WEBVTT - Ep11 Dennis McCarthy 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:09.480 Okay, Fast and Furious fans, welcome back to another podcast. 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:13.520 My name's Amelia Hartford and I'm so kaying the reason 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.400 why I say Fast and Furious. Our guest today built 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:20.880 all the cars starting with Fast three, one of those 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.200 cars being Hans Are seven. 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:25.440 Yes, he built so many iconic. 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:27.160 Cars that we shouldn't try to name them all. 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:29.639 It's great to see him take his passion for cars 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.200 and convert it over to movies. 0:00:31.440 --> 0:00:35.199 Yeah. We have cool conversations about cars dropping out of 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.639 planes on Fast and Furious seven, and we. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.840 Also talk about the future of practical cars and CG 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:41.839 cars and movies. 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:45.159 Yeah. Yeah, we joke a little bit about the street 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:46.840 takeovers becoming a. 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:49.960 Thing which we would say this gentleman we're going to 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:56.000 speak to is actually responsible for unintentionally. Yeah, and without 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:56.920 further ado. 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:00.840 Dennis McCarthy. Everybody. 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.080 I think people know the cars in the film, but 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:09.160 nobody knows you, Dennis. Like I even the people that 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.440 work on the movie. It's like they don't know, like 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.360 where you're from, like where you started, Like you know, 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:16.480 I want to share that story, Like I want to 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:19.040 share Dennis's story, Like how'd you get into cars? Where'd 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.640 you grow up, like what was the history prior to 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:22.800 you coming to fest? 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:24.400 And fears like why cars? 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:26.679 Yeah, I'm like that guy behind the scenes and like 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:28.120 no one ever sees me, you know, I just you know, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.480 cars show up and you know, and that's it. But 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:33.319 I've always been in the cars made since a very 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:35.120 very early age as long, honestly, as long as I 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:35.600 can remember. 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:37.000 I mean, I you know, my. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.319 First memories, first memory of a car as being you know, 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:41.200 somewhere around two maybe three years old, my dad had 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:44.839 a sixty nine Camaro for speed car with the Hurst 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:46.720 white shift nob and you know, I would reach over 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:48.320 there and shift gears, you know. 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:48.880 From the passers. 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.640 City's a little tiny kid, so I think it was 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.480 just something that was always where it was. And with wheels, motorcycles, bicycles, skateboards, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.720 you know, everything in my life was kind of focused 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.320 on that. I think I had a bicycle repair shop 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.760 in the third grade with my own business cards. 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:03.880 I'd pass out at school. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:06.120 You know, So I was just kind of always working 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.000 on something, fixing something, or playing with something or driving something. 0:02:09.080 --> 0:02:10.800 So you know, long story short. 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:13.960 In high school, I was a bad example in today's society, 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.840 but I did street racing was like my number one hobby, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:18.919 you know, Like my my buddies played football, played baseball. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.840 I went street racing. So that's what I did, you know, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.320 And I knew all the hot spots. I knew all 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.760 the times to be there, the days to be there, 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.880 and you know, eventually, of course got in trouble here 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:30.000 and there for that reason, but nonetheless it was. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:31.799 In the long run, I guess it was worth it. 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.840 Where'd you grow up? 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:34.160 Burbank? Burbank? Wow? 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:36.000 Yeah, So you know we used to race out by 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.399 u you know, Peoria Street, Roxford Street. You know, we'd 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.280 go way up Wheatland. There was a long stretch there 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:44.119 we could. You know, there was a lot of great 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.040 places actually right down. It's funny when I started the movie, 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:48.720 it reminded me because one of the places we would 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.959 race was right off of Fletcher. I remember the first 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.120 time going down and saying, oh man, that's my street, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.760 right you know, they're all the burnout mark Shore right there. 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:56.079 Everything. 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.400 You know, it's like one of my favorite spots. But 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.519 h got a job at a dinosh job. I worked 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:02.200 at the Glen Dail's Speed Center for it. So that's 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:05.000 like if you ever noticed in Fast nine, the credit 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.519 car says Glendale Speed Center on the hood. I put 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:08.919 that there because that's where I worked when I was 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.359 in high school. So you know, I always try to 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:13.200 slip a few things in and it's and it's funny. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.880 It's like we did some mock up with the car. Actually, 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.200 you know, your friend Jose at Extreme Wraps and I 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.120 do this hood and then you know, I'm asked, well, 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.560 do we have clearance? I go, yeah, and I called 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.480 the owners still around, you know, I got a hold 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.920 of them and we got kind of cleared. But nobody 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:30.800 asked me where it came from. And I think what 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.680 happens in these situations is I think that probably the 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.520 director maybe assumed the production designer came up with their vice. 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:37.400 Versa or producer. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:39.920 They disassumed that it came from somewhere that nobody ever 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.080 bothers to ask me, what's the Glendail Speed Center? 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:42.600 You know what I mean. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.920 But it's, uh, you know, there's so much going on 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:47.160 when you're you know, when you're you know, doing fifty 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:50.440 some cars, it just all kind of blends together. But anyways, Uh, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.640 I started working there and then you know, shortly thereafter, 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:55.360 you know, I went to a trade school. I went 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:59.120 to Valley College briefly for engineering and just ended up 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.920 on my own shop by thinking around maybe twenty twenty one. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:02.840 I have my own. 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:05.320 Business, so been doing that ever since. And you know, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.280 so it's really you know, people always ask, wow, this 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:09.640 must be great. You know, what's it like compared to 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.080 with this, And it's really the same thing as what 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.280 I did. I mean, I had a shop with you know, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:14.120 maybe six guys, what would build a bunch of cars. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:15.680 I do the same thing now, just on a much 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:16.320 bigger scale. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:16.680 That's all. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.400 It's just a tighter deadline, right. 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:20.800 The deadlines are tight. Yeah, you know, like you know, 0:04:20.800 --> 0:04:22.479 you can say, yea, I'm gonna bild you a custom car, 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.520 you know, frame up, you know everything else. You know, 0:04:25.560 --> 0:04:27.080 you can say, yeah, give me about a year to 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.039 do it. You know, we'll have to build you know, 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:30.840 sixty cars like that in the span of three and 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.400 a half months. So you know, it's a different it's 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:36.640 a different speed, we'll say, for sure, grabbing another gear 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.040 there for sure, but you know higher accordingly, get the 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:40.520 right guys. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:41.360 It always gets done. 