1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: It's that time time time time, luck and load. The 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: Michael Varry Show is on the air. Oh yes, that 3 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: means it's Friday. This is probably my favorite show, my 4 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: favorite Friday show for sure, maybe my favorite show. 5 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: Of the year. 6 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: To do it's Thanksgiving and it's adoption because some of 7 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: you won't be able to hear us next week because 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: you'll be traveling. 9 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: Heavy Day, heavy day, happy. 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 4: Whiny whenny war Quinny say the way love happy day 11 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 4: or happy day? 12 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 5: Happy or happy day? 13 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: Wen't do those wart witty warm. 14 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 4: N't this war see away loved. 15 00:01:31,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: The habit day, a happy day, a happy day. 16 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 5: When you lose wars. 17 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: Oh many, war. 18 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 5: Windy, lose War. 19 00:02:26,160 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 4: Three or a wait you need a happy day? 20 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 6: By day. 21 00:03:09,360 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: Good heavy de God happy day, shady. 22 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: Waity war Wendy the. 23 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 7: Way. 24 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: We have chosen this year to put our Adoption show 25 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the Friday before the Thanksgiving show we always celebrate. We 26 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: know that a lot of people will be out next week, 27 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: so if we do our Thanksgiving show on Thanksgiving or 28 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: the day before, a lot of people won't hear it. 29 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: Understandable a lot of people are traveling, so we have 30 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: traditionally chosen to do that on Friday, because a lot 31 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: of you will be gone for a week, and so 32 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: that's what we will do today. We will weave in 33 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: between Thanksgiving and adoption, two things that are very important 34 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: to me. I think it is important to give thanks, 35 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: to have a spirit of gratitude for God's blessings. And 36 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I think that adoption is so important it just cannot 37 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: be overstated. Well over sixty could be as many as 38 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: seventy million abortions since nineteen seventy three, and we argue 39 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: there should not be abortions. Who's going to take those 40 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: babies in. That's what adoption does. That's why it's so special, 41 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: That's why it's so important. And we'll get to that 42 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: in the course of the show. But first to get 43 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 1: a start, as we always do, courtesy the greatest executive 44 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: producer and all the land chat Tony Knakanishi a chat 45 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:12,559 Speaker 1: a coney Knockanisi, you're a weekend review Sandra, what's yours? 46 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 7: I'm not back and I'm not skinny. I'm just right. 47 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: If a white guy's dating a black woman. 48 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: I got in a white guys became when I was 49 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 6: in college and he was into the breath. 50 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 7: I don't white man's love bread if you don't have 51 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 7: big glass, he loved it my bread. 52 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. You know what I love about Sandra. 53 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: She has no shame. There is nothing that embarrasses her. 54 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: She's basically going to tell you about her sex life, 55 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: a late husband and have no shame about it. And 56 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: then that white boy she dated in college he liked 57 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: boozeo man. The True Horrors of hazing, The psychology behind hazing. 58 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: To figure out why some young men seem to be 59 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: willing to do anything to get in. One suspect held 60 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: his feet down and then pulled his pants down to 61 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: his knees before one of the suspects violated him with 62 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: a boomstick. If you were to study it, there's something 63 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: kind of partially gay about the whole of it if 64 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: you think about it, because the amount of things related 65 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: to violating the bunghole are in some way exposing and 66 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: messing with the peter are not normal. Police are also 67 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: looking for the man who tried to rob a dairy 68 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: queen on the city's West side. Dairy Queen may be 69 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: known for their blizzards, but the chilling encounter with a 70 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: pipe wielded Robert is enough to freeze anyone in their tracks? 71 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 7: Do we have to do that? 72 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 8: Son? 73 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I realize you're excited to be a journalist. Did you 74 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: make a list? If he was doing it ironically, I 75 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: could get it. How bad is this going to be? 76 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: It's going to have a chilling effect that could freeze 77 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: any bad guy. But what's wrong with it? 78 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 7: I was almost full. 79 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: I'm still going, stop going. I can't stop going once 80 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: they started stay. How if you're midpe and you have 81 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: to stop because you're starting or whatever. I don't know. 82 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what all the parts down there are. 83 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: But something involved in the urethra gets pinched off or something, 84 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: and it is unpleasant. And I feel like women talking 85 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: of about childbirth that we should get to talk about 86 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: when you got to snap off real quick, my your pean. 87 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: They are telling me what's called onesies, these little things 88 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: clothing for a baby like moundaberry. Shit, he's support of 89 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: all these onesies. Every year, on every Thanksgiving special, we 90 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: play a call that happened organically. I mean, it really 91 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: is one of the most beautiful moments ever happened on 92 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: the show. And I'll tell you when it started, I 93 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: had no idea where it was going. I did not 94 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: see it as the great call it turned out to be, 95 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: but it absolutely floored me and a lot of other 96 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: people who have commented to that effect absolutely floored us. 97 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Just wow. And I think we've played it every year 98 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: except one. We forgot one year and I was so 99 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: mad at myself. So we're going to start the show 100 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: with it so we don't forget. It really is a show. 101 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: It really is a call of a great example of 102 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: what a positive spirit and faith can do to rise 103 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: above your circumstances. Julianne answer, tell us about your odd 104 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,079 Speaker 1: tradition on Thanksgiving. 105 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 7: Well, I raised two little boys all by myself. I 106 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 7: was a single parent. They're both they're nineteen and twenty now. 107 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 7: One goes to ut and one goes to Texas State. 108 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 7: They're doing great. Good or Night I raised them. I 109 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 7: raised them by myself, totally from infancy and time to 110 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 7: really lean. 111 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Where was their dad? 112 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 7: It's a long story, sir. I'd rather not get into 113 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 7: that part. 114 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: Was he alive and just not taking care of his business? 115 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 8: Yes, sir? 116 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Is he a bad person? 117 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 7: He's got some issues. 118 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: Is he still alive today, yes, sir? Okay, do you 119 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: wish him ill? 120 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 7: No, I don't. I feel very bad for the man, 121 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 7: but that's neither here nor there. Well, I took many 122 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 7: years to get here, sir, believe me. 123 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: But they're both peace beyond understanding. 124 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:21,599 Speaker 7: We call that. 125 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: Ramon, What did you do? How'd you support those boys? 126 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 7: Well, initially I opened it a little daycare, and I 127 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 7: took in children because I didn't want them to go 128 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 7: off to daycare, so I took children in. And then 129 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 7: I also made burritos and tacos and drove around and 130 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 7: sold those out of my car. And then once they 131 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 7: were able to go to school, once I got them 132 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 7: into kindergarten and first grade, I worked in a little 133 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 7: office job. And then I got lucky and met someone 134 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 7: at the pool, and I got into oil and gas, 135 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 7: and now I'm a doctor, the controller. I have a 136 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 7: great career. Things just kind of progressed. God was good. 137 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: I wish you were right here beside me, because I 138 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: would give you a big hug. 139 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 7: Oh, thank you. 140 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: I admire people like you. 141 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 7: I really do. 142 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: People like you. 143 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 7: My entire family lived in New Mexico, and their dad 144 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 7: would allow me to lead, and so it was just 145 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 7: the three of us. It was terrible, and one year 146 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 7: it was so bad we had sardines for Thanksgiving. That's 147 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 7: what we ate for sardine. So now every year for Thanksgiving, 148 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 7: I make sure that I have a beautiful play and 149 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 7: I doll it up really pretty, and I make sure 150 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 7: I have sardines at our table so that we never 151 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 7: forget those were years. And that's my story. 152 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm delighted by the fact that we now have our 153 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: call screener system, our voicemail should I say system up 154 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: and running, and it is that has enabled us to 155 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: receive voicemails again. So in the past, people would send 156 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 1: all their emails in as I'm doing the adoption show, 157 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: so I'm trying to I'm trying to open them, print them, 158 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: read them, and do the show and doing the Thanksgiving 159 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and adoption. I really wanted to give people an opportunity 160 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: to tell the stories because I like to hear the 161 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: different voices and different perspectives. So you can always call 162 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: the show anytime we're not on the air. Seven one 163 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: three nine nine nine one thousand. Seven one three nine 164 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: nine nine one thousand. 165 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 9: Here was Cheryl in her story, him, my name is Caryl, 166 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 9: and I'm not calling about myself. 167 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 8: I'm calling about my. 168 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 9: Dad who grew up in Beaumont and history is pretty unique. 