WEBVTT - Owl Tinder

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeart Radio. I'm your

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<v Speaker 1>host of Mini Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and

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<v Speaker 1>evolutionary biology, and today on the show, it's birds in

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<v Speaker 1>the News Owls. Well that ends well, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some noteworthy birds, especially owls. This is a very owl

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<v Speaker 1>heavy episode because I like to keep up with the

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<v Speaker 1>bird news, because if you birds news, you bird lows.

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<v Speaker 1>So we will learn about orange owls, what's happening. We

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<v Speaker 1>will also learn about how an owl was at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of a fight for the Endangered Species Act. And

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<v Speaker 1>we will in the show with a short sweet kids

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<v Speaker 1>story about robots taking care of birds, which I do love.

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<v Speaker 1>Discover this and more as we answer the age question

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<v Speaker 1>was the wild Robot just a documentary? Joining me today

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<v Speaker 1>is friend of the show, producer host of the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Rough Stuff as well as shooting threes, Bridget Greenberg.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Hi, it's me. I heard an owl the other

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<v Speaker 2>day at like at like four in the morning, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was very excited, and I woke up my boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 2>who was not as excited as me about hearing an owl.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so proud of you, Bridget. I can't even

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<v Speaker 1>begin like this is I this is why you're on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. I approved so much. Tell your boyfriend he's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This happens with my husband all the time, where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear that bird? He's like, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>talking about? And it's like do you have ears? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you not hear the birds?

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<v Speaker 2>Like they're all around us?

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot. I cannot navigate to save my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>will like go into a building, exit the building, and

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<v Speaker 1>run directly into like either traffic or a wall. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I can never find my way around. I have no

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<v Speaker 1>sense of direction.

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<v Speaker 2>The fact that I'm not in a parking garage right

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<v Speaker 2>now looking for my car is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I know, same, same I've I've been. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been stuck in a parking garage just going around and

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<v Speaker 1>around and around for like more times than I care

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<v Speaker 1>to admit. Uh. And I I do sometimes have to

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<v Speaker 1>be guided like a sort of untrained mongrel uh to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure I do not interact dangerously with traffic. So

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<v Speaker 1>you would think that, Okay, my skills of observation are

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<v Speaker 1>not that great. But the thing is, I'm using like

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<v Speaker 1>ninety nine percent of my brain power to like hear

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<v Speaker 1>listen for and observe birds. So every time I got

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<v Speaker 1>your important yeah, I'm like, I'm like Brett, who's my husband?

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<v Speaker 1>Like Brett, there's a cout Did you hear that? That

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<v Speaker 1>was a cout? Hey, there was a There's a tit?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that tit? Hey, there was a houseparrow?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 2>They'll guide you. The birds will guide you if you listen.

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<v Speaker 1>The birds will guide you, possibly into traffic. But the

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<v Speaker 1>point is it's really important to observe birds at the

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<v Speaker 1>expense of any other sort of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're on the same page there, and people have

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<v Speaker 1>been observing one particular bird near Lake here on Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>People have spotted an uh orange owl. Orange owl just dropped, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>new orange owl. New orange owl is So they have

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<v Speaker 1>spotted a snowy owl that people have named either Rusty

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<v Speaker 1>or Creamsicle. I kind of like creamsicle. Yeah, I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on the I'm voting for creamsicle is the name?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Rusty is like, yeah, cute classic. There are probably

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<v Speaker 2>other birds named Rusty Creamsicle. Creamsicle is it original name?

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<v Speaker 1>Also, if you see this bird, oh wait, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to yeah, I have to give you the images because like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a bright This is not just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of orange in the sense of.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's not a color.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like a like how a fox is orange

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, where it's like, it's a pretty decent foxes

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<v Speaker 1>are a decent orange. But it's like a natural looking orange.

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<v Speaker 1>This is bright, synthetic looking orange.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like someone like a toddler started coloring it

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<v Speaker 2>with a cran and then forgot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, that is but like precisely, precisely what it looks like,

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<v Speaker 1>like a toddler kind of spilled some cran juice. Cran

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<v Speaker 1>juice isn't a thing, but.

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<v Speaker 2>The grand juice.