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:44.440 We're at number ten, fast and fear as ten and 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:47.080 you started the same time you did, Yeah, Fast and 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:49.200 Fear As three. So could you give us thenus a 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:53.200 little history of how you got into the whole Fast 0:04:53.200 --> 0:04:54.200 and Fear As franchise. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:58.080 Yeah, sure, I mean it's uh, it's going way back. 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.200 But I was just you know, custom car builder had 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.760 a business in Burbank for forever, like literally since I 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.200 was twenty years old, and somehow, through a front of 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.039 a friend, I ended up working on. His name was 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:12.480 Jim Brubaker at the time, he was the head of 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.039 the studio. Yeah, so he got referred to me to 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.320 work on his cars through a friend of his son. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:21.400 So anyways, it really just started off working on I 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:22.919 think he had he had seventy one L Camino. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.160 He had a couple of cool cars, you know. 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:28.680 So one thing led to another and he wanted me 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.840 to build a modify a vehicle for a scene in 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:36.000 a movie called Dragonfly. Okay, it was a movie, Uh 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:38.599 Kevin Costner and his wife dies going off a cliff 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.599 in a bus. So they had purchased this old army vehicle. 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.440 Probably the worst possible choice, you know. I mean, there 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:46.400 could have been a lot of things that you could 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.760 as bought and would have worked. But anyways, they bought 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:52.480 this old army vehicle that had no suspension, manual transmission, 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.719 no power. I mean, it was just very not user 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.160 friendly at all. So they wanted a V eight. They 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.720 wanted air ride, suspension and automatic, you know, just all 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:02.200 this different stuff so we could go down the hill 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:03.840 smoothly with a camera mount. It was a point of 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:05.239 view shot as all it was. So they had basically 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:06.640 the front of the bus then goes off. 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:07.159 It's cliff. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:08.960 So I said, yeah, no prom at all, you know, 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.839 So got that done for him, and then he called 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.920 me again for Bruce Almighty needed some help with some cars. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:19.440 They had a Saline S seven. Long story on that one. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:20.200 I won't go into a bit. 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.960 It was I want to hear the story, please, That's 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:23.359 why you're here to tell his stories. 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:25.680 All right, Well this is a funny story. 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.040 Yeah, I mean it's really not funny, but I guess 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:29.440 it was funny from being on the outside of it. 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.440 So he asked me to come to set to check 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.039 out this Saleine S seven and it had been postponed, 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.960 postpone because the car wasn't ready. This was literally right 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.479 when that car was debut. It was just you know 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:40.680 there was one in existence, which was owned by Steve Salan. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.560 That was the only car that existed. So they kept moving, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.480 the shop moving, the shot waited on this car. So 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.640 I'm there that day. He wants me to wait and 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:50.560 stand by and just check this car out, make sure 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:52.000 everything's cool. He wants me to be the guy that 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.440 places it. You know, shows Jim Garrey had to get 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:57.320 in out of it, all that good stuff. So like, okay, yeah, great, 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.880 it sounds like fine. So I head out there and 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.320 trailer roll up and the car had to be still right. 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:02.680 Don't if you saw the movie, but there's a scene 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:07.040 where the car, his silver Z morphs into the same lane. 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.080 So the color was a critical part of it. And 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.360 they'd already shot the Z. So trailer shows up, but 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.240 it's got a yellow one and a sober one. That's strange. 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:17.800 Wonder what they're bringing? A yell, I mean, what good 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.560 does a yellow car do us? So anyways, cars getting loaded, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:25.000 and the rep says, hey, I apologize, but the silver 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.040 car is not done. It's it's cosmetically cool. It's a 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.640 good static car, but it doesn't run. And we just 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.320 figured you guys could just you know, either do a 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.360 static shot or you just do a change the car 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:39.280 to yellow. I'm going, well, that's not that's not my call. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:44.240 So anyways, everyone comes over and that's not gonna work. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:45.880 It's a driving shot. The car has to be silber. 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.320 They're talking about Tobar's is that. Nothing's going to work. So, uh, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.760 you know, I'm asked, hey, can you fix the car? 0:07:52.240 --> 0:07:54.000 I said, I look inside the car. You know, there's 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.680 no wiring, harness, there's no fuels. It's been haws a 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.600 motor sitting it. But that's about it. I go, not today, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.960 you know, that's not gonna happen. So this is right 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:04.600 about the time that there was something called peel coat 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.200 paint that was around. It just kind of started, you know, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:11.520 being used in the studio business. Basically, yeah, exactly, but 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:13.760 it's but not as good. It's like it's almost like 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:17.160 a rubberized it feels like a Latex glove on the car. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:20.160 And then you spray paint basically the latext you know 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:22.520 how it works, and you have to spray it on 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.119 with a special gun kind of like a gun similar 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.640 to like a linex or a rhino lining gun. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:26.880 You know. 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.200 So we send guys in all these different directions to 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.240 get the gun, to get the paint, to get the 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.679 you know, the peel coat product, and we reconvened in 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.360 a body shop. A friend of mine jacked out a 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.600 body we I called, I got a nine to one one. 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.720 I have to have this car back on setamorrow five am, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:45.160 you know, get this down overnight. 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:46.679 And he goes, yeah, yeah, no problem. This is, you know, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:47.840 probably three in the afternoon. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.640 By this point, by the time we get all the materials, 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:53.280 it's probably five and we start trying to spray this 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.920 car and it was freezing cold, right, spraying the stuff, 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.000 spraying stuff, but the stuff is too cold and it 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.800 just keeps orange, peeling really bad, and then we have 0:08:59.880 --> 0:09:01.800 to clean it all off, start over again. 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:02.960 We go through this process. 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:04.959 By the time I get to uh god, it was 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.520 probably ten pm, eleven pm at night, and I'm just going, man, 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.000 it's not gonna work. You know, we can't. It's just 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.720 it's about twenty five degrees too cold. So I call up, 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.240 call up, you go, hey, man, I got a little problem. 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:19.960 I said, It's just it's not gonna work. I said, 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:22.080 the only way I can, you know, have this car 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.040 for you tomorrow morning. At five am, and Silver is 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.000 if I just paint the car. I don't want to 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.240 use profanity on your show. But he goes, yeah, I 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:30.680 paint the car. I go, okay, all right, great man. 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:32.560 So next thing, you know, man, I got a crew 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:34.920 guy sand in this you know, brand new sanely S 0:09:34.920 --> 0:09:38.000 seven and we painted at silver and we were up 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.640 on set the next morning five am. I'm touching up 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.240 the little little flaws with a sharpie. You know, I'm 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.160 just like, I'm literally right there as they all come out. 