Speaker 1: You're listening to Comedy Central.
Speaker 2: December eighteen, two thousand eight, from Comedy Central's World News
Speaker 2: headquarters in New York.
Speaker 3: This is The Daily Show with Trevor Noah.
Speaker 1: Well, come turn the Daily Show. Everybody.
Speaker 4: Thank you for shooting in, Thank you for coming out.
Speaker 1: I'm Trevor Noah.
Speaker 5: My guest tonight is a rap icon who put out
Speaker 5: one of my.
Speaker 1: Favorite albums this year.
Speaker 6: Push your tears here, everybody on the show.
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie after he's beef with Drake.
Speaker 5: I'm a little nervous to interview him because we've all
Speaker 5: seen what he can do the light Skin Brothers. But first,
Speaker 5: let's catch up on today's headlines. There's a ton of
Speaker 5: stuff in the news.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 5: CBS announced there was firing Les Moonvez without paying him
Speaker 5: his one hundred and twenty million dollars In severance. Japan
Speaker 5: has said it's getting back into the military game, building
Speaker 5: its first aircraft carrier since World War Two. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: basically Japan is like Louis c k. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 5: we did something bad, but I think enough time as pause.
Speaker 1: Got to get back in the game now.
Speaker 5: And if you love weapons and the news of the
Speaker 5: Trump administration banning bump stocks has you sad well.
Speaker 1: New York States is about to turn that frown upside down.
Speaker 7: A federal judge rules New York's statewide ban on nunchucks
Speaker 7: is unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. The ban on the
Speaker 7: martial arts weapon was adopted in nineteen seventy four. There
Speaker 7: were fears of the popularity of kung fu films would
Speaker 7: lead to criminals, especially young gang members, using nunchucks.
Speaker 6: Yes, do you get people, Nunchucks are back, baby back
Speaker 6: what I feel like I'm fourteen years old again from
Speaker 6: God and buy some nunchucks and then go home and
Speaker 6: masturbate furiously. And all of this is happening thanks to
Speaker 6: the lawsuit of one very committed New Yorker Cowabanga dudes.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I will say.
Speaker 5: I will say, New York clearly has its parodies off,
Speaker 5: like it's seeking forever to legalize weed, but nunchucks are
Speaker 5: now fair game. Like of all the cities in America,
Speaker 5: New York is the worst place to legalize nunchucks.
Speaker 1: Everyone is already highly strung, and now you're throwing in
Speaker 1: ninja tools like Someway.
Speaker 5: Fights out about to get real, like the only good
Speaker 5: thing about New York is that it's maybe two crowded
Speaker 5: to actually pull your arm out, So people are gonna
Speaker 5: be in the train like, man, if I had.
Speaker 6: Two if I had two feet, oh man, you like you?
Speaker 1: Oh you? Oh? And you go off, lady, I would
Speaker 1: be all you. I swear to God.
Speaker 5: Once this train clears out after Canal Street, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: kick all y'all.
Speaker 1: For now. I'm just gonna make the Bruce Lee sounds.
Speaker 5: I want to say, though, Like the one benefit of
Speaker 5: nunchucks is that it's the only weapon that hurts the
Speaker 5: user more than the victim.
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, It's just be like someone mugging,
Speaker 1: you like.
Speaker 5: Give me all your mug, give me a give me
Speaker 5: a ah. Yeah, if I'm in a nunchuck mugging, there's
Speaker 5: a fifty percent chance that I'm going away with his watch.
Speaker 5: I like that.
Speaker 1: Moving on to some other news.
Speaker 5: By now we all know about the gender wage gap
Speaker 5: between men and women.
Speaker 1: It's really the worst gap after the baby gap. Nothing
Speaker 1: in my size.
Speaker 5: And today today the World Economic Forum released a study
Speaker 5: saying that the gender wage gap is going away.
Speaker 1: In two hundred and two years.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I should have led with that part yeah, which,
Speaker 5: let's be honest, is bad news for everyone who's alive
Speaker 5: today because it means at this rate, we won't live
Speaker 5: to see the gap close, right, Well except for Jennifer Lopez,
Speaker 5: who's the only person aging slowly enough. Yeah, because in
Speaker 5: two hundred years she'll be like, what fifty seven?
Speaker 1: I think? No, wait, fifty eight, sorry, fifty eight.
Speaker 5: Moving on to some technology news, it turns out people
Speaker 5: hates it.
