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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullim Sounds, John Oceans,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, Jacks Drive Time, it starts right now. If

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Speaker 1: we all said right here, after putting this stame together

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Speaker 1: and said, for six months, I'm gonna take care of myself,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna come back to the best shape of my life.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive into this. I expect him be coming

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Speaker 1: six months and just ever then you got and then

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Speaker 1: we'll regroup after that. Tell me what else you got

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Speaker 1: to do for six months. For the rest of your life,

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Speaker 1: you'll never forget this big party. History of the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: and the stadium is awesome. Jackson goes awesome. Now we

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Speaker 1: got win some damn games. Oh. In TV terms, that's

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Speaker 1: what we like to say, a great sound bite. We're

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Speaker 1: back Jaguars Drive Time and it's two guys, Hi, John O, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, Ashland Sullivan back here with you for the

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Speaker 1: first Jaguars Drive Time of the official season. That was

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Speaker 1: the last episode of the Hunt. If you did not

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Speaker 1: spend your summer vacation watching it, go Jaguars dot com

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Speaker 1: Jaguars YouTube and check it out. They did a great

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Speaker 1: job kind of sad it's over. Very well. Then well

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Speaker 1: there's a lot more story to tell, which just get

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Speaker 1: told in a different way. Very true. Yeah, kudos to

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Speaker 1: the gang. Kudos to Max Hawkman and the Gang for

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Speaker 1: the hunting. Great job. I will have you know that,

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Speaker 1: John Os, You're walked in here this morning and said

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Speaker 1: that this is his year. He is going to be

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Speaker 1: better than ever things are looking. I'm very happy for you.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to elaborate on that? Do you elaborate exactly? Well?

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Speaker 1: Training camp coming here shortly, starting on Wednesday, and that

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Speaker 1: leads us right into big things. Let's just go ahead

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Speaker 1: and do it. Big thing one is it's here. Training

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Speaker 1: and you will have the chance starting on Thursday. Big

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Speaker 1: that is because what you're seeing on this screen, which

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Speaker 1: to view. This is one of the most monumental off

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Speaker 1: there have been I mean, the most monumental off season

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Speaker 1: that was a seismic shift, but not like this one.

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Speaker 1: I think the most remarkable thing is that One in

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Speaker 1: They drafted this kid playing Gabbert and he played in

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Speaker 1: last year. So the obvious started sort of looking at

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Speaker 1: it and saying, okay, there, And that was the obvious

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Speaker 1: reaction by a lot of folks who were on the

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Speaker 1: practice field as well. He's not as bad as you

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Speaker 1: might think for a guy who didn't play. And what

433
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Speaker 1: most people didn't know, because how many people really do

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Speaker 1: their homework anymore, was that this was a guy who,

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Speaker 1: if he had played his sophomore year and probably his

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Speaker 1: junior year, might have been a top half of the

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Speaker 1: first round selection. He was that highly regarded as a prospect.

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Speaker 1: The reason that people are excited is because you see

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Speaker 1: the measurables. But the reality of it is is that

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Speaker 1: if he becomes a star next year, Man, do they

441
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Speaker 1: have something that's a great pick? Then do we have

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Speaker 1: the clip of him going into the burning building? Not yet,

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Speaker 1: I'll get it next week. Max, you didn't tell me

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Speaker 1: you wanted that. You know, I gotta pre produce stuff

445
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Speaker 1: like that. Next week, I'll get it for you. All right.

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Speaker 1: So this we don't need an answer on. But I'm

447
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Speaker 1: going to pose the argument just to be that gal

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Speaker 1: who was going to be wide receiver one. This is

449
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Speaker 1: DJ Chark versus Marvin Jones. Is going to get interesting

450
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Speaker 1: because everyone says you gotta have the guy, you gotta

451
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Speaker 1: be the guy. And I think we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is going to decide this argument of who

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Speaker 1: he is most comfortable with. But you had a lot

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Speaker 1: of questions, Okay, well, who are the Jaguars is Julio Jones?

