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Speaker 1: Boom, here it is. Here's your breaking news. Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: is going to the Atlanta Falcons. He is leaving Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He is going to Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley now has a deal with the Philadelphicles.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for next to no money because the Broncos

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Speaker 2: A massive deal for Christian Wilkins, who now lands with

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Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders. The Green Bay Packers are signing

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Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs.

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Speaker 3: The Andre Swift headed to the Chicago Bera.

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Speaker 2: Three years, twenty four million dollars for Tony Pollard and

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans.

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Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, it's Insiders Christmas Day, one of the

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Speaker 4: legal tampering period, as we close in on the official

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Speaker 4: start of a new league year on Wednesday, and yes

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Speaker 4: the moon. Ooh. We're hot and heavy across the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and we are here around the NFL to document everything

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Speaker 4: that's happened as of four forty pm Eastern Standard time,

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Speaker 4: and we'll continue to track things as we record this show.

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Speaker 4: And like we said, we'll be doing shows all week.

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Speaker 4: So everything you need to know about this big week

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Speaker 4: on the lead calendar. We got you. Dan Hands is here,

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Speaker 4: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, and here we go, Here we go, boys.

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Speaker 4: It has started, and it is a frenzy as NFL

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Speaker 5: I don't even know if we need to do a

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Speaker 5: show after that intro. We spoiled it all that. That's it,

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Speaker 5: that's it right there, Give me those bass drums and

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Speaker 5: maybe we'll just just dance.

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Speaker 6: I thought that, you know, by doing an extra show yesterday,

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Speaker 6: which we do we did not plan to do out

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Speaker 6: of the gate, we helped ourselves that we maybe you know,

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Speaker 6: it is a bushel of frenzy, a tornado of news items.

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Speaker 5: I feel blinded.

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Speaker 6: I'm just sitting in my hotel room getting whip sawed

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Speaker 6: by the news coming Van.

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Speaker 5: Ginkle in that opening credit. Some say that's a shot.

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Speaker 5: It's a shot at Ben Ginkle, But you know what

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Speaker 5: he's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Do with that. Look at it this way. Mark. If

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Speaker 4: we didn't do it Sunday, surprise up, we're looking at

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Speaker 4: a killers of the flower Moon length show today Monday.

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Speaker 4: So we did take care of business and we got

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Speaker 4: ahead of it as best we could. But let's get

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Speaker 4: into it and yeah, the big move and you heard

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Speaker 4: it there off the bat was Kirk Cousins, and you

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Speaker 4: knew Cousins was gonna get paid handsomely. That's what Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins does. You also knew.

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Speaker 5: Some balloons coming up in your room.

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Speaker 4: What just happened where the balloons just went up on

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's beautiful. We're just trying to get people

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Speaker 5: to check out the YouTube. It's wonderful. I have no

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Speaker 5: idea why that would have happened. I think Randy is

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Speaker 4: I know your team made a lateral move at running

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Speaker 4: be you know, not taking this serious. Gravitas is the

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Speaker 4: order of the day. As we get into the Kirk

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Speaker 4: Cousins conversation after a run in Minnesota that featured a

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Speaker 4: ton of production, not a lot of playoff success, but

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Speaker 4: on balance, Cousins, again, over his time with the Vikings,

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Speaker 4: just like in his run with Washington, proved himself to

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Speaker 4: legal tappering period. He does, and it's from the Atlanta Falcons,

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Speaker 4: who agreed to a four year, one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 4: all the insiders there. So Cousins finally brings some legitimacy

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Speaker 4: has been making incremental progress in the last couple of years,

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Speaker 4: but it was always the quarterback that was holding them back.

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Speaker 4: And while Cousins is not so far in his career

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Speaker 4: a no brainer move I think for the Falcons.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it made sense for all sides, which

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Speaker 5: I think the time ended in Minnesota.

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Speaker 6: And you can tell that they're team building in a

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Speaker 6: like they have to find a quarterback. But I love

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Speaker 6: the landing spot in Atlanta. I think that Cousins, you know,

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Speaker 6: he is thirty six, but if you get just three

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Speaker 6: a year ago, everything would have been different. I think

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Speaker 6: for guys like Drake London, this is a level beyond

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Speaker 6: It's great for Bejeon Robinson. You've got Zach Robinson. I

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Speaker 6: Lands has he came in saying we want to do this.

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Speaker 6: And I really love it Falcons fans because I think

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Speaker 6: it changes that division entirely. And it's like you plug

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Speaker 4: The Falcons ranked twenty six than points per game last year,

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Speaker 4: We'll see, But there's pieces Greg. That's the reason why,

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Speaker 5: Does, like probably, but they're totally different now. You know,

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Speaker 5: their defense was overrated last year. They were good in

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Speaker 5: Rahim Morris as a higher We'll see how that works out,

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Speaker 5: like I think it'll work out, but it's a new offense.

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Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins fits well in this offense. Drake London is

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Speaker 5: a good number one? Is he a great number one?

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Speaker 5: Like we'll see. He's a nice guy to have pits

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Speaker 5: Kyle Pitts is gonna be awesome now. Kirk Cousins is

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Speaker 5: I get to you, Mark, I do want to mention,

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Speaker 5: they got to give up ten million dollars. But teams

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Speaker 5: little gap between like the Daniel Joneses and the Kirk

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Speaker 6: So when you say like they like it's a different

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Speaker 6: the best option. It comes with some risk. You could

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Speaker 6: also argue that Kirk Cousins was already surrounded by a

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Speaker 6: so it's not like he's going from rags to riches.

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Speaker 6: But if you're the Falcons, it's like, this was the prize.

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Speaker 4: the board. He over in the middle of the night

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Speaker 4: Mark who is a depreciated asset. But again, and you

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Speaker 6: I think I don't have a problem financially with taking

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Speaker 6: It is like two magnets on your fridge that you

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Speaker 5: Right, Because that announcement is kind of like, Hey, Russell

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Speaker 6: you of this. It's just like it's just the way

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Speaker 6: that like a player and a team would not fit

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Speaker 6: to a sports fan. I find it to be like

436
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Speaker 6: the the ot it's not the fit that I would

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Speaker 6: have picked.

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Speaker 4: You don't want to convinced me. I was just more curious,

439
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Speaker 4: what what you mean?

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Speaker 6: It just strikes me as like I think they'll I

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Speaker 6: kind of surprised Mike Tomlin did it. To be honest,

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Speaker 6: I seem like a Mike Tomlin guy.

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Speaker 4: What I do agree with what I think maybe was

444
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Speaker 4: you that said a last week or earlier this week,

445
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Speaker 4: was that he doesn't seem like a guy that would

446
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Speaker 4: handle being the number two very well. But I don't

447
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Speaker 4: think that's what he's there to do because so but

448
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Speaker 4: if if he is someone that's going to get supplanted.

449
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Speaker 4: You even mentioned Greg he might not make the team.

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Speaker 4: I just, yeah, we're kind of in different places on Wilson,

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Speaker 4: and maybe that's why this we're I was saying that

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Speaker 4: last night in the cab, Like Wilson is such great

453
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Speaker 4: catnip for like podcasters and people talking football because he

454
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Speaker 4: there's just he creates so many different like conversation points,

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Speaker 4: even as his play has come down.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, to be clear, like I think that the most

457
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Speaker 5: likely outcome is he's their Week one starter, but he's

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Speaker 5: a thirty six year old entering a new system, and

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Speaker 5: I've just we've just seen this enough that there are

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Speaker 5: many potential outcomes and the fact that they have nothing

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Speaker 5: invested in, you know, financially in him to me, in

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Speaker 5: the fact that he might be like a bad backup

463
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Speaker 5: and and maybe there's too much like suggests to me

464
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Speaker 5: like there's a chance here that it just goes poorly then,

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Speaker 5: you know, on the other hand, like he is the

466
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Speaker 5: most big ben like quarterback in the entire NFL. They're

467
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Speaker 5: both divas in totally different ways. They're both very tough physically.

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Speaker 5: They both have been knocked for being maybe like a

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Speaker 5: little limited in terms of like reading the defenses early

470
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Speaker 5: in their career, but you know they can make some play.

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Speaker 5: So who knows. Maybe he's he's the like thirty six

472
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Speaker 5: year old version of Big Ben, which was, by the way,

473
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Speaker 5: still pretty good.

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Speaker 6: We can agree on one thing, though, Dan, I think

475
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Speaker 6: that you know, like in that cab late at night,

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Speaker 6: you coined this the russ belt, you know, lexicon this tag,

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Speaker 6: and I think it's gonna I think it's I think

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Speaker 6: it's gonna grow.

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Speaker 5: Well, it's gonna grow.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we want to, yeah, the curtain

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Speaker 4: on that one, if we want to pull it back

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Speaker 4: or not. But as people know, Mark has retired from

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Speaker 4: Twitter abruptly with a flaming screed against the analytics community

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Speaker 4: and then a a sign off and a wishing well

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Speaker 4: of all of us. It doesn't mean Marks out of

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Speaker 4: the business as a guy that can punch up some scripts.

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Speaker 4: Just leave it at that.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think I think we're we're hoping the Russell

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Speaker 5: Wilson era just for content just has like a little

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Speaker 5: more pop than the russ Belt tweet got because we

491
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Speaker 5: were we had very high hopes. We had high hopes

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Speaker 5: that what kind of numbers that would do Dan even

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Speaker 5: added at Steelers at NFL.

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Speaker 4: That's just that's called tagging, and that that typically leads

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Speaker 4: to further engagement. I was also catching some flak in

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Speaker 4: the are you able to pull up this tweet by

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Speaker 4: any chance? Eric Roberts on short notice? I was also

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Speaker 4: catching some flak about the photo that I chose, which, well,

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Speaker 4: what needs to be understood. We're in a uber going

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Speaker 4: from one establishment to another last night, and the news

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Speaker 4: breaks and the idea is, you know, in the car.

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Speaker 4: I'm not going to say where it came from because

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Speaker 4: certain members of our podcast do not tweet anymore. But

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Speaker 4: someone had mentioned, oh man, rust Belt and you know

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Speaker 4: rust Belt to do your research on the region in

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Speaker 4: western PA. And I at that point I'm scrambling. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I got to get this up. We got to beat

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Speaker 4: to market the competition rust belt as a catchphrase. So

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Speaker 4: I pulled up the first photo. But I'm being told

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Speaker 4: that the photo wasn't good enough. But the engagement's okay,

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Speaker 4: so fuzzy in the Broncos thing. Yeah, you can watch

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Speaker 4: it on the on the YouTube now, you know, I

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Speaker 4: think you.

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Speaker 6: Were told by our actual like social team that wanted to,

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Speaker 6: you know, elevate it and said you've picked.

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Speaker 5: The wrong.

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Speaker 4: Not bad engagement over seventy thousand.

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Speaker 5: Catty, it's catchy, it'll be I think it could take time,

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Speaker 5: but I, like I said, then, I think it's possible.