Speaker 8: People are slashing tires, throwing rocks, pointing guns at self
Speaker 8: driving cars. People in Arizona have recorded twenty one incidents
Speaker 8: of this in the past two years on the Arizona
Speaker 8: Republic reports. In other cases, people stood in front of
Speaker 8: the vehicles to prevent them from driving, yelled at them,
Speaker 8: chase them, and force them off the road. The article says,
Speaker 8: people appear to be frustrated by their presence.
Speaker 5: People are chasing and yelling at cars. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 5: this has less to do with self driving cars and
Speaker 5: more to do with Arizona's meth problem, because someone shouting
Speaker 5: at a car just sounds like a crazy guy who
Speaker 5: sees transformers way too many times. He's like, hey, you bumblebe,
Speaker 5: you bumble bee, I know you're bumble Bae, bubblebe I
Speaker 5: know you're there.
Speaker 1: I kind of understand it, though.
Speaker 5: It's got to mess with you when you have road rage,
Speaker 5: but then there's no one to direct it.
Speaker 1: That just driving your car. You know you cut me off,
Speaker 1: You invisible asshole. You not even hear piece of shit?
Speaker 1: You know what, man, I just throw a rock at you.
Speaker 9: Ah.
Speaker 5: And finally in headlines, the world's worst charity has closed
Speaker 5: its doors.
Speaker 10: President Trump will be closing down his charity, the Donald J.
Speaker 10: Trump Foundation. It was sued by a New York's attorney
Speaker 10: general overclaims that Donald Trump's children abused its tax exempt
Speaker 10: status and violated campaign finance laws.
Speaker 11: We have a tweet here from the New York State
Speaker 11: Age Attorney General's office. The foundation functioned as little more
Speaker 11: than a checkbook to serve mister Trump's interests. Our lawsuit
Speaker 11: remains ongoing.
Speaker 5: That's right, Donald Trump's charity, which frequently spent money on
Speaker 5: Donald Trump, has been forced to shut down.
Speaker 1: Which makes sense.
Speaker 5: I mean, if the beneficiary of the charity has become president,
Speaker 5: I think the charity.
Speaker 1: Has done his job. It's time to shut it down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the same way all the people who used
Speaker 5: to send me a dollar when I was back in Africa,
Speaker 5: stopped paying me when I became host of the Daily Show.
Speaker 1: It's done. Yeah, it worked out.
Speaker 5: And if you're saying, hey, Trevor, weren't you already successful
Speaker 5: before you.
Speaker 1: Got this job, what the heck are you? Robert Mala
Speaker 1: shut up now, I'm gonna be honest with you, guys.
Speaker 1: I'm even shocked that Trump had a charity.
Speaker 5: I always thought the only Trump charity was the woman
Speaker 5: who agreed to have sex with him.
Speaker 12: But but, but this is.
Speaker 5: Real, This is real, And it turns out the Trump
Speaker 5: Foundation did a lot of shady shit that caught the
Speaker 5: eye of investigators, like when Trump used twelve thousand dollars
Speaker 5: from his charity to buy himself a helmet signed by
Speaker 5: Tim Tebow, which is something even Tim Tebow wouldn't once.
Speaker 1: And he even.
Speaker 5: Spends ten thousand charity dollars to buy a portrait of
Speaker 5: himself to hang up in his own golf club.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, at this point, the least the man can
Speaker 5: do is donate that painting to a child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, free nightmares for the rest of your life. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Tell our main story.
Speaker 5: Twenty eighteen is almost over, but it feels like the
Speaker 5: whole country is still nursing a hangover from the twenty
Speaker 5: sixteen presidential election.
Speaker 1: Trump is still obsessed with Hillary.
Speaker 5: Malla is still investigating Trump, and Democrats are about to
Speaker 5: launch a slew of new investigations into his campaign. It
Speaker 5: feels like a billion years from now, just before the
Speaker 5: sun dies out, the last thing you will hear before
Speaker 5: the universe goes silent is no collusion, and then there'll
Speaker 5: be one more Avengers movie and then it's over. But now,
Speaker 5: over two years later, we're still learning about how deep
Speaker 5: the Russian rabbit hole goes. Russia's interference in the election
Speaker 5: is a serious thing, especially because they targeted one group
Speaker 5: in particular.
Speaker 13: This is really important what I'm about to tell you
Speaker 13: right now, because there's new information. Two new reports commissioned
Speaker 13: by the Senate Intelligence Committee looked at data provided by Facebook,
Speaker 13: by Twitter, and Google, and they found that they were
Speaker 13: trying to suppress African American votes.
