Speaker 1: Drive Time with Travis Wingfield begins.
Speaker 2: Now, let me check your pulse if you're not for though,
Speaker 2: What is up?
Speaker 1: Dolphins?
Speaker 3: And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast, part of the
Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins podcast network covering your team, your Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: How's it going to everybody?
Speaker 3: I am your host, Travis Wingfield And on today's show,
Speaker 3: the great Seth Levitt from the Fish Tank Podcast joins
Speaker 3: me to talk about December football, the Walter Payton Man
Speaker 3: of the Year and Dan Marino in the Fish Tank.
Speaker 3: You don't want to miss that. Plus we'll hear the
Speaker 3: latest from coach McDaniel on his Friday press conference. We'll
Speaker 3: do some locker room audio from Rob Jones and Elijah Campbell.
Speaker 3: All of that and more from the Baptist Health Studios
Speaker 3: inside the Baptist Health Training Complex.
Speaker 4: This is.
Speaker 3: The Draft Time Podcast, Maybe Daffy, let's welcome in my
Speaker 3: guest today from the FishTank Podcast. You know who he is,
Speaker 3: Seth Levitt and joining us now on the Draft Time
Speaker 3: Podcast is the brethren of the Draft Time Podcast. Seth
Speaker 3: Lemt from the Fish Tank. You guys know who is Seth.
Speaker 3: Welcome back in, my friend.
Speaker 5: It's great to be back here. Riding shotgun next to
Speaker 5: Travis Wingfield and Juice isn't here, so you know, nobody's
Speaker 5: here to keep me in line. It's good luck to
Speaker 5: you there. But yeah, man excited to be back.
Speaker 1: In and we're sitting down this time.
Speaker 3: We are face to face, opposed to the radio show,
Speaker 3: which we're side to side, So it's kind of a
Speaker 3: different dynamic for us here. But you know, I said
Speaker 3: that you're the Brethren podcast here. But Seth Claus has arrived.
Speaker 3: You brought everyone to hear gifts today. Everyone got their
Speaker 3: fish tank, Jersey's I got my fish tank, hoodie.
Speaker 1: How's the holidays. He's been treating you so far well, it.
Speaker 6: Seems to be treating everybody else really well.
Speaker 5: Now, I love this time of the year and what
Speaker 5: you were alluding to, OJ and I just wanted to
Speaker 5: kind of say thank you to all the folks that
Speaker 5: people don't hear about, that help you, that help us,
Speaker 5: that do all the really cool stuff that everyone's tweeting
Speaker 5: about and posting on social media. That there's a whole
Speaker 5: team here of incredibly talented people. And yeah, it was
Speaker 5: just our way of saying thank you to them. But
Speaker 5: holidays have been great. But they could be a lot
Speaker 5: better if we can win a few more games here.
Speaker 3: It's a great segue there to the next segment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like this whole process doesn't happen without JT helping us
Speaker 3: get audio figured out here. So to your point, lots
Speaker 3: of people behind the scenes that make all of our
Speaker 3: content go. And before I get into the Dolphins and Cowboys,
Speaker 3: which is ultimately why I have you here on the
Speaker 3: show today. You got the ultimate gift this year and
Speaker 3: getting number thirteen on the Fish Tank podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, Marino episode is out. It is popping off.
Speaker 3: As the kids would say, it's been four days since
Speaker 3: that dropped. Are you still kind of gliding around South
Speaker 3: Florida as if you're in some kind of dream state.
Speaker 5: It's well, I mean, this is like the third interview
Speaker 5: I've done that people are asking me about my interview
Speaker 5: and OJ's interview with Dan Marinos, so that in and
Speaker 5: of itself is cool. But yeah, this was like when
Speaker 5: we conceptualize the fish Tank back in twenty eighteen, you
Speaker 5: start to do the shortlist of who do we know,
Speaker 5: who do we think we will do it, who do
Speaker 5: we have to get and right there at the top,
Speaker 5: as he always is, and anything Miami Dolphins was Dan
Speaker 5: Marino and we knew he would do it. Danny told
Speaker 5: us as much getting them and when it would happen,
Speaker 5: you know, that part was a big question mark. But
Speaker 5: this was the year thanks to Anne Nolan and everybody
Speaker 5: else who was involved in making sure that that could
Speaker 5: happen and finally come to a head.
Speaker 6: And Dany was great.
Speaker 5: And that's I think what has been the best part
Speaker 5: for me and for oj is he seemed to enjoy it.
Speaker 5: You know, we love when people come on the fish
Speaker 5: tank and it doesn't feel like they're just doing us
Speaker 5: a favor, that they're actually having a good time. And
Speaker 5: then the response from people externally is like, wow, we've
Speaker 5: never heard Dan like that, you know. Or I talked
Speaker 5: to somebody today who knows him very well and it
Speaker 5: was like, that's Dan, Like that's the Dan that we
Speaker 5: know that not everybody gets to see. And so that
Speaker 5: was a really cool thing. But I'm laughing about when
Speaker 5: you said the ultimate gift because earlier in the week
Speaker 5: we did this, I got to be a part of
Speaker 5: this fantasy camp that we did with Dan and he
Speaker 5: at the end of it, he was taking pictures with
Speaker 5: all of the participants and he literally he was kind
Speaker 5: of like going to get pictures with Santa and the
Speaker 5: mall and he sat down there and everybody sat down
Speaker 5: next to him and they took a picture, and it
Speaker 5: was like, kind of what do you want for Christmas?
Speaker 6: A picture with Dan Marino? And I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: you look like Santa.
Speaker 5: He goes SE's getting cold, you know, And so that
Speaker 5: was just classic, right, classic Dan. But yeah, it was
Speaker 5: super cool seeing you get this a lot more frequently
Speaker 5: than we do, Travis, but seeing the podcast appear on
Speaker 5: the Apple top charts and.
Speaker 6: All of those things amidst the damn Reno effect, and
Speaker 6: it's awesome.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's cool to see that, and like you said,
Speaker 3: having him in his natural element too, because the text
Speaker 3: I've been saying from guys that I know that, like
Speaker 3: the fish Tank podcast, same type of reaction in terms
Speaker 3: of we've seen Dan do things where he's maybe you know.
Speaker 1: Put into a box a little bit, but this was
Speaker 1: not that at all.
Speaker 3: It was the genuine article and then the fact that
Speaker 3: someone that knows him says that to what better confirmation
Speaker 3: than that? So you are knocking out a bunch of
Speaker 3: things off your checklist by coming to the studio today
Speaker 3: because you got the gifts dropped off. But the main
Speaker 3: reason you come in, aside from the podcast here is
Speaker 3: to get the press release right. You do not want
Speaker 3: to see Seth Levitt pulling up to hard Rocks anyone
Speaker 3: without his press release or his laptop will just happened too.
Speaker 5: Yes, laptop, which I mean the two things that are
Speaker 5: most important to me and my credential I haven't forgotten yet.
Speaker 5: I do not want to have to reach out to
Speaker 5: VIA and say, hey, Verra, bad news, but I don't
Speaker 5: have my credential.
Speaker 6: No, but I need my laptop.
Speaker 5: I like to have my and I I worked in
Speaker 5: the media relations department that press release and what it means.