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<v Speaker 1>That is kind of what it looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what a stunning bird, very beautiful. Yeah. Creamsicle. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>creamsicle is a name one hundred because it's also got

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<v Speaker 2>the white mixed in. It's not just as.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, no, it's it's one hundred percent of creamsicle. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect name. No notes on that this bird is a singular.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not that this is a new species. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a snowy owl, so this is known. And the the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it looks like it's been stained with a

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<v Speaker 1>highlighter or dipped in sauce has been there's been multiple

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<v Speaker 1>photographs of it, so it's not like a photoshop hooks

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<v Speaker 1>or something of that nature. So it is definitely a

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<v Speaker 1>bird that exists who is orange, and we don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know why. So it's not like it's not like, oh yes,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yes, we know this is this owl has uh

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<v Speaker 1>orangeitis that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, are like a variety of snowy owl that

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<v Speaker 2>is orange.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no no. Researchers are like, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not this is not normal, and so there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a variety of theories as to what is going on. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>someone could have possibly captured a snowy owl, dyed it

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<v Speaker 1>and then release it as a prank, which seems somewhat

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<v Speaker 1>unlikely in my opinion. I not I don't put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not a good prank. It's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I don't put it past people. I you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>much as I love humanity, we got some stinkers, We

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<v Speaker 1>got some stinkers, and we got some perverts. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would believe a person would do this. It's that I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's that I doubt the person who would want

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<v Speaker 1>to die an owl orange would have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You know what I mean, like a pigeon,

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<v Speaker 1>Sure you can't. You can catch a pigeon. So like

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<v Speaker 1>people have caught pigeons and like done weird things to pigeons,

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<v Speaker 1>like glued little hats to their heads, which I disapprove of.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do that. If a pigeon wants to wear a hat,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll wear a hat.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't. If you glue it will find a hat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're around enough trash, I'll find a hat.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, like pigeon fashion is so far advanced from

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<v Speaker 1>human fact, like pigeons who wear bread around their necks

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<v Speaker 1>or bagels around their necks. Like, pigeon fashion is beyond us.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah we're not ready for that runway walk.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, exactly, So leave the pigeons alone. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like I would, I would believe this was a prank

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<v Speaker 1>if it was a pigeon because people are weird. But

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<v Speaker 1>a snowy owl, I don't see how someone would catch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's possible, but it just seems it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like an odd thing to do. Uh, it's not done

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<v Speaker 1>by researchers, right, because there are like bird conservation projects

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff, but there's nothing right.

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<v Speaker 2>There are other ways to tag bird.

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<v Speaker 1>There used to be I think, like a few decades ago,

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<v Speaker 1>there used to be some things where they would use

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<v Speaker 1>paint to track birds. But that was a long long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. We don't do that anymore. It's banding birds now.

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<v Speaker 1>Radios or banding birds no longer using paint to track

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<v Speaker 1>migratory birds.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's a lot of paints. I would imagine. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine they just like kind of give a

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<v Speaker 2>stripe when they did it, not try to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they didn't dunk. They didn't dunk the bird into

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the that little package of seasoning that comes

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<v Speaker 1>in with Kraft.

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<v Speaker 2>Mad and cheese. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, So various researchers have various theories. So

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<v Speaker 1>one is by Michigan State University bird coloration expert Kevin McGraw,

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<v Speaker 1>who thinks it's possible the owl has a mutation resulting

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<v Speaker 1>from environmental factors such as pollution. So that's theory number one,

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<v Speaker 1>that this bird is an orange mutant. Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sad for the reason, but cool turnout like that if

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<v Speaker 2>we get more orange owls, that's pretty cool, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for bad reasons ultimately net zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't want the lesson to be let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>keep oranging our owls like.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, it's a net negative for sure, but cool.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's that's a theory, right, that is not there

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<v Speaker 1>has been no evidence of that, other than the fact

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<v Speaker 1>there's an orange owl going around. Auburn University ornithologist Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Hill believes it is not a mutation. He thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>it the pattern of coloration seems to be a die

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<v Speaker 1>that was applied. But again the question is why and

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<v Speaker 1>who and how and what?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what I mean? I like I people are weird,

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<v Speaker 2>they really are. So I'm being like, this is my bird,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to know it's my bird. But owl

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<v Speaker 2>seem hard to.

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<v Speaker 1>Like.

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<v Speaker 2>I I've had enough like trouble, trying to trama, housecats, nails.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine trying to die an entire owl.

