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Speaker 1: Hello, abat your nation and welcome back about your happy hour.

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Speaker 2: We have a great one for you.

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Speaker 1: We've honestly we've been pumping this guy out so far.

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Speaker 1: He's he's, he's, he's been in my top four. We're

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Speaker 1: so happy to have him on.

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Speaker 2: Dotton.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: How you doing. I feel great, I feel grateful to

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Speaker 2: have this opportunity, So I thank you too. You guys

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Speaker 2: are crushing it. So yeah, I appreciate you putting in

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Speaker 2: the top four South and looking forward to this waiting

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Speaker 2: for this call. So and again, pleasure to meet both

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Speaker 2: of you guys, So so good, Bill nice, thank you.

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Speaker 3: We've been so excited to chat with you. So we're

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Speaker 3: happy to finally have you on this week. And we

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Speaker 3: feel like we've actually seen a lot of you in

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Speaker 3: your relationship so far this season. So there's a lot

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Speaker 3: to get into.

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Speaker 2: A lot, Yeah, a lot to get into.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about how you got on

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Speaker 1: the show. But first I'm in Uh, I'm in Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: You're you live in Brooklyn?

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Speaker 2: Right? I do Parks? So gay a nice? Nice? What's

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Speaker 2: uh what's your go to pizza out there? Well? I

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Speaker 2: mean there's an artichoke nearby that we always frequent on

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Speaker 2: those late nights where we don't want to get off

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Speaker 2: the couch. But I don't know. Joe's is solid. I

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Speaker 2: know it's cliche at this point, but it's just really

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Speaker 2: good and honestly, just like came from California and like,

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Speaker 2: I feel like all the pizza here is Nika. It's

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Speaker 2: really you're just kind of what do they call it

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Speaker 2: when you're like just barely making differences? There's a word

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Speaker 2: for I know, I.

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Speaker 4: Know what you're trying to think of, but I can't

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Speaker 4: think of what it is?

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Speaker 2: Like, what is it?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like a praise for it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there we go, There we go. Have you say too, Kelly.

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Speaker 2: That's been on my radar. I've had a few invites

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Speaker 2: his favorite spot. So Mike is in. Yeah, she has

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Speaker 2: like really close ties with that location, and so I've

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Speaker 2: can't wait to go. Is that your spot, Joe?

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Speaker 1: I mean to me that that's the best pizza in

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Speaker 1: the world. It's it's it is, It is my favorite.

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Speaker 4: I love it the world.

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Speaker 2: That's a you in the world.

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Speaker 4: What a declaration, I know.

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Speaker 2: Are you? Are you born in New York?

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Speaker 1: No, I'm actually born and raised in Chicago. I've only

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Speaker 1: been to I mean, I've been to New York a

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Speaker 1: almost like a year and a half.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you liking it? Yeah, I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a city guy, like I love the city.

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Speaker 1: I love the speed of it, I love love the

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Speaker 1: vibe like it's my favorite. So yeah, it's great. We gotta, uh,

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Speaker 1: we have to get together and have a drinks sometimes, because.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we should. We should all go to LOCALI please.

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Speaker 4: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it of that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about how how did

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Speaker 1: you get on the show?

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Speaker 2: It's a great question. Honestly, I got on like two

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Speaker 2: I didn't have time to think about it. But truly

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Speaker 2: it was seeing Charity at the at the Tel Home

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Speaker 2: I was looking at all these beautiful girls from Zach

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Speaker 2: This that morning i'd woken up, I was certain I

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Speaker 2: Her soul spoke to you.

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Speaker 3: Live the Beautiful on Oh my Gosh. But and I

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Speaker 3: will say, Joe, you've kind of said that when you

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Speaker 2: What happened on my season?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't give it much thought because I just

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Speaker 2: The both of you.

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Speaker 1: But wait, were so wait were you nominated or did

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Speaker 2: Like? How did how did that process go? Honestly like neither?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, so, this was two weeks before filming

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Speaker 2: My roommate thought of me, got it got a histrat.

