1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: My fiance invited his ex situationship to our wedding without 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: telling me. 3 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: The more the merrier, as they say. 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Especially all the situationships, as they also say, I twenty 5 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: three year old female, I'm getting married in January and 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: just found out my fiance, Mark twenty five year old 7 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: male fake name, invited his old situationship to our wedding 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: without consulting me. Well she's a who right, Yeah, that's 9 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: why she's a good time. By the way, this comes 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: from you dash No Nectarine two nine to nine on 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the r okay storytime subredit. So for context, me and 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Mark met on a dating app two years ago after 13 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: he broke up with the relationship. To be honest, it's 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: quite confusing what he and Tracy, twenty two year old 15 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: female had. They met because of a mutual friend and 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: started to develop feelings for each other. Mark told me 17 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: they never dated or slept together, but it was more 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: than friendship. Until today, he keeps her love letters, gifts 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: and talks about her. Okay, So they had like a 20 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: romantic relationship. There was love letters. Supposedly, they never like 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: dated or slept together. 22 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: It sounds like she didn't want to get in a relationship, 23 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: you think so if he was writing love letters? Oh wait, 24 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: who was writing the love letters? Both parties? 25 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: He keeps her love letters, so. 26 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 2: He didn't want the relationship. 27 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: Well, we don't know. Like, yeah, that's a good, good question, 28 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: Like why didn't they date if they were sending love 29 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: letters to each other. Tracy and him try to stay 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: in contact after the breakup, so they didn't date according 31 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: to the story. But they had a breakup staying friends, 32 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: but she ghosted him after finding out we started to 33 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: date from when I saw on her social media. She's 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: in a relationship, so I'm not worried about her trying 35 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: to get with my fiance again. They haven't been in 36 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: contact for two years, but he still has her number 37 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and email. I found out about him inviting her after 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I checked again our guest list and finding her name. 39 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I know Tracy's not a threat to our relationship, but 40 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: Mark inviting her behind my back makes me feel bad 41 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: about our whole wedding. He told me he doesn't feel 42 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: anything for her, yet he made sure to send her 43 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: an invitation. This is probably me being insecure, but my 44 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: fear of him not getting over her is slowly creep 45 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: inside my heart. I don't want to lose him, she said. 46 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: My fear of him not getting over here is slowly 47 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: creeping inside my Oh. Okay, after reading the comments and 48 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: talking with some friends, my heart finally understood Mark never 49 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: really got over Tracy. In the beginning. I was in denial, 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: but I went out with Tom, twenty four year old male, 51 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: his best friend of years, to understand about what really 52 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: happened between them. Tracy and Mark met because of some 53 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: friends in comment. Okay, we're gonna get the whole backstory. 54 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go. 55 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: So she just got into the university and was seventeen 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: at the time, while Mark was already almost graduating. They 57 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: stayed of friends for two years and feelings started to blossom. 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Ok. 59 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: Mark was already working while she was still in college. 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: She only wanted to formally date her after her graduation. 61 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: He was the one limiting it from being a real relationship. 62 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 3: Got it. 63 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: It was never a thing, even though they shared love letters, gifts, 64 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: and shared almost every holiday together. So Tom told me 65 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: everyone from their old friend group thought they would marry 66 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: since they were so sweet together, So their breakup was 67 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: really unpredictable. So the breakup was really unpredictable. Tracy was 68 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the one who broke up with Mark due to their 69 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: religious values not lining up. Oh so she actually broke 70 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: up with him as she wanted to save herself until marriage. 71 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: In the end, they decided it was better to go 72 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: separate ways and maybe try again after a few years. 73 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: But after me and Mark started to date, Tracy realized 74 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: that it was pointless to wait for him and started 75 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: to see other people, so she blocked him and everything 76 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: except email, just to have a clean beginning. 77 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, but this was the girl. 78 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: In the end, I finally realized Mark is just hopeful 79 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: that Tracy will come back to him due to their 80 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: talks of trying again after a while. It honestly hurts 81 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: so much as I loved him so much. I still 82 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: didn't confront him since I'm still shaken up. But I 83 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: don't know if this marriage will happen. I'm going to 84 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: update once I calm down and confront him. Okay, so 85 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: there isn't another update I wanna. I just want to 86 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: say there are so many assumptions going on on Op's part. Yeah, 87 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: they make sense. It's you know, it's quite reasonable to 88 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: like hear about all this stuff, not really know it, 89 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: and to like jump to all these conclusions, but they 90 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: will stay conclusions until they are confirmed. And she said 91 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: she's gonna confront him. There's nothing really to like confront 92 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: him about. It's more of just like checking if these 93 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: things are true or not. He's been a while since 94 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the last update, and I'm here to announce the wedding 95 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: has been called off. My parents are the one canceling 96 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: everything for me. It's like I returned to my childhood 97 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: when mom and dad had to solve my problems. I 98 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: confronted Mark after talking with Tom and made him aware 99 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: of everything I've been dealing with. His reaction at the 100 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: beginning was dismissive and was almost as if he was 101 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: trying to escape from the situation. In the end, we 102 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: don't know how she brought it up to him, but 103 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: it could possibly have been very blaming, don't We don't know. 104 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the way it was. 105 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: In the end marks that he never loved somewhat. You 106 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: were right the first love theory. It is yes, pracy 107 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: because it was pure and innocent. 108 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 2: He dunked it. 109 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jesus Christ, Oh my god. So she reminded him 110 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: that not everything is about carnal desire and in the 111 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: darkest moments of his life. Tracy was like the sunlight 112 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: Jesus godle Hearing the man you love admitting how much 113 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: he loved a woman is so hurtful. So one Opie 114 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: was making a lot of us sumptions. They turned out 115 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: to be true. 116 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: This isn't always the case. Okay, don't follow this rule book. 117 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: This is the only sestion. Yeah, like you do a 118 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: math problem, yeah, and you do it wrong. We get 119 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: the answer right. 120 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: During the talk, I started to cry, balling my eyes out. 121 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's so sad. Dude. Mark had the audacity to 122 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: say he loves me, but it's a different kind of low. 123 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: I asked why he invited her to our wedding, and 124 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: he was speechless. Why he had to throw away our 125 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: future for something in the past. This hurts so much. 126 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: Mark told me he knew Tracy didn't block him on 127 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: email since he was the one who helped her get 128 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: her first job and a lot of professional stuff was 129 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: also involved. This is how he was able to send 130 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: her our wedding invitation, but he meant no harm. When 131 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: I asked what he meant with this, Mark just said 132 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: he wanted to make her watch us together and realize 133 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: what she lost because he was hurt that Tracy was 134 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,559 Speaker 1: pregnant and not married. So the moment Mark mentioned about 135 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: Tracy's pregnancy, a red alarm started echo in my head. 136 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: How did he know about her pregnancy? You said? She 137 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: blocked talk to you everywhere. I could see panic in 138 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: his eyes as he started to stutter. In the end, 139 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I made him give me his phone and I found 140 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: out more than five accounts to stalk Tracy. My stomach 141 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: felt sick and the urge to vomit was overwhelming. In 142 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: the end, I decided to call off the engagement since 143 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: he was a creep. Mark threw himself on the floor 144 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: asking for forgiveness, and he loves me, just a different one. 145 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: So he's on the floor. I love you so much, baby, 146 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: but like not like I love Tracy's much, So it's 147 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: in a different way compared to Tracy, and was just 148 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 1: hurt that she gave herself to another man while he 149 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: begged her countless times for a spicy sleep. This made 150 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: me feel even more disgusted with him because he felt 151 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: entitled to her virginity and body. Yeah, it's never a 152 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: good look to beg someone to sleep with you. Oh 153 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: my gosh, I left without taking even a bag with me. 154 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 1: Everything is just too much. I can't believe I spent 155 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: two years loving a stalker manchild. 156 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: Oh. 157 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: I also told Tracy everything and his accounts. 158 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 2: That's what I was about to say. You can be 159 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: a girls girl here and let Tracy know. Damn. 160 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: So, I don't know if she saw my messages, but 161 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I hope she does. The jealousy I once felt for 162 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: her transformed into pity is no woman should go through 163 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: what Mark has done. Mark wants to meet up with 164 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: me and doesn't want to break up, but I'm just 165 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: so tired. Small update Tracy messaged me and wants to 166 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: get a coffee with me. This is like that one 167 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: movie with kay Upton which like they all the girlfriends 168 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: got together and like plotted the downfall of the man. 169 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: Update three. I think this is my last update, since 170 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: I've already met up with Tracy and talked about what happened. 171 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: Me and her med at a cafe. In the beginning, 172 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I was really nervous as I didn't know what was 173 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: her reaction because her reply was HI. When I was 174 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: waiting for her, I could feel my back sweating and 175 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: overall lots of emotion. Tracy arrived and I finally understood 176 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: why Mark was so obsessed with her, as she's definitely 177 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,119 Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful women I saw. Oh wow, 178 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: she's pretty on the pictures, but personally she looks better. 