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Speaker 3: Cool. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. The winds

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Speaker 3: keep getting stacked, and we haven't even gotten the official

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Speaker 3: inauguration of Donald Trump yet. We're gonna have some fun

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Speaker 3: with you here on this Wednesday, one week before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: I know many of you out there are super excited Christmas.

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Speaker 3: even said on this program, we will be up in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. For the inauguration from the Clay and Buck

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Speaker 3: all the sites and sounds of the nation's capital as

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump takes back control. There are a lot of

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Speaker 3: this morning, in conjunction with breaking news I believe from

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Speaker 3: Variety magazine, the culture Wars, we're finally starting to win

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Speaker 3: some battles. Buck and I've got a sort of roadmap

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Speaker 3: here that I want to run us through your home

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Speaker 3: state of Florida now or your relocated home state. Buck

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Speaker 3: has become a frontline winner in this culture war, and

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Speaker 3: The decision to settle the ABC News defamation lawsuit filed

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Speaker 3: accusing him of having been adjudicated guilty of or a

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Speaker 3: the decision went all the way up to CEO Bob Iger.

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Speaker 3: Why did they settle this case? It made it past

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Speaker 3: summary judgment. That means it was going to go to

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Speaker 3: of Florida won by thirteen points by Donald Trump, where

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Speaker 3: Ron DeSantis has absolutely kicked Disney's butt all over the

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Speaker 3: with this news story. Again, I think this is significant.

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Speaker 3: First of all, the fact that it even happened is

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Speaker 4: I would just say to put in context, Clay, what

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Speaker 4: think Clay your ABC Stephanopolis point, this is really really

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Speaker 4: critical right now for the Trump movement. We've talked a

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Speaker 3: But there's also the border, which we've talked about a lot.

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Speaker 4: Here's the question, Clay, and it's a big one, and

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Speaker 4: the proper response, Clay, to the law fair that has

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Speaker 4: Everybody's happy except the Democrat partisan Attorney general. The New

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Speaker 3: I think that's what all said. Here's what a lot

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Speaker 3: these lawsuits, the biggest part of lawfair against Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: Let's think about some of the defamation suits. That's what

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Speaker 4: This is It's so important though, that people understand the

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Speaker 4: Sexton show another news story, and I think it ties

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Speaker 6: criticize the leader of government, those who would criticize the

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Speaker 6: is the beginning of the end of democracy.

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Speaker 3: He's completely wrong here. And notice what he doesn't say

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Speaker 3: that George Stepanopolis was wrong. Trump filed a lawsuit because

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Speaker 3: George Stepanopolis on his program incorrectly said that Trump had

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Speaker 3: been adjudicated Civilly liable for rape. He was not. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the jury said he was not culpable, he was not liable.

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Speaker 3: So what Lawrence s Tribe is not saying here is

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Speaker 3: actually George Stepanopolis put his employers in a bad position

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Speaker 3: by saying something that was untrue on television, and in fact,

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Speaker 3: we should want fewer people saying things that are untrue

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Speaker 3: on television. Here's Chuck Todd. He said, oh, this is

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Speaker 3: a gut punch for all of media. How so Stephanoppolis

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Speaker 3: was wrong.

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Speaker 7: Listen, this was stunning to me and absolutely a gut

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Speaker 7: punch to anybody that works at a major media company,

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Speaker 7: because I think it does set a it sets a

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Speaker 7: precedent that is going to be very difficult. It's going

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Speaker 7: to be very difficult to get from get out from

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Speaker 7: under potentially. I just you know, I think the risk

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Speaker 7: of losing this suit was five percent, right ABC, So

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Speaker 7: you know this was a decision to buy off of

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Speaker 7: that pr okay that he's wrong to I think they

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Speaker 7: would have lost this suit.

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Speaker 3: Now they may have won the appeal. But here is

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Speaker 3: something that's really important. George Stephanopoulos has the right to

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Speaker 3: say anything that he wants about Donald Trump. He can

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Speaker 3: say I believe Donald Trump is a rapist. Now the

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Speaker 3: evidence doesn't support that based on that case. What he

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Speaker 3: can't say is that a court said Trump was a

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Speaker 3: rapist because that didn't happen. There is a big distinction

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Speaker 3: and a lot of people don't understand this between opinion

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Speaker 3: this case is, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we could sit here, remember Keith Oldman's worst

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Speaker 4: person in the world thing. We could say that in

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Speaker 4: media the worst person in the world in our opinion,

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Speaker 4: or I says for me, the worst person in the

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Speaker 4: world may in fact be Keith Oberman. That's an opinion.