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:46.280 I been silver sharpie. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:48.640 I was using a black sharpie because I didn't have 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.640 a silver sharp but the black was better than yellow. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.040 So it was kind of like in the door seams 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.840 and everything, I'm just using a black sharpie and I'm 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:56.160 trying to hide any kind of any that's of yellow. 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:57.880 And we got it done. 0:09:58.040 --> 0:09:59.960 There's a lot of discussion after that about that whole 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:04.480 process and potential legal action there, but anyways, we got 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:05.960 the car pain and we had it on set. It 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.400 looked great, and uh, you know, everything went well from 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:08.679 that one. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.559 So not only paint but also prep a car within 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:16.000 that timeframe. I hope people listening can understand how unreal 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:16.600 that is. 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:18.120 Yeah, it was. I mean we did the car. 0:10:18.160 --> 0:10:19.720 By that point, it was probably eleven at night and 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.280 we had it, you know, probably gave us about four 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:22.320 and a half hours. 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.080 To was it was the paint dry when you showed 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:24.920 up on Satacky. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.640 We brought it back in an enclosed trailer so get 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:29.400 the bugs off of it. 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.640 But now it all worked out. But it was a 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:35.160 that was kind of my start in the business I got. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.680 I got some sidetracked there. So back to the original question, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.600 that's how I got kind of hooked up with Universal 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.480 and then uh, you know, one thing led to another, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:47.880 and in regards to Fast and Furious, I get a 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.640 call once again, same same same man, Jim brup Hair 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:51.920 calls me after Zombe because, hey, what do you know 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.480 about this sport and drifting? You know, in my head, 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.120 I'm thinking when I was in high school, man, I 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.960 you know, slide cars right into a curb, you know. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.319 So anyways, I said. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.040 Yeah, that sounds yeah, I know, I know everything about it, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.800 like you know, the usual answer, you know. So he goes, great, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.440 can you do can you do a little research on 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:07.920 the topic for me? He doesn't tell me what it's 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.280 about or what it's for I mean, in retrospect, it 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:12.800 feels like I turned it like an eighth grade report 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.160 on the sport of drifting. You know. I did a 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:17.439 notebook with a picture of a card drifting and just 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:19.000 kind of went through the history of the tracks, the 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.800 key players and everything else, and uh, very rudimentary, but 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:24.120 just you know, brought to him and kind of sat 0:11:24.160 --> 0:11:25.480 down them and just kind of went through a page 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:28.640 by page and showed them where it's at, the different 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.600 organizations that run and everything else. He sayes, great, Great, 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.960 I totally appreciate this. I said, okay, all right, thank you, 0:11:34.000 --> 0:11:35.640 I can no problem. You know, left thought that was 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:37.320 that was the end of that. He calls you back 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:38.640 a few days, Lady, just had like you to come 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.440 up and talk to a few people. I said, yeah, no, 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.319 no problem. I head up to the Universal. We'll go 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:45.199 up to the eighth flour conference room and you know, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.240 there's a whole bunch of people there. I'm you know, 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.840 horribly underdressed. You know, I'm just I was not not 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:51.959 expecting this. And they've actually made a copy of that 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:53.800 book and they've spread it around the whole table to 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.400 everybody there, and I'm just like wow, I woke. A 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:57.720 little heads up would have been nice, you know, like 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:59.640 a little bit of a hey, this is what we're 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:00.760 going to do. But just you know, I come and 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:03.839 blind and say, you know, same conversation, Can you explain 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:04.760 the sport of Christian to us? 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:05.280 Yeah? 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.640 I did a little pitch on it, and uh. At 0:12:07.640 --> 0:12:09.000 the end of that meeting, they say, well, hey, we'd 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.360 like you to go to Japan and do some research 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:14.679 for us. I'm like, great, you know, but it happened 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.960 that quick. It was literally, you know, walked out of 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.800 that room, hooked up with travel, looked a flight. 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:22.679 And you know, I think within a few days I was, 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.440 you know, I was in Tokyo. So that's how it started. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.720 That's how I got hooked up with the franchise, and 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.720 that's you know, that was my first experience with you know, 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.480 fun with a whole bunch of cars. 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.439 Amelia and I were talking about the street takeover donut scene. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.040 Do you understand that, Dennis, I do. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:44.600 Not understand it. All I've ever seen and it goes back. 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:46.559 I mean, this goes back to when I was a kid, 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.040 probably the sixth grade. You know, my my buddy's dad 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.440 was a big stock cartan. We'd go out to Sagas 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:54.520 and I remember, you know, when getting the seats, you' 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.120 always said, oh yeah, you never never sit on the 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:58.160 outside of the turn, you know, like we'd always you know, 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.240 you know, PLoP down in front of the straight away 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:00.560 or somebody. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.240 Oh yeah, you know, the cars can climb the fence. 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.000 I've seen it, you know, all this stuff, so at 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.640 a very early age, you know, don't stand on the 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:06.760 outside of a sliding car. 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:09.440 And I watched these street takeovers. The cars are. 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.760 Doing donuts and the streets are packed five or six deep. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:13.320 I mean, if something does go wrong, you can't get 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:13.679 out of the way. 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.559 It's just but it does, and it does. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.160 Oh yeah, I just excited over getting hits. 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:19.719 I watch it. 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.160 I just don't understand what has happened to common sense, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:23.520 you know. I mean that's something like when we were 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.800 like even my buddies, like, we would never do that, 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.000 you know. I mean, yeah, we might go into an 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:28.400 air so that should do a bunch of donuts, but 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:30.560 it's going to be, you know, somewhere where there's nobody 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.560 else around. And that was great, and we drive away 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:34.080 really quick to it. Don't get a ticket, you know, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:36.360 but to do with a huge crowd. It's I don't know, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.720 it's beyond me. No one's you know what. I just 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:39.640 I just figured it out. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:40.320 Huh. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.920 I know where it came from. It came from I 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:44.640 might be off one movie, but it came from Fastened 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:47.319 Furious Sport. We did that sequence down at downtown LA. 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.760 We had a BMW doing donuts. We had a huge 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:50.280 party scene. 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:55.800 It was down I want to say, take that back movie, 0:13:56.240 --> 0:14:00.400 But it is so funny though, I just we have 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:00.839 the FBI. 