1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to Ruthie's Table four, a production of iHeartRadio and 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Adami's Studios. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 2: Most nights, Jimmy Fallon and I are hosts. We both 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 2: have a number of people we reach out to. For 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: me a hundred and eighty for Jimmy one point eight million. 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 2: I am a pilot of a small plane and Jimmy 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: is an astronaut flying to the moon as a chef. 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: My hosting is through cooking in the River Cafe. Jimmy sings, dances, 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: talks and makes people laugh on the Tonight Show. Over 10 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: thirty five years, I can easily spot a food lover, 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: and from the first moment we met, I knew Jimmy 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: was one a food lover. Studies the menu asks questions. 13 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: Wants to explore the kitchen, and the people they care 14 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: most about meeting are the chefs. When they're finished eating, 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: often they want to start all over again. Curiosity is 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: the key for Jimmy to have interviewed thousands of people 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: over so many years. You don't just have curiosity, you 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: need to be a virtuoso of curiosity. So today, on 19 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 2: a gray winter day in New York, we're You're sitting 20 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: here at thirty rocks. Two friends to talk about memories, cooking, children, 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: and more. A chef and a star, a pilot and 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: an astronaut joined by love of food and each other. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Do I interview you or do you? That's the question. 24 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: That's the hardest thing about it. 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you know somebody said the thing about an 26 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: interview with these you can interrupt your guests. So that's 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: the hardest thing is they have to listen. 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: So something My first ever interview I ever did was 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 3: Robert de Niro. He's a great guy, so good. The 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: thing about Robert DeNiro is that he doesn't really talk. 32 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: He doesn't really like to talk. Okay, so if you 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: ever talked to him, you're like, Robert, I can't believe 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: you're here. You're on the show. Welcome, thanks so much. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: Uh're you live in New York? 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Right? And he goes yep, yep, wow, wow, Okay, what's 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the next question? I got the next question? You you 38 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: love Italian food? Right? 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 3: And he goes yepp, Okay, I'm going to another page. 40 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: You could hear the sweat flop sweat forming out my head. 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 3: I was like, oh my gosh, he's the nicest guy. 42 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 3: He just did me a favorite because you couldn't book 43 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 3: people when I first started, you know, it was a 44 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: brand new show and no one knew that shows me 45 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: a flop or hit. So he did me a solid 46 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 3: and we've had him back many times. Now he talks now, 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: now he slaps across. 48 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: He said that it can be a technique with journalists. 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: We once had a journalist doing a profile of Richard 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: and he hung around the house for days. He would 51 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: never say anything, and so I would, you know, talk 52 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 2: talk talk, talk talk, because somebody's got to talk. Yeah, 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: we're talking. 54 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: Do you remember when I first kind of came up 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: to you at your restaurant and I hopefully didn't attack you. 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 3: But I was such a fan of yours because I 57 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 3: collect cookbooks. Yeah, and one of my favorite cookbooks is 58 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: River Cafe, the one that's. 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: Oh the silver one, yes, yeah, that's easy, yes. 60 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: And it's one of my favorite cookbooks for years. I 61 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: love it. 62 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my gosh, were meeting you 63 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: and I'm like I'm at the you know, River Cafe, 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: and like show me everything. You're like, well, we have 65 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: a new book, and I go, let me look at 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: the new book. And then you're showing me how the 67 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 3: restaurant has grown, Yes, and I was like, this is unbelievable. 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 3: Before we even get to the food. The restaurant was awesome. 69 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 2: But that's you. I mean, we remember we talked about 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: the time that you know, Jimmy Fallon came in and 71 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: wanted to know everything. As I said, he wanted to 72 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: meet the chefs. You want how do you put what 73 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: wood do you put in that wood of? And then 74 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 2: we make the pasta? Do you boil it? Because I 75 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: think also that I'd like to ask you questions. So 76 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: how do you do a show? How does a pilot 77 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: you know fireplade? How do you know that the lamb 78 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: comes out the same time as a possible tree? 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I want to know why did you choose this 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: silverware to go with this? 81 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: You know, I know what we love that. We love 82 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: that curiosity. Do you have you ever worked in a restaurant? 83 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: I never have. 84 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: I don't know if I could do it, to be honest, 85 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: I don't know if I have the patience. 86 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: You might if a chef. You were a chef. Maybe 87 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: you don't have a chef. 88 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Maybe I could try to do I love to get 89 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: in that cook and I love I loved Yeah, different recipes. 90 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: I'm so I love it. It's a meditation for me. 91 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Most is it. 92 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's a conversation. But for now, should we 93 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: start out with your recipe? Because that is the idea 94 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: that everybody reads a recipe recipe read. 95 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: It's a recipe from the River Cafe Look Book, which is, 96 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: by the way, genius. 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: Whoever thought of the idea? I'm assuming it was you. 98 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: Three of us. 99 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: It is matching art pieces with food on these photos. 