Speaker 1: Second date updated. You know, on dating apps now, where
Speaker 1: the average decent looking woman gets two thousand matches per day,
Speaker 1: and that's like two thousand guys messaging her and complimenting her,
Speaker 1: trying to take her out. It's more important than ever
Speaker 1: for guys to be creative and witty when they're talking,
Speaker 1: or at least google something creative and witty and then
Speaker 1: copy that like it's yours.
Speaker 2: So it's like, Hi, how are you not enough?
Speaker 1: Oh you're getting blocked?
Speaker 2: Stop stop yeah no all lower case letters ew.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's exactly what happened to one of our
Speaker 1: listeners May recently when she matched with a guy online
Speaker 1: named Doug, and their conversation apparently got pretty interesting, but
Speaker 1: his first line was just straight up asking her out.
Speaker 1: And May, what did you immediately notice from Doug's dating profile?
Speaker 3: Well, there is a couple funny things on his profile.
Speaker 3: One of his pictures he had a woman in it.
Speaker 2: WI. Yeah, that's a bold thing put on a dating app,
Speaker 2: like a woman his age or like a mom type
Speaker 2: of person.
Speaker 3: No, it seemed like like maybe a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Or girls do this too, And you know, I always
Speaker 1: slept left. I'm like, why would your main profile be
Speaker 1: you and some guy to prove that.
Speaker 2: You can actually go out with someone.
Speaker 1: So what did you write back when you saw that
Speaker 1: there's another woman in his pictures?
Speaker 3: I frankly said, is your girlfriend going to be okay
Speaker 3: with this girlfriend?
Speaker 2: I can't believe you still wrote him back, you know,
Speaker 2: but like, okay, give me back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good to call somebody out to ye like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, did he have a response?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he responded that he doesn't have a girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I would believe him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: Just trust just whatever guys say, and all the time,
Speaker 1: trust the internet.
Speaker 2: So who is the woman? What did he say she was?
Speaker 4: What was the explanation?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 3: So I obviously asked, who's this woman in the photo?
Speaker 3: And he responds, Oh, that's my wife. But we're just friends.
Speaker 3: With a laughing emoji.
Speaker 1: Joke. It's called sarcasm, and sarcasm he doubled down.
Speaker 2: Don't have to down like it's so.
Speaker 1: That or did you think it was funny?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. I obviously knew it was
Speaker 3: a joke.
Speaker 2: Explain the joke after he said it. So that's cool though,
Speaker 2: So you guys are on the same page.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really liked his humor, and he did this
Speaker 3: other thing that I thought was really funny too, is
Speaker 3: you know, he was telling me that dating apps are
Speaker 3: really hard for guys, and in his experience, it's been tough. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's ghosted so many times.
Speaker 1: Sorry to say that he's been ghosted or he has
Speaker 1: ghosted other people.
Speaker 3: He said that he's been okay, but he.
Speaker 2: Really meant both.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He sent me a photo of him at a table
Speaker 3: by himself, laughing and said at this point he started
Speaker 3: dating actual ghosts.
Speaker 2: Oh flat, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I think he's being self deprecating, saying like, see, nobody
Speaker 1: wants to go out.
Speaker 2: It's a dangerous area to tread because at some point
Speaker 2: it will start to make you look kind of sad empathetic.
Speaker 2: Right at some point, like it's not funny anymore. You
Speaker 2: know how hard you going?
Speaker 1: Well, how many people showed up to my birthday party?
Speaker 1: I'm alone? Brooke just helped me realize it's probably my problem.
Speaker 1: You just make fun of yourself a little too much.
Speaker 1: But you didn't feel that way. May you felt like
Speaker 1: he was just doing just enough to be humorous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you have to get somebody's at tension.
Speaker 6: You know, it's hard.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of options out there, and so that's
Speaker 3: how he star.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well so you did you guys end
Speaker 1: up going out?
Speaker 6: We did?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went out for drink.
Speaker 2: And what was that like the first time you saw
Speaker 2: each other?
Speaker 3: It was nice. I mean he seemed really nice, a
Speaker 3: little more spoken than I would.
Speaker 2: Have thought, oh, because he was so bold and sarcastic.
Speaker 2: He's writing. That's interesting, he'd.
Speaker 1: Be cracking jokes the whole time.
Speaker 2: But I mean it was fun.
Speaker 3: He seemed like a really good guy. He's interesting. He's
Speaker 3: in a band.