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<v Speaker 1>I've often thought about how one would go about dying

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<v Speaker 1>an entire owl. I've given a lot of thought of it,

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<v Speaker 1>about it, a lot of thoughts to it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine be quite difficult. And owls are essentially the

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<v Speaker 1>cats of the sky. Yeah they don't, they really do.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to be dyed. Uh, And so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like. It's not like an eery PoTA where the

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<v Speaker 1>owls are just gonna like fly around and deliver you

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<v Speaker 1>mail and let you do weird wizard stuff to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna like that, and it's gonna use its

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<v Speaker 1>big clause on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Every time I've seen an owl at like a

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<v Speaker 2>zoo or some sort of bird.

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<v Speaker 1>Show, bird show isn't the word that you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 2>But all right, yeah, but you know you know bird

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<v Speaker 2>with bird Yeah, bird show, bird shop.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, I apologize, I apologize. It is called bird show.

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<v Speaker 2>Bird show. This is bird show.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They do have the vibe of cats of like

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<v Speaker 2>gaze upon me, do not come near me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but gaze, Yeah, you make gaze. The last theory

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that I believe in. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>explanation that really does it for me. Uh. A third

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<v Speaker 1>bird expert, doctor Scott Whedenschnall. Also he has the best name,

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<v Speaker 1>so I gotta go with him. He's the co founder

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<v Speaker 1>of Project Snowstorm, a snowy owl research group. He told

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<v Speaker 1>The New York Times New York Times is how do

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<v Speaker 1>you say that? New York Times is James Krugnall Knolly

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<v Speaker 1>New York Times is James Krignolly. The most likely explanation

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<v Speaker 1>is that it was the icing fluid at an airport,

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<v Speaker 1>since some formulations are that red orange color. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he. I think that's what happens. That feels them

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<v Speaker 1>right that like doesn't me.

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<v Speaker 2>That that kind of feels like the Okham's razor. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The simplest answer is the best. Uh, this alog it's

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<v Speaker 2>got spilt on.

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<v Speaker 1>Right exactly, Like when I look at this al, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that guy could have gotten blitzed with a diceer sprayer

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, also like it there's like kind of it

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<v Speaker 1>explains the kind of tied eye pattern, the pattern, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And also like there there's like some white feathers above

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<v Speaker 1>the orange ones, and it's like, yeah, it could have

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<v Speaker 1>also molted some of the other feathers and so that's

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<v Speaker 1>why some of them look like pristine and other ones

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<v Speaker 1>are sort of like have this color spread on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think this, I think this guy got blested

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<v Speaker 1>with with plane juice. Oh no, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean and that also his his his face in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the first one is like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I get me, Yeah, he's he's a this this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this is a bird that now has a vendetta

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<v Speaker 1>against planes, which does worry me. Yeah, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should be concerned about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We should watch out for this bird. If you're in

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<v Speaker 2>if you see creamsicle, you see creamsicle out your window

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<v Speaker 2>and you're flying it does it does seem like it

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<v Speaker 2>just takes one, you know these days, it just takes one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, Creamsicle. Creamsicles revenge hopefully won't happen, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>poor Creamsicle. Also, if you are in the Michigan Lake

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<v Speaker 1>here on area, uh, do not snitch on creamsicle. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't emphasize this enough. Don't be a snitch. If

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<v Speaker 1>you see creamsicle. Feel free to take a photo marvel

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<v Speaker 1>at creamsicles beauty and orange appearance, but do not post

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<v Speaker 1>online where you see creamsicle. If you take a photo

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to share it online, scrub it of

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<v Speaker 1>any I identifying information. Because people do not want this

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<v Speaker 1>owl to be harassed. This owl is like a bird celebrity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like bird Scarlet jo It's like bird

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<v Speaker 1>Scarlet Johansson. I think I saw recently this post about

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<v Speaker 1>like Scarlet Johansson doesn't like to take photos with fans

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<v Speaker 1>because she it's like kind of an invasion of her privacy.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, yeah, that completely makes sense, scargo. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent on her side. Like she's probably out

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<v Speaker 1>some stalkers, so she doesn't want photos taken. That makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Creamsicle is the Scarlet Johansson of owls.

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<v Speaker 2>And and yeah it's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like if you know where she is, No you don't,

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<v Speaker 1>No you don't, No you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I yeah. I feel like owls are very you know, solitary,

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<v Speaker 2>and like their silence too. I'm sure they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>swarms of people around them. No, no, they aren't knowing them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and oh, you know, it's already been through so much.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so exciting to see an orange owl and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, oh, yeah, it got hit with plane.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news that the good news is that the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Michigan Wildlife Conservation group has said that the

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<v Speaker 1>owl appears to be in good health. So great, Creamsicle

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<v Speaker 1>seems fine. I keep saying the owl. We don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>know the owl sex Uh, I'm calling her her because

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<v Speaker 1>she's beautiful, but could could easily be a meal. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's doesn't probably not, probably does not care. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>is that mouse? Is that tasty mouse? No, don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's its priority.

