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Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome to a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. As always, Bill's out

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Speaker 2: on practice field. Pass along updates as soon as our

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Speaker 2: eyes and ears out there, pass them along to us

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Speaker 2: after the media viewing portion is over. So yeah, a

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Speaker 2: lot of players, a lot of players practicing in many

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Speaker 2: capacity yesterday, which we'll get to here in short order,

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Speaker 2: A couple of players full, and then a couple of

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Speaker 2: non participants, So we'll iron it all out for you

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Speaker 2: here as we go. I don't know what to make

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Speaker 2: of this game, because you've got two teams, Steve, that

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Speaker 2: identical records, have probably lost a game they felt they

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Speaker 2: should not have at this point in the season, and

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Speaker 2: both dealing with a lot of injuries. Bill's dealing with

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Speaker 2: more of their injuries on defense, Buck's dealing with more

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Speaker 2: of their injuries on offense, and both teams trying to

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Speaker 2: get healthier in the process. And I just don't I

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Speaker 2: guess it's good that the Bucks are injured on offense

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Speaker 2: and the Bills are injured on defense, so it's maybe

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Speaker 2: more of a fair fight. I don't know. What the

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Speaker 2: Bills offense and Bucks defense is going to bring to

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Speaker 2: the matchup. But we know there's injuries there as well,

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Speaker 2: because I don't think Dalon kin Kaid's going to get

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Speaker 2: there's that he's their leading receiver.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that stinks. Yes, strange game because it's one of

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Speaker 1: those you know, I don't know who the guy you know,

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Speaker 1: don't know these guys very well. Uh seemed that they

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Speaker 1: seem to have been playing at times really good football

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Speaker 1: this year, just like the Bills, but then it's been

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a roller coaster for them as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, both teams are six and three. The Bucks

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Speaker 1: have lost two of their last three. Bills have lost

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Speaker 1: three of the last five after starting the Bucks started

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Speaker 1: out well. They both started four and one.

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Speaker 2: I mean, both teams need this game. The Bucks only

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Speaker 2: have a one game lead now in their division or

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Speaker 2: one and a half game lead in their division, so

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Speaker 2: it's not do or die for them yet. But they

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Speaker 2: got the five and five Panthers in second place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tampa's up six to three, and the division is

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Speaker 1: I mean it's a mess. It's a mess, and.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Bucks are clearly the class of that division.

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Speaker 1: The Carolina Panthers have played ten games, Tampa's played nine,

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Speaker 1: and Carolina is five and five, And so they're to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta and New Orleans are both floundering. Atlanta three and six,

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Speaker 1: New Orleans two and eight. Carolina. It's hard for us

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Speaker 1: to talk about Carolinas. The Bills just schlacked him forty

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Speaker 1: to nine, and Tampa Bay sitting there at six and three. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that looks like a laugher of a race right

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Speaker 1: now to me. So I Tampa Bay, whether they win

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Speaker 1: or lose to the Bills and this weekend, is going

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Speaker 1: to win that division. There's no two ways about it.

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Speaker 1: You may as well.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of like where the Bills were the last

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Speaker 2: few years in the division.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, with the other three teams being on fire

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Speaker 1: and going down smoking, that's right, you know.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But let's get to Bill's practice notes, which is brought

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Speaker 2: Ethic Medicine, and the Wednesday injury report had just two

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Speaker 2: non participants. Dalton Kincaid and defensive tackle Federian Mathis both

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Speaker 2: not practicing. New to the injury report, this week, where

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Speaker 2: Cam Lewis, Khalil Shakir with a rib injury and Dorian

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Speaker 2: Williams with a groin injury. They were limited along with

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Speaker 2: Christian Benford, Torel Bernard, Joey Bosa, Tarren Johnson, and Shaq Thompson.

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Speaker 1: Good news.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy was wide receiver Joshua Palmer was a

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Speaker 2: full participant, as well as aj Epanessa and rookie defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle TJ. Sanders, who remains on IR but looks like

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Speaker 2: he's trending to return to the active roster as he

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Speaker 2: comes back from knee surgery which landed him on IR

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Speaker 2: in the first place. So we'll see what the Thursday

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Speaker 2: participants can get up to full participation today. Practice squad

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Speaker 2: wide receiver Gabe Davis is practicing this week. We saw

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Speaker 2: a possible elevation to the active roster. So that's kind

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Speaker 2: of the nuts and bolts of Buffalo's injury situation. As

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Speaker 2: for the Bucks, we'll do that in Around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: which is presented by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. They got some good news too. Running

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Speaker 2: back Bucky Irving practiced for the first time in five weeks,

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Speaker 2: albeit on a limited basis and in a walk through

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Speaker 2: setting as he tries to return from foot and shoulder injuries.

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Speaker 2: Also limited where defensive tackle Vida veya wide receiver Chris

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Speaker 2: Godwin who has missed the last couple of games with

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Speaker 2: For the Bucks Wednesday, we're starting guard Ben Brettison and

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Speaker 2: starting edge rusher Hassan Reddick. Head coach Todd Bowles was

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Speaker 2: not overly enthusiastic about Reddick's chances of getting back in

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Speaker 2: time to play on Sunday, but we shall see what

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Speaker 2: their Thursday injury report brings. Meanwhile, Thursday Night Football Tonight

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Speaker 2: is an AFC East matchup Patriots versus Jets at Gillette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Patriots starting running back from Andre Stevenson is gonna miss

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Speaker 2: his third straight game due to a tow injury. He

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Speaker 2: was ruled out for tonight's game. Also out Patriots wide

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Speaker 2: due to a hamstring injury. And Christian Ellis, one of

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Speaker 2: their leading tacklers at linebacker, gonna miss another game. And

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Speaker 2: number two tight end Austin Hooper still in concussion protocol

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Speaker 2: and is gonna miss the game.

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Speaker 1: You think it'll matter, didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Last week against the Bucks. They plugged in rookie Kyle

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Speaker 2: shocked it took the Patriots this long to put him

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Speaker 2: at two hundred and fifteen pounds. Yeah, like, Patriots, were

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Speaker 2: you doing?

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Speaker 1: Patriots will be nine and three after tonight, nine and two,

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Speaker 1: nine and two. I'm sorry nine to two after tonight.

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Speaker 1: Their bye is coming up in week fourteen, right before

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Speaker 1: they play the Bills, so they've got three games before

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Speaker 1: their bye week. They played Jets, Bengals, Giants. Yeah, they'll

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Speaker 1: be that's a walk. They may be maybe eleven and

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Speaker 2: The walk in the park.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the Jets confirmed they will be without starting wide

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Speaker 2: in the receiving court. Not that it matters for the Jets.

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Speaker 2: They only threw for forty two yards last week and

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Speaker 2: won against Cleveland. Eagles wide receiver aj Brown, back to

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Speaker 2: venting about the shortcomings of Philadelphia's offense in comments to

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Speaker 2: the media at his locker after practice yesterday, said his

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Speaker 2: discontent is with Philadelphia's offense as a whole, not his

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Speaker 2: personal situation within it, in which he's not targeted all

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Speaker 2: that often. Quote, it's not just solely about my situation.

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Speaker 2: I want to win too. I think if we're really

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Speaker 2: focused on winning and doing our job, we can't just

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Speaker 2: keep slapping a band aid over the defense doing their

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Speaker 2: job and getting us out of trouble. At what point

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Speaker 2: are we going to pick up our slack? As an offense,

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Speaker 2: Brown was targeted three times in Monday's ten to seven

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Speaker 2: catches for thirteen yards, and one of those was like

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Speaker 2: a hail Mary chuck. One of those three targets the Eagles.

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Speaker 2: I think we know the Eagles are a run first offense,

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Speaker 2: but you're paying AJ Brown gobs of money to get

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Speaker 1: Let me just remind you they're getting paid to win.

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Speaker 1: And if AJ Brown means it means he sits in

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Speaker 1: with a stack of towels. You're in a three game

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Speaker 1: winning streak, you're seven and two. Shut up, sit down,

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Speaker 1: and when we call you and target you three times,

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Speaker 1: you make three catches and shut up. It's that simple. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It's that simple. Nobody even in.

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Speaker 2: A game where they're only scoring two, ain't nobody.

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Speaker 1: Got time for that.

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Speaker 4: Ain't nobody got time for that.

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Speaker 1: We're just win. And if you're winning. Shutting now.

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Speaker 5: If they had lost three straight or five straight, if

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Speaker 5: they were two and seven and it was like this, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: you got a three game winning streak, and I know

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Speaker 5: they scored ten points in a win, it's like, oh

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Speaker 5: my god, shut up, you're winning. If they need if

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Speaker 5: they target you three times, you tell me why you

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Speaker 5: didn't have three catches, because I don't want to hear that.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ain't no what I got time for that. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, it's I get it. He's unhappy. Just cash

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Speaker 1: the checks, catch the balls of the throne to you.

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Speaker 1: And the thought is hold the trophy up. They did

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Speaker 1: it last year, so you know I ain't got time

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Speaker 2: Okay. It's a big NFC West matchup this weekend as

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks and Rams meet up in LA. Two teams

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Speaker 2: tied to top the division at seven and two, and

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Speaker 2: this is their first meeting, or sorry, it might not

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Speaker 2: be their first meeting. It's the first time they're going

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Speaker 2: to play in LA. Game will also be the first

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Speaker 2: time Seattle wide receiver Cooper Cup faces his old team.

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Speaker 2: Since the veteran receiver was released in March after eight seasons,

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Speaker 2: Cup has been open about how he disagreed with the

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Speaker 2: Rams decision to move on from him and how difficult

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Speaker 2: the experience was on him and his family. Stamp thing

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Speaker 2: as it might be to call this a revenge game,

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Speaker 2: Cup said all the right things at his press conference. Quote,

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Speaker 2: it's another football game. You get out there, play your game.