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Speaker 5: Al Michaels will be welcoming us the Thursday night football

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Speaker 5: in week eight.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to the rust Belt and it's got on. Did

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Speaker 4: you know that Russell Wilson this I was reading Barnwell

524
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Speaker 4: today as everyone must ranked twenty first in QBR last season,

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Speaker 4: which was one spot behind Joe Burrow. Wasn't that bad

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Speaker 4: last year? I mean twenty first is bad though, Like yeah,

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Speaker 4: but like go check where Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph

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Speaker 4: and every other JABBRONI playing in Pittsburgh was.

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Speaker 5: You don't want to look at Mason Rudolph because he'll

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Speaker 5: look like he's Joe Montana. I mean he is.

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Speaker 6: There's also like a couple incredible numbers about his season,

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Speaker 6: because like we've argued about, like his numbers look good

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Speaker 6: if you just like to looked at a box if

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Speaker 6: you landed on Earth and looked at his box score,

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Speaker 6: but for the year, but like like sixty two percent

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Speaker 6: of his passes came within five yards of the line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage.

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Speaker 5: That's like, that's I played. I mean, that's he doesn't

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Speaker 5: get that's a corner offense. Fron Dayton coming with him.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're just getting started here. By the way,

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Speaker 4: I have NFL plus up on the secondary screen to

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Speaker 4: be ready with any breaking news. But let's take a break.

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Speaker 4: So quarterback news done. We're gonna dig into the running

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Speaker 4: back rooms of teams in next and it is interesting

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Speaker 4: there because there's some big names. Not a hot draft class.

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Speaker 4: So stay right there and we're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 4: All right, we are back. Let's get to the running

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Speaker 4: back situation. Like I said, a lot of big names

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Speaker 4: out there, and I guess, with some surprise, a lot

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Speaker 4: of them came flying off the board on the first

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Speaker 4: day of the legal tampering period. Let's start with Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 4: who goes from the New York Giants to the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 4: And I could tell you, I could tell you, as

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Speaker 4: someone who has a lot of fans of friends who

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Speaker 4: are Giants fans, this one hurt. Saquon from the Giants

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Speaker 4: to the rival Eagles, stays in the division twenty six

557
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Speaker 4: million guaranteed on a three year, thirty seven million dollar contract.

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Speaker 4: So the Eagles had a big day in general, but

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Speaker 4: let's start with Saquon. Who goes there gets nice money.

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Speaker 5: I love that the kind of analytically driven Eagles. Maybe

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Speaker 5: the team that's most associated with the numbers over the

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Speaker 5: last ten years are the team that gives Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 5: the contract, because that's the thing with moneyball, It's all

564
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Speaker 5: just about, like what the markets are saying. At a

565
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Speaker 5: certain point, running backs have become so devalued that now

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Speaker 5: it's come back around, and a guy like Saquon Barkley

567
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Speaker 5: actually is worth quite a bit. If you compare his salary,

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Speaker 5: for instance, versus like Gabe Davis today, you could make

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Speaker 5: an argument I'd rather have Gabe Davis. I think the

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Speaker 5: Eagles rightly made an argument. This is a guy who

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Speaker 5: can play all three downs for us and supercharger running

572
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Speaker 5: attack that already was great to like a totally different level,

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Speaker 5: and they didn't. I know, it sounds like it's a

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Speaker 5: lot of money, but it's really not much more than

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Speaker 5: the types of offers I think the Giants were giving

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Speaker 5: him over the last couple of years. That he just

577
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Speaker 5: didn't want, I think, from the New York Giants, which

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Speaker 5: is crazy. He's getting in a better situation, certainly a

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Speaker 5: better offensive line, but he basically only got two years guaranteed,

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Speaker 5: and it makes this offense crazy, Like, look for explosive

581
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Speaker 5: difference making ability at any position and don't close your

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Speaker 5: eyes to it just because you're the Eagles and you're

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Speaker 5: not supposed to like like high paid running backs. Totally agree.

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Speaker 6: I think if you're right now listening to wfan out

585
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Speaker 6: in the Tri State area, this is psychological warfare because

586
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Speaker 6: this is a team the Eagles that stole James Bradbury

587
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Speaker 6: away from the Giants when they couldn't figure out what

588
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Speaker 6: to do with James Bradbury and the Giants for you know,

589
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Speaker 6: six hundred days, couldn't figure out how to solve their

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Speaker 6: issues with Saquon Barkley last year they franchised them. The

591
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Speaker 6: season's a completely lost cause. The Giants look directionless right now.

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Speaker 6: The Eagles swoop in take you know, the star running

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Speaker 6: back away from New York and they play them twice

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Speaker 6: a year. This is juicy, Like, this is the kind

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Speaker 6: of stuff when I tend to think that maybe the

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Speaker 6: NFL is like just a deep scripted operation that you

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Speaker 6: know is basically a chapter by chapter drama like this

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Speaker 6: is this? This fits right because now the Eagles have

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Speaker 6: taken Saquon Barkley away from the Giants. I can see

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Speaker 6: them playing each other in Week one and it's everything

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Speaker 6: you'd ever want from the NFC East revenge game.

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Speaker 4: I love that for the ex Yeah, that's that's true, Greg.

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Speaker 4: The Eagles also take another player from New York. Bryce

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Speaker 4: Huff of the Jets goes to the Eagles on a

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Speaker 4: three year deal and he gets good money too, Greg,

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Speaker 4: So that you know, we talked about Huff, who is

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Speaker 4: has incredible pass rush production. He led the Jets with

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Speaker 4: ten and a half sacks and that despite being a

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Speaker 4: part time player, I think he played about forty two

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Speaker 4: percent of the snap So the Eagles projected that he

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Speaker 4: can play more than that. That they for the money

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Speaker 4: that they're paying and some other moves that they're making

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Speaker 4: on their defense, they're going to have a role for

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Speaker 4: him and we'll see if they try to turn them

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Speaker 4: into the player the Jets didn't quite think he was.

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Speaker 4: But as a Jets van, you're you're afraid you let

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Speaker 4: a star out the door.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, fifty million dollars over three years. Like he's not

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Speaker 5: a run stopper. I think in their defense, they're not

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Speaker 5: going to really worry about that that much.

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Speaker 4: They don't.

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Speaker 5: He reminds me a lot of as on Reddick, which

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Speaker 5: makes me think a son Reddick is not going to

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Speaker 5: be on the Eagles. Both him and Josh Sweat have

625
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Speaker 5: been reportedly on the trade block, and you figure one,

626
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Speaker 5: if not both of them are gonna get dealt. And

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Speaker 5: to me, he's the more one to one comparison with Reddick,

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Speaker 5: just a guy who younger in his career maybe didn't

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Speaker 5: take advantage. And the Eagles have a good history of

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Speaker 5: doing this, finding these guys who have just pure pass

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Speaker 5: rush and getting great production out of them. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're we said it coming into the week. They're not

633
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Speaker 5: gonna be done yet. They also gave Lannon Dickerson eighty

634
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Speaker 5: seven million dollars, including fifty million guaranteed their guard. Like

635
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Speaker 5: that's a contract actually that I think he'll see the

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Speaker 5: whole deal. But he's one of the best guards in

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Speaker 5: the NFL, getting twenty million dollars a year, And like

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Speaker 5: you think about that offense with Saquon too, Like that's

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Speaker 5: a fantasy football offense. J Parson, like Devonte Smith, Dallas

640
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Speaker 5: gotter In Berkley, and just they just want their defense

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Speaker 5: to be good enough.

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Speaker 4: I think is the ideot.

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Speaker 6: I think the Reddic comparison is right on because there's

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Speaker 6: numbers that you know, came out after the signing were

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Speaker 6: like Reddick played four hundred more snaps than Huff, eleven

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Speaker 6: sacks for Reddick, ten for Huff, thirteen tackles for loss

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Speaker 6: for Redick, ten for Huff. It's like the Eagles a

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Speaker 6: week ago looked like a malign team, a bit of

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Speaker 6: a talking point, and it's like they always find a

650
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 6: way in the offseason to figure it out, and I

651
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 6: think they found this one player that we've all looked at.

652
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 6: It's like, if you can turn Huff into like a

653
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 6: full time devastator, you've done something that not that the

654
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 6: Jets couldn't do, but they didn't do last year, and

655
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 6: you've taken you've taken something away from the Jets.

656
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: So and the Jets they made the they were never

657
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 4: they never seriously negotiated with him. So they this I

658
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 4: think goes back a lot to their move to take

659
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: Will McDonald fifteenth overall last year, and sometimes you could

660
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: box yourself in with some of your decisions because you

661
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 4: took you have Huff, who's a homegrown guy, who's an

662
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: undrafted player, and you turn him into a guy that was,

663
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 4: you know, a real breakout player, and you let him

664
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 4: go in free agency because you have so much invested

665
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 4: now as a draft pick. And Will McDonald I wonder

666
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 4: if they could do it all over again, and if

667
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 4: they knew that Huff was going to make the leap

668
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 4: that he made this year, if they would have made

669
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 4: a different move in last year's draft. What else? What else?

670
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 6: I've noticed that we are in these hotel rooms. We

671
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 6: each have the same painting on the wall, which is

672
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: i'd say slightly uncreative on behalf of the hotel. It's

673
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 6: a nice hotel. Not complaining about the hotel, but could

674
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 6: have done a little more there.

675
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, they also didn't expect three bozos to be

676
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 4: recording and showing the three hotel rooms. I asked them

677
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: one more point. You're not going to get me because

678
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: I know the Eagles will now have an amazing draft

679
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 4: because Howie's the man. Everything else is still that was

680
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 4: a problem. At the end of the year. The head

681
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: coach is still there. The quarterback is still there, and

682
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 4: I know he's very talented, but the locker room seemed

683
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: like i'm and he played a role in that as well.

684
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 4: In my opinion, AJ Brown right now is still there

685
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 4: and he was moping by the end of the year.

686
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like before we look at them as

687
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 4: an all star team, Remember this was a team that

688
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: was in chaos by the end of last year and

689
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 4: they didn't exactly clean house, and in fact, they've lost

690
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 4: you know, in the center Kelsey. We also had a

691
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: retirement of Fletcher Cox, some leaders out out the door.

692
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: So to me, they're still a little wait and see

693
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: how next season begins. I just don't have that as

694
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 4: a no.

695
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 5: I think that's fair. But you know what I like

696
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 5: is they deliver. Like the free agency year starts and

697
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 5: it's like, hey, we're going to sign the guy, the

698
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: hot shot pass rusher that we're going to take a

699
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 5: big chance on. Hey we're gonna sign Saquon Barkley. We'll

700
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 5: keep our own guy in Landon Dickersonto. It like what

701
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 5: we'll bring back Brandon Grahm. It's like they're always doing stuff.

702
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: And then that's to me, howie, mother, that's fair.

703
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: The Packers are doing stuff too, So Aaron Jones and

704
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: aj Dillon have been there combo the last few years.

705
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 4: It's a good guy. Has been a good combo. Now

706
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: that slowed down a little bit last year. Dylan wasn't

707
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: quite where he was and he's walking as a free agent.

