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Speaker 1: guess what today Coach Gadouski is going to tell you

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the David Rutherford Show.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, This is one that has been on

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Speaker 1: my heart in such a huge way. This individual has

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Speaker 1: one of the best coaches I have ever met in

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Speaker 1: who is also a fierce competitor. But you know, just meeting,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the David Rutherford Show.

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Speaker 2: Buddy.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's that's a heck of an introduction. I don't

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Speaker 1: I think every day you live up to it. Man,

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Speaker 1: he transformed my life. He's one of the most.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like for Rick to start talking

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Speaker 3: Well not right away, but I got to tell you,

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Speaker 3: we uh, I just found out recently that Michael Murphy

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Speaker 3: you know, you talk about the success of the program,

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00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,439
Speaker 3: et cetera, like it all is a together thing and

434
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: for us, like for big time college athletics, now you

435
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,399
Speaker 3: need tremendous support. You just do. It's prerequisite and and

436
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 3: I've been very fortunate to have that through my career.

437
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: But right now, like we have an athletic director who's

438
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: just all in, like he's it's really evident that he

439
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: has our back in a very Ricky de Rocha way.

440
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 3: Like the weird thing is is there actually they might

441
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: share a brain because when I said about Ricky, like

442
00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 3: he looks for standing up to beating arrogance or entitlement,

443
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 3: like that's Ricky, Like I think that, all right, pat

444
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 3: Craft has a lot of that in him, and I

445
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 3: think the guys felt and he's a really good he

446
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 3: would come in our locker room too, and like he

447
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: really was all into these guys and the guys knew it,

448
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: so they felt his emotional support. But it also it's

449
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 3: very evident that from an administrative level, and that's what

450
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 3: I'm talking about prerexit, like Penn State supports its student

451
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 3: athletes at the highest level. And I think they felt that,

452
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: and I think that was part of like this is awesome,

453
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 3: We're in the right place, Like this is we pull together.

454
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 3: We can do this because we've got all the support.

455
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: So I think I think it was about loving each other,

456
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 3: like how much they cared for each other and how

457
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 3: fortunate we are to be where we're at with the

458
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: support that we have.

459
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've obviously I'm partial because I went

460
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: there and I played there, but but you know, having

461
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Speaker 1: doctor Craft come in and what I've watched and what

462
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,199
Speaker 1: he's done, and you know, there he is on you know,

463
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: on the wrestling match, screaming, you know, when they're winning

464
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 1: a national champion, there he is, you know, in football

465
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: and and you know champion, you know champion, you know

466
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: the you know, semi champion, you know semi uh the

467
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 1: semi final game, and there he is, you know, in

468
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: the volleyball court, and there he is with you guys.

469
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: You know, I mean it's just like you finally see

470
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: somebody who is so invested in these young kids and

471
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: wants to provide them with the greatest experience there is,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, as a student athlete and as a as

473
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Speaker 1: a Penn stater. You know, that's what the Penn State

474
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: family means, you know, with all.

475
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Speaker 3: You know what I got to interrupt there because you

476
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 3: might I wonder if you've seen this, because what you

477
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 3: just talked about, there's this little video that encompasses all that.

478
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 3: And I talked about our sini. It was after it

479
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: was after we want in overtime in Allentown to go

480
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 3: to the Frozen four, and there was a shot of

481
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: Doctor Craft congratulating RC. But it wasn't like a congratulations.

482
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 3: It was more like a I mean, it was cool,

483
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 3: Like it was really genuine emotion, like it was awesome.

484
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: And you see that, And I can tell you our

485
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 3: sceny certainly felt feels a lot of love from his

486
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: team and our program, but now now he feels it

487
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 3: from the entire athletic party and because of what doctor

488
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 3: Kraft represents all of Penn State, like that moment, I

489
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: think for Arci and it was just it made him

490
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: a Penn Stater for life. I promise you that. Like

491
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 3: it was just awesome stuff. And when you talk about

492
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: the difference of Penn State, there is a difference. And

493
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 3: I thought that little like two second three second video

494
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 3: and you know, sort of encapsulated all of that.

495
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Speaker 2: Amen to that.

496
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Speaker 1: All right, you have just accomplished something that hasn't happened

497
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Speaker 1: in the program's history. But yet when you look at

498
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: the advancements and and you know, you keep advancing this

499
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: program to such a high degree, what does it look

500
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: like in the future, where do you go now? Obviously

501
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 1: you know you I'd watched one interview where you talked

502
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: about what mister Pegoula's intention was, which was to drive

503
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, Penn State to become a premier program, to

504
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: bring Penn State, you know, phill Pennsylvania hockey players, regional

505
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: hockey players.