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Speaker 4: But you can't say that. Let's say some person is

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Speaker 4: adjudicated a murderer or a judian. You can't say someone's

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Speaker 4: a child molester according to court record when that's a lie,

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Speaker 4: because then you can destroy anybody's reputation. You could destroy

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Speaker 4: any person in the public.

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Speaker 3: Sphere that there's that like. Keith Oberman is a good example.

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Speaker 3: I believe iHeart distributes Keith Oberman's podcast. One of you

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Speaker 3: sent me a clip where Keith Oberman and by the way,

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Speaker 3: iHeart distributes this show, Keith Oberman called me a racist neandal.

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Speaker 3: I think now I would, by you know, an awful

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Speaker 3: human being, like a bunch of different insults from Keith Olberman.

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Speaker 3: Distributed by iHeart Now. I have a thick skin, and

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Speaker 3: I think Keith Olberman should be able to say truly

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Speaker 3: awful things about me, but he shouldn't be able to

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Speaker 3: say to your point, Clay Travis has been adjudicated to

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Speaker 3: be a rapist or a child molestor if he said

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Speaker 3: that about me, I don't know that I would spend

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Speaker 3: the time filing a lawsuit on it, but he would

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Speaker 3: be liable for those things because it's actually untrue. Whereas

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Speaker 3: his opinion, you guys can listen to, maybe some of

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Speaker 3: you agree, maybe some of you think I'm a Trogola dyte, awful, misogynist, racist,

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Speaker 3: Like you're entitled to have that opinion. You can't say

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Speaker 3: a court has determined it to be true. That's what

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Speaker 3: Stephanopflis did. He screwed up in a big way and

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Speaker 3: his company is paying because of that.

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Speaker 4: Well, Also, this comes after years you know, I think

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Speaker 4: the context here is important, Clay. This comes after years

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Speaker 4: of them saying with impunity, and I think with a

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Speaker 4: degree of political efficacy. The most awful things about Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump imaginable, yes, you know, saying, for example, they could say, oh,

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Speaker 4: well he's a racist. Now, that's basically an opinion, right

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Speaker 4: you can. And of course the Democrats do. They call

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Speaker 4: anybody they want a racist, and they try to ruin

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Speaker 4: somebody in the public sphere, and they try to destroy

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Speaker 4: their reputation. They know that a lot of the people

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Speaker 4: they say this about are not racist, but you know, whatever,

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Speaker 4: that's an opinion. But when they say things like Trump

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Speaker 4: is a an agent of Russia, a Russian asset, that's

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Speaker 4: accusing it effectively of a.

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Speaker 3: Crime, a crime of treason.

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Speaker 4: Really, and you would wonder what is the society coming

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Speaker 4: to if you can say these things with total impunity

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Speaker 4: and there's no repercussions whatsoever. Why not just lie about

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Speaker 4: everybody in the most egregious way all the time.

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Speaker 3: There actually have to be lines here.

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Speaker 4: That's why defamation and slander and libel are on the books.

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Speaker 3: For good reason. Yeah, and this is why, and I

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Speaker 3: actually maybe we should do a deep dive. I'll even

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Speaker 3: sit down and talk to a bunch of nerds, legal

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Speaker 3: nerds on this, because some of you may be super

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Speaker 3: interested in it, I am, and a lot of legal

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Speaker 3: stuff makes my eyes roll back into my head. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: this is the most boring thing. Ever. The way in

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Speaker 3: which we define the First Amendment in a social media

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Speaker 3: era has to be recalibrated, because back in the day Buck,

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Speaker 3: when New York Times v. Sullivan happened, your name only

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Speaker 3: appeared in the newspaper typically if you were a normal person,

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Speaker 3: not a public figure, on the day you were born

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Speaker 3: and on the day you died, right, That was pretty

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Speaker 3: common in the nineteen forties, nineteen fifties, sixties, that kind

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Speaker 3: of era, So most people were not quote unquote public figures.

