WEBVTT - #186 This Might Offend You...

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm gonna say that I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>come across wrong is I don't think you are saved.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're a Christian. Hey, welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, y'all, second week in a row, our friend,

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<v Speaker 1>the best guest ever besides Chad and Parker and Bernie Calcot,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the show. We answer your questions on

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<v Speaker 1>this show. If you have a question, Grangersmith podcast at

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<v Speaker 1>gmail dot com, and we answer it. And Bernie's on

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<v Speaker 1>here because he's really great at empathizing and thinking and

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<v Speaker 1>giving me a solid answer for things in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna we're gonna do our best. Like we're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the cap of a truck answering questions about

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<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Not always right most of the time, honest, And we're

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<v Speaker 2>prepping for a live recording.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do y'all think about that doing this live,

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<v Speaker 1>live podcast taping where you asked the questions in real time.

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<v Speaker 1>We're on a stage somewhere. Maybe we travel to a

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<v Speaker 1>few different cities and we answer your questions there. What

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<v Speaker 1>would y'all think about that? Would you show up? And

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<v Speaker 1>what city should we go to?

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<v Speaker 2>And would you be as honest in person as you are,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's some very honest, vulnerable questions that come through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah anonymously, Yeah, anonymously.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you be willing to do it?

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<v Speaker 3>It would be awesome interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>How would you respond if you asked a question and

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<v Speaker 2>Granger just looked at you as like, dumper, what are

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<v Speaker 2>you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on, don't drink, quit it, stop it, okay?

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<v Speaker 3>First question here?

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<v Speaker 1>The subject line says goals, and it says, hey, Granger,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for all you do. I am single and content,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously would like to find a relationship. I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>as a single person if I find the right person.

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<v Speaker 1>Should that be treated as a goal as in something

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<v Speaker 1>you passively work towards daily, as in like a checklist,

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<v Speaker 1>like talk to a girl, talk to at least three girls,

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<v Speaker 1>ask for their number, actively spend time on dating site,

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<v Speaker 1>research qualities that will help me be attractive, etc. Or

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<v Speaker 1>is this just desperate in relation to leaning on God's

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<v Speaker 1>timing and waiting for the right person to show up

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<v Speaker 1>in my life without seeking them out at all? Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>David twenty or excuse me thirty one Arkansas PS.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a ticket to your Tulsa show?

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<v Speaker 2>Hot ticket Why are you grinning so much as.

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<v Speaker 3>You read that question? Because I feel you.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're looking at me while I'm reading. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and David is just I'm grinned because David is just

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<v Speaker 1>so honest and he's so sincere, and Dave wants to

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<v Speaker 1>David wants a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fair everything he's asking.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he is fair.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants a girl, and he's sincere about that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's willing to say, Unlike a lot of people, he's

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<v Speaker 1>willing to say, what's it gonna take?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I'm going to take it that David

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<v Speaker 2>is type a kind of like me. So I need

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<v Speaker 2>I need a list, I need a plan, I need

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<v Speaker 2>like a we need to be actively doing this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think my brain tends to maybe work the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I think it's fair. I mean, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>wait to hear what you say the advice to him.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, sure, I at least David, I feel you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so Bernie, you could follow up. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of shoot from the hip here. You let me

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask. Let me look at two things.

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<v Speaker 3>That you ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically, you asked, should I treat finding a person as

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<v Speaker 1>a goal that I work on daily like a checklist.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the second question you asked is or should

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<v Speaker 1>I just wait, lean on God's timing and wait for

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<v Speaker 1>the right person to show up without seeking them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are two opposite endes of the spectrum here, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to kind of point out first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not really thinking about middle ground here.

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<v Speaker 3>You're asking two opposite questions, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think the answer in life always is in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>for everything, and you are you're kind of looking at

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<v Speaker 1>extremes and let me look at the God thing real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Leaning on God's timing and waiting for the right person

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<v Speaker 1>to show up without seeking them is not biblical in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that the Bible is always going to give

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<v Speaker 1>us humans a responsibility of something to do. So there's

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<v Speaker 1>always through every command that through through all of God's

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<v Speaker 1>sovereignty meaning his total control, his providence meaning his understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the future, and in our lives and everything and

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<v Speaker 1>every hair on our head and every day that we

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<v Speaker 1>have left on our life, there's also a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility that we we have on top of that providence

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<v Speaker 1>to respond, to act, to follow, to stand up, to

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<v Speaker 1>take up your mat and and follow So, so we

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<v Speaker 1>know for a fact that sitting waiting on God and

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<v Speaker 1>not doing anything is wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>The opposite is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, saying God, I'm gonna take this into my own

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<v Speaker 1>hands and handle all of this. Okay, So where's the middle?

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the middle? How How do we as a mature

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<v Speaker 1>Christian responsibly handle the middle ground? Where we trust, we believe,

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<v Speaker 1>and we also act as a response to our belief.

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<v Speaker 1>We act with our responsibility as a response of the grace. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that could be applied to everything in your life, including

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<v Speaker 1>finding a girl.

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<v Speaker 3>So you believe that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Believe, not that there's a girl, or not that you

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<v Speaker 1>will be married or you will have but you believe

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<v Speaker 1>that God has a purpose for your life. And there's

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<v Speaker 1>a there's a good chance that that purpose is is

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<v Speaker 1>going to include a girl. But not it's not, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly true. You just know that He has a

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<v Speaker 1>purpose for you in some way. So you trust that first,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, God, I'm gonna lean on you, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna trust you. I'm gonna read your word, I'm gonna study,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna surround myself with wi It's counsel. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>implant myself in a church. I'm gonna become a member.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna become actively involved in the church. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be in a small group. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>with other men. I'm gonna be learning and soaking in

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<v Speaker 1>as they teach me, as I dive into your word.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then I'm gonna when I'm doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna also be cognizant of my desires around me.

