WEBVTT - Who Protects the Children? 0:00:04.980 --> 0:00:05.210 Thank you. 0:00:28.560 --> 0:00:32.440 Are you open to pursuing impeachment of President Trump or 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:33.620 are you ruling that out? 0:00:33.880 --> 0:00:36.339 Well, we've made clear we haven't ruled anything in and 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:37.800 we haven't ruled anything out. 0:00:38.180 --> 0:00:41.409 I am not a socialist. I guess you can say 0:00:41.450 --> 0:00:45.209 that I'm more of a social democrat, so to speak. 0:00:45.229 --> 0:00:48.390 You think that's okay? I mean, do you really want 0:00:48.409 --> 0:00:51.190 to have this conversation? Are you circumcised? Yeah, yeah. 0:00:51.290 --> 0:00:53.840 Is circumcision different than castration? 0:00:57.060 --> 0:00:59.460 And so is the countdown. 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:04.920 T-minus 70 days till Election Day. 0:01:04.940 --> 0:01:11.850 Yeah, we're coming to your city. Gonna play our guitars 0:01:11.930 --> 0:01:13.990 and sing you a country song. 0:01:14.190 --> 0:01:15.350 Sean Hannity. 0:01:15.390 --> 0:01:20.550 The new Sean Hannity Show. More behind-the-scenes information on breaking 0:01:20.590 --> 0:01:27.179 news and more bold, inspired solutions for America. Coming up next, 0:01:27.260 --> 0:01:31.120 our final news roundup and information overload hour. 0:01:31.140 --> 0:01:34.429 All right, news roundup, information overload hour. Our toll-free number 0:01:34.470 --> 0:01:37.710 and your calls are coming up, 800-941-SHAWN, if you want 0:01:37.750 --> 0:01:40.130 to be a part of the program. So I started 0:01:40.170 --> 0:01:44.750 reading about this case, and there's a group in Massachusetts, 0:01:45.090 --> 0:01:47.690 and they put it up on their website, how this 0:01:47.750 --> 0:01:52.400 past May, this group filed a Title IX complaint on 0:01:52.420 --> 0:01:55.790 behalf of Lewis and Kerry Rivera. And now they're the 0:01:55.830 --> 0:01:58.750 parents of a nine year old little girl in third 0:01:58.810 --> 0:02:05.230 grade at what's called Rochester Memorial School. Their complaint alleges 0:02:05.380 --> 0:02:08.840 this girl was using the bathroom when a male student 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:14.239 who identified as transgender entered the bathroom, saw there was 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:20.019 someone in her stall and opened the stall door while 0:02:20.220 --> 0:02:21.560 she was on the toilet. 0:02:22.040 --> 0:02:22.940 The girl was shocked. 0:02:23.380 --> 0:02:27.560 Obviously traumatized, a kid nine years old, a violation, obviously, 0:02:27.600 --> 0:02:32.269 of her privacy. This poor girl now, according to this article, 0:02:32.450 --> 0:02:36.330 and we'll hear from the parents in a second here, refuses, 0:02:36.710 --> 0:02:41.609 you know, and is scared to death to actually use 0:02:41.650 --> 0:02:44.710 the bathroom at school, even though the Rivera's, the parents 0:02:44.750 --> 0:02:48.350 had previously complained about this male student using the girl's bathroom. 0:02:48.790 --> 0:02:51.120 The school refused to take any steps to stop the 0:02:51.180 --> 0:02:54.860 incident from happening. and told the parents that just following 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.959 state law. Then the school conducted, quote, their investigation into 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:04.000 the complaint, and they issued a final decision. And anyway, 0:03:05.150 --> 0:03:08.950 you know, because they have to protect student privacy, they 0:03:09.010 --> 0:03:12.510 think that they have a right to make the public 0:03:12.669 --> 0:03:16.530 aware of what were their key findings. I know what 0:03:16.570 --> 0:03:18.070 they are, but I'm going to let them tell the 0:03:18.110 --> 0:03:21.480 story themselves. Anyway, joining us now is Sam Whiting. He's 0:03:21.500 --> 0:03:25.400 the legal counsel for the Massachusetts Liberty Legal Center and 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:30.500 Louis Rivera, a Rochester, Massachusetts father fighting for his nine-year-old daughter, 0:03:30.600 --> 0:03:33.280 a story we just told you about. Louis, thank you 0:03:33.300 --> 0:03:35.400 for