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<v Speaker 1>Taste mouse, kill the mouse. No, all right, creamsicle seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing fine.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably got pribe, got blasted with the plain juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh, it's got a cool as as long as

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<v Speaker 2>it's healthy. It's got a cool it's got a cool die.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gotta it's got you know, try something out. It's

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<v Speaker 1>got cool vibes. We saw her across the room and

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<v Speaker 1>we thought you had cool vibes. So but keep it

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<v Speaker 1>across the room. Don't harass this owl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, don't stry anymore playing juice on owls. That seems

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<v Speaker 2>not good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The airport, the local, the Michigan Airport refused

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<v Speaker 1>to comment on the story.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're like, yeah, yeah, we know.

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<v Speaker 1>Owl owl Tinder just dropped, bridget. I know you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're worried about owls finding love, worry no longer.

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<v Speaker 1>Owl tinder is here, thank god. So Western burrowing owls

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<v Speaker 1>are literally the cutest owl in existence.

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<v Speaker 2>They are those are are those? Well? No, not Western?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking of the hoot owls from the Carl

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<v Speaker 2>Hyason book. They were in Florida. Those are those are

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<v Speaker 2>that's deep Florida. Lord, that's a he's a Florida author. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a whole book called in a movie called

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<v Speaker 2>Hoot about burrowing owls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, burrowing owls are all gonna be cute though,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where they are. These ones are Western burrowing

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<v Speaker 1>owls found in California, and they are adorable. They are

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<v Speaker 1>terrestrial owls, which means that I mean they can fly,

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<v Speaker 1>but they burrow. They spend their time in burrows. They

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<v Speaker 1>most spend most of their time on the ground hunting,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are I think the cutest owl in existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they lie on their tom tums just to like

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<v Speaker 1>get that, like sunbathe. They're small owls. They're brown with

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<v Speaker 1>these big yellow eyes. They only weigh about five ounces.

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<v Speaker 1>They're truly a handheld owl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're little, tiny birds.

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<v Speaker 1>They're owl many and they're super cute. They have this

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<v Speaker 1>perpetual look of either shock, deep a fence, or plane stupidity.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually there's like a trio of them staring at the camera.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them looks angry, one of them looks shocked,

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<v Speaker 1>and the other one looks deeply stupid. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they always manage to get the three three owls

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<v Speaker 1>in a band. Yeah formation I I will have pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of it in the show notes. But I highly recommend

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<v Speaker 1>just googling burrowing owls. They're very silly. Anyways, these little

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<v Speaker 1>dumb dumbs need our help finding love. Uh. This is

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<v Speaker 1>an article in Geo by Kate Ferby, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>perfect name name to be writing about the burrowing owls, which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they are ferbie like they are ferbies, they're real furbies.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently these owls are Their populations have been declining

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<v Speaker 1>in the San Francisco Bay Area, and one of the

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<v Speaker 1>problems with population decline, especially when it comes to urbanization

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<v Speaker 1>or suburbanization suburban crawl, is that you are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>making these genetic bottlenecks, and so genetic diversity goes down

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<v Speaker 1>in the overall health of the species declines. So owl

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<v Speaker 1>conservationists have created uh basically owl Love Island. So they

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a camp for owls where they go

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<v Speaker 1>as juveniles and it's to like they check on their health.

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<v Speaker 1>They ban them. They do like genetic tests and blood

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<v Speaker 1>tests and then like for the winter period because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the juveniles are it's still the population in

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<v Speaker 1>this area is still somewhat fragile. So they keep the

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<v Speaker 1>juveniles there over winter in this big bird sanctuary so

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<v Speaker 1>that they're they're grow up nice and healthy. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they play uh like match maker for these birds.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But they they do it by finding like the least

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<v Speaker 1>in bread match for them. So one of the problems

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<v Speaker 1>when you have a declining population is if the birds

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<v Speaker 1>mate with someone like their cousin, it's not great. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So they're trying, they're trying to get these birds to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>uh stop doing incests, some doing in so they they

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<v Speaker 1>find they find a bird that's like very genetically distant

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<v Speaker 1>from the other bird, pair them up. And when they're

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<v Speaker 1>like when they are in adults and they are released

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<v Speaker 1>from bird love camp. Uh they uh just it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you will ask like, okay, how do you like have

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<v Speaker 1>birds get married? What do you mean like these you're

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<v Speaker 1>matching these birds like they're birds.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you throw both of them in a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that will do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll do. So they they find burrows for these birds

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<v Speaker 1>because they they they like like they either make them

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<v Speaker 1>or find the burrow and they will take them the pair.