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<v Speaker 1>Like do I see a girl throwing this out? I

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<v Speaker 1>see a girl at the grocery store, and I see

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<v Speaker 1>her there every Monday, and I'm really attracted to her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm also really into God's world right now, then

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<v Speaker 1>I would pay attention that God puts desires in her

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<v Speaker 1>heart like that gives us the desires of her heart,

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<v Speaker 1>as in gives us new wants and desires. And so

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<v Speaker 1>we paid and then we act on that. We act

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<v Speaker 1>on the girl in the grocery store, and we say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I see you here every Monday in the vegetable aisle.

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<v Speaker 1>I like cantalope too. I thought that was funny. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little awkward, but I live down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed you walk here. Maybe one day, we can

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<v Speaker 1>grab coffee or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's acting on.

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<v Speaker 1>God's providence because of your trust.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm gonna stop and let Bernie go.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think everything you're saying is right on. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I'm gonna go out on a limb here. I

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<v Speaker 2>have this analogy or metaphor whatever you want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but it may be absolutely terrible, but I'm gonna throw

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<v Speaker 2>it out there anyway. So but I know there's people listening,

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<v Speaker 2>like to fish, right, So let's say we go out

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<v Speaker 2>to fish, and we decide to put some peanut butter

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<v Speaker 2>and jelly sandwiches on our hook. We put it out there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna catch maybe some seaweed, not much, right, but

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<v Speaker 2>then we have some live bait. Put that on there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what Granger's saying is, if you the dating

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<v Speaker 2>apps and things that you can take into your your

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<v Speaker 2>own control to try to force, this is gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the peanut butter and jelly sandwich you're putting on your hook.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not gonna catch anything, and if you do catch anything,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not gonna be what you want. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>are just trying your best to be obedient, stay in

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<v Speaker 2>God's word and walk in the path each day he

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<v Speaker 2>has for you. He's gonnaly never say hey, put this

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<v Speaker 2>on your hook. Put it out there, and what you

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<v Speaker 2>catch is gonna be what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I love David.

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<v Speaker 1>I love your type a personality, and you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to put some live bait on that hook man, because

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<v Speaker 1>you were. I bet your peanut butter sandwich that you're

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<v Speaker 1>casting also has the crust cut off of it, like

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<v Speaker 1>perfectly in the squares.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, And I appreciate the effort.

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<v Speaker 1>That looks cool if it's a brand new hook you

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<v Speaker 1>got at bass pro shops and you hooked it right

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<v Speaker 1>through the middle of that peanut butter in jail, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's probably like crunchy peanut butter, like perfectly measured out

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. The effort is amazing. It's really admirable, but

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna catch anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think one thing you said just about aiming

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<v Speaker 2>for the middle, that's a good word for me, for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>We tend to kind of see things polarized, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>like most of the time we need to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>think about the middle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So David, maybe aim towards the middle, Buddy, next question, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say this. I don't know what's coming

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<v Speaker 1>at me. We don't have notes in front of us.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have like a list of famous quotes from

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<v Speaker 1>Abraham Lincoln or something that we're gonna throw out. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna hear these questions as I hear them, subject line

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<v Speaker 1>work life balance.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Grandeur.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, like to say thank you for your example.

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<v Speaker 1>I have learned a lot from listening to your podcast

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<v Speaker 1>as well as other forms of media with you and

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<v Speaker 1>your family. Your podcast has really helped show me the

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<v Speaker 1>need for me to be daily reading my Bible in

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<v Speaker 1>order to grow my faith. Through that daily reading, it's

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<v Speaker 1>helped me grow tremendously. My question is this, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>work life balance. As a man of faith, I see

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<v Speaker 1>a need for me to be present in my home

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<v Speaker 1>to nurture my family. But I know it's awesome my

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility to provide for my family. My dad owns his

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<v Speaker 1>own business and always worked a lot to provide for us,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't take for granted because he missed out

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot while we were growing up. My worry

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<v Speaker 1>is that if I follow in his footsteps, the same

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<v Speaker 1>will be true for me. I trust in God's plan

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<v Speaker 1>and pray for his guidance daily. But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>seek wise counsel as well. With all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you have going on. Would you have some advice to

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<v Speaker 1>give on this? I look forward to hearing your answer.

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<v Speaker 1>For privacy reasons, I prefer to stay us. A great question, anonymous,

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<v Speaker 1>very very thoughtful question. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, for sure. It sounds like his heart's in

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<v Speaker 2>the right spot.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at a was at a conference with Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Dever as he was speaking and people were asking questions

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<v Speaker 1>and he was answering questions recently, and somebody asked a question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember what it was about, but Mark's answer was, brother,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're even asking that question, you're gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's good.

