WEBVTT - Binging the Purge 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:07.640 It's two fifteen am at the Hotel Cecil and you're 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:28.440 listening to Night Call. Welcome tonight Call. I am Emily Yoshida. 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:33.400 I am back with my Nightcall friends on the West Coast, 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:37.479 Tests and Molly. Sorry, usually we introduce ourselves, but I'm 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.440 just too excited now, so I'm introducing you guys for you, um, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.360 you've been gone so long you have to just take 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:47.920 over entirely of course. Well for this is my show now. Yes, 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:50.600 it feels great. It feels like it's been forever. But 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.600 I was away, as as was detailed on the show, 0:00:55.120 --> 0:00:59.000 marrying somebody I met on a podcast, met on this podcast. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:04.960 Technically it is podcast grandfather, yes, grandfather grand like I 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:09.440 would think of it as like a like a mother, grandmother, grandmother, 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:13.440 because there's there's been other incarnations along the true Yeah, 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.080 there have been. There's a there's a there's a m 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.759 c U of the Girls and Hoodies. Yeah. We talked 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.880 about this last week about all the podcasts that we've had, 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:27.399 Molly's five podcasts. I just keep starting more. I can't 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:32.839 stop podcasting. Emily. Yeah, welcome back. Thank you. We missed 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:37.920 you a me too. I really, I really wish that 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.959 we could have podcasted like from Afar, because I feel 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:44.560 like there are so many things I wanted to tell 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.400 you guys about, especially when we were on our honeymoon. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:50.720 We got some really good texts from you at times 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.919 that were like made sense to us, right, yes, wait, 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:58.680 like what it's all kind of a fog. Oh you know, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:01.320 just like sometimes I'm wake very late at night and 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:04.800 maybe it's daytime in Japan during that time, and you 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:06.960 send a nice text of some forest crabs, and then 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.119 all we talked about on this podcast while you're gone 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:12.160 is the four forest craps. We need to spend a 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.200 minute talking about the forest crabs. Well, also, you should 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:17.800 just tell us every like, tell us all of the highlights, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:21.200 because your Instagram was full of some really good ones 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.320 and what we have to get to the lost in 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.360 Translation hotel. I felt like we were all on vacation together. 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.440 We were good. Oh good. First, I rarely am on vacation, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:31.880 but I guess this is the first time I was 0:02:31.919 --> 0:02:36.360 on really on a vacation with Instagram stories, so I 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:39.799 kind of I really liked falling back on Instagram stories 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.919 instead of say Twitter to talk about whatever was going on, 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.360 because it felt like I didn't have to explain or 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.680 make a joke about whatever I was doing and just 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:50.120 be like, look at this cool thing that I'm looking at, 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.920 and that could be it. I didn't have to be 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.440 a writer about it. So that felt like a kind 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.200 of nice way to to share the vacation without being 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.000 too without having the social media thing take it over. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.040 So there were so many cool things to look at. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:08.480 I mean, and and that's the other thing I say 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.160 about stories is it doesn't all need to go on 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.160 your actual feed. It can just sort of like My 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:16.080 only complain there about stories is that then they go away, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.320 and they go away. All I wanted was to see 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:22.000 the forest craft I have. I saved the video of 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.680 the forest craft, so I I made the joke on 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.799 on Instagram that they were confused and thought it was 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:31.280 the ocean. I think it's more like they just got 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:34.800 washed up from a nearby creek and we're just like 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.960 wandering on the pavement. So we went during the rainy season, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.840 which I think is kind of the reason why our 0:03:39.960 --> 0:03:42.960 tickets weren't in a zillion dollars when we were out there. Um, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.520 and it really wasn't that bad. But the one day 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.600 where it really rained a ton was of course, the 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.480 one day we decided we were going to be walking 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.360 around Kyoto and doing like having our most touristy day. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.760 It was so beautiful though. Yeah, it was nice, like 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.040 it was very atmospheric, and it was nice because it 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.760 wasn't too crowded because of the weather. But um, the 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:05.560 side note, um, like, very shortly after I got married, Um, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.960 I bought my first pair of Teva's um and I 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.200 feel like this like this transformation took place over the 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:16.320 course of one week where I'm like, I love my Tevas, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.840 I'm gonna go be a tourist and wearing my squashy sandals. 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:24.120 You entered the seriously because like, when it's raining that much, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.640 you can't even really wear boots because it'll just get 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.279 inside the boot. So I just thought, why fight it, 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.839 Just be barefoot and let the water wash over. You 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.159 became a forest crab yourself. I did, Yeah, I I 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:41.400 became slightly amphibious. So we were leaving um Nansen g 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.400 which is this huge Buddhist temple, and of course as 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.920 we're leaving, like the five PM was the closing time, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:50.680 so we couldn't be inside anymore. And then it just 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.600 starts pouring down rain. So we were just like running, 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.640 like bolting down this path um trying to get back 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:59.480 to the subway, which basically took an hour because it 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.360 starts lighten up, and then we'd start walking and then 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:04.200 I would start pouring again, and we'd like find shelter 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.520 under the nearest thing. But see, that sounds so nice 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:08.560 because we are in a place that doesn't have a 0:05:08.640 --> 0:05:12.200 rainy season anymore. And I talked about how we look 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.599 at the weather app every day and it says zero 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.800 percent chance of rain for every entire week, for every 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.680 entire year. It's like everything you can just fill in 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.400 rain with whatever else you good, you want to have happened, Like, yeah, 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.360 it's sometimes it will be raining and it will say 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:30.240 zero percent chance of rain. Sounds it was so it 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.080 was so and it was it was really moisoking everything 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.520 you posted. I was like, oh my god, yeah, it's 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.640 so crazy because we were there. We were staying. We're 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.760 staying outside of Kyoto in this um like of yokam 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:43.679 which is like the kind of a bed and breakfast, 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:45.680 like the Japanese version of a bed and breakfast, and 0:05:45.720 --> 0:05:47.360 the one we stayed at It's like they had this 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.279 river side thing where they turned off all the lights 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:52.400 at a certain points so you could see the fireflies, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.279 which was so funny because it reminded you me of 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.320 you Molly, because there were like three fireflies on the 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:01.279 river when I saw the fire in New York and yeah, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:05.080 lost your ship? What are those? Well? I think I've 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.240 said this before, but this is like a lot of 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.120 l A kids, I know, have this thing. We're the 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.560 only place we've ever seen fireflies is on pirates of 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:15.960 the Caribbean. Yes, you know. And then that's like what 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:17.800 I expect them to look like. And then when we 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.000 saw them in real life, I was like, what they exist? 