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Speaker 2: We have another coaching vacancy in the NFL. Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 2: have fired Sean McDermott. Stat of the Day brought to

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Speaker 2: Dan Patrick Show. You know, we talk about coaches sometimes

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Speaker 2: coaching for their jobs, and it felt like that, it

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Speaker 2: felt like that last year was Sean McDermott and this

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Speaker 2: is where it's nine years and you go, is that

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Speaker 2: the guy? Like how many guys can get you over

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Speaker 2: the top? Andy Reid for a long time in Philadelphia, Hey,

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Speaker 2: he can get you there. He can't get you over

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Speaker 2: the top until he got to Kansas City and then

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Speaker 2: he could put you over the top. But there are

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Speaker 2: certain coaches that I think we give far more credit to,

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Speaker 2: like Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh could be Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame coaches, could be Can they get you over the top?

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Speaker 2: Are they just really really good regular season head coaches?

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Speaker 2: Because it's a different DNA when you get to the postseason,

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Speaker 2: Like what do you got, who are you? What are

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Speaker 2: you going to do? Clock management, how you get your

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Speaker 2: team ready? Like just so many things that stuff that

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Speaker 2: maybe is not tangible where you think, but you have,

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Speaker 2: you know, a team that goes out there and wins

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Speaker 2: when maybe they're not supposed to win, or holds on

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Speaker 2: comes up with a play when they need to, and

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Speaker 2: Buffalo never did that. And when you think about this,

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Speaker 2: the New York Jets have been in more AFC title

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Speaker 2: games than the Buffalo Bills have in the last thirty years.

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Speaker 2: of the Dan Patrick Show. I always think about this,

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Speaker 2: like John Harball, if you make the kick and you

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Speaker 2: go into the postseason, does he still get fired? And

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Speaker 2: I think if they didn't get to the title game,

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Speaker 2: he was going to get fired. Now I don't have

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Speaker 2: any information on that. That was just a gut feeling

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Speaker 2: that I had. Did the Bills make their mind up

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Speaker 2: about Sean McDermott now or last week? Did it matter

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Speaker 2: what was going to happen? What if they won the

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Speaker 2: game then you go to the AFC title game? What

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Speaker 2: if you go to the Super Bowl? So you're coaching

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Speaker 2: for your job and Sean McDermott paid the price nine years.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Steve Tasker, the Buffalo Bill's announcer he'll

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Speaker 2: join us coming up in an hour from now, Albert Breer,

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Speaker 2: the Monday Morning quarterback. Following all the movers and shakers,

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Speaker 2: and I did get information on this from somebody who

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Speaker 2: said there is probably at least one coach who is

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Speaker 2: coaching for his job in the postseason. Then we were

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Speaker 2: talking about all the vacancies there, and I wondered, you know,

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Speaker 2: if Matt Lafleur is not re signed extended in Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: would John Harbaught have taken in that job. If Matt

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Speaker 2: Lafleur doesn't stay in Green Bay, does he go to Pittsburgh?

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Speaker 2: Is Mike McCarthy in the mix in Pittsburgh a Pittsburgh guy?

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Speaker 2: What if Buffalo opens up because you got Josh Allen there?

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Speaker 2: When you think about Lamar Jackson, two time MVP, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: the reigning MVP, and they will have new head coaches

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Speaker 2: next year. Robert Salah is gonna maybe get a run

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore here, the defensive coordinator for the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: might be coming back to be a head coach. And

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Speaker 2: once again, there's a lot of talk, there's so many openings,

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Speaker 2: who's going where? And then it feels like there's a

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Speaker 2: domino effect happening. You know when Baltimore and now Buffalo

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Speaker 2: is open. You know Stefanski's going to Atlanta hardball with

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Speaker 2: the Giants. So there's a lot going on. And this

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Speaker 2: is the NFL. But did anybody know think that Buffalo

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Speaker 2: was going to come open? Now I know what people

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Speaker 2: we're going to say, what about Mike Tomlin. I can

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Speaker 2: only tell you what I was told last week that

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Speaker 2: Mike there is no guarantee he comes back to coaching,

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Speaker 2: and there's no guarantee he does TV. But there's a

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Speaker 2: two year window here he doesn't. If he goes someplace,

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Speaker 2: then you have to give a compensation to the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: and he knows that, so does the team that would

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Speaker 2: sign him, and so did the Steelers. But I don't

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Speaker 2: see Mike Tomlin coaching again anytime soon, unless the person

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Speaker 2: who told me this is off on it. I did

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Speaker 2: get some information on college football, so keep this in mind. Friday,

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Speaker 2: it'll be voted on if the college football playoffs will expand.