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<v Speaker 3>You know that's good. I said that to this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, brother, if you're even thinking about this, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be fine. You're gonna nurture your family, you're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>a great dad, and you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Provide for them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the people that don't think through it that get

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<v Speaker 1>into the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no right or wrong answer. It's no secret

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<v Speaker 3>sauce to this.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I think practically, do we got time for break?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure? Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>I think practically just I think having some boundaries in

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<v Speaker 2>place ahead of time. If you're thinking about work life balance,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's really good to be present and Grangeery

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<v Speaker 2>and I have talked about this a lot, just in

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<v Speaker 2>every moment possible, just being as present and here now

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<v Speaker 2>as we possibly can. But what that also means is

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<v Speaker 2>that you have set boundaries in place and provision for

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<v Speaker 2>your family that when you are at work you can

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<v Speaker 2>be completely present and doing the best work possible. There's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be so much value in that that you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to not have to work, you know, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>sixty hours a week in order to provide for your family.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's something that we our culture as a

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<v Speaker 2>whole kind of like gets away from. We just think, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you got to work a lot, instead of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what if we did really quality, focused work in a

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<v Speaker 2>shorter amount of time and then we got to go

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<v Speaker 2>home and focus completely on our family. Both sides of

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<v Speaker 2>the coin are going to just gain a lot more

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<v Speaker 2>value and nurturing and provision from that. So if you

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<v Speaker 2>can set those boundaries in place now and then when

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<v Speaker 2>once you start to like kind of bump up against them,

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<v Speaker 2>have some accountability in somebody that knows like, hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is what I put in place for

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<v Speaker 2>this reason, and maybe that means that I don't make

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<v Speaker 2>that bonus or I don't get that one projector and

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<v Speaker 2>that's okay. Yeah, like we have to we have to

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<v Speaker 2>like have contentment first and then make your your boundaries

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<v Speaker 2>around that and then try to stick to them. So

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<v Speaker 2>just some practical I don't know if it's helpful, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the struggle what Bernie's saying, and the reason there's

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<v Speaker 1>no secret sauce to this, and it matters more of

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<v Speaker 1>your heart position to it. The reason we're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>is because your idea of providing for your family, or

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<v Speaker 1>your idea of time home with the family is it's

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<v Speaker 1>just not defined. It's just so subjective. For instance, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have a second grade education and you have two

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<v Speaker 1>felonies and you've served prison time and you're raising a

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<v Speaker 1>family post all this, and you get an offer for

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<v Speaker 1>really good money to go out on an oil rig

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<v Speaker 1>in the Gulf of Mexico for six months, you would

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<v Speaker 1>not at that point say, eh, I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like to be around my family. It's like, no, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a desperate situation. This is a great opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for you. You need to take this opportunity to get

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<v Speaker 1>this good money, and you're gonna be gone. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice you have to make in your situation. And the

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<v Speaker 1>same would be on the opposite, say you're doing really

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<v Speaker 1>well and you're continuing to work too hard and take

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<v Speaker 1>too many opportunities and you're not home enough. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be irresponsible the other way, right, And you could also

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<v Speaker 1>be irresponsible in a way that you're just home too

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<v Speaker 1>much and things are not getting paid for. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just very nuanced. It's just not a right or wrong answer.

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<v Speaker 1>The heart is the most important. You want to be

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<v Speaker 1>present at work. You want to be president at home.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make sure that you're raising a household

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<v Speaker 1>that understands that Dad has to work, because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to raise a house that thinks Dad's most important

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<v Speaker 1>priority is to not work and to be with me

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<v Speaker 1>and catch the football when I need to throw the football.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bad too, right, Just be careful you're thinking through this.

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<v Speaker 3>I love your question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're going to be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah's hit another long fought battles to subject line and

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<v Speaker 1>it says I've been married for twelve years. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>came with two kids from a previous marriage. They are

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<v Speaker 1>now seventeen and nineteen. We have two younger kids together,

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<v Speaker 1>three and eight. She has struggled with mental health issues

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<v Speaker 1>for the past six years. It has caused our kids

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<v Speaker 1>to check out of their relationship and will certainly cause

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<v Speaker 1>our younger kids to eventually do the same. Have sought

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<v Speaker 1>godly counsel lower case G and we are now on

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<v Speaker 1>our fourth counselor. The counselors are all professionals. Most importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>they are there to help here and helped turn around

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<v Speaker 1>our marriage. She has gone as an individual and then

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<v Speaker 1>we would get together and tie things back together, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. Unfortunately, she's not made much of any progress.

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<v Speaker 1>She has ruined all of her relationships with her friends

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<v Speaker 1>as well. This has been sad for me as a

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<v Speaker 1>bystander to watch all this occur. It puts me in

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<v Speaker 1>a negative vibe in our household. I prayed for her

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<v Speaker 1>in everything that I can, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the day, I cannot bridge the gap and make up

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<v Speaker 1>for what she lacks in our relationship or for our kids.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts? Thanks for reading? Okay, so no.

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<v Speaker 2>Real question other than what are your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just kind of respond to the situation here, married

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, two kids from the previous marriage that are

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<v Speaker 1>in the upper teens, and then younger kids. Two younger

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<v Speaker 1>kids together. So the problem is looking like with the

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<v Speaker 1>older kids, it's really the question two older kids have

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<v Speaker 1>checked out and to two younger kids might do the same.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing a lot if you're putting the work in

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<v Speaker 1>with these counselor things. You're on the fourth one, and

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<v Speaker 1>first thing I want to say to you, besides thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for your vulnerability, is the first thing I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say is I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>These older kids have checked out. I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's got mental health. She remarried and had two more kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say this with the most respect to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom had two replacement kids. You know, Mom replaced us

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<v Speaker 1>with two kids with the new guy. All respect to you.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say that, I'm just kind of speaking from

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen year old mind what that could look like.