Speaker 5: And again, the next stop on the gift giving is
Speaker 5: going to be to the communications staff. All the time
Speaker 5: that they put in when everybody's celebrating a win or
Speaker 5: frustrated after a loss, they're still up there for three hours,
Speaker 5: you know, pounding away at the keyboard and coming up
Speaker 5: with numbers and finding ways to tell the story of
Speaker 5: this team.
Speaker 6: And that stuff helps me, It really does.
Speaker 5: I look at the game differently than you do, certainly
Speaker 5: different than jew differently than Jews does but having that
Speaker 5: the totality of that perspective is great.
Speaker 6: So I love getting that release.
Speaker 3: I think besides Mike McDaniel and Butch Berry, who are
Speaker 3: confirmed in the building at four oh eight after the
Speaker 3: Titans game, I think Brett Breckaisen was the other one
Speaker 3: in the building also breaking out the weekly release there
Speaker 3: for the Jets game last week. And speaking of the credential,
Speaker 3: have I told you the Jason Taylor story about Chicago
Speaker 3: Uber to the game?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I dropped my credential. I tell you that.
Speaker 5: Oh I didn't know you dropped the credential. I just
Speaker 5: told you, you know. I got to text, Hey, I finally
Speaker 5: met JT. I'm like, are you in the uber wog?
Speaker 5: Because I knew it because he was texting me.
Speaker 2: I do you know?
Speaker 6: The frickin' bus left, so we got all its all.
Speaker 1: Here, yo, JT's not here.
Speaker 3: I felt good about being with JT in that regard
Speaker 3: because talent was not all there at that point. But
Speaker 3: we're walking up to Soldier Field and we get to
Speaker 3: the checkpoint or like the security point in the stadium
Speaker 3: and I looked out at my belt, My credentials not
Speaker 3: there anymore, and JT Bless his heart, He's like, I
Speaker 3: feel bad, but bro like.
Speaker 6: So I had to.
Speaker 3: Run back and luckily it was about one hundred yards.
Speaker 6: Behind us on the WOW so it literally fell off.
Speaker 1: It just had fallen off my belt loop. So I
Speaker 1: found it. Anyway, that's in the weeds.
Speaker 3: Let's get back to this game, and I want to
Speaker 3: start here and resurrect a segment we did on the
Speaker 3: postgame show this past Sunday from the four you can
Speaker 3: come find us out by the Dan Marino statue in
Speaker 3: the South Plaza in front of the team store at
Speaker 3: hard Rock Stadium. And I'll talk about this later on
Speaker 3: this podcast. With both Rob Jones and Elijah Campbell, we
Speaker 3: talked about good losses right and gosh, I hate that
Speaker 3: term so much. Good loss So I'll borrow from coach
Speaker 3: here a purposeful loss against the Titans. The fans of
Speaker 3: draft time have heard me talk about this and make
Speaker 3: this case about how special this team is, not just
Speaker 3: from the talent on the field, but the rottery has
Speaker 3: hide that locker room. But I'm calling on my press conference,
Speaker 3: Consiglieri here and Seth Levitt, how do you think this team,
Speaker 3: this coach can make that loss purposeful and how it
Speaker 3: can benefit us heading into this gauntlet, which is basically
Speaker 3: the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Before the playoffs, Cowboys, Ravens and Bills.
Speaker 5: Yeah, win right, that's right, that's how Now I listen.
Speaker 5: As we know, and we like to talk about here,
Speaker 5: only one team in the history of this sport has
Speaker 5: gone undefeated and had no losses.
Speaker 6: So every team every year is going.
Speaker 5: To suffer a loss at some point, or multiple losses
Speaker 5: at some point, and then what do you do from there?
Speaker 5: And if losses start to snowpile and become five in
Speaker 5: a row, seven or zerwo things that we've seen the
Speaker 5: last handful of years here as well, I don't know
Speaker 5: that any of those.
Speaker 6: Are good losses. You know, what do you learn from that?
Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel has done amazing job of making anybody who
Speaker 5: cares about the Miami Dolphins understand adversity is an opportunity
Speaker 5: that things are going to be tough. He loves the
Speaker 5: word strain, and all of those things come out of losses.
Speaker 5: And so it's once that does happen, where do you
Speaker 5: go from there? Do you try and burn the tape
Speaker 5: and look to the next opponent, as I've tried to
Speaker 5: do on a postgame show or two much of the
Speaker 5: or do you dig into it? And how cool was
Speaker 5: it that we got to see that on Hard Knocks
Speaker 5: where he's like, look, I know we don't want to
Speaker 5: do this, but we're gonna spend twenty minutes here, We're
Speaker 5: going to take it all in. But then where do
Speaker 5: we go from here? How do we make it purposeful?
Speaker 5: They it galvanized a team, they bonded together. We saw
Speaker 5: what they did against the New York Jets. But it
Speaker 5: can't just be a one and done because now it's
Speaker 5: the most important part of this season. And I you know,
Speaker 5: I've got the radio show later today, and you know,
Speaker 5: I've every now and then I break out, and you
Speaker 5: know what I think, And I think that this is
Speaker 5: this has the potential to be the most the most
Speaker 5: meaningful game of Mike McDaniel's coaching career and of this
Speaker 5: group of Miami Dolphins, primarily because it's the next game,
Speaker 5: you know, but there's this is a great opportunity for
Speaker 5: this team to play meaningful games in December and to
Speaker 5: beat teams that are the caliber of teams that you
Speaker 5: will face if you play in the playoffs. To understand
Speaker 5: that you can beat those teams and to beat them
Speaker 5: when it matters most. And so if all of that
Speaker 5: can happen, then yeah, I could say that was a
Speaker 5: good loss if you could pinpoint that that collapse at
Speaker 5: the end of the Tennessee game, a game that if
Speaker 5: they had held on, they didn't play particularly great. I
Speaker 5: mean you said you dug into the tape. It wasn't
Speaker 5: great tape from start to finish, but they did enough
Speaker 5: to get a lead that they probably could have and
Speaker 5: should have held onto. They didn't happen that way. Maybe
Speaker 5: if they did, if it did happen that way, they
Speaker 5: wouldn't be as focused, they wouldn't be as understanding of
Speaker 5: what's in front of them as they are right now.
Speaker 5: And so if the next couple of games go the
Speaker 5: way we'd like to see them go, Travis, then yeah,
Speaker 5: I think you could say that was a good loss.
Speaker 3: And all will be forgotten for sure if you get
Speaker 3: a couple of wins here in your back pocket, especially
Speaker 3: think in the Buffalo game. If you can make that
Speaker 3: game irrelevant in terms of the division race, that would
Speaker 3: be I think I'll be forgiven at that point.
Speaker 6: I'll tell you a quick story and since we talked
Speaker 6: about j T.
Speaker 5: Jason Taylor, not you know Jonathan Santos, who also amazing guy.