179 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: Tracy said hell out of me and asked if I'm 180 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: willing to go to her house to talk since being 181 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: outside for too long makes her really tired. We ordered 182 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: some coffee to go and it was super awkward. So 183 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: now let's talk about what she told me. First of all, 184 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: she apologized for being the reason why now I'm single, 185 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: which I assured her is not her fault. Tracy said 186 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: she received the invitation but was simply not interested in 187 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: participating in our wedding as she was already in a 188 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: happy relationship and is pointless to see a person from 189 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the past. With the story Tom and Mark told me, 190 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: I got curious and asked about them staying friends, as 191 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: it sounded like she wanted to stay with him after 192 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: the breakup and it's the polar opposite of her behavior. 193 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: Tracy was extremely uncomfortable with this question, but still explained 194 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: to me why. She said that in the beginning she 195 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: was really in love with Mark because he was her 196 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: first love. She described him as a protector, someone trustworthy, 197 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: handsome and kind, as he always showered her in gifts 198 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: and travels. Everything was fine and sweet, but over time 199 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: Mark started to beg her for spicy sleep, so much 200 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: to the point of her pretending to me sick just 201 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: to avoid him. Scary, she just didn't want to sleep 202 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: with him, had had some sort of blockage, like a 203 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: sixth sense telling her not to do it. She was 204 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: sick and tired about all this and used the fact 205 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: that her parents were extremely religious to justify why spicy 206 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: sleep was off the table. This led to a fight, 207 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: which Mark never told me, and then breaking up. Oh 208 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: so the spicy sleep was the soul. Oh, I guess 209 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: did you mentioned that earlier? 210 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: He thought it was a religious thing. Yeah, but it 211 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: was because she was like, he was. 212 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: Like pressuring her to have a spicy sleep, and she 213 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, yeah, like her body was just 214 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: saying no. So but two weeks after they started to 215 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: talk again, and she felt in debt with him as 216 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: he helped her get a job in a prestigious company 217 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: and he spent a lot of money on her with trips, foods, 218 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: and presents. Oh jeez. One of the guests was a 219 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: Rolex eighteenth birthday, which made me mad since he never 220 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: spent so much money on me. She's like, he never 221 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: got craft. He never got so when Tracy found out 222 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: me and Mark were seeing each other, she felt relieved 223 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: and finally had a proper reason to block him everywhere, 224 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: since he was still sometimes hinting about them sleeping together. 225 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: Woah, Dan ros he felt you were like, he spent 226 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: thousands on me. I own this well. 227 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: He's like, even after they're breaking up, he he's messaging 228 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: her hinting, like still trying to get spicy sleep. 229 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 2: With her wild, sheeus. 230 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: In the end, I told her in the entire relationship, 231 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Mark would sometimes talk about her and in the beginning 232 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: it was kind of weird, but I just brushed off 233 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: since she was part of the story. But if you 234 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: want to be part of our story, you could join 235 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: us live on YouTube every week the a three pm PST. 236 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: Just have our profile. There's another relevant update. Plus, I 237 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: talked about Mark's numerous accounts, and in the beginning she 238 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: didn't believe me, but I showed her the accounts I knew, 239 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,239 Speaker 1: which was creepy since they all had female names. Followers 240 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: and pictures, so put he put effort into these accounts. 241 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He was like cultivating and following. 242 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: He was like, she's posting. Sometimes you can tell accounts 243 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 2: of fake because it's like they all got posted within 244 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 2: like three days of each other. But he probably was like, 245 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna post this one here, Schedule this one there, 246 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: schedule this one there. 247 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: This one is living in Mark's head rent free like 248 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: for years. Calley, her account is public, so I asked 249 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Tracy to make it private. She made a new account 250 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: with her Korean name and deactivated the old one. We 251 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: had fun and became friends. 252 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: Nice. 253 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: It really is like that movie, Like she is a 254 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: really sweet person, and I saw how her boyfriend treated 255 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: her like a queen. I'm happy she found love and 256 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: got rid of Mark. Well, it's just scary, like hearing 257 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: these stories and hearing about how people are in these 258 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: relationships and they're like in love with their partners, they're 259 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: gonna marry, and then they just find out all this crap. Yeah, 260 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: they're just not comfortable. 261 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 2: Like that's gonna take a lot of rewiring. 262 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully, and you get that make. 263 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: I was trying to get over a bad situationship, so 264 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: I talked to an online psychic checks out. They got 265 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 2: this new device where you put your hand on it 266 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: and they can read it off the device. I've recently 267 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: been and what can be called only as described as 268 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: quite an intense situationship. I know, I know four context. 269 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: Much of it was long distance and online until recently. 270 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: There have been times over the past few months where 271 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: I was falling in love with him and started to 272 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: believe we may be soulmates, meant to be together. We 273 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: connected so much, got on so well, had much in common, 274 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: and it was very sweet and loving. But sadly he's 275 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: broken it off after a period of a big change 276 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: in his life left him overwhelmed. This was also after 277 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks of barely talking slash responding to me. 278 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Melina Jeane Smith on 279 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 2: the r slash Okay story. Times separate so because much 280 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: of our future being quite unclear from different countries, situations, 281 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: work wise, financially, et cetera. There always felt like a 282 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: baseline of anxiety and insecurity, not in a wholly negative way, 283 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: just in a way where much more was up in 284 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: the air than in a more typical setup. 285 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: They're in different countries. This is long distance, long distance, 286 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: different countries. I wonder if they've ever met in person. 287 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: So a few weeks ago before formally breaking up, I 288 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: started talking to online psychics to try to seek for 289 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: some answers for context. I'm not super into the world 290 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: of claire voyancy. I said that, right, Yeah, you got it. 291 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 2: Nice spirituality, astrology, etc. I am an agnostic and have 292 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: quite a natural cynical approach to these things and mainly 293 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: see it as a bit of fun. 294 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: I wonder why this was what she jumped to. She 295 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: feels like it's like skeptical, like a pool to it. Yeah, 296 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: that was the first thing, and she was like, you 297 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: know what, I'm a check a psychic. 298 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: Hmm. I've never used or been into a medium before, 299 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: but I know a friend who has, so using a 300 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 2: service like this was quite out of character Loo, and 301 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 2: I've been surprised as to how much I liked it. 302 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: I never asked specific questions or gave too much information 303 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: about him Slash the situation mainly because I wanted to 304 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: test how much they could actually pick up on Slash, 305 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 2: how accurate they be, but also try to be respectful 306 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: with his privacy as much as possible. I don't know 307 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: if you can be respectable of privacy to a medium. 308 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: Because they already know, they already know you already know. 309 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't really know what I even 310 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: wanted to know from myself. I guess I just wanted 311 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: a general idea of how I should be investing this 312 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: time wise, if we weren't actually meant to be together 313 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: in the long run, as I wasn't getting real clarity 314 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: or communication from him at this point, so she was 315 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: just looking for answers any way means possible. Yeah, anyway, 316 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 2: I guess I just wanted to come on here and 317 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: say that using this service has generally helped me so much. 318 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: I feel a sponsorship coming up. This is just a 319 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: sponsorship for mediums. This week, this guy properly broke it 320 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: off with me slash friends on me. It was the 321 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: usual spill, I really like you, but can't do this 322 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: at the moment. If you told me three months ago 323 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: this was going to happen and I'd come out of 324 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: it the other side pretty on scratch, I would have 325 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: never believed it prior and during an approximate three week 326 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: period pre breakup. I think I'd open five to six 327 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: online chats with psychics on specific platforms. 328 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so she's just like going all in, She's like 329 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: psychic psychic psychic, like tell me everyth. 330 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: Whoa, I've never heard of this before. Yeah, the readings 331 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 2: they given me have all been short. You chose the 332 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: time frame and for the most part pretty accurate. They've 333 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: been able to glean his anxiety issues, temporary nature of 334 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: this stay here, he is an intel student, and few 335 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 2: more bits and bobs, Especially the conclusion from most has 336 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: been it's a great connection you have, but it will 337 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: lead to much further intimacy slash serious relationship. Ever, once 338 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 2: I kick in particular, without being prompt by me with 339 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 2: specific information or questions, has told me twice that she 340 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: knows this guy is not my soulmate and that I 341 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: will marry someone else. I haven't met my soulmate yet, 342 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: but the universe has prepared someone for me, and she 343 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: knows i'll meet him. Of course, no info on when 344 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: or where, which is good. After she told me this honesty, 345 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: a wave of acceptance and peace took over me. It 346 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: wasn't an immediate yeay, I'm completely overcurrent guy. Now time 347 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: to hunt for my new man. But more Okay, cool, 348 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: my time will come. I can let the situation go 349 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: with my head held high. 350 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so glad. It was like supportive and it was 351 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: just reassuring for her. 352 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy. She opened up and talked to 353 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: five to six different their psychics and they were all 354 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: like said the same thing. Yeah, that's why I trussed 355 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: that I'm someone that honestly doesn't have a natural inclination 356 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: to think about this kind of thing. Who I'll marry, 357 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: whether soulmates are real, where mine is, et cetera. But 358 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 2: her telling me this genuinely almost snap me out of 359 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 2: being sad about this new guy overnight. 