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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one fifty

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Speaker 1: three Tay in the show, Dan and I are discussing

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Speaker 1: our planned summer deer projects in detail. We're examining what

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Speaker 1: we need to get done, why we're prioritizing these projects,

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Speaker 1: and how we're going to complete these tasks because we

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Speaker 1: prepare for the upcoming deer hunting season. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you by Sitka Gear.

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Speaker 1: And Today on the show, we're going to be covering

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Speaker 1: a wide variety of topics related to the projects and

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Speaker 1: tasks that we are taking on this summer in preparation

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Speaker 1: for upcoming deer hunting season. And joining me today is

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Speaker 1: a very special guest. He's a man of many words

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Speaker 1: but few fingers. He's a man who has had he

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Speaker 1: has had two kids, and he has also went number

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Speaker 1: two while in a tree stand. My co host, the

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Speaker 1: One the Only, Dan Johnson. Wow, you really built me

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Speaker 1: up for failure. You make me sound like I'm some

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Speaker 1: something that's just gonna blows people. You know, what he's

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Speaker 1: going to tell you today is gonna, you know, change

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Speaker 1: the way you think. But people are gonna leave this

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Speaker 1: podcast and they're gonna say, holy sh it, I could

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Speaker 1: do that job. Yep. Do you like that one? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That was a good one. He has two kids, but

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Speaker 1: goes number two in a tree stand. I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a T shirt right there, That is a T shirt.

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Speaker 1: How you've been, man, I'm good. How are you? I'm

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Speaker 1: doing well. I'm excited, excited to have a podcast just

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Speaker 1: you and me to catch up a little bit, to

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Speaker 1: talk about some of the stuff that's coming up. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think there's lots and lots going on or will

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Speaker 1: be soon in our in our deer hunting worlds. So

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be good, right, kind of like a little mandate.

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Speaker 1: This is our mandate. We need a mandate. Yep, we do.

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Speaker 1: We need a mandate. I'm glad this is happening. So

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Speaker 1: what's new with you? Like, I'm trying so hard. I'm

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Speaker 1: trying so hard not to say something about my kids

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Speaker 1: don't know, just a funny story. So for and it's

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Speaker 1: the first thing that came into my mind last night.

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Speaker 1: I'm typically my son's real active in the bathtub, right,

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Speaker 1: So I'm sitting there giving my kids a bath, and

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Speaker 1: weird and daddy poop And for or anybody who's had

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Speaker 1: And every time he poopy would he would make this

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Speaker 1: to make when you poop, but not perfect right, but

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Speaker 1: not the function. So I held him there for like

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Speaker 1: And then he didn't go in the bathtub. Well he

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Speaker 1: So that's just like a short portion of how my

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Speaker 1: day actually goes. Man, I'll tell you what the life

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Speaker 1: and times of Dan Johnson. It's a while the world

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Speaker 1: over there in Iowa. Yeah, however, man, I got I

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Speaker 1: to start really start shooting this summer. Yeah, I'm doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing. I've been out shooting a lot, and

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Speaker 1: So I brought my bow with me out there, um

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Speaker 1: And I've been out turkey hunting, but I actually haven't

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Speaker 1: But they've been a little bit finicky over here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so what what buddy did you go hunting with other? Josh? Oh,

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Speaker 1: you mean further, yes, further, good memory. I know I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna run that home until he probably gets piste at me.

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Speaker 1: So he's such a nice guy that you almost feel

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Speaker 1: you know, you know that nickname was a joke, but

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Speaker 1: feel bad. Okay, then you know what some exciting news

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Speaker 1: about Josh. Can't tell you this, this is this is public,

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Speaker 1: so I think I can. I think it's fine that

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Speaker 1: I say this. Um. So, Josh has been helping out

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Speaker 1: recently accepted a position with the Quality Dear Management Association.

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Speaker 1: He is now, Yeah, he's a regional I might get

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Speaker 1: the title wrong, sorry, Josh. I think he's a regional

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a great position and he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do an awesome job. So if you're listening, now,

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Speaker 1: here's my plug. If you're listening now, and you're not

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Speaker 1: the Quality Dear Management Association, UM, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: going to the KUTI MAY National Convention, you should definitely go.

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Speaker 1: Be in the audience, ask me a stumper of a

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Speaker 1: I tell you, so, you got me a room and

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Speaker 1: right as soon we're gonna share a bunk but bunk

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Speaker 1: But open with a joke open with a joke that's

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Speaker 1: that's called an attention get her. If you didn't know that,

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Speaker 1: I literally was just watching a show last night. Um.