being with us. Sorry your nine-year-old little girl had 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:37.930 to go through that. It is not a topic when 0:03:37.970 --> 0:03:39.880 I started my radio career I ever thought I'd be 0:03:39.930 --> 0:03:42.210 dealing with, but now we're dealing with this crap every day. 0:03:42.410 --> 0:03:44.610 Thank you, Sean. Thank you for having me on. 0:03:44.610 --> 0:03:47.190 All right, tell us the whole story and then tell 0:03:47.230 --> 0:03:48.430 us what the decision was. 0:03:48.950 --> 0:03:52.430 All right. So, uh, May 1st, uh, my daughter, uh, 0:03:52.510 --> 0:03:54.870 comes home from school in the afternoon, like she normally does. 0:03:54.970 --> 0:03:57.810 And she gets off the bus and she comes in and, 0:03:58.050 --> 0:04:00.830 and you can tell, uh, her eyes, she was distraught. 0:04:00.870 --> 0:04:03.990 Her eyes were red. She's been crying all day long. 0:04:04.110 --> 0:04:07.150 And I asked her what happened. And she told me 0:04:07.190 --> 0:04:11.970 she was, uh, using the bathroom at the school. And this, uh, 0:04:12.030 --> 0:04:16.109 boy that identifies as a girl came into the restroom, um, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.799 He proceeded to look under the stone. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.080 And this is somebody you knew about, complained about prior 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.260 to this incident, correct? 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:26.700 Yes. We called prior, a year before that, when the 0:04:26.750 --> 0:04:30.190 teachers tried to usher this boy with the girls on 0:04:30.230 --> 0:04:32.430 a field trip into a restroom when my daughter came 0:04:32.490 --> 0:04:35.650 running out. She told us when she got home, we 0:04:35.690 --> 0:04:38.630 addressed it with the school. The principal said that no 0:04:38.670 --> 0:04:41.830 boys are allowed in the girls' bathrooms, and she would investigate. 0:04:43.210 --> 0:04:45.130 A couple of months later, my daughter came home and said, 0:04:45.150 --> 0:04:46.910 this individual is running in and out of the girl's 0:04:46.990 --> 0:04:50.250 bathroom once again. So he proceeded to look under the 0:04:50.270 --> 0:04:53.109 stall and was asking who was in there, and he 0:04:53.130 --> 0:04:56.990 started peering through the cracks on her. She yelled at 0:04:57.010 --> 0:04:59.130 him to get away, and when she tried to get 0:04:59.190 --> 0:05:00.690 up to pull her pants up, he decided it was 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.940 okay to push the door open and expose her half-naked body, basically. 0:05:06.300 --> 0:05:08.900 She was traumatized and went back to her classroom. She 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.409 was crying. And she was like that all day long 0:05:12.430 --> 0:05:14.890 until she got home and she told me this. Wow. 0:05:15.570 --> 0:05:18.640 And moving forward, she's now afraid to go into the 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:19.580 bathroom at her school. 0:05:19.940 --> 0:05:23.260 At her school and in public. She's been traumatized with this. 0:05:23.300 --> 0:05:26.240 My wife has to escort her or I have to 0:05:26.300 --> 0:05:30.160 find a family restroom when we're in public. She doesn't 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:33.080 feel secure or safe in the restrooms right now. And 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.240 she's going through some major therapy and stuff behind it 0:05:36.300 --> 0:05:36.620 right now. 0:05:37.670 --> 0:05:40.229 All right, so in this document, we're going to talk 0:05:40.270 --> 0:05:42.970 to Sam in a minute because it's his legal group 0:05:43.010 --> 0:05:47.650 that is representing you. The school did investigate. The school 0:05:47.950 --> 0:05:52.580 came to a conclusion. They don't want you to make 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.279 this public, what you're about to tell us? 0:05:55.120 --> 0:06:00.659 Yes. Yeah, they just dismissed it like nothing really happened. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.420 They said that, yes, he did go in there, but 0:06:02.460 --> 0:06:04.260 there was no Title IX violation. 0:06:04.820 --> 0:06:04.990 Wow. 