joel, acquires the hunting rifle for

657
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: the first time. Yeah, it's also here that Ellie starts

658
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: asking for a gun, of course.

659
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: And also like this is the really this is the

660
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: really head fuck moment, which is like you've just they've

661
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: just killed Tess. So narratively and emotionally, you just want

662
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: to kill all of the soldiers because you know that

663
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: they just killed her, but you have to stealth to

664
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: survive that you cannot. There is like a number of

665
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: soldiers and the only soldier you really really have to

666
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 3: physically kill is the one who's like guarding the doors

667
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 3: so you can't get out. Otherwise you can really stealth

668
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 3: and occasionally, you know, to strangle people are you killing

669
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: You can decide, you can say you're just you're just

670
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: doing a relanked choke that they're just gonna wake up,

671
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: but probably killing him. But like, it's really interesting because

672
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 3: they set you up again to be in this emotional

673
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: angry state that Joel would be in, which is like,

674
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: fuck them, they killed this one person who was my partner.

675
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 3: And then the game's like, Nana, no, if you want

676
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 3: to survive and gal of this statehouse alive, you gotta

677
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 3: you gotta just ignore them. You got to just focus

678
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 3: on survival. It's so interesting.

679
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: As they're escaping, they encounter a cloud of cordysop spores

680
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: and Joel puts his gas mask on. Ellie just breathes it,

681
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: just breathes it. And if and if Joel was you know,

682
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: had doubts before, surely they are now fading away because

683
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: he is just watching her with his eyes, just breathing

684
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 1: in spores that should cause her to get infected as

685
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: absolutely zero effect. They eventually get above ground and Ellie

686
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: tries to apologize for tests, and Joel says, here's how

687
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: this is going to play out. You don't talk about

688
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: test ever. Matter of fact, we can just keep our

689
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: histories to ourselves. Most importantly, here Joel stresses to Ellie,

690
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: and she's heard this before, but now it's Joel's turn

691
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 1: to tell her that she can't tell anybody about her

692
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: immunity because that will probably mean her death. And also,

693
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: by the way, you got to do exactly what I say.

694
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: You've never been out here before. You don't know what

695
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: it's like I do. It's gonna end back, Yeah, just

696
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: just do what I say. Joel, in need of a

697
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: of a next move, a vehicle would be helpful, decides

698
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: to steer them towards a town called Lincoln, uh, an

699
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: independent town where Joel says, quote, someone owes him some favors.

700
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: So they make the move to Lincoln through the woods,

701
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 1: and Ellie is just reveling in nature, in the in

702
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: the in the Emerald leaves.

703
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: It's so it's.

704
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 3: Such a juxtaposition to the kind of ruins, even the

705
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: overgrown of Boston. This is just pure nature, and Ellie

706
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 3: is so happy to be there.

707
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: One of my like Pavlovian responses to this game happens

708
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: when I think of or hear like at Ellie laughing

709
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: somewhere off on the map. You know you're playing I've

710
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: got headphones on. I'm playing as Joel. I'm looking at

711
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: a thing or I'm scavenging, and I hear Ellie kind

712
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: of laugh. And then you go over and she's looking

713
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: at something.

714
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, giggling or singing, yeah, trying to teach herself how

715
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: to whistle, which she's always doing, and it sounds like

716
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: she's turning into an infected So Joel's always really stressed

717
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: about it.

718
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: So there's one of these moments right here where you

719
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: find Ellie kind of like reveling in a swirl of

720
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: actual fireflies, real fireflies, and then she says, sorry, I

721
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: lost myself there for a moment. It's a wonderful, really

722
00:39:54,760 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: magical moment. Now, apparently this town is inhabited by guy's

723
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: got His name is Bill. He lives somewhere in the town,

724
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: which is riddled with booby traps all along the way.

725
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: Now they can see kind of a single fire or something,

726
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, maybe half a mile maybe three quarters a

727
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: mile into the town, and that's probably where Bill is.

728
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: There's a moment here where Joel and Ellie have to

729
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: be briefly separated, which is really fun. Now, on the

730
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: way to Bill's Joel tells Ellie about Tommy. He says

731
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: that Tommy is I don't know, it's unclear at this point,

732
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: like what his status with the fire.