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Speaker 2: I love these guys. I love so many of the

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Speaker 2: you got to play a football game. So that's gonna

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Speaker 2: be what it is. Try to treat this the same

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Speaker 2: as any other game.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Yeah, I don't believe you. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe it is going to have some extra oomph

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Speaker 1: for Cooper Cup. He's gonna want to play well, I

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Speaker 1: would not. I would not be surprised if Seattle gives

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Speaker 1: him a bunch of targets to get him into the

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Speaker 1: game and kind of just start from there, right, And

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Speaker 1: he's right, he's got a bunch of buddies on that squad, right,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of really good friends. But that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's the way the game is. You got to get

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Speaker 1: around that. Mentally, You're not gonna play forever. You may

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Speaker 1: not play for the same team for very long at all.

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Speaker 1: Nothing's ever guaranteed. You's got to play, He's got to play,

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Speaker 1: and you got to find a way to play your best.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the hard part sometimes when there's something this

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Speaker 2: This is crazy. So as we know, the Bill's Hallmark

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Speaker 2: and all I'm gonna tell you is, do not blink

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Speaker 1: Or two in this Puppy Well, no, not like that.

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Speaker 2: But you will hear Steve and I a lot through

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Speaker 1: That's our guy lay off in Rosemary.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, while I love Rosemary's conviction, we do understand

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Speaker 1: We're watching tonight. Yeah, we're gonna see the movie tonight,

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Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon. Eight oh three, five fifty one, eight eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going along the lines you were going,

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Speaker 2: Before we go to the phones, we need to tell

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Speaker 1: All the people that I you know, I talk about

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Speaker 2: And they got Sabers stuff too. Yeah, it's some bandit stuff.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I just could not believe how much stuff

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Speaker 6: What's up, Mike, Chris, I see you, Thank you him

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Speaker 6: more willing to just share their injuries. I know there's

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Speaker 6: requirements for it. Then there used to be, maybe you know,

436
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Speaker 6: back in the nineties, early two thousands, because of how

437
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Speaker 6: much more have they gotten much more strict?

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Speaker 4: I just know.

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Speaker 6: I know that Baltimore obviously got fined recently one hundred

440
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Speaker 6: grand or whatever it was for I believe Lamar Jackson. Yeah,

441
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Speaker 6: has that gotten more strict that you have to report

442
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Speaker 6: absolutely everything, no matter how minor it is or anything

443
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Speaker 6: like that. I just was curious on your guys' thoughts

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Speaker 6: on that, and I will hang up and listen. Go Bills,

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Speaker 6: and I guess unfortunately I have to say go Jets

446
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Speaker 6: for tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got a root for them for sure,

448
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Speaker 2: because that would be an important division loss for New

449
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Speaker 2: England if the Jets can somehow pull off a miracle

450
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Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium. Yeah, I'm optimistic about Joshua Palmer. He's

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Speaker 2: a full participant. Yesterday. I watched him work out before

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Speaker 2: the Miami game last Sunday on the field, which is

453
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Speaker 2: what players that aren't going to play do. They go

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Speaker 2: through a rigorous conditioning workout slash training workout with the

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Speaker 2: strength and conditioning staff and he was really pushing it hard,

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Speaker 2: which was clearly an indication he wasn't playing last Sunday,

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Speaker 2: but it's also an indication that he was close. And

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Speaker 2: now he steps on the practice field yesterday, he's a

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Speaker 2: full participant. Hopefully that continues through the rest of the

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Speaker 2: week and there are no setbacks, and I think he's

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Speaker 2: definitely back in the lineup, especially knowing you're probably down

462
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Speaker 2: Kincaid this week, and I think Gabe Davis is a

463
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Speaker 2: wait and see if he comes through the practice week

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Speaker 2: good without any setback. I think it could be a

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Speaker 2: consideration knowing the passing game is looking for something else

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Speaker 2: to incorporate into it. We know how avidly they were

467
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Speaker 2: pursuing people in the trade market that didn't come through.

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Speaker 2: So do they try someone else in the lineup this week?

469
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Speaker 2: And could that be gave Davis. I don't think we

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Speaker 2: can rule it out. We just got to see how

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week plays out. Why don't you

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Speaker 2: answer his question about Yeah, they're injury boards.

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Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to lie about it, and you're not

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Speaker 1: allowed to You're you're allowed to give the inform. You

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Speaker 1: have to give the information. What you ever for information

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Speaker 1: you're required to give accurately, and there's obviously if you

477
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Speaker 1: think about it, it's what happens between a person and

478
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Speaker 1: their doctor's supposed to be confidential and not so much

479
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Speaker 1: in pro sports, and that's part of the CBA and

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Speaker 1: the players agree that they'll share injury football injury stuff. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but like if a player were to come down with

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Speaker 1: something else, like like cancer or something like that, they

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Speaker 1: don't share that unless they want to. But the team

484
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Speaker 1: has to be accurate in the condition of the player

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Speaker 1: going for to the extent that whatever extent they can

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Speaker 1: have to be. They don't have to say listen, they

487
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Speaker 1: have to go into detail, but they have to say, listen,

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Speaker 1: he's out for this week or he can't practice today.

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Speaker 1: They have to give accurate information off what he does today.

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Speaker 2: If the guy is a starter and he misses two

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Speaker 2: reps in practice, got a list of is limited. Like

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Speaker 2: that's how fine a line they cut. And I will

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Speaker 2: also say this, with the advent of relationships with the

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Speaker 2: betting services and the league, I think the league is

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Speaker 2: even more discerning in examining injury reports because they already

496
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Speaker 2: know the precarious relationship that is wanting to protect the

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Speaker 2: integrity of the game while also pulling in revenue from

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Speaker 2: the betting services that are out there and the partnerships

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Speaker 2: they have with them. So they want injury reports to

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Speaker 2: the letter in terms of accuracy, so as not to

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Speaker 2: create any speculation out there that anybody's trying to deceive anyone.

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Speaker 1: In For instance, it's the Baltimore Ravens. A couple of

503
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Speaker 1: weeks ago, they said, listen, we're not going to push

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Speaker 1: Lamar very much. He's listening to Lamar. We want you

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Speaker 1: to go out and run scout team, see how you feel,

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Speaker 1: and do all that as well. Lamar goes out and

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Speaker 1: practice and he does everything that the team asked him

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Speaker 1: to do, and he took full reps with the scout team,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't take him with the starters, so they

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Speaker 1: listed him as as a full participant. He did everything

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Speaker 1: we wanted him to do well. That has to when

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Speaker 1: it's Lamar a starting quarterback. If he's not taking reps

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Speaker 1: with the number ones and getting ready to play as

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Speaker 1: a starter, he's not full.

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Speaker 2: He's limited, and that is specifically outlined in the rules

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Speaker 2: on how to report an injury report. Like if a

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Speaker 2: quarterback who's a starting quarterback takes only scout team reps.

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Speaker 2: Even if he practices in full capacity, he has to

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Speaker 2: be listed as limited because he's not with the regular starting.

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Speaker 1: And the obvious and the implications are obvious. If you're

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Speaker 1: silly enough to put your rent money on who's starting

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Speaker 1: quarterback of the Baltimore Ravens is going to be and

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Speaker 1: you hear he's a full participant on a Wednesday, well,

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Speaker 1: you know that changes your decision to bet money. And

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Speaker 1: that's that speaks to the integrity of the game, so

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Speaker 1: that it's obvious. I'm saying it, but it should be obvious.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it's a precarious slope that Brownie's right.

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Speaker 1: The league is very, very cognizant of their responsibility and

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Speaker 1: all of that.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here when we return more of

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Speaker 2: your phone call. So if you're holding at eight h

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, we'll get to you when we

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Speaker 2: get back. Who are you looking to see? Step up

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Speaker 2: Sunday for the Bills in their game with the Bucks

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Speaker 2: to ensure victory. Coming up here in week eleven, we

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Speaker 2: step aside. We're back in a flash on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Kilida Healtics Buffalo Bills Radio. This week's game

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Speaker 2: against the Bucks is presented the University of Wyoming. You're

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Speaker 2: ready for any field with the University of Wyoming, a

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Speaker 2: proud partner of the Buffalo Bills. Got to get back

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Speaker 2: to the phone calls at eight O three zho five

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Speaker 2: fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five fifty Who

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Speaker 2: are you looking at to step up Sunday against the

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Speaker 2: Bucks to help ensure victory for the Bills and get

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Speaker 2: them to seventy three on the season. Back to the phones,

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Speaker 2: we go into Tom on the west side. What's up Tom?

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Speaker 7: Gentlemen, gentlemen, and fear producer, Gentleman. I would like to

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Speaker 7: say that I don't like the name names, and I

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Speaker 7: was going to be a wise guy and say that

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Speaker 7: I nominate Steve this week to give the pregame speech,

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Speaker 7: and then if he asked to come back down at halftime,

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Speaker 7: he could reinforce it because he's not going to get

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Speaker 7: hurt too bad riding the golf cart and the elevator

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Speaker 7: up to the announcers booth. But anyway, I'm going to

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Speaker 7: agree with Mike that it's receivers because I want to

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Speaker 7: see this passing game step up now. Last week it

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Speaker 7: was a tobaccle is one of Steve's words, tobaccle. It

558
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 7: was a mess that they only ran the ball through

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00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 7: Cook thirteen times and they threw it forty times. Now,

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Speaker 7: that's not a recipe for success the way the Bills

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Speaker 7: have been playing this year. So what they need to do?

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Speaker 7: And I understand Cook couldn't be a little banged up.

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Speaker 7: He's got to get the ankle, I think. So, I mean,

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Speaker 7: you could run Davis, you could run Johnson and put

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Speaker 7: Gilliam on the field. I was thinking even putting Gilliam

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Speaker 7: in the backfield with maybe Anderson in front of him,

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Speaker 7: and run those two up the middle, because I bet

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Speaker 7: you Gilliam could get a bunch of yards run on

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Speaker 7: the ball. Go ahead and talk about.

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Speaker 2: It all right, Thanks Tom. Subscribe to three yards and

571
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Speaker 2: a cloud of dust, Steve Well, Anderson, Reggie Gilliam, straight ahead,

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Speaker 2: a cloud.

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Speaker 1: Of dust and eighteen hundred pounds of people.

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Speaker 2: Problems, vidavea is three hundred and forty seven pounds.