100 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I remember my grandma used 101 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: to do a lot of babysitting for me, and I 102 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 3: would go over and she had one cookbook. It was 103 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 3: a Betty Crocker cookbook. Yeah, and the pictures are so great. 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: It was like a cherry pie and it wasn't like 105 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 3: we were making them. But I would just look at 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: the book and flip through the pages and look at 107 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: all the awesome photos. And that was for a kid, 108 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: that was like my favorite book to read. So I 109 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: think this is brilliant. I monitored to read the recipe. 110 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: Now, okay, well what are you reading right? 111 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: This is for lemon ice cream, which sounds to intimidating. 112 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: No, but it's the shortest recipes here we go. 113 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Finally, grated zest of one and juice of three lemons. 114 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: I can do that. 115 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: One cup castor in pentzes, super fine sugar, a half 116 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: a teaspoon of sea salt, teeny little bit. 117 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: The sea salt we use is what they call molden salt, 118 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: which you can flake with your hands. It's a bit 119 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: salt together, fancy flaky salt. 120 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: Yes, and then you have fifteen ounces scant two cups 121 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: double heavy cream. What a scant? 122 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: Scat means almost What did you say said? Scat means smooth? 123 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: You're not measured. 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: It's like a scant, you say, you know, it's like 125 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: a little. 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: Pinch, like a pinch of two cups. That's a big pinch. 127 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: Two cups of double heavy cream. 128 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: That's it. 129 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: That's the ingredients, lemons, sugar, salt and cream exactly. Okay, 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: you need a lemon squeezer, you need a grater, you 131 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: need a scale, if you want measuring cups, measuring spoons, bowl, spoon, 132 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: freezer proof container. 133 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: Let's what you have to do here. 134 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: This is the only ice cream we know that doesn't 135 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 3: have to be churned. What, yes, be sure to wash 136 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: the lemons, roll the lemons before you squeeze them to 137 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: get the maximum juice. 138 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: I do that, by the way. I'm a gen and tonic, 139 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: so I take my lime and. 140 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: Roll it limes particulate. 141 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: Now the juice out there, Yes, you need it. Nothing 142 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: worse than like a pulpy dry lime. Roll the lemons 143 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: before you get that maximum juice. In a bowl, mix 144 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 3: the lemons, zest and juice, sugar and salt with the spoon. Slowly, 145 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: slowly add the cream, carefully mixing with the spoon. It 146 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: will immediately thicken. Put the ice cream mixture in a 147 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 3: one liter one quart freezer proof container and freeze for 148 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 3: two hours to harden. 149 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: That's it. 150 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: That is it what I mean, honestly, it is because 151 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: of the lemon and the creep. Basically you're eating cream 152 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: and a spoon. It's delicious. 153 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I'm doing. 154 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 2: This tonight with kids. 155 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: The kids love it, fantastic. I just want to say 156 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I love the colors on us. 157 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 2: You know, my husband did an airport in Madrid called 158 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: Barakas Airport. Have you ever been to Madrid? And every 159 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: he loved color, and so every beam is a different color. 160 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: It's like the rainbow and it just takes it so 161 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: we thought, how do you follow those photographs? You know, 162 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: you follow them with color. Color Every single page is 163 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: a different color. So it just makes it a bit even. 164 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: You think about that when you do not only your 165 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 3: cookbooks but your restaurant everything. 166 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: I think, I think, you know, I think color. I 167 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 2: look like you were saying lighting. I trained as a 168 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: graphic designer. So even the food. While you put food 169 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: on the plate, not in that fancy arty way. 170 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: With a little squeege you. 171 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: Are that kind of thing. We don't do that. But 172 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: if you're going to put a piece of sea bass 173 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: on the plate, and you're going to put a lemon 174 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: on the plate, and you're going to put some spinach 175 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: or cannellini beans or whatever, baked tomatoes, you really think 176 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: about how you play that. And it's very interesting to 177 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: see the way young chess plate. 178 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: You know, do you reactions when the plate comes to. 179 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: The always yeah, I mean I try, you know, because 180 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, we have an open kitchen, so to you know, 181 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: it's a live performance. It's like you when you get 182 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: up there and you have your audience, and of course 183 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: we don't get applause and we go get booze. What 184 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 2: I always look for is to see if they share, 185 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: so then you can see the reaction. You know, they go. 186 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: If you can do this on audio, Yeah, how do 187 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: you make it? 188 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? If you tuning in, they're not. 189 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: What's going on exactly? 190 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: Money. Welcome back to. 191 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 2: So we could go back to the grandparents in the yard. 192 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 2: Living with your grandparents. Tell me about your grandmother. 193 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: She was Norwegian and Irish and she was my mom's 194 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: mom and she lived with us. 195 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: She was she lived in our back. 196 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: Yard, in the back I had to tell you that. 197 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: I was with my seven year old granddaughter. We're going 198 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: down the street and I said, you know, I used 199 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: to live on the street. And she went, oh, poor you. 200 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: And I said why, I said, that's a really nice 201 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: street to live on. She said that you had to 202 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: live on the street. 