733
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: He was maybe a former firefly, he was a firefly once.

734
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: It's unclear, but he was there, and that makes Joel

735
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: believe that he'll know what to do without Yeah.

736
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: He's Tommy will know what to do. Meanwhile, Ellie continues

737
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: to you know, communicate wonder about everything she's seeing. They

738
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: pass by like an old garden store.

739
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can dig around and ye contact the stuff.

740
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: And Ellie just fucking loves Godden gnomes.

741
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: It's so cute. She says, man, I had an art

742
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: book filled with these. I always thought they were super cute.

743
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: And then later she finds an arcade game.

744
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: Was like a cool like Wolverine style character on the

745
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 3: front had abandoned pizza parlor, and.

746
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: He's like, did you play this? How do you know

747
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: this game? She's like, no, but I had a friend

748
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: that knew everything about this game. Apparently there was a

749
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: character called Angel Knives whose like Mortal Kombat esque finisher

750
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: Combo was like a gut kick decapitation, and she's like,

751
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: I wish I could play it so. As we noted,

752
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: Bill's town is just booby trapped to the gills, land

753
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: mines up everything. Yeah, he is a guy who knows

754
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: how to acquire things, which has made him helpful to

755
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 1: Joel and Test in the past, and of course they're

756
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: hopeful that he'll be helpful to them now Here. On

757
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: a bread truck heading into the town, Joel finds a

758
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: bow and arrow, which is extremely It is probably the

759
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 1: thing I use the most.

760
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: It's really good for headshows.

761
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great, great, great.

762
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, said a bread truck exclamations. Folks, careful, careful,

763
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 3: don't eat that bread.

764
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: Ellie is like, hey, I'm good with the bow and arrow.

765
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: It turned out by the way, you know, and as

766
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: the game progresses into the sequel that she is quite

767
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: good at true, not untrue. But of course Joel is

768
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: certainly not ready to uh to trust this girl he

769
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: just met with a deadly weapon that you know, will

770
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: probably end up stuck out of his back if he

771
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: choos it to her. As they get closer to the

772
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: smoke plume, Joel tells Ellie, uh, hey, just be when

773
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 1: we find Bill. Just be chill. Yeah, just be chilly.

774
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: He's he's weird. He is not going to be trusting

775
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: of strangers. Uh, you know, and he says he closes

776
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: by saying, you know, he's a good guy, but you know,

777
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: let me do the talking. Ellie agrees. Joel leads Ellie

778
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: to what looks like an old mechanic's garage, and here

779
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: is where one of Bill's traps strikes with really really

780
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: dangerous and cool effect. This is one of the kind

781
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: of this is one of the most unique action scenes

782
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: in this game. It is really fun. So there's a

783
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: loud bang, a rattle of chains, and next thing you know,

784
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: you as Joel are upside down, hanging by your leg

785
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: from the ceiling. En snarreted one of Bill's traps anchored

786
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: on the other side by a refrigerator. Joel is like, Ellie,

787
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: get getting on top of the refrigerator and cut the

788
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: rope and cut me off of this. Now while Ellie

789
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: is doing that, of course the infected are coming. They've

790
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: been drawn by the sound and they are swarming everywhere.

791
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: And so now you, as Joel, hanging upside down, have

792
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: to shoot these infected really as best you can with

793
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:52,720
Speaker 1: your limited.

794
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: And there's like it starts off with runners, who do

795
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: you think you can deal with? And then the clickers come.

796
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 3: You know, it is so intense and you're at Lea's

797
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 3: probably gonna die a couple of times before you succeed,

798
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: oh for sure.

799
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: And clay on easy and folks, the cutting takes fucking

800
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: for Ellie because the two sections.

801
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, first she starts cuying it and it kind of fools,

802
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 3: and then she has to properly ci and that's when

803
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: the clickers start, and you're really fucked, like you're in trouble.

804
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: And now the clickers are here, the infected, the fast

805
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: ones are here, and they're chasing Ellie all around the

806
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: fucking garage. Joel is is like, hey, hey, come over here,

807
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: look at me, like doing his best to draw their

808
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: attention and shoot them and reload. Finally, Ellie cuts the rope.

