1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Fast and Furious fans, welcome back to another podcast. 2 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: My name's Amelia Hartford and I'm so kaying the reason 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: why I say Fast and Furious. Our guest today built 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: all the cars starting with Fast three, one of those 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: cars being Hans Are seven. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: Yes, he built so many iconic. 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: Cars that we shouldn't try to name them all. 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: It's great to see him take his passion for cars 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: and convert it over to movies. 10 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. We have cool conversations about cars dropping out of 11 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: planes on Fast and Furious seven, and we. 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: Also talk about the future of practical cars and CG 13 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: cars and movies. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we joke a little bit about the street 15 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: takeovers becoming a. 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: Thing which we would say this gentleman we're going to 17 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: speak to is actually responsible for unintentionally. Yeah, and without 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: further ado. 19 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Dennis McCarthy. Everybody. 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: I think people know the cars in the film, but 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: nobody knows you, Dennis. Like I even the people that 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 2: work on the movie. It's like they don't know, like 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: where you're from, like where you started, Like you know, 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: I want to share that story, Like I want to 25 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: share Dennis's story, Like how'd you get into cars? Where'd 26 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 2: you grow up, like what was the history prior to 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: you coming to fest? 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: And fears like why cars? 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like that guy behind the scenes and like 30 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 4: no one ever sees me, you know, I just you know, 31 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 4: cars show up and you know, and that's it. But 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 4: I've always been in the cars made since a very 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: very early age as long, honestly, as long as I 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: can remember. 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I you know, my. 36 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 4: First memories, first memory of a car as being you know, 37 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: somewhere around two maybe three years old, my dad had 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 4: a sixty nine Camaro for speed car with the Hurst 39 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 4: white shift nob and you know, I would reach over 40 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: there and shift gears, you know. 41 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: From the passers. 42 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 4: City's a little tiny kid, so I think it was 43 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: just something that was always where it was. And with wheels, motorcycles, bicycles, skateboards, 44 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: you know, everything in my life was kind of focused 45 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: on that. I think I had a bicycle repair shop 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 4: in the third grade with my own business cards. 47 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 3: I'd pass out at school. 48 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: You know, So I was just kind of always working 49 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 4: on something, fixing something, or playing with something or driving something. 50 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 3: So you know, long story short. 51 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: In high school, I was a bad example in today's society, 52 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: but I did street racing was like my number one hobby, 53 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 4: you know, Like my my buddies played football, played baseball. 54 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: I went street racing. So that's what I did, you know, 55 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 4: And I knew all the hot spots. I knew all 56 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 4: the times to be there, the days to be there, 57 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 4: and you know, eventually, of course got in trouble here 58 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: and there for that reason, but nonetheless it was. 59 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 3: In the long run, I guess it was worth it. 60 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: Where'd you grow up? 61 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: Burbank? Burbank? Wow? 62 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know we used to race out by 63 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 4: u you know, Peoria Street, Roxford Street. You know, we'd 64 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: go way up Wheatland. There was a long stretch there 65 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 4: we could. You know, there was a lot of great 66 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 4: places actually right down. It's funny when I started the movie, 67 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: it reminded me because one of the places we would 68 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 4: race was right off of Fletcher. I remember the first 69 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: time going down and saying, oh man, that's my street, 70 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 4: right you know, they're all the burnout mark Shore right there. 71 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 3: Everything. 72 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: You know, it's like one of my favorite spots. But 73 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,519 Speaker 4: h got a job at a dinosh job. I worked 74 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 4: at the Glen Dail's Speed Center for it. So that's 75 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 4: like if you ever noticed in Fast nine, the credit 76 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 4: car says Glendale Speed Center on the hood. I put 77 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 4: that there because that's where I worked when I was 78 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 4: in high school. So you know, I always try to 79 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: slip a few things in and it's and it's funny. 80 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: It's like we did some mock up with the car. Actually, 81 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 4: you know, your friend Jose at Extreme Wraps and I 82 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 4: do this hood and then you know, I'm asked, well, 83 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 4: do we have clearance? I go, yeah, and I called 84 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: the owners still around, you know, I got a hold 85 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: of them and we got kind of cleared. But nobody 86 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 4: asked me where it came from. And I think what 87 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: happens in these situations is I think that probably the 88 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: director maybe assumed the production designer came up with their vice. 89 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 3: Versa or producer. 90 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 4: They disassumed that it came from somewhere that nobody ever 91 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 4: bothers to ask me, what's the Glendail Speed Center? 92 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 93 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 4: But it's, uh, you know, there's so much going on 94 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: when you're you know, when you're you know, doing fifty 95 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: some cars, it just all kind of blends together. But anyways, Uh, 96 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 4: I started working there and then you know, shortly thereafter, 97 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 4: you know, I went to a trade school. I went 98 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 4: to Valley College briefly for engineering and just ended up 99 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: on my own shop by thinking around maybe twenty twenty one. 100 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 3: I have my own. 101 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: Business, so been doing that ever since. And you know, 102 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: so it's really you know, people always ask, wow, this 103 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 4: must be great. You know, what's it like compared to 104 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: with this, And it's really the same thing as what 105 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: I did. I mean, I had a shop with you know, 106 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 4: maybe six guys, what would build a bunch of cars. 107 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: I do the same thing now, just on a much 108 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 4: bigger scale. 109 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: That's all. 110 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: It's just a tighter deadline, right. 111 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: The deadlines are tight. Yeah, you know, like you know, 112 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 4: you can say, yea, I'm gonna bild you a custom car, 113 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: you know, frame up, you know everything else. You know, 114 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: you can say, yeah, give me about a year to 115 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 4: do it. You know, we'll have to build you know, 116 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: sixty cars like that in the span of three and 117 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: a half months. So you know, it's a different it's 118 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 4: a different speed, we'll say, for sure, grabbing another gear 119 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 4: there for sure, but you know higher accordingly, get the 120 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 4: right guys. 121 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 3: It always gets done. 122 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: We're at number ten, fast and fear as ten and 123 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: you started the same time you did, Yeah, Fast and 124 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: Fear As three. So could you give us thenus a 125 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: little history of how you got into the whole Fast 126 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: and Fear As franchise. 