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Speaker 1: I think in training camp we're going to find out

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Speaker 1: who Trevor Lawrence is more comfortable with. I don't know

457
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Speaker 1: if this gets resolved, and I don't think it has to.

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Speaker 1: Can I redefine your your argument? DJ Chark is the

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Speaker 1: guy who's closest physically to being a number one, right.

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Speaker 1: He's young, he's tall, he's fast, he's got the measurables.

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Speaker 1: Marvin Jones is what thirty one years old. He's experienced,

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Speaker 1: he's savvy, he knows how to play the game. He

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Speaker 1: knows how the game is played and has played with

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Speaker 1: top quarterbacks before. So Marvin Jones might catch more passes

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Speaker 1: this year because he'll understand how to work to the

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Speaker 1: young quarterback. But that doesn't mean that DJ Chart can't

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Speaker 1: be one, and he may show you that as well.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see Marvin Jones as being the one

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Speaker 1: because he's never been that guy in his career. Chart

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Speaker 1: shows you that he's got the physical characteristics of being

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Speaker 1: the one. But Marvin Jones could could more fill that

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Speaker 1: rule this year, probably start again. I agree with you Slenat.

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Speaker 1: I've always believed that the whole thing about number one

474
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Speaker 1: has has sort of come into play in the last

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Speaker 1: few years as you see more talking heads needing topics

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Speaker 1: on national and they start talking about QB one, and

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Speaker 1: I mean and and our wide receiver one. There's usually

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Speaker 1: three receivers on the field in the NFL these days.

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Speaker 1: But the key to your quote top wide receiver. Is

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Speaker 1: he a guy who forces the defense to play you

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Speaker 1: in a certain way? And is he a guy who

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Speaker 1: forces shading to his side? Do you have to worry

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Speaker 1: about him or else he beats you? Uh? DJ Shark

484
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Speaker 1: showed the first step of that in nineteen. He showed

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Speaker 1: the ability to beat a single coverage and make huge place.

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Speaker 1: Once teams started to double him, he fell off a

487
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Speaker 1: little bit. His next task on the way to that

488
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Speaker 1: place of being a number one is beating doubles and

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Speaker 1: shading more often. Uh. I do think he's the guy

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Speaker 1: on the roster that more teams will game plan four

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Speaker 1: than anybody else in the wide receiver corps, So I

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Speaker 1: think he'll be the one. Does he have those numbers? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: This performance, I think he's still going there. Marvin Jones

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Speaker 1: will take advantage of the fact that everyone's granted that way,

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Speaker 1: and he'll look like the one. Marvin Jones hopes the

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Speaker 1: teams think DJ is the one, and Marvin Jones is

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Speaker 1: smart enough, tough enough, experienced enough to be able to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of that situation. We haven't even mentioned laviscussion

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Speaker 1: all and what his role will be. So it's a

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Speaker 1: good problem to have. Again. John talked about depth, and

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Speaker 1: we talked about one in fifteen and but despite that,

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Speaker 1: there being players on this roster you've got you've got

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Speaker 1: a couple of guys out there that you can feel

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Speaker 1: real good about. Absolutely all right. Those are camp battles,

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Speaker 1: I'll save mine for last because I think I got

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Speaker 1: a good one. So Brian, Well, um, So, the Tim

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Speaker 1: Tebow story is a big story, obviously. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: kind of died down over the summer while they were gone.

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Speaker 1: But still, you know, whether I'm speaking at a rotary

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Speaker 1: club or whether I'm standing in line of public, you know,

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Speaker 1: people want to they want to talk about Tim. However,

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00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: is we get closer to the started camping will not

551
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Speaker 1: overshadow Trevor Lawrence When people see Lawrence out there in charge,

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Speaker 1: in control of the offense and the way that the

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Speaker 1: team responds to him. The Tebow thing will slide to

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Speaker 1: the side, and it will be about Trevor Lawrence. Um.