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Speaker 3: I feel like with the show, like, even if you

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Speaker 2: Exactly that That's how I looked at it, like, even

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Speaker 2: Try to pursue this and then consider this. So as

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Speaker 2: big side of me that believes in like fate and

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Speaker 2: And I know that for me, some of the most

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Speaker 2: relate to that Joe a lot, and I actually relate

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Speaker 2: I would resident with this guy, Joe. He's just a

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Speaker 2: you had a similar stamps about with with your nown lines. Yeah, yeah, nice,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we definitely gotta We definitely got to hang out,

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Speaker 1: all right, So you know all these feelings you're having

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Speaker 4: What was that first night like for you?

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Speaker 2: It's not making sense initially, Like it's it's like you go,

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Speaker 3: Well, it's incredibly, incredibly overwhelming and overstimulating night one, especially

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Speaker 3: sure Joe canto to like having those first night nerves

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Speaker 2: Yeah? No, And obviously, you guys everyone's watched episode one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and for our listeners, that is that's the conversation

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Speaker 1: I do you when you you led the way Canada.

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Speaker 1: You guys, bungee job.

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Speaker 2: What the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Like me if I'm about to go on day and

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Speaker 2: Like how'd you feel?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 2: Was I into it?

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Speaker 2: Nice? Okay, No that was And you will see in

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Speaker 2: was like, hopefully, like the weather picks that up, Hopefully

436
00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,560
Speaker 2: something bad happened, and I don't have to do this

437
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,359
Speaker 2: because I'm not going to say no. I'm like a

438
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 2: little pride for and I'm also trying to be strong

439
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 2: for Charity. But I'm like, oh my god, I hope

440
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 2: that something makes this day go wrong and you just

441
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,440
Speaker 2: have to go back. But no, that didn't happen. Maybe

442
00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 2: rested on But once we did the Bundy jeff Man,

443
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: like you guys probably know, like coggering fears is one

444
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: of the most powerful feelings yeah world. And so to

445
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,719
Speaker 2: do that, and then to do that with Charity, who

446
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 2: also had a similar chair, it was a really special

447
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 2: moment that I truly will never forget. Truly so glad

448
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 2: I did it now in hindsight as always, but at

449
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 2: the time, oh my god, like the way if I

450
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 2: if you'll could feel my heart at that time, it

451
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: was so crazy.

452
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 3: Either Joe or I are like big like adrenaline junkie

453
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 3: heights risk people. So we were saying we feel like

454
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 3: we would have reacted to responded very very similar to

455
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,199
Speaker 3: how you and Charity did.

456
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 4: But I was dying when you guys were like, let's

457
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 4: do it again, Let's run it back, We're going a

458
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:52,320
Speaker 4: second time.

459
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 3: I was like they were literally both freaking out in

460
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 3: their interviews, like three minutes ago.

461
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 4: Now they're jumping again. This is crazy.

462
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: No, exactly like that. That was how powerful it was.

463
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: And it's funny because within the hour before jumping from

464
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: arriving to a jump beating, it was like halfway through

465
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 2: and I told Charity because she was like getting a

466
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: little worked dope, and I was like, listen, it's gonna

467
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 2: be so fun. We're gonna do it again. And I

468
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 2: was just toldly, kid, we're both no, she knew I

469
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 2: was kidding, and you like laughed and it made us

470
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: feel better in the moment a little bit. And then

471
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: just so fast forward to at the bottom of that jump,

472
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: having done it and out conforted. Once we just like

473
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 2: looked at each other and like we like knew immediately,

474
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 2: We're like we're gonna do it again, right, We're like, yeah,

475
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 2: let's do it, and so you know, then you just

476
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 2: got back on it and it was a really powerful

477
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: moment for us tree, Like I said, like that, it's

478
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: hard to like top the connection like that in that

479
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 2: moment when you're at the bottom of this thing that

480
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: you just would just die for the last hour of

481
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: doing and to do it together and to do it successfully.