127 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I mean it's uh, it's going way back. 128 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 4: But I was just you know, custom car builder had 129 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: a business in Burbank for forever, like literally since I 130 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 4: was twenty years old, and somehow, through a front of 131 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: a friend, I ended up working on. His name was 132 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: Jim Brubaker at the time, he was the head of 133 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: the studio. Yeah, so he got referred to me to 134 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 4: work on his cars through a friend of his son. 135 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 4: So anyways, it really just started off working on I 136 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 4: think he had he had seventy one L Camino. 137 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 3: He had a couple of cool cars, you know. 138 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 4: So one thing led to another and he wanted me 139 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 4: to build a modify a vehicle for a scene in 140 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 4: a movie called Dragonfly. Okay, it was a movie, Uh 141 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: Kevin Costner and his wife dies going off a cliff 142 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 4: in a bus. So they had purchased this old army vehicle. 143 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: Probably the worst possible choice, you know. I mean, there 144 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 4: could have been a lot of things that you could 145 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 4: as bought and would have worked. But anyways, they bought 146 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 4: this old army vehicle that had no suspension, manual transmission, 147 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 4: no power. I mean, it was just very not user 148 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 4: friendly at all. So they wanted a V eight. They 149 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 4: wanted air ride, suspension and automatic, you know, just all 150 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 4: this different stuff so we could go down the hill 151 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 4: smoothly with a camera mount. It was a point of 152 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 4: view shot as all it was. So they had basically 153 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: the front of the bus then goes off. 154 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: It's cliff. 155 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 4: So I said, yeah, no prom at all, you know, 156 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 4: So got that done for him, and then he called 157 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 4: me again for Bruce Almighty needed some help with some cars. 158 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 4: They had a Saline S seven. Long story on that one. 159 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: I won't go into a bit. 160 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: It was I want to hear the story, please, That's 161 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 2: why you're here to tell his stories. 162 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: All right, Well this is a funny story. 163 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's really not funny, but I guess 164 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: it was funny from being on the outside of it. 165 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: So he asked me to come to set to check 166 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 4: out this Saleine S seven and it had been postponed, 167 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: postpone because the car wasn't ready. This was literally right 168 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 4: when that car was debut. It was just you know 169 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: there was one in existence, which was owned by Steve Salan. 170 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: That was the only car that existed. So they kept moving, 171 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 4: the shop moving, the shot waited on this car. So 172 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm there that day. He wants me to wait and 173 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 4: stand by and just check this car out, make sure 174 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: everything's cool. He wants me to be the guy that 175 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 4: places it. You know, shows Jim Garrey had to get 176 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: in out of it, all that good stuff. So like, okay, yeah, great, 177 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: it sounds like fine. So I head out there and 178 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 4: trailer roll up and the car had to be still right. 179 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: Don't if you saw the movie, but there's a scene 180 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 4: where the car, his silver Z morphs into the same lane. 181 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 4: So the color was a critical part of it. And 182 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 4: they'd already shot the Z. So trailer shows up, but 183 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: it's got a yellow one and a sober one. That's strange. 184 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: Wonder what they're bringing? A yell, I mean, what good 185 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: does a yellow car do us? So anyways, cars getting loaded, 186 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: and the rep says, hey, I apologize, but the silver 187 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 4: car is not done. It's it's cosmetically cool. It's a 188 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: good static car, but it doesn't run. And we just 189 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 4: figured you guys could just you know, either do a 190 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: static shot or you just do a change the car 191 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 4: to yellow. I'm going, well, that's not that's not my call. 192 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: So anyways, everyone comes over and that's not gonna work. 193 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: It's a driving shot. The car has to be silber. 194 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: They're talking about Tobar's is that. Nothing's going to work. So, uh, 195 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: you know, I'm asked, hey, can you fix the car? 196 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: I said, I look inside the car. You know, there's 197 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 4: no wiring, harness, there's no fuels. It's been haws a 198 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: motor sitting it. But that's about it. I go, not today, 199 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 4: you know, that's not gonna happen. So this is right 200 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 4: about the time that there was something called peel coat 201 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: paint that was around. It just kind of started, you know, 202 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: being used in the studio business. Basically, yeah, exactly, but 203 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: it's but not as good. It's like it's almost like 204 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: a rubberized it feels like a Latex glove on the car. 205 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: And then you spray paint basically the latext you know 206 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 4: how it works, and you have to spray it on 207 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,119 Speaker 4: with a special gun kind of like a gun similar 208 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: to like a linex or a rhino lining gun. 209 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: You know. 210 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: So we send guys in all these different directions to 211 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: get the gun, to get the paint, to get the 212 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 4: you know, the peel coat product, and we reconvened in 213 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: a body shop. A friend of mine jacked out a 214 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: body we I called, I got a nine to one one. 215 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 4: I have to have this car back on setamorrow five am, 216 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 4: you know, get this down overnight. 217 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: And he goes, yeah, yeah, no problem. This is, you know, 218 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: probably three in the afternoon. 219 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 4: By this point, by the time we get all the materials, 220 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: it's probably five and we start trying to spray this 221 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: car and it was freezing cold, right, spraying the stuff, 222 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 4: spraying stuff, but the stuff is too cold and it 223 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: just keeps orange, peeling really bad, and then we have 224 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 4: to clean it all off, start over again. 225 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: We go through this process. 226 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 4: By the time I get to uh god, it was 227 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 4: probably ten pm, eleven pm at night, and I'm just going, man, 228 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: it's not gonna work. You know, we can't. It's just 229 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: it's about twenty five degrees too cold. So I call up, 230 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 4: call up, you go, hey, man, I got a little problem. 231 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 4: I said, It's just it's not gonna work. I said, 232 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 4: the only way I can, you know, have this car 233 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 4: for you tomorrow morning. At five am, and Silver is 234 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: if I just paint the car. I don't want to 235 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: use profanity on your show. But he goes, yeah, I 236 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 4: paint the car. I go, okay, all right, great man. 237 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 4: So next thing, you know, man, I got a crew 238 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 4: guy sand in this you know, brand new sanely S 239 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: seven and we painted at silver and we were up 240 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 4: on set the next morning five am. I'm touching up 241 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: the little little flaws with a sharpie. You know, I'm 242 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: just like, I'm literally right there as they all come out. 243 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: I been silver sharpie. 244 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: I was using a black sharpie because I didn't have 245 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: a silver sharp but the black was better than yellow. 