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:03.040 I know, it's just so funny. When you ask that question, 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.199 where did it come from? I thought about I know, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:05.640 I've seen this one before and it just popped in 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.240 my head. That's where I saw it. But we rigged 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.480 at BMW. Now what we did was we actually had 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:12.679 a BMW that was rigged like a like a track 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.839 on a spinning thing, so it couldn't get away. It 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.120 couldn't go anywhere, but you know it could had the 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.040 right look on screen. 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.960 On the set of Grand Tarrismo, I saw my first 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.600 pod car, and for the listeners who don't know what 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:42.280 a podcar is, everything that controls the car is now 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.520 on the roof and the actor gets to sit in 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:47.080 the driver's seat where you can't see anything because the 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.760 cameras are blocking your view, and the stunt driver drives 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.360 and you get to pretend like you're driving. 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.200 Yeah, because you can always tell when you're watching a 0:14:54.240 --> 0:14:55.880 TV show of film or whatever if they're on a 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:58.880 process trailer just has that no suspension. Look, the car 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.640 sits too high. It's just it's just not the same. 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.440 But with the pod, it's really the car's doing what 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.400 it should be doing, but a stuntman is on the 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:08.160 roof driving it. So just imagine if you had a 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.880 roof rack with a lawn chair and a steering wheel. 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:11.960 That's about what it is. He's sitting up on the roof. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.000 He has gas pedal, he has Oh, this was another 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:17.520 first too on Grand Turisma was a pod with a 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.080 manual transmission. Now, the only way we could do it 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.080 was because it was electronic shifted, so we didn't actually 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.520 have to have shift linkage because it was on the 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.400 steering wheel. So he basically just took the GT three 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.760 steering wheel, put that up on on the top, rewired 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.080 everything and put a coluct pedal up there, which was hydraulic. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:34.040 So but it was pretty cool. Because that's something that 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.840 you usually don't get with the pod. But anyways, bottom 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.280 line is it just puts the actor in the car 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.320 for reel at real speeds and it just sells. It 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:46.160 just makes it makes the movie that much better. When 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.040 you can do that, it's a pretty cool way to 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:49.760 film an action car movie, for sure. I mean it's 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:50.280 really the best. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:51.880 What's the fastest you've been in a quarter mile? 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.840 M Let's see. I don't know. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.960 I've driven a lot of fast cars, but I can't say, okay, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.440 this is a quarter mile. I'm gonna hammer this car 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:01.360 and go, oh you know what, Okay, I do have 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.200 I do have something to back this up. So on 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.320 Tokyo Drift, we built these Monty Carlos right and uh 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.680 one of them had a five seventy two was a 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.320 Richmond four speed, had a fourty six gear in it. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.960 We went out to uh Cameral Airport and we literally 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.560 marked off a quarter mile with Edmunds online. Then we 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.520 ran all the cars. I got in that car to 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:23.960 make a pass and something broke. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:24.320 I forget it. 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:25.960 I think the shift link and something something happened. I 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.400 couldn't make a pass, so we came back. I went 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:30.560 through everything just to the valves, got anything ready to go. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:32.920 In the meantime, we ran the other car, which was 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.440 a five hundred and nine cubic chain car, which coincidentally, 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.440 I still own that car. I have that car in 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.160 my shop right now. But in that car, i'd have 0:16:40.160 --> 0:16:41.440 to go back and watch. I think you can still 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:42.720 pull it up. But I think it ran an eleven 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:44.880 something in the quarter mile. And they had, you know, 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:50.040 all the proper equipment and everything else. And anyways, long 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.360 story short, I get back in the car with a 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.120 big motor and it's got slicks, I've got the air perer. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.040 I'm really I want to get a ten second time 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.600 out of this car. And uh, you know, they got 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:05.960 the light green go, and for whatever reason, the first 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.760 you know light didn't trigger the car. 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.480 So I never got a quarter mile time. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.639 But I went through the lights in one hundred and 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.440 thirty miles an hour, which is pretty damn fast. I mean, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.320 in a nineteen seventy Monet card, to go through the 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.439 lights at one hundred and thirty miles an hour, it 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:23.080 had to be I'm going to in my mind, I 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:26.120 believe it had to be a ten second pass. But 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.840 you know, it never got officially recorded, so that. 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:29.680 Was very impressed about. 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.879 And the other thing that was horrible about that day is, 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:35.440 you know, that's not a real incredibly high Revy motor, 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.720 and there was no and I knew there was a 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:39.199 light at the quarter in the quarter mile, but there 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:41.280 was no visual reference, like we should have put a 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.400 traffic car. So I didn't want to shut up early, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:47.919 so I was going to hold it in extra long. Well, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.200 I kept going forth, gear, ran out of ran out 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.679 of gear, and I ended up scattering that motor. I 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.959 mean scattered it to the point where you know, connecting 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:56.040 rods came through the side. 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:57.200 Of the block, windowed the block. 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:00.200 Yeah, oil on the airstrip, and I think that was 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:01.639 the last time we were ever allowed to do that 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:04.280 again because of that, because it dumped you know, seven 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.880 quarts of oil right onto the airstrip. But anyways, all 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:09.440 that lawn the motor up, and I still want to 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:12.879 get a recorded quarter mile, So I'm still very depressed 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:13.280 about that. 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.680 It's okay, there you go. 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.440 I'll tell you guys a sad story of the car 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.480 that I wanted more than any new car. I can 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.600 probably say my whole life was the new CTFI V Corvette. 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.480 I'm sorry, black Wing, black Wing Cadillact. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.440 I got one hundred and twentieth anniversary one. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:31.280 You're gonna love it. 0:18:31.359 --> 0:18:32.600 I'm so excited for it. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:34.760 So when the black Wing, I started reading about it 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.159 as I going, oh my god, this is a car. 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.520 I can get a Cadillact with four doors on a clutch. 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.639 I said, I must have this. So and we were working, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.639 we were on a show, we were doing something and 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:43.840 I missed the order day. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:45.119 I just missed it. 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.919 And I was devastated because they were they all they 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:49.000 sold out like instantly. 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:51.240 Luckily, I have a couple of friends. 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:54.320 Her named Sandy from General Motors, but she was huge 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.280 help in making some phone calls to Michigan. She got me, 0:18:57.840 --> 0:18:59.560 she got me the opportunity to order one. So I 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.280 ordered you black, the carbon seat, everything exactly what I wanted. 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.400 And uh, it's the coolest car ever. I mean, it's 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.639 absolutely Yeah. It's in my garage. But this is a 0:19:07.680 --> 0:19:09.320 sad part that I have. I've had it for I 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.879 think a year and it has a thousand miles on it. 