Speaker 1: Hello, Hi, What is your name?
Speaker 2: My name is Shrimp.
Speaker 1: Shrimp. What's up, Shrimp? How's life?
Speaker 2: Life is good? I've been waiting to Collin for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty excited.
Speaker 1: Fucking hell yeah, man, here we are. We are doing
Speaker 1: the Gecko Show. This is gonna be a this is
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very low key Gecko show.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck I just said. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, but I.
Speaker 2: Think they're all pretty low key.
Speaker 1: You're right, That's why I that's I feel like they're
Speaker 1: all pretty low key. So I don't know why I
Speaker 1: specifically mentioned that this was going to be low key.
Speaker 1: I think what I here's what? Okay? Actually, I'm shrimp.
Speaker 1: I feel so hard I'm shrimp. I'm completely bullshitting you
Speaker 1: right now. I know exactly why I said what I
Speaker 1: just said, and I'm gonna explain to you why I
Speaker 1: said what I just said. I I said that I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I think I'm very sleepy right now, and so
Speaker 1: I said to you, oh, this is going to be
Speaker 1: a low key Gecko session, because I was trying to
Speaker 1: absolve myself from responsibility in the event that my sleepiness
Speaker 1: makes this a bad conversation, and so I was giving
Speaker 1: myself an out so that if you know, for example,
Speaker 1: I dozed off while we were talking or spaced out,
Speaker 1: instead of being like, oh, he's kind of spacing out
Speaker 1: on me while I'm talking to him, you'll just be like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, I'm I'm expecting a chill Gecko session. Do
Speaker 1: you understand the psychology of this?
Speaker 2: But it's totally fine and Lyle. You know, if you
Speaker 2: want to tap out any point, this is your show
Speaker 2: and you can do whatever you want, all right.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you giving me permission to do that. I
Speaker 1: genuinely might take up on that. But for now, what's up, shrimp?
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about today?
Speaker 2: Not much?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm a post grad and you know, living
Speaker 3: in this pretty much recession and just having a tough
Speaker 3: time with money, and you know, I'm just struggling along
Speaker 3: a little bit, but looking for some camaraderie. You know,
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm a good company on this podcast,
Speaker 3: so I'm just looking for maybe some advice. I hear
Speaker 3: you talking about iris and I'm already involved in all that,
Speaker 3: and I'm just like, what else can I do?
Speaker 1: You know? You want? You want advice. You want financial advice.
Speaker 2: I don't want financial advice. I think I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of like looking to moan a little bit about it's
Speaker 2: tough out here for the postgrads, and I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: y'all are alone.
Speaker 1: How I have I have talked about iras on here
Speaker 1: a lot, haven't, I like a weird amount?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And you you're pretty financially literate. It's actually
Speaker 2: pretty inspiring to hear about. I do take a lot
Speaker 2: of your advice.
Speaker 1: From when I listened to Man, I gotta get a
Speaker 1: I gotta get in with Vanguard or something. Do you
Speaker 1: know what a high yield savings account is? I was
Speaker 1: talking to my friend the other day about about high
Speaker 1: yield savings accounts.
Speaker 2: I do, and I'm you know, I had to actually
Speaker 2: pay a lot of taxes because I took money out
Speaker 2: of an IRA and that I was completely oblivious to
Speaker 2: the fact that you can't do that. And I was like, crap,
Speaker 2: So no, not.
Speaker 1: IRN, not an IRA, A high yield savings account. God,
Speaker 1: this is exciting banter.
Speaker 2: A high yield we can talk about something different.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not yours, although that's not it's not your fault.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just snarking it up.
Speaker 3: Uh No, I don't have a high yield savings account.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Anyway, what did you graduate with?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: I graduated with a degree in ecology and evolutionary biology.
Speaker 1: That sounds real. How come you can get a job
Speaker 1: with that? You know what is annoying?
Speaker 2: Job?
Speaker 1: Okay, you have a job. You have a job. You
Speaker 1: have a job. I was about to say, if you
Speaker 1: you're a v you're a V tuber?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm a zoo keeper.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were a v tuber.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, no, that would be worse.
Speaker 2: Oh god, I probably actually would make more money doing that, honestly.
Speaker 1: I here's the thing is, if you graduate with something real,
Speaker 1: you deserve to make some amount of money. Like if
Speaker 1: you went if you go to school for like English
Speaker 1: or film or like theater arts. You know, it's if
Speaker 1: you and you have no money that makes sense. But
Speaker 1: if you if you went to it for like biology
Speaker 1: or chemistry or something, they should give you some money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the unfortunately thaying you know, I wanted
Speaker 2: to be a zoo keeper, and I wanted to work
Speaker 2: with idotic cannibals, and you know, I've done that, and
Speaker 2: I love my job. And there's a passion tax. You know.
Speaker 2: I've heard other people that called in before I talk
Speaker 2: about this. But you know, you get the job you
Speaker 2: love after college, and then you're kind of paying the
Speaker 2: unfortunate I guess, yeah, passion tax, and that you're not making,
Speaker 2: you know, necessarily the wage you should make, you know,
Speaker 2: but the price you pay is that you go into
Speaker 2: work every day enjoying what you do.
Speaker 1: You keep a zoo, I do I do.
Speaker 2: For the sake of anonymity. I won't say what zoo,
Speaker 2: but it is an azy a zoo. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: take care of rhinos and giraffes and africans of stock.
Speaker 1: What's an asy a zoo?
Speaker 5: So asy a.
Speaker 2: That's it's the Association of Using Aquariums. So that's like
Speaker 2: the highest, uh kind of governing body of animals and captivities.
Speaker 1: Oh so you work at like a major zoo.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, dude, hell yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you like because zoos are interesting because they're like
Speaker 1: half like entertainment tourist attraction and half educational center.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And so I like initially wanted to get
Speaker 2: into this for the sake of conservation, and you know,
Speaker 2: saving species out in the wild. So a lot of
Speaker 2: like what we do in captivity translates to what they're
Speaker 2: doing for research and conservation stuff out in the wild.
Speaker 2: So I feel good about that.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 2: I also like getting to interact with the guests like
Speaker 2: day to day and like educating people. That's a funny
Speaker 2: part of my job.
Speaker 1: Now, what's your favorite animal at the zoo?
Speaker 2: I do love the rhinos. I can't lie. I'm a
Speaker 2: rhino girl.
Speaker 1: What is it about the rhinos?
Speaker 2: They're kind of just like big horses. They're super for
Speaker 2: like gentle, they love getting scripted, they train really well,
Speaker 2: and the crash that we have are just a munch
Speaker 2: of super sweet older folks and yeah, they're they're really
Speaker 2: good kids. I love them a lot.
Speaker 6: M m.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But now, okay, so if you're not making that much money, now,
Speaker 1: is there like, uh, what's the career trajectory in zoom keeping?
Speaker 1: Can you over the years? Is it like a long
Speaker 1: term career field?
Speaker 2: That's just the thing. It's like a lot of the
Speaker 2: people in my position have been in the field for
Speaker 2: fifteen years or so, and it's like kind of they're
Speaker 2: still kind of in the same position so unfortunate that
Speaker 2: I'm a younger keeper that I've gotten the privilege to
Speaker 2: kind of move pretty quickly ahead in their career as
Speaker 2: opposed to some other people. But I think I'm as
Speaker 2: of like seeing like, oh God, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I can, you know, do this forever. As as happy
Speaker 2: as I am, I don't think it's like viable, But
Speaker 2: I think afterwards I probably want to do something with
Speaker 2: like USCA or like US Fish and Wildlife. I think
Speaker 2: that would be a probably a little bit more of
Speaker 2: a solid long term career plan. But yeah, for now,
Speaker 2: it's it's fun getting to interact with all these animals
Speaker 2: every day and train them and you know, be part
Speaker 2: of their lives.
Speaker 1: What's going on in uh US fish and Wildlife are they?
Speaker 1: Is that? Like you're do you work for the governments?
Speaker 1: Do you go fishing? What do you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Honestly, I'm not like totally sure. I'm not totally
Speaker 2: well versed in that career. I don't know many people,
Speaker 2: if any, like that are part of it. But yeah,
Speaker 2: it is part of the government. So those are the
Speaker 2: people that kind of enforce like fishing allotments, stand force
Speaker 2: like hunting laws and that kind of thing, which you know,
Speaker 2: I didn't grow a cohunting or anything, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think it's for the sake of conservation of like
Speaker 2: you know, the United States sparks and wildlife, so you
Speaker 2: know it's a good cause. But as of recently, you
Speaker 2: know the recent trunk stuff. You know, a lot of
Speaker 2: these governments have got those agencies, uh have just gotten
Speaker 2: their budget slash. So you know, we'll see in a
Speaker 2: few years you know, what the status of hiring for
Speaker 2: those agencies looks like. But I would be interested in
Speaker 2: working for those I think that's a good noble cause.
Speaker 1: What's an animal one world? What's an animal that most
Speaker 1: people don't know about? Like everyone knows about monkeys and giraffes,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. But what give us an animal where
Speaker 1: it's like I didn't even know. I thought, I give
Speaker 1: us an animal that'll make a think the animals.
Speaker 2: That's a super good question. Let me think. Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: give you guys one animal that I'm about to get
Speaker 2: on grounds at my VIOO. It's called a diker. It's
Speaker 2: the d u I K E R. And there are antelope,
Speaker 2: yeah dyker, so yellow backed diker is one of those animals.
Speaker 2: They're really neat. They're kind of like little forest antelope
Speaker 2: that are just kind of strange. I recommend looking it up.
Speaker 1: And now what do they eat?
Speaker 2: And so you all sorts of brows, which is like
Speaker 2: trees and all these all sorts of vegs kind of
Speaker 2: similar to like a what a goat would eat you know,
Speaker 2: mm hm. But they're they're kind of neat.