809
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Joel lance head first on the ground with an infected

810
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: on top of him, and you're thinking, I'm getting ready

811
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: to jam on this square baby, I'm gonna be hitting

812
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: this square button. But the infected is killed and you

813
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: look up and there is bill Uh and it's you know,

814
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: shades of twenty eight days later. Yeah, that moment where

815
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: they chased by the infected go into the apartment building.

816
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: They're trying by the lights. They crawled to the top

817
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: of the stairs and it's Brendan Gleeson in like a

818
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,879
Speaker 1: full butcher smock and like it's like.

819
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 3: You have the gas mosque and Bill has this long hair.

820
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: He's going to be played by Nick Offerman in this series,

821
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 3: which I think is a very exciting casting. So yeah,

822
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: it's it's a really good scary moment. Like you think

823
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 3: there's relief, but it's it You're not really relieved when

824
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 3: you see him.

825
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: In the game. Bill is voiced by w Earl Brown,

826
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: who you might remember from Deadwood, another classic fantastic show Deadwood.

827
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: Bill leads them to relative safely with the infect it

828
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: always just like a step behind and you're having to

829
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: fight your way out. Now, really fun segment. Eventually you

830
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: get to something like a safehouse that's like a brick

831
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: building that's been kind of like reinforced with metal plates.

832
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Ellie is like, oh, man, thank you so much for

833
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: showing up when you did, and you know that you

834
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: really saved our ass. And then before she can really

835
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: even finish that, Bill has her handcuffed to a pipe

836
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and he's got his gun out and.

837
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: His gun punk. Why would you bring that here?

838
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: Now?

839
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: Honestly, fair play to Joel. I would be pretty fucking

840
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: paranoid too. And you know, Bill rightly says, hey, you

841
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: come here, you come to my house, you set off

842
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: all my traps, You damn your break my arm? What

843
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? And who is this girl?

844
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: Ellie's fierceness, which has been hinted at before and flashes

845
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: during the game, most only that the first meeting of

846
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: Joel and Ellie flashes now. She says, I'm none of

847
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: your goddamn business, and we're here because you owe Joel's favors,

848
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: and you can start by taking these things off she

849
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 1: means to. And Bill is like, favors, What the fuck?

850
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: What favors could I possibly? Oh, Joel? And here we

851
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: get Joel's ask, and Joel's ask, honest is pretty uh,

852
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:04,879
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty shocking to hear. He's like, I need

853
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 1: a car.

854
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, can I just have like a car,

855
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 3: just a whole call?

856
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: Can I have a working car? I've a live battery

857
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: and some gasoline.

858
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: Not too much, not too much.

859
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: Bill is like, first of all, if I had a

860
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: working vehicle, why the funk would I give it to you?

861
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: And to know, Ellie, completely ignoring Joel's earlier warning to

862
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: like not get into it with Bill, gets into it

863
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: with Bill, and Joel has to be like and settle

864
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: her down. Joel then notes, Hey, there's a lot of

865
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: like wrecked cars around here, Like couldn't you You're very handy, Bill,

866
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: you could like assemble something.

867
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

868
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: Bill has that kind of know how, and he kind

869
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: of comes around and decides to do it. He shows

870
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: Joel and Ellia map of his town showing important locations.

871
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: He says, Okay, here's what's going to happen, Joel, you

872
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: and Ellie for all I care. I don't give a shit.

873
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Gather the stuff that I need from these places marked

874
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: on the map, and then bring it back, and you know,

875
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Maybe I can put together something

876
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 1: that runs. But after this, he says, I owe you nothing,

877
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: and he gives Joel the handcuff key to unlock Ellie

878
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 1: and he leads them through the booby trapped town. Bill

879
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 1: is like, worst tests. You guys are thick as thieves.

880
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Usually where's she at? Joel's like, oh, you know, she

881
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: not heroes and this is just a simple drop off job.

882
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: The stuff Bill needs is on the other side of

883
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: his town. So the first place that we stop is

884
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: the armory, which is a very useful area for the

885
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,240
Speaker 1: players because now you're restocking on ammo, on fucking health,

886
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: on shit bricks, fucking pipes.

