Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to movie Crush. This is another Friday
Speaker 1: Interview edition. And today I had the great great pleasure
Speaker 1: of sitting down for Waynewright Family Part two. Uh, if
Speaker 1: you remember correctly, I interviewed and had a conversation with
Speaker 1: Loud and Waynewright. The third about Tokyo Story and his
Speaker 1: daughter Lucy came in today and Lucy and I, Uh,
Speaker 1: if you follow Stuff you Should Know, then you know
Speaker 1: Lucy played Jerry on the Stuff you Should Know TV show.
Speaker 1: Quite a task to play the unknown Jerry. And Lucy's great.
Speaker 1: She's just one of my dear friends who I don't
Speaker 1: see often enough, um but every time we see each
Speaker 1: other is just wonderful. She's such a just sweet, lovely, wonderful, endearing,
Speaker 1: kind human soul, one of the greats walking around on planet.
Speaker 1: Over everybody, and not only that everybody, but she is
Speaker 1: a great singer and songwriter. Um as she likes to joke,
Speaker 1: and Loud and likes to joke. It's the family business
Speaker 1: when you are a Waynewright, and Lucy is actually a
Speaker 1: Waynewright Roach because her mom, Susy Roach, is a singer
Speaker 1: and had a group with her sisters, A three part
Speaker 1: harmony group called the Roaches UM in the eighties that
Speaker 1: was really really great and sort of under undersung in
Speaker 1: my opinion, tight tight, great three part harmonies. It just
Speaker 1: comes from a really talented family of Rufus and Martha
Speaker 1: and Louden and Susy and the whole gang. And Lucy
Speaker 1: is really good. She has a new album out called
Speaker 1: Little Beast and Uh, as you will learn in this episode, Lucy,
Speaker 1: although she's very sweet and kind person, has a a
Speaker 1: an undercurrent of sadness that just sort of courses through
Speaker 1: her body and she pours that out in her music
Speaker 1: and writes some some really great sad, lovely songs and
Speaker 1: just says the voice of an angel and so talented.
Speaker 1: So check out Little Beast for sure, and go see
Speaker 1: Lucy in a town near you. Um, because she's always
Speaker 1: on the road, everybody with her her great dog maybe
Speaker 1: who we talk about and uh, here we go. She
Speaker 1: picked uh Parenthood, which is I know, a favorite of
Speaker 1: many many people. The great great Ron Howard Um comedy
Speaker 1: drama Y I guess you would say, from nine, starring
Speaker 1: uh Steve Martin and Jason Robards and uh Diane West
Speaker 1: and just a whole host Canna Reeves and Martha Plimpton
Speaker 1: and just a young uh Joaquin Phoenix is just loaded.
Speaker 1: Tom holtse good lord, what a cast in this movie.
Speaker 1: And it was a lot of fun going back and
Speaker 1: rewatching that as an adult and as a parent because
Speaker 1: it's been many years. That kind of took on new
Speaker 1: meaning for me. So we had a great talk about
Speaker 1: parenthood and about growing up in as a Waynewright and
Speaker 1: Roach and what that's all about. And so here we
Speaker 1: go with Lucy Waynewright, Roach on parenthood. What's new? Not much?
Speaker 1: I nothing. I was just in New York really yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I came home on Wednesday. You were,
Speaker 1: I think that's uh. And I interviewed Peter McNerney. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, he's the best. Yeah. We did Hedwig
Speaker 1: in The Angry Inch was his coach, so I got
Speaker 1: to see that again. I love him. I've seen I
Speaker 1: I've seen Julie. I rewrote that script which you should read.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'd like for you to read it.
Speaker 1: And I saw Julie. I haven't seen anybody else. No
Speaker 1: Caitlin appearances, although I met someone who was her, but
Speaker 1: I've never seen her since. She like came to my
Speaker 1: house for the Super Bowl drop Macaron Couch her. How's
Speaker 1: the relation her? I think husband's sister. Maybe so her
Speaker 1: sister in law listens to this show because I was
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like Facebook interaction stuff for the show,
Speaker 1: and uh, I saw a bits a guy and of
Speaker 1: course you know how many of those are. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, are you or she may have even
Speaker 1: told me first or whatever. Yeah, I don't know what
Speaker 1: she's up to. Or maybe she's married. I think she's
Speaker 1: married to Caitlin's husband's brother, so that's another kind of
Speaker 1: in law. Yeah, I have never seen her again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your on Facebook. Yeah, that's the only way. And
Speaker 1: then nothing, nothing really. I hang get with Chad still. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's great. He's like one of my bros. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're both really busy, so it's not a lot. But
Speaker 1: I saw him the other day. I saw him. Oh.
Speaker 1: We do this thing called porch Fest every year in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. It's a music there's like two hundred porches
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood with two hundred bands and then they're
Speaker 1: just slotted at different hours all day long and people
Speaker 1: just walk around and listen to my music. So his
Speaker 1: daughter is sixteen now, Grace, and she played her very
Speaker 1: first gig with her. She's the lead singer and they
Speaker 1: did like Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac and that's so cool.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since his like, well, he's had
Speaker 1: a third kid. Yeah. Um, she's a little older than Ruby,
Speaker 1: I think, so like close to four, but we don't.
Speaker 1: They moved from Decatur, so I don't see them as much,
Speaker 1: which really stinks because I love his whole family and
Speaker 1: it would be fun to all hang out like that.
Speaker 1: So great. But I did go by and see Grace saying,
Speaker 1: you know it was you would have loved it. That's
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. It's like all those kind of first gig
Speaker 1: jitters and it's like the total high school band, which
Speaker 1: was kind of fun. That's so cool to think that
Speaker 1: a high schooler is doing that with their time makes
Speaker 1: me feel good. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't get my first bantil.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, but you're saying your whole life, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would not in that I was. I was.
Speaker 1: I mostly played with dolls, really, yeah, what was your
Speaker 1: favorite doll? Oh? All of them. I used to cut
Speaker 1: them open and do surgeries on them. And then stitch
Speaker 1: them back up, which, um, a friend of mine once
Speaker 1: encountered them in like a box years later and was alarmed,
Speaker 1: right because they were stitched up. Horror? Yes, uh so
Speaker 1: what like I had your dad in here, which was
Speaker 1: Did you listen to that? By any chance? I listened
Speaker 1: to it? Yeah, it was kind of cool, and I
Speaker 1: thought very interest thing that he picked, Like, well, you
Speaker 1: picked parenthood, which is like the sweetest like family story ever.
Speaker 1: He picked Tokyo story, which was like about this father
Speaker 1: basically telling his children like, you've all disappointed me. Well,
Speaker 1: there's some overlap there. I feel like parenthood and that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that sounds about right. Well, we'll get to
Speaker 1: parenthood a little bit. I was just kind of thought
Speaker 1: that was funny story, like the most like a somber
Speaker 1: downer movie of all time. Have you seen it? No?
Speaker 1: You should watch it sometimes when you want to be
Speaker 1: thoroughly sad, maybe write a song about it. All Right,
Speaker 1: how's the family though? Good? They're good. They're all good.
Speaker 1: My sister has two kids that are big now eight
Speaker 1: and four, and my brother's kid is seven. He is
Speaker 1: a son, a daughter, oh, a daughter. Okay, but everybody's fine.
Speaker 1: Ish you know, like kind of the same. Yeah, how's
Speaker 1: your mom? She's good. We are about to do some
Speaker 1: shows together with my dad, the three of Us Cool
Speaker 1: next month, and those are always huh interesting. We're gearing
Speaker 1: up for those. She's really into rehearsing, so we're currently
Speaker 1: in hardcore rehearsing mode. Has she always been into rehearsing. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's a big rehearser I'm a little bit of a
Speaker 1: like wing it. Yeah, let's just you know, but she's
Speaker 1: not like that. So when I work with her, we
Speaker 1: we really lock in. Yeah, and it pays off because
Speaker 1: you know, we are very together when we play Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the and the Roaches just had those tight, tight
Speaker 1: harmonies Like that was kind of the thing I think
Speaker 1: they started the rehearsing lockdown. You had to be really
Speaker 1: rehearsed to do three parts of anything. Yeah. Sure, we're
Speaker 1: doing a lot of rehearsing. And does you do do
Speaker 1: all three sing together at any point? Yeah? Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: So well, when we do a show, the three of Us,
Speaker 1: my mom and I do the first maybe forty five minutes,
Speaker 1: then he comes out and does forty five minutes, and
Speaker 1: then we do together, and then you come back out
Speaker 1: and do some more. Yeah, and I always say that, Um, well,
Speaker 1: I don't always say this, but I say it in
Speaker 1: my head. I say it in my heart that I
Speaker 1: used to be an elementary school teacher and when you'd
Speaker 1: have the kids for the first maybe six weeks of school,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, okay, getting to know the kids,
Speaker 1: and then a parent teacher conferences come, the parents come
Speaker 1: in and you'll be like, oh, now I understand about
Speaker 1: the children. And so the shows are kind of like
Speaker 1: that for me because I'm there and both my parents
Speaker 1: are there, so the audience can see what happened. That's
Speaker 1: super interesting in a weird form of therapy. Probably maybe
Speaker 1: it's a good way to spend time with your family
Speaker 1: because you're getting paid. Man, that would make it all easier.