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Speaker 1: You ever heard of the show Crashing. It's on HBO. UM.

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Speaker 1: It's really funny. Basically, it's the story of this guy

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Speaker 1: So he does what you just said I should do.

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Speaker 1: He goes out there and he somehow starts telling a

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Speaker 1: And he starts talking to get an elderly woman, she's

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Speaker 1: given me an hour. Oh wow, that's a big time frame,

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Speaker 1: my man. Yeah, so we'll see how that goes. Basically,

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Speaker 1: So that's all right whatever, I mean, it wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: back at the um black Hawk County newspaper. They'll know

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch about me. There's some dirt in there

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Speaker 1: somewhere around two thousand two and three. Yeah, don't give

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Speaker 1: I I need to talk about the the access. You

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Speaker 1: know about access. This property is enclosed by cricks like

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00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 1: a creek system, and by three other properties. Right for Mike,

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00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for my context. Can you tell me is

429
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: this uh? Is this your main southern iwest? Okay, this

430
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 1: is my main farm. So I have property owners to

431
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 1: the south, to the west, um, to the northwest, and

432
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: then a creek kind of surrounds the whole thing, uh

433
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: in a way, or the west northwest and cuts kind

434
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 1: of through the center, uh like the north part of it.

435
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: The creek that I fell into. Uh right, yeah, well

436
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: that creek, yeah, just down quite a ways the place

437
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: that you fell in with a different property altogether, but um,

438
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: but in that general area right. So so access for

439
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: the most part is through the front of the farm

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00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: from the east, and you have to go through egg

441
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: to get to the timber. Right. So my theory is

442
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: instantly by me driving in. You know, a vehicle may

443
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: not necessarily quote unquote spook the deer, but it's gonna

444
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: get them out of the fields early in the morning

445
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: when you're on the meaning that they're not naturally moving

446
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: back to their bedding areas, right, They've been forced a

447
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: little bit definitely. So yeah, that access is great for

448
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: an evening hunt for them coming to the food source,

449
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: but for a morning hunt, I am ruining absolutely almost

450
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: the entire farm, I feel, because they're they're being bumped

451
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: into the timber. And then yeah, they may get back

452
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: to a natural pattern, but they're ahead of me. When

453
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 1: you walk in there, you're pushing them in further exactly,

454
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: And I try to hug or hug the borders of

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00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: this property. Now I've talked to landowners, uh to try

456
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: to be able to access from the complete opposite direction

457
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: so I can get into some of my tree stands

458
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: locations and get that natural movement from the egg fields

459
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: back into the bedding, into the pinch points. Now what

460
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 1: what happens is, uh, they told me no, They said, yeah,

461
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: we'd rather not because we hunt as well, and we

462
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: just would rather not have you been walking through our properties. Okay,

463
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: fair enough right here, I'm gonna get that. So now

464
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: kind of getting to what I need to do this summer,

465
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 1: as I have too other landowners that I need to

466
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 1: talk with about walking. It's gonna be one hell of

467
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 1: a long walk. But I feel that I'm just I'm

468
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: ruining every everything when it um when it comes to

469
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: entering this property. Right. So, I'm gonna be talking to

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00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: two landowners hopefully within the next three or four weeks,

471
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be, you know, talk discussing with them like, hey, man,

472
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: can I at least just park on your park, on

473
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: your field drive and walk your fence line into the

474
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: property that I hunt? And I feel that that would

475
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: that would help me a little bit. It's through cattle pasture.

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00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: The other yeah. The other thing, and this is this

477
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: is where it's going to get difficult, is crick access

478
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: to some of these backstand locations. And it would be

479
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: we're talking like walking a mile but in a creek.

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00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 1: Now that's great if the crick's low. But if the crick,

481
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: you know, if there's big rain, that krip fills up

482
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: and it could go above waist, could go above chest

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00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: at times. I've seen it over you know, yeah, over

484
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: the head at times. So you know, it would have

485
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: to be the perfect condition to walk back all the

486
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: way from the road back in there um and and

487
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: use that crick, which I feel would be great on

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00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: certain wind directions. However, this is kind of where the

489
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: dilemma is. I need I need a certain wind which

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00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: would benefit me accessing the accessing from where I normally do. Right,

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00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: so when I get into my stand, then it's um,

492
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 1: then it's it's good. But if I use the creek

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00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: to access the stand on the wind that I need, um,

494
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: my scent will be blowing into a betting area. So

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00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind of at a really I need to be

496
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: air dropped into this property. But basically is what I'm

497
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: getting in now. Can you hunt that as a morning

498
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: set though, and be going through the creek with a

499
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: bad wind before they're to their beds so that you

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00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: get to you go through the area with a bad wind.