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Speaker 2: So they had a meeting in Miami last week, and

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Speaker 2: what they're trying to do is figure out are we

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Speaker 2: twelve to twenty four. The Big Ten wants a three

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Speaker 2: So this was the College Football Playoff Management Committee. So

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Speaker 2: have to decide by this Friday. If they don't decide

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Speaker 2: by this Friday, from when I'm told, the college football

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Speaker 2: playoffs will stay at twelve teams, a lot going on,

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Speaker 2: a lot going on, and then you got the national

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Speaker 2: title game tonight, it's actually two underdogs. When you think

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Speaker 2: about Miami squeaking in, or at least we were given

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Speaker 2: the impression Miami squeaked into the postseason, it's either Notre

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Speaker 2: national championship. Now, if you go back twenty five years ago,

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Speaker 2: the you they were like UNLV in the nineties in basketball,

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Speaker 2: like you had to deal with them, and they were

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Speaker 2: usually on the winning side of those things. Now in

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Speaker 2: the ACC and we're like, oh, Miami, kind of a

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Speaker 2: nice story, and then all of a sudden, Miami's playing

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Speaker 2: for a national championship. But there is no bigger Cinderella

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Speaker 2: story than Indiana football because now they're the favorite now,

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Speaker 2: but historically they're an underdog. Miami historically is a favorite.

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Speaker 2: Now they're an underdog in this game coming up tonight,

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Speaker 2: and I think Indiana is now favored by eight and

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Speaker 2: a half Miami playing at home. But this feels like

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Speaker 2: it's almost We would have been surprised if Indiana played

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Speaker 2: for the national title. Now will be surprised if Indiana

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Speaker 2: doesn't win the national title.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, it's been nine and ten days since the

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Speaker 3: last college football playoff game. It feels a lot longer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, when you said it, when you go, do

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Speaker 2: you know when you know they had a playoff game?

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Speaker 2: I go, I have no idea. I thought two weeks

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Speaker 2: want to start the season earlier so they can end

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Speaker 2: right around New Year's Now, they're starting in August already,

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Speaker 2: but it feels like they want to start a little earlier.

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Speaker 2: Now you have the President coming out and saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: that second Saturday in December, that's Army Navy, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to sign anything. You know, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: make sure that I hold up the college football playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I don't have the exact language of that. The President's decision.

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Speaker 2: Army Navy gets its time slot, and as my source said, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's great for Army Navy, and it's great for the

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Speaker 2: college football is trying to do and trying to come

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Speaker 2: up with a solution for next year. But Indiana football

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Speaker 2: tonight favored by eight and a half. And it probably

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Speaker 2: comes down to, you know what normal games come down to,

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Speaker 2: who makes the mistake and when do you make that mistake?

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Speaker 2: Who do you trust more? Carson Becker, Fernando Mendoza, How

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Speaker 2: much pressure does Miami put on Indiana? Can Indiana do

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Speaker 2: what it did to these other schools and dominate the

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Speaker 2: line of scrimmage? So just some of the questions, but

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Speaker 2: I feel bad that it's kind of like, oh, by

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Speaker 2: the way, there's a national title game coming up, and

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Speaker 2: if you're watching like the Mothership, you know there's conundrum. Hey,

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Speaker 2: we are all in on the NFL, but hey, how

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Speaker 2: about that national title game coming up tonight? They're sort

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Speaker 2: of half in, half out. It's like a national title game.

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Speaker 2: All right, we mentioned it. Hey, let's go back to

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Speaker 2: the Bears finish there.

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Speaker 4: Yes, ton It's pretty funny that Miami's playing on their

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Speaker 4: They have to stand on the other sideline, and I

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Speaker 4: think you use the visiting locker room facilities, which is wild.

