Speaker 1: Both those really, I mean we both gets the gentleman.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. This
Speaker 2: is episode number two hundred something, two hundred twenty nine
Speaker 2: to twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's talk about something near and dear to
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Speaker 2: seemed Chevy would be ecstatic to no.
Speaker 3: We walked into a room yesterday sponsored by a different brand,
Speaker 3: different brand, and we stayed ten toes down, talked a
Speaker 3: little shit and told everybody get their ass in the
Speaker 3: new Chevy EV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're proud of us. Yeah, we're saying with the brand.
Speaker 2: We did a Q and A and a gentleman was
Speaker 2: talking to us and said, says, tell me about a
Speaker 2: vehicle with a horse. And I looked this man in
Speaker 2: the eye and said, there's no fucking chance. I didn't
Speaker 2: say fucking because there's a lot of people in nurse kids.
Speaker 2: There's no chance I would ever be caught in a
Speaker 2: vehicle like that. We are Chevy guys through and through.
Speaker 2: Then I then I took the moment to tell them
Speaker 2: about the new EV that you can actually test drive
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: He is dream. It is a dream.
Speaker 4: It is a dream.
Speaker 1: You know else is a dream? Dude.
Speaker 2: Kevin Bayern, the mayor of Murphy's Brus, come on this podcast.
Speaker 2: It was an electric time the minute this pod started.
Speaker 2: It was war stories, it was fun times. It was
Speaker 2: remember this when this happened? Everyone and that happened. Oh
Speaker 2: I hate when this happens. Awe OTAs is like this
Speaker 2: camp like this, dude. It was elite and we hit
Speaker 2: that what last week?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we hit it last week as KB. If everybody
Speaker 3: all the OG's out there, who's been a day one
Speaker 3: with this? KB was like at first five seven, podcast
Speaker 3: number eight, okay, number eight, number eight, he's the number
Speaker 3: eight pop ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he kind of checked.
Speaker 3: This on why he hasn't been on in a minute,
Speaker 3: but oh good, Yeah, it was a fucking awesome time.
Speaker 3: Man like Varabel Stories Year one, Verabel Stories versus the
Speaker 3: way Vrabel is like, it's it is a good time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a fucking good time. If you're in that, if
Speaker 3: you're a Tennessee fan, you're gonna absolutely love this. But
Speaker 3: if you're about listening to locker room stories and everything else.
Speaker 2: Like this is the episode if you like football, you're
Speaker 2: gonna love this podcast right right. But the boys had
Speaker 2: a crazy week last weekend. Boys is just getting crazier
Speaker 2: and crazier. The week opening a barstool the boys were
Speaker 2: out there, Oh yeah, boys were out there. A line
Speaker 2: was literally wrapped around the fucking block we were. I
Speaker 2: think it was supposed to be just like an hour,
Speaker 2: hour and a half. I think we're there for over
Speaker 2: two hours. Barstool Bars got a shot. Bars gotta start
Speaker 2: to make out a shot. It's open yeah.
Speaker 1: Open concept or bars indoor, outdoor, all for Broadway or
Speaker 1: around downtown.
Speaker 2: Massive, very competent bar. I haven't into all the bars
Speaker 2: on Broadway. I probably have been not in a long time.
Speaker 2: This might be the most well put together bar on Broadway.
Speaker 2: Everything start up, dude. If you're in the Fall and
Speaker 2: you're in and you're on Broadway and you're thinking, where
Speaker 2: can I watch the big game? Going into the bar
Speaker 2: stool bar, there's enough TVs for each person in that
Speaker 2: damn bar. And this would be live music, playing VIP tables,
Speaker 2: table service. That's a new concept in Nashville. And busting
Speaker 2: with the boys tailgates and busting with the boys tailgates.
Speaker 2: There's gonna be that's a new concept in Nashville as
Speaker 2: the whole like VIP bottle service thing. Your boy group
Speaker 2: in Arizona and Scott's the Arizona There's that's all you
Speaker 2: get there down in Old Town. Every single bar you
Speaker 2: go to there's bottle service with the Sparklers and the
Speaker 2: Twizzlers and all that.
Speaker 1: People do that.
Speaker 2: I know another bar I'm not gonna say their name,
Speaker 2: but they do it near Broadway. This is kind of
Speaker 2: like the second one in on the Broadway scheme that
Speaker 2: kind of does the bottle service cool thing. We'll see
Speaker 2: how it works out for them in that way, but
Speaker 2: I have no doubt that bar will be extremely success.
Speaker 3: Also like a good mix too, Like again the biggest
Speaker 3: stage in downtown Nashville, like they're gonna have they're gonna
Speaker 3: have singers there, performers there. I think that's where it's
Speaker 3: gonna That's where that's the make or break right there,
Speaker 3: bringing in down talent because.
Speaker 1: It is a it's a nice bar.
Speaker 3: It's a nice bart, wide open, it's got like a
Speaker 3: half kind of rooftop up top right. Uh. And it's
Speaker 3: not right what street is that off of? Like I
Speaker 3: know it's off off Broadway. Yeah, because you're not like
Speaker 3: in the thing to where your shoulder to shouldered with
Speaker 3: all the fucking with the griminess down there that can
Speaker 3: be on Broadway.
Speaker 1: You're just far enough away to be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: having a good fucking put an easy walk you see it.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, enjoy the spectacle and then come to the
Speaker 2: fun bar. And then at the fun Bar, I know
Speaker 2: there's probably gonna be an adoate at some point. We
Speaker 2: haven't read the ads for this podcast yet, but Boys.
Speaker 3: The Biggest it announced the biggest move coming out of
Speaker 3: last week. The boys have now partnered. It is official.
Speaker 3: We're the Twisted Kings. We're partnered with Twisted Tea. But
Speaker 3: the bus is wrapped. I'm sure you guys have seeing
Speaker 3: the photos of Not sure they'll pop up right now
Speaker 3: on the YouTube before watching YouTube comment comet.
Speaker 1: But the Twisted King.
Speaker 2: Twisted Kings are really truly out here, dude and I
Speaker 2: we control out deleted a few of these things during
Speaker 2: this meet and great and let me tell you, every
Speaker 2: single time it went down smooth.
Speaker 1: It tastes from the first sip to the last sip,
Speaker 1: twist the tea truly taste delicious. Oh what do we
Speaker 1: have here? Amazing right here?
Speaker 3: What the boys are about to keep it twisted all
Speaker 3: summer with Twisted Tea tastes like real I think real
Speaker 3: iced tea because it's made with real Brood tea, meaning
Speaker 3: it's absolutely delicious when you think summer it's hot, just
Speaker 3: like it wasn't fucking Nascar, absolutely craving a nice tea
Speaker 3: and ice twisted tea, real brewd tea with a kick
Speaker 3: five percent ABV, full flavor and very refreshing. Twisted Tea
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Speaker 3: zero carbonation, which makes it easy to drink all day long.
Speaker 3: Not to mention football season, the best product to sip
Speaker 3: on while you're watching your favorite team. Twist the Tea
Speaker 3: feels fun and celebrates extreme fandom on game day. Twist
Speaker 3: the Tea is the perfect alcohol beverage four game day.
Speaker 3: Whether you're tailgating in a lot, watching at a bar,
Speaker 3: barstool bar, watching with friends at home, Twisted Tea is
Speaker 3: there to turn up your game day. Keep it twisted, Boys,
Speaker 3: grab a Twisted refreshing tea today.
Speaker 1: Anywhere you can get on my thing pretty much fucking everywhere.
Speaker 2: And there's no there's no secret that when the Boys
Speaker 2: get a big partner, we sell the fuck out. We
Speaker 2: sell the fuck out for are the people that believe
Speaker 2: in us.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be no different.
Speaker 2: This thing might be kicked on steroids and a fucking her,
Speaker 2: there's gonna be some twenty nineteen lawn going on here
Speaker 2: with this twisted tea. We're gonna be going absolutely nuts
Speaker 2: on this fall tour with twisted tea. If I see
Speaker 2: you and you try to chuck a beer with me,
Speaker 2: I might kick you in the balls you come up
Speaker 2: to me with a twisted tea. It's on site, brother,
Speaker 2: it is on site at the Fall Tour. I hope
Speaker 2: to god, let's we're taking down everybody. We're taking down
Speaker 2: everywhere with twist the tea, and then we'll see where
Speaker 2: that goes from there.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 2: I love the energy. I fucking love the it. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be fucking Olympics. Olympics. I read that on the
Speaker 2: thing Olympics are you people are watching right now? While
Speaker 2: you're watching, I know those is Riders dies, those tier
Speaker 2: ones here that pop on in the six am.
Speaker 1: And we appreciate the fuck out of you.
Speaker 2: And you're probably watching us right now, and your heart's
Speaker 2: fucking moving a little faster as I'm talking about you, brother,
Speaker 2: as you're leaving comments and telling your boys about it.
Speaker 2: Beer Olympics is out today at noon. We will kick
Speaker 2: off to find out who is the greatest drinker over
Speaker 2: the greatest genres in entertainment, we're talking about musicians, we're
Speaker 2: talking about comedians with NFL players, NHL players, comedians.
Speaker 1: It is truly. We have called in every single favor. Scapes.
Speaker 2: Look through the globe, gone across to Russia during a
Speaker 2: civil war, mind you, through the forest, found the best drinkers,
Speaker 2: brought their asses over to America on a visa, and
Speaker 2: we are going pound for pound, toes to toe with everybody,
Speaker 2: and we're coming out victorious. I can almost fucking guarantee it.
Speaker 2: But any given Tuesday, all right, brother, you.
Speaker 1: Are getting the blood flowing below the belt. Right.
Speaker 2: I woke up today, Dude, I put this on and
Speaker 2: reminded me of high school football.
Speaker 1: Dude on a Friday, Friday night lights, you put your
Speaker 1: own jersey on.
Speaker 2: You take here, go up to that girl you're talking to.
Speaker 2: You don't know what you guys are yet. You haven't
Speaker 2: defined the relationship even yard a.
Speaker 1: Couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you kind of had a weird, awkward makeout, like
Speaker 2: grinding the denim on her a little bit at a
Speaker 2: party that a couple of saturdays ago in the jeans.
Speaker 2: But brother, that callous is gonna make you last a
Speaker 2: little longer.
Speaker 1: In the long run.
Speaker 2: That's a little the gift for you guys out there.
Speaker 2: You go to her with your practice jersey, you say
Speaker 2: you want to wear this, you go the the middle
Speaker 2: of the week, he's.
Speaker 1: Also wearing that. Brother, you're in there. So I put
Speaker 1: this bitch on today and I'm feeling I know, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling fucking ready do so excited.
Speaker 2: We'll have the headbands, the pit vipers, the twisted tea
Speaker 2: jersey which will come out, come off very quickly. It's
Speaker 2: gonna be a hot, sunny, sunny day tomorrow, so I
Speaker 2: cannot wait to get catch myself in nice tans.
Speaker 1: Not brutally hot like it wasn't as eighty.
Speaker 2: Seven, sonny. It'll be four degrees cooler than it was yesterday,
Speaker 2: just saying that. Yeah, it was a different animal that
Speaker 2: humidity was like. But brother, we live in this heat.
Speaker 2: The men and women come out in doing this festivities,
Speaker 2: they're not used to this heat. They will be put
Speaker 2: in a blender by event too, and that's where we
Speaker 2: will start to thrive. We will use the adversity to
Speaker 2: help us.
Speaker 1: That is what's gonna happen. I bet you.
Speaker 2: Speaking of lights came out dude, yesterday we were at NASCAR,
Speaker 2: and let me tell you what the whole Taladaga night's
Speaker 2: the fucking roaring of the engine. That's a real fucking
Speaker 2: deal man, those it is not only was it so hot,
Speaker 2: I gotta assume. And in those nascars they don't have
Speaker 2: the best AC units in there.
Speaker 1: Am I right?
Speaker 2: They're not rocket AC units. They probably don't have a
Speaker 2: camel back with a little the straw with the water.
Speaker 2: Those boys are going four hundred and five hundred miles
Speaker 2: whatever it is, the ally four hundred is what it was.
Speaker 2: I had a hard time dialing that and saw a
Speaker 2: bunch of people from barstools. Spider and Large were by
Speaker 2: far the most excited to be there, by far the
Speaker 2: most excited to be there.
Speaker 3: But I mean, Spider knows everybody. I'm talking the drivers,
Speaker 3: the pick crew, anybody. If you're rolling tires, he knows you.
Speaker 3: They're all a Spider.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: He's tucking everybody. George, Ay, you gotta meet this guy.
Speaker 3: You gotta meet this ice giving you background, he's giving
Speaker 3: you context. All of a sudden, you're shaking hands with
Speaker 3: a fucking uh bounty hunter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Talk about him all Swan. You saw the boy was
Speaker 3: he's not.
Speaker 2: Do you mind if I go ahead and Will tells
Speaker 2: me because I didn't go to NASCAR last year I
Speaker 2: was in Canada, Will tells me about this gentleman, Paul Swan.
Speaker 2: He's like, dude's good looking cat, built like a brick
Speaker 2: shiit house, gotta fade the whole thing, literally selling this
Speaker 2: guy over and over and over again for an entire year.
Speaker 1: We're talking about three sixty five now.
Speaker 2: Last week Will kept talking about, I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see swanee, I can't wait to see swany blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: We get there, Paul Swan, I know you're a big,
Speaker 2: big busting fan. You were everything and more that Will
Speaker 2: described you as. Because that doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Was that energy just he like fucking transfers it to
Speaker 3: your body?
Speaker 2: It does, he really does. He pulled out, he fucking
Speaker 2: ripped it. He had the two chains dangling, the hair
Speaker 2: coming out that strong jawlne beautiful green eyes, strong eye,
Speaker 2: beautiful green eyes just doesn't lose form, but just got that.
Speaker 1: Nice little bounce. Yeah it does.
Speaker 2: Dude, overall, man, that was a you very rarely do
Speaker 2: you hype somebody up and they meet that expectation.
Speaker 1: That man met that expectation. I love that. That does
Speaker 1: fire me up. That does fire me up. Should we Uh?
Speaker 3: Let's because we said we swre to ourselves fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: not do a long interest so people could listen to
Speaker 3: four minutes. Yeah, so people could listen to Kevin Byer,
Speaker 3: which is a phenomenal podcast. And because we got to
Speaker 3: go set up for Beer Olympics, which is this is
Speaker 3: being recorded on yesterday, it is now Tuesday.
Speaker 1: We got to go set up.
Speaker 3: So saying that, let's get to our favorite segment, shout out,
Speaker 3: no free shout out and pet pee's.
Speaker 1: I hope you have your couple.
Speaker 3: Mitch is going to do a shout out, no free
Speaker 3: shout out, and Jack Jackie boy back there's gonna do
Speaker 3: his pet peeve. But let's get shout out no free
Speaker 3: shout out kicked off, Mitch.
Speaker 1: What do you have for the people? Brother?
Speaker 5: My shout out no free shout out this week goes
Speaker 5: to some of the guys around here. Know that I've
Speaker 5: sort of been struggling mentally the last couple last couple
Speaker 5: of days, just going through something like in my personal life,
Speaker 5: not the most fun thing but the overwhelming support, like
Speaker 5: from like the boys around, like like of all of
Speaker 5: us my friends, like hey, if you need to talk
Speaker 5: to somebody, I'm here.
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Like it sucks everything da da
Speaker 1: da dah, but like we're.
Speaker 5: Here for you if you ever need to talk about anything,
Speaker 5: just letting you know that we're here. My shadow know
Speaker 5: I for your shadow goes to those friends that they
Speaker 5: have your back no matter what. When you're going through
Speaker 5: something that sucks and you're like just super down on yourself,
Speaker 5: those boys that have your back and be like, yo,
Speaker 5: if you need to talk about anything, I'm here for you,
Speaker 5: like I got you so respect to all those boys.
Speaker 5: Love y'all, love you guys. It's awesome. I appreciate it
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, MAT's it's hard to go through things alone.
Speaker 2: But when you have a good crew around you to
Speaker 2: kind of lift you up, dude, it does soften the
Speaker 2: blow a little bit. We're all thinking about Mitchie right now.
Speaker 2: Not going to talk about it right, We're not going
Speaker 2: to talk about it, but we do know, Hey, smooth
Speaker 2: seas they ever made a skilled sailor. Brother, You're gonna
Speaker 2: be better coming out of this one.
Speaker 1: You want to go. You want me to go.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my shot out, no free shoutout is going
Speaker 3: to go to. And it's been we had tight in
Speaker 3: you last week, we had the barstool bar. We've had
Speaker 3: a lot of things going on, a lot of energy
Speaker 3: being given everywhere long days. Wife is out of town
Speaker 3: last week, so I'm watching them on dad duty when
Speaker 3: I get home. All that kind of stuff, NASCAR last night,
Speaker 3: all the things. My shot out, no free shot out,
Speaker 3: is when them legs are fucking exhausted. You feel them ankles,
Speaker 3: you feel them joints, you feel them knees, you feel
Speaker 3: that inflammation, you're ready to get off your feet. And
Speaker 3: my shoutout is when them legs are laying comfortably in
Speaker 3: them bamboo sheets, when you're taking that load off and
Speaker 3: you're just laying there and you're just so thankful to
Speaker 3: be in your bed and you're you feel the exhaustedness
Speaker 3: of your legs, but it's almost like a comfortable feeling
Speaker 3: because they're so exhausted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is my shot out, no free shoutout. That's
Speaker 1: a great shout out. No for shutout.
Speaker 2: My shout out, no free shoutout is going to go
Speaker 2: to when someone's talking shit, and you have the ability
Speaker 2: to put them in their fucking place, when you were
Speaker 2: able to sound somebody after they've used all the words,
Speaker 2: said all the things of what they're gonna do to you,
Speaker 2: and you shut them the fuck up. And I did
Speaker 2: not do this myself, but I witnessed it at tight end.
Speaker 2: You when Will Compton beat the fuck at a billy
Speaker 2: football and when Billy was talking mad trash from the
Speaker 2: minute we saw him until his unfortunate demise, as you
Speaker 2: bodied his bitch ass two separate times, not once, but twice.
Speaker 2: And in my head as like, man, there's nothing better
Speaker 2: when you like you're on the football field with the boys,
Speaker 2: I have practice and someone's talking shit.
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, line it up, line it up,
Speaker 1: and then you hem.
Speaker 2: Their bitch ass up. There's not a better feeling everybody's watching.
Speaker 3: Because that's nothing but downside right there, Like it's like
Speaker 3: beating a girl in a fight.
Speaker 1: There's really no coming out of that window. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm with you, except for when I made him take
Speaker 3: a knee and say, hey, look at yourself, really get
Speaker 3: the fuck up.
Speaker 1: That was the best thing to happen.
Speaker 3: You were there too, Like when he first came up,
Speaker 3: he's like literally chirping, and I'm kind of like, you know,
Speaker 3: I wasn't necessarily trying to get out, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to get out there and do anything. You know, the
Speaker 3: boys got the little back, you got some stuff. You know,
Speaker 3: you're not warming up, you're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: And it's all like you said, it's all downside for you, right.
Speaker 1: I haven't done a speed work.
Speaker 3: I hadn't done much running at all since the Atlanta
Speaker 3: work out the year before. So I'm thinking, like, yo,
Speaker 3: if I get got by Billy, my fucking reputation is over.
Speaker 3: But this motherfucker just keeps chirping, begging, begging, will please
Speaker 3: do it? Do that in the name of content. You're
Speaker 3: suck you wash you like you don't want to do
Speaker 3: it because you know I beat your ass and so hey,
Speaker 3: we lined it up, dude, and your boy wasn't he
Speaker 3: You know you.
Speaker 1: Weren't even wearing cleats. You were not wearing clean Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was not wearing cleats, and.
Speaker 2: Billy, a word of the wise brother, don't run a
Speaker 2: fucking fade with cleats on when you know your opponent
Speaker 2: doesn't have cleats on. Do you like a in and
Speaker 2: out for the quick out. He's gonna slip, dumb ass motherfucker.
Speaker 2: When I saw that and he ran a fade, I
Speaker 2: was like, he just watches highlights and goes, oh, that's easy.
Speaker 1: I could still do that.
Speaker 2: He sees DeAndre Hopkins go over the top off of
Speaker 2: hand and do that, He's like, Oh, that's the easiest
Speaker 2: way to get somebody.
Speaker 1: My brother and dude shout.
Speaker 3: Out a fadeause, oh you want them again, and it's like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck are you talking about.
Speaker 1: You didn't even do anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and also shout out to PFT for throwing a
Speaker 2: good ball, like PFT could not have thrown a ball. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good balls couldn't have thrown the ball any better in
Speaker 2: those situations.
Speaker 3: So I can argue about that. But the receiver, like
Speaker 3: he's fading away from the ball. You gotta go up
Speaker 3: and get that shit. It's all about who wants it
Speaker 3: most there.
Speaker 2: Also, if the ball is underthrown, which I don't believe
Speaker 2: it was, maybe the first one was go back towards
Speaker 2: the defender right and draw the penalty right.
Speaker 1: Fucking one on one, dude, that's fucking one on one.
Speaker 2: Ball was out of his depths figure, but in a hurry,
Speaker 2: shout out no free shadow Jack, Oh sixteen minutes. I'm
Speaker 2: pet pee pet Pee. You're a pet peeve. Sorry either
Speaker 2: the week pet Peeve for the week. We are pet
Speaker 2: pet pee for the week, Peppy of the week.
Speaker 6: It's usually late at night when you're watching TV and
Speaker 6: that remote somehow continually becomes lost. Last night, I was
Speaker 6: watching a show and I lost the remote for a
Speaker 6: sec and I found it.
Speaker 1: It's always in a place that's so odd.
Speaker 6: It's like whether it's like in between a bed sheet
Speaker 6: or something, and I find it. I'm not getting like
Speaker 6: four more times within an hour, I couldn't find this remote.
Speaker 6: By the fourth time, I'm just like, man, I'm just
Speaker 6: turning this fucking TV off, Like I just can't even
Speaker 6: enjoy because the show would end and then it's on
Speaker 6: Hulu when it doesn't automatically skip to the next episode,
Speaker 6: so you have to then have the remote to change it.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there just like, man.
Speaker 6: I just I think that was just a long day
Speaker 6: and out, like the little things are getting to me.
Speaker 6: So it's yeah, it's whenever you can't find the remote.
Speaker 6: It said that that gets under my skin.
Speaker 1: And how have our like first world problems.
Speaker 6: I know my grandfather would be sick here and there, Brode.
Speaker 2: But also like it back then, it'd be the pet peeve,
Speaker 2: like you're the channel thing not turning, just fucking We're
Speaker 2: on Hulu.
Speaker 1: It doesn't just automatically go to the next episode, not
Speaker 1: getting content.
Speaker 2: Just stream to me to shove it in my face. Dude,
Speaker 2: come on, what are we doing? Yeah, that is a
Speaker 2: tough deal. You want to hit shout out? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: my shout out, no free shout out. It happened to
Speaker 2: me this past Saturday.
Speaker 1: It's it's just oh no, sorry, my pet peeve. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I keep messing that up.
Speaker 2: My pet peeve goes to situational awareness when you're at
Speaker 2: a cash register. I was at the Franklin factory with
Speaker 2: my family, my brother in law, his girlfriend, and we
Speaker 2: are waiting in line to get my daughter's ossi abels.
Speaker 2: They are bitching and wine about wanting ossi abuls for
Speaker 2: the longest time. We had to get a couple of
Speaker 2: things at the farmer's market.
Speaker 1: Would go to get it. Now I'm waiting in line.
Speaker 2: People go up and they're in the middle of a
Speaker 2: conversation going to the cash re stirt. That's fine. But
Speaker 2: they're talking and then the the person leaves and they're waiting.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, brother, like you're up next, go
Speaker 2: get your ordering. They finally get their ordering after they
Speaker 2: realize it's our turn. Then after they check out and
Speaker 2: they pay with the card, they sit and continue to
Speaker 2: have the conversation running for the cash register. Now I
Speaker 2: can't get to the cash register to order my daughters
Speaker 2: to basic osi ebols.
Speaker 1: Know.
Speaker 2: So just my pet peeve is get the fuck out
Speaker 2: of the way once you ordered your shit. That's it simple. Also,
Speaker 2: it had a couple of long days, and I was
Speaker 2: gonna say, Jack, when you have a couple of long days,
Speaker 2: that's when you find out your pet peeves.
Speaker 1: You find them out a long days. At the end
Speaker 1: of days when you need to.
Speaker 2: Start writing down your pet peeves, say everything bugs the
Speaker 2: fuck out of you everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, caffeine wasn't hint right.
Speaker 2: I was just like whife and I were a little
Speaker 2: chippy at each other in the car right over and
Speaker 2: literally at like later in that day, we were like, hey,
Speaker 2: this morning almost got tough.
Speaker 1: Hunh.
Speaker 2: It was like one of those deals. We're like, we
Speaker 2: kind of went silent for a second. It was a
Speaker 2: little tight earlier, wouldn't it It was tight, but we
Speaker 2: got Hey, we got through it a strong urge.
Speaker 3: No, buddy, my pet peeve is going to be there
Speaker 3: is a war going on right now. And because I've
Speaker 3: been a little bit more public about it recently, but
Speaker 3: making sure forgetting to take your trash bends out to
Speaker 3: the to the end of the driveway, and I guess
Speaker 3: it goes to the real pet peeve is me forgetting
Speaker 3: But right now it's going to be forgetting to take
Speaker 3: your trash out to the end of the curve. Last
Speaker 3: week we had tight end you. We had to get
Speaker 3: the tight end. You doing all the things well again,
Speaker 3: why I shut it down? Your boys heads and a blend.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure it out like any gritty fucking
Speaker 3: father would, and literally the nanny's over and I'm thinking, like, hey,
Speaker 3: fucking hey, you saw a tweet last night and you
Speaker 3: laugh at it trash trash Day, literally talking about trash
Speaker 3: Day in front of her, And I don't know what
Speaker 3: fucking happens to my brain between then and getting literally
Speaker 3: getting in the truck right after I'm talking about that.
Speaker 3: Grab my bag, rib my lunchbox, wrapped the stuff like
Speaker 3: you to make sure that make sure the twisted tea
Speaker 3: pit pipes are ready to go all this shit.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: I get in the truck and I'm driving. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm down the road and then I realized I forgot.
Speaker 3: I fucking forgot to take the trash bens out to
Speaker 3: the end of the driveway.
Speaker 2: Did you see your neighbors have their trash bins out?
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do that sometimes that happens, but I didn't
Speaker 2: catch it there. I would have just went back in
Speaker 2: the driveway and did it.
Speaker 3: I was down because I'm trying to make the uh
Speaker 3: we had the Josh Allen episode to do, and once
Speaker 3: I forgot, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, God, damn it will dude.