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:09.159 Sam, let's talk about this from your point of view, 0:06:09.300 --> 0:06:14.339 your involvement in this, and what remedy might Lewis and 0:06:14.380 --> 0:06:17.909 his wife have to protect their daughter moving forward. I mean, 0:06:17.930 --> 0:06:20.010 I don't think any nine-year-old girl should have to go 0:06:20.050 --> 0:06:20.470 through this. 0:06:21.430 --> 0:06:27.070 No, absolutely not. And unfortunately, schools across Massachusetts have policies 0:06:27.130 --> 0:06:30.920 like this where they say that to comply with state law, 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.010 they have to allow boys into the girls' bathrooms. if 0:06:34.050 --> 0:06:35.050 they identify as girls. 0:06:36.490 --> 0:06:37.910 Okay, but by the way, even if it was a 0:06:38.029 --> 0:06:42.690 girl that was looking underneath and opening the door of 0:06:42.750 --> 0:06:47.350 a stall to a bathroom, invading somebody's privacy, going to 0:06:47.370 --> 0:06:52.190 the bathroom, even that should never be allowed. I mean, 0:06:52.270 --> 0:06:54.790 can we just start with the basics here? Then you 0:06:54.850 --> 0:06:57.770 add the fact that he's a biological man, and I 0:06:58.950 --> 0:07:02.640 don't think the word peeping Tom, but you know, obviously 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:06.060 has some severe problems if he's going to, you know, 0:07:06.140 --> 0:07:11.180 treat somebody like this. And the school just absolutely condones it. 0:07:12.210 --> 0:07:16.630 They have no alarm bells are ringing in their head, nothing. 0:07:18.430 --> 0:07:21.960 Right. I mean, if this was another girl or if 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.600 it was a boy who didn't identify this way, you know, 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.700 I think the situation would have been dealt with much differently. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:34.670 And Listen, I mean, this child, it's a nine-year-old boy 0:07:34.710 --> 0:07:37.910 who's also in third grade, and we don't know what 0:07:38.230 --> 0:07:40.510 was going through his mind. And he's really not the 0:07:40.550 --> 0:07:43.630 focus of our complaint here. The focus is this school 0:07:43.690 --> 0:07:47.610 has put in place these policies that allow boys into 0:07:47.650 --> 0:07:52.810 the girls' bathroom, no questions asked. And that clearly has 0:07:53.090 --> 0:07:57.020 disastrous consequences for the privacy and dignity of girls. And 0:07:57.060 --> 0:07:59.170 so what we did is we kind of took two steps. 0:07:59.410 --> 0:08:02.130 One was to file a Title IX complaint with the 0:08:02.190 --> 0:08:04.710 school to have them investigate this matter. And that's what 0:08:04.750 --> 0:08:07.480 they did. And of course, they ended up finding, you know, 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.880 there was no Title IX violation. Everything was fine, which 0:08:10.940 --> 0:08:14.850 is ridiculous. But, you know, we kind of anticipated that 0:08:14.890 --> 0:08:17.740 was the direction that they would go. But we also 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.240 filed a complaint with the Federal Department of Education and 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.400 their Office of Civil Rights. And so what we're pushing 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:28.130 for now is for the federal administration to pay attention 0:08:28.170 --> 0:08:31.150 to what's happening in Massachusetts and hopefully add this to 0:08:31.190 --> 0:08:35.610 their list of investigations and enforcement actions as they seek 0:08:35.690 --> 0:08:38.850 to get schools across the country to uphold Title IX. 0:08:39.350 --> 0:08:44.510 You know, a lot of parents, Lewis, they don't have 0:08:44.590 --> 0:08:47.390 the money... I mean, we pay all this money in taxes. 