203 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm sorry. They didn't live in my backyard. 204 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: Your poor grandmother was in the bag. 205 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: We fed them so they were well fed. 206 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: But they were in a little cottage in our backyard, 207 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: but shared our address, so they were basically our neighbors, 208 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: you know. 209 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: So they helped raise me. 210 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 3: Actually, so I go over there and there really is 211 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 3: no good Irish cuisine. Unfortunately, I could say that as 212 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: an Irish person. That's why you never you never see 213 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 3: an Irish cookbook because everything is boiled. Tatoes boil, boil it, 214 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: owed me a boilet toilet? 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what you got there? 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 3: Cabbage boil it, boil it with the with the corn beef. Okay, 217 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: this is the worst cook So that's why you never 218 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 3: see that. So but so we kind of tried to 219 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: steal from other CUIs means. We had Italian neighbors that 220 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: were great Polish neighbors, and then my grandmother Norwegian, so 221 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: we had a lot of like meatball type of things. 222 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 3: My grandmother would always be you know, she had that 223 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: rule if you drop it on the floor, not only 224 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 3: is the five second rule, you're allowed to eat it, 225 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 3: but Jimmy would eat it. 226 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: She would feed me whatever fell on the floor. I 227 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 1: would I got all the scraps. Yeah. 228 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 3: But I loved it, and I loved the way she cooked. 229 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: And I just washed her hands and my mom too. 230 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 3: They always had like something on them. My mom always 231 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 3: had like hamburger meat or something like that. She would 232 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: answered the phone with something on her hand and then 233 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 3: hang up and I go, Mom, you gotta wash. 234 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: I can't pick up the phone. 235 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 2: After you if you keep it on. 236 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, O, my god, it's disgusting. 237 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: Living with your grandparents is quite something, though, isn't it? 238 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Because you have the cooking is shared. 239 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 3: It's very family style cooking. We always ate how many 240 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: of you. 241 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: It was me and my sister. That's it. 242 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: I had one sister, my mom and dad, and yeah, 243 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: you know. 244 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: She stayed home to raise this. 245 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of a lot of my 246 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 3: mom cookingtuff like that and always experimenting and trying stuff. 247 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 2: Did she experiment? 248 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 1: Also? She would also lie to us too a lot. 249 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 3: I mean she said, like, we had a meal every year, 250 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: almost every day of my life called pasta pasta. 251 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: That's isn't that a song? 252 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: It's your like a big pizza smo. 253 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 3: When your mom lies to you, says it's passive, but 254 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 3: it's not because it's not. 255 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't. 256 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: She was, so is it kind of it's an Italian 257 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: soup and it wasn't When I was growing up. It 258 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: was basically like macaroni noodles, ground beef and pasta and 259 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 3: beans and garlic, garlic powder, and. 260 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: So what did she lie about? 261 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: I loved it? 262 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: Well, that's not that's not what passive pastaool is a 263 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: soup very like so, but we did stand soup. 264 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: It was like a really chunky soup. 265 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: There was no there's no liquid dry almost it was 266 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: actually almost like I don't call it gruel. 267 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: I had to name it for her. That was her thing. 268 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: And then I remember she was like she has. 269 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: A very like kind of new yawky voice, like, Jimmy, 270 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: do you want to grilled cheese? 271 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: I got, thanks, Mom. 272 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: And I knew that she made it because I would 273 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 3: hear scraping the burnt off the toes before she gave 274 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: it to me. She always burned my girl cheese. But 275 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 3: she's hilarious. My mom and my dad were. 276 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: Did your father cook? 277 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't remember him cooking, not. 278 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: Even like kind of man things like barbecues. 279 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I mean barbecue. 280 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: He would arrange the briquettes, you know, and like that 281 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 3: like it was a big masterful thing, like really that 282 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: it's just a pile pile always the barbecue. 283 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. What was the kitchen like? Was that out in 284 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: the yard as well? Yeah? 285 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 3: Open space in our house? Yeah, we lived, you know. 286 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 3: Our kitchen was where we have the parties and everyone 287 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: would always drink there. 288 00:12:56,559 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 2: Big house was tiny country. 289 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: House but our kitchen was red and red and blue. 290 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: It was like, oh man, I lived there basically, I 291 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: mean every big event was in the kitchen. Birthday parties, 292 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: hanging out after school with my friends, we'd all just 293 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: go in the kitchen. 294 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: We'd hang out with my parents. We'd drink with my 295 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: parents and hang with them. 296 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: And the music was in there. We'd always listen to music. 