Speaker 1: Look do they get by? Do they get eaten by anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they can get eaten by like leopards. That's
Speaker 2: probably the most common thing. Earlier today I was doing
Speaker 2: exams on sable antelope. Those guys are pretty neat or
Speaker 2: my favorite, like weird marsupial is a water apossum. I've
Speaker 2: looked those up. They're pretty neat.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have? All right, you can have a
Speaker 1: million dollars, but all dikers have to die? What would
Speaker 1: you have if you do? No?
Speaker 2: I would not take my million dollars. The dikers can live.
Speaker 1: What what about like? Uh, what about like a species
Speaker 1: of bug? Like something no one cares about? Like you like, like,
Speaker 1: is there any species of bug that you would eradicate
Speaker 1: from the world and you get a million dollars?
Speaker 2: It's just super like simple answer, But mosquitoes can go.
Speaker 2: They don't serve any like ecological purpose. They're pretty they're
Speaker 2: pretty crappy. Bug.
Speaker 1: Now, I now I'm going to fight you on this.
Speaker 1: What is what does it mean to serve an ecological purpose?
Speaker 1: Because fucking doesn't doesn't simply existing cause an ecological purpose.
Speaker 2: That's a fair point. Yeah, I mean, I will say
Speaker 2: ecological purpose in the form I guess in terms of insects.
Speaker 2: That could be like digesting bacteria like the tritis, anything
Speaker 2: like that. Insects are pretty important in our world. But
Speaker 2: mosquitos genuinely don't serve any benefit. They don't enrich any
Speaker 2: of the the water supply. They aren't pollenizer pollinators, excuse me,
Speaker 2: like as an insect, they aren't really helping plants or
Speaker 2: animals in any way. They're just kind of vectors for disease.
Speaker 1: So you'd get rid of all of them for a
Speaker 1: million dollars, I would.
Speaker 2: There are people trying to figure out how to do
Speaker 2: that already. But yeah, I think they're it's kind of
Speaker 2: a a easy answer.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: judge on this show, but I think that's pretty fucked up.
Speaker 1: What's your name again, Shrimp? Shrimp, Shrimp? Is there anything
Speaker 1: else you want to say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 2: It costs your dollars to be kind? Just be nice
Speaker 2: to people.
Speaker 1: What if somebody asks you for what? Hold on? Hold on?
Speaker 1: Hold on? There have been many times where somebody asks
Speaker 1: me for a dollar and it would be nicer to
Speaker 1: give them the dollar, And sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I do. But that in that situation, it
Speaker 1: doesn't cost zero dollars to be kind.
Speaker 2: I guess that's fair.
Speaker 1: Fine, So it costs, but there are I would rephrase
Speaker 1: what you said. I would say it costs zero dollars
Speaker 1: to be kind in certain situations, and in other situations
Speaker 1: it will cost more money.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a fair point. I did get heckled
Speaker 2: by a musician holding a bucket recently for a dollar,
Speaker 2: and I digital kinds by giving him a dollar. And
Speaker 2: I guess that wasn't free.
Speaker 1: So you're right, Thank you, shrimp.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, lyle, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of more. Uh, what when else
Speaker 1: does it cost of Christmas? If you've given people Christmas presents,
Speaker 1: that's nice. That costs money. Yeah, there's no there's a
Speaker 1: lot of ways we're being kind costs money. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to go more. It's like most ways of being kind,
Speaker 1: like the ways that if the ways of being kind
Speaker 1: that don't cost money are kind of bullshit, Like holding
Speaker 1: a door open for someone that doesn't cost any money,
Speaker 1: but nobody's actually, nobody's life is genuinely positively impacted that
Speaker 1: much by someone holding a door open for them. So
Speaker 1: if you want to be really kind to somebody, give
Speaker 1: them three thousand dollars, they will that will impact their
Speaker 1: life and give them joy, but it won't be free
Speaker 1: for you. Lyle, Hey, Hi, who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 5: Yeah? My name is Jay. How are you?
Speaker 1: Jay? How am I? I'm actually doing all right today.
Speaker 1: I feel like actually I feel pretty stable. I feel
Speaker 1: pretty normal. I feel safe. Do you feel safe?
Speaker 5: I do feel safe. I'm at home with my wife
Speaker 5: and children, and yeah, I feel I feel pretty safe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: How long have you had a wife and child?
Speaker 5: Well, I've been married for about five years and we
Speaker 5: just had our third kid on the twelfth of last month.
Speaker 1: Three children. Let me ask you some is there anything
Speaker 1: like what how old were you when you how old
Speaker 1: were you when you had your first kid.
Speaker 5: I was twenty four, about to turn twenty five.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, is your how significantly different is your life
Speaker 1: before you had kids to after?
Speaker 5: Hmmm? I would I would say it's been a very
Speaker 5: post positive change. Before I had kids, I was just
Speaker 5: kind of running the mut and doing a bunch of
Speaker 5: drugs and not really caring. And now that I have kids,
Speaker 5: I'm stable and work a lot and have responsibility and
Speaker 5: I take that very seriously. So yeah, I would say
Speaker 5: it's pretty significant change.
Speaker 1: What kind of drugs were you doing?
Speaker 5: Oh man, a lot. I was drinking, smoking weed, snorting demali, cocaine, LSD, mushrooms. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just parting it up, you know.
Speaker 1: And have you completely utterly ceased the drug use since
Speaker 1: you had your first kid or have you found some time?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: Look, you don't want to be a piece of shit
Speaker 1: alcohol like that, but do you are you ever like, hey, honey,
Speaker 1: can you watch the kids for a weekend so I
Speaker 1: can do a bunch of drugs?
Speaker 5: Definitely not. You know I stopped smoking weed about a
Speaker 5: year ago. Well, I can't say completely. I've smoked about
Speaker 5: four times since last March, and I drink pretty regularly.
Speaker 5: But nothing crazy. I'll drink you know, maybe four beers
Speaker 5: four to six beers a couple of times a night,
Speaker 5: I mean a couple of times weekly, so you know,
Speaker 5: nothing significant. But I just want to say really quick,
Speaker 5: holy shit, I am talking to lyle I. Bro. I
Speaker 5: was just watching you on YouTube and talking to my
Speaker 5: wife because I've been listening to you for like five years,
Speaker 5: and then I saw that you were alive and I
Speaker 5: called you, and Bro, I cannot believe I am actually
Speaker 5: talking to you right now. I have called you probably
Speaker 5: over five hundred times away of the years.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is just awesome, dude. Thanks man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Bro, I enjoy your content. I love watching your
Speaker 5: YouTube videos. I listened to you at work all the time.
Speaker 5: I listened to your podcast daily. I just want to
Speaker 5: say that I just like, Bro, this is awesome. Like
Speaker 5: I can't believe I got connected to you.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That makes me. That makes me feel really nice.
Speaker 1: I always, yeah, I get in my head all the
Speaker 1: time about like, oh, I don't know if people still
Speaker 1: listen to this show. I've been thinking about that, uh
Speaker 1: the entire time I've been doing it, even like I've
Speaker 1: six months in. I was like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: long this journey is gonna last. So to have someone
Speaker 1: listening for five years is very very nice. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: What did you say your name is? Did I get
Speaker 1: your name?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's just say my name is Jay Jay?
Speaker 1: All right? Well interesting, Okay, So I have a lot
Speaker 1: of things about your life that I'm generally curious about.
Speaker 1: But if you've listened to the show for so long,
Speaker 1: I have to ask, is there anything that you always,
Speaker 1: as you've listened, thought that you might want to talk
Speaker 1: about when you got the chance to talk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. And I think talking about my
Speaker 5: life now was a good preface to what I would
Speaker 5: want to discuss if you would like to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hit me.
Speaker 5: All right? Well, man, when I was fifteen, you know,
Speaker 5: I grew up in a pretty abusive household, both with
Speaker 5: my stepdad. My mom she wasn't too bad, but my
Speaker 5: stepdad was pretty bad and my dad was pretty bad.
Speaker 5: And I ran away from my mom's house and I
Speaker 5: was on the run for man, I don't know, like
Speaker 5: three months. I stopped going to school and when when
Speaker 5: they found me, they put me into like this. Uh man,
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what to call it. I would say
Speaker 5: it was like kind of a holding stage where I
Speaker 5: was there with a bunch of other kids, and man,
Speaker 5: it was kind of like a like a juvenile pod, right,
Speaker 5: but it wasn't like jail, like they couldn't touch you.
Speaker 5: You could leave. So I ended up doing that. So
Speaker 5: I'm in Utah and at that point I ended up
Speaker 5: in Salt Lake with this kid I had met at
Speaker 5: that at that center, and uh, we ran away. It
Speaker 5: was like man nine or ten at night, and we
Speaker 5: hopped on the tracks which connects like the the Wahsatch Front,
Speaker 5: which is just the mountain range. So we hopped on
Speaker 5: the tracks and we rode out to Salt Lake, hoping
Speaker 5: that no one would try to check our tickets, and
Speaker 5: no one did. And then we got off in Salt Lake
Speaker 5: in the Rose Park area and we just kind of
Speaker 5: walked around and we were just like, man, we should
Speaker 5: get some weed. Like, let's try to find some weed.
Speaker 5: So we ended up at the seven to eleven. We
Speaker 5: met this homeless guy and he was like, yeah, come
Speaker 5: back and we could smoke weeds. So he had like
Speaker 5: this little stack sort of set up behind like this
Speaker 5: car wash, So we smoked some weed with him. We
Speaker 5: spent the night and he was like, yeah, you can
Speaker 5: come back if you don't have a place to stay,
Speaker 5: you know. And he wasn't like weird or anything like.