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00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: But it's not bad because they're not there yet. And

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: then by the time you get to the tree stand,

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00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: you've got the good wind and you're past the area

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00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: where the wind would mess you up by the time

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00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: they get there. Uh yeah, kind of. However, you know

506
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 1: these ruts, these ruts, you know, I spent most of

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00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: my time in the timber the last week of October,

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00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: the first two weeks of November, just like you do, right,

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00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: and the those betting areas it seems like they're during

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00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: those rut. During the rut, there's always deer in that

511
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: betting area, whether it's dough, whether it's a mature buck,

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00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: or whether it's just h you know, a smaller immature buck.

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00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Cruising at night, I'm in a spot where there's deer

514
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: all there. You know, they're all the time, and that's

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00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: that's what my trail camera so, you know, I put

516
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: that info in deer lab and then I'm looking at

517
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: him like there is literally a deer in this area

518
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: from October to November, like every hour of every day. Awesome. Yeah,

519
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: it's a great place, but glow without really easy. Yeah,

520
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: I guess it all comes down to, like it's a

521
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: numbers game, right, what's the chance of what's the risk,

522
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: what's the reward? And when it balances one way or

523
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: the other, than you gotta go for it right right,

524
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: And I think I'm to the point now where Um,

525
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: I got some stands that are pretty safe for access.

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00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: I can get in there, like you know, by entering

527
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: my normal way. But once the rut hits and I

528
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: want to catch natural movement, um, I'm gonna have to

529
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: have somebody drop me off on you know, on the

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00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: road and walk some of these creeks in because I

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00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: don't want to park my truck on the road, right, Um,

532
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: I can ask. I'm gonna try to ask permission from

533
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: a couple, you know, farmers. Hey, can I just park

534
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: in your drive? I don't want to hunt your property.

535
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I just want to park in your drive. If not,

536
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to have somebody drop me off and walk,

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, roughly a mile through a creek to get

538
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: back to you know, because the property that I hunt,

539
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: you've seen it on a map, it's pretty big. Yeah.

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00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people say they have

541
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: to walk a mile, but like when you really have

542
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: to walk a mile, especially cric man, that is tough.

543
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you're trying to be slow and you're trying

544
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: to be quiet, and you got a backpack and maybe

545
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: a tree stand and a bow, and that's that is

546
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: no easy feats. So I uh, I don't envy you.

547
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: I but it's good. I mean, it's that's great access.

548
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: And we talked about all the time. It's like being

549
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: willing to do those tough things or do a bunch

550
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: of little things that take a little bit longer than usual. Yeah,

551
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: that's what makes the difference. So my goal is, you know,

552
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: obviously I got my mineral already out. In the next

553
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I'm gonna be setting my cameras out

554
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: while I'm there. I'm gonna be putting a couple of

555
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: tree stands in these like I'm gonna have them set

556
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: already for some of these locations where I might only

557
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: hunt one morning or one afternoon the entire season. Yeah.

558
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: And what I want to I want to be low

559
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: pro as possible. Yeah. So, speaking of trail cameras, what

560
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: are you thinking? Um post your advice from Joe Um

561
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: Joe el Singer on our podcast couple weeks ago when

562
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: he when he encouraged you not to be checking your

563
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: cameras throughout the season like you do are you going

564
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: to take you gonna try that or you're gonna do

565
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,959
Speaker 1: your usual Nope, I'm some of these. I'm gonna be

566
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: like getting thirty two gig cards, sixty four gig cards,

567
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: putting them in and just letting them ride out the

568
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: entire season and go back there because like he mentioned,

569
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: and like kind of like I've seen what what what

570
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: really kind of popped my interest and kind of you know,

571
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: pulled that I had that aha moment is when I

572
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: tagged out so early this upcoming year and then I

573
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: let my trail cameras run the entire rest of the

574
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: archery season until shotgun season. That's when I went and

575
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: took him down. And what do you know, I had

576
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: more dear on my trail cameras just which I feel