360 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Good for her, wonderful. 361 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: I do also feel totally at peace with the very 362 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 2: real possibility that this is ALBS, and then I've maybe 363 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: been scammed by this website, etc. But honestly, I don't 364 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: regret spending the money on this or using the service 365 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: at all. It's what I needed for my own sancety 366 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: during this breakup slash period of high stress, and I 367 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: currently have enough disposable income that it's not completely insane. Loo. 368 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: The only thing that doesn't slightly worry me is that 369 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: maybe we shouldn't really know these kind of things about 370 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: our lives. It did feel slightly wrong gaining this information 371 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 2: from her loo, But I do kind of understand why 372 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: religious talks against using these kind of powers. But I've 373 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 2: done it now, Lol, So what can you do? So 374 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: religious are like, don't use these sort of powers, they'll 375 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: give you answers because you might obsess over it. 376 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. The way I feel about it is that there's 377 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: so many like inputs of data and this is one 378 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 1: input and to not like trust it is like absolute 379 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: and like I'm just gonna, you know, reject all other things, 380 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: reject my own intuition, reject my own instinct, and just 381 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: take this as blind faith. But I could totally you know, 382 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: I think it's totally reasonable to like include it as 383 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: a source of information and to have it inform your 384 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: decision and inform the way you approach things in some capacity. 385 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: Because I have done that before, where I believe from 386 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: my own experiences that this one person is meant for 387 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: me because of just some song that they played. Yeah, 388 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 2: because I was like, this is my special song, and 389 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 2: keep it from me, my girl, And then they played 390 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 2: it the first song they ever played. It was them wow, 391 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 2: And I was like, this is the girl for me, 392 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 2: And over time I got an answer and it was no, 393 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: oh really, And then we broke up. Wow, and that 394 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 2: broke me and I'm still kind of healing from it. 395 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: But make him way better. But if you do, like 396 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: you said, if you do, I like I gave myself up. 397 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: I was like, this isn't me. I'm going to go 398 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: all in and I lost myself during. Now I feel 399 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: it's been worth it for my peace of mind, and 400 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 2: it also means I can leave current guy in piece 401 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: two as he needs space. I don't feel the need 402 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: or urge to text him, so I try to win 403 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: back now, which is the best for both of us 404 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 2: and now in the long run. So she was able 405 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 2: to like give him up, I know that. I obviously 406 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: I may be a bit of a denial phase right now, 407 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: like in any relationship. Also, it's obviously not the ending 408 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: of a super long or serious relationship loo, which is 409 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 2: of course as on how easy this breakup is in 410 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: the end of grain scheme of things. So lots of 411 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 2: factors other than the sidekick part came into play here. 412 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: But you can come and play with us every weekday 413 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: at three pm PhD. Just tap a profile I'm not 414 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 2: trying to advise that to others. To do this, it 415 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 2: does cost a bit of money for transparency. I'm currently 416 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 2: not paying rent or bills. I probably spent a total 417 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 2: of one hundred and ten bucks over the past three 418 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 2: to four weeks. One hundred and ten pounds. 419 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: That's a little that much for like five psidekicksuse. 420 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 2: You're a student, you can choose either phone or web chats. 421 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm not going to link the specific path form our use. 422 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: What I can say is that it can be quite. 423 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: She's really shouting them out. 424 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: She really is without it was shouting up. Yeah, I don't 425 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: feel like that I personally became a dick, but I 426 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 2: see how you can very easily happen. So please be 427 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: careful if you ever use the service like this, Try 428 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: not to use them if you are in a strong 429 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: place financially, and be focused on what you want from it. 430 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: I personally don't think I'll be using them again, especially 431 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: when I go back to renting and paying bills all 432 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 2: the while. The conclusion I've gained is that maybe I've 433 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: gone a bit crazy, But what girl has it gone 434 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: crazy over? Surviving a situationship with a straight guy? Thanks 435 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: for reading so you can get over a breakup with Azager. 436 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: He cheated on me, but he. 437 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: Says we were on a break to give some contact. 438 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: My ex and I broke up in August after ten 439 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: months together because I noticed he started drinking more and more. 440 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: He was a drug addict, so I saw his use 441 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: as substance switching. Okay, I thought it was because he 442 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: was going through a tough time in his life. He 443 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: lost both of his jobs and was living on the 444 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: poverty line during this time. He found another job, but 445 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: it was super low paying and high stress. I paid 446 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: for all shared things for the both of us during 447 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: this time. I planned all the dates and I made 448 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: quality time for him. Often, to my frustration, he would 449 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: come home and fall asleep on me. So this guy's 450 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: just like super stressed exhausted, I'm not able to be 451 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: fully engagement with the relationship. By the way, this comes 452 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 1: from you dash just keep swimming twenty seven on the 453 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: r okay storytime subreddit. So however, when he did find 454 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: a new and much better job, he continued the same behavior. Example, 455 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the amount of drinking follows asleep on me. During this time, 456 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: he could have spent on me or plan dates instead 457 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: of me doing other planning. Because he now has the time, money, 458 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: and emotional capacity. He instead spent money on a bunch 459 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: of for himself. 460 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 2: Hey, party for me and I myself. 461 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: Party for one. I kept asking him to treat me 462 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: for once. We started going to bars as our main outing, 463 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: where we started off playing pool, and where he would 464 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: buy himself drinks in front of me and still not 465 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: buy me a meal or a drink, all while I'd 466 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: be paying for pool too. I kept trying to tell 467 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: him I didn't feel like a priority to take me 468 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: out for ones, that his past dick caused trust issues, 469 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 1: and I want us to get help. I requested that 470 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: he get individual therapy. I'm in individual therapy as well. Amazing, 471 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: we love therapy, we love good therapy. There's bad there 472 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: out there, and that we do couples therapy during couples therapy. Okay, 473 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: so he agreed it. 474 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 2: Wow, that's good, that's really good. 475 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: That's great. A lot of people would not. 476 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 477 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I discovered I can no longer continue like this. 478 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: I was stressed every night before sleeping, wondering if he 479 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: was okay, wondering if he was drinking too much, and 480 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: wondering if he was one day be coming out. I 481 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: was also hurt that I was the only one putting 482 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: in all the effort, where I planned all the dates 483 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: and paid for everything. I broke it off and we 484 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: didn't see each other for over a month. Wow, Okay, 485 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: so broke off and then we ended up running into 486 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: each other thirty five days after the breakup, when he 487 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: dropped some things at my house. We decided to spend 488 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: just the night together with the condition of absolutely no 489 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: drinking during our time together. Then the night turned into 490 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: a week, and then a week turned into two. However, 491 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: he had expressed a desire to get back at together 492 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: about five days in. I reciprocated because we both made 493 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: each other very happy during these two weeks, just doing 494 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: mundane things and being in what I consider a real partnership. 495 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 1: So she like got the relationship that she was wanting 496 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: all this time, and it like finally got it. He 497 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: said that he wanted to give up drinking because he 498 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: felt so good with me for the first time in 499 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 1: decades without substances altering his reality. He said he felt 500 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: a renewed desire to experience life from things that bring 501 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: him intrinsic joy, like sports, music and dancing. Oh, this 502 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: is wonderful. He wanted to continue feeling like this again 503 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: for a long time, at least how he could learn 504 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: how to take on moderation. We had the most wonderful 505 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: two weeks where every day felt almost magical. He mentioned 506 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: that getting back together was on his mind, and I 507 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: reciprocated that sentiment. We decided that since we were both 508 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,120 Speaker 1: thinking of getting together, with the promise that he wouldn't 509 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: be drinking for his own sake, we should make lists 510 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: for each other about all the things we need to 511 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: address if we were to try again to see if 512 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: we were compatible. If we were not compatible, we would 513 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: see if there was any room for accommodation. This seems 514 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: like they're being responsible, and like, what are the things 515 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I could block us from having a good partnership? 