Speaker 1: So what I'm gonna say that I don't want to
Speaker 1: come across wrong is I don't think you are saved.
Speaker 1: I don't think you're a Christian. Hey, welcome back to
Speaker 1: the podcast, y'all, second week in a row, our friend,
Speaker 1: the best guest ever besides Chad and Parker and Bernie Calcot,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show. We answer your questions on
Speaker 1: this show. If you have a question, Grangersmith podcast at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com, and we answer it. And Bernie's on
Speaker 1: here because he's really great at empathizing and thinking and
Speaker 1: giving me a solid answer for things in my life.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna do our best. Like we're
Speaker 1: sitting in the cap of a truck answering questions about
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 2: Not always right most of the time, honest, And we're
Speaker 2: prepping for a live recording.
Speaker 1: So what do y'all think about that doing this live,
Speaker 1: live podcast taping where you asked the questions in real time.
Speaker 1: We're on a stage somewhere. Maybe we travel to a
Speaker 1: few different cities and we answer your questions there. What
Speaker 1: would y'all think about that? Would you show up? And
Speaker 1: what city should we go to?
Speaker 2: And would you be as honest in person as you are,
Speaker 2: because there's some very honest, vulnerable questions that come through.
Speaker 1: Yeah anonymously, Yeah, anonymously.
Speaker 2: So would you be willing to do it?
Speaker 3: It would be awesome interesting.
Speaker 2: How would you respond if you asked a question and
Speaker 2: Granger just looked at you as like, dumper, what are
Speaker 2: you doing?
Speaker 1: Let's move on, don't drink, quit it, stop it, okay?
Speaker 3: First question here?
Speaker 1: The subject line says goals, and it says, hey, Granger,
Speaker 1: thanks for all you do. I am single and content,
Speaker 1: but obviously would like to find a relationship. I'm wondering
Speaker 1: as a single person if I find the right person.
Speaker 1: Should that be treated as a goal as in something
Speaker 1: you passively work towards daily, as in like a checklist,
Speaker 1: like talk to a girl, talk to at least three girls,
Speaker 1: ask for their number, actively spend time on dating site,
Speaker 1: research qualities that will help me be attractive, etc. Or
Speaker 1: is this just desperate in relation to leaning on God's
Speaker 1: timing and waiting for the right person to show up
Speaker 1: in my life without seeking them out at all? Thanks
Speaker 1: David twenty or excuse me thirty one Arkansas PS.
Speaker 3: Got a ticket to your Tulsa show?
Speaker 2: Hot ticket Why are you grinning so much as.
Speaker 3: You read that question? Because I feel you.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're looking at me while I'm reading. Oh,
Speaker 1: and David is just I'm grinned because David is just
Speaker 1: so honest and he's so sincere, and Dave wants to
Speaker 1: David wants a girl.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair everything he's asking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is fair.
Speaker 1: He wants a girl, and he's sincere about that, and
Speaker 1: he's willing to say, Unlike a lot of people, he's
Speaker 1: willing to say, what's it gonna take?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm going to take it that David
Speaker 2: is type a kind of like me. So I need
Speaker 2: I need a list, I need a plan, I need
Speaker 2: like a we need to be actively doing this. I
Speaker 2: think my brain tends to maybe work the same way.
Speaker 2: So I I think it's fair. I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: wait to hear what you say the advice to him.
Speaker 1: Okay, sure, I at least David, I feel you, buddy.
Speaker 1: All right, so Bernie, you could follow up. I'll just
Speaker 1: kind of shoot from the hip here. You let me
Speaker 1: let me ask. Let me look at two things.
Speaker 3: That you ask.
Speaker 1: Basically, you asked, should I treat finding a person as
Speaker 1: a goal that I work on daily like a checklist.
Speaker 1: And then the second question you asked is or should
Speaker 1: I just wait, lean on God's timing and wait for
Speaker 1: the right person to show up without seeking them out.
Speaker 1: Those are two opposite endes of the spectrum here, and
Speaker 1: so I want to kind of point out first of all,
Speaker 1: that you're not really thinking about middle ground here.
Speaker 3: You're asking two opposite questions, and I.
Speaker 1: Think the answer in life always is in the middle
Speaker 1: for everything, and you are you're kind of looking at
Speaker 1: extremes and let me look at the God thing real quick.
Speaker 1: Leaning on God's timing and waiting for the right person
Speaker 1: to show up without seeking them is not biblical in
Speaker 1: the sense that the Bible is always going to give
Speaker 1: us humans a responsibility of something to do. So there's
Speaker 1: always through every command that through through all of God's
Speaker 1: sovereignty meaning his total control, his providence meaning his understanding
Speaker 1: of the future, and in our lives and everything and
Speaker 1: every hair on our head and every day that we
Speaker 1: have left on our life, there's also a sense of
Speaker 1: responsibility that we we have on top of that providence
Speaker 1: to respond, to act, to follow, to stand up, to
Speaker 1: take up your mat and and follow So, so we
Speaker 1: know for a fact that sitting waiting on God and
Speaker 1: not doing anything is wrong.
Speaker 3: The opposite is wrong.
Speaker 1: Too, saying God, I'm gonna take this into my own
Speaker 1: hands and handle all of this. Okay, So where's the middle?
Speaker 1: Where's the middle? How How do we as a mature
Speaker 1: Christian responsibly handle the middle ground? Where we trust, we believe,
Speaker 1: and we also act as a response to our belief.
Speaker 1: We act with our responsibility as a response of the grace. Okay,
Speaker 1: that could be applied to everything in your life, including
Speaker 1: finding a girl.
Speaker 3: So you believe that you.