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<v Speaker 1>Mom's a little crazy, She's in counseling all the time. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>this needs to be said too. When you're seventeen and nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of checked out anyway. Let's not forget that

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. You could be a seventeen year old

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<v Speaker 1>checked out of a great home. So what I think

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<v Speaker 1>we should ask a question for him?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do? He didn't say that. What do

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<v Speaker 3>you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're this guy in this situation, you're the stepdad

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<v Speaker 1>of two upper teens that have checked out, your wife's

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<v Speaker 1>having mental problems, You've gone through counselors, you've seen all

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<v Speaker 1>of her friends disappear, and you got two younger kids,

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<v Speaker 1>very vulnerable, ages three and eight.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So a couple things jump out. First thing is

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<v Speaker 2>just a ton of like empathy and heartbreak. Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>hate that you're in this. I hate this for the

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<v Speaker 2>the mom, I hate it for the kids. Man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is just part of our broken world and having to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, walk through these kind of really difficult, hard situations.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, man, I think grizz and I both kind

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<v Speaker 2>of heart breaks for you just having to sit in

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<v Speaker 2>this and recognize, just as humans in this world, what

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<v Speaker 2>we all have to endure, how nuanced it can be.

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<v Speaker 2>But also you know how similar we are. The second

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<v Speaker 2>thing that jumped out was these older kids have been

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<v Speaker 2>through divorce, and being someone that went through divorce, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if we recognize the trauma that that can cause.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how early in childhood that happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I guess it's at least eight years ago

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<v Speaker 2>if they have a three to eight year old, right, so,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a very you know, formative time for those kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Some math, they've been married for twelve the kids are seventeen, nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>three and eight, so so yeah, that they got divorced

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<v Speaker 1>when the kids were five and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I don't just speaking quickly before we you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get to you like, those those older kids probably need

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of love and a lot of attention and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of grace if they've checked out, like Granger said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean most of them do at that age. But

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<v Speaker 2>continuing to walk alongside them, especially as a stepdad, and

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<v Speaker 2>just be like and you know, sit in there in

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<v Speaker 2>there hurt with them, Like, man, I know that that

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<v Speaker 2>must have been hard to have your dad. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>never done that before, maybe you have, But yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, just being somebody that went through that, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that there is residual effects that they may not

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<v Speaker 2>even be aware of quite yet. And so if you

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<v Speaker 2>could just view them with that level of grace and

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<v Speaker 2>be able to maybe step into that, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that would help. Especially if their mom is mentally not well,

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<v Speaker 2>she's probably not caring for them in that relationship in

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<v Speaker 2>a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>So when when did your parents get divorced?

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<v Speaker 2>When were you Whenever? I was fourteen, but my dad

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<v Speaker 2>had left when I was nine, they separated.

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<v Speaker 3>So did you have a checkout period in your life

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<v Speaker 3>for sure? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>It started at fourteen. Yeah, because my dad. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bit different. My dad had left and

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<v Speaker 2>whenever I was nine, and I thought like, okay, this

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<v Speaker 2>is they're separated whatever. But then he came back and

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<v Speaker 2>it was kind of like my parents got back together,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like there was this hope and then

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<v Speaker 2>they satis down to games like I'm leaving this time

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<v Speaker 2>and it's for good, and then it was just like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>well I'm I'm checking out for sure. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, all the way till

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord you know, got me at twenty one.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so the guy, so you anonymous, man, this

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<v Speaker 1>is not a. This is not a crazy, rare situation.

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<v Speaker 1>What we're seeing is just the natural result of the

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<v Speaker 1>fall of a broken marriage. And so let's just throw

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<v Speaker 1>out a couple of things that he can do. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I want to you mentioned God a few times,

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned prayer a few times. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you're plugged in to a good local church.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you're emailing this podcast and you're seeking,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, you know, counsel from us, but I

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<v Speaker 1>also want to see that not just from a counselor

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<v Speaker 1>from a like a counseling firm, or like an organization

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<v Speaker 1>that does counseling, but I want to see that happen

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<v Speaker 1>within the local church itself, because I believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they're there for, is to walk with their

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<v Speaker 1>congregation through life's difficult problems so that they're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna always give you an answer, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna walk with you and God.

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<v Speaker 3>As we know that God.

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<v Speaker 1>Walks with us and is with us and is present

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<v Speaker 1>with us, do you know he uses human agency to

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<v Speaker 1>act that out many times. So, so when when your

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<v Speaker 1>congregation or your pastors, or your your your family members

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever is walking with you. That is a godly thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so that's why a local church when they counsel you,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike some of these counselors from an agency, when your

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<v Speaker 1>local church is counseling through, they're actually walking. They know

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<v Speaker 1>where you came from, and they're they're walking with you

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<v Speaker 1>after it. So even when you stop the counseling, they're

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<v Speaker 1>still walking with you, and you see them and you

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<v Speaker 1>you have coffee with them, and you have you have

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<v Speaker 1>meals with them, and so you're not alone. Don't be

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<v Speaker 1>alone in this. Make sure you just keep talking about this.

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<v Speaker 1>And another thing to throw out is find a common

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<v Speaker 1>ground with the seventeen and nineteen year old. We said

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<v Speaker 1>this in the last podcast. Find something you probably won't

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<v Speaker 1>like it, but find something that they love and dig

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<v Speaker 1>into that. If it's NASCAR racing, or if it's video games,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's the NFL, or if it's chess, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. Find something they love and then that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in join them in that, and then start that community

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<v Speaker 1>with them through that, through that commonality of the video game,

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<v Speaker 1>through Fortnite or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one thing I'll mention that Granger just said but

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<v Speaker 2>didn't go into was pray, like, just continue to pray

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<v Speaker 2>like I have seen in my life. I know Grangeer

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<v Speaker 2>has seen situations that can look like this. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you are just diligent in bringing it before God. Diligent

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<v Speaker 2>not just oh yeah, I'm gonna pray about that letter, No,

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<v Speaker 2>but like sit in the stillness with God and beg

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<v Speaker 2>him and plead with him. Petition. I think your heart

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<v Speaker 2>gets changed. I think you start to hear the voice

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<v Speaker 2>of God and how to practically act these things out

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<v Speaker 2>a little clearer. And I think that you can see

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<v Speaker 2>His spirit work in these two older kids, in the

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<v Speaker 2>younger kids, and maybe a change in your wife's mental state.