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Speaker 2: Didn't they crazy? Crazy? All right, let's get some phone

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Speaker 2: calls in here. Best and worst of the weekend Chris

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Speaker 2: and Syracuse once again, the Buffalo Bills who fired Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Chris, Hey, Thanks Sam, Hey got a best of

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Speaker 5: worst in a comment? My comment is, and I hope

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Speaker 5: I'm wrong, but I think Miami wins tonight. Indiana has

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Speaker 5: been beating teams all year that have more talent, speed, size, strength,

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Speaker 5: and I think it finally catches up to him. And

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Speaker 5: my worst the Bear's passing up on field goals and

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Speaker 5: going forward on fourth downs. Now in the NFL, kicking

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Speaker 5: the field goal is not looked at as giddy three points.

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Speaker 5: It's looked at his losing. It's crazy, and especially in

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Speaker 5: the playoffs where weather factors and more and square and

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Speaker 5: opportunities are at a premium. Yet take the points. Just

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Speaker 5: like Bill Kower said on The Dan Patrick Show last

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Speaker 5: week and a bittersweet best Todd FRISUS Broncos, maybe it

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Speaker 5: will be like when Carson Wentz went down. If Doug

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Speaker 5: Peterson can pull that off, certainly Sean Payton is capable.

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Speaker 5: And here in Central New York, all the Bill fans

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Speaker 5: have been saying is this is the year no Burrow,

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Speaker 5: no Lamar, Noble Holmes. But in typical Buffalo Bill fashion,

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Speaker 5: they still managed to find a way to get mixed.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris. The Bears went three for nine on

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Speaker 2: fourth downs in the postseason. I just believe in getting

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Speaker 2: or we don't get anything. I just don't like that

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Speaker 2: years ago, and it feels like it's a regular season thing. Like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's go after this, Let's have some fun. We got

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Speaker 2: to play called for this in these big moments, it

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Speaker 2: just feels like fourth and four that seems like an

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Speaker 2: got to factor in what's at stake. I just I know,

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Speaker 2: three feels like you failed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Paulie, I wonder if Ben Johnson and the coaching

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Speaker 3: staff didn't have a ton of faith in the defense

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Speaker 3: after what happened to Jordan Love and they thought we

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Speaker 3: got to match seventh with Matthew Stafford, and they didn't

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Speaker 3: think that their defense would be able to slow them

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Speaker 2: Chicago's defense held them in check. Man. I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: a good enough performance by your defense to win most

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Speaker 2: playoff games. And the Rams didn't play great, but you know,

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Speaker 2: I got to give the Bears credit. They played well.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy and Wisconsin and the play by Caleb Williams, I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's fourth quarter. Hey, he's a different kind of guy.

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Speaker 2: He's a different dude. Hey, Jeremy.

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Speaker 6: Hey, greetings, greetings VP from the frozen tundra, where Packer

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Speaker 6: fans will attest to the fact that field goals are

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Speaker 6: and is always guaranteed either. But I have a best

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Speaker 6: and worth and a quick comment that's of the weekend. Sorry, Paulie.

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Speaker 6: Always great to see the Bears lose. Would have been

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Speaker 6: a real kick to the groin seeing Johnson and that

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Speaker 6: Caleb Williams get to the NFT Championship before love and

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Speaker 6: the floor. But the worst is the girlfriend's on a

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Speaker 6: cruise and I'm here a negative thirty win shill. That's

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Speaker 6: not fun either. But I think Caleb Williams will be

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Speaker 6: really good. He does make a couple of those decisions

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Speaker 6: like Cutler always did where he'll give you two to

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Speaker 6: three interception opportunities. But I think that's going to be

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Speaker 6: a really great rivalry moving forward. So all the Beasts

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Speaker 9: Hi Buddha, oh man, thanks to taking the call. DP

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Speaker 9: Well DP, all good things come doing that, my man.

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Speaker 2: Comment away. So the Buffalo Bills need a new head coach.

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Speaker 2: Do not underestimate the importance of the head coaching decision

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Speaker 2: talk about how the Bills got eliminated from the playoffs, Steve.

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Speaker 2: But there's a you know, interesting element added to this

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Speaker 8: Very very surprised. Yeah, in my of course, I'm one

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Speaker 8: It took a really incredible and let's say this on

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Speaker 8: It's going to be a big change in a huge

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Speaker 8: can't underrest. You can't understate or overstate. I'm sorry, you

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Speaker 2: Was he in the building this morning?

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Speaker 8: I do not know. I don't know. This is all

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Speaker 8: Turned it over? That's always been the bugaboo with this team.

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Speaker 8: probably is a runaway win. But they did five times.