577
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: is because it wasn't going and checking them on a

578
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: regular basis throughout the run. And I have enough information

579
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: and I feel that I have enough uh intel from

580
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: you know, like from using deer lab and whatnot to say, Okay,

581
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: I need to be in this stay end roughly at

582
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: this time to catch deer movement on you know, these

583
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: winds or these conditions from last year in the previous

584
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: year's information. So did you end up getting so it

585
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: sounds like you did um but others like some specific

586
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: annual patterns that you've now identified that you saw happen

587
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: last year that you're going to try to keen on

588
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: this year. Mark Please don't say I told you so,

589
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: but I am gonna have to do some all day

590
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Sits enough enough, bs. I need to do it because

591
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: I have to stay in locations where I have the

592
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: most so happy I know, I know the most big

593
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: buck activity. And you know how you have has it

594
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: broken down by uh like six am to ten am

595
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: and then ten am to two pm, and then from

596
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: two to six and from six to tanner what you

597
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: know that circle? A majority of my big bucks are

598
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: traveling and where these two particular standing locations are at

599
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: are tray traveling from ten am to two pm. It

600
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: sucks to know that, Like I don't know they're coming.

601
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: What what they're doing is they're they're two pretty predominant

602
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: pinch points too, or it's a pinch point slash travel

603
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: corridor basically the same thing. And they're coming off I

604
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They're coming off the egg fields.

605
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: They're checking a couple betting areas, then they're hitting these

606
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: pinch points mid day to transition to another other betting

607
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: areas and other egg fields on a different part of

608
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: the farm. That makes I mean that that sounds exactly

609
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: what you would expect for that running time frame. What

610
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: what specific time frame were these really happening the most, um,

611
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 1: I think it was. You know, I had activity through

612
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: those from mid October, but nothing daylie until um in

613
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: that time frame ten am to two pm from October

614
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: all the way until November six seven, you know when

615
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I when I ended up taking my trail cams down. Cool,

616
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: that's good to know. I mean that that right there

617
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: is proof positive of that rut midday movement. It's happens.

618
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: So my debacle on one of these is And I'd

619
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: love to hear what you have to say about this,

620
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: because I've heard I've heard some guys talk about, hey man,

621
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: you either go in extremely early, right so everything's calmed

622
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: down because there's literally no movement on some of these

623
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: trail cameras from midnight too, I don't know, six am sometimes,

624
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: so there there's no deer in the area early on

625
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: in the morning, and so if I get in there

626
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: and I get in real early, or do I hang

627
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: back and not go in until like nine o'clock in

628
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: the morning or eight or nine. I think my thought

629
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: would be to get even though you're probably not gonna

630
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: have early morning movement like you might have allousy the

631
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: first few hours of the day, I'd still want to

632
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: get in there really early, so I'm not spooking anything. Um,

633
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: I'd worry if you're going in at nine o'clock, maybe

634
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: that is when the first one comes cruising through or whatever.

635
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: UM I mean in this kind of scenario I have.

636
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I have had a scenario like where it made sense

637
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: not to go in early, like a few I can't

638
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: remember if we ever talked about this, but that year

639
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: I hunted in Iowa that you also killed a buck.

640
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: It was like two thousand and twelve, I think maybe.

641
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: And um the spot I wanted to hunt. The only

642
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: way I could get to it you had to cross

643
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: an open crop field. There's no way to get through

644
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: without crossing that crop field. UM. So I was worried

645
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: though if I went in there. You know, I wanted

646
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: to do an all day sait. But I thought, if

647
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: I go in there before dark, I'm gonna spook here

648
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: off that field. So instead of doing that, I waited

649
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: until daylight until like glass the field and watched and

650
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: made sure there was nothing on the field, and then

651
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: I snuck in and got to my stand, you know,

652
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: at like eight o'clock or whatever it was. Um. So

653
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: that was a scenario where it made sense because it

654
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: all came down to how do you get to that

655
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: tree stand without spooking deer? Um. So I think in

656
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: your scenario, if there's not activity early in the morning,

657
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: I would use that to your benefit in my opinion, right,

658
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: And it's probably what I need to do. It's just

659
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: now I have to go in um when the next

660
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and that's where I'm going to go

661
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: really look for the best possible tree I mean this.

