1 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to this week's episode of A Cowboy Life, the Podcast, 2 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: presented by Smoothie King. Blending goodness to fuel your greatness. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm Brady Tinker. A brief prologue to today's story. You know, 4 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I've been privileged to cover the Dallas Cowboys for my 5 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: TV shows DFW Sports Beat and my radio show Off 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: of the Helmets, and now for A Cowboy Life, the 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: storytelling podcast for nearly twenty two years. It's been a 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: great job for me, and the most enjoyable part of 9 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: each season is getting to know the players. And there 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: are sometimes as many as seventy five or eighty guys 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: who wear a Cowboy uniform during a season, so now 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: I don't get to know them all, but the ones 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: I do get to know, I usually connect with sort 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: of about them in the instinct they seem interesting to 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: me and I gravitate their way. The most fun stretch 16 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: of the Cowboys seasons that I've covered to this point 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: started in two thousand and three, when things around the 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: organization were beginning to shift. Bill Parcels was coming in 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and so was an nobody named Romo at quarterback, and 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: there was a sense that a new era was coming 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: The draft class of two thousand and five was a 22 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: top ten all time Cowboys group, and they were full 23 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: of energy and personality, and covering the Cowboys was beginning 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: to be fun again. Several of the rookie class had 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: wonderful personalities and some charisma, and nearly all of them 26 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: made the team and made an impact. Among that group 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: was a tall, athletic New Yorker who grew up in 28 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: co Ops City, then played his high school sports in 29 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina, all to end up a college football player 30 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: at the University of Virginia. His name is Chris Canty. 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: He had a passion for the game, for the city 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: of Dallas, and for life in general, and he in 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, the Cowboys were really good. Here's 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: a story from Chris Canty's a Cowboy Life. It's called 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: the most talented team I ever played on. I tell 36 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: people this all the time, and folks don't believe me. 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: That year in Dallas was more fun than a year 38 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: we won the Super Bowl in New York. In case 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: you do happen to remember two thousand and seven at 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: all off the top of your head, then you know 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: the Cowboys had a nice mix of young athletes and 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: veteran influence. They won thirteen games that year and earned 43 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: a top seat in the playoffs. So why did Chris 44 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: say that people don't believe him when he says it's 45 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,839 Speaker 1: the most fun he ever had in his career. Well, 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: because Chris ended up in a Giant's uniform in two 47 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: thousand and nine and won a Super Bowl in Arizona 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: two years later over Tom Brady's unbeatable Patriots, and he 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: had a hell of a year, That's why. But you 50 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: come into the NFL with a group of men all 51 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: about your age, all thrilled to be wearing the NFL shield, 52 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: and all feeling like they have the world by the tail, 53 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: especially if they're Dallas Cowboys the top. It all off 54 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: for Chris. His new coach was Bill Parcels, a noted 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: winner in this league, and everywhere he looked were young, 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: talented guys just like him who wanted to talk all 57 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the time about winning. It had to be there to 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: see it because it was just such a young vibe 59 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 1: on the team. I mean, yeah, we had the veteran guys, 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: You had veteran guys, but it was a young uy 61 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: like that was a young team, you know, you had 62 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the young guys on the defense, and 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: you had Marrying on the offense. You know, you had 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: a bunch of young guys, and that's what made it 65 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: so cool. It made it fun, you know, because it 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 1: was just kind of like we were so good, so young, 67 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: we didn't know any better. It was really a coming 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: of age type of season in a lot of way 69 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: on and off the field. For us. It's rare than 70 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: an NFL team will choose eight guys in a draft 71 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: and have seven of them become regulars as rookies. But 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: that's what happened with the class of O five for 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Chris, here's the thing. I knew that 74 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I was probably going to get drafted by the Dallas Cowboys, 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, a month month and a half before the 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: draft kicked off. I just didn't know where. I didn't 77 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: know how much my medical situation with the knee and 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: the eye was going to impact my draft status, or 79 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: what I did know is Jerry Jones wanted me in 80 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: the building. Chris's medical status before the two thousand and 81 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: five draft class looked like this. In his senior season 82 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: at Virginia, he tore his anterior posterior and medial ligaments 83 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: in his knee. But it happened in October, so he 84 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: had been rehabbing for seven months prior to the draft, 85 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: and the doctors were giving him a clean bill of 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: health with that knee. But in January of two thousand 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: and five, just a few months before the draft, he 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: was trying to exit a bar when a fight broke 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: out on the other side of the room and a 90 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: beer bottle was thrown. You can see it in the air, 91 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: traveling some twenty feet, and as Chris says, lightning struck 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: the tallest tree and that was him. The bottle crashed 93 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: into the side of his head, immediately detaching his retina 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: from his left eye. Emergency surgery saved his sight, but 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: there were several more surgeries to stabilize his vision. A 96 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: special helmet was developed to protect that eye from any 97 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: contact on the football field. But his draft stock went 98 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: from a late first round pick to well, who knows 99 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: when he'll get picked. And I kind of had an 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: idea of the direction that they wanted to go with things, 101 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: because when I came on my pre draft visit, Bill 102 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: and Jerry, you know, they kind of told me, listen, 103 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: we want to change his defense to a thirty four defense, 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: He says, Bill Tom's gonna be the same defense he 105 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: ran with Ala Virginia. Al Virginia is al Grow, the 106 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: longtime coach of the Virginia Cavaliers football team. Bill Parcels 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: had al on his staff of the Giants when they 108 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: won Super Bowl twenty five. They were friends, so Parcels 109 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: had a great handle on Chris Canty, the person as 110 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: well as the football player. Chris falling to the fourth round, 111 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: while unlucky for him, was very lucky for the Dallas Cowboys. 