1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: There's Charles Tufy, Chuck Bryant. He's on his iPhone. Chuck, 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, uh that makes this stuff you should know? 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: Huh the fully attentive podcast. You're saying, Yeah, I can't 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: really say anything. You always say stuff and then I 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: repeat it like thirty seconds later and then get a 8 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: look of death from Chuck. We'd like to cover our 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: basis twice. Sometimes it's important stuff like you know, um, 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: the digestion. That's right, good thing which comes out next? Right? 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: All right? Introman, Oh, I'm sorry? Am I am I stalling? Yeah? Okay, frankly, Chuck, 12 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: have you ever heard of a methuselah? Trust? No, but 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: of something being old? Uh, well you're not old. Instead, 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: a say, a bequeathment grant that you've put in a 15 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: an account earning compound interest for five hundred or a 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: thousand or a hundred years, should conceivably, were it's still legal, 17 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: grow into a staggering amount of money, very like, very quickly. 18 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: For example, Um, there was a guy who you might 19 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: have heard of named Ben Franklin Benny Ben Franklin Uh 20 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: in his will left a thousand pounds each to the 21 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: city of Boston in the city of Philadelphia, both of 22 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: which he considered his hometowns UM and these these monies 23 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: were meant to stay in a private trust that earned 24 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: compound interests, and by Franklin's reckoning, um within so after 25 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: a hundred years in eighteen nine that it was supposed 26 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: to be cracked open, a bit was supposed to be 27 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: taken out, and then the rest was supposed to be 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: left in until nine years after his death. So by 29 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: his reckoning it would each city would get about the 30 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: equivalence six million dollars apiece UH by nine, which is 31 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: when it was supposed to and and finally mature. UM. 32 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: It didn't quite work out. Franklin's calculations didn't take into 33 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: account lawsuits to stop this, to stop the idea of 34 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: him enthuselah trust in general, UM, trustees, fees, lawyers, fees, 35 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff. So what it came down to was 36 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: about three and a half million each. So he's off 37 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the market a little bit. But he made his point, 38 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: which was, if you put a grand in and you 39 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: have enough foresight, you can give some money to the 40 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: city of Boston. Did that really happen? Yeah, they got there, 41 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: They got their three and a half mill Yeah each 42 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: townded Um. What this demonstrate is probably more than anything, though, 43 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: is that Franklin was, above all else, an idea man. Right. 44 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: He was pretty good. I mean, he invented spectacles. He 45 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: had like some really good uh some good inventions under 46 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: his belt, the electric kite. But more than anything else, 47 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: he was all about ideas. And he was more aware 48 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: than anybody that his ideas weren't always he didn't see 49 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: him through to fruition all the time. Not not all 50 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: ideas were meant to be. But another good example of 51 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: that is his idea for daylight savings time. He was 52 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: the guy that came up with this saving daylight saving time. 53 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: I think most people say savings, but it is in 54 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: fact saving. But we're gonna mess up and say savings. 55 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, just prepare for that, s people. Franklin was 56 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: an ambassador to France, which is a pretty crushed job 57 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: back then. I'm sure the Enlightenment. Come on, it's his 58 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,559 Speaker 1: job now. Um. Woke up one morning all this uh 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: fellow Parisians were sleeping and he said, hey, we should 60 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: change the time and get these people up earlier. Did 61 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: he talk like he was from Jersey. He basically proposed 62 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: it in an article, but it's generally dismissed his satire. 63 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: But it wasn't a real idea, right. His whole idea 64 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: was to um that basically everybody was like sleeping in 65 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: light while it was still daylight and then staying up 66 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: late long after sunset. It was a waste of daylight. 67 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: A great way to fix this is to say, let's 68 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: get everybody up at the crack of dawn, and we'll 69 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: do that by shooting off cannons that wake everybody up. 70 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: It was sort of a jab at the French, a 71 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 1: friendly jab. Well, he was a friend of the French, 72 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: but like I said, generally dismissed his satire. Not really 73 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: like the seed of the idea for daylight saving. No. 74 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: But other people about a hundred or so years later 75 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: came up with similar things and they meant it. And 76 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: it's I don't know if we can say that Franklin 77 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: didn't mean it, but he was just he He didn't 78 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: think it was a very important idea necessary, but it's 79 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: so ingrained in our society here in the United States, 80 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: here in North America, and most likely if you're listening 81 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: to this in Europe or Australia. You know what we're 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: talking about all over the world. Really, um that it 83 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: You're you're kind of like, oh yeah, daylight savings. I mean, 84 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: it's peculiar, but of course we're gonna do it. Of 85 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: course it makes sense. Um, these this is from people 86 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: who really can't even tell you whether it's spring forward 87 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: or fall back. So let's let's set that straight right now, 88 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: because I think if we just stopped there and said 89 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: it is spring forward where you said the clock forward 90 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: an hour, and it's fall back where you said the 91 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: clock back an hour, we've just done a tremendous public service. 