Speaker 1: Believe, not that there's a girl, or not that you
Speaker 1: will be married or you will have but you believe
Speaker 1: that God has a purpose for your life. And there's
Speaker 1: a there's a good chance that that purpose is is
Speaker 1: going to include a girl. But not it's not, it's
Speaker 1: not exactly true. You just know that He has a
Speaker 1: purpose for you in some way. So you trust that first,
Speaker 1: and you go, God, I'm gonna lean on you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna trust you. I'm gonna read your word, I'm gonna study,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna surround myself with wi It's counsel. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: implant myself in a church. I'm gonna become a member.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna become actively involved in the church. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in a small group. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: with other men. I'm gonna be learning and soaking in
Speaker 1: as they teach me, as I dive into your word.
Speaker 1: And then and then I'm gonna when I'm doing that,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna also be cognizant of my desires around me.
Speaker 1: Like do I see a girl throwing this out? I
Speaker 1: see a girl at the grocery store, and I see
Speaker 1: her there every Monday, and I'm really attracted to her,
Speaker 1: and I'm also really into God's world right now, then
Speaker 1: I would pay attention that God puts desires in her
Speaker 1: heart like that gives us the desires of her heart,
Speaker 1: as in gives us new wants and desires. And so
Speaker 1: we paid and then we act on that. We act
Speaker 1: on the girl in the grocery store, and we say, hey,
Speaker 1: I see you here every Monday in the vegetable aisle.
Speaker 1: I like cantalope too. I thought that was funny. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm a little awkward, but I live down the street.
Speaker 1: I noticed you walk here. Maybe one day, we can
Speaker 1: grab coffee or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's acting on.
Speaker 1: God's providence because of your trust.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna stop and let Bernie go.
Speaker 2: No, I think everything you're saying is right on. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I
Speaker 2: have this analogy or metaphor whatever you want to say,
Speaker 2: but it may be absolutely terrible, but I'm gonna throw
Speaker 2: it out there anyway. So but I know there's people listening,
Speaker 2: like to fish, right, So let's say we go out
Speaker 2: to fish, and we decide to put some peanut butter
Speaker 2: and jelly sandwiches on our hook. We put it out there. Okay,
Speaker 2: we're gonna catch maybe some seaweed, not much, right, but
Speaker 2: then we have some live bait. Put that on there.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I think what Granger's saying is, if you the dating
Speaker 2: apps and things that you can take into your your
Speaker 2: own control to try to force, this is gonna be
Speaker 2: the peanut butter and jelly sandwich you're putting on your hook.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna catch anything, and if you do catch anything,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be what you want. But if you
Speaker 2: are just trying your best to be obedient, stay in
Speaker 2: God's word and walk in the path each day he
Speaker 2: has for you. He's gonnaly never say hey, put this
Speaker 2: on your hook. Put it out there, and what you
Speaker 2: catch is gonna be what you want.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I love David.
Speaker 1: I love your type a personality, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to put some live bait on that hook man, because
Speaker 1: you were. I bet your peanut butter sandwich that you're
Speaker 1: casting also has the crust cut off of it, like
Speaker 1: perfectly in the squares.
Speaker 3: Man, And I appreciate the effort.
Speaker 1: That looks cool if it's a brand new hook you
Speaker 1: got at bass pro shops and you hooked it right
Speaker 1: through the middle of that peanut butter in jail, and
Speaker 1: it's probably like crunchy peanut butter, like perfectly measured out
Speaker 1: and everything. The effort is amazing. It's really admirable, but
Speaker 1: it ain't.
Speaker 3: Gonna catch anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think one thing you said just about aiming
Speaker 2: for the middle, that's a good word for me, for everybody.
Speaker 2: We tend to kind of see things polarized, but it's
Speaker 2: like most of the time we need to kind of
Speaker 2: think about the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So David, maybe aim towards the middle, Buddy, next question, guys,
Speaker 1: let me just say this. I don't know what's coming
Speaker 1: at me. We don't have notes in front of us.
Speaker 1: We don't have like a list of famous quotes from
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln or something that we're gonna throw out. You're
Speaker 1: gonna hear these questions as I hear them, subject line
Speaker 1: work life balance.
Speaker 3: Hey, Grandeur.
Speaker 1: First off, like to say thank you for your example.
Speaker 1: I have learned a lot from listening to your podcast
Speaker 1: as well as other forms of media with you and
Speaker 1: your family. Your podcast has really helped show me the
Speaker 1: need for me to be daily reading my Bible in
Speaker 1: order to grow my faith. Through that daily reading, it's
Speaker 1: helped me grow tremendously. My question is this, it's about
Speaker 1: work life balance. As a man of faith, I see
Speaker 1: a need for me to be present in my home
Speaker 1: to nurture my family. But I know it's awesome my
Speaker 1: responsibility to provide for my family. My dad owns his
Speaker 1: own business and always worked a lot to provide for us,
Speaker 1: which I don't take for granted because he missed out
Speaker 1: on a lot while we were growing up. My worry
Speaker 1: is that if I follow in his footsteps, the same
Speaker 1: will be true for me. I trust in God's plan
Speaker 1: and pray for his guidance daily. But I want to
Speaker 1: seek wise counsel as well. With all the things that
Speaker 1: you have going on. Would you have some advice to
Speaker 1: give on this? I look forward to hearing your answer.
Speaker 1: For privacy reasons, I prefer to stay us. A great question, anonymous,
Speaker 1: very very thoughtful question. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. It sounds like his heart's in
Speaker 2: the right spot.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was at a was at a conference with Mark
Speaker 1: Dever as he was speaking and people were asking questions
Speaker 1: and he was answering questions recently, and somebody asked a question.
Speaker 1: I don't remember what it was about, but Mark's answer was, brother,
Speaker 1: if you're even asking that question, you're gonna be just fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 3: You know that's good. I said that to this guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, brother, if you're even thinking about this, you're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine. You're gonna nurture your family, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a great dad, and you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Provide for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's the people that don't think through it that get
Speaker 1: into the problem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no right or wrong answer. It's no secret
Speaker 3: sauce to this.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think practically, do we got time for break?