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Speaker 1: I get, and I it's easy for Bills. And one

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Speaker 1: thing we all do. I do it, Brownie does it.

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Speaker 1: And certainly the fans who call into the show do it.

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00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: You come up with, you know, exaggerated solutions to what

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Speaker 1: happened this last week. And that's all well and good

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00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: and yeah. And if the Bills would have put Reggie

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Speaker 1: Gilliam and Alec Anderson in the backfield and started pounding

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Speaker 1: it right at Miami sooner or later, they would have

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Speaker 1: done it. Would they have done it enough to win

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Speaker 1: the game? I don't know, but it would have been

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Speaker 1: better than the outcome we had to sit through.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: The problem is you're going into a game trying to

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Speaker 1: formulate a game plan with what you know can work,

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Speaker 1: what your team's good at, and to go off the

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Speaker 1: rails and pull guys off the bench or plug him

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Speaker 1: in the lineup, or try some new personnel formation. You

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Speaker 1: should not, ever, under any circumstances, have to do that

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Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: That is.

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Speaker 1: It's an it's an antidote to a problem after the fact.

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Speaker 1: And certainly if you could tell the future, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you would do some crazy stuff, but nobody can. So

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go in and you're gonna play your game.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna do what you do. You're gonna have your

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Speaker 1: players stick to their strengths, put them in a position

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Speaker 1: to be successful, and you're gonna and you're gonna run

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Speaker 1: your game plan. I get it, Tom, we all do it.

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Speaker 1: If they would have, if they would have gone heavier

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Speaker 1: than heavy, I mean the old if they would have

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Speaker 1: gone jumbo heavy, you know, give me the seven forty

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Speaker 1: seven personnel, right, let's go. Uh, they might have been,

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Speaker 1: They might have might have you know, they might have

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Speaker 1: won the game doing that. But going into the game,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think the Miami Dolphins are gonna

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Speaker 1: have the kind of effort they had and the Bills

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Speaker 1: are gonna have the kind of effort they had. You

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Speaker 1: go into that game not knowing, so you do what

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Speaker 1: you do best. You stick to that, You plan for that,

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Speaker 1: and you have contingency plans and plan b's and Plan c's, f's, h's,

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Speaker 1: all of those things. So yeah, I get it. It'd

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Speaker 1: be fun to think. It's fun to think about. I

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Speaker 1: was sitting with Thurman and Jim a couple of days

618
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Speaker 1: ago and we were laughing and how much absolute fun

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Speaker 1: the offense was back in the day running a play

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Speaker 1: every sixteen seconds in real time, in real time, forget

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Speaker 1: the game clock and play clock. It was like, let's

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Speaker 1: just get there as fast as we can to snap

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Speaker 1: it again. Let's go. It was fun because it worked.

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Speaker 1: You also had four Hall of Fame guys on the

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Speaker 1: edges of that offense and the biggest offensive line in

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Speaker 1: pro football. It's a little different scenario these days, so

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Speaker 1: it's always fun to think about and talk about. But

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Speaker 1: when push comes to shove and you got to put

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Speaker 1: in a real game plan against a real for a

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Speaker 1: real NFL game, you don't do the kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: we always talk about. It's just not smart.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Diane and Clarence. What's up. Diane.

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Speaker 8: Hey, guys, I will keep it short and sweet. Thanks

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Speaker 8: for taking my call. I don't know if you guys noticed,

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00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 8: but after last week's game, well I know you did.

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Speaker 8: You commented on you know they were some of the

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Speaker 8: players were. We didn't, you know, we didn't show up

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Speaker 8: to you know, we didn't play as hard as they did,

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 8: or you know, didn't show up for the game or whatever.

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Speaker 8: I think everybody on that roster who is dressed for

641
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Speaker 8: Sunday's game needs to step up their game, show up

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Speaker 8: to win, and show up and play hard. I played

643
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 8: sports all my life and never got paid a dime.

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Speaker 8: I showed up to win that game. I and honestly,

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Speaker 8: I've never seen Josh look so disheveled after a postgame interview.

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Speaker 8: So I don't know if something went through the locker

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Speaker 8: room that day or what, but I believe every if

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Speaker 8: every player shows up they play their position and they

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Speaker 8: played like the team that they are and actually do

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Speaker 8: what they're supposed to do with their job is, they

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Speaker 8: will win. But enough with they played harder than we

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Speaker 8: did or you know whatever, There's no more excuses like that.

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Speaker 8: I want to hear it. Just show up, play and

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Speaker 8: be the great team that you are and that's all

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Speaker 8: I got to say.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dian. Yeah, I mean day Kwon Jones said as

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Speaker 2: much in the locker room last Sunday because he was

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Speaker 2: asked what some of his teammates were saying, like, well,

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Speaker 2: they just played harder than us, and Daikwon kind of

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Speaker 2: gave a quizzical look at the reporter and he's like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: we get paid a lot of money to go out

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Speaker 2: and perform every week. There's none of that at least

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Speaker 2: for me, right, And that's a guy that had to

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Speaker 2: go kick out and play defensive end for the first

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Speaker 2: time in four years because they only had three healthy

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Speaker 2: ones left for more than half the game.

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Speaker 1: You're right, that's a little bit embarrassing, I think for

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Speaker 1: a locker room to go out and play like that

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Speaker 1: and have that be evident and then have to own

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Speaker 1: up to it. And they did own up to it,

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Speaker 1: which is the right thing.

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Speaker 2: To do, even though it doesn't make it any better.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make it any better, but it does let

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Speaker 1: people like us know they saw it, felt it, and

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Speaker 1: it was probably true, and there's really there is no

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Speaker 1: excuse for it. But you got to own up to it,

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Speaker 1: and you gotta get over it, and you got to

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Speaker 1: go on. And I would be surprised if it isn't

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a different looking crew that comes

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Speaker 1: out there out of the tunnel this Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I would be more shocked if there isn't a dramatic

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Speaker 2: improvement this week than to see a similar performance to

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Speaker 2: what we saw last week. Let's go to John and

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Speaker 2: Alden next. What's up John, gentlemen.

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Speaker 9: Thank you for taking my car. Phillis fans is sixty six.

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Speaker 9: So I'm just spitballing here. I'm gonna run something and

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Speaker 9: then I'll hang up and see what you think how

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Speaker 9: they're looking for a wide receiver right that can burn,

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Speaker 9: that can spread the field. He may already be on

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Speaker 9: the roster, and that's with Maxwell Harriston. He runs a

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Speaker 9: four three forty and he can catch. And we were

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Speaker 9: talking about last Sunday. Why don't they use him even

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Speaker 9: if they use him as a decoy, This guy can

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Speaker 9: burn the field. I just wanted to know what you

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Speaker 9: might think about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not the first caller to bring it up, John,

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Speaker 2: and thanks for the call. I think they've got so

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Speaker 2: much they're trying to teach him and put on his

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Speaker 2: plate defensively right now. I think the last thing they

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Speaker 2: want to do, even if it's in a decoy role,

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Speaker 2: is to have him thinking about stuff other than playing cornerback.

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Speaker 2: That's just not the way coach McDermott rolls. They do

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Speaker 2: believe in position flexibility, but it's usually on the same

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Speaker 2: side of the ball. They don't flip to the other

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Speaker 2: side of the ball rarely, if at all. And they

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Speaker 2: have guys that are just as fast, so if they

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Speaker 2: really needed that, they could utilize them. Whether it's Joshua Palmer, Curtis, Samuel,

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Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, all of those guys are four to three guys.

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Speaker 2: I think Palmer's a four to four guy. So they

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Speaker 2: have players that can do what you're talking about. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reason, they have not utilized them in that fashion.

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Speaker 2: So if they're not going to utilize guys that play

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Speaker 2: receiver with comparable speed in that way, I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any way that it's even considered to put Max

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Speaker 2: Harrison on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason that that's not a thing around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: because everybody's got one of those guys, right, They've got

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Speaker 1: elite athletes on one side of the ball or the other,

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Speaker 1: and they don't switch them back and forth. There's a

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Speaker 1: good reason for it, and it's yeah, we've talked about it.

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Speaker 2: And look, they just signed McCole Hardman to the practice squad,

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Speaker 2: a four to three three. He's a field stretcher by trade.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect him to be on the field on

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Speaker 2: offense this week because he's got a lot to learn

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Speaker 2: and get acclimated to with respect to scheme. But maybe

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Speaker 2: in a week or two he's returning kicks and punts

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Speaker 2: to help there, and if he's quick on the uptake,

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Speaker 2: maybe he gets on the field and does that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see they're trying to give themselves options in the last

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Speaker 2: couple of I.

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Speaker 1: Think what keeps teams from doing the massive or sometimes

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Speaker 1: you might say it's a subtle change, just putting one

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Speaker 1: other guy on the field. Whatever teams are slow or

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Speaker 1: don't or reticent or whatever you want to call it,

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Speaker 1: they don't make those kind of adjustments because when you

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Speaker 1: watch film and you know what you're watching, and you

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Speaker 1: see the play that's called, you see who broke down

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Speaker 1: on the play, why it broke down, and what was

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Speaker 1: supposed to happen, and what didn't happen, and what the

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Speaker 1: defense did that was good and what they did that

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Speaker 1: you should have taken care of and all that. When

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Speaker 1: you start breaking it down like that, it becomes it's

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Speaker 1: more about you. It's more about you than them, and

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Speaker 1: you know how to you can fix you feel like

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Speaker 1: and you're probably right. You're right, you fix you can

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Speaker 1: fix it. You don't need to change six guys on

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Speaker 1: offense or one guy on offense or this guy being

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Speaker 1: faster on the outside is not what was wrong with

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Speaker 1: the play. So that's where most of the differences lie

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Speaker 1: in what coaching staff see and come up with to

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Speaker 1: solve problems than you know the fans out here who say,

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Speaker 1: you know, you just put a fast guy out there

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Speaker 1: who can catch. That's why the answers to the problems

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Speaker 1: are very very different.