112 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Al Grow was running the same defense at Virginia that 113 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: Parcels taught him with the Giants eleven years earlier, and 114 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: the same defense Parcels was installing for Jerry Jones and 115 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys in two thousand and five. So maybe 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: in some ways Chris Canty falling to the fourth round 117 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: was lucky for him too. I knew that there was 118 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: gonna be the potential of drafting. I kind of had 119 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: an idea some of the guys that they had an 120 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: eye on, but didn't actually see the draft fall the 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: way that it fell. I was a little frustrated after 122 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Day one, Day two I didn't get drafted in the 123 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: first three rounds, and I was just kind of like, 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: all right, whatever happened happened. I saw when the Cowboys 125 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: took the Marcus. I was like, okay, they took him 126 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: over Shaw and Mary and that's that raised an eye 127 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: round But I could see that because we played against 128 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: Troy and he was a hell of a go getter then. 129 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: And then I saw them take Marcus at twenty and 130 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, there's a stud end. He's gonna 131 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: play the left end position. Then in the second round 132 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: they took KB. I was like, I wasn't sure whether 133 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: he's could be an inside guy or an outside guy. 134 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: Now they took Marrying at the beginning of the fourth round. 135 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm not going anywhere until the fifth round. 136 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: I see the trade happening on the screen. We have 137 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: a trade. The Philadelphia Eagles have traded pick number one, 138 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: thirty two and round number four and picked number two 139 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: h six in round number six to the Dallas Cowboys. 140 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: With pick number one thirty two in the fourth round 141 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select Chris Canty, 142 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: defensive band Virginia. I get a phone call I'm Jerry 143 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Jones saying he wants you to be a Cowboys. So 144 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: I said, okay, great, I mean my plane ticket, I'm 145 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: ready to go to work. Quote I'm ready to go 146 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: to work, just the words that Jerry and coach Parcel 147 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: Is expected to hear from Chris Canty. They'd spent time 148 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: with him on his visit to Dallas a month earlier, 149 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and they had enjoyed extensive phone calls with an old friend, 150 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: Virginia's football coach Al grow who had let them know 151 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: that Chris was a worker and then he was going 152 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: to be an impact player in a three four defense 153 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: in the NFL. But there was one surprise for Chris 154 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: when he got to rookie camp. I didn't really know 155 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: about Jay Ratliff. And until I actually got there's a 156 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: rookie mini camp. And when I got out from playing 157 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: to Dallas and checks me into that Marriott on one fourteen, 158 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe was my roommate. It's easy to understand why 159 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Chris didn't know about Jay Ratler. You see, Jay was 160 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: chosen in the seventh round, three rounds after Chris was 161 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: picked in round four. And well, in that time he 162 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: was elated and celebrating, and he was calling Folk to 163 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: tell him that he was now in the NFL and 164 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: he was going to head the Dallas to be a cowboy. 165 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: He didn't care anymore about who the Cowboys chose later 166 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: in the draft. He was just inhaling and exhaling and 167 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: dreaming of being part of America's team. And then he 168 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: opened the door to room number two nineteen at that 169 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: small hotel in Irving, Texas, and there was a giant, 170 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: angry looking man named Jay. The whole weekend for rookie Minican. 171 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: This guy says like five words to me. You know, 172 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: I come into the room. You know, he's already unpacking 173 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: the stuff. He looked at me. I leave him and 174 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: I was like, what's up, man, I'm Chris. He was 175 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: like suck like, kind of like I don't want to 176 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: talk to you. I don't want to know you. I'm 177 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: here for business. And I was like, all right, I'd 178 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: be which weighted is going? Allow me to back up 179 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: here just a minute. Chris went through the guys kind 180 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: of quickly who went in the draft ahead of him 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. But I want to remind 182 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: you of who they were, Pick number eleven, in round 183 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: number one was defensive end to Marcus Ware from Troy. 184 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: He ended his career with nine Pro Bowls, a Super 185 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Bowl Trophy, in over one hundred sackson. He will most 186 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: likely be enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, his first year of eligibility. Also 188 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: chosen in round one at pick number twenty was defensive 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: end Marcus Spears, an All American from LSU who was 190 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: drafted then to take on two offensive linemen on each 191 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: play so that the four linebackers around him could make 192 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: the tackles. Not a sexy job, but one that he 193 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: did very well for eight years in Dallas. He was 194 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: also a big key to the success of this unit. 195 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: KB that Chris mentioned he is Kevin Burnett, an All 196 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: American linebacker from Tennessee who played four years in Dallas 197 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: at nearly every linebacker position, and what I remember most 198 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: about him was when he played. When he was on 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: the field, he made an impact every game. Marion Barber 200 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: was chosen next, a running back from Minnesota who was 201 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: a hard nosed kid who scored forty seven touchdowns with 202 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in his six years. His hit or get 203 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: hit style set a tone for this team on both 204 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Defensive tackle Jay Ratlip is the 205 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: last name that I'll remind you about. Chosen in round 206 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: seven from Auburn. He was undersized when you looked at 207 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: him as a defensive tackle, but not when you watched him. 208 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: He was one of the toughest men to ever play 209 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: football during his nine years as the Dallas Cowboy Kevin Burnett. 210 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: Jay is a scary guy, and I mean he played 211 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: that way. We had we had to camp and after that, 212 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: like he and I became really good friends. You know him, 213 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: Thomas Johnson, myself, Markeat Spear, the markets, like we all 214 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: kind of clicked up. That was our group, a bunch 215 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: of rookies brought in by Jerry and Stephen Jones and 216 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: head coach Bill Parcels. That quote clicked up, But it 217 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: was more than just being buddies. They were all ready 218 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: to play from the beginning. They all had winning in mind. 219 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Things were about to change in Dallas for your Cowboys. 