169 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 9: You and adopted at the age of twelve after having 170 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 9: lived in an orphanage and foster homes for several years 171 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 9: because my grandfather was at a barber shop and the 172 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 9: guy told him that it was a shame that there 173 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 9: was this kid, namad Jay and his way out in 174 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 9: life was through sports. But they were shipping in ofta 175 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 9: orphanage and Kingston didn't allow the kids to play sports, 176 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 9: and it was such a shame. He played on the 177 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 9: basball came with the barber so my grandfather I went 178 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 9: to the barbershop or went to a baseball game and 179 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 9: saw my dad play, and they adopted him. And he 180 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 9: ended up playing football at Texas A and M and 181 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 9: had a very successful life. And had my grandparents not 182 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 9: just been and done that to tell them where he 183 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 9: would have been too, that have a great days. 184 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I just realized I'm racing against the clock here because 185 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to run out of time in this segment. 186 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: But so here was another voicemail that Nancy left. And 187 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: by the way, for all of you who called in 188 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: and save you, we may make an extra podcast. Thank 189 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: you for sharing your stories. I really appreciate it. It's 190 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. Thank you for trusting us with your story. 191 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 8: Him Michael Barry, this is Nancy. I follow you on Facebook. 192 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 7: I heard you on the radio. 193 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 8: However, I'm talking about adoption and I just had a 194 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 8: very lovely story to share. My granddaughter came into my life. 195 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 8: She's one of many, but anyway, this one at three 196 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 8: days old. I brought her into my home and a 197 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 8: mother cannot take care of her, and I've been I 198 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 8: had to go through foster care. I had to go 199 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 8: being told I'm just a foster parent and not acknowledges grandma. 200 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 8: But eventually, with filing, I became guardian and we just 201 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 8: my husband and I. We just completed adoption. We adopted 202 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 8: our little girl. She's a little over too now. I've 203 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 8: been working on ABC's one, two threes and colors, using 204 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 8: balloons to teach her about colors. 205 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what. 206 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 8: I'm a little older, but I received the familys and 207 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 8: I love every second of it that we have. There 208 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 8: are times where we have to have quiet time, and 209 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 8: that's okay too. But adoption, yes, there's too many babies 210 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 8: that are unwanted and they're taking away from the room 211 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 8: before we know that's called abortion. But this little girl, 212 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 8: her chances of even coming into the world were pretty 213 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 8: good to numb. And I didn't know I was going 214 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 8: to be a grandmother again. But when the hospital contacted 215 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 8: me and says she has not had anyone really talking 216 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 8: or touching her, and between the hospital and the posture situation, 217 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 8: I said, yeah, I will be there. 218 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 4: What a maroon? 219 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: What an ignoranom. I received a message an email that said, Michael, 220 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I had a great meeting with Russell Ibara yesterday and 221 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: he suggested I reach out to share a bit about 222 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: our work at Entrusted Houston. I'm also a mom of seven, heang, 223 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: ramon you think raising two kids is tough, and four 224 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: of us, our children came to us through the foster 225 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: care system right here in Houston. This work is well, 226 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: it's cut off the scene. For nearly ten years, Gringos 227 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: Restaurant has generously partnered with us to provide a Christmas 228 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: lunch for children without placement. Oh, I guess as kids 229 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: that have not been placed yet in foster care. Russell 230 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: also insisted that I share a fun story with you, 231 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: and I was happy to do so. My grandparents were 232 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: circus people who lived off fifteen. I'll have to figure 233 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: that out because it's cutting off. Thanks so much for 234 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: taking time to read this. I'd love the opportunity to 235 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: comment further if you're open to it. Well, as it 236 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: turns out, I am. It's that time of year. It's 237 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: our adoption special and that includes fostering children. Elizabeth Johnson 238 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: who goes by Lisa as I understand, welcome to the program, sweetheart. 239 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much for having me. 240 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let's start with how you got involved. Did 241 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you start this program Entrusted Houston. 242 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 7: I did. 243 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 6: I actually founded Interusted Houston way back in two thousand 244 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 6: and nine. When we started fostering a family started fostering. 245 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 6: We went through the congregations, helping in love and medication 246 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 6: through the Department of Family and Protective Services or directly 247 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 6: through CPS, and it just I saw a need whenever 248 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 6: you getting kids in the middle of the night, two 249 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning. Two boys were our first placements. 250 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 6: Had to send my husband off to go get diapers 251 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 6: and whites and the right size clothing for them. And 252 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 6: just realized that maybe somebody doesn't always have the opportunity 253 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 6: to do that. So we started collecting things in my 254 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 6: front dining room. That's where it started. And now we're 255 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 6: in over three thousand square space full of clothing and 256 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 6: all kinds of necessities. 