Speaker 14: The Russian set up thirty Facebook pages targeting African Americans, specifically,
Speaker 14: ten YouTube channels five hundred and seventy one videos related
Speaker 14: to police violence against African Americans. Some of these posts
Speaker 14: distorted the record of Hillary Clinton and former President Barack Obama.
Speaker 13: Facebook ads were targeted at users who had shown interest
Speaker 13: in particular topics, including black history, the Black Panther Party,
Speaker 13: and Malcolm X. The Russian accounts used voter suppression tactics,
Speaker 13: encouraging black voters to stay home or vote for Jill Stein.
Speaker 5: Oh man, that is so insulting for Jill Stein. Even
Speaker 5: in Russia. They're like, stay home or vote for Jill Stein?
Speaker 5: Is sam same thing, same thing. It's almost like the
Speaker 5: phrase vote for Jill Stein. Is this just the new
Speaker 5: way of saying waste of time? You know, Like one
Speaker 5: kid is gonna be like, but dad, I want to
Speaker 5: be a DJ.
Speaker 1: But like, no son of mine is gonna vote for
Speaker 1: Jill Stein. His life away. Okay, but that's right.
Speaker 5: It turns out the Russians spent a lot of efforts
Speaker 5: specifically trying to convince Black Americans not to vote, Like
Speaker 5: look at this meme that they put out. This is
Speaker 5: a real meme that they found came from the Russians
Speaker 5: and says, before you vote, listen to MJ. All I
Speaker 5: want to say is that they don't really care about us.
Speaker 5: And I feel bad for Michael the man died ten
Speaker 5: years ago, and now Vladimir Putin is using him as
Speaker 5: a propaganda tool. Like if you told Michael Jackson that
Speaker 5: someday Russians would turn him into a meme to manipulate
Speaker 5: black people, you know what he.
Speaker 1: Would have said. He would have been like, what's a meme?
Speaker 5: Oh, kids like them, show me how to make one
Speaker 5: too soon. And what's crazy is that sometimes the Russians
Speaker 5: went way beyond just putting out memes. They actually convinced
Speaker 5: people to do stuff in the real world.
Speaker 12: One such operation convinced and paid martial arts instructor Ama
Speaker 12: Wale Ada Wale to run self defense classes for African
Speaker 12: Americans to quote, protect your rights, let them know black
Speaker 12: power matters.
Speaker 1: They convinced you very easily, very very easily.
Speaker 5: Some of the things were, you know, sketchy, but at
Speaker 5: the end of the day, it's still fitness.
Speaker 1: What I love about this.
Speaker 5: Guy is that for him and most fitness instructors, fitness
Speaker 5: just comes first.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like the Russians, He's like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I mean there was fitness.
Speaker 5: You know, you could say anything, so a fitness instructor,
Speaker 5: you could be like, do you see what's happening in
Speaker 5: North Korea. They'd be like, man, those labor camps are disgusting,
Speaker 5: but you gotta admit they're getting their steps in.
Speaker 1: They're getting their steps in.
Speaker 5: For more on Russians reaching out to Black Americans, we
Speaker 5: turned now to a real black American, A very dull
Speaker 5: say slowan everybody.
Speaker 4: K pcan don't say slow in the house, everybody.
Speaker 1: So don't say. I have to ask you, what do
Speaker 1: you make of this news, Trevor.
Speaker 15: I feel disgusted, I feel manipulated, and I feel special.
Speaker 15: Russia could have gone after anyone latinos Asians, millennials, but
Speaker 15: they said, we're going after the ones who count black people.
Speaker 16: Can you believe that? I mean, some white people actually
Speaker 16: do think black lives matter.
Speaker 1: Well, we hear what, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 5: But they were only paying attention so that they could
Speaker 5: manipulate the black vote.
Speaker 16: Yeah, but at least they're paying attention to us.
Speaker 15: The only time our president notices us is when he's
Speaker 15: fighting with Lebron James on Twitter. I mean, Trump probably
Speaker 15: thinks that Martin Luther King's last name is Boulevard. But
Speaker 15: while Trump's ignoring black people, Putin's been looking at us
Speaker 15: from across the bar this whole time.
Speaker 16: I see you've lad.
Speaker 15: On horseback with them tying nipples. How'd you get that
Speaker 15: horse in this club?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I get it.