92 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: People really not remember that. I'm among them. Really, yeah, 93 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: I will always remember it now because I've studied this article. 94 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: But no, I always had trouble with it. Well, that's 95 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: why they say spring forward, fall back. You can also 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: fall forward and spring back. You can't spring back. I 97 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: can't hold on, Josh, Josh, just sprung back, sprung back. 98 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: All right, Well, here's the other public service announcement here 99 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: in the US. Second Sunday in March. You're gonna spring 100 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: forward the first Sunday in November, you're gonna fall back. 101 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: I didn't know that, because every year I'm on the 102 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: internet's going, well, when do we do this? When do 103 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: we do it? I didn't. I thought it fluctuated. Second 104 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: Sunday in March, first Sunday in November. Boom. Yeah, I 105 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: thought it fluctuated as well too. It's yeah, um, it's 106 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: standard now thanks to a lot of UM legislation that's 107 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: taken place over the over the years here in the 108 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: United States. UM. Most recently, the Energy Policy Act of 109 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: two thousand five set the rules as you just described them. Right. 110 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: We should also say, chuck to our friends in South America, 111 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: you have the opposite. We're not exactly sure when it 112 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: starts for you, but we can tell you that you 113 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: do spring forward and fall back. No, fall forward and 114 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: spring back, because it's the the seasons are the opposite. 115 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: So they go on to daylight savings time in the 116 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: fall and then change it. They go off of it 117 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: in the spring. And also one more thing, uh, daylight 118 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: saving time, right is not? I find it confusing in 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: that the mind wants to say it's it's like daylight 120 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: time saving it's like daylight saving time, right, like your 121 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: time saving but really it's daylight saving time, so it's 122 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: like a period of the year. So I've always had 123 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: trouble wrapping my mind around how they're just saving daylight. 124 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Everything about this is so confounding. I know, because I'm 125 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: one of those people that's like what the clock says 126 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: is arbitrary in a way. Unless you have a shift job, Um, 127 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: you would have made a great farmer. Yeah. That's kind 128 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: of bunk too from what I hear. Okay, so let's 129 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: talk about this, man Um. You just gave the deets 130 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: on when to do it. Um. In the United States, 131 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: it's the Energy Policy Act of two thousand five that 132 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: establishes that. But if you are Arizona or Hawaii or 133 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: Guam and you say, I don't want this to apply 134 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: to me already feel cut off enough from this country, Um, 135 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: from the rest of the world. I'm going to apply 136 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: for an exemption. You're probably gonna get it. Yeah. Indiana 137 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: has had a mixed history with daylight saving Uh. They've 138 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of fluctuated back and forth over the years, and 139 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: at times only some counties had it and some didn't, 140 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: And they finally went all in I think so recently. Yeah, 141 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: if you're an Indiana, you know what I'm talking about. Um, 142 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: And it's not just the United States. Apparently, as a 143 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, seventy six countries observed daylight savings time. 144 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: They also seventy, but I don't know which sources newer, 145 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: so we'll go with seventy to seventy six. Just after 146 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: reading this, I could see six countries falling. Yeah, I 147 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: mean it's a very it's a surprisingly contentious thing setting 148 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 1: the clock back an hour basically. I saw one source 149 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: that calls it the arrogance of humanity to to set 150 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: time period. Yeah, well no, to adjust the clock. It's 151 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: like it is now two and not one, right exactly, 152 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: And it is a little bit loony if you think 153 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I think Japan, India, and China are 154 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: the only major industrialized nations who do not observe. And 155 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 1: it's getting more and more difficult to to um be 156 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: a country like that in this globalized world to not 157 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: daylight savings something. I mean, it's kind of problematic. Sure, yeah, 158 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: imagine the that's why most countries do it now, well 159 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: not most, but a lot. So Europe has long observed 160 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: what's called summertime. Um. But it wasn't until that the 161 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: EU said hey, let's all just stop this patchwork thing. 