246 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 4: So it was kind of like in the door seams 247 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,840 Speaker 4: and everything, I'm just using a black sharpie and I'm 248 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: trying to hide any kind of any that's of yellow. 249 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: And we got it done. 250 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of discussion after that about that whole 251 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 4: process and potential legal action there, but anyways, we got 252 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: the car pain and we had it on set. It 253 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: looked great, and uh, you know, everything went well from 254 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 4: that one. 255 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: So not only paint but also prep a car within 256 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: that timeframe. I hope people listening can understand how unreal 257 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: that is. 258 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. I mean we did the car. 259 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 4: By that point, it was probably eleven at night and 260 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 4: we had it, you know, probably gave us about four 261 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 4: and a half hours. 262 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: To was it was the paint dry when you showed 263 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: up on Satacky. 264 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 3: We brought it back in an enclosed trailer so get 265 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: the bugs off of it. 266 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: But now it all worked out. But it was a 267 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 4: that was kind of my start in the business I got. 268 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: I got some sidetracked there. So back to the original question, 269 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 4: that's how I got kind of hooked up with Universal 270 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 4: and then uh, you know, one thing led to another, 271 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 4: and in regards to Fast and Furious, I get a 272 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: call once again, same same same man, Jim brup Hair 273 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 4: calls me after Zombe because, hey, what do you know 274 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: about this sport and drifting? You know, in my head, 275 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 4: I'm thinking when I was in high school, man, I 276 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: you know, slide cars right into a curb, you know. 277 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: So anyways, I said. 278 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds yeah, I know, I know everything about it, 279 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: like you know, the usual answer, you know. So he goes, great, 280 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 4: can you do can you do a little research on 281 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: the topic for me? He doesn't tell me what it's 282 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: about or what it's for I mean, in retrospect, it 283 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 4: feels like I turned it like an eighth grade report 284 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: on the sport of drifting. You know. I did a 285 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 4: notebook with a picture of a card drifting and just 286 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 4: kind of went through the history of the tracks, the 287 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: key players and everything else, and uh, very rudimentary, but 288 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 4: just you know, brought to him and kind of sat 289 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 4: down them and just kind of went through a page 290 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 4: by page and showed them where it's at, the different 291 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: organizations that run and everything else. He sayes, great, Great, 292 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: I totally appreciate this. I said, okay, all right, thank you, 293 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: I can no problem. You know, left thought that was 294 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: that was the end of that. He calls you back 295 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 4: a few days, Lady, just had like you to come 296 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 4: up and talk to a few people. I said, yeah, no, 297 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 4: no problem. I head up to the Universal. We'll go 298 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 4: up to the eighth flour conference room and you know, 299 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: there's a whole bunch of people there. I'm you know, 300 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: horribly underdressed. You know, I'm just I was not not 301 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 4: expecting this. And they've actually made a copy of that 302 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: book and they've spread it around the whole table to 303 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: everybody there, and I'm just like wow, I woke. A 304 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 4: little heads up would have been nice, you know, like 305 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 4: a little bit of a hey, this is what we're 306 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: going to do. But just you know, I come and 307 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 4: blind and say, you know, same conversation, Can you explain 308 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 4: the sport of Christian to us? 309 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 310 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: I did a little pitch on it, and uh. At 311 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 4: the end of that meeting, they say, well, hey, we'd 312 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 4: like you to go to Japan and do some research 313 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: for us. I'm like, great, you know, but it happened 314 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 4: that quick. It was literally, you know, walked out of 315 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: that room, hooked up with travel, looked a flight. 316 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: And you know, I think within a few days I was, 317 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: you know, I was in Tokyo. So that's how it started. 318 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: That's how I got hooked up with the franchise, and 319 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 4: that's you know, that was my first experience with you know, 320 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 4: fun with a whole bunch of cars. 321 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: Amelia and I were talking about the street takeover donut scene. 322 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 2: Do you understand that, Dennis, I do. 323 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: Not understand it. All I've ever seen and it goes back. 324 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 4: I mean, this goes back to when I was a kid, 325 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: probably the sixth grade. You know, my my buddy's dad 326 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 4: was a big stock cartan. We'd go out to Sagas 327 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: and I remember, you know, when getting the seats, you' 328 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 4: always said, oh yeah, you never never sit on the 329 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: outside of the turn, you know, like we'd always you know, 330 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 4: you know, PLoP down in front of the straight away 331 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: or somebody. 332 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, the cars can climb the fence. 333 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: I've seen it, you know, all this stuff, so at 334 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 4: a very early age, you know, don't stand on the 335 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 4: outside of a sliding car. 336 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 3: And I watched these street takeovers. The cars are. 337 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 4: Doing donuts and the streets are packed five or six deep. 338 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 4: I mean, if something does go wrong, you can't get 339 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 4: out of the way. 340 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 3: It's just but it does, and it does. 341 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just excited over getting hits. 342 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 3: I watch it. 343 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: I just don't understand what has happened to common sense, 344 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: you know. I mean that's something like when we were 345 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: like even my buddies, like, we would never do that, 346 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, yeah, we might go into an 347 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: air so that should do a bunch of donuts, but 348 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 4: it's going to be, you know, somewhere where there's nobody 349 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 4: else around. And that was great, and we drive away 350 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: really quick to it. Don't get a ticket, you know, 351 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: but to do with a huge crowd. It's I don't know, 352 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: it's beyond me. No one's you know what. I just 353 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: I just figured it out. 354 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: Huh. 355 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: I know where it came from. It came from I 356 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 4: might be off one movie, but it came from Fastened 357 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 4: Furious Sport. We did that sequence down at downtown LA. 358 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: We had a BMW doing donuts. We had a huge 359 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 4: party scene. 360 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 5: It was down I want to say, take that back movie, 361 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 5: But it is so funny though, I just we have 362 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 5: the FBI. 363 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: I know, it's just so funny. When you ask that question, 364 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 4: where did it come from? I thought about I know, 365 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: I've seen this one before and it just popped in 366 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: my head. That's where I saw it. But we rigged 367 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: at BMW. Now what we did was we actually had 368 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: a BMW that was rigged like a like a track 369 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 4: on a spinning thing, so it couldn't get away. It 370 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: couldn't go anywhere, but you know it could had the 371 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 4: right look on screen. 