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Speaker 3: In this day and age, I would argue of social media,

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Speaker 3: almost everyone is a public figure at all the time.

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Speaker 3: And I think we should have a standard that is

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Speaker 3: difficult to define, but should apply kind of evenly between everyone,

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Speaker 3: because all of us are modern day public figures. What

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Speaker 3: should be able to be said in a public forum

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Speaker 3: the way that it is in New York Times, Hey Sullivan.

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Speaker 3: And also, we don't have this print publication era where

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Speaker 3: everybody has tons of hours to get ready. There are

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Speaker 3: lots of errors that happen. I hoped. Remember the Nicholas

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Speaker 3: Sandman case, that young kid who was wearing the Make

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Speaker 3: America Great Again hat? I remember Lincoln Memorial steps. They

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Speaker 3: totally turned him into a racist, awful human being. He

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Speaker 3: got attacked unfairly. He'd done nothing wrong. In fact, he

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Speaker 3: was a victim when the full context of the video

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Speaker 3: came out. He's a kid on a freaking class trip

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Speaker 3: to Washington, d C. On the steps of the Lincoln Memorial.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what the settlements he got because they

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Speaker 3: weren't public. Somebody needs to take a case all the

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Speaker 3: way to the end degree and really have a new

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Speaker 3: precedent set. So that's to me, what the significance is

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Speaker 3: of this fifteen million dollars that Trump got from ABC News.

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Speaker 3: It's ABC News recognizing Stephanopolis was totally wrong. I think

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Speaker 3: buck they're behind the scenes. They were about to get

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Speaker 3: the depositions. I think they would have found out how

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Speaker 3: biased ABC News is against Trump. There would have been

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Speaker 3: a lot of discovery that would have embarrassed that network.

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Speaker 3: That's why Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, which owns

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Speaker 3: ABC News, I believe, made the decision to settle this

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Speaker 3: case so.

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Speaker 4: I look, I understand for some people who are seeing

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Speaker 4: what's going on here. I mean, you know, the Seltzer lawsuit,

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think that's going anywhere because her

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Speaker 4: defense is just going to be I'm an idiot or

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Speaker 4: you know, I was idiot on this issue.

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Speaker 3: I screwed up. I don't think a.

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Speaker 4: Poll unless they can prove that you were kind of

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Speaker 4: colluding behind the scenes to.

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Speaker 3: Miss intentional manipulation of the ball would be the only way.

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Speaker 4: It would be really tough. It's not impossible. I think

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Speaker 4: it's really really hard to prove that Upholster was doing

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Speaker 4: something that's legally actionable in a civil context. That said,

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Speaker 4: the stuff that they've been getting away with when it

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Speaker 4: comes to Trump and doing to Trump. That's why I

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Speaker 4: think the Egen Carol suit and the Rudy Giuliani suit

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Speaker 4: in Atlanta, you know, and these they're bankrupting their political

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Speaker 4: enemies with with nonsense. I mean, in what universe do

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Speaker 4: you have one hundred and fifty million dollars judge for

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Speaker 4: two women who, based on their current earnings, and they're

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Speaker 4: not going to make five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Over the next thirty years.

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Speaker 4: Clay, Yeah, So you're you know, so you're giving them

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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million dollars. That's not even gonna

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Speaker 4: happen because Rudy Giuliani has already been bankrupted by all

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Speaker 4: the lawfair against him. It's it's monstrous what they done

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Speaker 4: with the law, and it has to be set right.

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Speaker 4: And I think just this brings this full circle through

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Speaker 4: their initial discussion, which is it doesn't The way out

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Speaker 4: of this is not well, we're not going to do

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Speaker 4: mean things to them, it's what are our principles, what

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Speaker 4: are our what are our legal and ethical responsibilities to

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Speaker 4: the system who violated those? And what will their punishment

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Speaker 4: be that, you know, other otherwise you're just in a

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Speaker 4: this is really easy, Like you can't have a one

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Speaker 3: So this needs to be done.

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Speaker 4: This needs to be part of the incoming administration's agenda.

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Speaker 4: You know, the Christmas holiday is a celebration of life.

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Speaker 4: You have an opportunity to share that same gift with

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