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Speaker 1: I know that sounds crazy because so many people in

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Speaker 1: this town are so heavily invested in Tim. Love Tim

557
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Tebow the person and what he means the community. I

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00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: do too, um, So it will still be a buzz

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Speaker 1: And of course when the media shows up, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's a sensational aspect to Tim because he's so much

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Speaker 1: bigger than just the sport. But Trevor Lawrence will be

562
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: the big story and it won't even be close. So

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00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: many people will just look at him and go, Okay,

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Speaker 1: now I get it. And that's what you have to

565
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Speaker 1: remember about the Teva. You know, I get all kinds

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Speaker 1: of questions. Is he gonna be a distraction? Is he

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Speaker 1: gonna be a problem? Um? When the media comes back in,

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00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: he'll be discussed anymore. But for the players it's much

569
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Speaker 1: more as it's been for the last what six weeks,

570
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: when you don't hear that much discussion about Tea because

571
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: the players, Yeah, you're looking on Twitter, but on a

572
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: day to day basis, they're not that worried about what

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Speaker 1: people are talking about once August six rolls around. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: I agree it. You know, Tim's a find story. Trevor's

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, and I think it's settled once he

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00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: got on the team and now it really won't be

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00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: a story again. While it will be a conversation point,

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00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: whether he makes the team or doesn't make the team

579
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: will be flashpoints. That's the day, the start of camp,

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Speaker 1: the first day in pads, the first preseason game, they'll

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Speaker 1: be flashpoints. But Trevor is going to be the bright

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Speaker 1: shining light. And uh, if people doubt that, just wait

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Speaker 1: and watch. My hot take is that C. J. Henderson,

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Speaker 1: who has sort of been forgotten in conversation because he

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Speaker 1: was hurt at last year. Uh, it just seemed like

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00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: he never really got going after Week one last year,

587
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Speaker 1: and even in the off season they signed to kill Griffins,

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Speaker 1: there's been talking about other guys. He may be the

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Speaker 1: most important eventsive player because if he's what he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be, and he's supposed to be a touch below

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Speaker 1: Jalen Rams, you know, I mean all a top nine

592
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Speaker 1: overall selection at corner is supposed to be a takeaway guy,

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Speaker 1: multiple Pro Bowls. He's supposed to be a build around guy.

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Speaker 1: If he's that, then all of a sudden, your secondary

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Speaker 1: goes from being what last year was clearly a liability

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Speaker 1: among many liabilities, to being a strength. If he doesn't,

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it feels like Shaquille Griffin's

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Speaker 1: you're top guy. You've got Tyson Campbell not quite sure

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Speaker 1: what his role you know, I mean, and I know

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Speaker 1: his role is. He's good, but you'd rather have him

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Speaker 1: as a nickel c J. Takeaway guy means their secondary

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Speaker 1: is really really good c J just okay. I think

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Speaker 1: the secondary is probably just okay. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: really important. I'm coming excited about him. I go back

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Speaker 1: to our Draft Knight coverage when he was drafted and

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Speaker 1: Dan Mullen came on and joined us, and and I

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Speaker 1: don't know coach Mullen at all, but to sit and

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Speaker 1: listen to him, and I thought he was genuine and

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Speaker 1: he didn't have to go to the links that he

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Speaker 1: did to extol the virtues of a player. Not every

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Speaker 1: college coach says, hey, that's the greatest player ever in

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Speaker 1: a great pick. You're gonna love it. Lots of them do,

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Speaker 1: but in this case, he may be effort to talk

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Speaker 1: about all the virtues that he saw in C. J. Henderson. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know Mullen and urban Meyer know each other well,

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Speaker 1: so I'm guessing that when they look at C. J. Henderson,

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Speaker 1: they have a very specific idea of what he's going