162 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: Here's the standards now, um and it's uh. The European 163 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: Union says it runs from daylight saving time, the time 164 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: of daylight saving summertime. Yeah, it's the last Sunday in 165 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: March to the last Sunday in October. That's the the EU. Yeah, 166 00:10:33,760 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: good for them. No. Um. We you mentioned earlier that 167 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: another couple of guys that proposed this. Um. One of 168 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: them was a New Zealander named George Vernon Hudson, and 169 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: he was actually the first dude to genuinely propose this, 170 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: and he gets overlooked a lot of time by the 171 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: other guy we'll talk about. But Hudson was an entomologist 172 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: and astronomer and he had a shift job that allowed 173 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: him I guess he worked at night because allowed him 174 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: extra daylight hours that his friends weren't getting. He go 175 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: out and hunt for bugs and he was like this 176 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: is great. He's like, we ought to really try and 177 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: do this. But William Willett of England is the guy 178 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: that a lot of people credit with it, and I 179 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: think it's because it was kind of his passion in life, 180 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: Like he really really tried to get this push through. Yeah, 181 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: he was an avid golfer. And his whole premise for 182 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: it was that it would extend time for leisure after work, 183 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: after everybody got done working for the day, they're still 184 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: daylight hours. The links um. And he wrote a pamphlet 185 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: that's online. It's called The Waste of Daylight. It's online 186 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: and its entirety if you search that um. And he 187 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: lobbied the House of Commons to institute this, and in 188 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: nineteen o eight they officially said nah. But he kept 189 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: lobbying him until his death. And I think the twenties 190 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: died in nineteen fifteen actually, so he did not get 191 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: to see it because a year later, insultingly enough, a 192 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: year later it was it was brought on in England 193 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: thanks to a little something called World War One. Yeah, 194 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: and actually it was Germany that was the first country 195 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: to ever institute daylight savings time. Yeah. They called it 196 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: wartime though, Yeah, so did FDR later on. Yeah. Um, 197 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: but the Germans, the Germans started it. The English quickly 198 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: saw the value and it and they started it. And 199 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: it was all the preserved coal supplies during the war, um, 200 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: because if you or were up earlier, you'd be tired 201 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: earlier and you wouldn't stay up as late earning precious 202 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: coal needed to pound the Kaiser into oblivion. That's right. 203 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: And uh, a lot of a lot of nations got 204 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: on board because of World War One, thirty one in total, 205 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: including the US, and then World War Two. Well after 206 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: the war, I think most of these countries got rid 207 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: of it. It was just for war. And then World 208 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: War two came around, the same thing happened, but in 209 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: more abundance. Fifty two nations this time. Right in the 210 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: US actually kept daylight savings year round for three full 211 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: years uninterrupted, from what is it February September. And apparently 212 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: FDR he called it wartime too. He had no problem 213 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: with it. He was just going to leave it like 214 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: that indefinitely. Um. And he finally acquiesced to farmers, which, um, 215 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: if you know much about farmers at that era, they 216 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: were really a active at striking, overturning like um scab trucks, 217 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: and like dealing with communists and like being pro communist um. 218 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: And they were a force to be reckoned with. They 219 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: called it God's time did they really. Yeah, we'll talk 220 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: more about the farmers in a minute. UM. Go on. Uh, well, 221 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: we we had it for three years solid, like you said, 222 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: and then after the war they said, you know what, 223 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: you don't have to do it, but it's up to 224 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: your state if you want to keep doing this or not. 225 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: Some did, some didn't. So that's the history. Actually, no, 226 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: it keeps going in nineteen sixty six. History does keep going, 227 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: doesn't it. So the states are it's all patchwork and 228 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: everybody's just kind of doing what however they want. But 229 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: we have this thing called the Interstate system that comes about, 230 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: which links states more and more and there's more trade, 231 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: and really people need to know what time it is 232 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: in another state that they're sending stuff to UM. So 233 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: the Uniform Time Act of nineteen sixty six finally said 234 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: you guys can decide whether you want to do it, 235 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: but if you're gonna do it, you have to do 236 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: it along these guidelines. UM. And it stayed that way 237 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: uninterrupted until except for the arab Um oil embargo, where 238 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: the US said, you know, we're gonna extend the daylight 239 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: savings to UM through winter as well. Yeah, I went 240 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: from six months to eight months uh in nineteen seventy 241 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: three because they found that doing so saved the equivalent 242 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: of ten thousand barrels of oil a day in six 243 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: hundred thousand in those two years. So that's what they 244 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: said it is Is it true? Who knows about that? 245 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: Definitely up for debate. Whether it's say, ten thousand barrels 246 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: of oil a day, I'm sure it's for debate. The 247 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: weird thing about daylight savings is it's largely been intuitive 248 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: for decades. It was practiced for decades before anybody finally 249 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: put it to the test. Well, the whole point behind 250 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: it is this chuck that there are more people asleep 251 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: at sunrise and more businesses are closed at sunrise than 252 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: at sunset. So if you look at electrical demand right um, 253 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: as a whole over the course of a single day, 254 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna see in the afternoon, in the evening it 255 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: starts to peak if you take an hour. If you 256 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: take the whole day and shift it backward by an hour, 257 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: people are gonna get up earlier, and it's going to 258 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: spread that electrical demand over the day. They're also gonna 259 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: go to bed earlier, so they're gonna use lamps less 260 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna stay up less late to watch TV. UM, 261 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: so the overall demand should decrease to And this is 262 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the whole reason that daylight savings time has always been 263 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: UM kind of championed by most people. That's the whole 264 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: reason that they want you to think, Well, that's part 265 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: of it. The other is to get people outside more. Yeah. 266 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: I mean I read up on this and what I 267 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: found out was that it really comes down to money. 268 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: They want you to to spend the money more. Yeah, and 269 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: that is going to happen more if you're out and 270 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: about chopping or playing golf, exactly like the golf lobby 271 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: in eighty six, the last time before two five, then 272 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: anybody tinker with it, Reagan said in Public Law and 273 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: ninety nine he started at the first Sunday in April, 274 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: which was where before in nineteen sixty six it was 275 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: from the last Sunday in April, so a full month 276 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: he added to daylight savings time. Um. But the golf 277 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Lobby said that an extra month or an extra hour. 278 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: I think an extra month was like four million dollars 279 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: to just that industry alone. I don't know seither. Yeah, 280 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 1: money talks, uh. And the reason I say that that's 281 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: the main reason is because they've done studies and in fact, 282 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 1: in seventy three when they did the oil embargo, they 283 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: didn't just study oil barrels, they studied utilities and they 284 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: found that it's a pretty negligible difference about one percent 285 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: energy savings. But that's for the whole country. That's a lot. 286 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: That is a substantial amount of that's a lot. See 287 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: I read it's negligible. So say so, say it is 288 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: one percent, Say it is negligible, but say that it's 289 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: zero percent. If you don't do anything, you automatically have said, 290 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: well there's a there's a savings and energy, especially in 291 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: this eco conscious society that we're growing into. Um, that's 292 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: it right there, Okay, daylight saving time, do it. You 293 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: will save one percent of all the energy expended. Fine, 294 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 1: do it. It's better than not right. What else could 295 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 1: possibly go wrong? And I was very surprised from this 296 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: article to find that there's actually counter arguments todaylight saving time. Well, yeah, 297 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: because they basically I think people have challenge the studies. 298 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: That's what I've seen. In two thousand one, they did 299 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: another study the California did where they actually doubled it 300 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: to a two hour shift and in the end they 301 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: found it, uh, electricity savings of about point oh three 302 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: for the year, right, which is substantially less, But you 303 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: can also say it's still better than nothing. Why not 304 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: just do it. There's also other arguments to things like, um, 305 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: there's fewer traffic accidents in the evenings because it's lighter out, 306 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: that's what they say on the evening commute. Um, crime 307 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: is decreased because criminals preferred darkness. And if you're out 308 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: taking a walk after work and it's light out still, 309 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: you're probably not going to get mugged. Um. And then 310 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: of course the golf industry said everybody needs to get 311 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: off their rears and get outside and play more golf, 312 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: golf fever catch it, and um, they are big on 313 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: that as well. Well, I got most of my info 314 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: you should know from that Skeptward guy. Let's hear it, Dunning, Well, no, 315 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: that's what he said. He said, basically, it's all about money. 