Speaker 2: There's another red flags. Nothing red flags, I don't know,
Speaker 2: just musicians.
Speaker 1: What's the reputation?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
Speaker 1: They're talented.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about parody songs.
Speaker 1: I think he's a keeper. Don't let this one go.
Speaker 1: A singer, Okay.
Speaker 2: I mean it's cool that he's in a band.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was cool. I really enjoyed the conversation.
Speaker 3: I thought we really got along. We even kissed at
Speaker 3: the end of the night.
Speaker 1: And musicians never wow. Okay, So what's happened since the date?
Speaker 3: I honestly just haven't really been able to get a
Speaker 3: hold of him.
Speaker 1: Is ghost you the iron that he's the one can play?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a weird thing. Like he's like talking
Speaker 2: about how terrible the dating world goes.
Speaker 3: I just want to quickly correct myself. I'm not able
Speaker 3: to get a hold of him on the phone, but
Speaker 3: we are texting a little bit back and forth.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's not totally silent.
Speaker 3: I mean, the thing is, I have a lot of options.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of people asking me out, but
Speaker 3: I wanted to give Doug a chance because I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed my time with him. So I don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: just kind of thinking maybe he does have a wife.
Speaker 2: Or right, like like there's always some truth in every joke, right,
Speaker 2: Maybe he's just so used to being ghosted he doesn't
Speaker 2: know how to actor out a woman who actually wants
Speaker 2: to be with him.
Speaker 1: She's like, let's go out again. He's like, don't mock me. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I hope I didn't duction by actually
Speaker 3: asking him to hang out.
Speaker 2: Yet.
Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll come back call him and try
Speaker 1: and get your second date update. Right after this second
Speaker 1: date update, if you're just joining us, we're on the
Speaker 1: phone with one of our listeners, May, who, in her
Speaker 1: own words, is a woman with lots and lots of
Speaker 1: other male options online.
Speaker 2: I mean, so she's a woman.
Speaker 1: Yes, she is quite the woman. Her bumble hinge notifications
Speaker 1: are blowing up on the rag. But she's not thinking
Speaker 1: about all those other dudes Thurston after her and her picks.
Speaker 1: She's thinking about one guy named Doug, funny, simple, nice
Speaker 1: guy in a band, Doug, who went on one day
Speaker 1: with her and immediately got her attention. But now, for
Speaker 1: some reason afterwards they can't send a nail down a
Speaker 1: time to hang out again.
Speaker 2: Even though Doug went on and on about how terrible
Speaker 2: dating is for him, he.
Speaker 1: Which has May worried that maybe he actually might be married.
Speaker 1: Right because they joked about the woman in his profile
Speaker 1: pick being his wife. Maybe it wasn't so jokey after all,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things where he's like, well, I.
Speaker 1: Told her, how mad would you be if we get
Speaker 1: him on the phone and he told you that actually
Speaker 1: is his wife?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I would be pretty upset because I don't accept lie,
Speaker 3: did you know what?
Speaker 2: Not as upset as his wife would be. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to look at the positive here.
Speaker 1: Who would be angrier?
Speaker 3: His wife?
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out in a couple of minutes. Here
Speaker 1: we make it a really angry Texan. Wait a minute,
Speaker 1: my husband. But now let's just call it Doug and
Speaker 1: see what he asked to say? You ready?
Speaker 4: I am?
Speaker 1: Okay, good job, Jeff. Here we go.
Speaker 5: Hello.
Speaker 1: Hey is this Doug?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah? This is Doug.
Speaker 1: Hey, Doug. You don't have to sound so skeptical. It's okay,
Speaker 1: nothing sinister going on on our end. We're just a
Speaker 1: radio show hoping to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Hey, Doug, what's.
Speaker 5: What's going on here?
Speaker 1: What's going on is a segment we do called the
Speaker 1: Second Date Update, and you're gonna be our featured star
Speaker 1: for the day. No, I don't believe you, Doug.
Speaker 4: He's honest.
Speaker 1: I think you're more excited than you're letting on because
Speaker 1: we're trying to hook you up with one of our
Speaker 1: listeners who you've already been out on a date with,
Speaker 1: and she just wants to see you one more time.
Speaker 1: Her name's May.
Speaker 5: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a good surprise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sounds dolling and it sounds like you guys
Speaker 2: had a great time together.
Speaker 1: Yes, with all the noises, Doug, she's into you. That's
Speaker 1: that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: I thought dating was so hard for you, Like this
Speaker 2: is like you got one.