0:08:47.550 --> 0:08:51.290 We send our kids to government schools. It's another example 0:08:51.390 --> 0:08:54.300 of all those people that believe in this Green New Deal, 0:08:54.380 --> 0:08:56.720 cradle to grave, womb to the tomb, and everything's going 0:08:56.740 --> 0:08:59.040 to be free, and the government's going to provide daycare 0:08:59.080 --> 0:09:02.740 and even babysitting services on date night, and free buses, 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:11.000 and guaranteed... you know, government jobs and guaranteed government salaries 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:15.920 and guaranteed government healthy food and Medicare for all or 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:22.000 guaranteed healthcare, guaranteed retirement, guaranteed, guaranteed, guaranteed. Nobody's ever given 0:09:22.020 --> 0:09:24.750 a price tag to all of that. And meanwhile, the 0:09:24.790 --> 0:09:27.710 government fails. We spend more per capita on education than 0:09:27.750 --> 0:09:30.370 any country in the industrialized world with the worst result. 0:09:30.450 --> 0:09:34.069 Our government schools have failed spectacularly. Now we're at a 0:09:34.130 --> 0:09:37.250 point where we're not even protecting the kids. And I'm 0:09:37.309 --> 0:09:41.510 sure after you pay your state taxes in Massachusetts, which 0:09:41.550 --> 0:09:44.370 are pretty high, and you pay your federal taxes and 0:09:44.390 --> 0:09:46.849 you pay your FICA taxes and maybe put a little 0:09:46.870 --> 0:09:50.309 bit of money away for retirement and probably I don't know. 0:09:50.250 --> 0:09:51.170 What you do for a living. 0:09:52.290 --> 0:09:56.170 I'm assuming that sending your daughter to either a Christian 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:58.960 school or a Catholic school or a public school where 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.770 this wouldn't occur. I'm guessing it's not an option for you, which, 0:10:02.820 --> 0:10:05.530 by the way, is the case for many parents, if 0:10:05.600 --> 0:10:07.179 not most parents in the country. 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:07.720 Am I wrong? 0:10:08.740 --> 0:10:12.320 No, not at all. It's a financial burden to be 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:14.660 able to pull your children out and stick them in 0:10:14.700 --> 0:10:17.000 private school or even homeschool, right? If you have a 0:10:17.020 --> 0:10:20.439 parent that's working... 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. to make 0:10:20.540 --> 0:10:23.000 ends meet with all the taxes that we pay here 0:10:23.020 --> 0:10:27.020 in the community. We expect our school systems in this 0:10:27.059 --> 0:10:31.640 country to be A1 in the world. And they missed 0:10:31.710 --> 0:10:34.300 the target. They missed their point. And we need to 0:10:34.330 --> 0:10:37.430 get a federal investigation down into these little rural areas 0:10:37.510 --> 0:10:40.610 and down into these small towns and have them comply 0:10:40.630 --> 0:10:45.689 and start changing the policies per federal law. And they're hiding. 0:10:45.730 --> 0:10:48.729 They're grasping for straws. But we need to pull those 0:10:48.770 --> 0:10:51.550 straws for them and show them that parents, we're not 0:10:51.590 --> 0:10:52.989 going to take it. We're not going to take it. 0:10:52.990 --> 0:10:55.270 We can't have this happening to our children. 0:10:56.670 --> 0:10:58.440 Is it a fair statement to say you and your 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:01.460 wife don't have another option, that this is it, the 0:11:01.500 --> 0:11:06.020 government school, that you just can't afford a private school 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.480 and you don't have the ability because you're out working 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:13.000 every day, you don't have the ability to homeschool your daughter? 0:11:13.740 --> 0:11:14.700 Is that a fair statement? 0:11:15.290 --> 0:11:17.530 It's a fair statement. It's a fair statement. And for 0:11:17.570 --> 0:11:22.680 many families in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this state has 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.790 some of the highest taxes And it's very difficult for 0:11:27.070 --> 0:11:30.270 people to accommodate their children in that way. You know, 0:11:30.309 --> 0:11:32.510 we trust these people. We send them to school for 0:11:32.590 --> 0:11:34.949 six hours a day to take care of them like 0:11:34.990 --> 0:11:37.570 they were their own. And they neglect that. They're too 0:11:37.590 --> 0:11:40.510 busy trying to push these ideologies and stuff on the children. 