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<v Speaker 2>If we just pray to a God that hears us

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<v Speaker 2>and wants to draw near and show mercy. So just pray.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it doesn't sound like much, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's like one of the most powerful things that

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<v Speaker 2>we have and that we can do.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me take that thought prayer. Okay, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take a break because we're out of time on the cameras.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get right back because I want you, I

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of just finishing a thought from the last question,

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<v Speaker 1>and we were talking about there was this situation where, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a stepdad and he's got a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of teenage kids that have checked out, two younger kids together.

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<v Speaker 1>The wife is she's struggling with mental health issues, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about plugging into the local church we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie was talking about praying and how the power of

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<v Speaker 1>prayer and so there's one more thing out kind of

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<v Speaker 1>on an app to this, and that is Bernie's so right.

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<v Speaker 1>We typically use prayer as like the last thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've done everything I can and I've even prayed, instead

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<v Speaker 1>of using that as what the Bible would tell us

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<v Speaker 1>is that is our first.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing we do. I've been studying James in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Bible, the brother of our Lord, the step brother. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and he was known I read in a

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>commentary he was known as having They called him old

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>camel knees because his knees were so worn and leathery,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was always on his knees praying. Wow, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, if I could one day be called old camel knees, Like, Oh, Granger,

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:42.400
<v Speaker 1>that dude is always.

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<v Speaker 3>On his knees.

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>Man, Like if that if the brother of Jesus was

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<v Speaker 1>prayed so much that his knees were worn out and leathery,

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<v Speaker 1>what did he know? If anyone knew anything about prayer

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<v Speaker 1>on the mortal level, don't you think it would be

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<v Speaker 1>someone that lived and grew up with that man grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with Jesus? What does that say for us? Martin Luther,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna kind of just say this loosely. Martin Luther,

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 1>the Old Reformer said, quoted loosely something like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>so busy, it's gonna take me weeks to pray for

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff. So what are we missing with this?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's my point. When Bernie brings up prayer and I

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<v Speaker 1>bring up local church, I would like to also combine

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<v Speaker 1>those two things and not forget that those things also

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<v Speaker 1>go together, and when you're talking to people and they

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<v Speaker 1>say how you doing and you say, I'm fine, man,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you And they're like, man, I'm good, cool, busy, cool,

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>me too, Okay bye.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a normal conversation between two dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I need you to do, when I want

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage you to do, is to say, man, be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you and struggling. It's been it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a season for us. My wife is

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<v Speaker 1>she's been struggling, and I could appreciate your prayers if

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<v Speaker 1>you could pray for me and specifically for our two

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<v Speaker 1>kids or two step kids have kind of checked out.

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<v Speaker 1>They're seventeen and nineteen, and I'm worried about them, and

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<v Speaker 1>I could use your prayers. When I hear that, as

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian, when I hear that, my heart just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of flutters a little bit. It gets it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>enlarges a little bit because I feel like what I

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<v Speaker 1>hear is, hey, Granger, we're recruiting you to the army.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you come with us and fight this battle with us?

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<v Speaker 1>And I love that kind of language because I'm like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what are the name what are the names of the kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me seventeen nineteen. Sometimes, if I'm thinking about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pull out my phone, give me their name seventeen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and your wife, what's her name. I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff because then I want to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>go and I want in my prayer life because I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm doing something as a Christian that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>called to do. Praying for others, praying for the well

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<v Speaker 1>being of others. It has nothing to do with me.

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<v Speaker 1>So don't be afraid to tell I'm speaking to all

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<v Speaker 1>Christians right now. Don't be afraid to tell your brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and sisters what's.

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<v Speaker 3>Going on in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a difference between self deprecation and depression and just

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<v Speaker 1>bringing people down with negativity.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, brother, I appreciate it if you could

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<v Speaker 1>say a few prayers from my grandpa. He hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>doing too good and we're worried about grandma. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pray for that tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the depth of community just grows and grows

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<v Speaker 2>when you do that, the depth of relationship. When I'm

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerable enough to say like I did, like maybe earlier,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for the podcast like, hey, man, struggling with this,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you're inviting that person into a deeper relationship

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<v Speaker 2>you're sharing with him, like, hey, I trust you. And

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<v Speaker 2>I would say the majority of the time, the response

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to get is let me join you

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<v Speaker 2>in that. Let me let me join you in that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not going to be any you know, making fun

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<v Speaker 2>of you or like, oh we get it together.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to be I guarantee you it's not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be like that. So you're gonna then be

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<v Speaker 2>able to enjoy just that feeling of community and that

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of okay perspective, not in this alone and grange

0:33:25.600 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 2>your nose. And he is advocating, He is interceding for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just me. God, God hears us. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Right on man, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It just opens up And I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 1>too far on this, because we could talk the whole

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<v Speaker 1>podcast just about this, but it goes so far because

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<v Speaker 1>then when I see you next week, I say, how's

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<v Speaker 1>your wife, how's the kids? Okay, you know, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting updates. And then it also opens my eyes in

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<v Speaker 1>the community of hey, did you know that that the

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<v Speaker 1>so and so company is hiring nineteen year olds.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>I just saw it, but I thought about your kids

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<v Speaker 1>because you mentioned they were kind of checked out, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I was praying for him. And then the other

0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>day it's weird. I saw it we're hiring sign in

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<v Speaker 1>the window, and I thought about your kids. I thought maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that's the thing, and then it triggers and

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>God works in that way, and then they call and

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<v Speaker 1>then they get a job, and then that's something they

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<v Speaker 1>become passionate.