Speaker 5: But doesn't it bother you that Russia only did this
Speaker 5: to suppress the black.
Speaker 15: Votes, Trevor, you know who else suppresses America's black vote?
Speaker 16: America?
Speaker 1: Have you been to Georgia?
Speaker 15: They made it impossible for some black people to vote.
Speaker 15: At least Putin gave us a choice. Plus, he's got
Speaker 15: that cute accent. He'd be like, beautiful brown warmer.
Speaker 17: I throw him.
Speaker 16: It's not the killie. Maybe I like danger.
Speaker 5: So what you're saying is, even though Russia interfered in
Speaker 5: the election and maybe helped Trump get elected, you're fine
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 15: Oh No, I'm not saying I'm fine with it. I'm
Speaker 15: just saying I appreciate the effort. In order to do this,
Speaker 15: they sat down and got to know Black Americans. Our likes,
Speaker 15: our dislikes are culture. Do you know how hard it
Speaker 15: must be for a Russian understanding migos?
Speaker 16: You have to learn English and then forget it. I mean,
Speaker 16: that's the kind of.
Speaker 15: Work I want my government to put in, don't say.
Speaker 1: Sloan to everybody, don't work that well, come back to
Speaker 1: a damn show.
Speaker 5: You know, going home for the holidays is often a
Speaker 5: recipe for disaster. But what if I told you your
Speaker 5: next awkward family gathering could actually make the world a
Speaker 5: better place.
Speaker 1: Well, Daisi Leidek has more.
Speaker 18: Our country is experiencing the most divisive time in recent history,
Speaker 18: but the holidays are upon us. I want to find
Speaker 18: out what families are doing is stay connected this season?
Speaker 1: We just ignore family around the holidays.
Speaker 10: We stay a ray farm.
Speaker 8: Relatives that are racist.
Speaker 18: Take annidepressants, get medicaids, medicated. You got lots of racist relatives, yes, Unfortunately,
Speaker 18: what do you do when your racist cousin says something rat.
Speaker 16: House, not allowed in my house. Not allowed in my house,
Speaker 16: oh way house rules.
Speaker 1: My grandfather was racist.
Speaker 5: When we would watch football and people of particular color
Speaker 5: would be running down the field, he would share for
Speaker 5: them using the not nice times.
Speaker 18: Joe, he's dead now, Yes, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 16: That's probably for the best.
Speaker 18: I was starting to see a pattern, particularly among white families.
Speaker 18: But crazy shit like this doesn't have to be a
Speaker 18: holiday tradition. Luckily, there's a solution, and that's where I
Speaker 18: come in by letting this guy come in. Meet doctor
Speaker 18: David Camp as a racial dialogue expert. He travels the
Speaker 18: country running a workshop called the White Ally Toolkit, where
Speaker 18: woke white liberals learn to effectively communicate with then not
Speaker 18: so woke. David's basically the white people whisper.
Speaker 19: So, how many of you folks have racist friends relatives
Speaker 19: that you think you might see over the holidays? Everybody? So,
Speaker 19: the method that you wanna think about is race, and
Speaker 19: race stands for reflect ask connect expands. Let's suppose that
Speaker 19: person is your cousin Biff.
Speaker 18: How does he know my cousin Beth?
Speaker 19: And Biff wants to talk about how affirmative actions keeping
Speaker 19: him out of a job and making black folks lazy?
Speaker 19: What do you do? Not my house? What does that mean?
Speaker 18: Means it's not lied in your house, my house, my rules,
Speaker 18: not my house.
Speaker 19: Well, or you can try to influence people and stay
Speaker 19: connected to them.
Speaker 1: You ask him what happened in his life to cause
Speaker 1: him to believe that is that? Is?
Speaker 7: That?
Speaker 1: Is that? No, it's not.
Speaker 19: Actually that's correct. That's exactly what you should do. Alright,
Speaker 19: Let's turn to the next part of the scenario. So
Speaker 19: what's important to do is to find something you can
Speaker 19: agree with and what Biff said and connect with him.
Speaker 18: Now, I can't connect with Bef.
Speaker 16: I can't.
Speaker 19: He's as an official black person. I'm telling you you
Speaker 19: can connect with them.
Speaker 14: You're you have it.
Speaker 8: I gotta be real honest with you.
Speaker 18: I may be white on the outside, but on the.
Speaker 8: Inside, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 18: I did see a black panther nine times though, that
Speaker 18: very much identified with it.