372 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: On the set of Grand Tarrismo, I saw my first 373 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: pod car, and for the listeners who don't know what 374 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: a podcar is, everything that controls the car is now 375 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: on the roof and the actor gets to sit in 376 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: the driver's seat where you can't see anything because the 377 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: cameras are blocking your view, and the stunt driver drives 378 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: and you get to pretend like you're driving. 379 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, because you can always tell when you're watching a 380 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: TV show of film or whatever if they're on a 381 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 4: process trailer just has that no suspension. Look, the car 382 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 4: sits too high. It's just it's just not the same. 383 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 4: But with the pod, it's really the car's doing what 384 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 4: it should be doing, but a stuntman is on the 385 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: roof driving it. So just imagine if you had a 386 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: roof rack with a lawn chair and a steering wheel. 387 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 4: That's about what it is. He's sitting up on the roof. 388 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: He has gas pedal, he has Oh, this was another 389 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 4: first too on Grand Turisma was a pod with a 390 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: manual transmission. Now, the only way we could do it 391 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 4: was because it was electronic shifted, so we didn't actually 392 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 4: have to have shift linkage because it was on the 393 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 4: steering wheel. So he basically just took the GT three 394 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 4: steering wheel, put that up on on the top, rewired 395 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 4: everything and put a coluct pedal up there, which was hydraulic. 396 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 4: So but it was pretty cool. Because that's something that 397 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 4: you usually don't get with the pod. But anyways, bottom 398 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 4: line is it just puts the actor in the car 399 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: for reel at real speeds and it just sells. It 400 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: just makes it makes the movie that much better. When 401 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: you can do that, it's a pretty cool way to 402 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: film an action car movie, for sure. I mean it's 403 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: really the best. 404 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: What's the fastest you've been in a quarter mile? 405 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: M Let's see. I don't know. 406 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 4: I've driven a lot of fast cars, but I can't say, okay, 407 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 4: this is a quarter mile. I'm gonna hammer this car 408 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: and go, oh you know what, Okay, I do have 409 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 4: I do have something to back this up. So on 410 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 4: Tokyo Drift, we built these Monty Carlos right and uh 411 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: one of them had a five seventy two was a 412 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: Richmond four speed, had a fourty six gear in it. 413 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: We went out to uh Cameral Airport and we literally 414 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: marked off a quarter mile with Edmunds online. Then we 415 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 4: ran all the cars. I got in that car to 416 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: make a pass and something broke. 417 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 3: I forget it. 418 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 4: I think the shift link and something something happened. I 419 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: couldn't make a pass, so we came back. I went 420 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 4: through everything just to the valves, got anything ready to go. 421 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 4: In the meantime, we ran the other car, which was 422 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: a five hundred and nine cubic chain car, which coincidentally, 423 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 4: I still own that car. I have that car in 424 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: my shop right now. But in that car, i'd have 425 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 4: to go back and watch. I think you can still 426 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 4: pull it up. But I think it ran an eleven 427 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 4: something in the quarter mile. And they had, you know, 428 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 4: all the proper equipment and everything else. And anyways, long 429 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: story short, I get back in the car with a 430 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: big motor and it's got slicks, I've got the air perer. 431 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: I'm really I want to get a ten second time 432 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: out of this car. And uh, you know, they got 433 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 4: the light green go, and for whatever reason, the first 434 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: you know light didn't trigger the car. 435 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: So I never got a quarter mile time. 436 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 4: But I went through the lights in one hundred and 437 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: thirty miles an hour, which is pretty damn fast. I mean, 438 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 4: in a nineteen seventy Monet card, to go through the 439 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: lights at one hundred and thirty miles an hour, it 440 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 4: had to be I'm going to in my mind, I 441 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 4: believe it had to be a ten second pass. But 442 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: you know, it never got officially recorded, so that. 443 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 3: Was very impressed about. 444 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 4: And the other thing that was horrible about that day is, 445 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, that's not a real incredibly high Revy motor, 446 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 4: and there was no and I knew there was a 447 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 4: light at the quarter in the quarter mile, but there 448 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: was no visual reference, like we should have put a 449 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: traffic car. So I didn't want to shut up early, 450 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 4: so I was going to hold it in extra long. Well, 451 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 4: I kept going forth, gear, ran out of ran out 452 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 4: of gear, and I ended up scattering that motor. I 453 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 4: mean scattered it to the point where you know, connecting 454 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 4: rods came through the side. 455 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: Of the block, windowed the block. 456 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, oil on the airstrip, and I think that was 457 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 4: the last time we were ever allowed to do that 458 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: again because of that, because it dumped you know, seven 459 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 4: quarts of oil right onto the airstrip. But anyways, all 460 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: that lawn the motor up, and I still want to 461 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: get a recorded quarter mile, So I'm still very depressed 462 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 4: about that. 463 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: It's okay, there you go. 464 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: I'll tell you guys a sad story of the car 465 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 4: that I wanted more than any new car. I can 466 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: probably say my whole life was the new CTFI V Corvette. 467 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, black Wing, black Wing Cadillact. 468 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: I got one hundred and twentieth anniversary one. 469 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: You're gonna love it. 470 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for it. 471 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: So when the black Wing, I started reading about it 472 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 4: as I going, oh my god, this is a car. 473 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 4: I can get a Cadillact with four doors on a clutch. 474 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: I said, I must have this. So and we were working, 475 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 4: we were on a show, we were doing something and 476 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: I missed the order day. 477 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: I just missed it. 478 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: And I was devastated because they were they all they 479 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 4: sold out like instantly. 480 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: Luckily, I have a couple of friends. 481 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 4: Her named Sandy from General Motors, but she was huge 482 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: help in making some phone calls to Michigan. She got me, 483 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: she got me the opportunity to order one. So I 484 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 4: ordered you black, the carbon seat, everything exactly what I wanted. 485 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 4: And uh, it's the coolest car ever. I mean, it's 486 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 4: absolutely Yeah. It's in my garage. But this is a 487 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: sad part that I have. I've had it for I 488 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 4: think a year and it has a thousand miles on it. 489 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 4: Like I don't drive it. You know, it's in my 490 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 4: garage at my house with the car cover on it, 491 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: and it's like we're going out here. 492 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: No, I can't ballet park this car. 493 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: Really burn the clutch out. 494 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: Screw it up. I'm not I'm not doing that. I 495 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 3: don't leave it anywhere. 