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<v Speaker 3>About and it changes everything. Just from you opening up

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<v Speaker 3>your prayer life.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really nothing cooler in this life than feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>you are kind of caught up in something bigger than yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how many times Granger, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>could probably attest to this. How many times I have

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<v Speaker 2>been praying for you and God just lays something on

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>me and I'm like, hey, Gris, I don't know what

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 2>this means, but man, I feel like you know this

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 2>is going on, or you tell me something. I was like, oh, man,

0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 2>and you text me back or you call me or

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<v Speaker 2>we talk and you're like, bro, you have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's the coolest thing to be a part of.

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<v Speaker 2>To just feel like, man, there's something bigger working in

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<v Speaker 2>us that if we're just sensitive to the spirit and

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 2>advocating intercede for people. Sometimes he just gives us these

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>little you know, you know, easter eggs of like, hey,

0:35:22.360 --> 0:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>you need to you need to text Johnny and uh

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<v Speaker 2>and just ask him specifically about this. And you do

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.359
<v Speaker 2>that and he calls you immediately, I need to come

0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>to your office and you sit and you talk to

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>him for an hour. That stuff happens. It does happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's something I wish I was a part of

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>more often. But I love being a part of it because,

0:35:43.520 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like Granger said, you feel like you're a part of

0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>this fight. You're you're you're locked arms with the spirit,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>and uh, it's just really really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Love it, man, Let's go to the next question here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh buddy, I think I just saw the time some

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<v Speaker 1>decline says judgment in heaven. Hey, Granger, my name is Tristan.

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm twenty five from Kansas. Love the podcast, Love Your Music.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I learn more and more about God and the Bible

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>every day. But I recently had a conversation with a

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>relative about heaven. They claim there is no judgment in heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>so when a family member or a friend passes away,

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:25.799
<v Speaker 1>they won't remember you as there is no positive or

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>negative judgment. I know, once you go to heaven you

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>are forgiven of your sins. But does that mean people

0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:36.040
<v Speaker 1>only remember the good things? Do they remember anything at all?

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Just some thoughts of mine? Thank you well, Tristan. Let's

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>dive into this. Thank you for emailing. I appreciate you, brother, and.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right at the top of this email you say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>learning more and more about God in the Bible every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep saying that, keep.

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Saying that, Yeah, you are going to through this. Through

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>through your learning, you're going to run into a lot

0:37:11.160 --> 0:37:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of people that say a lot of things, relatives, TikTok whatever,

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:19.360
<v Speaker 1>and you're gonna hear a lot of things about God

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bible. It's very important to not take that

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<v Speaker 1>as how you learn from a relative, or from social

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>media or from Google. But we learn things from the

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:38.959
<v Speaker 1>Bible itself. It's very important to not rely not even

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.080
<v Speaker 1>on devotionals. We could use them to supplement, but we

0:37:42.080 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>don't even rely on anything but the Word of God itself.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And then when you're doing that and you're feasting on that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're reading that daily, you're going to see things

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<v Speaker 1>in there that answer questions that you didn't even know

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<v Speaker 1>that it was right there in front of you. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>we can go a couple of different couple of ways

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<v Speaker 1>with your email. I don't I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>like a theology question. I don't think that's what this

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.759
<v Speaker 1>is about. So I'm not going to dive into, you know,

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the theology of heaven. I'm not. I'll just kind of

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>lightly brush over it. But you'll see things. For instance,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, I know, once you go to heaven

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<v Speaker 1>you are forgiven of your sins. That's not true. You

0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>say you know that, but that's not true. Your sins

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:40.280
<v Speaker 1>are forgiven when you repent and believe in Jesus on earth.

0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Your sins can be forgiven today, much less when you

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.759
<v Speaker 1>get to heaven today. Right now, by the time you die,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too late, it is too late to make these

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of life changes. Right so, by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>get to heaven, the only the only people that will

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<v Speaker 1>be in Heaven are the ones that were forgiven on earth,

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<v Speaker 1>right does that make sense? But that's just that's very

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<v Speaker 1>simple Bible stuff. What's also kind of concerning, And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really concerning because I know that you're learning and

0:39:18.320 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you're wanting to grow, but but I want to kind

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>of show you here that your questions are these These

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<v Speaker 1>are like very universal type ideas, like everyone dies. Like

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting from your email is everyone dies, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>goes to heaven, everyone has no judgment once they're there,

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>positive or negative. And then where do we go? What's

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<v Speaker 1>where do we go from that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What do we remember?

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<v Speaker 3>That's not Bernie help me here? Where do you think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying not to get too deep? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that the does he say his.