Speaker 1: We went on a cruise ship altogether as a family,
Speaker 1: and and that I feel like is the way to
Speaker 1: take a cruise is to be paid. And that was
Speaker 1: a waynewright family singing. It's a cruise called Kayamo, which
Speaker 1: is a folk music cruise mostly, and actually it has
Speaker 1: a subtitle it's called Kyamo a Journey Through Song. So
Speaker 1: I'm glad at least you know how corny that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we took a journey through song together and Emma Lou
Speaker 1: Harris was there, Richard Thompson and uh, Brandy Carlyle. A
Speaker 1: lot of people go and then they're like three thousand
Speaker 1: audience members on the boat, right, rubbin elbows, which you
Speaker 1: had already done with the I talked your dad about
Speaker 1: the train thing. Yeah, the train thing. This is like
Speaker 1: a step up because you can't you really can't get
Speaker 1: away because you're in the middle of ocean. So we
Speaker 1: raised the stakes. And also my sister came, which she
Speaker 1: hadn't been able to come to Alaska, so she came
Speaker 1: on the boat. What about Um, have you ever been
Speaker 1: on a cruise only then? Yeah, I did one, a
Speaker 1: work cruise to I did the Maximun cruise, which was
Speaker 1: comedians and performers, and I did a tribute thing with Hodgeman. Well,
Speaker 1: I had a lot of fun because the people we're awesome,
Speaker 1: like Eugene Merman and Nick Thune and Wyatt Sinac and
Speaker 1: Hodgeman and John Roderick and like a lot of my
Speaker 1: pals were there and we just had a blast. But
Speaker 1: I can't say that I would enjoy a cruise other
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah, I I found myself wondering without the music,
Speaker 1: what would you be doing? That's true. I mean those
Speaker 1: pools gross me out because there's like a thousand people
Speaker 1: trying to get in them. Yeah, most of the stuff
Speaker 1: is grosses me out. The food. The way I described
Speaker 1: it was because Emily was like, what's it like because
Speaker 1: we're not cruisers, and I said, it's like someone took
Speaker 1: a a tall building that was a shopping mall and
Speaker 1: tipped it on its side and shoved it out to see.
Speaker 1: They should really put that in the ad. I was
Speaker 1: not into it, though, I imagine, like in Alaska, cruise
Speaker 1: might be a little more fun. There was something cool
Speaker 1: about being out in the open ocean like that. I
Speaker 1: had one moment at night like that where a bunch
Speaker 1: of us went up to the top deck and I
Speaker 1: had never been out to see so I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, And that that's
Speaker 1: the thing about my job that I like that you
Speaker 1: probably encounter two is like I probably would never ever
Speaker 1: ever have taken a cruise in my whole life, but
Speaker 1: then I ended up doing it for work, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad because it was. Now I know so much about it.
Speaker 1: I have so many feelings about it, and the same
Speaker 1: thing with other just or even visiting places multiple times.
Speaker 1: If I just had maybe like a two week vacation
Speaker 1: to choose a place to go, I probably wouldn't go
Speaker 1: back again and again to like Princeton, Illinois, for example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you just do a show there? I have done
Speaker 1: a couple, but it's not really the kind of place
Speaker 1: you would vacation normally. But I like that you get
Speaker 1: to go because it's like cool, you see the world
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, we've done some shows. Like it's I'm
Speaker 1: always pushing to do shows in places we haven't been yet,
Speaker 1: Like we always go back to Seattle, in Portland and
Speaker 1: Boston and d C. And sort of the cities that
Speaker 1: are really good for us. But we've been I've been
Speaker 1: trying to knock off some of the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: flyover states as they say. So we went to Lawrence, Kansas.
Speaker 1: It was great. It's so good that town. It really
Speaker 1: reminded me of being in Athens, and like St. Louis
Speaker 1: was cool. And have you done Iowa City? No, we
Speaker 1: haven't been to Iowa. Iowa City, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: We just went to Salt Lake City and they were great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like they were. It was one of the best crowds
Speaker 1: we've ever had as far as enthusiasm goes. And they
Speaker 1: weren't even drinking. It was a dry video. They must
Speaker 1: have really liked you. Then, uh. And then we did
Speaker 1: Salt Lake City and Phoenix. We do like two shows
Speaker 1: at a time. Not hard. It's not like grueling touring. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good to get off the regular big city, but
Speaker 1: you drive around. Yeah. I spend most of my time
Speaker 1: in the car. Yeah, she's so good. Okay. I thought
Speaker 1: she was here and I was like, man, if she
Speaker 1: didn't bring that dog, No, I I flew here, so
Speaker 1: she didn't. She used to fly when I worked with
Speaker 1: you guys, and she was a teeny tiny puppy. I
Speaker 1: flew back and forth times. But now she's too big
Speaker 1: and you haven't gotten the designation is the comfort animal
Speaker 1: or whatever? Well I may have, but I feel I
Speaker 1: will you in order to Okay, Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: how does that work? Okay, In order to get an
Speaker 1: emotional service animal in the past, you have to take
Speaker 1: a psychological test to see if you're well enough, which
Speaker 1: I've passed passed in the which way I was unwell
Speaker 1: enough for sure, and then they send you a psychiatrist
Speaker 1: letter saying you need your dog. So I did that,
Speaker 1: but I feel too guilty to use it because it
Speaker 1: just feels I mean, I I have used it a
Speaker 1: couple of times, like if I'm driving late at night
Speaker 1: and I can't find a hotel that allows dogs, but
Speaker 1: we need a place to stay. I've done it with that.
Speaker 1: But some people I know have flown with their dogs
Speaker 1: and stuff, and I would love to do that, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like if anyone questioned me, I would
Speaker 1: just burst into tears and be like, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be taking my dog on the plane, which may
Speaker 1: indicate to them that I need the dog. You're good,
Speaker 1: good dog? Yeah, I mean people, you definitely see people
Speaker 1: that are clearly sort of taking advantage of that designation.
Speaker 1: Um or maybe not. I don't want to judge. I
Speaker 1: don't either, but they certainly look like I just wanted
Speaker 1: to bring my dog, yeah, which I totally get. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love touring with Maybe. She's so good. Yeah, she's
Speaker 1: a very very I got so lucky because she can
Speaker 1: be left in a hotel room without ruining anything, she
Speaker 1: can be left backstage anywhere. She just she's so exceedingly
Speaker 1: lazy that she just like lies down and does nothing
Speaker 1: during anything. She's perfect for going on the road and
Speaker 1: I could have so easily ended up with a dog
Speaker 1: who I love. Yeah, she was kind of made to
Speaker 1: be her little buddy. Yeah, she's so great. Um. For
Speaker 1: those of you listening, Lucy has a dog that she
Speaker 1: got while she was working on our TV show and
Speaker 1: I think one of our Jordans costroom, the wardrobe person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she found this dog like in the parking lot, in
Speaker 1: the parking lot of I think. Is there something in
Speaker 1: called the Big Chicken. It's an Atlanta thing, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a it's a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Marietta that
Speaker 1: has this giant it's an old school KFC that has
Speaker 1: like a thirty foot chicken and it's a bit known
Speaker 1: as the Big Chicken. That's where maybe it was found, Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the parking lot. But chi, yeah, I gotta go
Speaker 1: back there and visit, like and make a little pilgrimage
Speaker 1: to the chicken. You'd be disappointed. She doesn't remember. I
Speaker 1: don't think she's so good. She was teeny tiny then,
Speaker 1: she was like three months old and she was like
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds now she's fifty pounds. I remember there was
Speaker 1: so much consternation about whether or not you should keep
Speaker 1: this dog, and you really had a hard time, and
Speaker 1: I was just right next to you, going to keep
Speaker 1: the dog. Yeah, you should keep the dog, because I
Speaker 1: just wanted her to come to set every day. Totally. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was so good. She was so teeny tiny and
Speaker 1: she's still so good and she Um. Yeah. I lived
Speaker 1: in an apartment that didn't allow dogs at the time,
Speaker 1: so I for the first few weeks I had to
Speaker 1: bring her in and out of the apartment in a bag,
Speaker 1: and so she learned that the bag was like the
Speaker 1: portal to getting to pee, So if she had to pee,
Speaker 1: she would go and put her body halfway in the bag,
Speaker 1: like I need to go down stairs. And then I moved,
Speaker 1: so now she's allowed. Where do you live now? You're
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn Stah in Clinton Hill, Clinton Hill? Yeah? Nice? Um, well,
Speaker 1: tell me about growing up a waynewright? Well? Um, what
Speaker 1: was that like? It was? It was pretty good? Nothing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was well, first of all, I grew up mostly
Speaker 1: with my mom by myself, and so I was really
Speaker 1: in the seat of the roach family a lot with
Speaker 1: my aunts and my mom. They were touring a lot,
Speaker 1: and I was touring with them a lot, and so
Speaker 1: they were kind of my early early childhood. Um, main
Speaker 1: people that I was with most of the time. And
Speaker 1: then my dad lived in England when I was really little,
Speaker 1: but then he came back to the States, and but
Speaker 1: I would say as adults, oh, we definitely knew each
Speaker 1: other well as when I was a kid, But as
Speaker 1: adults we've spent a lot more time together than we
Speaker 1: did when I was a kid. So it wasn't like
Speaker 1: when you were a little kid, it was you and
Speaker 1: mom and dad and Martha and Rufus all like, you know,
Speaker 1: every day hanging out. No, it was Martha and Rufus
Speaker 1: were up in Canada with their mom. We have have
Speaker 1: a good setup in the family. It's like everybody has
Speaker 1: their own mom almost like my younger sister has her
Speaker 1: own mom, and then I have my own mom, and
Speaker 1: then Martha and Rufus they had to share. And your
Speaker 1: dad's just the fulkm. Yeah, and it's cool because like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's cool to get your own mom. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I've got my own mom and so um, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were up in Canada. With their mom. And I
Speaker 1: was with my mom in New York and we all
Speaker 1: the kids were together for holidays sometimes and summers and
Speaker 1: with my dad and but my dad and my mom
Speaker 1: were very close always throughout my life. So that's good.