0:11:40.570 --> 0:11:42.070 And it's not fair. It's not fair. 0:11:42.290 --> 0:11:45.790 Well, what about President Trump, who declared it's the official 0:11:45.850 --> 0:11:49.050 policy of the U.S. government that there are only two sexes, 0:11:49.110 --> 0:11:52.640 male and female? I'm asking Sam, your attorney, this. You know, 0:11:52.660 --> 0:11:56.560 what about the president banning federal funding, sponsorship, promotion of 0:11:56.780 --> 0:12:01.660 chemical or surgical mutilation of minors? Or, you know, ending 0:12:01.700 --> 0:12:06.350 DEI programs in the military and elsewhere? Or, you know, 0:12:06.530 --> 0:12:11.470 ending the, quote, un-American indoctrination of schoolchildren by terminating federal 0:12:11.510 --> 0:12:14.250 support for gender ideology and equity curricula? 0:12:14.650 --> 0:12:16.050 The president has done all of that. 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.800 And the president ending unfair, demeaning practices forcing women to 0:12:19.820 --> 0:12:22.319 compete against biological men. I mean, does any of this 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.490 come into play legally, considering the president has done that 0:12:25.550 --> 0:12:26.630 since he got back in office? 0:12:27.950 --> 0:12:30.310 Yeah, I think those were all great steps in the 0:12:30.350 --> 0:12:33.010 right direction. I think the problem is when you get 0:12:33.030 --> 0:12:38.150 down to kind of the nitty-gritty details, we need enforcement 0:12:38.220 --> 0:12:41.840 action against these schools because a lot of these schools 0:12:41.900 --> 0:12:45.849 in these blue states like Massachusetts, They just ignore the 0:12:46.290 --> 0:12:49.000 executive orders. They ignore what the president is saying until 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.500 they're forced by a court or by an executive agency 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.840 through enforcement action to actually scrap these policies and to 0:12:56.920 --> 0:13:00.370 protect the privacy and dignity of their female students. So 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.970 that's really what we're looking for here is for the 0:13:04.190 --> 0:13:07.170 Department of Education, the Department of Justice to come in. 0:13:09.809 --> 0:13:11.390 I don't mean to interrupt you only because of the 0:13:11.429 --> 0:13:14.230 constraints of time. I mean, are you getting any positive 0:13:14.270 --> 0:13:16.870 feedback that they're taking your case seriously and they're paying 0:13:16.890 --> 0:13:17.550 attention to this? 0:13:18.770 --> 0:13:23.390 We know that they have opened a case file for 0:13:23.450 --> 0:13:28.500 our case. We're working on getting attention on our case. 0:13:28.550 --> 0:13:30.270 That's why it's great to come on shows like this 0:13:30.340 --> 0:13:34.600 and have your listeners hear and petition for cases like 0:13:34.620 --> 0:13:37.020 this to be heard. We know that they have a 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.240 lot on their plate right now because there's so many 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.960 places across the country that are experiencing these same issues. 0:13:43.020 --> 0:13:46.890 But we're very hopeful that the department will take a 0:13:46.950 --> 0:13:49.210 close look and open an investigation into our case. 0:13:49.730 --> 0:13:50.810 All right, quick break. Right back. 0:13:50.830 --> 0:13:56.050 We'll continue more with Sam Whiting. He's legal counsel for Massachusetts, 0:13:56.110 --> 0:14:01.960 the Liberty Legal Center. Louis Rivera, a father, his nine-year-old daughter, 0:14:02.059 --> 0:14:05.670 I mean, unbelievable story about she's in the girl's bathroom 0:14:05.710 --> 0:14:08.870 and a biological man is opening the door and looking 0:14:09.030 --> 0:14:11.870 at her going to the bathroom and the school doesn't care. 0:14:12.030 --> 0:14:14.150 More on the other side, your calls, reaction to it, 0:14:14.309 --> 0:14:15.150 much more, 800-941-SHAWN. 