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<v Speaker 3>Age twenty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have a fully formed close to fully

0:40:07.120 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 2>formed brain that we're talking to here. I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably getting in some conversations with some people maybe a

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit older, that are throwing a bunch of stuff

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 2>at you, and you don't really know how to defend

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>your faith and you don't really know what the Bible says.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, like Granger said, like always be just studying,

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<v Speaker 2>just like we are studying and learning, because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot there. I did he have a question at the Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's basically, once you get to heaven, your sins

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<v Speaker 1>are forgiven, he says, But does that mean you'll only

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<v Speaker 1>remember the good things or do you remember anything at all?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I think what Granger and I could say

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<v Speaker 2>here is probably I don't want to say irrelevant. But

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 2>you have to go and wrestle with this yourself. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're really gonna know, and you're really gonna learn, and

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 2>you're really gonna be convicted, I think you need to

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 2>go take the word, you need to study it. You

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<v Speaker 2>need to get connected with other believers, other non believers,

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<v Speaker 2>like be curious to have these conversations and wrestle wrestle

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<v Speaker 2>with the question. I think it's great that you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>emailing into the podcast and kind of getting getting some

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>feedback and some understanding. But I don't think that this

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>is a they're wrong, You're right, Here's here's where we

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<v Speaker 2>need to change the theology.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a lot broader of a question that

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<v Speaker 2>what best thing we can do is say, go find

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<v Speaker 2>out for yourself. Dig in and go find out for yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's definitely some things here theologically that just are misunderstandings

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 2>or he's been told other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I want you to look up something, Tristan,

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:16.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's not like you could look it up. And

0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 1>there's one place I want you to read through in context,

0:42:20.280 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 1>meaning don't google averse. Please don't do that. Don't ever

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>google a verse and look and see if it applies

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:29.279
<v Speaker 1>to your life. Instead, I want you to read in

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>context through the New Testament. Let's say you want to

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 1>start him in Matthew, start start in Matthew. It's going

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 1>to start with the genealogy of Christ or John, it's

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>going to start with creation. And I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>read through in context. And my question to you is

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to Heaven? Are you going?

0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you have a ticket?

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Basically, that's what I'm asking And that's not for your

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 1>relative to answer. That's not for for a my podcast

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to answer, that's not for Google to answer. That's for

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<v Speaker 1>John or Matthew or Mark or Luke or Romans or

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<v Speaker 1>anything in the New Testament really to answer. For you,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to find that answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going?

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<v Speaker 1>Challenge you? I challenge you that, Tristan, and I challenge

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 1>you not to google it. This is why I say Google,

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this this morning. The problem so

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<v Speaker 1>many times, especially today, is that it depends on this

0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 1>is what I was thinking. Okay, tell me if I'm wrong.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about this this morning my workout. It

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.840
<v Speaker 1>depends on what lens we're looking through. So, say we

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>have glasses. You could put glasses on, and through that

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.759
<v Speaker 1>lens you see things, and so so many times what

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 1>we want to do is we want to take the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of the world, our lives, our situations, our problems,

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:56.399
<v Speaker 1>our community, our culture, and we put that those glasses on,

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:00.720
<v Speaker 1>and then we want to read the Bible through our culture,

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<v Speaker 1>through our own problems, through who we are. We read

0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:07.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bible and we see the Bible through that lens.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.800
<v Speaker 1>But that's not what we're supposed to do. We're supposed

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:12.440
<v Speaker 1>to put on the lens of the Bible. I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about this. The Bible are the lenses you put

0:44:15.640 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>those glasses on, and so when you see the world,

0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing it through the lens of the Bible. So

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 1>then you look at your problems you're suffering, your questions

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 1>about Heaven and judgment, your questions about sins, your questions

0:44:27.880 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>about oh what happens after you die. The questions about

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 1>everything pop culture, but you're always looking at that through

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the lens of the Bible, not the other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good, That's really good.

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<v Speaker 3>So be very careful.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.359
<v Speaker 1>That's why I say put the lens of the Bible on,

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<v Speaker 1>put the glasses of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>On, and then find out this answer. Are you going

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<v Speaker 3>to heaven? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Take Grainger's challenge and then email us back. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're willing to. I mean, the thing is is like

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<v Speaker 2>it's not easy, like getting up early and studying and

0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>taking this seriously. It is a serious matter, so I

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>think it should be.

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:09.720
<v Speaker 3>But it's not easy.

0:45:09.760 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 2>But I guarantee you if you take the challenge, I

0:45:12.560 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 2>would love to hear about your journey through it. Yeah,

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 2>what you discover about this question, but also just in

0:45:20.000 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 2>your own faith journey. But thanks for writing in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question says brothers dead in combat. Hey grangeur My

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<v Speaker 1>brother is a US Air Force para rescue man PJ.

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<v Speaker 3>And.

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<v Speaker 1>On June ninth, twenty ten, helicopter Pedro sixty six was

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<v Speaker 1>shot down in Afghanistan on the way to rescue injured

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<v Speaker 1>soldiers on the battlefield. Two of his teammates died in

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<v Speaker 1>the crash. Their names were Benjamin White and Mike Flores.

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<v Speaker 1>He is still active duty and doesn't say much about combat.

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<v Speaker 1>He assures me everything is fine. A few times I

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<v Speaker 1>have seen him cry and vent about that day. We

0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.720
<v Speaker 1>my family try to console him with messages about the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. We were both raised Catholic, but I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think that he is a believer on the scale

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<v Speaker 1>like I am. He would reply with things like why

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<v Speaker 1>would God let my friends burn to death in a

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter crash? Is there anything you could offer him to

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<v Speaker 1>help understand why such events happen? I imagine you feel the

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<v Speaker 1>same pain as he does with the loss of river.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you God, bless And is there not a name?

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a name? Call this call it, call it anonymous.

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<v Speaker 2>How much time we got on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>We got about six minutes, seven minutes, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>enough time for a question like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think at the end he's asking like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>have anything for him? But I think, really what we

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 2>need to have is something for this guy. Ye brother

0:46:55.440 --> 0:46:58.120
<v Speaker 2>is probably not listening. Yeah, I don't know if we

0:46:58.200 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 2>have anything for him anyway.