Speaker 3: I get so fucking mad at myself when I forget things,
Speaker 3: especially when I'm literally saying always trash thatay your boys
Speaker 3: about the body bag.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker. Negative self talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, negative self talk. I'm an expert in that with myself.
Speaker 3: I just berayed myself. And so, like any good dynasty does,
Speaker 3: it's depth. It's next man up mentality shot her a note, Hey,
Speaker 3: do you mind wheeling that thing out there, and if
Speaker 3: you could please keep this between me and you do
Speaker 3: not let the wife know. I think the key here
Speaker 3: is that I remember that it was trash day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just didn't fully execute you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And that's half the battle. Yeah, that's half the battle.
Speaker 3: But my pepeeve of the week is fucking forgetting to
Speaker 3: take your trash out there. But I do love the fathers,
Speaker 3: the men out there that are rallying around and fucking
Speaker 3: reminding me, and we're all working together to make sure Hey,
Speaker 3: trash days tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Boys, Let's get them things out there.
Speaker 2: Respect respect that brother, what day we went over six minutes.
Speaker 2: I'm proud of that. Let's get in this KP episode.
Speaker 2: Let's get in the KB episode. Let's fuck let's rip
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Speaker 1: I love that. When you love Ball, you know fucking
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Speaker 1: Now enjoy the Kevin Byern episode. Were you one of
Speaker 1: the first five pods?
Speaker 4: For sure, because I remember it was like Delayey Braves
Speaker 4: I was on.
Speaker 3: Because I was like, a kay, b you mind hopping
Speaker 3: on the bus? I was sure was nervous asking everybody
Speaker 3: back then, Bro, what was.
Speaker 2: Your thought process when we figured out we were making
Speaker 2: a podcast, because at that time, nobody was really doing podcasts.
Speaker 1: Did you think anything of it?
Speaker 4: I mean at first, I remember obviously when Will first
Speaker 4: got him to join the team, like it's funny at shit,
Speaker 4: like cool personality. Both of you guys hit it off,
Speaker 4: and I remember one day he was in the locker room.
Speaker 4: I forget, I don't remember what there was. He was like,
Speaker 4: it's kind of asking guys like, Bro, I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: doing a podcast. And it's before like obviously, like it
Speaker 4: wasn't a whole lot of athletes doing podcasts. So I
Speaker 4: was like, Bro, you be dope at it. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Like you got a really good personality
Speaker 4: and everything. But I didn't know if he's actually going
Speaker 4: to do it or not. But I was like, Bro,
Speaker 4: you will be dope at it. So Bro, you need
Speaker 4: just to see where podcasts are now, and you know,
Speaker 4: everybody want to do a podcast that you were kind
Speaker 4: of like pioneers.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, you love bothered you.
Speaker 3: Logan Ryan and Derek Morgan, where guys are like, oh
Speaker 3: you should do it, Like oh, those are the three
Speaker 3: solid the pillars that gave me like the validation or
Speaker 3: like the confidence because you when when I was it's
Speaker 3: like when I go through it in my mind, like
Speaker 3: you know, anything with athletes, right, like when you're in
Speaker 3: the locker room where you go in you got a
Speaker 3: business endeavor going on or something else that you're doing
Speaker 3: outside of ball. You're always curious when you step in
Speaker 3: the locker room, like if you're gonna get chirped at
Speaker 3: or what's going on, Like, oh, you're doing this, now
Speaker 3: you're doing that. So you always want to like the
Speaker 3: validation of your peers. And I feel like when I
Speaker 3: asked that and you guys responded that way, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: maybe maybe I'm just in my own head too much
Speaker 3: about that stuff.
Speaker 2: Especially when we first started the next year with Brabel,
Speaker 2: like we'd be in team meetings you weren't on the team,
Speaker 2: Brabel would like chirp me about doing a podcast.
Speaker 1: Or definitely teasing, yeah, teasing.
Speaker 2: And then obviously when you came on in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: It's like, let's see what our head of media is
Speaker 2: up to today. Yeah, and you're tweeting about whatever. It's
Speaker 2: a hairy deal doing something in the public eye outside
Speaker 2: of football, right.
Speaker 7: It was also new too.
Speaker 4: Yeah what I'm saying like, and I don't know if
Speaker 4: it was like a I do won't to call the
Speaker 4: stigma or anything like that, but you know, I'll be
Speaker 4: you know, being with the Titans, like you have your
Speaker 4: media rules and stuff like that, but just be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: most players, I feel like, don't really want to put
Speaker 4: themselves out there in the media that much and kind
Speaker 4: of be on that side while you're still playing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It just like a balance.
Speaker 3: So especially when you can there's so much up for
Speaker 3: interpretation because it's like the very first podcast I remember, Uh, Taylor.
Speaker 1: Hit me up.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, we had a team meeting because the
Speaker 3: Delaney episode was making its rounds like on Pro Football
Speaker 3: talking and everything else about the team IV. He's like, man,
Speaker 3: I felt like I was about to die. So the
Speaker 3: headline Raiders Preseason Titans IV. You know, I don't think
Speaker 3: it was this, but almost came up to me and
Speaker 3: he was like what the fuck. Yeah, the first week,
Speaker 3: I was like Rave runs a meeting the first week,
Speaker 3: and I remember, because you know rap rap'ess first year
Speaker 3: as a head coach, sitting in those meetings, just you know,
Speaker 3: he's a lot different than he is now.
Speaker 1: For sure. He was.
Speaker 7: He was a lot.
Speaker 2: He sucked the first Everybody hated Raves the first year,
Speaker 2: you could say it.
Speaker 1: I mean it was everybody like, who the fuck is
Speaker 1: this guy?
Speaker 7: I never forget not sucking.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 1: He was so rough from the edges.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember our first meeting there OTAs rays first
Speaker 4: year and I think this is this is the year
Speaker 4: that you signed your contracts. Then, yeah, I remember the
Speaker 4: first meeting. You know, obviously he used to have the
Speaker 4: low lights. He don't really do it no more, but
Speaker 4: he had the low lights. And the first play was
Speaker 4: like us and Shorts. It was a run play there
Speaker 4: going up the left and like Taylor blocked this guy
Speaker 4: and it kind of did like a home run trot
Speaker 4: because you know, Derek had broke kind of I want
Speaker 4: to say, you jogged, but you kind of did the
Speaker 4: home run trap of about ten yards and he literally
Speaker 4: just like lit Taylor up. I was like, oh shoot,
Speaker 4: like he went in every bo I'm like, Retail's one
Speaker 4: of the best left tackles in the league. Like he's
Speaker 4: getting into him for like for something that I felt
Speaker 4: like it was just just a regular play, like nobody.
Speaker 1: Really paying attentions murdered. I was like, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: So after that point, every team meeting, you know, when
Speaker 4: the lights win low and he cut that film.
Speaker 1: On everybody, kind of laying everyone's.
Speaker 4: Almost written to the meeting room, like, as long as
Speaker 4: I'm not on this low lights the first ten, I'm
Speaker 4: good to go.
Speaker 1: I had a good practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but every every practice there'll be like two or
Speaker 2: three players you're like those could be on and you're like.
Speaker 1: Man, do you mean like I hope you don't put
Speaker 1: this place?
Speaker 2: I know you look at like the timeline of practice.
Speaker 2: You look at Indian you're like, all right, it's coming.
Speaker 2: It's like the first team period and you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: it was in the first team period. That's gone like
Speaker 2: the third team period, then back to the first tame
Speaker 2: period and get your asking.
Speaker 1: Like fuck dude, thinking about it. But my worst one
Speaker 1: was JPP.
Speaker 2: He put that killer move on me. Wasn't mean like
Speaker 2: we're paying you for this, and I'm like god, damn
Speaker 2: man oh Man.
Speaker 3: Rabe was the first head coach that Uh, basically it
Speaker 3: was a team meeting and you went over all these
Speaker 3: a lot of these plays of practice because usually the
Speaker 3: head coach would just address kind of the team and
Speaker 3: talk about things you need to get better at, things
Speaker 3: were kind of lacking. Maybe show a couple of plays
Speaker 3: you break out and handle all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: like with your position coach.
Speaker 1: So smaller groups.
Speaker 3: So when you're out there sitting in this team meeting
Speaker 3: and Rape's going over everything. Because even at ot As
Speaker 3: he talked about how you need to know your teammates,
Speaker 3: you talk about quizzing them every day, and you couldn't like,
Speaker 3: you know, say you take a bunch set and if
Speaker 3: at another place we called it cluster. Like if you
Speaker 3: spoke any different verbiage, he's fucking.
Speaker 1: Hard on you.
Speaker 3: I remember Jayon, would I always have to go through
Speaker 3: some morning curse was saying the right verbage? And uh,
Speaker 3: what is it like the double near gun when the
Speaker 3: when this he's tight?
Speaker 1: What is he? What did he like to call this
Speaker 1: week week?
Speaker 3: You have to say week sideb or Rashan when it
Speaker 3: was his rookies always got it the worst. But you
Speaker 3: just be sitting there just fucking tight man, and you
Speaker 3: go through players and it didn't matter. Remember that one
Speaker 3: undrafted cat where it's like, brother, you need to figure
Speaker 3: out if you want to play, because I don't think
Speaker 3: you want to play, man. You need to go home,
Speaker 3: and you need to go home tonight and think about
Speaker 3: if you even wanted to fucking be here.
Speaker 4: And honestly, it's still the same way when you talk
Speaker 4: about like speaking the same language, like Brave was still
Speaker 4: the same way. We're in dB, even he's not in me,
Speaker 4: and he does the same thing with the coaches, like
Speaker 4: if you come from another place or another team and
Speaker 4: you're because we had a Safty last year that kind
Speaker 4: of got signed during training camp and we had this
Speaker 4: call where the say is make and will say zombie.
Speaker 7: He was called the drop drop kick or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was like, no, we don't call it drop kick.
Speaker 4: We call it zombie, like he was getting on them
Speaker 4: or whatever.
Speaker 1: The exact thing.
Speaker 7: It's the same exact thing. Like it really hasn't challenged.
Speaker 2: I will say there are of all the people that
Speaker 2: were safe in that team meeting room and always seem
Speaker 2: like you and Derek were always kind of safe, and
Speaker 2: you would tell.
Speaker 1: Because we would sit in meetings part of the skit.
Speaker 2: I was like, is that right, Yeah, Well we would
Speaker 2: sit there KB during uh during during COVID, KB would
Speaker 2: sit right in front of me and we would literally
Speaker 2: take betts like over under seven times Rabel mentions KP's
Speaker 2: name and it would get like right to the end
Speaker 2: of the meeting and he'd be a like six and
Speaker 2: then right off like four more kbs. It would always
Speaker 2: be like Benjon, he was always like hey, right, KB,
Speaker 2: and he'd be like yeah, yeah for sure in.
Speaker 4: The mini camp and he would say the same thing
Speaker 4: like like KB KB yeah yeah, and it keep going
Speaker 4: on like he's literally I don't know what it is.
Speaker 7: Maybe I'm just always in that and that's that you
Speaker 7: know that the sight line. But I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's funny, like you said, me and Brabel got a
Speaker 4: really good relationship just based upon like I don't know,
Speaker 4: like it's easy to respect the guy who played for
Speaker 4: a long time and obviously won championships and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, maybe just like saying my name,
Speaker 4: maybe k B just rolls off the tongue rolls up
Speaker 4: all the time.
Speaker 2: We were actually just well, I mean, you look at
Speaker 2: the the things you do like you're a leader. You
Speaker 2: play defense, you play consistently, you take all the snaps
Speaker 2: like you're you're hitting all the marks that Verbel wants
Speaker 2: for sure, for sure, no come out.
Speaker 1: And then Derek, you know how Derek can get sometimes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, just don't I just think my favorite part, bro,
Speaker 3: it was twenty twenty and I remember we be you
Speaker 3: know it's it's it's one of the meetings, one of
Speaker 3: the days. And uh, you know he doesn't say a
Speaker 3: whole lot, like talk to a whole lot to that
Speaker 3: because number one, Verbel speak more on like the defensive
Speaker 3: side than offense. But he'll he'll he'll dip his toes
Speaker 3: on the offense. He does a you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: a running back.
Speaker 2: But if you, yeah, just put your hand a little lower.
Speaker 1: You want to hand lower, your job. But you know,
Speaker 1: instead of just holding it out there, right, you know,
Speaker 1: use it as a weapon. There's a weapon. Use it
Speaker 1: as a weapon than.
Speaker 3: Me because you could just you just know, like Derek
Speaker 3: will be sitting there because you can tell Derek never
Speaker 3: really like being called on or having an answer to
Speaker 3: your question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's you know, Derrick Henry.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to tell you how to run the football,
Speaker 3: but right here, if you just cap him instead of
Speaker 3: if you just yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Might work out better for you. Like I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not a running back, but he too.
Speaker 4: I felt like that's a lot of I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: a lot of the reason. But even when like Theray
Speaker 4: will get on you in the team meeting room or
Speaker 4: something like that, I feel like y'all really had a
Speaker 4: really good relationship because and I don't know how you
Speaker 4: feel about it, but I will always notice, like we'll
Speaker 4: go into the games and I'll walk into the locker room,
Speaker 4: you know, going to the stadiumn you and veriously busting
Speaker 4: each other's balls, like almost like play.
Speaker 1: Fighting a little bit. I'm like, just getting on this
Speaker 1: man in the meeting room, but then you see him
Speaker 1: before it games like they're really really cool. So I
Speaker 1: don't maybe feel like you can take it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I ain't saying that Derek came, but
Speaker 1: I feel like there's certain guys like I think he
Speaker 1: knows how to he does know how you know how
Speaker 1: to coach everybody.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm saying the same way.
Speaker 2: Yea, Rabel is a level of awareness is really high.
Speaker 2: Like Derek, you can pick it like some days Derek
Speaker 2: will be like loud, yelling, telling jokes.
Speaker 1: The other days you can just tell, hey, Derek wants
Speaker 1: to be left alone. Today.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm always kind of loud, And I think Rabel
Speaker 2: saw that as an opportunity, like, all right, I can
Speaker 2: chirp this guy because we can go we can go
Speaker 2: back and forth a little bit. And that was But
Speaker 2: there were times, you know, I'm like, why the fuck
Speaker 2: is this man always on me?
Speaker 1: But I'm doing my job.
Speaker 2: And just like he would tell Derek, like I'm not
Speaker 2: a running back, but he would come into the damn
Speaker 2: old line room smoking on a jewel and sit there
Speaker 2: and I missed the buck, like just fucking get in
Speaker 2: front of him, like block him. Like it would be
Speaker 2: totally different the way he talked to me, the way
Speaker 2: he talked to Derek.
Speaker 4: Because he played like as a pass us the defensive linemans.
Speaker 4: So maybe he has like something against.
Speaker 3: He's played pretty much every position, Yea, at all he
Speaker 3: sat in. Never see I played fourteen years in the league.
Speaker 1: I've been a backup.
Speaker 2: No, I mean fourteen years. I don't know what do
Speaker 2: I what do I know? But me, I mean I
Speaker 2: was pretty much just this punching bag.
Speaker 1: No, you weren't. Will.
Speaker 2: Will is so funny because he's like, I don't know
Speaker 2: where raburnized relationship is. But Raywood literally text Will a
Speaker 2: picture of him in like parksy of Utah and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: next year, we're going skim.
Speaker 3: In the off season and then just too different. Well,
Speaker 3: he loves different time like moments of the season. It's
Speaker 3: always like I'm like always joking with but I'm always
Speaker 3: thinking in my head, like man, you fucking when he
Speaker 3: talks like, hey, let's see what our social.
Speaker 1: Media media manager's up to.
Speaker 3: Remember that time I had uh, I put Darren Bates
Speaker 3: in the the neck brace, I made him wear yellow jersey.
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, dude, I took a video
Speaker 1: of it in the last room. Yeah, I remember. He
Speaker 1: texted me that night.
Speaker 3: He's like, you think it's smart putting uh putting videos
Speaker 3: of guys who were injured on video on on Twitter.
Speaker 1: And then you know what to say and he.
Speaker 3: Goes, I can't wait for the team meeting tomorrow, And
Speaker 3: I just remembered like not being able to sleep there
Speaker 3: you and then when he does calling it whether or not.
Speaker 1: I know, guys think.
Speaker 3: It's funny, but I'm truly sitting there like, fuck man, right,
Speaker 3: even like.
Speaker 4: When you came back for the second time or the
Speaker 4: third time you did your when you did your skit
Speaker 4: the second time the brain, bro, you don't understand how
Speaker 4: funny that was. But I just like I remember just
Speaker 4: peeking back at Raves like he was just looking smile
Speaker 4: and he was just as proud loving it.
Speaker 1: He was loving it, bro. I'm telling you, Brover, we've
Speaker 1: grown a lot.
Speaker 2: I went to Rabel's office that like last camp and
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, we gotta get Will for the
Speaker 2: Rookie Show.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: Apparently as soon as I walked out the door, he
Speaker 2: called the Will immediately.
Speaker 3: Yes, Hey, would you want to would you want to
Speaker 3: be coach Rabel again in training camp?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I mean, you saved the Rookie Show.
Speaker 1: Saved it. I mean it wasn't bad, but it's never good, but.
Speaker 7: It's not bad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, previous years it was pretty bad, Like we had
Speaker 4: some really bad performances.
Speaker 7: I remember during COVID year.
Speaker 4: Because we obviously was in a bubble and when we
Speaker 4: had two like defensive lineman, guys got up there like
Speaker 4: cut off T shirts and start some old weird stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro and.
Speaker 3: Everybody, it's kind of scattered, like there's not really that
Speaker 3: you want.
Speaker 1: Shoulders touching shoulders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Bridge show too, like if a guy next to
Speaker 4: you just like out of control, laughing, bumping into you,
Speaker 4: like gifts.
Speaker 2: But the antics, the antics with Malarkey though, he would
Speaker 2: come in with a little bent knee touching his other knee,
Speaker 2: talking about, hey, KB, I got a hundred for you
Speaker 2: if you can make this basketball shot. Totally is a
Speaker 2: totally different vibe, definitely different vibe.
Speaker 1: Man. I couldn't stand him. I could not stand.
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Speaker 4: Remember Malarkey took us up to Fort Campbell, Yes, and
Speaker 4: he had to do this ocle. Listen will when I
Speaker 4: tell you this might have been some of the hot
Speaker 4: probably the one of the hardest workers that had do
Speaker 4: in my life. Like obviously Malochay was like big in
Speaker 4: the military. He'd obviously brought a lot of military speakers
Speaker 4: and stuff like that, some Navy seals or whatever. But
Speaker 4: he took us up to Fort Campbell as a team, right,
Speaker 4: and I don't know, it was just like we didn't
Speaker 4: know he was gonna gou there and do a crazy workout.
Speaker 4: It was like, you know, we're gonna go up there,
Speaker 4: you know, kind of had your tightest gear and stuff
Speaker 4: like that on. So the guys taking the students, like
Speaker 4: we literally had to like the first part of it
Speaker 4: was like guys picking up a huge log, three or
Speaker 4: four guys taking it up forty yards. Then boom running
Speaker 4: around here go into this like this trench. You know
Speaker 4: you ever see like guys crawling in the mud and
Speaker 4: like bro with bob wires on top of you and
Speaker 4: they're just spreading mud or whatever. And it was just
Speaker 4: so funny because I remember DeMarco Murray Delaney walk was
Speaker 4: looking the side like, Bro, I'm not doing it, Like
Speaker 4: get on the floor, get on the ground.
Speaker 2: Lanny was so funny about ship, like all the coaches,
Speaker 2: every coach I've ever seen across Delaney's past loved him,
Speaker 2: but Delaney would not do some of the ship and
Speaker 2: Delaney and those fucking what is it? What's the union
Speaker 2: union meetings?
Speaker 1: Damn you're out of those union meetings.
Speaker 2: We'd be like it'd be like, hey, we got an
Speaker 2: hour meeting today. We're gonna go over all stuff they
Speaker 2: talk about four to one k all the things, and
Speaker 2: then like everyone's like, how do we just get the
Speaker 2: fuck out here? Five minutes before the meets? You ever
Speaker 2: say did anybody have any questions? Delanne would raise his
Speaker 2: hand like, Dalaney, we want to leave. You would ask
Speaker 2: some dumb ass.
Speaker 1: Questions, the dumbest questions, like just like hypotheticals that are
Speaker 1: never going to take place. But the thing is he
Speaker 1: would get like two or three other guys to like
Speaker 1: buy into that question.
Speaker 2: You'll be there for another twenty minutes. That was the
Speaker 2: beauty of Delaney.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 4: It's funny now because I'm like the union rep but
Speaker 4: the team now with the NFL P I almost.
Speaker 1: Want guy to ask you.
Speaker 4: What you're saying because especially when you're a young player, bro,
Speaker 4: you just finished practice and then like obviously we're leaving
Speaker 4: practice whatever. They're like, Okay, we got a union meeting,
Speaker 4: and it's like, bro, you're trying to be on the
Speaker 4: first thing smoking out of the building, but then you
Speaker 4: got to stay for extra forty five minutes to either
Speaker 4: vote on something or talk about union.
Speaker 7: Dudes, You're like, bro, I'm trying to go.
Speaker 3: It's already o'clock, right, it's dark at five o'clock, and
Speaker 3: you're just like, man, I'm trying to get fucking home.
Speaker 2: You hit the middle of season, you hit late October,
Speaker 2: and it's like, we just get the fuck.
Speaker 1: Out of here.
Speaker 7: Man, I'm trying to do whatever I can to get You're.
Speaker 1: There so damn early. When's the Madden check hit? Exactly?
Speaker 7: Not for real?
Speaker 4: And it's funny because I even like thinking about training camp,
Speaker 4: Like you're talking about Malarkey. Remember we used to get
Speaker 4: out of like training camp on Malarkey at like eight o'clock, yes,
Speaker 4: thirty at.
Speaker 1: Night, right, and then benchake could be at ten.
Speaker 7: Benchick a literally bit.
Speaker 4: I remember that, and guys were like because we would
Speaker 4: have like a three hour break in between the day
Speaker 4: and then like obviously I was a young player then,
Speaker 4: but I know, like I was like Derrick Morgan and
Speaker 4: Rack would be like, hey, malarkey, like, you know, on
Speaker 4: a leadership council deal like malarkey, Like, you know, how
Speaker 4: about we take out this long break in the middle
Speaker 4: and just push everything up so we can get out later.
Speaker 4: Like what training camp is supposed to be hard. It's
Speaker 4: suposed to be super hard. I'm like, but you know,
Speaker 4: that's how it is when you got a coach that played,
Speaker 4: you know, back in the eighties or nineties and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, and obviously it was really hard. They probably
Speaker 4: having two a day's three days stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, they probably thinking we're soft.
Speaker 7: Yes, Like, bro, it's not the same type of thing
Speaker 7: no more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different times.
Speaker 2: That three hour break though, it was such a pain
Speaker 2: in the ascess of how late you got out.
Speaker 1: But some of the most fun times walker room.
Speaker 2: Though all the lights would be out, some guys be
Speaker 2: taking naps, us to be playing cards in the corner,
Speaker 2: be playing Super Smash Brothers.
Speaker 1: There was like some fun times, but it was some bonding.
Speaker 1: It was nice.
Speaker 2: But then as soon as the thirty hitting, You're like, bro,
Speaker 2: I have to literally have to go back to the
Speaker 2: hotel and go.
Speaker 1: Right to sleep. Whattel you guys saying, then we were
Speaker 1: at the.
Speaker 2: First place I ever sayd that was Millennium Maxwell House.
Speaker 7: Were you ever there, No, I'm glad.
Speaker 4: I think the year I got there was the year
Speaker 4: y'all moved out of it. I heard some bad stuff.
Speaker 1: About it, like five or six years got bad.
Speaker 7: By I heard about that.
Speaker 1: It was bad ship. Yeah, it would be like get.
Speaker 7: The cars broke into too.
Speaker 1: It was bad out there. It was.
Speaker 2: That was the rough times. And then we went to
Speaker 2: like the Spring Hills Sweets or something like that. After Yeah,
Speaker 2: rookie year man.
Speaker 3: Because we got like in Washington, we got to go.
Speaker 3: We went to Richmond and did training camp. So the
Speaker 3: majority of our would be at the hotel, like the Omni.
Speaker 3: We got to put up in the Omni and stuff.
Speaker 3: So we when we had the big long breaks, it'd
Speaker 3: be at the hotels. So whenever meetings concluded or whatever,
Speaker 3: we just got to go right up to our room,
Speaker 3: because you guys did all the we we would always
Speaker 3: do the meetings at the facility and then drive to
Speaker 3: whether it's you know, hotel or go home or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: How is that like happing to travel like somewhere for us?
Speaker 4: How far was it you said?
Speaker 1: Two hours? Probably two and a half hours away from
Speaker 1: where we like lived, where y'all lived. How was that?
Speaker 7: But you said, yeah, I was in an omni So yeah,
Speaker 7: I was a nice little dog.
Speaker 3: I loved it, bro We It's like, you know, you're
Speaker 3: the camaraderie is at an all time high because you're
Speaker 3: you're taking these you're taking busses over to practice. That's
Speaker 3: probably the only part that you didn't like, is like
Speaker 3: you're just going, you're hopping on buses. But man, like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're all in this awesome hotel together. You're
Speaker 3: doing all the meetings there, you're doing you get all
Speaker 3: your meals there, everything else, and then when you have
Speaker 3: the off days and everything else, you're all there. So
Speaker 3: everybody that's at the hotel or hitting the same spots,
Speaker 3: whether you go out, whether you're enjoying dude traveling to
Speaker 3: go do training camp, like those are some of the
Speaker 3: most fun.
Speaker 4: Because I would just think about, like you think about
Speaker 4: like the Pittsburgh Steelers they still go to like Saint
Speaker 4: Vincent like community college or something like that, and like
Speaker 4: players are living in like dorms for training camp. And
Speaker 4: I was thinking, like, brother has to be trash like
Speaker 4: and it may be cool. Obviously it's a traditional thing
Speaker 4: that they probably do up there. But I'm like, because,
Speaker 4: for example, one reason why in training camp, one of
Speaker 4: the only things I really don't like about training camp
Speaker 4: is the fact that players have to stay in hotels.
Speaker 4: And I don't know, maybe because I'm just getting a
Speaker 4: little older, but I'm like, I get better sleep in
Speaker 4: my own.
Speaker 1: Bed right than I will hotel beds.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's like I'm just thinking about having to
Speaker 4: sleep in the dorm bed. Like do guys like bringing
Speaker 4: their own beds from home in there or is.
Speaker 3: This like I remember Josh Norman, he bring his hyperbaric chamber,
Speaker 3: you know, and Too, Yeah, the story came out about
Speaker 3: Too sleeping on the hyperbaric tramber during training camp.
Speaker 1: By five guys were trying to get on the way
Speaker 1: of doing that.