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Speaker 2: Gonna take a break here, more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: when we return, So if you're holding an eight h

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, stay where you are, do our

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Speaker 2: best to get to you in the next segment. Here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bill's Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: where it is time for Heating Up and cooling Down,

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Speaker 2: presented by t Mark Hvack and Plumbing, the official residential

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Speaker 2: HVAC partner of the Buffalo Bills. Heating up the Bill's

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Speaker 2: secondary and two takeaways last week against the Dolphins with

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Speaker 2: interceptions by Cole Bishop and Maxwell Hairston. Harriston now with

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Speaker 2: two picks in his last two games, Bishop also with

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Speaker 2: two picks on the season. So those two guys are

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Speaker 2: spearheading a new, youthful and athletic secondary. If Benford can

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Speaker 2: get back in the lineup this week, and maybe Hancock

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Speaker 2: can play a little bit more Surprised that Hancock only

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Speaker 2: played ten snaps last weeks.

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Speaker 1: I was too. I thought that might be the spot

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Speaker 1: where he'd really, you know, show up or at least,

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Speaker 1: you know, get a chance to get in, especially against

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Speaker 1: that offense. But yeah, that you're right. I mean we

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Speaker 1: Max and Bishop have really splashed the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's been great to see.

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Speaker 2: Cooling down third down offense for the Bills. After going

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Speaker 2: six for eleven on third down conversions in the first

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Speaker 2: meeting with the Dolphins, the Bills go just five of

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Speaker 2: fifteen last Sunday, and they were zero for six in

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Speaker 2: the first half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't believe. Yeah, I saw that at halftime.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, so they went they went

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Speaker 1: five of what five of Yeah. On the second half

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Speaker 1: of that they went five nine nine, which is better

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Speaker 1: but much better. But man, they.

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Speaker 2: Got in a lot of long down distant situations.

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Speaker 1: They were one of two on fourth down, so that

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Speaker 1: goes into that mix as well.

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Speaker 2: So they've got to improve there if they're going to

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Speaker 2: stay on the field finish drives. I actually think one

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Speaker 2: of their turnovers I want to say, happened on a

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Speaker 2: third down. I think one of those two fumbles was

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Speaker 2: on a.

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Speaker 1: Third down well, maybe Josh's on the quarterback sneak.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So that's heating up and cooling down, presented by team

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Speaker 2: Mark h VAC and plumbing back to the phones and

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Speaker 2: too Alex in Charlotte, what's up Alex?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: Chris.

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Speaker 10: As a millennial, First of all, I want to say

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Speaker 10: thanks for the steady stream of of hits throughout my childhood.

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Speaker 10: I here, I was taking the wrong guy the entire time. Yeah,

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Speaker 10: thanks to your question, guys, people have already said receivers

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Speaker 10: I was. I was going to lead off with that.

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Speaker 10: I'll switch to Joe Brady, another blitz heavy team. I'd

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Speaker 10: like to see Brady scheme up answers, quick answers for Josh.

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Speaker 10: Let's let's not get caught up and Josh having to

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Speaker 10: put on the cape early and often and just get

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Speaker 10: the offense moving in rhythm. I feel like when we've

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Speaker 10: been able to be in structure this year, we've done

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Speaker 10: really really well. That's just been very inconsistent. I did

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Speaker 10: have a couple of questions for you guys.

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Speaker 4: One, you were.

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Speaker 10: Talking about the injuries earlier, and it brought up a

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Speaker 10: question about Taylor Rapp McDermott said he had this knee

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Speaker 10: injury since training camp, but we didn't hear anything about it.

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Speaker 10: He wasn't on the injury report until all of a

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Speaker 10: sudden he's on IR. So I was kind of curious

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Speaker 10: how that worked because I don't remember him on an

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Speaker 10: injury report. And then my second question, I was listening

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Speaker 10: to Eric Woods podcast with Steve Johnson this week and

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Speaker 10: Steevie's brought up about the receivers stepping up in a

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Speaker 10: different way and being more communicative with Josh on the

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Speaker 10: sidelines and really working through these routes and getting that

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Speaker 10: chemistry down, those intangibles that the coaches can't coach. I

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Speaker 10: was wondering what you guys see that we don't see

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Speaker 10: on the broadcast, if the receivers are talking to Josh

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Speaker 10: on the sidelines, and if they're trying to work through

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Speaker 10: things to be able to function a little bit better than.

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Speaker 4: What we have been.

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Speaker 10: Appreciate you guys time and go.

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Speaker 2: Bill's all right, thanks Alex. I'll have Steve speak to

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Speaker 2: the receiver stuff. Just from my observations during the games.

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Speaker 2: I will see in between series Keir talk to him.

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Speaker 2: I've seen Kincaid engage in conversations with him, Palmer did

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Speaker 2: when he was healthy. As a matter of fact, Palmer

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Speaker 2: might have been the guy that I've seen talk to

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Speaker 2: him most frequently during the course of games. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would like to see Brady have blitz beater answers,

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Speaker 2: and Steve, I want to kind of ask you this

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Speaker 2: because it's also on the receivers too, to know when

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Speaker 2: they're the hot receiver with a blitz coming right, like,

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Speaker 2: maybe just explain all of that, because it's not totally

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Speaker 2: incumbent upon the quarterback to say, hey, we got blitz coming, alert,

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Speaker 2: we're going hot here. Whatever. They've got to know, which

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Speaker 2: they're not all hot, but the guy that's hot's got.

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Speaker 1: To know, yes, exactly. The protection is set where the

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Speaker 1: five offensive linemen usually slide one direction, at least for

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman slide one way or the other. The

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Speaker 1: tackle on the other end, obviously, get that last guy

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Speaker 1: the last defensive end on the other side, and then

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Speaker 1: everybody slides to the direction they think the pressures come.

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Speaker 1: And that's why it takes so long to snap the

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Speaker 1: ball sometimes because the quarterback will give that fake count

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Speaker 1: to try and discern and try and get the defense

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Speaker 1: to like give him that jab step like they think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna snap it and show him who is blitzing,

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Speaker 1: and then he'll set the protection. Then it's been it's

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Speaker 1: more and more difficult to do that because defenses are

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Speaker 1: wise to it and they don't give that information up

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Speaker 1: on that hard count, right, So if the offense knows

865
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: where the pressure is coming from, everybody will be on

866
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: the same page. And when it happens, they've already been

867
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: and you'll hear Josh say alert, Alert, Alert, and that

868
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: tells the receivers like, okay, we think it's gonna happen.

869
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 1: Whichever one of you guys is supposed to give me

870
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: an option. Every once in a while, guys miss it

871
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: or they'll set and they can set the protection after

872
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: the alert, so you get alerted, so they're going to

873
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: change their set the protection. When you hear the protection,

874
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: you know if it's you or not, and you know

875
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: which defender or defenders you're supposed to look at and

876
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: if they come or if any a certain combination of

877
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: guys goes against the quarterback rushes the quarterback, you got

878
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: to snap your route off. It's it sounds complicated, but

879
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: it's easy when you're standing out there going through it

880
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: and you see what you're supposed to do. But guys

881
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: miss it, can't miss it. Got I guess this team

882
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: or they get it, and they get it just like

883
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: a half a fraction late, you know, and that's that's

884
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: all it takes.

885
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 9: Ye.

886
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: So it's it is complicated and it but if you

887
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: understand it, you and you get it, you know you

888
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: have answers, and the answers are built in. But it's

889
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: a defensive job to fool you, and sometimes they're pretty

890
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: good at it.

891
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay fifth in the league in blitz percentage. They

892
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 2: blitz thirty percent of the time, which is fifth highest

893
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: percentage in football. Miami right ahead of them, fourth at

894
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 2: thirty point eight percent. And as we know, the Falcons

895
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 2: have been near the top of the league and victimize

896
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 2: the Bills a lot. In that Week six game, they

897
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 2: blitz forty one percent of the time. Gotta take a

898
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: break here when we come back. Our number two begins

899
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: with the Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas gonna join us

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00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: in studio next here. On Thursday, edition of one Bills Live,

901
00:49:19,680 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

902
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by called lighta help.

903
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: All right our number two here on a Thursday One

904
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live Chris Brown Steve Tasker joined in studio by

905
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 2: the Hall of Famer Therm and Thomas Good to have

906
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: your back. The feeling better little under the weather last week?

907
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 4: Right, little under the weather. But you sound good? Sound better?

908
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 2: Feel better?

909
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? I feel better. Been I've been.

910
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 11: I've been relaxed all week, ever since after the game. Okay,

911
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 11: I haven't looked at anything, Okay, went through anything.

912
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: I haven't DoD no social media.

913
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: You don't take calls, no.

914
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 4: I know, I know you guys have what I tell

915
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 4: you what it is. Uh.

916
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 11: And I think even before we started talking about it

917
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 11: or whatever, you know, I'm thinking about this Tampa Bay game.

918
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 4: Right, and.

919
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 11: Big game for them, Yeah, because they know they got

920
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 11: the Rams next week.

921
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter, it does not matter. They do not

922
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: it does.

923
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 11: Not matter, It does not matter. They got a good

924
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 11: football team. They really got a good football team. I

925
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 11: love Todd Bowles. I think he's got an excellent And

926
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 11: I'm a huge even though I went to OSU, I'm

927
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 11: a huge Baker Mayfield fan.

928
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: I love Baker.

929
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: I love Baker, So I'm not saying something. I like it.

930
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, too, If they need to win this,

931
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: they're going into rams. You think, Man, that's a hard

932
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: game to win. They don't want they lost the Patriots

933
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: last week. They don't want to lose the Bills and

934
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: then the Ramp like three games. They don't want that

935
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: losing streak. They gotta they gotta get a win.

936
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 11: So I just I just think the energy that the

937
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 11: Dolphins came out with, Tampa's gonna come out of that

938
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 11: and we're gonna have to match it, and it's not

939
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 11: going to be Okay, it has to be somebody besides

940
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 11: Josh Allen and James Cook.

941
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 4: It has to be And I don't.

942
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 11: Know what pick somebody I know, and that's hard for

943
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 11: me to say, like who to pick because we're in

944
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 11: twelve and thirteen all the time.