662
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say you got to

663
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: grind it out right, It's it's that the the sucky part,

664
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: if you want to say that, nothing really sucks about

665
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: bow hunting in my opinion, But the frustrating part is

666
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: knowing that in order for me to find the perfect

667
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: tree stand location, I'm gonna literally have to set it

668
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: up on a day that I feel I'm gonna be

669
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: hunting that wind the most you know on a day

670
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: that there's a mimicking wind. So let's say northwest, and

671
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get in the tree, and I'm

672
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to start throwing some of those milk weeds

673
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: or throwing something out of the tree to see where

674
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: my wind is actually going, to see if it's not

675
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: looping around in some of these pinch points, or to

676
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: see if it's hugging another ridge. If I'm gonna be

677
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: safe on a north northwest wind, and knowing that that

678
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of hard work involved physically

679
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: setting up and tearing down maybe one or two tree

680
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: stands before I find the right particular tree. Yeah, it's

681
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: that brutal, brutal summer work, but it yeah, it all

682
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: pays off in the end hopefully. Right. Well, yep, that's

683
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: the goal. I mean, because you know, trying to accomplish goals,

684
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: right if I wasn't so I have goals. You have goals,

685
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: you know if I'm I'm not okay with shooting a

686
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: three year old buck, right, So I'm gonna be very

687
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: detail oriented and how I approach uh this this season. Yeah,

688
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: well it sounds like I mean, it's cool what what's

689
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: cooled in is that, UM, you know, just over the

690
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: course of the last three years, I think we're going

691
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know, three years or four years

692
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 1: or whatever it's been that we've been doing this podcast together. UM,

693
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: just hearing how you know your strategy and your approach

694
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: has shifted and evolved, UM, is really cool to see.

695
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: And I think I'm sure mine mirrors that, like both

696
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: of us personally have changed our approach so much and

697
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: learned so much from hearing from our guests, from bouncing

698
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: back our own ideas between each other. UM, I think

699
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: you and me we've evolved a lot, and I think

700
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: our hunting has improved because of that. And I hope

701
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: that the people who are listening, I hope they've seen

702
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: something similar happen for themselves, because I think I think,

703
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely it's definitely paying off, you know,

704
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: having these discussions with people. It's making it's making us

705
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: change things, which is changing our level success. I think, right,

706
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna add one more thing to this and and

707
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: then I have some questions for you. Actually, But so

708
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: my kid is due, My my third kid is going

709
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: to be born sometime in mid to late September, right,

710
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: which means that I'm not going to get a lot

711
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: of time to hunt in October, right, So my I

712
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to be able to get into

713
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: the tree stand um too until maybe November, like the

714
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: first to second week November, which, if you talk to

715
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: some of our guests on this podcast, is an okay thing. Right.

716
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be forced by the hand of

717
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: nature to not hunt as much as I normally do

718
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: because and I'm going to use that as maybe a

719
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: learning experience to see, Okay, is if by me laying

720
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: off October, am I going to be able to have

721
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: a better first time in rut experience to these stand

722
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: locations that I haven't hunted close to or have not

723
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: hunted period? Right? And I'm gonna see if that is

724
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: going to convince me to lay off on some of

725
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: my farms and maybe hunts you know, public land or

726
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: scrap some of these other non um I don't know

727
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: what the word is. I'm looking for the non high

728
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 1: priority farms. You know. If I want to go kill

729
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: a doe, I'll go to this farm. Right if that's

730
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: gonna force me to say, Okay, you've taught this has

731
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: taught me that I'm not going to go into my

732
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: good farms where my hitless bucks are until the rut. Yeah,

733
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: I mean think I gotta believe that you're gonna see that.

734
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: I just think that if you look at the basic

735
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: core elements here, you're especially given the fact that there's

736
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: not like a bunch of other guys bow hunting that

737
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: same property. So by the fact that you can get

738
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: out of there and leave it pretty pressure free, relatively, um.

739
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 1: And then when you show up during the rut, already

740
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: deer movement's gonna be as best and now it hasn't

741
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: been dampened by your previous activity check and trail cameras

742
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 1: and or hunting. I mean, I think that's gonna make

743
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: a huge difference. So it's a bummer you can't hunt

744
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: in October. But I would not be surprised if, you know,

745
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: assuming weather and all that kind of stuff lines up

746
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: for you when you start your rutification stuff, I bet

747
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty gangbusters. Yeah. I have a question

748
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: for you. Have you ever had to have a conversation

749
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: with another person that you share hunting property with about Hey,

750
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: your access is is not good or your um where

751
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: your tree stands are are not good or anything like

752
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: that to say, hey, man, if you laid off one

753
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: or two extra weeks, I think we'd we'd see better

754
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: deer on this property. Have you ever had to have

755
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: a conversation like that, you know, I have not. Um.