Speaker 5: He was just you know, helping us out really and
Speaker 5: they we were like okay. So the next day we
Speaker 5: came back towards the end of the night and he
Speaker 5: ended up getting like some meth. So I'm fifteen away
Speaker 5: from this place, I'm on the run again, and we
Speaker 5: smoked math all night and so like, man, I remember
Speaker 5: I had checked the time and I was like, what
Speaker 5: time is it and it was like, you know, nine
Speaker 5: am or something, and I was like, holy crap, Like
Speaker 5: we were up all night, bro, And I was just wandering,
Speaker 5: like I don't I think it was like West Valley
Speaker 5: at that point. I don't even know where I was.
Speaker 5: A cop ended up picking me up. I turned sixteen
Speaker 5: in juvenile detention and spent a year in a boys
Speaker 5: home and yeah, bro, just an absolutely insane time.
Speaker 1: And how what that was? That was over the course
Speaker 1: of three months.
Speaker 5: Well not the whole thing. So, like I said, I
Speaker 5: ran away when I was fifteen, and like, I was
Speaker 5: on the run for three months then they found me.
Speaker 5: I was in that place for like a week or
Speaker 5: two before me and this kid decided to run away,
Speaker 5: and I would say I was on the run at
Speaker 5: that point for another I don't know, a couple of weeks,
Speaker 5: maybe a month, and then, like I said, I got
Speaker 5: picked up by a cop. He realized who I was.
Speaker 5: He put me in this like like this kid's home
Speaker 5: again when they were gonna transport me up back. So
Speaker 5: I spent a couple I think it was like a
Speaker 5: month in Juvie, like I said, I spent I turned
Speaker 5: sixteen in Juvie. And then they were trying to find
Speaker 5: like a rehab center for me, and so I spent
Speaker 5: a year in that boy's home in like the middle
Speaker 5: of Utah because I was considered a flight risk, so
Speaker 5: it was in the middle of nowhere, so there was
Speaker 5: nowhere to go. And yeah, then I completed that successfully
Speaker 5: and my life just continued to move forward.
Speaker 2: M M.
Speaker 1: And did you end up going to college after this
Speaker 1: or did you? Did you graduate high school?
Speaker 5: So I didn't graduate per se because no one would
Speaker 5: let me in. I ended up getting my ged and
Speaker 5: right now I am trying to complete my bachelor's What
Speaker 5: do you do for what I've been going So I
Speaker 5: worked for a landscaping company, so I do like a
Speaker 5: multitude of things there. I do like the fertilizing part
Speaker 5: of it. And then also over the winter when it's
Speaker 5: less busy, I'm pretty tech savvy. I built them a website,
Speaker 5: and like I said, I'm going to college and I'm
Speaker 5: trying to pursue pursue a marketing degree. So right now
Speaker 5: I'm helping them with marketing, and over the winter, I
Speaker 5: help them with marketing. I do like social media posts
Speaker 5: and Google ads and yeah.
Speaker 1: So, and what's the story of how you Is it
Speaker 1: your your wife right now? Is this the mother of
Speaker 1: all three of your kids?
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, you married for five years.
Speaker 1: What's the story of how you met her?
Speaker 5: So we met on Facebook dating out of all of
Speaker 5: the things, and so she was about an hour away,
Speaker 5: and I went up and we kind of hit it off,
Speaker 5: and then we kept talking. And yeah, that's been the
Speaker 5: story ever since. We met the summer of twenty twenty
Speaker 5: and we had our first go ahead, go ahead, sorry,
Speaker 5: oh yeah, I was just gonna say we met the
Speaker 5: summer of twenty twenty, and we had our daughter the
Speaker 5: summer of twenty.
Speaker 1: One, and no drugs you said, we're totally done with
Speaker 1: drugs now.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, like I said, since last March, I
Speaker 5: quote unquote, I guess have quit weed, but I've smoked
Speaker 5: four times in the past year. But like I said,
Speaker 5: I drink beer. But yeah, I don't do anything anymore.
Speaker 5: I take the responsibility of being a dad very seriously,
Speaker 5: and I bust my ass at work and try to
Speaker 5: get over time. And yeah, no drugs, man, no drugs.
Speaker 5: I take the responsibility of providing for my children very seriously.
Speaker 1: How is how is that responsibility going for you?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you enjoying it? Are you feeling fulfilled and happy
Speaker 1: and safe and all those good things?
Speaker 5: Man? I mean, don't get me wrong, I am fulfilled.
Speaker 5: It's just a lot, especially you know, I have a
Speaker 5: four four year old, a two year old and a
Speaker 5: one month old, and it's it's like a circus. I
Speaker 5: love them a lot. It's just sometimes it's very stressful
Speaker 5: and and I don't I don't, I don't know how
Speaker 5: to express those feelings. It's like I am, I'm definitely fulfilled.
Speaker 5: I love them a lot. Sometimes though I wish we
Speaker 5: would have waited until we were a little more stable.
Speaker 5: And it's not like we're not stable. You know, my
Speaker 5: wife and I we both work and we have a
Speaker 5: decent sized apartment, and but it's definitely a lot. You know,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna turn twenty nine in a couple of months,
Speaker 5: and it's definitely a lot right now. You know, like
Speaker 5: people at work they're eight six years older and they
Speaker 5: don't have three kids, And I don't know. Sometimes I'm
Speaker 5: just like, man, what would it be like if we
Speaker 5: weren't so financially stressed, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 5: but I definitely enjoy being a parent. Bro. I love
Speaker 5: them so much and they make me so happy, and
Speaker 5: but it's definitely very stressful to try to make everything work,
Speaker 5: you know, rent and food and diapers and wipes and
Speaker 5: you know, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So but I bet it makes you. My understanding of
Speaker 1: it is that it puts you very much like in life.
Speaker 1: You know, there's not a lot of time to you know,
Speaker 1: fritter away thinking about bullshit when you have, you know,
Speaker 1: all that responsibility.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, Like I said, I work full time, and
Speaker 5: you know, I come home and my wife works nice
Speaker 5: because child cares insanely expensive, and so I come home
Speaker 5: and she leaves and I take care of them, and
Speaker 5: when I put them to bed, I do school. I'm
Speaker 5: in school full time. It's all online. Yeah, there's not
Speaker 5: a lot of time to to worry about bullshit. I
Speaker 5: guess you just got to do it. And I know
Speaker 5: at a certain point in my life financial stress will
Speaker 5: go away. My wife. My wife wants to do school
Speaker 5: and I'm currently doing my school, and you know, hopefully
Speaker 5: it will all pay off in a couple of years,
Speaker 5: will be finding like financially stable for once in our life,
Speaker 5: and everything will just kind of be smooth sailing. That's
Speaker 5: the hope and the dream of of course.
Speaker 1: What is your name again? I know you've made one
Speaker 1: up for me.
Speaker 5: Oh it's Jay. Jay.
Speaker 1: Well, thanks for sharing your life story. Jay is interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about like, uh, like kids
Speaker 1: and what life with kids would would look like. So
Speaker 1: it's definitely a subject that I'm quite fascinated in. But
Speaker 1: it seems across the board the people that I've talked
Speaker 1: to about it feel as though the responsibility that it
Speaker 1: gives them is like a good thing, uh and makes them,
Speaker 1: you know, feel fulfilled and nice. So I appreciate you
Speaker 1: giving giving us your perspective on on how it's a
Speaker 1: role in your life.
Speaker 5: Man, can I can I ask you a question?
Speaker 4: Lyle?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead and hit me.
Speaker 5: Like I said, I've listened to you forever, and I
Speaker 5: listened to like I listened to your podcast today and
Speaker 5: just like five minutes ago, I was watching you on YouTube.
Speaker 5: Do you have someone special in your life? Like, I
Speaker 5: don't hear anyone really asking about you.
Speaker 1: People ask about me. People do ask about me.
Speaker 5: Not very often though.
Speaker 1: You look just at the beginning, Look at the beginning
Speaker 1: of this call, you asked me how I was doing.
Speaker 1: That Was that was asking about me?
Speaker 5: Right? I? Yeah, I guess that was.
Speaker 1: Asking about me. I feel like I volunteer a decent
Speaker 1: amount of maybe of I guess I volunteer a decent
Speaker 1: amount of I guess emotional information, uh like, less logistical information.
Speaker 1: But I'm not married. If that's what you're asking.
Speaker 5: No, that's not I would. Do you have anyone special
Speaker 5: in your life?
Speaker 1: Do I have anything that maybe that maybe.
Speaker 5: You feel like, yeah, I could have kids, Yeah, I
Speaker 5: could spend forever with this person person.
Speaker 1: No, I don't have anyone in my life that I'm
Speaker 1: at this moment, like ready to spend forever with.
Speaker 5: Right, right.
Speaker 1: That being being I think being married and having children
Speaker 1: would be nice, but I also feel it's something I
Speaker 1: would definitely like to do in my lifetime.
Speaker 5: But I could see you being a great parent, just
Speaker 5: like like I don't know, like just listening to you
Speaker 5: and watching you all these years, like I feel like
Speaker 5: I know you in a sense even though we've never met, right,
Speaker 5: And I feel like you would be a very good parent,
Speaker 5: Like you're just like calm, collective, and I don't know,
Speaker 5: some of the insights you have have really helped you
Speaker 5: know in my life and them, I feel like you'd
Speaker 5: be a good parent, Lyle, I feel like you'd be
Speaker 5: a big ass dad.
Speaker 1: You want to fucking be my son, I'll adopt you.
Speaker 5: Hell yeah, even though I'm older than you.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I'll be your son. I'll be your I'll
Speaker 1: be your son. You can be my son, and I'll
Speaker 1: be I'll be your father, and h your children. Your
Speaker 1: children could be my grandchildren and and that way, and
Speaker 1: then you can see. Then you can see for yourself
Speaker 1: whether or not I would be a good father. You
Speaker 1: can see for yourself. I'll feed you, I'll uh what
Speaker 1: I'll change your diaper. I'll do it all. You'll be like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'll be literally you'll be spade out on a table
Speaker 1: and you can take a ship in your underwear and
Speaker 1: I'll change them and you could be like I was right, dude,
Speaker 1: Liles of gre are you fucking dead?