482
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 2: And yeah, so we said, let's just try it again, baby,

483
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: like this, it's on our own turn. So right, we're

484
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,199
Speaker 2: not doing those scary stuff. That being said was he's

485
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: gone on the platform. You both immediately regretted it again,

486
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: but at that point we're too and he jumped off

487
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 2: and we did a little bit bigger at the second time,

488
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 2: and it was just a fun though.

489
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, I was I was hoping I was going

490
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: to feel that way after I skydived, But when I

491
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: got done, I literally said, this was not worth it.

492
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: I was a horrible experience. Take me to a restaurant.

493
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: I'm done. I hate this.

494
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 1: I know for a fact I will never do this

495
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: ship again.

496
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: Thank you. There is yes, I wouldn't be doing it

497
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: again like I would have it, but which was all

498
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: right there, I might do it again.

499
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 1: You know.

500
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: How stopped you in you'd be like, okay, I'll.

501
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 2: Jump, yeah exactly, you know, just kind of give it

502
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: the middle finger, you know, like.

503
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 3: Now you know what to expect, and you also probably

504
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 3: have some sort of fondness around the activity because it

505
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 3: ended up being such a pause experience for you and

506
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: Charity's relationship exactly.

507
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: It's coupled with something that's an extremely positive feeling, so

508
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 2: spot on exactly, probably why.

509
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: It's easier back, Yeah, whereas Joe won't be jumping out

510
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: of a food anytime soon, and neither will I.

511
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this like right now after and I would

512
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 1: say after this date, like you know, we could see

513
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: it as viewers. It seems like your relationships strong, Like

514
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: we're like, you know, you get the rolls and like,

515
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a shock to anyone. What are

516
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 1: your what are your thoughts right now on what's going

517
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: on with the other guys And mainly I guess, I

518
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: guess Braden has expressed like his doubts about the process

519
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: and every and everything, and like is there a part

520
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: of you that's kind of like agreeing with what he's saying,

521
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: And then like you know, is it is it messing.

522
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: You up in any way? Do you have any part

523
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: of it? With the braid and stuff, it was a

524
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: complicated situation in a way into like I understood a

525
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 2: lot of things that he was saying, but it doesn't

526
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: made it doesn't mean it makes it right, right, Like

527
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: for me, it was just taken away from the whole

528
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: point of being there. And I always tried to frame

529
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: the whole experience as you know, Charity's journey and like

530
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: try out to be self heute I'm making about me

531
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 2: or myself. Obviously as contestants, we all signed up to

532
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 2: have her date all of us each and so I

533
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 2: feel like there's a certain level of respect to that

534
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: process that it deserves and that the lead deserves, so

535
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: in this case Charity. And so for that reason, as

536
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: much as I understood the doubts, like of course you

537
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 2: have doubts, of course, like this stuff is scary, but

538
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: it's kind of like duh, So if you were going

539
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: to be just expressing this the whole time, that it's

540
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, like why are are you

541
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: kind of here to be honest? You know, And so

542
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: as as again, as much I think Brain's a dope guy,

543
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: like he's he's you know, love the guy, but yeah,

544
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: it just felt like maybe just it wasn't for him,

545
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: you know, it felt like the show wasn't why I'm

546
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: you know, considering what it entails. And so because of that,

547
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 2: it takes away from the guys who really do want

548
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,120
Speaker 2: to figure out if there's a connection and are leading

549
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: into it. And I think there's a difference. And I

550
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: think people are calling him like he's emotionally what do

551
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: they call it, not emotionally intelligent, and I think that's false.