220 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: I remember getting together with that group of guys once 221 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: we got down there, and it was just like they 222 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of high character guys that had guys 223 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: that loved football. When They had guys with leadership intangibles, 224 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and I think we all recognize that within one another, 225 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: and so it wasn't about trying to figure out who 226 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: was the best. It was about trying to figure out 227 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: how we can work together so that we could be 228 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: at our best when the season got around, because that's 229 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: what we were focused on. Here's Kevin Burnett to remind 230 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: us that it wasn't just the defensive guys in that 231 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: draft that set a tone. Marian Barber was the key 232 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: that brought us all together. And a running back brought 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: them all together. And if you were ever around maryan Barber, 234 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: the third Mary and the Barbarian, then you know he 235 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: didn't bring them together with his outgoing personality. He was, 236 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: to say the least, very quiet, but what he did 237 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: exude was a fierce toughness and those defensive guys respected 238 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: it and they loved it. He was one of them. 239 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: The class of two thousand and five for the Dallas Cowboys. Now, 240 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: I remember being surprised when it seemed like lots of 241 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: guys on the defensive training camp were sidling up next 242 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: to Chris for tips on the new defense that Bill 243 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: Parcels and Mike Zimmer were putting in. He's a rookie. 244 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: But remember Bill told Chris when they drafted him. He 245 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: told him on the phone, We're going to run the 246 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: same defense that you played at Virginia with Al. It 247 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: was the same exact defense. I'm teaching veteran what to 248 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: do on the defense, like everybody in the front seven. 249 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: They're coming to me asking me questions about how to 250 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: play things and what are the calls, what are checked 251 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: all this stuff because I knew the defense forward and backwards. 252 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: I played it four years of Virginia. That had to 253 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: have been a cool feeling being a rookie and having 254 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: new teammates and veterans asked for your help on this 255 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: new defense that you knew so well. How did you 256 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: think rookie camp went Overall? After rookie Minicamp, guys went 257 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: back home for a little bit and then came back 258 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: for all of the OTAs and stuff. And that was 259 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: our little good when we came back from the OTA like, 260 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: that was our group and that's kind of how we 261 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: worked out together. We're in the film room, study and 262 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: extra tape trying to figure out the way that we 263 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 1: want to get better. Because Bill it told us that 264 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: he was going to be dependent on us to play 265 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: as rookie. We kind of had to grow up quick. 266 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: So the energy that we media guys thought we saw 267 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: a rookie camp carried over when you guys got back 268 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: for OTAs, and now the head coach is looking at 269 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: all of you and saying, get ready, you're gonna all 270 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: be playing pretty cool. Back to Kevin Burnett, I remember 271 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: him saying, hey, we need we need you guys to 272 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: play right away. When you look at it, we all 273 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: contributed very early to be able to one be drafted 274 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: in that class with such talent, and then to get 275 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to play with guys said I still keep 276 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: in contact with It was amazing. It was amazing, and 277 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: it was a bond and an energy that even we 278 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: media guys could feel. It excited us for what might 279 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: happen in the next few years, just like it did 280 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: you guys. But in all of this excitement and love 281 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: for each other, Chris, you didn't tell us how all 282 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: of you guys as we're getting on with Jay Ratlins. 283 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: Did he ever say more than five words? Jay is 284 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: one of those guys. Man, he's your best friend or 285 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: your worst enemy, and you know, he and I we 286 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: stayed pretty close throughout the years, Like I talked to him, 287 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, once a week. The one thing that I 288 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: can stay looking back on it is that Jay Ratliff 289 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: was a better friend to me than I was to 290 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: him when we were in Dallas. And it's just because 291 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: he always looked out for me. He always tried to 292 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: make sure that he steered me away from some of 293 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: the things away from the field that could have taken 294 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: away from what I was trying to do on the field. 295 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: He was very protective in a brotherly type of way, 296 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: like not wanting to have a lot of strange people 297 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: around me that way to this day, and I love 298 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: him for that. What a nice thing for you was 299 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the group that way with each other. 300 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: We were all really really close, and you know, it 301 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: was just it was like you weren't gonna you weren't 302 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: gonna mess with my brother, Like that's my brother. Throughout 303 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: my life, my favorite parts of sports, even above the 304 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: competition that I craved so much, was the team aspect, relationships, 305 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: giving and taking, helping each other, supporting each other and 306 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: loving each other. And when it culminates in winning, something 307 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 1: really special can happen, Chris. So here's the thing about it, Brady, 308 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: we all had some of that connection. All of us 309 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: had it. Marcus, the Marcus, Jay, Thomas Johnson, who was there, 310 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Burnett, like, we all had that kind 311 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: of connection. And that's how winning begins. Whether it was 312 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: just a great job of drafting the right kind of people, 313 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: or maybe it was just that there were five really 314 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: talented defenders with one beast physical running back at it 315 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: at the right time, or maybe a ton of it 316 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: was Parcels and his mind games that work so often. 