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<v Speaker 1>The match set that there's like you are this is this?

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<v Speaker 1>This match pair is the most genetically diverse birds. They're

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<v Speaker 1>the least related. You're not cousins, so congratulations. They stick

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<v Speaker 1>them in the hole, and the birds are like cool

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<v Speaker 1>with it, Like they they're just like okay, because again

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, the yeah, hey you're you live in

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<v Speaker 1>hole too.

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<v Speaker 2>We have so much in common. Yeah, what else do

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<v Speaker 2>you need? This?

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<v Speaker 1>Nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>The you're the bird of my dreams. You're also in home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in hole. You're in hole.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nice hole. You want to stay in this hole?

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<v Speaker 1>Fore, yeah, let's just stay in hole together. So like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to work because again because it's like uh

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<v Speaker 1>it is they're out in wild, in the wild at

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<v Speaker 1>this point, they can do whatever they want. But they're

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<v Speaker 1>pretty happy usually with this match. And they're not always

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred percent monogamous, but they tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>like they might have like some breeding seasons where they

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<v Speaker 1>go and they like kind of get a hall pass.

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<v Speaker 1>They explore and explore a little bit. It's like an

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<v Speaker 1>open marriage. But like they they they.

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<v Speaker 2>In hole for so long a hole Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's like like I met someone.

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<v Speaker 1>I met someone today who also lives in hole. Right, crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, they seem to be happy with the matches,

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently this is working like surprisingly well. By diversifying

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<v Speaker 1>their DNA. They this has resulted in their telomeres doubling

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<v Speaker 1>in length, which is really good news for the owl population. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>telomeres are sort of like, it's like this, on the

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<v Speaker 1>end of your your DNA, you have like this strand

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<v Speaker 1>of proteins that don't necessarily do anything, but it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know how I get on the end

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<v Speaker 1>of your zipper. You have that like long metal thingy

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<v Speaker 1>that like stops the zipper from just like coming off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what a telomere is. Essentially, It's like a strand

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<v Speaker 1>of proteins that prevents the the things that like run

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<v Speaker 1>around run along the DNA, copying the DNA called like enzymes,

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<v Speaker 1>from basically messing up once it gets to the end

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<v Speaker 1>of it. And so the shorter the telomere, the more

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<v Speaker 1>uh basically the shorter the lifespan of the organism, because

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<v Speaker 1>then you start getting more more and more airs, chance

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<v Speaker 1>of cancer, chance of airs that is uh, incompatible with

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<v Speaker 1>staying alive and so longer telomeres are generally good for

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<v Speaker 1>an animal and uh so yeah, by this this bird

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<v Speaker 1>love Island is creating healthier birds by increasing the bird diversity.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's working. Love Island never works. I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like summer camp for birds. Like it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I went to like a sleepway camp that was like

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<v Speaker 2>that felt like this of like find find your nice

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<v Speaker 2>little jewish boy. I went to what this owl camp is?

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a science camp and uh it was, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, nerds are very horny, so famous, surprisingly surprisingly

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<v Speaker 1>horny nerds. I was in the I was in the

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<v Speaker 1>computer science group, and uh yeah, like the I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the probably the horniest group and the least likely

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<v Speaker 1>to do anything about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they're the computer They're not quite on the

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<v Speaker 2>scale of band nerds. Yes, on the horny scale of.

0:24:33.680 --> 0:24:36.959
<v Speaker 1>But band nerds like get pretty freaky with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, yeah they're theater nerds are band

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<v Speaker 2>nerds on the other end, all those spit belts.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Yes, I'm glad they're finding love owl tender is

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<v Speaker 1>working working really well for these burrowing owls, which is

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<v Speaker 1>it's great news.

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<v Speaker 2>So just drop them in a hole with another owl,

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<v Speaker 2>and that rarely work.

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<v Speaker 1>You just drop in. You just drop them in a

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<v Speaker 1>hole with another owl.