Speaker 5: But as we talked about Jason Taylor, go back to
Speaker 5: Nick Saban's first year where that team was reeling and
Speaker 5: there's a great story about them getting destroyed in Cleveland
Speaker 5: by a Cleveland team that was not supposed to be
Speaker 5: good enough to beat them, and coach Saban after, you know,
Speaker 5: kind of just saying what he felt he could say,
Speaker 5: he was at a loss at that point. He says,
Speaker 5: does anybody have anything to say? And here comes Jason Taylor,
Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer, flipping over tables and essentially told
Speaker 5: the room like, you know, no matter how badly we're losing,
Speaker 5: you never quit and if you want to quit, just
Speaker 5: quit now. And then he said he'd pay their salary
Speaker 5: the rest of the year, which is a classic line,
Speaker 5: but the point being is they went on and won
Speaker 5: the rest of the games that year.
Speaker 6: And so, did you want to lose to Cleveland?
Speaker 5: Did you want Zach Thomas to tear a rotator cuff
Speaker 5: for whatever he did in that game?
Speaker 6: No, you don't want any of those to happen.
Speaker 5: But if you were able to make that lost purposeful
Speaker 5: and turn that into a run like they did, or
Speaker 5: a run that this team is even better positioned to make.
Speaker 6: Then yeah, that's not so bad.
Speaker 3: And having the right guys in the locker room two
Speaker 3: JT was that right guy this locker whom I think
Speaker 3: full of guys just like that.
Speaker 1: So that's really a really good point there.
Speaker 3: And to kind of continue the point about this Dallas game,
Speaker 3: so we saw Buffalo on offense run the ball very
Speaker 3: successfully against this Cowboys defense. And you know, no offense
Speaker 3: has run the ball more in neutral situations in December.
Speaker 3: It's basically like an option in terms of the analytics
Speaker 3: about a first down first and ten for instance, as neutral.
Speaker 3: No one has ran the ball more in neutral situations
Speaker 3: than Mike McDaniel so far in December, and he said
Speaker 3: he was going to do it. There was a press
Speaker 3: where he talked about running football more in the month
Speaker 3: of December, playing defense and running the football. So my
Speaker 3: question is, do you think the Dolphins in this game,
Speaker 3: like Buffalo did last week, can turn back the clock
Speaker 3: to some of those great seventies Dolphins in Cowboys games
Speaker 3: a Super Bowl, no less, and run the ball with
Speaker 3: that kind of success.
Speaker 5: It'd be fun to watch. And look how we talk
Speaker 5: about fun to watch. I mean what we've seen with
Speaker 5: Tua and Tyreek and Jalen Waddle and the passing game
Speaker 5: has been incredible and it's exciting. But man, who doesn't
Speaker 5: get fired up in December watching you know, watching a
Speaker 5: team just grind it out and they've got the guys
Speaker 5: to do it. This as much adversity as this offensive
Speaker 5: line is faced, no matter who they put up there,
Speaker 5: those guys seem to run block really well. You know,
Speaker 5: there's some malers up there, and it's fun to watch
Speaker 5: those guys connect and make that happen. Raheem Mostert is
Speaker 5: playing like I don't know what planet he's from. The
Speaker 5: the things that he's doing, the records that were talked
Speaker 5: about this past week, and at the age that he's
Speaker 5: doing it, and he is playing at such a high
Speaker 5: level that he's ready to go. You know, he's hungry
Speaker 5: to get the rock, and devon a Chan seems to be,
Speaker 5: you know, picking up where he left off now that
Speaker 5: he's getting healthy.
Speaker 6: I think that they have the ability to do it.
Speaker 5: Now they have to go out there and make it happen,
Speaker 5: but I think they have the ability to do it,
Speaker 5: and I think think this is the time to do it.
Speaker 6: It is December.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's gonna be seventy four degrees, knock on wood
Speaker 5: and great conditions, but it's not always going to be
Speaker 5: that way, and so yeah, why not start now.
Speaker 3: Not to mention a trip to Baltimore next week where
Speaker 3: it could be a little bit chillier. I saw the weather,
Speaker 3: and they're going to run the ball degrees. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: They're gonna run the balls balls anybody. They did just
Speaker 3: lose their trying running back Keith Mitchell to an ACL
Speaker 3: so they're gonna be down him in that game.
Speaker 1: But that's that's for next week.
Speaker 3: And like you said that, potentially, if you take care
Speaker 3: of business, that could be your last World game of
Speaker 3: the year, which would be obviously very ideal. On the
Speaker 3: topic of the running game, quick detour here from the
Speaker 3: game itself, because I know that you have a close
Speaker 3: relationship with this guy, the Walter Peyton Man of the
Speaker 3: Year nominee and an award that you track very closely.
Speaker 1: JT had once won that award.
Speaker 3: So I'm just curious to get your take here because
Speaker 3: Alec is so critical on the field for this offense.
Speaker 3: I mean he does things that you cannot replace, the
Speaker 3: role that he fulfills and the options that gives you
Speaker 3: in terms of personnel groupings, but also in the community.
Speaker 3: Tough to find a better guy than Alec. Ingle just
Speaker 3: kind of tell me about your relationship with Alec and
Speaker 3: what he's meant to the community, said down here in
Speaker 3: South Florida.
Speaker 5: Well, you were just saying couple of minutes ago about
Speaker 5: having the right guys in the locker room, and I
Speaker 5: think you were specifically talking about leadership on the field.
Speaker 6: Alec checks that box.
Speaker 5: Then, as you said, leadership off the field, Alec checks
Speaker 5: that box. He's just he's kind of a unicorn. And
Speaker 5: those guys exist, but a lot of times they're playing
Speaker 5: quarterback or they're you know, in this this high profile position,
Speaker 5: or they're a first round draft pick. And here's a
Speaker 5: guy who he's playing full back. There's like seven of
Speaker 5: them in the league anymore, you know. I mean, so
Speaker 5: he's he's playing that position. That's you know, they kind
Speaker 5: of put those guys in the dark room with raw
Speaker 5: Meaton and I mean that's that's like what you expect
Speaker 5: from a fullback. And you know, the story of him
Speaker 5: not being drafted and all of those things.
Speaker 6: And he's on his second team.
Speaker 5: And it wasn't because he was a two time All
Speaker 5: Pro and then signed some big free agency deal. It
Speaker 5: was because he was a team captain there, suffered an
Speaker 5: injury and they said, we don't want you anymore. So
Speaker 5: he's got all of those scars, he's got all of
Speaker 5: those things that Mike McDaniel loves to see you players
Speaker 5: because he identifies with it and and he is just
Speaker 5: a special individual on and off the field. I love
Speaker 5: his micd up when he does that. But I never
Speaker 5: realized it. I could appreciate what he was doing on
Speaker 5: the field, but when we had him on the fish tank,
Speaker 5: I was like, who is this guy? And he I mean,
Speaker 5: what an incredible guy. I have gotten to know him
Speaker 5: a little bit. He's reached out to me to talk
Speaker 5: about foundations. And how many times have I had a
Speaker 5: guy call and say, I want to talk about a
Speaker 5: long term sustainability of my foundation.
Speaker 1: You tell me, I don't.
Speaker 6: Get that call very often, Travis.