756
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Usually whenever I have hunted of property, well, so, whenever

757
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 1: I've hunt a property where I knew the other people

758
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: that hunted it, um, it was always like, uh, we

759
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: made our decisions kind of jointly, so we would decide like, hey,

760
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: we should hunt stand A and B, and here's the

761
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: best way to get to it. UM. I've not had

762
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: to hunt a place with someone like not with a friend, UM,

763
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 1: where like they're going rogue and doing their own thing,

764
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: and it was like screwing everything up. UM. I have

765
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: hunted properties where there was a bunch of other hunters

766
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: that I just didn't you know, no, no, well, and

767
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, in those situations, I didn't feel

768
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: like I was in a position where it could tell

769
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: them what to do, recommend what they do. So and

770
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to to say that what they're doing

771
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: is wrong or right, you know, I just feel from

772
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: the information that I found out if you wait, you know,

773
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: and in a way it would be beneficial to them

774
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: as well. I'm not trying to make it all about me,

775
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: because they have permission on some of these properties that

776
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: I hunt the same as me, and they can literally

777
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: if they want to hit every day morning to night,

778
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: they can do that. They have the permission to do that. Um,

779
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, it would probably be beneficial

780
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: to us both if we laid off the property until

781
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: if you want to hunt, does man go hunt a

782
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: dough on on a field edge somewhere, because they'll pop out,

783
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, an hour before dart. You know. The way

784
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: to do that. What's that trail campis no? No? Say hey,

785
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: uh so? And so I really think you should listen

786
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: to episode number one and fifty three of the Wired

787
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: dot podcast. Yeah. Right, then what they'll do is they'll

788
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: listen to every one of the podcasts and probably locate

789
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: my stand locations based off of the information that I've

790
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: already shared. So no, thank you, Maybe that would backfire.

791
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: I under totally understand what you're saying that. I mean,

792
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: that is challenging. I mean, that's you know, that's the

793
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: challenge of hunting land. You don't own the challenge of

794
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: hunting public land. Um, it's like what you What you

795
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: also have to do then is you can either try

796
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: to influence them or try to understand what they're doing.

797
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: So if you know they're going and they're mucking up

798
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: a certain section, then you got to say, okay, so

799
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: where are they doing that? Are they always hunting this

800
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: little corner? And then use that to your advantage, so

801
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: you can say, Okay, that is an area where there's

802
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 1: been a lot of pressure. How's that going to changels

803
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 1: of the property? Where are they going to push the

804
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: deer too? And then maybe that can help you narrow

805
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: down your options. Um, but not ideal, that's for sure. Yeah,

806
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: it is what it is. And you know, just like

807
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: guys who hunt in public ground, man, I gotta I

808
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: gotta share of properties with other guys too. So now

809
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm doing some public land hunting in

810
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: Michigan this year. Yes, why I think. I just want

811
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: to try. I want to try. I've I've enjoyed the

812
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: public stuff I've done in the past. You know, my

813
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: tripped Montana was awesome. I really enjoy um hearing the

814
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: stories of guys that are hunting public land and seeing

815
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 1: how they're doing it, and just the just the challenge

816
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: of it. So I kind of just want to see

817
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: can I can I pull it off in Michigan? Um?

818
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Because I think it's about as tough as it gets

819
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: um as far as public land hunting, trying to trying

820
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: to do it in in southern Michigan is not easy. Um.

821
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like a little trial for myself.

822
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: Can at least put myself in a position to see

823
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: a decent buck. I don't know if I'll kill one,

824
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: but I want to get out there and see if

825
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I can figure it out. So question, Yeah, how many

826
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: tags do you get in Michigan? You get two buck tags?