Speaker 19: That's great, But you are a white person, yeah, and
Speaker 19: you have a similarity to Biff that I do not.
Speaker 18: Okay, you know, I hear you. I get it now,
Speaker 18: I get it now, Okay. To see if this was effective,
Speaker 18: I needed to try it out in the real world.
Speaker 18: I've decided to put David's methods to the test, and
Speaker 18: there's no better place to find conflicting family views than
Speaker 18: New Jersey. The co Francisco family had a history of
Speaker 18: dinners gone bad, so they were more than willing to
Speaker 18: let any random stranger with cameras come into their home
Speaker 18: if it meant their holidays could be more pleasant.
Speaker 16: What's on your sweater?
Speaker 18: Just you know, your standard traditional christmaswater It's black yeah,
Speaker 18: it's just a Stanta sweater pop up.
Speaker 19: Would you wear a sweater lake diseas?
Speaker 12: Maybe not.
Speaker 18: If I would have known you were in your black's ancestor,
Speaker 18: I would woar my black Jesus sweater.
Speaker 12: Jesus is.
Speaker 16: Jesus isn't black or white. He's actually he's Middle Eastern.
Speaker 1: Jewish Jewish religion.
Speaker 16: Jewish is a religion. The nationality part was Jewish.
Speaker 18: Well, if Jesus wasn't going to bring this family together
Speaker 18: at Christmas time, there was only one thing that could.
Speaker 1: So who likes football? I don't watch football anymore? He
Speaker 1: hasn't watch football all year?
Speaker 16: How you watch football all year?
Speaker 1: Because I don't like what's going on? The kneeling. The kneeling, Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 18: You don't like it at all?
Speaker 19: I disagree.
Speaker 18: It was time to work my magic. Okay, so you
Speaker 18: say that you disagree, Yes, okay, this is the point
Speaker 18: of the conversation where you need to connect.
Speaker 3: You're really gonna let some kneeling before the football game
Speaker 3: stop you from watching the entire game, the entire thing
Speaker 3: that doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1: Just don't watch the kneeling hand show the race.
Speaker 19: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm trying to.
Speaker 18: Teach you how to how to civilize conversation. I think
Speaker 18: it's going great. I really feel that this family is
Speaker 18: responsive to the techniques that I've shown them. I think
Speaker 18: David would feel very proud of the way when I'm
Speaker 18: handling this.
Speaker 1: I looked a TV on and I watched this kid
Speaker 1: kneel down. I shut it off. I don't want to
Speaker 1: watch him.
Speaker 16: Just like let him feel. Who cares. They're like making
Speaker 16: a statement. It's a peaceful protest.
Speaker 18: Okay, very good, very good, very good. You actually just
Speaker 18: did all four steps in one statement. You were reflecting
Speaker 18: on what was happening here, you asked for help, you
Speaker 18: were connecting with me, and you were expanding on an idea.
Speaker 12: All four.
Speaker 1: What's so happy about it? It's a scary type of
Speaker 1: men right now?
Speaker 16: Men?
Speaker 1: Just men.
Speaker 18: Well, there's always next year. Something tells me.
Speaker 1: I'll be back.
Speaker 4: Guys you like everyone go the right back. Welcome back
Speaker 4: to the Getty Show.
Speaker 5: My guest tonight is a legendary rap up whose latest
Speaker 5: album Daytona just received a Grammy nomination for Best Rap Album.
Speaker 9: Please welcome, push a Tea. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Thanks, I'm so glad to finally have you here, and
Speaker 5: most importantly, congratulations on your Grammy nomination.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 12: That is wow.
Speaker 1: I felt a little bit about that. Yeah, they're super
Speaker 1: good about that.
Speaker 5: I know people say things, but you said about a
Speaker 5: year ago and the album came out, You're like, yo,
Speaker 5: I'm getting nominated for the Grammy, and now it happened.
Speaker 1: Did you will get into existence?
Speaker 17: I knew it, like I honestly knew it.
Speaker 5: What What was it about this album that made you
Speaker 5: feel like, Yo, this is a Grammy nod man?
Speaker 17: We had the luxury of time, which is why the
Speaker 17: album is entitled Daytona. That's my favorite watch the Rolex Daytona, right,
Speaker 17: and me and Kanye had the luxury of time. We
Speaker 17: really crafted it. We really just put our all into it,
Speaker 17: but we took our time.
Speaker 5: A lot of people have referred to you as your
Speaker 5: favorite rappers, favorite rapper.