Speaker 5: I don't think you want to see that, but hey,
Speaker 5: if you want to go that route, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Bro, what's your day? Is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to thee I'm sorry I forgot the fake
Speaker 1: name that you gave me again, but I'm bad with it.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer Before we go?
Speaker 5: I just want to say, like, this is awesome. I
Speaker 5: didn't expect to get through. I really enjoyed talking to you,
Speaker 5: and I hope you keep doing this podcast. I know
Speaker 5: you have you know your own doubts as a human,
Speaker 5: but Bro, just keep pushing forward. And like I I
Speaker 5: every every day when I get to work, I look
Speaker 5: on Spotify and see if a new podcast came out,
Speaker 5: and if it does, You're the first thing I listened
Speaker 5: to in the morning. So just just keep pushing. Bro.
Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for having me in your ears. Man, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I'll I'll keep seeing you around the
Speaker 1: universe of the computer, my friends. And congratulations on your
Speaker 1: beautiful life.
Speaker 5: You know what. Congratulations on your beautiful life as well. Le.
Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy. Hey, take care man, you too. That
Speaker 1: was a sweet guy. That was a nice guy. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be my son one day. I respect, respect having
Speaker 1: the responsibility to have kids. Do I have somebody special
Speaker 1: in my life?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: I am? You know? Nah, you know whatever. All right,
Speaker 1: let's keep going. Hi.
Speaker 4: What's your name, Darren?
Speaker 1: Darren? What's up? Darren?
Speaker 4: Isn't that much bro, It's a cloudy day. Decided to
Speaker 4: call you, and I'm surprised I got through.
Speaker 1: Here we are, Darren. Here we are, Darren. Here we are.
Speaker 1: We're talking on a podcast cast listened to by at
Speaker 1: least one hundred people, which is pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: We're chatting, we're chatting. We're alive. What's up?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, how's it going? Man, Let's talk.
Speaker 4: It's going like I will say, life is going all right.
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm living life, you know, trying to
Speaker 4: have a good time. You know, we're here in the earth. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, I decided to call you, and I'm the
Speaker 4: surprise that I got through. That's amazing. It's it's it's
Speaker 4: freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: Did you have anything you want to talk about today, Darren?
Speaker 1: It's fine if not, we can just palor around.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess I'll say light you. You know, well,
Speaker 4: what will you thinking about? What is life like? What?
Speaker 4: What's the point of living?
Speaker 1: What is life? And what's the point of living? Those
Speaker 1: are great questions. I've been wrestling with a lot of
Speaker 1: those questions, and you know, Darren, I have realized something.
Speaker 1: I've realized something, Darren. Do you know what I've realized.
Speaker 1: I've realized that the questions, what's the point of living?
Speaker 1: What is life? You know? What happens after we die?
Speaker 1: What is consciousness? Why am I?
Speaker 4: Me?
Speaker 1: And other people are other people? I've been really I've
Speaker 1: just deeply been wrestling with a lot of these questions
Speaker 1: in kind of a scary existential way for about two months.
Speaker 1: It's been really scary and weird, and I felt like
Speaker 1: I've been in a Bizarrokohan Brothers movie or something, just
Speaker 1: by the nature of my own consciousness being a bit
Speaker 1: of a torment for it, and not because I'm dark
Speaker 1: and cool, but just because it's bizarre. It's a weird
Speaker 1: thing to be alive. And I've been thinking about the
Speaker 1: answers to these questions and then I realized, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: I'm actually not dark and cool at all, because people
Speaker 1: have been trying to answer these questions since the fucking
Speaker 1: dawn of man. I mean, philosophers and whatever, science, fucking
Speaker 1: people and religion people, everyone's been trying to answer these questions.
Speaker 1: It's people way smarter than me. I mean, I've dedicated
Speaker 1: two months of going on Reddit and talking to chat
Speaker 1: GPT other people. They dedicate their whole lives. They read books,
Speaker 1: they write books, They try to find the answers to
Speaker 1: the universe. They take science, they do the theory of
Speaker 1: the unit, whatever the fuck that is by that fucking
Speaker 1: the guy in the wheelchair, you know, Okay, And you
Speaker 1: know what's the craziest part about all these people throughout
Speaker 1: the history of consciousness looking for the answers to all
Speaker 1: these questions, Darren, do you want to know the craziest thing.
Speaker 4: What's the craziest thing.
Speaker 1: They don't have an answer, Darren. They don't have an
Speaker 1: objective answer to any of these questions. So my dumb
Speaker 1: ass is not gonna get high and figure it out
Speaker 1: right now and probably not ever in my lifetime, and
Speaker 1: possibly not ever for the entirety that any life is
Speaker 1: ever any all things. And so you know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do in the face of that information, Darren. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go on walks. I'm gonna hang out with
Speaker 1: my friends. I'm gonna make cool interesting things. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: eat a chicken parmesan sandwich. I'm gonna watch a YouTube
Speaker 1: video that goes through the history of weird pop tart flavors.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna die, And you know what, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be as nice as it can be. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do.
Speaker 4: I could agree with that right now. I'm just you know,
Speaker 4: living life and putting putting my dog. You know it's
Speaker 4: a good thing. Life is, you know, having a good time.
Speaker 4: Life is living with your pets, Life is living good
Speaker 4: with your friends, and life is you know what, did
Speaker 4: whatever you want have a good time. You're hearing this
Speaker 4: thing called earth, and you know what make the best
Speaker 4: out of it?
Speaker 1: Do you think the you know it's is when people
Speaker 1: would say before I went crazy, I people would say, oh,
Speaker 1: are we like the idea that we're living in a
Speaker 1: simulation that never made sense, That never made sense to me.
Speaker 1: And then lately the idea I've come around to it
Speaker 1: that we might be living in a simulation.
Speaker 4: You might never know. We could have taken the rip
Speaker 4: red pill, blue pill sometime in our life, and you know,
Speaker 4: either we're living here in this life or we're living
Speaker 4: here in this simulation, but who knows. Man, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's like we're living in GTA. You know, life is
Speaker 4: fucking wild and things could happen left to right.
Speaker 1: You ever seen The Truman Show?
Speaker 4: Yes, I have, it's a good movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think about that ship not that like life's
Speaker 1: the TV show. But it's a very narcissistic thing to think.
Speaker 1: But there also is like weird, like your consciousness is
Speaker 1: the only consciousness that's verifiable. There's a word for this.
Speaker 1: I think I talked about this in the end of
Speaker 1: recent podcasts. And so you could argue that because you're
Speaker 1: the only conscious being that you can like truly verify
Speaker 1: their consciousness, that you actually are at the center of
Speaker 1: the universe and you are the only living thing and
Speaker 1: your personal life is a simulation and you live in
Speaker 1: the Truman Show.
Speaker 4: It's like saying, like there's infinite stars. You know, each
Speaker 4: star has its own life, and we could be one
Speaker 4: of those stars in this infinite universe. You know, I'm
Speaker 4: a sucker for galaxies and space and stars like that.
Speaker 4: But you know I always look up into the sky.
Speaker 4: I'm like, you know what that's in the whole? Another
Speaker 4: planet when I'm thingling like that, and you know it
Speaker 4: could be different.
Speaker 1: What planet do you want to visit the most?
Speaker 4: To be honest, I do not know. But if is
Speaker 4: out there and the stars, sky space stuff like that,
Speaker 4: I would like to visit a planet where it's like,
Speaker 4: you know what, life is good. Life is better than
Speaker 4: what I'm living at.
Speaker 1: Would you ever go to the Moon?
Speaker 4: I would love to.
Speaker 1: What would you want to do there?
Speaker 5: Space walker?
Speaker 4: You know, space jump and you know, just throw myself
Speaker 4: out there, levitate, you know, and just discover moon people
Speaker 4: out there. If it's possible.
Speaker 1: Bro, if you were on the Moon, you would be
Speaker 1: the moon person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. I'll be the only moon person on
Speaker 4: the Moon. On the Moon.
Speaker 5: What is it?
Speaker 1: Who are you? Darren? Who are you? What is your
Speaker 1: life like?
Speaker 4: My life is I'm a guy who likes going to shows.
Speaker 4: That's to work day job from seven to three. And
Speaker 4: you know, enjoys a beer here and there. Why not
Speaker 4: enjoys a beer in there, but enjoys the beer every day.
Speaker 4: And just like pittying my dogs. You know, I'm a
Speaker 4: dog person. But it's just life. How life is treating
Speaker 4: me right now. I'm trying to make the best out
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 1: Let me think, here, uh, what what is your day job?
Speaker 4: I do landscaping?
Speaker 1: Landscaping? Well, who is that in the background?
Speaker 4: That was my best friend? Works with me too.
Speaker 1: I like how you were about to say friend and
Speaker 1: you're like, no, no, no, I must clarify that this
Speaker 1: is my best friend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have a lot. I have a lot of
Speaker 4: best friends from since school and they've been we've been
Speaker 4: you know, friends ever since then. I considered that I
Speaker 4: consider them as family best friends all that.
Speaker 1: Do you do? You rank your friends in your head?
Speaker 1: Very often? Like oh, this is like, have do you
Speaker 1: ever could you tell me you're thanking of all your friends?
Speaker 4: I used to back in my space days, you know,
Speaker 4: you could choose your top six, But nowadays it's just like,
Speaker 4: you know, they've been there for since I was since
Speaker 4: I was introduced to them, and you know they're all
Speaker 4: number one.
Speaker 1: To be honest, that's really nice. There's none that you like.
Speaker 1: Are you friends with anyone that you're just kind of
Speaker 1: friends with because they've been around and you secretly hate them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there was one friend. I'm not sure if I
Speaker 4: could say is I'm not sure if I could.
Speaker 1: Say his name, but I mean you've you physically can, but.