Speaker 3: Sure? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: I think practically just I think having some boundaries in
Speaker 2: place ahead of time. If you're thinking about work life balance,
Speaker 2: I think it's really good to be present and Grangeery
Speaker 2: and I have talked about this a lot, just in
Speaker 2: every moment possible, just being as present and here now
Speaker 2: as we possibly can. But what that also means is
Speaker 2: that you have set boundaries in place and provision for
Speaker 2: your family that when you are at work you can
Speaker 2: be completely present and doing the best work possible. There's
Speaker 2: going to be so much value in that that you're
Speaker 2: probably going to not have to work, you know, fifty
Speaker 2: sixty hours a week in order to provide for your family.
Speaker 2: I think that's something that we our culture as a
Speaker 2: whole kind of like gets away from. We just think, oh,
Speaker 2: I guess you got to work a lot, instead of like, well,
Speaker 2: what if we did really quality, focused work in a
Speaker 2: shorter amount of time and then we got to go
Speaker 2: home and focus completely on our family. Both sides of
Speaker 2: the coin are going to just gain a lot more
Speaker 2: value and nurturing and provision from that. So if you
Speaker 2: can set those boundaries in place now and then when
Speaker 2: once you start to like kind of bump up against them,
Speaker 2: have some accountability in somebody that knows like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is this is what I put in place for
Speaker 2: this reason, and maybe that means that I don't make
Speaker 2: that bonus or I don't get that one projector and
Speaker 2: that's okay. Yeah, like we have to we have to
Speaker 2: like have contentment first and then make your your boundaries
Speaker 2: around that and then try to stick to them. So
Speaker 2: just some practical I don't know if it's helpful, man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the struggle what Bernie's saying, and the reason there's
Speaker 1: no secret sauce to this, and it matters more of
Speaker 1: your heart position to it. The reason we're saying that
Speaker 1: is because your idea of providing for your family, or
Speaker 1: your idea of time home with the family is it's
Speaker 1: just not defined. It's just so subjective. For instance, if
Speaker 1: you have a second grade education and you have two
Speaker 1: felonies and you've served prison time and you're raising a
Speaker 1: family post all this, and you get an offer for
Speaker 1: really good money to go out on an oil rig
Speaker 1: in the Gulf of Mexico for six months, you would
Speaker 1: not at that point say, eh, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: kind of like to be around my family. It's like, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you're in a desperate situation. This is a great opportunity
Speaker 1: for you. You need to take this opportunity to get
Speaker 1: this good money, and you're gonna be gone. That's a
Speaker 1: sacrifice you have to make in your situation. And the
Speaker 1: same would be on the opposite, say you're doing really
Speaker 1: well and you're continuing to work too hard and take
Speaker 1: too many opportunities and you're not home enough. That would
Speaker 1: be irresponsible the other way, right, And you could also
Speaker 1: be irresponsible in a way that you're just home too
Speaker 1: much and things are not getting paid for. So it's
Speaker 1: just very nuanced. It's just not a right or wrong answer.
Speaker 1: The heart is the most important. You want to be
Speaker 1: present at work. You want to be president at home.
Speaker 1: You want to make sure that you're raising a household
Speaker 1: that understands that Dad has to work, because you don't
Speaker 1: want to raise a house that thinks Dad's most important
Speaker 1: priority is to not work and to be with me
Speaker 1: and catch the football when I need to throw the football.
Speaker 1: It's bad too, right, Just be careful you're thinking through this.
Speaker 3: I love your question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're going to be all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah's hit another long fought battles to subject line and
Speaker 1: it says I've been married for twelve years. My wife
Speaker 1: came with two kids from a previous marriage. They are
Speaker 1: now seventeen and nineteen. We have two younger kids together,
Speaker 1: three and eight. She has struggled with mental health issues
Speaker 1: for the past six years. It has caused our kids
Speaker 1: to check out of their relationship and will certainly cause
Speaker 1: our younger kids to eventually do the same. Have sought
Speaker 1: godly counsel lower case G and we are now on
Speaker 1: our fourth counselor. The counselors are all professionals. Most importantly,
Speaker 1: they are there to help here and helped turn around
Speaker 1: our marriage. She has gone as an individual and then
Speaker 1: we would get together and tie things back together, so
Speaker 1: to speak. Unfortunately, she's not made much of any progress.
Speaker 1: She has ruined all of her relationships with her friends
Speaker 1: as well. This has been sad for me as a
Speaker 1: bystander to watch all this occur. It puts me in
Speaker 1: a negative vibe in our household. I prayed for her
Speaker 1: in everything that I can, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, I cannot bridge the gap and make up
Speaker 1: for what she lacks in our relationship or for our kids.
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? Thanks for reading? Okay, so no.
Speaker 2: Real question other than what are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just kind of respond to the situation here, married
Speaker 1: twelve years, two kids from the previous marriage that are
Speaker 1: in the upper teens, and then younger kids. Two younger
Speaker 1: kids together. So the problem is looking like with the
Speaker 1: older kids, it's really the question two older kids have
Speaker 1: checked out and to two younger kids might do the same.
Speaker 1: You're doing a lot if you're putting the work in
Speaker 1: with these counselor things. You're on the fourth one, and
Speaker 1: first thing I want to say to you, besides thanks
Speaker 1: for your vulnerability, is the first thing I want to
Speaker 1: say is I get it.
Speaker 3: These older kids have checked out. I get it.
Speaker 1: Mom's got mental health. She remarried and had two more kids.
Speaker 1: And I say this with the most respect to you.
Speaker 1: Mom had two replacement kids. You know, Mom replaced us
Speaker 1: with two kids with the new guy. All respect to you.
Speaker 1: When I say that, I'm just kind of speaking from
Speaker 1: a seventeen year old mind what that could look like.
Speaker 1: Mom's a little crazy, She's in counseling all the time. Listen,
Speaker 1: this needs to be said too. When you're seventeen and nineteen,
Speaker 1: you're kind of checked out anyway. Let's not forget that
Speaker 1: part of it. You could be a seventeen year old
Speaker 1: checked out of a great home. So what I think
Speaker 1: we should ask a question for him?