Speaker 1: Would hang out a lot. Yeah, that's uh, that's good.
Speaker 1: I wonder what that's like. Yeah, they I was never
Speaker 1: bummed about my parents not being together, I think because
Speaker 1: it like seemed like, well, this seems good, you know,
Speaker 1: like I was hanging out with my mom, I like that,
Speaker 1: and then my dad came around and we'd all go
Speaker 1: out to dinner and it was fine and no one
Speaker 1: was stressed out, and yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: you grew up in New York though, right, Yeah in
Speaker 1: Greenwich Village. Wow, the best place in the world. It
Speaker 1: is pretty great, although it's kind of like a fancy
Speaker 1: mall right now, Well, like what area like Bleaker Street
Speaker 1: used to be pretty interesting, you know, guitar stores and
Speaker 1: and now it's like all Mark Jacobs, you know, like
Speaker 1: stores that are very very expensive. But John's Pizza is
Speaker 1: still there and that's what really counts because that's where
Speaker 1: I used to go for my birthday parties. And if
Speaker 1: you are ever in New York. You should go to
Speaker 1: John's Pizza on Bleaker Street. It's so good. There's some
Speaker 1: place in the village, and I think it was near
Speaker 1: the school that you taught at. Didn't you teach over there?
Speaker 1: Or maybe you went through the school I went to
Speaker 1: a couple of schools. That was the best egg rolls
Speaker 1: I've ever had. Was a little Chinese place kind of
Speaker 1: over near there. I think I wonder where it was,
Speaker 1: and I will go down there, because you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: for me, an egg roll is got to be a
Speaker 1: very specific kind of egg roll, like the big, huge,
Speaker 1: dimply Onind's Okay, um, not the more spring roll types
Speaker 1: right right right, like the little cheap egg rolls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the look on your face says, not those no, no, no,
Speaker 1: like the big, big daddy simple egg rolls. Well, you'll
Speaker 1: have to take me there next time you come to
Speaker 1: it down I will. I feel like you're never there
Speaker 1: when I'm there. I know I'm never there is part
Speaker 1: of the problem. Um, And where does maybe stay when
Speaker 1: you're gone? She stays with um my mom sometimes, or
Speaker 1: we have sort of a patchwork collection of people who
Speaker 1: take care of her, or she comes with me, so
Speaker 1: she's very she has many different New York City apartments.
Speaker 1: She's very malleable though she always has been. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've got this house, that house, this person, that person.
Speaker 1: That's good. It's got many mothers. Whereas we all had
Speaker 1: our own mother, she's got so many mothers. She's just
Speaker 1: like a cat with all these mothers, um not that
Speaker 1: have taken on her full care. She has. Well, my
Speaker 1: stepdad Stewart, did you ever meet to her? I think so.
Speaker 1: He and my mom lived together, and she loves him
Speaker 1: and so maybe stays with them. I feel like your
Speaker 1: mom's old dog has passed, right, she did? Yeah, sorry
Speaker 1: to hear that. Friend. She for example, could not have
Speaker 1: gone on the road ever. Yeah, she was every time
Speaker 1: you get her in the car, she just stress breathe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe something seems to always be sort of chilling with
Speaker 1: that one ear up. She's chilling, which means also she
Speaker 1: won't do anything. When you take her to the park,
Speaker 1: she sits down, Yeah, and looks at the other dogs
Speaker 1: like why are I know? You must really like to
Speaker 1: come here. Does she get along with other dogs? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a little bit um on the doggie spectrum, perhaps
Speaker 1: like she she doesn't fight with other dogs, but she's
Speaker 1: kind of like what dogs, you know, if they come
Speaker 1: around her and they're like, let's play, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand what what you could possibly mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: our our dog Lucy, who passed away a long time ago,
Speaker 1: pre pre knowing you, which is to say that we
Speaker 1: did not name our dog after you. Cool. Cool, but
Speaker 1: I would Lucy. Emily used to say that Lucy's not
Speaker 1: a dog person because she was sort of the same way.
Speaker 1: She like eventually would fight when dogs would corner her,
Speaker 1: but she generally just wasn't like I didn't know how
Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, when the dogs come to smell her butt,
Speaker 1: she sits down. She's like, no, thanks, that's enough, thank you.
Speaker 1: Well that might be the proper reaction. Fair enough. It's her.
Speaker 1: It's her right, isn't it. Um How did movies and
Speaker 1: like stuff like that play a part in your early life?
Speaker 1: Like your dad was acting, and did you ever go
Speaker 1: to set? Did you think that was cool or was
Speaker 1: it just normal? He wasn't um in. He really started
Speaker 1: to be in more movies when I was like in
Speaker 1: high school and college, and I did go to set
Speaker 1: when he was he was on that TV show Undeclared,
Speaker 1: and I went to that set and that was really cool.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I've been to a set,
Speaker 1: and then the next time was probably when we did
Speaker 1: our show, which was so fun too. But yeah, So
Speaker 1: he and my mom was in a movie when I
Speaker 1: was really little. I actually thought about choosing that movie
Speaker 1: crossing to Lancy. Your mom was in no way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she plays Irving Irving and maybe he like she's trying
Speaker 1: to get set up with the pickleman on the Laurie's side,
Speaker 1: and Amy Irving tries to pawn off the date on
Speaker 1: her friend. And that's my mom. Really. I believe her
Speaker 1: character's name is Marilyn's kind of fun and so I
Speaker 1: remember going to the movie theater to see my mom
Speaker 1: in that movie, and that was weird because you were
Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, I was like six or seven, so
Speaker 1: I was like, this is confusing. But then my dad
Speaker 1: was in more stuff when I was older, and that's
Speaker 1: just been really fun. You know. He I love that
Speaker 1: because he loves to do that. Yeah, he seemed like
Speaker 1: he likes it, and so it's just and he's funny
Speaker 1: and it's fun to see him in things. But it
Speaker 1: is odd to see people you know in movies, don't
Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, it's hard to a little bit from that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean I don't know a ton of actor actors,
Speaker 1: just a handful here and there. Yeah, but it is
Speaker 1: always a little weird. Yeah. And I was really into
Speaker 1: going to the video store when I was a kid
Speaker 1: and in the summer, getting to go to the video
Speaker 1: store and Bleaker Street videos. Yeah, and then but I
Speaker 1: would get the same video over and over and over
Speaker 1: like incessantly. And and Parenthood is one of those videos
Speaker 1: that I watched over and over and over and over
Speaker 1: as a little kid. And there were other ones too,
Speaker 1: like really stellar choices, like Big Business with Lily Tomlin
Speaker 1: and and Bette Midler, where they are two sets of
Speaker 1: twins are switched at birth and they get one Lily
Speaker 1: Tomlin and one Bette Midler. Yeah, and then they meet.
Speaker 1: They are so different, you know. I love Lately tom
Speaker 1: And now I'm surprised you didn't see that. And Bette Midler. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't watched it since I was a kid,
Speaker 1: but I'd be curious to see how it holds up.