506
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: Into the program.

507
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: What does that look like for you guys right now

508
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: in moving forward?

509
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: Correct? And that is a big part of his vision.

510
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 3: Wasn't just for a Division one program to get up

511
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 3: a Division on hockey team at Penn State. It wasn't.

512
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 3: He really talked about being a catalyst to improve the

513
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 3: profile and the quality of hockey in Pennsylvania. And I

514
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 3: think he's done that. Like I really think he's starting

515
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: to get exactly what he wanted. And it didn't happen

516
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 3: right away. I think this is a great step. The

517
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: fact that Penn State went to the Frozen four, I

518
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: think really shows that he was right that it would happen.

519
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: A lot of people said, you know, you're nuts. I

520
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 3: think proves he was right. And where we go from

521
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: here is really to continue on the path. Like it's awesome,

522
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: the winning is great, but our job, like we're not here.

523
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: We're not saying like it's all about winning. It's not.

524
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: And I mean to be honest, Rutt, like I used

525
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: to think that I got to be honest with you,

526
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 3: like I did. I used to when I was a

527
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 3: little younger coach, Like I thought, that's all my job was,

528
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: Like that's I do my job and the rest of

529
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: it cares itself. And in fact, it's almost completely opposite.

530
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: It's it's our job is to prepare these hockey, these

531
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: student athletes that we get for success in life. That's

532
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 3: that's the honest truth. And it's obviously going to include hockey,

533
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 3: and through hockey, we're going to learn those things. But

534
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 3: it's not for us to win. It's for us to

535
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 3: prepare them, give them lessons, give them the support like

536
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: I talked about athletic department, give them everything they need

537
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 3: to be successful, and then allow them to learn those

538
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: lessons along the way that they're going to apply later

539
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: on in life. And for many of them it's going

540
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: to mean hockey as well. But I'm talking about after that,

541
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: Like if you can imagine the lesson about really staying

542
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: positive together, Like you can talk and read all you want,

543
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: but you go through it and you prove to yourself

544
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: that that is real. I mean, that's something that sticks

545
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 3: with you well beyond hockey or sports. I mean, that's

546
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 3: something that you're going to use with any business twenty

547
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,719
Speaker 3: years from now, your family, twenty twenty five years forever.

548
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: And that's a really important thing. So when I say

549
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: where are we going, We're just going to continue to

550
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: fight to do all we can to prepare our guys

551
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: that we have that we've been blessed enough to have

552
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: our guys, We're going to do everything to prepare them

553
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: for success in life. And we do that success and

554
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: wins follow. So it's not about winning. It's about doing

555
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: what it takes to be the best person you can

556
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: and winning will follow. That's what we do.

557
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Man, Coach.

558
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: When you speak and you talk like that, man, it's

559
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: just I realize that you know, you are the real deal.

560
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: And and and the other thing that really was incredibly

561
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 1: moving to me this year and this whole thing was

562
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think you know that that

563
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: that first time I came in and and you know,

564
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: you guys were playing Army and your son was at Army,

565
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: and as you know, an All American first team All American.

566
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: He's one of the best players I've ever seen. He's

567
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: a defense you know, he's just a he's a machine

568
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: on the eyes, a beast. Well he he has decided

569
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: to to, you know, give up a commission serving in

570
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: the US military to come and play with you. I mean,

571
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, I don't even know how I

572
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: would even handle that. If if, if, But but tell

573
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: me how what that feels like? That your your son,

574
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: who is already you know, out there, you know, moving

575
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: towards this impressive place. But he says, you know what,

576
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: my dad is such a phenomenal coach. He has built

577
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: such a phenomenal.

578
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: Group of young men.

579
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Speaker 1: They are becoming the type of young men that I

580
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: want to become.

581
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: So I want to go play for him.

582
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: How is to talk about that for just a little bit,

583
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: if you could.

584
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if it is. Quite honestly, it's

585
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: not him wanting to play for his dad by any means,

586
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: and it's not me wanting to coach him. And that's

587
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: the truth. I'm extremely I don't know how much like

588
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: I have extreme respect for the military. Extreme. I went

589
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: through a couple of experiences, starting from Alaska, that had

590
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: a love for it. Anyway, one of my most proud

591
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: moments was him being admitted to West Point and when

592
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: he went there, there was at the time, there was

593
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: rules in place in the governmental that these cadets could

594
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 3: go play pro and then the first service, and that

595
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: was a big It was important to him because he's

596
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 3: always had a dream to play professionally. But so anyway,

597
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: he went to West Point and had the absolute I

598
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: think they will be the two best years of his

599
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: entire life, no matter what happens from up from now.