Speaker 3: What do you do? He didn't say that. What do
Speaker 3: you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: If you're this guy in this situation, you're the stepdad
Speaker 1: of two upper teens that have checked out, your wife's
Speaker 1: having mental problems, You've gone through counselors, you've seen all
Speaker 1: of her friends disappear, and you got two younger kids,
Speaker 1: very vulnerable, ages three and eight.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So a couple things jump out. First thing is
Speaker 2: just a ton of like empathy and heartbreak. Man, I
Speaker 2: hate that you're in this. I hate this for the
Speaker 2: the mom, I hate it for the kids. Man, this
Speaker 2: is just part of our broken world and having to,
Speaker 2: you know, walk through these kind of really difficult, hard situations.
Speaker 2: And so, man, I think grizz and I both kind
Speaker 2: of heart breaks for you just having to sit in
Speaker 2: this and recognize, just as humans in this world, what
Speaker 2: we all have to endure, how nuanced it can be.
Speaker 2: But also you know how similar we are. The second
Speaker 2: thing that jumped out was these older kids have been
Speaker 2: through divorce, and being someone that went through divorce, I
Speaker 2: don't know if we recognize the trauma that that can cause.
Speaker 2: I don't know how early in childhood that happened, and
Speaker 2: I mean I guess it's at least eight years ago
Speaker 2: if they have a three to eight year old, right, so,
Speaker 2: which is a very you know, formative time for those kids.
Speaker 1: Some math, they've been married for twelve the kids are seventeen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: three and eight, so so yeah, that they got divorced
Speaker 1: when the kids were five and seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I don't just speaking quickly before we you know,
Speaker 2: get to you like, those those older kids probably need
Speaker 2: a lot of love and a lot of attention and
Speaker 2: a lot of grace if they've checked out, like Granger said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean most of them do at that age. But
Speaker 2: continuing to walk alongside them, especially as a stepdad, and
Speaker 2: just be like and you know, sit in there in
Speaker 2: there hurt with them, Like, man, I know that that
Speaker 2: must have been hard to have your dad. If you've
Speaker 2: never done that before, maybe you have, But yeah, like
Speaker 2: I said, just being somebody that went through that, I
Speaker 2: think that there is residual effects that they may not
Speaker 2: even be aware of quite yet. And so if you
Speaker 2: could just view them with that level of grace and
Speaker 2: be able to maybe step into that, I think that
Speaker 2: that would help. Especially if their mom is mentally not well,
Speaker 2: she's probably not caring for them in that relationship in
Speaker 2: a way.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 1: So when when did your parents get divorced?
Speaker 2: When were you Whenever? I was fourteen, but my dad
Speaker 2: had left when I was nine, they separated.
Speaker 3: So did you have a checkout period in your life
Speaker 3: for sure? Yeah?
Speaker 2: It started at fourteen. Yeah, because my dad. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's a little bit different. My dad had left and
Speaker 2: whenever I was nine, and I thought like, okay, this
Speaker 2: is they're separated whatever. But then he came back and
Speaker 2: it was kind of like my parents got back together,
Speaker 2: and I was like there was this hope and then
Speaker 2: they satis down to games like I'm leaving this time
Speaker 2: and it's for good, and then it was just like, okay,
Speaker 2: well I'm I'm checking out for sure. So yeah, I
Speaker 2: would say fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, all the way till
Speaker 2: the Lord you know, got me at twenty one.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so the guy, so you anonymous, man, this
Speaker 1: is not a. This is not a crazy, rare situation.
Speaker 1: What we're seeing is just the natural result of the
Speaker 1: fall of a broken marriage. And so let's just throw
Speaker 1: out a couple of things that he can do. And
Speaker 1: so I want to you mentioned God a few times,
Speaker 1: you mentioned prayer a few times. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure that you're plugged in to a good local church.
Speaker 1: I love that you're emailing this podcast and you're seeking,
Speaker 1: as you said, you know, counsel from us, but I
Speaker 1: also want to see that not just from a counselor
Speaker 1: from a like a counseling firm, or like an organization
Speaker 1: that does counseling, but I want to see that happen
Speaker 1: within the local church itself, because I believe it or not,
Speaker 1: that's what they're there for, is to walk with their
Speaker 1: congregation through life's difficult problems so that they're not alone.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna always give you an answer, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna walk with you and God.
Speaker 3: As we know that God.
Speaker 1: Walks with us and is with us and is present
Speaker 1: with us, do you know he uses human agency to
Speaker 1: act that out many times. So, so when when your
Speaker 1: congregation or your pastors, or your your your family members
Speaker 1: or whoever is walking with you. That is a godly thing.
Speaker 1: And so that's why a local church when they counsel you,
Speaker 1: unlike some of these counselors from an agency, when your
Speaker 1: local church is counseling through, they're actually walking. They know
Speaker 1: where you came from, and they're they're walking with you
Speaker 1: after it. So even when you stop the counseling, they're
Speaker 1: still walking with you, and you see them and you
Speaker 1: you have coffee with them, and you have you have
Speaker 1: meals with them, and so you're not alone. Don't be
Speaker 1: alone in this. Make sure you just keep talking about this.
Speaker 1: And another thing to throw out is find a common
Speaker 1: ground with the seventeen and nineteen year old. We said
Speaker 1: this in the last podcast. Find something you probably won't
Speaker 1: like it, but find something that they love and dig
Speaker 1: into that. If it's NASCAR racing, or if it's video games,
Speaker 1: or if it's the NFL, or if it's chess, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Find something they love and then that you're
Speaker 1: in join them in that, and then start that community
Speaker 1: with them through that, through that commonality of the video game,
Speaker 1: through Fortnite or whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I'll mention that Granger just said but
Speaker 2: didn't go into was pray, like, just continue to pray
Speaker 2: like I have seen in my life. I know Grangeer
Speaker 2: has seen situations that can look like this. And if
Speaker 2: you are just diligent in bringing it before God. Diligent
Speaker 2: not just oh yeah, I'm gonna pray about that letter, No,
Speaker 2: but like sit in the stillness with God and beg
Speaker 2: him and plead with him. Petition. I think your heart
Speaker 2: gets changed. I think you start to hear the voice
Speaker 2: of God and how to practically act these things out
Speaker 2: a little clearer. And I think that you can see
Speaker 2: His spirit work in these two older kids, in the
Speaker 2: younger kids, and maybe a change in your wife's mental state.