945
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 2: Well, it look like Cade's gonna play this week with

946
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: the hamstring injury. Yeah, So Palmer looks like he's coming back.

947
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: He's practicing fully, so after missing three games, looks like

948
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 2: he'll be back. Maybe that's your guy.

949
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, But but will that formation be able to do

950
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 11: that all game long?

951
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 4: Right?

952
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 11: I mean, because they haven't really done that. It's valid

953
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 11: because they haven't really done it. So uh yeah, I

954
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,959
Speaker 11: mean you're hoping that the running game will be back

955
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 11: on part again.

956
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 4: But if it doesn't, you know, what are we going

957
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: to fall back?

958
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you pivot to?

959
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 4: What do you pivot to?

960
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 11: You always have to have like a Plan B and

961
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 11: sometimes a Plan C too, where it could be all

962
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 11: the receivers out.

963
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 4: I mean you're just going to open formation.

964
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 11: With ten personnel and just going at it, you know,

965
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 11: and having Josh throw it fifty So what is it

966
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 11: that the Bills are going to bounce back with. That's

967
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 11: what I want to see. Yeah, I want to see

968
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 11: something different from it.

969
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Seemed like early in the season and when they do

970
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: play their best. Yeah, they have multiple ways to beat you.

971
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: They could obviously can run the ball. That a number

972
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: one rushing team in the league. They threw the ball

973
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: really well in some of the games coming up, although

974
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: they never really aired out right, they don't really go

975
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: but they can beat you with the pass right, and

976
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: then of course Josh can put the cape on. That's

977
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: always an option as well. And then they however, they

978
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: beat you, They beat you when he does his thing

979
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: so there's all those different ways they can beat you.

980
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: It seems as though now when they really want it,

981
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: it can't. It's hard to turn on and off. The

982
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: passing game didn't show up last week like they wanted

983
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: it to. When the run game was taken away, they

984
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: struggled to throw it and do it consistently. And Josh

985
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 1: was running around back there and they were in third

986
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: and sixteen, fourth and seventeen. I'm like, what are you?

987
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: You know they're going you know, when the game's on

988
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: the line, is fourth down to seventeen and they're still

989
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: going for you know, it's bad there, you know it's

990
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: last ditch effort. Yeah, it just seems like some of

991
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: the answers aren't as easy to turn on when they

992
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: need them.

993
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: No, they're not, they're not.

994
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 11: I mean, what four or five weeks ago, I mean,

995
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 11: the Bills were kind of runs on favor to go

996
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 11: to the Super Bowl, right, I mean, And that's how

997
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 11: quickly is falling off. So look, what when have we

998
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 11: seen Josh be Josh? I mean, how many three hundred

999
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:24,920
Speaker 11: yards games.

1000
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 4: Does they have this year? One week one? Right?

1001
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: This one?

1002
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 2: And last week week last seven yards week one last week?

1003
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,240
Speaker 11: But in between that, it's been what to fifty to thirteen,

1004
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 11: not even and not even that right, So to me,

1005
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 11: I think they just need to open up the offense

1006
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 11: a little bit more so I get.

1007
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even see Josh really scramble anymore, right,

1008
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that is a part of his game.

1009
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 11: And what that tells me is that the linebackers are saying, Okay,

1010
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 11: we're we're not going to drop back that far.

1011
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 4: We're they're not dropping at that far because I.

1012
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 11: Think on the edges, the wide receivers, they're not running

1013
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:05,760
Speaker 11: deep routes.

1014
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 4: So why would you take that you can take that chance.

1015
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 11: I mean, we haven't seen any deep balls since since

1016
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 11: training camp.

1017
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: Unless Josh is making an offscript play. We don't usually

1018
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: see a throw deep down the field in the last

1019
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 2: several weeks. I mean, the only big places they made

1020
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 2: in the passing game last week were one's on off

1021
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: script plays with Josh running around back. They're waiting for

1022
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: somebody to get open something.

1023
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 4: I mean, if that's what we gotta do, that's what

1024
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 4: we got. I can't tell you. I can't live that.

1025
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 4: We can't live that way, No, you can't.

1026
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 11: But let me tell you something you remember when like

1027
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 11: Josh was like three four years ago, I mean forty

1028
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 11: five hundred yards passing, yep, forty seven.

1029
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 12: Passing, I mean different coordinator, right, and then different coordinator,

1030
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 12: and then maybe thirty five touchdown passes along with twelve

1031
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 12: rushing touchdown right, But he also had what ten to

1032
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 12: twelve pints to hell.

1033
00:55:58,560 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: When you throw the ball more.

1034
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 4: Well, let's do that.

1035
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 11: And I think that's when Josh got his best, when

1036
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 11: he throws the ball more, and then you have those linebackers,

1037
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 11: and then he creates a whole different problem for defenses.

1038
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 2: I find this very interesting that Thurman has come around

1039
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: to this way of thinking because it was just a

1040
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: short time ago when Thurman was all about running the

1041
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 2: football more. And now we've done a complete one eighty

1042
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 2: Steve in a matter of ten weeks.

1043
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 1: It's obvious that the apocalypse is upon us when Thurman

1044
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: is calling for him to throw the football.

1045
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Thurman, you'll enjoy our podcast this week, Bills

1046
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: by the Numbers, because Steve and I went in depth

1047
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 2: on what the Bills have done on first down this season.

1048
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 2: They are fifty eight and a half percent run on

1049
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: first down. I think it's a that's number one in

1050
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: the league. Four years ago, the offense you're referencing, the

1051
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: Bills were number one in the league passing on first down,

1052
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 2: and you prefer that with Josh to this.

1053
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: Right now?

1054
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 11: Yeah, Okay, I need to see more Josh. Okay, that's

1055
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 11: all I'm just checking. Yeah, I need to see more Josh.

1056
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 2: I don't see you in this.

1057
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 11: But if I see more John, who even are you?

1058
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 11: I'm going to steal see more Cook too, I'm going

1059
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 11: to Yeah, I know who are wearing Therman Thomas suit

1060
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 11: over there?

1061
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 4: Who have you?

1062
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: What have you done with the real Thurman Thomas?

1063
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: That's all I want to I want to see. I

1064
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 4: want to see John you anymore?

1065
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 5: I mean.

1066
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: So so in your estimation, so when you hold on,

1067
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: so when you're estimates so.

1068
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 1: Desperate that Thomas is calling for us to throw the football,

1069
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: we are desperate times right, So six and three.

1070
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: Just we are? I just want to Yeah.

1071
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: I just think Thurman is echoing what a lot of

1072
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: fans feel, which is they feel this offense has kind

1073
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 2: of put restrict your plates on Josh Allen and what

1074
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: he does best, right is that you're feeling, yeah, like

1075
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 2: he's kind of been held back the.

1076
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 4: Last time he jumped over a dB. Come on, man,

1077
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 4: that's what I want to see.

1078
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 11: Man, we still love Josh jumping over the guy from

1079
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 11: Minnesota that was five.

1080
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: He's retired exactly.

1081
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 4: We need to see this now. We need to see

1082
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 4: it now. Man.

1083
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: I think.

1084
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: There's yes.

1085
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: I think Josh is still got that under the hood,

1086
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: no question, there's.

1087
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 4: A lot of there's a lot of football to be played.

1088
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: And I think the Bills rightfully so know that they

1089
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: can't live like that all the time, but they feel

1090
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: they got to feel like and I think all of

1091
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: us feel like that Josh is still that guy. I

1092
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 1: mean he is. He's the dude. He's the defending m

1093
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: v P for a reason, and I still think he's

1094
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: got all of that under the hood. I really believe

1095
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: this team thinks it's got to prove to itself and

1096
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: to everybody that they can beat you other way. And

1097
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: certain the number one rushing offense in the league is

1098
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: a big step towards that. But they're trying to, you know,

1099
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to be a complete football team. I think

1100
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: the injuries, oddly as it sounds to me, the injuries

1101
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: on their defense have compromised their abilities to play the

1102
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: offense they really really want to play or can play

1103
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: with Josh, because they can't. They can't run the K

1104
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: gun because they got to dominate time of possession. They

1105
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: can't put that other offense out on the field with

1106
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: a depleted roster on that side of the ball that

1107
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: the Bills defense is experiencing. So I think they're really

1108
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: trying to find ways to win and still play that

1109
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: time of possession game. Certainly, the running game is a

1110
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: big part of it, and it's got to remain part

1111
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: of it. But if they're gonna do that, We've been

1112
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 1: talking about this all day. You can't turn it over.

1113
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: If they wouldn't have turned it over in the Atlanta game,

1114
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: the New England game, or the Miami game. If they

1115
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: don't turn it over in any of those games, they

1116
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 1: win all three of them, and they're ten and oh

1117
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: or nine and oh, but they turn it over and

1118
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: they can't overcome that. Right, But that's kind of where

1119
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: they're at right now.

1120
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 4: They are they are.

1121
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: Running the ball, winning time of possession, and the only

1122
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: thing that gets in their way is themselves by turning

1123
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: it over. There's I don't think they're uncomfortable in a

1124
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: close game. No, I don't think they're They're not uncomfortable

1125
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: in a close game, and they're fine to play this

1126
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of football until they can get their figure their

1127
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: defense out, get enough guys back to know, like, all right,

1128
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: this is going to be us down the stretch. Now

1129
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: let's turn it loose.

1130
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: Well, well, i'll tell you what.

1131
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 11: We need to just start turning it loose or going

1132
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 11: back to doing because I mean, our defenses.

1133
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 4: They're hurting right now. They are, they are hurting right now.

1134
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 11: And hey, you know what I would I don't think

1135
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 11: the defense would mind if we had two players and

1136
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 11: went eighty yards and score.

1137
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: A touchdown, right right, I don't think they I think

1138
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 4: that would energize them a lot, you know.

1139
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 11: And hey, I know they're injured, they're depleted, but hey,

1140
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 11: sometimes those things have to happen on a football field.

1141
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 11: You can't just get the ball and just drive every

1142
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 11: give twelve or fifteen plays every sing.

1143
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 4: You just can't do. You need some bigger plays. Believe

1144
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: they got those. Yeah, well I'll tell you what.