Speaker 3: Like guys are trying and bring all this stuff, like
Speaker 3: you know, when you're everybody's got their Norman tags, their
Speaker 3: game ready, like different stuff like that. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: whether dudes are bringing a memory fhone pad to sleep
Speaker 3: on all right, But yeah, I like, but being a
Speaker 3: rookie and coming in like you kind of don't know
Speaker 3: anything else, You're like Oh, this must.
Speaker 1: Be a whirlwind being a rookie. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh it's sick. We get to stay in this omni hotel,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's wild too when you
Speaker 2: see like other rookies like KB, for instance, like when
Speaker 2: you're two years younger than me.
Speaker 7: Yeah it was fourteen.
Speaker 1: I was sixteen, okay, yeah, so sixteen.
Speaker 2: When you're playing offense, like you don't really focus too
Speaker 2: much on like a safety. And I remember like halfway
Speaker 2: through the season you were making some plays. It's a rookie,
Speaker 2: and I like when over some defense guys, was like, hey,
Speaker 2: is KB going to be good? Like is he good?
Speaker 2: Like you really have no idea. It's crazy how we're
Speaker 2: on the same team but you really don't know. And
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, he'll be good, he'll be Goodload a picture.
Speaker 2: Rookie year, right, I had second year. The second year.
Speaker 2: Second year, he went crazy. That Cleveland game was that Cleveland?
Speaker 1: It was Cleveland? Yes, I was like the coming out
Speaker 1: party for King.
Speaker 4: It's like we barely won the game, like twelve to
Speaker 4: nine or something like.
Speaker 1: That's when we were always running duo. We were always
Speaker 1: running to do.
Speaker 4: And like I was like return them like to the
Speaker 4: plus fitting and stuff like that, and the woods is
Speaker 4: like kicking field goal.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, come on, yeah, supposed to be
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Getting some some distance between this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you know you're becoming a good player
Speaker 2: when you were making plays like that and then getting
Speaker 2: mad at the offense, because when you're a rookie and
Speaker 2: you make a big play, it's like you're just happy
Speaker 2: you made that big play.
Speaker 1: And honestly, even during that time, like I really wasn't
Speaker 1: mad at the offense.
Speaker 4: I was just more like, be honest, bro, Like not
Speaker 4: honestly being a young player, I'm like, bro, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not here balling like yeah, no doubt balling like you
Speaker 3: almost just get to pick and return and stuff. And
Speaker 3: then when the offense on you, I just like, Bron,
Speaker 3: we can't do nothing.
Speaker 2: We can't do nothing because we would literally run these
Speaker 2: same plays. We would either run a open side like
Speaker 2: inside zone, or we would run a duo, which is.
Speaker 4: This is what I learned, Like or I've noticed obviously
Speaker 4: getting older, like when you get older, you start to
Speaker 4: getting pissed off. Because it's funny when I was younger
Speaker 4: player and I'm just a ball. I'm like, bro, Like
Speaker 4: I'm sitting on the sideline and I caught the three
Speaker 4: picks just like bro, Like in off like, Bro, I
Speaker 4: just caught three picks in an NFL game, Like I'm
Speaker 4: really like blow. But then like you would have like
Speaker 4: Brian Ratpo and Derrick Morgan and Jiel Case on the other side, like.
Speaker 1: Man, what are we doing right? Pusting out the offense?
Speaker 4: Like it was just so funny, and now like you
Speaker 4: just get older, it's like I get it now because
Speaker 4: you know you don't have a few more years, Like
Speaker 4: obviously you play more years than you're probably gonna play,
Speaker 4: So it's like you want to be successful in everything,
Speaker 4: and you're obviously more in the leadership position being that older,
Speaker 4: so it's like you're kind of in tune with everything
Speaker 4: that's going on, versus when you're young, you're just like
Speaker 4: I'm just out here running around making plays like I
Speaker 4: don't really know what's going on. I'm trying to make
Speaker 4: a name for myself.
Speaker 2: But then you start to understand the game better tracked,
Speaker 2: like you're trying to like you know, get the accolades,
Speaker 2: impressure coaches stick around for years to come.
Speaker 7: It's so you know how this thing really goes.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, when you're young, you
Speaker 4: just want to go out there and first, first off,
Speaker 4: solidify a role on the team, just a starter role player.
Speaker 4: I play on third downs, I play first you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Whatever it is, you just want to
Speaker 4: give on the team, make a name for stuff. Then
Speaker 4: you start going out and making plays, and it's like
Speaker 4: you just want to make more plays. You try to,
Speaker 4: Like as a young player, like I'm not really worried
Speaker 4: about what's going on around the whole team. I'm just
Speaker 4: like focus on my job and stuff like that. Obviously,
Speaker 4: if you get older and you get more of a
Speaker 4: leadership role on the team, you kind of okay, and
Speaker 4: I'm a mentor to this guy or now I want
Speaker 4: to be able to be a leader to the offense
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. So but as a young player, Bro,
Speaker 4: I was out there trying to make plays.
Speaker 1: Bro, that was it. I wasn't it almost better being
Speaker 1: a younger player, like I knew I had. You just
Speaker 1: don't know. You just don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, you're you know you're in the NFL. You
Speaker 3: know you're getting the salaries, like you know you're want.
Speaker 1: To be a leader by example. Yeah, yeah, hopefully, but
Speaker 1: just by example.
Speaker 4: I just want to go ou here and play hard,
Speaker 4: practice hard, and just that's it, really, you.
Speaker 1: Know, to show everybody you're gonna be somebody.
Speaker 4: Because I feel like young players that try to come
Speaker 4: in immediately become like vocal leaders on team where you
Speaker 4: already have seven eight year, nine year veterans. They're looking
Speaker 4: at this guy like, slow your role, young, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: go make some plays first, then maybe we'll start listening
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 1: I remember it too.
Speaker 2: Much when I when when I first got there, we
Speaker 2: had two dudes in the offensive line room that were
Speaker 2: year ten plus. When we went out for the first
Speaker 2: like run the first like you know, phase one OTAs practice, right,
Speaker 2: and I was out there fucking sprinting. You know, I
Speaker 2: was really getting chirp for going too hard and all
Speaker 2: all the your ten guys. I'm like, these fucking dudes
Speaker 2: don't know. They don't know what I'm about to do
Speaker 2: in this league. Like likeg like telling yourself whatever you
Speaker 2: gotta tell yourself. Then you get out the games and
Speaker 2: you're like just happy to be out there. You're like,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna play super fucking hard and you're not
Speaker 2: realizing even if like in the fourth we're like, oh yo,
Speaker 2: we're losing you just like hey did I play good?
Speaker 1: Did I not right? And then you start to understand more.
Speaker 2: And then the guy like Rabele who comes in who
Speaker 2: makes people understand the other side of the ball, Like
Speaker 2: he makes you know like, hey, offense, we gotta do
Speaker 2: this in this situation. He's quizzing guys on two minutes. Hey,
Speaker 2: what are you gonna do in this two minute situation?
Speaker 2: So like you hear that, and then you catch yourself
Speaker 2: during a two minute when the defense is on the field,
Speaker 2: You're like, they should be doing this.
Speaker 1: They should be doing.
Speaker 2: The fence where they don't let people out out of bounds,
Speaker 2: make sure they keep they tackle the guy, make sure
Speaker 2: they pile on.
Speaker 1: The guy when they tackle the guy.
Speaker 2: You're like seeing all that, You're like, yeah, you like Lily, well,
Speaker 2: you know how I don't want to go back to Rabel,
Speaker 2: but I'd be in there, like fuck.
Speaker 1: Do I know the defensive calls? Do I know what
Speaker 1: they want to do?
Speaker 3: Try to call on the team keys like after practice
Speaker 3: is over, bro, I know they're thinking like okay, I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to me and would always be like all right,
Speaker 2: first one probably most like to get in his vision
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: It's funny because like I would have guys on the
Speaker 4: team and it's because I always.
Speaker 1: Know the team keys and so like, you know, we
Speaker 1: get it. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5: Leader.
Speaker 4: That's the real example is like gods make sure like what's.
Speaker 1: The team yeah, and they're looking forward to because you know,
Speaker 1: verybel he.
Speaker 4: Will pick on certain guys like if you're a guy
Speaker 4: that didn't answer the questions right in the morning, means
Speaker 4: he's going to ask you again. Like I feel like
Speaker 4: the longer you were very you kind of learned his
Speaker 4: Tennessee is like, bro, if you messed up, you're here
Speaker 4: to get answered the question again until you start to
Speaker 4: get it right. So bro like being those things that
Speaker 4: the end of practic as far as team keys. So
Speaker 4: that's probably the funniest things ever because you just know,
Speaker 4: like you just had a long practice, like you're tired,
Speaker 4: you're ready to get it out of here, and the
Speaker 4: last thing you remember is what the second special team
Speaker 4: kid is like keep it real, Like you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, because going into the meeting in the morning, we.
Speaker 1: Got to say it. You got to say it basically
Speaker 1: bait him exactly. We got to know exactly, don't miss
Speaker 1: one word.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I know, like the first year and everything else,
Speaker 3: like when all this stuff is happening, like you know,
Speaker 3: you're thinking to your stuff like, oh man, this is
Speaker 3: so dumb, why do we keep doing shit like this?
Speaker 3: But over time you realize, like, man, he does an
Speaker 3: incredible job like painting the vision of how you're going
Speaker 3: to beat a team week in and.
Speaker 1: Week out, so well.
Speaker 3: Whether we're at a weakness at one point, we got
Speaker 3: to pick up somewhere else, but just the way he
Speaker 3: talks about and paints that vision on team keys in
Speaker 3: each phase and then goes through it with the tape
Speaker 3: throughout the week, and then the Friday tape when he's
Speaker 3: talking about you know how many times you see guys
Speaker 3: swiping at the ball instead of punching through.
Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, he talks about stuff.
Speaker 3: He talks about these things so much, those fundamental football
Speaker 3: things so much that even when you're watching the game,
Speaker 3: you're like picturing Vrabel's voice going over it in a
Speaker 3: Friday tape.
Speaker 1: You're like, this is going to reach the Titans Friday tape.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would text Frable when I was like this
Speaker 2: past year when I was hurt, I would text him
Speaker 2: on like Sunday and be like, is that Friday tape?
Speaker 2: He goes, no question, Yeah, yeah, no question, that's Friday
Speaker 2: tape next week.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: He had the career watching games sometimes like if it's
Speaker 4: if we played on Sunday, if it's setting that game,
Speaker 4: like you're just picturing like what Brave was gonna say
Speaker 4: to me, and like, Oh, that's for sure gonna be
Speaker 4: on Friday.
Speaker 2: Or Thursday night football. He'd like, this is for sugar
Speaker 2: to make Tomorrow, sure, sugar to make even when.
Speaker 1: You're gone out. Like I couldn't shake him. Even when
Speaker 1: I was on the Raiders.
Speaker 3: He would send me he was video record a play
Speaker 3: being made, and then he'd be like, celebrate with your teammates.
Speaker 1: Man, don't you know, don't make it making it all
Speaker 1: about yourself. I see.
Speaker 4: But then it's funny because I remember sending the video
Speaker 4: to Raves like he had made an interception when he played.
Speaker 1: He had worse. I know, white guy celebration just ran off. Yes,
Speaker 1: his teammate is just chasing. He's read to the solid.
Speaker 4: I just sat down, didn't celebrate with anybody. That's so
Speaker 4: that's what you preach, bro, because.
Speaker 1: That was my ship personally, Like all right, next time
Speaker 1: you learn.
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Speaker 2: Literally when I when I did the That Maya cast
Speaker 2: playoff with a Michigan versus TCU, I when Defenseul happened,
Speaker 2: there were guys like swiping and not stabbing, and I
Speaker 2: was saying that and we go to commercial, but.
Speaker 1: You know what you're talking about. We're hitting some good
Speaker 1: but it was all it was all ravel.
Speaker 2: Dude, was like, just get yourself on a Friday meeting
Speaker 2: right now, the one and pick on a couple of things.
Speaker 2: Swipe and not stabbing. I'm like, hey, brother, that's a
Speaker 2: good play. But next time you got a stab through
Speaker 2: that whole thing. I was like, damn, I'm really out
Speaker 2: here doing it.
Speaker 4: If you're with able at least two years, not almost
Speaker 4: just say one year.
Speaker 1: Like there's no way to buy in that one year though,
Speaker 1: you gotta buy, you know, like Rashaw's rookie year.
Speaker 3: It was like hey, I would just remember always telling
Speaker 3: Rashaan throughout the entire year like hey, this is just
Speaker 3: mental warfare, like this what he does, this is just
Speaker 3: what happens. This is just how rookies, how rookie the
Speaker 3: rookie treatment is. But it would just always be like
Speaker 3: when you gets chirped, we just whisper like mental warfare,
Speaker 3: mental warfare.
Speaker 2: I feel like Rashawn just didn't. It wasn't faced like
Speaker 2: when you first that dude in the Denver game, and
Speaker 2: then on Monday Rabel went off and you saw Shawn.
Speaker 2: He's like okay absolutely then walked down team room, looked
Speaker 2: like he was unscathed, no bullet hit him. If I
Speaker 2: did that, I'd be sitting there like a limber.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He was tripable, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, because he was
Speaker 2: truly rubber and glue, like that old little saying as
Speaker 2: a kid, I'm rubber your glue.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: See it until we like said we got in the team.
Speaker 2: Me and I just like Jake Butt Michigan, man, I
Speaker 2: just turn around like what's the flag for where you at?
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking to the sideline, and then I would look
Speaker 1: back like, oh, bro, I saw like, where's my helmet?
Speaker 1: God damn it, I'm gonna have to go playing this
Speaker 1: fucking game. I just showed up. I just showed up
Speaker 1: ten days before.
Speaker 3: We were recapping that the other day talking about the
Speaker 3: Vic Beasley Like my first day coming back that second
Speaker 3: time was when everybody was we were like standing and
Speaker 3: not practicing the whole social justice stuff. And I was
Speaker 3: sitting there on my first day like, oh, first day back,
Speaker 3: like we're not having to practice, like we're ten days
Speaker 3: out from the first game, Like this is nice. I
Speaker 3: completely missoff training camp. Yeah, and we were talking about
Speaker 3: Vic Beasley, like him chiming in from the.
Speaker 7: Band Highlight y'all did.
Speaker 4: Honestly, that was probably one of the funniest things I've seen, bro. So,
Speaker 4: first off, it was weird. That whole Vic Beasley deal
Speaker 4: was just like a weird saga. He had a weird
Speaker 4: year in Tennessee because I remember when he signed in
Speaker 4: the spring. He signed in the spring, and then like
Speaker 4: I remember, Brady was just like, bro, like the guys
Speaker 4: ain't even picking up the phone, like we just signed
Speaker 4: this man, and it's like, don't not hear anything from him?
Speaker 4: Remember he didn't report training camp like the first week
Speaker 4: or two, and it was unexcused. It was like nobody
Speaker 4: was like, where is he? It's like and then he
Speaker 4: just showed up and I never forget this.
Speaker 7: I was leaving.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know if I was leaving. I
Speaker 4: was getting some of my car and I walked into
Speaker 4: the park. I'm like, or somebody getting told, like like
Speaker 4: you know what, no real talk. I'm like, somebody's getting told.
Speaker 4: He just that's so funny. And I come back in
Speaker 4: and it was a dog in the car too. It
Speaker 4: was a dog in the car and the windows rolled down.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like an animal crudity stuff. But the dog's
Speaker 4: in the car.
Speaker 1: Envelope.
Speaker 2: I go, but.
Speaker 4: Somebody's getting told. But it's this man's daily driver. He
Speaker 4: was daily driving a tow truck. Bro, it was the
Speaker 4: funniest thing in the world. Then, like you said, first time,
Speaker 4: it was like this might have been his first day,
Speaker 4: second day or whatever. He might have been there a
Speaker 4: couple days. But he was kind of weird because he
Speaker 4: didn't talk to anybody. He said to buy it, and Bro,
Speaker 4: obviously we're not practicing. Ray was giving the floor to everybody.
Speaker 4: People are talking about some real stuff. Talking about stuff
Speaker 4: that he'd been through and it was deep. It was
Speaker 4: actually deep. And then it's kind of thinking, Okay, you know,
Speaker 4: what do you think about doing for the first game,
Speaker 4: like cause it was kind of like, do you want
Speaker 4: to do a message?
Speaker 1: Shandon Ar's kind of what I was talking about, and
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm towards the front.
Speaker 4: I'm not even really sure who's back there talking, and
Speaker 4: so I just heard a voice that I really had
Speaker 4: never heard before because I never heard him speak out loud.
Speaker 4: And this man was like, yeah, man, I think it
Speaker 4: was just I think we should just boycott the first game.
Speaker 1: It was one of those like what the fuck?
Speaker 7: What bro?
Speaker 3: I remember thinking because I didn't know I was saying
Speaker 3: too that I knew the name, like I knew of
Speaker 3: Vic Beasley, but I know that that was him. And
Speaker 3: I just remember looking and seeing again first thing, and
Speaker 3: I'm like looking back there and seeing to say that,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, oh, that's a rookie, like he's gone, He's
Speaker 3: that'sh it for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great idea.
Speaker 1: Son. By the way, get your play book. John wants
Speaker 1: to see him.
Speaker 4: It's actually funny because Rabel didn't just like cut him
Speaker 4: off from now. You kind of let him say what
Speaker 4: he was gonna say. But it was just like but
Speaker 4: I knew, like talking to Rage beforehand, like it was
Speaker 4: pissed at Big Like I remember coming to some of
Speaker 4: the leaders like this guy just didn't.
Speaker 7: Report and it was like he was hot.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, Bro, the first thing that you want
Speaker 4: to say out loud in front of the whole entire
Speaker 4: group is that was your boycott the first game.
Speaker 7: Man, Like, I've never seen about that, Like, what are
Speaker 7: you talking about?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 7: Like real, it was like, Bro, this guy right here
Speaker 7: is out.
Speaker 1: Of his mind.
Speaker 2: I've never seen somebody that willing to go to so
Speaker 2: many distances to not play, like he would do everything
Speaker 2: he could knock and play.
Speaker 4: That was a weird year because like it was it
Speaker 4: was obviously it was COVID. The whole world was kind
Speaker 4: of in flux.
Speaker 1: It was weird.
Speaker 4: But you know, we signed him when we signed Clowny,
Speaker 4: like we signed Clemnell. I think the week ever time
Speaker 4: we signed you was like the week of the first game,
Speaker 4: And I remember Big Beesy being training cam Like like
Speaker 4: you said before, it's like.
Speaker 7: Chilling collect It was like a real deal thing.
Speaker 2: I have never met anybody because he they said he
Speaker 2: got fined for not showing up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like, bro, you had no reason
Speaker 4: not to show up. It was ridiculous, like you didn't
Speaker 4: know that you want to getting fine?
Speaker 3: No way, I want to say too, like when those
Speaker 3: stories were getting written, like nobody had heard from him
Speaker 3: when he wasn't showing up And wasn't there a photo
Speaker 3: that surfaced of that toe truck or like him.
Speaker 1: Being like he was like her heart down and it
Speaker 1: was on like Snapchat or something.
Speaker 7: Bro, it was hilarious.
Speaker 4: And it's funny because the house that I was living
Speaker 4: in that during that time, I would I drove by
Speaker 4: like a street and I guess he had like an airbnb.
Speaker 4: He lived not too far from me. Yeah, I seen
Speaker 4: the same right in a driveway. I was just making
Speaker 4: his daily rounds man. But but it's Big Beasley got us.
Speaker 2: It actually had like a like some sort of business
Speaker 2: like a number on the side of it and everything
Speaker 2: like something towing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said that, Like I guess like during the
Speaker 4: off season, like he was living in the country or
Speaker 4: something to helped like one of his boys. Like I
Speaker 4: guess like around like big Bells. Hey, I don't know
Speaker 4: what it was, but it was just like around to
Speaker 4: go get a pickup truck, like a regular truck, like
Speaker 4: real was hilarious. But like you said, it was weird
Speaker 4: because and I said, this is not me trying to
Speaker 4: just down on him, but it was just funny because
Speaker 4: like he would be, you know, in the training room
Speaker 4: obviously getting tripping on his knees, like yeah, man, like
Speaker 4: trying to milk.
Speaker 1: This thing into like game two or three.
Speaker 4: It was like he would just openly be saying and
Speaker 4: I don't even think even if he heard this that
Speaker 4: he would be like, oh, I can't believe that. Like nah,
Speaker 4: he was dead serious, like I'm trying to milk this
Speaker 4: thing and like you know, game two or three, Like
Speaker 4: I'm just like, bro, you literally just got on this
Speaker 4: team and you sitting here just I've never met anybody
Speaker 4: who openly just like you would see some people back
Speaker 4: in their moms like maybe they know they're hurting. It's like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm really not ready, I'm gonna try it,
Speaker 4: but like but no, he was like especially when it's saying,
Speaker 4: oh you know what are you respect it that, because
Speaker 4: it's like he was just dead serious, like it's like
Speaker 4: you know, like I'm just trying to milk this thing.
Speaker 4: Obviously we didn't like it, but it was like, bro,
Speaker 4: this guy is very honest, Like it's ridiculous, like like
Speaker 4: you would.
Speaker 2: Walk away from him with your buddies and be like, man,
Speaker 2: that's crazy he thinks like that. But like good for him,
Speaker 2: Like he's truly made that decision. It's a different time,
Speaker 2: be done different crazy that oh year, the COVID year was.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Remember remember we got the week off and beat Buffalo,
Speaker 1: beat the ship at a Buffalo. We said, disask what
Speaker 1: when it was brought to you by Zoom?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember that week and like obviously guys like
Speaker 4: we couldn't work out together and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: We're just doing like Zoom meetings or whatever.
Speaker 4: And obviously we destroyed the bills and so like gods,
Speaker 4: like next week after the game, like rabes, like, I mean,
Speaker 4: it's put on tape.
Speaker 1: We don't need to we don't goint of practice, Like
Speaker 1: what do we got to do anything?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: We can just get on Zoom do our thing. Were
Speaker 1: working on our own and then come the game.
Speaker 2: You know, this day probably the best game we've played
Speaker 2: collectively as a team. Yeah, no, lie in Titan's history.
Speaker 4: Probably nowhere near perplect even watching the field of the game,
Speaker 4: like well everybody have you know, nobody's played the perfect game,
Speaker 4: but to dominate them the way we did, and we
Speaker 4: didn't practice then entire I think we had to walk
Speaker 4: through Saturday night or something at the hotel or somebody.
Speaker 7: I don't know if we stayed at the hole.
Speaker 1: Do we stay at hotel?
Speaker 2: I don't think we could stay at the hotel.
Speaker 1: I walked through at the facility.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when the bubble come in and you had to
Speaker 1: change there and the loop and everything because we.
Speaker 2: Had our lockers were like in chairs, and people forget
Speaker 2: we were supposed to play the Steelers. We were supposed
Speaker 2: to play the Steelers, and that game had to get moved.
Speaker 1: We did. We went from like hey, you're playing the Steels.
Speaker 1: Were literally watching film the Steelers, and then like like
Speaker 1: four days before we put the Bills, like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: not playing the Steelers. We're playing the Bills now.
Speaker 2: And it was like Josh Allen here, make him roll
Speaker 2: to the right, like all this ship, dude, And I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, we're just pivoting and it's crazy and
Speaker 2: we like me Ben and Roger would be like, all right, guys,
Speaker 2: let's meet at Lipscomb University. Yeah, like a half assed
Speaker 2: twenty minute and you get to get a little sweat
Speaker 2: going by our boys.
Speaker 1: No, right, gotta go hard. I remember going to that
Speaker 1: game but being.
Speaker 2: Like it's either gonna be a dogfight or we're gonna
Speaker 2: get blown the fuck out exactly.
Speaker 4: They were still practicing, yeah, because we didn't know. And
Speaker 4: it was funny because I remember even leading, like in
Speaker 4: the beginning of the week, it was like the coaches like, hey,
Speaker 4: this is before to remember the league was like, oh,
Speaker 4: y'all can't work out together, yeah, or something like that.
Speaker 2: But we were working out and then all of us
Speaker 2: sudden the league was like you can't do that, and
Speaker 2: then there was a whole thing. All were gonna lose
Speaker 2: games or it's something gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Paul or Paul Horsky closer to a picture of like
Speaker 4: Tannehill and the receivers getting together, like all they're breaking
Speaker 4: COVID rules.
Speaker 1: All the safeties and the DB's are out somewhere here were.
Speaker 4: Because this was earlier in the week where we're just
Speaker 4: like we was at Rose Park or somebody that close
Speaker 4: to the gold little baseball field, a little baseball doing
Speaker 4: a little drills, just trying to stay in shape or whatever.
Speaker 4: And then like we did that for like a day
Speaker 4: or two and then eventually they said we couldn't do anything.
Speaker 4: So it was hilarious that whole year.
Speaker 1: It was a weird year, bro, it because the theme
Speaker 1: is just like, hey, just just say win and where
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. When it doesn't matter, we blew them
Speaker 1: the fuck out, bro, We destroyed them. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: like forty forty seven or twenty something.
Speaker 3: They were practicing hard too, because I remember I was
Speaker 3: talking with Trent Murphy. We got on the phone. I
Speaker 3: was like, are you guys, Like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: He's like, Bro, we're practicing fucking hard, like we had
Speaker 3: He goes, we had to do condition, we had to
Speaker 3: do gassers the day after practice.
Speaker 1: He's like, what was that coaches first year?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think it was his first year.
Speaker 3: But it's more of like, don't you know, basically, don't
Speaker 3: think of these guys lightly just because they can't practice
Speaker 3: or do anything else.
Speaker 1: So they were trying to keep them sharp and.
Speaker 2: Like they had we had to go in that locker
Speaker 2: room after and be like, damn, they definitely they coach
Speaker 2: just had to think like we worked them too hard,
Speaker 2: like they they did something.
Speaker 3: Wrong because we got a couple of picks from Josh Allen,
Speaker 3: which was kind of surprised we're getting these Yeah, we
Speaker 3: were getting these picks. I'm like, damn, hey, we're about
Speaker 3: to whoop these boys.
Speaker 1: But we really did that too.
Speaker 7: It was crazy, bro, Like I think I know Malcolm
Speaker 7: had a pick who else called.
Speaker 2: The street rat Malcolm Butler whatever got to be favorites
Speaker 2: of all time. Malcolm, Like you just a street rat.
Speaker 2: You're just a street rat, like our biggest contract was,
Speaker 2: and he's just I mean out there competing every day.
Speaker 1: Bro a.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see a dB put a lip in, You're like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a country ass motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Bro this this guy Malcolm. Bro Like even just thinking
Speaker 4: about it, kvid here. One day, Malcolm like almost like
Speaker 4: went missing. It's weird, just went missing, like couldn't like the.