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:13.639 Like I don't drive it. You know, it's in my 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:15.840 garage at my house with the car cover on it, 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.080 and it's like we're going out here. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:18.520 No, I can't ballet park this car. 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.520 Really burn the clutch out. 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:22.359 Screw it up. I'm not I'm not doing that. I 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:23.360 don't leave it anywhere. 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.760 Yeah, I feel that way about the Corvettes. But I 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.639 like when I tell you I'm so excited for this 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.359 black Wing, I like, I literally just can't wait to 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:32.720 go get it. It's like, what the last combustion manual 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:33.399 transmission car. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.080 That is the coolest car ever. Like I said, that's 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:36.960 so cool. It's the one that I'm. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:38.520 Going to daily drive. That's going to be like my 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.520 I joke that I'm buying the car from my dog. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:42.679 I'm not that, you know, it's not really the case, 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:44.480 but like I don't even know if she's ever gonna 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:46.240 sit in it. Now they say it, but I was. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.280 That was my intent. It was gonna be my daily driver. 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:49.960 But I'm gonna try to start putting some more miles 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:50.560 on it, for sure. 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.480 Congratulation. That's that's fine that we own the same car. 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:56.560 At first we work on the same movie and then 0:19:56.600 --> 0:19:57.639 we own the same car. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:58.800 Pretty cool. 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:00.680 Then, as you know, I have to working in the 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:05.240 Hollywood and with all these cars, what is your favorite 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.560 like car movie like that you've worked on or that 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.840 you just go, okay, this is this sets the bar 0:20:11.080 --> 0:20:13.239 for a film that has cars in it. 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.480 Yeah, that is a great question, you know, and I 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:19.040 mean I lean back to like the older stuff, you know, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:22.119 like seventy stuff. I mean, as a young kid, my 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.119 all time favorite movie was The Gunball Rally. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:25.399 One of my favorite. 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.560 Scenes in that movie is it's a four to twenty 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.280 seven Cobra and a Ferrari Daytona racing through the La 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.960 River and it's just awesome. And there's there's backstories so 0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:37.359 that too. There was a body shop in in Bertman 0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:39.679 called Auto FM, which is coincidental where my dad took 0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:41.600 all his cars. But he was one of the guys 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.040 that was responsible for fixing the Cobra overnight because they 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.760 spun the car out and went into the channel in 0:20:46.800 --> 0:20:49.320 the center and you know, this is the old days 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.200 of film, and they had one Ferrari, they had one Cobra, 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.000 so when they wrecked it, they had to bring the 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:54.639 car back overnight, bring it back and it was it 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:54.880 was a. 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:56.359 Real one too, a woman and body car. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.560 But it was a real Cobra. For twice seven. 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:02.000 Yeah, which back in nineteen seventy eight or seventy six whatever, 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:03.560 it was meant next to nothing. You know, it was 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:04.840 a four thousand dollars car back then. 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.200 But today there worth so much of course. 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.200 Yeah, so anyways, but if you ever get a chance, 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.040 check that movie out, you know, and really, I mean 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:13.879 what I like in the movie is realism. I'm not 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.280 a huge fan of massive CG. You know, I really 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:18.960 like it. You know, to me, if you're watching a 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.359 movie and you you can believe that the stunt is 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:24.080 really happening as you're watching it, I think it just 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:25.760 adds to the project. And I think that's one great 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:27.720 thing about the Fast and Furious franchises. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:28.320 We try to do that now. 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.720 Obviously over the years, the cg's gotten a little bigger, 0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:33.840 but we still try to keep the car stunts, you know, 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:35.440 being a real car stunt. 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:37.919 Do you watch car movies the same too? I mean 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.800 you're probably working on all of them, but do you 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.760 watch them the same today? Are you constantly looking at Oh, 0:21:43.800 --> 0:21:46.359 I see how they did that? That's an interesting element. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:49.040 I nitpick things that you know, like, hey, the wheels 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:51.320 are different on that car. You know, it's just little 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:53.639 things like that that I'm because I you know, I 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.840 would always criticize myself, you know, and it happens if 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.679 we screw something up, if a car looks a little bit, 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:00.000 you know, like I said, we're building to set it 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.359 ten cars, they all need to look identical, and if 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.080 something's off, I'll definitely catch it when I'm watching it. 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.240 But I unfortunately, I can't get that out of my mind. 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.119 So every time I watch a liver of the car chase, 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:10.240 I'm looking for a flaw. I'm looking for a double 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:12.600 car that has a different seat or a different interior, things. 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.000 That a lot of people probably wouldn't notice just watching it, 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:17.639 but you probably those tune die for it. 0:22:17.760 --> 0:22:18.520 Right, yeah exactly. 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.320 I mean everything else is probably blur outside of that, 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:21.280 but the cars I'm focused on. 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:24.159 It was really cool on the last film where you know, 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.040 the director was leaning on you to like help the 0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.239 dialogue to make it, you know, like legit because in 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.399 the past, I mean, the fans are complaining, They're like, yo, man, 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:38.240 you guys are in space. Well bro right, there's like 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.360 it's seventy thirty. It's it's like seventy percent. You know, 0:22:41.760 --> 0:22:45.600 Like when I'm outside there. You know, the fans will 0:22:45.640 --> 0:22:48.320 be like, I'm gonna watch the movie anyway, but hey man, 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.400 it'd be nice if, like, you know, you could go 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:52.560 back to the cars. And then thirty percent is like, 0:22:53.800 --> 0:22:56.880 fuck you guys, man, you guys this bullshit. You guys 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.560 are in space and what the fuck is that? 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.680 Like, it's not a car movie and you are right, 0:23:00.800 --> 0:23:02.439 so right right, yeah, no, I'm with you. 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:06.000 I mean, like I said, I I would love to see, 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.760 you know, like a flashback, like an old school flashback 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:12.040 and that maybe the maybe the history of uh, you know, 0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:14.800 Toretto Seniors street racing days or something just kind of 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:17.480 ran that back. I mean, it's really it's hard to 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:19.640 do it today because it's just not really done today. 0:23:19.640 --> 0:23:21.000 If it is, you know, it's like you said, it's 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:23.720 more of the street takeover. I don't know of any 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.360 you know, or I mean, I know it's out there, 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:26.720 but I guess I'm just out of the loop on it. 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.000 But uh, but I think it'd be great to have 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:30.720 like a flashback or something that goes back to the 0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:34.280 to the real roots of you know, maybe you know, 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:37.359 the unknown where the franchise came from or something like that. 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:39.080 You know unknow where the Touretto name came from, you 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:41.800 know where where that'll stem from. Would be pretty awesome. 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.240 But uh yeah, I like, you know, street races that 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.480 are you know, as real as they can possibly be, 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:49.000 you know, I think would be great. 0:23:49.160 --> 0:23:52.240 A lot of people ask what happens through the cars. 