Speaker 2: If we just pray to a God that hears us
Speaker 2: and wants to draw near and show mercy. So just pray.
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't sound like much, but I do
Speaker 2: believe it's like one of the most powerful things that
Speaker 2: we have and that we can do.
Speaker 1: So let me take that thought prayer. Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take a break because we're out of time on the cameras.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get right back because I want you, I
Speaker 1: want you to expound and I want to say one
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Speaker 1: and kind of just finishing a thought from the last question,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about there was this situation where, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a stepdad and he's got a couple
Speaker 1: of teenage kids that have checked out, two younger kids together.
Speaker 1: The wife is she's struggling with mental health issues, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about plugging into the local church we're talking about.
Speaker 1: Bernie was talking about praying and how the power of
Speaker 1: prayer and so there's one more thing out kind of
Speaker 1: on an app to this, and that is Bernie's so right.
Speaker 1: We typically use prayer as like the last thing, like
Speaker 1: I've done everything I can and I've even prayed, instead
Speaker 1: of using that as what the Bible would tell us
Speaker 1: is that is our first.
Speaker 3: Thing we do. I've been studying James in the.
Speaker 1: Bible, the brother of our Lord, the step brother. By
Speaker 1: the way, and he was known I read in a
Speaker 1: commentary he was known as having They called him old
Speaker 1: camel knees because his knees were so worn and leathery,
Speaker 1: because he was always on his knees praying. Wow, isn't
Speaker 1: that crazy?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Oh, if I could one day be called old camel knees, Like, Oh, Granger,
Speaker 1: that dude is always.
Speaker 3: On his knees.
Speaker 1: Man, Like if that if the brother of Jesus was
Speaker 1: prayed so much that his knees were worn out and leathery,
Speaker 1: what did he know? If anyone knew anything about prayer
Speaker 1: on the mortal level, don't you think it would be
Speaker 1: someone that lived and grew up with that man grew
Speaker 1: up with Jesus? What does that say for us? Martin Luther,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of just say this loosely. Martin Luther,
Speaker 1: the Old Reformer said, quoted loosely something like, I am
Speaker 1: so busy, it's gonna take me weeks to pray for
Speaker 1: all this stuff. So what are we missing with this?
Speaker 1: Here's my point. When Bernie brings up prayer and I
Speaker 1: bring up local church, I would like to also combine
Speaker 1: those two things and not forget that those things also
Speaker 1: go together, and when you're talking to people and they
Speaker 1: say how you doing and you say, I'm fine, man,
Speaker 1: how are you And they're like, man, I'm good, cool, busy, cool,
Speaker 1: me too, Okay bye.
Speaker 3: That is a normal conversation between two dudes.
Speaker 1: But what I need you to do, when I want
Speaker 1: to encourage you to do, is to say, man, be
Speaker 1: honest with you and struggling. It's been it's been a
Speaker 1: little bit of a season for us. My wife is
Speaker 1: she's been struggling, and I could appreciate your prayers if
Speaker 1: you could pray for me and specifically for our two
Speaker 1: kids or two step kids have kind of checked out.
Speaker 1: They're seventeen and nineteen, and I'm worried about them, and
Speaker 1: I could use your prayers. When I hear that, as
Speaker 1: a Christian, when I hear that, my heart just kind
Speaker 1: of flutters a little bit. It gets it kind of
Speaker 1: enlarges a little bit because I feel like what I
Speaker 1: hear is, hey, Granger, we're recruiting you to the army.
Speaker 1: Would you come with us and fight this battle with us?
Speaker 1: And I love that kind of language because I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: what are the name what are the names of the kids?
Speaker 1: Give me seventeen nineteen. Sometimes, if I'm thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I'll pull out my phone, give me their name seventeen nineteen,
Speaker 1: and your wife, what's her name. I want to know
Speaker 1: this stuff because then I want to be able to
Speaker 1: go and I want in my prayer life because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm doing something as a Christian that I'm
Speaker 1: called to do. Praying for others, praying for the well
Speaker 1: being of others. It has nothing to do with me.
Speaker 1: So don't be afraid to tell I'm speaking to all
Speaker 1: Christians right now. Don't be afraid to tell your brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters what's.
Speaker 3: Going on in your life.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between self deprecation and depression and just
Speaker 1: bringing people down with negativity.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, brother, I appreciate it if you could
Speaker 1: say a few prayers from my grandpa. He hadn't been
Speaker 1: doing too good and we're worried about grandma. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll pray for that tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the depth of community just grows and grows
Speaker 2: when you do that, the depth of relationship. When I'm
Speaker 2: vulnerable enough to say like I did, like maybe earlier,
Speaker 2: you know, for the podcast like, hey, man, struggling with this,
Speaker 2: It's like you're inviting that person into a deeper relationship
Speaker 2: you're sharing with him, like, hey, I trust you. And
Speaker 2: I would say the majority of the time, the response
Speaker 2: that you're going to get is let me join you
Speaker 2: in that. Let me let me join you in that.
Speaker 2: There's not going to be any you know, making fun
Speaker 2: of you or like, oh we get it together.
Speaker 3: You don't.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be I guarantee you it's not
Speaker 2: going to be like that. So you're gonna then be
Speaker 2: able to enjoy just that feeling of community and that
Speaker 2: feeling of okay perspective, not in this alone and grange
Speaker 2: your nose. And he is advocating, He is interceding for me.
Speaker 2: It's not just me. God, God hears us. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I think you're.
Speaker 3: Right on man, dude.