516 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 517 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 518 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: We set a date for negotiating. Negotiating on whether we'd 519 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: get back together planned after an individual therapy session with 520 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 1: my therapist, since he wanted to make sure I had 521 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: all the information I could possibly have, and we set 522 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 1: a date. 523 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: Wow, very proactive too. 524 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: He said he wanted to be with me, but would 525 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: see if we could actually be together depending on our combatibility. 526 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: And accommodation ability. Okay, now, okay, this is a sweet story. 527 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: Right now, I feel like we're about to get into 528 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: toxic territory. During this time, I was completely exclusive. I'm 529 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: a very monogamous person and can only hold feelings and 530 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: relationships with one person at a time. My ax is different. 531 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: He sees himself as a being. These past two weeks 532 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: have technically been a situationship since we never defined the 533 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: actual boundaries on exclusivity. While we were discussing getting back 534 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: together during these past two weeks, he told me he 535 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: slept with someone during this period, about ten days into 536 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: our situationship while we were talking about seeing if we 537 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: could get back together. He said he knew I'd be hurt, 538 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: but to what degree he didn't know, And yet he 539 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: did it anyways, because we were not committed to each 540 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: other and he would not change who he is being 541 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: his general everyday behaviors without being fully committed to me. First, 542 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: I would be prioritized sla shul accommodate my feelings if 543 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: we were not exclusively together. My logic was that if 544 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: we were together together by the end of this, why 545 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: would he want he want him hurting me to be 546 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: the starting point of our relationship. He said that, no, 547 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: this wouldn't be the starting point since we weren't exclusive 548 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: at this time and it wouldn't be behind us we 549 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: were on a break. 550 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: Okay, so how it just feels like lawyers debating like 551 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: a certain detail, like WHOA technically, but then also. 552 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the starting way. He's like, technically, the 553 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: starting point was the date. We said. 554 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: This feels like two all years debating a certain topic, 555 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 2: and this one's like trying to find a way to 556 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 2: get through this loophole because it's like the technicality thing. 557 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: But then this other lawyer's like, but your intentionality towards 558 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: this relationship said one thing, and your action said another. 559 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 2: I think he's in the wrong. 560 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 1: He said. He told me how to respect and that 561 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: technically he had no obligation to tell me it was 562 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: safe a spicy sleep, but just wanted to be honest 563 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: about it. He did tell her, yeah, he didn't have 564 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: to do that. 565 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 3: True. 566 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: He also told me that this is how the real 567 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: world works. I'm new to relationships. This is my first 568 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: serious relationship. While he said he's had six before, he 569 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: said that generally people of the world would have no 570 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: expectations and that he had done nothing wrong since we 571 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: never to find any boundaries or exclusivity. He also said 572 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: that this is my boundary to draw and that if 573 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm not able to get over this, then this then 574 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: we are incompatible, since he wouldn't mind the same thing 575 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: being done to him since we weren't exclusive. 576 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't like the getting over this wording for sure. 577 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,119 Speaker 1: It's like you're hurt and that's your problem, and especially 578 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: the context of like they're trying to transition into a relationship. 579 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: Such a good job making a comeback. He was making 580 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: a comeback. Also did say that the spicy sleep with 581 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: the woman was just spicy sleep and nothing more. 582 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 2: Oh that helps? 583 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: Are you being sarcastic? Yes, I mean, honestly, it kind 584 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: of in my eyes, it's better than that if it 585 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: was a romantic I. 586 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: Would not even touch on that subject. 587 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he's capable of truly desiring me and only 588 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: wanting to be with me, but also sleeping with other people, 589 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: which he would completely cut off if we were to 590 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: become exclusive. He said that if we were, if we 591 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: became fully exclusive, there'd be no other relationship with anyone else, 592 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: and that he would take the time to put in effort, 593 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: both organizationally and financial, And if you would like to 594 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: put an effort into us, you can join us live 595 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: on YouTube every week they at three ampst. Just tap 596 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: our profile. I'm a very anxious human being. I asked 597 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: for a lot of reassurance during this time, to which 598 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: you said, I can't give you one hundred percent to 599 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: you right now. So the whole point of this period 600 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: is just to compare list to see if we're compatible. 601 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: If you need that from me, then I think you 602 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: already have your answer that in that we're not compatible, 603 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: that we don't owe each other anything, that any effort 604 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: I've put into these last two weeks was all my 605 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: own choice, and that we were just seeing if we 606 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: could work it out in the long run, after which 607 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: he'll be in full effort. I'm so heartbroken and torn 608 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: about this. I see where he's coming from, but also 609 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: that same time, I would never have done the things 610 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, I don't know how to feel about this. 611 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Please one Like you guys have very different ideas around 612 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: like icy sleep, around exclusivity, around agreement of relationship, and 613 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: so that's like, if you're making the list, that's places 614 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: that you're incompatible. He also views relationships a very certain 615 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: way and feel like very strict like like takes that 616 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: as reality and kind of dismisses Op's version of relationships. 617 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: And so there, you know, there is a lot of incompatibility. 618 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: There's also like substance abuse, not like making him wrong 619 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: for that, and he's. 620 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: Coming on the comeback, but you have had to do 621 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 2: a lot of work with him with that part. Yeah, 622 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: And I feel like we're kind of forgetting that because 623 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: he owes Op a good relationship and he's done so 624 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: much work, and it's just it's hard to see who 625 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: do all this work and then make this mistake and 626 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: then not even own up to the mistake. 627 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're so right. It could have just been so 628 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: easy to be like, Yeah, while at the time I 629 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: thought it was right, I could totally see how crappy 630 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: that is for you. Your pain makes so much sense. 631 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 632 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 3: The girl who stole my fiance also stole my boyfriend. 633 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 4: That's a villain origin story right there. What that's your 634 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: That's a nemesis. 635 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: If I've ever heard one. Yeah, that is that's your rival. 636 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 3: Be ready with your popcorn and your iced coffee. Y'all 637 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 3: are going to be mad at me at some point 638 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 3: during this story. 639 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 4: Oh no, I don't like how you're calling this out. 640 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 4: You're calling yourself out already. 641 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 3: I twenty nine female, was engaged to my now ex fiance, 642 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 3: who we will call Asher twenty nine male in twenty twenty. 643 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 3: We were best friends up until we started dating in 644 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: our second year of high school. By the way, the 645 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: story comes from user recovering people Pleaser on the r 646 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: slash okay storytimes I've read it. So we dated for 647 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: only three days and I broke it off immediately as 648 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: I was too scared of being in a relationship while 649 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: trying to maintain my academic standings in school. For context, 650 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: where Asians and Asian parents are a bit more strict, 651 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: especially when it comes to school. We stopped talking for 652 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 3: a few months until we became best friends again after him, 653 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 3: I had been in a physically and mentally abusive relationship too. 654 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 3: To be exact, Asher and I eventually rekindled our romance 655 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: on my last year of college. All of my friends 656 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: were very happy for me, as they said, this has 657 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 3: been the best relationship decision I have done so far. Well, 658 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 3: they'rein for a surprise. Asher and I. I had a 659 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 3: smooth relationship for a year up until I had to 660 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: take my licensure exam. A day before traveling to the 661 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 3: exam center, I went over to his house and we 662 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 3: were just hanging out watching movies, and everything was fine 663 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: until his mom came over to us and asked him 664 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 3: if he had told me yet. 665 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: He said no. 666 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,959 Speaker 3: I was confused, but at the time Asher just brushed 667 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: it off. After an hour, his mom asked to talk 668 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: to me alone inside his room. I remember feeling so 669 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 3: scared and started overthinking like maybe I've. 670 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: Done something wrong. 671 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 3: She started off by asking if I knew of this 672 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 3: certain girl who I'll call Michelle from what I knew. 673 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 3: Michelle was an acquaintance of Asher's from his training club. 674 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: I told his mom, yes, I did know her. Her 675 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: next sentence almost made me lose my mind. She said 676 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: Michelle just gave birth and reached out to them because 677 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 3: she's claiming Asher got her pregnant. 678 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: Oh, oh, my lord, I was at a loss for words. 679 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 3: She said the baby was born with a medical condition 680 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 3: that puts his life at risk. Oh God, that's terrible, 681 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: his mom said. She wanted to let me know as 682 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 3: Asher didn't have the guts to tell me, but she 683 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: emphasized that Asher strongly denied being the father. She gave 684 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 3: us the chance to talk and to sum things up. 685 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: I believed him. The next day, I was already on 686 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: my way for my Life Insure exam, which is a 687 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 3: two day intensive exam, when I received a message just 688 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: as I was about to enter the exam room. It 689 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 3: was from Michelle. She was asking me to take pity 690 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 3: on her child and to convince Asher to pay for 691 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: child support since the child is currently fighting for his 692 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 3: life at the hospital. I didn't get the chance to 693 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: reply as I was already seated and the exam was 694 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 3: about to start. The exam is an eight to five 695 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: exam with only one lunch break aloud. I tried my 696 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 3: best to get it out of my head, as this 697 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: exam was to make or break the entire course of 698 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: my life. Yeah, God, what an unbelievable thing to get 699 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 3: right before one of the most important tests of your life. 700 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is wow. 701 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 4: Ohp She's like, this is my this is like my 702 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 4: make or break right here, and wow, you get this context. 