Speaker 1: It's two fifteen am at the Hotel Cecil and you're
Speaker 1: listening to Night Call. Welcome tonight Call. I am Emily Yoshida.
Speaker 1: I am back with my Nightcall friends on the West Coast,
Speaker 1: Tests and Molly. Sorry, usually we introduce ourselves, but I'm
Speaker 1: just too excited now, so I'm introducing you guys for you, um,
Speaker 1: you've been gone so long you have to just take
Speaker 1: over entirely of course. Well for this is my show now. Yes,
Speaker 1: it feels great. It feels like it's been forever. But
Speaker 1: I was away, as as was detailed on the show,
Speaker 1: marrying somebody I met on a podcast, met on this podcast.
Speaker 1: Technically it is podcast grandfather, yes, grandfather grand like I
Speaker 1: would think of it as like a like a mother, grandmother, grandmother,
Speaker 1: because there's there's been other incarnations along the true Yeah,
Speaker 1: there have been. There's a there's a there's a m
Speaker 1: c U of the Girls and Hoodies. Yeah. We talked
Speaker 1: about this last week about all the podcasts that we've had,
Speaker 1: Molly's five podcasts. I just keep starting more. I can't
Speaker 1: stop podcasting. Emily. Yeah, welcome back. Thank you. We missed
Speaker 1: you a me too. I really, I really wish that
Speaker 1: we could have podcasted like from Afar, because I feel
Speaker 1: like there are so many things I wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you guys about, especially when we were on our honeymoon.
Speaker 1: We got some really good texts from you at times
Speaker 1: that were like made sense to us, right, yes, wait,
Speaker 1: like what it's all kind of a fog. Oh you know,
Speaker 1: just like sometimes I'm wake very late at night and
Speaker 1: maybe it's daytime in Japan during that time, and you
Speaker 1: send a nice text of some forest crabs, and then
Speaker 1: all we talked about on this podcast while you're gone
Speaker 1: is the four forest craps. We need to spend a
Speaker 1: minute talking about the forest crabs. Well, also, you should
Speaker 1: just tell us every like, tell us all of the highlights,
Speaker 1: because your Instagram was full of some really good ones
Speaker 1: and what we have to get to the lost in
Speaker 1: Translation hotel. I felt like we were all on vacation together.
Speaker 1: We were good. Oh good. First, I rarely am on vacation,
Speaker 1: but I guess this is the first time I was
Speaker 1: on really on a vacation with Instagram stories, so I
Speaker 1: kind of I really liked falling back on Instagram stories
Speaker 1: instead of say Twitter to talk about whatever was going on,
Speaker 1: because it felt like I didn't have to explain or
Speaker 1: make a joke about whatever I was doing and just
Speaker 1: be like, look at this cool thing that I'm looking at,
Speaker 1: and that could be it. I didn't have to be
Speaker 1: a writer about it. So that felt like a kind
Speaker 1: of nice way to to share the vacation without being
Speaker 1: too without having the social media thing take it over.
Speaker 1: So there were so many cool things to look at. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and and that's the other thing I say
Speaker 1: about stories is it doesn't all need to go on
Speaker 1: your actual feed. It can just sort of like My
Speaker 1: only complain there about stories is that then they go away,
Speaker 1: and they go away. All I wanted was to see
Speaker 1: the forest craft I have. I saved the video of
Speaker 1: the forest craft, so I I made the joke on
Speaker 1: on Instagram that they were confused and thought it was
Speaker 1: the ocean. I think it's more like they just got
Speaker 1: washed up from a nearby creek and we're just like
Speaker 1: wandering on the pavement. So we went during the rainy season,
Speaker 1: which I think is kind of the reason why our
Speaker 1: tickets weren't in a zillion dollars when we were out there. Um,
Speaker 1: and it really wasn't that bad. But the one day
Speaker 1: where it really rained a ton was of course, the
Speaker 1: one day we decided we were going to be walking
Speaker 1: around Kyoto and doing like having our most touristy day.
Speaker 1: It was so beautiful though. Yeah, it was nice, like
Speaker 1: it was very atmospheric, and it was nice because it
Speaker 1: wasn't too crowded because of the weather. But um, the
Speaker 1: side note, um, like, very shortly after I got married, Um,
Speaker 1: I bought my first pair of Teva's um and I
Speaker 1: feel like this like this transformation took place over the
Speaker 1: course of one week where I'm like, I love my Tevas,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go be a tourist and wearing my squashy sandals.
Speaker 1: You entered the seriously because like, when it's raining that much,
Speaker 1: you can't even really wear boots because it'll just get
Speaker 1: inside the boot. So I just thought, why fight it,
Speaker 1: Just be barefoot and let the water wash over. You
Speaker 1: became a forest crab yourself. I did, Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: became slightly amphibious. So we were leaving um Nansen g
Speaker 1: which is this huge Buddhist temple, and of course as
Speaker 1: we're leaving, like the five PM was the closing time,
Speaker 1: so we couldn't be inside anymore. And then it just
Speaker 1: starts pouring down rain. So we were just like running,
Speaker 1: like bolting down this path um trying to get back
Speaker 1: to the subway, which basically took an hour because it
Speaker 1: starts lighten up, and then we'd start walking and then
Speaker 1: I would start pouring again, and we'd like find shelter
Speaker 1: under the nearest thing. But see, that sounds so nice
Speaker 1: because we are in a place that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: rainy season anymore. And I talked about how we look
Speaker 1: at the weather app every day and it says zero
Speaker 1: percent chance of rain for every entire week, for every
Speaker 1: entire year. It's like everything you can just fill in
Speaker 1: rain with whatever else you good, you want to have happened, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes it will be raining and it will say
Speaker 1: zero percent chance of rain. Sounds it was so it
Speaker 1: was so and it was it was really moisoking everything
Speaker 1: you posted. I was like, oh my god, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so crazy because we were there. We were staying. We're
Speaker 1: staying outside of Kyoto in this um like of yokam
Speaker 1: which is like the kind of a bed and breakfast,
Speaker 1: like the Japanese version of a bed and breakfast, and
Speaker 1: the one we stayed at It's like they had this
Speaker 1: river side thing where they turned off all the lights
Speaker 1: at a certain points so you could see the fireflies,
Speaker 1: which was so funny because it reminded you me of
Speaker 1: you Molly, because there were like three fireflies on the
Speaker 1: river when I saw the fire in New York and yeah,
Speaker 1: lost your ship? What are those? Well? I think I've
Speaker 1: said this before, but this is like a lot of
Speaker 1: l A kids, I know, have this thing. We're the
Speaker 1: only place we've ever seen fireflies is on pirates of
Speaker 1: the Caribbean. Yes, you know. And then that's like what
Speaker 1: I expect them to look like. And then when we
Speaker 1: saw them in real life, I was like, what they exist?