257 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: So how did you let's first start with that decision 258 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: to foster. That's a big decision. So what were the 259 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: conversations and prayers around that. 260 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm glad that you said prayers, because it definitely 261 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 6: was a lot of prayers. Honestly, it started off we 262 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: you know, when we got married. Adoption has always been 263 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 6: in my life. I was adopted by my stepdad after 264 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 6: my biological father passed away, and then I was previously 265 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 6: married and had a daughter, and when I got divorced, 266 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 6: I said, no matter what, I want my husband in 267 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 6: the future to adopt my daughter, just like my stepdad 268 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: adopted me. So we set it up where that was possible, 269 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 6: and so adoption has kind of been all always around. 270 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 6: And when we got married, we said four kids, were like, 271 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 6: let's have four kids. We could only have three, So 272 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 6: we started looking into adoption and fostering and what that 273 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 6: would look like. And the more I learned about it, 274 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 6: the more what really got me was there are still 275 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 6: some children in foster care that are mistreated through the 276 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 6: foster care system. And it's not the norm, it's not 277 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 6: what always happens. But it was those stories, and through 278 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 6: talking with doctor Karen Purvis years and years ago, she 279 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 6: would tell some stories and I would get so angry. 280 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 6: I was like that that's not okay. And basically I said, 281 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 6: we can't just be mad about it and not do 282 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 6: anything about it. So I started praying about it, talked 283 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 6: to my husband, we started attending some information meetings. I 284 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 6: filled out the paperwork and just prayed that the Bible 285 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 6: study ladies on it. And about two weeks later he 286 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 6: handed me over the paperwork with his part filled out, 287 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 6: and we were ready to go, ready to start fostering. 288 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 6: That was two thousand and eight. 289 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Was it more or less hassle trouble work than you expected? 290 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, definitely. 291 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 6: You know what, the PaperWorks a lot. That's always the 292 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 6: paperwork for me is just no fun. Anyways, I was 293 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 6: a terrible girl scout troop leader. But it was about 294 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 6: what I expected, honestly, because you're dealing with children, you're 295 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 6: dealing with families. We were really well informed and I 296 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 6: always try when people ask me about it. I try 297 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 6: to really inform them of the emotional involvement and the work. 298 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 7: That it's going to be. 299 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 6: We always attended court dates, We attended every meeting, so 300 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 6: we weren't just sitting back there are you know, some 301 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 6: foster families you don't have to attend all of the meetings, 302 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 6: you don't have to be there at everything, but we were. 303 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 6: We made sure that we stayed informed and it made 304 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 6: a big. 305 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 8: Difference for us. 306 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's one of those things. There are 307 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: certain people who are capable of dealing with paperwork and 308 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: processes and interviews and deadlines, and there are other people 309 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: who just they're just not good at that. And whether 310 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: you're a CPA or a grant writer or whatever else, 311 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: it's a certain personality type that does that. And it's 312 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart, but for people who 313 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: dig in and do the work. Who am I getting 314 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: My wife did all the work. But for certain people 315 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 1: who are organized and patient and relentless, it is very doable. 316 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: I've been on the adoption side and not on the 317 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: foster side formally, but I've gone through this with a 318 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: lot of folks that I've interviewed and that i've talked 319 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 1: to off the air over the years. So how did 320 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: that go from your personal experience too? This is something 321 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: I want to share with others. 322 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 6: Just stick through the conversations. When we started fostering, of course, 323 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 6: people recognize new children coming through our home. We lived 324 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 6: in a very visible area in our neighborhood whenever we 325 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 6: were fostering, so on the corner of the park. People 326 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 6: visited the park every day and they would just organically 327 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 6: start up at conversations and say, hey, wait a minute, 328 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 6: who's this? And so we would tell our The more 329 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 6: we told our story, the more people wanted to know 330 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 6: and people ask questions. And we did have families start 331 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 6: fostering and adopting after talking to us and getting that information. 332 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 6: And then of course the ministry started and Trusted Houston 333 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 6: started off as a ministry. We saw the need, we 334 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 6: were walking through it and we started collecting items and 335 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 6: then helping out other foster and adoptive families. Could you 336 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 6: get connected through the. 337 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 8: Agencies as well. 338 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 6: When you go to trainings and meetings, you get connected 339 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 6: with other foster families. So we started doing that and 340 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: then it just grew into a nonprofit in twenty eighteen 341 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: after Harvey. Harvey kind of exploded every thing. When the 342 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 6: donation started coming into Houston, we saw an ability to 343 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 6: really spread out and instead of just helping out in 344 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 6: our area, which was the Cypress area, we actually serve 345 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 6: all of Houston, all of Harris County. 