Speaker 5: For a guy who was only four or five years
Speaker 5: in the league, I mean, that's I can't say Jason
Speaker 5: didn't start his foundation until he was seven years in
Speaker 5: the league. And long term sustainability. You know, we had
Speaker 5: to develop an understanding of what that meant and why
Speaker 5: that was important. And so you've got a guy now
Speaker 5: who recognizes that he's so invested in the community and
Speaker 5: it hits so close to home because of his personal
Speaker 5: story with adoption. So really special guy. There's a handful
Speaker 5: of guys that probably were worthy of that nomination, but
Speaker 5: certainly alec Ingold is And as you said, Jason won
Speaker 5: that award in two thousand and seven. It's very meaningful
Speaker 5: to us as an organization. I have it sitting there
Speaker 5: in our office kind of like we want a Grammy,
Speaker 5: because that's what it feels like as a nonprofit director.
Speaker 5: And so every year we don't pound our chest or
Speaker 5: announce it, but we always reach out to the winner
Speaker 5: and make a contribution to a charity of their choice
Speaker 5: just in honor of them being the team's nominee, because
Speaker 5: we know how meaningful that ward is.
Speaker 1: Awesome stuff there.
Speaker 3: Also, go ahead and get to the Pro Bowl voting website,
Speaker 3: the NFL dot com, mimyd Dolphins dot com, Twitter, and
Speaker 3: get alec Ingole to the Pro Bowl. He deserves it
Speaker 3: this year and all your Miami Dolphins players as well.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take a break right there, come back.
Speaker 3: I have two more questions here for Seth. That's next
Speaker 3: Draft Time podcast, your host, Travis Wingfield, brought to you
Speaker 3: by Auto Nation. We left off the previous segment talking
Speaker 3: about the fullback alec Ingold and some special things that
Speaker 3: he does on the field and in the community.
Speaker 1: But I want to spend it now to.
Speaker 3: The player that everyone seems to be talking about these
Speaker 3: days game in particular, like Dak and Tua are these
Speaker 3: lightning rods. It's crazy, it is, and they're great players
Speaker 3: who have these polarizing I guess personas in terms of
Speaker 3: you know, the major networks talking about them.
Speaker 1: You know, did you see the rich Eisen story.
Speaker 3: But he talked about meeting Tua and he was telling him,
Speaker 3: like I have the segment about Salty too at the
Speaker 3: press conference, and two is like that that it's not me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, where's my kid's toy just so I can think
Speaker 5: about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I'm like, that was such a cool story
Speaker 1: to hear that.
Speaker 3: So it's it's funny how you know he's getting these
Speaker 3: guys all ride up and he's just like, brother, I'm
Speaker 3: here to play football and then do nothing else. So exactly,
Speaker 3: and you know, for the quarterback, for Tua, And I
Speaker 3: hate this idea asking questions that I hate apparently all
Speaker 3: day to day.
Speaker 6: Yeah, why am I that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: You kind of soften the language on it, right, Like
Speaker 3: words matter, I've heard just hate before, but legacy defining
Speaker 3: games or even a stretch of games for a twenty
Speaker 3: five year old quarterback. And my argument is that he's
Speaker 3: got so many more games ahead of him in big games.
Speaker 3: But I digress on that. So I'll frame the question
Speaker 3: this way. What you hope to see from Tua over
Speaker 3: these final three games?
Speaker 6: I want to see what we've seen all year from Tua,
Speaker 6: you know. I want to see leadership.
Speaker 5: I want to see good decision making and certainly elite performance,
Speaker 5: which for the most part is what we've gotten.
Speaker 6: And more than anything, I want to see Tua.
Speaker 5: I want to see him behind center, which has been
Speaker 5: so exciting that each and every game this season. They're
Speaker 5: fourteen games in Travis and there has never been a question,
Speaker 5: like never been a question that Tua would be your
Speaker 5: starting quarterback. That has not happened his entire career here,
Speaker 5: and so obviously I don't want that to stop. They've
Speaker 5: got more games to play, hopefully a lot more than
Speaker 5: are you know, even printed on the schedule right now,
Speaker 5: but they need him under center. I think that that's
Speaker 5: when this team performs at its best. It's when the
Speaker 5: offense performs at its best. We know when he performs
Speaker 5: at his best. He's an elite quarterback. You're the first
Speaker 5: guy to pound the table and say that you told
Speaker 5: me that, You told just that, and I think Tua's
Speaker 5: proving that. But this team responds to him. Team, this offense,
Speaker 5: and really the entire team. There's a reason he's a captain.
Speaker 5: He wasn't just he wasn't anointed a captain. He was
Speaker 5: selected as a captain by his teammates. You can tell
Speaker 5: how much they love the guy. You can see his
Speaker 5: growth in every press conference. You can see his growth
Speaker 5: and what you hear from him on the field and
Speaker 5: the conversations he has with two of them, because again,
Speaker 5: we have this great insight from hard knocks and what
Speaker 5: I do hope though, is that we know how good
Speaker 5: he can play. I am hoping that he is able
Speaker 5: to show how well he can play in these big moments,
Speaker 5: because these are the biggest games. He didn't even get
Speaker 5: to play in December basically. I mean, he played some
Speaker 5: games in December, but we really didn't get to see
Speaker 5: two at his best in December last year. I hope
Speaker 5: that we have the opportunity to see that because I
Speaker 5: think it's in there, and you know, he wants to win. Gosh,
Speaker 5: he wants to win for all the right reasons, and
Speaker 5: I think all of those things are there. The games
Speaker 5: are a lot of warm weather games as well, and
Speaker 5: so I think the table set for him to be successful.
Speaker 5: I hope that they can keep them up right and
Speaker 5: keep them clean and let to a cook and we
Speaker 5: can see that he is the quarterback that you believe
Speaker 5: he is and that most of.
Speaker 6: Us believe he is.
Speaker 3: That's I mean, you're preaching to the choir here, and
Speaker 3: I think, like you said, it sets up for a
Speaker 3: chance for him to really do something special here. And
Speaker 3: speaking of doing something special, a win would equal a
Speaker 3: first eleven win season in fifteen years. It would get
Speaker 3: him into the playoffs. It woul clinch a playoff spot,
Speaker 3: which would be the first back to back playoff appearances
Speaker 3: since two thousand and two thousand and one. There would
Speaker 3: still be two games to go and much more to achieve.
Speaker 3: But that feels a little bit like a bit of
Speaker 3: a reason to celebrate if you can this week, because
Speaker 3: you always rud Us on the show like the Dolphins
Speaker 3: are ten and four, Travis and Juice, like you always
Speaker 3: give us the bird's eye thirty thousand foot view. If
Speaker 3: they win this week they do those two things, that's
Speaker 3: a reason to celebrate.
Speaker 5: Right, eleven and four. I think what did it's say
Speaker 5: in the release. It's the first time since nineteen ninety
Speaker 5: that they've started a season eleven and for forty three years.
Speaker 5: Who's behind center in nineteen ninety that's Danny, That's Dan Marino.
Speaker 5: That's right, you're talking Dan Marino. Don Shula is the
Speaker 5: head coach. If all of a sudden, you can do
Speaker 5: something that hasn't been done since you had Dan Marino
Speaker 5: and Don Shula and you're not doing it with Tua
Speaker 5: tonguea Iiloa and Mike McDaniel, that's promising for this season
Speaker 5: and I think many seasons ahead.
Speaker 1: Where Seth Levitt nineteen ninety.