703 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 3: I managed to keep my cool until the end of 704 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: the second day, and I talked to Asher immediately about 705 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: what Michelle told me. He said his parents already sent 706 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: some money to her out of pity for the child, 707 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 3: but not because he admits he's the father, which was 708 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 3: kind of suspicious, but whatever, it wasn't my money. I 709 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: then responded to Michelle saying how sorry I was about 710 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 3: her and her baby situation, and that I've tried talking 711 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: to Asher but he still denies it and I wouldn't 712 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 3: get involved any further because I'm just a girlfriend. I 713 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 3: told her i'd pray for her and her baby. She 714 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 3: still kept bothering me through messages, but I didn't know 715 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: what to say it to her at this point. The 716 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 3: sad thing was is the baby passed a few days 717 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 3: after that, which totally broke my heart and also breaks ours. 718 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 3: You never want that, you hate to see it every time. 719 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: Fast forward after the Michelle drama, I passed the exam, 720 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 3: amissed the stress of it all. Asher and I were 721 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 3: still together and he went back to college. He started 722 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 3: later than me because he was to video games. I 723 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: haven't ever heard that as a reason to start school late, 724 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: but I'm not gonna judge. Our whole relationship was a 725 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 3: long distance one after that, where we only got to 726 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: talk to each other every weekend and see each other 727 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 3: on Christmas and New Year's because he's in military school. 728 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 3: And even after all the time constraints, he still managed 729 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 3: to cheat on me multiple times, too many to count 730 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 3: on my fingers. And the funny thing is I stayed yes, 731 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: I stayed why, well, I what there might be an 732 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: explanation here. 733 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: I don't. 734 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm probably a walking red flag myself because of this. 735 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 3: After three years into the relationship, I decided to move 736 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: abroad for a job opportunity. I didn't think it would 737 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 3: be much of a problem for us, as we were 738 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: already in a long distance relationship for quite a while. 739 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: Boy was I wrong about that. 740 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: A month after moving abroad, I had this feeling that 741 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 3: I get whenever he's cheating on me. Mind you, for 742 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 3: all the times he's cheated on me prior, I would 743 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: always catch him in the act, like I probably would 744 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 3: make a good FBI agent. At this point, I couldn't 745 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 3: shake the feeling that I was being cheated on. I 746 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: shared my thought to the wife of his best friend, 747 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 3: let's call her Eve, who I became friends with after 748 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 3: we got together. She told me to look for more 749 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: signs until one morning, as I was getting ready to 750 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 3: go to work, Eve messaged me, and before I opened 751 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 3: her message, I already had the feeling it wouldn't be 752 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: good news. She said she knew who he's cheating with, 753 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 3: and she sends me a photo of them in a 754 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 3: mirror selfie to a place where we once went on vacation. 755 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 3: I was at a loss for words on who the 756 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: girl was. She is the star of this story. Let's 757 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 3: call her Megan. Meghan was the mistress of Asher's best friend. 758 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: What is going on? 759 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: Yes, Eve and I are flabbergasted. We had no idea 760 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: that our partners were so close that they managed to 761 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: screw one girl and make them their mistress. Asher's best 762 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: friend had her first and a year after that, Asher 763 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: I was furious and did something petty. As the photo 764 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 3: that Eve showed me was posted on Facebook, I commented 765 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 3: and tagged Asher's mom and said, this is what he 766 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: was doing when he asked for your permission to go 767 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 3: to his senior in military. Immediately after that, Asher started 768 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: calling me non stock and kept gaslighting me that I 769 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 3: was crazy. I broke up with him after. 770 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: That, Yes, finally, thank god. 771 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, his whole family was consoling me, but nothing eases 772 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 3: the pain. What's worse, I learned about the affair a 773 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 3: few weeks before taking another licensure exam for the country 774 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 3: I moved to my God. I still fortunately passed the 775 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 3: exam and stopped communicating with Asher way before I took it. 776 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: Fast forward to seven months after that, Asher and I 777 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 3: started talking again. No, he was apologizing until eventually we 778 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 3: got bitter. Now I am beyond stupid at this point, 779 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: which I'm sorry, Op. 780 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,760 Speaker 1: I agree. Oh if he did call herself out earlier 781 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: in the story in your. 782 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: Own words, Op, that was stupid of you to do. 783 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 3: Our relationship was okay for another year, but I could 784 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 3: tell the damage was already there. He then posed to 785 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: me online in a very public Facebook post where he 786 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: tagged me in our parents with a photo of a 787 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 3: ring and mushy messages asking me to marry him as 788 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 3: we were still in different countries, and I stupidly said yes. 789 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: Why anyone watching this? 790 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: Anyone watching this, please use this as a blueprint as 791 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 3: what to never ever, ever ever do in a relationship. 792 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: If someone proposes to you over Facebook, first of all, 793 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 3: you block them, because that is never acceptable way to 794 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 3: propose to somebody. 795 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't care how far away you are. That's your 796 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: first who ever ever proposed to somebody, your first red 797 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: fly You're like, Ah, that's the briggest refly. 798 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 3: It should have been like, I'm not gonna accept this 799 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: at the very least, no, propose to me a better way. 800 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 3: I'm not doing this. 801 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: But the consistent cheating. 802 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, being cheated on literally the entire time you're in 803 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: a relationship with somebody. 804 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: Don't marry that person. You have the evidence. 805 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: A few more months after I accepted his proposal, I 806 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 3: was already nearing the end of my contract in my 807 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: workplace and plan to go home to my home country 808 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: to have our wedding. We started wedding planning and with 809 00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: the help of my besties, who I knew were secret 810 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 3: questioning my sanity because of my decision to say yes 811 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 3: to his proposal. He was in another country due to 812 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: the nature of his job, and said we'd meet in 813 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: our home country in a few months, but his contract 814 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 3: ends earlier than mine. Everything was great up until he 815 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 3: arrived home. He started messaging less and I started getting 816 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 3: the ugly feeling again. Whenever I brought up the icky feeling, 817 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 3: he would guesslight me saying he's only been back for 818 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: a few days and had just started hanging out with 819 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 3: the dudes, and I was just over thinking. Well, my 820 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 3: female instincts never failed me. I caught him cheating again 821 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 3: and guess what it. 822 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,280 Speaker 1: Was with Megan? 823 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: Ah ah like mad Megan. At that point, I was 824 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 3: already so fed up and so tired. I called off 825 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 3: the engagement and blocked him on all social medias he 826 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 3: could even try to contact me on, thank god, even email. 827 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: I started going to therapy and hanging out with my 828 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: friends and tried to make myself better until I reached 829 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 3: the end of my contract. A few weeks before my 830 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 3: flight back home, I met this guy from our hometown 831 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: let's call him Mark, and we started talking to each other. 832 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 3: He was nice and started making plans of what we'd 833 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 3: do once I arrived home. Shortly after I finished my 834 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 3: contract and flew back home, Mark and I were still 835 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 3: talking and we were very much interested with each other. 836 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 3: I didn't get to see him until ten days after 837 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 3: my arrival, though, as it was COVID time and I 838 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: had to undergo mandatory quarantine. Mark was a nice guy. 839 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 3: He treated me far differently from how Asher did. We 840 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,840 Speaker 3: started dating, and I was happy and stress free, or 841 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: so I thought. 842 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 4: I really hope, I really hope, I really hope. 843 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 3: When I arrived at our hometown, I met with Mark 844 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 3: and we started hanging out with my friends and we 845 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 3: were all happy. One day, Mark started being shady about 846 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: his whereabouts, though I asked him if he wanted to 847 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 3: hang out, but he said he was sick and would 848 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 3: rather stay home. I started to have the ugly feels again, 849 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 3: but I brushed it off, thinking it was just the 850 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 3: trauma that my past relationship gave me. And then me 851 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 3: and my friend had plans to go out. I didn't 852 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 3: have my own car yet, so I used a public transport. 