Speaker 1: I was looking for them here. Nobody tells you there's
Speaker 1: no fireflies l A. When I moved here, I was like,
Speaker 1: trained summer, where are the bugs? That the trade of mosquitoes?
Speaker 1: Well no, but now we have the mosquitoes. We now
Speaker 1: we also have some mosquitoes because you're getting but wait,
Speaker 1: but it's not raining. How do you have mosquitoes water?
Speaker 1: You know people have pools. There's the mighty l A River. Yes, Rory,
Speaker 1: wait at this bed and breakfast, did you have to
Speaker 1: have communal breakfast and dinner. Um, yes, it's a well
Speaker 1: everybody gets there on little table. It's okay, that's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like very formal. It's very old school communal tables.
Speaker 1: Worst nightmare. No no, no no, no, you don't have
Speaker 1: to you don't have to talk to anybody else. They
Speaker 1: accept huge exception, and I think not not a good
Speaker 1: trade off this This place, like many of these types
Speaker 1: of super traditional like I would say, like fancy real
Speaker 1: cons had geisha's, Like they come through and they like
Speaker 1: perform some kind of dance or whatever. I mean, I
Speaker 1: didn't know that this was a part of this hotel's
Speaker 1: deal when I booked it, and then I saw later on,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh that's interesting. I have very little
Speaker 1: interest in that. But okay, but it's like a mandatory
Speaker 1: part of your meeting that you have to like sit
Speaker 1: and watch the geisha performance. But you there, mic goes
Speaker 1: I like geishas and training. But uh, but then they
Speaker 1: come through and they talk like to each table and
Speaker 1: you have to talk to them and you have to
Speaker 1: talk to them. It's like one of them that came
Speaker 1: through and talked she spoke a little more English and
Speaker 1: it was okay, But then those of them mostly don't,
Speaker 1: and so I was speaking to them in Japanese, and
Speaker 1: my Japanese is really bad and also takes a lot
Speaker 1: of brain power for me to use, and especially at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I feel like like almost
Speaker 1: wiped out, like I cannot like speak Japanese like it
Speaker 1: just it would like take it out of me at
Speaker 1: the at the end of every day to try to
Speaker 1: have a conversation with the mico. But uh yeah, so
Speaker 1: that I would rather be at a communal table with
Speaker 1: other people who are staying at the hotel than than
Speaker 1: with what did you guys talk about? Like, oh, where
Speaker 1: are you from? And I found it to be supremely awkward,
Speaker 1: but like the drunk businessman who were there for dinner
Speaker 1: gotta gotta kick out of it, So I guess it's
Speaker 1: not really for me. What else did you see? And
Speaker 1: where else did you go? Are three main places we
Speaker 1: were with Kyoto Osaka and Tokyo Osaka is the best.
Speaker 1: We only spend a day there, but I really want
Speaker 1: to spend like a whole trip there next time I
Speaker 1: go to Japan, because it's um really really on and
Speaker 1: the food is amazing and people are just like it's
Speaker 1: more fun. But I wanted to tell you guys. So
Speaker 1: this campaign was started a few years ago in Kyoto
Speaker 1: to get more people to use public transportation and to
Speaker 1: use the subway. They decided, like the best tactic to
Speaker 1: attract people to the subway would be to make like
Speaker 1: cute anome girl mascots for the train. Um. And so
Speaker 1: it's called like the Moe Moe Kyoto like campaign. UM.
Speaker 1: And they have like they have this full cast of
Speaker 1: characters now, Like this started a while ago and so
Speaker 1: by now they've unveiled more and more characters. UM. And
Speaker 1: there's uh, like the main girl, she has like a brother,
Speaker 1: and then another one of her friends as a brother,
Speaker 1: and they're all these bios for them. And I think
Speaker 1: they made some kind of short animation, but it's just
Speaker 1: hilarious because like all of the subways are plastered with
Speaker 1: these ads of like these cute aunome girls like holding
Speaker 1: their their subway passes and like showing how cool and
Speaker 1: cute it is to have a subway. Doesn't work? Did
Speaker 1: people ride the subway more? I guess? I guess it's
Speaker 1: been successful because they've kept it up. Are they like
Speaker 1: moa versions of the trains like, are they supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a character who is the train? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: so they're right. Yeah, they're writers and I guess they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be like Kyoto residents. But they're also named
Speaker 1: after some of the different stops on the Kyoto subway. Um,
Speaker 1: it's so funny because they all have these official profiles.
Speaker 1: It's like somebody at this who works for the city.
Speaker 1: How do we get I know, it's amazing, but but
Speaker 1: there's one of the guys who's like kind of like
Speaker 1: a jockish guy wearing a pink kodie is named Takeru
Speaker 1: and say Takara attended the same high school as Yo
Speaker 1: and his best friend, who's like the other boy there.
Speaker 1: He has an easy going and optimistic side. After graduating
Speaker 1: from high school, his desire to become a breadmaker let
Speaker 1: him to study at a bakery in Kyoto. He likes
Speaker 1: how people can buy bread around Kyoto subway stations. Now
Speaker 1: I'm just picturing somebody riding the train and falling in
Speaker 1: love with one of these characters. It seems as though
Speaker 1: that happens, and people are collecting the posters, right Emily, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was trying to find them because I I
Speaker 1: realized that this was the thing, and then I started
Speaker 1: trying to figure out where I could get the posters.
Speaker 1: But like they have different promotions like if you use
Speaker 1: if you get a day pass and then go to
Speaker 1: the zoo, you can get a poster or something, but
Speaker 1: like none of those were happening while I was there.
Speaker 1: I was I was so charmed and and and delighted
Speaker 1: by think we should have more train mascots. There's that
Speaker 1: really good Twitter account. I think it's Mondo mascots, and
Speaker 1: it's all just Japanese mascots for different things, and a
Speaker 1: lot of it is like mascots for like a precinct
Speaker 1: or whatever, you know, like they do just having a
Speaker 1: mascot for everything. It's great the grain industry or something.