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Speaker 8: That's too many, and they paid the price for it.

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Speaker 2: You guys should be going to the super Bowl. That

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Maybe, I still I don't think you get to

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Speaker 2: And I know this is still thresh this wound, but

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Speaker 2: Help me understand ownership there. They don't strike me as

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I just tell I'll say this, Sewan, it was

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Speaker 8: And I know that while we're we talk about it

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Speaker 8: at at an armless linked level. It's a rough day

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Speaker 8: here in the in Buffalo, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve. Steve Tasker, former Buffalo Bill's All Pro

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Speaker 2: We bring in the senior NFL reporter for the Monday

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Speaker 2: morning quarterback, Albert Breer, back on the program. I guess

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Speaker 2: it turns out that Sean mcgermott was coaching for his John.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, how's your Monday morning going?

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Speaker 2: Still employed?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say I I'm surprised, but I think

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Speaker 11: there were and I think he was.

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Speaker 7: Surprised, but there were some tea leaves, you know.

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Speaker 11: I think Josh Allen's emotional press conference. I think McDermott

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Speaker 11: you can kind of c you know, with the criticism

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Speaker 11: of the officials the first time and then coming back

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Speaker 11: the second time. I think you kind of feel that

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Speaker 11: there was heat on everybody there, you know, and that

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Speaker 11: the window to win a championship, like the owners were

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Speaker 11: feeling that and feeling the pressure of being within that.

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Speaker 11: And you know, I think a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 11: I used the Tony Dungee comparison with you, Dan, and

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Speaker 11: I think it's an apt one, you know. I that's

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Speaker 11: the way I see this is, you know, Sean McDermott

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Speaker 11: did a ton of good in Buffalo. They had me

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Speaker 11: been to the playoffs in eighteen years. You know, he

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Speaker 11: was there for nine. They make it an eight of

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Speaker 11: those nine years, seven in a row, five AFC's titles,

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Speaker 11: two AFC Championship games, a franchise quarterback, like all these

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Speaker 11: things weren't imaginable for the Bills when he got there.

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Speaker 11: But you know, the same way it was with Tony

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Speaker 11: Dungee when he rebuilt the Bucks. You know, the owners

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Speaker 11: down there felt.

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Speaker 7: This shrinking window with that team they had with you.

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Speaker 11: Know, Derek Brooks and and and Lawn Sapp and John

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Speaker 11: Lynch and Rendez Barber, And I think sort of the

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Speaker 11: same thing with a quarterback in Buffalo. You know, there's

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Speaker 11: a feeling like we're not going to get a million

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Speaker 11: shots at this, so we need to strike while the

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Speaker 11: iron's hot.

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Speaker 2: So what's Buffalo do?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 11: This is I think a once in a lifetime opportunity

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Speaker 11: for a coach, don't.

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Speaker 2: You Yeah, yeah, But Baltimore is as well.

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Speaker 11: Right, I just look at like this with Josh Allen

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Speaker 11: and the chance to do this and compete for a championship,

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Speaker 11: Like if this job were to come open again in

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Speaker 11: three or four years, with the amount of damage he's taken, like,

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Speaker 11: we don't know that it's gonna be the same Josh Allen.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 11: So if I'm the Bills, I'm taking full advantage of that.

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Speaker 7: And that means you're going to interview all.

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Speaker 11: The usual suspects, the names that we've heard, you know,

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Speaker 11: over the course of the last couple of weeks. And

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Speaker 11: there's some really good candidates out there, some of them

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Speaker 11: on the defensive side of the ball, which you know,

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Speaker 11: maybe the Bills shy away from that now because they

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Speaker 11: just spend nine years going down that path with McDermott.

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Speaker 7: But why not take.

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Speaker 11: Big swings if you're Buffalo? Why not just see well,

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Speaker 11: I mean, we'll call the Rams call. And I'm not

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Speaker 11: saying those guys that be available, but you know, when

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Speaker 11: you have that quarterback and you're in this situation and

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Speaker 11: you might be able to entice something just to see

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Speaker 11: how their situation is, why wouldn't you do it?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I got it.

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Speaker 11: This is the way I look at it right Like

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Speaker 11: it's like if I'm if I'm Buffalo, I'm looking at

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Speaker 11: this and I'm saying like we are in a once

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Speaker 11: in a lifetime window. This is a really hard place

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Speaker 11: to be. We got a quarterback who carried an incredibly

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Speaker 11: heavy load this year, and we want to take some

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Speaker 11: of that off of him.