708
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: Aaron Jones is still a productive player, but he's injuries

709
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: have been an issue for him and he missed a

710
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 4: lot of last year. So the Packers, having some extra

711
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: money to spend now that they have a quarterback on

712
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: a rookie contract in Jordan Love, decided to go get

713
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs. So the Raiders, who had tried made an

714
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 4: effort to keep Raiders to keep their running back and

715
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: the rushing champion last year. Ultimately, though, the Packers went

716
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: harder for him and they land Jacobs, and in a

717
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 4: corresponding move, they release Aaron Jones. So now they essentially

718
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 4: swap out, as they kind of alluded to at the

719
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 4: beginning of the show, they swap out Jones for Jacobs.

720
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 4: I don't know if it makes them a better team,

721
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 4: to be quite honest with you, but they do, so,

722
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 4: you know, good luck to them. I don't know.

723
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 6: I think like Jacobs is when you get the good

724
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 6: version of Jacobs, a violent, easy to watch runner, and

725
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 6: if you get that version in Green Bay, that fits

726
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 6: very well. Aaron Jones was incredibly important to them when

727
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: he was on the field last year. And I'm kind

728
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 6: of with you, Dan, like, it's not that it's apples

729
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: for apples, but a healthy Aaron Jones personally, I would

730
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 6: take over Jacob's But that's just me.

731
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: Greg.

732
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: Maybe you totally disagree. I don't know. No, Actually I

733
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 5: agree with you. I think he's getting up there. He's

734
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 5: twenty nine. He hasn't been able to stay on the

735
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 5: field as much. You know, that's been a little bit

736
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 5: of an issue for Jacobs too, who's like on one

737
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 5: year off. I think all things being equal, Aaron Jones

738
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 5: is better. I think they went into the day and

739
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 5: even signing Jacobs with the possibility that they'd have them both,

740
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 5: but they he was paid so much money Aaron Jones

741
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: that I think they just felt that was out of bounds,

742
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 5: and they had a number where they said, like, if

743
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 5: you take a pay cut down to eight million dollars something,

744
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: I'm just throwing a number out there, then we'll keep you,

745
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 5: and we'll keep both. And so it wouldn't surprise me

746
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 5: if they get in the running back market, whether it's

747
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 5: the draft or another free agent. But they just decided

748
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 5: he was getting paid too much. And Jacobs is three

749
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: years younger, and so I guess that that's a big

750
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 5: deal too.

751
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you get twenty twenty two Josh Jacobs, the

752
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: steel is gonna look amazing. He's been great every other

753
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: year and like kind of curious the other years, and

754
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: you mean like every other year.

755
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 5: Yes, So now this is supposed to be a good

756
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 5: This should be a good year for Josh Jacobs, so other.

757
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: Times seems if that's what they were using internally, is

758
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: their compass on this. I'm concerned about the Packers. They

759
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 4: also speaking of the Giants, fans and the dumps. Xavier

760
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 4: McKinney safety. He lands with the Packers on a four year,

761
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 4: sixty eight million dollar deal. So that's a lot of money.

762
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: It's a lot of scratch, a lot of guap for McKinny.

763
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: But that's a defense in the post Joe Barry world

764
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: that you know, needed some reinforcements in the back end,

765
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: and McKinney can deliver that.

766
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: We just talked to Mina and she talked about the

767
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 6: fact that, like the Packers, and we all agree that

768
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 6: it seems like for Ages, they threw a ton of

769
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 6: money and draft picks at safety and it kind of

770
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 6: never worked. And like he's only twenty four years old, Like,

771
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 6: and I thought this was a player the Giants in

772
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 6: another universe might have franchised tagged when they didn't ha Saquon,

773
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 6: and they didn't, and they've lost two players, And I

774
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 6: think the Packers like added a piece to their defense,

775
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:07,879
Speaker 6: someone who can be around for a long time based

776
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 6: on his age and his skill.

777
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 5: I love McKinney. I had him really high in the

778
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 5: top one oh one, and he got paid because multiple

779
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 5: teams were after I forget who the third team was,

780
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 5: but I know the Eagles were in on him. There

781
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 5: was even a report earlier in the day that they

782
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: were going to close that deal, and so that market

783
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: went like very high for Xavier McKinney. But he is

784
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 5: a good young player in that defense in that secondary's

785
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: been a nightmare.

786
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 4: All right. Here are the other running back deals that

787
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 4: have gone down. DeAndre Swift, So the Eagles decide to

788
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 4: get Barkley, so Swift goes out the door and he

789
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 4: lands with the Bears. So he had a nice season,

790
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 4: I thought after leaving Detroit and now Chicago, as they

791
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 4: retool their offense, most likely with a new quarterback as well,

792
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: they add a playmaker and a guy that can make

793
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 4: plays as a rusher and receiver. The Titans, they bring

794
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: in former Cowboys running back Tony Pollard. So Pollard coming

795
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: off a disappointing season in Dallas where he became the

796
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 4: Bell cow back and it didn't really take. So now

797
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: he lands with the Titans. And the Titans also needed

798
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: offensive line help and they get it in center Lloyd Cushionberry,

799
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 4: formerly of the Broncos. So they get a new running

800
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 4: back and a new center. And by the way, if

801
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: Pollard is their running back, now that means Derrick Henry is,

802
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 4: which we kind of expected, is going somewhere else and

803
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 4: now just we're waiting to see. I have a few

804
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: I have a really strong feeling about where he's gonna land.

805
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 4: Maybe at the end of the show we'll each share

806
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: a prediction. Going into day two ahead of the new

807
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: league year, Gus Edwards lands with the Chargers and the Giants.

808
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 4: By the way, do signed a Devin Singletary according to reports.

809
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 4: So that's a slew of running back moves.

810
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: You guys got anything, Yeah, Pollard in taj Spears is

811
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 5: a fun backfield. I think people were a little hard

812
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 5: on Pollard coming off of a broken angle, But I

813
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 5: also think that they view Pollard as a one. B

814
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: in Tajy Spears is probably their one on A and

815
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 5: that I'm just a little surprised how quickly all these

816
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 5: guys came off the market, but that when people were

817
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 5: getting all excited to be like, oh, the running back

818
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 5: market is back, like it's a real thing. It's like, Okay,

819
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 5: they're getting paid like the same as a fairly low

820
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 5: level guard low or about half as much as like

821
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: a slightly above average guards, and they're getting paid the

822
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 5: same as like defensive you know, dotation.

823
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 4: They've been prioritized on the beginning first day of free

824
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 4: age two, which is kind of different than the past,

825
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: it is, and.

826
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: They're making more money than they were a year or

827
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 5: two ago. To be clear, DeAndre Swift people will will

828
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 5: probably forget this the minute this happens, but he will

829
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: always be the first player signed during the legal tamporeine period.

830
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 5: So congratulations to DeAndre Swift and the Chicago Bears.

831
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: I think we used to do sandwiches on that. We

832
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 4: used to take predictions, which is one of the dumber

833
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: things because it's not you know, we don't have an

834
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: official time stamp on these things.

835
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 6: But I like, I watched this running back market and

836
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 6: for me, it's the holes that creates an dan. I

837
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 6: I won't steal your thunder about the Dereck Henry landing spot,

838
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 6: but there are a couple teams out there that have

839
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 6: like absolute nothingness at running back right now after these moves,

840
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,399
Speaker 6: and I still think Derrick Henry is the best back

841
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 6: of every one of these players. I like him more

842
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 6: than Saquon I like him more than Josh Jacobs. I

843
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 6: like him more than Aaron Jones. I just do I know.

844
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 6: I get the age, I get the mileage, but it's

845
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 6: like I cannot wait to see where he lands. I

846
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 6: think he's going to be also quite agitated with the

847
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 6: fact that he's like the eighth running back to go

848
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 6: off the board here. He's going to devastate someone and

849
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 6: destroy someone come September.

850
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 5: It's also funny that the Harba's are now sharing players,

851
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: they share coaches, but like Gus Edward is. The first

852
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 5: thing he does is go from John to Jim Harbab

853
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 5: because Greg Roman is over there, and it's bizarre that

854
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 5: that's the move the Chargers made today. I do think

855
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 5: we're gonna get some trades, as we talked about, but

856
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 5: that'll be later in the week.

857
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 4: I'm not going to hit the breaking news on this,

858
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 4: but the Giants and their fans could use some good news.

859
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: There's something floating out there right now, but let's wait

860
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 4: until we hear it from our guys in other news.

861
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 4: So we mentioned that the Raiders go and they get

862
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: Gardner Minshew and we'll see where he fits at the

863
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: end of the day in their quarterback room. But they

864
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 4: make a huge move mark on their defensive line, adding

865
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins, formerly of the Dolphins, for one hundred and

866
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: ten million, almost eighty five of that guaranteed a lot

867
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: of guaranteed money being doled out to these big time players.

868
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 4: So this is a huge move for the Raiders, a

869
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 4: team that seems to be acting in what you hear

870
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 4: from the coach's doing a lot of talking. He's like

871
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 4: they think they're closer than other people might think. But

872
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: there's no denying that Wilkins is a big time talent

873
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 4: in the middle. Is going to tag team with Max

874
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: Crosby on one of the best combos of any team

875
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:52,479
Speaker 4: up front in the league.

876
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean Max Crosby having to do it alone,

877
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 6: not onlike a Miles Garrett in years past. Before this

878
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 6: past season, Eveland still wrecking people. And the idea of

879
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 6: Wilkins in Max Crosby together is gives you, if you're

880
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 6: Antonio Pierce, an identity and I think that you're that's

881
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 6: a defensive coach. You suddenly the Raiders defense. You've got

882
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 6: to plan for Wilkins. I think if you want to

883
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 6: find a player like him, you would have had to

884
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 6: use your first round pick to get a player like him.

885
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 6: I'm not even sure there's a player in the draft

886
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 6: like him. You might have to go years till you

887
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 6: find someone like him. So the money's worth it. These

888
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 6: are rare players, and I think if you're I for me,

889
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 6: I know, even in the last couple of weeks, I've

890
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 6: been killing the idea of like a Chris Jones going

891
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 6: to a lost team or do we just don't hear

892
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 6: from him again for four years? That feels like the

893
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 6: Raiders feel like that kind of team to me, But

894
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 6: I'm that's just bias. Like I actually think that the

895
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 6: Raiders made an aggressive move here, and either you do

896
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 6: or don't like whoever got Christian Wilkins, their defense becomes

897
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 6: a completely different operation.

898
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 5: I mean, he owes the Dolphins in some level, on

899
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 5: some level for letting him go in free agency. He

900
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 5: got eighty four point five million dollars guaranteed in the

901
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: in the Dolphins could have kept him for one year

902
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 5: twenty million dollars, so like that change that changed his life.

903
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 5: They have the I don't know what the word is,

904
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 5: like the most starting you know, we'll have to beat

905
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 5: that out, like defensive line in the league by far,

906
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 5: like because who annoys offensive linemen more than Christian Wilkins,

907
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 5: Like he gets in fights like everyone like thinks he's

908
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: sort of on the edge or over the edge and playing.