600
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: I care. I guarantee it, and I'm positive they will

601
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: be the two most impactful. His coaches are un believable,

602
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 3: his team was unbelievable. You talk about a brotherhood, and like,

603
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: he's got it and he loves that and he loves

604
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: his team, and he's loved West Point. And the decision

605
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: to do this was I got it. It was extremely

606
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: difficult for him, and he knew for two years that

607
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 3: would be coming because he again I said, he had

608
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: this goal to play play pro. He wanted to the

609
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: rules just as he was going into Beast training changed.

610
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: Oh wow. Yeah. And so right now, as it is,

611
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 3: it's not guaranteed that these players are up are able

612
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: to go. Now they're trying to change it back, and

613
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: I really hope they do because there's so many great

614
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 3: cadets that I think they get. They want the opportunity,

615
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 3: they want to serve for sure, but they want the

616
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 3: opportunity to try go play pro live out their dream first.

617
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 3: So anyway, that's what happened. He had the he had

618
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 3: to make a choice. Ultimately, he was like, I want

619
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 3: to follow my dream. I want to play, and he

620
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: had such a good season that he was starting to

621
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: get attention from NHL teams that made it his dream

622
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 3: almost more real, and it ultimate he decided, Okay, I

623
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: want to go somewhere where I know I can follow that.

624
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 3: So it wasn't I want to go to pet stage

625
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: play for my dad. But what happened in the meantime

626
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: is our you know, our coaches are saying, look like

627
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: we need we needed a devestment, and he is right

628
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: now like we can't play against him, like let's do this,

629
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 3: and so it really it wasn't. I think now that

630
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 3: it happened, I think I feel extremely blessed that I'm

631
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: going to get the opportunity to spend more time with

632
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: him because he's been fun from home since he was

633
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: fourteen years old. So this is a real blessing and

634
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 3: that I'm extremely grateful for. But it wasn't I want

635
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: to coach my son. It just so happened that the

636
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 3: need that we had. He's a as you mentioned, he's

637
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 3: an All American and Hobbly top ten like I do

638
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: not want to play against him. I'll tell you that

639
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: that's what happened.

640
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: You're you're awesome. Thank you for that humble response. Well,

641
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: coach again, I just you've been one of you played

642
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: a major role and me reshaping what I know is

643
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 1: a great coach and a great leader.

644
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: And and it's you know, and yes it's it.

645
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: Is your tactical proficiency, it's your knowledge of this beautiful game.

646
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: But more so it's what you the space you provide

647
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: for these young men to become the men they want

648
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: to be in order to have the experience that they

649
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: had this year. And and to all your your team

650
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Speaker 1: and those young men, you know, just please share how

651
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: proud I am of them and what I witnessed this

652
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: year was was one of the greatest experiences of my

653
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: entire life.

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00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: To be able to watch.

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Speaker 1: These these these these tough, tough young men achieve something

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Speaker 1: that nobody thought they could do.

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Speaker 2: It was brilliant. So you know, thank you sir.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, that's very kind. I appreciate that. I know

659
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 3: you you asked me not to talk about this, but

660
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: I have to because I feel really they did. They

661
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: came together in a really tough way and honestly to

662
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: have uh you know the guy that trained Michael Murphy

663
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: and what it meant to like that was really impactful

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Speaker 3: to us. So I appreciate what you said, but I

665
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 3: have to, honestly, I have to thank you. I know

666
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 3: you asked me not to talk about it, but if

667
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: we're going to tell the true story, that was very

668
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: impactful for our team. So it's funny how things happen.

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Speaker 1: Amen, it is well coach, God bless you, and hope

670
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: to see soon man have a great off season.

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Speaker 3: You got it, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: How does a person develop mental in physical toughness and

673
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Speaker 1: then and then and then how do how do how

674
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Speaker 1: do they take that and try and invest it in

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Speaker 1: other people and develop and develop that in people that

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Speaker 1: they're kind of passing it on to.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, I'm going to try answer this question

678
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 3: I think physical toughness is extremely important. There's different ways

679
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: to do that. I think it's important to do that. However,

680
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: the mental toughness aspect of it, I think is more important.

681
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: And you talk about your award, the fire and the

682
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: gut award, I think it's similar to something we do.