496 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel that way about the Corvettes. But I 497 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: like when I tell you I'm so excited for this 498 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: black Wing, I like, I literally just can't wait to 499 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: go get it. It's like, what the last combustion manual 500 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: transmission car. 501 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: That is the coolest car ever. Like I said, that's 502 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 3: so cool. It's the one that I'm. 503 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: Going to daily drive. That's going to be like my 504 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: I joke that I'm buying the car from my dog. 505 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: I'm not that, you know, it's not really the case, 506 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: but like I don't even know if she's ever gonna 507 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: sit in it. Now they say it, but I was. 508 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: That was my intent. It was gonna be my daily driver. 509 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna try to start putting some more miles 510 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: on it, for sure. 511 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 4: Congratulation. That's that's fine that we own the same car. 512 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: At first we work on the same movie and then 513 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: we own the same car. 514 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 3: Pretty cool. 515 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: Then, as you know, I have to working in the 516 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: Hollywood and with all these cars, what is your favorite 517 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: like car movie like that you've worked on or that 518 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: you just go, okay, this is this sets the bar 519 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 2: for a film that has cars in it. 520 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is a great question, you know, and I 521 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 4: mean I lean back to like the older stuff, you know, 522 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 4: like seventy stuff. I mean, as a young kid, my 523 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 4: all time favorite movie was The Gunball Rally. 524 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: One of my favorite. 525 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: Scenes in that movie is it's a four to twenty 526 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 4: seven Cobra and a Ferrari Daytona racing through the La 527 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 4: River and it's just awesome. And there's there's backstories so 528 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 4: that too. There was a body shop in in Bertman 529 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 4: called Auto FM, which is coincidental where my dad took 530 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 4: all his cars. But he was one of the guys 531 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 4: that was responsible for fixing the Cobra overnight because they 532 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: spun the car out and went into the channel in 533 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: the center and you know, this is the old days 534 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 4: of film, and they had one Ferrari, they had one Cobra, 535 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: so when they wrecked it, they had to bring the 536 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 4: car back overnight, bring it back and it was it 537 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 4: was a. 538 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 3: Real one too, a woman and body car. 539 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: But it was a real Cobra. For twice seven. 540 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, which back in nineteen seventy eight or seventy six whatever, 541 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: it was meant next to nothing. You know, it was 542 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 4: a four thousand dollars car back then. 543 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: But today there worth so much of course. 544 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, so anyways, but if you ever get a chance, 545 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: check that movie out, you know, and really, I mean 546 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 4: what I like in the movie is realism. I'm not 547 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: a huge fan of massive CG. You know, I really 548 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: like it. You know, to me, if you're watching a 549 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 4: movie and you you can believe that the stunt is 550 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 4: really happening as you're watching it, I think it just 551 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 4: adds to the project. And I think that's one great 552 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 4: thing about the Fast and Furious franchises. 553 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: We try to do that now. 554 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: Obviously over the years, the cg's gotten a little bigger, 555 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: but we still try to keep the car stunts, you know, 556 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 4: being a real car stunt. 557 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 1: Do you watch car movies the same too? I mean 558 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: you're probably working on all of them, but do you 559 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: watch them the same today? Are you constantly looking at Oh, 560 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: I see how they did that? That's an interesting element. 561 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: I nitpick things that you know, like, hey, the wheels 562 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 4: are different on that car. You know, it's just little 563 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 4: things like that that I'm because I you know, I 564 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: would always criticize myself, you know, and it happens if 565 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 4: we screw something up, if a car looks a little bit, 566 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, like I said, we're building to set it 567 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: ten cars, they all need to look identical, and if 568 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: something's off, I'll definitely catch it when I'm watching it. 569 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 4: But I unfortunately, I can't get that out of my mind. 570 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 4: So every time I watch a liver of the car chase, 571 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm looking for a flaw. I'm looking for a double 572 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: car that has a different seat or a different interior, things. 573 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: That a lot of people probably wouldn't notice just watching it, 574 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 1: but you probably those tune die for it. 575 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 3: Right, yeah exactly. 576 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 4: I mean everything else is probably blur outside of that, 577 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 4: but the cars I'm focused on. 578 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 2: It was really cool on the last film where you know, 579 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: the director was leaning on you to like help the 580 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,239 Speaker 2: dialogue to make it, you know, like legit because in 581 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: the past, I mean, the fans are complaining, They're like, yo, man, 582 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: you guys are in space. Well bro right, there's like 583 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 2: it's seventy thirty. It's it's like seventy percent. You know, 584 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: Like when I'm outside there. You know, the fans will 585 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: be like, I'm gonna watch the movie anyway, but hey man, 586 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 2: it'd be nice if, like, you know, you could go 587 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: back to the cars. And then thirty percent is like, 588 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 2: fuck you guys, man, you guys this bullshit. You guys 589 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: are in space and what the fuck is that? 590 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 3: Like, it's not a car movie and you are right, 591 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 3: so right right, yeah, no, I'm with you. 592 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, I I would love to see, 593 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: you know, like a flashback, like an old school flashback 594 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: and that maybe the maybe the history of uh, you know, 595 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 4: Toretto Seniors street racing days or something just kind of 596 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 4: ran that back. I mean, it's really it's hard to 597 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 4: do it today because it's just not really done today. 598 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 4: If it is, you know, it's like you said, it's 599 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 4: more of the street takeover. I don't know of any 600 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 4: you know, or I mean, I know it's out there, 601 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: but I guess I'm just out of the loop on it. 602 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: But uh, but I think it'd be great to have 603 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 4: like a flashback or something that goes back to the 604 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: to the real roots of you know, maybe you know, 605 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 4: the unknown where the franchise came from or something like that. 606 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 4: You know unknow where the Touretto name came from, you 607 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: know where where that'll stem from. Would be pretty awesome. 608 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, I like, you know, street races that 609 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: are you know, as real as they can possibly be, 610 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: you know, I think would be great. 611 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: A lot of people ask what happens through the cars. 612 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: From I was just thinking that. 613 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: The cars usually, as you know, they get destroyed during filming. 