Speaker 1: Best ones always there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember, like coaches came in like, hey, anybody
Speaker 4: seen Malcolm, Like where's Malcolm at? Like, no, I call them,
Speaker 4: nobody's picking on the phone. I think that you know
Speaker 4: they sent jab. You know they sent jab. When the
Speaker 4: Aaron jeb go over his house, it was like, Bro,
Speaker 4: nobody was there, like but his cars aparked outside. He said,
Speaker 4: his mailbox full of mail and everything was like And
Speaker 4: then because remember COVID, we was in the bubble and
Speaker 4: we had our meeting rooms in the bubble and we're
Speaker 4: all spread out and we had like curtains up and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And I remember just in the meeting
Speaker 4: and then I remember just kind of turning my right
Speaker 4: and Bro, Malcolm just appeared just like slid in. It
Speaker 4: just sat down like it didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: Did he in trouble? I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Nobody. The coaches are like they didn't know that he
Speaker 1: had walked in at the time, right, didn't That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He slid in and then the coaches like, hey,
Speaker 1: what's uping, like, hey, what's up y'all boys, and like
Speaker 1: this gott just went along like, bro.
Speaker 7: Where were you? You know what I'm saying of the
Speaker 7: last man? Not definitely one of the best for sure.
Speaker 2: When he had that pick was right before Christmas against
Speaker 2: the Redskins, and it was like just go down.
Speaker 1: But he took it all the way back. He cribbed it.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you who almost who almost taught him was
Speaker 2: Trent Williams. He did bro that, man, is just fucking ridiculous.
Speaker 1: He did it was funny.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 7: Like I said, Malcolm was a dog man.
Speaker 4: He was one of those, like you said, like legit
Speaker 4: street rat kind of guys, scrappy.
Speaker 1: I mean, didn't always have the best technique, but he
Speaker 1: just had that.
Speaker 4: He just had that ability to be I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: just like a street It's like, you know, like he
Speaker 4: got like a one basketball street basketball. He was like
Speaker 4: a street football player where were just like, don't forget
Speaker 4: the technique. I'm just gonna go out here and beat
Speaker 4: Malcolm and I'm just gonna scrap. I'm gonna make plays. Yeah,
Speaker 4: what he was as a player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just that mentality too, Like I felt like
Speaker 3: anytime he lost and never really phased him.
Speaker 1: Not right here, yeah, right here, Christmas time too. But
Speaker 1: the game's over, go down, It's literally it's over. That's
Speaker 1: mocking for you. He's trying to get a touchdown. Them
Speaker 1: stats matter, he's trying to really contract man.
Speaker 4: I almost feel like Bert I don't even blame you
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, like obviously you'll
Speaker 4: get in a film like Maccolm next time, get down.
Speaker 4: But when you get to the off season and you're
Speaker 4: talking contract and stuff, is like I.
Speaker 1: Had a pick six.
Speaker 4: Yeah matter, Like the highlights don't matter, just like whistle
Speaker 4: on a piece of paper, like.
Speaker 1: Exactly, bro, pick six. That stuff matters. Man.
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Speaker 2: How do you feel when you're at the end of
Speaker 2: the game and they're throwing up a Hail Mary and
Speaker 2: you know you could easily just catch it, but you
Speaker 2: know you're supposed to swat it. Down, Like there's gotta
Speaker 2: be something going through your head. Be like, man, these
Speaker 2: stats would look nice right now.
Speaker 4: It depends, Like for example, if it's a Heill mayor
Speaker 4: you know, the ball is under like badly underthorn, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to pick it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But if it's in, like you know, you never know, bro,
Speaker 2: Like there's been some wild moments that happen, Like sometimes
Speaker 2: you think, I just.
Speaker 4: Get the ball on the ground, but I ain't gonna
Speaker 4: lie like halftime or somebody, I might try to pick
Speaker 4: it off, like if it's but if it's fourth quarter,
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, let's get the ball off the line.
Speaker 4: Games on the line, Okay, let's just back the ball down.
Speaker 4: It's just when the games got out of here. But halftime,
Speaker 4: might you know, I try to pick the ball off, honestly,
Speaker 4: try to do something with it, get us some points,
Speaker 4: you know, you.
Speaker 1: Never know, Like it's crazy game.
Speaker 2: It's crazy what we talk about, like the being so
Speaker 2: naive when you're a rookie and like you kind of
Speaker 2: see articles coming out about guys that are older and
Speaker 2: you don't really know what to think. And now you've
Speaker 2: being older, you've caught yourself and like kind not crossfires,
Speaker 2: but you've caught yourself in situation is like, hey, what's
Speaker 2: KB up to?
Speaker 1: What's he thinking? Like there are all these new news
Speaker 1: articles out about you. In the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: I remember texting you like, hey, if you want to
Speaker 2: talk about it, remember that free range It was like
Speaker 2: in Cabo. Yeah, it was in March, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about it, this can be
Speaker 2: your platform or whatever. And You're like, hey, I'll get
Speaker 2: back to you. Never got back. That's fine, we're here now.
Speaker 7: I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 7: Obvious it was a reason, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: But do.
Speaker 2: You want to do you want to talk about your
Speaker 2: situation with that at all? Like this is kind of
Speaker 2: your place to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: The funny thing is, was like I would like, say,
Speaker 4: when you text me, I was in Cabo, right and
Speaker 4: uh and so yeah, obviously I'm we had mini camp
Speaker 4: last week. I did the interview and obviously asking a
Speaker 4: whole bunch of questions about it, and you know, and
Speaker 4: obviously i'm you know, for the boys, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I feel a little bit more comfortable
Speaker 4: talking about stuff like that, but you know, dealing with
Speaker 4: the whole situation. When I was in Cabo, and that
Speaker 4: thing happened in March, Like the conversation between the team
Speaker 4: my agency, it happened like a month ago, and so
Speaker 4: like I kind of already do the situation, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So when I was on the beach
Speaker 4: literally with my wife, kids are in you know, playing
Speaker 4: in the sand, I'm just kind of sitting back and
Speaker 4: like I really wasn't pacing my phone, but like people
Speaker 4: start texting my phone and like like my agent called me,
Speaker 4: was like, hey, you've been talking to the media or
Speaker 4: anything like that, said row on the beach, Like what
Speaker 4: you mean? So then I jump on social media and
Speaker 4: I see my like my mentions blowing up. Was like
Speaker 4: somebody was doing a radio so I don't know who
Speaker 4: it was. Here in Nashville, was like, okab asked for
Speaker 4: a trade or has to be released or something like
Speaker 4: that was he probably was theleased the leak, so just
Speaker 4: build it up even more kids, And it was just
Speaker 4: weird because I'm like, how does this come out? Because
Speaker 4: I know obviously I'm not talking to anybody and anything
Speaker 4: like that. So uh, that was just weird and like, say,
Speaker 4: you reached out to me, but I don't know. I
Speaker 4: just think like the whole situation where I just kind
Speaker 4: of felt like it was for me personally, like silence
Speaker 4: is golden, you know what I'm saying. Like I feel
Speaker 4: like I just had to kind of go dark for
Speaker 4: a little bit, just because simple fact is is that,
Speaker 4: you know, it's very easy to get your emotions involved,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Obviously, when my agent told me,
Speaker 4: you know, obviously had a conversation with the team and
Speaker 4: kind of reported back to me about everything, it was
Speaker 4: very easy to be emotional because I'd be lying if
Speaker 4: I didn't say I felt the way about it, you
Speaker 4: know what I say. I'd be lying if I say
Speaker 4: that I didn't like what they asked for what you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So, but at the same time,
Speaker 4: like there's no like you can't be emotional in business,
Speaker 4: like just being real, like you makeing the most decision
Speaker 4: within yall business more than like it's gonna be bad business,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I had to find
Speaker 4: a way to make sure that, you know, just to
Speaker 4: compartmentalize everything and just kind of keep my emotions out
Speaker 4: of it when I'm making these different decisions and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. So yeah, man, it was you know, it happened,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I think we're in
Speaker 4: a good place right now.
Speaker 3: I think, for what it's worth, you do a really
Speaker 3: good job separating the the emotional and the business side,
Speaker 3: because it is too it's super easy to get caught up.
Speaker 3: Like I can only imagine the first time you're getting
Speaker 3: that phone call, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: it is just business.
Speaker 1: It is just business.
Speaker 3: But I would have I would almost imagine, like you
Speaker 3: get a call like that and you're somebody who you
Speaker 3: just finished your what seventh year? Seven year and year?
Speaker 3: He never missed, have missed a game since you started?
Speaker 3: And you know your first year, I think it was
Speaker 3: like week ten.
Speaker 7: You have missed that game? Correct, And you've done.
Speaker 3: All You've done all yeah, yeah, knock on what and
Speaker 3: you've done all this essentially for the team, Like you're
Speaker 3: a leader, you're a captain, You've you've had your growth
Speaker 3: in the Titans organization.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that. Everybody sees this man the Tennessee Titans franchise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I could almost assume your first emotion, of course,
Speaker 3: is going to be emotional because it's like, hang on, now,
Speaker 3: what are.
Speaker 1: We fucking talking about?
Speaker 4: Because it was it was just one of those things
Speaker 4: where were just like I just didn't really understand it
Speaker 4: at first, you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean, And I'm just like this just reclared that
Speaker 1: they called and they were like, hey, would he take
Speaker 1: a pay cut? Is that what happened?
Speaker 4: So it was more like so you know, obviously combine, Yes,
Speaker 4: this is when a time where agents and finally get
Speaker 4: together with generalman's they have a conversation about players and
Speaker 4: new GM comes in.
Speaker 1: They're figuring out ways I mean.
Speaker 4: Exactly, like have a conversation bout I'm guarantee you almost
Speaker 4: every player, especially a veteran player on our team, had
Speaker 4: a conversation with the GM during the combine or whatever.
Speaker 4: And I guess that was through out there, and I
Speaker 4: don't know, like because obviously I wasn't in the room,
Speaker 4: so I don't really know how it was thrown out
Speaker 4: there because honestly, I ended last year and was like,
Speaker 4: you know, talking about agent, like bro, like we need
Speaker 4: I want to get extension, like I want to be
Speaker 4: here because obviously you.
Speaker 3: Know, of course listen and you're you're you're you're you're
Speaker 3: a player, Like exactly what happens if you're if you're
Speaker 3: a good player in this league, you want to look
Speaker 3: at the year before your contract is up, and you
Speaker 3: want to you're excited, especially if.
Speaker 2: You have a hell of a year exactly, and you
Speaker 2: want to get on the phone excited selfishly for yourself.
Speaker 3: Like that's not saying you're not a selfless player at all,
Speaker 3: but you're getting on the phone and as a player,
Speaker 3: you're excited to know, like, hey, could we potentially make
Speaker 3: something happen and get us an extension.
Speaker 4: So, like I said, it was one of those things
Speaker 4: where you know, at the end of the season, and
Speaker 4: obviously we end of the season where it was lost
Speaker 4: seven games store it's very disappointing.
Speaker 7: It was a stressful time.
Speaker 4: As far as me being the player, it was very
Speaker 4: stressful because, like you said, that was my even just
Speaker 4: looking at my career, that was my first time ever
Speaker 4: having a losing season since like high school. I never
Speaker 4: had like a losing season, especially the way it ended,
Speaker 4: because we had so much promise. You know, seventy three
Speaker 4: be Green Bay Thursday night that we lost seven straight
Speaker 4: it was miserable, like it was never really been in
Speaker 4: that situation before. But you know I did the you know,
Speaker 4: the clean out day and the media and everything, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, like I don't want to play for
Speaker 4: another organization, Like this is my legacy. I love it
Speaker 4: here in Nashville, and so you don't have a conversations
Speaker 4: with my age. And at the end of the season,
Speaker 4: like because I kind of know, like I'm a very
Speaker 4: business savvy person, I'm kind of smart, like I understand
Speaker 4: that and this is and I feel like we can
Speaker 4: pivot after this. But like kind of talking about John,
Speaker 4: and John was trying to sell out as much as
Speaker 4: he could to build a championship team. And so for myself,
Speaker 4: like I restructured my contract twice. The first time I
Speaker 4: think was the sign Clowney and the second time with
Speaker 4: is I think after I went off pro or something
Speaker 4: like that. Restructure again it might have been a sign
Speaker 4: Robert Well. It was something like that because like you're
Speaker 4: trying to bring on talent, so you're trying to you know,
Speaker 4: create cast space. But what that does is what post
Speaker 4: people don't realize what it does, is it increased your
Speaker 4: cap hit. Later in the life of your contract. So
Speaker 4: you know, you see people report this guy's making this
Speaker 4: much money. That's not really how much money you're making
Speaker 4: just account wise. Your cabine is here, but you may
Speaker 4: be making somewhere around here. And so that's a situation where,
Speaker 4: like you said, you get a new GM that comes in,
Speaker 4: he just looks at this this sheet and just like
Speaker 4: man I have like for example, you know, obviously you
Speaker 4: got released, then Jones got released, Bug got released.
Speaker 7: He's looking okay, the ross is a little bit weird.
Speaker 7: Were a little bit older now.
Speaker 4: So like I got a clear I got a clear
Speaker 4: caspeit that clear cap space from from anywhere. And so,
Speaker 4: like I said, I mean, that was my idea of
Speaker 4: going into the conversation. So my agent called me, was like, hey,
Speaker 4: it kind of went another way. So like obviously I
Speaker 4: wasn't in the room, so I don't really know exactly
Speaker 4: how like was it a situation where it's like, hey,
Speaker 4: we want to do extension. They just went the complete
Speaker 4: opposite way, And I don't know, maybe somewhere something, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know how thinking for the first thing, you have
Speaker 1: no idea like the Domino cont.
Speaker 4: Track extension you're doing. It's like Taylor, like, for example,
Speaker 4: let's use tailor man. For example, I want to make
Speaker 4: thirty million dollars and the team is like, well, we
Speaker 4: want you to make fifteen Yeah, and then you somehow
Speaker 4: you meet and you know what I'm saying, it's like everybody.
Speaker 1: Compromises bartering situation.
Speaker 4: So I don't really know how that conversation went because
Speaker 4: I wasn't in the room. So but when I got
Speaker 4: the news, I was like wow. Like honestly, I was like,
Speaker 4: I didn't know how I was going to go because
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've never seen, at least from my preference
Speaker 4: or at least from my view, a player, you know,
Speaker 4: get exked for a pay cut and then you know,
Speaker 4: usually more than like you get released or something like that,
Speaker 4: or you know what I'm saying, you say the pic
Speaker 4: or is like you're gone. So I didn't really understand
Speaker 4: how it was going to happen. So I was kind
Speaker 4: of preparing my mind for every different scenario. And I
Speaker 4: just felt that for me personally, like it's no point
Speaker 4: of trying to jump on on the podcast or jumping
Speaker 4: on this because.
Speaker 7: You may be still a little emotional right now.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta let this
Speaker 4: thing kind of you know, discussed with your family kind
Speaker 4: of really process everything from every angle before you you know,
Speaker 4: go talking about it and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So especially publicly. Yeah, you get out there publicly.
Speaker 7: Bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was It was weird for sure, But like I said,
Speaker 4: I kind of understand him, Like you said, I mean Rand,
Speaker 4: I've had conversation with Ran, but like never really been
Speaker 4: around Ran like that, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: he don't really Obviously he knows me because obviously he's
Speaker 4: watched he's a general manager, like he watched tape, you
Speaker 4: watch football and stuff like that. But when you get
Speaker 4: to be around a guy because he may be coming
Speaker 4: from a situation where it's like, you know, obviously John
Speaker 4: was the general manager who paid me and stuff like that.
Speaker 7: So it's like, you know, how every.
Speaker 4: Position in this league is I won't say it's different,
Speaker 4: but it's classified differently, Like left tackle is a premium position,
Speaker 4: quarterback is a premium position. Safety might not be as
Speaker 4: premium as a left tackle, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's like this guy's happened is super high playing
Speaker 4: a non premium position or whatever. We got to find
Speaker 4: a way to get this down. So I kind of
Speaker 4: respect it from that point on a business out of it,
Speaker 4: Like I get it, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 4: he might not understand why guy like John Robinson gave
Speaker 4: me the contract that he did or wanted me to
Speaker 4: restructure a man of times because who I am, not
Speaker 4: just as a player, but as a person as well
Speaker 4: in the community, in the locker room and things like that.
Speaker 7: So I said, I think Ram's a good guy.
Speaker 4: He's cool man, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 4: don't have any ill feelings towards the whole situation.
Speaker 7: It is kind of it is what it is, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, kind of.
Speaker 1: Just you've had process of emotions.
Speaker 7: It is, it is, bro It's like you kind of
Speaker 7: just take it for what it is.
Speaker 4: And you know obviously you know, they asked to take
Speaker 4: a piccut and I said, no, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: It was just and that was not just an emotional
Speaker 4: because I think people kind of.
Speaker 7: You know, people on social.
Speaker 4: Media be cooking like yeah, kV, well no, you know, no,
Speaker 4: I had none of It's all business stuff, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I didn't like how it obviously
Speaker 4: leaked out here in the media that I asked to
Speaker 4: be released because it was BS. I was like, what,
Speaker 4: because you know what I'm saying, it's kind of painting
Speaker 4: a bad narrative, just saying that I'm just disgruntal. I
Speaker 4: don't want to be here, no more emotional he's making moves,
Speaker 4: My guys, I don't want to be here nowhere, because
Speaker 4: that's not you know, it's furred from the truth. So
Speaker 4: that one thing I didn't like. But other than that, man,
Speaker 4: it's just business man. We just that's what happens too.
Speaker 3: I mean, any type of that team national news, it
Speaker 3: usually gets leaked and then it usually gets misconstrued as
Speaker 3: like the players usually upset about a lot of stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because even even you come into a mini camp, I
Speaker 3: saw that there's you know, articles written about like the
Speaker 3: reasoning of you not being at OTAs full contract kind
Speaker 3: of I don't think you're even at last year, were you?
Speaker 6: So I did.
Speaker 4: I was at OTS, but you know, a couple of days,
Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, you know, I wasn't there. The
Speaker 4: family vacations and stuff like that. But and that's another
Speaker 4: thing too, like and I think, like you said, this
Speaker 4: is being an older player kind of understanding.
Speaker 1: And I've had a conversation. I remember we had conversations
Speaker 1: even that year.
Speaker 4: It was like, Bro, like when you're reporting, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because as an older player, you understand
Speaker 4: the game that but you got to be in shape.
Speaker 4: Y're around like this is not a thing where because
Speaker 4: when I was a young player, this hoigh, this is
Speaker 4: how I operated. It was like, Okay, report dates, probably
Speaker 4: you know, April seventeenth. I'm probably gonna start working out,
Speaker 4: maybe you know, late February. Like I'm gonna give myself
Speaker 4: probably a month to really get ramp up. And then
Speaker 4: once we start, yeah, you ain't really gonna be doing
Speaker 4: too much anyway. So it's like I'm gonna have two,
Speaker 4: two or three months to really start working out. But
Speaker 4: me now, like Bro, I was working out. Bro, I
Speaker 4: ain't gonna lie like the day after the Super Bowl, like,
Speaker 4: and I'm not just going crazy working out, but like
Speaker 4: I'm doing peloton. I'm cycling started getting back into shit
Speaker 4: kind of you know, working my way into it. And
Speaker 4: I've had thoughts about this for the past couple of
Speaker 4: years was like being in the same team, being with Verbel,
Speaker 4: Like me and Verber could be in the meeting room
Speaker 4: coaching the team right now and I kind of already
Speaker 4: know what he's gonna say, but he's asking a question.
Speaker 7: You know, he's kind of hey, asking the rookie.
Speaker 1: This is this.
Speaker 4: I can already answer the question. Ben Jones would be
Speaker 4: the same way, And it's like I had already kind
Speaker 4: of in my mind. Was like the way I've been
Speaker 4: ramping up my training and how hard I trained. You
Speaker 4: can ask anybody's ever training me know how hard I go.
Speaker 1: It's like.
Speaker 4: You already ramped up. You're working out since mid February,
Speaker 4: already up to April. Why taper it back? Why don't
Speaker 4: you keep going? I mean, I'm already in me ands,
Speaker 4: I'm doing zoons with which coach books savety coaches kind
Speaker 4: of in tune with what's going on. So I wanted
Speaker 4: to be able to keep going and keep pushing this thing,
Speaker 4: keep pushing the limits of my training instead of just
Speaker 4: going back. They really had nothing to do with the
Speaker 4: whole contract stuff, because I'd have had these conversations with
Speaker 4: myself January, like bron probably gonna just like train on
Speaker 4: my own as much as I can, obviously being in
Speaker 4: tune what's going on. But you know, I'm five years
Speaker 4: in with the same defensive coordinator. That's the biggest thing
Speaker 4: you just said, you know what I'm saying, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: the the defense is the same, And I get, you know,
Speaker 4: the whole showing the young guys how to work and
Speaker 4: stuff of that. But I bring the young guys with me,
Speaker 4: like Roger trained with me before he even reported, like
Speaker 4: I I'm the one who he organized them. I get
Speaker 4: these guys, right, you know what I'm saying. They come
Speaker 4: to me like you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, but as an older player,
Speaker 4: you really understand like this is a business, Like it's
Speaker 4: a business.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I think you like what you're
Speaker 3: speaking to as well, like any any player or any
Speaker 3: pro athlete that like that understands like how to taper
Speaker 3: their training and it's really just bought all in from
Speaker 3: the get go. Like there are guys who fucking go
Speaker 3: and live the life and then they almost need to
Speaker 3: get back and do a little bit shit.
Speaker 1: That's why coaches and the team want them to come
Speaker 1: back game, you get a pulse on them.
Speaker 3: You're not a guy that any any coach ever worries about, right,
Speaker 3: So you even known that yourself. Like when you have
Speaker 3: the right people around you and the right training staff
Speaker 3: and everything else, and you know where you like to
Speaker 3: work out, you know what you do. You could periodize
Speaker 3: all your training and ramp up the intensity at a
Speaker 3: different month, versus like, hey, I need to be ready
Speaker 3: and in shape because they're gonna fucking hit us with
Speaker 3: you know, ten gassers or something on day one of
Speaker 3: OTA's when you don't need to be doing that OTAs. However,
Speaker 3: on the team side, they want to know who might
Speaker 3: be in shape and who might not be in shape.
Speaker 3: But the guys are worth who are worth the shit
Speaker 3: they already know in their head, like, man, why why
Speaker 3: am I here doing stuff like this? This doesn't need
Speaker 3: to be happening for me in my training until later
Speaker 3: in the year. But then you also battle the being
Speaker 3: there around the team, the whole leadership and everything else.
Speaker 4: But like I said, I just think from at least
Speaker 4: from my perspective, you know, like you said, when you're
Speaker 4: looking at the whole training, it's really about trust, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, like I think verbel in the
Speaker 4: coaching staff understands that this guy take care of his body.
Speaker 1: Like I haven't missed the game my entire career. Are
Speaker 1: you mess with the saunas You're always in that damn
Speaker 1: cole tub And that's just in.
Speaker 4: The building, Like, yeah, you go home this building from
Speaker 4: bodywork tochi practice, you know a lot of different stuff,
Speaker 4: and we can get in that too, But you know,
Speaker 4: I feel like they trust to know that this guy's
Speaker 4: not gonna come in out of shape.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy that we ever really had to
Speaker 1: worry about his weight.
Speaker 4: He's not a guy we have to worry about when
Speaker 4: we're running gas in the practice, like he's out of shave,
Speaker 4: we got to run him some more.
Speaker 7: Like I'm not the type of person.
Speaker 4: So my my and this is the business side of it,
Speaker 4: is like my job is to be the best safety
Speaker 4: for the Tennessee Titans, point blank period. The plus is
Speaker 4: is he's a great leader. He's a great community leader.
Speaker 4: Like those are all things who make me who I am.
Speaker 4: But from my contract and and all that stuff, is
Speaker 4: like to be the best player that you can possibly
Speaker 4: be for this team at all times as long as
Speaker 4: you're on this team. And that's why that's that's that's
Speaker 4: how I train, That's how I prepare myself. Is like
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to be the best player that I
Speaker 4: can possibly be in I know how to do that.
Speaker 4: Like that's what I've been you know, That's what I've
Speaker 4: been doing. It's the reason why I'm as consistent as
Speaker 4: I am because my routine in the off season, my
Speaker 4: routine during the season is what it is. So and
Speaker 4: I think that they trust that I know what I'm
Speaker 4: doing when it comes to training and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: The words though, obviously this guy is gonna come in
Speaker 4: great shape and he's not gonna miss it be he's
Speaker 4: gonna know what's going on with the defense. He's gonna
Speaker 4: come in and communicate and all that good stuff. So
Speaker 4: I think if they didn't trust me in that aspect,
Speaker 4: then maybe they would have had more of an issue.
Speaker 7: If obviously it's all volunteer.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, but it might have been a
Speaker 4: different conversation, you know what I'm saying, right.
Speaker 1: Especially since you're such a proven that anyway. I mean
Speaker 1: against seven years, same.
Speaker 2: Team, community, all that stuff, five years with you know,
Speaker 2: same terminal and everything else. Yeah, man, there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of a reason for you to be at
Speaker 2: OTAs from let's take a leadership perspective.
Speaker 4: And honestly, like even I think, like OTAs and Verbele
Speaker 4: would tell you, like OTA is about learning. It's about
Speaker 4: especially if you're a new guy coming on the team
Speaker 4: from another team, learning like the verbiage, speaking the same language.
Speaker 4: And also just for young rookies, that's just getting to
Speaker 4: the league. Like it's about learning the defense. Like nobody's
Speaker 4: winning the job in OTAs. Like as much as people
Speaker 4: want to put articles out there, what's the position battles, Like,
Speaker 4: there's no position battles going on OTAs. It's about learning.
Speaker 4: And obviously, guys and you still getting this because it's
Speaker 4: a nine week program. Guys are still getting back into shape,
Speaker 4: trying to get in the best shape. But then, you know,
Speaker 4: we always talk and coach I always talk about those
Speaker 4: five or six weeks that you're away during the summertime.
Speaker 4: It's like it's not a time to chill on vacation time.
Speaker 4: It's time to continue to ramp up. But yeah, I think, gods,
Speaker 4: just you know, it's about learning, and so I think that.
Speaker 4: It's also a plus that some of these younger guys
Speaker 4: are able to go up there and get the reps
Speaker 4: that I probably would have been taken if I was there,
Speaker 4: right what I'm saying, because.
Speaker 1: They're getting more hands on work.
Speaker 4: I mean, we know, like the best teams are teams
Speaker 4: that have depth, Like you can have a good starter,
Speaker 4: but if a god goes down, obviously nobody wants to
Speaker 4: go down. But you know, especially for safeties, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, you need two or three safeties. Like
Speaker 4: last year, I think that there was probably obviously Hooker,
Speaker 4: I think he missed like eight games, So you missed
Speaker 4: a few games last year. But bro I had like
Speaker 4: four different safeties play with me, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But if they wasn't able to get those reps and
Speaker 4: things like that, I mean, it's just it's challenging. So
Speaker 4: you kind of understand, like for a guy that was
Speaker 4: playing nickel this week and now he's playing safety this week,
Speaker 4: or a guy we just signed during training camp, or
Speaker 4: a guy that doesn't really have a lot of practice
Speaker 4: reps throughout the week or throughout the season, and then
Speaker 4: when we two or three guys go down, now he's
Speaker 4: the starter, and he's like, AKB, like, hey talk to
Speaker 4: me out.