Speaker 5: I was like, you guys know a lot about me.
Speaker 1: Well, we've heard some stuff from you. From May herself.
Speaker 1: She we asked her to describe your date and she
Speaker 1: had glowing reviews.
Speaker 2: Honestly, she said you're really funny, and.
Speaker 1: She thought your profile's funny too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she talked about the profile.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it came up, Yeah, that you had a funny
Speaker 1: joke about the girl in your picture.
Speaker 2: Well, we asked because we thought that the girl was
Speaker 2: a read. Yeah, yeah, you should change that.
Speaker 1: That's not the reason why we're calling. We're not calling
Speaker 1: to criticize your dating profile, though we could, but now
Speaker 1: we're we're really focused on May because she's really confused.
Speaker 1: She wants to see you. She feels like she's been
Speaker 1: reaching out trying to arrange a date, and you keep
Speaker 1: avoiding her.
Speaker 2: Is she reading that right?
Speaker 5: I mean she does keep suggesting nights, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's usually when you say, yeah, Friday works
Speaker 2: great for me.
Speaker 1: Unless you're not into her. If there's some other problem.
Speaker 5: So that's two Friday night. She asked to see my
Speaker 5: band and like.
Speaker 6: She wants to come to me and perform, and like
Speaker 6: grab a drink afterword.
Speaker 1: That's nice, you have a show.
Speaker 2: She's even interested in, like your hobbies.
Speaker 1: Saying you're saying it like it's a bad thing.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 6: I didn't even know how to answer her, Like what
Speaker 6: do you mean? You know? She was even asking for
Speaker 6: a one on one concert at my place.
Speaker 1: That's her flirting with you, Doug. That means she wants
Speaker 1: to see you and probably I.
Speaker 2: Don't maybe on the stage in my house too much pressure.
Speaker 1: You probably have to put on an entire concert. She
Speaker 1: just wanting to hang out.
Speaker 3: I don't think she cares about the basic bro.
Speaker 6: Oh there's pressure when like she thinks that I know
Speaker 6: how to play guitar, you know, like I'm not really
Speaker 6: in a band, Like I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not really musical at all.
Speaker 1: You said you're not. You told her that you're in
Speaker 1: a band.
Speaker 6: Well, I need something to sound cool, like make me
Speaker 6: stand out.
Speaker 1: My God, chose.
Speaker 2: Do something that you actually do. I'm sure there's something
Speaker 2: cool about you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's cool things about me, Like but you gotta
Speaker 6: have something to like really sticks out, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I get it, like you're in a
Speaker 2: it's a lot of pressure, you're having a hard time dating,
Speaker 2: like with the apps and stuff. You want to stand out,
Speaker 2: and then suddenly this lie is snowballing, is what it
Speaker 2: sounds like.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I really liked her and I didn't know
Speaker 6: what to do and did She keeps asking me like.
Speaker 1: That's why you're not getting this date because she's asking
Speaker 1: based on the lie that you've told her that you're
Speaker 1: in a band and you're not.
Speaker 2: But that's a lot better lie than he was married,
Speaker 2: It really is. Yeah, I think it's kind of cute.
Speaker 2: You're trying to impress her, you.
Speaker 1: Know, And that's that's a rough lie to go with though,
Speaker 1: Like if you're not in a band, how are you
Speaker 1: ever going to prove.
Speaker 2: Your panicked Jeff Okay came to mind.
Speaker 5: Is he gonna go with that?
Speaker 6: Or be a Formula one race car driver?
Speaker 2: That is, those jackets are brilliant style.
Speaker 1: Right now, girls and a guy that lives dangerously on
Speaker 1: the race track. No Americans watch, so you can say
Speaker 1: you're like from France, that's why did you go with
Speaker 1: that one?
Speaker 5: But at least I could have said. I was in
Speaker 5: the off season right now.
Speaker 2: Just driving your Kia around.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've heard enough.
Speaker 1: Oh you have what?
Speaker 5: What what?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug, if you didn't know, that's May who's been
Speaker 1: listening on the other line right now to.
Speaker 2: Being honest now, whether you wanted to or not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I'm I'm sorry. Like you were like so
Speaker 6: pretty and then cool and like I just I wanted
Speaker 6: you to like me. I just I felt like I
Speaker 6: had to say something cool. You know, that's really sweet.