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, I think that's great. I see that

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.319
<v Speaker 1>so many times on this podcast. The person emailing might

0:47:06.360 --> 0:47:07.880
<v Speaker 1>need to hear what we need to say more than

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:11.439
<v Speaker 1>the person they're asking about. And if at least it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the uh the idea on an airplane when you're

0:47:13.640 --> 0:47:17.400
<v Speaker 1>when the oxygen mask drop, put the mask on yourself first,

0:47:17.600 --> 0:47:21.719
<v Speaker 1>then your kids. So if because if you pass out,

0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you ain't helping anybody, right, So.

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<v Speaker 2>One message to your brother from us is thank you

0:47:28.400 --> 0:47:31.759
<v Speaker 2>for your service. Like I can't imagine what he's put

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<v Speaker 2>himself through and just losing his brothers that way in combat,

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, thank you for your service.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally agree what I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say something.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I say a lot of things on this podcast, and

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<v Speaker 1>not always they might not always come across as nice,

0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but I don't I don't need to be nice, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like I'm not in the business of being nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely love you, man, and I feel your heart

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<v Speaker 1>in this email. You took so much time to write

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 1>about your brother because he's hurting and you're listening to

0:48:10.160 --> 0:48:12.600
<v Speaker 1>my podcast and you're just taking a shot like maybe

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance Grange will read it, and maybe there's

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a chance my brother can get help. So I love

0:48:17.080 --> 0:48:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you for that, man, I love your heart. So what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say that I don't want to come across

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<v Speaker 1>wrong is I don't think you are saved. I don't

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>think you're a Christian. And please don't take that the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong way, because I only mean it in a way

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<v Speaker 1>to help spur you and cultivate that ground that you're

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<v Speaker 1>standing on a little bit.

0:48:42.640 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 2>Because I think that's great and I think like you

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:47.759
<v Speaker 2>can definitely, I think you got more to say. But

0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.600
<v Speaker 2>if you stop listening now, which is fine because you

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 2>heard what Granger said and you're like, ah ah, take

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.000
<v Speaker 2>that question and go to your brother and you guys,

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 2>wrestle through that. He says that, I mean, be a Christian?

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:02.759
<v Speaker 3>What do you think?

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.239
<v Speaker 2>And you, guys, like, start down that journey together. One.

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 2>There's going to be a lot of probably healing from

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.120
<v Speaker 2>trauma in that that you'll get to wrestle through together.

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>But hopefully there is salvation on the other side of

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:17.759
<v Speaker 2>it that you feel confident in and you actually know.

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<v Speaker 1>So sorry, I just had no Yeah, that's great and

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<v Speaker 1>because and the part of the reason I get that

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>that feeling is you first of all being a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>is not how you were raised.

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<v Speaker 3>And you said I was raised Catholic. But here's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do not think he is a believer on

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<v Speaker 1>the scale like I am. There is no scale of

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<v Speaker 1>being a believer. A we are all wretched sinners, rebels, undeserving,

0:49:44.480 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 1>saved by grace through faith. That's a Christian, undeserving. God

0:49:50.800 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 1>have mercy on me, a sinner. That's what the tax

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:58.200
<v Speaker 1>collector said. And he was the one justified, not the

0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Pharisee that said, thank God, I'm not like him, thank

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>God he's not on my scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder, I wonder what he I'm trying to

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.000
<v Speaker 2>think of, like any other way that he could have

0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.200
<v Speaker 2>said that and meant that other than what you're saying

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I don't know how else other than a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a scale that Catholicism will you know, kind

0:50:21.400 --> 0:50:24.840
<v Speaker 2>of lead you towards, which I think you just addressed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just thinking about if we do this live like

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<v Speaker 2>some of these follow up questions, what is that going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like people not like me?

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<v Speaker 1>Brother, I don't believe you're a Christian, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>believe you're on any scale, and I don't believe you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to heaven.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would wrestle with that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that in a way that I hope

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<v Speaker 1>challenges you to go to the Word and go to

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<v Speaker 1>the cross, go to the foot of the cross, and

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<v Speaker 1>see your suffering savior on that cross, nailed to cross,

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<v Speaker 1>with blood coming down in a way that he was

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<v Speaker 1>so deformed he was unrecognizable as a human. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at why he did that, because me and you,

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<v Speaker 1>and Bernie and your brother here rebelled against him, and

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<v Speaker 1>all of humanity rebelled against Christ. And the only way

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<v Speaker 1>to reconcile us to him was to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>cross and sacrifice as the spotless lamb, the once and

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<v Speaker 1>for all final sacrifice for us to trade so that

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<v Speaker 1>he could pay, so that in full he could pay

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<v Speaker 1>the price of our wretchedness. And when you see that

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<v Speaker 1>for what it is, and when you see that the

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<v Speaker 1>wrath of God, the wrath of God that is upon

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<v Speaker 1>me and you, was satisfied through the Cross, through that sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 1>And when that wrath was satisfied, those that look upon

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<v Speaker 1>it and believe and turn away from their lives and

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<v Speaker 1>trust in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Are saved.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe through your email that the wrath of

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<v Speaker 1>God is still upon you. As I say, seek him,

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<v Speaker 1>go to him, take on his mercy, see him on

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<v Speaker 1>the cross as that suffering savior. And when that happens

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<v Speaker 1>and you believe and you're saved, things will change also

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<v Speaker 1>for your brother, because when he sees that happen to you,

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<v Speaker 1>he will see things in a different light. He will

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<v Speaker 1>see death in a different way. Put the oxygen mask

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<v Speaker 1>on you first, and then your brother.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we got.

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<v Speaker 2>Love you guys, Amen, See you next time.

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<v Speaker 3>See y.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for joining me on the Granger Smith Podcast. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate all of you.

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