683
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: And here's the deal. When everything is going well, you

684
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: have a lot of guys that lead, that are comfortable leading,

685
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: that have fun leading, and are positive. Okay, it's my

686
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: experience that when things aren't going well, not only not

687
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: going I mean really bad, when things are going bad,

688
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: then you find out who really has fire in the gut.

689
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: Because it's very different to lead when things are terrible

690
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 3: and do it in a positive way because if you

691
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: do it negatively and this and this point fingers like,

692
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 3: you can get worse in a hurry. So when you say,

693
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: how do you develop it?

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Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this incredible

695
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: follow on interview with Coach Godowski, please go to our

696
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: Patreon account at David Rutherford's show. Join with a small

697
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Speaker 1: subscription of two dollars a month, and you will hear

698
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: the rest of this plus other incredible dedicated content.

699
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Speaker 2: But the big news.

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Speaker 1: That we're going to announce right now on this show

701
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: is on May thirty. First, I'm going to deliver a

702
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: motivational event with follow on Q and A for our

703
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: subscribers and where I'm going to introduce what is motivation,

704
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: Where's it come from, and how do we employ it

705
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: in our lives?

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Speaker 2: So don't miss it.

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Speaker 1: Join our Patreon account at David Rutherford's show for our

708
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: live event and the follow on.

709
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: Discussion with Coach Kadowski.

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Speaker 1: Well, after you spend a little bit of time listening

711
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: to Coach Kadosky and you listen to what these young

712
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: men went through during this incredible season.

713
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: If you're anything like me, you that hits you down

714
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: deep right. It hits you in the place that that

715
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 2: lifts us up right.

716
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: It hits us in the place that the negative insurgency

717
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: can't reach. It hits us in that space where in

718
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: the midst of a tough day, or we're going through hardship,

719
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: or we're struggling in our lives, we hear a story

720
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: like that, a story about the underdog pulling up out

721
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: of the depths of defeat and coming back and doing

722
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: something that nobody thought they could do. That's those are

723
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Speaker 1: the stories that we need more of in this life.

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00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is so often nowadays, as people are consumed

726
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: with the negative aspects of what's in their feed over

727
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: and over, or in the pretend world of the veneer

728
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: of fabricated luxury or fabricated joy or.

729
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Whatever that is.

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Speaker 1: As well, we all know that underneath everybody story, there's

731
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Speaker 1: you know, there's there's hardship, there's pain, and in particular

732
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: for this story itself. And although I I was humbled

733
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: by by what Coach Gad said and in the role

734
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Speaker 1: I played, I'm here to tell you it was It's

735
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: not what you think it was, all right. I was

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Speaker 1: introduced from my good friend Rick de Rosa, who is

737
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: one of the best human beings I've ever met in

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Speaker 1: my entire life. I just I love you, Rick, I

739
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: love what you represent, I love who you are. And

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00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: by the way, Rick came, you know, got recruited by

741
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: Coach Gads. He was going to go play at Princeton,

742
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean, and coach got the job to take Penn

743
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: State hockey from a club team to a Division one

744
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: Big ten team. And Rick came on as a freshman

745
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Speaker 1: and then finished four years later as a captain of

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Speaker 1: the team and won a Big ten championship, right and

747
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously there were many other players that

748
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: supported that, but Rick was the heartbeat of that. And

749
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: so when Rick came to me and said, man, you

750
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: gotta meet this coach. You gotta, you gotta, uh he's

751
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: really wonderful and and and you know, like I said,

752
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: you know, these first times we were able to communicate

753
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: were really impactful to me because he was like the

754
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: old school coaches I had growing up, right, those coaches

755
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: from the seventies and the eighties who you know, talking

756
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: he'd be like this and his tooth would be missing

757
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: earning and he'd be like, you know, Rod, I want

758
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: to you know that great that fight.

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00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 2: I want him to got there.

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00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: I want him to put a guy into the board,

761
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Speaker 1: and I want him to fight for the you know.

762
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: And I'm like, holy cow, like give me some skates, man,

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Speaker 1: and I want to get on there.

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Speaker 2: Right shorty.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's that, it's that that that feeling like

766
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: you you feel had come off people you felt that before.

767
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: Havn't you?

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00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: Oh?

769
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, that's a long story. I had a uh,

770
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 4: not quite the same thing, but I had a drum

771
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Speaker 4: line coach. Have you ever seen the movie Whiplash?

772
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a wonderful movie.

773
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: I had that guy as my, uh my coach in that.