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:53.720 From I was just thinking that. 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:57.800 The cars usually, as you know, they get destroyed during filming. 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.119 You know, for instance, let's take a domb charge in 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:01.840 a Fast and Furious movie. You know, if we get 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.760 two that make it through, you know whatever, we've built ten, twelve, 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:08.000 fourteen of them, we're doing pretty good. And when I 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.600 stay destroyed, I mean really destroyed. I mean you know 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.120 it's on some effects rig, it's cut up, there's things 0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:15.480 well to do it everywhere, So it's uh, you know, 0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.679 we're definitely hard hard on vehicles. The ones that do remain, 0:24:18.760 --> 0:24:22.600 you know, we'll always go into Universal's asset warehouse and 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:25.720 then they'll be used for tours, for special events, they'll 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:28.200 be on display at the theme park. Eventually some of 0:24:28.240 --> 0:24:30.280 them do get sold. They're typically to sold to you know, 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:34.080 someone that has a museum or as a collector, you know, 0:24:34.119 --> 0:24:35.639 so not a lot of the cars really survive and 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:36.320 I actually get out there. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:37.040 I mean, you see them. 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.919 And the other thing too. This is something else that 0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.159 always cracks me up. There's a lot of fakes that 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:45.360 are portrayed as real cars, so that I see all 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:47.200 the time. You know, cars like I know how many 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:50.600 cars were made and how many cars survived. And there 0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:54.200 are several cars out there that I know none survived, 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.359 or if there's one, I know that it's part of 0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.479 the universal. But yet here's one for sale, you know, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.800 for a million dollars or something. So yeah, so you 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:03.560 have to be careful of that one. You know, a 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.880 lot of a lot of counterfeits out there. 0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:07.800 Yeah, like anything, I'm sure. 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:09.159 Yeah, who would have guessed? 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:09.640 I guess. 0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:11.400 I guess you're doing good. Yeah, they're kind of fitting 0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:13.440 your cars he built, that's I guess. I said something. 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.720 But you're right by Jay Leno's garage right where else 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:17.480 You're very close. 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.119 Yeah. We see him every day, you know. I mean, 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:20.199 he's one of the coolest guys ever. 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:23.120 He's always riding a motorcycle, driving a steam car, driving something, 0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:24.800 you know, And like I said, he drives right by 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.920 our shop. Sometimes you'll see him three different times in 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:29.360 the day driving a different vehicle. But one time I'm 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.240 coming down San Fernando. I'm making a left onto my 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:34.200 street and I see him pushing a motorcycle like an. 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:34.920 Old the Indian or hardy. 0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:36.119 I don't know any what it is, but he's pushing 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.080 his motorcycle. Then he's a ways off. I mean, he's 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:42.399 probably a good mile from his shop or more so. 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:43.760 I pulled over to go, Jay, what are you doing? 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:43.879 Man? 0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:44.639 It broke down? 0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.760 I go, well, do let me let me call State Bed. 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:48.280 I'll get someone down here. We'll load your bike. We'll 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:48.639 get me O. 0:25:48.640 --> 0:25:50.679 No, no, no, no no. This is a this is my 0:25:50.720 --> 0:25:51.520 exercise planning. 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:53.040 I ride the bike. When it breaks down, I push 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:55.520 it back and he was like, take off, go I'm good. 0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:58.040 He's all by himself, just pushing a motorcycle, you know, 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.600 through the streets of Sime Valley and a true car 0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:01.600 lever motorcycle lever. 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.600 I mean it's yeah, what are you working on next? 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:05.080 Anything you can talk about? 0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:08.919 Yeah, we're working on let's see right now, I'm working 0:26:09.000 --> 0:26:10.600 on the Joker too. 0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:12.480 We're working on a joker too. 0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:13.200 Cool? 0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:14.399 Yeah, what are you building for? 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.480 Are you building the moment? 0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:21.200 His car or no, well, still in production there, so yeah, 0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:22.640 I can't reveal too much about it, but I will 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.479 say there is a couple of cool cars. It's well, 0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.240 as you know, this isn't a secret, but those cars 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.680 always have kind of like a late eighties early nineties 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:30.760 feel to them. 0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:32.880 You know, it's they're never really like a peerod movie. 0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:35.560 They just don't specify what it is, but all the 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:36.520 cars are in that era. 0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:37.560 But it's cool. 0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.399 We're working on another movie this this one's very painful. 0:26:39.400 --> 0:26:41.760 I'm working on another movie. Jennifer Gardner's in it, and 0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:46.000 we're We've built five sixty nine Camaro convertibles, which is 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:47.399 one of my favorite cars. You know, not maybe the 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:49.280 convertible apart, but sixty nine Camaros in general. I really 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.160 has always been one of my favorites. And I love 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:54.520 it because it's such a cool thing to do. But 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.040 I hate damaging sixty nine Camaro convertible. There's systemthing that's 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:03.080 so painful, but you know, it's it's funny. So that 0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.840 the car count kept increasing and we bought I started 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.200 with three real convertibles, and then we built a couple 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:10.959 of stunt cars, and then we needed another stunt car. 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:12.120 Gosh, and I. 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.000 Don't have time to start over and buy hard top 0:27:15.040 --> 0:27:17.480 and cut it because luckily the top is always plays down. 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.720 So yesterday we were you know, had to put you know, 0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:24.119 all this rigging and rollcats and safety stuff in the car. 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.640 And I was so depressed about it. But my guys can. 0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.280 Get Hey, man, you won't believe how you know, fucked 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.200 up this car is? We you know, we pulled the 0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.840 convertible top bad. You can see the quarter pounds them 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.040 and smashed in and spliced and patched poorterally. And I 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:37.520 was like, ah, thank god, it's a piece of shit, 0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:38.919 you know, I was so happy that the car was, 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:42.960 you know, not a nice car. But we're always maintaining, 0:27:42.960 --> 0:27:45.080 you know, whether it's batmobiles, we're prepping some cars for 0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:48.720 the next Ghostbusters movie, you know. So it's always there's 0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.000 always something going on there. It's always you know, it's 0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:51.800 never a dull moment. 0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:53.000 Put it that way, Hey, Dennis. 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.680 For folks that are listening that want to do what 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.200 you do right and get in the business of what 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.359 you do, you know, there's no book and there's no 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.120 class they can take on like how to go and 0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.560 break into Hollywood. I mean, what are some of the 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.960 values that you've taught your children like that you apply 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:15.720 and you're because you're super successful, you're like at the 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.280 top of your game, like you know, And if you 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.399 were to give like a young person advice on you know, 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.840 the traits that they need and the habits they needn't 0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:27.480 need to be successful, and not just in Hollywood, but 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.560 in anything, what would you advice? 