Speaker 1: Here now, you know, yeah, I understand that. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard, bro.
Speaker 4: Like, So I think during this time it's really good
Speaker 4: for some of these younger guys to be able to
Speaker 4: go in get these reps because you know, you you
Speaker 4: also have players, and it goes for position where like
Speaker 4: gods are super sharp in the meeting room, guy spitting
Speaker 4: back to what the coach is saying, and everything that
Speaker 4: you get out in the field is like you put
Speaker 4: the classroom onto the four different games.
Speaker 1: It's faster, you know.
Speaker 4: And then I mean you talk about from practice and
Speaker 4: you go from preseason, it's a little bit faster than
Speaker 4: the regular season is way faster.
Speaker 7: So I just think it's always good for those guys
Speaker 7: to get those reps.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Preseason is the biggest form of trickery when you were first,
Speaker 2: when you first get in the league, because you playing preseason,
Speaker 2: like if you're playing the third fourth quarter, like, let's
Speaker 2: really ain't that much.
Speaker 7: Different from you're thinking it's sweet.
Speaker 2: You think out here in the week one hits and
Speaker 2: you're like, holy fuck, bullets are lying.
Speaker 4: I remember our rookie preseas. I had a really good
Speaker 4: rookie preseas. I caught two picks in the preseason.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My first game at Nissan, caught a pick almost picked six,
Speaker 4: like juking people and all I'm like, bruh sweet out here,
Speaker 4: like yeah, yeah, you know what, I'm him. And then
Speaker 4: our first game, uh, we played the Vikings.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 7: My first tackle was against ap really static, bro. But then,
Speaker 7: like you you.
Speaker 4: Realize, Like then I think like the next game, I
Speaker 4: don't remember, I might have been Raiders or something like that,
Speaker 4: and I remember I was coming down fitting the hole
Speaker 4: or whatever. Pause, but uh, I was pulling and it
Speaker 4: was a it might have been as similar, uh bro,
Speaker 4: and I'm trying to fit them up. God literally tossed
Speaker 4: me probably about three yards and I was like, oh.
Speaker 7: Ship, yeah, like this is the league. You know what
Speaker 7: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It just like it's a little different because, like you said,
Speaker 4: you think preseason it's like damn, like it's sweet out here, like,
Speaker 4: but you don't realize like all these other guys they're
Speaker 4: fighting for spots and stuff like that too.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you get with those twos and threes, it's
Speaker 2: more of a blunt bat.
Speaker 7: It's like, bro, I'm out here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not here making plays right, I mean my
Speaker 3: head like you know, but the nerves are up, like
Speaker 3: you're just on high alert the entire time, boltter flying
Speaker 3: the entire when you play one in.
Speaker 1: The solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, feeling yourself, you got shoes on, everyone's everyone's way
Speaker 2: more joking and all that. That's the only positive I
Speaker 2: play practicing it's another team because you know, like those
Speaker 2: starters really aren't like, hey, we're gonna getrough these two
Speaker 2: days exactly for the game. We get to literally watch
Speaker 2: a football game on the sidelines and hang out. Literally,
Speaker 2: one's chirping, having a great time. You're gonna try to
Speaker 2: get a hot dog in the locker room during halftime,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I'm trying to figure out where
Speaker 2: it's at.
Speaker 1: Not for real.
Speaker 4: It was funny because I remember even Brave was first
Speaker 4: year or two, like, I think we went against the
Speaker 4: Patriots one year.
Speaker 1: And hey, that was when Tom Tom was there in
Speaker 1: the red zone. That was about Tom and the redsum
Speaker 1: went I think seven for seven, seven killing the first.
Speaker 4: Day talking about we was going like some red tune. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he was literally just looking off everybody like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's covered too easy. Took this way touchdown.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 1: It was funny.
Speaker 2: You would go defense was up and then we would
Speaker 2: go so then we're like we'd get to watch. I
Speaker 2: was watching like man, Tom's still him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible.
Speaker 4: It's very obviously, you know, that's one thing about Predican
Speaker 4: nut seen like the first day, like gods are going hardy,
Speaker 4: most of are flying stuff like that, and then you know,
Speaker 4: then the next day go out there and it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: y'all got the day off. You know a lot of
Speaker 4: veterans just like whole starting defense, we're still out here practicing.
Speaker 1: Last year.
Speaker 2: Dudes, they all like the first day they did it,
Speaker 2: it was a bloodbath out there. The next day it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, who am I going against here? And then
Speaker 2: all those dudes are being shoes.
Speaker 1: And now broke out it in their praying Jeff and
Speaker 1: Fournette and you kind of wish that would have happened,
Speaker 1: like Indy.
Speaker 4: See, it's funny because I've learned when I was a
Speaker 4: younger player, I just tried to jump into stuff or
Speaker 4: like try to be the one to break just chill, chill,
Speaker 4: Like then you kind of learned, like bro just let
Speaker 4: him have it, like it just kind of back up, like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gonna fly in there anyway. But he did.
Speaker 3: Well, you know he was he was because that was
Speaker 3: part of the skit too, like he was like holding
Speaker 3: Jeff back and talking to him and trying to calm
Speaker 3: him down.
Speaker 7: Somebody got punched out, It was funny.
Speaker 1: That is wild. Did you get punched?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: It was a Fournette right, because Fournette was was talking
Speaker 1: about it on the bus. Yeah, but who do you
Speaker 1: get punched by? I think he did say he got hit.
Speaker 1: I just can't remember who you got hit?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that was funny about that,
Speaker 4: Like coach t Or it was like some coaches like
Speaker 4: kind of went down down like randomly.
Speaker 7: It was hilarious, bro Like, yeah, it was training.
Speaker 2: We were talking about in the last podcast how those
Speaker 2: practice against other teams are like the biggest blood back
Speaker 2: that's harder than any game.
Speaker 4: No, they are for and the second day is always
Speaker 4: the day where like people really get the fightings. The
Speaker 4: first day, you know, the coach they bring you up,
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a good, clean practice and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: so it's the opposite coach. But then the second day
Speaker 4: it's usually like that big special team's day. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: the best time is to punt because you got you
Speaker 4: got the gunners on the outside. Everybody's chirping them up
Speaker 4: like oh we gotta go go one in front of everybody.
Speaker 4: It's lit and they're obviously you know, guys were tired,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Like when we uh the
Speaker 4: year before, it was funny we played we actually practiced
Speaker 4: against Tampa two years ago.
Speaker 1: Not our office was there.
Speaker 4: Everybody was like either hurt, like literally, we didn't have
Speaker 4: anybody like it was Tannehill and it might have been
Speaker 4: one starting office, a lineman and we had a couple
Speaker 4: of receivers, like the whole office.
Speaker 1: A linement was like he's just like kind to stay back.
Speaker 1: Was rehabbing. We had a guy fly in into Tampa
Speaker 1: like he was he got cut. They're like, hey, you're
Speaker 1: back on the team. Brought the man. He practiced the
Speaker 1: two days, did the did the preseason game, and then
Speaker 1: they cut him the next day.
Speaker 7: We actually we actually go to Minnesota.
Speaker 4: We go to Minnesota this year and I would say
Speaker 4: I love practicing against other teams at home going there's
Speaker 4: a different ball game because you know, you kind of
Speaker 4: training campus one of those deals where you know, have
Speaker 4: the practice, your family get to run up and all that.
Speaker 7: You kind of enjoy that stuff.
Speaker 4: When you're going somewhere you're in the hotel, you don't
Speaker 4: have the luxury of like, oh I can get in
Speaker 4: the hot tub and you got you know, you kind
Speaker 4: of you got the comforts in the weight room, bro.
Speaker 4: Like you literally just it kind of reminds you back
Speaker 4: like high school or college or whatever. It's like, bring
Speaker 4: your bus, you bring your paths on the bus. You
Speaker 4: get on there, You're sitting there for how long it
Speaker 4: takes you to get there, and you get off the bus.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, it's.
Speaker 4: Trying to start warming up because you know it's the
Speaker 4: older player.
Speaker 1: It's like I need a hot tub.
Speaker 4: I need you need it all you do something, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And so obviously, and then Tampa
Speaker 4: was extremely hot. So we get down there and we
Speaker 4: practicing and I don't this is like it went viral
Speaker 4: at the time, but like they were doing one on
Speaker 4: us with AB was still on Tampa, and I got
Speaker 4: Chris Jackson, a cornerback on the team, Like dudes, get
Speaker 4: the fighting all cause I'm over covering with the tight
Speaker 4: ends and everything, and then like I'm not even understanding
Speaker 4: what even happened until after we're in the meeting room
Speaker 4: and like you know, God's kind of on breaking on
Speaker 4: their phone and I just see this picture of like
Speaker 4: AB punching on our DB's in the face, and he did,
Speaker 4: I ain't gonna lie, but it was I think this
Speaker 4: is right. So it was like it was this, It
Speaker 4: was this picture and then like literally it was funny
Speaker 4: because it was like a meme. It was like one
Speaker 4: picture was that one, and then the next picture was
Speaker 4: him connecting in his face and the God was like
Speaker 4: this toughlook, and I was like, bro, that's a tough look, bro.
Speaker 4: But then I'm kind of getting on the DB's like, bro,
Speaker 4: where was y'all at? Like it's like something, but this
Speaker 4: is training camp, bro, Like it's supposed to be a
Speaker 4: whole team out brawl like on some baseball stuff, Like
Speaker 4: everybodys supposed to run up and start brawling, like nobody
Speaker 4: knew what. Obviously, Ab got thrown out of practice and everything,
Speaker 4: but like and then he it was funny because he
Speaker 4: I thrown a practicing out of nowhere, Like during the
Speaker 4: team here reappeared back out there running up.
Speaker 7: It was different real beard, literally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: That's so nuts. Man, Do you guys get to go
Speaker 2: to Minnesota? You going to Minnesota is so much better
Speaker 2: than go to Tampa.
Speaker 7: It has to be.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be so much nicer.
Speaker 7: It was so hot.
Speaker 4: Minnesota because I remember Tom Brady obviously he was the
Speaker 4: quarterback at the time, and I remember we was doing
Speaker 4: like it was like in between the spast teams period,
Speaker 4: you know, we're over just on the sideline kind of
Speaker 4: talking to the dB coach, and I remember Tom was
Speaker 4: coming out of the bubble like he's out there in
Speaker 4: the a C is chilling obviously with the court air
Speaker 4: in the bubble. And then so it's about the time
Speaker 4: to be seven on seven, Like he's coming out of
Speaker 4: the bubble. I was going, the man right there, the man,
Speaker 4: that is the there's guy.
Speaker 1: I said, he.
Speaker 7: Yes, So this guy's the man.
Speaker 1: Is there anybody else.
Speaker 2: You've ever seen besides Tom Brady that you've been like,
Speaker 2: holy fuck, that's so and so uh like on like
Speaker 2: playing you know, like practicing, yeah, practicing, playing whoever, but
Speaker 2: like you feel like, oh, that's so that's that's legit.
Speaker 4: Trell sucks Holy ship. That's actually Tom Brady. I mean
Speaker 4: nobody definitely nobody's biggest Tom. For sure, Tom's the biggest
Speaker 4: of all time. But like I'm like, I've met like
Speaker 4: a like for example, this was two years ago, and
Speaker 4: this is when the super Bowl was in l A.
Speaker 4: And I was out there for a couple of days
Speaker 4: and you know, athletes Furst my agency and they had
Speaker 4: like this little mixer deal. It's kind of just hanging
Speaker 4: out and talking to Reggie Wayne and I was having
Speaker 4: a conversation and then like Reggie was like.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I'm just sat here talking to like and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know, like D and P's to tell me a
Speaker 4: lot about you, like really you know, respect your game.
Speaker 7: And I'm just just like Bro were.
Speaker 1: Talking as fucking do as cool as fuck. Bro's hard
Speaker 1: not to really fan boy. Yeah. I was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I appreciate it. You know, love Bro
Speaker 1: much love you.
Speaker 2: Give him flowers? You're giving flowers to hey man, I'm
Speaker 2: a big fan. Or did you leave it alone?
Speaker 1: But I didn't want to cool because you know, you
Speaker 1: kind of get a situation.
Speaker 4: We probably gets this all the time, So I kind
Speaker 4: of want to separate myself from the regular.
Speaker 3: Like like I feel like even even the players, even
Speaker 3: like Ed Reed, like you know, he probably watches your game.
Speaker 1: You're good, Like, oh, I'm fucking he's not.
Speaker 3: He might not be thinking I'm talking to Kevin Byern
Speaker 3: buddy sitting there building like a real when you when
Speaker 3: you get miss Flowers, he's probably.
Speaker 1: Like for sure.
Speaker 4: And like I said, dp's was uh was our defense
Speaker 4: coordinator for two or three years, and uh ext always
Speaker 4: showed me every highlights and just what they used to
Speaker 4: do as a defense and like I's been trying to
Speaker 4: do my disguises like every like this is what he's
Speaker 4: doing on this play right here. Yeah, let me go
Speaker 4: ahead and put this in my my memory. Was fucking nasty, nasty.
Speaker 4: He was the truth bro and obviously a fan boy
Speaker 4: over a trop poblem all though I met my second
Speaker 4: this might have been my second year.
Speaker 7: It was like a Thursday memory played the Thursday night game.
Speaker 4: We had the Smurf jerseys and yeah ab like past
Speaker 4: oh yeah yeah, like that night in the meeting room,
Speaker 4: like uh, Dick Labo brought in like Casey Hampton and
Speaker 4: some of the old Steelers, and he brought Troy and
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. That was like Troy and
Speaker 4: everyone was like, and Brian Doggon is like my favorite
Speaker 4: sages of all time, and like.
Speaker 2: I know you've worn out the YouTube video weapon acts
Speaker 2: of Brian Dawkins.
Speaker 1: Of course. You know what's funny, bro, that funny thing.
Speaker 1: You just brought that up, Jack, So listen one of
Speaker 1: the best.
Speaker 4: I was a quarterback in high school, right, I never
Speaker 4: forget the first day my coach was like, hey, like,
Speaker 4: cause I was running track, I was getting faster, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. He was like, I think you
Speaker 4: look really good on them hashes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, safety, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 4: it's not something I thought about it. I was like,
Speaker 4: of course, you know, anything for the team, anything for
Speaker 4: the team a line, bro, first videos I ever played,
Speaker 4: like when I start getting sided about playing safety.
Speaker 1: Was this video right here on YouTube. Brop in next.
Speaker 3: That's that's one of the best ones of all time,
Speaker 3: like the little Symphony song in the background.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, this guy's a fucking lunatic. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I got the point.
Speaker 4: I used to play this. I used to play that song.
Speaker 4: This is like the little Symphony song on my iPad.
Speaker 4: You know everybody's had a iPod.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm saying, beating out of your dog give
Speaker 1: it to me watching that fucking YouTube video. Bro, same bro,
Speaker 1: But now I'm older, now I realized that.
Speaker 7: But this guy was on.
Speaker 1: I ain't saying that he was on some crazy because
Speaker 1: he was all lot.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Why like coke the most it takes free workout
Speaker 7: you probably can take.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 7: That's what you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, hey, like, be done, Calm the fuck?
Speaker 2: Do you know?
Speaker 1: You know they were ducing there like he's too much?
Speaker 1: Do you feel I was so.
Speaker 4: Hypen Heights watching this, but even just thinking about it, like, bro,
Speaker 4: this guy was crawling out of the tunnel. Yeah, thinking
Speaker 4: about it, Taylor, you know how we are. You know
Speaker 4: you're doing your pregame, the introductions. Yeah, and god a
Speaker 4: kind of staying out there, Taylor Lawn.
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, man, some guys don't even get the dap.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, your hand out there, But
Speaker 1: to see a dude just like just imagine the smoke
Speaker 1: comes out into God just starts to crawl and just
Speaker 1: start doing it.
Speaker 4: God's probably be like, yo, what he goes Wolverine, like, bro,
Speaker 4: what's going on right now? Towards the end, it had
Speaker 4: to be dope, But what the first time he did it?
Speaker 4: Could you imagine the first time he like came out
Speaker 4: and crawled like, Bro, like the fuck is he doing
Speaker 4: out there?
Speaker 1: Like doing out there? Dude? Whatever you just took? Yeah,
Speaker 1: give me somebody.
Speaker 2: You see the interview of Spikes talking about him, be
Speaker 2: talking about I want to see how bad they want
Speaker 2: to play today, bike, I want to see how bad
Speaker 2: hits over the morning hits over like the on the sideline,
Speaker 2: it was like God, almighty, hallelujah.
Speaker 1: He's like, what is this man on? He didn't cuss
Speaker 1: like he's like he said gods like he never cussed,
Speaker 1: but but there I feel like that he was. You
Speaker 1: don't curse.
Speaker 2: If you don't curse, you can't be saying things like
Speaker 2: frick like Bernard Pollard would say things like freaking.
Speaker 4: Shoot dB coach like, bro, the same thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: say something cooler than that, I know, but he did
Speaker 4: the dog on chest thing is is badass, b He
Speaker 4: would be crazy like the energy likes. It's not sustainable,
Speaker 4: no doubt not sustainable.
Speaker 1: He was one of the best man different playing in
Speaker 1: Philly too, with that lunatic fan base, and he had
Speaker 1: the dark visor. The dark visor goes crazy. Yeah, bro,
Speaker 1: he was built like that was the truth.
Speaker 6: I know.
Speaker 2: That's what you that you get there when you are
Speaker 2: like a shorter dude, you have the ability to have
Speaker 2: like you look a little more stacked.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know. And he got that thick neck yeah
Speaker 1: halls just but no, I mean gas neck. No son
Speaker 1: to Kao spikes Spikes for real had that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he laid him out. He had to be like two
Speaker 1: fitty algie crumbs, just nuts. Yeah. He was a different
Speaker 1: type of cat besides the Titans.
Speaker 2: When you're looking at fan bases, like what's the fan base,
Speaker 2: You're like, man, I like that'd be sick to get behind.
Speaker 4: So it's funny, man, when I was coming out, like
Speaker 4: I grew up a Steelers fan, Like, it's funny I was.
Speaker 7: Philadelphia but grew up Stellers fan. Like my family didn't
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 4: But I remember being at the Singer Bowl and like,
Speaker 4: Stiller's like one of the one of the only teams
Speaker 4: that like just didn't meet with me. Like I was
Speaker 4: kind of hurt by damn. Like I love Mike Tomlin
Speaker 4: and I obviously got a lot of respect for me.
Speaker 4: Know we've had conversations now, but at this time, I
Speaker 4: was like, bro, like, no, they need a safety, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. And it's funny because they actually
Speaker 4: drafted to safe in the second round, like a couple
Speaker 4: of picks before me. I was like, damn, the safe
Speaker 4: that they drafted was the guy who started next to
Speaker 4: me in the Singer Bowl.
Speaker 7: No, yes, bro, it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, like Pittsburgh, obviously, were you
Speaker 1: better than him?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna say that, but I mean
Speaker 4: I'm still in the league, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's no, there's no shade, no shade.
Speaker 4: It's just you know, I'm sure if they can, if
Speaker 4: they can redo it, yeah, they might reconsider it. But
Speaker 4: uh but no, Like obviously, like you said, Phillies fan
Speaker 4: base is intense. I remember we played a preseason game there.
Speaker 4: I think was very boars our first second year. The
Speaker 4: preseason game, yeah, three fights broke out.
Speaker 1: In the stands. And then obviously this year we're like
Speaker 1: the fans was cussing out the owners and like that.
Speaker 7: This stuff is real bro. Like that game with a
Speaker 7: J that had to be.
Speaker 1: Especially at all. Did he get you?
Speaker 7: No, I was on the once.
Speaker 4: It was like a play where like we sit in
Speaker 4: the corner blitz and I was like supposed to be
Speaker 4: like a tight one third.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to pretty much be a third player.
Speaker 4: But when you're watching the fimbal playing a man, the
Speaker 4: man from like ten yards off or whatever, he like
Speaker 4: broke a slat. But I didn't really cover him at all,
Speaker 4: like other than that one play. But it was very
Speaker 4: tough because it was like obviously he was destroying this
Speaker 4: at the same time like being a friend of him, yeah,
Speaker 4: kind of happy for him.
Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah, like just a little bit, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like like well, like you know, we let him go
Speaker 4: to the Eagles like this, like what what do Wedde?
Speaker 1: You had to know going into that wing, like this
Speaker 1: man's probably gonna try to go off on I mean
Speaker 1: everyone AJ is like they had that circle before the season.
Speaker 2: That's probably his first question the gym once he got Traders,
Speaker 2: like do we play the Titans this year?
Speaker 7: Going to the goal post, whooping the gold post.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it was man.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, when he caught that touchdown and
Speaker 2: they called it back and then then the next play
Speaker 2: that ship was nuts.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 2: I mean it sucks because like we're sitting here and
Speaker 2: you got to realibus a little.
Speaker 7: Bit, but like, nah, it's definitely suck.
Speaker 2: You gotta be like you said, you gotta kind of
Speaker 2: be happy for him that slamp.
Speaker 7: Yeah it was a slam, but he was like in
Speaker 7: a cover three.
Speaker 2: But you know see that's the kind of shit that
Speaker 2: PFF would look at and be like, minus KB, he
Speaker 2: should been playing out more man the man, Like.
Speaker 3: You know, pffa kb's the top three safety courting No
Speaker 3: I saw the notes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: So it's funny because I actually had an interview at
Speaker 4: PFF and I told him.
Speaker 7: I was like, you know, when it works.
Speaker 4: Out good and like, PFF of grade and you high
Speaker 4: retweet me the best safety in the leap?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but were your greatest terrible?
Speaker 7: It was like, right, I don't know what they talking about.
Speaker 1: Like we had a whole fight with them during the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: We ileg just almost like you guys don't know what
Speaker 2: the fuck you're talking about No, they're like maybe ten
Speaker 2: fifteen plays, we don't know, Like that's a gray area.
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, ten fifteen plays if you like the
Speaker 2: player and you give them a plus like grade now
Speaker 2: in the eighties.
Speaker 1: Exactly, it doesn't.
Speaker 4: And that's another thing I just think, like when you're
Speaker 4: grading the safety, like for example, you're giving a safety
Speaker 4: a cover grade, coverage grade or whatever it may be, like, oh,
Speaker 4: this statey was targeted this many times, and it's like
Speaker 4: were those man and man targets right? Or was this
Speaker 4: guy in zone and no office to a lineban Like
Speaker 4: the linebacker didn't get no depth on his play rights
Speaker 4: in the honey hoole.
Speaker 1: But you were the closest look But you were the
Speaker 1: closest guy. Yeah, you was a deep you.
Speaker 4: May have been a deep middle safety, but you had
Speaker 4: a good break in the line band and you know
Speaker 4: dead they put it right in the honey hole and
Speaker 4: you made the tackle or that's your target, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, how are you great in that?
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, but hey, top three staty going
Speaker 2: to be at Congratulations that's big.
Speaker 7: No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: That's big. I appreciate. We will clip this and post
Speaker 1: that too, like top three.
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta feel a little bit slighted because
Speaker 2: you're you're you're a good ball player. No, No, there's
Speaker 2: been see a couple of Pro Bowls here and there,
Speaker 2: a couple of All Pro situations.
Speaker 1: It's like fan basis. Yeah, we know that.
Speaker 4: I think anybody would test to if I played for
Speaker 4: the Cowboys or the Steelers or maybe the Chiefs or
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't just be or Eagles, whatever it may be. Like,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be just all always guys.
Speaker 4: A really good safety like I would have multiple All pros,
Speaker 4: multiple Pro Bowls. Because it was my second year in
Speaker 4: the league, first Pro Pro Bowl, led the league and picks.
Speaker 7: Came back the next year and had four picks, two sacks.
Speaker 4: I balled out again the next year, and usually once
Speaker 4: you get in the first time, he used to kind
Speaker 4: of just rolls in off of respect. Yeah, that same year,
Speaker 4: I think one of my favorite safeties, Eric Weddle, got in.
Speaker 4: I think I think he got in that year. He
Speaker 4: was old then, and I think he may have had
Speaker 4: like one pick that year or something like that. It
Speaker 4: was some weird, you know what I'm saying something like
Speaker 4: it was like and then after twenty nineteen where I
Speaker 4: had five picks, that year balled out again, like I'm
Speaker 4: tomorrow we're putting consistent numbers together.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I didn't get in. I was like, Bro,
Speaker 7: I don't even care no more.
Speaker 1: Like really, yeah, I got hurt. You had to hurt
Speaker 1: so bad. You're like, I can't emotional about this yet.
Speaker 1: It was just one of those things, just bro, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, how many probos you got? I got too,
Speaker 1: got too.
Speaker 4: But every time I went to the Pro Bo, I
Speaker 4: was a first team All Pro, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 4: which is so weird, but I'm saying I had to
Speaker 4: get to that top top, like first team All Pro
Speaker 4: to get that Pro Bowl vote. Yeah, And I just
Speaker 4: kind of understand it, like it is what it is. Like,
Speaker 4: we know Nashville doesn't have the biggest market when to
Speaker 4: come to football, and I.
Speaker 1: Think it's the smallest media market it is.
Speaker 4: It's like I know, for example, I remember when we
Speaker 4: first got when I first got Dreadgon likeed they told
Speaker 4: you like we're like bottom three, bottom five ors. It
Speaker 4: probably went up a little bit more since then, but
Speaker 4: it's still not at the top, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So you almost have to really go like crazy for
Speaker 4: like the fans and everybody to really pay attention because
Speaker 4: and let's even talk about pro bo voting. You know,
Speaker 4: as players, we voting in the pro bos. Now they
Speaker 4: do a mobile when you're do on your phone. So
Speaker 4: for me personally, I stay in tune with what's going
Speaker 4: on around the league as far as other states how
Speaker 4: they're balling. But I have some guys on my team
Speaker 4: be like, so, who's balling this year in safety? Like
Speaker 4: I don't I know this guy?
Speaker 1: I know that guy.
Speaker 4: Right, you're in the rooms, vote based upon guys that
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: And this the last ten minutes of a position meeting
Speaker 2: before you go out to practice, so you have to
Speaker 2: get it done. You're looking at stats, say hey, who's
Speaker 2: who's doing well and doing what?
Speaker 7: They don't do it no more.
Speaker 4: It used to be where like said, they bring that
Speaker 4: piece of paper in with the stats and everything. No,
Speaker 4: now it was just it's a battle on your phone.