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Speaker 7: And we can offer somebody.

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Speaker 11: The chance to do that and compete for championships right

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Speaker 11: away with a roster that's still pretty good and has

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Speaker 11: a lot of young pieces on it. I think you

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Speaker 11: have to take advantage of that opportunity. And what that

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Speaker 11: opportunity looks like. You know, it's gonna be in the

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Speaker 11: eye of the beholder. But I mean, the one thing

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Speaker 11: I can't shake is, like Josh Allen turning thirty this

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Speaker 11: off season. There's the chance for someone to get in

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Speaker 11: there and compete for championships right away and change the

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Speaker 11: narrative on Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 7: And if you're going to make this.

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Speaker 11: Bold move to get rid of a coach that accomplished

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Speaker 11: that much over nine years, I think your higher has

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Speaker 11: to be bold as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but why wouldn't we say the same thing about Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: They've got the two time MVP in Lamar Johnson.

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Speaker 7: I'd agree. I just I.

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Speaker 11: It's fair, it's a fair it's a fair thing to say.

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Speaker 11: I just think if you look at Baltimore's success, it

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Speaker 11: goes past Lamar, right, and they've always been so stable

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Speaker 11: and able to build for so long. And they've got

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Speaker 11: Eric DaCosta who was who was groomed by Auzie Newsom

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Speaker 11: for the job, and this is this has been who

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Speaker 11: the Ravens are for twenty five years. And they found

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Speaker 11: John Harbob like kind of going an unconventional route, and

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Speaker 11: so I think it's a little different. There's just some

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Speaker 11: nuance there where, Like I think with Baltimore as good

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Speaker 11: as Lamar is, and I think Lamar is great, you

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Speaker 11: know what I think of Lamar. I think it's just

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Speaker 11: a little bit of a different spot than Buffalo where

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Speaker 11: you look at it and it's just so much has

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Speaker 11: been built around that one player, you know what I mean. Where, Man,

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Speaker 11: if we've invested this much to getting it getting it

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Speaker 11: right with the quarterback, we need to get the coach right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Baltimore is a better job.

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Speaker 11: I think it's probably fair too, because of the stability

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Speaker 11: to franchise and everything else.

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Speaker 2: I think they're a better team. You know, Buffalo I

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Speaker 2: didn't think was a great team.

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Speaker 7: Are you worried about Lamar's injuries?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah. And that's the thing is like, that's the thing

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Speaker 7: you have to sort of assess, you know.

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Speaker 2: But would you hire Mike McDaniel in Buffalo?

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Speaker 7: I think about it.

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Speaker 2: Would you hire Brian Dable?

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Speaker 7: I think about it.

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Speaker 11: And the reason why I just I look at like

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Speaker 11: so many things, and Dave Ball's got the built in

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Speaker 11: relationship with Josh, so that's a factor.

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Speaker 7: Of course.

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Speaker 11: Dave Ball's also from Western New York. He understands the market,

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Speaker 11: like I think he'd be good in that job. Watching

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Speaker 11: the Bills this year, everything looks like harder than it

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Speaker 11: should be, you know what I mean? Did you get

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Speaker 11: that sense to watching them? So they got to do

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Speaker 11: something at receiver. I think they got to do something

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Speaker 11: to give Josh. I can still remember this, and like

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Speaker 11: with Ben Roethlisberger, right, So Todd Haley came in and

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Speaker 11: this was when Arians left for the Colts in and

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Speaker 11: twelve and so.

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Speaker 7: Todd Haley came in and that was.

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Speaker 11: After eight years of Ben Roethlisberger, right, and two Super

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Speaker 11: Bowl wins, and he looked at Ben and said, he's

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Speaker 11: not going to last if he keeps playing this way.

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Speaker 11: And so, you know, they they had kind of assembled

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Speaker 11: this young group of receivers that Antonio Brown and Mike

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Speaker 11: Wallace and Emmanuel Sanders and you know, Todd Haley kind

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Speaker 11: of taking the tack. We got to make things easier

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Speaker 11: on this guy, and we gotta we got to create

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Speaker 11: more layups on him for him, and we got to.

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Speaker 7: Kind of transform who he is as a quarterback.