Speaker 4: Idea, we we used to call him Chewbacca, but well
Speaker 4: not not Chewboka, but like more like Youbaca in the way.
Speaker 4: It was just a joke, a gag. I guess you
Speaker 4: could say he was he was a I guess say
Speaker 4: he was a good friend. It just you know, he
Speaker 4: he I guess he could He tried too much to
Speaker 4: be with us. And we can understand, like you try
Speaker 4: to hang out with us a lot, but we were
Speaker 4: just we weren't just feeling it with him. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean, we we kept him around here and there,
Speaker 4: but he was a bit too much sometimes. And yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess he was one of those friends here. You know,
Speaker 4: he's okay in a way, but you know he was
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 1: What was it about him that that you felt mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: He tried to kick it with us almost every day,
Speaker 4: but he always buys He always buy his pizza almost
Speaker 4: every day.
Speaker 1: So wait is why? Why is is? Do you do
Speaker 1: you not want to hang out with your friends every day?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would, but sometimes there's days where he's like,
Speaker 4: you know, you try, you try to doing your own thing,
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, you just want you just
Speaker 4: want to do your own thing, and you know, every
Speaker 4: other day hang out with your friends, but no, this guy,
Speaker 4: this guy used to fucking want to hang out every
Speaker 4: day of the week, every day of the month, like
Speaker 4: be there constantly. I'm like, Okay, I understand you want
Speaker 4: to be there, but like, come on, like at least
Speaker 4: let me chill for a day or so, like, you know,
Speaker 4: like you're cool enough, but it's just it just kind
Speaker 4: of gets annoying here and there. You know, I'm not
Speaker 4: talking bad about it. He was cool enough, but after
Speaker 4: a while, it's it's just it's just like you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm like, come on, like, I'm pretty sure you got
Speaker 4: other people to hang out with here and there, but
Speaker 4: to hang out with me twenty four seven, It's it's
Speaker 4: all right, I guess do.
Speaker 1: You think do you think you're fun to hang out
Speaker 1: with twenty four to seven.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't say I'm not that fun from
Speaker 4: my perspective. I don't know how other how other people
Speaker 4: think about me, but I like to have a fun time,
Speaker 4: you know, I like to have a good time with people.
Speaker 1: What do you what do you usually do when you're
Speaker 1: having a fun time?
Speaker 4: You know, I try to drink with them, you have
Speaker 4: a good time, make jokes and and you know it's
Speaker 4: just well, I guess whatever, whatever every other people try
Speaker 4: to do, you know, just make it, make make make
Speaker 4: the whatever time is happening around you, guys the best time.
Speaker 4: You know, you can never know when when when it
Speaker 4: could be the last day you can hang out with them.
Speaker 4: And to me, it's always like yeah, like I'm happy
Speaker 4: to see you, but you know, just make the best
Speaker 4: out of it.
Speaker 1: What's your name, Darren?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Did you make a nice guy? Darren?
Speaker 4: I don't see it. I feel like I don't feel
Speaker 4: like I'm the best guy. I just try to make
Speaker 4: the best of the best of everything.
Speaker 1: Why do you what? What made you say that just
Speaker 1: now that you don't feel like you're the best guy?
Speaker 4: Because I see other people that make the best of
Speaker 4: things with everyone else. And I feel like I'm used
Speaker 4: like a regular guy in this earst and I follow
Speaker 4: like to me, like like an example, Ozzy Osbourne, that guy,
Speaker 4: I wish I could have a life like him. You know,
Speaker 4: that guy's a fucking that guy. To me, he's a
Speaker 4: fucking legend, and I wish I could have a life
Speaker 4: like him. But not like a drug addict. But I
Speaker 4: used to have a life like him. But to me,
Speaker 4: I try to I try to live a life like
Speaker 4: a rock star. I try to make the best out
Speaker 4: of it. I'm sure I've gotten in trouble here and there,
Speaker 4: but you know what, I'm just happy to be here,
Speaker 4: happy to have their friends, the best friends I have
Speaker 4: to be honest, they're brothers to me. Like everyone around
Speaker 4: me is like brother to me, and it's his brother sister.
Speaker 4: But you know what, it's just life is life?
Speaker 1: Why do you want to live like Ozzy Osbourne?
Speaker 4: I look up I will say, I will look up
Speaker 4: to him. He's he's he's a god to me in
Speaker 4: a way, but not the not the drug addict part.
Speaker 1: Okay, well then tell me, tell me what what parts
Speaker 1: do you do you desire for your life that you
Speaker 1: scraped from.
Speaker 4: Like going going going shows and play in front of
Speaker 4: a lot of people. Because I'm I'm a musician myself.
Speaker 4: I play drums, and you know, I wish to be
Speaker 4: achieve that goal like all he had, I mean, he
Speaker 4: still has it. He's old, he's playing in his last
Speaker 4: show and fucking Birmingham, which I would wish to go.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's not gonna. That's not gonna.
Speaker 1: Birmingham, Alabama.
Speaker 4: U k u k oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: You ever been to the UK?
Speaker 4: Uh? No? But I was planning to go to Dublin
Speaker 4: maybe later this year and like in just lie August,
Speaker 4: but I don't think that's gonna happen anymore. But maybe,
Speaker 4: I mean next year I'll plan to go to Europe
Speaker 4: because right now I'm just visiting Japan. That's you know,
Speaker 4: that's a fucking amazing spot to visit.
Speaker 1: But you're in Japan right now?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I wish it was. But I've been
Speaker 4: there twice already.
Speaker 1: Oh when are you going to Japan?
Speaker 4: Hopefully in Halloween? Oh hopefully?
Speaker 1: Why did you? Why did your Dublin trip get canceled?
Speaker 4: What happened?
Speaker 1: Why did your Dublin trip get canceled?
Speaker 4: Well? Because the thing is is I'm in a financial spot.
Speaker 4: It's kind of crappy right now for me. But it just, uh,
Speaker 4: it just I'm not sure if I'm gonna have enough
Speaker 4: months to go out there, like do that your trip,
Speaker 4: then go and do that Japan trip. So I'm kind
Speaker 4: of in the pickle if debating and going in Europe
Speaker 4: or Japan. But for me, it's just I want to
Speaker 4: go to Japan more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also want to get Japan more. Man, Japan rocks.
Speaker 4: It's amazing. It's crazy because the first time I went,
Speaker 4: I like, when I went, I told myself, I'm here
Speaker 4: in Japan, a new country, like foreign to me. The
Speaker 4: first time I do is try to try a fucking
Speaker 4: Japanese resident out there. You know, I'm not gonna try
Speaker 4: any American restaurants that are out there. I'll try a
Speaker 4: Japanese restaurant out there. I went there fucking amazing, Like
Speaker 4: the guy gave me a bors steak, like a bor steak,
Speaker 4: never had that before. And I visited that spot. I
Speaker 4: visited a guy like two three times when I was there,
Speaker 4: and so I'm hey, next time next time I come here,
Speaker 4: I'm a fucking visit your restaurant, I said, first thing
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do. So I went there again that same
Speaker 4: year later later and I walked in and I'm like hey,
Speaker 4: and he's like, oh, my best friend. I was like what.
Speaker 4: I was like, holy shit, that's that's that's fucking amazing, dude.
Speaker 4: Like being recognized, like being remember being remembered by someone
Speaker 4: out there, like you've only met once and he remembers
Speaker 4: you a couple of months later, and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: that's fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that's really nice. You have friends in Tokyo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can say friends in Tokyo. It's it's it's cool.
Speaker 4: It's it's fucking cool.
Speaker 1: Darren. Is there anything else you want to say to
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go, I.
Speaker 4: Will say, you know, Taro and listening, you know, I listen.
Speaker 4: I listen to you on on Spotify cool and on
Speaker 4: YouTube this and that. You know. I just you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's crazy to be on live right now. I
Speaker 4: never thought this is what happens my first time calling,
Speaker 4: and it's crazy. Also, I want to say to all
Speaker 4: the people that work in landscaping, like me, fucking victims
Speaker 4: up because it's a hard work out there. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm happy to be on therapy. Get go, I'm happy.
Speaker 4: You know, it's fucking amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Darren, have a good rest of
Speaker 1: the night.
Speaker 4: I'll show you. Hold up, how are you doing? How
Speaker 4: are you?
Speaker 1: How am I doing? How am I doing? Yeah? You
Speaker 1: want to know how I'm doing, Darren?
Speaker 4: Yes, tell me, tell me how are you doing?
Speaker 1: You want to know how I'm doing? You motherfucker. You
Speaker 1: want to know how I'm doing?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yes?
Speaker 1: All I want to do is eat Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, all I want to do? Are you? I
Speaker 1: don't know where my ambition went. I mean, it's still here.
Speaker 1: I'm very ambitious mentally, but physically I'm just oh my god,
Speaker 1: all I want to do is like, fuck dude, right now,
Speaker 1: my like, if I could do any you know, you
Speaker 1: know the question if you can wave a magic wand
Speaker 1: and me doing anything with your life? Yeah, I've been thinking,
Speaker 1: and you know a lot of throughout my life, A
Speaker 1: lot of the answers to that question. If usually involved
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, being on a like
Speaker 1: like some kind of something something creative, or you know,
Speaker 1: being in an orgy or something like that. But right now.
Speaker 1: If you I really mean this, If I could be
Speaker 1: doing anything with my life in this very moment, right now,
Speaker 1: I would be eating. I would eat two pints of
Speaker 1: Ben and Jerry's peanut butter s'mores ice cream. No, I
Speaker 1: would get one pint of Ben and Jerry Peanut butter
Speaker 1: smores ice cream and then another pint of Ben and
Speaker 1: Jerry Peanut butter half baked, and I would just do that.
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know I and I
Speaker 1: that's all I want to do with my life right now.