297 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 3: My dad always loved do wop music and yeah, like 298 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: like bo do doo doo do. So we were listening 299 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: to dou wop music. And he served in Vietnam. He 300 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 3: was in the navy. 301 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: What so, how long was her wife for? 302 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 3: He was gone for I mean just before he had me, 303 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 3: but it was three years, I want to say, on 304 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: the ship. But he loved do wop and he would 305 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: always play these real to real tapes of him in 306 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: this group singing on the ship and they'd sing all 307 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 3: like glory, they sing all. 308 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: These songs, and I go, oh cool. 309 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: And when I got older, I watched these movies about 310 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: you know, Vietnam war or something, and they never played 311 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: do wop music. They would play Jimi Hendrix. They would 312 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 3: play you know something that I go, they're missing the 313 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: everyone's listening. Turns out my dad was just a nerd. 314 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: I think I know more do wop songs than I 315 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 3: do modern songs. But I remember he had me as 316 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: a kid climb up. We lived in upstate New York, 317 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: and you had me climb up into the house and 318 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: put wires all over in the attic just we can 319 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: get reception of this radio station, w CBS FM in Brooklyn, 320 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: New York. It was probably terrible for me and Gloria 321 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: with all the radiation from those wires. 322 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: But did you have meals? Family meals around the table? 323 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: Would you sit down in that beautiful kitchen of yours? 324 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: We would sit in the living room. 325 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Do you have did you have a dining room? 326 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 3: We had a dining room that would use on Thanksgiving, 327 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 3: in Easter, I think, yeah, you know, basically only the 328 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 3: only times we went to church we would use that room. 329 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: But you know the kind of big events, you know, 330 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: we would have in the dining room. But are most 331 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 3: of the time we had dinner together every night, watching. 332 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: TV, watching TV. 333 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: And we'd had those TVs tables, Yes, those pulled up 334 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: TV tables, and they're cheap metal things and click them 335 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: together and set it up and everyone make a dish 336 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: and then come out and you eat together and watch TV. 337 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: You watch Barney Miller or whatever. 338 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: Would you do homework? 339 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: Then I do homework and then yeah, and they watched 340 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 3: TV the rest of the night, we do the dishes 341 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: or whatthing like that. 342 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 2: But sounds kind of nice. 343 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: I love it. 344 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: Sounds nice. 345 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: I love that. 346 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 3: I loved hanging out with family and eating and talking 347 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: with Like again, my mom just loved food and just 348 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: always there was always something cooking somewhere, either her or 349 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: my grandmother. Just again, sloppy hands things everywhere, sauce is 350 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: being made. It was good and like just yeah, I 351 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: think and experiment again, trying different things. And I would 352 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: always try to do something every Thanksgiving, Like I go, 353 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: I'm making Brais fennel this year. 354 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: Did you I tried? Did you make fennel? You grew 355 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: up in Solgerties? Yes, I grew up in Woodstock. What 356 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: about it? 357 00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? 358 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: What'stock girl? No? 359 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: I went to your cool You went to hone your 360 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry high all the cool kids went to your 361 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: I think. 362 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 2: The school there ei there was a choice where we 363 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: could have maybe gone to Sogerty's or gone to to 364 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 2: you imagine to your was great, but it was like 365 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 2: a forty five minute ride from Stock. But we used 366 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 2: to go to the movies in Sogers on Sunday, Sunday night, 367 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: no way. 368 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my first movie theater. So everything that 369 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: I used to I went to summer school. I should 370 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 3: say it like I'm proud of it. But I went 371 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: to summer school in Woodstock. 372 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: And what's what's the elementary school. 373 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: Right by the on the green, right on the green, 374 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: so you know. 375 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: That golf course. Yes, that's where my father we lived 376 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: on Chestnut Road. 377 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: What what was the place that there were? All the 378 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: bands used to cliff? 379 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: I used to go to the bird cliff. There was 380 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: up on the mountain. You mean that the outside Maverick. 381 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: There was Maverick. 382 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: It was like a bar almost. It was a good 383 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: bar like r. E. M. Was your there. 384 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: And when I went you know, I'm pretty old. So 385 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: when I went there, there was just after Dylan because 386 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: when my parents went there, it was an artist calling me. 387 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: You remember that. When you come into Woodstock from Soberties, 388 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: there's the Art Students League, like Phil Gustin was there, 389 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: a lot of great artists were there and then Bob Grossman, 390 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: you're interviewing me. By the way it happened. 391 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: See, it just happens. So this is what it is. 392 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: It ends up. I knew I was going to do it. 393 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: I got you. 394 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 2: I'm only supposed to talk about food, So I didn't 395 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 2: eat Dylan in a. 396 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: In a bar just when he got in the motorcycle accident. 397 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got the motorcycle accident of in wood Stock. 