552
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 2: I think he's actually really in tune with his emotions

553
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: as he expresses them quite often. Yeah, he lacks like

554
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: the emotional maturity, right, like there's a time in a

555
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 2: place and how to say things and how to voice

556
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: your opinion and taking the information, aggregating it and then

557
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: saying here's how I feel, right instead of just constantly

558
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: just throwing daggers blind hit the law. And so that's

559
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 2: what it felt like the greatest situation was that he

560
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,639
Speaker 2: was just kind of just a little too just not

561
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: very cautious with things he was saying. And that's gonna

562
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 2: again affect the show, will obseect that people ultimately affect charity.

563
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 2: So for those reasons that that, those those are the

564
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: graps I have braiding himself is not a bad guy.

565
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 2: He's a good guy and he's got a good heart,

566
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: but yeah, I just don't think Bachelor writers for him. Yeah,

567
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: I mean I couldn't agree more.

568
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 3: And that was Yeah, I think you said it perfectly

569
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: because you don't disagree with a lot of what he's

570
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: saying in his fears and concerns. It's just how vocal

571
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 3: he is about them, and the process is hard. Like

572
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: he's not wrong in that, but I just don't think

573
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 3: it was a fit for him.

574
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's like to take time, and

575
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 2: I think I don't know if this is true. One

576
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 2: off his fun facts. He doesn't like to meditate, and

577
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: like you should probably start to.

578
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 4: You should be meditating on what just happened on this shelf.

579
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: Literally, that's probably all you should be doing. So your

580
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 2: girls out out to discuss you about how they express

581
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 2: your emotions in a healthy way that is not like

582
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: and I come off manipulative or toxic, And like I said,

583
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 2: I don't think he's those things, but it can come

584
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 2: off like that next you know, which that leads into

585
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: the relationship. So yeah, that's all it is. Things, just

586
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: emotional Niturian.

587
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: Did you at any point consider bringing the issues with

588
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 3: it in and the men and the house to charity

589
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: or what was kind of your opinion on that. You

590
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: don't have to comment on the other guys if you

591
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: don't want to, But like your approach to the right

592
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 3: situation personally.

593
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 2: I mean my approach to the right situationine into a

594
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: life in general is like I don't do drama. I

595
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: don't think there's a lot of value in drama, so

596
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 2: generally I like to I think things fall into place

597
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: as they should and if they are so, I would

598
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: have never done that. I would have never My whole

599
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: goal was to just build our relationship that I had

600
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: a charity giving the time that I have, it's so limited.

601
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: I couldn't even fathom for a second. I think there's

602
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 2: a single time where you can mention any Yeah, no,

603
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: you don't, which is what I want.

604
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: That's why I like You're somebody who I'm watching. I'm like, yeah,

605
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: this guy, like, like you know what you're doing, Like

606
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,479
Speaker 1: you're there for a purpose, You're trying to see if

607
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: this is going to work, and you're focused. Like You're

608
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: one of the few guys who I'm like, I see

609
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: this with Joey too. He's another one where I'm like

610
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: these guys are just really focused on why they're there,

611
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: why they want to be there, and the goal not.

612
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: To consider charity a goal, but like the goal is

613
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: too fall in love.

614
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: So I mean, I personally I see that in you.

615
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 2: So I appreciate you also mentioning that, uh, charity's not

616
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: because people would be like, oh, like are you gonna win?

617
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: It's like it's not anything. This is like stressful, Like

618
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 2: you know, if you're looking at it in that frame,

619
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: that's insane. You know, like there's not a game like

620
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: it's it's really tough. As much fun as we're having

621
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: on these dates, it's a really tough process. And again

622
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: that's what Rating was expressing, which I understand. But there's

623
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 2: a way to sit with big emotions. I understand them.

624
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: And you know, if you want to go home and

625
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: it's not for you, then that's you know doing on

626
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: your own accoord. You know, like a man, whatever, go ahead,

627
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: and you know, take that step and and and leave

628
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: instead of like having this back and forth and kind

629
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: of sucking the air out of the road in a way,

630
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 2: so for me, I could never worry about, like speaking

631
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: to anybody else what rappens outside of that. It happens

632
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: that being said my I'm mad at Aaron Stitch. No,

633
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: it's not out of that. If anybody wants to go

634
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: snitch and this, I'm not gonna hold you back. I

635
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 2: going handle that. Go let her know that's cool with me.