Speaker 4: And they have two guys from each team, don't they
Speaker 4: stats on there? It just be vote for this guy,
Speaker 4: vote for that guy. And so you are literally go
Speaker 4: down the list. For example, I don't really know like
Speaker 4: guard play as much as I know what's in the
Speaker 4: back end. Like when I watch film, I know, for
Speaker 4: some defensive linement, they only watched the end zone copy.
Speaker 4: I had to watch the wide CAPPIs, I had to
Speaker 4: see the coverage the past concept and started.
Speaker 7: So I don't really know.
Speaker 4: Like when I go down the list and I vote
Speaker 4: for pro bow guards, I don't even know why they
Speaker 4: got DB's voting for guards and it was a line plague.
Speaker 4: It's just like I know this guy, and I know
Speaker 4: that guy's nice. It's like bru, like vote for your
Speaker 4: first choice, to first choice, two second choice, for the
Speaker 4: two second choices. Like I'm probably gonna pick the guys
Speaker 4: that I know. Zach Martin, Yeah, probably he's probably obviously
Speaker 4: he's a Hall of Fame player. But it might be
Speaker 4: another guy's more deserving this year. But I may not
Speaker 4: really be in tune with like, oh, this guy's really balling,
Speaker 4: but a defensive line might be like, hey, this guy's balling.
Speaker 7: But I'm in the sign of doing this, you know,
Speaker 7: just over with you know what I'm saying, Vote for
Speaker 7: this guy, vote for that guy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So in the top one hunters similar too, because you
Speaker 2: literally go into the kitchen and they're like, hey, fill
Speaker 2: out the sheet, maybe like ten dudes, twenty.
Speaker 1: Right, you feel at the top twenty and then.
Speaker 4: To And I don't even know how this, like how
Speaker 4: they come up with this list because I've never voted.
Speaker 4: There's never like a league wide thing that comes out
Speaker 4: of both of your top one hundred players.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because remember it's always like the Hindu as sheets sheets.
Speaker 4: To be sitting in a cafeteria. Top twenty guys. I'm like,
Speaker 4: if a guy felt like feeling out, they'll do it.
Speaker 4: But like nobody really paid paid any mind. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: like who's really the person that's really voting for this?
Speaker 2: And you could usually tell who actually did vote because
Speaker 2: whoever they put number one, it's usually the person that
Speaker 2: was voting. Yeah exactly, like you know, Derek Hey, Derek Henry.
Speaker 2: And then what are all the elements that go into
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl voting?
Speaker 1: Media?
Speaker 2: A third media, third coaching of third players? But I
Speaker 2: think that I don't think the media includes fans.
Speaker 4: I go, yeah, yeah, it's actually not even it's fans
Speaker 4: one third fans one third coaches and one third players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I got a conspiracy theory that the fan
Speaker 2: vote is just strictly for interactions and on the internet,
Speaker 2: because I don't think I all Pro Bowls I ever made,
Speaker 2: never once was in the top ten of voting.
Speaker 1: For AFC for AFC tackles. For sure, I believe that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I think that's all I like, how KB
Speaker 1: just yeah, I believe that for sure, because I.
Speaker 4: Mean, at the end of the day, I think that
Speaker 4: you know, and then also you know, like it depends
Speaker 4: on like who team has the best.
Speaker 1: Record, Like records are a big deal. We beat the.
Speaker 7: Ravens in the playoffs.
Speaker 4: They had like thirteen guys in the Pro Bowl, right,
Speaker 4: and it's like the first for a fact, because I
Speaker 4: was right, right, I'm looking at the guys, I'm like, you.
Speaker 7: Got a guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But you know, it's
Speaker 4: kind of what it is, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Your rookie year was our first nine and seven after
Speaker 2: those two abysmal years, and that's when we had like
Speaker 2: ten dudes in like I think Rack Drell Delaney was
Speaker 2: in there.
Speaker 1: I made it. Marcol Murray made it, her made it
Speaker 1: like we had like seven eight dudes with media.
Speaker 4: Markett was there. Yeah, that was That's hilarious. Yeah with
Speaker 4: that boy man, but yeah, I mean it's it was weird. Bro, Like,
Speaker 4: do you remember BT.
Speaker 2: Coming thinking I was actually gay when he came to
Speaker 2: the Titans. No, you don't remember that. So we were
Speaker 2: he was with the Raiders the year before, and I
Speaker 2: remember saying like we were on field goal and I
Speaker 2: said to him like, hey, man, if you didn't have
Speaker 2: that face mess, I would literally I kiss you.
Speaker 1: You're so cute, you're this that.
Speaker 2: And BT goes up to Ben Jones when he first
Speaker 2: gets to the Titans like it was like OTAs.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, what's the deal with seventy seven?
Speaker 6: Is he?
Speaker 1: Like for real?
Speaker 2: And Ben's like, oh, yeah, he's gay, but like it's
Speaker 2: not out, like we just kind of care to ourselves.
Speaker 1: So we're around here.
Speaker 2: So I wrote him a note. I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: can't wait to get to know you. So cute bah
Speaker 2: bah bah oh my big hugs. Tind of kiss this
Speaker 2: type of thing, and I put.
Speaker 1: In his locker and Bro, he wasn't.
Speaker 2: Took three four months to even get Yeah, it took
Speaker 2: us a couple months to even get back to neutral.
Speaker 1: But we could even become friends. He was hilarious.
Speaker 4: BT was like our third safety and it was funny.
Speaker 4: I remember we'll being doing defense. You know, obviously got
Speaker 4: offensive and defense whatever, and so wow the defense up.
Speaker 4: BT would literally be riding a bike on the side
Speaker 4: like I'm not getting in. What do you mean like
Speaker 4: just riding the bike Like, yeah, I just here to
Speaker 4: play special teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a knew his knew his role. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Him and dB yeah, baits the same ways. Is the
Speaker 2: ultimate hype man. Bates and David Questenberry were the two
Speaker 2: best hype man on the sidelines.
Speaker 4: Or one like a guy like Base is a guy
Speaker 4: that you need on your team just for that aspect
Speaker 4: of a guy that just don't give down by anything.
Speaker 1: Right in that energy on the sideline, he's literally running
Speaker 1: up and this happening. He's fucking doing his whole thing
Speaker 1: like he's ready.
Speaker 4: He might ever played any really good team, you always
Speaker 4: have just this one guy on the team that just
Speaker 4: literally just doesn't give a fun by anything.
Speaker 1: Doesn't give a fuck about anybody. You need that, Yes,
Speaker 1: but when Tom's get roped to the ref bro to
Speaker 1: the reft, hey hey, fucking getting what are you doing.
Speaker 4: He's in the media. Yeah, he'd be in there like
Speaker 4: Paul being there. He hated Paul, like, hey, hey, he
Speaker 4: tried to fight Paul one time in the locker room.
Speaker 4: I literally had to be like hey, uh it was
Speaker 4: after a game. It was like a Monday or Tuesday
Speaker 4: had to be like twenty nineteen. Is because Bates like
Speaker 4: was in his face Ian to come up to bats. Hey,
Speaker 4: it's not that serious, Like he let him be the villain.
Speaker 3: It's all good going toes two after the game, after
Speaker 3: a game on the weekend. So I think it carried
Speaker 3: over and linked into the week Yeah, because he did.
Speaker 4: He literally just blast the loudest, most vulgar music when
Speaker 4: the media comes in on purpose to word the media
Speaker 4: had like, hey, man, you tell this guy to cut
Speaker 4: the music down if we can't hear anything like.
Speaker 1: Get the as Yeah, it was. We would do the
Speaker 1: same thing in the on line corner.
Speaker 2: We would play like loud, like scream of music or
Speaker 2: like some weird Adam Sandler parody music or something like that.
Speaker 1: That was just a fun time though. He's the locker
Speaker 1: room guy.
Speaker 7: He's the locker room guy definitely, all time.
Speaker 4: All because I like, you don't meet a lot of guys,
Speaker 4: especially in the NFL, that aren't like at least try
Speaker 4: to tote the line between being politically correct, like he
Speaker 4: just doesn't care, does not care. I probably respect him
Speaker 4: more of an He's probably the most authentic I've ever
Speaker 4: met because he just authentically one hundred percent him. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter, like matter, what doesn't matter if he's
Speaker 4: in front of vailable, Like if he was around the
Speaker 4: President of the United States, he would be exactly. I
Speaker 4: don't think he would change up who he is at all. Right,
Speaker 4: Like he like Henny the Jannet, like Bates, bro, like
Speaker 4: can't do nothing, respect it, loves Kevin Gates loves.
Speaker 7: Because Gates been Gates been tripping.
Speaker 1: What's he been doing, bro, He's just horny, but always
Speaker 1: knowing these horny No no, no, no, no, he's been tripping.
Speaker 1: Like he Kevin Gates was fat, right and then he
Speaker 1: got real skinny? Yeah no, no, I think you got
Speaker 1: skinny though he got skinny.
Speaker 2: He's like talking about meditation now and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: He's like a lightening Like, yeah, he's like an lightning cat.
Speaker 1: Always been about horniness, No, bro, he's always been around
Speaker 1: video on instad I don't know if y'all can pull this.
Speaker 4: He put a video on Instagram probably a couple of
Speaker 4: weeks ago, was like talking about he was about to
Speaker 4: take like a break off social media, and like, bro,
Speaker 4: I don't even want to it's so it's funny as ship.
Speaker 4: But he was like that, you know, I'm about to
Speaker 4: give my assistant to handle on my social media. But
Speaker 4: do me two favors. Find me that one person I
Speaker 4: told on and find that one person they sucked my.
Speaker 7: Dick or some shit like that. Bro, he did it.
Speaker 4: Yall can find his video, Bro, please find it, dog
Speaker 4: listen because I didn't even do it any justice, bro, because.
Speaker 1: You're the video. Kevin Gates, not Darren Bates, not a
Speaker 1: Kevin Gates. I thought you said something else said someone
Speaker 1: who suck my deck. Yeah that's what I thought you said.
Speaker 1: That was worse. Oh yeah, you know. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know it's worse, but it's pretty bad as far as.
Speaker 2: Being horny, Like that's probably the If we're talking about
Speaker 2: levels of horny, that's the horniest level.
Speaker 1: Hey, that is a lie. Did anybody find him? I
Speaker 1: don't think so.
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, I wonder what Darren's stances on this. Now,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm curious. Ugh, I bet you Daran's even
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Speaker 1: Back to the episode and see how you feel about
Speaker 1: this man. Darren came out saying, of all the podcasts,
Speaker 1: Sports podcasts.
Speaker 2: He beat the fuck out of everybody scene. That's he goes,
Speaker 2: he goes, deals got that knee. I go up to
Speaker 2: that knee immediately. That was funny as fuck. But listen
Speaker 2: baits two on two versus Yeah, it's it's it's over three. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's kind of he's got that Dawkins build.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's got them limbs.
Speaker 2: I you know, i'd have to put the bully on
Speaker 2: him where I put grab his forehead and he tried
Speaker 2: to be swinging.
Speaker 1: I don't have to do that to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dB, he'll he'll we'll have to we'd have to
Speaker 3: end dB like he'll be he'll fight to the day.
Speaker 2: And that's what you got to love about DP. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: if we're in that situation, that's what we'll.
Speaker 1: Have to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that we'll have to do the
Speaker 4: d dB is gonna fight fair either, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but is it really really fair? Fighting and fighting
Speaker 2: passed the mid not at all? Pass you what couper
Speaker 2: a while I don't. Yeah, I think if you're in
Speaker 2: a street fight, like there is no fighting fair.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. There's no code of like oh
Speaker 1: like you know, like no, bro, Like if you're on
Speaker 1: the ground, like you gotta just out crazy the next person.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get weird in a fight.
Speaker 7: Yeah, how weird?
Speaker 1: Like I'll do whatever it takes. I'll tell you I'm
Speaker 1: getting Kevin Gates weird.
Speaker 4: But you're gonna in the fight all together, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: gonna pull his pants down?
Speaker 2: Was like that? What's that?
Speaker 1: You want to fucking he post his face and you
Speaker 1: want tod whoa? Yo, Yo, that's me dude. I'm getting
Speaker 1: a fight thirty one years old? Dike it easy? Man's
Speaker 1: back on?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: True? Who's that? What's that?
Speaker 2: Charlie Days? Like, Yo, I'll beat your dick off. I'll
Speaker 2: beat your dick off with both hands and say, yo,
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Dude?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would dick.
Speaker 1: Off a guy like that.
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm probably like, bro, let's just god squash the beef.
Speaker 4: Like it's not even that we're good.
Speaker 1: We're good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't got to do that. When's the last
Speaker 2: time you've been in a fight, bro, I can't even remember.
Speaker 2: It's been that long.
Speaker 4: Yeah, has parny situations? Nothing to mtsu, bro, Like I've
Speaker 4: gotten a situation. But I never really got into a
Speaker 4: real fist fight, like as an adult. Yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: Like I'm just a cool dude, Like guys don't really
Speaker 4: trot me like that. I don't know, Like and I
Speaker 4: think I'm respectful most people, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Like I can think of like Tom's in college, like
Speaker 4: on some football stuff where like I remember being a
Speaker 4: young player, like I think we was doing like some
Speaker 4: drilling football and coach make us do up doown. So
Speaker 4: like I'm pissed off. Yeah, you're not running to the
Speaker 4: fucking ball, like you know what I'm saying. Older veterans
Speaker 4: like trying to charge me. This guy's like two ninety
Speaker 4: I'm two hundred and ten pounds, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: Saying'm like, bro, I'm not gonna fight this dude, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not dumb, you know what I mean, Like in
Speaker 4: that way, he's got to pass on him and all
Speaker 4: I ain't got my helmet on, Like not gonna fight
Speaker 4: this guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're not a chirper, like you you don't.
Speaker 2: You're passive in a positive way, Like you're not people
Speaker 2: are chirping. You're like, man, you do whatever you're doing,
Speaker 2: and then you grab your little speaker and you go
Speaker 2: to the colt.
Speaker 1: Up and just chill.
Speaker 4: Yes, when I was a younger player though, like my
Speaker 4: second year in the league, I remember I was just
Speaker 4: talking crazy.
Speaker 1: Really, yes, I do not remember you talking crazy ever,
Speaker 1: Like I remember they.
Speaker 4: Had this clip of me and Jarvis Landry getting into it,
Speaker 4: like I don't know when I was a young player.
Speaker 4: You know, just fight for everything, everything for your respect.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, bro, I'm out here.
Speaker 7: Like what you mean.
Speaker 4: MTSU small school guy, but not small school. But you
Speaker 4: look at it small as it's not. It's not Nebraska,
Speaker 4: but it's a small school.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I think we won more games in Nebraska.
Speaker 1: Oh that's probably true that yeah, But what conference are
Speaker 1: you guys even playing in? You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: I mean you got to schedule big games to make money.
Speaker 2: They probably played at Alabama or something like that. You
Speaker 2: probably played Tennessee one time, probably got whooped. We did, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you played on with the red shirt. Actually, my
Speaker 2: senior we played against Bama.
Speaker 4: It was a Derek's Me and Derricks both last year
Speaker 4: and I always talked shit to them like there's the
Speaker 4: only game in your whole senior year, you didn't have
Speaker 4: a hundred rushing your hearts, but for real, like ninety
Speaker 4: eight though.
Speaker 7: And it took about the halftime.
Speaker 1: So the final one too, I mean still ninety eight
Speaker 1: under a hundred.
Speaker 2: When you're at a small school like that, like and
Speaker 2: you're playing Alabama, do they pop on like Applelashia State first,
Speaker 2: Michigan be like these guys did it?
Speaker 4: It's bro, it's of course, but yeah, because like you're
Speaker 4: kind of going to the game. We's not like the
Speaker 4: coaches like yeah, we're just gonna lose the game, like
Speaker 4: they try to just you know.
Speaker 1: Build you up.
Speaker 7: But honestly, I go into the games like that.
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, this is for any player that's at
Speaker 4: a school like MTSU that's going against Bama, like this
Speaker 4: got to be the game.
Speaker 7: You're in your mind like, well, this is the league game.
Speaker 7: I'm going to the league off this game.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah at it. That's a good mindset. That's a
Speaker 1: good mindset.
Speaker 4: And it was honestly every meeting that I had with
Speaker 4: teams that that whole process was went straight to the
Speaker 4: Bama game. So if any player that thinks that these
Speaker 4: games don't matter, like that's the only game that really matters.
Speaker 4: Like if you're at an MTSU or any small school
Speaker 4: you're playing. Let's say, because I think we played Bama
Speaker 4: that year, we played Van Dy and think of another team.
Speaker 4: But I call it picking every single game in both
Speaker 4: of those games, really, and so every meeting I had
Speaker 4: with an NFL team, Alabama game in the game. Didn't
Speaker 4: watch any of the other little conference games and none
Speaker 4: of that. So you know, they mean a lot.
Speaker 2: Isn't it funny when you're in college and you could
Speaker 2: tell when the coaches think you're gonna win or lose,
Speaker 2: if they if they if you're playing a team you
Speaker 2: know is better than you, the coaches are very positive.
Speaker 1: Hey, we sit together.
Speaker 2: But if you're playing a team that they know you
Speaker 2: can beat, they're way harder on you that week you
Speaker 2: try to crush you.
Speaker 1: You never had that, huh oh yeah, absolutely. They were
Speaker 1: like that at at Nebraska. Oh you guys, Yeah you
Speaker 1: us were good when you're at Nebraska. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we were solid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were terrible when I was at least nine
Speaker 2: games every year we were off, we probably would have lost. No,
Speaker 2: It's funny because those guys likes one good year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had a winning season I think every year, but
Speaker 2: we were never like Michigan. We were like we were
Speaker 2: a middle tier Big ten teams.
Speaker 3: You're talking about, like say we played like South Dakota
Speaker 3: something like that, Like we would always kind of fuck
Speaker 3: it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be like it would be like close and then
Speaker 1: you know they have even more reason runners O.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's the worst when you think, like yo,
Speaker 2: I might legit like get the fourth quarter off in
Speaker 2: this game if we do what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were always good for a loss, and we
Speaker 3: didn't lose to like a team like that, but we
Speaker 3: were always good for a loss that we shouldn't have
Speaker 3: lost that year.
Speaker 1: Like we we were nice one year and loss to
Speaker 1: like drop would argue on Northwestern.
Speaker 4: I will argue this though, and the difference between the
Speaker 4: big schools, SEC ACC all that schools and and obviously
Speaker 4: like you know Thomas USA, some the biggest difference is
Speaker 4: the trenches because like skilled players, is not really that
Speaker 4: big of a difference.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel.
Speaker 4: Percent obviously you're gonna have the one thought, not that
Speaker 4: big of a difference. The bigger difference is the game
Speaker 4: is always be the trenches. It's gonna get blown out
Speaker 4: in the trenches. But as far as the skilled players,
Speaker 4: because you have a lot of guys that are very
Speaker 4: talented on the outside, but they don't get that big
Speaker 4: offer because maybe their grades sucked or.
Speaker 1: Or something like that.
Speaker 4: But you're not about to just make up Taylor Wan
Speaker 4: like at MTSU, like we don't get those type of athletes.
Speaker 4: You'll get up. But I'm saying for me, I was
Speaker 4: I was a skilled player. I mean DB's receivers. You
Speaker 4: can get a transfer guy to come in that's really
Speaker 4: talented and may have other big time offers, but something
Speaker 4: happened he had to go to a smaller school. But
Speaker 4: it's usually not the same case. When you look at defensivelignment,
Speaker 4: office of line like you do, do this a big difference.
Speaker 2: We were at the Barstool Bold game in Towson, Arizona,
Speaker 2: and Wyoming was playing Miami at Ohio was Miami Hio
Speaker 2: and I was watching the offense line warm up, and
Speaker 2: you can there's a there's a big.
Speaker 1: Difference uses a big the man, these guys are small.
Speaker 2: There's somebodys that are like really fucking big, but like
Speaker 2: kind of out of shape, and there's like guys that
Speaker 2: are way small, and there's like this is a big difference.
Speaker 3: There is a big difference Titans. I mean we were
Speaker 3: talking like in the NFL, anybody can fucking anybody can
Speaker 3: catch any given Sunday for real. But even the games
Speaker 3: like as we start to get better at the at
Speaker 3: the Titans were there were games Jets like there are
Speaker 3: times you play the Jets, but we should win this
Speaker 3: game by ten or more points.
Speaker 1: You should and you end up losing Jacksonville. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. Jacksonvill has never really been a problem to
Speaker 1: us yet, but it.
Speaker 4: Is weird, bro, because I feel like it's always a
Speaker 4: game or two, at least one game a year since
Speaker 4: I've been with the Titans where it's like a game
Speaker 4: you going into it, you know, you kind of look
Speaker 4: at the schedule at least going into that, and.
Speaker 1: We just like this game we should win. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: should absolutely win this win.
Speaker 4: Usually it's funny because the games that we're usually favorite
Speaker 4: to win, we don't do too well, or we may
Speaker 4: make it close, or we may lose the game. But
Speaker 4: the games we aren't favorite it at all, we go
Speaker 4: out here and just dominate people.
Speaker 1: Destroy right, weird.
Speaker 2: And the thing that sucks is as you get older,
Speaker 2: you start to realize that pattern, like, oh, we're playing
Speaker 2: this team week five. Week five comes up and you're like, boys,
Speaker 2: we've got to focus because this is always the one
Speaker 2: we drop correct and for.
Speaker 1: Some reason, we still fucking drop it.
Speaker 7: But you're aware.
Speaker 1: I'm aware, you're aware.
Speaker 2: But we're still like, dude, we gotta get this one's
Speaker 2: by those trap games, yes, I think they're like, but
Speaker 2: for what there's no trap games in the NFL unless
Speaker 2: you're like right towards the playoffs. But like it's exactly
Speaker 2: is a trap game, but like there's no reason to
Speaker 2: have a trap game week five.
Speaker 4: Because I don't know, Like, remember we when we lost
Speaker 4: to the Jets a couple of years ago. It was
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one. We lost the JITs, and you know,
Speaker 4: they had a rookie quarterback, and like, looking at the rosters,
Speaker 4: we think, like, bro, we should win this game, right,
Speaker 4: were looking at our roster, looking at our team. It's
Speaker 4: like how you walk through the Thames like one and
Speaker 4: then we go out there, I think, no, off, do
Speaker 4: you guys give it like nine sacks or something like that.
Speaker 1: There's a blood Beth out there. Bro. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: Luckily there was there was wasn't and I don't really
Speaker 1: know how good they were. I don't know how good
Speaker 1: that dude was playing on the right tackle. He made it.
Speaker 1: He got paid the next week. You know that, right now,
Speaker 1: he did. I got paid like seventy million dollars next week.
Speaker 1: The next thing.
Speaker 2: I had no idea who the fuck this guy was.
Speaker 2: And he had like three four sacks on.
Speaker 7: I was like, we're bawling going on over there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's tough.
Speaker 2: I literally took the boy who the right tackle, and
Speaker 2: I was like, man, I did that happened to me
Speaker 2: two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: It's all good. Hey, you're gonna you're gonna live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you give up sacks like that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is for what a dB
Speaker 2: thing would be, maybe like I don't I get moss
Speaker 2: or something, but giving up a sack, you can play
Speaker 2: a great game. You give a one sack, you're like, bro,
Speaker 2: everybody sees it.
Speaker 4: I would definitely look at that. It's very similar as
Speaker 4: far as the dB versus left tack. You can have
Speaker 4: you play six snaps in the game, give a one sack.
Speaker 4: You had a terrible game, right. Thing then for a
Speaker 4: dB is like but you can have fifty nine great snaps,
Speaker 4: but if you get snagged on for a touchdown, that's
Speaker 4: the only thing people remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you get be for a big play, that's probably
Speaker 1: the worst.
Speaker 7: And a dv BRO, there's nothing.
Speaker 2: More helpless looking than after a dB, Like dude kind
Speaker 2: of catches one in the end zone and the dB
Speaker 2: kind of just like turn around and walk a last You.
Speaker 4: Don't really know what because you know, like the cameras
Speaker 4: always runing to you, like you don't really know how
Speaker 4: to react.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you don't really know. It's like do I just
Speaker 7: walk off?
Speaker 1: Hit him with one of these like oh, palms up,
Speaker 1: pums up, you know what.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like you don't really know what this is, Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's gonna take my l just walk off, just walk off.
Speaker 2: Or but and then also too like maybe that wasn't
Speaker 2: your guy and you had to go cover up late
Speaker 2: and it looks like it was you, and you know,
Speaker 2: it looks like it was you, but for some reason
Speaker 2: you wanted people to know like, yo, that wasn't me.
Speaker 1: But see I said, you got like to make it.
Speaker 3: Similar and similar, like he explained his type over three
Speaker 3: and it looks like me and the man at ten
Speaker 3: yards on AJ Brown first, Yeah, exactly like.
Speaker 1: That, where's the backer coming out here? Like, bro, yours man?
Speaker 1: You on need to learn how to do a hook
Speaker 1: drop and cover three at times. No, the back went
Speaker 1: out to the left. You gotta expand. So I'm just playing.
Speaker 4: But it is one of those things where you got
Speaker 4: to make a split decision where it's like do I
Speaker 4: go sell my guy, especially if it's a touchdown, like
Speaker 4: cause you'll see some dbs a guy gets scored on,
Speaker 4: you immediately turn around like, bro, where was you at?
Speaker 4: Like cause to kind of let the TV and people
Speaker 4: at home know, like, bro, it wasn't my fault, Like this,
Speaker 4: I know I'm over here.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't me. Just as I'm here, just mean
Speaker 1: I'm guilty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want so it's like, you know, as
Speaker 4: being a leader, you kind of just got to like,
Speaker 4: let's get to the sideline.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 4: But in the back of your mind you thinking, like
Speaker 4: when you when you go home and you watch the film,
Speaker 4: like damn, everybody think pff.
Speaker 1: Think it was me. It was me. It does sit
Speaker 1: in your mind for sure, but you know y'all threw
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 2: It's even worse when it's your When it's your fault,
Speaker 2: you're like, fuck, man, that's on me. I gotta be like,
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out a way to make sure that
Speaker 2: doesn't happen. But when it looks like it was you
Speaker 2: to me, that hurts more because you're like, dog like,
Speaker 2: how do I navigate this where people I can let
Speaker 2: people know when me without selling somebody out like it's
Speaker 2: a weird a bunch of weirder fears.
Speaker 3: He may say it in some fashion, whether it's you know,
Speaker 3: within the confinements of a meeting, eat whatever, like hey man,
Speaker 3: come on, we're gonna talk about this, right, coach, you say.
Speaker 1: I need to hear you play.
Speaker 2: If I would get on the sideline after something bad happened,
Speaker 2: like guy made inside movie guard was supposed to be there,
Speaker 2: something like that, I'll sit on the sideline sometimes like
Speaker 2: be like Quentin Spain, but hey man, my bad. I'd
Speaker 2: be thinking like, say, shit, Louder see that fucking louder
Speaker 2: bro like get so mad.