Speaker 1: It just opens up And I don't want to go
Speaker 1: too far on this, because we could talk the whole
Speaker 1: podcast just about this, but it goes so far because
Speaker 1: then when I see you next week, I say, how's
Speaker 1: your wife, how's the kids? Okay, you know, and we're
Speaker 1: getting updates. And then it also opens my eyes in
Speaker 1: the community of hey, did you know that that the
Speaker 1: so and so company is hiring nineteen year olds.
Speaker 3: Did you know that?
Speaker 1: I just saw it, but I thought about your kids
Speaker 1: because you mentioned they were kind of checked out, and
Speaker 1: then I was praying for him. And then the other
Speaker 1: day it's weird. I saw it we're hiring sign in
Speaker 1: the window, and I thought about your kids. I thought maybe,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's the thing, and then it triggers and
Speaker 1: God works in that way, and then they call and
Speaker 1: then they get a job, and then that's something they
Speaker 1: become passionate.
Speaker 3: About and it changes everything. Just from you opening up
Speaker 3: your prayer life.
Speaker 2: There's really nothing cooler in this life than feeling like
Speaker 2: you are kind of caught up in something bigger than yourself.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you how many times Granger, you know,
Speaker 2: could probably attest to this. How many times I have
Speaker 2: been praying for you and God just lays something on
Speaker 2: me and I'm like, hey, Gris, I don't know what
Speaker 2: this means, but man, I feel like you know this
Speaker 2: is going on, or you tell me something. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 2: and you text me back or you call me or
Speaker 2: we talk and you're like, bro, you have no idea.
Speaker 2: I was like, I had no idea.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: That's that's the coolest thing to be a part of.
Speaker 2: To just feel like, man, there's something bigger working in
Speaker 2: us that if we're just sensitive to the spirit and
Speaker 2: advocating intercede for people. Sometimes he just gives us these
Speaker 2: little you know, you know, easter eggs of like, hey,
Speaker 2: you need to you need to text Johnny and uh
Speaker 2: and just ask him specifically about this. And you do
Speaker 2: that and he calls you immediately, I need to come
Speaker 2: to your office and you sit and you talk to
Speaker 2: him for an hour. That stuff happens. It does happen,
Speaker 2: and it's something I wish I was a part of
Speaker 2: more often. But I love being a part of it because,
Speaker 2: like Granger said, you feel like you're a part of
Speaker 2: this fight. You're you're you're locked arms with the spirit,
Speaker 2: and uh, it's just really really cool.
Speaker 3: Love it, man, Let's go to the next question here.
Speaker 1: Oh buddy, I think I just saw the time some
Speaker 1: decline says judgment in heaven. Hey, Granger, my name is Tristan.
Speaker 1: I'm twenty five from Kansas. Love the podcast, Love Your Music.
Speaker 1: I learn more and more about God and the Bible
Speaker 1: every day. But I recently had a conversation with a
Speaker 1: relative about heaven. They claim there is no judgment in heaven,
Speaker 1: so when a family member or a friend passes away,
Speaker 1: they won't remember you as there is no positive or
Speaker 1: negative judgment. I know, once you go to heaven you
Speaker 1: are forgiven of your sins. But does that mean people
Speaker 1: only remember the good things? Do they remember anything at all?
Speaker 1: Just some thoughts of mine? Thank you well, Tristan. Let's
Speaker 1: dive into this. Thank you for emailing. I appreciate you, brother, and.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: Right at the top of this email you say I'm
Speaker 1: learning more and more about God in the Bible every day.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 2: Keep saying that, keep.
Speaker 1: Saying that, Yeah, you are going to through this. Through
Speaker 1: through your learning, you're going to run into a lot
Speaker 1: of people that say a lot of things, relatives, TikTok whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna hear a lot of things about God
Speaker 1: in the Bible. It's very important to not take that
Speaker 1: as how you learn from a relative, or from social
Speaker 1: media or from Google. But we learn things from the
Speaker 1: Bible itself. It's very important to not rely not even
Speaker 1: on devotionals. We could use them to supplement, but we
Speaker 1: don't even rely on anything but the Word of God itself.
Speaker 1: And then when you're doing that and you're feasting on that,
Speaker 1: and you're reading that daily, you're going to see things
Speaker 1: in there that answer questions that you didn't even know
Speaker 1: that it was right there in front of you. For instance,
Speaker 1: we can go a couple of different couple of ways
Speaker 1: with your email. I don't I don't think this is
Speaker 1: like a theology question. I don't think that's what this
Speaker 1: is about. So I'm not going to dive into, you know,
Speaker 1: the theology of heaven. I'm not. I'll just kind of
Speaker 1: lightly brush over it. But you'll see things. For instance,
Speaker 1: like you said, I know, once you go to heaven
Speaker 1: you are forgiven of your sins. That's not true. You
Speaker 1: say you know that, but that's not true. Your sins
Speaker 1: are forgiven when you repent and believe in Jesus on earth.
Speaker 1: Your sins can be forgiven today, much less when you
Speaker 1: get to heaven today. Right now, by the time you die,
Speaker 1: it's too late, it is too late to make these
Speaker 1: kind of life changes. Right so, by the time you
Speaker 1: get to heaven, the only the only people that will
Speaker 1: be in Heaven are the ones that were forgiven on earth,
Speaker 1: right does that make sense? But that's just that's very
Speaker 1: simple Bible stuff. What's also kind of concerning, And it's
Speaker 1: not really concerning because I know that you're learning and
Speaker 1: you're wanting to grow, but but I want to kind
Speaker 1: of show you here that your questions are these These
Speaker 1: are like very universal type ideas, like everyone dies. Like
Speaker 1: what I'm getting from your email is everyone dies, everyone
Speaker 1: goes to heaven, everyone has no judgment once they're there,
Speaker 1: positive or negative. And then where do we go? What's
Speaker 1: where do we go from that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do we remember?