Speaker 1: That's like my career goal right now is to eat
Speaker 1: that fucking ice cream. I don't know why. And I
Speaker 1: don't even feel guilty, man, It's just that's just how
Speaker 1: I feel. I don't think I'm gonna do it. I don't,
Speaker 1: but that just feels like like in the narrative of
Speaker 1: my life, it feels like that's the next chapter, is
Speaker 1: to eat two pints of Ben and Jerry's ice cream.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel right now.
Speaker 4: You know what, goot go, I con vision that. I
Speaker 4: hope you do that, you know, live your best life,
Speaker 4: and you know I'll help you eat those two points
Speaker 4: of ice and you better fucking enjoy man, like enjoy it.
Speaker 4: Fucking enjoy it like enjoy man, You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: So you're a great guy, Darren, You're great. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I forgot your name, but and I don't even You're
Speaker 1: just right now. You're a chill, fucking guy, Darren.
Speaker 4: Hey, So hope hopefully I can call you again. You know,
Speaker 4: I hope to talk to you again. And you know
Speaker 4: I love listening to your podcast. I listened to I
Speaker 4: listened to you in Spotify YouTube, like I said, and
Speaker 4: you know, hopefully, hopefully in the future again another call
Speaker 4: with you, and you know I'll be fantastic talking to you.
Speaker 1: Again, Darren, Keep living your best life. Man, all right,
Speaker 1: You're you're something special.
Speaker 4: YouTube therapy, get go.
Speaker 1: I love you, man, love it too, Darren. Bye bye.
Speaker 1: But Darren's a bad influence. He's a He's a super
Speaker 1: cool guy. Though he's a bad influence. There's no way
Speaker 1: I should eat two fucking pints of Ben and Jerry's
Speaker 1: ice cream. But he's a good guy. I really did
Speaker 1: feel that way talking to him. He really seemed like
Speaker 1: it just a fucking Sometimes you just meet a person
Speaker 1: or you chat with them and they're and You're just like,
Speaker 1: what a fucking real ass motherfucker. He just felt that way.
Speaker 1: He just felt like a no bullshit, no fake shit guy.
Speaker 1: His hero is Ozzy Osbourne. Doesn't make any sense. I've
Speaker 1: never heard a person say anything close to that, and
Speaker 1: it just that just makes me like him more. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Darren. Oh my god, Hi, Hi, what's your name?
Speaker 7: Andrea?
Speaker 1: Andrea? What's up Andrea? How is life going?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 7: It's going good. Yeah. I just came back from a
Speaker 7: target with my mom.
Speaker 1: Okay, how old are you? Andrea four? How was going
Speaker 1: to target with your mom?
Speaker 7: It was good. Yeah, I'm big into Quarterzip, so I
Speaker 7: got a new Quarterzip. I was like, nothing to say
Speaker 7: because I didn't expect that you can get on.
Speaker 1: Going to target with your mom is a psychedelic experience.
Speaker 1: A lot of the things that when I was a
Speaker 1: kid bored me. I've come to realize are very very
Speaker 1: psychedelic experiences, like sitting at the sitting at the dinner
Speaker 1: table with your mom. It's psychedelic. You're on a planet.
Speaker 1: You're in the illusion of whatever I'm having. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you can have a sober psychedelic experience being a
Speaker 1: target with your mom. You can look around and go,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is all this? What am I? What
Speaker 1: is this camera that's always on in my head? That's
Speaker 1: you know, And your mom's looking at you and she's saying,
Speaker 1: though this might be cheaper than this thing, and you're
Speaker 1: you just have no idea, You're like, who even are you?
Speaker 1: Have you ever wondered like, is my mom real?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 7: I mean I was. She was. We were at five
Speaker 7: guys before I came home, and she was just talking
Speaker 7: to me and I just like was listening, and I
Speaker 7: just like was looking in her eyes, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 7: Like she's a lot older than she was when I
Speaker 7: was like twelve, and she like physically looks like older,
Speaker 7: not bad, but like she just obviously looks older than
Speaker 7: from when I was younger like that, and that kind
Speaker 7: of like hit.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I've had that moment too, because I've
Speaker 1: had that moment too, because I've you know, I don't
Speaker 1: live in the same city as my parents, but I
Speaker 1: living near them, but every time I go back to
Speaker 1: see them, they look older. Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. Not to change the subject, but when you
Speaker 7: were doing the when you were doing the get mail thing,
Speaker 7: which is like my my favorite thing. I sent you
Speaker 7: an email back in like January. But aside from like
Speaker 7: everything in the body of it, my my ps was,
Speaker 7: what is your favorite Celsius flavor?
Speaker 1: Oh? Did I answer?
Speaker 7: No, you didn't. It was very heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: Listen, what is my favorite Celsius flavor depends on what
Speaker 1: kind of mood I'm in. Let me tell you a
Speaker 1: brief Let me tell you a brief story. It's it's
Speaker 1: such a brief story. It's like a one sentence story.
Speaker 1: It's not even a story. I was. I was got.
Speaker 1: I was like really depressed for like a few days
Speaker 1: in a row, and I just couldn't I couldn't be here.
Speaker 1: I couldn't like be present in the universe. I was
Speaker 1: too locked into my brain and thoughts in a bad way.
Speaker 1: And I went to the grocery store. And I went
Speaker 1: to the grocery store. I go to has a Celsius fridge.
Speaker 1: It's a its own fridge dedicated to Celsius. And I
Speaker 1: opened it and I saw that they had a Penia
Speaker 1: colt It's called pli a vibe. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: Penia Colada flavor. And I looked at it and I went, ooh,
Speaker 1: Plia vibe. I said that out loud, and that was
Speaker 1: that was the first time I felt connected to reality.
Speaker 1: And I think three days is just was like, was
Speaker 1: like just the the excitement of a Pina Colada, Celsius.
Speaker 1: And then after that, I was like, oh, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that was good. That was a great moment for me
Speaker 1: because I was like, all right, I can still maintain
Speaker 1: interface with the universe. And I did get it. I
Speaker 1: did drink it. Yeah, that ship. That shit cures depression.
Speaker 1: By the way, Celsius, I don't know what it does
Speaker 1: in the long term to your actual health, but it'll
Speaker 1: make you feel like God if you drink a couple
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 7: I I always have a fridge stock to Celsius. That
Speaker 7: is that I'm I almost tell like every flavor of it.
Speaker 7: So that's why I felt qualified enough to ask the questions.
Speaker 1: I just felt in that moment. I was like, ooh,
Speaker 1: play a vibe and I was like, oh, there, I am,
Speaker 1: I'm back here.
Speaker 7: I'm no, I'm not a big fan of Pina Colada,
Speaker 7: so I can't I can't really vibe with you there.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah, motherfucker, Okay, what's yours?
Speaker 7: Well, the one nutrition store near me has all the
Speaker 7: Celsius flavors there, and they have like a cherry coke flavor,
Speaker 7: and I feel like a lot of places can't mess
Speaker 7: up coke flavor. That one's pretty good. Other than that,
Speaker 7: other than that, they haven't the Arctic vibe. Pretty basic flavor,
Speaker 7: but it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I like the Arctic Vibe. I like that. By the way,
Speaker 1: this is not a sponsored Celsius thing. I just I
Speaker 1: genuinely love Celsi. I was looking at yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: I also I love the cherry coke one, the coke one.
Speaker 1: If I'm in like a no nonsense, no bullshit, I
Speaker 1: am here to get some shit done mode. I just
Speaker 1: get orange, no vibe, no prickly cactus, Sherbert Cola, whatever,
Speaker 1: bullshit orange, you know, regular orange. I had a grape
Speaker 1: one the other day. It sent me crazy. I drank
Speaker 1: a Grape Celsius the other night. No, was it, dude,
Speaker 1: Maybe this was yesterday? I think, yeah, yesterday, I drank
Speaker 1: a Greape Celsius. And then I started I was taking
Speaker 1: a shit, and I started singing on the toilet, and
Speaker 1: I was sending videos of myself on the toilet singing
Speaker 1: to my my group chat of friends and I must
Speaker 1: have sent like six videos of me just on the
Speaker 1: toilet being like I love making diarrhea with my ass
Speaker 1: and I want to make a movie about diarrhea from
Speaker 1: my ass, jud Appa, how will produce my diarrhea movie?
Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm just singing and I'm I'm taking
Speaker 1: a shit. I made like six of those videos. It
Speaker 1: was an awesome day.
Speaker 7: Well yeah, what an absolute honor to receive a video
Speaker 7: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so now it just makes you feel like like
Speaker 1: like God, you know, you can do anything absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead and go ahead.
Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, just another thing I mentioned
Speaker 7: in the email was my my boyfriend actually told me
Speaker 7: about your podcast, uh last year, and I've just been
Speaker 7: listening to it like almost every day.
Speaker 1: Oh, yas man.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's good, good one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of people have told me that they fall
Speaker 1: asleep to the podcast.
Speaker 7: Oh no, no, I'm active.
Speaker 2: I am very.
Speaker 1: Active and cool, cool, cool. I've become I've recently become
Speaker 1: a fall asleep to the TV guy. That's what's going
Speaker 1: on in my life. It's actually a great development.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: I look forward every night. I put on four hours
Speaker 1: of Game Boy Advance Game Trivia and fucking knocks me
Speaker 1: right out.
Speaker 7: It's the best we've been doing in pop culture. Jeopardy
Speaker 7: with Colin Jost.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know that guy, but he's probably what do
Speaker 1: you think he's like in real life?
Speaker 7: Probably sits on the toilet after a great Celsius just
Speaker 7: sings song.
Speaker 1: I don't know. He seems like a he seems like
Speaker 1: a he seems like a pretty together guy. He seems
Speaker 1: like like you go to his house and he has
Speaker 1: like a bowl of fruit on a on a desk,
Speaker 1: and like he goes, he goes, oh, that's a great idea,
Speaker 1: and then he like does it?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 1: And then he's like he just seems like a normal guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know him, but he seems
Speaker 1: like he has like knives in his house and he
Speaker 1: uses him to cut like lettuce.