774
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: So that was it was interesting.

775
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: I got a little flavor of it.

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Speaker 1: There you go, and so you you have that. He

777
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: hits me and then he's then he tells me the story. Listen,

778
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna go play Army. It's the weekend of the

779
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: Army Navy game, which is a monster deal, right, and

780
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna play you know, Army, and we're gonna but

781
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: I you know, there's this whole thing going on him, like,

782
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, what's up. And he tells me the story

783
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: about how the team has committed themselves to you know,

784
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: this beautiful inscription on on Michael Murphy's memorial at Penn State.

785
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: And you know, and and and and.

786
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Speaker 1: As he mentioned, you know, I had the real honor

787
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: and privilege to be, you know, play some minute little

788
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,959
Speaker 1: role in Mike Murphy's life. I was an s QT

789
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: instructor when he came through, and Danny and Marcus and

790
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: some of the other guys part of Red Wings and

791
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: and and and for me, it wasn't like, oh look

792
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: at me. I I trained him and it's nothing like that.

793
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: But what for me, what I what I was so

794
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: inspired by, was that they took this story, this underdog story,

795
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: and they wanted to fuse it and to build help

796
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: build them the culture of their team.

797
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: Because that's what it is.

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00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it always is, right, It's it's

799
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: never this one individual, it's it's the culture that emerges

800
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: out of those gritty individuals coming together and infusing the

801
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: idea together. And so you know, on this beautiful memorial

802
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: to pay tribute to to Mike, you know, it's it's

803
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: it says, you know, with your shield or on it.

804
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: And that's the famous quote that King Leonidas's wife, the

805
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Queen of Sparta, shared with him as he and and

806
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: and you know, the three hundred Spartans marched off to

807
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: face the Persians at the at the Hot Gates, you know,

808
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: in twenty five hundred Athenians. When I'm going to this

809
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: core of three hundred that were marching to their certain deaths,

810
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 1: uh to face this this you know, army the size

811
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: of which most people had never dreamed or seen of

812
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: in their lives. And they stood hard for three days

813
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: at the Hot Gates. And you know, and and and

814
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: stood their ground until they were all annihilated, you know.

815
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: And and so here these young college kids. And so

816
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: for all of you people out there that thinks this

817
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: younger generation is isn't worth it, damn you know, you

818
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: got to check yourself on that. That's ridiculous.

819
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, there are some kids who are struggling.

820
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 1: There are some kids that have been indoctrinated into things

821
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: that maybe you know, aren't benefiting them on a on

822
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: a deeper level. But there are literally millions of kids

823
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: out there that are are doing the right things, putting

824
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: themselves in the right moments in order to to to

825
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: find that fusion point to drive them forward to become

826
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Speaker 1: something that they always dreamed that would be coming.

827
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Speaker 2: If you know anything.

828
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Speaker 1: About hockey, this does not happen you're freshman year high

829
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: school man. Hockey is something that starts very early on

830
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: in a young person's life.

831
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Speaker 2: And it's and it's like this infection.

832
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: Right, Why else would you want to get in a freezy,

833
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: cold arena. Right, You're on skates, you can barely move,

834
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: and you you skate as fast as you can at

835
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: at at long time, long periods, and then you drive

836
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: people into the boards and you fight each other. And

837
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to be a little bit mental

838
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: to want to play the sport. And that's why I

839
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: have so much respect for it. But so these kids

840
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: from a very early age, they drive themselves and and

841
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: so as I came into this, and and mind you,

842
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: you know the Big Ten Hockey conferences, you know, one

843
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: of the most dominant conferences there is. And you know,

844
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: I know I kind of joked about main mains of

845
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: phenomenal so as BEU and all these other incredible pros

846
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: out there, but the Big Ten has really been a

847
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: juggernaut in college hockey for a long, long period. So

848
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: this is what they're up against. And they took this

849
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: idea and it's not just the idea of the Battle

850
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: of Thermopyline, it's the idea behind It's the idea behind

851
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: Mike Murphy and the story of what took place in

852
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: Red Wings and that you know, he sacrificed himself for

853
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: his teaming. And that's a powerful thing to allow that

854
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: to hit you in your heart. It's a powerful thing

855
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: to allow another person sacrifice, another person's pain, another person's

856
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: dedication to something that's bigger than themselves, to trigger that.

857
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: Thing in your heart.

858
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: It really is a powerful, powerful moment, and I've been

859
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: blessed to have many of those in my life. And

860
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: that's what I tried instill. And so when I did

861
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: show up for this, it wasn't at all about hey,

862
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: listen to rout or frog logic or anything about it.