317 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it was palpable and undeniable and important 318 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys franchise. Kevin Dee where we were training, Buddies, 319 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: Me and Spears hung out off the field. I had 320 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: my own individual relationship with everybody else, close with everybody, 321 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for all those relationships today. Quote, it's 322 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: got to be about something big than you, and never 323 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: did a team do magical things without everyone being in 324 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks on their twenty eleven NBA championship taught 325 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: us that too. It's funny because KB is coaching down 326 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: in Miami. He had me on a zoom chat and 327 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: I talked about that togetherness that we had on our 328 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: football team, and I was trying to tell his guys, 329 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a good team, you gotta ride 330 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: for each other. You gotta have that connectivity. If you don't, 331 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: then you're not going to be successful. It's got to 332 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: be about something that's bigger than you. And I think 333 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: it got to a point pretty early on in our 334 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: tenure down in Dallas where we realize it's not about 335 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: just the one guy, It's about how we roll as 336 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: a team. 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The whole Tony 372 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Romo to cowbol during the bye week with Jessica sits, 373 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: and they got a lot of play. After we lost 374 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: that divisional round games to the Giants, they went on 375 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Well that's jumping ahead a 376 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: little bit, but yes, thirteen wins during the regular season 377 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: and a top seed led to head coach Wade Phillips 378 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: doing a couple of things that may have thrown things 379 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: a bit askew. One was telling Romo and Witton to 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: get away, you guys, get out of town. So Romo 381 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: and Witton and linebacker Bobby Carpenter did what rich guys do. 382 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: They left and went to Paradise. It wasn't wild parties 383 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: in late nights. It was three guys, two girlfriends, and 384 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: one wife. But the sheer idea of it didn't sit 385 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: right with fans. They wanted their guys in town, in bed, 386 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: on time and focus, by damn, and that little trip, 387 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, tilted things in a manner that hadn't 388 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: been felt in this very special season, and then they lost. 389 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: That to me is the seeing that I lament like. 390 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: I actually talked about it on my radio show today 391 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: and still bothers me to this day, because that was 392 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: the most talented team that I had ever been a 393 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: part of until fall short from our expectations and not 394 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: to realize our potential is one of my biggest wretch 395 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: in all of sports. And this is coming from a 396 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: guy that actually won a championship, So I couldn't imagine 397 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: how the guys that didn't win a championship that were 398 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: on that team feel about it. In talking to many 399 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: from that team, they all felt the same way. They 400 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: had lost a chance for something huge and special, and 401 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: sometimes when you're young, you don't realize how fleeting those 402 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: moments of possible greatness that are right in front of 403 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: you can be. I don't think that that affected the 404 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: way we felt about our team. Now did that affect 405 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: the results moving forward. Yeah, I think they did. I 406 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: really think they did. Like from that point on, it 407 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 1: started to splinter off. You know. I left in free 408 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: agency after the following season, some other guys started moving around, 409 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,120 Speaker 1: going to other places, and it just quite wasn't the same. 410 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: And I remember talking to Jay about that. He said, 411 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: it's just not the same. So it's just not the same, 412 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: you know. It's one of those things that you know, 413 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: when you have a good culture in your locker room, 414 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: you have to protect that. Like as important as talent 415 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: acquisition is in the NFL, the best players don't always 416 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: make the best team, but the best team always wins. 417 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 1: And that's what the two thousand and seven Giants taught us. 418 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: And I truly do believe that we had the character 419 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: and we had the culture in that locker room in 420 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and some of the decisions that 421 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: were made by the front office, by ownership, they weren't 422 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: necessarily decisions that we're in the best interests of maintaining 423 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: and continuing to foster the culture. I think the lack 424 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: of success is the result vary to the point, and 425 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 1: these are the things that drive conversations on radio shows 426 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: and amongst fans every day. Talent is awesome and almost 427 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: always easy to see chemistry and little decisions that get 428 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: made to change things, often or not. For example, the 429 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Carbo trip, the signing of Tara Loans when Bill Parcels 430 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: was against it for the possible ripple effect in the 431 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: locker round, the hiring of Wade Phillips, who was affable 432 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: and kind and everyone's buddy, but maybe a young team 433 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: still needed that hammer that's always looking for a nail. 434 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: That was Bill Parcels. I think that Bill there was 435 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: a method to the madness, you know, and you don't 436 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: appreciate it until you're on the other side of it, 437 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: you know, Guys like Keyshaw when they were there, they 438 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: tried to explain it to us. Keyshawn that Chris is 439 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: talking about his former wide receiver, Great Keyshawn Johnson, whom 440 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels brought in when he came to Dallas. Keyshawn 441 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: Johnson was a former number one overall pick drafted by 442 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: the Jets, and their head coach that drafted him was 443 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels. Keyshawn was a big Bill guy. For others 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: who used to play for Parcels throughout their years were 445 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: also brought in when he came to Dallas. They were 446 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: there to sell the locker room on his methods, which, 447 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: as we have heard and passed stories here on a 448 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 1: cowboy life could be different. Oh hell, let's just say it. 449 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes his methods were strange, weird, or brutal. What he 450 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: was trying to do was forced us to bond together 451 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: as a team. And then eventually he was hoping that 452 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 1: you stood up to him because he knew if you 453 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: would stand up to him, you'll stand up to any 454 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: kind of adversity that you're facing the game. You know, 455 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,959 Speaker 1: you're not going to back down from a tallenge from 456 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: somebody in the game, you know. But if you didn't 457 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: do that, then how can he trust you that you 458 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: were going to be tough enough, that you were going 459 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 1: to fight enough when the game was on the line. 460 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: So it was kind of one of those things where 461 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: it's like he was on you. He was on you. 462 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: He would needle you, he would he would scream at you, 463 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: he would yell at you. But he was also trying 464 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to build you up that way. He was like to 465 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:46,400 Speaker 1: tear you down to build you up. That would Bill, Yes, 466 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: it was, and I only know some of the things 467 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: that he did, but I'll give you a few examples. 