614 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 4: You know, for instance, let's take a domb charge in 615 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 4: a Fast and Furious movie. You know, if we get 616 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: two that make it through, you know whatever, we've built ten, twelve, 617 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 4: fourteen of them, we're doing pretty good. And when I 618 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 4: stay destroyed, I mean really destroyed. I mean you know 619 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: it's on some effects rig, it's cut up, there's things 620 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: well to do it everywhere, So it's uh, you know, 621 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 4: we're definitely hard hard on vehicles. The ones that do remain, 622 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: you know, we'll always go into Universal's asset warehouse and 623 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: then they'll be used for tours, for special events, they'll 624 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: be on display at the theme park. Eventually some of 625 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 4: them do get sold. They're typically to sold to you know, 626 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 4: someone that has a museum or as a collector, you know, 627 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 4: so not a lot of the cars really survive and 628 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: I actually get out there. 629 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you see them. 630 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 4: And the other thing too. This is something else that 631 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: always cracks me up. There's a lot of fakes that 632 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 4: are portrayed as real cars, so that I see all 633 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,200 Speaker 4: the time. You know, cars like I know how many 634 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 4: cars were made and how many cars survived. And there 635 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 4: are several cars out there that I know none survived, 636 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 4: or if there's one, I know that it's part of 637 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,479 Speaker 4: the universal. But yet here's one for sale, you know, 638 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 4: for a million dollars or something. So yeah, so you 639 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: have to be careful of that one. You know, a 640 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 4: lot of a lot of counterfeits out there. 641 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, like anything, I'm sure. 642 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, who would have guessed? 643 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 3: I guess. 644 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 4: I guess you're doing good. Yeah, they're kind of fitting 645 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 4: your cars he built, that's I guess. I said something. 646 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 2: But you're right by Jay Leno's garage right where else 647 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 2: You're very close. 648 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 3: Yeah. We see him every day, you know. I mean, 649 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: he's one of the coolest guys ever. 650 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 4: He's always riding a motorcycle, driving a steam car, driving something, 651 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: you know, And like I said, he drives right by 652 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 4: our shop. Sometimes you'll see him three different times in 653 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 4: the day driving a different vehicle. But one time I'm 654 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 4: coming down San Fernando. I'm making a left onto my 655 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 4: street and I see him pushing a motorcycle like an. 656 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 3: Old the Indian or hardy. 657 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 4: I don't know any what it is, but he's pushing 658 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 4: his motorcycle. Then he's a ways off. I mean, he's 659 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 4: probably a good mile from his shop or more so. 660 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 4: I pulled over to go, Jay, what are you doing? 661 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: Man? 662 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 3: It broke down? 663 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 4: I go, well, do let me let me call State Bed. 664 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 4: I'll get someone down here. We'll load your bike. We'll 665 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: get me O. 666 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no. This is a this is my 667 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: exercise planning. 668 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 4: I ride the bike. When it breaks down, I push 669 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: it back and he was like, take off, go I'm good. 670 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 4: He's all by himself, just pushing a motorcycle, you know, 671 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: through the streets of Sime Valley and a true car 672 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: lever motorcycle lever. 673 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: I mean it's yeah, what are you working on next? 674 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: Anything you can talk about? 675 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're working on let's see right now, I'm working 676 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 4: on the Joker too. 677 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 3: We're working on a joker too. 678 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: Cool? 679 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, what are you building for? 680 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: Are you building the moment? 681 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: His car or no, well, still in production there, so yeah, 682 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 4: I can't reveal too much about it, but I will 683 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 4: say there is a couple of cool cars. It's well, 684 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 4: as you know, this isn't a secret, but those cars 685 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 4: always have kind of like a late eighties early nineties 686 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 4: feel to them. 687 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: You know, it's they're never really like a peerod movie. 688 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 4: They just don't specify what it is, but all the 689 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: cars are in that era. 690 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: But it's cool. 691 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: We're working on another movie this this one's very painful. 692 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 4: I'm working on another movie. Jennifer Gardner's in it, and 693 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 4: we're We've built five sixty nine Camaro convertibles, which is 694 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: one of my favorite cars. You know, not maybe the 695 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 4: convertible apart, but sixty nine Camaros in general. I really 696 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: has always been one of my favorites. And I love 697 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: it because it's such a cool thing to do. But 698 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 4: I hate damaging sixty nine Camaro convertible. There's systemthing that's 699 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: so painful, but you know, it's it's funny. So that 700 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: the car count kept increasing and we bought I started 701 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 4: with three real convertibles, and then we built a couple 702 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 4: of stunt cars, and then we needed another stunt car. 703 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 3: Gosh, and I. 704 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: Don't have time to start over and buy hard top 705 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: and cut it because luckily the top is always plays down. 706 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 4: So yesterday we were you know, had to put you know, 707 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: all this rigging and rollcats and safety stuff in the car. 708 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 3: And I was so depressed about it. But my guys can. 709 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 4: Get Hey, man, you won't believe how you know, fucked 710 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: up this car is? We you know, we pulled the 711 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: convertible top bad. You can see the quarter pounds them 712 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: and smashed in and spliced and patched poorterally. And I 713 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 4: was like, ah, thank god, it's a piece of shit, 714 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 4: you know, I was so happy that the car was, 715 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: you know, not a nice car. But we're always maintaining, 716 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 4: you know, whether it's batmobiles, we're prepping some cars for 717 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: the next Ghostbusters movie, you know. So it's always there's 718 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: always something going on there. It's always you know, it's 719 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: never a dull moment. 720 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 3: Put it that way, Hey, Dennis. 721 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: For folks that are listening that want to do what 722 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 2: you do right and get in the business of what 723 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: you do, you know, there's no book and there's no 724 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: class they can take on like how to go and 725 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: break into Hollywood. I mean, what are some of the 726 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: values that you've taught your children like that you apply 727 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: and you're because you're super successful, you're like at the 728 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 2: top of your game, like you know, And if you 729 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: were to give like a young person advice on you know, 730 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 2: the traits that they need and the habits they needn't 731 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: need to be successful, and not just in Hollywood, but 732 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 2: in anything, what would you advice? 733 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: I'm just going to say, it's really not the answer 734 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 4: people are looking for, but it's it's really a lot 735 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 4: of it is luck, you know. And that's how I said, 736 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 4: I end up this business. Was just told you the backstory, 737 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 4: just working on a guy's car, turn into this, and 738 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 4: turn to that. But that being said, the best thing 739 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 4: you can do is get a job on a movie 740 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 4: with the you know, picture card department of the transportation department. 