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.800 I was looking for them here. Nobody tells you there's 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.919 no fireflies l A. When I moved here, I was like, 0:06:26.040 --> 0:06:30.440 trained summer, where are the bugs? That the trade of mosquitoes? 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.640 Well no, but now we have the mosquitoes. We now 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:37.080 we also have some mosquitoes because you're getting but wait, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.520 but it's not raining. How do you have mosquitoes water? 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:49.080 You know people have pools. There's the mighty l A River. Yes, Rory, 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:52.120 wait at this bed and breakfast, did you have to 0:06:52.120 --> 0:06:56.040 have communal breakfast and dinner. Um, yes, it's a well 0:06:56.080 --> 0:06:59.160 everybody gets there on little table. It's okay, that's I mean, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.360 it's like very formal. It's very old school communal tables. 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:05.760 Worst nightmare. No no, no no, no, you don't have 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:08.120 to you don't have to talk to anybody else. They 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.320 accept huge exception, and I think not not a good 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.119 trade off this This place, like many of these types 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.920 of super traditional like I would say, like fancy real 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:25.160 cons had geisha's, Like they come through and they like 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.280 perform some kind of dance or whatever. I mean, I 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.680 didn't know that this was a part of this hotel's 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.560 deal when I booked it, and then I saw later on, 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.800 I was like, oh that's interesting. I have very little 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:38.080 interest in that. But okay, but it's like a mandatory 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:39.760 part of your meeting that you have to like sit 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.600 and watch the geisha performance. But you there, mic goes 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.840 I like geishas and training. But uh, but then they 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.360 come through and they talk like to each table and 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.360 you have to talk to them and you have to 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.000 talk to them. It's like one of them that came 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:57.400 through and talked she spoke a little more English and 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.559 it was okay, But then those of them mostly don't, 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.520 and so I was speaking to them in Japanese, and 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:04.880 my Japanese is really bad and also takes a lot 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.080 of brain power for me to use, and especially at 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.560 the end of the day, I feel like like almost 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.920 wiped out, like I cannot like speak Japanese like it 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:14.640 just it would like take it out of me at 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.280 the at the end of every day to try to 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.240 have a conversation with the mico. But uh yeah, so 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.600 that I would rather be at a communal table with 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:27.000 other people who are staying at the hotel than than 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:32.240 with what did you guys talk about? Like, oh, where 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.800 are you from? And I found it to be supremely awkward, 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.920 but like the drunk businessman who were there for dinner 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.160 gotta gotta kick out of it, So I guess it's 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.360 not really for me. What else did you see? And 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.200 where else did you go? Are three main places we 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:51.880 were with Kyoto Osaka and Tokyo Osaka is the best. 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.000 We only spend a day there, but I really want 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.480 to spend like a whole trip there next time I 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.280 go to Japan, because it's um really really on and 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.440 the food is amazing and people are just like it's 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:07.120 more fun. But I wanted to tell you guys. So 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.360 this campaign was started a few years ago in Kyoto 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:14.320 to get more people to use public transportation and to 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.560 use the subway. They decided, like the best tactic to 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.880 attract people to the subway would be to make like 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:26.520 cute anome girl mascots for the train. Um. And so 0:09:26.559 --> 0:09:32.000 it's called like the Moe Moe Kyoto like campaign. UM. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.599 And they have like they have this full cast of 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.760 characters now, Like this started a while ago and so 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.920 by now they've unveiled more and more characters. UM. And 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.240 there's uh, like the main girl, she has like a brother, 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.160 and then another one of her friends as a brother, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.880 and they're all these bios for them. And I think 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.240 they made some kind of short animation, but it's just 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:56.640 hilarious because like all of the subways are plastered with 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.800 these ads of like these cute aunome girls like holding 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.640 their their subway passes and like showing how cool and 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.120 cute it is to have a subway. Doesn't work? Did 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.520 people ride the subway more? I guess? I guess it's 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.040 been successful because they've kept it up. Are they like 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.840 moa versions of the trains like, are they supposed to 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:16.440 be like a character who is the train? No? No, no, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:20.920 so they're right. Yeah, they're writers and I guess they're 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:23.240 supposed to be like Kyoto residents. But they're also named 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:27.079 after some of the different stops on the Kyoto subway. Um, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.520 it's so funny because they all have these official profiles. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:31.480 It's like somebody at this who works for the city. 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:37.000 How do we get I know, it's amazing, but but 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:38.920 there's one of the guys who's like kind of like 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.520 a jockish guy wearing a pink kodie is named Takeru 0:10:42.760 --> 0:10:45.640 and say Takara attended the same high school as Yo 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.840 and his best friend, who's like the other boy there. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.479 He has an easy going and optimistic side. After graduating 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:54.160 from high school, his desire to become a breadmaker let 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.719 him to study at a bakery in Kyoto. He likes 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.960 how people can buy bread around Kyoto subway stations. Now 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.920 I'm just picturing somebody riding the train and falling in 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.440 love with one of these characters. It seems as though 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.880 that happens, and people are collecting the posters, right Emily, Yeah, yeah, 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.640 And I was trying to find them because I I 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.280 realized that this was the thing, and then I started 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.520 trying to figure out where I could get the posters. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.000 But like they have different promotions like if you use 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:21.640 if you get a day pass and then go to 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.839 the zoo, you can get a poster or something, but 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.600 like none of those were happening while I was there. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.559 I was I was so charmed and and and delighted 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:34.679 by think we should have more train mascots. There's that 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.480 really good Twitter account. I think it's Mondo mascots, and 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.800 it's all just Japanese mascots for different things, and a 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.640 lot of it is like mascots for like a precinct 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.240 or whatever, you know, like they do just having a 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:50.240 mascot for everything. It's great the grain industry or something. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.360 Some of the ones I've seen on Mondo mascots, it's 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.120 like they're always about like well, like their main trades 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:01.000 are like growing melons and like trees, so it's like 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.400 an oak tree with a melon for ahead. Well. The 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:07.000 weird thing about it the boy who's not the bread baker, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:10.040 who's like the older brother. His picture makes him look 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.160 like he's just like shady, he's got something to hide, 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.120 and his description is like, you know, he's really cold 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:17.959 to his younger sister, which he is protective of her, 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.160 but it was also like he hates when the trains 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:24.920 don't run on time. Everybody has like normal personality traits 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:30.640 and then one hyper specific transportation. Let's take a subway 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:35.280 train to our next topic. Oh so we recently started 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:40.600 um a Facebook group from the Facebook page and uh, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:45.360 somebody whose name is Emily asked if we had any 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:49.439 thoughts about the Cecil Hotel, which, um, if you were 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:53.720 following maccabre stories a few years ago, you may remember 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.959 from a woman named Lisa Lamb who was found dead 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:02.160 in a water vault, is that the terminal was the 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.880 water tank and the water tank and it was like 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.640 a huge mystery because um, she she had she was 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.400 like using tumbler, I guess, so there was a lot 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.440 of stuff to pour over, like her you know, musings 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.600 on tumbler. And then there was a she had been 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:21.360 seen on the like surveillance cameras sort of wandering in 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:24.360 the hotel. There was a video and they it was 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.439 later referred to as the elevator game because the surveillance 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:31.280 video shows her getting into an elevator and like this weird. 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:33.640 I mean, there was no audio, you couldn't it was 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:35.240 hard to make sense of. But it looked as if 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.280 there was someone outside unseen on the surveillance tape, and 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.360 she was in the elevator and like almost like she 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.240 wanted to step out out of the elevator and then 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.800 was kind of hiding in the elevator from someone. So 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.080 it kind of sparked some conspiracy theories. And yeah, there 0:13:49.080 --> 0:13:51.400 were a lot of conspiracy theories about it because it 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.280 was like, it's impossible to get in the water tank 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.720 by yourself, so they're like somebody must have gone with her, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:58.800 Like how did she get up there? There were all 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.960 these did she close the back over her? Yeah, it's 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.480 really horrible. And then somebody wrote a really good long 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.840 piece about it that was on medium, and I think 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:10.800 that was about sort of going over the details and 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:12.599 it was like, hey, you know, the answer to this 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:15.440 mystery is that this person probably had like mental illness 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.240 and she had a psychotic break, a psychotic break, and 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.760 it's like not not that cool, right, I Mean, that 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.000 was the thing that as soon as it was kind 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:27.680 of like that the likelihood of her having been killed 0:14:27.680 --> 0:14:30.200 and put in this vault or whatever was seemed like 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.480 the least likely explanation. It just became very sad. But 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.960 regardless of Cecil has kind of like a creepy aura around. 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:40.280 It's haunted a f Yeah, yeah, it's super haunted because 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.680 it's an old ass hotel in downtown l A. It 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:47.240 gets all the shine as as being like, oh, the 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:54.480 one creepy hotel. They're all creepy. These are all my 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.360 favorite places in Last Angeles too. I had to say, 0:14:57.480 --> 0:14:59.600 like I wanted to talk about this just because I 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:01.240 was clean it out a hard driver. I was looking 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:02.720 for something on a hard drive, so I found all 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.680 these old pictures. Um, because I had done this um 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.960 kind of conceptual photo shoot for a project I've been 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.760 working on at the time. Uh and and did it 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:13.040 at the Cecil Hotel because I needed like a kind 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.240 of this before or after this happened. This was before 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.640 this would have been in like ten or twenty eleven 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:21.160 or something that would have been like two or three 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.400 years before this happened. Yeah, it was after they had 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:27.840 done this sort of um remodeling to kind of make 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:30.320 it more of a tourist hotel or like kind of 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.920 something like a low budget hotel. For like people who 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 would you know, be using hostels or something like that. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:37.960 They were trying to market themselves that way. This is 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.960 like the very beginnings of downtown starting to be rehabbed 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.160 in a way. But so there was like a coffee 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.600 shop out from but it wasn't really that operational, like 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.720 like all of these early efforts in downtown l A. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.840 It was like there was a thing that looked like gentrification, 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.440 but it didn't really work, like like nobody worked there. Yeah, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:57.280 like a lot of it is. They put it up. 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.280 They were like, we'll build a stage set of a 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.880 downtown and then people will fill it with real downtown 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:06.000 and then still have a crape shop that nobody ever 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:09.960 works at. That's probably most people experience downtown driving through it, 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.040 you know, it's not like I mean a lot of 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.840 the people who are downtown are working there and don't 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.840 have that much time to explore the quirky place. Like 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.640 the Cecil Hotel was always like a hotel for like 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.880 people passing through. It's like right right in the middle 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:27.720 of the heart of downtown. But they do keep trying 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.280 to flip it and make it like now it's a 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:32.520 fancy hotel and now it's gentrified and it just is 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.960 so scary but still so they are actually like the 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:39.680 people who own the Bowery here New York about it 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.200 and are going to try to make it into like 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:45.480 an ace, Like I actually think this is super interesting. 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:47.080 This is the main thing I want to talk about, 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:49.160 is like how long do you have to wait before 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.440 a place it's hunted becomes like something that people like 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.640 young urban professionals like are attracted to it and can 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.560 find it, like like think it's hip because the the 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:03.080 Black Dollia stayed there or something like. I was totally 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:05.600 into the Builtmore for a long time because it was 0:17:05.640 --> 0:17:08.040 the last place that the Black Dolly was seen and 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.840 it was at the bar, the gallery bar at the Biltmore, 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:14.199 which is incredible. It's one of the best bars, like 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:17.000 just for appearance alone. So I lived downtown for a while, 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:19.760 so I would go there and I would like wander 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:21.440 through the lobby of the ce Cil just because I 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.400 thought all these places were so cool. But like that 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.480 was I wasn't like rehabbing it. It It as like a 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.040 hip ace hotel. But I'm wondering how long does it take? 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:32.240 What's that window for where you can be like Okay, 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:36.480 we can turn this into a Ace hotel esque project 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.240 and and the kids will flock to it because ghosts 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.679 are hip now or what I feel like, I don't know, right, 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.240 And also, like the Chateau mormont Is, many people have 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.320 died there and there are many ghosts and that's part 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:50.840 of its appeal. I guess my mom stayed there once 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.119 and she said that, um, she was staying in a 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:55.919 room with a broken mirror and was like, she just 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.919 couldn't stay there. I have to move rooms, and I 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:02.240 feel like she just kept energy broken mirrors and like 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.679 ghostly things. But I talked to somebody. I went on 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.480 um this podcast Bizarre States a little while ago, and 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.639 they were talking about how they went to the Stanley Hotel, 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.359 which is one of the Shining hotels. They were like, 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:16.679 it actually wasn't scary at all. It was disappointingly unscary. 