Speaker 1: That's kind of like this movie. I hadn't watched it
Speaker 1: in a long time. Yeah, did you watch it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For this? Oh good, But there are lines from Parenthood
Speaker 1: that I like here in my head constantly because I
Speaker 1: watched it so much. Well, let's go ahead and talk
Speaker 1: about Parenthood something. I was surprised that it's because I
Speaker 1: graduated high school that year. I'm older than you, as
Speaker 1: you know, and I just don't think I remembered it
Speaker 1: being that old. I thought it was in the mid
Speaker 1: nineties or something. Yeah, it was. I was pretty little
Speaker 1: when I got into this movie and U which is
Speaker 1: very funny kind of yeah, sweet, right, I was thinking
Speaker 1: watching it like this. I don't know whether this has
Speaker 1: shaped part of who I am or if it says
Speaker 1: something about who I am that I liked it so much.
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah. Second, Yeah, like Emily watched remember
Speaker 1: the show thirty something, Oh my gosh, I love Yeah.
Speaker 1: She and her friend would like obsess over that in
Speaker 1: high school. Yeah, and it's just so funny. I think.
Speaker 1: I think, especially with young uh, with girls and young women,
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a play adult or fantasized
Speaker 1: about being older. Because like every like woman I talked
Speaker 1: to when they were like middle school aged, watch things
Speaker 1: like thirty something and he's sort of grown up TV
Speaker 1: shows and movies. Yeah, thirty something. I was a little
Speaker 1: younger when that, when that was on and my mom
Speaker 1: would let me watch that. And then I had this
Speaker 1: kid named Rebecca Oyama who I didn't She was a
Speaker 1: kid in my class, and um, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: she listens to this podcast, but she once came over
Speaker 1: for a play date and I remember that I made
Speaker 1: her play thirty something. Really yeah, like we're going to
Speaker 1: play thirty something. I remember that she was maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit not totally on board, but we did it
Speaker 1: and just acted out the characters. Yeah. I mean I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, now you're the dad and also the
Speaker 1: sister and also we've just got some really bad news
Speaker 1: from you know, like bus film. Yeah. So I loved
Speaker 1: thirty something, but yeah, Parenthood I think is sort of
Speaker 1: in the same It's not a kid's movie. No. In fact,
Speaker 1: I thought of it. I watched it so much as
Speaker 1: a kid that I remember when my younger sister was small,
Speaker 1: my dad and her mom were asking for ideas of
Speaker 1: the movies that they could all watch together, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Parenthood, you should totally watch Parenthood, and they
Speaker 1: called the next day and my dad was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was not appropriate. We had to turn that off. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess there's a few things there are,
Speaker 1: but I think a lot I missed a lot of them.
Speaker 1: It's pretty sanitized. But yeah, I imagine you didn't understand,
Speaker 1: like maybe because it wasn't so explicit with like the
Speaker 1: and your buddy Martha Primpton's in it. I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It's so cool to watch her again and that because
Speaker 1: I I didn't know her then, but I've come to
Speaker 1: be good friends with her, so so you guys got
Speaker 1: to be friends later. Yeah, way later. Yeah, just like
Speaker 1: maybe ten or eleven years ago, And so it's fun
Speaker 1: to go back and see her in that movie because
Speaker 1: she's so young. Yeah, did she know that you love Parenthood?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, I will. And little Joaquin Phoenix, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which was crazy. I just love all the people in it.
Speaker 1: They're so good and and I think when I was
Speaker 1: a kid, one of the highlights of it was that
Speaker 1: it ends with a lot of babies and into babies,
Speaker 1: So anything with babies was like, yes, cool, good. And
Speaker 1: then I also think it's so much like the things
Speaker 1: that I like the best funny and sad and like dark,
Speaker 1: like the the sadness of regular life, which I'm pretty into.
Speaker 1: Yeah me too, Yeah, but you sure are. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really am. I know. Yeah. And it kind of didn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at all when you pick this, because I
Speaker 1: was really curious because any anytime it's somebody who's like
Speaker 1: a really good friend of mine, Mike, I wonder what
Speaker 1: they're going to pick. It felt a little. It feels
Speaker 1: a little like like a very exposed thing to pick
Speaker 1: a movie, because it's like when someone asks about music
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh god, I want to say something
Speaker 1: that encompasses my whole self and shows you that I'm
Speaker 1: a total idiot. But I just went with my gut.
Speaker 1: I was like, I love that movie. I want to
Speaker 1: watch it again. So no, that's what the show is
Speaker 1: about too. Like most of the picks have been like
Speaker 1: die Hard or you know, Back to the Future. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's not some high mine your dad Tokyo story. It
Speaker 1: was probably about his art houses We've gotten you when
Speaker 1: you're trying to get serious bring him in for But
Speaker 1: I think that was legit, your dad's favorite movie. He
Speaker 1: wasn't like, well, let me be impressive. No, no, which
Speaker 1: is interesting because the sadness in that movie really like
Speaker 1: he was really into that too, So I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's a little bit and your mom is seems like
Speaker 1: I might be wrong, but when I've been around her,
Speaker 1: she seems like a really kind of happy type person.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she she can go over some sadness,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that she wallows in it in
Speaker 1: the same way as I do. But yeah, it's funny
Speaker 1: because my dad's work, a lot of his songs, and
Speaker 1: some of his most amazing songs are about familial relationships
Speaker 1: and families and stuff. And I don't know if you
Speaker 1: ever saw a parenthood and it's certainly not his kind
Speaker 1: of thing, but they do feel like it does it
Speaker 1: does touch on some of the same things that he's
Speaker 1: trying to say in his work, just the the difficulty
Speaker 1: of your family and how and how much love there
Speaker 1: is there, and how much pain there is there, and
Speaker 1: how ridiculous everybody is. Yeah, and I thought that, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I love this movie, and I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: it in a long time, and they really did a
Speaker 1: great job of weaving together so many different storylines and
Speaker 1: and it never came across like you know, they dealt
Speaker 1: with like younger kids having sex and the youngest like
Speaker 1: little Joaquin Phoenix having porn, and and interracial relationships and
Speaker 1: growing old with someone and cheating and leaving someone, and
Speaker 1: the Tom Holtz character disappointing someone, and then the Jason Robards.
Speaker 1: There were so many different character types, but it never
Speaker 1: felt like like, oh, you know, we're just putting this
Speaker 1: in there because we had we don't have this kind
Speaker 1: of character totally as it felt believable. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: in the kind of genre that it is so not
Speaker 1: like total realism, but just like but like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: could see how these characters are a family and that's
Speaker 1: on life, like it is real, Like you might have
Speaker 1: one kid that is has some emotional issues and is
Speaker 1: trying to work things out and another kid who's ramming
Speaker 1: his head into the wall constantly, and their cousin might
Speaker 1: be a little future minsum member. Like none of it
Speaker 1: felt false totally. And that part where the little kid
Speaker 1: is banging his head of against the wall is one
Speaker 1: of the moments in the movie that I used to
Speaker 1: reference love and I remember telling my mom like when
Speaker 1: I was a little little kid, like it's so funny.
Speaker 1: And then he's banging his hand on the wall, and
Speaker 1: then and then the other kid says, looks at him
Speaker 1: and says, and I'm the one in therapy. And I
Speaker 1: remember my mom saying to me, why is it that
Speaker 1: you think that's so funny? Like she was like trying
Speaker 1: to find out what was wrong with me. I loved it.
Speaker 1: And I love the grandmother's character and the moment when
Speaker 1: she talks about her ups and downs. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I love I love all of them. Well, And it
Speaker 1: was a very sweet line when she talks about she
Speaker 1: prefers the roller coaster to the merry go round but
Speaker 1: and it was could have been like a surrupy, sweet
Speaker 1: movie moment. But then right afterwards Steve Martin kind of
Speaker 1: makes fun of it, and that really kind of takes
Speaker 1: the piss out of it, I think totally, and like
Speaker 1: the perfect way. If Grandma is so smart, why is
Speaker 1: she sitting in the neighbor's car? Favorite And the line
Speaker 1: with Kevin at the end when he said, and I'm
Speaker 1: the one in therapy. It's a cute little line, but
Speaker 1: what that means is that like it's showing him fully
Speaker 1: coming around to sort of accepting and even making a
Speaker 1: little joke that he's in therapy, which because you want
Speaker 1: I mean, poor little Kevin, I know, And he loses
Speaker 1: a retainer. That's one of the worst. That scene is
Speaker 1: so hard, harrowing, where he that like, what are they
Speaker 1: at Chucky Cheese or something like that, and he loses
Speaker 1: his retainer and he flips out. It's like he's really
Speaker 1: good when he's like, it's so like stressful, yeah, and
Speaker 1: like and he's causing a scene and then the parents
Speaker 1: are like Steve Martin's trying to stop the scene, and
Speaker 1: it's just so real. Like I think everyone, even if
Speaker 1: you don't have kids, you've been a kid and been
Speaker 1: in families that like you've been in the situations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so sad. The kid was so great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so great. And even the kid in the very beginning
Speaker 1: who plays young Steve Martin talking to the usher at
Speaker 1: the baseball game, he's great. Yeah, They're all really good.