909
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 5: Putting him next to Max Crosby, that's just like kind

910
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 5: of an insane duo. They also both of them never

911
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 5: leave the field, Like Christian Wilkins is almost the defensive

912
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 5: tackle version of Max Crosby. You can't stay on the

913
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 5: field every step of fear a defensive tackle. But he's

914
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 5: pretty close to that. I also like Malcolm Kons there

915
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: at the end of last season. So that's three guys

916
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 5: like the Raiders doing something.

917
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: I like it.

918
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 5: That's the most by the way, anyone's gonna make I

919
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: think in free agency other than Kirk Cousins, it's gonna

920
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 5: be Christian Wilkins will go down that used to be

921
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 5: up sandwich prop we used to make too. Kirk Cousins,

922
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 5: I guess would have won it, but but Wilkins will

923
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 5: be second.

924
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: The Vikings. So we mentioned Kirk Cousins is no longer

925
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: their quarterback and that leads a gaping void for that team,

926
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 4: but there's still other work to be done, and Jonathan

927
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 4: Garnard there is a nice piece of the puzzle for

928
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 4: them pass rusher. He goes to the Vikings for forty

929
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 4: two million guaranteed four for seventy six. Blake Cashern, line

930
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 4: veteran linebacker, also to Minnesota on a three year deal,

931
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 4: so that defense definitely needed some enforcements. So on that

932
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 4: side of the ball, it's been a good day in Minnesota. Yeah.

933
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 5: I think he was, like again a guy who kind

934
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 5: of was helped out by his team, which is maybe

935
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: a red flag. I don't know, because Houston was not

936
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 5: in any cap struggles. They just decided, like, we don't

937
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 5: want to invest that much in Jonathan Garnard, but in

938
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 5: terms of like pressures in his age and pass rush

939
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 5: win rate and everything you would want, like he is

940
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 5: a one for one replacement for Daniel Hunter, who is

941
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 5: still out there. I think he's the top player left

942
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 5: on my top one on one. I did a quick

943
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 5: check before we started. I think players that entered the

944
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 5: day on the top one on one have been signed.

945
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 4: But that's it.

946
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 5: That means eighty are still out there, but twenty five

947
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 5: to thirty more were already taken off the board, like

948
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 5: before it even happened, as that list kept changing. But

949
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 5: that that's a nice move. But it showed me like

950
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 5: the Vikings knew they weren't getting Kirk Cousins because this

951
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: move happened right off the bat. This was one of

952
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: the very first moves of free agency. It was them

953
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 5: making sure that they got Jonathan Grenard.

954
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean even their decision and you know, the GM

955
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 4: put out a statement like you said, and the decision

956
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 4: that they made before last season when they decided to

957
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: break off the extension talks it seemed like the writing

958
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 4: was on the wall, and they want to build this

959
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 4: a different way. You can't really, you can't really hate

960
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 4: on them because when you look at what he actually did, Cousins,

961
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 4: despite all the production, they never really got close. And

962
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 4: now that it's time to change things up. So I

963
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 4: understand that it does I do have to say. I mean,

964
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 4: I will say it. You know, I've been waiting, you

965
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 4: know this, this this moment for Sam Darnold. Like you

966
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 4: keep on hearing whispers about Donald and the Vikings, I've

967
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: been waiting for this guy to get a fair shout

968
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 4: at a reboot, a proper reboot since his Jets fiasco

969
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 4: uh career, And that would work. That give me Donald

970
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 4: as as the QB with Kevin O'Connell, uh, and have

971
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 4: Justin Jefferson. Hopefully they'll get under contract. Then you guys,

972
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: if he if he bombs out of there, you guys

973
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: can bury him for it and laugh at me. But

974
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 4: I think that would be a nice setup for him

975
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 4: to potentially have his own type of Baker renaissance.

976
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 6: They also have the eleventh pick. They could move up

977
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: someone like JJ McCarthy.

978
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 5: I mean, some people think they might trade up with

979
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 5: the Patriots all the way to three and take take

980
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 5: one of the top.

981
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 6: Right, there just has to be another There has to

982
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: be another move, like but Dan, Like, honestly, if the

983
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 6: the whole master plan here in two off season rebuild

984
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 6: was to get Sam Donald, like you've god of gotten

985
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 6: Sam Donald.

986
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: It's a transition here for them. So if you go

987
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: and get a guy and maybe it works, I don't.

988
00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 5: I don't know.

989
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 6: I don't know how many transition years you get in

990
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 6: a row. It's like you like, they were they they

991
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 6: sold players on the cheap last year.

992
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 5: And I know they won thirteen games and what was

993
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 5: supposed to be a transition year and then this this

994
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: truly was, and they were they were kind of peaking

995
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 5: at the moment that Cousins got hurt. I think it

996
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 5: was absolutely the right time to say goodbye. You got

997
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 5: to make tough decisions sometimes, and I think QUESSI made

998
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,359
Speaker 5: it at the right time. I think the injury ended

999
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 5: up making it a lot easier for them to do that,

1000
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 5: And I actually do think Donald would would make sense there.

1001
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 5: But that is the ultimate team of zeus til I mean, forget,

1002
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: We're not We're not doing the Vikings ever. Again, but

1003
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 5: if never again. And Dan is the most loyal team

1004
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: of any person I know. But uh, if there was

1005
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 5: ever going to be a strong number two for Dan,

1006
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 5: it is Sam Donald starting to freaking vit you always

1007
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: like for some reason, I don't really know why.

1008
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 4: Is everyone I know as everyone knows that Jets are

1009
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: testing my patients like uh like never before, and uh

1010
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: if if that becomes very interesting to me, like like

1011
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 4: my fifty percent g my, my buddy Greg who was

1012
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 4: at the super Bowl this year is a die hard

1013
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: Vikings fan, So I would even have like a buddy

1014
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 4: that I could, you know, connect with on it. It's

1015
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 4: let's just leave it out there and let it hang.

1016
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: They also signed Blake Cashman to a twenty six million

1017
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 5: dollar deal, a linebacker who, what I think Mina mentioned

1018
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 5: is one of her favorites. And they're definitely signing sort

1019
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,720
Speaker 5: of like the hipster football Twitter favorites and Grenard and Cashman.

1020
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: So you got that group there too, right, I said it.

1021
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 4: I said you said it. You said, oh you said that.

1022
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 5: I mean you said that, you that he was one

1023
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 5: of your favorite guys in free agency.

1024
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,479
Speaker 4: No, I said that. I mentioned that in the news

1025
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 4: when we set up this spiking Dan.

1026
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 5: Our list is still coming out, so I mean, he's

1027
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 5: not going to be on our list.

1028
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: Coming out, yeah, tomorrow midnight.

1029
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 5: So we have a lot, you know, more news to

1030
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 5: get to and everything. But are you guys a little

1031
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 5: feeling like you're getting caught with your pants down that

1032
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: all these free agents? I mean, you are literally reporting

1033
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 5: on the biggest names of free agency signing your list

1034
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: is if you are like NFL Network the first year

1035
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: that they did the legal tampurine period and didn't realize

1036
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 5: the big day was going to be Wednesday and not Monday.

1037
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 5: And on Monday they only like two people on air

1038
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 5: for four hours and they were like, haman, Hamana, we

1039
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 5: didn't know this was going to be the big day. Well, yeah,

1040
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 5: we feel totally confident about.

1041
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 6: It's coming out when it needs to come out, at

1042
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 6: the problem out.

1043
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: When it comes out, which is on the eve of

1044
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 4: the new league year.

1045
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 5: It's up for the readers to decide what they prefer,

1046
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 5: all right, And.

1047
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know everybody and I see it, and I

1048
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: see it in my mentions. People don't want to hear

1049
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 4: about Dan's always on about Darnold. It's true. I'm so

1050
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: happy it is finally like I was felt like I

1051
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: was seeing Mina Chimes, who everyone respects Mina Kaimes' opinion.

1052
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 4: I'm not alone on this, no alone on the annoience.

1053
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: There's a lot of Darnald love out there in the football.

1054
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 4: And remember, but I remember, I was thriving that if

1055
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 4: it ever turned out into something, just remember before everyone

1056
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 4: else found it fashionable?

1057
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 6: Dan, Why would we have to remember when we will

1058
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 6: be reminded every single show about it, like.

1059
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: Oh, you, I know you don't want this to happen,

1060
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 4: because it's.

1061
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 6: Not that I don't, but it's like, like, well, I

1062
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 6: wonder we're not going to.

1063
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 5: I mean, Jeremia had him number one with like a

1064
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: bullet in a class with Josh Allen and Lamar Like,

1065
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that are invested in Sam

1066
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 5: Darnold Sam.

1067
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: All right, let's oh well say all right, let's take

1068
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 4: a break and we'll roll on a right. Welcome back,

1069
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 4: all right, diving right back in. The Jaguars are active.

1070
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 4: The Jaguars have had a busy Monday here. They signed

1071
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 4: wide receiver Gabe Davis form of the Buffalo Bills three years,

1072
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 4: thirty nine million, eleven million. It's signing Davis, who has had,

1073
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: you know, a checkered history in terms of being a

1074
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 4: productive player, but has always been enticing as a guy

1075
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 4: that can maybe take the next step. They also get

1076
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: Darnell Savage in the building as well on the other

1077
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: side of the ball, so the Jags mark are busy. Yeah.

1078
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 6: I was kind of wondering what the Jags, like, what

1079
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 6: their plan was this offseason, and also wondering where game

1080
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 6: Davis would would wind up.

1081
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: I don't hate it.

1082
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen with Calvin Ridley,

1083
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 6: but they kind of lack a number one wide receiver

1084
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 6: to me, because Gabe Davis, to me, is the quintessential

1085
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 6: sort of hot and cold guy who like he'll go

1086
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 6: a couple of games where you're not sure he was

1087
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 6: even on the field, but then he'll explode for one

1088
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 6: hundred and forty two yards and be a deep threat.

1089
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 4: So I like it.

1090
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 6: For Trevor Lawrence, they've added to their offensive line as well.

1091
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 6: It's like you've got to build around him. He's a piece,

1092
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 6: That's what I'd say about him. He's just a piece.

1093
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 6: It takes away from the Bills. I don't know what

1094
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 6: the Bills are doing because I every it seems like

1095
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 6: every couple of minutes, like the Bill, something is being

1096
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 6: taken away from.

1097
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 5: Buffalo Yabe Davis. I think has a lot of potential,

1098
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: but the Jaguars have tried this before. They spend a

1099
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 5: lot of money in free agency at wide receivers to

1100
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 5: pretty middling results. I'm assuming Calvin Ridley is gonna sign

1101
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 5: elsewhere or they would not make this deal because you know,

1102
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 5: Calvin Riley is a different type of player, but there's

1103
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 5: no way they're going to do both. It was not

1104
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: that expensive though. I mean, he's signing for like a

1105
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 5: little less than let's say Juju signed for last year,

1106
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: you know, or Jacobi Meyers signed for last year. That's

1107
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 5: reasonable to me, but this is a boomer bust type office.