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.240 Somebody was like having a wedding there and we kept 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:21.320 being like, oh, we're trying to get spooky, and you 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.720 guys are just like having a wedding. They said that 0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.199 they kind of like downplay the spook nous because like 0:18:26.240 --> 0:18:28.720 they got bored of people only wanting it to be 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.800 a spooky Shining hotel and they're like, no, no, we're 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:33.760 also just a nice hotel. Well, they have a film 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:37.000 fest now called the Overlook Film Festival. It's like a 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.320 horror film festival and for the past two years, not 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:42.240 this year, but um, they've they've had it once once 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.320 I had at the Stanley Hotel and then the other 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.520 which is the one where where Stephen King wrote The 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.439 Shining there's one that he wrote it and then the 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.880 one that that they shot the Shining Net. Well, there's 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:56.119 two different shot it um in Pine Win Studios. They 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.160 built a set, but there's a couple of different hotels. 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.199 They Yeah, the exterior I think is the Stanley, and 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:09.399 then the interiors modeled after a hotel in Yosemite's I 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.920 think he wrote it in Colorado. I think that's yeah, 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.160 that's the Stanley. But yeah, the one in Yosemite that 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:19.120 the interior is based off of has a lot of 0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:23.320 like Native American themed stuff because it's in Yosemite. But 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.760 also that's like why people think The Shining is about 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:32.200 Jennifer Native Americans because it kind of is uh guys 0:19:32.240 --> 0:19:37.320 speaking of downtown l a uh we Binge to vary 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.600 degrees the Purge. Yes, over the past week. Um, the 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.440 first Purge just came out or not just came out 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.399 on July fourth. We talked this is one of the 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.159 first things we talked about doing for the podcast. And 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.679 then we're like, oh, but the movie doesn't come out 0:19:51.760 --> 0:19:54.320 until July, and we're like, well, that gives us so 0:19:55.000 --> 0:19:57.679 a lot of time to watch some Purges. Molly and 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.760 I are not completely caught up on all of the 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:03.439 p ridges because it turns out that binging the Purge 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:08.040 is also like a tremendously stressful and depressing experience. Who knew, 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:10.879 who knew? Who knew it would be that way? Um, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.480 but yeah, I had seen the first one when just 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.800 when it came out on v O D, so it 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.800 was probably or something I think it came out in 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.000 and then I watched it right when it came out, 0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:23.440 So it had been a couple of years, but I 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:30.159 remembered it as fun. I remembered as we first loved it. 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.119 Anarchy is the best in the somebody asked me recently 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:37.280 to rank them, and having not watched all of them recently, 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.200 I still would put Anarchy at the top. I think 0:20:40.240 --> 0:20:42.760 Anarchy is the best one. So so I watched the 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:46.480 first one and the second one, and then I'll be honest, 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.880 I couldn't couldn't do the third one. I'd had enough purging. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.720 I was like, man, I gotta watch something really dumb 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.000 to chase this. Well, what was it dumb? Just so 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:58.800 that we're in on the all right, there we go, 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.600 there we go. You know it was a Christmas episode, 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.399 Good Purge, Purge, Taste cleaner. Um. Yeah, but the second 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.320 Purges all takes place in downtown l A, which is 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:12.680 why we're talking about it. And I was like, oh, 0:21:12.680 --> 0:21:15.080 of course, I only love this movie. It's all about 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.440 like just running around through downtown l A. Yeah, with 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:25.439 Matt Saracen. Also Frank Grillo. Yeah. And who's then in 0:21:25.480 --> 0:21:28.560 the third one as well? Yeah? I mean because not 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.520 in in the most recent one. So I was wondering 0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.280 if they were going to try to sell Frank Grillo 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.800 as a kind of thread throughout the franchise, if not 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.240 an actual hero, then at least like a connecting thread. 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.480 But he couldn't have been. He couldn't have the first 0:21:40.600 --> 0:21:45.960 first eight. You know, Well, it's unclear how much time 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.200 passes between the first Purge and by that I mean 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.479 the most recent movie, not the first Purge. No, that's aasing. 0:21:53.480 --> 0:21:55.280 Two is you're like, the second Purge is about the 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.280 sixth Purge. Okay, wait, so the first one is supposed 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.680 to be two, right, so that's the fifth that this 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.040 is like the the initial Purge. But then there's the yeah, 0:22:05.119 --> 0:22:09.800 the Purge anarchy is rights the following year. Let's explain 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:11.760 the Purge to listeners who might not know how the 0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.440 Purge works. Everybody knows about that person. I did not 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:18.200 know how it worked. How the Purge is of series 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:21.639 of horror films. They're not sequels. They are all about 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.720 one idea and different takes on the same idea. They're 0:22:24.840 --> 0:22:29.760 created by a guy named Jason Demonica James Demonica rather, no, 0:22:29.840 --> 0:22:32.960 I confused him and before the Purge for writing the 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.240 movie Jack Yes, where Robin Williams ages four times faster 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.400 than he Just the concept is that it's some at 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.760 some point in the in the near future, America has 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:46.919 has elected a party like a super right wing the 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:50.720 New Founding Fathers of America, the New Founding Fathers of 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:54.719 America and f A because the crime and whatever like, 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:57.480 there's so there's so many problems in in America and 0:22:57.520 --> 0:23:01.280 somebody decides that they can all be solved once a year. Uh, 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.679 for a twenty four hour period, all crime is legal, 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:09.560 including murders especially. I thought it was twelve hours. I 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.640 thought it was seven pm to seven am once a year, 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:15.359 but I may be wrong, but that's why. Yeah, it is, 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:18.560 it is. It's only twelve hours. It's only twelve hours, 0:23:18.560 --> 0:23:21.320 so it's yeah, it's it's I guess it's framed by 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.760 the n f f A as like, well, there's so 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.120 much unrest, We're going to solve it by having everyone 0:23:26.240 --> 0:23:29.960 expressed their violence during get it all out. During this 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:34.600 twelve hour period, you can't be tried for anything legal. 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:39.720 Hospitals are closed. Importantly, I think government officials are protected 0:23:40.600 --> 0:23:44.880 when you kill the third until per election year, and 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:48.840 all rich people are are protected because they can afford 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:51.520 to like armorize their house. But as we're seeing in 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:53.879 the first one, it doesn't always work. First one is 0:23:53.920 --> 0:23:57.880 like a home invasion movie about Ethan Hawk and Searcy 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:03.560 Uh in a house in Chatsworth, Um, and they get 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:06.920 it kind of makes no sense. He's a security expert, 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.640 so he's re installed all the systems in the neighborhood, 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:12.920 but that kind of was like beside the point, Like 0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:15.760 it really just is like a home invasion movie about 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.280 the Purge that focuses on this one couple, like a 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:23.360 homeless black guy tries to enter this suburban community. They 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.639 take him in like because there's just the scuffle and 0:24:26.680 --> 0:24:32.480 then they're keeping him. But the like white evil preps 0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:36.000 and blazers that that come and try to terrorize them 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.040 want want to take the guy away from them so 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.600 that they can murder him. So it's sort did this 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:43.280 chamber play. I read about the making of it. A 0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.080 lot of it was like we we wrote it because 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:48.080 it was cheap to make it, all right, that's like 0:24:48.280 --> 0:24:50.840 that's ingenious, genius. And then in the second one they 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.400 expand the world of the Purge because they have more money, 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:56.880 because they have more money, and uh, it's but it's 0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:58.800 the same I think as the first one, Like it's 0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.120 all kind of cozy catast fee, which is like where 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:03.160 it's like a group of survivors trying to get through, 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.280 you know, something insane. It's kind of like just a 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.080 post apocalyptic movie, but the post apocalypse only lasts for 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.960 twelve hours at a time, and if you break the 0:25:12.040 --> 0:25:15.080 rules during the purge, then you get executed after the purge. 