Speaker 1: Some of the ones I've seen on Mondo mascots, it's
Speaker 1: like they're always about like well, like their main trades
Speaker 1: are like growing melons and like trees, so it's like
Speaker 1: an oak tree with a melon for ahead. Well. The
Speaker 1: weird thing about it the boy who's not the bread baker,
Speaker 1: who's like the older brother. His picture makes him look
Speaker 1: like he's just like shady, he's got something to hide,
Speaker 1: and his description is like, you know, he's really cold
Speaker 1: to his younger sister, which he is protective of her,
Speaker 1: but it was also like he hates when the trains
Speaker 1: don't run on time. Everybody has like normal personality traits
Speaker 1: and then one hyper specific transportation. Let's take a subway
Speaker 1: train to our next topic. Oh so we recently started
Speaker 1: um a Facebook group from the Facebook page and uh,
Speaker 1: somebody whose name is Emily asked if we had any
Speaker 1: thoughts about the Cecil Hotel, which, um, if you were
Speaker 1: following maccabre stories a few years ago, you may remember
Speaker 1: from a woman named Lisa Lamb who was found dead
Speaker 1: in a water vault, is that the terminal was the
Speaker 1: water tank and the water tank and it was like
Speaker 1: a huge mystery because um, she she had she was
Speaker 1: like using tumbler, I guess, so there was a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to pour over, like her you know, musings
Speaker 1: on tumbler. And then there was a she had been
Speaker 1: seen on the like surveillance cameras sort of wandering in
Speaker 1: the hotel. There was a video and they it was
Speaker 1: later referred to as the elevator game because the surveillance
Speaker 1: video shows her getting into an elevator and like this weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no audio, you couldn't it was
Speaker 1: hard to make sense of. But it looked as if
Speaker 1: there was someone outside unseen on the surveillance tape, and
Speaker 1: she was in the elevator and like almost like she
Speaker 1: wanted to step out out of the elevator and then
Speaker 1: was kind of hiding in the elevator from someone. So
Speaker 1: it kind of sparked some conspiracy theories. And yeah, there
Speaker 1: were a lot of conspiracy theories about it because it
Speaker 1: was like, it's impossible to get in the water tank
Speaker 1: by yourself, so they're like somebody must have gone with her,
Speaker 1: Like how did she get up there? There were all
Speaker 1: these did she close the back over her? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really horrible. And then somebody wrote a really good long
Speaker 1: piece about it that was on medium, and I think
Speaker 1: that was about sort of going over the details and
Speaker 1: it was like, hey, you know, the answer to this
Speaker 1: mystery is that this person probably had like mental illness
Speaker 1: and she had a psychotic break, a psychotic break, and
Speaker 1: it's like not not that cool, right, I Mean, that
Speaker 1: was the thing that as soon as it was kind
Speaker 1: of like that the likelihood of her having been killed
Speaker 1: and put in this vault or whatever was seemed like
Speaker 1: the least likely explanation. It just became very sad. But
Speaker 1: regardless of Cecil has kind of like a creepy aura around.
Speaker 1: It's haunted a f Yeah, yeah, it's super haunted because
Speaker 1: it's an old ass hotel in downtown l A. It
Speaker 1: gets all the shine as as being like, oh, the
Speaker 1: one creepy hotel. They're all creepy. These are all my
Speaker 1: favorite places in Last Angeles too. I had to say,
Speaker 1: like I wanted to talk about this just because I
Speaker 1: was clean it out a hard driver. I was looking
Speaker 1: for something on a hard drive, so I found all
Speaker 1: these old pictures. Um, because I had done this um
Speaker 1: kind of conceptual photo shoot for a project I've been
Speaker 1: working on at the time. Uh and and did it
Speaker 1: at the Cecil Hotel because I needed like a kind
Speaker 1: of this before or after this happened. This was before
Speaker 1: this would have been in like ten or twenty eleven
Speaker 1: or something that would have been like two or three
Speaker 1: years before this happened. Yeah, it was after they had
Speaker 1: done this sort of um remodeling to kind of make
Speaker 1: it more of a tourist hotel or like kind of
Speaker 1: something like a low budget hotel. For like people who
Speaker 1: would you know, be using hostels or something like that.
Speaker 1: They were trying to market themselves that way. This is
Speaker 1: like the very beginnings of downtown starting to be rehabbed
Speaker 1: in a way. But so there was like a coffee
Speaker 1: shop out from but it wasn't really that operational, like
Speaker 1: like all of these early efforts in downtown l A.
Speaker 1: It was like there was a thing that looked like gentrification,
Speaker 1: but it didn't really work, like like nobody worked there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a lot of it is. They put it up.
Speaker 1: They were like, we'll build a stage set of a
Speaker 1: downtown and then people will fill it with real downtown
Speaker 1: and then still have a crape shop that nobody ever
Speaker 1: works at. That's probably most people experience downtown driving through it,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: the people who are downtown are working there and don't
Speaker 1: have that much time to explore the quirky place. Like
Speaker 1: the Cecil Hotel was always like a hotel for like
Speaker 1: people passing through. It's like right right in the middle
Speaker 1: of the heart of downtown. But they do keep trying
Speaker 1: to flip it and make it like now it's a
Speaker 1: fancy hotel and now it's gentrified and it just is
Speaker 1: so scary but still so they are actually like the
Speaker 1: people who own the Bowery here New York about it
Speaker 1: and are going to try to make it into like
Speaker 1: an ace, Like I actually think this is super interesting.
Speaker 1: This is the main thing I want to talk about,
Speaker 1: is like how long do you have to wait before
Speaker 1: a place it's hunted becomes like something that people like
Speaker 1: young urban professionals like are attracted to it and can
Speaker 1: find it, like like think it's hip because the the
Speaker 1: Black Dollia stayed there or something like. I was totally
Speaker 1: into the Builtmore for a long time because it was
Speaker 1: the last place that the Black Dolly was seen and
Speaker 1: it was at the bar, the gallery bar at the Biltmore,
Speaker 1: which is incredible. It's one of the best bars, like
Speaker 1: just for appearance alone. So I lived downtown for a while,
Speaker 1: so I would go there and I would like wander
Speaker 1: through the lobby of the ce Cil just because I
Speaker 1: thought all these places were so cool. But like that
Speaker 1: was I wasn't like rehabbing it. It It as like a
Speaker 1: hip ace hotel. But I'm wondering how long does it take?
Speaker 1: What's that window for where you can be like Okay,
Speaker 1: we can turn this into a Ace hotel esque project
Speaker 1: and and the kids will flock to it because ghosts
Speaker 1: are hip now or what I feel like, I don't know, right,
Speaker 1: And also, like the Chateau mormont Is, many people have
Speaker 1: died there and there are many ghosts and that's part
Speaker 1: of its appeal. I guess my mom stayed there once
Speaker 1: and she said that, um, she was staying in a
Speaker 1: room with a broken mirror and was like, she just
Speaker 1: couldn't stay there. I have to move rooms, and I
Speaker 1: feel like she just kept energy broken mirrors and like
Speaker 1: ghostly things. But I talked to somebody. I went on
Speaker 1: um this podcast Bizarre States a little while ago, and
Speaker 1: they were talking about how they went to the Stanley Hotel,
Speaker 1: which is one of the Shining hotels. They were like,
Speaker 1: it actually wasn't scary at all. It was disappointingly unscary.