887
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 3: Which was until this point you've only been able to

888
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: do by shiving your way into like random locked rooms,

889
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: which waste one of your weapons that you really need

890
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 3: to kill clickers. So it's it's a it's a double

891
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 3: edged sword. But this is a great moment of relief.

892
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 3: They're lumbing us into a false sense of security.

893
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: Is there's a great moment that tells you who Bill

894
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: is right. There's a there's an infected that has been

895
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: ensnared in one of his traps, and Bill is just

896
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: casually like, hey, you didn't answer my question about where

897
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: Tess is while decapitating infected. You know, it's so good.

898
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: There's another here. As they're moving through these kind of

899
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: like dead vehicles in the middle of the street, there's

900
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: another infected swarm that that you as the player have

901
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: to fight off. Really fun moment, and eventually they get

902
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: past that. Bill tells Joel about why he chose this

903
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: town because Joel is like, this is kind of you're

904
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: kind of vulnerable here. No, And Bill says like no,

905
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: because the infected are really predictable. And he says, and

906
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: this will be you know again, and every zombie movie

907
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: foreshadowing this is the Every zombie movie has this hypothesis.

908
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: Bill says, quote, it's normal people who scare me. You

909
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: of all people should understand that. And that's twenty eight

910
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: days later.

911
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 3: Walking Dead. It's like post apocalyptic but not zombies.

912
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: But you know, it's always the people that are the worry.

913
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 3: This is a very interesting thing that he says. I

914
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 3: think they do a really good job here of setting

915
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: up some kind of history. Bill keeps asking where Tests is.

916
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 3: Bill says, you should understand that, Bill kind of talk.

917
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 3: There's this illusion of a history between Bill, Joel, and

918
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 3: Tests that we know that they're going to expand on

919
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: in the series. But here is just these really interesting illusions.

920
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: Is he saying you have all people should understand that

921
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 3: because humans did something terrible to Bill? Or is he

922
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: saying it because Joel's a murderer? Like It's a really

923
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 3: interesting bit of writing.

924
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: At the Armory, Ellie yet again is like, hey, I

925
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: need a gun. I give me a gun. Bill and

926
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: Joel have a side conversation. Bill is like, hey, just quick,

927
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: FYI like, I think that this is crazy what you're doing.

928
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 3: Don't do it.

929
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: And I think you should take this girl back wherever

930
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: the fuck you found her and leave her there.

931
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: Again. Interesting moment because like Bill is this kind of

932
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: prepper survivalist who doesn't give a shit, who doesn't owe

933
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:24,800
Speaker 3: Joel anything, but then suddenly wants to share his insight

934
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 3: into this relationship with Joel and give him this warning.

935
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: It's so interesting.

936
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: Bill later tells Joel that, you know, once upon a

937
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: time he had a partner, someone he had to look after.

938
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: I highly suspect that we're going to learn more about

939
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 1: this in the show. Uh, this is this is all

940
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: we kind of get of this in the game. And

941
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: if if episodes one and two are any guide to

942
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: the kind of philosophy that Mason and Druckman have taken

943
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: with this adaptation, it's that they're going to pull on

944
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: these little threads that are left hanging in the video

945
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: game narrative and they're going to flesh him out. So

946
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: I would not be surprised to see that but he says,

947
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: you know that slowed me down being with another person,

948
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: being attached to another person, it put me in danger.

949
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: So he doesn't really say what happened, but he's essentially

950
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: says that he ditched this person. In what manner that

951
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: ditching took place, we don't know. Again, I will assume

952
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: that we were going to find out Sunday night. Joel

953
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 1: is like, okay, okay, enough lectures, I'll take a shotgun.

954
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: He takes it.

955
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: Bill then shows Joel how to make a nail bomb

956
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: out of a soup can, which is a very wonderful

957
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: pne You need a fantastic and useful recipe for Joel's

958
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: crafting menu. And then Bill tells Joel where they're going.

959
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 1: There's a Federer truck on the other side of town.