Speaker 5: Uh Seth Levitt in nineteen ninety was at Piper High School.
Speaker 5: There you go hiding in the corner.
Speaker 1: I was waiting for you ask me how old I was.
Speaker 1: I was three.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I figured that was coming.
Speaker 3: Seth, good stuff, man, You guys know where to find him.
Speaker 3: The Fish Tank Podcast with Oj McDuffie. Check out the
Speaker 3: Dan Marino episode. In fact, if you're a true fan,
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and challenge you right now. If you're
Speaker 3: a true fan, listen to the podcast and you watch
Speaker 3: the YouTube. Double up on those things at the fish
Speaker 3: Tank eighty one on social my postgame co host along
Speaker 3: with Juice on the iHeart at Fox Sports nine forty
Speaker 3: and Big one oh five nine FM. And then Seth,
Speaker 3: I'll give you the last word here, tell the people
Speaker 3: about your brand new radio show with Juice coming up,
Speaker 3: or rather with Juice, and then what's coming up on
Speaker 3: the fish Tank.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, We've got the the Dolphins Happy Hour Show
Speaker 5: now on Mondays and Fridays. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: We're doing that on iHeart through the end of the
Speaker 5: season here and seeing how it goes. Monday are going
Speaker 5: to be at a restaurant at Twin Peaks where people
Speaker 5: can come out and enjoy it in person. And then
Speaker 5: you know, we'll be in studio on Fridays, like as
Speaker 5: in this Friday, we'll be in studio. But it's just
Speaker 5: a way to kind of react to the game and
Speaker 5: react to our postgame show and then on Fridays.
Speaker 6: Look ahead to the game.
Speaker 5: I love we've got the Wears Wingfield segment that we
Speaker 5: do on Mondays because you love to tell us where
Speaker 5: we are and who you met and who you see,
Speaker 5: So we've got to get that update every Mondays. But
Speaker 5: it's just a cool way for us to continue to
Speaker 5: talk about the current team, kind of like we were
Speaker 5: doing in spaces back in the day, as in last year,
Speaker 5: and so now we can do that on the radio.
Speaker 5: People can call in and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: And then this coming Tuesday, right after Christmas, you're talking
Speaker 5: about the running game, talking about these home run hitters
Speaker 5: we have on this offense. So Lamar Miller dives into
Speaker 5: the tank. There's a guy who's taking it the distance
Speaker 5: once or twice in his career.
Speaker 3: Ninety seven yard touchdown rush once upon a time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's two of them in his career, ninety seven.
Speaker 5: One here one with Houston, the only player in NFL
Speaker 5: history to have two ninety seven yard touchdown runs from
Speaker 5: two different team.
Speaker 3: That's I did not know that crazy, And check that
Speaker 3: out on your fist Tank podcast wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 3: Go ahead and dive in Seth, appreciate you man, and
Speaker 3: happy holidays, and away he goes. Great chat there with
Speaker 3: my good friend Seth Levit again. Check out the fish
Speaker 3: Tank podcast. Let's go ahead and finish up segment two
Speaker 3: here with some soundbites from head coach Mike McDaniel, who
Speaker 3: first talked about the injury report. The only player that
Speaker 3: was not at practice on the practice field was Robert Hunt,
Speaker 3: so everyone has a chance to go.
Speaker 1: It looks like come Sunday.
Speaker 3: He did tell us that Austin Jackson was back at
Speaker 3: practice and potentially could play Sunday.
Speaker 1: Feels good about Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3: We'll find out about guys like Javon holland Devon a
Speaker 3: Chan will play in the game. But for your injury report,
Speaker 3: go ahead and check out my Twitter right around four
Speaker 3: thirty or so five o'clock, it should be up there.
Speaker 3: We'll get to the full game status for Dolphins and
Speaker 3: Cowboys on Sunday. Let's go ahead and go to Mike
Speaker 3: McDaniel here though, because he had some good informative stuff
Speaker 3: at his Friday press conference, starting here with how does
Speaker 3: the offense evolve from September through December?
Speaker 1: Great answer here from coach.
Speaker 2: You're very aware of what your.
Speaker 7: You're practicing and the concepts that your players are comfortable with,
Speaker 7: and then you're very aware of what defenses see and
Speaker 7: what your tendencies are. And so then you're you're evolving
Speaker 7: things constantly. Problems, new problem solvings occur, and by the
Speaker 7: end of the season, you're you're orchestrating like our.
Speaker 2: Offense knows more.
Speaker 7: Plays and and knows the offense so much better than
Speaker 7: they do week one, and that some of the stuff
Speaker 7: that you do week because you're accumulating reps and you're
Speaker 7: as long as you're building upon things and building upon
Speaker 7: each other. We couldn't come to the players week one
Speaker 7: with the game plan that we have week sixteen because
Speaker 7: it would be like WHOA.
Speaker 2: You're adjusting to what works for your players, You're.
Speaker 7: Doubling down on new things, and then you're evolving to
Speaker 7: how defenses there are going against you.
Speaker 2: So it's a.
Speaker 7: Multiplicity of evolution every single year. And I've always found
Speaker 7: that at the end of the season, you know, typically
Speaker 7: especially last year, this year for our guys is our
Speaker 7: offense is more complex because they've spent more time and
Speaker 7: been more diligent and no more things, and we have
Speaker 7: new motions and different snap points and new combination blocks
Speaker 7: and all sorts of things that are building. You know,
Speaker 7: It's one of the best parts about everything we're doing
Speaker 7: here is truly the player's scheme because it is highlighting
Speaker 7: what they do well and having them evolve live.
Speaker 2: Speed during the course of the season.
Speaker 7: So it is very much a different different scope than
Speaker 7: when we first start in September.
Speaker 3: Next he was asked about from me dan Quinn in
Speaker 3: his past relationship with the Cowboys defensive coordinator and if
Speaker 3: you go back to the previous experiences playing the Cowboys
Speaker 3: in the playoffs with the forty nine ers being on
Speaker 3: staff with dan Quinn back in twenty sixteen, do you
Speaker 3: draw on that stuff or is it just the current Cowboys.
Speaker 3: Once again, here's head coach Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 7: You know when you watch tape, I know firmly where
Speaker 7: I can actually hear him conduct a team meeting. There's
Speaker 7: a couple of players I was watching. I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: he loved this clip. He said, this is us for sure,
Speaker 7: and then you kind of know where he's gonna where
Speaker 7: he's gonna emphasize.
Speaker 2: But it's for me, it's like once you see it,
Speaker 2: you can and see it.
Speaker 7: I can see all of his his relationship with his players,
Speaker 7: how connected he is and how willing they are to strain,
Speaker 7: like on every play that I watch, so I can
Speaker 7: see his coaching just littered within the actual scheme. And
Speaker 7: then you also know that, uh, I knew the second
Speaker 7: the game happened last week that the version of the
Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys we're about to see was going into the
Speaker 7: game expecting to have their best tackling day and to
Speaker 7: force some turnovers. Because the second that a defense that
Speaker 7: has really been as good as anyone in the league.