Speaker 1: Somebody was like having a wedding there and we kept
Speaker 1: being like, oh, we're trying to get spooky, and you
Speaker 1: guys are just like having a wedding. They said that
Speaker 1: they kind of like downplay the spook nous because like
Speaker 1: they got bored of people only wanting it to be
Speaker 1: a spooky Shining hotel and they're like, no, no, we're
Speaker 1: also just a nice hotel. Well, they have a film
Speaker 1: fest now called the Overlook Film Festival. It's like a
Speaker 1: horror film festival and for the past two years, not
Speaker 1: this year, but um, they've they've had it once once
Speaker 1: I had at the Stanley Hotel and then the other
Speaker 1: which is the one where where Stephen King wrote The
Speaker 1: Shining there's one that he wrote it and then the
Speaker 1: one that that they shot the Shining Net. Well, there's
Speaker 1: two different shot it um in Pine Win Studios. They
Speaker 1: built a set, but there's a couple of different hotels.
Speaker 1: They Yeah, the exterior I think is the Stanley, and
Speaker 1: then the interiors modeled after a hotel in Yosemite's I
Speaker 1: think he wrote it in Colorado. I think that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the Stanley. But yeah, the one in Yosemite that
Speaker 1: the interior is based off of has a lot of
Speaker 1: like Native American themed stuff because it's in Yosemite. But
Speaker 1: also that's like why people think The Shining is about
Speaker 1: Jennifer Native Americans because it kind of is uh guys
Speaker 1: speaking of downtown l a uh we Binge to vary
Speaker 1: degrees the Purge. Yes, over the past week. Um, the
Speaker 1: first Purge just came out or not just came out
Speaker 1: on July fourth. We talked this is one of the
Speaker 1: first things we talked about doing for the podcast. And
Speaker 1: then we're like, oh, but the movie doesn't come out
Speaker 1: until July, and we're like, well, that gives us so
Speaker 1: a lot of time to watch some Purges. Molly and
Speaker 1: I are not completely caught up on all of the
Speaker 1: p ridges because it turns out that binging the Purge
Speaker 1: is also like a tremendously stressful and depressing experience. Who knew,
Speaker 1: who knew? Who knew it would be that way? Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I had seen the first one when just
Speaker 1: when it came out on v O D, so it
Speaker 1: was probably or something I think it came out in
Speaker 1: and then I watched it right when it came out,
Speaker 1: So it had been a couple of years, but I
Speaker 1: remembered it as fun. I remembered as we first loved it.
Speaker 1: Anarchy is the best in the somebody asked me recently
Speaker 1: to rank them, and having not watched all of them recently,
Speaker 1: I still would put Anarchy at the top. I think
Speaker 1: Anarchy is the best one. So so I watched the
Speaker 1: first one and the second one, and then I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: I couldn't couldn't do the third one. I'd had enough purging.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I gotta watch something really dumb
Speaker 1: to chase this. Well, what was it dumb? Just so
Speaker 1: that we're in on the all right, there we go,
Speaker 1: there we go. You know it was a Christmas episode,
Speaker 1: Good Purge, Purge, Taste cleaner. Um. Yeah, but the second
Speaker 1: Purges all takes place in downtown l A, which is
Speaker 1: why we're talking about it. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: of course, I only love this movie. It's all about
Speaker 1: like just running around through downtown l A. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: Matt Saracen. Also Frank Grillo. Yeah. And who's then in
Speaker 1: the third one as well? Yeah? I mean because not
Speaker 1: in in the most recent one. So I was wondering
Speaker 1: if they were going to try to sell Frank Grillo
Speaker 1: as a kind of thread throughout the franchise, if not
Speaker 1: an actual hero, then at least like a connecting thread.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't have been. He couldn't have the first
Speaker 1: first eight. You know, Well, it's unclear how much time
Speaker 1: passes between the first Purge and by that I mean
Speaker 1: the most recent movie, not the first Purge. No, that's aasing.
Speaker 1: Two is you're like, the second Purge is about the
Speaker 1: sixth Purge. Okay, wait, so the first one is supposed
Speaker 1: to be two, right, so that's the fifth that this
Speaker 1: is like the the initial Purge. But then there's the yeah,
Speaker 1: the Purge anarchy is rights the following year. Let's explain
Speaker 1: the Purge to listeners who might not know how the
Speaker 1: Purge works. Everybody knows about that person. I did not
Speaker 1: know how it worked. How the Purge is of series
Speaker 1: of horror films. They're not sequels. They are all about
Speaker 1: one idea and different takes on the same idea. They're
Speaker 1: created by a guy named Jason Demonica James Demonica rather, no,
Speaker 1: I confused him and before the Purge for writing the
Speaker 1: movie Jack Yes, where Robin Williams ages four times faster
Speaker 1: than he Just the concept is that it's some at
Speaker 1: some point in the in the near future, America has
Speaker 1: has elected a party like a super right wing the
Speaker 1: New Founding Fathers of America, the New Founding Fathers of
Speaker 1: America and f A because the crime and whatever like,
Speaker 1: there's so there's so many problems in in America and
Speaker 1: somebody decides that they can all be solved once a year. Uh,
Speaker 1: for a twenty four hour period, all crime is legal,
Speaker 1: including murders especially. I thought it was twelve hours. I
Speaker 1: thought it was seven pm to seven am once a year,
Speaker 1: but I may be wrong, but that's why. Yeah, it is,
Speaker 1: it is. It's only twelve hours. It's only twelve hours,
Speaker 1: so it's yeah, it's it's I guess it's framed by
Speaker 1: the n f f A as like, well, there's so
Speaker 1: much unrest, We're going to solve it by having everyone
Speaker 1: expressed their violence during get it all out. During this
Speaker 1: twelve hour period, you can't be tried for anything legal.