853 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 3: When they tell you God has his favorites, I must 854 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: be one of them, because as I stepped in lo 855 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: and behold, it was Megan, And boy was I not 856 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: surprised when I heard she told the driver to drop 857 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 3: her off where in front of Mark's house. She tried 858 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 3: to whisper it, but girl, I have good hearing, So 859 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 3: after I heard that, I told her, Oh, you're gonna 860 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: see Mark. Well, tell him to feel better soon. By 861 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: the way, I would feel better soon if you joined us. 862 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 3: Every weekday at three pm PST when we go live 863 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 3: on YouTube, Facebook, Twitch, TikTok. Just tap our profile and 864 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 3: you're in. Mark and I broke up after that, thank god. 865 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: He was still trying to make amends and tried to 866 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: make stupid excuses, but I wasn't having it anymore. I 867 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 3: told him to f off. Next thing I heard was 868 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 3: Megan and her friends were spreading rumors that I was 869 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,759 Speaker 3: the one who stole her man talking about Asher, which 870 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 3: is why they broke up, and that stealing Mark was 871 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 3: her getting back at me. I was so speechless at 872 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 3: that point that I didn't even give the rumor an 873 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 3: ounce of my energy. I was a bit confident brushing 874 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 3: off the rumors because our whole hometown knew how long 875 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: Asher and I have been together, so nobody would believe 876 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,399 Speaker 3: all the crap that she's been spewing. Asher reached out 877 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 3: to me saying he and Megan broke up because she 878 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,360 Speaker 3: was having an affair with another guy, Shocker, who was 879 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 3: apparently my boyfriend. I did not reply. That is the 880 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 3: end of that story. Ope, it is good that you 881 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 3: are cutting off Asher and not reply, just don't from hometown. 882 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: I'm glad that No Moore broke up with Mark, the 883 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,919 Speaker 1: fact that it's happened with three men. 884 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,320 Speaker 3: She's clearly got it out for you. But I also 885 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: I like that you're not giving it any energy. Do 886 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 3: not give any of your energy no more. Megan's being 887 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 3: a demon. 888 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: Megan is a like. 889 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: So you either got to exercise it or get out 890 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: of the house. Right If you live in a haunted house, 891 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 3: key on. 892 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 4: You stay and you fight the ghosts, you get out 893 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 4: of that house. 894 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 3: Leave, dude, leave, you gotta get out anyway, that's the 895 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:03,280 Speaker 3: end of the story. My male friend cheated with another friend. 896 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 3: Now I'm revealing the truth to his ex. 897 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 1: You got no male friends. 898 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna keep it as brief as possible, and 899 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 3: hope I'm conveying myself clearly enough. I will put my 900 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 3: fear of being misunderstood to the side. By the way, 901 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 3: This comes from user aggravating Heat nine thirty eight on 902 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 3: the r slash okay storytime subreddit. So first some context 903 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 3: about me and my friend, then the main situation, and 904 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 3: then the dilemma that I require your help with, Oh, 905 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: great and powerful Reddit, I thirty four female and my 906 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 3: friend s forty two male have been friends for twelve years. 907 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: We're gonna call him Steve. We studied together, sometimes work together, 908 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 3: went on camping trips and weekends away, and generally are 909 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 3: good friends, have good times, and are quite enmeshed and 910 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 3: involved in each other's lives. We definitely have had our 911 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 3: TIFFs along the way with feelings being involved, and often 912 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,279 Speaker 3: I just want to talk through a situation where he 913 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: prefers to sweep it under the rug the past is 914 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 3: the past type of thing. For the most part, he's 915 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: a fun, loving and caring person, full of positive and 916 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: energy and jokes. 917 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: He is sharp and witty. 918 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 3: Everybody loves him and his charm, but there are times 919 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 3: when he's just kind of an a hole. Often to 920 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 3: me sure he thinks his a holary is justified, because 921 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: if it often comes out when I have said something 922 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 3: to someone else that he's deemed private or not necessary 923 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 3: to share with people, not that he's ever communicated that beforehand. 924 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 3: Over the years, I've learned how he prefers things, and 925 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: I usually want to keep the peace, so just kind 926 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 3: of fell in line. Personally, I don't see the need 927 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: to hide or keep information from people, and not that 928 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 3: I would want to tell everyone every bit about my life, 929 00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: but I do understand and see the point that sometimes 930 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: being a bit dishonest can have benefits or it makes 931 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,840 Speaker 3: things less complicated, small white lies that don't hurt anyone, 932 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 3: But it's not generally how I prefer to operate anyway. 933 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: Context done. Time for the situation. 934 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 3: Steve started dating a girl after a long term relationship 935 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 3: ended abruptly that really crushed him. He wasn't ready for 936 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 3: anything serious, but the girl was super nice and sweet 937 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 3: and made him feel good. Let's call her. We're gonna 938 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 3: call her Rebecca. 939 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 4: Ah. 940 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 3: She was much younger than him and he was her 941 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 3: first great love. COVID happened and they lived together for 942 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 3: a few months, so that catapulted their relationship quickly. She 943 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 3: was deeply in love with him and started picturing their 944 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 3: life together, although she was a bit more conservative aka 945 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: and Ospasislipi before marriage and thus wanted to get married soon, 946 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 3: which she told him upfront. He, on the other hand, 947 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: since I met him, said he's not the marrying type, 948 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 3: but he really cared for Rebecca, so the relationship continued. 949 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 3: I remember telling him early on, if he knows they 950 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 3: are not on the same trajectory or that he feels 951 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 3: she wants to make things too serious too soon, that 952 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 3: they should talk and perhaps take a break or even 953 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: break up before anyone gets more hurt down the line. 954 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 3: But he just said sure, sure, and carried on. In 955 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 3: the time that they were dating, he and another longtime 956 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 3: friend w thirty three female who we will. 957 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,840 Speaker 1: Call Whitney Wimberly No do Whitney. 958 00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 3: No do Whitney rekindled their friendship. They have had had 959 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 3: some on again, off again type of thing going for years. 960 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 3: At times they didn't speak for months and that at 961 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 3: other times, he has been her support and cuddle buddy 962 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 3: when she and her boyfriend were going through rocky patches. 963 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,719 Speaker 1: I don't like that. 964 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 3: I don't think you're supposed to have a male cuddle 965 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: buddy cold time. 966 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is cuddle buddy? Yeah? Where is that job description? Yeah? 967 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,879 Speaker 3: Okiden immediately says you can see where this is heading, right, 968 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: which we can. 969 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 970 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, So Steve and Whitney began hanging out often. Rebecca 971 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 3: had a job and tourism, which meant that most weekends 972 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 3: she had to work. So there were several weekends when Steve, 973 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 3: Whitney and myself would hang out. Although I was not 974 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,919 Speaker 3: allowed to tell Rebecca, although there were more weekends where 975 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 3: it was just the two of them. Several times I 976 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 3: suggested that perhaps he and Rebecca should break up because 977 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 3: clearly there are other things going on, and that women 978 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 3: have a good intuition to pick up on things aka 979 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 3: spidy senses. At this time, I was told to stay 980 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 3: out of his business, he's handling it and that there 981 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,800 Speaker 3: is nothing going on, so there's nothing that the spidy 982 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,479 Speaker 3: senses need to pick up. I also found out later 983 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 3: that I was his cover up slash alibi on several 984 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 3: occasions aka Rebecca would ask Steve what he did this weekend, 985 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,560 Speaker 3: and he would say he was hanging out with me. Now, 986 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, in an ideal world, nobody would 987 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 3: lie or would have to be sneaky. But unfortunately, this 988 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,719 Speaker 3: isn't an ideal world, and we aren't perfect individuals, and 989 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 3: sometimes crap just happens. I get that, and I'm always 990 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,839 Speaker 3: willing to help out a friend, but then I do 991 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 3: kind of expect that friend to keep me in the 992 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 3: loop a bit and also to set things right somewhere 993 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 3: down the line. 994 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:44,320 Speaker 1: For example, one of the more colorful. 995 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,239 Speaker 3: Situations, part of the main situation was I walked in 996 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 3: on Steve and Whitney going at it on a weekend away. 997 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 3: And that was after the morning when I raised concerns 998 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: again that he looked me straight in the eyes and 999 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,960 Speaker 3: said that I know him and he would never cross 1000 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 3: that line, so there's nothing to worry about. 1001 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, Steve's a lie. That's that's just a little white lie. 1002 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 3: Steve is a big fat lie. I believed him because 1003 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 3: before that point I have always thought of him as 1004 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 3: someone with a high integrity and a very strong moral compass, 1005 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 3: although he did find joy in blurring some lines every 1006 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 3: now and then, even with me. Anyway, after the walk 1007 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 3: in incident, he didn't want to talk about it or 1008 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 3: clear the air, and I thought surely he would now 1009 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 3: break up with Rebecca in the following week. Ope, you 1010 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: little angel baby, that is so sweet of you to assume. 1011 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: Nope. They dated for another six months after that, shocking. 1012 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: But then, Ope, why didn't you tell Rebecca. 1013 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 3: Because a little white line never heard anybody? Six months crazy? 1014 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 3: Six months is a little half a year crazy, dude. Yeah, 1015 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 3: come on, it's code. You tell the girlfriend. At that point, 1016 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 3: you tell the girlfriend. I'm sorry, it's not even code anymore. 1017 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 3: It's just logistics, Why am I saying sorry? I'm not sorry? 1018 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,400 Speaker 3: Tell your friend that she being geated on. My friendship 1019 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 3: with him took a severe knock in these months. More 1020 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,360 Speaker 3: often than not he was a wiener head to me, 1021 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 3: except when he needed something Simultaneously. He had me sworn 1022 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,760 Speaker 3: to secrecy and that it was none of my business 1023 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 3: how his relationship with Rebecca was going. 1024 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 1: Is that how it works? 1025 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: Now? You swear secrecy and then that's your life Like that, 1026 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 4: it's over. Like if I tell Rebecca I'm done. 1027 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: No, I don't understand that. 1028 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 3: I had started making peace with the fact that this 1029 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 3: is how our friendship would end, and I would be 1030 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 3: very sad. But this whole situation gave me sleepless nights 1031 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,480 Speaker 3: due to anxiety, dishonesty, and secrecy. It made it so 1032 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 3: that I couldn't trust him and actually felt unsafe in 1033 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: his presence, which is the one thing that I truly 1034 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 3: love in my male friendships is that sense of safety. 