346 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: Now, and what exactly do y'all do? I'll tell you what. 347 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you right there, coming up, Elizabeth Johnson, Lisa, 348 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: she goes by, and the program is called Entrusted Houston. 349 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Gringos has has partnered and supported them for ten years now, 350 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: and they brought her to my attention, and this seemed 351 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: like a perfect time to have this conversation, so we continued. 352 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: We want to add a little bit about these warhouses 353 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: I know all about. Ramon wants to know what around 354 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: the world is. 355 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: Whistling bungholes, spleen splitters, whisker biscuits, hockey riders, whosker does, who'sker? 356 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: Don'ts nips and dazers with it without the scooter stick 357 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: or one single whistling kiddy. 358 00:23:58,640 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 4: Jason. 359 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: Lisa Johnson is our guest. Our program is called Entrusted Houston. 360 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: Who would be the person who would benefit from your services? 361 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: And how do they contact you and how does that 362 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: relationship work. 363 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 6: Any child or family with a need in Harris County 364 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: can come to us. It's started off with foster and 365 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 6: adoptive families, but we work with any family that is 366 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 6: actually working with a child welfare system now, so case 367 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 6: workers refer families to us and send them out. 368 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 8: Here in our warehouse. 369 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 6: We provide clothing, shoes, diapers, whites, car seats, pack and plays. 370 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: We even provide beds and dressers, sofa sometimes dining sets. 371 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 6: We do deliver furniture for families that are working directly 372 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 6: through CPS, so the caseworkers can put in those requests. 373 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 6: But the families, they can come to us directly. They 374 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 6: can go through our website. There's an information email they 375 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 6: can email us just to confirm that we have what's 376 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 6: needed and they can come out here and pick them 377 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 6: up on pick those items up on their own. The 378 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 6: caseworkers can also pick up items for families from our 379 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 6: location directly. We primarily work right now. You know, there's 380 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 6: a big need always with kinship families. So a lot 381 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 6: of families that we work with our grandparents, aunts, uncles, 382 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 6: but also, like I said, foster families who get a 383 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 6: sudden placement in the middle of the night, they can 384 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 6: contact us, come the next morning and we can have 385 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 6: everything ready for them, diapers, whites, clothing, anything that's needed, formula. 386 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 8: Or all the children that come. 387 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: You've been doing this now for over a decade. What 388 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: are you noticing about the demographics, the situations, the age, 389 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: the location, the life circumstances today versus when you started. 390 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 6: Well, I do notice there is a lot more we've 391 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 6: we've kind of had a shift and adjust. CPS is 392 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 6: always about family reunification first, if it's safe, if it's good, 393 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 6: and what I will stand by always. The caseworkers are 394 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 6: not there to, you know, take children out of good 395 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 6: loving families, but they will if it's necessary, you know, 396 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 6: place children in foster care. So what I'm noticing is 397 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 6: a lot more. 398 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 7: Need for. 399 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 6: The kinship, the kinship help because they are putting more 400 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: children into kinship placements now, the foster families, it's a 401 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 6: lot harder to get them Houston. Right now, we are transitioning. 402 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 6: I don't know if this is a big topic, but 403 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 6: we're transitioning from the state led to community based care 404 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 6: so very soon now to Pelchin will be handling the 405 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: cases that come in, so they'll be kind of running 406 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 6: their child welfare system. And they've taken over that contract 407 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 6: for Houston for Harris County, So there's going to be 408 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 6: a big shift away from CPS too. Depelchion focus questions 409 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 6: people being licensed through to Pelchion. That's going to be 410 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 6: a big shift for us soon. CPS isn't licensing families 411 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 6: anymore like we were. We were licensed directly through them, 412 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 6: so they don't do that anymore. 413 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know your position on that, but I 414 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: don't believe that government is more efficient than the private center. 415 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely not. 416 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 7: Depelton. 417 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Depelton, I will one hundred percent say I am 418 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: a respite care provider through Depelchon, so I work with 419 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 6: several families that are licensed through Topelchon, and as this 420 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 6: transition is happening, I point a lot of people there. 