316 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: He said, don't be foolded into thinking this is some 317 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: energy plan. And he said that the numbers are suspect. 318 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: And then it really comes down to spending money as 319 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: a as a consumer. I'm sure it does. But the other. 320 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: The other aspect of it, the you know who's the 321 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: biggest against it now these days? They used to be farmers. Well, 322 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: he said, that's bunked too. He bunks everything though. So 323 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: here's the thing farmers. From what I understand it used 324 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: to be farmers. And I've seen this elsewhere that farmers 325 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: had a problem with it because daylight savings added a 326 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: day and an hour under their day. They had to 327 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: get up with the with the at the crack of dawn, 328 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: no matter what time it was. So if it was 329 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: actually if they had an extra hour, they had to 330 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: extend their business hours because they had to deal with 331 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: the public who was running on an hour later time. 332 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: So farmers hated daylight savings and they railed against it. 333 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: That's my understanding with modern technology that that where a 334 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: lot of the farm processes are automated, they don't have 335 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: to worry about the the sun time or God's time 336 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: as much. They're not as opposed to it. The problem 337 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: is with airlines now when they're flying to places that 338 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: don't have daylight savings, they apparently have a lot more 339 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: trouble getting a slot at an airport when the time 340 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: doesn't quite match up because the airport's like, we're not 341 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: going to the trouble of figuring this out. Go lobby 342 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: your government to stop screwing with time. So apparently that's 343 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: the big industry that's opposed daylight savings right now. Interesting. Yeah, um, 344 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: like I said, though, he's that's his job. He's the 345 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: skeptalid debunking. He said. The farmer thing is he thinks 346 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: is somewhat of a myth because he can't find any 347 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: He said, all the sources are the exact same and 348 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: he can't find any like origin source that he thinks 349 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: is valid. That's a that's pretty good evidence that something 350 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: is a myth. But he's trying to prove a negative. 351 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: He should be opposed to that. Maybe he is. Huh 352 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: m hm uh. There was a new study though, um 353 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: recently by a guy named Matthew Coaching. He's an economist 354 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: at cal Goberts and um, you know, I said, Indiana 355 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: has kind of been back and forth over the years, 356 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: with like half the state doing it. When they finally 357 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: went all in and oh six, he said, hey, it's 358 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: a great opportunity to check this out and study it. 359 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: And he found that it led to a one percent rise. 360 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:49,119 Speaker 1: He figured that lamp usage went down overall across the 361 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: daylight savings, but that there was a peak in energy 362 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: demand that was an increase over when you don't observe 363 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: daylight savings in the fall when it was cold in 364 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: Indiana in the form of heating, like people had their 365 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: heat went up because they weren't under the blankets as 366 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: early right as when they when they just observe standard 367 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: time year round. And that actually cost nine million dollars 368 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: for the state. Well, I think that's part of dunning 369 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: thing too, is these studies that were done in the seventies, 370 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: they didn't have you know, computers and iPods and Blu 371 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: ray players, and we have way more things besides lamps 372 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: these days to take into account, and air conditioners and 373 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: things like that. So he's saying it's kind of an 374 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: outdated there are no lamps in the seventies and outdated 375 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: model the U and daylight savings. Chuck also kind of 376 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: strikes me as like a really good example of for 377 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction, So like 378 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: there's fewer fender benders during the evening commute, But apparently 379 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: parents are also like parents groups are also a post 380 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: daylight savings in part because kids accidents involving kids waiting 381 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: for the bus in the dark or mornings increase, and 382 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: then crime goes down during the summer, but then it 383 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: increases in the fall. Now there's no there's no figures 384 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: to support that necessarily. But there's also the only study 385 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: ever conducted about how daylight savings creates a decrease in 386 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: crime was a single study of the District District of 387 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: Columbia in the seventies that found a ten percent reduction, 388 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: but no one's ever backed it up. Yeah, well, and 389 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: think about it too. Carrex are good for industries like 390 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: tow trucks and mechanics, the toe truck lobby, auto industry 391 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: that wants to sell you a new bumper. I don't know, 392 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: but it does everything. You're right, Everything hasn't an opposite reaction. 