960
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: They used to come through here. They come through here

961
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: regularly scavenging, looking for things, and that federal squad was

962
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: overrun by a horde of infected and the truck is

963
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: still there and it probably still works, probably still has

964
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: a working battery because it wasn't that long ago. Joel

965
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: is like, okay, this might work, and the trio head

966
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 1: off through a church out of stained window towards the

967
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: local high school in the feder truck and we'll pick

968
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: it up in chapter three of our Last of Us

969
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: video game, du Dah. And it feels like just the

970
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 1: right place to stop, because again it feels like we're

971
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: heading right into what's going to happen yeah Sunday, And

972
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: it feels yeah.

973
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: I will say this is a very good point that

974
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 3: we're at because you can listen to this without worrying

975
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 3: the episode three will be spoiled for you. That's what

976
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 3: I will say. This is we are going to get

977
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 3: that expansion Jason talked about, and oh boy, I can't

978
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 3: wait to talk to you about that episode up next.

979
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: Nerd Out.

980
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: In today's nerd Out, why you tell us what you

981
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 3: love and why, or as you have so kindly been

982
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: doing recently, sharing a theory with us, Elizabeth pictures us

983
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,840
Speaker 3: a theory about a location from the upcoming Quantumnium movie,

984
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 3: And I'm very glad Elizabeth sent this in because I

985
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: know she has been very excited about this theory and Jason,

986
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you read it because I think this one.

987
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 3: I think this is a very astute suggestion.

988
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think there's something to it. Morning,

989
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: Rosie and Jason. Hello, Okay, So here it is. It

990
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: starts with Quantumnia the media when they are in the

991
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: quantum realm. She's talking about the shots from the trailer.

992
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: It really reminded me of the TVA. You can pull

993
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: both areas up and they aren't identical. But to me,

994
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: it looks like the TVA is underground and the quantum

995
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: realm is above ground. So here it is, the TVA

996
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: and the quantum realm are the same place. Furthermore, there's

997
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: a possibility the TVA was set up in the quantum

998
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,840
Speaker 1: realm to contain Kang, and that's why he needs so

999
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: much help to escape. So from here you can open

1000
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: up the ideas like the is it the Illuminati who

1001
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: helped Doc and Kang? The possibilities are endless. Enjoy, Elizabeth.

1002
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: I like this a lot. Yeah, I think I think

1003
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: that there is something to it. I think that there's

1004
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: something to whatever it is that Loki unleashed. That was

1005
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: unleashed at the end of Loki. It created this branch

1006
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: universe where Kang is free, quote unquote free, and it

1007
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: would not surprise me at all if, for instance, when okay,

1008
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: so when Loki comes back at the end of you know,

1009
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: the very stinger of the final episode of season one,

1010
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 1: and we see the statue of Kan. I bet you

1011
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: that takes place after Aunt Man in Quantumania.

1012
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 3: Ooh, I love that. That makes a lot of sense,

1013
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: And I will say I remember that. I think that

1014
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 3: this visual nod that Elizabeth is seeing is not unintentional,

1015
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,959
Speaker 3: because do you remember when they went to the the

1016
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 3: well at the end of time. I'm like, where he

1017
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 3: who remains lives? Everyone was like, oh, this kind of

1018
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,240
Speaker 3: looks like, you know what we were, the quantum realm,

1019
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: the microverse. It looks like it could be in there,

1020
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: So I think there's a definite connection. I also think

1021
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: it would make sense that if Kang established the TVA

1022
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 3: in you know, the timeline as we know it, that

1023
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 3: one version of Kang. That would mean that any Kang

1024
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: would have the knowledge to establish the TVA, or maybe

1025
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: one of the Kangs who is trying to stop Kang

1026
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 3: the conqueror we're guessing who's in the who's in the

1027
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: quantum realm, could have established a version in the TVA.

1028
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 3: I love your read that that Loki season two takes

1029
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 3: place after and that's what we're seeing because I want

1030
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 3: Kang to get out. I want to see every Kang.

1031
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: I want to know where he is. And we just

1032
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: have to say here that I'm very happy to see

1033
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 3: people finally saying what I've been saying all along, that

1034
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 3: the ten rings are obviously in that man and the

1035
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: Quantumnia trailer that looks like that kind of thing. And also,

1036
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: can I just say, I know no one else is

1037
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: saying this, but I am saying it, and please uh

1038
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: Fastos obviously made the ten rings in Eternals. We saw it.