421 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 6: So no, I think that they do a very good job, 422 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 6: and they actually do a very good job with post 423 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 6: adoption as well. 424 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 1: So how do you foresee that changing the privatization, if 425 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you will, the outsourcing of this service delivery Because nobody 426 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: ever likes CPS, and I agree. I've seen situations where 427 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: I think children were taken out of homes prematurely by 428 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: activists who weren't CPS officers. There were activists trying to 429 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: get kids out of homes and for reasons I think 430 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: are not reasons to take them out, you know, being 431 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: a religious family for instance. 432 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 7: Right. 433 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: But I also recognize that there's no situation where anyone 434 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: is happy that their kid is snatched out of their grasp. 435 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: But what are your thoughts on how that will play out? 436 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 6: Well, they still will be I know they're still going 437 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 6: to be doing investigating, you know, some of the investigations 438 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 6: parts the CPS will still have a part of that, 439 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 6: I like to think, And what my hopes is for 440 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 6: this is that once the cases come in that it's 441 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 6: going to be managed in a more timely manner. Are 442 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: our hope always for children And one of the things 443 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 6: that interested seeing on is achieving permanency for every child, 444 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 6: no matter what that means, but in the quickest way possible. 445 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 6: It's the cases that drag on for a very long 446 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 6: time that are sometimes the most upsetting. Then you have 447 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 6: less of a chance to get permanency, less of a 448 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 6: chance for either the child to be placed back home 449 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 6: again reunification or adoption which, like I said, yeah, we 450 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 6: did four times through foster care. So but some of 451 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 6: our cases were one year and some were three and 452 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 6: a half years. So that's a hard thing to do 453 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 6: for kids. You want to see a case finalize and done, 454 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: if at all possible within twelve months, that would be 455 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 6: the maximum. So I'm hoping to see more of that 456 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 6: with the privatization hopefully. 457 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Well, you know, anything you want done quickly, you don't 458 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: go to the government to do. We've all been those 459 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: driver's license office, you know. And I think Donald Trump 460 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: has shown with a private sector get it done, solution 461 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: oriented mentality, things could move a lot faster. They don't 462 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: have to drag so slow, And particularly when it comes 463 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: to children, because every passing day is a day that 464 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: that child is without a seat at the table I 465 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: think was your term or something of that order. Every 466 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: day is a day that that child is not where 467 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: they need to be, which is in a loving home. 468 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: And that's I get really sappy over this issue. I 469 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: don't like the thought of a child not having a 470 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: parent to care for them. And whatever we need to 471 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: do to facilitate this very natural, godly relationship we need 472 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: to do, and it sounds like you're hopeful that's where 473 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: we're headed with this. 474 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 6: That is exactly what I'm hopeful for, and that's what 475 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 6: we strive to do, no matter what that is. Whether 476 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 6: it's like I said, just a mom that has fallen 477 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 6: on a hard time and CPS has had to step 478 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 6: in for a momentary time getting her back into a position, 479 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 6: or mom and dad whoever it is, helping them get 480 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 6: to where they need to be to be able to 481 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 6: receive the children back in the home and get reunification, 482 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 6: or whether it's for the foster parent to adopt. No 483 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 6: matter what it is, it's the permanency. It's always about 484 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 6: the child for us, always. 485 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: Well, and it should be. I'm glad to hear that 486 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: Steve Jobs and Elon Musk have a end user oriented 487 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: mentality that drives everything from designed execution to labor to pricing. 488 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: And I see things like this where sometimes I get 489 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: the sense that there are people involved that are forgetting 490 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: that this is about those children. It's not about your 491 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: ego or how much money you can make, or how 492 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: much power you can have, or how many awards you 493 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: can win. So I am delighted to hear you say 494 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: that because I agree. I think as it should be 495 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: a website entrusted Houston. 496 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 8: Is that right, Yes, Houston, gotge. 497 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: Lisa, keep up the great work. I think God has 498 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: you in the right place at the right time, and 499 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: all of your life experiences have brought you to this point. 500 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: And thank you for sharing that experience and energy with 501 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: the rest of us and for all those little kids 502 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: whose lives will be better. God bless you. 503 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 8: Thank you so much.