Speaker 7: At both of those things. You know everybody has down games,
Speaker 7: but you know you're going to return to your your priorities,
Speaker 7: to your mantra, to to the backbone of what makes
Speaker 7: you you after a game where guys are a little irritated,
Speaker 7: so much like us two weeks ago, this Dallas Cowboys team,
Speaker 7: you know, has a bone to pick with football in
Speaker 7: general and wants to and we'll want to or we're
Speaker 7: gonna get their best shot, which is what we want,
Speaker 7: because you know, we're not just trying to we're not
Speaker 7: just trying to accumulate wins. We're trying to get better
Speaker 7: and be our best in this time of the year.
Speaker 7: That'll we've built up all year to have a challenge
Speaker 7: like this, so we're excited to take it.
Speaker 3: And this stuff kind of got the juices flown in
Speaker 3: the press conference because people were asking great questions about
Speaker 3: playing or calling plays rather And the last question here
Speaker 3: for coach McDaniel was how far in advance do you
Speaker 3: plan plays? Here's McDaniel talking about his in gameplay calling process.
Speaker 1: Fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: Right here.
Speaker 7: You script the first twenty four to start the game off,
Speaker 7: but typically on any down, I'm thinking one of three
Speaker 7: things the next call, Like so the plays called, I'm
Speaker 7: i have about three plays on my mind, one for
Speaker 7: an earned first down, one for zero to negative gain,
Speaker 7: and one for like half the game. So like, for instance,
Speaker 7: if it's first and ten, I'm thinking for the next
Speaker 7: play call while we're lining up for first and ten,
Speaker 7: second and five or second and ten, So then you
Speaker 7: have those three so that you can keep the tempo
Speaker 7: of the game and then you get to second down
Speaker 7: and then it goes to two scenarios, or I guess
Speaker 7: it's three. Still, it's your first and ten call if
Speaker 7: you get no yardage with that third down in distances,
Speaker 7: and if you're somewhere in between. So you're doing that
Speaker 7: on every play at least, that's how I do it,
Speaker 7: every play for three hours, which is why you shouldn't
Speaker 7: judge me so much on my postgame press conferences.
Speaker 3: There you go, segment two in the book. Let's go
Speaker 3: ahead and take our last break right there. Come back
Speaker 3: on the other side. We're gonna hear from Rob Jones
Speaker 3: and Elijah Campbell on adversity, a couple of guys that
Speaker 3: had to overcome a lot this year to put themselves
Speaker 3: in position to help this football team down the stretch. Plus,
Speaker 3: I have another Friday rank for you guys on big
Speaker 3: games and legacies and what it all means. That's all
Speaker 3: next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to
Speaker 3: you by Auto Nation. Let's go ahead and dive into
Speaker 3: these chats I had in the locker room this week
Speaker 3: with Dolphins offensive lineman Rob Jones and safety Elijah Campbell.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and kick it off here. First with
Speaker 3: Rob Jones I've been thinking about you because you had
Speaker 3: obviously a adversity in the beginning of the year, right
Speaker 3: injury and training camp, had to come back, don't get
Speaker 3: a chance to start, you trying to get your chance
Speaker 3: to get out there and play. I'm just curious, like
Speaker 3: how you've processed all that, how you feel to have
Speaker 3: gone through on Sunday and played so well in a
Speaker 3: big way for the team, after all you've been through
Speaker 3: this year. Man.
Speaker 8: You know, it's just you know, it's just take it
Speaker 8: one day at a time. You know, I went through
Speaker 8: a lot this year so far, and to keep trying
Speaker 8: to you know, these stag days and just keep getting better,
Speaker 8: keep getting back to myself.
Speaker 4: And that's all it is.
Speaker 8: You know, I went out there Sunday. I'll just try
Speaker 8: to do the best I could. You know, it's the
Speaker 8: less I can get it better for him, you know,
Speaker 8: I'm just keep stacking from there. But it was all
Speaker 8: about just me, like just trying to get back to it.
Speaker 8: Like you know, it's a hard journey, but I mean
Speaker 8: football not easy. If it was easy, everybody can do it.
Speaker 3: Do you feel like this year you a little bit
Speaker 3: about adversity? Uh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 8: You know, like this year is just it just taught me,
Speaker 8: you know, just keep my head and I'll just keep
Speaker 8: grinding feeling no matter what happens. You know, I gotta
Speaker 8: do attack whatever happens. You know, if I get hurt,
Speaker 8: tack rehab tech, you know the treatment you know, had
Speaker 8: discipline fa me, No.
Speaker 3: You're good enough because my my parallel to that is,
Speaker 3: like the team obviously went through I think their most
Speaker 3: adversity in the Titans game, right, Like you guys were
Speaker 3: all pretty down, sure as the fans were. How do
Speaker 3: you think that this team experience in that adversity here
Speaker 3: in December can benefit them going forward the next couple
Speaker 3: of games?
Speaker 6: I mean the Simmer.
Speaker 8: The Simmer is one of you know guys, you know
Speaker 8: that's when football really imported. You know, they support all
Speaker 8: on the way, but you know, best football get playing
Speaker 8: the summer, you know, because that's when you know everything
Speaker 8: for it comes, you know, you start looking to the future.
Speaker 8: But you know, you know, us just having that little
Speaker 8: adversity just helped them become close as a team. Maybe
Speaker 8: you know, just focus on a little details, just keep
Speaker 8: getting better.
Speaker 3: About the offensive line being so every game we're having
Speaker 3: we have a new combination on the offensive line and
Speaker 3: you guys continue to produce at a high level. What
Speaker 3: do you think that says about the makeup of that
Speaker 3: room for how you guys have been able performed this year.
Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, it's an amazing job that
Speaker 8: you know, Gria, Mike Frank you know even that and
Speaker 8: Bush did you know it was just you know them
Speaker 8: picking the guys and everything, you know, but getting everyone
Speaker 8: ready to play, you know, just coaching us play at.
Speaker 6: A high level. You know, the coolos to them.
Speaker 3: And then the last one I have for you here
Speaker 3: is watching the tape on Sunday, Like every big play
Speaker 3: you guys make, it was cool to watch the sideline
Speaker 3: like come to that guy and like celebrate them like
Speaker 3: Ethan Bonner's PBu you guys swarm him. Just curious about
Speaker 3: the camaraderie across this entire team, not just the old
Speaker 3: livery but the entire fifty three.
Speaker 1: You know, we just we just love each other.
Speaker 8: We love playing for each other, and you know that's
Speaker 8: all come down to and anybody get the opportunity. We
Speaker 8: just happy to see everyone get opportunity to go out
Speaker 8: there and play because you know, football is playing the NFL.
Speaker 8: You know, it's a blessing. You know, it's a hard
Speaker 8: thing to go out there and to be able to
Speaker 8: participate in this, you know, everybody being able to go
Speaker 8: out there, you know and just you know, contribute and
Speaker 8: just help each other, you know, that's amazing. So we
Speaker 8: just we love seeing everyone get opportunity and show the
Speaker 8: world what they could do.
Speaker 1: Appreciate it.