Speaker 1: I feel like it shows it says a lot about relationships,
Speaker 1: like how much room there is for total dysfunction in
Speaker 1: the in the kind of affection of it. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: And of course the Steve Martin's dad's character, man, he's
Speaker 1: not very nice. No, but it was that was sort
Speaker 1: of like necessary, you know, because those were a lot
Speaker 1: of the dads or granddad's and Jason Robards is just mean. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was always such a big fan of his. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so sad when he died. Um. And then the you know,
Speaker 1: Tom Holtz is so good as the Black Sheep who
Speaker 1: sort of one of my favorite parts of that he
Speaker 1: actually is when the limo flies around the corner of
Speaker 1: the Black Caddie or whatever and dumps him out and
Speaker 1: he just gets up and he's like, oh, yeah, just
Speaker 1: some friends just dropped me off. Jason Robarts like friends
Speaker 1: usually stopped, slow down, even stopped. Yeah, that's such a
Speaker 1: good moment. And then his kid cool, it's such the
Speaker 1: saddest little boy, so cute. What was the stories the
Speaker 1: mom shot somebody and had to leave town or something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they were doing Elvis on Ice together. Yes, there's
Speaker 1: so many dumb jokes, but like funny dumb jokes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really really funny. And and and then the Martha Plimpton
Speaker 1: Kanu Reeves storyline is great. Two just the people in
Speaker 1: the movie, every single person was like so compelling. The
Speaker 1: cast is yeah, and they managed to juggle at all,
Speaker 1: I think really well, like that was pretty daunting to
Speaker 1: have that many characters and storylines. But yeah, their relationship
Speaker 1: was just so real and teen angsty and like I'm
Speaker 1: just so in love, you know, like it hurts there
Speaker 1: and so in love and you know they're not gonna last.
Speaker 1: And even at the end, Diane Wee is like give it.
Speaker 1: I know. I love that about them. Movie. It's so
Speaker 1: much gray area. Yeah, like it's so it could be
Speaker 1: one of those movies that like everything ties up in
Speaker 1: a yeah, but it isn't. Thank goodness, no, I mean
Speaker 1: there were some satisfying resolutions like the babies, all the
Speaker 1: babies that babies and well we'll get to the end
Speaker 1: in a minute. But um, the Diane Wes character, I
Speaker 1: love her, love love love her, and Mary Steen Virgin
Speaker 1: like in real life, Like I just worship both of
Speaker 1: them and the character Dane character to have and it
Speaker 1: all comes around. But having these two children, especially Gary
Speaker 1: the little Jokin, Like that's every parent's worst nightmare is
Speaker 1: to lose your children, lose that connection to where there's
Speaker 1: just nothing there. And I hadn't seen that movie since
Speaker 1: I had a kid at all, And that's like that's
Speaker 1: my worst nightmares, so not like having my little buddy
Speaker 1: like forever, and for there to be a time where
Speaker 1: she's like, I have anything to do with you, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I can't even think about that. I
Speaker 1: get like sad. And even his his character is not
Speaker 1: that straight up like I'm a teenager whatever. Mom. He's
Speaker 1: sadder than that. He's so much sadder than that, and
Speaker 1: so much lonelier than that. And when he comes to
Speaker 1: life and and is happier and Kianu reeves cuts his hair,
Speaker 1: she cuts his hair, and they all they all want
Speaker 1: to get their hair cut or whatever, and he smiles
Speaker 1: for the first time. It was so great. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I mean he's sad because he's a kid of a
Speaker 1: broken family and has a father that doesn't want anything
Speaker 1: to do with him. Yeah, so that's like how that's
Speaker 1: how kids react. It's just so real. Again, good, I
Speaker 1: love all of them. What are some of your and
Speaker 1: Rick Moran's I forgot, Oh my gosh, that whole part
Speaker 1: two where they've got the little girl who's yeah smart
Speaker 1: or something trained. And I love the moment when he
Speaker 1: wants to get back together with his wife and he
Speaker 1: comes into the classroom and she's teaching and he sings
Speaker 1: to That's very sweet. Yeah, there's so many awkward, uncomfortable
Speaker 1: moments too, like when the black Sheep brother comes in
Speaker 1: comes home and they're all sort of like hey, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you can just feel like you know it right
Speaker 1: away exactly what the whole situation, how the mom feels,
Speaker 1: how the dad feels, how the siblings feel. I love it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think everyone's been in situations like that in
Speaker 1: their own families, whether it's the weird cousin who shows
Speaker 1: up and everyone, you know, it's just like okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: but then you get a little older and the weird
Speaker 1: cousins probably normal, yeah, you know, although Tom holds him
Speaker 1: he had a gambling probably yeah he did. He was
Speaker 1: having a yeah right, Because then of course the dad
Speaker 1: has told, uh, Steve Martin he never should have had
Speaker 1: four kids, sne was tough. And then Steve Martin knows
Speaker 1: that his wife is pregnant with their fourth child. Yeah, done,
Speaker 1: done done. I made a note because at the very beginning,
Speaker 1: when with young gil Um that seems really funny, but
Speaker 1: he says something about I'm thirty five now and I'm
Speaker 1: forty seven, and I was just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: twelve years older than this character. Me too, I had
Speaker 1: the same thought. I was like, wait a minute, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he was like grown up googling ages. Was like,
Speaker 1: how old was Steve Martin when he played? I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't find out, but he was probably younger than me.
Speaker 1: Like he went gray super early, so he was gray
Speaker 1: in his like twenties, So he's not the best, you know,
Speaker 1: person to look at, right. I was alarmed by that
Speaker 1: moment as well, the age moment. And I also learned
Speaker 1: a new word when I was a kid, that word
Speaker 1: amalgolm that he explains, Oh yeah, he said, gone on
Speaker 1: to like every time I've ever said that word, I've
Speaker 1: thought of that scene that was really funny. Um. I
Speaker 1: had a couple of favorite lines picked out here too.
Speaker 1: Um Oh when when Diane Weese finds the naked pictures
Speaker 1: and and she says, Martha goes, it's just for fun, mom,
Speaker 1: and she says, well, I'm glad it's not a job.
Speaker 1: That scene where she's looking at the naked pictures and
Speaker 1: reacting like, oh, this one's for the fridge, really really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then she goes, oh, here's one for my wallet.
Speaker 1: Later on to man, it's so funny. How old is
Speaker 1: she supposed to be in that? Are they supposed to
Speaker 1: be teenagers? I guess, so she must be supposed to
Speaker 1: be like seventeen or sixteen. Yeah, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to tell. Her hair was so bad at the beginning
Speaker 1: of she was so young and uh great, I mean
Speaker 1: I just thought she was great in this, and I
Speaker 1: mean it's only a few years after Goon. He's really yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, that was probably eighty five or something. I
Speaker 1: have to confess I've never seen that. What no, oh
Speaker 1: my lord, I know, how did you manage to miss
Speaker 1: that one? You know, I have some weird cultural gaps
Speaker 1: in my past. Example, I never saw Star Wars. I
Speaker 1: never saw Keep Going Dirty Dancing. Okay, well, my mom
Speaker 1: says e t was the first movie she ever took
Speaker 1: me to in the theater. But I looked up when
Speaker 1: it came out, and that seems impossible that you saw.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was six months old when it came out.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that she took me to it, but
Speaker 1: maybe she did. Who knows. Well. I think they may
Speaker 1: have done it like a rerelease of that too, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's maybe it. Ran for a while. So you didn't
Speaker 1: see dirty Dancing, didn't see Star Wars, didn't what else?
Speaker 1: What other piggies can you think of? I didn't see.
Speaker 1: This happens all the time where things come up and
Speaker 1: everybody in the room record scratches and looks at me like,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Where have you been? Um? Gosh,
Speaker 1: now I'm blanking on. It's hard to remember things you
Speaker 1: haven't experienced. Sometimes the you know, it's not too late.