468 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: When things are going well for the team, he would 469 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: put mousetraps above everyone's locker. You could see them, complete 470 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: with cheese, and he would tell his team, don't eat 471 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: that cheese. The cheese during the good times would be 472 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: handed out by us media. Guys, when times are good, 473 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: we tend to gush on the players. Thus, don't eat 474 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: their cheese. Other times, he would tell us in the 475 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: leering press things about players or circumstances, because he wanted 476 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: us to go tell the players what he'd said to 477 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: embarrass them a little bit or wake them up, and 478 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: he had us to it so he didn't have to 479 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: for a while. At least his methods were working. Guys 480 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: were responding, at least most of them were. But not 481 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: every young athlete is ready for the hammer tear you 482 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: down to build you up. But Chris he could handle it. 483 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: You know why, It's not a bad thing because you're 484 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: never as soon as you think you are. You're never. 485 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: He's good at you know. Tom Caffer used to always 486 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: say this, and I love he used to staying up 487 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: in front of us. He said, fella, domial mirror, I'm 488 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 1: only telling you what I see. It's your decision to just, 489 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, to figure out what kind of team we're 490 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: gonna beat. It's up to you. I can't control it. 491 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: Can just tell you what I see. And that's what 492 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: Bill was. And you know, Brady, here's the thing about it. 493 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Any player that's worth his soul wants to be coached hard. 494 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Guys want to be coached just like children want different 495 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: even though when they're going through it they hate it. 496 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: That lets them know that the coach actually gives the 497 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: damn about what they're doing, because gives the damn about 498 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: them realizing their potential and being as successful in this 499 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: business as you possibly care. To me, I remember running 500 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: into Bill one day at the Cowboys golf course and 501 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: we talked a little bit, and I asked him what 502 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: was the hardest part about coaching, and he said that 503 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: only about half of the players on NFL teams really 504 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: wanted to play. I looked at him funny, and he said, 505 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: they all want to play on Sunday, but Monday film 506 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: sessions and getting called out, weightlifting every day, monitoring their eating, 507 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: hitting hard in practice, learning the game plan backwards and forwards, 508 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: taking hard coaching even when your feelings were getting hurt 509 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And by the way, he said, 510 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: that stuff is what wins games. That stuff only about 511 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: half of them really wanted. And it often is so 512 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: disappointing to me as a coach because I see guys 513 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: who could be players in this league for a long time, 514 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: some could make Pro Bowls, and they just don't want 515 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: to do the work I only had two years. Would 516 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: Bill Parcells is my favorite coach all the time. He's 517 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: a favorite coach I've ever had because he showed me 518 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: that he gave a dam like there was so much 519 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: attention to it, watching every single rep and talking to 520 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: me about things that I was doing in the game, 521 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: good and bad, like I appreciated it. It's hard to 522 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: have a full appreciation for it until you're removed from 523 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's you know, when certain guys were 524 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: in it, certain certain personalities, it didn't necessarily his approach, 525 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 1: his delivery didn't necessarily go over as well. The young 526 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 1: team that Parcels was sculpting was coming around his first 527 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: year in Dallas. With Quincy Carter at quarterback. The team 528 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: won an unlikely ten games and made the playoffs, and 529 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Bill cried at that press conference and said, you can't 530 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: call them losers anymore. It meant something to him. The 531 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: next year, Wency Carter got cut because he had his 532 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: own personal demons that he just couldn't overcome, and the 533 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys played quarterback roulette. But there was something brewing in 534 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: the background with that kid Romo, and then Canty and 535 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: where and Spears came in the O five draft class 536 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: and things were really moving. Oh six brought the playoffs 537 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: again with Romo now at the helm, but a fumbled 538 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: snap when the team was just about to win the 539 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: game seemed to just kill Bill Parcels. Bill has started 540 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: us out on something and we didn't get a chance 541 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: to see it through with him. With a lot of us, 542 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: we're coming out of this college environment and we're playing 543 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: prominent roles as first year guys in the NFL, so 544 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: we still had a little bit of that college mentality 545 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: where it was like, Okay, this is my coach and 546 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: this is gonna be it. Like he's gonna be my 547 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: coach and that's never gonna change. But in the NFL, 548 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, he staid for not long. So after that 549 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: disappointed loss in the playoffs in two thousand and six, 550 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: up in Seattle, were like, all right, cool, we know 551 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: what the playoffs is like. We're gonna run this back. 552 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna ball out, We're gonna get back to this 553 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: point and we're gonna be that much better because we 554 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: know what this is all about, we know how the 555 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: game changes, we know how we got to get better. 