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:33.000 I'm just going to say, it's really not the answer 0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:34.479 people are looking for, but it's it's really a lot 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.560 of it is luck, you know. And that's how I said, 0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.040 I end up this business. Was just told you the backstory, 0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.400 just working on a guy's car, turn into this, and 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.719 turn to that. But that being said, the best thing 0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:46.640 you can do is get a job on a movie 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:49.160 with the you know, picture card department of the transportation department. 0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:50.360 You know, at least pet your foot in the door 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:52.240 sea what goes on, see how it works. I mean, 0:28:52.280 --> 0:28:55.280 I wish I had some some of that history, but 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:58.440 I don't. You know, I literally started off, you know, 0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:01.080 doing Tokyota, you know, I mean like it was like 0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:03.200 I started off my career doing like the biggest car 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.000 movie ever and the first thing I did is I 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:06.120 looked up who did the last one? 0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:07.280 I hired them, you know what I mean. 0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:10.000 I because I was like, wow, I'm really you know, 0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.600 it was it was crazy what a huge production that was. 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.200 And I mean like as you know, you know, we 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.720 were scheduling changes, We had to you know, last minute 0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.560 replicate all the cars in Japan because there was not 0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.040 time to ship them to Japan. I mean, just crazy stuff. 0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.480 So for me to get thrown into like a car 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.800 movie of that scale for my I mean granted it 0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:28.000 was maybe my third or fourth job, and the other 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.600 jobs were like you know, like I mentioned standing by 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:32.240 here or they're not doing a whole lot. But for 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.960 someone that wants to do this, you know, the key 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.440 would be going to work for someone like myself or 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.280 you know. And it's hard too because it's it's very regional. 0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:46.120 So you know, there's Atlanta, New Mexico, you know, I mean, 0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.960 there's just not a lot of big. 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.600 Car guys outside of those areas. I mean, I I really, 0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:51.840 if I. 0:29:51.840 --> 0:29:54.240 Think about it, in Atlanta and La a couple of 0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.120 guys in New Mexico, but outside that there's not much 0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:58.720 going on. So but if you could get a job 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.920 with the you know, with a picture car company that 0:30:01.960 --> 0:30:04.480 case you're familiar, gets to your foot in the door. 0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:06.000 And I mean, I have a ton of guys that 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.160 have worked for me to actually do what I do now, 0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:10.000 you know, which is great, you know. I mean, I 0:30:10.120 --> 0:30:12.600 you know, couldn't be proud of these guys. And they've 0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.239 done that by just you know, they're being on set, 0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:15.560 they're taking in their cars. I guess to the point 0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.920 when hey, this guy's great, he's responsible, I can leave 0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.120 him on set to run it and not be there. 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:23.800 And then you know, sometimes you know, they get hired 0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.000 for a new gig outside of that. Okay, great, that's 0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.640 kind of the normal sequence of things. But yeah, I 0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.360 think you just need to get some experience and then 0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.680 meet some people and just do the best job you 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:36.040 can be as responsible as you can. 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:36.800 Never be late. 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:40.080 Try to solve every problem you can solve without making 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.720 a big deal that it's a problem, like that's one 0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:44.040 of the things that I do. We might have something 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.400 absolutely catastrophic going on, and the last thing you want 0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:49.360 to do is we got a blown up car, you know. 0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:52.160 I mean, so I'm like, okay, before I alert that 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:53.680 there's a problem, how can I solve the problem? So 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.360 you always want to have an answer to the problem 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:57.920 before everybody knows. 0:30:57.760 --> 0:30:59.720 There's a problem. Now it's not always possible, obviously. 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:02.240 But were you always like that growing up or do 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.160 you feel that's something that you learned in business over time. 0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:06.840 I feel I was always that way because I had 0:31:06.840 --> 0:31:08.239 a shop and I was always building cars, and as 0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:09.920 you know, in the world of building cars, there's always. 0:31:09.680 --> 0:31:12.160 Problems, you know. So so for instance, you. 0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.680 Build a car for somebody, and you know, nine out 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.000 of ten times, it's not your fault. 0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:17.960 The part fails. It just happens. 0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:21.080 So you're always trying to well, back then, I'm trying 0:31:21.080 --> 0:31:22.760 to appease the customer. Hey, I'm so sorry about that. 0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.800 I'm gonna get a flat beat out of my ticket. 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:24.960 You know. 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:27.160 I was always into customer service, which is why my 0:31:27.440 --> 0:31:31.960 shop did very well. But I just basically trans transferred 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.000 that same mindset into what I do now. And that 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.240 was the one thing that's that's funny about this business. 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:39.880 When I got in this business, that was non existent, 0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:41.720 you know, like like when I, you know, would work 0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:43.520 with these old school car guys. It's like that the 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.200 car broke to you bad you know, like everybody kind 0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.840 of had that attitude, like, man, how do you guys 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:50.040 get hired of the next job? You know, it shocked 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:54.440 me the lack of you know, customer service and you know, 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.880 I always look at the studio as your customer, and 0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.320 you want to get repeat business, so you try to 0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:00.240 do the best possibility you can so they call for 0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:03.280 the next one. And uh So it's really I think 0:32:03.320 --> 0:32:05.720 just one of those things that's you know, more of 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.880 a general you know, just I think the way people 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.240 should always be in life that I think has helped me, 0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.080 you know, excel in this business and you know, get 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:17.080 the job after the next job. 0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:19.560 That's great advice, I mean, but don't be a part 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.080 of the problem. Be part of the solution. And anytime 0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:26.120 anytime you and your your boys are on set, like 0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.480 there's never any stress, I mean, or at least. 0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:32.479 The right exactly, try not to show the stress. 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:36.520 There's something that's gonna happen or something that is not working. 0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.640 But everyone's like chill and everyone leans on you, Dennis, 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.720 like they're like, doesn't call Dennis, You'll figure it out. 0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:42.560 You're right there. That's it. 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:44.800 That's the key though, It's just you know, try to 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.320 be a solution person, not a problem person, and and 0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:51.680 just try to you know, not you know, make my 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:54.480 picture card, apartment problem or whatever. That issue is a 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:58.719 problem for production, you know, So that's always the goal. 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.320 If something happens, try to fix it, or they call 0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:01.520 for the car, try to you know, try to make 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:01.880 a handle. 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:03.280 Then have a backup plan. In the backup plan. 0:33:03.320 --> 0:33:07.120 But you know, like I said, it works ninety percent 0:33:07.120 --> 0:33:08.560 of the time. But you know, sometimes you just plane 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.200 run out of cars. That's the way it is. 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:28.640 So yeah, do you feel like with you know CG 0:33:29.000 --> 0:33:31.719 and now with all this, you know, the special effects 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.200 that are happening with the volume and stuff, you think 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.160 car builds are going to be limited compared to what 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.200 they were when you started. I'm sure because when we 0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.280 started talking drift, they would let me actually drive the cars. 0:33:43.280 --> 0:33:47.320 I remember, which was great. I drove every single car. 