Speaker 1: I guess favorite movie, come over something the next time
Speaker 1: you come to Atlanta, will have a good side. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that. People. I've learned to kind of cover
Speaker 1: for my cultural gaps, so like I've kind of like
Speaker 1: gotten some yeah, some of the Star Wars lingo. Like
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, they're talking about Star Wars. In fact,
Speaker 1: I had like a I had like a weird quasi
Speaker 1: romantic interaction once that was over Instagram message and I
Speaker 1: was really thrown off by one of the person's responses
Speaker 1: to something. And then I showed it to someone else
Speaker 1: after I had responded like cluelessly like I don't know,
Speaker 1: like this person, I forget what it was exactly it was. Oh,
Speaker 1: I said something like you're my favorite and the person
Speaker 1: said I know, and I was like what, this is
Speaker 1: so confusing, And then I showed it to someone else
Speaker 1: and they're like, that's a Star Wars reference. I know
Speaker 1: because I know, So I like, I have to brush
Speaker 1: up on my things because you never know when somebody
Speaker 1: might be like making I'm not obscure, but like that
Speaker 1: didn't even jump to my mind immediately. That makes me
Speaker 1: feel better. Did you see have you seen none of
Speaker 1: the Star Wars is ever? No, none ever? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a pass on that because
Speaker 1: that insurprised me. You're not you wouldn't. That's not your thing?
Speaker 1: Probably not. I mean, do they have a lot of
Speaker 1: familial angst? Well? Yeah, okay, so I might like, but
Speaker 1: actually there is a lot of familiar lines. Um I
Speaker 1: had another really funny line into her. I like the
Speaker 1: bart Win Patty the little girl. Um Rick Morani's kid
Speaker 1: is looking at the flash cards that have the dots
Speaker 1: on them, and she the square rut of some crazy
Speaker 1: numbers and then his kid, uh, Steve Martin's could except
Speaker 1: the cardboard thing and and they're like, see, you know,
Speaker 1: he could be just as smart, And then they cut
Speaker 1: back to the kidneys eating and Martin. Martin says, slow down,
Speaker 1: justin I'll get you some dips. Yeah. Well, he always
Speaker 1: handles it so well, like you can tell it like
Speaker 1: behind the scenes with his wife, he kind of lets
Speaker 1: out how much some of that stuff bothers him, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't let his brother in law see that, which
Speaker 1: is good. Yeah, and they there was it's hard to
Speaker 1: have kids in movies, yea, and it can go really wrong, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're too acting. In precoc they totally pulled it off.
Speaker 1: I feel like with these kids, the set of kids,
Speaker 1: yeah for real. Yeah, And I mean a couple of
Speaker 1: the best scenes in the movie to me that even
Speaker 1: like you have a cold dead heart. If you don't,
Speaker 1: you can't watch the cowboy Gil scene and not like
Speaker 1: just smile from ear to ear totally, it's one of
Speaker 1: the great movie scenes totally, you know. And again like
Speaker 1: the retainer scene, it's so awful. Yeah, when when it
Speaker 1: looks like it's going wrong and the kid's birthday party
Speaker 1: is going wrong, and it's like, oh no, this is
Speaker 1: not what Kevin needs right now, not what he means. No,
Speaker 1: and then it doesn't seem like there's any way that
Speaker 1: Steve Martin could possibly face it. But he does, and
Speaker 1: but not again, not in like a you know beyond
Speaker 1: it's it's ridiculous enough that it's totally like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Yeah. The way it plays out too,
Speaker 1: they do. I think they were smart enough to where
Speaker 1: he didn't rush out there and everyone was like yeah,
Speaker 1: like he had to win them, and he started off
Speaker 1: and they're like, this is lame. Yeah, he talks about
Speaker 1: the bullet hole being bigger and bigger, and then he's like, wait,
Speaker 1: these are kids, and he talks about slipping around in
Speaker 1: the guts and like and then they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so good. Yeah, in the riding way and the
Speaker 1: horse and falling off it was and then popping back
Speaker 1: up over the hedge. It's just like such a great moment.
Speaker 1: And then even afterwards when he's talking to his life
Speaker 1: about it, and it hasn't it hasn't like quinged his
Speaker 1: worry about anything. It's like, but what next the next Kevin,
Speaker 1: Like what are we going to do? And I think
Speaker 1: that's what it's like to be grown up. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a ray of sunshine. What can I say? You know?
Speaker 1: Like just he just is like he's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: did that and it went well, but like, what are
Speaker 1: we going to do for these kids? And they're not
Speaker 1: going to make sure that they're okay? And it's like
Speaker 1: happiness is fleeting, Sadness is Forever. Yeah, totally. I want
Speaker 1: a T shirt that says that would be pretty good.
Speaker 1: It sounds like the name of a Lucy Wayne Right album. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could just be even called Sadness is Forever. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yeah, I like it. Uh. And then the
Speaker 1: other scene too that like, again, you have a cold
Speaker 1: dead heart if you're not like at least a little
Speaker 1: teary eyed. Is the baseball scene when Kevin finally like
Speaker 1: catches that ball. Yeah, and Steven three actually as goofy
Speaker 1: as he is. It's so great. That little movie he
Speaker 1: does is just like no one does that. It's so good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I love there are so many For some reason,
Speaker 1: it's it's funny and like genuinely funny enough to get
Speaker 1: away with the cheesiness of it, like where things go right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And like when Diane Wee's character has that boyfriend biology
Speaker 1: teacher and she says she peeed in the field that
Speaker 1: would stop, Like just the moments where people get when
Speaker 1: something goes right, are totally enjoyable because it's not because
Speaker 1: it's also like everything is sad and novel. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and you need sort of like sometimes you need to
Speaker 1: see something kind of sugary sweet like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because it is rough in real I r L. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wonder if people generally experience this movie as like
Speaker 1: as sad as I do. Like, I mean, it's not.
Speaker 1: I also think it's funny. But the reason I love
Speaker 1: it is because it has sort of like an undercurrent
Speaker 1: of and now I totally agree, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people may not. Like I think when people think, oh, parenthood,
Speaker 1: they remember Cowboy Go and hitting the head on the
Speaker 1: the kid ramming his head into things and all the
Speaker 1: sort of kind of silly jokes and not like all
Speaker 1: the pathos underneath all these characters. Yeah, I think it's
Speaker 1: it says something that I loved that movie as a kid,
Speaker 1: but when I watched as an adult so I'm thirty
Speaker 1: six now, and I I felt like, yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: totally hitting on like adult stuff. Also, like it wasn't
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh my god, like I thought,
Speaker 1: like it's a I totally get what they're getting at um.
Speaker 1: When Royal Tannon Bombs came out, another one of my
Speaker 1: favorite family family movies, family depiction movies. Haven't seen it, Lucy,
Speaker 1: really nope. Have you ever seen a Wes Anderson movie?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure your treasure. Try me on some others.
Speaker 1: Just the best Rushmore No, uh, Royal Tanning Bombs, Bottle
Speaker 1: Rocket like Aquatic darg Darjiling Limited. I'm going to go
Speaker 1: with no. Across the board. What was the one with
Speaker 1: the You haven't seen any of them? Maybe you don't
Speaker 1: think so? All right, you'd like it, You'd like Royal
Speaker 1: Tannon Bombs. It's another good movie about families that has
Speaker 1: a sad underbelly for sure. And the log line for
Speaker 1: that movie or maybe it was on the poster or
Speaker 1: something I'll never forget. It was so good. It was
Speaker 1: family isn't a word, It's a sentence. And I was
Speaker 1: like a man, Yeah, that's deep. That's the real deal. God,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Royal Fantom Bombs or any Wes Anderson
Speaker 1: movie at all. Yeah. We've only just begun to scratch
Speaker 1: the surface of what's missing from my consciousness. You know
Speaker 1: what's funny is my I have the little mini episodes
Speaker 1: to do on Monday with my co host Noel, who
Speaker 1: was usually over there, and I make fun of him
Speaker 1: all the time for the things he hasn't seen. So
Speaker 1: I did a little game called Knowles Holes where I
Speaker 1: picked like twenty movies from across a range of generations
Speaker 1: and but all really popular, and he kind of got
Speaker 1: piste off about it, which is kind of funny. But
Speaker 1: I think he saw eleven out of the twenty because
Speaker 1: we had a bet that it would be over under,
Speaker 1: so he just eked by, just eaked by. I could
Speaker 1: probably do really well slashed poorly at Knowles Holes if
Speaker 1: you played it with me. I just thought of another
Speaker 1: one Titanic I didn't see that. Or Romeo and Juliet
Speaker 1: with Claire Danes. I didn't see that either. You can
Speaker 1: get a pass on that one Titanic that was just
Speaker 1: so like big. It's hard to imagine you avoiding that. Well.
Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet when I was in high school, was
Speaker 1: like that all of the girls had seen. Yah. I
Speaker 1: should have seen, but I don't know what happened. But
Speaker 1: you've probably seen the seventies or the sixties version, right.
Speaker 1: I bet Romeo and Juliet. Maybe no, basually show that
Speaker 1: to school. I was too busy watching thirty something right
Speaker 1: over and over, over and over, or Parenthood over and ever.