Speaker 17: I am, I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a lyricist.
Speaker 5: You create a in a in a really organic way,
Speaker 5: and it feels like like hip hop is.
Speaker 1: Meant to feel, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: What's also interesting is you created an album that is
Speaker 5: shorter than most of the music we used to know,
Speaker 5: like these days people are making albums are like twenty
Speaker 5: tracks long and it's like an hour and a half
Speaker 5: and it doesn't it And you came in and you're like, no,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make it punchy, I'm gonna make it short,
Speaker 5: and I'm gonna make it fire. Was that a specific
Speaker 5: decision that you made to buck the trend or was
Speaker 5: were you just creating what you created?
Speaker 17: Definitely to buck the trend. You know a lot of
Speaker 17: people make long albums, and you know, sometimes they have
Speaker 17: a lot to say, so they make long albums or
Speaker 17: they make long albums so the streaming numbers, you know,
Speaker 17: go higher and makes theirselves bigger, and.
Speaker 1: The music may be a little cheap.
Speaker 17: So, you know, just so people knew that we weren't
Speaker 17: playing those type of games, we made a shorter album,
Speaker 17: seven songs, straight to the point of all killer, no filler.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: The the album has been met with I mean just
Speaker 5: resounding reviews from everyone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone from you know hip hop. Genuinely it has
Speaker 1: like I've got to rip out for the year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people are a lot of people
Speaker 5: are saying that, and your fans love you. I mean
Speaker 5: this this was the next level. Last week, you lost
Speaker 5: your Cardier bracelet in the crowd, right, and then one
Speaker 5: of your fans returned the bracelet to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, a great man.
Speaker 5: Is that a reflection of how good your music is
Speaker 5: or how lame your fans are?
Speaker 1: Which one is it?
Speaker 17: I think he was just an honest guy.
Speaker 1: I thought I was so. But that's love.
Speaker 5: That's love though, right, you don't expect that to happen,
Speaker 5: Like when was it?
Speaker 1: Like Anglo something? He went in, He went in with
Speaker 1: the chain and then like you came, you against, but
Speaker 1: you never come and then the chain was guarded and
Speaker 1: that was it. The chain never came back. It was
Speaker 1: done right, but you got you got it back.
Speaker 5: Like there's a special connection that you share with your fans.
Speaker 5: Do you think that as an artist you've managed to
Speaker 5: maintain that sense of being underground whilst being commercially successful.
Speaker 1: Definitely?
Speaker 17: You know I say that, You know, I go out
Speaker 17: and I perform in front of two thousand people, right,
Speaker 17: and to me, those are like the coolest two thousand
Speaker 17: people in the world. Like they're like they tell me
Speaker 17: what to where, they tell me what to buy, they
Speaker 17: tell me what's fresh. I learned everything from those guys,
Speaker 17: now I can go, you know, during festival season and
Speaker 17: we're doing forty fifty thousand people. But it's something about
Speaker 17: those two thousand, right that are just like really honed
Speaker 17: in and really, I don't I don't call them fans,
Speaker 17: I call them family.
Speaker 5: That's a It sounds like you're a fan of your
Speaker 5: fans for sure, Like they teach me everything.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a different way to see it.
Speaker 5: The album was powerful, not just because of the lyrics
Speaker 5: but also because of the music. But from the very
Speaker 5: beginning it was met with controversy because the album cover
Speaker 5: was something that polarized so many people. On the album cover,
Speaker 5: you had the picture of the bathroom where Whitney Houston
Speaker 5: was found.
Speaker 1: And I mean I remember when this came out.
Speaker 17: People were, no, No, that's not the bathroom where she
Speaker 17: was found.
Speaker 1: That was just her home bathroom.
Speaker 5: Right, okay, And so this was Whitney Houston's bathroom, and
Speaker 5: a lot of people were like, why why that imagery?
Speaker 17: I felt like, you know, this image spoke to exactly
Speaker 17: what's going on on the album. It's organized chaos, it's
Speaker 17: it's luxury, it's drugs, it's.
Speaker 1: It's just chaos. Do you feel like, do you feel
Speaker 1: like you you revel in that? Is that like a world?
Speaker 5: Because you know what, you know, what I find interesting
Speaker 5: about you is you never strike me as somebody who
Speaker 5: doesn't seem out of control, and yet what you rap
Speaker 5: about is everything that's happening in the world that's beyond
Speaker 5: your control.