0:14:22.450 --> 0:14:25.390 You know, here at the Sean Hannity Show, we want 0:14:25.450 --> 0:14:32.050 a thriving economy, border security, and protection of our children. Now, 0:14:32.130 --> 0:14:35.130 what else can we come up with to piss off 0:14:35.190 --> 0:14:39.230 the left? Keep it locked right here for all the 0:14:39.290 --> 0:14:41.530 latest news and information. 0:15:08.730 --> 0:15:13.860 All right, our final moments with Sam Whiting and Luis Rivera. Sadly, 0:15:14.050 --> 0:15:17.160 Luis's daughter, who's nine years old, goes to the bathroom. 0:15:17.180 --> 0:15:20.980 They had already complained about a biological male in women's bathrooms. 0:15:21.780 --> 0:15:25.360 And it's really remarkable that nobody seems to care. And 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.300 the school is not doing a thing to protect them. 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:33.030 Although Donald Trump did put in place very specific statues, 0:15:33.150 --> 0:15:35.250 as we've been talking about. 0:15:36.530 --> 0:15:37.910 You know, against such a thing. 0:15:38.110 --> 0:15:40.310 So I think that they might get some help from 0:15:40.330 --> 0:15:42.830 the DOJ, and I'm hoping I'll explain that in a minute. Well, 0:15:42.850 --> 0:15:47.000 let me ask you this. Harmeet Dhillon and Leo Terrell 0:15:47.030 --> 0:15:49.700 are friends of mine. Have you contacted either one of them? 0:15:50.420 --> 0:15:52.880 I mean, you know, heading up the Civil Rights Division 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:53.620 of the DOJ. 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:54.400 Have you talked to them? 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.940 We have not had any direct contact with them, but 0:15:59.960 --> 0:16:04.420 we have had contact with individuals inside the Department of Education. 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:06.440 I'll tell you what I want to do for both 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.420 of you. Linda, I want you to help me pull 0:16:09.450 --> 0:16:13.710 this off if you don't mind. Sam and Louis stay 0:16:13.750 --> 0:16:17.310 on the line, and I am going to contact Leo 0:16:17.310 --> 0:16:20.930 2.0 Terrell, a very dear friend. Our meet Dylan is 0:16:20.970 --> 0:16:24.220 serious about her job, and we will make them both 0:16:24.340 --> 0:16:27.620 keenly aware of who you are, what this case is about, 0:16:28.340 --> 0:16:31.860 and see if we can't spur some type of involvement 0:16:31.900 --> 0:16:34.400 to protect You know, in your case, Louis, your little 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.300 nine-year-old daughter, this is completely unacceptable. 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.620 It's just wrong on so many different levels. 0:16:39.700 --> 0:16:41.580 And again, it's like a topic I never thought when 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:43.700 I started in radio that I'd ever be talking about. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:44.940 It's insane. 0:16:45.460 --> 0:16:47.720 So if you guys stay on the line, we'll get 0:16:47.780 --> 0:16:51.230 that information to you, and we'll make the introduction, okay? 0:16:51.510 --> 0:16:52.210 I hope that helps. 0:16:53.050 --> 0:16:54.530 Thank you, Sean. Appreciate your time. 0:16:55.370 --> 0:16:57.290 You bet. My pleasure. 0:16:57.830 --> 0:17:00.270 It's not something I should ever have to do, to 0:17:00.310 --> 0:17:01.260 be honest, but I mean.. 0:17:01.830 --> 0:17:02.610 I mean, it's sad. 0:17:23.330 --> 0:17:27.330 Breaking news all afternoon. When you get off work, be 0:17:27.369 --> 0:17:30.669 sure to check in first for everything you missed during 0:17:30.710 --> 0:17:34.310 the day. This is the Sean Hannity Show. 0:17:34.510 --> 0:17:36.100 I'm not sure if you saw this last night, if 0:17:36.130 --> 0:17:39.159 you were watching my TV show, Linda, but Brianna Lyman 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:43.640 asking people about the the Lindsay Clancy trial. Did you 0:17:43.700 --> 0:17:45.540 did you happen to see this? Now, this is the 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:50.060 mother that admitted to strangling one after another, three little children. 