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Speaker 11: And I think that that's going to be part of

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Speaker 11: the job for the next coach, is like, how do

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Speaker 11: we create like a second phase of Josh Allen's career

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Speaker 11: where he doesn't have like in the playoffs, three different

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Speaker 11: injuries on the on the injury.

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Speaker 7: Report at the end of a playoff week, Right, how

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Speaker 7: do we do that?

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Speaker 11: And you know, I remember having a lot of conversations

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Speaker 11: with Todd Haley about that, you know, back then, that

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Speaker 11: was fourteen years ago now, but I think some of

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Speaker 11: the same principles apply, where you know, you want to

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Speaker 11: try to create a situation for your quarterback where you're

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Speaker 11: you're making things easier on him.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't look quite as hard anymore. And you know,

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Speaker 7: you're you're almost generating a second phase of his career.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback senior NFL reporter,

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Speaker 2: are we close to any of these vacancies being filled?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I think Miami could be soon. I think Tennessee

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Speaker 11: could be soon. You know, Miami's got a couple of

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Speaker 11: guys in this morning. Jeff Hafley is going to be

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Speaker 11: in this afternoon. He worked with their new general manager,

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Speaker 11: John Eric Sullivan in Green Bay. He's been sort of

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Speaker 11: the leader in the clubhouse for a few days now.

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Speaker 11: Hathley's also got the opportunity to go to Tennessee, and

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Speaker 11: I think whether or not he takes that trip, you're

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Speaker 11: gonna hear.

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Speaker 7: About that later today, you know.

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Speaker 11: And I just think, you know, like it's it may

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Speaker 11: come down to Hafley saying, I really want to take

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Speaker 11: a look at the Tennessee job. Which one's better, or

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Speaker 11: I'm gonna take the bird in the hand with a

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Speaker 11: general manager that I know in John Eric Sullivan.

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Speaker 7: Tennessee's accelerating their process as well.

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Speaker 11: They were supposed to have Robert Sala the forty nine

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Speaker 11: ers defensive coordinator for a zoom yesterday. They rescheduled that

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Speaker 11: as an in person interview today. They're very interested in Sala.

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Speaker 11: They've got Naggie back in for a second interview again.

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Speaker 11: Hathley's supposed to come in tomorrow. And those are the

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Speaker 11: three known finalists at this point. And you know, I

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Speaker 11: think they like Athley quite a bit. They they like Saw,

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Speaker 11: They've got the relationship with Naggie, Mike Borgonzi does from

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Speaker 11: Kansas City, and what they're looking for in a coach's presence,

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Speaker 11: you know, I think part of that is kind of

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Speaker 11: maybe trying to re establish what Mike Vrabel had there

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Speaker 11: over the years, you know. And then Cleveland has Jim

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Speaker 11: Schwartz in for a second interview today. Nathan schielhas the

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Speaker 11: Rams play a passing coordinator, and Mike McDaniel are both

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Speaker 11: in the mix there as well. So you have some

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Speaker 11: teams that are sort of coming down the stretch now,

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Speaker 11: and it'll be interesting to see, like, you know, as

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Speaker 11: some of these names, you know, like that people are

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Speaker 11: less familiar with, Likeah Halflee, like maybe a Jesse mintor

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Speaker 11: as these guys start to get second interviews with multiple teams,

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Speaker 11: I think that's gonna gonda gonna create a situation where

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Speaker 11: some of the dominoes are gonna start following.

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Speaker 2: What about c J. Stroud's future.

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Speaker 7: Uncertain?

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Speaker 11: They have big decisions to make this offseason. He's eligible

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Speaker 11: for a new contract for the first time, he has

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Speaker 11: a f your option. They got to make a decision

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Speaker 11: on that, and you know, I haven't looked up the number,

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Speaker 11: but I think it's over thirty million dollars that would

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Speaker 11: lock them in for twenty twenty seven. So you know,

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Speaker 11: those are two big decisions that need to be made

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Speaker 11: this offseason. And they went three and oh with Davis

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Speaker 11: Mills in there, you know, so I think having seven

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Speaker 11: turnovers and two in two playoff games and being in

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Speaker 11: the window that they're in. I just talked about windows

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Speaker 11: at Buffalo being the one being in the window that

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Speaker 11: they're in with this just ridiculous defense that played really

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Speaker 11: well for the most part, eventually crack but played really

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Speaker 11: well for the most part in New England and obviously

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Speaker 11: dominated in Pittsburgh. There's some big decision making that has

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Speaker 11: to happen there. So I think his future is a

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Speaker 11: little uncertain. I wouldn't be surprised if teams make calls

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Speaker 11: just to see if he's available, But there are definitely

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Speaker 11: some moving parts there and we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 11: Again, I don't know they've had the chance to sit

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Speaker 11: down and fully assess everything, and they probably won't until

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Speaker 11: they review the entirety of the season.