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that? Is that conscious? Is that who
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 17: I mean, I make luxury street rap, and you know.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating luxury street rap.
Speaker 17: We're gonna talk about everything. We're gonna talk about the good,
Speaker 17: the bad, the ugly, the benzes in jail too, talk
Speaker 17: about everything.
Speaker 5: You You actually wrote a song when Meek Mill was
Speaker 5: in prison, and that's what would Meek do?
Speaker 17: Yeah, man, because I wish he was on that record.
Speaker 1: What are you feeling like like that? Honestly?
Speaker 5: Like you see somebody like Meek Mill go to prison,
Speaker 5: and you know a lot of the time people say
Speaker 5: about hip hop or sports or whatever, especially as a
Speaker 5: black man in America, people go, I made it out right,
Speaker 5: this is this is a life I get to live
Speaker 5: so that I don't get trapped in the life that
Speaker 5: was destined for me in many ways.
Speaker 1: When you saw Meek in that situation.
Speaker 5: Was there a part of it that touched you where
Speaker 5: you were like, that's like close to home.
Speaker 17: Totally because me is one of my favorite rappers and
Speaker 17: he's like a rapper that I've watched. I watched him
Speaker 17: on DVDs. I watched him just come up as a kid.
Speaker 17: He was actually popping a wheelie in one of my
Speaker 17: first videos.
Speaker 1: Like when I first started.
Speaker 17: It's just like a kid on a bike in the
Speaker 17: neighborhood and were like, yeah, do that, willie and he.
Speaker 1: Did it right.
Speaker 17: So to watch him, watch his rise, see how great
Speaker 17: he is as an MC, and then him going through
Speaker 17: you know, legal troubles for popping a willie actually right,
Speaker 17: it was terrible. And then you know, now you see
Speaker 17: him now and you know he's came out with his
Speaker 17: new albums Hot.
Speaker 1: And it's through the roof. Everybody loves it.
Speaker 17: But it's like, man, he had to go through all
Speaker 17: of that just to get back to this point.
Speaker 5: It's amazing how it feels like the world that you've
Speaker 5: been in us Pusher t you have been at the
Speaker 5: epicenter of hip hop music and entertainment news over the
Speaker 5: past year. Yes, you know, we cannot speak about Pusher
Speaker 5: tea without talking about the Drake beef. You know, like,
Speaker 5: as soon as you sat down, the first thought I
Speaker 5: have in my head is do I have a son
Speaker 5: that you want to tell me about?
Speaker 1: Pusher? No?
Speaker 5: Man, I just I just wondered one thing, and that
Speaker 5: was like, do do you ever feel like like, do
Speaker 5: you feel like rap battles are something that are still
Speaker 5: Are they still relevant in today's rap culture or do
Speaker 5: you think that like people have lost like a sense
Speaker 5: of what they were or what they're supposed to because
Speaker 5: some people go, rap battles were around when you know,
Speaker 5: when rap was like about shooting people, and now rap
Speaker 5: has changed in its image and rap is not just
Speaker 5: now it's like the battles are more about the flow
Speaker 5: and the lyrics. And people go, oh, but pusha you
Speaker 5: went into family that's over the edge. But people go,
Speaker 5: but there's no edge in a rap battle.
Speaker 17: There is no edge in rap battles. Everybody has to
Speaker 17: stop that narrative. It's terrible, right, They're like ruining the game.
Speaker 17: You know, you know, in a rap battle it's is
Speaker 17: doggy dog, right, and you just go for it and
Speaker 17: it's about it's not so much always about lyricism. It's
Speaker 17: about just being scathing and and and getting a rise,
Speaker 17: getting a rise out of your opponent, right or making them.
Speaker 1: Hush you you.
Speaker 5: You did feel like it went to the next level though,
Speaker 5: when you were at a concert in Canada.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like one of.
Speaker 5: Drake's people or fans jumped onto the stage. That was
Speaker 5: but it was at that point do you think to yourself,
Speaker 5: all right, maybe rap beefs are not for me? No
Speaker 5: over me right, No, It's very much like when when
Speaker 5: you look at this when you look at this album though,
Speaker 5: when you look at it, like like a rap battle,
Speaker 5: what part of a rap battle informs how you make
Speaker 5: the music like, cause it's different disciplines, right, But at
Speaker 5: the same time, like even that clip we watched, it
Speaker 5: feels like you're battling. It's like a flow that you're
Speaker 5: going through. There's no there's no beat that comes in yet,
Speaker 5: there's no nothing is broken. It's just you rhyming, just
Speaker 5: like going through those bars one one, one rhyme after another.