Speaker 1: Let me see what else I have here. I think
Speaker 1: that's it, Grandma with the helium tank. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so goofy, but like, why not, she's so good? She
Speaker 1: was wonderful. Um, you got anything else on Parenthood? Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about the end. End. Really, we danced
Speaker 1: around it. That great bit of misdirection when the baby
Speaker 1: scene you think it's Mary Steen Virgin and then you think, well, no,
Speaker 1: maybe it was Martha. Yeah. But then the big reveal,
Speaker 1: I know, right, it's a latent life. Yes, baby from
Speaker 1: the biology teacher and Diane. We know it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's great. It's their babies and it's just kids and
Speaker 1: babies everywhere, and that's a really wonderful. I'm still totally
Speaker 1: sold on that. I think that was my idea of
Speaker 1: every movie, every happy movie. I know that, like Shakespeare's
Speaker 1: supposed to end with a wedding. Yeah, I don't care
Speaker 1: about that. How about a bunch of babies. That seems good.
Speaker 1: I miss having a baby, yeah, And I get why
Speaker 1: people have more babies because you miss babies and you
Speaker 1: get a little bit out of it and you're like,
Speaker 1: have a whatever three year old you're like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I miss babies. Yeah totally, And I have to stop
Speaker 1: myself when I see babies from touching them. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you up, yeah, you should not do that. But I
Speaker 1: want to have like hat that says I'm a dad.
Speaker 1: I like babies. I'm not a creek. Right. Well, when
Speaker 1: I was like, to your baby's foot exactly when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I could get away with that. I
Speaker 1: sometimes that my mom shows. I would go out in
Speaker 1: the audience and if somebody had a baby, I would
Speaker 1: like hang out with them and get them to give
Speaker 1: me the baby. So then I'd walk around the whole
Speaker 1: night with the baby. It was like a thing that
Speaker 1: I used to do. But it doesn't work when you're
Speaker 1: an adult. It seems dangerous and scary. When you're an adult,
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. You're a lady. You
Speaker 1: got a sweet face. You have to be real, real careful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well true, but it's not bring up there like people run. Well,
Speaker 1: if I had a baby, I'd let you touch it. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: how miss those babies? They're fine? And people that hate
Speaker 1: kids and babies. I mean, I get it, it's if
Speaker 1: that's your thing. Yeah, but like I'm always like you
Speaker 1: were a kid once. Yeah, I mean they're annoying but
Speaker 1: they're but they're also great. Yeah. Mean, it's it's a
Speaker 1: challenge to be sure. And um, you know, maybe I
Speaker 1: didn't love everyone else's kid before I had a kid.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's part of the endlessly interesting I think,
Speaker 1: and I used to when I was a teacher. I
Speaker 1: think that's part of what's so magical about that job,
Speaker 1: is just the array of people that you're dealing with
Speaker 1: in that intimate way. These a class full of people
Speaker 1: who are just so fully themselves. Yeah, and there's no um,
Speaker 1: I don't know all the correct psychological terms, but there's
Speaker 1: just no pretension about anything. It's just raw human beings
Speaker 1: and raw human nature and personality before they know, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's what sucks is is to see little bits
Speaker 1: of innocence being lost along the way. It's the saddest
Speaker 1: thing to see, like even little things like the first
Speaker 1: up true upsets. And that's the worst thing is they
Speaker 1: go from these perfect little pure beings and then he
Speaker 1: just gets chipped away as you grow older and older.
Speaker 1: That's the log line of parenthood. Yea, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: was putting my niece to bed a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and I don't see her that much because she lives
Speaker 1: in l a And I live in New York. And
Speaker 1: so she was milking. You know, I'd read like twelve books,
Speaker 1: sung a bunch of songs, sparently totally I have terrible boundaries,
Speaker 1: and so she was really getting a lot for her money.
Speaker 1: And so I finally said, like, hey, why don't you
Speaker 1: sing yourself a song. I'm just going to go out
Speaker 1: in the other room with the adults good night. And
Speaker 1: she said, fine, but I'm going to sing a song
Speaker 1: about a sad human. I was like, yeah, well, welcome
Speaker 1: to the family. What we do here? Seeing you tomorrow?
Speaker 1: Oh that's so funny. And how old At the time
Speaker 1: she was probably three almost four. Now she's seven, she's big. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. Ruby will start to she's you just
Speaker 1: get more clued in. Or she does two things and
Speaker 1: like little things like I was mad this morning because
Speaker 1: my stupid I was in a hurry and like the
Speaker 1: gate didn't shut and I had to get out and
Speaker 1: go do it. And I was just like outside and
Speaker 1: she went, Daddy, were you frustrated? I said I was,
Speaker 1: and she said why. I was like, it's fine, I'm
Speaker 1: just in a hurrying you it Were you frustrated because
Speaker 1: the gate didn't close? I was like, yes, I was.
Speaker 1: She was like I didn't miss any of that. Well,
Speaker 1: and part of it, too, is teaching future adults like
Speaker 1: to embrace all those feelings. I try my best to
Speaker 1: not say don't cry, you know. I'm like, cry, It's fine.
Speaker 1: You know, it's okay to be sad. And that's what
Speaker 1: this movie maybe has to say. Yeah, it's like all
Speaker 1: the emotions are here, yea, And even though they end
Speaker 1: on a high note, a baby filled, I know, we
Speaker 1: can assume that things are going to go downhill again shortly,
Speaker 1: even later that day, Like that's the whole movie is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the grandmother roller coaster thing. Uh huh, Like I
Speaker 1: wonder her parenthood. The movie ten years later, like Canna
Speaker 1: Reeves and Martha totally divorced, probably like a couple of kids.
Speaker 1: Who knows of little Joaquin? Little Gary is truly on
Speaker 1: the straight narrow. I guess it depends on if the
Speaker 1: biology teacher stuck around. Yeah, which you look, you know,
Speaker 1: they kind of set you up to think that they
Speaker 1: have they have a good thing going. Yep, and the
Speaker 1: grandparents are probably gone. They're gone. Inversion two, Yeah, chapter two.
Speaker 1: Mom might be around, but she didn't really have much
Speaker 1: of a part in this. No, she didn't. But but
Speaker 1: that said so much too sure, the kind of wife,
Speaker 1: the kind of marriage that she was in with her
Speaker 1: husband like that, and how he's kind of taking shots
Speaker 1: at her all the time but she doesn't say anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was he wasn't nice to his wife. No, it
Speaker 1: was not not nice to hit her mother either, Grandma. No.
Speaker 1: And I thought Steve Martin the way he handled that
Speaker 1: situation was so real. Um like, didn't show a lot
Speaker 1: of outward anger at his dad for being a shitty dad.
Speaker 1: It was just sort of like, he's got to be
Speaker 1: around and I'll tolerate it. But he did have that
Speaker 1: one good moment where Jason Robards, I mean, he's such
Speaker 1: a lovable guy and he played such a dick in this,
Speaker 1: but when he's saying, like Kevin, that kid, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's no bigger than you are, you should blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah, blah, And finally Steve Martins snapped and it's
Speaker 1: like Gina, shut up dad or whatever he said. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was so glad for that moment. It's like,
Speaker 1: somebody tell him to shut the funk up? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he didn't. He needed to be really yelled at. Because,
Speaker 1: of course, earlier in the movie they have the thing
Speaker 1: where he's like, who's wedding? Did I get drunk at?
Speaker 1: And Steve Martn's like, all three, dad, yeah, which flies
Speaker 1: right past Jason Robarts. He doesn't care, you know, but
Speaker 1: he needed to be in his place there at the end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and the sadness too of cool when Tom Holtz
Speaker 1: is basically setting up like the next thing and he's
Speaker 1: leaving and he fucking forgets about his son because Jason
Speaker 1: Robarts is like, and what about cool? And he was like,
Speaker 1: oh right, right, And that was so depressing and cool
Speaker 1: is so cute. I know, this little face and already
Speaker 1: has such a like is behind the eight ball in
Speaker 1: life because of his messed up dad. And then I
Speaker 1: guess he's staying with his super messed up granddad. So yeah,
Speaker 1: things are really going to go great for all of them.
Speaker 1: But they showed in the next chapter, they all seem
Speaker 1: happy in the hospital, they all had fun, all those
Speaker 1: babies and everything was fine and cut and we don't
Speaker 1: we don't see what happens. Did you watch the TV
Speaker 1: show it off? No? Is it? Are they the same?
Speaker 1: No idea? I was going to ask you. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it is probably right. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think in a way, I was afraid, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see it look at it, because
Speaker 1: I was because I love this one so much. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I don't know what they've done
Speaker 1: with it. Surely aren't enough babies in it. And they
Speaker 1: made it so many years later too, which is weird.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, who knows. I have to check it out,
Speaker 1: all right, Lucy. So we finished with a couple of segments.