1035 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 3: And it was gone. Eventually Steve and Rebecca broke up. 1036 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 3: She phoned me in tears, asking all the right questions, 1037 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 3: and I, with my warped sense of loyalty to him, 1038 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 3: just said that I can't tell her anything and that 1039 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 3: I'm really sorry she was so broken hearted. Why why 1040 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 3: they're already why? I mean, at least the only thing 1041 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 3: I can respect out of this is that when Ope 1042 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 3: says she's gonna keep a secret, I guess she means it. 1043 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,280 Speaker 3: It seems like Ope, you can trust her with a secret. 1044 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 1: At some level. You gotta let the truth. 1045 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 3: The truth shall set you free. 1046 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1047 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 3: I felt terrible. This poor girl was deeply in love 1048 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 3: with him and he. 1049 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 4: Was reckless with her heart Like Steve sucks, But op 1050 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 4: you are literally just helping Steve get away with it. 1051 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the. 1052 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 1: Loyal But I feel so bad for Rebecca. 1053 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 3: Fast forward a year or two. My friendship with Steve 1054 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 3: is in a good place after several more TIFFs. Each 1055 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 3: of us also lost a parent in the past year, 1056 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 3: so we were a great support to each other. We 1057 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: still have not really spoken about what had happened, and 1058 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 3: the few times I tried to get some clarity, he 1059 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 3: bit my head off and shut the conversation down. 1060 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:48,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing, Opie? 1061 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 4: What does he add to your life other than stress 1062 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 4: and shame and loyalty? 1063 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,240 Speaker 1: That's not good loyalty. 1064 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 3: He adds nothing. He's taking your honesty. 1065 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: You can't get away with this. He's literally taking your 1066 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: your morals from you. Somehow. 1067 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 3: We have staid friends, and he has expressed numerous times 1068 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: how much I mean to him, and we generally always 1069 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 3: have good times together as long as I never. 1070 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: Bring up anything from the past. 1071 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,480 Speaker 3: He and Whitney started dating, and they are kind of 1072 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 3: made for each other because they have their own special 1073 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 3: kind of narcissism between them, obsessed with their reputations and aesthetics. 1074 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,839 Speaker 3: But Steve seems happy, and that is what I want 1075 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 3: from my friends. They're getting married in six months. I'm 1076 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 3: sure that won't end in flames. 1077 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 1: This relationship was built on lies. 1078 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am a groomsman a grooms lady if you will. 1079 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 3: By the way, if you want, you can join us 1080 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 3: live every weekday when we go live on YouTube, Facebook, 1081 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 3: TikTok and Twitch at three PMPST. Just tap our profile. 1082 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,439 Speaker 3: If you're watching this in the future, we might even 1083 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 3: be live right now. So it's okay to cut bad 1084 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:50,799 Speaker 3: people out of here. 1085 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,359 Speaker 1: I want to know who's a bigger ale here. 1086 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 3: I think op is clearly not getting away with like, oh, p, 1087 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 3: you are partially responsible? 1088 00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:58,600 Speaker 1: You are? 1089 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,279 Speaker 4: I think Steve is the ba the biggest a hole, 1090 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,480 Speaker 4: But Opie, you are you are literally supporting that, and 1091 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,120 Speaker 4: you're making him into a bigger a hole. It's making me, 1092 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,240 Speaker 4: making us lose our piece of minds right now, because 1093 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 4: like it just there's a missing puzzle piece here, and 1094 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 4: I just can't seem to figure out what that missing 1095 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,280 Speaker 4: puzzle piece is of why op is so loyal to Steve. 1096 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,840 Speaker 4: I get it, your friends, I get that, but you 1097 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,280 Speaker 4: don't deserve like this is not a friendship. It seems 1098 00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 4: like he's above you exactly and like he's taking full 1099 00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 4: control of you. 1100 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 1: I don't get that. 1101 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,879 Speaker 3: It's not a friendship, because what did you just say? 1102 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: You were like every time we hang out, we have 1103 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,960 Speaker 3: a great time as long as I abide by all 1104 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 3: of his. 1105 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 1: Rules and whatever he says. And if I say something else, 1106 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm out of line and he'll make me feel bad. 1107 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:40,919 Speaker 1: He'll can't be real with him. 1108 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,680 Speaker 3: Recently, Rebecca contacted me because she wanted to return a 1109 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 3: book that she borrowed from me. She also rightfully said 1110 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 3: that I was in the wrong and that I should 1111 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 3: have told her because her spidy senses were tingling like crazy. 1112 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:55,440 Speaker 3: She felt like she was the last to find out 1113 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 3: and she feels humiliated, but she understood it came from 1114 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 3: a place of loyalty. I apologized for my part in 1115 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 3: it and said, I think we should go for a 1116 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 3: glass of wine or five to have a chat. So 1117 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 3: here's my dilemma. Would I be the A hole if 1118 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 3: I told Rebecca everything that happened during that time that 1119 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 3: they were dating. She said she also had some stories 1120 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 3: to tell, for example, that she once came to eat 1121 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 3: at the place that she worked. He admitted to her 1122 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,120 Speaker 3: that he and Whitney were dating, but that Whitney didn't 1123 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 3: compare to her, and then he tried to kiss her. 1124 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,680 Speaker 3: What the frick anyway? So would I be the A 1125 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 3: hole if I played the open cards with his ex girlfriend? 1126 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,359 Speaker 3: W with that jeopardize my and Steve's friendship. So bat news, Op, 1127 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 3: you're already the a hole like I said, Sorry, buddy, 1128 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 3: like I said, you're already an a hole in this situation. 1129 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 3: I don't think you would be an a hole by 1130 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 3: telling Rebecca the truth of her relationship, because you should. 1131 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: Have told Rebecca the truth that the very get go. 1132 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 3: But it's blowing my mind that Rebecca apparently already knew 1133 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 3: about Whitney at some point here and again continue to 1134 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 3: stay with Steve. What is going on with Steve here? 1135 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,400 Speaker 4: Is my thing with this. I would put myself in 1136 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 4: their shoes. So in case like OP, if I were OP, 1137 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 4: I would have put myself in Rebecca shoes. I would 1138 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 4: have loved to known if I was being cheated on 1139 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 4: during my relationship, and especially like after we broke up, 1140 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 4: would I would have wanted everything. 1141 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not a The Weekend type situation. I 1142 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 3: do want to know if you're playing me. That's the 1143 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 3: end of that story. 1144 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: Let us own the comments. I think both Op and 1145 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: Steve and Whitney all a holes. 1146 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: Is my comments. Who's the biggest ale here? Let us 1147 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 4: know in the comments I want to see. That's the 1148 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 4: name of that story. Guys, let us own the comments. 1149 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 4: We'll see you in the next one. 1150 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 3: I caught my husband using a spicy dating app. 1151 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 4: I got them arrested from apps to handcuffs true love story. 1152 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 3: I all using a throwaway account because I don't usually 1153 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 3: use Reddit. I've literally just. 1154 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,320 Speaker 1: Found this out, so apologies if this is a bit scattered. 1155 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 3: I thirty four male have been with my husband Richard 1156 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: forty one male for just over ten years married for 1157 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 3: a year. We've been on holiday in Spain tore Moos 1158 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 3: for a month. As most probably know, tore Moinos has 1159 00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 3: a big gay scene. It's twenty five percent of the population. 1160 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:02,719 Speaker 3: I did not know that. 1161 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: In some context, we were thinking of moving here, more. 1162 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,400 Speaker 3: Difficult because of Brexit. We're British. By the way, this 1163 00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 3: comes from user aggravating Act eighty three ninety seven on 1164 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:15,000 Speaker 3: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So Richard loves going 1165 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 3: to the bars in the evening. I though, have very 1166 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,239 Speaker 3: bad social anxiety, so I don't enjoy it so much. 1167 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 3: Most nights he goes out without me, which was fine 1168 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 3: because I had one hundred percent trust in him. Tonight, 1169 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,719 Speaker 3: after dinner, he brought me back to the apartment we've 1170 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 3: rented and he was going to go out like usual, 1171 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 3: but he dozed off in the bedroom. I heard him snoring, 1172 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 3: so went to check on him. His phone was next 1173 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 3: to him with grinder open, with a bunch of messages 1174 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 3: to some Spanish guy. The spicy picks intimate words of 1175 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 3: what would be done. I'm trying to keep this PG, 1176 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 3: but you get the basic idea. Hopefully. Richard was saying 1177 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 3: how long he was there for, and I think they 1178 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 3: might have been arranging to meet up. I'm not exactly sure, though, 1179 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 3: because as soon as I saw the Grinder messages, my 1180 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 3: head was spinning and I felt sick and betrayed. It 1181 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 3: was such a flip of emotions, going from ah, my 1182 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,279 Speaker 3: lovely man has fallen asleep to extreme distress. I woke 1183 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 3: him up immediately. He claims he was just bored and 1184 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,560 Speaker 3: needed some validation and wasn't actually going to do anything. 1185 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 3: Richard has had some confidence issues since turning forty, even 1186 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 3: though I regularly tell him how gorgeous he is. I 1187 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,239 Speaker 3: don't know what to think. It's late at night now, 1188 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 3: so I don't want to get into a full blown 1189 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 3: discussion about it. I don't know if I'm being paranoid, 1190 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 3: but even in England, every time I even went near 1191 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,399 Speaker 3: his phone, he would freak out. I just thought maybe 1192 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 3: he was worried about me dropping it. I have dyspraxia, 1193 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 3: so I'm pretty clumsy. 1194 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: Richard would also. 1195 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 3: Regularly forget to wear his wedding ring. He does have exema, 1196 00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 3: so he takes it off when he's using ointment. I'm 1197 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 3: just all over the place right now, not even going 1198 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 3: to bother trying to sleep. I'm here venting because I 1199 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 3: don't know what else to do right now. Here is 1200 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 3: the update. Hell, lovely ladies and gents. Thanks for the 1201 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,319 Speaker 3: advice on my original post. It's been a crazy couple 1202 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:00,760 Speaker 3: of days. 1203 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 1: But I have an update. 