1039
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 3: It's the same circle, like there is a connection between

1040
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: these different artifacts, and we're going to find out it's

1041
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: only a couple of weeks now. I can't believe it,

1042
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 3: just a few weeks. Thank you, Elizabeth. Yes, yeah, if

1043
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:26,959
Speaker 3: you have theories or passions that you want to share,

1044
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 3: and we know you do, you can always hit us

1045
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 3: up at x ray at crooked dot com instructions in

1046
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 3: the show notes and then we'll read them out and

1047
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: talk about them, especially you know, we love to hear

1048
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: a theory, so yeah, so send them over.

1049
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: All right, that's it for our show today. Stay tuned

1050
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: for a continuing coverage of the Last of Us. The

1051
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: show and the Game, and of course we're going to

1052
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: check in on The Bad Batch and other shows as

1053
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: they pop up. Rosie plugs, plugs, plugs, plug plug, plug, plugs,

1054
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: what do you have to plug?

1055
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 3: You can find me on letterbox and Instagram. Rosie Marx

1056
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 3: m R. I've been writing about Last of Us at IGN.

1057
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 3: I will have some really cool man Quantumania stuff coming out,

1058
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: and obviously you can hear me here because this is

1059
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: really now the home of most of my theories and

1060
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: my outrageous tinfoil off the hat thoughts. So yeah, just

1061
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 3: check us out every Wednesday and Friday wob double vision

1062
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 3: so lucky.

1063
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: Catch the next episode on Wednesday, February first for more

1064
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: of the Last of Us on HBO and remember we're

1065
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 1: bringing you to two two two two episodes a week.

1066
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: That's twice the everything else. Don't miss it Wednesday and

1067
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: Friday in your podcast feed.

1068
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,320
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1069
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 3: they're posted beneath the show notes on the Crooked website

1070
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: for each episode within forty eight hours of release. And

1071
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,400
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1072
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,480
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1073
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Speaker 3: on Twitter and join our discord. Lots of you have

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Speaker 3: been joining. It's great, tons of amazing people in that bands.

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Speaker 3: It's all kinds of media, all kinds of cool spaces

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Speaker 3: in that to hang out, and me and Jason are

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Speaker 3: in that. And if you're loving the Lost of Us,

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Speaker 3: we've been doing some really fun watcher loves.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of the discord. In our discord, we're giving away

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Speaker 1: a really cool Last of Us Activation pack. It is

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Speaker 1: a Last of Us branded car Heart backpack containing a

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Speaker 1: Last of Us car Heart jacket, much les, which is

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Speaker 1: really where it's really cool, a little toolkit so that

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Speaker 1: you can craft your items and weapons, a poster, a

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Speaker 1: QR code that allows you access to unique the Last

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Speaker 1: of Us social media filters, and more stuff in there.

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Speaker 1: It's really cool. Join our discord and head over to

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Speaker 1: the giveaways channel to learn more and to sign up,

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Speaker 1: and we'll be doing a random draw next week in

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Speaker 1: our discord to see who will receive that really cool

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Speaker 1: Last of Us Activation pack. Five star reviews, five star ratings,

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Speaker 1: five five five five. We gotta have them, we need them,

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Speaker 1: we love them. You gotta give them to us. Here's

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Speaker 1: the one Deliver you Gotta do it. Here's the one

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Speaker 1: from Greenman. Always upbeaten fun, thank You, thank you. This

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Speaker 1: podcast is always upbeaten fund. The point of view is

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Speaker 1: always why you should like a movie, TV show, comic,

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Speaker 1: et cetera, and never tear it down. The hosts and

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Speaker 1: guests heaven encyclopedic knowledge of geekdom, and it is fantastic

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Speaker 1: to listen to.

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Speaker 2: Thank You, green Man, Thank You.

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Speaker 3: That's definitely a x ray.

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Speaker 1: Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show is produced

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Speaker 1: by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The show is executive

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Speaker 1: produced by myself and Sandy Gerhard are editing and sound

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Speaker 1: designers by Vascilli's Photopoulos. Dilon Villanueva and Matt De Group

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Speaker 1: provide video production support. Alex Reller for Handle Social Media.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Brian Vasquez for our theme music. See you

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Speaker 1: next time.