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Speaker 1: to be. So I, like you, I think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a very important player. And I recognize that when

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Speaker 1: Ohio State that went to Detroit and and C. J. Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and those two players were thought to be one A

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Speaker 1: and one B. I mean there were some people that

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Speaker 1: had C. J. Henderson equal, if not even ahead, dependent

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Speaker 1: cover guy, probably as good and over absolutely Jeff what

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Speaker 1: was his last name name, Escapes you know about it

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Speaker 1: was clearly number one, but Henderson wasn't far behind. If

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Speaker 1: he's what they think he is. Again, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: depth safety, wide receiver, running back, offensive tackle. I mean,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you've got some guys you can

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Speaker 1: really sort through. The competition level should be much higher.

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Speaker 1: I say it's a lot, and I broken record on it,

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Speaker 1: but if you if you get him as the number

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Speaker 1: one guy, then you have a lead on all three

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Speaker 1: levels of defense, and you have Josh Allen, who I

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Speaker 1: think is going to be elite, Miles who already is,

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Speaker 1: and then you have well, now, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you've got guys at each level who make the other

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Speaker 1: guys on their level better, who the other team has

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Speaker 1: to game plan for, which makes other guys better. When

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Speaker 1: CJ is key to me because I'm sure that I

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Speaker 1: know what Josh and Miles are. I don't know yet

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Speaker 1: with c js, And it doesn't hurt when you have

645
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Speaker 1: those high draft picks and they hit and their success

646
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Speaker 1: but not a bad thing, all right, This hot take

647
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Speaker 1: Gardnerman show just changed the game of how we view

648
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Speaker 1: this quarterback battle. After listening to this podcast that went

649
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Speaker 1: a little viral over the weekend, it was the green

650
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Speaker 1: Light podcast with Chris Long and I gotta be a

651
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Speaker 1: little careful with my languid and I present this, but

652
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Speaker 1: he basically said he's not going to use the bathroom

653
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Speaker 1: because number two is not an option going into training camp.

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Speaker 1: I credit him the creativity it is there. I credit

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Speaker 1: on envy him. Oh my gosh, that sounds like a

656
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Speaker 1: problem and you need to go figure that out. Any Who,

657
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Speaker 1: this changes the game because we all figured this was

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: his mindset. He wasn't going to say, yeah, Trevor, just

659
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Speaker 1: take the job. It's cool. He was going to say,

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Speaker 1: let's compete. But this is his first public stance on this.

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Speaker 1: Now it changes the game because we know, does it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if the rookies at his best and

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Speaker 1: Gardeners at his best, is it even a competition? That's

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Speaker 1: our take. It's take it. It's what he should say.

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Speaker 1: We shouldn't be surprised he said it, right. It's what

666
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Speaker 1: any quarterback would say. Uh, you love Gardener for for

667
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Speaker 1: finding a creative, if troubling way to say it. Um,

668
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Speaker 1: so you know why people love him so much. And again,

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Speaker 1: it's exactly what you should be saying. He should be

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Speaker 1: out there fighting for every inch. The coaches love it.

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Speaker 1: It's great. I just hope he feels better soon. Let's

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Speaker 1: hope that maybe he has the same mindset with the

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Speaker 1: backup quarter about competition, because that's real, and I hope

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Speaker 1: he brings that competitive nature to that because nothing hasn't

675
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Speaker 1: done your Urban Meyer. You love to hear that, right,

676
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: if you love to hear that he is going to

677
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: come in with that kind of a mindset because he

678
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Speaker 1: wants his rookie quarterback to feel some pressure. If you're

679
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Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and you've got the big

680
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Speaker 1: house and the beautiful wife and the money in the

681
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Speaker 1: bank and the endorsements lining up for you. I'm not saying,

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Speaker 1: because I don't know Trevor at all, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that that's the mindset. But you have to really work

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Speaker 1: sometimes to get that mindset going about competitiveness. To have

685
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Speaker 1: a guy like Gardner Minshew behind you kind of inipitate

686
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: your heels just enhances it good. You want your rookie

687
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Speaker 1: quarterback to feel pressure from a lot of different places.