Speaker 1: What Ebert said, this movie is a complete disappointment. He
Speaker 1: gave it four stars. That Roger Ebert, how many can
Speaker 1: you get? Four? Oh? Great? Yeah, he got four out
Speaker 1: of four. I feel like I won four out of
Speaker 1: your awesome. Um. Ron Howard's Parenthood is a delicate balancing
Speaker 1: act between comedy and truth, a movie that contains a
Speaker 1: lot of laughter and yet is more concerned with character
Speaker 1: than punch lines. It's the best kind of comedy where
Speaker 1: we recognize the truth of what's happening even while we're smiling,
Speaker 1: and where we eventually acknowledge that there is a truth
Speaker 1: in comedy that series drama can never quite reach. What
Speaker 1: I enjoyed most about the movie is the way so
Speaker 1: many scenes were thought through to an additional level. Howard
Speaker 1: and his collaborators don't simply make a point. They make
Speaker 1: the point and then take another look at it from
Speaker 1: a new angle, finding a different kind of truth. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. That's what I meant to say. No,
Speaker 1: I like sadness is forever better. Uh. And then five questions, Um,
Speaker 1: what's the first movie you remember seeing in the theater? Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, my mom says, my first movie was ET,
Speaker 1: But I was like, I couldn't speak or talk at
Speaker 1: that time, so that seems weird. I do remember seeing Bambi,
Speaker 1: and I remember that we went with my aunt Anna,
Speaker 1: who actually is a year younger than me because of
Speaker 1: an interesting family set up, and Anna she was into
Speaker 1: happy things and she was scared easily, and I remember
Speaker 1: that her mom had to remove her from the theater
Speaker 1: during Bambi, And also during the Fox in the Hound later,
Speaker 1: but I was like watching her go at the ais
Speaker 1: because of sadness, Yeah, like too scary, too sad. Bambi's
Speaker 1: mom gets shot. No boy, I have to go. No.
Speaker 1: And but I was like, I remember, like why watching
Speaker 1: her going up the I'll be like, no this, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm staying. Yeah, I'm in for this. Well, because they
Speaker 1: started off with Bambi's mom being shot and you're probably huh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's that's right, that's what happens. That
Speaker 1: movie ruined Emily for Disney movie. She's yeah, She's like,
Speaker 1: they're all they all have some sort of death. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they do. Like, yeah, I think that's kind of one
Speaker 1: of the points as they're trying to teach kids about
Speaker 1: death through Bamby, Sadness is forever. She's like, nope, uh,
Speaker 1: do you remember your first R rated movie? No, but
Speaker 1: I do remember that my mom let me watch on
Speaker 1: TV when I was about seven or eight, Fatal Attraction.
Speaker 1: That was probably your first. Sorry. She let me watch
Speaker 1: it all the way until the end, and there was
Speaker 1: one scene she wouldn't let me watch. I know, I
Speaker 1: bet the rabbit. She wouldn't let me watch that part,
Speaker 1: and she was like, you have to go to bed now.
Speaker 1: You can't see the rest because that would have truly
Speaker 1: upset you. Yeah. Well, yeah, I liked animals a lot
Speaker 1: and I still do Bilny, and it took years for
Speaker 1: me to discover what it was I didn't get to see,
Speaker 1: which is that she boiled the bunny. Yeah, good job, mom, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's totally the right thing to do. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I mean. The rest of the movie isn't particularly
Speaker 1: child friendly. No, not at all. Uh, will you walk
Speaker 1: out of a bad movie? Um? I know you. Talked
Speaker 1: with my dad about this, and he talked about how
Speaker 1: he walks out of movies a lot, and I find
Speaker 1: that to be very stressful to walk out of movie.
Speaker 1: When he walks out of a movie that I'm at
Speaker 1: with him, he'll just get up and leave with you.
Speaker 1: Or when I was a kid, I remember we once
Speaker 1: went to see a different Steve Martin movie, that one
Speaker 1: where he's like a um televangelists or something. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we left in the middle because my dad would I
Speaker 1: can't do this, So I didn't like that feeling. So
Speaker 1: I would say, for the most part, no, I would
Speaker 1: stay okay because I'm a dormat. Yeah, would take me.
Speaker 1: I'm a movie dormat. I'll watch whatever if if you
Speaker 1: get me in there, I'm in until the end. Movie dormat.
Speaker 1: I like that term. Yeah. Um, all right, this is
Speaker 1: tailored for you. What what song do you wish you
Speaker 1: had written? Like when you hear it, you're just like
Speaker 1: a man if I could write that song. Yeah, Well
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily your favorite song either, right the song? Mmm, gosh,
Speaker 1: this is really gotta think about this. Okay. There's a
Speaker 1: song called Holy by a songwriter called Chris Parika that
Speaker 1: I've uttered the words I wish I wrote this song.
Speaker 1: It's not a song that a lot of people would
Speaker 1: probably know, but it's really really sad so good. Um
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, it's like, God, damn it, this sadness chunk
Speaker 1: has taken already. You already wrote it, um, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to think of something more. Well, one thing I've
Speaker 1: I've noticed is that some really famous songs that I
Speaker 1: have known always, I've covered them and they've changed into
Speaker 1: a different thing for me. So, like you up plenty
Speaker 1: of cover songs, Right, I'm like a dirge machine. You
Speaker 1: can just give me something upbeat and I'll just dirgify
Speaker 1: it for Yeah, that would be tragic. So I've been
Speaker 1: singing lately. I've been singing in my show lately, um
Speaker 1: because I feel like people are so stressed about the
Speaker 1: world and things are really hard and people having a
Speaker 1: hard time. I've been singing won't back down, but like
Speaker 1: super sad and slow. I could hear that, like I'm
Speaker 1: picturing that coming from you, and I bet that's great.
Speaker 1: You won't have to picture it too much longer because
Speaker 1: I'm going to put it up on Spotify. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's a song I've always known, I've always liked,
Speaker 1: but then in that context, you're like, oh, like it's
Speaker 1: really actually totally heartbreaking. I know, I'm thinking of those
Speaker 1: words now. Yeah, And so you know that ability for
Speaker 1: somebody to write a song like that that lives its
Speaker 1: whole life as one thing but holds up as a
Speaker 1: totally different thing, that's pretty cool, you know, like a
Speaker 1: hungry art I did that to same thing like I've
Speaker 1: had in my whole life, you know. But then when
Speaker 1: I heard it, yeah, we did that. And also on
Speaker 1: my record, I sang it with Martha Plimpton and it
Speaker 1: was her idea to first cover it. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: good one too. Yeah, and so I admire that kind
Speaker 1: of writing where maybe the song even has two lives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect Petty and Springsteen. Um, but that was
Speaker 1: a good answer. Oh, good movie, going one on one?
Speaker 1: What what do you do with the theater? Where do
Speaker 1: you sit? And what do you eat? Um? I will
Speaker 1: sit anywhere. This is this is like I'm. Like I
Speaker 1: said earlier, I have pretty bad boundaries and practice pretty
Speaker 1: poor self care. So really I'll do whatever the other
Speaker 1: person wants. I'll sit anywhere, and I'll eat anything, and
Speaker 1: I'll do whatever you want mostly and I but I
Speaker 1: used I like I'm I'm really I like babies, but
Speaker 1: I also really like candy. Um. I never think I
Speaker 1: want popcorn, but usually if someone gets it, I started
Speaker 1: with the popcorn, and that I can do. I can
Speaker 1: put away some popcorn. I like babies, but I really
Speaker 1: like candy. That's another T shirt. If you ever taken
Speaker 1: candy from the baby not yet take a baby with
Speaker 1: this has the candy. Yeah, that's the movie. And you've
Speaker 1: got all of them, got it all, got it all, babies,
Speaker 1: candy and a record, a criminal record. I think it's
Speaker 1: a perfect way to end. All right, Thanks Lucy, Thank
Speaker 1: you all right, folks. I hope you dug that one.
Speaker 1: That was fun. I like to get these musicians in here.
Speaker 1: And I guess technically Lucy's an actor as well because
Speaker 1: she was on The Stuff You Should Know Show. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if you like Jerry, I mean
Speaker 1: she should have got an Emmy nomination for that because
Speaker 1: Cherry is an enigma and she really captured that on screen. Everybody. Uh,
Speaker 1: So check out the Stuff you Should Know show. Go
Speaker 1: give it a look if you never saw it. Um,
Speaker 1: it's a very odd little show that we did. And
Speaker 1: like I said, you can get on Amazon Prime and
Speaker 1: check out Lucy's handiwork as an actor. I thought she
Speaker 1: was just so good and natural. And Lucy doesn't have
Speaker 1: a false bone in her body and that comes across
Speaker 1: on screen. Uh, And so support her her work. Go
Speaker 1: see her on tour. Like I said, get Little Beast
Speaker 1: and check that out. Put it on when it's raining outside,
Speaker 1: and you know, thank yourself, and uh, I hope you
Speaker 1: had a good time. Until next time, write a sad
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