556 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: And then to not have Bill leading us back to 557 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: that that was tough. I vividly remember that press conference 558 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: when I knew Parcels had felt that loss in Seattle 559 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: so deeply that he wouldn't go on Kevin Vernette. Was 560 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: I surprise Bill left. No, I knew Bill was kind 561 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: of on his way out. To the standpoint, the game 562 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: just wasn't the same. Bill Parcels put so much into 563 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: his coaching that as he got older, it almost became 564 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: dangerous for him. You could see his health deteriorating right 565 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: in kind of our eyes on a daily basis. And 566 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: to be fair, he was also absolutely wearing everyone out 567 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: in the Cowboys front office. He was tough to be around, 568 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: but the players, as you can hear, loved him. Here's 569 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: Tony Romo want to Bill to come back. At that time, 570 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: I go into his office with Jason and I said, coach, 571 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: you have to stay. He's like, now, guys, you're gonna 572 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: be fine. It's gonna be great. Enjoy coaching, and he had, Dad, 573 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: I feel bad that I let you down, but I 574 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: can promise you I'm going to be a different player 575 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: going forward. Trust me, you want to stick around. I 576 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: think he thought he got the best out of our team. 577 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: Maybe he could. He's like, it's gonna be so hard 578 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: to get our team back to that level, but I'm done. 579 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Just it's time. Two thousand and seven, Yeah, we were 580 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: thirteen and three, number one seed in the NFC. But 581 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: if Bill Parcels is our coach, there's no telling how 582 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: that season might have ended, because I have no doubt 583 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: you had a cup or team physically, mentally, and emotionally. 584 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: Not to say anything bad about Wade, because Wade is 585 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: a good play coach, but Bill Parcels on another level. 586 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips was a great defensive mind. He was a 587 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: pretty good head coach too. His record was eighty two 588 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: and sixty four in regular season games, but he had 589 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: never won a playoff game as a head coach in 590 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo with the Bills or in Denver with the Broncos. 591 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: When the Cowboys took on the Giants as a top 592 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: seed in the two thousand and seven playoffs, Bill Parcels 593 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: he was proven. He'd won eleven postseason games, including two 594 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. In every way, Bill Parcels and Wade Phillips 595 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: were different, and the players felt it. Wade's genius was 596 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: in his abilitious scheme on the defensive side of football. Right, Yeah, 597 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: that was Wade genius. But here's the saying. This is 598 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: a misconception that a lot of people have. If you're 599 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: a coach in the NFL, you got good schemes, that's 600 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: not what's gonna separate you from the rest of the competition. 601 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: It's about getting grown men to do what they don't 602 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: want to do so they can become what they want 603 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: to become. And different coaches have different ways of being 604 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: able to sell guys on that, but that's what it 605 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: becomes about. How can you sell the group of men 606 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: that you have on doing what it takes to become 607 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: a champion. How can you get them to sacrifice individual 608 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: glory for the betterment of the team. Wade's players loved them, 609 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: especially the defensive players, because he made them better and 610 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: he got them to Pro Bowls, but it was visible 611 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: to everyone as that successful two thousand season progressed that 612 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: the fear and motivation that Parcels had brought out in 613 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: these same young cowboys was dissipating. The inmates were beginning 614 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: to run the asylum. They were reading their own press clippings. 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After that lost in Seattle, we really felt like, 657 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: as a group it was time for us to take off, 658 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: you know. And I remember Bill telling me my rookie year. 659 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: He said, I usually only give a guy three years 660 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,479 Speaker 1: to show me what he got. By year three, yet 661 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: show me anything. No, I'm going to move in a 662 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: different direction. So for me personally, he was like, all right, 663 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: this is year three. Even though Bill's not here what 664 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: he believes, I'm sure a lot of other people around 665 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: the NFL beliague if I'm gonna maximize his career, if 666 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some longevity playing football, that I got 667 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: to make some pay this year. And I think a 668 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: lot of guys in my draft class felt that same way. 669 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: It was a breakout year for all of them. Indeed, 670 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: it was that two thousand and seventeen under Wade Phillips 671 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: sent thirteen players of the Pro Bowl, a massive number, 672 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: and five of them were all Pro. There were gaudy 673 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: statistics all over the Cowboys roster when the regular season ended, 674 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: plus there were thirteen wins. They were good from the beginning, 675 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: well almost to the end. It didn't surprise me that 676 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: we started off the way that we did. We got 677 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: third a flight to humble Pie when the Patriots rolled 678 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: in there, but that's one of the greatest football teams 679 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: that was ever assembled. We knew we were going to 680 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: be good. You see, this group felt like they had 681 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: an unfinished business after losing on a bad break to 682 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: Seattle in the playoffs in OH six. So even if 683 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: Bill Parcels wouldn't stick around to see if they were good, 684 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: the players knew they were. And the regular season lost 685 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: to the Patriots and week number six after starting five, 686 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: and oh, it didn't kill their spirit. It galvanized it. 687 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: People were counting at the potential Super Bowl preview, but 688 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: we were like, we're gonna see these guys again. So 689 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: we weren't gonna linger on that. We were just like, 690 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: let's just roll everybody else, take care of our business 691 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: and make sure that we improve in the areas that 692 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: we need to. We're gonna see these guys again. So 693 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: five and zero and then five and one with a 694 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: loss to Brady Moss and the Patriots, but no heads 695 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: were down. And I know that because they won their 696 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: next seven games and went to twelve and one, and 697 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: there was an especially big game during that run. The 698 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: Green Bay game was a big game. We kicked their 699 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: teeth in it. That was an ass kicking top to bottom. 700 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: Matter of fact, we not read far about that game. 701 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: That was actually my first time praying against Aaron Rodgers. 702 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: I was like, this is gonna be pretty good. When 703 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: they hand the reins off to him, that was probably 704 00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: the last time we felt good about our form top 705 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: to bottom. So great news on kicking good Packer team 706 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 1: all over the field, but not good news in that 707 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: it was your last complete game before the playoffs because 708 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: the playoffs were still five weeks away. We beat Green 709 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Bade the way that we beat them, I was just like, Yeah, 710 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: we're going to the super Bowl. Is going to come 711 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: down to us in the patients see that statement is 712 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: what I felt in the locker room twelve and wanting 713 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: you just beat a good team and everyone's sort of 714 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: like we're good, which also had me worried about a letdown. 