Speaker 3: And then of course Elijah Campbell's been through a lot
Speaker 3: this year, right, Like you come on into the season
Speaker 3: looking to get some some more defense res so you
Speaker 3: had all year. You get injured in training camp and
Speaker 3: it kind of carries into the season and now here
Speaker 3: you are making big plays in a big game for
Speaker 3: the team in December. I just want to kind of
Speaker 3: hear your your perspective on the journey of the season
Speaker 3: and kind of what overcoming that adversity meant to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, from a personal standpoint, I feel like everyone's been
Speaker 4: through some adversity within their career. Me whether it be
Speaker 4: on a certain team or just throughout my career having
Speaker 4: to go to the XFL and having to work my
Speaker 4: way through whatever situation I've been in. It's just about
Speaker 4: keeping keeping your nose down and just doing the work.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
Speaker 4: It's sad to say, like nobody's gonna feel bad for
Speaker 4: you at the end. So it's like you can't feel
Speaker 4: bad for yourself. You can't can't really expect sympathy. So
Speaker 4: like when things go bad, like us taking a loss,
Speaker 4: you know, you just got to know, like it really
Speaker 4: no one cares. All they're going to do is talk
Speaker 4: bad about you in the papers, you know, and it's
Speaker 4: just it's another little news clipping. So you just got
Speaker 4: to really hone in too, like your for one, when
Speaker 4: it comes to a team standpoint your own team and
Speaker 4: your teammates and understand that all you got is each
Speaker 4: other and kind of just build that chemistry in those moments,
Speaker 4: you know, when when you guys are all down, at
Speaker 4: least you're down together. And the one thing I'd say
Speaker 4: about this team is so far knocking with but like
Speaker 4: when we lose one, we're not losing one to the
Speaker 4: next week, you know, So it's like we we definitely
Speaker 4: learn from our losses.
Speaker 3: What do you think so you think that low Because
Speaker 3: we had this conversation on our post game show me
Speaker 3: and you know, Jay and seth On, we do the
Speaker 3: postgame show at the stadium, and we were talking about
Speaker 3: is there such a thing as a good loss? Like,
Speaker 3: obviously in the standings, it's not good, but like you
Speaker 3: can you can learn from that, right. Coach talks about
Speaker 3: what we saw a Hard Knocks too. I don't want
Speaker 3: to ask you was that a good loss, but like
Speaker 3: it sounds like you guys took that and really made
Speaker 3: it purposeful.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, No, for sure.
Speaker 4: I would rather lose a few games in the season,
Speaker 4: then win all season and then take that loss in
Speaker 4: the end, you know, so at least we know what
Speaker 4: it takes to lose, and we can learn from those
Speaker 4: losses before it's too late, you know, when it's a
Speaker 4: one and done kind of game. So as long as
Speaker 4: you're learning from those games, I mean, you can turn
Speaker 4: any loss into a good loss, you could say. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: as long as long as you're able to come back
Speaker 4: the next week and play, you can just capitalize on
Speaker 4: those mistakes and learn from them. But like when it
Speaker 4: comes to these later in the season of playoffs and stuff,
Speaker 4: it's like there's no there's no good loss. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: it's like that's when there's no time for those mistakes,
Speaker 4: you know, you really got to find two of those things.
Speaker 1: That's really good stuff. What did it mean to you?
Speaker 3: Like the past breakup you made on Sunday was so
Speaker 3: cool to watch just kind of the range you showed
Speaker 3: and make making that big play the ball.
Speaker 1: What does that mean to you?
Speaker 3: To be able to get on the field and defense
Speaker 3: and go make a big play like that.
Speaker 4: It meant a lot just to be able to do
Speaker 4: something for the team. You know, it's something for obviously
Speaker 4: special teams. I'm always trying to make plays on that,
Speaker 4: but and I try to do my best with that.
Speaker 4: But like from a defensive perspective, you know, you kind
Speaker 4: of get lost when you're a backup. You know, people
Speaker 4: are focused on who's on the field. So whenever all
Speaker 4: of us, myself, Ethan, any of the guys that were
Speaker 4: in there V. Jones, like we're able to prove to
Speaker 4: them that we still have that ability.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So you you allude to Ethan's play on the football
Speaker 3: like you had the big one too. Every time I
Speaker 3: watch you guys on tape, y'all like celebrate each other
Speaker 3: like it's the biggest play.
Speaker 1: Y' all just made like the Ethan PBu.
Speaker 3: Like I would have thought that was for like a
Speaker 3: conference championship. Just watching the way you guys celebrated. Why
Speaker 3: do you think this team is like that? Like what's
Speaker 3: different about this team and the way y' all have
Speaker 3: that camaraderie.
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people have been through
Speaker 4: Ethan's been through that situation in some someplace in their career.
Speaker 4: You know, So when you see somebody who's been on
Speaker 4: peace squad the whole time, who's been told no at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, obviously you're being here on
Speaker 4: the team, but who who hasn't got the green light
Speaker 4: and like said, you can go start whenever they succeed.
Speaker 4: It's it's always nice.
Speaker 3: To watch that, you know how does like coach McDaniel
Speaker 3: loves to talk about himself in that way right in
Speaker 3: terms of not making about himself, but in terms of, like,
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be here because look at me.
Speaker 1: No one would look at me and.
Speaker 3: Say that guy's one of the best coaches on the planet.
Speaker 3: Do you think that his journey in that way kind
Speaker 3: of like reflects upon you guys, Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, for sure, And I like coaches the way coaches.
Speaker 4: He doesn't make it about himself, even though media tries
Speaker 4: to like make him bigger than it is, but like
Speaker 4: it's not about himself. He just tries to be as
Speaker 4: relatable to the players as he can. And he's been
Speaker 4: through adversity himself throughout his career, you know, ups and down,
Speaker 4: so it's kind of a testament to like what he's
Speaker 4: been through, and he he looks for players the same
Speaker 4: attributes that he has, he looks for in his players.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of a I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: So that was Rob Jones and Elijah Campbell there, and
Speaker 3: I want to finish the podcast with this one of
Speaker 3: my my rants, right, something I've been doing more of
Speaker 3: on the show here and having a good time with.
Speaker 3: And it's something I've been thinking about that stems really
Speaker 3: from Twitter, which isn't the best place to get your
Speaker 3: content ideas from, and admittedly it is probably the worst
Speaker 3: place to get a pulse of the fan base or
Speaker 3: anything that stems from actual reality. But I am so
Speaker 3: in trenched in it Twitter and social media that I
Speaker 3: think we can all get a little bit lost in it, right,
Speaker 3: But then in reality, I heard the question post to
Speaker 3: every single assistant coach who spoke on Thursday, even the
Speaker 3: defensive coaches were asked about these games and the legacy
Speaker 3: and the trajectory of one's career, namely the quarterback. How
Speaker 3: does this affect Lebron James's legacy? Not just getting to
Speaker 3: a tongue a by lower right, Because quarterbacks are judged
Speaker 3: by how they play in the biggest games. Some quarterbacks
Speaker 3: transcend that Dan Reno does, because we know why Peyton
Speaker 3: Manning did. But during his career, it was the conversation
Speaker 3: before he actually did the Dan thing in two thousand
Speaker 3: and six behind a really good Colts defense, which in
Speaker 3: the playoffs that year, the defense kind of carried that
Speaker 3: Colts team. And now you think of Peyton Manning differently. Right,
Speaker 3: context often get subbed out for narratives. And I'm old enough,
Speaker 3: I should say, I'm not old enough to remember the
Speaker 3: Marino discourse, but I'm certain that I know what it
Speaker 3: was because I have a brain, I suppose, but the
Speaker 3: old heads can confirm this for me here. But I'm
Speaker 3: certain it was loud for him too, right, I'm sure
Speaker 3: that was the conversation all throughout the early nineties towards
Speaker 3: the end of his career. But think about how we
Speaker 3: remember Dan Marino now today. I imagine it would have
Speaker 3: been the same for Peyton had Brady not been picked
Speaker 3: off by Marlon Jackson on that final drive in that
Speaker 3: two thousand and six AFC Championship game. And I'm also
Speaker 3: not trying to hear a single word about Manning's twenty
Speaker 3: fifteen ring because he had about as much to do
Speaker 3: with that as Monics did for those Celtics championship teams.