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:52.980 This is this is the case. Now, I get it 0:17:53.140 --> 0:17:57.200 that there are mitigating circumstances. I believe postpartum depression, for example, 0:17:57.260 --> 0:18:03.770 is real. Postpartum depression psychosis, I believe, is also real. Apparently, 0:18:04.090 --> 0:18:08.750 one doctor was prescribing one, you know, medication. And these 0:18:08.890 --> 0:18:12.270 medications can often be very, very strong. I get that 0:18:12.330 --> 0:18:14.600 part that there were 13 of them that they found 0:18:14.700 --> 0:18:17.200 in her body. She has her husband leave the house. 0:18:18.100 --> 0:18:22.430 And she's obviously to me, that sounds premeditated. That's my take. 0:18:23.230 --> 0:18:26.070 And I'm not saying that this woman is not mentally 0:18:26.150 --> 0:18:28.129 ill and that she wasn't seeking help as people have 0:18:28.170 --> 0:18:32.480 testified during the trial. However, I don't think this woman 0:18:32.500 --> 0:18:36.660 should ever walk the streets again, ever under any circumstances. 0:18:37.780 --> 0:18:40.480 But so many people have come out and they never 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:42.510 talk about the kids. They only talk about, well, the 0:18:42.550 --> 0:18:45.490 poor mother, the poor mother that strangled three kids alive. 0:18:45.900 --> 0:18:49.149 you know, one after another. So it really is troubling 0:18:49.170 --> 0:18:49.409 to me. 0:18:49.450 --> 0:18:49.650 Listen. 0:18:50.310 --> 0:18:53.469 Clancy is on trial right now for allegedly killing her 0:18:53.510 --> 0:18:56.470 three children. It's kind of taken social media by storm. 0:18:56.490 --> 0:18:58.490 What are your thoughts on this case? Well, I see 0:18:58.510 --> 0:18:59.710 a lot of theories online. 0:18:59.790 --> 0:19:02.300 I think it touches upon things that are really important 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.460 to women, postpartum depression, mental health, the healthcare system in general. 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.180 So I think those are all things that people have 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:10.219 passionate views on. 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.119 So it's easy to see why they care a lot 0:19:12.140 --> 0:19:12.640 about the case. 0:19:12.900 --> 0:19:15.159 I think that simultaneously has to be a recognition of 0:19:15.180 --> 0:19:17.500 the fact that the medical system did fail her and 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:20.899 failed to recognize the symptoms that would lead to suction action. However, 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.699 there still has to be accountability for taking those actions. 0:19:23.859 --> 0:19:26.280 I don't think she has to be in jail, locked away. 0:19:26.380 --> 0:19:27.680 I feel like she needs. 0:19:27.500 --> 0:19:29.140 To be somewhere where she can get the. 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.780 Proper care, like mental institution, something along those lines. 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.639 This case is going to be a hallmark case in 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.550 the way that we end up treating mental health and 0:19:38.570 --> 0:19:40.170 we end up diagnosing mental health. 0:19:40.310 --> 0:19:43.609 I think overall, there's a major mental health crisis in 0:19:43.650 --> 0:19:47.510 this country that we have refused to acknowledge since the 80s. 0:19:48.590 --> 0:19:49.689 And we refuse to put.. 0:19:49.950 --> 0:19:51.520 Any money towards it. I don't know. 0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.600 And there's too many inconsistencies that came out in the 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.929 trial where I believe that she didn't do it. 0:19:57.619 --> 0:20:01.119 Linda, as I listen to these responses and this has 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:05.000 gone viral, this whole case. And we're getting near closing arguments. 0:20:05.060 --> 0:20:07.060 And that's then it's going to be in the hands 0:20:07.100 --> 0:20:09.900 of the jury. I don't think they're going to get 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:11.820 what the prosecution is asking for. 