1204 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 3: Sorry it's a bit long, but a lot has happened. 1205 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,880 Speaker 3: In the morning, after getting zero sleep, I asked Richard 1206 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 3: to show me all the messages he had sent. He 1207 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 3: said he deleted grinder, but I got him to re 1208 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 3: download it. Richard was sitting across the table from me, 1209 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 3: and suspiciously it was taking it a while to download. Well, 1210 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 3: I'm not stupid, I could tell he was deleting stuff. 1211 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 3: Little did he know I had taken screenshots. Sure Enough, 1212 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 3: when he handed me the phone, all of his responses 1213 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 3: had miraculously vanished. Only the stuff the Spanish guy had 1214 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 3: sent was still there. This idiot tried to gaslight me 1215 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 3: into thinking he hadn't responded. Well, I showed him the evidence. 1216 00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 3: He said he didn't remember it because he was wasted. 1217 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 3: He was full of apologies, saying he would never actually 1218 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 3: do anything, blah blah blah. When that didn't work, he 1219 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,480 Speaker 3: said I was overreacting and needed to get over it. 1220 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 3: Then he got angry and nasty, saying because of my anxiety, 1221 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 3: I would be nothing without him. 1222 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 1: Finally, he stormed off and. 1223 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,240 Speaker 3: Left the apartment. Weirdly, after all of that, I didn't 1224 00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 3: even feel sad, just empty, and shortly after her petty Oh. 1225 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:06,479 Speaker 3: I sent the screenshots to his mother so she knew 1226 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 3: the type of band she had raised. I blurred out 1227 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 3: the graphic parts of the pictures. She didn't need to 1228 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:11,960 Speaker 3: see that. 1229 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: Wow, oh piece, get on that part for you, Good 1230 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:15,000 Speaker 1: for you. 1231 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,600 Speaker 3: Then I noticed that the Spanish guy, who we will 1232 00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,799 Speaker 3: call Senor P had used his full name. After some 1233 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 3: social searches, I found out he had a boyfriend. Turns 1234 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 3: out I actually sort of knew the boyfriend. We'll call 1235 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 3: him A for Alejandro. 1236 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 1: Quick context. 1237 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 3: Me and Richard were thinking about buying and running a 1238 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 3: bar when we moved to Spain. We've had several trips 1239 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 3: to Torreminos prior to the month's day, so we were 1240 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: asking people who own bars for advice and getting to 1241 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,719 Speaker 3: know them. Alejandro has owned a very successful bar for 1242 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,759 Speaker 3: five years. He's British and speaks fluent Spanish. As he's 1243 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: our generation compared to most of the other bar owners. 1244 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 3: Alejandro is thirty five, and we got to know him 1245 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,600 Speaker 3: very well. He's a lovely guy and very forthcoming with advice. Anyway, 1246 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 3: back to the tea, I decided to let Alejandro know 1247 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 3: exactly what Senor Pa had been up to. 1248 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: The bar works as a cafe. 1249 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 3: During the day, and Alejandro usually is around, so I 1250 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 3: headed down there. I'm pretty proud of myself. I haven't 1251 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 3: really gone anywhere here on my own due to my 1252 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 3: social anxiety, but my determination overcame it. Alejandro was there, 1253 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 3: so I asked to have a quiet word with him 1254 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 3: and showed him the screenshots. He was livid. He'd only 1255 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 3: been with Senor P for around six months, but he 1256 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 3: was living with him. He knew Sennor P was at 1257 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 3: his home that day, so he went to confront him. 1258 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 3: After I told him how Richard had stormed out, he 1259 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 3: suspected he might have been there as well. 1260 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:47,000 Speaker 4: Oh wow, oh boy, extremely dramatic. Right now, I'm excited. 1261 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 4: But also, let's see how petty I want to see 1262 00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:50,919 Speaker 4: how petty opiking really gets. 1263 00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 3: Let's see let's see where this is. 1264 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 1: I feel like this that's the tip of the iceberg. 1265 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 1: He offered me to come with. 1266 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 3: I was nervous because I'm really bad at confrontation, but 1267 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 3: Alejandro can. He has plenty of staff at the bar, 1268 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 3: so him leaving it wasn't a problem. We hopped in 1269 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 3: his car and drove down to the house. Alejandro has 1270 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 3: a three bedroom home and it's really nice. Anyway, you 1271 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 3: can probably guess what we found, Richard in bed with 1272 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,440 Speaker 3: Senor Pe. 1273 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh wow, my act, Oh my god. 1274 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 3: Now Alejandro is a six foot four muscular guy, so 1275 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 3: he had no trouble dragging them both out of the house, 1276 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 3: stark nake and throwing them out. Richard tried to fight 1277 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 3: back and ended up with a bloody nose. When Richard 1278 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 3: saw me, he said, since I assumed he had cheated, 1279 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 3: he might well have gone done it now since our 1280 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 3: relationship was over. It's again so pathetic, dude, Richard, suck 1281 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:48,280 Speaker 3: you suck pathetic like Rachel from Friends. I said, well, 1282 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 3: you had a heck of a time at the funeral. 1283 00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,640 Speaker 3: I'm not usually that quick. I'm a pretty quiet guy, 1284 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 3: but I was fuming. Alejandro called the cops, saying there 1285 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 3: were some crazy naked guys outside, and Richard and Signor 1286 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 3: p got arrested. 1287 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 1: Nice. Nice. 1288 00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 3: I am only here for another week, so I was 1289 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 3: thinking of getting a cheap hotel room, but Alejandro offered 1290 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 3: for me to stay with him. Like I said, there's 1291 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,600 Speaker 3: three bedrooms, so plenty of room. And Alejandro says that 1292 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 3: he needs to get rid of the defiled bed, so 1293 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 3: I'll help him out with that. Alejandro is going to 1294 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: help me get my stuff from the apartment. Hopefully he 1295 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 3: can get it done before Richard's out and about not 1296 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 3: sure about how long he'll be held for. I might 1297 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,000 Speaker 3: update as things progress. There's a lot going on in 1298 00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 3: my head right now, so hopefully people won't mind if 1299 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 3: I don't do it for a while. And there is 1300 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 3: an edit. Okay, some of you seem to think that 1301 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 3: because of my anxiety, I couldn't have done any of this. 1302 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: Thanks. 1303 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 3: You sound like Richard. Yeah what that's not well? 1304 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1305 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 3: Why are people saying that? 1306 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,000 Speaker 2: All right? 1307 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:51,040 Speaker 3: Thanks it it's called overcoming your obstacles. I have social 1308 00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 3: anxiety when it comes to larger groups of people, but 1309 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 3: when it's one on one or people I know, it's 1310 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 3: not as bad. Like I said, I know Alejandro pretty well. Also, 1311 00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 3: that's the with anger and adrenaline in the moment. It helps. 1312 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 3: If you think I was completely calm and collected while 1313 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,800 Speaker 3: all this was happening, you couldn't be more wrong. 1314 01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: I was breaking it. 1315 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 3: I pretty much let Alejandro handle everything. And here's a 1316 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 3: second update. Hello everyone, I have a small update. I'm 1317 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,040 Speaker 3: still in Spain. I was meant to fly back Tuesday, 1318 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 3: but I've extended my stay. The idea of flying back 1319 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 3: on my own is terrifying at the moment. I'm self employed, 1320 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 3: so it's slightly more flexible until I need to go back. 1321 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: I assume Richard has gone back. 1322 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, though, since I've blocked his number, I've 1323 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 3: let family and friends know the whole situation. Alejandro helped 1324 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 3: me get my stuff while Richard was detained, and I 1325 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 3: had a friend get my stuff from the house in England. 1326 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 3: I just left my wedding ring behind, just. 1327 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,280 Speaker 4: Like how Richard leaves it behind with the exema and 1328 01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 4: go ahead and leave that behind you a too. Alejandro 1329 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 4: is like a very understanding guy and understands OP situation. 1330 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Good friend, Alejandro. 1331 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:58,960 Speaker 3: A'll support Alejandro and OP. Today Alejandro confessed that he 1332 01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,880 Speaker 3: has feelings for me, which was a surprise because honestly, 1333 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 3: I just thought he was being kind. Richard used to 1334 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,320 Speaker 3: say he could tell Alejandro liked me, but I just 1335 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,720 Speaker 3: thought Richard was being silly. There's definitely a traction there, 1336 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 3: but I'm not in the headspace to start anything new, 1337 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 3: especially after being in a ten year relationship. It would 1338 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:19,680 Speaker 3: have been eleven this Saturday. 1339 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: No wow. 1340 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,439 Speaker 3: But we'll always support you guys rushing into our live 1341 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 3: streams whenever we go live every weekday at three PMPST 1342 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,560 Speaker 3: on Facebook, on YouTube, on Twitch, on TikTok. Just tap 1343 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,400 Speaker 3: our profile and you're in. 1344 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 4: Richard's out, Opie's gone. It's just not the situation with 1345 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 4: Opie and Aljandro. Where does that go? As long as 1346 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 4: Alejandro is understanding, great, you're about to hit your eleven mark, 1347 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 4: your eleven year anniversary. 1348 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,040 Speaker 1: That's rough. 1349 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,480 Speaker 3: Alejandro is not putting any pressure on me. He just 1350 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 3: wanted to say how he feels, so that I know 1351 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 3: emotional maturity. 1352 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Richard, Alejandro. 1353 01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 3: Yes, good Alejandro. He's also just had a relationship end, 1354 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 3: but he wasn't in love with Senior P so it's 1355 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 3: a bit easier for him. I'm just very curffluffled in 1356 01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,680 Speaker 3: my head right now. I let him know that the 1357 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 3: feeling is mutual, but that I'm not in the right 1358 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 3: place at the moment. He's very understanding of everything and 1359 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 3: very lovely about it. He's even offered to fly back 1360 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,040 Speaker 3: with me so I don't have to go on my own. 1361 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,800 Speaker 3: He was planning to see family in England anyway, since 1362 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 3: it's nearing Festive time. So yeah, just a small update 1363 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 3: to let you all know how things are progressing. I 1364 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 3: might update once I'm back in England and feeling less overwhelmed. 1365 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 3: Thanks for the nice comments people have been leaving. I 1366 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 3: very much appreciate it. And that is the end of 1367 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,040 Speaker 3: that story. I really hope there is an update at 1368 01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 3: some point that they have a very successful, thriving bar 1369 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,680 Speaker 3: in Toreminos. 1370 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,680 Speaker 1: And just have a good time. Yeah, and that's what 1371 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: we want. That's into that story, guys,