Speaker 1: Hospitals are closed. Importantly, I think government officials are protected
Speaker 1: when you kill the third until per election year, and
Speaker 1: all rich people are are protected because they can afford
Speaker 1: to like armorize their house. But as we're seeing in
Speaker 1: the first one, it doesn't always work. First one is
Speaker 1: like a home invasion movie about Ethan Hawk and Searcy
Speaker 1: Uh in a house in Chatsworth, Um, and they get
Speaker 1: it kind of makes no sense. He's a security expert,
Speaker 1: so he's re installed all the systems in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: but that kind of was like beside the point, Like
Speaker 1: it really just is like a home invasion movie about
Speaker 1: the Purge that focuses on this one couple, like a
Speaker 1: homeless black guy tries to enter this suburban community. They
Speaker 1: take him in like because there's just the scuffle and
Speaker 1: then they're keeping him. But the like white evil preps
Speaker 1: and blazers that that come and try to terrorize them
Speaker 1: want want to take the guy away from them so
Speaker 1: that they can murder him. So it's sort did this
Speaker 1: chamber play. I read about the making of it. A
Speaker 1: lot of it was like we we wrote it because
Speaker 1: it was cheap to make it, all right, that's like
Speaker 1: that's ingenious, genius. And then in the second one they
Speaker 1: expand the world of the Purge because they have more money,
Speaker 1: because they have more money, and uh, it's but it's
Speaker 1: the same I think as the first one, Like it's
Speaker 1: all kind of cozy catast fee, which is like where
Speaker 1: it's like a group of survivors trying to get through,
Speaker 1: you know, something insane. It's kind of like just a
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic movie, but the post apocalypse only lasts for
Speaker 1: twelve hours at a time, and if you break the
Speaker 1: rules during the purge, then you get executed after the purge.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. That's one of the things is
Speaker 1: if you break the rules, if you like do something
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to, there's some rules you can It
Speaker 1: was it's something about the level of weapons. Guns are okay,
Speaker 1: but not to your gas or something. I was really
Speaker 1: into the rules. I don't know why. I just that's
Speaker 1: as a horror film, I think that makes it really
Speaker 1: good because, like I think most horror films have a
Speaker 1: set of rules, and it's all about like when the
Speaker 1: rules get broken or if the rules are going to
Speaker 1: get broken. So that's like kind of built into the
Speaker 1: purge Sherris and I think it's really smart. But I
Speaker 1: also like that it tends to and now with the
Speaker 1: fourth one, also the recurring imagery is, yeah, like a
Speaker 1: bunch of like middle or lower class people kind of
Speaker 1: like huddling together in their like dumpy apartments and trying
Speaker 1: to just like survive together. These that wild political is
Speaker 1: what I'm not really you know. I feel like James
Speaker 1: Demonica was was kind of avoiding talking about that up
Speaker 1: until the release of this one. Um. I think he
Speaker 1: was talking about it also during election year two. Well,
Speaker 1: the second one, the second one came out, there's some
Speaker 1: stuff in it that's very like like at the end,
Speaker 1: there's like a guy with like a scary American flag
Speaker 1: hat who's like the scariest guy. And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is like, this is directly just maga hats. But
Speaker 1: what's crazy is that it does kind of accidentally predict
Speaker 1: I mean it it has its finger on the pulse
Speaker 1: in a way that's kind of it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to watch because it was like, this reminds me way
Speaker 1: too much of reality exactly. You know, there have been
Speaker 1: a bunch of pieces that have kind of broken broken
Speaker 1: this down. There's a good one on vox Um. But
Speaker 1: the first one it was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: just playing off the Home invasion and like, you know,
Speaker 1: almost like the Hunger Games aspect of the government pitting
Speaker 1: citizens against each other was almost like an incidental thing.
Speaker 1: And then this in the second one, they brought in
Speaker 1: like this class anxiety. They brought in mistrust of the government.
Speaker 1: In the second one, it was like a really big
Speaker 1: thing because there was you know, you have to watch
Speaker 1: like the YouTube channels to get the real dirt on
Speaker 1: what's going to find out that the Purge sucks in
Speaker 1: the second one. I mean, I don't even know if
Speaker 1: they allude to it in the first one or if
Speaker 1: they decided in the second one that this was the thing,
Speaker 1: if they had this all along. But the whole thing
Speaker 1: about the first one is just like the illusion of
Speaker 1: this being a thing about families versus like some kind
Speaker 1: of marauding outsiders, right, kind of gets broken down in
Speaker 1: like social and racial and economic terms in the second one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the second one, it's like you find out there's
Speaker 1: a counterinsurgency against the Purge, the consistence counter pergers Williams
Speaker 1: so good, it's amazing. Fuck the Purge, Yeah, fuck the
Speaker 1: new Founding Fathers of America, because it's great. It really,
Speaker 1: it's great. So yeah, And the second one you find
Speaker 1: out that the Purge is basically just a scam for
Speaker 1: rich people to kill poor people, and that they have
Speaker 1: started hiring like outside contractors, that the government is like
Speaker 1: sending in people basically to like kill people during the purge,
Speaker 1: just to like kill more poor people during the purge,
Speaker 1: and that they use the fact that poor people are
Speaker 1: like excited about the Purge like against them because everybody's
Speaker 1: like this is my right, like these are my freedoms.
Speaker 1: A lot of it seems very gun control e because
Speaker 1: it's like people who are like I have nothing, but
Speaker 1: like one day a year I get to go shoot
Speaker 1: whoever I want, and like that makes everything worthwhile. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they actually like name check and the new one. So
Speaker 1: the new one is basically about um the first Purge
Speaker 1: as it's called, but um that they do a trial
Speaker 1: run of it on Staten Island. And of course the
Speaker 1: first one is Chatsworth, the second one is downtown l A.
Speaker 1: The third one is apparently was shot in these ends
Speaker 1: but takes place in d C. But um, it was
Speaker 1: shot in Providence. So a friend of the pot who
Speaker 1: went to Rizzy sent us a picture of when they
Speaker 1: built the giant guillotine in the alleyway outside her studio.
Speaker 1: She was like, it was actually like everything was blocked
Speaker 1: off because they were filming the Purge, so like nobody
Speaker 1: could like get food to their studio. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so it was like the Purse And I was like,
Speaker 1: what about like Purge mates the new ones in of course,
Speaker 1: plenty of jokes to be made about that. But the
Speaker 1: thing that they set up is that they so they
Speaker 1: pay everybody. If they stay, they get five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: And so all these people who are like super poor, like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to turn down five thou dollars if
Speaker 1: I can just stay in my house and like you know,
Speaker 1: wait for it to blow over. But then they pay
Speaker 1: people more if they say that they're going to participate
Speaker 1: in it. Um and then they wear these um they
Speaker 1: are given these contacts so that they can monitor their activity,
Speaker 1: and the contacts turned their eyes blue. Uh it's so nuts.
Speaker 1: But but so the thing that the thing is crazy
Speaker 1: is that um, when they when they start the experiment, uh,
Speaker 1: nobody's killing each other, Like they're just like having parties
Speaker 1: and kind of just like hanging down. Some people are
Speaker 1: like stealing money from a T M S or whatever.
Speaker 1: So then that's when they start sending in the outsiders,
Speaker 1: and then also broadcasting when they're like, oh, there's been
Speaker 1: all this gig activity at whatever street and whatever street,
Speaker 1: and then broadcasting that back out to the people who
Speaker 1: live in sat Niland, being like, look at your neighbors,
Speaker 1: look at how crazy they're being, Like you should be
Speaker 1: afraid of them, which just felt like such a chilling
Speaker 1: I had never seen that kind of laid out in
Speaker 1: those terms, or like a narrative that allows that kind
Speaker 1: of dynamic to be laid out in those terms, which
Speaker 1: I thought was so so smart. I was so impressed
Speaker 1: with it. It's very smart. I mean, weirdly, this is
Speaker 1: a genre that I think we all love, which is
Speaker 1: like weird sort of side science fiction of like this
Speaker 1: could be happening now. It's not like quite in the future.