Speaker 3: That's not Bernie help me here? Where do you think
Speaker 3: I'm trying not to get too deep? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the does he say his.
Speaker 3: Age twenty five?
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have a fully formed close to fully
Speaker 2: formed brain that we're talking to here. I think you're
Speaker 2: probably getting in some conversations with some people maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit older, that are throwing a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: at you, and you don't really know how to defend
Speaker 2: your faith and you don't really know what the Bible says.
Speaker 2: So I think, like Granger said, like always be just studying,
Speaker 2: just like we are studying and learning, because there's a
Speaker 2: lot there. I did he have a question at the Bible.
Speaker 1: It's it's basically, once you get to heaven, your sins
Speaker 1: are forgiven, he says, But does that mean you'll only
Speaker 1: remember the good things or do you remember anything at all?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think what Granger and I could say
Speaker 2: here is probably I don't want to say irrelevant. But
Speaker 2: you have to go and wrestle with this yourself. If
Speaker 2: you're really gonna know, and you're really gonna learn, and
Speaker 2: you're really gonna be convicted, I think you need to
Speaker 2: go take the word, you need to study it. You
Speaker 2: need to get connected with other believers, other non believers,
Speaker 2: like be curious to have these conversations and wrestle wrestle
Speaker 2: with the question. I think it's great that you're, you know,
Speaker 2: emailing into the podcast and kind of getting getting some
Speaker 2: feedback and some understanding. But I don't think that this
Speaker 2: is a they're wrong, You're right, Here's here's where we
Speaker 2: need to change the theology.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: I think it's a lot broader of a question that
Speaker 2: what best thing we can do is say, go find
Speaker 2: out for yourself. Dig in and go find out for yourself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's definitely some things here theologically that just are misunderstandings
Speaker 2: or he's been told other things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I want you to look up something, Tristan,
Speaker 1: And it's not like you could look it up. And
Speaker 1: there's one place I want you to read through in context,
Speaker 1: meaning don't google averse. Please don't do that. Don't ever
Speaker 1: google a verse and look and see if it applies
Speaker 1: to your life. Instead, I want you to read in
Speaker 1: context through the New Testament. Let's say you want to
Speaker 1: start him in Matthew, start start in Matthew. It's going
Speaker 1: to start with the genealogy of Christ or John, it's
Speaker 1: going to start with creation. And I want you to
Speaker 1: read through in context. And my question to you is
Speaker 1: are you going to Heaven? Are you going?
Speaker 3: Do you have a ticket?
Speaker 1: Basically, that's what I'm asking And that's not for your
Speaker 1: relative to answer. That's not for for a my podcast
Speaker 1: to answer, that's not for Google to answer. That's for
Speaker 1: John or Matthew or Mark or Luke or Romans or
Speaker 1: anything in the New Testament really to answer. For you,
Speaker 1: I want you to find that answer.
Speaker 3: Are you going?
Speaker 1: Challenge you? I challenge you that, Tristan, and I challenge
Speaker 1: you not to google it. This is why I say Google,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning. The problem so
Speaker 1: many times, especially today, is that it depends on this
Speaker 1: is what I was thinking. Okay, tell me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this this morning my workout. It
Speaker 1: depends on what lens we're looking through. So, say we
Speaker 1: have glasses. You could put glasses on, and through that
Speaker 1: lens you see things, and so so many times what
Speaker 1: we want to do is we want to take the
Speaker 1: lens of the world, our lives, our situations, our problems,
Speaker 1: our community, our culture, and we put that those glasses on,
Speaker 1: and then we want to read the Bible through our culture,
Speaker 1: through our own problems, through who we are. We read
Speaker 1: the Bible and we see the Bible through that lens.
Speaker 1: But that's not what we're supposed to do. We're supposed
Speaker 1: to put on the lens of the Bible. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this. The Bible are the lenses you put
Speaker 1: those glasses on, and so when you see the world,
Speaker 1: you're seeing it through the lens of the Bible. So
Speaker 1: then you look at your problems you're suffering, your questions
Speaker 1: about Heaven and judgment, your questions about sins, your questions
Speaker 1: about oh what happens after you die. The questions about
Speaker 1: everything pop culture, but you're always looking at that through
Speaker 1: the lens of the Bible, not the other way around.
Speaker 2: That's good, That's really good.
Speaker 3: So be very careful.
Speaker 1: That's why I say put the lens of the Bible on,
Speaker 1: put the glasses of the Bible.
Speaker 3: On, and then find out this answer. Are you going
Speaker 3: to heaven? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Take Grainger's challenge and then email us back. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you're willing to. I mean, the thing is is like
Speaker 2: it's not easy, like getting up early and studying and
Speaker 2: taking this seriously. It is a serious matter, so I
Speaker 2: think it should be.
Speaker 3: But it's not easy.
Speaker 2: But I guarantee you if you take the challenge, I
Speaker 2: would love to hear about your journey through it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what you discover about this question, but also just in
Speaker 2: your own faith journey. But thanks for writing in.
Speaker 3: Yes. Great.
Speaker 1: Next question says brothers dead in combat. Hey grangeur My
Speaker 1: brother is a US Air Force para rescue man PJ.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: On June ninth, twenty ten, helicopter Pedro sixty six was
Speaker 1: shot down in Afghanistan on the way to rescue injured
Speaker 1: soldiers on the battlefield. Two of his teammates died in
Speaker 1: the crash. Their names were Benjamin White and Mike Flores.
Speaker 1: He is still active duty and doesn't say much about combat.
Speaker 1: He assures me everything is fine. A few times I
Speaker 1: have seen him cry and vent about that day. We
Speaker 1: my family try to console him with messages about the Lord,
Speaker 1: et cetera. We were both raised Catholic, but I do
Speaker 1: not think that he is a believer on the scale
Speaker 1: like I am. He would reply with things like why
Speaker 1: would God let my friends burn to death in a
Speaker 1: helicopter crash? Is there anything you could offer him to
Speaker 1: help understand why such events happen? I imagine you feel the
Speaker 1: same pain as he does with the loss of river.