393 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: And also apparently chronobiologically, it can be very problematic for us. 394 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: So says was he German? Yeah, I didn't see his name. 395 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: He's just referred to as a German chronobiology. I couldn't 396 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: find him or her. Yeah, that's true. He or she 397 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: says that your body never even adjusts period to the 398 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: circadian rhythm and so you're just out of whack for 399 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: eight months out of the year, or I guess it 400 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: depends on which one he thinks is right. So yeah, 401 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: and the big problem is going back and back, like 402 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: going back and forth. Like if we all just said, okay, 403 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: the whole world's gonna set their clocks back one hour 404 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: forever and that will be referred to from here on 405 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: out as the hour the moment, and then we're just 406 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: gonna forget about daylight saving time, it would conceivably have 407 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: the same effect, right, but it would not have that 408 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: jet lag problem that the German chronobiologist describes. Um and 409 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: even worse, there's other people that propose um it extended 410 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: daylight savings through throughout the throughout the year or throughout 411 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: the winner as well. Right, if we did that once 412 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: eight could conceivably be fine. Our bodies could adjust. It's 413 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: going back and forth. Other people are proposed double daylight savings, 414 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: where you go back two hours, which would probably reak 415 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: havoc if are if the chronobiologist is correct, and there's 416 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: actually data that supports this idea that like our bodies 417 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: are disrupted by it, like the Swedish heart attack study. Yeah, 418 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. I never thought of it as 419 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: losing an hour though, because it happened at two am 420 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: on Sunday and I would just wake up and whatever 421 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: the clock said is what it said. Yeah, I never 422 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, I guess I don't get up 423 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: Sunday morning at seven for a shift job. No, that's 424 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: a big part of it. I saw in the consumers 425 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: some guy wanted to know about getting paid um on 426 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: because he worked at a late night on November this 427 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: past November for Sunday in November when he had an 428 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: extra hour, because there's actually twenty five hours in that day. 429 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: One one am is counted twice. Interesting, isn't that there's 430 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: a twenty five hour day that we just went through. 431 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: That's got to mess us up somehow, And it does. 432 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: The Swedish study I was referring to found that since 433 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: seven the number of heart attacks rose about five percent 434 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: during the first week of daylight savings time every year. 435 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: And then Australia, some Australians looked at some data between 436 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: nineteen and two thousand one and found that male suicides 437 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: increase um in the weeks following daylight savings time. And 438 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: they're controlling for everything else and it appears to just 439 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: be daylight savings really affects people with bipolar disorder and 440 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: they are more men are more prone. Australian men with 441 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: bipolar disorder are more prone to commit suicide in the 442 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 1: weeks immediately preceding the change over to daylight saving. That's 443 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: sad It is sad um. There have been some kind 444 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: of interesting things that happened over the years because of 445 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 1: d ST and nine nine the West Bank was on 446 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: daylight savings. Israel had just switched back to standard time. 447 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: So a group of West Bank terrorists were preparing some 448 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: time bombs, smuggled them to their counterparts in Israel, and 449 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: as they were planning the bombs, they blew up. No, yes, no, 450 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: it's what it says. Is that from skeptid No is 451 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: that from Snopes. They'll take snokes too. I think I 452 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: think that's real. Wow. I think that happened. Minneapolis and St. 453 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: Paul were on different, uh, different times in which kind 454 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: of whack things out am track. A train cannot leave 455 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: the station before it's scheduled to obviously, can't leave early 456 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: because everyone's gonna get on. So when you fall back 457 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: in October, if you're running on time, you stop and 458 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: sit there for an hour November. What I say October. 459 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: I think it used to be in October when when 460 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: this was written. So you sit there for an extra 461 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: hour if you're on amtrack on that day, that's right, 462 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: that's crazy. And then in the spring, apparently they don't 463 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: do anything but try and catch up, like everything's a 464 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: little late for a little while, and they just try 465 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: to like ride faster. Can you imagine being a low logistician. 466 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: I want to hear from logisticians. I have a deep 467 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: respect for your profession. Yeah, I agreed, that's tough stuff. 468 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: Time who knew? You know? Is it arbitrary? What the 469 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: clock says? It's just a number. I tend to go 470 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: with just the rise and fall of the sun and moon. 471 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: You know, are you kidding me? Like you could throw 472 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: away every clock in the world and nothing would really change. 