741 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: You know, at least pet your foot in the door 742 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 4: sea what goes on, see how it works. I mean, 743 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 4: I wish I had some some of that history, but 744 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 4: I don't. You know, I literally started off, you know, 745 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 4: doing Tokyota, you know, I mean like it was like 746 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: I started off my career doing like the biggest car 747 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: movie ever and the first thing I did is I 748 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: looked up who did the last one? 749 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: I hired them, you know what I mean. 750 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: I because I was like, wow, I'm really you know, 751 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 4: it was it was crazy what a huge production that was. 752 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: And I mean like as you know, you know, we 753 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: were scheduling changes, We had to you know, last minute 754 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: replicate all the cars in Japan because there was not 755 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: time to ship them to Japan. I mean, just crazy stuff. 756 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 4: So for me to get thrown into like a car 757 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 4: movie of that scale for my I mean granted it 758 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 4: was maybe my third or fourth job, and the other 759 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 4: jobs were like you know, like I mentioned standing by 760 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: here or they're not doing a whole lot. But for 761 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 4: someone that wants to do this, you know, the key 762 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: would be going to work for someone like myself or 763 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: you know. And it's hard too because it's it's very regional. 764 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: So you know, there's Atlanta, New Mexico, you know, I mean, 765 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: there's just not a lot of big. 766 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 3: Car guys outside of those areas. I mean, I I really, 767 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: if I. 768 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: Think about it, in Atlanta and La a couple of 769 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: guys in New Mexico, but outside that there's not much 770 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: going on. So but if you could get a job 771 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: with the you know, with a picture car company that 772 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 4: case you're familiar, gets to your foot in the door. 773 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 4: And I mean, I have a ton of guys that 774 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 4: have worked for me to actually do what I do now, 775 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: you know, which is great, you know. I mean, I 776 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: you know, couldn't be proud of these guys. And they've 777 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 4: done that by just you know, they're being on set, 778 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 4: they're taking in their cars. I guess to the point 779 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 4: when hey, this guy's great, he's responsible, I can leave 780 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 4: him on set to run it and not be there. 781 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: And then you know, sometimes you know, they get hired 782 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 4: for a new gig outside of that. Okay, great, that's 783 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: kind of the normal sequence of things. But yeah, I 784 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 4: think you just need to get some experience and then 785 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 4: meet some people and just do the best job you 786 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 4: can be as responsible as you can. 787 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: Never be late. 788 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 4: Try to solve every problem you can solve without making 789 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 4: a big deal that it's a problem, like that's one 790 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: of the things that I do. We might have something 791 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: absolutely catastrophic going on, and the last thing you want 792 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: to do is we got a blown up car, you know. 793 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: I mean, so I'm like, okay, before I alert that 794 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: there's a problem, how can I solve the problem? So 795 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: you always want to have an answer to the problem 796 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: before everybody knows. 797 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: There's a problem. Now it's not always possible, obviously. 798 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: But were you always like that growing up or do 799 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: you feel that's something that you learned in business over time. 800 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: I feel I was always that way because I had 801 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 4: a shop and I was always building cars, and as 802 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 4: you know, in the world of building cars, there's always. 803 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 3: Problems, you know. So so for instance, you. 804 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 4: Build a car for somebody, and you know, nine out 805 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: of ten times, it's not your fault. 806 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: The part fails. It just happens. 807 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 4: So you're always trying to well, back then, I'm trying 808 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 4: to appease the customer. Hey, I'm so sorry about that. 809 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 4: I'm gonna get a flat beat out of my ticket. 810 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: You know. 811 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: I was always into customer service, which is why my 812 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: shop did very well. But I just basically trans transferred 813 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 4: that same mindset into what I do now. And that 814 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 4: was the one thing that's that's funny about this business. 815 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 4: When I got in this business, that was non existent, 816 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 4: you know, like like when I, you know, would work 817 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 4: with these old school car guys. It's like that the 818 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 4: car broke to you bad you know, like everybody kind 819 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: of had that attitude, like, man, how do you guys 820 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 4: get hired of the next job? You know, it shocked 821 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: me the lack of you know, customer service and you know, 822 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: I always look at the studio as your customer, and 823 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 4: you want to get repeat business, so you try to 824 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 4: do the best possibility you can so they call for 825 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 4: the next one. And uh So it's really I think 826 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: just one of those things that's you know, more of 827 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 4: a general you know, just I think the way people 828 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 4: should always be in life that I think has helped me, 829 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, excel in this business and you know, get 830 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 4: the job after the next job. 831 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 2: That's great advice, I mean, but don't be a part 832 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: of the problem. Be part of the solution. And anytime 833 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: anytime you and your your boys are on set, like 834 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: there's never any stress, I mean, or at least. 835 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,479 Speaker 3: The right exactly, try not to show the stress. 836 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 2: There's something that's gonna happen or something that is not working. 837 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: But everyone's like chill and everyone leans on you, Dennis, 838 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: like they're like, doesn't call Dennis, You'll figure it out. 839 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: You're right there. That's it. 840 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: That's the key though, It's just you know, try to 841 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 4: be a solution person, not a problem person, and and 842 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: just try to you know, not you know, make my 843 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 4: picture card, apartment problem or whatever. That issue is a 844 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 4: problem for production, you know, So that's always the goal. 845 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: If something happens, try to fix it, or they call 846 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 4: for the car, try to you know, try to make 847 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 4: a handle. 848 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 3: Then have a backup plan. In the backup plan. 849 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 4: But you know, like I said, it works ninety percent 850 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 4: of the time. But you know, sometimes you just plane 851 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 4: run out of cars. That's the way it is. 852 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: So yeah, do you feel like with you know CG 853 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,719 Speaker 2: and now with all this, you know, the special effects 854 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: that are happening with the volume and stuff, you think 855 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 2: car builds are going to be limited compared to what 856 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: they were when you started. I'm sure because when we 857 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 2: started talking drift, they would let me actually drive the cars. 858 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 2: I remember, which was great. I drove every single car. 859 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: They don't let you drive them anymore. We can't even 860 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: put them. 861 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 3: We can't even reverse the car. 862 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 4: Yeah right, exactly do you pull up there someone else 863 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 4: comes to back it into the spotroam. 