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:13.350 We'll see. 0:20:13.830 --> 0:20:18.709 However, I find that the children never getting mentioned hardly 0:20:18.930 --> 0:20:20.550 ever is very troubling to me. 0:20:20.930 --> 0:20:23.649 Well, I will give you two points to this story. 0:20:23.850 --> 0:20:28.240 The first one is postpartum depression is very real and 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.050 it's very serious and it's very sad. It's also at 0:20:31.090 --> 0:20:34.020 its most acute six to eight weeks after you give birth. 0:20:34.060 --> 0:20:36.280 And then you figure out what's wrong and you try 0:20:36.300 --> 0:20:39.240 to work on it and yada, yada, yada. She strangled 0:20:39.260 --> 0:20:42.359 a child that was five. Her youngest child is eight months. 0:20:43.070 --> 0:20:45.409 So I'm going to push back a little bit on 0:20:45.430 --> 0:20:47.869 the postpartum claim. I'm not a doctor. I'm not claiming 0:20:47.930 --> 0:20:51.330 to be one, but I am saying that there is a, 0:20:51.710 --> 0:20:55.290 there seems to be this idea that it's okay to 0:20:55.330 --> 0:20:58.210 say we have mental health problems. And as a result, 0:20:58.270 --> 0:21:02.090 we are unable to stand trial, unable to serve time, 0:21:02.270 --> 0:21:05.820 cannot be held accountable for our actions. Well, Cora and 0:21:05.859 --> 0:21:09.640 Dawson and Callan, her three children, don't get a say. 0:21:10.060 --> 0:21:13.300 Her husband has already remarried. He's moved on because it's 0:21:13.340 --> 0:21:15.460 three years later and he's getting on with his life. 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:18.480 And now this woman is going to sit there and say, 0:21:18.550 --> 0:21:20.090 like the last one was like, I don't even think 0:21:20.109 --> 0:21:22.990 she did it. She's already admitted to doing it. And 0:21:23.030 --> 0:21:25.550 a psychologist that took the stand today said, he goes, 0:21:25.570 --> 0:21:29.410 you know, it's weird because when people have these psychotic breakdowns, 0:21:29.450 --> 0:21:32.409 there were typically things that they said prior to the 0:21:32.430 --> 0:21:34.639 breakdown that they say again during the breakdown. She said 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.220 everything for the first time when this happened. I just 0:21:37.260 --> 0:21:40.960 think some people have evil in them. To strangle a child, 0:21:41.460 --> 0:21:44.679 to watch a child's last breath leave their body and 0:21:44.740 --> 0:21:48.260 take their lives is evil. There is no other way 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:51.100 around it. I don't care how sick she is. She 0:21:51.130 --> 0:21:53.619 should get the electric chair, in my opinion. 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:54.500 I'm not sure. 0:21:54.520 --> 0:21:58.960 She should never see the light of day because if 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.560 you're that sick that you go to that length and 0:22:03.619 --> 0:22:07.199 you have a psychotic break, there's no assurance down the 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:08.940 line that that's not going to happen again. I think 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:11.619 there's always evil involved in any murder, any killing. 0:22:11.619 --> 0:22:14.750 100% right. But nobody wants to talk about that part. 0:22:14.770 --> 0:22:16.530 I'm sure people, when they say get the mental health, 0:22:16.550 --> 0:22:18.790 then you're going to have some shrink, some plays, some wear. 0:22:19.220 --> 0:22:21.780 Oh, she's stable now. She's been stable the last five years. 0:22:21.820 --> 0:22:22.260 Let her out. 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.290 You know, just like the guy Hinckley, John Hinckley, who 0:22:26.480 --> 0:22:30.290 tried to assassinate Donald Ronald Reagan, you know, was let out. 0:22:30.350 --> 0:22:32.609 He's out, you know, now and free. 0:22:33.250 --> 0:22:35.310 And I don't think that person should ever have gotten 0:22:35.369 --> 0:22:37.550 out of jail ever under any circumstances. 0:22:38.310 --> 0:22:40.290 Every single person from your TV show. 0:22:41.030 --> 0:22:42.109 Mental health. 0:22:42.430 --> 0:22:45.250 We need awareness on mental health. I'm like, how about 0:22:45.310 --> 0:22:48.460 we put a value on human life? We have states now, 0:22:48.540 --> 0:22:52.030