Speaker 7: Are you just going based off of just his name?
Speaker 7: Like you don't know who this guy is at all.
Speaker 1: I know who Colin just is.
Speaker 7: Oh, oh yeah, he's like on I just know him
Speaker 7: on there, but I know he's like snl or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where do we Where do you think we go
Speaker 1: when we die?
Speaker 7: Where do we go when we die? I'm not like
Speaker 7: super religious or anything. I think that.
Speaker 2: We go to.
Speaker 7: The sky and we just are in another universe and
Speaker 7: we just move can eat whatever and do whatever. You
Speaker 7: were just talking to the one guy before, and you,
Speaker 7: like you said something about like what's one thing that
Speaker 7: you wish you could be doing or whatever right now?
Speaker 7: And you said about eating the ice cream. But then
Speaker 7: I was thinking sometimes the same lines as that, almost
Speaker 7: but like being able to eat but there's like no
Speaker 7: calories involved.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be awesome. Oh my god, yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no calie. It just makes it as if I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can do that. It's called binging and purging,
Speaker 1: but it's not recommended.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, you're pro will not be happy afterwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, doctors do not recommend, but I mean it is
Speaker 1: physically possible.
Speaker 7: What's your name again, Andrea?
Speaker 1: Andrea, Andrew. We've been talking for about eleven minutes right now,
Speaker 1: and I was about to end our conversation, but I
Speaker 1: just want to check in with you. Do you feel
Speaker 1: like you got everything that you desired from this conversation
Speaker 1: and is there anything I can do to make this
Speaker 1: conversation a better experience for you before we do leave?
Speaker 7: What was I going to talk to you a little
Speaker 7: bit more. But you know, I'm just happy that I
Speaker 7: was able to get on in the first place.
Speaker 1: We can talk, is there what do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 7: No, like just just shooting the ship. It was just
Speaker 7: cool that they about to even talk to you.
Speaker 1: Let me think, let me think of one more thing
Speaker 1: we can talk about before we go.
Speaker 7: Oh, well, I guess if you I guess if you
Speaker 7: like read my email. Then in the next in the
Speaker 7: next gek mail.
Speaker 1: Oh did you send another email?
Speaker 7: No, I didn't send another one. It's just back in January.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, did I ever read your email?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 7: You never did.
Speaker 1: Oh what was in the email?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 7: I talked about like my school? No, no, so long ago. Yeah,
Speaker 7: I talked about school. But uh, if you want to go,
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't want to keep you on.
Speaker 1: You can talk about school. We got we're chilling.
Speaker 7: Sure, Yeah, okay, I mean yeah, I mean I just
Speaker 7: ended my semester.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 7: Basically the whole thing was that like I was just
Speaker 7: like I got accepted into like this national uh this
Speaker 7: National Society for Radiology, And I just said in the
Speaker 7: email that I don't know, I just didn't feel like
Speaker 7: I was the right person for the pick.
Speaker 1: M hm, why not?
Speaker 7: I don't know, because, uh, there's a lot of people
Speaker 7: in my program. Well, my program's like very strict, so
Speaker 7: like they only pick twenty people out of like hundreds
Speaker 7: of applicants, and I was one of the people to
Speaker 7: get picked for that, and like that's cool at all.
Speaker 7: It's like based off of like your grades and like
Speaker 7: how you interview with like all the teachers and stuff,
Speaker 7: and there's like six teachers that you interview with, and
Speaker 7: you had to do like this professional points thing at
Speaker 7: the end of the schooling. It's like another class and
Speaker 7: it's like a grade. Then, so like one hundred points
Speaker 7: equals one hundred percent for the assignment. Fifty of the
Speaker 7: points comes from applying to this national society, and then
Speaker 7: if you get accepted, that's another fifty points, so then
Speaker 7: you get a hundred right there. And I kind of
Speaker 7: like applied to it the day before it was due
Speaker 7: and you had to like meet a work count for
Speaker 7: the essay, and I got below the work count. But
Speaker 7: then again, there's like you know a bunch of people
Speaker 7: who apply for this stuff, but like I only applied
Speaker 7: just because of the points I wasn't like expecting to
Speaker 7: get accepted. So I'm thinking, like, there's probably other people
Speaker 7: out there that probably would have actually cared, I guess
Speaker 7: in lack of better terms.
Speaker 1: So that's okay that you got a thing they don't
Speaker 1: care that much about.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess. I guess it was just like a
Speaker 7: mental thing, like I don't know, like, yeah, I get
Speaker 7: it that.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 1: Listen listen, listen, listen. It's all it's all rigged. It's
Speaker 1: all rigged. You know, you know it's all rigged. It's
Speaker 1: all rigged. Sometimes it's rigged in your favor. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: rigged against your favor, but it is all rigged. And uh,
Speaker 1: if it's rigged in your favor, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like you took away something from someone else.
Speaker 7: Maybe yeah, yeah, I feel it.
Speaker 1: So you wrote all that, and then what is your
Speaker 1: favorite Selseia's flavor?
Speaker 7: Essentially? Yeah, something like that, And then I that I
Speaker 7: just like, uh, met you for my boyfriend. Uh, he
Speaker 7: used to listen to you a lot, I guess when
Speaker 7: he was working at a foundry.
Speaker 1: What's he doing now, who's he listened to?
Speaker 7: Who's he listened to?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 7: No one really? I mean he's watching your stream as
Speaker 7: you're talking to me.
Speaker 1: Okay, he's not like, uh, he's not like listening to
Speaker 1: the Bad Friends podcast or something.
Speaker 7: No, I don't know if you listen to anybody else. No,
Speaker 7: he doesn't get to listen to anybody at his new
Speaker 7: job like he did in the old one.
Speaker 1: Oh man, can you tell me?
Speaker 7: I said, Hi, he's so highs So what's while?
Speaker 1: I like this guy?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: I like this guy. This guy's a cool guy. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you guys are dating.
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a cool guys.
Speaker 1: Chi guy.
Speaker 7: What's your name again, Andrea?
Speaker 1: Andrea? Yeah, Andrea? Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 7: Yeah, if you are trying to get into the stream, uh,
Speaker 7: call all at minimum?
Speaker 2: You want.
Speaker 1: Good luck on all of your life endeavors.
Speaker 7: Andrea, You two wiles like you're talking.
Speaker 1: But what is your name? Cowboy?
Speaker 8: My name is Lilith.
Speaker 1: Lilith, Yes, Lilith. Where are you calling from? Lilith?
Speaker 8: And I'm calling from Germany?
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, Germany. What part did you wear in Germany?
Speaker 8: I'm pretty much in the middle, like near Frankfurt. You
Speaker 8: might have heard of it. It's like the Silicon Valley
Speaker 8: of Germany.
Speaker 1: Frankfurt is the Silicon Valley of Germany.
Speaker 8: Maybe I don't really know what the Silicon Valley.
Speaker 4: Is, so.
Speaker 1: I respect that. I also use U metaphors and things
Speaker 1: that I don't know what the hell they mean, and
Speaker 1: I've gotten I've gotten a lot of mileage off of
Speaker 1: people not prodding me further on what I mean when
Speaker 1: I say certain things because I would not be able
Speaker 1: to answer them at all.
Speaker 8: It works a lot like when you're talking to someone
Speaker 8: who maybe doesn't really question what you're saying, and it works,
Speaker 8: But when someone called me out can be really embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Aren't those the best kinds of people?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 1: I fucking hate when you start like talking to somebody
Speaker 1: and you're saying things and they ask you to elaborate
Speaker 1: on them. I hate talking to those ye people. I
Speaker 1: want somebody who just will let me say a bunch
Speaker 1: of nonsense to them that may or may not make
Speaker 1: sense and just goes yeah, totally, absolutely. You know, those
Speaker 1: are the best kinds of people. It's people who they
Speaker 1: don't They don't go what do you mean by Rhode Island?
Speaker 1: Is the is the Luxembourg of America? You know? I
Speaker 1: guess they're both small. But that's I don't have the
Speaker 1: I don't have. I'm yeah, fuck those people. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put it right. I'm gonna put this right here on
Speaker 1: the Therapy Eco podcast. If you're if you're ever asked,
Speaker 1: you know, with your friend and they say something and
Speaker 1: you're like, what do you mean by that? You're a
Speaker 1: fucking asshole. Never ever ask your friends what they mean
Speaker 1: when they say things. Just just say you just say,
Speaker 1: that's a great point. You're awesome. Uh, you're the great, amazing.
Speaker 1: That's I never thought of it that way. What's your
Speaker 1: name again? Lilith? Lilith living in Frankfurt, Germany, the Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley of Germany. What's up? How's life would you want
Speaker 1: to talk about today?
Speaker 8: Life is pretty good right now actually, but something really
Speaker 8: crazy happened to me recently. Name so, I have I
Speaker 8: have one ex boyfriend and right now I actually live
Speaker 8: with my second every boyfriend in an apartment. But I
Speaker 8: have one ex boyfriend and I this crazy story happened recently,
Speaker 8: and I'm trying to think of a fake name for
Speaker 8: my ex boyfriend, Danny. Okay, all right, So we were
Speaker 8: all invited to a mutual friend's birthday party, because I
Speaker 8: come from a small town and everybody kind of know
Speaker 8: each other, or it's not even a small town, but
Speaker 8: there's this gigantic friend group of people who are similar,
Speaker 8: and so everybody's friends with everything, but everybody also gossips
Speaker 8: about each other and kind of secretly hate each other.
Speaker 8: And we were invited to this birthday party at a
Speaker 8: it's like a pub, but it's really cool, and actually
Speaker 8: one of our friend's mothers owns the pub, so that's
Speaker 8: kind of one of the places where shit goes down.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: We were at this birthday party and then my ex
Speaker 8: boyfriend also showed up and he kind of invited himself,
Speaker 8: so he was also there. And then I had like
Speaker 8: like eight beers, and I don't know, I was having fun.