1108
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: He also signed Mitch Morse from the Bills and not

1109
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 5: yet another player from the Bills, so there's a Buffalo

1110
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 5: to Jacksonville.

1111
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: I don't love the I don't love the signing. It

1112
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 4: sounds like they're trying to save money because Ridley's market

1113
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 4: got more expensive than they they wanted, you know, to

1114
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 4: do that type of business that they were scared off

1115
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 4: by that. And Davis like if Josh Allen couldn't make

1116
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 4: him a thing, M Like, I know, was it a thing?

1117
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 4: I know, that's what I mean, but not a consistent

1118
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 4: force when he wasn't even seeing the number one cornerback

1119
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 4: most weeks with Stephan Diggs already there, Like, I don't know.

1120
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 5: We have you've seen the analytics though he put out

1121
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 5: on Instagram because they were pretty impressive.

1122
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he put him out on himself.

1123
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 5: It actually, yeah he did. He must have gotten him

1124
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 5: from his agency or something. But they were so overwhelmingly

1125
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 5: good that I actually bumped him up the top one

1126
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 5: of one just for that.

1127
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: Oh good. See it works to promote oneself. By the way,

1128
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 4: I meant to hit this when we were talking about

1129
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 4: the running running backs, but like I said, this is

1130
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: insider Christmas. It's a high pressure business. We have a

1131
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: live program on NFL Network where we have all three

1132
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 4: of our insiders and we all know who they are.

1133
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 4: It's rap Sheet, it's the Pell Raiser and Mike g Okay.

1134
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 4: And when the Josh Jacobs news comes down, it's on

1135
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 4: live television, and Jacobs and and Ian has it first.

1136
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 4: And Ian takes out his phone and he kind of

1137
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 4: pauses and he starts to say, and then he's texting

1138
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 4: in real time while he's on live TV, and he

1139
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 4: says that you know this is this is from me

1140
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 4: and in the middle box, so it's Ceciliano in one

1141
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: box Andrew hell Raiser and then Mike j You see

1142
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: pell Raiser's face, He's like, give me the credit, loop

1143
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 4: me in on the scoop Ian didn't loop him in,

1144
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 4: So here was pell Raiser. Minutes later, when there was

1145
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 4: another bit of news to announce.

1146
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 3: It's right, the Rams signing Colby Parkinson, the former Seahawks

1147
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 3: tight end to a big deal three years, twenty two

1148
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 3: point five million, including fifteen point five million dollars guaranteed

1149
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: according to me and he and c I'll give you

1150
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 3: in credit on TV And though he stiffed me on

1151
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs right there, Parkinson can avoid that deal.

1152
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 5: What a lonely barren existence?

1153
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: Whoa not.

1154
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 5: Just the job? It just sounds like it's are you

1155
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 5: ever satisfied? Are you ever?

1156
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 6: Do you ever go out for dinner and you're not

1157
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 6: on your phone the entire time? Are you sleeping with

1158
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 6: you know, your phone next to your face?

1159
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: Like?

1160
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: Are you ever a human? Do you ever swim?

1161
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 4: In a lake you mentioned gave Davis. By the way, Gabe,

1162
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 4: Davis did have eight catches for two hundred and one

1163
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 4: yards and four touchdowns in that playoff game against the

1164
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 4: Cheaps couple of years back. I mean, if there was

1165
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: a starmaking performance that you could ever bank on, you

1166
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: would have thought that would have been in. And yet

1167
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 4: the Bills felt comfortable letting him go, which I think

1168
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 4: tells you a lot. And I'm not breaking news here.

1169
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 4: You hear this all the time. There's a reason why

1170
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 4: a lot of these signings don't work out. And the

1171
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 4: reason is a lot of these teams made internal decisions

1172
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: about these players that they weren't somebody they wanted to

1173
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 4: keep around or not at a certain price point. But

1174
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 4: the Jags go and get Davis, and we'll see.

1175
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 5: What happens they have Like on a two and a three,

1176
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 5: Kirk makes more money and he's a two and maybe

1177
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 5: Davis is a three or whatever. And for the insiders,

1178
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 5: you know, I do want to I guess give them credit.

1179
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 5: At some point, I don't know how it worked, but

1180
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 5: at some point rap Sheet and pell Raiser decided, like

1181
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 5: we have to join forces because so many of these

1182
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 5: reports are the two of them. I don't know how

1183
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 5: that how did that conversation go. I'd like to know

1184
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 5: why isn't Mike g involved in that like thing where

1185
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 5: they're sharing, because they do share a lot, but they

1186
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 5: don't share all, Like what is the decision making?

1187
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 4: Probably I have a theory.

1188
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:39,479
Speaker 5: Nobody knows.

1189
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 4: Here's the theory. My theory is that when it comes

1190
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: to scoopage, like you got to have that dog in you.

1191
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 4: M and rap Sheet and pell Raiser are both highly

1192
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: competitive and there had to be some type of brokerage

1193
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: behind the scenes, so neither would, you know, get upset

1194
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 4: with the other and but you still see it bubble

1195
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: up in moments like that on live television where it

1196
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 4: can't be managed. Mike, on the other hand, I feel

1197
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 4: like he doesn't have that dog in him as a newsbreaker,

1198
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 4: Like he can do it and if he wanted to,

1199
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: he could absolutely be like the other two. But he

1200
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 4: chooses a different path in life and.

1201
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 5: He wants that dinner. He wants to turn off the

1202
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 5: phone with his wife and have a nice dinner.

1203
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 4: That's what I think. That's what.

1204
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 6: Well, So when you're eighty, what when I'm not saying

1205
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 6: good or bad on anybody.

1206
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 4: But that's just how I how I see it.

1207
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 5: This is not a common on any of them.

1208
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 6: But I would say that Mike Garrifolo seems completely secure

1209
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 6: with whatever role he's chosen.

1210
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 4: I also think it should be said in fairness that

1211
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: I would imagine that Ian and Tom enjoy having dinner

1212
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 4: with their family too.

1213
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 6: I would do say that's probably true. We're not suggesting

1214
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 6: that's not the case, all right.

1215
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: Uh, Moving on, the Panthers sign guard Robert Hunt to

1216
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 4: a five year, one hundred million dollar deal with sixty

1217
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 4: three million guaranteed. That seems like a lot, but that

1218
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: you know, that's the guards are getting paid. Giants signed

1219
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 4: Andrew Van Ginkel to twenty million over that's your boy, Mark,

1220
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 4: that's your boy. And and also guard John Runyon gets

1221
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 4: seventeen million guarantee guaranteed. In addition, of course, he has

1222
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: to Devin single Tour Devin Singletary joining the Fray at

1223
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 4: running back.

1224
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 5: I love the Hunt signing.

1225
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 6: I mean, the Panthers I thought were lost from a

1226
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 6: front office perspective for years in a row. But he

1227
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 6: had the lowest pressure rate all out of any offensive

1228
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 6: lineman in the league last year. And you know that

1229
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 6: whole offense needs help. I don't love Van Ginkle going

1230
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 6: to the Giants right now. I mean I grew up

1231
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 6: with the Giants, but it's like I want Van Ginkle

1232
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 6: plugged into a Super Bowl ready operation or watching him

1233
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 6: in January next season.

1234
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 4: So let me see a Van gingkle fan. Are you Mark?

1235
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 6: This is the least one of the He's one of

1236
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 6: my favorite players in the league. I've mentioned this, you

1237
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 6: know a couple of.

1238
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 4: What is it about? What is it about Van Ginkle

1239
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 4: that really name your engine? Like Christmas?

1240
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 5: His name is sort of his whole like aura person.

1241
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 5: Some similarities to previous Mark favorites like Toby Gerhart and

1242
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 5: whatnot on the defensive side, But you know that's.

1243
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 6: Not where we're going, by the way, Just like I think,

1244
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 6: I like I said, though, there were how many Dolphins games,

1245
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 6: especially under Brian Floores, were like suddenly Van ginkels having

1246
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 6: like a crazy second half where he's like blowing people

1247
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 6: up and making plays like he just stands out to

1248
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 6: me and it's go.

1249
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: Do it for the Giants. Its officially your guy.

1250
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 5: I like the Giants Giants fan should feel. The Singletary

1251
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 5: contract to me was one of the most mystifying of

1252
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 5: the entire day. Like I know it'll be backloaded, but

1253
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 5: like you really didn't have to pay that much money

1254
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 5: for Devin Singletary. I do like the Van Ginkle signing,

1255
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 5: and I do like the John we let.

1256
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: The running back seat? Can we let one you know,

1257
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 4: a couple of slight overpay.

1258
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,959
Speaker 5: Clearly, like there was like seven guys that were worth

1259
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 5: paying available and he was like the eighth or whatever,

1260
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Like, and they like, if

1261
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 5: you're gonna pay him that much money, just pay an

1262
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 5: extra couple million to keep Saquon Barkley. That part I

1263
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 5: didn't get, but Runyan was at a more fair price.

1264
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 5: And the Hunt deal, it sounds crazy. Everyone was like,

1265
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 5: whoa Robert Hunt? But when they don't put the specifics,

1266
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: They didn't put the guaranteed money in the at least

1267
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 5: in terms of how it was structured. They did say

1268
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 5: sixty it's probably you know, the last couple of years

1269
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 5: are fake and he's a big time player, a big

1270
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 5: time guard, and guards are getting paid, I think just

1271
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: because so many of them hit the market that are

1272
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 5: actually quality starters, and there just aren't many positions where

1273
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 5: like young in prime players hit the market and there

1274
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 5: happened to be like ten guards who were playing at

1275
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 5: a pretty high level. But like the Dolphins lost so

1276
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 5: many players today, maybe this is the time to just

1277
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 5: mention it. The one of the Dolphins beat writers, I

1278
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 5: think it was Joe Shad pointed out the Dolphins need

1279
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 5: right now after are losing all these players today, two

1280
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 5: starting defensive tackles. Of course, they just lost Wilkins. They

1281
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 5: also lost Banginkle, a starting cornerback. They had cut Zaving Howard,

1282
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 5: a starting safety, Brandon Jones landed in Denver. Two starting guards,

1283
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 5: a starting in sidelinebacker, a starting center, two heavy usage

1284
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 5: edge players, and three backup wide receivers. That's that's what

1285
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 5: they think the Dolphins redaate.

1286
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 4: They think they're in trouble. Now, wait till they give

1287
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 4: two a forty million a year for like three years.

1288
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 5: Might be partly what they're saving up for it, and

1289
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 5: they will make some signings. It's not like they're just

1290
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 5: gonna like sit out free agency.

1291
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 6: But then also Buffalo is Buffalo has had to. I

1292
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 6: know everyone's like the cap doesn't matter, it doesn't even exist.

1293
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: It's a ghost. But like that's that's the Buffalo. No

1294
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 4: Greg says that cap does matter. No, No, I say

1295
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 4: it's like it doesn't matter. I don't.

1296
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 5: I think either one of them is a little too simplified.