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<v Speaker 2>Which you know, if only love were that easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Only maybe maybe it could be, is what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe it could possibly be. Uh, that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like. I went through with my my husband, like

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<v Speaker 1>we went through the pandemic together, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like we were dropped in a hole together,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really I turned to him, I'm like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in hole too. We have so much in common.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in hole, You're in hole.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Yeah. I think my boyfriend and I came

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<v Speaker 2>out of the other side of the pandemic being like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can be alone together for for three years in

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<v Speaker 2>not going outside. All right, this works, Yeah, this works,

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<v Speaker 2>It works works good. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a that's that's it's it's a good dating strategy. Yeah, invite,

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<v Speaker 1>invite the person that you like to a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>So also, and also when you're this cute.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a little baby. Fun fact about baby burrowing owls.

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<v Speaker 1>They can hiss like a rattlesnake to ward off present.

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<v Speaker 1>So they just like a little angry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're little. I feel like they don't have Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they don't have a lot of other defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>One of their defenses is stomping snakes. Like if a

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<v Speaker 1>snake tries to get in the row to like get

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<v Speaker 1>the babies, they stomp on them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, they do. Got those sharp cloths they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're feisty. They're like little tiny kittens of the

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<v Speaker 1>of the the out the bird kittens, bird kiddies. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>last owl story. So, northern spotted owls are at the

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<v Speaker 1>center of a power struggle with the Trump administration. Weird, right,

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 1>resist didn't think I was gonna drop politics in this episode,

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 1>did Boom? Gotcha?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to their resistance, Welcome to the owls.

0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so, I you know, like this is not usually

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>a political podcast, but honest, like it has become completely

0:27:05.440 --> 0:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>unavoidable because of all the stuff happening visa the environment.

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, so yeah, it's everywhere.

0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, so Trump has invoked a god Squad panel, which

0:27:21.760 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>sounds great. H So this is basically it is a

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:31.439
<v Speaker 1>panel that relates to the Endangered Species Act. It is

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a group of high level officials who are trying to

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 1>override the Endangered Species Act like a bunch of Captain

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Planet villains. Wow, yeah, sou So. The Endangered Species Act

0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>includes a provision that allows for some of it to

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:51.000
<v Speaker 1>be overridden if it is in the public interest. So

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 1>this means like, well, so it's supposed to be only

0:27:54.800 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>applied in very very specific, very rare circumstances. It is

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:04.080
<v Speaker 1>that has rarely ever happened. Like once it happened because

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>there needed to be a dam on a body of

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:11.399
<v Speaker 1>water and in order and that threatened the whooping crane.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>So in order to do the dam, they had to

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>do all of these extra protections for the whooping crane

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>or to make up for the fact that they were

0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>doing this dam. But they needed the dam for either

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know for yeah, for water water, thank you,

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>bridget that's the word I was looking for. Uh. And

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 1>so it's really not meant to be used very often,

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>but obviously uh in this case, like like the interpretation

0:28:35.840 --> 0:28:38.640
<v Speaker 1>of like in the public interest seems to be now

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like Trump and his rich friends and like wat to

0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it exactly, and like the the the villains from Captain Planet,

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:49.959
<v Speaker 1>whom I forget like doctor pollution or whatever.

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it just doesn't like the look of it anymore.

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so uh the basically, yeah, so it should it

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>should not, it should not. This God Squad is called

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>the God Squad because the ideas like they have the

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>god h yeah, yeah, they have the power of life, death,

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the blah blah blah, Jurassic Park, et cetera.

0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 2>So cool, not ominous at all onto the significance of

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the northern spotted owls.

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:22.200
<v Speaker 1>These little guys have this brown coloration and white spots

0:29:22.240 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>with cute, perpetually grumpy white eyebrow markings.

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Most owls do look grumpy, these ones. They are not surprised.

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:33.040
<v Speaker 1>These ones have the added benefit of having like like

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>sort of eyebrows, which make them increase the grumpiness. I'm

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>dropping this owl into the document right now.

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a grumpy Every animal should have distinctive eyebrows. Yes,

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 2>it makes them so readable. Yes, he looks grumpy, he

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>looks angry.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>He's very grumpy and angry. And what I like about

0:29:57.400 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that is he's basically going no, you don't to do

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 1>yeah to the God squad that's trying to Yeah. So yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety two, the gods, the God Squad, tried

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>to allow logging despite threats to these Northern spotted owls,

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and the government was sued by environmental groups who said

0:30:23.840 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that the decision was based on politics rather than science,

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and due to the litigation, the Bureau of Land Management

0:30:32.480 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>withdrew the logging request. So the Northern spotted owls, I

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>just imagine them in the courtroom like going like I

0:30:40.160 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>may not be a city city lawyer.