Speaker 5: It feels like is that what luxury street rap is?
Speaker 17: I mean, that's that is just the criteria for my
Speaker 17: style of rhyme, right, It's it's always gonna feel combative.
Speaker 17: It's always gonna feel You're always gonna feel that angst.
Speaker 17: You're always gonna get that message.
Speaker 1: Not everybody's like that.
Speaker 5: Why do you think people connected with the album? Why
Speaker 5: do you think it's nominated for Grammy?
Speaker 1: Because this is the purest rap album that people.
Speaker 17: Have had in a long long time. And just to
Speaker 17: be honest, I mean this is quintessential samples from Kanye
Speaker 17: West and lyric driven hip hop from pusha Tea, the
Speaker 17: best rapper, best producer. That's the album of the year period.
Speaker 5: Before I Let you Go, Before I Let you Go,
Speaker 5: one of the headlines you made this year is you said,
Speaker 5: the make America great again hats is this generation's Ku
Speaker 5: Klux Klan hood.
Speaker 1: But your friend to pomful statement.
Speaker 5: But as you said, your friend and collaborator, Kanye West,
Speaker 5: your business partner.
Speaker 1: He wears that hat with He doesn't anymore. He doesn't anymore.
Speaker 5: No, let me ask you honestly as a friend, because
Speaker 5: he stopped though he stopped.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I want to talk to you about this
Speaker 1: as a person. Okay. It's like because we were talking
Speaker 1: about this on the show. Now you see.
Speaker 5: Families where people argue about this. You see friends. We
Speaker 5: don't live in the world where everyone agrees on the
Speaker 5: same thing. I don't think you can cut off friends
Speaker 5: for not agreeing with you as somebody who.
Speaker 1: Has your beliefs.
Speaker 5: How do you even begin those conversations with somebody who
Speaker 5: you know connects with you on so many other things?
Speaker 17: Can you imagine having those conversations while he's trying to
Speaker 17: make my album?
Speaker 1: Like he's like, we basically.
Speaker 17: Has you know, my life and his palm, and I
Speaker 17: have to tell him that I hate something, right, so
Speaker 17: we're like, you know it was, you know, we always
Speaker 17: have real conversations always, And I think that's why me
Speaker 17: and him connect so well. And I think that's why
Speaker 17: Daytona came out so well, because it's a give and take.
Speaker 17: If I don't like something, I say it and he
Speaker 17: tries to correct it and so on and so forth.
Speaker 5: And when you when you look at Kanye West, now
Speaker 5: you know one of the things we kind of escape
Speaker 5: is the fact that he is a genius who is
Speaker 5: tormented by.
Speaker 1: His mental health issues.
Speaker 5: And now now we've goten to the point where we
Speaker 5: were like, oh, maybe it's not as much of a
Speaker 5: joke as people liked it to be, and he's come
Speaker 5: out and said, hey, I want to talk about this.
Speaker 5: I want to I want to get something done with this.
Speaker 5: In the hip hop community, it feels like mental health
Speaker 5: is not something anybody can speak about.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's going to change? I hope so.
Speaker 17: I mean I've been pretty ignorant to mental health as well,
Speaker 17: just being honest, just growing up in my household. You know, man,
Speaker 17: I think my parents, my grandparents, my great grandparents, they
Speaker 17: went through it all right, So you know when you uh,
Speaker 17: you know, uh, saying that somebody is crazy was just
Speaker 17: a word, you know, used loosely, right, And mental health
Speaker 17: is something that nobody, you know, in coming up, when
Speaker 17: we were coming up, nobody just looked towards that. And
Speaker 17: now and learning about it, yeah you can. It's it's
Speaker 17: a real, real thing.
Speaker 5: Well, I just want to say, man, thank you for
Speaker 5: being on the show. Thank you for making one of
Speaker 5: my favorite albums of the Congratulations from the Grammy Nome,
Speaker 5: Thank you, Thanks so good.
Speaker 16: To have you.
Speaker 1: Ony Day Turn Up is available now.
Speaker 2: Explore more shows from the Daily Show podcast universe by searching.
Speaker 1: The Daily Show wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 2: Watch The Daily Show week nights at eleven ten Central
Speaker 2: on Comedy Central and stream full episodes anytime on Fairmount Plus.
Speaker 1: This has been a Comedy Central podcast