1145
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: You know.

1146
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 1: They guys, listen, we can't we can't count on that.

1147
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: We don't know if we got the guys to do that.

1148
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 11: Hey, look, I tell you what that might be an

1149
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 11: Joshua Palmer's coming back this week, right, Curtis Samuel, he

1150
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 11: needed to start performing better. I thought coming to the

1151
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 11: season like I was gonna see more of Elajah more, right,

1152
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 11: and I haven't seen it. So, I mean they still

1153
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 11: have guys that nobody has really. I mean, they've been

1154
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 11: around the league and people up sawing, but in this office,

1155
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,560
Speaker 11: let's try to get those guys involved.

1156
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: The passing game is gonna have to change to some

1157
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: degree this week because you're probably not gonna have Kinkaid

1158
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: here is nursing a rib injury. This passing game has

1159
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 2: largely gone through those two guys, right, one of them

1160
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna have, and the other one might

1161
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 2: be a little gimpy. You better have other answers this

1162
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: week in the passing game.

1163
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 11: You might see more of Tynn James Cook in the game.

1164
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 11: I mean that could be a possibility, right.

1165
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: I've been talking about throwing to the backs more for

1166
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 2: the last three weeks.

1167
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 4: Backs have been hoping all week.

1168
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: You're not, you know what you need down the field

1169
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: or at the third level. Use the backs in the

1170
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: passing game as an extension of your run game. It

1171
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: just looks different. And you got them out in space already.

1172
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 2: And I mean that's when the last time we saw

1173
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 2: a wheel ring Cooks was.

1174
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 4: Ran a couple of wheel routes or in the flat routes. Yeah,

1175
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: this Miami.

1176
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we caught some check down.

1177
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 4: You caught some checkdowns.

1178
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 11: But but I think you still need those type of

1179
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 11: plays in an office because you're not throwing the ball

1180
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,479
Speaker 11: down fear and ken Kaid is going to be out

1181
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 11: again probably, So yeah, it's uh, it's up in the air. Look,

1182
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 11: start making some plays, that's it. And don't turn the

1183
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 11: ball over. I mean, seriously, seriously, I mean start breaking

1184
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 11: some tackles. Man, I have no idea what it is.

1185
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 11: You know, catch a hitch and take your seventy five yards.

1186
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 11: I have no idea what it is.

1187
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 2: But Shakira has a couple of those this year.

1188
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I'm with you.

1189
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm still I still like these guys. I'm kind of

1190
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: like and I don't think that's just lip service. Certainly, Brandon,

1191
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: It's been reported and true. He was on the phone

1192
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: trying to get some guys and make them better at

1193
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: the deadline and had a deal, you know, and and

1194
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: they got stabbed in the back, and you know, ownership

1195
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: stepped in, wouldn't do it the whole thing.

1196
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 4: Well, that's good that nobody wants to trade with you, because.

1197
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: So I still think they do believe they can do

1198
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: it with the guys they got in the room if

1199
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: they can get them healthy. Now, certainly D's off the table,

1200
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: and so at least until playoffs, Hoyt's done that. You know,

1201
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: those two guys are crusher because that would really change things,

1202
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,919
Speaker 1: not just for their pass rush, but on the back

1203
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: end of the defense as well. So I think they're

1204
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to battle with that the rest of the way.

1205
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: But I still do I'm still high on what this

1206
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: team can do and what it's got under the hood offensively,

1207
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: but they do have to tap in on it.

1208
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 2: Bucky Irving is a is a maybe maybe this week.

1209
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 2: He just started practicing on a limited base yesterday. Has

1210
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: missed the last five games the shoulder and foot injuries.

1211
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: It's not looking great for Godwin, but he's limited in

1212
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 2: practice as well with a fibular injury. Are you familiar

1213
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: with Bucky Irvings game to something like a little bit,

1214
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: He's pretty dynamic and you want to talk about somebody

1215
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 2: that breaks tackles, that guy does.

1216
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, he does.

1217
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: And knowing how the Bills are still trying to fit

1218
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: their run defense together, if he plays, that could be

1219
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: an issue.

1220
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 4: Could be an issue.

1221
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 11: I mean it's been it's been an issue really since

1222
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 11: the first game of the season. No, I mean, we

1223
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 11: get these teams that have they got a decent back

1224
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 11: and a pretty physical offensive line. I mean we got

1225
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 11: some youngsters up front too that haven't been that was

1226
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 11: pushed into this situation.

1227
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean this Tampa, they're gonna run.

1228
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 11: They're gonna want to run the football, and they're gonna

1229
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 11: want to stop our running game because I think that's

1230
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 11: how a defense is built. So no, I've always liked

1231
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 11: Bucky Man and uh so, uh yes, Hoby stays on

1232
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 11: the sideline, but yeah, he's a burner. He can take

1233
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 11: it to that He's like cook, he can take it

1234
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 11: to the house at anywhere on the football field.

1235
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1236
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those fast Oregon players.

1237
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1238
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 2: So we'll see how the rest of the week goes

1239
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 2: for him. Yesterday was just a walk through, so he

1240
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: was kind of walking through taking handoffs and stuff. It

1241
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: might be some gamesmanship by the head coach.

1242
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: We don't know Evans playing.

1243
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 2: No, he's on IR, He's on IR. Godwin's Iffy this week.

1244
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: And McMillan still is out with the neck injury that

1245
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: he got in the preseason, so they're relying on young players. Abuka,

1246
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 2: they still have Sterling Shepherd Abuka, and then they've got

1247
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: Cameron Johnson and Tez Johnson, who's that one hundred and

1248
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: sixty five pound bean pole, but he runs.

1249
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: Like a deer. Yeah.

1250
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got touch down against the Bills in the

1251
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,760
Speaker 2: preseason game back in August. I remember. So, yeah, they've

1252
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: they've they've got young guys they're relying on. Now, Kate

1253
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: Otten's not a bad time either, So and just bring.

1254
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 11: It and all list is coming. I think kind of

1255
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 11: weird forgetting. I mean, and then we got a game Thursday.

1256
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: Well on the road, on the road, and that Houston

1257
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: defense in their building.

1258
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

1259
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 2: So, I mean this is the big time.

1260
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean you.

1261
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 11: Look at I mean, you look at our schedule. I mean,

1262
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 11: it's what we got eight games left?

1263
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: Right, mm hmm.

1264
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had a we had a win at least

1265
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 4: five or six.

1266
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,840
Speaker 2: Well, Steve and I were talking about. I mean, you

1267
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 2: look at the Patriots. They play tonight against the Jets,

1268
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 2: and then they have the Bengals and the Giants and

1269
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 2: then a bye before they play the Bills. Bills have Bucks,

1270
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 2: and then they have Houston on a short week week

1271
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 2: next week. You know, So just those two alone are

1272
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 2: tougher than the next three for the.

1273
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 11: Patriots, right, So, I mean it's you want to get healthy,

1274
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 11: but I mean it's gonna be.

1275
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 4: I mean it's gonna be. It's gonna be a dog fight.

1276
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 2: You probably have to win the next four going into

1277
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 2: the Patriots game.

1278
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, have a shot at him.

1279
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, you may still be trailing them.

1280
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 4: I could still be trailing them all the way to

1281
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 4: that point.

1282
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: But then they have Baltimore after they've got Buffalo. From Buffalo,

1283
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: You're hoping the Ravens need that game because they're still

1284
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: playing a little bit of catchup.

1285
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 11: So yeah, it's uh, yeah, it's a tough It's gonna

1286
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,360
Speaker 11: be a tough week.

1287
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 7: Man.

1288
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be in the on the field against

1289
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo for Cincinnati the other time they play. Really, so yeah,

1290
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: his armor is good and ready to go.

1291
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 11: Foot there was the problem he got to top notch receiver,

1292
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 11: just throw it up to him, right. So yeah, but hey,

1293
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 11: man look like her and Mel would say, that's why

1294
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 11: you play the game.

1295
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: Figure out who's ready.

1296
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 11: And who's not, and what do you need to do

1297
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 11: to do different to win football games.

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Speaker 4: That's what this league is all about. It's what it's

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Speaker 4: built on.

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Speaker 11: And hey, look we we still have one of the

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Speaker 11: better players in the National Football League and Josh Allen.

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Speaker 11: We still got James Cook. Other guys need to step up.

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Speaker 11: That's that's basically it. Not for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 11: but maybe for just one game or two games until

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Speaker 11: we get healthier. I don't know who the backups are

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Speaker 11: what's going on now, but no, it's Hey, we've seen

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Speaker 11: Cole Bishop step up.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about the guys on the back

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Speaker 2: of young kids, you know, Max Harris, Yeah, Jordan Hancock's getting.

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Speaker 11: Hancocks getting a lot of playing time, right, Yeah, a

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Speaker 11: little bit more so, Hey, they're getting better on the

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Speaker 11: back end, which could be in our favor if they're

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Speaker 11: doing a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: If they can be anywhere close.

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Speaker 11: To like Jordan Party and Michael I were years seven

1316
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 11: to eight years here, getting to that level, that would

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 11: be great. So you have that the back end, you

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Speaker 11: got the middle in, but now's not healthy. I I

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Speaker 11: saw a play where he was limping like he was

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Speaker 11: kind of struggling running, and I think it's still from

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01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 11: that hamstring. Right, Yeah, he's that he heard it in.

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 11: He heard it in training camp. Right, Is this the

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01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:10,440
Speaker 11: same hamstring?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So we just need to get some guys healthy.

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Speaker 11: I know that because I know these guys want to

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Speaker 11: play well. They want to go out and do a

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Speaker 11: great job man, because they know that the city around

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 11: here is behind them, and we just want to see

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01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 11: him do well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah them, Thanks for stopping him. Appreciate it as always, yep.

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Speaker 2: Be at the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I gotta go ahead and try to find

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Speaker 4: my boy Baker.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some ok Kilahoma Okie State love. You don't

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Speaker 2: see that very often.