Speaker 1: Thank you God, bless And is there not a name?
Speaker 1: There's not a name? Call this call it, call it anonymous.
Speaker 2: How much time we got on this one?
Speaker 1: We got about six minutes, seven minutes, which is not
Speaker 1: enough time for a question like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think at the end he's asking like, do you
Speaker 2: have anything for him? But I think, really what we
Speaker 2: need to have is something for this guy. Ye brother
Speaker 2: is probably not listening. Yeah, I don't know if we
Speaker 2: have anything for him anyway.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think that's great. I see that
Speaker 1: so many times on this podcast. The person emailing might
Speaker 1: need to hear what we need to say more than
Speaker 1: the person they're asking about. And if at least it's
Speaker 1: like the uh the idea on an airplane when you're
Speaker 1: when the oxygen mask drop, put the mask on yourself first,
Speaker 1: then your kids. So if because if you pass out,
Speaker 1: you ain't helping anybody, right, So.
Speaker 2: One message to your brother from us is thank you
Speaker 2: for your service. Like I can't imagine what he's put
Speaker 2: himself through and just losing his brothers that way in combat,
Speaker 2: And yeah, thank you for your service.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally agree what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say something.
Speaker 1: I say a lot of things on this podcast, and
Speaker 1: not always they might not always come across as nice,
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't need to be nice, and
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not in the business of being nice.
Speaker 1: I genuinely love you, man, and I feel your heart
Speaker 1: in this email. You took so much time to write
Speaker 1: about your brother because he's hurting and you're listening to
Speaker 1: my podcast and you're just taking a shot like maybe
Speaker 1: there's a chance Grange will read it, and maybe there's
Speaker 1: a chance my brother can get help. So I love
Speaker 1: you for that, man, I love your heart. So what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that I don't want to come across
Speaker 1: wrong is I don't think you are saved. I don't
Speaker 1: think you're a Christian. And please don't take that the
Speaker 1: wrong way, because I only mean it in a way
Speaker 1: to help spur you and cultivate that ground that you're
Speaker 1: standing on a little bit.
Speaker 2: Because I think that's great and I think like you
Speaker 2: can definitely, I think you got more to say. But
Speaker 2: if you stop listening now, which is fine because you
Speaker 2: heard what Granger said and you're like, ah ah, take
Speaker 2: that question and go to your brother and you guys,
Speaker 2: wrestle through that. He says that, I mean, be a Christian?
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: And you, guys, like, start down that journey together. One.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a lot of probably healing from
Speaker 2: trauma in that that you'll get to wrestle through together.
Speaker 2: But hopefully there is salvation on the other side of
Speaker 2: it that you feel confident in and you actually know.
Speaker 1: So sorry, I just had no Yeah, that's great and
Speaker 1: because and the part of the reason I get that
Speaker 1: that feeling is you first of all being a Christian
Speaker 1: is not how you were raised.
Speaker 3: And you said I was raised Catholic. But here's the key.
Speaker 1: But I do not think he is a believer on
Speaker 1: the scale like I am. There is no scale of
Speaker 1: being a believer. A we are all wretched sinners, rebels, undeserving,
Speaker 1: saved by grace through faith. That's a Christian, undeserving. God
Speaker 1: have mercy on me, a sinner. That's what the tax
Speaker 1: collector said. And he was the one justified, not the
Speaker 1: Pharisee that said, thank God, I'm not like him, thank
Speaker 1: God he's not on my scale.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what he I'm trying to
Speaker 2: think of, like any other way that he could have
Speaker 2: said that and meant that other than what you're saying
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know how else other than a
Speaker 2: you know, a scale that Catholicism will you know, kind
Speaker 2: of lead you towards, which I think you just addressed.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about if we do this live like
Speaker 2: some of these follow up questions, what is that going to.
Speaker 3: Be like people not like me?
Speaker 1: Brother, I don't believe you're a Christian, and I don't
Speaker 1: believe you're on any scale, and I don't believe you're
Speaker 1: going to heaven.
Speaker 3: And I would wrestle with that.
Speaker 1: And I say that in a way that I hope
Speaker 1: challenges you to go to the Word and go to
Speaker 1: the cross, go to the foot of the cross, and
Speaker 1: see your suffering savior on that cross, nailed to cross,
Speaker 1: with blood coming down in a way that he was
Speaker 1: so deformed he was unrecognizable as a human. And when
Speaker 1: you look at why he did that, because me and you,
Speaker 1: and Bernie and your brother here rebelled against him, and
Speaker 1: all of humanity rebelled against Christ. And the only way
Speaker 1: to reconcile us to him was to go to the
Speaker 1: cross and sacrifice as the spotless lamb, the once and
Speaker 1: for all final sacrifice for us to trade so that
Speaker 1: he could pay, so that in full he could pay
Speaker 1: the price of our wretchedness. And when you see that
Speaker 1: for what it is, and when you see that the
Speaker 1: wrath of God, the wrath of God that is upon
Speaker 1: me and you, was satisfied through the Cross, through that sacrifice.
Speaker 1: And when that wrath was satisfied, those that look upon
Speaker 1: it and believe and turn away from their lives and
Speaker 1: trust in it.
Speaker 3: Are saved.
Speaker 1: And I believe through your email that the wrath of
Speaker 1: God is still upon you. As I say, seek him,
Speaker 1: go to him, take on his mercy, see him on
Speaker 1: the cross as that suffering savior. And when that happens
Speaker 1: and you believe and you're saved, things will change also
Speaker 1: for your brother, because when he sees that happen to you,
Speaker 1: he will see things in a different light. He will
Speaker 1: see death in a different way. Put the oxygen mask
Speaker 1: on you first, and then your brother.
Speaker 3: That's what we got.
Speaker 2: Love you guys, Amen, See you next time.
Speaker 3: See y.
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me on the Granger Smith Podcast. I
Speaker 1: appreciate all of you.
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