1297
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 6: But say, Buffalo has had to make some moves cap

1298
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 6: because of the cap, They've had to make some moves

1299
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 6: and lose some players. And it's like a year ago

1300
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 6: it was like will every team in the AFC East

1301
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 6: make the playoffs? It's like Buffalo is not better right

1302
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 6: now on any level, and the Dolphins are missing like

1303
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 6: twelve players.

1304
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 5: Not good.

1305
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: Really, you hate to see it. Another move at interior line,

1306
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 4: Rams sign Jonah Jackson for thirty four million guaranteed on

1307
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: a fifty one million dollar deal. Was he good last year?

1308
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 4: Was it like? What is that?

1309
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 5: He's been very consistent, I would say throughout his career.

1310
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 5: He definitely missed some time for Detroit last year, but

1311
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: he's played a lot and always been thought of as

1312
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 5: a good guard. That price and Kevin Dotson's price for

1313
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 5: the Ram really surprised me. They got very similar money.

1314
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 5: But I think they're gonna let their center Coleman Shelton,

1315
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,040
Speaker 5: I'm guessing leave, and they're gonna move their guard last year,

1316
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 5: who was a rookie Steve Avila, who look great, and

1317
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 5: move him to center and suddenly you've got on paper

1318
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 5: one of the best interior offensive lines in the league.

1319
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 5: They must have thought they really hit on something last

1320
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 5: year with an interior offensive line that was playing well,

1321
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 5: that's like their thing. That's what they decided to spend

1322
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: all this cap space on, was interior offensive line. It's

1323
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 5: pretty interesting.

1324
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 4: Well how about this mark you mentioned the Bills? What

1325
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 4: are they? You know, are they better? Are they worse?

1326
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:15,800
Speaker 4: You know? The Dolphins? Well, how about keeping Dion Dawkins

1327
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: in the building. There's some positive news in Buffalo. Was

1328
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 4: reported first by Schefter that the Bills signed Dawkins to

1329
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 4: a three year, sixty point five million dollar contract extension

1330
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 4: and this has been a durable rock on their team.

1331
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 4: Also a bit of a weird kind of story around

1332
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: this one, because yesterday, I think it was.

1333
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 5: Now when was it, good morning? It was five minutes

1334
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 5: before the news or like twenty minutes before the news

1335
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 5: actually came out that he's resigned with the Bills.

1336
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 4: Talk about your all time shaky bits. Five minutes before

1337
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 4: he goes on social media and basically announces his career

1338
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 4: with Buffalo is over which I don't know who. I mean,

1339
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 4: where the laughs are You're essentially antagonizing and bumming out

1340
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 4: your fans in Buffalo, and then it turns out, unless

1341
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 4: there's something more to the story, that was all just

1342
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 4: an elaborate ruse, because then the report comes out that

1343
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 4: he is staying indeed in Buffalo and will continue to

1344
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 4: anchor that line.

1345
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 6: So cool, bit, bro, It's a it's a faulty bit

1346
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 6: because there's enough players out there on Twitter, you know,

1347
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,439
Speaker 6: making it clear that they're learning news at the same

1348
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 6: time that civilians are at the same time we are.

1349
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 6: And like, I guarantee, unless he you know, set up

1350
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 6: this like faulty bit with everyone on the roster ahead

1351
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 6: of time, which seems unlikely because the whole thing was

1352
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 6: sort of a mess, Like he's got teammates floating out

1353
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 6: there thinking that he's leaving the team for a while.

1354
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 5: We so what about for like twenty minutes? You're right,

1355
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 5: Daikwon Jones actually did respond to his tweet, being like,

1356
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 5: what the heck man? The tweet that he sent out

1357
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 5: was it was good while it lasted, Buffalo piece excited

1358
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 5: for this next chapter of my football career. I wonder

1359
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 5: if it's okay to eat Ran now. And I think

1360
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,040
Speaker 5: he even did a press conference today and he just

1361
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 5: said I just woke up and felt like being a troll.

1362
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 4: You know, he just wow, Just do you ever get

1363
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 4: it happened to me once, but I think a lot

1364
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 4: of people can relate to it. You have a buddy

1365
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 4: who breaks up with his girlfriend and the girlfriend sucks,

1366
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 4: and then you kind of share that with them after

1367
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 4: they break up, and then they get back together, and

1368
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 4: but you've shared the information your true feelings. You know.

1369
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 4: He also risked one of his teammates, like Stefan Diggs,

1370
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 4: for example, being like, whatever, bro, we didn't like you anyway,

1371
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: and that would have made a massive situation. I'm just saying, like,

1372
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 4: you risked, you open the door for that scenario. You know.

1373
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: Yep, you might not, but no, no, you're right. And

1374
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: it reminds me of people that ask you what you

1375
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 5: think of different possible baby names before they actually name

1376
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 5: their baby. Don't give an opinion. There's a chance that

1377
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 5: that ends up being their baby's name, and then they

1378
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 5: will remember that for their child's entire life. And you'll

1379
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 5: even you know, you'll know that looking at that child there,

1380
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 5: so you did that. This happened to you? You were

1381
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:11,240
Speaker 5: the sea name. No no, but I do know it

1382
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:12,959
Speaker 5: was a close a close friend.

1383
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 4: This happened to.

1384
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 5: Lough Sitch, classic gull time, tough stitch. Just that's like

1385
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 5: a no win situation. Oh yeah, I don't like that name.

1386
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 5: It's like, oh, what do you name your baby? Oh yeah,

1387
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 5: that name I mentioned well.

1388
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: Also the situation just a little more context. What gets

1389
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 4: tricky is when you're having that conversation with your buddy,

1390
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 4: and of course this can happen with you know, the

1391
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: fair Sex as well. In a reverse scenario. You you're

1392
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,479
Speaker 4: trying to cheer him up, and you're trying because he's

1393
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 4: down in the dumps about it, and he's like, I

1394
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 4: can't believe it didn't work out, and and you're like,

1395
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 4: and you're just trying to make him feel like he

1396
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 4: didn't lose the greatest thing he ever had. So you're

1397
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: also trying to feed him from that side, and then

1398
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 4: it all blows up in your face. So just be

1399
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 4: careful with that baby name thing. Sure that as well.

1400
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 4: There's a lot of minefields out there.

1401
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 5: The bills, by the way, are also bringing back aj Epanessa,

1402
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 5: which is breaking right as we're talking.

1403
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 4: So, uh, that's.

1404
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 5: Another point in my thing that the cap is real,

1405
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:13,520
Speaker 5: but teams keeping play.

1406
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 4: My thing that the cap is real in my favor.

1407
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 5: Is like, Okay, they signed, they got rid of all

1408
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 5: these guys in Buffalo. It's like, oh, this is this

1409
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 5: is sad. The cap is is very hard, That's all true.

1410
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 5: Dion Dawkins who is getting paid a lot of money

1411
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 5: but actually still playing at a very high level that

1412
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 5: they think will continue. They figured out a way to

1413
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 5: change his contract around, give him even more money because

1414
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 5: he's playing at such a high level. So if you

1415
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 5: have players you want to keep, you keep them like

1416
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 5: they kept Upanessa too.

1417
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 4: I'm Switzerland in the is the cap real or not?

1418
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: Camp I just don't give a all right, let's let's

1419
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 4: keep let's keep moving, Let's keep it because we must.

1420
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman, this works out for everybody. We didn't need

1421
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 4: to figure out whether Mike Pittman was really good or not.

1422
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 4: Are worth a lot of money, just let the cults

1423
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 4: keep them, and they seem to like him. So Michael

1424
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 4: Pittman gets a three year, forty six million dollar deal, uh,

1425
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 4: or a three year deal forty six million of it guaranteed.

1426
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 4: Where does that stack up, Gregie in terms of the

1427
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 4: wide receiver market, is that tier two as to use

1428
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 4: a Steve smithism, is that tier two money? Tier one low?

1429
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 4: Tier one or tier two money?

1430
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like on that borderline. I think it'll wait

1431
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 5: makes making like tier two money. It's perfect for Michael Pittman.

1432
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 5: It's like a little more than the franchise tag. But

1433
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 5: it's not like you're the man.

1434
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 4: Is Michael Pittman the Dalton line for wide receivers like

1435
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 4: have as you're like number one.

1436
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 5: Guy for number one it's a little weird to make

1437
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 5: number one receivers the Dalton line. But yes, for like

1438
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,280
Speaker 5: a number one to number two receiver, I think he

1439
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 5: would he would be that line.

1440
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: Wait, do we have a new offseason series.

1441
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 5: It's time like spending the Darne universe right to say

1442
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 5: you're a number one, then you're like in the top

1443
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 5: you know, in theory two twenty five in the league

1444
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,719
Speaker 5: whatever it's gonna be. So yeah, sounds like a chore.

1445
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 4: But to the point where the Dalton line is that

1446
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 4: at that point you don't have a solution as a

1447
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 4: true playmaker, Mark, it's something for you.

1448
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 5: It's s'er confusing because every team needs two to three

1449
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 5: receivers and he's not the sixteenth best receiver in the league.

1450
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 5: Isn't that where the Jaguars are.

1451
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 6: They don't have an They don't have a number one

1452
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 6: teams out there like the do the Titans have it?

1453
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 6: Did you consider DeAndre Hopkins the number one?

1454
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 5: At this point? Christian Kirk looks more like the Dalton

1455
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 5: line someone.

1456
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 4: I'm just like, this might be something to chew on.

1457
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 4: That's all Mark, something to chew on. You want me

1458
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 4: to say it's a fully formed idea, but something really

1459
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 4: to get in the lab and try to see if

1460
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 4: we could make.

1461
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 5: I will heavily consider it. While we're on the Colts,

1462
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 5: they're sort of like, to me, one of the more

1463
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 5: forgettable teams from the twenty twenty three seasons. Sorry, I

1464
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 5: know you were in the mix, but once once Richardson

1465
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 5: was hurt, it was just to me, they weren't a

1466
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 5: fun watch. They've had those the Colts. I'm saying sorry

1467
01:09:58,200 --> 01:09:58,839
Speaker 5: to the Colts.

1468
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 4: To the Cults. Yes, I think Mark was in on

1469
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 4: the Cults as well.

1470
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 5: They've had the most boring Day one of free agency too,

1471
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 5: which is they just resigned all their players. They resigned

1472
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 5: Taekwon Lewis, they resigned Grover Stewart to a surprisingly big deal.

1473
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 5: But I like Grover Stewart, and they resigned Pittman. So

1474
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 5: it's just like Chris baal is just like we like

1475
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 5: our guys. Let's let's stick with.

1476
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 4: Him and hopefully Richardson's healthy and and maybe we take

1477
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 4: the leap. They comported themselves with grace and dignity considering

1478
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:27,439
Speaker 4: the injury mark.

1479
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 5: And that was my comment.

1480
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,839
Speaker 6: And I thought that their defense was, you know, nasty

1481
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 6: on a week to week basis, and they made the

1482
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 6: playoffs with a backup quarterback.