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Speaker 4: I won't see anything about Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, all right, appreciate it as always, therm. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the game on Sunday. That's the Hall of Famer Therma

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Speaker 2: Thomas joining us. We'll get back to the phones when

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Speaker 2: we return here on a Thursday edition of One Bill's

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Speaker 2: from Mark, who says, Marv Levy is a veteran who

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Speaker 2: served in World War Two. What was your favorite Marv

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Speaker 2: story or slogan he used to inspire the team? Thank

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Speaker 2: you for your service, Marv.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, Marv came in one time when we're a

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01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: good team and there was a lot of X but

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Speaker 1: there was a stretch of the season where it was

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Speaker 1: going to be three really good teams and they were

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Speaker 1: all on the road in a row in succession. The

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Speaker 1: schedule worked out that way. You know. We always have

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Speaker 1: these conversations in the offseason about the schedule, how it's

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Speaker 1: going to be, and where it was one of those years,

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Speaker 1: and Marv comes in before we go to the first

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Speaker 1: preseason game preseason on that first road trip for those

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Speaker 1: three that stretch of three games. He comes in on

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Speaker 1: that Monday, it says, listen, we got these three games.

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Speaker 1: This is what the narrative is. People have been talking

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Speaker 1: about it because let me tell you a story. And

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Speaker 1: he starts in on this. In nineteen thirty seven or

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Speaker 1: thirty eight, Germany had the greatest war machine the world

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Speaker 1: has ever known. It was the best trained soldiers, it

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Speaker 1: was the highest technology available at the time. It was

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Speaker 1: well it was led by experts in warfare. The German

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01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 1: high command was absolutely top notching their strategic advantage. It

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Speaker 1: was backed by an entire nation well funded. It was

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Speaker 1: just an absolute machine, and it was something the world

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Speaker 1: had never known. He said, but that was in nineteen

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Speaker 1: thirty eight or something, whatever he said. And he said,

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Speaker 1: but in nineteen forty three, Berlin was in ruins, bombed

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Speaker 1: to the ground, and it was in rubble, and the

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Speaker 1: country itself didn't exist as it as it did. And

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Speaker 1: he said, and you know why, And of course we're

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Speaker 1: sitting there football players and you know nineteen We're like, no,

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Speaker 1: why and he said, because Hitler couldn't win on the road,

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Speaker 1: chiefly in Russia. Right, So yeah, it was in Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's in like February of forty three, when you know,

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Speaker 1: Russia got the sixth Army of Germany and surrounded and

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Speaker 1: surrounded and that was it. And once that happened, then

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Speaker 1: it was all over for Germany. It was just a

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Speaker 1: question of time. And you know, the Allies took Berlin

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Speaker 1: and it was all over. That was Marv's and he

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Speaker 1: was notorious, a notorious historian, and used it a lot

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Speaker 1: to his advantage like that, and it did. It stuck

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Speaker 1: with me, obviously, because I'm hearing in decades later recounting

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Speaker 1: this analogy of why Hitler lost World War Two because

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Speaker 1: he couldn't went on the road.

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Speaker 2: I still I think I was at the press conference

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Speaker 2: when he said, somebody asked him about a big game

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Speaker 2: you guys had coming up, and they asked, is this

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Speaker 2: a must win? He goes, no, it's not a must win.

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Speaker 2: World War Two was a must win.

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Speaker 1: He was great, He's great, just he was just an

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Speaker 1: absolute great communicator. His his intellect was as sharp as attack,

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Speaker 1: got a great sense of humor, and he was he's

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Speaker 1: obviously he used his gifts to great advantage. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: one of these tall, big intimidating guy, you know. He

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Speaker 1: wasn't a Bill Parcell's presence or a John Madden presence

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. But he was a communicator and a leader,

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Speaker 1: and he was the kind of human being we all

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Speaker 1: aspired to be, full of integrity and honesty and good

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Speaker 1: humor and well loved and smart. He was, you know,

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Speaker 1: and his vision was one we all wanted to join

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Speaker 1: in with. And that's you know, that's how he taught

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Speaker 1: us what real leadership was. It was being the kind

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Speaker 1: of human being people wanted to join forces with.

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Speaker 2: So that is excuse me, mister tasker. Can I get

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Speaker 2: back to the phones though? At eighth three five fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight a eighty five fifty two five point fifty. Uh.

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Speaker 2: We do want to remind you, though, that the Bills

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Speaker 2: game isn't the only exciting thing happening in Orchard Park

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Speaker 2: this weekend. Coming out to Total Sports Buffalo this Saturday,

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Speaker 2: But back to the phones we go, and to Steve

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Speaker 2: in Amherst. What's up, Steve?

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 7: What I saw was.

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01:14:53,800 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 13: Josh Allen dropping back with an empty back Jill, and

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01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 13: that worried me because Josh was not able to do

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01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 13: as well as I hoped with an empty backfield. So

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01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:16,760
Speaker 13: I see the receivers are being covered, so we get

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,560
Speaker 13: the million of anilli and we get that short pass.

1437
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:27,680
Speaker 13: But also defensively, I was hoping because we're done playing

1438
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 13: boso with one hand and being injured so bad that

1439
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 13: maybe they privately would say, Okay, we got a problem

1440
01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 13: with our defensive line due to depletion of injury factors here,

1441
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 13: so why not maybe try to get a little bit

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 13: ten to fifteen percent of our place and blitz and

1443
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:58,600
Speaker 13: try to get something going momentum wise. And that's it

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Speaker 13: with me.

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01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm clear, all right, wants more blitzing on defense to

1446
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 2: kickstart the momentum, maybe, right, Steve, I mean sure, you

1447
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: want to do it, go ahead. I think this is

1448
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: a defensive system that's predicated on getting pressure with their

1449
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: front four. If they are really struggling in a particular

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01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:29,560
Speaker 2: game to accomplish that, they will call blitzes if necessary,

1451
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 2: and unfortunately, the pass rush was rounding into form between

1452
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 2: the Carolina and the Kansas City game, not coincidentally, when

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: Hoyt and Ogan Jobe got back in the lineup in

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Speaker 2: those two games. In those two games, they had ten

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01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 2: sacks and twenty four quarterback hits. And then Hoyt pops's achilles.

1456
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Speaker 2: He's out for the year, and you lose an energy player,

1457
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 2: a catalyst for the pass.

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01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:01,799
Speaker 1: Run after having lost another energy player and had all yeah.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's what's working against you there, and you

1460
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: know they adopt the next guy up mentality. But at

1461
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: the at its crux, the NFL is a match up

1462
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 2: league and you need talented players to match up, and

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01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,759
Speaker 2: on defense, the Bills are shorthanded in terms of those

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Speaker 2: players that give you a match up advantage, and they're

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: just gonna have to do the best they can with

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Speaker 2: who they've got.

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Speaker 1: It seems right now that the Bills individually, you know

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01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: they can do the best you can expect. Really is like,

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01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: let's hold our own individual Like, if they're going to

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01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: match up with me, I got to hold my own

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Speaker 1: and help, you know, hope somebody else can come help.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a rally to the football. This

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01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 1: last week we saw a ton of mistackles as well.

1474
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 1: There's a big there's a lot of conversation after the

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 1: Miami game about that, and rightfully so, like, if you

1476
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: can fix that, you go a long way towards playing

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Speaker 1: a little bit better defensively as well. Mistackle are Yeah,

1478
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: that's hard to overcome, and they didn't overcome it this

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: last weekend. It ultimately was what did them in even

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01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: though they went into the fourth quarter sixteen to nothing.

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Speaker 1: Mistackles were the problem for the defense, really the main

1482
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: problem I thought for the defense through three quarters of

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: Bills are still top ten in pressure rate. You know,

1485
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 2: they've got twenty five sacks on the season in nine games,

1486
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 2: so that's almost three a game. They blitz twenty one

1487
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 2: percent of the time, which is about the twenty second

1488
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,360
Speaker 2: highest rate in the league. So they don't blitz a

1489
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 2: lot and they're still getting production twenty five sacks, twenty

1490
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 2: six quarterback knockdowns, eighty pressures, so they're doing okay. In

1491
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 2: light of the circumstances. Would they like to get the

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01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 2: quarterback on the ground a little bit more, obviously, but

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01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: I think in light of who they've had and who

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: they had had in the lineup, they're not doing too bad.

1495
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: But maybe that's just me to Rick in California. Next,

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Speaker 2: what's up, Rick?

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Speaker 3: Hey, gentlemen, thank you so much taking the call, sirs. Sure, So,

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01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 3: I do have a coaching question for you to start,

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01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: and then I have a statement. But my coaching question.

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01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 3: I know day Ball is out of work now, and

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01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll be, you know, unemployed too long,

1502
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 3: but I want to call you guys last summer and

1503
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 3: talk to you about this question. What if, by chance,

1504
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,120
Speaker 3: we take Ryan day Ball and make him a co

1505
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: head coach slash offensive coordinator and make Sean McDermott the

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01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 3: co head coach slash OC because it looks like day

1507
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,640
Speaker 3: Ball could get the best out of Josh Allen that

1508
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 3: that we've seen so far and then in the past,

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01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 3: and not for nothing, but last week's game, as horrible

1510
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 3: as it was, it was not the defensive side of

1511
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 3: the ball's fault, right. I blame that loft. I do

1512
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 3: blame that lost completely on Josh Allen. And I'll tell

1513
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 3: you why if Josh Allen does not fumble that ball

1514
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 3: or just throw that end zone interception straight to the

1515
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 3: Dolphins defender, I honestly believe we win that game, you know,

1516
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,759
Speaker 3: But I believe the offense is really hindering our defense

1517
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 3: and setting them up for failure because we can't stay

1518
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 3: on the field and sustain him and our guys are

1519
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 3: just so gassed. And I don't I don't even hold

1520
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 3: the defense liable for those two breakoff runs at the

1521
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 3: end of the game because our offense put him in

1522
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 3: that position. So I think our defense is okay, but

1523
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 3: I think our offense and Josh Allen is definitely getting

1524
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 3: hamstrung by the play calling. I don't know if it's

1525
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 3: Joe Brady or not, but I know if we had

1526
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 3: dable back to kind of bleed in his ear and

1527
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 3: scream him like he did, we'll get the best performance

1528
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:42,920
Speaker 3: again out of Josh Allen while the years he's still

1529
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: healthy and we can get the most out of him.