715 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,800 Speaker 1: This is where Parcels really would have helped with his 716 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: tricks and jabs and ways to keep the team focused 717 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: and on edge and not comfortable and entitled. We lost 718 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: to Philly was kind of like, all right, it sucks, 719 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: but we know we're going to be the number one seed. 720 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: So it was just a matter of as getting everything 721 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: toomed up and getting ready for the postseason. There was 722 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: that thing again, we lost and it sucks, but it'll 723 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: be okay. And then they squeaked by a bad Carolina 724 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 1: team in week fifteen, then rested everyone in week sixteen 725 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: and got blasted, so from twelve and one to losing 726 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: two of their last three and then a buy week, 727 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: and that wasn't good either, because the Giants, they'd never 728 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: stopped playing their playoffs, seemingly started in week twelve just 729 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, and New York just kept 730 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: getting better and playing, and they had momentum, especially on 731 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: that brutally good defense. Losing in the playoffs, especially to 732 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: a team like the New York Giants, Like we couldn't 733 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: even fathom that, Like that wasn't even on our radar. 734 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: We weren't playing great ball. Yeah who we were? Yeah, 735 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: we had talked about it, but we weren't doing it. 736 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: I remember, I could feel it. But in some ways 737 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: it seemed unlucky, Like clinching early was really unlucky. Getting 738 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: your biggest win in week thirteen when there were four 739 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: weeks left was too soon. And then there were nagging 740 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: injuries as well. Kevin Burnett, what happened in the season. 741 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: We just couldn't correct our problems fast enough. We were 742 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: a good football team that had holes. They had some 743 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,240 Speaker 1: holes that needed to be figured out before the playoffs 744 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: and when the play half game versus the Giants came around, well, 745 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips had made some changes, and he changed some things, 746 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: but not things that needed to be changed. It seemed 747 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: like taking Julius Jones out of the starting lineup at 748 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: running back, well, why as he started this game we 749 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: had a good thing going. It was Julius Jone that 750 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: was kind of tender rising him and then Marian would 751 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: close the game and Marion's physical running style was perfect 752 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 1: for being a closer, but we kind of did it 753 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: backwards that we opened the door for the Giant. You know, 754 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 1: it's one of those cliches in football. You throw the 755 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: score and you run the win, and when you have 756 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: a lead, especially against a team like the Giants, second half, 757 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: we should have been focused on trying to take the 758 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: air out of the football. Without getting too detailed about 759 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 1: what happened at running back during the year, Marion Barber 760 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: was the closer. He averaged twelve and a half carries 761 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 1: a game in the regular season and scored twelve tds 762 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: and played mostly in the second half. Julius Jones average 763 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: nine carries a game and about seventy five percent of 764 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: those runs were in the first half. And now it 765 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: had all changed. Marion Barber had a nice first half 766 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: versus the Giants, over one hundred yards in the first half, 767 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 1: but on twenty two carries, and he was dead on 768 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: his feet in the second half against the fired up, 769 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: really good Giants defense that smelled blood. T O was 770 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 1: hobbled and Terry Glenn was gutting through an injury that 771 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: he'd had for weeks. Julius Jones got three carries total. 772 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: The second half was a defensive struggle. The Giants won 773 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: seven to three, and just like that, just that quickly, 774 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: the air was completely gone out of Texas Stadium and 775 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: a great season was over. Here's the thing. We were 776 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: in the locker room at half time. We're like, all right, 777 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: fourteen fourteen, let's stop dicking around. Let's play off. We 778 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: hadn't played our best football. We're gonna turn it on 779 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: in the second half. But the problem with that mentality 780 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: is it's not a light switch. You can't just turn 781 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: it on and off. In the regular season, it felt 782 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: like they could. They won games late all the time, 783 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: but the playoffs are a whole different animal. And that 784 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: animal that they faced in the New York Giants was 785 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: hungry and relishing the fight. And the New York Giants 786 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: had been in playoff mode for the last five or 787 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: six of the week to the season, and we weren't. 788 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: So they had a level of desperation, a level of 789 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: urgency that we just didn't have. And that's why when 790 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: we came out from halftime, you could tell the way 791 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 1: that the game was unfolding, the complexion of it. It 792 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be our day. You absolutely could feel 793 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: that the Giants were starting to have fun. They were smiling, 794 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: they were wreaking havoc. The Cowboys were on their heels. 795 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: They looked desperate and like they could feel that momentum 796 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: was going the wrong way, but they couldn't do anything 797 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: about it. And there was a huge play in this game, 798 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. It almost turned out, but it didn't. Y'all 799 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: probably remember a third down midfield or so that was 800 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: to keep a drive going, Romo flipped his hips and 801 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: got away. He went to left and a huge defensive 802 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: lineman was in front of him and he threw underneath 803 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: his armpit. It was a strike to Pat Creighton and 804 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: he might have gone all the way to the end zone, 805 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: but he dropped the pass. Romo said after the game 806 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: that the ball had come from such a weird place 807 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: that he knew it would be tough for Pat to sea, 808 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: and that was it. It was huge because we knew 809 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: at that moment we lost, but we knew it when 810 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: we didn't get that big conversion that we probably weren't 811 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna win that game. And after so many times of 812 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: being on the right side of those types of players 813 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: all year long, to be on the wrong side of it. 814 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: That was tough. These seasons are so long. They are 815 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: a journey, a winding road, and there's plenty of luck involved, 816 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: timing of injuries, timing of big plays that you make. 817 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: Drop passes in week five, they don't feel huge. In 818 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: the division round of the playoffs, they punch you in 819 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 1: the gut because you're having trouble breathing already. It was devastation. 