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.119 I forgot about that. That's one of the things is 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.160 if you break the rules, if you like do something 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:21.320 you're not supposed to, there's some rules you can It 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.919 was it's something about the level of weapons. Guns are okay, 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.680 but not to your gas or something. I was really 0:25:28.720 --> 0:25:31.360 into the rules. I don't know why. I just that's 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:33.520 as a horror film, I think that makes it really 0:25:33.560 --> 0:25:35.760 good because, like I think most horror films have a 0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:38.000 set of rules, and it's all about like when the 0:25:38.119 --> 0:25:40.000 rules get broken or if the rules are going to 0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:42.359 get broken. So that's like kind of built into the 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:44.959 purge Sherris and I think it's really smart. But I 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.560 also like that it tends to and now with the 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:51.240 fourth one, also the recurring imagery is, yeah, like a 0:25:51.280 --> 0:25:53.760 bunch of like middle or lower class people kind of 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:57.960 like huddling together in their like dumpy apartments and trying 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:02.320 to just like survive together. These that wild political is 0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:04.800 what I'm not really you know. I feel like James 0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:07.879 Demonica was was kind of avoiding talking about that up 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.879 until the release of this one. Um. I think he 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:14.360 was talking about it also during election year two. Well, 0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:18.600 the second one, the second one came out, there's some 0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:21.479 stuff in it that's very like like at the end, 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.320 there's like a guy with like a scary American flag 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.240 hat who's like the scariest guy. And I was like, 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:30.679 this is like, this is directly just maga hats. But 0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:34.399 what's crazy is that it does kind of accidentally predict 0:26:34.600 --> 0:26:36.440 I mean it it has its finger on the pulse 0:26:36.480 --> 0:26:38.320 in a way that's kind of it's kind of hard 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.280 to watch because it was like, this reminds me way 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:44.199 too much of reality exactly. You know, there have been 0:26:44.200 --> 0:26:46.080 a bunch of pieces that have kind of broken broken 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.760 this down. There's a good one on vox Um. But 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:52.399 the first one it was kind of like, you know, 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.399 just playing off the Home invasion and like, you know, 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:58.720 almost like the Hunger Games aspect of the government pitting 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.240 citizens against each other was almost like an incidental thing. 0:27:01.600 --> 0:27:03.959 And then this in the second one, they brought in 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:07.440 like this class anxiety. They brought in mistrust of the government. 0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.000 In the second one, it was like a really big 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.280 thing because there was you know, you have to watch 0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:14.399 like the YouTube channels to get the real dirt on 0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.840 what's going to find out that the Purge sucks in 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:20.040 the second one. I mean, I don't even know if 0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:21.320 they allude to it in the first one or if 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:23.520 they decided in the second one that this was the thing, 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:26.320 if they had this all along. But the whole thing 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.600 about the first one is just like the illusion of 0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:31.840 this being a thing about families versus like some kind 0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:35.400 of marauding outsiders, right, kind of gets broken down in 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:39.240 like social and racial and economic terms in the second one. Yeah. 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.480 In the second one, it's like you find out there's 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:48.600 a counterinsurgency against the Purge, the consistence counter pergers Williams 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:55.439 so good, it's amazing. Fuck the Purge, Yeah, fuck the 0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.640 new Founding Fathers of America, because it's great. It really, 0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:01.240 it's great. So yeah, And the second one you find 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:03.879 out that the Purge is basically just a scam for 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.679 rich people to kill poor people, and that they have 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:10.879 started hiring like outside contractors, that the government is like 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.959 sending in people basically to like kill people during the purge, 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:18.400 just to like kill more poor people during the purge, 0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.320 and that they use the fact that poor people are 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:26.119 like excited about the Purge like against them because everybody's 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.280 like this is my right, like these are my freedoms. 0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.280 A lot of it seems very gun control e because 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.199 it's like people who are like I have nothing, but 0:28:33.280 --> 0:28:35.359 like one day a year I get to go shoot 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:39.360 whoever I want, and like that makes everything worthwhile. Yeah, 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:44.320 they actually like name check and the new one. So 0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:47.160 the new one is basically about um the first Purge 0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.040 as it's called, but um that they do a trial 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:54.200 run of it on Staten Island. And of course the 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:56.880 first one is Chatsworth, the second one is downtown l A. 0:28:57.440 --> 0:29:00.360 The third one is apparently was shot in these ends 0:29:00.400 --> 0:29:03.080 but takes place in d C. But um, it was 0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.720 shot in Providence. So a friend of the pot who 0:29:06.360 --> 0:29:08.120 went to Rizzy sent us a picture of when they 0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:12.480 built the giant guillotine in the alleyway outside her studio. 0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:16.719 She was like, it was actually like everything was blocked 0:29:16.720 --> 0:29:19.320 off because they were filming the Purge, so like nobody 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.120 could like get food to their studio. And I was like, oh, 0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.520 so it was like the Purse And I was like, 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:31.080 what about like Purge mates the new ones in of course, 0:29:31.360 --> 0:29:33.400 plenty of jokes to be made about that. But the 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.120 thing that they set up is that they so they 0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.640 pay everybody. If they stay, they get five thousand dollars. 0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.680 And so all these people who are like super poor, like, well, 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.600 I'm not going to turn down five thou dollars if 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.920 I can just stay in my house and like you know, 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.760 wait for it to blow over. But then they pay 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.240 people more if they say that they're going to participate 0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.840 in it. Um and then they wear these um they 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.000 are given these contacts so that they can monitor their activity, 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:03.680 and the contacts turned their eyes blue. Uh it's so nuts. 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.880 But but so the thing that the thing is crazy 0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:11.320 is that um, when they when they start the experiment, uh, 0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:14.920 nobody's killing each other, Like they're just like having parties 0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:16.920 and kind of just like hanging down. Some people are 0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:18.800 like stealing money from a T M S or whatever. 