Speaker 1: Sometimes yeah, the house.
Speaker 4: He was like, bring you start running to the ball
Speaker 4: so much like because you know, at the end of
Speaker 4: the day when you're the last guy in the screen
Speaker 4: is like I think it's you. We're like, yes, oh,
Speaker 4: you're supposed to get the guy now or it's supposed
Speaker 4: to be right there. So it's like stop running to
Speaker 4: the ball so much. It's like, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't me to get it, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: saying that way, But it was just funny man, Like honestly,
Speaker 4: uh yeah, I would say left tackling in safety is
Speaker 4: very similar in a way where it's like, bro, you can.
Speaker 1: When you mess up everybody, Yeah, bro, you can have
Speaker 1: a great corner like.
Speaker 3: A d like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just tough man garden center are It's
Speaker 2: kind of nice. Is when sacks happened in the middle,
Speaker 2: like you can't really it's you can do it's an
Speaker 2: offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're supposed to get that one. But for everybody
Speaker 1: else at home, it's like, oh, yeah, he bumped into
Speaker 1: a lot of guys. The backers exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: What he says, like linebackers like you guys get you
Speaker 1: guys get covered up. It's supposally covered up a lot linebackers.
Speaker 1: Defensive tackles all seen when you make the big hit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you're destroying guard and you get in the
Speaker 4: backfield whatever, But like they don't see when like, oh,
Speaker 4: you was literally supposed to be in this gap, but
Speaker 4: you just went rogue right and just went another way.
Speaker 4: He's supposed to panic drop, and now this guy is
Speaker 4: screaming on the safety and now I gotta I get jooked.
Speaker 7: And the only thing that goes viral is, damn, he
Speaker 7: just broke this guy off.
Speaker 1: And the linebacker in the back kind of jogging after
Speaker 1: the guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but also backers, if any run is broken, like
Speaker 3: at the line of scrimmage, it's always gonna be blamed
Speaker 3: on the backer and maybe not a defensive lineman who
Speaker 3: didn't stay in their.
Speaker 1: Gap the other gap. Yeah, story, Yeah, the defensive lineman part.
Speaker 3: Usually, Yeah, you're gonna be in the field room. Hang
Speaker 3: on now, hang on, we're talking. We're talking public attention.
Speaker 3: We're talking to people at home, sitting in Washington and
Speaker 3: something like that. If we're talking about being in the
Speaker 3: meeting room, then everybody gets got in the meeting room.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying publicly, when you're watching the game, if
Speaker 3: a back breaks one up the middle, it's usually gonna
Speaker 3: be blamed on the backer.
Speaker 4: But that's because you know football, that's the that's the
Speaker 4: view the lens you're seeing it from.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about regular fan. Regular fan perspective is
Speaker 1: watching the game. What is the safety doing? How many times?
Speaker 1: Don't want to grab just laying out. Here's why we
Speaker 1: all here's why we all sound like this.
Speaker 3: It's because we've only searched our own names in the
Speaker 3: search bar, so we all know how.
Speaker 1: We get destroyed out there. You're like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? But never you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: you're only you're only searching quote Will Compton quote dude,
Speaker 1: but you put it in how many times latest after
Speaker 1: a game? Like when you know you got dummy? How
Speaker 1: many times in your life?
Speaker 2: Like, man, hopefully this didn't you know, hopefully nobody's how
Speaker 2: many times in your life have you played a good
Speaker 2: game and you're excited to go to the Twitter search bar?
Speaker 2: Come on now and and you're like, hey, left tackle
Speaker 2: is getting destroyed.
Speaker 1: Oh yo, we gotta cute. Yes, I think anybody could
Speaker 1: attested this.
Speaker 4: Obviously, leaving Nissan, there's traffic coming out the gate and
Speaker 4: the little one been another right, everybody's on Twitter by
Speaker 4: that point you're in your car, Bro, you got your
Speaker 4: phone out. If you know you had a big game,
Speaker 4: you're immediately in the locker room, even if you had
Speaker 4: a bad game. Sometimes it's like I'm a wait, I'm
Speaker 4: waiting out. Maybe I'll wait till I get to the
Speaker 4: house because I know it's gonna be bad.
Speaker 2: I'm not Taylor the Arizona game. Oh yeah, Arizona. I
Speaker 2: had to put some fires out, Like literally.
Speaker 1: You got ahead of it. I had ahead of that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you had eminem yourself. I am old myself situition that
Speaker 1: you explained.
Speaker 3: I'm literally in the parking lot and I see Taylor
Speaker 3: tweeted about the Arizona game, and I was like, oh.
Speaker 2: No, dude, Bro, that was the most embarrassing game of
Speaker 2: my entire life. And the thing that's so crazy is
Speaker 2: like I've had bad games, but like going into the game,
Speaker 2: like you know, I don't feel like sometimes you're just
Speaker 2: not feeling it, Like you're like, hey, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: You don't play with well, you're okay, how can I
Speaker 2: figure it out for next week? Going into that Arizona game,
Speaker 2: I was like I'm fucking back, like I was. I
Speaker 2: legitimately in my head, like we had the game.
Speaker 1: Plan, game plans, like Taylor, We're first play of the game,
Speaker 1: We're running left, We're doing this. Boy had a good camp.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I'm about to be back. Not
Speaker 1: gonna do nothing to me. We were on the phone
Speaker 1: before talk house to get ivy y. Yeah, I'm like fighting,
Speaker 1: like I'm legit.
Speaker 2: Like, There's been a lot of games where I'm like,
Speaker 2: I get nervous before because like I don't get to
Speaker 2: attack like you guys do. I have to like protect.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, hey, I gotta make sure I protect
Speaker 2: my guys. And so there's like anxiety with that. This game,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm about to fucking go off Like this
Speaker 2: first play, I'm about to take Chandler Jones. I'm about
Speaker 2: to take him to the sideline first place. Do you
Speaker 2: remember the first play the game?
Speaker 7: I don't.
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Speaker 2: episode TfL, I'll run out, I fuck in my landmarks God,
Speaker 2: he goes you, She's string tackle and Derrick Henry. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh no, first play the game and I'm fucking and
Speaker 2: then the second series sack Hit.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it was what's it for all of us?
Speaker 4: We got destroyed, that we got destroyed, which is which.
Speaker 2: Is like what Rabel's narrative was to me. The next day,
Speaker 2: he called me in his office and I want you
Speaker 2: to know, we didn't lose that game because of you.
Speaker 2: We gotta thinking to myself, it was close, though, because
Speaker 2: we got to call me in this office.
Speaker 4: Into spins like about DeAndre Hopkins. I remember, oh, and
Speaker 4: Jeff Simmons got broken. He was getting driven because like
Speaker 4: people that didn't play Arizona during the I forget the
Speaker 4: head coach's name.
Speaker 1: He had like real kings Bear Kingsbury, King Kingsbury, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I said, Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah, I respect him the media,
Speaker 1: but my bad.
Speaker 4: But this guy had a real college tempo offense. And
Speaker 4: so we're practicing that week, like, but it's gonna be fast.
Speaker 4: Like they don't huddle, they don't do anything. When you
Speaker 4: get out there in the game. It's the first game
Speaker 4: of the season. It's hot, a ship outside and bro,
Speaker 4: they are moving. So we're getting driven all the way
Speaker 4: down the field, get like to the high red zone.
Speaker 4: Coach fuck it, I don't know blitz zero and I'm
Speaker 4: lying up out there.
Speaker 7: It's like, oh shit.
Speaker 4: DeAndre Hophins at number two already know what's about to
Speaker 4: happen as soon as he snapped the ball. This guy
Speaker 4: just because it was blissing, so they already new what
Speaker 4: was gonna happen. Guy me to just put his hands up,
Speaker 4: just got at a little nown pass, caught the boss.
Speaker 4: I'm driving trying to go inside inside.
Speaker 7: Out guy me.
Speaker 4: He stuck his splitting the ground, spent out and literally
Speaker 4: got an Inzo. He was like on the fifteen twenty
Speaker 4: yard line or something, and Bro I was like, this
Speaker 4: is bad. Bro's getting a touchdown. Pff. You know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying. Gave a touchdown. You know, Hey, that's the
Speaker 4: first thing.
Speaker 1: But I was pissed, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: like you said, the way that game went, Bro, the
Speaker 1: game was terrible.
Speaker 3: Colard was making some insane place like he got so
Speaker 3: much time back there at times, Jeff.
Speaker 1: You know what he did, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Yes, he was on the sidline and Arizona sideline kind
Speaker 2: of game one of those, and Jeff kind of looked like.
Speaker 1: He got shot.
Speaker 4: Like Bro like seeing a guy in like an open field,
Speaker 4: like saying, it's like a little role runner, like his
Speaker 4: feet is moving so fast, and so if you're coming
Speaker 4: down as to safety like usually you want to be aggressive,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna kick his legs out.
Speaker 7: But that's one of them things like like hold.
Speaker 4: On, let me, let me chop my feet a little Biteah,
Speaker 4: I'm saying, if I really get broke off, if he
Speaker 4: ain't watching highlights in him just breaking guys off just
Speaker 4: because you know, like he never lost the game in
Speaker 4: high school and like he just like he's always been
Speaker 4: this guy and he's been doing that.
Speaker 1: It's been a winner.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oy, I'm just gonna force my outside
Speaker 1: its force my bunds.
Speaker 7: Like it's kind of like Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2: Bounds in the game of football. What's like the most
Speaker 2: embarrassed you think you've ever been? Like, is there a
Speaker 2: one game or one situation you're like, that is the
Speaker 2: most soolf morowment?
Speaker 4: Oh man, because I got a couple of them, because uh,
Speaker 4: how was he playing a game long enough?
Speaker 1: Youre gonn get h no question?
Speaker 7: I remember playoff. Lamar Jackson broke me off.
Speaker 1: I was like in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 7: That was twenty twenty when we lost.
Speaker 1: In the Years round. God, that was so disappointing that
Speaker 1: we lost.
Speaker 4: He broke up the middle, broken tain and like he
Speaker 4: was full of speed already and I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: let me try to break down and he just gone.
Speaker 4: It was literally nothing I can do at that point. Uh,
Speaker 4: I'm not broken. I mean, you have missed a couple
Speaker 4: tackles where a guy went like ninety some yards oh man,
Speaker 4: I feel like when I leave here, I remember like
Speaker 4: a even more embarrassing moment for sure. But uh yeah, man,
Speaker 4: you know any time I got scored on, that was
Speaker 4: just embarrassed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like, you know what's so funny is like being on
Speaker 2: offense when we see teams get scored on, like you
Speaker 2: guys get scored on, Like I would never think, oh,
Speaker 2: KB fucked up there, I think, oh fuck, they scored
Speaker 2: We gotta go do something. Really yeah, because we talk
Speaker 2: all the time, like being able to zoom out from
Speaker 2: like what you do on a day to day basis
Speaker 2: all right, because you think you get mossed or something happens,
Speaker 2: like you get broke off by Lamar. You probably think
Speaker 2: the whole world just saw me get fucked up by Lamar.
Speaker 4: Jackson because Twitter, search bar everybody, everybody was killing me,
Speaker 4: like damn.
Speaker 1: Your wrong.
Speaker 2: But it's like it's if you just be able to
Speaker 2: assume that a little bit, like then you could do it,
Speaker 2: Like why I talk about Arizona, like hey, your boy
Speaker 2: got toasted. But then you bring up like hey, DeAndre
Speaker 2: Hopkins did it to me?
Speaker 1: The Simmons thing.
Speaker 2: This you don't realize everyone had ship in that game. Bro,
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, I can't believe that happened.
Speaker 4: Played this game, you realize, Like, Bro, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You're gonna have a bad game.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a bad player. Just like how do
Speaker 4: you respond?
Speaker 1: You eventually just get god. Everyone gets gone.
Speaker 7: The longer you play, You're gonna get God.
Speaker 1: This is what it is, what it is, man, Just
Speaker 1: question on, Uh, you're talking about DeAndre Hopkins. Scorn on you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins is a Titan.
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, Like I just looking from his perspective,
Speaker 4: he probably is not gonna sign until later on this summer.
Speaker 4: It's probably gonna take his visits, get quartered around a
Speaker 4: little bit. I mean, probably didn't even want to do
Speaker 4: O t A's or mini camp anyway. So it's like, Bro,
Speaker 4: I mos probably just signed, uh right before training camp.
Speaker 4: But I don't know, man, I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: what all teams is looking at him, you know what
Speaker 4: I'm saying, But I think it's us in the Patriots
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: So obviously he'd be a great addition. He would would
Speaker 1: love to have him on the team.
Speaker 4: Massive, because like you have this what you're like on
Speaker 4: social media where like guys are just like recruiting guys
Speaker 4: all over you know what I'm saying. Lead, Like, I've
Speaker 4: never been that type of dude because I always I
Speaker 4: felt like I would feel a way that if let's say,
Speaker 4: for example, it's a really good cornerback that's out there
Speaker 4: free agent, like bro, come join the team.
Speaker 1: Bro, like team up. But then I got like other
Speaker 1: guys in the team like damn, but you say I suck.
Speaker 1: You think I'm not good enough?
Speaker 4: Like I never wanted to be in that type of
Speaker 4: way where it's like I'm trying to recruit all these
Speaker 4: different players from other teams like with the eyes and
Speaker 4: all that on social media. It's like I don't know,
Speaker 4: guys want to come join if you call me, you
Speaker 4: reach out to me. Like actually, arden Key who signed
Speaker 4: on our team, he reached out to me before he
Speaker 4: signed this deal here. But what the coach in Tennessee
Speaker 4: like thinking about coming to Tennessee a couple of other
Speaker 4: teams and I kind of spit around like bro, you
Speaker 4: should come, you know I'm saying, but uh yeah, Like
Speaker 4: I just never been that guy just trying to recruit
Speaker 4: in a bunch of players around the league.
Speaker 7: But obviously we all know who DeAndre Hopkins is.
Speaker 1: Like, bro, he really yeah, he's a dog. Anytime we
Speaker 1: played Houston.
Speaker 4: He played Arizona last training camp or practice gives some
Speaker 4: last training camp and we were doing like a red
Speaker 4: zone period and this guy is probably like the five
Speaker 4: yard line. This guy runs a fade on Christian fall.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I think it went viral. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it did or not, but and Christian Folds
Speaker 4: is a really good corner. Yeah, you guys play Madden
Speaker 4: and then like you go off your the spectacular catch thing,
Speaker 4: you push track and.
Speaker 1: They just go to some little animation. Literally did this
Speaker 1: in real life.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 7: This man literally just put his hands up.
Speaker 4: When I say, he just literally like almost bicycle kicked
Speaker 4: in the air right hand, like the ball's in here,
Speaker 4: right hand, huh, and just like walk brought it back.
Speaker 4: It was the most amazing shit I've ever seen. Like
Speaker 4: this is no bs, like literally like a regular relief.
Speaker 4: It wasn't nothing crazy record release hum And just like
Speaker 4: is if Christian wasn't even there, like put his left
Speaker 4: hand right here.
Speaker 1: Blocked him out and just walked off. God damn, you know.
Speaker 4: You're in the middle of practices, like I'm running to
Speaker 4: the ball and I see it.
Speaker 1: God damn God, Like you just gotta respect, like give
Speaker 1: a nod. It was incredible. Tell Christian like you're all
Speaker 1: good man, he's a free That was like that one.
Speaker 1: It was one of them, is like you just like
Speaker 1: I'm mistakenly was like oh ship teammates and Christian heard it. Damn.
Speaker 2: He was always doing crazy ship to us when he
Speaker 2: was at Houston. He was always doing wild ship and
Speaker 2: he would.
Speaker 1: Just probably had his best games against us.
Speaker 7: Problemly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a beast man. He's always been a
Speaker 1: bea anytime.
Speaker 2: Anytime Fuller was into then fully Fuller was hurt a lot.
Speaker 2: The Fuller and Hopkins were both playing as like we
Speaker 2: would new in offense and like, hey, bro, we got
Speaker 2: to score forty my.
Speaker 4: Rookie or second year I remember he did like we
Speaker 4: had a slot corner Bryce McCain and this guy did
Speaker 4: like a walk off release like literally took like three
Speaker 4: steps off the line and just like broken this thing,
Speaker 4: like just broke him off.
Speaker 7: Like so this guy's the truth. Now he's the truth.
Speaker 1: He holds the ball like this it will be like spinning.
Speaker 4: But they said his hands, like god, ma fucking hands.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that was like, bru It's crazy, though,
Speaker 4: X is the rumor. I mean he he probably has
Speaker 4: the best hands.
Speaker 1: In the league for sure.
Speaker 7: I won't say probably. I think he has the best
Speaker 7: hands in the league.
Speaker 2: What was cool McCoy saying to you, Colt McCoy when
Speaker 2: he was in Arizona, he said, dog, he was saying,
Speaker 2: he'd come up to monthside, like, hey, throw me the ball, man,
Speaker 2: what are you doing, Like, just throw me the ball?
Speaker 1: And he said, like, uh.
Speaker 3: The hop would sometimes just run his own route within
Speaker 3: kind of maybe the confines of what the play is,
Speaker 3: but he would just run his own route, not even
Speaker 3: the right route, but just run his own route.
Speaker 4: He's like, man, just just throw me the ball, Like
Speaker 4: throw it to where I'm trying to go. I know
Speaker 4: for a fact he does, because I remember we was
Speaker 4: playing them twenty eighteen.
Speaker 7: I never forget. This was me and the door.
Speaker 4: We're like, obviously going to the game plan. We're gonna
Speaker 4: double team him when he's lined up like by so outside,
Speaker 4: and I was he kept running this little dig row
Speaker 4: and I've seen it on feeling kept runing his dig row.
Speaker 4: I told her door because he was pressed. I said, listen,
Speaker 4: if you run this dig I'm breaking on it. Just
Speaker 4: protect me high and literally as soon as I felt
Speaker 4: him about to run the dick, I broke and this
Speaker 4: guy literally did one of these and took off deep,
Speaker 4: threw his hands up and obviously threw the ball up
Speaker 4: and he didn't catch it. Not he I don't think
Speaker 4: he did, but I remember like I was like, it
Speaker 4: was like one of those oh shit, I broke down.
Speaker 4: I turned around just like literally just threw my hands
Speaker 4: up at there, hoping he didn't catch the ball. That's
Speaker 4: why it was like, Okay, he's literally doing his own
Speaker 4: thing out here for real. Yeah, you did see this
Speaker 4: on film.
Speaker 2: You just bought up something that is and we all
Speaker 2: see with DBS. You threw your hands up, hoping he
Speaker 2: didn't catch the ball. After he did not catch that ball,
Speaker 2: what'd you do?
Speaker 7: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: He had you, he had your way, He dropped it.
Speaker 4: On his on the cord, and you hit him with
Speaker 4: the time. No, So you had to understand my body
Speaker 4: presence locked him up. My body presence in itself disrupted
Speaker 4: to play. See that's the thing you gather them body presence, yes,
Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, a quarterback, if
Speaker 4: you put your body within hand or whatever it may be, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it has to be a perfect throw.
Speaker 1: That's the difference that the receiver just dropped the ball.
Speaker 2: That happens all the time though, that's a very common
Speaker 2: thing with DB's. There will be three four yards in
Speaker 2: front of him that dB is nothing and he gets overthrown.
Speaker 4: It's hard to be a dB bro like you gotta be.
Speaker 4: You gotta celebrate this. You know, the slight wins, all
Speaker 4: the ones you can get. You take it everything you
Speaker 4: can get, broge.
Speaker 1: Of their moments.
Speaker 3: What's your your thought is do the oh incomplete pass
Speaker 3: like ours, whether the quarterback just misses and you're in
Speaker 3: your beat or anything like that, like, oh quebeckscarn't even
Speaker 3: put it around me.
Speaker 1: That's real, bro, It's hard. It's hard to be as hard.
Speaker 2: I would think that is so funny watching because I
Speaker 2: obviously never covered nobody and I was thinking, Yo, you
Speaker 2: guys got burnt.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Random Duce just doing that? Hey man,
Speaker 1: I thought that was hilarious. Ring is hard, bro, No,
Speaker 1: it is, Honestly, I think it. Ring is fucking hard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will argus the heart this thing in football.
Speaker 2: Besides playing left tackle, I would say, yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know, bro, being a being a cornerback is
Speaker 3: the hardest position physically NFL.
Speaker 1: For sure. What's the second quarterback? I was about to say,
Speaker 1: playing quarterback the hardest.
Speaker 3: We're talking if we're talking everything all around, like outside
Speaker 3: of physical and everything. I had that mental then I
Speaker 3: would say quarterback, yeah, for sure, but strictly like physical,
Speaker 3: like like you're living in a back pedal and reacting
Speaker 3: to a receiver.
Speaker 1: Because I think even even in the sport of football.
Speaker 2: Tackles, you are living in a back pedal and reacting
Speaker 2: to a ninety You know you're not you're passing.
Speaker 1: I get it. You played punt, brother, got a punt
Speaker 1: set kick slides.
Speaker 3: Now it ain't hard, you know, posting protect my insects.
Speaker 3: You're protected by the guard.
Speaker 1: Hey, what is Who's Who's off? Put up in the
Speaker 1: punt showing about putting the arm up.
Speaker 7: Me the drag hand.
Speaker 1: The drag hand was funny because he sends me some
Speaker 1: stuff every now. But anyway, like I'm saying, you gotta
Speaker 1: go backwards, du dude, do ways as which is me,
Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not saying it's not hard. It's hard.
Speaker 1: Saying it's not hard, it'd be a lot of.
Speaker 4: Times like you said, where the same thing you say
Speaker 4: that dB, will you know mess up or you know,
Speaker 4: God dropped ball, quarterback overthrow the balls saying that with
Speaker 4: tackles like quarterback scrambles out throws the ball.
Speaker 1: Aways, get beat all the time? Yeah, God beat all
Speaker 1: the time. Don't see me fucking yeah, you don't see nothing.
Speaker 2: No reality though, Like my personality is much different other
Speaker 2: OFFENSI like, oh I blocked this motherfucker and you would
Speaker 2: look ridiculous.
Speaker 4: Got them And that's something like you don't even like
Speaker 4: and corners on your left hap of I ain't say
Speaker 4: you wouldn't want them like that, but like if you,
Speaker 4: let's say, for exam, you beat a pass rusher, you
Speaker 4: don't you want to tease the guy because then you
Speaker 4: know as soon as he lines up next time, you
Speaker 4: might eat you for lunch.
Speaker 1: No, there's a there's a double edged sword with that.
Speaker 1: For sure. You're playing.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 4: I've seen that really is like like Trent Williams, for example,
Speaker 4: that's a guy that's like you just don't mess with,
Speaker 4: like this guy's gonna talk ship and it's like there's
Speaker 4: gonna be nothing that you can literally do. I never
Speaker 4: forget we played the forty nine Ers in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: one and him and Jeff is getting to him the
Speaker 4: first drive, you know, Jeff talks and ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they get into in the first drive.
Speaker 4: Because usually I'm like, I'm like Jeff bodyguarl like, hey, bro,
Speaker 4: come on, chill, like we're gonna get you gonna get
Speaker 4: a penalty, come on, like cutting out, you know, you're
Speaker 4: saying all type of crazy stuff, like bro, you're a
Speaker 4: lotkle You're a little too old this now, Like you
Speaker 4: gotta respect the around the league a little bit. But
Speaker 4: him and Trup whims getting back to and tru Wi saying,
Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, you got that.
Speaker 1: Ship, you got it.
Speaker 4: I'm not y'all whatever y'all got going on, that's between y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm not getting between that, bro. Yeah, that's on you though,
Speaker 4: like I penalty, it don't matter, like I'm not getting
Speaker 4: between it. Really is him now, he is for sure,
Speaker 4: he might be the best player in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Arguably. He's up there. Sure, I mean he I mean,
Speaker 1: how is he now like thirty five or something like that.
Speaker 1: I think, is he as old as you or is
Speaker 1: he older than you? He's older than me?
Speaker 3: He like he's he's uh, he's the class with the
Speaker 3: sue Sam Bradford.
Speaker 1: But the guy's like crazy athletic, crazy athletic thirty four.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's what I'm saying, Bro, he's the truth.
Speaker 2: Dude will tell us a story about him and Rack
Speaker 2: And they were sitting at like the lunch table, and
Speaker 2: Trent was legit like I'm just trying to find out
Speaker 2: when it's gonna get hard for me, like in front
Speaker 2: of Brian A Rackpos's face, and that's just crazy.
Speaker 1: But it was more of a conversation of just like
Speaker 1: it was even real.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a shot at Rack or anything like that,
Speaker 3: because I want to say, like logan pulse and he
Speaker 3: was a tight end. Him and I were talking about something,
Speaker 3: bitching about something, our bodies feeling the type of way,
Speaker 3: and I remember Trent sitting there and be like, man,
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if there'll be any anybody that ever
Speaker 3: walks through that door that challenges me in practice.
Speaker 7: Now, nuts, that's different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have been like what you mean, Like,
Speaker 4: what do you mean, bro like or I either say
Speaker 4: that or I think Rack just laughed.
Speaker 2: I mean they had one on ones like, but that has.
Speaker 4: To make you feel a certain type of way though, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I love right rec my god, but it has to
Speaker 4: be like you shrink down a little bit within side,
Speaker 4: like damn, well, I feel like I'm him Nick.
Speaker 1: But why thinking about it?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: Because Rack was there with Logan and I and we
Speaker 3: were talking about it and talking about like just bodies
Speaker 3: being banged up after practice type of situation. And then
Speaker 3: Trent said that I believe in a way of he
Speaker 3: doesn't ever really get.
Speaker 1: Sore tired.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, ultimately it was I'm wonder if
Speaker 3: somebody it was it was put me in a situation
Speaker 3: and where I'm like, you know, banged up after practice.
Speaker 2: But imagine being so good that once you say it,
Speaker 2: the guy that would be most offensive just laughs because
Speaker 2: he just knows it's kind of true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And Rocks a baller. Rock was a baller. I
Speaker 1: mean he was commercial commercial Getico the Guy co commercial.
Speaker 1: Rack was in a guy commercial, like when Rac was.
Speaker 3: All prone Washington. He was like a stud when he
Speaker 3: came out. He was like he was, but I want
Speaker 3: to say he was like all pro either in his
Speaker 3: first couple of years. But yeah, he was on one
Speaker 3: of those commercials.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Man, you're a Guyico commercial.
Speaker 2: It's even funnier seeming a cupcake commercial him and him
Speaker 2: and griff it made.
Speaker 1: It's such a funny bit to me. And they had
Speaker 1: show over it right the cupcakes. Yeah they got they
Speaker 1: got the branded the cupcake guys with something like that.
Speaker 1: That's so fairn Let's just let.
Speaker 4: You know about like how depending what market you are in,
Speaker 4: Trey Williams has been that guy. He's been that dog.