820 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: It was so real, like he was like, we're not done. 821 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: We got a game this week, don't we It's like, nah, 822 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: the season's over you Yeah. And then you got t 823 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: O cling in the press room about the criticism on 824 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: Tony Romo and how that's unfair. You guys can point 825 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: the finger at him, you can talk about the vacation, 826 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: and if you do that, it's really unfair. It's really unfair. 827 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: It's my team, it's my quarterback. Terall Owens knew it 828 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 1: was a team effort that the passing game had failed. 829 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: He had four catches on ten balls thrown his way 830 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: one TD early in the game, Terry Glenn was hobbling. 831 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: He was basically a decoy. The two of them only 832 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: caught six of the fifteen balls thrown their way. The 833 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: Giants took away within in the second half, and they 834 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: terrorized Romo because the running game was gassed after the 835 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: first half. We all knew there was blamed to go around. 836 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 1: It was rough man like that was. That was one 837 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: of them, Like you knew it when it happened. You 838 00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: know a lot of times people say, well, when you're 839 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: a young player, you don't take advantage opportunities to win 840 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 1: a championship. You don't really worry about it, or it 841 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,800 Speaker 1: doesn't get you. That's not true. In that moment, we 842 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 1: all knew we cost ourselves a chance to win a title. 843 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: That giant team ten times, we're gonna beat him at 844 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: least seven. The weight of thirteen years without a championship 845 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: for Dallas was on that team, and it got heavier 846 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: as the season wound down. Everybody in that locker room 847 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: knew they were really good and they were supposed to win, 848 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: but they also knew the world was expecting them to win. 849 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,920 Speaker 1: It is the crazy things. A lot of those guys 850 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 1: I called teammates later on in my career, and even 851 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't figure out how that happened. They told me 852 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: they couldn't figure it out. Right, You guys were the 853 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: better team. They knew you were the better team. They 854 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: knew you had the more talented tficy. That's the thing, right, 855 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,279 Speaker 1: We were the more talented team, but they were more 856 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 1: av team. They had that cohesion, those intangibles that you 857 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: need to win at the highest levels in this game. 858 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: They had it. We didn't. So as a fan you 859 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: begin to wonder why, why if you could feel those 860 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: intangibles going missing, that cohesion going a way, why didn't 861 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: somebody do something. Well, I'll tell you this. When you're 862 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: entering the playoffs, there are now thirty weeks behind you. 863 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: Who you are as a team is mostly decided by now, 864 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: and in those moments you need your heroes to bail 865 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: you out. Hero showed up on the giant side of 866 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: the ball. Chris didn't really realize all this until well 867 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: he was a giant a couple of years later, and 868 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 1: you could really define that once you got there and 869 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 1: met them. Oh yeah, when you're a part of it. 870 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely strange, isn't it, But understandable. You think about what happened. 871 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: But when you get into the enemy camp and they 872 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: tell you what happened and what they were thinking about 873 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,560 Speaker 1: themselves and about you, it all becomes clear why you 874 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: didn't win. And then Chris was a Giant in two 875 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: and twelve, and he and his team knew exactly how 876 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: to handle adversity deep into that season and all the 877 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 1: way through the playoffs. We lost four straight games that season, 878 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: and we all banded together and we went on a 879 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: hell of a run one I think we won six 880 00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: straight games, had to win two to get in. Won 881 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 1: a division, destroyed Atlanta, destroyed Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers 882 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: was shifteen in one, went out to San Francisco and 883 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: beat their ass in overtime, and then we won the 884 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl against the Patriots. Nobody thought we were gonna win. Well, 885 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: that's the damn truth. The Patriots were once again a 886 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: top seed at thirteen and three, and they win super Bowls. 887 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: They know how. The Giants went nine and seven and 888 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: squeaked their way into a wildcard game again, only they 889 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: actually came in hot because they had been playing for 890 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: their lives again. There was a local news out left 891 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Bruce Beck NBC, and 892 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 1: he got a sound bite for me. He asked me, 893 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: what could you what can we expect on Super Bowl Sunday? 894 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: And I told him. I said the fans back home 895 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: can expect a tough, hard fought game and tell them 896 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: they need to get ready for a parade on Tuesday. 897 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I essentially guaranteed a super Bowl win. That's 898 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: how confident we were because we had that, that lightning 899 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: in a bottle that everybody talks about. We had that, 900 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 1: and when you're a part of it, it's it's hard 901 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: to explain it, but you know when you're in it. 902 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: And I felt that it was different than any other 903 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: feeling I'd had, any scheme I'd ever been on. You know. 904 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: I told Chris that I remember being so happy for 905 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: him that he'd won a super Bowl, and he cut 906 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: me off mid sentence and he said, this, Brady, I'll 907 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: always look back when seven and it'll always hurt. It'll 908 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: always hurt. Oh it's I wish I had a chance 909 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: to do it with the guys that I came in with, 910 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: because that was our goal, and we committed to that 911 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,279 Speaker 1: for the four years that we were all together. A 912 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: cowboy to the end. Chris Canty played eleven years in 913 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: the NFL and he won a super Bowl, but he 914 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 1: was only a cowboy for his first four years. But 915 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: you can hear it in his voice. Once a cowboy, 916 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: especially with that special rookie group he was drafted with. 917 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: Always a Cowboy. Thanks to Kevin Burnett and Tony Romo 918 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: for chiming in, and especially to Chris Canty. Thanks Chris 919 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: for telling us about your cowboy life.