Speaker 3: But also we've spent half of the time I'm on
Speaker 3: our first date talking about your band.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: Bro, here's the thing though, like immediately after already, like
Speaker 6: I signed up for piano lessons.
Speaker 2: Can't count the band not quite as sexy, usually the
Speaker 2: least sexy of a band as a keyboardist.
Speaker 1: But did you say you played guitar in the band though, Doug.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, but the guitar lessons were more expunctive.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play the triangle.
Speaker 4: May.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like you know anything about him?
Speaker 3: I know, like a couple of things about where he
Speaker 3: grew up, and look, it was just a band thing,
Speaker 3: like everything else was real.
Speaker 1: Do you hear that. Everything else he said was real,
Speaker 1: like the wife and his photosy. No, not that, everything
Speaker 1: else except for that.
Speaker 3: I don't need any big, fancy career or any you know,
Speaker 3: super impressive hobby. I'm just looking for a really genuine,
Speaker 3: funny person.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And besides, Doug, do you know that when she told
Speaker 2: us about the band, Alexis and I were both like
Speaker 2: red flag. It's true, red flag. You can't trust a
Speaker 2: guy in a band. Apparently you can't trust a guy
Speaker 2: not in a band to ye and.
Speaker 5: Girls always loved mad boys.
Speaker 2: In band, but not for long my friend.
Speaker 1: Would you honestly have been interested in him if he
Speaker 1: did not say he was in a band?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: The thing that attracted me to him was his humor
Speaker 3: and that he was funny.
Speaker 2: Well did he come up with a good band name?
Speaker 2: Maybe he had a funny band name?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah he did. They check a noodle tub check out.
Speaker 1: I like it at the very least. May just talking
Speaker 1: to him now, he seems like a nice, sincere guy.
Speaker 1: He is coming clean. Yeah, and Doug, I'm going to
Speaker 1: give you twenty seconds here to say your final piece
Speaker 1: before we offer to send you guys out on a date.
Speaker 1: What do you want to say to.
Speaker 4: May, I just I should have been up front. I'm
Speaker 4: super sorry. If you give me a second chance, I
Speaker 4: I'll just anything you want to know, straight honest truth,
Speaker 4: and I'll be my goofy normal self and you can
Speaker 4: either like me for.
Speaker 5: That or no.
Speaker 1: Plus, we're going to offer to pay to send you
Speaker 1: guys out on another date. May, So what do you say?
Speaker 3: I will say that I do not like liars, and
Speaker 3: I also am very attracted to people who are super
Speaker 3: secure with themselves and who they are. However, I really
Speaker 3: enjoyed talking to you, and so I will give you
Speaker 3: a second chance.
Speaker 1: Person. Yes, okay, so.
Speaker 3: Yes, no, no, it's yes, I want to go on.
Speaker 3: It's like okay.
Speaker 1: To say, she's so excited to see you again. She
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear your first piano lesson once you
Speaker 1: figure it out.
Speaker 6: Yes, man, you have no idea having this liar back
Speaker 6: out less stressed.
Speaker 5: I feel that's really sweet. We can get together on
Speaker 5: Friday if you want.
Speaker 1: Piano lessons a weekdays and your wife's cool with that dog, Yes,
Speaker 1: my wife.
Speaker 2: Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1: That may be the first self admitting, outright liar on
Speaker 1: our show that our listeners were actually rooting for.
Speaker 2: Because he's just so sweet, you know, and like earnest.
Speaker 2: He was really earnest about the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Until he really was just like so nervous because he
Speaker 1: liked her so much, just to make up an excuse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just goes to show. If you lie and you
Speaker 1: do get caught, try to sound as pathetic and helpless
Speaker 1: as you pasifly can, and people will feel so bad
Speaker 1: for you that they'll actually be on.
Speaker 2: Your team wrong or just have a good apology. That's
Speaker 2: what he had you too. God, he wasn't pathetic.
Speaker 1: He even won over Brook, which is hard for any
Speaker 1: man to do. So serious, make sure to hit off
Speaker 1: our YouTube TikTok, our Instagram Aprok and Jeffrey to see
Speaker 1: clips from our show so you can lie to your
Speaker 1: next date and that you're one of us and they
Speaker 1: don't believe you. I Brook, I buy it.
Speaker 2: I don't have to get more dates.
Speaker 1: With that one of us. Maybe anyway, you can always
Speaker 1: listen to our show up on our podcast wherever you
Speaker 1: get yours at Brooke and Jeffrey Brooke
Speaker 5: And Jeffrey in the Morning