Speaker 4: But then he's with the forty nine ers in a
Speaker 4: different market with a different fan base. Now he's already
Speaker 4: be the best player in the NFL. He's probably been
Speaker 4: the same person he's been in Washington he is now.
Speaker 4: But it's just the odds that's on him now. He
Speaker 4: just makes it the biggest difference. He was so good,
Speaker 4: he's I mean, he took a people ra he was
Speaker 4: in a couple of these things.
Speaker 1: It's wearing a shirt that says a rockboll I.
Speaker 7: Think I remember this too.
Speaker 1: How old is this was? The man? This is probably
Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen, maybe in twelve yel.
Speaker 2: Freshman year and Ra looks like a fucking outside linebacker
Speaker 2: if you're painting up like you see the under armor
Speaker 2: statues when you walk into Dick's. If you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: make me one of those that looks like I was
Speaker 2: a linebacker?
Speaker 1: Rack is that man? For sure? He was just built
Speaker 1: like that, dude?
Speaker 7: Happened to good commercials?
Speaker 2: Like the Cave Made commercials for fire those were always
Speaker 2: so good, Like the super.
Speaker 7: Bowl commercial aren't as good as they used to be.
Speaker 1: What do you think?
Speaker 2: They're creative but they're not as good? Like like wise,
Speaker 2: there's old commercials commercials.
Speaker 7: I'm like, bro, what happened to great commercials?
Speaker 3: But we're al was gonna say about trade is people
Speaker 3: forget he took an entire year off and that never
Speaker 3: works out for anybody.
Speaker 1: What's up? It never works out for anybody. We talked
Speaker 1: about Levon.
Speaker 3: Bell, Missus money all that took an entire year off
Speaker 3: and came back and he's still turned it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like got become a better version of Williams. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't like you said that lay beyond Bill deal, like,
Speaker 4: because I've seen something about Saquon was kind of putting
Speaker 4: it out there that's possible.
Speaker 1: That's how we got in the conversation the other day about.
Speaker 7: It usually never works.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what I'm saying, Trip Williams unicorn, like
Speaker 4: take that bread if you got to.
Speaker 3: Especially, but different positions too, Like there's a lot more
Speaker 3: longevity with an offensive lineman than with the running back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's running backs.
Speaker 3: It doesn't usually And again when we talk about like
Speaker 3: unicorns at the running back position, and there's many more
Speaker 3: out there, but just local recent all that stuff, like
Speaker 3: not everybody said Derek kenri either to where you get
Speaker 3: better in the second contract.
Speaker 1: That bet, Yeah, I mean Derek is.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's funny because there's been the guy he
Speaker 4: is in the league that he's been like his whole life.
Speaker 4: He's always been a volume guy. But like you said,
Speaker 4: I mean, if you just watch the way Derek take
Speaker 4: care of his body, like, you will see why he's
Speaker 4: able to last the way he's able to last. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying that other guys don't take care of their body, right,
Speaker 4: but just the way he's built. And I've had conversations
Speaker 4: with a lot of guys like and this is not
Speaker 4: a slight to him, because obviously Derek is. I think
Speaker 4: he's a future Hall of Famer my opinion. Yeah, But
Speaker 4: and the way he plays the game, he's a dinosaur.
Speaker 4: And I say, it's not saying hiss dinosaurs. He's old.
Speaker 4: It's just like they don't make guys like him, no more,
Speaker 4: like a guy that's two forty five six threes are
Speaker 4: probably bigger than all our pass us on our team,
Speaker 4: but they just don't. You don't have guys that because
Speaker 4: you see nowadays everybody's like a running back by committee.
Speaker 1: Running back by committee, like.
Speaker 4: He's been our offense for ever since, been a full
Speaker 4: time starter, been the main engine of our offense. Like,
Speaker 4: they don't really build guys like that, no more. Like
Speaker 4: I don't think they will ever be. I mean that's
Speaker 4: just me personally. I don't think it will ever be
Speaker 4: another running back like Derrick Henry going forward in the
Speaker 4: league because I just think that even on the on
Speaker 4: a younger level like high school and youth sports, like
Speaker 4: probably running backs are seeing what's going on with the
Speaker 4: market and everything. They probably like Bro, I don't want
Speaker 4: to play running back. I like to touch the ball,
Speaker 4: but maybe I might even go play dB or something
Speaker 4: like that. Liked short or small and might want to
Speaker 4: go play dB, or might the receiver or might play
Speaker 4: something else that has the longevity or because you know
Speaker 4: what's going on. The running back market is real, man,
Speaker 4: Like it's a staring time. My child is playing sports
Speaker 4: is like, yeah, so we're gonna you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: We're gonna to start playing soccer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pop Warner. But then you gotta had a new position. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you got a new positions.
Speaker 1: But you are like, uh, just on the team side.
Speaker 3: You also understand because you can get guys, you can
Speaker 3: have a running back by committee and have it cheaper.
Speaker 4: No, I mean that's the whole business ode of Like
Speaker 4: I understand it now being an older player, Like yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I get it, trust me, I get it.
Speaker 4: Like if you can like you know, and Bray was
Speaker 4: a realist, like you have conversations, Brady, we keep it real,
Speaker 4: like you know, hey, you can have like for example,
Speaker 4: when even I remember when twenty twenty one when Derek
Speaker 4: got hurt, Derek played I think ten games at nine
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty seven rushing yards, ten touchdowns. I've seen
Speaker 4: a stat the second half of the year when dere
Speaker 4: wasn't playing, we still had nine hundred and thirty seven
Speaker 4: or nine hundred some rushing yards as a team together.
Speaker 3: So if you it took guys like two or three
Speaker 3: games to even get up to that volume and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, Johnny, I'm just talking all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, Jonathan Taylor is an MVP candidate.
Speaker 4: But I'm just talking about from because I think who
Speaker 4: we had, we had form, We had form on the Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're but you're looking at from a team perspective, it
Speaker 4: is like them, Darren him was putting up these numbers,
Speaker 4: but then we had two guys that put up the
Speaker 4: same equal.
Speaker 7: Amount of numbers in the same amount of games.
Speaker 4: So it's like, but obviously they weren't making what there's making, right,
Speaker 4: So if you're looking at from a business side of it,
Speaker 4: you know, I understand it. But obviously Derek is a
Speaker 4: different type of guy. I mean obviously because I think
Speaker 4: that obviously the stats you you you kind of put
Speaker 4: all that numbers in, but at the same time you
Speaker 4: had to look at the person, the player, the celebrity
Speaker 4: and who he is, and you know that's how you
Speaker 4: get his worth and when he's worth to this team
Speaker 4: and his organization in the city.
Speaker 2: So man, the minute, the minute, Derek's no longer a tighten.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a big hit from a business standpoint,
Speaker 2: for the for the marketing of this fresh shirt. I
Speaker 2: mean this twenty twenty one. I think it was even
Speaker 2: less than ten games that he played, because I remember
Speaker 2: he was at nine thirty seven, because it was he
Speaker 2: was in that thirty seven and it's five weeks.
Speaker 1: Do you like him to even get out of the
Speaker 1: top five? This was like at like five, Yes, it
Speaker 1: was nuts. And then you're right, Taylor was an MVP.
Speaker 7: He was like he was a two thousand again easy.
Speaker 1: He I thought he was gonna beat the record. He
Speaker 1: was on the pace to destroy the record that year
Speaker 1: if there would have got two thousand yards and back to.
Speaker 4: Back years, he was a canceled Christmas put him in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame right now, Yes, I think there.
Speaker 1: I think he's a Hall of Famer right now.
Speaker 4: I mean I think so too, But I think that
Speaker 4: he literally didn't have to play another down of football.
Speaker 1: He's automatically a Hall of Fame, real talk. I mean
Speaker 1: it's one of yards back to back, Yeah, Bro, No,
Speaker 1: that would have been insane. Did you see how many
Speaker 1: games he played in twenty twenty one? You had to
Speaker 1: be like, I think it might have been even when
Speaker 1: you're still playing only sixteen games. Game when he broke
Speaker 1: his foot, yeah it was a coach game, still played too,
Speaker 1: broke his foot still playing? What was crazy that year?
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people talk about.
Speaker 7: I know what was going on?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, I just remember him. I remember that.
Speaker 1: I remember the play and he took a shoe off.
Speaker 1: I was like, what's wrong, it's like my foot? My
Speaker 1: fuck there? Because he was.
Speaker 7: Playing, I'm coming.
Speaker 1: I thought he was. He said, bro messed up my foot?
Speaker 1: Like he played in eight games that year?
Speaker 7: Eight games.
Speaker 3: And again, what I was trying to say that not
Speaker 3: a lot of people talk about was, Uh, I had
Speaker 3: Derek Henry and Jonathan Taylor on my fantasy team.
Speaker 1: A lot of people talk about, how'd you get with
Speaker 1: him both them? People?
Speaker 3: Uh, since Jonathan Taylor was coming off of his rookie year,
Speaker 3: I believe he just wasn't somebody who was uh picked
Speaker 3: up in the first round.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I never played fantasy football. I think it's fun to
Speaker 4: play group. It's fucking understand like how it works.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'll try to get in a defensive player one
Speaker 2: so I can pick you and then like I'll be
Speaker 2: I'll be the one on the internet like either.
Speaker 7: Yelling at you or you can only pick like an
Speaker 7: entire defense.
Speaker 1: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: You can play like it's called like IDP individual defensive
Speaker 3: player to where you based off like tackles, pick sack
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had no clue. Fantasy football is a good
Speaker 2: time now. I managed a couple of teams. Real, yeah,
Speaker 2: you mad?
Speaker 1: How'd you fair? How'd you fair? I won this last year?
Speaker 1: Did you really one? Yes? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Two years ago? Football League Championship. Two years ago I
Speaker 3: had the most points. Ended up losing in the championship,
Speaker 3: which really pissed me off. But I got my You
Speaker 3: still lost that were years ago? Well, because you get
Speaker 3: into the playoffs. You get you get into the playoffs
Speaker 3: and then you know it's do or die, it's win
Speaker 3: or go home. And we ended up losing.
Speaker 5: I had.
Speaker 3: I had a couple of guys go down late in
Speaker 3: the year, or they might not have played because they
Speaker 3: were going to play in the playoffs in real life.
Speaker 1: Uh, And so I took a lump and ended up
Speaker 1: losing the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: But see, see that's where I think that you know,
Speaker 4: when you obviously being a football player and then you
Speaker 4: have certain fans that some people are like really fans
Speaker 4: of the game. They love the game, they love watching
Speaker 4: the game, love come out to the games. But do
Speaker 4: you have your fantasy football fans like really only care
Speaker 4: about their fantasy team and it kind of pisses you off,
Speaker 4: like oh, like we just need him get over a
Speaker 4: hundred rush of yards or something like that is like, bro,
Speaker 4: it's not the way the game went. That's why where
Speaker 4: our game works. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 4: just like, hey, I feel you. I think like I
Speaker 4: think I think like it's like the whole thing with
Speaker 4: like the gambling stuff, like where I think it was
Speaker 4: something where some basketball player in college is like that
Speaker 4: got like crucified, like they was talking crazy on social
Speaker 4: media because I think they were losing or something like that,
Speaker 4: and like the guy like pulled her for three and
Speaker 4: messed up like the spread or something like that the
Speaker 4: shot and people were pissed. Yeah, like almost like righting
Speaker 4: him like messed up my spread. Like you know, God's
Speaker 4: be having these ten play part parlays and stuff like
Speaker 4: that messed up the parlay.
Speaker 1: Yes, and lives for it. Will lives for a parlay.
Speaker 1: I live for a good parlay man fifty k.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's that's probably how most of these and just
Speaker 4: make their money. For God's bet, these.
Speaker 1: Parlays put them out there.
Speaker 7: Bro, it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Hey, you'll know and Will's deep into it when halfway
Speaker 2: through the season next year will be getting text Hey,
Speaker 2: so and so playing Hey, what's the deal? What's the
Speaker 2: game plan with this? This text you to call like
Speaker 2: sort of gambling is anonymous, you know. I put an
Speaker 2: effort like voice text so that way it can be
Speaker 2: uh can't be traced, no names. I try to do
Speaker 2: my I try to do my due diligence for the week. Hey,
Speaker 2: you're not a side of it. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: You try to play, Yeah, you try and play. I
Speaker 1: was trying to live in both worlds. It didn't work out.
Speaker 3: But it's always funny because I'm more into the side
Speaker 3: of like the fantasy football and obviously bantering on social
Speaker 3: media and everything like that, so I always enjoy the
Speaker 3: memes and the stuff that comes from when the.
Speaker 1: Spread doesn't hit or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, listening to the players still like feel You still
Speaker 3: see that they that they feel the type of way
Speaker 3: like when they get when they get chirped on the
Speaker 3: internet crazy.
Speaker 7: I think, in my mind, how you doing, man? You
Speaker 7: lost a lot of weight, bro, look good.
Speaker 1: Noah, I appreciate you. I'm good. Dude. We've been we've
Speaker 1: been traveling like crazy, so I've been like, how much
Speaker 1: way have you lost though. Fans want to know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I don't know if I want
Speaker 1: to tell the fans. Yeah you want to know? Morning
Speaker 1: this morning, Yeah, this morning, I woke up.
Speaker 2: I was two hundred fifty nine pounds, so I've lost
Speaker 2: fifty eight pounds. Fifty nine pounds. Wow, Yeah we're moving, dud.
Speaker 7: You know what's going on around? Was going around right now?
Speaker 1: What is like?
Speaker 7: People are saying, like, bro, you can come back like
Speaker 7: tight end.
Speaker 1: I did I not call you? I call it like
Speaker 1: first phone call, one of your first phone calls after
Speaker 1: right after I think it was right after I cut.
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, what if I come back and
Speaker 1: play tight end? Or you could be like Mercedes Lewis Brock,
Speaker 1: that could be something it's worth thinking about.
Speaker 2: And it's not off the table playing off the line,
Speaker 2: but playing tight end would be sick.
Speaker 1: I think that would be fucking awesome.
Speaker 4: But because like Mercedes Lewis literally was in Green Bay
Speaker 4: play like three years and literally was like the extra
Speaker 4: office alignment and literally wasn't elite blocker, Like I remember
Speaker 4: going to against him and like put his hands on
Speaker 4: mean I couldn't Like, I'm like, it might be the
Speaker 4: strongest guy, like.
Speaker 1: A Luke Stalker. Yeah, Luke stocks like that. Here's the
Speaker 1: issue with that. I'll play your y. You try to
Speaker 1: put me in an F on the I formation, you
Speaker 1: can go. We're not doing that. But what we might
Speaker 1: do is put you on a little elite play block release. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in.
Speaker 2: I'm all about that. To get in the backfield, play
Speaker 2: the F he got like Dante high terror. You need
Speaker 2: to come downhill on an ISO play buddy. I'm good,
Speaker 2: I'm all set. I've been a tough guy.
Speaker 1: I'm set on that.
Speaker 2: Let me play the why let me cross sift, let
Speaker 2: me let me take some out. He's some unsuspecting rookie
Speaker 2: defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's a little doubles, Yeah you know, oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: little people hock, a little triple, a little tray block.
Speaker 2: You want me to hit the hip of a guy
Speaker 2: and get up to a linebacker, I got you. If
Speaker 2: you want me to run from me to JP to
Speaker 2: hit somebody face to face, I'm solid.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut him. I'm gonna cut him.
Speaker 2: I got a little neck thing anyway. When I look
Speaker 2: back to the left, I got a little something. I
Speaker 2: can't be doing that ship.
Speaker 3: What do you think about the label of rebuilding for
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans. Oh, as somebody who's been you know,
Speaker 3: obviously you've been with the boys now for seven years.
Speaker 3: We all understand the culture of Rabel and what goes
Speaker 3: on inside those walls. Like on the outside it seems
Speaker 3: like it's a full lawn rebuilding year or the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 3: It's somebody who's played for a long time. And you know, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: I bad. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a rebuild at all. I just
Speaker 4: think that certain things had to happen as far as
Speaker 4: certain cuts that we had to make just this off season.
Speaker 4: And you know, it's funny, and I ain't trying to
Speaker 4: pivot off your top but or off your question, but
Speaker 4: looking at the whole Robinson deal and and I feel
Speaker 4: like it's not really talked about enough. But like obviously
Speaker 4: he's got her drafted me And I defended him like
Speaker 4: a mug because back in twenty nineteen went to the
Speaker 4: Answer Championship game, leaven that game.
Speaker 7: Obviously there was a hell of a run.
Speaker 4: Leaving at that game and leaving that offseason, I felt
Speaker 4: like he said, and I feel like most people probably
Speaker 4: have the same sentiment. It's like, we have to get
Speaker 4: a consistent pass rush. Think about it, we'd had a
Speaker 4: really great pass rush. Think about the pastors we had
Speaker 4: maybe in twenty twenty one that we had then was
Speaker 4: able to you know, my homes was out there running
Speaker 4: around doing all types of crazy stuff, throwing this right
Speaker 4: before halftime.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what it was like.
Speaker 4: Okay, if we just had because guys were hurt and
Speaker 4: Jess Simmons was still coming to his own. We still
Speaker 4: had Jirell, but we had in tiar guys, but we
Speaker 4: just didn't have the outside guys. So twenty twenty Tom
Speaker 4: vic Beasley obviously that was a miss. We signed Clowny,
Speaker 4: that was a miss. But I feel like he tried
Speaker 4: his best to try to He probably seeing in his
Speaker 4: mind like I had the green light to probably build
Speaker 4: the best team I possibly could bid because our window
Speaker 4: is now, I gotta try to win now. And I
Speaker 4: feel like from their twenty twenty obviously he had some missus,
Speaker 4: but then he signed Budd and he kept trying to
Speaker 4: bring in more pieces. Traded for Julio and I think
Speaker 4: that's fire restructure because we got for Julio whatever, but
Speaker 4: uh got Julio. And then twenty twenty one, you know,
Speaker 4: it happened away, it happened, we didn't win, and then
Speaker 4: you see John and the Combines about to tear upcause
Speaker 4: they asked them about whatever, because that year we would
Speaker 4: want a super Bowl, like a one hundred percent believe
Speaker 4: we didn't want to super Bowl.
Speaker 7: We had destroyed the Chiefs at home.
Speaker 4: We'd had the Chiefs at home that year, and then
Speaker 4: we was gonna have obviously played the Rams in the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, which we destroyed.
Speaker 7: The Rams. Was Sunday night football.
Speaker 3: That was that.
Speaker 1: That was it.
Speaker 4: And uh but yeah, just going back and then obviously,
Speaker 4: you know this year John gets you know, gets fired
Speaker 4: or whatever, because I think that from all the free
Speaker 4: agent signs that he made, some worked out, some of
Speaker 4: them didn't. And then a couple of the draft class
Speaker 4: where the injuries and things like that, so eventually, you know,
Speaker 4: we and this you know, he got fired at the
Speaker 4: Eagles game because honestly, been on the sideline at the
Speaker 4: Eagles game, it kind of felt like, man, all the injury,
Speaker 4: it kind of felt hopeless a little not hopeless, but
Speaker 4: it was like we was literally on the sideline like
Speaker 4: all the we had and I'm looking at the Eagles
Speaker 4: and I'm like, bro, they got some elite talent.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: And it kind of felt like at a point, probably
Speaker 4: in the third quarters, like bro, like this is probably
Speaker 4: one of the only times I probably played in the
Speaker 4: game in the NFL where I was like this, like
Speaker 4: I don't think we can really compete with this team
Speaker 4: right now. Yeah, I'm just keeping it one hund. I
Speaker 4: feel like, Bro, we're getting out match right now, and
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't even think it was like we
Speaker 4: was getting off coach. That's any coach gonna say, we
Speaker 4: got our coach, we got all played, all that good stuff,
Speaker 4: but it was really like, damn, like getting I asked, well,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like it really felt like that.
Speaker 4: And then obviously John got fired. But I always defend
Speaker 4: him because I feel like he tried to do what
Speaker 4: he could to try to, you know, go win the
Speaker 4: Super Bowl right now. And so, like you said, we
Speaker 4: talked about a new gym coming in and he's looking
Speaker 4: at the balance, she's looking at it like he had to.
Speaker 1: Make certain moves.
Speaker 4: But I also feel like he obviously made other moves
Speaker 4: where he brought us some other officer linemen, Uh Shazier
Speaker 4: linebackgy some before. I think he's gonna be really good
Speaker 4: player for us. UH brought in Shaunma Murphy Button as
Speaker 4: a corner. I think he's gonna be a really good
Speaker 4: player for us too. So I know, from the outside,
Speaker 4: it looks like, oh, we let go of all these
Speaker 4: guys and we didn't bring in some other big name
Speaker 4: players that you know, obviously everybody wants to bring because
Speaker 4: that's that's what fans look at it, look at big
Speaker 4: name guys. We we ain't sign nobody big. We didn't
Speaker 4: do anything to help out, But we all know what
Speaker 4: Rable was about. Bro, Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: I just felt like Verbel in his mindset. Obviously Vrabel
Speaker 4: was a guy that wasn't you know. Obviously he was
Speaker 4: an All American in the House, State and everything, but
Speaker 4: you look at his career path and just how you
Speaker 4: always had to grind it out, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: He was one of the boys and one of the
Speaker 4: guys in New England. But they had a lot of
Speaker 4: great players in that team too, and he was always
Speaker 4: just that grinder. And I think that the type of
Speaker 4: culture that we have on the team. We talk about
Speaker 4: all time, like it don't really matter when you got drafted,
Speaker 4: how high, how much money you make, and all this
Speaker 4: other stuff. It's all about what you do when you
Speaker 4: get here and just being around there for the you know,
Speaker 4: the three days in mini camp, bro like, it was
Speaker 4: very very competitive. You know what I'm saying, That's the
Speaker 4: type of quote that you want. And honestly, personally, I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say I prefer, but I like to go in
Speaker 4: the year with everybody doubting this to be like, oh,
Speaker 4: y'all just gonna suck this shit, because it was like
Speaker 4: that for the longest us being on team. What what
Speaker 4: we always do, We always very recent were achieved exactly
Speaker 4: always overachieved, and we kind of always, uh, I don't
Speaker 4: want to say live the expectations of expectation that we
Speaker 4: was gonna suck, but we obviously always over overachieved. So
Speaker 4: I kind of feel that building up as far as
Speaker 4: just the mentality team, the culture of the team is
Speaker 4: that you know, we're obviously going to be underdogs. Nobody's
Speaker 4: wishing us and you know, saying we're gonna win this.
Speaker 4: I remember twenty nineteen the year we went to the
Speaker 4: SCUY Championship game. Who was the offseason darlings. It was
Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns. Everybody was like, Bro, Cleveland Brown's people
Speaker 4: to win, to suw better going to the super Bowl
Speaker 4: first game of the year, we destroyed them.
Speaker 7: So I just think that it's the mentality of our team.
Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter when guys get drafted how they
Speaker 4: got on a team that if it's undrafted, whether we
Speaker 4: sign them during it.
Speaker 1: Don't matter when we signed them. Like, it's all about
Speaker 1: what you do when you get here.
Speaker 4: And I think that guys like myself, Derek Jeff, just
Speaker 4: the culture of the guys that we have the best
Speaker 4: players practice the hardest, we work the hardest, we put
Speaker 4: in the most time. Everybody buys into that. So I
Speaker 4: don't think it matters about because we all know, Bro,
Speaker 4: if you're an NFL you're talented. We're all talented, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Like some guys don't have the name.
Speaker 4: I was a guy who didn't have no name. I
Speaker 4: was a third round pick for Midletonnessee State and look
Speaker 4: where I am now. Like, it's not about what you
Speaker 4: what you did before you was here. It's all about
Speaker 4: what you do when you get here and why you're here.
Speaker 4: So I'm confident this year, honestly, bro like and at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, I put it on my
Speaker 4: shoulders too, like, like we're gonna be good this year.
Speaker 4: I had to play well. Yeah, the best players have
Speaker 4: to play well for us to be great. That's just
Speaker 4: the bottom line.
Speaker 1: So real talk.
Speaker 7: But it's just real though, like this gotta play well.
Speaker 4: Like any year that we was really good, all our
Speaker 4: best players play great, and so you can't expect to
Speaker 4: be good and our best players don't play well. So
Speaker 4: for myself, for Derek and Jeff, we all have lofty
Speaker 4: goals personally, but as a team. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: we have to carry this team because this team is
Speaker 4: gonna go anywhere without its leaders.
Speaker 7: So that's my mentality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we appreciate you coming on. It's been working over
Speaker 1: two hours. Yeah, and it's flown by too by. It's
Speaker 1: been a hell of a pod. We'll have to get
Speaker 1: you back on again for sure. In the middle of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 4: Or when I first got on here about it took
Speaker 4: y'all so long to bring me back on here. I
Speaker 4: felt a little way about it Oh, hang on, we
Speaker 4: can talk to us, We can talk to you.
Speaker 1: It sounds like communication was like I didn't know you
Speaker 1: wanted to come on.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm not talking about just as Austin.
Speaker 4: I'm talking out over the years, Okay, been a while. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you know it was on the first.
Speaker 7: Couple of pots, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some guys had double backed.
Speaker 7: Yeah, some guys have double backed.
Speaker 1: Recurring, the recurring, recurring guys.
Speaker 7: And I was just waiting for you guys that you know,
Speaker 7: I was waiting for that call.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: It is like now when first team All Pro, you
Speaker 1: guys didn't call me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we didn't want to think. We didn't want
Speaker 2: you to think we were just asking because all of
Speaker 2: a sudden you made first team on Pro. I feel
Speaker 2: we're all about being friends here and I did. And
Speaker 2: if you want to know about you know, calling, I
Speaker 2: did calling March. We talked about how I called the
Speaker 2: March and you did, and he said, I'll get back
Speaker 2: to you. I'll get back to you. And here we are.
Speaker 1: So it was the spicy you know what I was
Speaker 1: going on. That's true. I feel you're one of the ogs.
Speaker 3: And it's been a minute, it's been put in the
Speaker 3: effort to get you back on the bus, so I can.
Speaker 3: I can respect you.
Speaker 4: You want to bitter or salty because I'm really I'm
Speaker 4: really just teasing this guys business.
Speaker 1: I understand you. You're checking us right now. We Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just had to let that be known.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't have felt, you know, leaving the pot, wouldn't
Speaker 4: feel good with myself.
Speaker 1: I just didn't put that out there in the air.
Speaker 1: That's fair.
Speaker 7: Yeah, one of the original boys.
Speaker 4: You know you are.
Speaker 1: There's no question I got on the pod. Y'all went
Speaker 1: this way. It wasn't quite the escent. We'll get you
Speaker 1: back on, dude. You can come on whenever you want.
Speaker 3: We appreciate all this, seeing this conversation and everything like
Speaker 3: this was this was a good time.
Speaker 1: I was dope, man. Appreciate you boys, man,