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:21.760 So then that's when they start sending in the outsiders, 0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.640 and then also broadcasting when they're like, oh, there's been 0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.040 all this gig activity at whatever street and whatever street, 0:30:28.280 --> 0:30:30.720 and then broadcasting that back out to the people who 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:33.960 live in sat Niland, being like, look at your neighbors, 0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:35.920 look at how crazy they're being, Like you should be 0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.240 afraid of them, which just felt like such a chilling 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.800 I had never seen that kind of laid out in 0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.640 those terms, or like a narrative that allows that kind 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.760 of dynamic to be laid out in those terms, which 0:30:46.760 --> 0:30:48.880 I thought was so so smart. I was so impressed 0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:51.680 with it. It's very smart. I mean, weirdly, this is 0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:54.040 a genre that I think we all love, which is 0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:59.000 like weird sort of side science fiction of like this 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.600 could be happening now. It's not like quite in the future. 0:31:01.720 --> 0:31:04.000 It's like this feels like now, but like a slightly 0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.480 more insane version of now, but like reality becomes more 0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:10.960 like the Purge every day. If you would know that, 0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.719 describe who did Jack would have basically predicted or current dystopia. 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.080 Can you confirm, Emily, is there really a pair of 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:22.760 people in the first Purge named Anna and Elsa or 0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:27.560 any so in the first the first Purge meaning the 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.760 most decent Purge. I heard that there are two sex 0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:35.160 workers whose names are Anna and Elsa, which, of course 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:38.120 I mean there are two sex workers, but I don't 0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:41.880 I didn't remember catching their names. Curious if true, Well, 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:46.440 they're not. They're not Scandinavian. If did you guys ever 0:31:46.480 --> 0:31:51.120 see Death Rays five thousand? Okay, so there's like a 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:54.120 lot of Roger Corman movies that are about things like 0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:57.800 this because they're like exploitation movies and they're like an 0:31:57.800 --> 0:32:00.000 excuse for everyone to like kill each other in a movie. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.920 Be Death Threes five thousand is a car race where 0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.560 you get points for running people over five thousand or 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.800 two thousand. I think it's two thousand. Yeah, So it's 0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:10.840 always people in a car race. It's basically like a 0:32:10.920 --> 0:32:14.320 like a gumball rally, but you get points for running 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.560 people over, So the more people you run over, the 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:19.400 more points you get. And then David Carradine is like 0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.080 a guy whose name is Frankenstein who turns out to 0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:26.480 be like against the death Race, I think um, but 0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:31.320 also Battle Royale Um, a movie we all love. Have 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.720 you seen Punishment Park? Anyone? Punishment Park? I think it's 0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:37.840 like on Criterion, But it's just like an art movie 0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.920 about like it's a punishment park. It's like a theme 0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:47.760 park where where hippies get chased by cops. Basically, so 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.280 there's a thing where it's really obvious, like an exploitation 0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:53.640 type movie thing where it's like, okay, the bad government 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.800 and this movie has created a set of circumstances that 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.120 create a very entertaining movie for us, and you can 0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:00.800 kind of like lay at and like as long as 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.480 you accept those terms, you understand, like you know, there 0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:07.440 can be some social commentary, but also you're like enjoying 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.880 the violence and on its own terms. In a way, 0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:14.480 it's hard to watch sometimes because you're like a little 0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.880 bit it's just it's hard to watch. It's disturbing. But 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.040 I would argue that compared to things like funny games, 0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:26.160 there's so much more. They're also funny. It's not like 0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.680 torture porn. It doesn't feel just like people getting tortured 0:33:29.880 --> 0:33:32.320 and like, oh, isn't this bad. It's like a little 0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:35.280 bit funny. It's a little bit like more poppy or 0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:38.800 something that makes it well. It's also it's interesting to 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.440 see the different iterations of it, like it opens up, 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.680 and especially to end it with the idea that like 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.440 there was a time a long time ago when it 0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.680 was an experiment and you could escape because it's just 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:50.680 sat An Island, and then in each subsequent film that's 0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.880 a race, so it's like you can't. It's like got 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:55.920 like hyper normalization too. It's like, oh, this thing that 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.440 seemed really fucked up when they first announced it. Then 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.080 everybody just got used to it really fast, which is 0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:03.400 like something we've all been dealing with a lot that 0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.560 can't happen, and then it's like, oh, it's happening, and 0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:09.319 everyone just sort of like got used to it. And 0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.000 it's also the question of how do you kind of 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.400 moderate your response to something very extreme? And in the purge, 0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.400 the good guys will fight back with the same violence 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:20.520 that the bad guys are fighting with, and you know, 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:24.120 it's it makes you really consider like how extreme things 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.720 have to get before you are complicit just by nothing. 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:31.120 Like the counter perjurers in the second one are kind 0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:33.200 of like they seem like kind of like patterned after 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:35.960 the Black Panthers or something, but you know they're militant. 0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:40.440 They're like the government is a bunch of militant, insane people, 0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.680 and like we have to fight back against them using 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.399 like things that are illegal, because like they're doing things 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:50.480 that should be illegal. I just think like there are 0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:52.600 there are parts of in all the movies where it's 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.160 like the only way to fight back is to just 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.200 like do more violence. But I think that the most 0:34:56.239 --> 0:35:00.440 the most recent one definitely interrogates that more and it's 0:35:00.520 --> 0:35:04.040 like I don't ever feel like there actually is less violence, 0:35:04.080 --> 0:35:06.680 I would say in the most recent one, And it's 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:09.800 more just about like this sort of sense of dread 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.319 and like kind of this closing, there's a lot of dread. Um. 0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.680 It wasn't maybe as cathartic because I wanted it to be. 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:19.040 I was sort of just like, oh, like this also 0:35:19.160 --> 0:35:23.759 feels like things feel a lot right now. Um, But yeah, 0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.000 I mean it's also like it's obviously none of it 0:35:26.040 --> 0:35:29.520 feels very far fetched at this point especially, but it 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:32.200 also was just making me think about, like if it's 0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:35.319 a comment on like sundown or laws, which were the 0:35:35.400 --> 0:35:40.000 super racist laws that everywhere had, especially there's been like 0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:42.400 some incidents in l A. And somebody was talking about, like, 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.279 you know, Glendale being such a nice town, and then 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.520 somebody was like, well, you know, Glendale had like sundown 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.959 laws until like very recently, and for people who don't 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:54.279 know what sundown laws are, it was basically you know, 0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.799 and it wasn't It wasn't an actual It was like 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.480 an unwritten rule understood thing that if you were a 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.359 person of all or you could not be in that 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.560 place after dark. It was an unwritten rule of like, 0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:06.160 if a person of colors in this white neighborhood after dark, 0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.440 then like whatever happens to them is like I'm not 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:13.160 gonna you won't be prosecuted for that. Yeah, so man, 0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:18.719 the purge, the purge. Well, you can either call or 0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.440 text us at two four oh four six night or 0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.440 you can send us an email at Nightcall Podcast at 0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:27.640 gmail dot com. Um Also, as always, if you're enjoying 0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.880 the podcast, please rate, review, subscribe, and follow us on 0:36:31.920 --> 0:36:35.399 social media. We have a Facebook group Nightcall Podcast, uh, 0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:40.520 Instagram Nightcall Podcast, and Twitter Nightcall Pod. And now let's 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:46.920 roll that beautiful being footage HI called podcasts. I'm not 0:36:47.000 --> 0:36:50.279 sure if this belongs on Nightcall, but we're trying to 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:53.600 ask for any advice speaking like that. I'm a twenty 0:36:53.680 --> 0:36:56.839 year old guy living in Berkeley, California. I just got 0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:00.520 our college that are pretty useless degree on I think 0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:04.440 my inters Luckily I don't want you, just didn't want it. 