Speaker 1: It's like this feels like now, but like a slightly
Speaker 1: more insane version of now, but like reality becomes more
Speaker 1: like the Purge every day. If you would know that,
Speaker 1: describe who did Jack would have basically predicted or current dystopia.
Speaker 1: Can you confirm, Emily, is there really a pair of
Speaker 1: people in the first Purge named Anna and Elsa or
Speaker 1: any so in the first the first Purge meaning the
Speaker 1: most decent Purge. I heard that there are two sex
Speaker 1: workers whose names are Anna and Elsa, which, of course
Speaker 1: I mean there are two sex workers, but I don't
Speaker 1: I didn't remember catching their names. Curious if true, Well,
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not Scandinavian. If did you guys ever
Speaker 1: see Death Rays five thousand? Okay, so there's like a
Speaker 1: lot of Roger Corman movies that are about things like
Speaker 1: this because they're like exploitation movies and they're like an
Speaker 1: excuse for everyone to like kill each other in a movie.
Speaker 1: Be Death Threes five thousand is a car race where
Speaker 1: you get points for running people over five thousand or
Speaker 1: two thousand. I think it's two thousand. Yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: always people in a car race. It's basically like a
Speaker 1: like a gumball rally, but you get points for running
Speaker 1: people over, So the more people you run over, the
Speaker 1: more points you get. And then David Carradine is like
Speaker 1: a guy whose name is Frankenstein who turns out to
Speaker 1: be like against the death Race, I think um, but
Speaker 1: also Battle Royale Um, a movie we all love. Have
Speaker 1: you seen Punishment Park? Anyone? Punishment Park? I think it's
Speaker 1: like on Criterion, But it's just like an art movie
Speaker 1: about like it's a punishment park. It's like a theme
Speaker 1: park where where hippies get chased by cops. Basically, so
Speaker 1: there's a thing where it's really obvious, like an exploitation
Speaker 1: type movie thing where it's like, okay, the bad government
Speaker 1: and this movie has created a set of circumstances that
Speaker 1: create a very entertaining movie for us, and you can
Speaker 1: kind of like lay at and like as long as
Speaker 1: you accept those terms, you understand, like you know, there
Speaker 1: can be some social commentary, but also you're like enjoying
Speaker 1: the violence and on its own terms. In a way,
Speaker 1: it's hard to watch sometimes because you're like a little
Speaker 1: bit it's just it's hard to watch. It's disturbing. But
Speaker 1: I would argue that compared to things like funny games,
Speaker 1: there's so much more. They're also funny. It's not like
Speaker 1: torture porn. It doesn't feel just like people getting tortured
Speaker 1: and like, oh, isn't this bad. It's like a little
Speaker 1: bit funny. It's a little bit like more poppy or
Speaker 1: something that makes it well. It's also it's interesting to
Speaker 1: see the different iterations of it, like it opens up,
Speaker 1: and especially to end it with the idea that like
Speaker 1: there was a time a long time ago when it
Speaker 1: was an experiment and you could escape because it's just
Speaker 1: sat An Island, and then in each subsequent film that's
Speaker 1: a race, so it's like you can't. It's like got
Speaker 1: like hyper normalization too. It's like, oh, this thing that
Speaker 1: seemed really fucked up when they first announced it. Then
Speaker 1: everybody just got used to it really fast, which is
Speaker 1: like something we've all been dealing with a lot that
Speaker 1: can't happen, and then it's like, oh, it's happening, and
Speaker 1: everyone just sort of like got used to it. And
Speaker 1: it's also the question of how do you kind of
Speaker 1: moderate your response to something very extreme? And in the purge,
Speaker 1: the good guys will fight back with the same violence
Speaker 1: that the bad guys are fighting with, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's it makes you really consider like how extreme things
Speaker 1: have to get before you are complicit just by nothing.
Speaker 1: Like the counter perjurers in the second one are kind
Speaker 1: of like they seem like kind of like patterned after
Speaker 1: the Black Panthers or something, but you know they're militant.
Speaker 1: They're like the government is a bunch of militant, insane people,
Speaker 1: and like we have to fight back against them using
Speaker 1: like things that are illegal, because like they're doing things
Speaker 1: that should be illegal. I just think like there are
Speaker 1: there are parts of in all the movies where it's
Speaker 1: like the only way to fight back is to just
Speaker 1: like do more violence. But I think that the most
Speaker 1: the most recent one definitely interrogates that more and it's
Speaker 1: like I don't ever feel like there actually is less violence,
Speaker 1: I would say in the most recent one, And it's
Speaker 1: more just about like this sort of sense of dread
Speaker 1: and like kind of this closing, there's a lot of dread. Um.
Speaker 1: It wasn't maybe as cathartic because I wanted it to be.
Speaker 1: I was sort of just like, oh, like this also
Speaker 1: feels like things feel a lot right now. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's also like it's obviously none of it
Speaker 1: feels very far fetched at this point especially, but it
Speaker 1: also was just making me think about, like if it's
Speaker 1: a comment on like sundown or laws, which were the
Speaker 1: super racist laws that everywhere had, especially there's been like
Speaker 1: some incidents in l A. And somebody was talking about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, Glendale being such a nice town, and then
Speaker 1: somebody was like, well, you know, Glendale had like sundown
Speaker 1: laws until like very recently, and for people who don't
Speaker 1: know what sundown laws are, it was basically you know,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't It wasn't an actual It was like
Speaker 1: an unwritten rule understood thing that if you were a
Speaker 1: person of all or you could not be in that
Speaker 1: place after dark. It was an unwritten rule of like,
Speaker 1: if a person of colors in this white neighborhood after dark,
Speaker 1: then like whatever happens to them is like I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna you won't be prosecuted for that. Yeah, so man,
Speaker 1: the purge, the purge. Well, you can either call or
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Speaker 1: roll that beautiful being footage HI called podcasts. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if this belongs on Nightcall, but we're trying to
Speaker 1: ask for any advice speaking like that. I'm a twenty
Speaker 1: year old guy living in Berkeley, California. I just got
Speaker 1: our college that are pretty useless degree on I think
Speaker 1: my inters Luckily I don't want you, just didn't want it.
Speaker 1: Only what advice you have for people getting out of
Speaker 1: college who I have no idea what to see with
Speaker 1: their lives. Non we passed into fin any particular acts
Speaker 1: to make it a clear, I do want to be
Speaker 1: able to support my family, be successful with the future,
Speaker 1: but for strange days and momentas. This is what I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about, and I'm sure any people think about this.