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 2>You know. There is also like something to the markings

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>around its face that makes it look like a tough,

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>mean judge, whereas a powdered wig.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I want I want these owls to be the

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<v Speaker 1>ones leading the process cution at the Hague.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, they they have like you look at

0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:08.040
<v Speaker 2>those eyebrows and they are you're not you don't don't

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>with me, So I really do. You're not getting away

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.600
<v Speaker 2>with it exactly.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>So I really do like these spotted owls as the

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:25.280
<v Speaker 1>symbol of resistance to the attack on environmental protections.

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.720
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, following this owl into battle, for sure?

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I would. I would, Yes, I would follow this owl.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Probably he'd take me to a tree and then up

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a kind of nugget of fur and mouse bones, and

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, yeah, you owl for this precious gift.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 2>I had to dissect one of those.

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too, and I like, I asked my teacher

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.320
<v Speaker 1>if I could keep all the little mousebone parts and

0:31:55.360 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 1>she was like, yeah, you can. It's not just did

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.840
<v Speaker 1>that you do but you can't? Was like, great, put

0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>them in my lunch box. Yeah. My mom was like,

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>is their mouse bones in your lunchbox?

0:32:08.160 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah? That's that teacher. How to make a

0:32:11.480 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 2>make a call based on your vibe of like is

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 2>she doing this because she's interested.

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 1>Or because it was necromancy wants to murder? It was necromancy,

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>but the educationalency.

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, the cool kind. So yeah, she had to

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.520
<v Speaker 2>make a real vibe decision there on whether you could

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:31.680
<v Speaker 2>keep the mouse bout.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>And she made the right decision. I grew up, Yeah

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>she did almost normal. So last little story here, Bridget

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is about the real life Wild Robot. Did you see

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:46.959
<v Speaker 1>that movie Wild Robot?

0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>I did? And oh I love that.

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>It got me too. I love it so much. I

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 1>freaking love the movie. It's so good. It's scientifically questionable.

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the animals man are at the end.

0:33:00.200 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>All the animals get along on the island. I don't

0:33:02.400 --> 0:33:04.160
<v Speaker 1>know what they're eating, if not each other.

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 2>But but you know, friendship, the power of friendship.

0:33:08.880 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Friendship. Maybe they have a system where like the old

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 1>ones giddy.

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:18.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's like a donner party, right, or

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:19.360
<v Speaker 2>like I worked it out.

0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or like Midsummer Midsummer where the old where the

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>old the old people get thrown off a cliff, but

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>in this case the old animals. Anyways, The Wild Robot

0:33:32.200 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 1>was a really adorable movie. I loved it. There's a

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 1>real life Wild Robot situation going on. The Chingolo is

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a tiny South American sparrow with rusty coloration, uh which

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:49.280
<v Speaker 1>its population is in decline, but which is a problem

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 1>because do the habitat loss and population decline, some of

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the young chingolos are left without adult birds to tutor them, uh,

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>to teach them how to sing because younger yes, songbirds

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>aren't pre programmed with the songs. They actually learn them

0:34:07.680 --> 0:34:11.400
<v Speaker 1>from older birds. They're pre programmed with the ability to

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>learn the songs, but they actually have to learn them.

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>And so if there's too much habitat loss, not a

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>high enough population density of birds, they may not learn

0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the full song. So there's the complexity of this song

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 1>is starting to decay, and so researchers and conservationists got

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:34.879
<v Speaker 1>together and created a bird tutor robot, which is basically

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 1>like it sounds like it's going to be a cute

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>like robotic bird, it's.

0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.200
<v Speaker 2>More just it's like a speaker.

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.640
<v Speaker 1>It's more of a speaker. But the thing is it's

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:48.400
<v Speaker 1>a fancy speaker because it's not just playing pre recorded

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 1>bird songs. They trained a model to learn how the

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 1>song used to be based on old recordings, on old notes,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.080
<v Speaker 1>so that they could create a very not just like

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>a kind of bad recording or something, but to create

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a really clear song and one that they can like,

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, add variations to that that existed in the

0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>older song.

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:19.280
<v Speaker 2>And uh so they songwriters, okay.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 1>Ai, songwriters are are saving birds. I mean it is

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>it is. I think it is a a It's one

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of the applications where it's like, this is what we

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 1>should be using, yes, exactly, uh a tool. Yes. So

0:35:36.360 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it seems like some of the young birds are learning

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>from the song robots and have started incorporating the old

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 1>complexity of the songs into their song. So it does

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>seem to be working. And this is happening in the

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>in Buenos Aires in Peri aira Erolla Park. So just

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 1>you know a little bit of a little I like

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>to I like to judge up the end with a

0:35:58.200 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 1>little bit of good news there.