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.080 They don't let you drive them anymore. We can't even 0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:50.800 put them. 0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:52.240 We can't even reverse the car. 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:55.360 Yeah right, exactly do you pull up there someone else 0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.800 comes to back it into the spotroam. 0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:57.880 Oh that's so crazy. 0:33:58.040 --> 0:34:01.680 Yeah, yeah, I get nervous because the CG. I mean, honestly, 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:03.760 if you go, like in the in the video games, 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:06.560 like I'll walk by my kids playing you know whatever, 0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.000 you know, Grand Tarisma or whatever game they're playing. 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.600 It's like, are they watching something like that's a game? 0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:17.840 You know, Everything's become so good it scares me because 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.879 you know, I think that at some point we don't 0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:23.400 need cars, we don't need a stunt driver. Just you know, 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:25.799 draw it out, do a storyboard or whatever it is, 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.920 and do a pre visit. Yeah, do that, and then 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:31.400 it'll just show up on screen. So I don't know, 0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:33.040 I think. I mean, like I said, we talked about 0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.600 it before. I want to go to a movie where 0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:36.759 I see cars doing car stunts and sliding around, and 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.640 you know, I love like French Connection, for instance, is 0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.840 a great one. You know, car just sideswiping stuff, hitting stuff, 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.520 but real no CG. Which I guess is why I 0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.440 always gravitate to these older movies when I'm looking for 0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:51.399 a good car chase. But yeah, so I think you're 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.480 definitely onto something there. We could be in trouble. 0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:55.440 So but people can tell the difference. 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.839 I mean, when you when you feel like you can, you. 0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:00.160 Can they at one time there were they know we 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.440 don't need actors anymore. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.759 But you can, you can definitely tell. 0:35:03.800 --> 0:35:05.759 I just I'm just worried about five years from now, 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.040 you know, five years, can you tell? 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:07.440 I don't know. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:11.040 I don't know. I just can't imagine even just sitting 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:14.200 with the green screen acting like you're inside the car like. 0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.080 I'm sure they do it now to a certain extent, 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:18.759 but I don't know. There's also that point of realism 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.759 that an actor wants to have to so they don't 0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:25.720 lose touch with connecting with the character in the moment. 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.400 Yeah, I think it's I think, what's what helps you know, 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.359 you know, my cause or your cause, you know, for 0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:35.160 realism would be behind the scenes videos that show how 0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:38.879 a stunt is done. I think, Yeah, I think it's 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:40.799 really important because a lot of people don't realize. I mean, 0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:44.399 for instance, you know Fast seven the cars coming out 0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:46.440 of the plane. You know they're throwing cars out of 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.840 a plane. I mean it's with parachutes, you know. And 0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.480 it was a I'll just tell you guys a real 0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:52.520 funny story about that day. 0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:53.319 I wasn't there. 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.320 I sent one of my guys, brad be even you 0:35:55.360 --> 0:35:58.400 know Bright sent to send b rats be rad out 0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.799 to Arizona for this whole you know plane deal, and 0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:02.839 we had like maybe eight cars that we were gonna 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:05.200 you know, launch out of this airplane. 0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:06.680 And it was completely real. 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:07.960 I mean they had the cars, they had the shoots, 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.920 they had everything, and one Camaro it was one of 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:12.800 the sixty eight Camaros. 0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:14.240 A shoot didn't open for some reason. 0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.719 And uh, I mean pretty crazy to see a car 0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:19.200 that drops out of the sky for a mile. 0:36:19.239 --> 0:36:20.760 And did anyone capture it on video? 0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.439 I don't think so. The landing was not caught on video. 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:25.319 I had the car the aftermath that my shot. But 0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:27.520 then there was another one where they wanted to, you know, 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:28.680 launch a car. 0:36:28.719 --> 0:36:28.960 I can't. 0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.359 I think it was a charger, but they didn't have 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:33.279 time to pack the shoot because they were losing light. No, 0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.959 we just got to just sent a car we just built, 0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:37.680 Like one of my favorite cars is like, we just 0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:41.400 built this car. There's probably with it with labor and material. 0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:43.200 There's probably one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand in 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.920 this off road charger and literally just chuck it out 0:36:46.920 --> 0:36:47.360 of the plane. 0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:48.279 We don't have time. 0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:50.600 I'm like, no, Brad, don't let them do it. Like 0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:53.440 Brad's call me go, no, but you know, some of 0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.799 those decisions are way above my head. So they just 0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.400 they do it, you know, and we have to be. 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.440 I'd be like, I get it. They have to do 0:37:01.480 --> 0:37:03.800 it because they're like, but that car. 0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:04.480 It's hard. 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.080 It's hard, you know, because I do love cars, but 0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.000 so it's hard sometimes with these movies because you know, 0:37:09.160 --> 0:37:11.320 to a studio or product, they're just expendable. 0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:12.960 You know, yeah, it's just in their car. Yeah, bring 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:13.840 it on the one up, you know. 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:19.320 So anyways, but because especially with Dom's chargers, that they're 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.080 these super rare cars now, I mean when you started 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:22.960 there were plentiful. 0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.200 Oh my god, I know it kills me because you know, 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.560 we used to wreck a car, scrap it, send it 0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.960 to the scrapyard, and you know, today I'm spending twenty 0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.720 grand plus for some damage crash charger from nineteen seventy. 0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.800 We've been working with, you know, a couple of different companies, 0:37:39.920 --> 0:37:43.720 Buddy Mind, Dave Selvagio last time built us complete carbon bodies. 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:48.040 So it's really ninety five percent. It's not a charger. 0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:50.960 You know, there's some pieces that aren't made yet, but 0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.799 I think next time around, but you know, like we'll 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:56.360 use like the factory firewall and eight pillar for the 0:37:56.440 --> 0:37:58.839 door hinge mounts. You know, some of the sheet metal 0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:00.440 towards the back of the car, but that's about it. 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.960 Everything else, quarters, roof doors, everything's carbon fiber. 0:38:05.360 --> 0:38:06.760 But I'm hopefully in the next movie. 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:08.960 I really, I think we just have to have a 0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.319 charge that we can build purely from the ground up 0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.400 with no you know, no original car. 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:17.399 I mean literally, we're finding chargers out and so. 0:38:17.360 --> 0:38:19.319 You're the reason I'm struggling to find one. 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:20.080 Well, I don't know. 0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:21.960 I think the Dukes of Hazzard still has us beat 0:38:22.000 --> 0:38:24.799 on wrecking chargers. I don't think we've hit that number yet, 0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.759 but but yeah, we definitely have destroyed our share, that's 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:28.160 for sure. 0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:30.399 It's been great insight to get to know you more, 0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.200 get to know the man behind the cars, you know. 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:35.319 So thank you Dennis so much. 0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:37.960 This has been so great. It was great to meet. Yeah, 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.160 totally appreciate me. Thank you.