398 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 3: My mom, I went toole bringing back to food I 399 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 3: went to when I got started live and started to 400 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 3: get famous. I would go home to say to, you know, 401 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: my parents, and she always wanted to go out to 402 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 3: eat and show me off, you know, but I wanted 403 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 3: to eat homemade cooking. You know. I don't want to 404 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 3: go out every night. I live in New York City. 405 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 3: So but she's like, let's let's go out. I go, 406 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 3: all right, let's go out. 407 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: I go. We don't make a big gest I'm not 408 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: going to make a big deal. I go. 409 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 3: I know sometimes you do, and just like, don't I 410 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: want to? I just want to go, and you know, 411 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: all right, let's just go. So we went to Woodstock. 412 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: It's a great restaurant in there. We walk in, they 413 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 3: sit us at this one table. 414 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: And she goes, I don't know if I like this table. 415 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I go, don't start, don't start, you start. She goes, 416 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm not starting. I'm not starting anything. I order. 417 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: You're raising your voice. So let's just have fun. Let's 418 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: have a good time. Don't make a big deal. Great, 419 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 3: so we get drinks. She orders, what are you gonna. 420 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: She goes, I'm gonna have the lamb the lamb chops. 421 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: You're great, I ordered, my dad ordered. Her. 422 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: Sitting there, the food comes, hers doesn't come, so she's like, 423 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 3: where's my lamb chops? Don't make it. Don't make a 424 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 3: big deal. You promised it. 425 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: She goes, I'm not. I'm just I'm not making beats. 426 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: You know what. 427 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 3: I'm just not gonna eat. I go, that's a big deal. 428 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: That's a big deal. Now what are you doing? So 429 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 3: when the lamb chops come, you're not going to eat 430 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: the food? She I'm not gonna eat it. I go, 431 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 3: this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is making it. 432 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 3: She was, Oh, look it's coming now. So it comes. 433 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: Now she's met. She with I'll eat that bitch, and 434 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 3: she's cutting it all mad and angry, and she takes 435 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: her first bye and my kiddy, she goes, I go, 436 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: you're kidding me? 437 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: Are you choking? 438 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: She's like, my dad puts his finger down my mother's 439 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: throat and she's going like, and he's doing gagging her trying. 440 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: Woman runs from down the rest of she goes, I'm 441 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: a nurse. I'm a nurse, knocks over, stops like banging 442 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: in and knocking into everything. The table's getting knocked over. 443 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 3: Going over to my mom and she grabs my mother, 444 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 3: and my mom made these noises I'd never heard it 445 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 3: make before. Not She's going, oh, oh oh, and then 446 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: a ball of lamb flies out of her mouth and 447 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 3: hits the wall. She sits down, she's crying, and my 448 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 3: dad says thank you. 449 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: And I looked at my mom. I go, this is 450 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: not making a big deal. 451 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 3: That's exactly what I asked you. 452 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 2: Your mother was right, she did she didn't have eaten. 453 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: Looking back at that, ladies, your own business, Yeah. 454 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: Did you eat? But did you read out? In restaurants? 455 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: Was the family occasions to go out to restaurants. 456 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: A big deal growing up because we didn't have that 457 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: much money, so Pizza Hut was a big deal. Pizza 458 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 3: Hut would have indoor seating and it was like a 459 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: big deal. They used to give you the sizzling pan 460 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 3: of pizza special handling, it was so hot. And there 461 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: was a video game table you could play pac Man 462 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: and Caterpillar, so me and my sister. 463 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: Would play pac Man while we were waiting for the pizza. 464 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 3: There was a salad bar, I mean remember salad bars. 465 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: Of course that was big, it was, And so going 466 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 2: to the Pizza Hut was for an occasion that was 467 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: would it be somebody birthday or somebody's on a versio, if. 468 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: Someone did good on a test or you and pizza 469 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 3: is a big deal. And then there was another place 470 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: called the Ground Round that was like a new restaurant. 471 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 3: It was in a mall in Kingston and we used 472 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 3: to go there and there was a guy named the 473 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: balloon Man who's a creepy guy, a weird mustache, and 474 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: he used to wear a cape and a T shirt 475 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: that said the Balloon Man and he would go up 476 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 3: to little kids like how old are you? You know, 477 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: he was definitely a little scary. He probably drove a van, 478 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And so I go how 479 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 3: old are you? And then you let the air out 480 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 3: of the balloon and you do all these tricks and 481 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: he's like, are you married yet? 482 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god. And so we try to dodge the 483 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: balloon man while we go in. 484 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: What age would that be, I'd say that that. 485 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: Was my teenage years. I'd probably say thirteen. Or we're 486 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: going to the mall. We loved hanging out the mall, 487 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: which Amazon has made sure that there are no malls anymore. 