473 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: And you know in uncivilized parts of the world and 474 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: the civilized world everything runs on the clock. But it's 475 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: just time. The number was invented by man. I know 476 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: what you mean. Man, you know what I'm saying, abstract. 477 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for that, Chuck. I think that was an excellent 478 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: way to kind of put everybody the sleep. You just 479 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: put them on a little cloud and went yeah. Man, 480 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, Um, if you want to learn more about clouds, 481 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: about daylight savings, time, about Chuck Brian, you can type 482 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: in those words in any search bar at how stuff 483 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: works dot com and will bring up some very cool stuff, 484 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: I assure you. Um, and I said search bar how 485 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com. That means it's time Chuck for listeners. 486 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: That's right, not listener mail. We have a contest we 487 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: have nothing to do with. Yeah, this was sprung on us, 488 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: but we like it. We're in favor of it. Yes, 489 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 1: if you are interested in coming to Atlanta, all expense 490 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: is paid. Yeah, that's the that's the kicker. Actually, I'm 491 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: not gonna say all expense is paid. Yeah, I don't 492 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: know if we should legally say that certain expenses are paid. 493 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: They'll you can come here toward the studio, hang out 494 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: in the office. We'll even go to lunch with you 495 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: with Jerry. Yeah, Jerry will be there and you'll get 496 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: to see your face like we won't make her wear 497 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: like a paper bag. You can enter this contest. Uh, 498 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: it runs now if you're in America. Yeah, yeah, we 499 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: get in the United States as always saw everyone from 500 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Canada and elsewhere that's mad about this. I can't win 501 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: your contest either. I don't think that makes anybody feel 502 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: better if you're American, if you're in the United States. 503 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: It runs through December thirty one. Winners will be announced 504 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: the week of January. One grand prize trip to Atlanta 505 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: includes one night hotel, air fare up to Bucks, and 506 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: an American Express gift card for incidentals like taking me 507 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and check out to lunch. I think we'll pick that up. Uh, 508 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: And if you refer somebody like you, you go to 509 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Facebook the house stuff works dot com not the stuff 510 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: you should know, go to the house stuff works dot 511 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: com facebook page to enter and you have to like 512 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: it and then you enter. But it's the only way 513 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: to enter as far as I know. Yeah, I think so. 514 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: But if you refer someone um and they win, I'm sorry. 515 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: After person a enters the contest, he or she can 516 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: share the contest link with friends via Facebook and Twitter, 517 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: and if a friend of their's winds, then you win 518 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: a kindle fire. That's not too shabby. Does that make sense? Yeah? 519 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: And I would. I would give you the link, but 520 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: it's like three thousand characters long. So just go to Facebook, 521 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: how Stuff Work, How Stuff Works dot com, how stuff 522 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: Works official Facebook page yea, and you will find the 523 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: information there and lunch, lunch it up with us. Yeah, 524 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: let's lunch. Let's do lunch before we go. I wanna 525 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: correct myself big time. Correct myself about patent trolls. In 526 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: the gene patents Okay episode, I mentioned patent trolls and 527 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I said they were, but 528 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: I was way off. Yea. Patentrols are people who go 529 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: around buying patents with no intent of manufacturing these things 530 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: or what the patent is for. I figured that's what 531 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: it was like buying a website domains. Sure, but then 532 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: they sue. The whole point is to own the patent 533 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: so that they can sue anybody who infringes on it. 534 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: So basically they're keeping any kind of innovation from coming 535 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: about along the same lines of what they own the 536 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: patent to by suing people who try to do it. 537 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: And they're they're basically just whatever, this great idea that's 538 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: patented is just never going to see the light of 539 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: day because they have no interest in you and that 540 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: they just want the money from suing people that's a patentrol. 541 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: I apologize for to all the patentrols out there. Yes, 542 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: it's all the people who corrected me. Thank you for that. Yes. Uh. 543 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: If you want to correct us, we are always up 544 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: for that. You can send us a tweet at s 545 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: y ESK podcast. You can join us on Facebook. We 546 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: have our own page too. It's stuff you should know uh, 547 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: And you can also send us a good old fashioned email. 548 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: Stuff podcast at how stuff works dot com For more 549 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: on this and thousands of other topics, does it how 550 00:33:55,160 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: stuff works dot com