1483
01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 5: They didn't a lot about that team. They did not

1484
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 5: make the playoffs, but they were felt it felt like

1485
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 5: it was a battle. It was like the play in

1486
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 5: game for the NBA, the battle for the fourteenth seed

1487
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 5: in the NFL.

1488
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: Which they barely lost. Tough stitch for them. But Garner,

1489
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 4: there's no such thing as barely lost. Either one or

1490
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:58,559
Speaker 4: you lost.

1491
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 5: In this case barely that it all right.

1492
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 4: We got to take one more break and then we'll

1493
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 4: finish the news. All right, we're back, let's close this out.

1494
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 4: This is more in the in the realm, of speculation,

1495
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: but keep an eye on it because we've been talking

1496
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 4: about wide receivers all show and that market is fast

1497
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 4: drying up. But there are still teams out there that

1498
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 4: are desperate to add wide receivers. So t Higgins, who

1499
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 4: got tagged by the Bengals, their number two guy, that's

1500
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 4: a good example. T Higgins is the number two on

1501
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 4: his team, but I think he's almost certainly better than

1502
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman, right like or you know, I thines, yes,

1503
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 4: that type of thing. So Tiggins Higgins is that type

1504
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 4: of guy. So when he he looks around at the landscape,

1505
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 4: he says, all right, you're gonna tag me, but you're

1506
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 4: not willing to give me the long term deal. I request,

1507
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 4: I request the trade, he said, he declared it. So

1508
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 4: we'll see did they grant him that request.

1509
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 5: Well, he's a free he's a franchise tag, so he's

1510
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 5: it's kind of funny because he's allowed to. We don't

1511
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 5: need to get you don't need to give permission. I mean,

1512
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 5: you get it a little early. But any team can

1513
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 5: sign a franchise tag player he's unsigned. They just to

1514
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 5: give up a lot, but they can. They could.

1515
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 4: But he has the tag fixed to him. Correct, Correct,

1516
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: they have to give them and grant him. Grant the

1517
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 4: team that has affixed the tag. Doesn't it preclude that

1518
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 4: player from being in the mix and free agency with

1519
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: a certain designation.

1520
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 5: Well, in theory, teams could sign him to an offer

1521
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 5: sheet and they would have to give up two first

1522
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 5: round picks, which everyone knows is going to be too

1523
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 5: rich for t Higgins. So yes, I guess the Bengals

1524
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 5: would have to give permission on some level to talk

1525
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 5: about different trade terms. But we know how this works.

1526
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 4: They but liked with Kansas City as another example in

1527
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 4: this realm. They're on board with this. Yes, we don't

1528
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 4: have any indications that the Bengals are entertaining offers, but

1529
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 4: he would like to be on the move.

1530
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 6: But the Chiefs or the Bengals could accept less than

1531
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 6: the you know two number one like remember this happened

1532
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 6: with Jimmy Graham back in the day. Was like they

1533
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 6: could if they really wanted to move Higgins or it

1534
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,440
Speaker 6: became a thing like you can accept your different terms.

1535
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 5: Right, you can do what you want. Matt Castle, I think,

1536
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 5: was one of those guys back in the day knowing

1537
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 5: the Bengals they're not gonna him like declaring the trial

1538
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 5: is right is only going to make them be like, sorry, bro,

1539
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: we want you for one more year. I don't think

1540
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 5: they're going to do anything. This makes them want.

1541
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 4: Him more, like, oh, you really want to go, You're

1542
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: not going anywhere. Eric Armstead, also of the Niners. He

1543
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 4: is expected to be released by San Francisco, so he'll

1544
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 4: he'll enter the fray. The Commander's sign.

1545
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 5: Yes, I think he's in my top thirty of my

1546
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 5: free agency list. I was quite surprised he was still

1547
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,839
Speaker 5: playing pretty well last year. They did sign Leonard Floyd

1548
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 5: as we were taping, to a two year, twenty million

1549
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 5: dollar contract, so they basically decided to get a similar

1550
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 5: ish player. I know, Floyd's more of an outside guy,

1551
01:13:55,479 --> 01:13:58,120
Speaker 5: but good run stopper, but for much less money than

1552
01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 5: Armstead was making. But a weird move.

1553
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 4: Weird move. I'm looking at a name right now that

1554
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 4: I'm really I'm in trouble. I'm gonna say it right now.

1555
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 4: The Commander's signed former Cowboys defensive end Doran This is

1556
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 4: this One's not that he's easy. Durrance Durrance Dorance Armstrong

1557
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,719
Speaker 4: Darrence Armstrong thirty three million over three years, but also

1558
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,480
Speaker 4: center tyler.

1559
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 5: Biadaci and as Biaci as we were taping. Also our

1560
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 5: number one or my number one out off ball linebacker

1561
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 5: Frankie Luvu to a three year, thirty six million dollar contract,

1562
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 5: so they're active if nothing else, and two of those

1563
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 5: guys were dan Quinn's players in Dallas Armstrong. I thought

1564
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 5: was is a nice value there. I really liked how

1565
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 5: he played.

1566
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 6: Frankie Luvu is sort of for me like a Van

1567
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 6: Gingkle type where it's like, I, I really I think

1568
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 6: Frankie Luvu is an excellent addition, big higher constantly creating problems.

1569
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 5: Why are you making a face? I don't know.

1570
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 4: I just like I like Mark's kind of nebulos guys.

1571
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 6: I got stuck watching the Panthers a lot early in

1572
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 6: the year last year, and I just noted that, like

1573
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,400
Speaker 6: whenever he's writing my notes for our show, like Louvu

1574
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 6: kept just doing things over and over, and I think

1575
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 6: it's like a I don't know, I never I never

1576
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 6: trust the Commanders as a landing spot, but I have

1577
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 6: to remove what's happened my like the last twenty years

1578
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 6: up until now.

1579
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 5: We'll see, right, these these actually seem like the sort

1580
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:35,320
Speaker 5: of like mid wattage, the solid NFL players that are

1581
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 5: improving and in the middle of the career that you

1582
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 5: want in free agency, very uncommanders like so I think

1583
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 5: I think it's a nice day for the commanders. I

1584
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 5: really liked Armstrong coming into this whole thing. He was

1585
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 5: one of my guys that I wanted.

1586
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 4: Uh, pinch me. Patriots talk. Kendrick Bourne resigns with the

1587
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 4: Pats nineteen million over over three years. He's coming off

1588
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 4: in ACL, so it is an ACL, right, so hopefully

1589
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 4: he'll be healthy and a contributor. DeVante Parker another a

1590
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 4: big time move that they made a couple of years back,

1591
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: did not work out, so he's been released. Greg I

1592
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:08,879
Speaker 4: mean Bill Belichick.

1593
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:12,720
Speaker 5: Signing Devonte Parker to another contract the last offseason is

1594
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 5: you know, one of the more regrettable moves that didn't

1595
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,480
Speaker 5: involve the name Juju Smith Schuster for the Patriots. Patriots

1596
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 5: also added Antonio Gibson. Oh yeah, that's kind of fun.

1597
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 4: I do like wide receiver room is pretty rough the

1598
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 4: last few years in general, just the decisions and the

1599
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 4: production and the highlight plays or lack thereof.

1600
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 5: It's pretty rough. I do like them as the last

1601
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 5: second fields option, although I wouldn't want that to stop

1602
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 5: them from from drafting one.

1603
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 4: You know you brought up Belichick. Imagine you know Kirk

1604
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: Cousins signed with Bill Belichick's team today. That would have

1605
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 4: been cool if the Falcons made that move. But maybe

1606
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 4: Raheem Morris will be better. All right, Eight o'clock to

1607
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 4: light hit it. The Colts signs Aiar Franklin three years,

1608
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 4: thirty one million. The jag signed former Bill center Mitch

1609
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 4: Morse ten million over two years. Graham Glasgow re signed

1610
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 4: by Detroit twenty million bucks he gets in that deal.

1611
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 4: The Bengals bring back tight Andrew Sample on a three

1612
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:20,000
Speaker 4: year contract. The Patriots signed Antonio Gibson the running back

1613
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 4: Cardinals signed cornerbacks Sean Murphy, Bunting and Bilal Nichols. The

1614
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 4: Colts hang on to defensive lineman Tyquin Lewis and Grover Stewart,

1615
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 4: and the Texans signed one time top three pick of

1616
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: the lines Jeffer Kuda to a contract. They also bring

1617
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 4: in former Titan Denico Autry.

1618
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 5: Like that Autry move, I like those, you know, Textan

1619
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,320
Speaker 5: seems like you're doing smart things. Very deserting.

1620
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 4: Team, a little weird to me the Grenard thing, but

1621
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:56,759
Speaker 4: they must know something that we don't.

1622
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 5: Also, if you're a fan and your team didn't make

1623
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 5: this show, or or you're Nick Westling and you're texting us,

1624
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean, what are the what is the Bengals plans like?

1625
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: Same old stuff. Just calm down.

1626
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 5: They want a free agency. There's gonna be a lot

1627
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 5: of more stuff that's gonna happen.

1628
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 4: The Jets signed Greg Zerline, but they bring back Greg

1629
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 4: the leg and I think Will Lutz had a change

1630
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 4: of heart. Should we leave that as a cliffhanger? Yes,

1631
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 4: you need to find that out on your own.

1632
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 5: The report was he was going to go to Jacksonville

1633
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 5: and and Sean Payton would not let his man go,

1634
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 5: and he brought him back to Denver. Dan, you we're

1635
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,799
Speaker 5: gonna give us here Derrick Henry fantasy.

1636
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 4: Oh why don't we do it? When I when I

1637
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 4: say I'll go one, two, three, go, and then we'll

1638
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 4: all say where we think is the perfect landing spot

1639
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 4: for Derrick Henry. Okay, well, all right, Greg, sit it

1640
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 4: out because you can't go along with anything, all right?

1641
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 5: Me and you Mark Eddy, I to think of something

1642
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 5: one two three go ings.

1643
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just makes so much sense, does can't you

1644
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 4: You talk about you were talking about Big Ben, you

1645
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 4: were struggling with him in Pittsburgh, Like God, he just

1646
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 4: he would. You could pour him into that Raven's purple

1647
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 4: and it just today. You could see him running in

1648
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 4: January and finally getting him over the hump and closing

1649
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,920
Speaker 4: out some ball games, and.

1650
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:19,759
Speaker 6: They's Baltimore is the perfect place to pick up a veteran.

1651
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 6: That's apparently everyone else, including the Smart Titans, have decided

1652
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 6: we're done with this guy. And he rolls into a

1653
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 6: Baltimore operation that probably goes two playoff games deep because

1654
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 6: of him. I love the fit. You could see it

1655
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 6: today and he would destroy people left and right post November.

1656
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 5: And you kind of alluded to this regarding the Giants earlier.

1657
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 5: We have had some mild confirmation from Albert Breer that

1658
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 5: that Brian Burns and the Panthers are in talks with

1659
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 5: the Giants for a possible trade, but nothing finalized. And

1660
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 5: that's been apparently going on for a while, so that

1661
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 5: that would be a spicy meatball.