488 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: But it was fun hanging out the mall. 489 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: And when you started going to restaurants, was there a 490 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 2: revelation when you went to a restaurant you didn't have 491 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: the salad bar or the ballue. Yeah. 492 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: My first revelation was when I had to pay for 493 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: my food. Yeah, and I'll never forget it. 494 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 3: I did stand up at this place, something Harbor, and 495 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: I was by myself and I did stand up. I 496 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 3: was probably eighteen, barely driving. I drove myself to this 497 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 3: gig and did the gig and you get paid, you 498 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: know whatever, it is fifty bucks And I got paid. 499 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 3: And after the gig I did well, and the owner said, Jimmy, 500 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: you did really well. 501 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: That was great. 502 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 3: I want to give you a little bonus, and gave 503 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: me another fifty bucks. It's one hundred dollars. Yeah, it's 504 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 3: the best thing in my best day of my life. 505 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: So I go, oh my gosh, I'm going to go 506 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 3: buy something. And so across from where I was staying 507 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 3: at this tiny, you know, comedian's condo. They usually have 508 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: a condominium where the comedians live and say that you 509 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: live with the other comedians. 510 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: Very weird. 511 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 3: But I went across the street to this diner and 512 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: they had pumpkin pancakes. I had never had pumpkin pancakes, 513 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: and I go, I like to have that, you know, 514 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: looked at the menu as special, and they brought it, 515 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 3: and I knew I was paying for my own money. 516 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: And it just tastes like the I think every tasted 517 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: in my life. I'll never forget it. Anytime I see 518 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 3: pumpkins bice latte and I make jokes about it, or pumpkin. 519 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Anything, I go, I always think of those pumpkin pancakes. 520 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: And that was like a game changing for me. 521 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 2: Like, but that is food and memory, isn't it. I mean, 522 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: you can remember that feeling. 523 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. 524 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 2: You didn't tell me about the stand up or about 525 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 2: the place. You talk about the food and you're not alone. 526 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of these interviews are with people 527 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: who were not entitled, whether it's Michael Caine after the 528 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: war living in a little, tiny hot or Paul McCartney 529 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: said that he remembers the first time he was able 530 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 2: to buy himself good food to eat. That was a 531 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: big moment. That was one of the reasons I used 532 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: to saw his success almost his success in terms of 533 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 2: what food he could eat. I thought that was interesting 534 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: when I. 535 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 3: Used to play the improv in Los Angeles. You know, 536 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: I do a bunch of comedy clothes, but whenever I 537 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 3: played the improv, my mom would love it because. 538 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: They fed you as well. They paid you seven dollars, 539 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: but they fed you anything on the menu, so my mom. 540 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: I would call my mom. 541 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: She's like, you tell Bud Friedman that thank him for 542 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 3: feeding my baby. 543 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're doing the improv, you know. She 544 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: was always so proud. 545 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: I remember my first Saturday night that I got to 546 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: perform at the Improv, which is a big deal. I'm 547 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 3: waiting to go on Brand New and Jerry Seinfeld walks in, 548 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 3: sits down and go and this is the peak of Seinfeld, 549 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 3: and I go. 550 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 551 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: I went out to a payphone and I called my 552 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 3: mom to collect because I had no money. I called 553 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 3: her collect and she goes like, I go, mom, Jerry Seinfeld. 554 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. She goes, is he gonna do stand up? 555 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 3: I go, I don't think he's gonna do anything. He's 556 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 3: just here eating right now. And I was like, it 557 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: was so wild. 558 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: So I go in. She goes, only I have fun. 559 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: It was so exciting. 560 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 3: So I go in and this is Saturday night, It's 561 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: a big deal, and of course he decides to go on. 562 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: So Jerry Seinfeld goes on. He does all of his bits, 563 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: like what's the new? 564 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: Is his whole giant thing standing ovation crushes It's the 565 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 3: best stand up you've ever seen. 566 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: And then they go all right, who's next? Is Bob 567 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: some of it? 568 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: And Bob goes, I'm not gonna fallow Seinfel and they 569 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: are who's uh, where's Kevin? 570 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: Is you gonna call it? 571 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 3: Kevin's like I'm following Jerry side felt. They all right, 572 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 3: who is Who's Jimmy Fallon? And I was like, that's me. 573 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 3: He's like, all right, kid, you're up. So they introduced me. 574 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: I was had to follow Jerry Seinfeld on my first 575 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 3: Saturday night at the Improv, and it worked out because 576 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: I didn't impression him. 577 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 2: Jerry. 578 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had like a doll and I said, like. 579 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: Had you always thought of doing that anyway? Or you 580 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: just had I just. 581 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Didn't think about it. 582 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: Yes, since you was there, I'm like, how did I 583 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: follow this? But I had to follow him. But I 584 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: love the Improv because you see. 585 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 1: It to eat. 586 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, they gave you the food. 587 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: They gave me food. 588 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was there to be chicken fingers or whatever 589 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 3: it was, but I remember it was something, but that's 590 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: chicken tans. 591 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 2: And when did you go to your first real restaurant 592 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: where you felt that you were that you could afford 593 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 2: to eat? 594 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: Was that that was the problem. 