636
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna sit back. Shit, just watch my wine

637
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: in my hand. But otherwise, yeah, I just don't know

638
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: if that's the best approach is to be talking about

639
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: other Like I said, I mean it, it's two months.

640
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: So if you talk about anyone for five minutes, you

641
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: just wasted a month on somebody else. Yeah, that you

642
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: spent on yourself and her getting you know you, and

643
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,239
Speaker 2: then if you just get you get coupled with that, right,

644
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: you get coupled with nine time I think of this person,

645
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking of this person instead of just thinking

646
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: of that person by themselves. So it just doesn't seem

647
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: wise to do that. So it was never my character

648
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: or my mindset to arror anything like that.

649
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: I'm just listening to how you're you're going about it,

650
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, yeah.

651
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: That's all.

652
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: So it all checks out as far as like what,

653
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: let's go lighter, like, like what guys are you close

654
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: with in the house, like who are your guys and

655
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: and and do you feel comfortable talking to them about

656
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: your relationship At this point.

657
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 2: I'm close with probably, I mean every other guys like artists,

658
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: got such a great time just about like there's not

659
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: a single guy that I can't say anything to. But

660
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: I see if I connect to the most, probably Canner

661
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: and Joey probably care because like I like him, are

662
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: with the most uh similarian in terms of like he's

663
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: kind of like he's not ever gonna really talk to

664
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: anybody else, you know, Like we were the guys like

665
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: any type. Someone did something said something like look at

666
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: each other. You know that you know that friend that

667
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: you always think I contacted someone does something stupid that

668
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: would be a tenner, And so we're both like really

669
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: live with life, but like have some time at least

670
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: I believe, have some type of convention. And so I

671
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: connected with him to the strongly throughout the while we

672
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: were there, And I would say Joey going back to

673
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: that intentionality, I mean, there's no one more intentional than Joey,

674
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 2: even like seeing how he looks at Charity, that's how

675
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: he looks at me too, and not in like a

676
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: weird older, but like he no, like in the best way,

677
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Like he's just so intentional and I love that. Like

678
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: that again is huge for me. I am not one

679
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: for small talk. I don't Jimmy don't like small talk

680
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: or like you know, talking about like what colorless guy is.

681
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: And but Joey Timmy time me talk. We got deep

682
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: talk about things didn't matter. And so yeah, Joey, Joey's

683
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: he's my brother. He's definitely my brother a big time.

684
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: And so obviously those are the two guys. And at

685
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: this point do I feel comfortable sharing my relationship. I

686
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: could if they asked, but I'm not again one to

687
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 2: ever go out and be like, hey, you're what we did? Generally,

688
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: I kept what I had under wraps, and I think

689
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: part of the reason was like out of respect for

690
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: charity and like the relationship that we have, but also

691
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: I didn't. Once again going back to people thinking like

692
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: this is a game, I can see what happens is

693
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: when people start talking about their dates and how it

694
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: went and what they liked about that person, and other

695
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: guys started to pick up and take notes, and they

696
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: start to alter their personality to fit that mold into

697
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: what the other person did to you know, WU charity

698
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: or whatever, and so I wanted her to have the

699
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 2: rawest parts of everybody, and that showed that she can

700
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: pick foot, you know, our urchin. And so for me,

701
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: I tried to keep everything I said or any any

702
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: of our interactions in our dates super under wraps, because

703
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: I don't want it's not for you to know, just

704
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: be yourself. It's like my favorite and again, it's thought

705
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: about winning. It's about her finding the person that's going

706
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: to be right for her. And so for those reasons,

707
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: I generally didn't really speak on our relationship. I just

708
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, eventually they see slowly Australia, right,

709
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: you get a group date rooms, it's like, what the

710
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 2: hell did this? What the hell is this guy? As

711
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: far as I do, I've only talk to at the

712
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: barbecue for like ten minutes, and then I had this

713
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,479
Speaker 2: like what how does this guy getting? So I think

714
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: eyebrows were raised, but I just kind of kept the

715
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 2: tie lived and kept it short and just had had

716
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: a great time anytime. So when asked again, I got

717
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: a respect for for Charity and her process.