1530
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,599
Speaker 3: But right now, I don't know what it is with him.

1531
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: He's definitely whenever he gets frustrated at all, and he

1532
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 3: turns into, oh my gosh, I gotta put the cape gun.

1533
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 3: Josh Allen. It goes one of two ways, either horrific

1534
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 3: or you know, awesome, but without you know, kind of

1535
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 3: the talking into his ear and the intensity.

1536
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 4: Whenever you see.

1537
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: Josh Allen go to the sideline, all you ever see

1538
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 3: is him slam his helmet down and slap on his

1539
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 3: baseball cap and he's not getting in anybody's face or

1540
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 3: trying to rap people up. I need to see more

1541
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 3: of that from Josh Allen. So I just want to

1542
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: know what you guys think about the day ball thing

1543
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 3: and in the hindrance of the Josh Allen. And one

1544
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 3: more question, is there any way do you think does

1545
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: Josh Allen ever get to call his own plays, like

1546
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 3: maybe before a series of the game or something, to

1547
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 3: the coaches say this is your series, go ahead and

1548
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 3: call it like you see it, and let's see what happens.

1549
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 13: What do you think, guys?

1550
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: All right, right, thanks Rick, Thanks for a lot in there.

1551
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: I don't think he does call his own plays very much,

1552
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 2: if at all. I think there are options within plays,

1553
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 2: because usually he gets two in his headset, especially when

1554
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 2: they're doing the RPO stuff, and sometimes he can call

1555
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: his own number there. But outside of that, I don't

1556
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 2: think he does. It's largely called by the ocean, you know.

1557
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 2: And then as far as riling people up, Steve talked

1558
01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: about this earlier this week. Talked about it earlier this week.

1559
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: If you have to get teammates and as a coach,

1560
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 2: you have to get players juiced up to play, you

1561
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 2: don't have the right players on your team. As Steve

1562
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 2: has said many times, it's got to come from within.

1563
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 2: It takes an awful lot of self motivation just to

1564
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: get to this level of football. And once you're here,

1565
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,080
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be taking it out of gear and loafing

1566
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: on a game. So if it takes a lot to

1567
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 2: get you going, that's on you, not on your teammates,

1568
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: not on your coaches, not on anybody else. You get

1569
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: paid a lot of money to perform.

1570
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, and you can hang the loss last

1571
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 1: week in Miami on Josh if you want. He's got

1572
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 1: big shoulders, he can take it. But he's out there

1573
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:53,599
Speaker 1: trying to win. If he's he wasn't, and you know,

1574
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: fumbling the ball, the ball got punched down of the

1575
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: quarterback sneak. We've talked about the turnovers. We absolutely put

1576
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: I put probably more than than anybody else on the

1577
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 1: losses of these this year to the turnovers, and if

1578
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: you're the guy that turns it over, yeah, okay, take

1579
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,680
Speaker 1: the loss. Then that's what you sign up for as

1580
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback. You can blame him for that. But if

1581
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me that this offense is the reason

1582
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: that this team, whatever you're telling me about the offense,

1583
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: you're telling me you're not blaming the defense for the Listen,

1584
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: the offense is the engine of this team. You can

1585
01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 1: say what you want about this game last week. The

1586
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: offense is the engine of this team. The defense had

1587
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: a nice game this last week, no question about it.

1588
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: And I said the exact same thing you did about

1589
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 1: their performance last week. I thought it was way above

1590
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 1: what we could have expected from them, and they they

1591
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 1: were gassed in those last two long runs, no question

1592
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: about it. And it was the turnovers that did that

1593
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,559
Speaker 1: to the offense, not allowing them to put points on

1594
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 1: the board to give the defense a chance or a

1595
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: cushion to play or a lead to play with and

1596
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 1: put some pressure back on the Miami offense. It's something

1597
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: we've talked about, but to say that this season that

1598
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 1: they're six and three because of their defense. That is

1599
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:06,879
Speaker 1: a stretch. That's a stretch.

1600
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:11,599
Speaker 2: We are gonna step aside and take a break. We'll

1601
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,639
Speaker 2: try to get you an update on how Thursday's practice

1602
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 2: looked out there now that the eyes and ears are

1603
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 2: in from the media viewing portion of practice, and we'll

1604
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: have an update on Bucks practice as well. Some interesting

1605
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 2: developments there. We'll pass those along to you when we

1606
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: get back here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

1607
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:46,479
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, So practice updates here

1608
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: from today. Defensive tackle Federian Mathis and tight end Dalton

1609
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: Kincaid both not practicing again today, so their status looking

1610
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 2: very much in doubt for Sunday's game against the Bucks.

1611
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir is practicing again today but remains in a

1612
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 2: red non contact jersey. He's dealing with a rib injury,

1613
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: so we'll have to see where that goes tomorrow, and

1614
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 2: if he's still in a red non contact jersey, it's

1615
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: probably headed for a questionable designation. Could be a game

1616
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: time decision type of deal, but we'll have to wait

1617
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: and see tomorrow and hear from coach McDermott as well

1618
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 2: on that front, and then as far as the Bucks

1619
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:31,080
Speaker 2: are concerned. Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin participating in practice

1620
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 2: again today, and it is not a walkthrough today, it's

1621
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: more of a real practice, So we'll have to see

1622
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 2: where that goes, and if those two can return to

1623
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 2: the lineup, the offense becomes infinitely more potent. And then

1624
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 2: two starters not practicing for the Bucks again today. They

1625
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: missed yesterday, they missed again today, starting guard Ben Brettison

1626
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 2: and starting edge rusher Hassan Reddick. So those are the

1627
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: guys not getting on the practice field today and we'll

1628
01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: see what the day as ignations are for Irving in

1629
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 2: god When, whether they're limited or full go, we'll have

1630
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,000
Speaker 2: to wait and see. Wanted to take a look at

1631
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet before we're done for the day. Who

1632
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 2: are you looking to step up against the Bucks with

1633
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 2: an inspired performance to help them get a victory on Sunday?

1634
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: And tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

1635
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,960
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills. Connor

1636
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 2: says Joe Brady, the offense needs to get going. The

1637
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 2: struggles we have consistently seen are very alarming. Joshua Palmer

1638
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 2: coming back will have a big impact. But at some point,

1639
01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Robert says, if we already assume that Dalton Kincaid will

1640
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,720
Speaker 2: be out, then it must be Dawson Knox. He has

1641
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 2: shown ability to get opened in the past, even on

1642
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: some downfield routes, so he will need to step back

1643
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 2: into that role once again and then believer says Hawes

1644
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 2: and Hairston. With Harston getting at least one offensive snap,

1645
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 2: I can keep manifesting it. Okay, people are obsessed with that.

1646
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: It's like the third or fourth person we've heard suggesting that.

1647
01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: They seem track the ball as a dB. They it's

1648
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's all there, you go. That's that's

1649
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:04,880
Speaker 1: where the conversation started. They're not gonna let it go.

1650
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:13,880
Speaker 1: That'll that will linger for out throughout until he's yeah, yeah,

1651
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: until he's middle aged.

1652
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 2: Joe Joe on the tweets sheet says. The coaching staff

1653
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Fair the Showtime says, if I'm being honest, it's Alan.

1654
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: He needs to be the guy we've seen him be

1655
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 2: the last several years. He's been fine so far, but

1656
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 2: he needs to play better. If we aren't going to

1657
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 2: improve as an offense, Christine says, Ray Davis, I haven't

1658
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: seen a lot of Ray Davis this year. He had

1659
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 2: a touchdown in the Atlanta game, and that's about it.

1660
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: Ken says, Bernard got to have better play out of

1661
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:54,440
Speaker 2: our middle linebacker slash captain, and then Robbie says, Josh

1662
01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 2: let him get that initial hit out of the way

1663
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 2: to get the jitters out. Seems like we've gotten away

1664
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 2: from that. I remember Josh saying he prefers it. Also,

1665
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,519
Speaker 2: is there some rule that says they can't have a

1666
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,839
Speaker 2: water fight on the sideline to cool off in Miami

1667
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,920
Speaker 2: Super Soakers go bills. Yeah, you're not allowed to use

1668
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:18,360
Speaker 2: anything to enhance the comfort level of your players if

1669
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 2: the team on the other bench doesn't have access to

1670
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: the same stuff. That's the NFL rule for that. As

1671
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, if we had a cold game

1672
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 2: up here and Buffalo's heated bench cocked out and wasn't

1673
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 2: working anymore, the visiting team would have to turn their

1674
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 2: heated bench off if it was working to even the sides,

1675
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: so to speak. That's how fine they cut it.

1676
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: Which was a problem because if Miami's sideline is in

1677
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,800
Speaker 1: the shade, they don't need the misters, right.

1678
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 2: The misters were on both sidelines last week. I found

1679
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: that interesting because I couldn't remember the last time I

1680
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: saw that, but there it was so pretty interesting. And

1681
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 2: I think based on player availability, this game could get

1682
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: even more interesting by the time we get to Sunday,

1683
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 2: especially if Bucky Irving and Chris Godwin return for the

1684
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay offense. Obviously, Joshua Palmer looks like he's going

1685
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 2: to return for the Bills, but it seems like whenever

1686
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: they get a player back, they lose another player, and

1687
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: it's looking unlikely that Kincaid is going to play on

1688
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Sunday with that hamstring injury, which usually takes at least

1689
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 2: a week anyway, Hamstring injuries are tough to come back from,

1690
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:35,599
Speaker 2: especially in football. With all the high intensity running, stop

1691
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 2: and start that you do on every single play. It's

1692
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: just not conducive to a hamstring injury. That's it for

1693
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 2: us today, Steve and I'll be back tomorrow. Don't forget.

1694
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: Get your questions into the OBL Friday fan mail bag

1695
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 2: and we'll check in. As always. The senior producer from

1696
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,280
Speaker 2: NFL Films, Great co Sell. We'll see it one