595 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 3: Sarent Live? I think ye, Sarah Live. I started going 596 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: out with Lorn. He would take the cast out. So 597 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: then you kind of go, oh, this is what restaurants 598 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: are like, this is what I have to dress like 599 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 3: and understand the whole thing and appreciate all of it. 600 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: And I I remember going to like some fancy restaurants 601 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: and like per se. 602 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I know, big deal. 603 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: That's intimidating my wife at the time. We were dating 604 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: and she was living in LA and she moved. She 605 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 3: came to New York to visit, and she was I 606 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 3: was going to ask her to marry me. I was 607 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 3: going to propose and surprise her in Gramercy Park. And 608 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 3: she came and I already asked her dad for permissions. She 609 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: came and I go, hi, honey. 610 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: She goes, Hi. She goes, I have a surprise for you. 611 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 3: And then in my head, I'm like, hope it doesn't 612 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: mess with my surprise because I have a real surprise. Yeah, 613 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: I have a ring waiting for you. So she goes, 614 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 3: I got us reservations at per Se. I go, oh, 615 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,879 Speaker 3: my gosh, that's the place I'm dying to go to. 616 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's Michelin Star. It's unbelievable. So I go, okay, 617 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: I'll do it. 618 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I'll do it. After in my head, I go with 619 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: this show cut to fourteen courses later. 620 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, fourteen those. 621 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I was wasting. I was out of my mind drunk. 622 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I didn't even know that the last 623 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 3: two courses were I'm like, this is a and I 624 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: was eating the apkin. I mean, I was just terrible. 625 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 3: I was just a disaster. So when I get home, 626 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 3: I can't ask her to marry me. Now I'm a mess, 627 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 3: and I call my brother in law now and I go, 628 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 3: He goes, do you do it? I go, I didn't. 629 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 3: I went to per Se. He's like, why don't you 630 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: do it at per Se. I'm like, I thought in 631 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: my head, like what if per Se closes? And now 632 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 3: it becomes like a I don't know, a strip joint 633 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: or something, or a laser tag place. 634 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell my kids. 635 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: That's where I asked her mom to marry me in 636 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 3: the strip club, you know, so you never know. 637 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: I's so forward, thank you, thank you. I have to 638 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: say that is very kind of future class. 639 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: So then I didn't ask. 640 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 2: You for a park. There was no chance of that. 641 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: He goes, go to the bar, go to moll. He's 642 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 3: go to the bar right now and ask him. I go, okay, 643 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: hold on, I go, honey, do you want to And 644 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: she's in ja Do you want to have another drink? 645 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: She goes, you want another? You want another drink? Do 646 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: you have a problem. I'm like, I'm not going to 647 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: start off my marriage like this. So I passed out. 648 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: Why did you do it? 649 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: I waited six months. 650 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Six months? Oh really, she said, people. 651 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: I didn't know you could hear someone roll their eyes 652 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: over there over the radio. 653 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is. That is six months. 654 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: It's a long time. 655 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 3: So anyways, I ended up getting married with my wife. 656 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: I go to the doc and I said, don't. 657 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: Cry, because I'm very emotional person, just let her cry 658 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 3: first if you're going to cry, because. 659 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: It's a big deal. I have the ring in my 660 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: pocket where my bathing suit. 661 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: I took out the ring and as soon as I 662 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: got down on one knee, I totally started crying. And 663 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 3: I was like, when two people love each other, when 664 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 3: two people. 665 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: She thought I was having a stroke. She's like, oh 666 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: my god. Okay, but yeah, did you your wedding? 667 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Did you have a wedding with food? 668 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: We had a whole weekend of food. So we want 669 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: to make where did you get married? Ready for this? 670 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: No? No, okay, let's see us of cool Niagara Falls, cooler, 671 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: cooler than Niagara Falls at around decks, bigger, bigger than 672 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: they ad around Canada. 673 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: No bigger than Canada. 674 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 2: Lord is from Lauren Laura Canada. Forget what Canada? Necker Island, Oh, 675 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Necker Island. How did we get up there, then Necker. 676 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Island, somethinking big, just think of anything? 677 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was Richard Branson's place, right, yes, 678 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: Like what were we doing? You said up Oh you 679 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 2: didn't mean upstate? 680 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: Money wise? 681 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm how expensive? And when can you get Richard Branson? 682 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 683 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 3: I went to his spot and it was the best 684 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: he hasn't island. It is so fun that they had 685 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: sushi chefs in the pool. 686 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 2: Wo. 687 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: We were the most boring people to ever stay at 688 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 3: Richard Branson's island. He's so fun and he's like, fallins, 689 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 3: good morning. 690 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: Would you like to go race and the submarines? You really? No? Thanks, 691 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: We're happy in the pool. Yeah. 692 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 3: Would you like to fight each other and you know 693 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 3: with the blow torches and you go or whatever? 