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Speaker 2: Tell my audience everything they need to know about Jared Stidham.

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Speaker 7: He's an interesting name.

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Speaker 2: So he was.

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Speaker 11: He was at the like coming out of high school,

665
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Speaker 11: was one of the top players in the country, went

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Speaker 11: to Baylor to play for Art Briles, and got caught

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Speaker 11: in the caught up in all of that, Like not

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Speaker 11: that he was involved, but like obviously you know, he

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Speaker 11: was one of the players that kind of became collateral

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Speaker 11: damage in that whole thing, and so he winds up

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Speaker 11: transferring to Auburn, played in an offense that maybe wasn't

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Speaker 11: all that suited to his skill set, and when he

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Speaker 11: was coming out, a lot of people looked at him said, like,

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Speaker 11: this guy still has like all the traits that you

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Speaker 11: would want in a blue chip recruit, right, and so

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Speaker 11: gets drafted by the Patriots. He may have started in

677
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Speaker 11: twenty twenty in New England if it weren't for Covid

678
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Speaker 11: wiping out like the entire offseason program. Obviously the shorter

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Speaker 11: off season. The Patriots wanted somebody more experienced. They brought

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Speaker 11: in Cam Newton that year, and then Josh McDaniels, who

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Speaker 11: had Stidham in New England, goes to Vegas and they

682
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Speaker 11: were together for three years in New England and trades

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Speaker 11: for him, right, and so he trades for him as

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Speaker 11: to be Derek Carr's back up in twenty two, and

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Speaker 11: then tries to bring him back to compete with Jimmy

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Speaker 11: Garoppolo for the job in twenty three. But Sean Payton

687
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 11: now bids him as Russell will and brings him bring

688
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 11: and Sean Payton brings him in as Russell Wilson Insurance.

689
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Speaker 11: Peyton did a two year deal with him. Then he

690
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Speaker 11: does another two year deal with him, So clearly there's

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Speaker 11: something there, you know. I know, Sean really liked, you know,

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Speaker 11: Sidham's ability to handle a very complex offense, you know,

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Speaker 11: because he'd played for Josh McDaniels and they have a

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Speaker 11: ton of confidence that he's going to be okay, played

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Speaker 11: really well in the preseason. I think the question is

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Speaker 11: going to be here.

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Speaker 7: Dan Is Nicks was good, not.

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Speaker 11: Great for three and a half quarters of a lot

699
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Speaker 11: of games and then just made huge throw after a

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Speaker 11: huge throw after a huge throw, and big spots. Is

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Speaker 11: why he has so many fourth quarter comebacks this year,

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Speaker 11: including the one against Buffalo on Saturday. Can still of

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Speaker 11: make those plays at the end of the game if

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Speaker 11: they can get New England into the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 11: they're at home, can still of make the sorts of

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Speaker 11: throws that Knicks was making it towards the end of games.

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Speaker 7: I think that's gonna be the biggest question.

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Speaker 2: What's the going rate for head coaches now as far

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Speaker 2: as because Lafloor's up to whatever, maybe yeah, fourteen to

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Speaker 2: fifteen million dollars?

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Speaker 8: Is that? Where is it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: I mean well, I would say maybe even more than that.

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Speaker 11: I don't have the number, but I mean I can

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Speaker 11: give you this, Like you know, Liam Cohen got twelve

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Speaker 11: million million of years a first time head coach last

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Speaker 11: year in Jacksonville. Ben Johnson got thirteen million a year

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Speaker 11: last year is the first time head coach in Chicago,

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Speaker 11: and I believe he had a bigger offer than that, right,

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Speaker 11: And that was part of where some of the questions

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Speaker 11: were with Lafleura in Green Bay. It was never do

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Speaker 11: do we want to bring them back? They always wanted

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Speaker 11: to bring them back. The question was whether or not

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Speaker 11: they be able to work out a new contract and whether,

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Speaker 11: you know, if things went sideways in the negotiation, would

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Speaker 11: some other team come in and offer something enticing like

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Speaker 11: there were a lot of moving parts there. Obviously they

728
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Speaker 11: wind up getting it done. But I mean, look, here's

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Speaker 11: the thing. I mean, you have like second receivers, right,

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Speaker 11: second pass rushers getting twenty million a year, So for

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Speaker 11: an established head coach, it makes sense they're worth at

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Speaker 11: least that much, you know, So.