688
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Speaker 1: It certainly helps to have something legitimate there when you're

689
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Speaker 1: going out every day as a rookie to make what

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Speaker 1: the coaches saying sound more believable. And you know, there's

691
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Speaker 1: nothing bad that can come of Gardner having that mindset.

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Speaker 1: So long as if Trevor gets the job, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: say if, just out of respect for gard stomach, that

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Speaker 1: he can handle it. I think he showed good signs

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Speaker 1: again is all sort of conjecture, but I think he's

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Speaker 1: still here because he's showing them he can getting his

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Speaker 1: not being is out, so I think overall you're not

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Speaker 1: as worried about that. But he can't take that mindset

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Speaker 1: beyond what is reasonable. Yes, it's going to be interesting,

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Speaker 1: and we hope Gardner is okay to his stomach issues.

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Speaker 1: That's all we gotta say. Depending stomach. We'll wrap with

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Speaker 1: a lot of headlines in the sports world, but nothing

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Speaker 1: just worked perfectly. Because Deshaun Watson has reported to training

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Speaker 1: camp he still wants to be traded. The Houston Texas

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Speaker 1: have said, we are listening to trade offers, but we

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Speaker 1: want three first rounders to make it fair. I don't

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Speaker 1: blame them, that's a fair ask. Well, he reported because

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Speaker 1: he was going to be find fifty thousand dollars a day,

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Speaker 1: So that's the price, right because he steadfastly stayed away

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Speaker 1: and now we know at fifty dollars day he's willing

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Speaker 1: to come and play. Um, I guess that the lawsuits

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Speaker 1: aren't going to be settled? Is that what you were saying? Uh?

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Speaker 1: This year? The question is because I don't he's really good.

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Speaker 1: Someone will give you what you want for him, but

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Speaker 1: will they not knowing whether two he's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to play or not. In other words, you expect

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Speaker 1: that if he settles these, he's still subject to the

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Speaker 1: commissioners uh jurisdiction, which could be a eight game, season

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Speaker 1: long whatever, depending on how severe it looks when the

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Speaker 1: cases are adjudicated. Um, you know, might you trade three

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Speaker 1: first round picks for him and then not have him

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Speaker 1: for you don't know? Someone will take that chance? For sure?

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Speaker 1: Because I figured it hadn't get in. I'm sure I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen ever, because there's always somebody will find a reference.

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Speaker 1: But um, unless I've ever seen a starting quarterback situations

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Speaker 1: so unsettled for for multiple reasons, do Texans really want

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Speaker 1: to trade him? Do they really want him? I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: but with the stuff, yeah, maybe they uh, they're not

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Speaker 1: really going to say uh. Sean definitely doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: play there. But I think the key is what you said.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any team is going to trade three

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Speaker 1: first round picks for him right now, not knowing what

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Speaker 1: the situations in the season. So I get questions all

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Speaker 1: the time, do you think he'll be able to available

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Speaker 1: for Week one? I can't. I think he'll play for

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Speaker 1: the texts. He'll be property of the Texans. I can't

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Speaker 1: imagine playing Week one because all of a sudden, we're

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Speaker 1: coming up on what seven weeks, and it seems fast.

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Speaker 1: If they want to trade him, you don't want him

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Speaker 1: to get hurt, right he in the bubble of whatever

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Speaker 1: the lawsuit is. Shoes are. If he's still healthy and

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Speaker 1: they start to resolve them, then you can trade him.

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Speaker 1: But if he tears something up, you're in trouble. This

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Speaker 1: is gonna get tricky and heavily impacts the Jaguars as

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Speaker 1: their Week one opponents. So we'll stay tuned to that.

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