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's sweet. One technology doing what it is

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:09.359
<v Speaker 2>supposed to do, helping organic species. There we go.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>This is what Yeah, this is what we're supposed to

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 1>be doing with technology, but not laying off artists so

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that we can have a movie posters with people with

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:27.319
<v Speaker 1>like seventy five teeth, extra fingernails and like a nostril

0:36:28.640 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in their eye.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Bill, yeah, something with something off. Just yeah, teach the

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:40.000
<v Speaker 2>birds music again exactly. Yeah, And I feel like this

0:36:40.080 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 2>is it's like baby Einstein for birds.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>It is.

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 2>They're like, yeah that like reading comprehension is going down

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:50.480
<v Speaker 2>in younger generations, same with birds, but they figured it out.

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 2>They're learning again.

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.320
<v Speaker 1>The implication is we could also be teaching these birds

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift songs and be able to go to the rainforest.

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.279
<v Speaker 1>Ye hear's some good dead poets society.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, So yeah, you know, you never you don't have

0:37:05.640 --> 0:37:09.719
<v Speaker 2>to listen to someone else hiking with a bluetooth speaker anymore. Yeah,

0:37:09.760 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just the bird.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, although I guess like if that happens enough, the

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>birds are gonna start learning whatever is on those awful

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.880
<v Speaker 1>bluetooth speakers. Don't do that, folks. Yeah, not only is

0:37:19.920 --> 0:37:23.320
<v Speaker 1>it being for other hikers, it's also uh not great

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>for the birds. They don't it's going to confuse them.

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, headphones, we don't want to and you don't not

0:37:31.040 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 2>ever snarr music. All right.

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Before we go, we got to play a quick little game.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>This is called Gifts Who Squawk in the Mystery Animals

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>sound game. Every week we play a mystery animal sound

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:40.920
<v Speaker 1>and you the listener, and you the guests, try to

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 1>guess who was making that sound. Last week that sound

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>hint was this This little baby does not want to

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>be hung out to dry. All right, Bridget did you

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 1>hear those those little plaintive cries?

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, My guess is based off the clue, and

0:38:04.800 --> 0:38:05.640
<v Speaker 2>it is some sort of.

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Bat It's a It's a very good guess based on

0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 1>my clue. But sadly I think I was a little

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:19.400
<v Speaker 1>misleading with it. No, this is the call of an otter.

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a baby otter. Sometimes baby otters are left by

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 1>their mothers to float. Often the mothers will kind of

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>entangle them with floating kelp so that they don't drift

0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>away and they cry like this so their mothers know

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.799
<v Speaker 1>where to find them, so they have it. So if

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you ever hear like you're out on a boat out

0:38:39.719 --> 0:38:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on sea and then you hear a baby crying, I mean,

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>it could be a baby if you have one with you,

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:47.239
<v Speaker 1>but it also could be a baby otter.

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh god, I love otters so much. If I

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 2>could just hold one's little hand.

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I know, and they would probably they might, they might

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>hold your hand back. Uh yeah, so cute. Uh So

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>onto this week's uh mystery animal sound. Uh the hint

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 1>is this. Uh, I don't mean to bring religion into this,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 1>all right, Bridge, you hear that weird sound that was?

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 2>That was a wild one.

0:39:28.200 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And you got any guesses?

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh again, my my guesses will be very basic and

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna go wail.

0:39:40.000 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a very interesting guess and we will find out

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>next time on Creature Feature. She's correct, Richard, Thank you

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining me today. Where can we? Where

0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.320
<v Speaker 1>can the people find you?

0:39:52.320 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 2>You can find me on Instagram. Sarah and I my

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>my co host Small Beans Network post chef to our

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Instagram bs podcasting and you can also find me personally

0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>there at bridget Underscore Greenberg. Then you'll post what I'm

0:40:08.600 --> 0:40:10.720
<v Speaker 2>up to when things happened.

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Do check that out. Bridget is delightful in all of

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<v Speaker 1>her works. And thank you guys so much for listening.

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<v Speaker 1>For reculous your favorite shows. I'm not your mother, can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what to do. Don't harass Orange Owls though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do it. Don't do it. See you next Wednesday.