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Speaker 7: I think it's.

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Speaker 11: There were some owners I would say suppressing I don't

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Speaker 11: want to use a sword, but suppressing maybe salaries a little.

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Speaker 7: Bit for a while there. But it certainly looks like

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Speaker 7: the dams broke.

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Speaker 11: And you know, one thing that contributed to was was

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Speaker 11: all the TV money that's out there, you know, I

740
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Speaker 11: know it was a factor in Sean mcvay's negotiation with

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Speaker 11: the Rams, what he was getting on offered to go

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Speaker 11: into network television, and you know, so certainly I think

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Speaker 11: there's been a little bit of a correction and those

744
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Speaker 11: numbers are way higher than they used to be.

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Speaker 2: How did the reps do this weekend?

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Speaker 7: Am I gonna get fined?

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Speaker 11: Look like I I just think like public trust is

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Speaker 11: an all time low, you know, and I I I.

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Speaker 7: Agree with Sean McDermott. There needs to be more clarity

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Speaker 7: and it.

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Speaker 11: Can't be I mean, and I just think watching the

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Speaker 11: games and you know, I.

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Speaker 2: But how do you get clarity though, Albert.

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, here's the thing.

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Speaker 11: So during the season, I don't get to During the season,

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Speaker 11: I'm trying to watch everything, so really I don't get

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Speaker 11: to watch like drill down on the commentary or even

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Speaker 11: the pace of some of the games as much because

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Speaker 11: I'm trying to watch everything right and see the primetime

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Speaker 11: games of course, But you know, during the playoffs, one

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Speaker 11: thing that sucks stuck out to me is like it's just,

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Speaker 11: you know, sometimes you get this long drawn out expe

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Speaker 11: sometimes it's like what the hell has happened?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 7: In this case, Sean mcdermom is trying to slow it

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Speaker 7: down so the.

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Speaker 11: Head official can get a look at the at the

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Speaker 11: Cooks play with McMillan there, with Jakawhi McMillan there, Like,

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Speaker 11: I think that's a fair ask to have the head

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Speaker 11: referee go over under the hood and take a real

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Speaker 11: look at it.

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Speaker 7: Who is making that ruling, who is in the referee's

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Speaker 7: ear Like, there's just not a lot of clarity with it.

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Speaker 11: And if there's not a lot of clarity, then there's

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Speaker 11: gonna be a lot of questions.

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Speaker 7: And in an era when the.

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Speaker 11: NFL and its teams are taking money handover fists from

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Speaker 11: all the gambling companies, I think having some clarity on

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Speaker 11: the way these things are being officiated and the way

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Speaker 11: certain players are being adjudicated is paramount. And so I've

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Speaker 11: said this for a long time, like, I just think

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Speaker 11: it's gotten so tangled up.

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Speaker 7: They've done a bad job incorporating.

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Speaker 11: The technology because they just keep kind of all, right,

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Speaker 11: here are more points of emphasis, here's more technology, and it's.

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Speaker 8: More and more and more and more.

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Speaker 11: They've made it so much harder on the on field officials,

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Speaker 11: and then they don't know how to communicate it to

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Speaker 11: the public. I really think that they need to go

790
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Speaker 11: in this off season and tear the thing down to

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Speaker 11: the studs and take all the technology available, take the

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Speaker 11: crews they have available, maybe add sky judges to each crew,

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Speaker 11: and rebuild it all together because I just think what's

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Speaker 11: happening right now, flat out isn't working in the eyes

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Speaker 11: of the public, and the public trust is such an

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Speaker 11: important thing for a professional sport.

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Speaker 2: Fritzie is the commissioner on the phone to find Albert Breer. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got them, Okay, all right, commission Albert, I know

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Speaker 2: you're busy. Thank you for your time. It's always all right,

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Speaker 2: Thanks Dan. That's Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback senior

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Speaker 2: NFL reporter