718
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 4: I think that's a really good approach.

719
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: That's similar to the approach I took in the sense

720
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: I kept my relationship when I was on the show

721
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: very private. Anytime anyone tried to talk to me about

722
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: their relationship, and I was kind of like, la la,

723
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 3: la la la, like I don't want to know that,

724
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Like I don't need to know. It's okay, I'm not asking,

725
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: please don't tell me. And I do think that it's

726
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: very easy to start to feel a competitive nature in

727
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 3: that environment, especially when you're comparing your relationship to other

728
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: people's and when people are so openly talking. But I

729
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: think we're really seeing that with Braiden and Aaron b

730
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 3: They both seem quite vocal, especially Braiden. I think there's

731
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit of comparison going on there and

732
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: a little bit of competitive nature coming in.

733
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 4: And I think that the less you know about the

734
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 4: other people's.

735
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: Relationships something you know about yours, the easier it is

736
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: to just focus on you and your relationship, figure it

737
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: if that's going to work, and not worry.

738
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: About other people's.

739
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 2: Bingo, you nailed it. The comparison is a feature of joy, right,

740
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: and this show will make you compare even if you

741
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 2: don't want to. And so, like you said, people are

742
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: telling me about your days. Simple, I was doing the

743
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: same thing, you know, so I relate to you one

744
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: hundred percent, and that that you just don't want it

745
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: to affect you. And then also you get in your

746
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: head and then you're getting your showing size of yourself

747
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: you may or may not be for better. So for

748
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: those reasons, I just feel like the best approach something

749
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: like this, if you want to take it seriously, is

750
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 2: to just let relationships, you know, flow as they are

751
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: and just be yourself. And then I hope that if

752
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 2: you like that person, you know them at at the end.

753
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: So yeah, Or if you're Warwick, you know, you show

754
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 4: who you are and you realize there's no connection and

755
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 4: you go.

756
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: Home a little Warwick shout, what do we think about?

757
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 2: What would I love it so much? Oh my god?

758
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, unless you're that's a disregise. Work is going

759
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: to be fine. Trust me.

760
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: Warwick seemed absolutely fine, which I respect. You know, He's like,

761
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: this is me. I'm not really looking for a relationship.

762
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: I'm just doing my thing and there's no connection here

763
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go home. So it's if it's not

764
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: your person, it's okay to go home. That's that's the win.

765
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: You're not ending up with someone you're not meant to

766
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: end up with. And if you show who you are

767
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: and you end up with that person, then it was meant.

768
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: To be exactly what.

769
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: If you if you could tease the season without spoiling it,

770
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: let's hear it, and we're gonna play a quick game.

771
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 2: Okay, I can tease the season without spoiling it. Yeah,

772
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: just just I gven just feel like this is such

773
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: a good group of guys and I just want you

774
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 2: to tune in it.

775
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: All right.

776
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: I have one more really quick question that I've meant

777
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 3: to ask at the top before we get into this game.

778
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 3: How have your family and friends reacted to being on

779
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: the show and like washing it back so far? Oh?