864 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh that's so crazy. 865 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I get nervous because the CG. I mean, honestly, 866 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: if you go, like in the in the video games, 867 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 4: like I'll walk by my kids playing you know whatever, 868 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 4: you know, Grand Tarisma or whatever game they're playing. 869 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 3: It's like, are they watching something like that's a game? 870 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 4: You know, Everything's become so good it scares me because 871 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 4: you know, I think that at some point we don't 872 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 4: need cars, we don't need a stunt driver. Just you know, 873 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 4: draw it out, do a storyboard or whatever it is, 874 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 4: and do a pre visit. Yeah, do that, and then 875 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 4: it'll just show up on screen. So I don't know, 876 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: I think. I mean, like I said, we talked about 877 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 4: it before. I want to go to a movie where 878 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: I see cars doing car stunts and sliding around, and 879 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 4: you know, I love like French Connection, for instance, is 880 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 4: a great one. You know, car just sideswiping stuff, hitting stuff, 881 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 4: but real no CG. Which I guess is why I 882 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 4: always gravitate to these older movies when I'm looking for 883 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 4: a good car chase. But yeah, so I think you're 884 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 4: definitely onto something there. We could be in trouble. 885 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 3: So but people can tell the difference. 886 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: I mean, when you when you feel like you can, you. 887 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 2: Can they at one time there were they know we 888 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: don't need actors anymore. 889 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 3: But you can, you can definitely tell. 890 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 4: I just I'm just worried about five years from now, 891 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: you know, five years, can you tell? 892 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. 893 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just can't imagine even just sitting 894 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: with the green screen acting like you're inside the car like. 895 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure they do it now to a certain extent, 896 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: but I don't know. There's also that point of realism 897 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: that an actor wants to have to so they don't 898 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,720 Speaker 1: lose touch with connecting with the character in the moment. 899 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's I think, what's what helps you know, 900 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 4: you know, my cause or your cause, you know, for 901 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 4: realism would be behind the scenes videos that show how 902 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 4: a stunt is done. I think, Yeah, I think it's 903 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 4: really important because a lot of people don't realize. I mean, 904 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 4: for instance, you know Fast seven the cars coming out 905 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 4: of the plane. You know they're throwing cars out of 906 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: a plane. I mean it's with parachutes, you know. And 907 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 4: it was a I'll just tell you guys a real 908 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 4: funny story about that day. 909 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 3: I wasn't there. 910 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 4: I sent one of my guys, brad be even you 911 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: know Bright sent to send b rats be rad out 912 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 4: to Arizona for this whole you know plane deal, and 913 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 4: we had like maybe eight cars that we were gonna 914 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 4: you know, launch out of this airplane. 915 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: And it was completely real. 916 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 4: I mean they had the cars, they had the shoots, 917 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 4: they had everything, and one Camaro it was one of 918 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,800 Speaker 4: the sixty eight Camaros. 919 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 3: A shoot didn't open for some reason. 920 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 4: And uh, I mean pretty crazy to see a car 921 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 4: that drops out of the sky for a mile. 922 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 1: And did anyone capture it on video? 923 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 4: I don't think so. The landing was not caught on video. 924 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 4: I had the car the aftermath that my shot. But 925 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 4: then there was another one where they wanted to, you know, 926 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: launch a car. 927 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: I can't. 928 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 4: I think it was a charger, but they didn't have 929 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 4: time to pack the shoot because they were losing light. No, 930 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,959 Speaker 4: we just got to just sent a car we just built, 931 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 4: Like one of my favorite cars is like, we just 932 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 4: built this car. There's probably with it with labor and material. 933 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 4: There's probably one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand in 934 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 4: this off road charger and literally just chuck it out 935 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 4: of the plane. 936 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 3: We don't have time. 937 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, no, Brad, don't let them do it. Like 938 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 4: Brad's call me go, no, but you know, some of 939 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 4: those decisions are way above my head. So they just 940 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 4: they do it, you know, and we have to be. 941 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I get it. They have to do 942 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: it because they're like, but that car. 943 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 3: It's hard. 944 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 4: It's hard, you know, because I do love cars, but 945 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: so it's hard sometimes with these movies because you know, 946 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 4: to a studio or product, they're just expendable. 947 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, it's just in their car. Yeah, bring 948 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 3: it on the one up, you know. 949 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 2: So anyways, but because especially with Dom's chargers, that they're 950 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: these super rare cars now, I mean when you started 951 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: there were plentiful. 952 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I know it kills me because you know, 953 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 4: we used to wreck a car, scrap it, send it 954 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 4: to the scrapyard, and you know, today I'm spending twenty 955 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,720 Speaker 4: grand plus for some damage crash charger from nineteen seventy. 956 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 4: We've been working with, you know, a couple of different companies, 957 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,720 Speaker 4: Buddy Mind, Dave Selvagio last time built us complete carbon bodies. 958 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 4: So it's really ninety five percent. It's not a charger. 959 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: You know, there's some pieces that aren't made yet, but 960 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 4: I think next time around, but you know, like we'll 961 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 4: use like the factory firewall and eight pillar for the 962 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 4: door hinge mounts. You know, some of the sheet metal 963 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 4: towards the back of the car, but that's about it. 964 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 4: Everything else, quarters, roof doors, everything's carbon fiber. 965 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 3: But I'm hopefully in the next movie. 966 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 4: I really, I think we just have to have a 967 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 4: charge that we can build purely from the ground up 968 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 4: with no you know, no original car. 969 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 3: I mean literally, we're finding chargers out and so. 970 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 1: You're the reason I'm struggling to find one. 971 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. 972 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,960 Speaker 4: I think the Dukes of Hazzard still has us beat 973 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 4: on wrecking chargers. I don't think we've hit that number yet, 974 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 4: but but yeah, we definitely have destroyed our share, that's 975 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 4: for sure. 976 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,399 Speaker 2: It's been great insight to get to know you more, 977 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: get to know the man behind the cars, you know. 978 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 2: So thank you Dennis so much. 979 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 3: This has been so great. It was great to meet. Yeah, 980 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 3: totally appreciate me. Thank you.