863
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: But I wanted to tie them to the person.

864
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to somehow let them connect to these ideas,

865
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: you know. But I also told the story of of

866
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Speaker 1: Mike Monsour who jumped on a grenade to save his

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Speaker 1: buddy's lives. I told the story of Mike Thornton, who

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Speaker 1: who saved his lieutenant and several other South Vietnamese guys

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Speaker 1: in this insane battle against a hugely superior force. And

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Speaker 1: I told you know, the story of the lieutenant who

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Speaker 1: Mike Thornton saved, which was my Tommy Norris, who he

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Speaker 1: won a Medal of Honor doing this personnel recovery of

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Speaker 1: these two pilots that was even more crazy than than

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Speaker 1: this these other ones.

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Speaker 2: So all of.

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Speaker 1: These stories that I used to help connect kind of

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Speaker 1: that underdog mentality, but it's it's to the construct of

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Speaker 1: sacrifice for a bigger purpose, a bigger cause. And I

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Speaker 1: you know, that was the thing that I was trying

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Speaker 1: to imbue in these young men. And then they you know,

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Speaker 1: at that point, and it wasn't me. It was them

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Speaker 1: coming together and recognizing the power of the story, the

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Speaker 1: power of that ability to connect to something that's bigger

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Speaker 1: than yourself. And then they took that and they ran

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Speaker 1: with it. And it's really just a remarkable thing. Every

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Speaker 1: time I would watch or listen to these young men

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Speaker 1: being interviewed and pay attention and what they did and

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Speaker 1: how far they took this program that's relatively new.

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Speaker 2: It really was somewhat of a miracle.

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Speaker 1: Now again, you know, every time you mentioned the word

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Speaker 1: miracle and hockey, there's an automatic reflection of the nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty Olympic. You know, a hockey game where you know,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of college kids, you know, beat Russian for

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Speaker 1: the gold medal and or actually for the semi and

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Speaker 1: then went on to win the gold, you know, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you know.

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Speaker 2: What about that movie? And I reference that movie quite

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Speaker 2: a bit.

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Speaker 1: And I did have an opportunity when I on my

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Speaker 1: old show that I did with Marcus, we interviewed the

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Speaker 1: goalkeeper for.

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Speaker 2: That, which was amazing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, my favorite scene in that movie, you know,

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Speaker 1: and the story is when you know they play Sweden.

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Speaker 1: I think they failed bat miserably and then the coach

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Speaker 1: you know, gets them on the line. You remember watching

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Speaker 1: that movie Jordi, right where they're doing the suicides back

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Speaker 1: and forth and they're.

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Speaker 2: Right and they're.

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Speaker 1: Vomiting on the ice, and you know they're they're you know,

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Speaker 1: they're they're dying, and you know every you know, some

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Speaker 1: of the assistant coaches are like, hey, coach, isn't that enough?

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Speaker 2: And he's like no, and he keeps them going.

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Speaker 1: And then there's the famous line You're like, you're not

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Speaker 1: doing this for the name that's on the back of

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Speaker 1: the jersey.

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Speaker 2: You're doing it what's on the front, which was USA.

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Speaker 2: And I think the.

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Speaker 1: Embodiment of of all of this that I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: get you to understand is that we're all underdogs in

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Speaker 1: some context. We're all struggling to achieve a greater a

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Speaker 1: greater meaning. And all I hope that you're going to

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Speaker 1: pull out of this interview is that the greater meaning

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Speaker 1: is when you sacrifice so that someone else succeeds. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that's the whole criteria of this, this, this,

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Speaker 1: this whole story and and and the story of mirakwon

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Speaker 1: Ice and the story of Mike Murphy and the story

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Speaker 1: of of the underdog. Is that it's the the fire

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Speaker 1: that comes out of.

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Speaker 2: You, I hate, the the thing.

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Speaker 1: Inside your your heart and your soul, whatever that is,

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Speaker 1: whatever you believe, it is that that ignites. And then

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Speaker 1: you you put forth an effort that you never dreamed

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Speaker 1: was possible, but not for the victory for yourself, but

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Speaker 1: more importantly, you sacrifice so that your team or teammates

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Speaker 1: or the people that you love most, that they achieve

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Speaker 1: their victory. So I just really am grateful. I'm honored

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Speaker 1: that Coach Gads would come on and share this story

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Speaker 1: of these incredible young men, and I just I feel

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Speaker 1: very blessed today in this moment, we are