694 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: I go. No, we're good, Richard. Thank you very much 695 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: for these are really do you want to sit line? Oh? 696 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Be your dad? Well he gets attacked by alligators. I go, no, 697 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: thanks dadam so I just want to get I want 698 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: to get married with my dad's fine over here. Thank 699 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: you very much, Richard. We were the most boring people. 700 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: We had a blast. 701 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: My famous story is that somebody once ordered a cake 702 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 2: and they said, would you write will you marry me? 703 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: On the cake. So we made the net chocolate nemesis 704 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: and we wrote will you marry me? And halfway through 705 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: the meal he came up and said, cancel the cake. 706 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: Oh I know, I know, I know, I promise. It's amazing. 707 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: What happened that he canceled the cake? Oh we never 708 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: found out, no way cancel the cake? 709 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: And then who did you give the cake to? He 710 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: got married, very. 711 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: Private things, you know, in public space, so you know 712 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: the idea proposed? 713 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't want to do it there, maybe not? 714 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 2: Did you do it? 715 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: Then? 716 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 3: Her family has a summerhouse in New Hampshire on Lake Winnipesake. 717 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 3: It's gorgeous, unbelievably beautiful and means a lot to her. 718 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 3: You know, this family summerhouse. So I have the ring. 719 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 3: Everyone knows I'm going to do it, and I go, Okay, 720 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 3: I go, I'll just have a cocktail with her on 721 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 3: the dock and I'll do it. 722 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: But it was a cocktail. Remember this is a food program. 723 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Gin and Tonic, which I started drinking because of 724 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 3: going to England. I stayed at a plast call. 725 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: You had your first It was a B and B. 726 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of cool kids would say. 727 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: So I went there and Martin Miller was the owner, 728 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: and so he goes, Jimmy, if you'd pardon the accident, Jimmy, 729 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: if you like to come down to the living room 730 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 3: before we go out to dinner. We like to have 731 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 3: all the guests here just have a cocktail. And I 732 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 3: go but sure, of course it's great. So I went 733 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: down to have a cocktail. 734 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: He's like, you made it. He's like, would you like 735 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: Gin and Tonic? And I go, no, no, thank. 736 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 3: You, because I was like, I threw up in it 737 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: when I was in high school and I can't even 738 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 3: near the stuff. 739 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: And I could tell he was upset. And he's like, 740 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I go to an upset you. 741 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 3: He goes, no, it's just that you know, we've we've 742 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 3: got ranked like, you know, ninety nine out of one 743 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: hundred and gin magazine or something. I go, whatever, you 744 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 3: make me, yeah, some magazine, So I go whatever. But 745 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: he made me a Gin Tonic was the most refreshing, 746 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: best thing I ever had in my life, Martin Miller's gin. 747 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: I still drink it to this day. I made Timberlake 748 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: drinks it because it's the best. I love that and 749 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: still and now my wife drinks it. 750 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 2: To just two questions. When you go to a city, right, 751 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: can you go to London in Paris or Los Angeles 752 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: or Buenos Aires? Do you think about what you're going 753 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: to eat in that city? 754 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: Always? I do? I do research ahead of time. Yeah. 755 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: If I'm going to DC, I got to go to 756 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 3: Ben's Chili Bowl, you know London? Yeah, Rivery Cafe always, 757 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 3: I mean we have to. It's it's if you're anywhere, 758 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 3: if you. 759 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 2: Do you ever go to the markets and see what's there, 760 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 2: because that's a nice way to know a city isn't 761 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: walk to walk around and see what's on sale. So 762 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to just say that I love you and 763 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 2: you are so sweet to do this. And if you 764 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 2: think about food, I asked this is the question I 765 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: was told in podcast school that you you have one 766 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 2: question to ask everyone. And so the one question I 767 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: chose is if food is alleviates hunger, and food is communication, 768 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 2: and food is getting around the table, and food is love. 769 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: It is also comfort and so if you had to 770 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: go to a food when you needed comfort, what would 771 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 2: that food be? And I can tell you that Jeff 772 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: Goldblums had a bowl of cereal and Brian said a 773 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: bar of chocolate or somebody says pasta. So you can 774 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: think about it. I'm offline now, right, you can just 775 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: think for a minute. 776 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: Comfort for me, there's so many I would My immediately 777 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 3: thought was pizza. 778 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: It's such a New York American thing to. 779 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 3: Say, but a slice of pizza is just always there 780 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: for I'd loved it since I was a kid. 781 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: I love it now. 782 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 3: You know, good pizza, bad pizza doesn't matter to me 783 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 3: as long as in Gata slice I fall in half 784 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 3: and I eat it. I usually get it with pepperoni. 785 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 3: But it's the greatest thing. Yeah, pizza is my comfort food. 786 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 3: I will run to you pizza. 787 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: That's good to have pizza. 788 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: Let's good. 789 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. 790 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Rufie's Table for If you 791 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: enjoyed this episode, please make sure to rate and review 792 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: the podcast on iHeartRadio, app, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever 793 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 3: you get your podcasts.