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.960 Only what advice you have for people getting out of 0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.600 college who I have no idea what to see with 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.920 their lives. Non we passed into fin any particular acts 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.080 to make it a clear, I do want to be 0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:20.800 able to support my family, be successful with the future, 0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.279 but for strange days and momentas. This is what I've 0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.239 been thinking about, and I'm sure any people think about this. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:33.360 If you have any advice, please do some podcast. Thank you. 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.399 I feel like we've been talking about this in some 0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:40.880 form or another, Uh, colors, just asking about you know, 0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:45.560 post college general anxiety, trying to figure out what you're 0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.680 gonna do, you know, big questions like that. Um, and 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.919 we've certainly been thinking about that, I think in terms 0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:55.360 of our jobs and how we came to our jobs 0:37:55.400 --> 0:38:00.360 and all the weird uncertainty that proceeded us having the 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:04.239 various lines of work that we have. UM. So yeah, 0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.120 I mean, do you guys have any advice that you 0:38:06.160 --> 0:38:13.239 have for our caller? Uh. On the way here, we 0:38:13.239 --> 0:38:15.759 were like, we're gonna have a fun time answering this 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:19.439 question because we're the worst people to answer it. But UM, 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.280 we've been talking, all of the three of us about 0:38:23.400 --> 0:38:29.120 the general kind of like just implosion of online media, um, 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:34.200 the Univision, sale of the Onion, a V club, the 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.799 Gizmoto media group. I mean, it's just kind of endless. Uh. 0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:40.120 Every week it seems like a new place that we 0:38:40.200 --> 0:38:42.120 either one of us used to write for we or 0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:46.000 we're all big fans of is Folding. And I think, um, 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:49.680 right after we graduated from college, that was a time 0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:52.800 when people were you know, if you had a blog, 0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:56.320 it was like kind of embarrassing slightly. There's a time 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.799 when people were embarrassed to admit how much time they 0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.719 spent on the internet, right, like to tend not to 0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.720 be on the internet. You'd say like, oh a friend 0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:05.799 of mine said, and it's like, no, they weren't your friend, 0:39:05.800 --> 0:39:08.160 and they didn't say it out loud on a blog. 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:10.759 And then there's like a point when it turned where 0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:13.400 suddenly everybody was like open about how much time they 0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:15.120 spent on the internet. And then it became kind of 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.320 a joke like ha ha, we all spend our whole 0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:21.319 lives on the internet, extremely online. And then some of 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:26.080 us got paid to right on the internet for a while. Um, 0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:28.879 I totally naively thought that like the money and add 0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.040 stuff from magazines would just like eventually move to the web, 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:36.160 you know that, Like, well, magazines did just such a diffuse. 0:39:37.040 --> 0:39:39.160 I don't even know that it did. Yeah, I mean 0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.640 I did. For like fifteen minutes, it felt like it 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.640 was any moment. Now we're going to figure out how 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.279 to monetize blogs the way that we monetize magazines with 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.640 like big ads. And then it turned out that's way 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:56.160 harder than anyone thought, or just it's because it works differently, 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:59.120 because the web had been around and creating good content 0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:02.360 for free for so along, but nobody had really acknowledged 0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:06.160 it as a legitimate source. I think everybody was like 0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:11.200 very skeptical and kind of um took offense at reading 0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.000 like an advertorial, having a pop up ad, having like 0:40:14.120 --> 0:40:16.960 embedded ad links. It was very offensive. It was like, 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:19.440 this is supposed to be free, this is supposed to 0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.000 be something we all create together. But I think between 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:27.000 like two thousand seven and it seemed reasonable all of 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.360 a sudden to believe that there was like an actual 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.600 career to be had. I don't think any of us 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:36.480 were like trying to get into. I mean, I think 0:40:36.520 --> 0:40:39.239 that the way I can generalize a little bit of 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:42.359 advice to break it outside of just the media thing, 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:45.440 but just I think some something we've all kind of shared. 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.319 I think we all kind of thought of ourselves as 0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.799 writers in somewhere or another, and then this sort of 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.080 opportunity came up, or like you could sense that there 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.040 was some kind of gold rush happening maybe two steps 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.800 to the left of what maybe we would have envisioned 0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:05.440 as being a writer's job or something, and so you 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.880 kind of just sort of make that shift over, well, 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:12.000 this is basically like what I want to do. This 0:41:12.080 --> 0:41:14.240 is the way that I could maybe see some money 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.480 for it. And I think in those times too, this 0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.640 is like a theme I think of our generation, Like 0:41:19.840 --> 0:41:22.200 you come into everything with a fear of selling out, 0:41:22.320 --> 0:41:26.880 and you get that worn down and then they're like, please, 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:31.479 please may I sell out? Ye give me to sell out? 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.160 You know. That's the thing is like we graduated kind 0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:36.920 of right into the recession, and so a lot of 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:39.440 the things that were of the recession I just thought 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.840 were like what happens when you're twenty two, which is 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.920 like nobody wants to hire you and you can't get 0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.000 jobs you are overqualified for, and then you start applying 0:41:49.040 --> 0:41:51.520 for like retail and food service jobs and you can't 0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:53.640 get those either because like everybody else is trying to 0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.440 get those, And I think you should take the most 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.480 interesting shitty job you can, like apply I for an 0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:02.719 array of things and they don't have to at all 0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.040 correspond to what you studied in college and pick the 0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:09.440 most interesting one, because the interesting ones always lead to 0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:12.560 something else, but the uninteresting ones take up so much 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:14.439 of your time and leave you with nothing. I think 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:16.759 I would I would add to the interesting ones if 0:42:16.760 --> 0:42:19.000 you can find an interesting one that also has a 0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.879 heart out every day, which is more and more rare 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:25.600 than more and more that jobs are our our telecommunication. 