Speaker 1: If you have any advice, please do some podcast. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've been talking about this in some
Speaker 1: form or another, Uh, colors, just asking about you know,
Speaker 1: post college general anxiety, trying to figure out what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do, you know, big questions like that. Um, and
Speaker 1: we've certainly been thinking about that, I think in terms
Speaker 1: of our jobs and how we came to our jobs
Speaker 1: and all the weird uncertainty that proceeded us having the
Speaker 1: various lines of work that we have. UM. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys have any advice that you
Speaker 1: have for our caller? Uh. On the way here, we
Speaker 1: were like, we're gonna have a fun time answering this
Speaker 1: question because we're the worst people to answer it. But UM,
Speaker 1: we've been talking, all of the three of us about
Speaker 1: the general kind of like just implosion of online media, um,
Speaker 1: the Univision, sale of the Onion, a V club, the
Speaker 1: Gizmoto media group. I mean, it's just kind of endless. Uh.
Speaker 1: Every week it seems like a new place that we
Speaker 1: either one of us used to write for we or
Speaker 1: we're all big fans of is Folding. And I think, um,
Speaker 1: right after we graduated from college, that was a time
Speaker 1: when people were you know, if you had a blog,
Speaker 1: it was like kind of embarrassing slightly. There's a time
Speaker 1: when people were embarrassed to admit how much time they
Speaker 1: spent on the internet, right, like to tend not to
Speaker 1: be on the internet. You'd say like, oh a friend
Speaker 1: of mine said, and it's like, no, they weren't your friend,
Speaker 1: and they didn't say it out loud on a blog.
Speaker 1: And then there's like a point when it turned where
Speaker 1: suddenly everybody was like open about how much time they
Speaker 1: spent on the internet. And then it became kind of
Speaker 1: a joke like ha ha, we all spend our whole
Speaker 1: lives on the internet, extremely online. And then some of
Speaker 1: us got paid to right on the internet for a while. Um,
Speaker 1: I totally naively thought that like the money and add
Speaker 1: stuff from magazines would just like eventually move to the web,
Speaker 1: you know that, Like, well, magazines did just such a diffuse.
Speaker 1: I don't even know that it did. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I did. For like fifteen minutes, it felt like it
Speaker 1: was any moment. Now we're going to figure out how
Speaker 1: to monetize blogs the way that we monetize magazines with
Speaker 1: like big ads. And then it turned out that's way
Speaker 1: harder than anyone thought, or just it's because it works differently,
Speaker 1: because the web had been around and creating good content
Speaker 1: for free for so along, but nobody had really acknowledged
Speaker 1: it as a legitimate source. I think everybody was like
Speaker 1: very skeptical and kind of um took offense at reading
Speaker 1: like an advertorial, having a pop up ad, having like
Speaker 1: embedded ad links. It was very offensive. It was like,
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be free, this is supposed to
Speaker 1: be something we all create together. But I think between
Speaker 1: like two thousand seven and it seemed reasonable all of
Speaker 1: a sudden to believe that there was like an actual
Speaker 1: career to be had. I don't think any of us
Speaker 1: were like trying to get into. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that the way I can generalize a little bit of
Speaker 1: advice to break it outside of just the media thing,
Speaker 1: but just I think some something we've all kind of shared.
Speaker 1: I think we all kind of thought of ourselves as
Speaker 1: writers in somewhere or another, and then this sort of
Speaker 1: opportunity came up, or like you could sense that there
Speaker 1: was some kind of gold rush happening maybe two steps
Speaker 1: to the left of what maybe we would have envisioned
Speaker 1: as being a writer's job or something, and so you
Speaker 1: kind of just sort of make that shift over, well,
Speaker 1: this is basically like what I want to do. This
Speaker 1: is the way that I could maybe see some money
Speaker 1: for it. And I think in those times too, this
Speaker 1: is like a theme I think of our generation, Like
Speaker 1: you come into everything with a fear of selling out,
Speaker 1: and you get that worn down and then they're like, please,
Speaker 1: please may I sell out? Ye give me to sell out?
Speaker 1: You know. That's the thing is like we graduated kind
Speaker 1: of right into the recession, and so a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that were of the recession I just thought
Speaker 1: were like what happens when you're twenty two, which is
Speaker 1: like nobody wants to hire you and you can't get
Speaker 1: jobs you are overqualified for, and then you start applying
Speaker 1: for like retail and food service jobs and you can't
Speaker 1: get those either because like everybody else is trying to
Speaker 1: get those, And I think you should take the most
Speaker 1: interesting shitty job you can, like apply I for an
Speaker 1: array of things and they don't have to at all
Speaker 1: correspond to what you studied in college and pick the
Speaker 1: most interesting one, because the interesting ones always lead to
Speaker 1: something else, but the uninteresting ones take up so much
Speaker 1: of your time and leave you with nothing. I think
Speaker 1: I would I would add to the interesting ones if
Speaker 1: you can find an interesting one that also has a
Speaker 1: heart out every day, which is more and more rare
Speaker 1: than more and more that jobs are our our telecommunication.
Speaker 1: Something we talked about a lot is being able to
Speaker 1: have a division between your work life and your life
Speaker 1: life is like very important and maybe not something that
Speaker 1: any of us like knew we needed to prioritize when
Speaker 1: we started because we were just like so excited to
Speaker 1: get paid on something. Yeah, I'm assuming that there's kind
Speaker 1: of a deadline on this that you need to start
Speaker 1: making money soon. So I would say, if you need
Speaker 1: to like find a job that you're telling yourself you're
Speaker 1: not going to have forever, but it's like the job
Speaker 1: you have all you're figuring stuff out, then then definitely
Speaker 1: have one that you can walk away from when you
Speaker 1: leave it, and don't like pressure your self to get
Speaker 1: the job you're going to have for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life, because those jobs don't exist anymore anyway, and
Speaker 1: nobody has that. Nobody has that, And also they secretly
Speaker 1: suck because they know that they have cashet with you,
Speaker 1: and so they can treat you like garbage. But if
Speaker 1: there's something that's like a little quirky that you are
Speaker 1: into but that maybe other people wouldn't be, then at
Speaker 1: least you get a great story, and at least you
Speaker 1: get an idea of what you liked about the weird
Speaker 1: thing and didn't like. Whereas I think, like, I mean,
Speaker 1: definitely the worst jobs I've worked. We're not in food
Speaker 1: service or retail, but in offices doing nothing for a
Speaker 1: company that didn't matter to me because it just you leave.