1662
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, cave On Thibodeau, friend of the show,

1663
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 4: is strong, but certainly took a big leap forward in

1664
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 4: year two Thibodeaux and Burns. Okay, there you go, Giants fans,

1665
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 4: that would be something to hang your hat on. Now

1666
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 4: we'll see what the what the Panthers are asking for?

1667
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 4: I mean, would that cost them geez? First round pick?

1668
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 5: I could see it. Maybe next year's first round picks.

1669
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they can't do it this year, right, It would

1670
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 4: maybe a two this year and a one next year

1671
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden, this that's all.

1672
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 5: It's like, go ahead of ourselves. It's not going to

1673
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,519
Speaker 5: be that much. It's not gonna be that much. I

1674
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 5: know they turned down two first but the markets it's

1675
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 5: different now. It's because you have to pay them right now,

1676
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 5: and it's just different. You might be able to get

1677
01:20:44,240 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 5: him for a two, and then I would be I

1678
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 5: would be happy with that if.

1679
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: I love Panthers management turning down two first round picks

1680
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: for Brian Burns.

1681
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 5: And just remember Dan, it's cave on Burns and Van Ginkel.

1682
01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 4: Hmmm.

1683
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 5: Now we're now, Now we've got something going on in

1684
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 5: New York. Things are. The tide is turned in this

1685
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 5: very day for Singletary, because hey, you got it, you

1686
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 5: gotta get a Singletary in the building right right off

1687
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 5: the bat. You drafted them in Buffalo and you don't

1688
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:12,679
Speaker 5: want to pay sake.

1689
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 4: On I think unless they they're going to get a quarterback,

1690
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 4: the Giants, I think they got to really think hard

1691
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 4: now and checking in on Justin Fields if they haven't already,

1692
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 4: that could be all right. All right. See, there's a

1693
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 4: lot more to come in and as soon as we

1694
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 4: finish this podcast, more news will break and it will

1695
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:37,760
Speaker 4: be annoying. But also we did threatened vengeance upon any

1696
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:42,759
Speaker 4: newsmakers and you know teams that break our our code

1697
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 4: of not dropping news right after we finished recording. So

1698
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 4: hopefully news breaks overnight at the earliest or early tomorrow,

1699
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 4: and then we'll be back. We're getting on a board.

1700
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,879
Speaker 4: We're getting on a bird tomorrow, hopefully with a trophy

1701
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 4: in hand as we go to the iHeartRadio Awards tonight.

1702
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 4: Had a nice time last night. They had a private

1703
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 4: party and it was you know, all the nice, nice

1704
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 4: little crowd, intimate gathering at this really nice hotel, Saint

1705
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 4: Cecilia Hotel here in downtown Austin, and we saw the

1706
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: Black Keys, who did a nice forty five minute set

1707
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 4: of you know, good like Heartland Americana rock. Good stomped

1708
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 4: to it, a good kind of dirty Detroit style rock

1709
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 4: from the Cleveland based Black Keys. Mark was enjoying himself.

1710
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,280
Speaker 4: Greg seemed to be okay with it. Everybody was. I

1711
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: enjoyed it.

1712
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 5: What are you talking about?

1713
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 4: You had a great time? Well you you were to

1714
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 4: You know what I noticed because I moved, I moved it.

1715
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 4: You were on the side of the stage. And then

1716
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 4: when I rotated around to the front of the stage

1717
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 4: for the second half of the show, it was like, Oh,

1718
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 4: these guys actually sound great. From the side of the stage.

1719
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 4: You couldn't hear it as well, and I was like, ah,

1720
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 4: Greg would have really like this.

1721
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 5: Well, you flagged us. We should have texted down. It

1722
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,320
Speaker 5: was only like twenty feet away, or just come come over.

1723
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 4: You seem to be because I could see you. I

1724
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 4: had a good sight line. It was a very small gathering,

1725
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,559
Speaker 4: and you seem to be engrossed conversation. So I said,

1726
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let Greg be. But then I did. I

1727
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 4: caught the Cess Dog's eye and I waved my arms

1728
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 4: and Cess Dog rolls over and yeah, you know, we

1729
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 4: had a great time.

1730
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 5: I miss quite an interesting crowd I'll leave it right there.

1731
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 5: It's always it's always tricky at a concert. Do you

1732
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 5: want to be on the side and have like a

1733
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 5: direct view, you know, we were only like what twenty

1734
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 5: feet from I remember whatever, fifteen feet from him? Or

1735
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 5: if you're a smaller man like myself, do you want

1736
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 5: to go in the more ass in the front and

1737
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 5: either not be able to see or burrow your way

1738
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 5: up to the front, which is possible when you're you know,

1739
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:48,560
Speaker 5: a troll like figure like myself. You know, there's a

1740
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 5: lot of decisions that go into it. I just felt

1741
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 5: like a chill night. I'm just gonna chill on the

1742
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: side with a great sight line. But you're right, probably

1743
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 5: no judgments, bro, no judgments at all. And tonight we're

1744
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 5: gonna meet up with our old buddy Mats Tanton, who's

1745
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 5: worked on our show in the past.

1746
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,800
Speaker 4: He's living out here now. We're trying to get some

1747
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 4: good Texas barbecue, and then yeah, head to the award show. Mark,

1748
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 4: you have predicted victory for us, as I understand.

1749
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 6: I feel strongly that we will win. That's what I've

1750
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 6: said that the feeling grows. Initially I thought we had

1751
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,639
Speaker 6: no chance. We're going against you know, Travis and Jason Kelsey,

1752
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 6: who seemed to have Like America in their vice grip

1753
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 6: at the moment. So it would be an incredible upset.

1754
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 6: But I believe that we're that type of We're that

1755
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 6: type of show. We've always been that type of show,

1756
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 6: and we're hours away from a colossal American story.

1757
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 4: Now.

1758
01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 5: When I found out Club says is like Us also

1759
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 5: distributed by iHeart, but even more directly, I thought that

1760
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 5: was possibly a bad bit of news for us. Mark

1761
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 5: brought up this theory that we're going to win around

1762
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 5: a couple of iHeart executives, I believe last night, and

1763
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 5: one of the women said, you know, it's just all

1764
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 5: about being dominated. I oh, shoot, she that.

1765
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 4: That's not a week go.

1766
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 5: That's not because I think she knows. I think she knows.

1767
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 4: I believe that we will lose. I believe that we

1768
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 4: will will lose. Uh tight end. Will Disley agrees to

1769
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,839
Speaker 4: a three year, fourteen million dollar contract with the Chargers.

1770
01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 4: So Greg did not give Disley any respect h in

1771
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 4: his free agency one oh one, but obviously the Chargers

1772
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 4: thought highly of him. And I do believe that Jim

1773
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 4: Harbaugh knows a little bit about ball, So heads up

1774
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:29,360
Speaker 4: on that.

1775
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 5: I mean, I agree, he just didn't make the one

1776
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 5: oh one, I mean.

1777
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 4: Two thirteen he made us. We had a nice blurb,

1778
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:38,920
Speaker 4: I said.

1779
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 5: Colby Parkinson from the Rams, So I mean, let's not

1780
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 5: get too crazy. I do think the Chargers are going

1781
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 5: to be the team of the next couple of days.

1782
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 5: By the way, maybe they'll sign the Neil Hunter. They'll

1783
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:50,200
Speaker 5: sign some like crazy players and make some trades. They're

1784
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: going to do lots of crazy stuff.

1785
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 4: Mark your will, your will? Disley, Uh, what was your blurb?

1786
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 4: Blurb was unbelievable. It's unfortunately it's going to be lost

1787
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 4: and the edit, but that's okay. It's part of the process.

1788
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 6: I think you just have to enjoy the process and

1789
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 6: realize that some of your better work is going to

1790
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 6: be you know, invisible, but not to yourself.

1791
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,680
Speaker 4: We've lost we've lost roughly twenty one hundred words of

1792
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 4: content so far with guys coming off the board.

1793
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 5: But you guys are like Sophia Coppola's Elvis movie, was it?

1794
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 5: Was it good?

1795
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 6: Was it? Baud?

1796
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 5: Who knows? Because an Elvis movie came out like right

1797
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,240
Speaker 5: before it and no one wanted another Elvis movie.

1798
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 4: I'll just go again, Mark, I got this No, just

1799
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:33,879
Speaker 4: a no, Actually I saw the Coppola.

1800
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 5: It is a solid B minus.

1801
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:40,680
Speaker 4: That is Coppola. Coppola. Sorry, yeah, Coppola. All right, that's it.

1802
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 4: That's it for this show. Yes, we'll be back. If

1803
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 4: we have a trophy, that would be amazing. Like with

1804
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 4: the Oscars that just happened on Sunday, they everyone gets

1805
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 4: an Oscar right when you win, like if you win, yes,

1806
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 4: you know, best cinematography, Like everyone on the team gets

1807
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 4: an Oscar, right, Like we're gonna get three trophy right.

1808
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like everyone in our building apparently, even people deep

1809
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 6: in the IT department have Emmys, and we are the

1810
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 6: three people without Emmys apparently in the entire building. Right,

1811
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 6: and so yes, they give it to everyone except for us, apparently,

1812
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 6: So this is our vengeance? Yes are you asking? Well

1813
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 6: one of the three, one of us get a trophy

1814
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 6: and who's I.

1815
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 5: Mean supporting actor? You know, just one guy gets it?

1816
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,840
Speaker 4: There? Well, we could keep it in the Chris West

1817
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 4: podcast studio, or we could kind of have a rotating

1818
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 4: We could have Eric maybe work up an Excel spreadsheet

1819
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: and we could kind of share it throughout their year.

1820
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 5: Have you know, just cut it into three parts and

1821
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 5: we each take apart home.

1822
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's an option as well. Big Funk chimes

1823
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 4: in in the chat, like the Stanley Cup. Yeah, you

1824
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,600
Speaker 4: take it home, you get drunk with it, you have it,

1825
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 4: you have a good old time with your friends, and

1826
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 4: then you hand it to the next person, hopefully without

1827
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:56,720
Speaker 4: a dent.

1828
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 6: Don't do you get it into the music? Don't they

1829
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 6: have enough at this point? They have enough? Who the

1830
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 6: Kelsey's they've been given, they're not going to get. You

1831
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 6: got forty speeches. I don't like anything you do. One

1832
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 6: interview that goes viral and now we're going to give

1833
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 6: him awards.

1834
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,879
Speaker 5: I think it's very popular in general.

1835
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 4: But Eric, you could hit the music literally anytime.

1836
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 5: There is a trade though. We have developing news. The

1837
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 5: Lions are acquiring cornerback Carlton Davis from the Bucks, according

1838
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 5: to the Pell Raiser, and he's not sharing this scoop.

1839
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,599
Speaker 5: He's putting this out all by himself. That's a player

1840
01:28:33,600 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 5: who makes, you know, over fifteen million dollars a year.

1841
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 5: That's what some deep people would consider a number one

1842
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 5: cornerback at the Big Time Trader.

1843
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 4: You're getting played off like it's the OSCARS. Congratulations Hill.

1844
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 4: Tomorrow he the call.