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:29.200 Something we talked about a lot is being able to 0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:31.919 have a division between your work life and your life 0:42:31.960 --> 0:42:35.160 life is like very important and maybe not something that 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.680 any of us like knew we needed to prioritize when 0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.319 we started because we were just like so excited to 0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:44.160 get paid on something. Yeah, I'm assuming that there's kind 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.000 of a deadline on this that you need to start 0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:47.920 making money soon. So I would say, if you need 0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.719 to like find a job that you're telling yourself you're 0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.680 not going to have forever, but it's like the job 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.960 you have all you're figuring stuff out, then then definitely 0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.319 have one that you can walk away from when you 0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:00.680 leave it, and don't like pressure your self to get 0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:02.400 the job you're going to have for the rest of 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.560 your life, because those jobs don't exist anymore anyway, and 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.840 nobody has that. Nobody has that, And also they secretly 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.879 suck because they know that they have cashet with you, 0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.160 and so they can treat you like garbage. But if 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:18.319 there's something that's like a little quirky that you are 0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:20.920 into but that maybe other people wouldn't be, then at 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:22.759 least you get a great story, and at least you 0:43:22.800 --> 0:43:24.800 get an idea of what you liked about the weird 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:27.359 thing and didn't like. Whereas I think, like, I mean, 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.640 definitely the worst jobs I've worked. We're not in food 0:43:30.680 --> 0:43:33.640 service or retail, but in offices doing nothing for a 0:43:33.640 --> 0:43:36.879 company that didn't matter to me because it just you leave. 0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.560 It's like it sucks your brain dry, it hasn't given 0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:43.000 you any interesting experiences. You're interacting with the same people 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.560 all the time. There's like it's a higher pressure job, 0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:48.320 so you can't really leave it when you leave. Two 0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:51.520 of the people that I most uh kind of have 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:55.799 been interested in their careers since we all graduated. One 0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:58.560 of them was a girl in a box at the 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.279 Standard hotel, and I was like, like, should I apply 0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:04.440 to this? I don't think I'm cute enough to apply 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.640 to this, But also like I would feel crappy about myself. 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.160 She went through that whole thing and she wrote a 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.759 book and it was great. Yeah, I think a lot 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:13.880 of probably there was a time when it feels like 0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:15.440 a lot of people were like, I'm going to do 0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.400 something weird, so then I can write a book about it. 0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.439 But if but even if it's just like it would 0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.640 it would pay you the same amount as waiting tables. 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:23.399 But at least even if even if you don't write 0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.959 a book's like you have the story and you're thinking, like, god, 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:27.759 I hate it for these reasons, I've got to get out. 0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:29.960 So it like motivates you more because you got that fire, 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:32.640 and it puts you in a situation you wouldn't have 0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.759 been in normally, with people that you might not have 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.760 been in with normally, even if it's unpleasant, like nothing's 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:39.719 going to be forever at that age. Oh, this is 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:41.680 the other thing I would say, don't get married to 0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:46.600 the idea that your best work you're gonna don't get married. Also, 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.640 don't get right when you get out of Hey, I'm 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.319 back from my no I thought, you know, like like 0:44:53.440 --> 0:44:56.080 don't get married when you're twenty two. But also we 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.279 also don't do that honestly, but also just don't fall 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.800 in love with this idea it that you will create 0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.799 your best work, or that you're the prime of your 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:07.000 professional and or creative or whatever you're trying to do. 0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:11.840 Life is post collegiate, because it's not, like I speaking 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:14.560 from a very specific instance, this goes back to why 0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:17.640 I was at the c Cell Hotel, Like I graduated 0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:20.799 from school. I had I got a script optioned. In 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.560 heavy scared quotes, I don't want to get too much 0:45:22.600 --> 0:45:26.600 into the legal aspects of it, and it didn't happen 0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:29.600 because it just didn't happen and there wasn't the funny 0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:31.680 for it. It It was also two eight or two nine, 0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:36.240 like nobody was funny independent film. But had it happened, 0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.160 like that would be the end of my career because 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:40.520 it was a terrible script and it would have been 0:45:40.520 --> 0:45:43.200 a really bad movie. I wouldn't be able to still 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.719 accumulate experiences and like think about what I actually want 0:45:46.719 --> 0:45:48.600 to do instead of like hurrying up after school to 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:50.360 be like this is my genius piece of work that 0:45:50.440 --> 0:45:52.640 I'm going to do, like as a college graduate. So 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:55.239 don't like let yourself like not be a student for 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:57.440 a while. Well as a rebuttal to that, though, I 0:45:57.440 --> 0:45:59.000 think my life would have been a lot better if 0:45:59.040 --> 0:46:01.400 I just booked that role in the movie that I 0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:04.200 auditioned for pretty much right out of college, that was 0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:09.400 Golden Retrievers in Space. So I'm just saying, like, sometimes 0:46:09.440 --> 0:46:16.279 you yeah, I would say my main advice, not that 0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:18.799 I'm the person to give advice, but yeah, don't do 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:23.239 something you hate. And it's okay to like get life 0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:28.080 experience and not think that you have to like find 0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:30.600 your passion immediately and do it. It's like picking a major. 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.640 It's like you give yourself some time in college to 0:46:32.760 --> 0:46:35.520 pick a major, give yourself some time out of college 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:36.840 to like find out what you actually want to do. 0:46:36.880 --> 0:46:38.880 And if you want to be around people, be around 0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.480 people and go party because you should. You feel like 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:46.440 you shouldn't because now you're an adult. Definitely later your 0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.279 bones will hurt. Your bones will hurt, and right now, 0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:50.560 like everything is so bad. I just wish I was 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:53.720 twenty years old and was like, just put it away 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.400 and party, but I can. I just read that I 0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:57.759 wouldn't be able to party. I feel like I'm glad that, 0:46:57.920 --> 0:47:01.719 like nothing nothing category is mich was happening, and it 0:47:01.800 --> 0:47:04.160 was just, yeah, we were like Y two K partying. 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.160 I would have loved to be at a Y two K, right, 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:07.960 but no, I was not. I would I basically just 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.279 wanted to be at the party at the end of 0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.160 strange days. But I wanted to be um an Independence 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.080 Day when the strippers on the roof and she's holding 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.839 up the sign to welcome the aliens, that's me. Yeah. 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.719 I mean, one really honest piece of advice that I 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.440 would give is like, if you know, if you can 0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.880 learn how to program, do that, you've just gone full dad. 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:29.040 But it's true and something everyone's dad has already I know, 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:31.520 but I'm just like, the thing about writing is like 0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:36.799 everyone gets paid completely different amounts of money, just you know, 0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:39.160 depending on who you're doing it for and how much 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:41.839 money they have. And sometimes you hear people who used 0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:43.440 to work in magazines and they tell you how much 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.360 money you used to be able to make in magazines, 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:49.680 and then you have to go like walk into the ocean. However, 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:52.279 let me just say, how many times has either your 0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.680 dad or someone else's dad, or just the person who's 0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:56.760 not a dad been like, Molly, you should learn to program, 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.239 because great advice, but I'm not going to do it 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:02.839 because of plastics of our My brain doesn't know how 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:06.040 to program. But my friends Sarah, who went to film 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.879 school then also taught herself how to program and now 0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:10.880 she works as a programmer. I'm just saying, it's a 0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:13.600 field where people actually get hired to do a thing 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.720 and they need it. So I'm like vibrating with happiness. Also, 0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:20.760 you can't tell Molly and I are out of the garage. 0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.920 We are in a studio. 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