Speaker 1: It's like it sucks your brain dry, it hasn't given
Speaker 1: you any interesting experiences. You're interacting with the same people
Speaker 1: all the time. There's like it's a higher pressure job,
Speaker 1: so you can't really leave it when you leave. Two
Speaker 1: of the people that I most uh kind of have
Speaker 1: been interested in their careers since we all graduated. One
Speaker 1: of them was a girl in a box at the
Speaker 1: Standard hotel, and I was like, like, should I apply
Speaker 1: to this? I don't think I'm cute enough to apply
Speaker 1: to this, But also like I would feel crappy about myself.
Speaker 1: She went through that whole thing and she wrote a
Speaker 1: book and it was great. Yeah, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of probably there was a time when it feels like
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, I'm going to do
Speaker 1: something weird, so then I can write a book about it.
Speaker 1: But if but even if it's just like it would
Speaker 1: it would pay you the same amount as waiting tables.
Speaker 1: But at least even if even if you don't write
Speaker 1: a book's like you have the story and you're thinking, like, god,
Speaker 1: I hate it for these reasons, I've got to get out.
Speaker 1: So it like motivates you more because you got that fire,
Speaker 1: and it puts you in a situation you wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been in normally, with people that you might not have
Speaker 1: been in with normally, even if it's unpleasant, like nothing's
Speaker 1: going to be forever at that age. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: the other thing I would say, don't get married to
Speaker 1: the idea that your best work you're gonna don't get married. Also,
Speaker 1: don't get right when you get out of Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: back from my no I thought, you know, like like
Speaker 1: don't get married when you're twenty two. But also we
Speaker 1: also don't do that honestly, but also just don't fall
Speaker 1: in love with this idea it that you will create
Speaker 1: your best work, or that you're the prime of your
Speaker 1: professional and or creative or whatever you're trying to do.
Speaker 1: Life is post collegiate, because it's not, like I speaking
Speaker 1: from a very specific instance, this goes back to why
Speaker 1: I was at the c Cell Hotel, Like I graduated
Speaker 1: from school. I had I got a script optioned. In
Speaker 1: heavy scared quotes, I don't want to get too much
Speaker 1: into the legal aspects of it, and it didn't happen
Speaker 1: because it just didn't happen and there wasn't the funny
Speaker 1: for it. It It was also two eight or two nine,
Speaker 1: like nobody was funny independent film. But had it happened,
Speaker 1: like that would be the end of my career because
Speaker 1: it was a terrible script and it would have been
Speaker 1: a really bad movie. I wouldn't be able to still
Speaker 1: accumulate experiences and like think about what I actually want
Speaker 1: to do instead of like hurrying up after school to
Speaker 1: be like this is my genius piece of work that
Speaker 1: I'm going to do, like as a college graduate. So
Speaker 1: don't like let yourself like not be a student for
Speaker 1: a while. Well as a rebuttal to that, though, I
Speaker 1: think my life would have been a lot better if
Speaker 1: I just booked that role in the movie that I
Speaker 1: auditioned for pretty much right out of college, that was
Speaker 1: Golden Retrievers in Space. So I'm just saying, like, sometimes
Speaker 1: you yeah, I would say my main advice, not that
Speaker 1: I'm the person to give advice, but yeah, don't do
Speaker 1: something you hate. And it's okay to like get life
Speaker 1: experience and not think that you have to like find
Speaker 1: your passion immediately and do it. It's like picking a major.
Speaker 1: It's like you give yourself some time in college to
Speaker 1: pick a major, give yourself some time out of college
Speaker 1: to like find out what you actually want to do.
Speaker 1: And if you want to be around people, be around
Speaker 1: people and go party because you should. You feel like
Speaker 1: you shouldn't because now you're an adult. Definitely later your
Speaker 1: bones will hurt. Your bones will hurt, and right now,
Speaker 1: like everything is so bad. I just wish I was
Speaker 1: twenty years old and was like, just put it away
Speaker 1: and party, but I can. I just read that I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to party. I feel like I'm glad that,
Speaker 1: like nothing nothing category is mich was happening, and it
Speaker 1: was just, yeah, we were like Y two K partying.
Speaker 1: I would have loved to be at a Y two K, right,
Speaker 1: but no, I was not. I would I basically just
Speaker 1: wanted to be at the party at the end of
Speaker 1: strange days. But I wanted to be um an Independence
Speaker 1: Day when the strippers on the roof and she's holding
Speaker 1: up the sign to welcome the aliens, that's me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, one really honest piece of advice that I
Speaker 1: would give is like, if you know, if you can
Speaker 1: learn how to program, do that, you've just gone full dad.
Speaker 1: But it's true and something everyone's dad has already I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like, the thing about writing is like
Speaker 1: everyone gets paid completely different amounts of money, just you know,
Speaker 1: depending on who you're doing it for and how much
Speaker 1: money they have. And sometimes you hear people who used
Speaker 1: to work in magazines and they tell you how much
Speaker 1: money you used to be able to make in magazines,
Speaker 1: and then you have to go like walk into the ocean. However,
Speaker 1: let me just say, how many times has either your
Speaker 1: dad or someone else's dad, or just the person who's
Speaker 1: not a dad been like, Molly, you should learn to program,
Speaker 1: because great advice, but I'm not going to do it
Speaker 1: because of plastics of our My brain doesn't know how
Speaker 1: to program. But my friends Sarah, who went to film
Speaker 1: school then also taught herself how to program and now
Speaker 1: she works as a programmer. I'm just saying, it's a
Speaker 1: field where people actually get hired to do a thing
Speaker 1: and they need it. So I'm like vibrating with happiness. Also,
Speaker 1: you can't tell Molly and I are out of the garage.
Speaker 1: We are in a studio. Thank you, studio and a
Speaker 1: studio and studio, so thank you to Audio Boom for
Speaker 1: doing that. Hopefully we'll be sounding um even more yeah
Speaker 1: than more us than we are in a sound proof room.
Speaker 1: It's really cool. It's really nice. Um And and thank
Speaker 1: you to to our producer has always been host East Coast.
Speaker 1: We got double studio action, double studio. This was this
Speaker 1: for this week. We are back next week with more
Speaker 1: night calls. Give us a night calls on the Facebook. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Facebook now has a group if you want to join. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a group. Ever, whoever runs the Twitter account
Speaker 1: will start tweeting. Whoever runs the Twitter account is back
Speaker 1: from Japan and we'll start tweeting whoever runs the Instagram account.
Speaker 1: You can also send us questions there. You can really
Speaker 1: send us questions or comments or All channels are open.
Speaker 1: All channels are open, but now the Facebook group. UM.
Speaker 1: If you want a little more interactivity, to meet fellow
Speaker 1: your fellow night callers, and if you want to send
Speaker 1: us memes or make memes, make some night call memes,
Speaker 1: we'll take it. Emily, welcome back, we missed you. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: I'm not glad to be back. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a legendary summer. I can the surgical summer.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's the purgical summer summer. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week.