Speaker 8: And at some point everybody went outside to smoke cigarettes
Speaker 8: and I was sitting inside rolling a cigarette actually at
Speaker 8: the table, and then he was sitting there and he
Speaker 8: was wearing a T shirt with a with a with
Speaker 8: like the one of the main characters from my favorite
Speaker 8: anime on it and my favorite anime is me on Genesis,
Speaker 8: Evan Gallion, Evan Jelian. I don't know how you pronounced it.
Speaker 8: Do you know it?
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with it.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay.
Speaker 8: So he had he had ray on his T shirt
Speaker 8: like the blue haired girl who's who's not really real,
Speaker 8: and then like a like a funny I don't know,
Speaker 8: like a funny phrase on the T shirt as well,
Speaker 8: and I was it was really awkward because it was
Speaker 8: just the two of us, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 8: nice shirt, and he was he was being stupid and
Speaker 8: I don't know, talking talking to me, but I didn't
Speaker 8: really understand. And then he kept saying, oh, you know,
Speaker 8: I got a tattoo of the anime ha ha, And
Speaker 8: I thought that he was making a joke because I
Speaker 8: actually do have a tattoo of the face of one
Speaker 8: of the characters whose name is Lilith, and so is
Speaker 8: my name, Like that's my name, so naturally I got
Speaker 8: her face tattooed on my right arm, on my right
Speaker 8: under arm. And then I went outside to smoke a cigarette,
Speaker 8: and then it said, oh, Danny wanted to show me
Speaker 8: a tattoo, and then someone else said, oh my god, Lilith,
Speaker 8: Danny got the exact same tattoo as you. And then
Speaker 8: I was like, okay, hold my cigarette and I went
Speaker 8: inside and then I was like, Danny, show me your
Speaker 8: fucking tattoo. And then he showed me his right under
Speaker 8: arm and he has the same tattoo, the exact same
Speaker 8: tattoo as me, which also means my name on his arm.
Speaker 1: Well, did you guys just get the same tattoo kind
Speaker 1: of coincidentally?
Speaker 8: No, I've had this tattoo for many, many years, and
Speaker 8: he knew I had it for years. It was my
Speaker 8: second tattoo, I think, And yeah, I think. I Also
Speaker 8: I made him watch the anime because I was always
Speaker 8: talking about it and he didn't really know it before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did did he like when? When when he showed
Speaker 1: it to did he say that he got it because
Speaker 1: of you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 8: Actually he said that he was gonna get some other
Speaker 8: stuff tattooed on his right under arm. And I talked
Speaker 8: to some of his friends about it, and I even
Speaker 8: texted his mom because I was really creeped out, and
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't want this guy to crash out.
Speaker 8: I want him to be well. And so this did
Speaker 8: seem like what a well person would do to me,
Speaker 8: and so and so I texted his mom and he
Speaker 8: and now she texted me back and said and he
Speaker 8: didn't do it too to piss me off, and that
Speaker 8: he's been wanting that tattoo for a long time and
Speaker 8: stuff like that. And I don't know what I expected,
Speaker 8: because she's nicest person in the whole world, and she
Speaker 8: could never I don't know, have a I don't know,
Speaker 8: I don't know it was. It was not what I expected,
Speaker 8: but I don't know what I expected at the same time.
Speaker 8: But yeah, but everybody finds it really weird. I've talked
Speaker 8: to a lot of people about this, and they all
Speaker 8: signed it really disturbing. But for some reason, no one
Speaker 8: said anything about it to him because he also told
Speaker 8: everybody that he was going to get that tattoo. But
Speaker 8: it is well known around my town that that is
Speaker 8: my tattoo, because I can't shut up about the tattoos
Speaker 8: I have, like when I become an animal, when I'm
Speaker 8: a little drunk, and so everybody knows that that is
Speaker 8: the tattoo that I also have.
Speaker 1: When you become an animal, yeah, not like you like.
Speaker 8: In the head, you know, how how.
Speaker 1: Have you become? What happens to you when you become
Speaker 1: an animal?
Speaker 8: When I have when I when I drink wine, Yeah,
Speaker 8: when when I drink wine, I go a little crazy,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 6: Interesting, and then I then I start Then I start
Speaker 6: going up to guys with guitars and tell them to
Speaker 6: play a song.
Speaker 8: And then I sing, but I can't really sing, or
Speaker 8: I start crying and sit somewhere, and or start showing
Speaker 8: people my tattoos and explaining the whole story of the tattoo.
Speaker 8: I guess that's not that crazy.
Speaker 1: But who are you, Lilis? What's what are you doing
Speaker 1: in the middle of Germany?
Speaker 8: I just live here. I just live normal life like
Speaker 8: everybody else.
Speaker 1: Do you What do you dream of.
Speaker 8: I dream of I dream of a quiet world where
Speaker 8: I don't know where everybody is just not afraid to
Speaker 8: be himself. That's so boring, that's so who doesn't dream
Speaker 8: of that?
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who don't dream of that.
Speaker 1: Hitler didn't dream of Uh yeah, I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the president of McDonald's dreams of that.
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Jordan dreams of that. I think
Speaker 1: he's busy doing like brand deals and running companies and
Speaker 1: stuffy whoever who's in charge of Apple Computers. That guy,
Speaker 1: he doesn't dream of that. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of
Speaker 1: people who don't dream of that. They're thinking about other stuff.
Speaker 8: Dream of wild horses.
Speaker 1: Yes, have you seen a lot of wild horses lately?
Speaker 8: M if I dream? No, I've never seen a wild horse,
Speaker 8: but I would like to very much.
Speaker 1: Do they have those in They have horses in Germany.
Speaker 8: Right, not wild horses. They have lots of horses on
Speaker 8: like enclosures, but not wild horses.
Speaker 1: Sadly, it's a whole ass country. They don't have any
Speaker 1: horses like wild horses. It's not like one.
Speaker 8: No, we don't even have natural lawns. I don't even
Speaker 8: know the English word force, like.
Speaker 5: Just wild grass waste force.
Speaker 8: No, we have forests. We have lots of forests. Most
Speaker 8: of them are artificial though. Visa is the German word
Speaker 8: for just like wild grown lawn, grasp with flowers and FeAs.
Speaker 8: We barely have that. We only have like fields.
Speaker 1: It's really sad, lilis, Yes, where do we go when
Speaker 1: we die?
Speaker 8: Where do we go when we die? Fuck around and
Speaker 8: find out? I don't know what kind of question is that?
Speaker 1: What kind of question is it?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: You know, I thought we established at the beginning of
Speaker 1: this conversation that it's not good to ask people what
Speaker 1: they mean by things.
Speaker 8: Oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: You're right, I forget, I apologize, don't worry about it, loves.
Speaker 8: Yes.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people as the computer before we go?
Speaker 8: M instead of instead of getting getting something tattooed to
Speaker 8: creep or to piss someone off, you should do something else,
Speaker 8: like throw eggs at their house or something like that.
Speaker 8: So don't do that. And then secondly, mhm, lift free
Speaker 8: lifts so freely that you're existence is an act of
Speaker 8: rebellion or whatever. That one guy.
Speaker 1: Said, thank you for calling Lilith, thank you for answering.
Speaker 1: I don't watch anime. That's all nerd shit. No, I've
Speaker 1: did I watch an anime recently? What did I watch recently?
Speaker 1: I watched Sokka Moto Days. I liked that one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna watch I'm gonna start watching Scavenger Rain. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that counts as anime though I like animation. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. This is anime I watched when I
Speaker 1: was in middle school. It was called Sergeant Frog. The
Speaker 1: main character. If you look this up, it's called Sergeant
Speaker 1: Frog the main character. Actually looks like me. I haven't
Speaker 1: watched that in a while, but I like it a lot,
Speaker 1: so I might go back and watch it. That was
Speaker 1: the Therapy Gecko podcast. I'm Lyle and this This is
Speaker 1: the outro to the Therapy Gecko podcast. That was nice.
Speaker 1: That was a very chit chatty podcast. I guess all
Speaker 1: of them are chit chats.
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess all podcasts are kind of chit chats, except
Speaker 1: except like the Batman ones, where they like do like
Speaker 1: a dramatization of Batman. Those aren't chit chats. Those are like,
Speaker 1: tell a story about Batman. Do I have anything else
Speaker 1: to say? I feel like I do. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: I say that every time, though, What more do I
Speaker 1: have to say? The more I think, the more I
Speaker 1: the older I get and the more I experience and
Speaker 1: the more I learn, the more I I actually I think.
Speaker 1: The older I get, the more futile it feels to
Speaker 1: feel like I know any thing. But that's actually nice,
Speaker 1: I think, and knowing everything is bad. Knowing everything is bad,
Speaker 1: and not knowing things is okay. It's good. It's actively
Speaker 1: beneficial to life to not know things. So if your
Speaker 1: mom is still around, go look at her. If you
Speaker 1: have anyone else in your house right now, go look
Speaker 1: at them. If you're alone, look in a mirror and go, wow,
Speaker 1: look at that. This is insane psychedelic. All right, thank
Speaker 1: you all. I'll be back soon. Go do something else
Speaker 1: with your life. Go walk around. Maybe you're walking around
Speaker 1: while you're listening to this already. I'm very sleepy. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go, h am, I gonna go eat the pints
Speaker 1: of ice cream. I really want to fuck. I really
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to do anything besides do that.
Speaker 1: I might. I'll let you know if I end up
Speaker 1: doing it, or actually I probably won't. All right, thank you.
Speaker 5: Ka.
Speaker 1: It goes on the line, taking your phone calls every night.
Speaker 1: The beacon goes to his hide. You're just teaching you
Speaker 1: a loud your line.
Speaker 6: Money's not really an expert.