780
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Overwhelmingly positive, which has been such a big shock to me. Again,

781
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Like to be honest, initially coming on here, there's a

782
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: bit of like imbars, you know, a little bit which

783
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: I'm hoping is natural. I'm hoping that's normal and it

784
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: doesn't turn to pole off. But yeah, you're just like,

785
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know, I want this TV show and I

786
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: didn't know anything about it obviously, and but going on

787
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: it and after being back and hearing how everyone's just

788
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: really loud and they're really they felt like I was

789
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: myself right, people were watching it and my friends are

790
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: challying like you're yourself. And so it's been overwhelming positive

791
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: because of that, and it's just super unexpected. So a

792
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: lot of support, a lot of luod. Yeah, and I'm

793
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: just so happy about everything and experiencing itself.

794
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 3: USh, that's great, great, all right, sorry to take us

795
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: off track. We got a game coming up.

796
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: Rapid Fire, rabid fire first and that comes to your mind,

797
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: let's say it.

798
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: You're ready? Yeah?

799
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: Are you with?

800
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 3: No?

801
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: What is the first thing you do when you wake up?

802
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Med? It's eight for ten minutes. That's good, it's good.

803
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: A wellness man.

804
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: How do you like your pizza, all meat, whatever? Whatever?

805
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: The all selection is. I'm getting that one, the pepperoni,

806
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: the ham, the thought, I'm getting that one. You're the

807
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: first guy.

808
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: You're the first guy that's been on the on the

809
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: show for this season that hasn't said pineapple. Really yeah,

810
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: every guy has said pineapple.

811
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: We were shocked too.

812
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: They're animals.

813
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: Best dating advice you have ever received?

814
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 2: A stating advice I ever received. Love is not always enough.

815
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: Okay, that is really good advice.

816
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 2: What is your go to cocktail? It's a great one,

817
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: say tiens, all right?

818
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: Who is your Who is one person living or not

819
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: that you would like to have dinner with?

820
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 2: Wild Lane? I'm a lie, I would say, I don't

821
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: know why by George Washington j whead So that's not

822
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: that light.

823
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 4: Are you a history person?

824
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: That's not. I don't know a lot of about a

825
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: George Washing I But you said the first thing that

826
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: comes to why, So yeah, first of it goes to

827
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: answer you're a George Washington guy? What what could he?

828
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: Will we say?

829
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: What is one word or phrase that your friends used

830
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: to describe you?

831
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Really empathetic? Do you have any bad habits? Restless light syndrome?

832
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 2: But I'm not diagnosed by a lot a lot?

833
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: What is your go to karaoke song?

834
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,479
Speaker 2: Girls just want to have fun?

835
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: And an astronaut costume with yellow exactly?

836
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I wish I added on I would put that thing.

837
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: Off of this whole airitew Oh my god, that would

838
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 1: have been amazing. What is your current screensaver photo on

839
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 1: your phone?

840
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: Oh? It is just nature rocks. That's the nature, right.

841
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: If you could visit anywhere in the world. Where would

842
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: you go? I would go to Antarctica? This is what

843
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: the hell's up there? Yeah?

844
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a that's actually I think, Serena, you

845
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: want to Antarctica.

846
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: Didn't you? No?

847
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: I did not, nor do I ever intend on going.

848
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: I went to Alaska, cruise of my family Alaska.

849
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, the warm weather goal.

850
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 2: There's been such people that have ever been to an Antica,

851
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: so it would be full to be what are those

852
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: people just for? All right?

853
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: Dont honestly, thank you so much. We really appreciate you

854
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: coming on and being open and honest with us and

855
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: to our listeners. Thank you so much for tuning in.

856
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 4: And don't forget.

857
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: New episodes of the Bocherrette air every Monday at nine

858
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: eighth Central on ABC and then they stream the next

859
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: day on Hullo.

860
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and make sure to tune in to new episodes

861
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: of Bachelor Happy Hour every week. We're going to have

862
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: some great guests on, guests from the current season, guests

863
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: from all over the place. We've got all kinds of

864
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: exclusive interviews coming up, so don't forget to subscribe.

865
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, Dot and again, it was such a pleasure

866
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: having you. Thank you everyone.

867
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 4: For listening and we will see you next time.

868
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody, all right, guys,