Speaker 3: And yes that is a semi pro reference Will Ferrell's
Speaker 3: best movie, Everybody, Love Everybody. So here's my point, and
Speaker 3: this is where I'm gonna lose you. But that's okay
Speaker 3: because I have the microphone and the opportunity to bring
Speaker 3: you back, in which I will do. These next three
Speaker 3: games won't define too his legacy. They won't even matter
Speaker 3: for two his legacy. The reason because he's young. He'll
Speaker 3: have so many more of these games. And he'll have
Speaker 3: many more because when he quarterbacks a football team, high school,
Speaker 3: college or otherwise National Football League, they're gonna win games.
Speaker 3: And winning games means you get to play in big games.
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert had a few big games the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, like the playoff game against the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 3: the greatest second greatest playoff comeback of all time, or
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one game at a four and thirteen
Speaker 3: Houston team that they lost because of a pick six
Speaker 3: he threw.
Speaker 1: I digress.
Speaker 3: Now, big game record does matter, but not really for
Speaker 3: a twenty five year old. A lot of quarterbacks didn't
Speaker 3: win right away, Hence the preamble talking about Peyton Manning
Speaker 3: and Dan Marino. Shoot, look at right now, I don't
Speaker 3: see people talking about Lamar Jackson's playoff record that frequently.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm not as innudated with Rayvens information and conversation
Speaker 3: as I am.
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 3: They will talk about it if he loses again this year, right,
Speaker 3: But then the next season in twenty twenty four, they'll
Speaker 3: go back to marveling over his skills, which they should.
Speaker 3: He's a great player, but he is one to three,
Speaker 3: including a loss as a fourteen and two dominant football
Speaker 3: team with his MVP season over a kind of also
Speaker 3: ran wild card Titans team. Tua is only going to
Speaker 3: get better with the more football that he sees. His
Speaker 3: superpowers are not ones that deteriorate quickly. Let's actually go
Speaker 3: ahead and get a reminder on that from coach Bevell,
Speaker 3: who talked about those superpowers at his Thursday press conference.
Speaker 9: Well, it's I mean, it's one of two of superpowers,
Speaker 9: you know, really, I mean there's every every player has,
Speaker 9: you know, skill sets that you know that really help them,
Speaker 9: that they're really good at. And then you know there's
Speaker 9: some that you know that they're not as good at.
Speaker 9: You know, you can just stack up all the quarterbacks
Speaker 9: speaking specifically, you know, some guys have disability. Some guys
Speaker 9: have that ability. You know, if you compared Michael Vick
Speaker 9: to a Tom Brady, both outstanding quarterbacks, but different styles
Speaker 9: of play. Two two, his secret powers are his anticipation,
Speaker 9: his timing, his vision, and his accuracy. And he does
Speaker 9: that as well as anybody that that I've been around,
Speaker 9: and not everybody can anticipate. As far as the quarterback
Speaker 9: play goes, you know, you have to have obviously a
Speaker 9: pre snap read then then a post snap you have
Speaker 9: to verify what's happening at the post snap. He knows
Speaker 9: where our guys are going to be and it goes
Speaker 9: part of that that trust that I'm talking about. Our
Speaker 9: guys have a certain landmark or spot that they need
Speaker 9: to be at and there you know he has got
Speaker 9: to be trusting and that hey, they're going to get
Speaker 9: there when they're supposed to be there. So I think
Speaker 9: you've seen that time and time again. You could pull
Speaker 9: up clips and and just say, Yep, that was one
Speaker 9: where he trusted it. Yep, that was one where he
Speaker 9: trusted it. And so there's there's part of trusting, but
Speaker 9: then the vision is what allows him to have some
Speaker 9: of those anticipation throws, Like I go back, one of
Speaker 9: the one of the really good ones.
Speaker 6: Was at h at the Chargers.
Speaker 2: You know, he hit one.
Speaker 9: Come there's like four guys. You're like, how did he
Speaker 9: throw that thing in the middle of that. It's because
Speaker 9: he trusted the guy was going to be there, but
Speaker 9: he anticipated that window being there that we talk about
Speaker 9: and just let it go.
Speaker 1: Sunday is a big game. One I think they'll win.
Speaker 3: But if they don't, there's not that's not a reason
Speaker 3: to demand change. Just remember that because there'll be many,
Speaker 3: many more and a PostScript. Finally, it's a home game,
Speaker 3: a home game for a big game. Finally, I was
Speaker 3: thinking about my confidence in this game because you heard
Speaker 3: the Wednesday podcast, you heard the Thursday guests, like, I
Speaker 3: am very set on Miami winning this football game, even
Speaker 3: though I realized there was a possibility they do not
Speaker 3: win the game. And maybe I should be more impacted
Speaker 3: by history than I allow myself to be, because I
Speaker 3: always tell Dolphins fans, I don't care what happened in
Speaker 3: nineteen seventy four doesn't impact twenty twenty three Dolphins. And
Speaker 3: you're conditioned to believe the Dolphins will blow it in
Speaker 3: the big games, and they've proven you to be right
Speaker 3: in that regard, even though it doesn't translate. It's like
Speaker 3: being superstitious, right. Superstition doesn't actually do anything. Maybe it
Speaker 3: puts you at ease in a pressure field moment, but
Speaker 3: it doesn't actually do anything right, because every freaking time
Speaker 3: we have one of these games, we get let down.
Speaker 3: It goes back to last year at San Francisco eight
Speaker 3: and three, seventy five yard touchdown pass to start. At
Speaker 3: the game at trent Sherfield, You're thinking, this is the zenith,
Speaker 3: We've made it, we've arrived. Didn't work out that way.
Speaker 3: Then you go to the Chargers the next week, a
Speaker 3: chance to kind of undo that loss, and you kind
Speaker 3: of get smacked in the face once again. And then
Speaker 3: it goes back at twenty twenty one at Tennessee. Steinker
Speaker 3: of a game at twenty twenty in Buffalo, probably the
Speaker 3: worst game you've seen for the Dolphins team this decade,
Speaker 3: New England in twenty eighteen at three and oh against
Speaker 3: a one to two Patriots team shellax thirty eight to seven.
Speaker 3: We always lose these games, and they're always on the road. Somehow.
Speaker 3: It's time to change that. But if we don't, there's
Speaker 3: always more. It's a big game, but it's not the
Speaker 3: last big game I've been Travis Wingfield. That's my time
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