827
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: You can get up to two buck tags. Okay, so

828
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: you can get two buck tags. So so yeah, obviously

829
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: in Michigan, holy Field is the number one the number

830
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: one priority priority. Um. And are you deciding to hunt

831
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: public ground because you want to stay off your property

832
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: until the absolute right conditions? Exactly? Yeah, I want to

833
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: In the past. You know, I always have a handful

834
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: of properties that can hunt around Michigan. I've got the

835
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: main spots and then there's a couple of kind of

836
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: secondary places that can go. Um, but I wanted to

837
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,439
Speaker 1: add to that list a little bit more this year

838
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: and public you know, on the days that are kind

839
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: of not great days to be out hunting on one

840
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 1: of my good spots. This will give me something to

841
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: do to get in the woods and learn trying to

842
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: stuff go in there, see what I see? Um. So

843
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm trying to try and give myself an opportunity to

844
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 1: hunt more without screwing up the good stuff and force

845
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: myself into learning situations. So questions for you, all right,

846
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: I got some I'm sorry, I got some more questions

847
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, and tell me if you want me

848
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 1: to wait on this line of questionings until until we

849
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: get to that point. But I have questions about how

850
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: you're going to approach this, this holy Field thing. Let's well,

851
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: let's all right. I want to talk about what I'm

852
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: doing on the public land scouting so far. Okay, let's

853
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: talk about that first. Okay, we'll do that, and then

854
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 1: definitely we'll get to holy Field. Um. So with the

855
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: public land stuff here in Michigan, Um, it is obviously

856
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots lots of guys that hear

857
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: and I've hunted public land in Michigan before, um, just

858
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: not with any success yet. Um So, what I'm trying

859
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: to do is I'm trying to find a number of

860
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: places that are as far as possible from UH city centers.

861
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: And it seemed like just hard to access, just like nasty,

862
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: either wet or brushy or hilly or something that's just

863
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: gonna make it a little tougher for people. So so

864
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: I found one place in particular that I'm very encouraged by,

865
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: and I went and scouted it last week, and um,

866
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 1: excuse me. What I did was I, um, you know,

867
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: first did a lot of scouting from online, looking at maps,

868
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: figuring out where the property lines are, figuring out, you know,

869
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: just the lay of the land. And I found a

870
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: lot of areas that looked like there could be really

871
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: good deer bedding that most hunters wouldn't be willing to

872
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: go to because they were very far from access points

873
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: and they're really wet. There's like some streams and some

874
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: crooks and stuff that running through here, and lots of

875
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: swampy cat tally type stuff. Um So my game plan

876
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: for that first day was I located this one kind

877
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: of general region. It looked really good it looked kind

878
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: of like your your prototypical like swampy marshbuck bedding type stuff,

879
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: where you've got the creek running through this area, you've

880
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: got cat tails and swamp all around it, and then

881
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: there's little points of high ground that kind of extend

882
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: out into it. So my plan was to get out

883
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: there and walk that edge and try to find where

884
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 1: the deer were bedded along there in this kind of

885
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how. Maybe it's a forty acre section

886
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: that's pretty far away from any roads, UM that's in

887
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: the kind of core of this area. And it was

888
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's it's good looking stuff. Like long

889
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: story short, I came out of it like very encouraged.

890
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of the tree stands. I

891
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: did see a couple, but nothing right. Well, there was

892
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: one really old one right in an area liked um.

893
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: But otherwise it looks relatively unscathed um as much as

894
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: it can be, and like just tough, like if anyone

895
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: wanted to get here, they would have to just they

896
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: have to be kind of crazy like me. UM. So

897
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: the other thing that I like about it is that

898
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: I think I can access it by doing exactly what

899
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: you talked about I can either walk this stream in

900
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: with waiters on, or take a canoe and canoe in

901
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: and avoid bumping deer a lot of deer, I think,

902
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 1: and actually canoe right to the back end of where

903
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: I want to get into, hop out of the river,

904
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: and then climb up into a tree with just a

905
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: very short walk. So I tried to find places I'd

906
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: be able to access with the water, and I tried

907
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: to find these betting areas, and I ended up even

908
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: though it was a little late. I wish I'd done

909
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: this in like March or February, when you know, it

910
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: wasn't all greened up, but it was gone. Um. So

911
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: I was able to get and actually found some good

912
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: betting areas, found like what definitely looked like some buckbeds.

913
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: You know, it was cool because I enjoy you know,

914
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: we hear so many people talk about trying to find

915
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: buckbeds or trying to find betting areas, and that the

916
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: places they should be. You know, the Dannon Fault. He

917
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: was on the show recently, he's been on ours. Um

918
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: so he talks about you know you're gonna find him

919
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: on these little points to extend out into the swamp.

920
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Or you're gonna find him on the islands or stuff

921
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: like that. UM. So i'd see these spots in the app,

922
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: i'd see them in person. I like, all right, that

923
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: there should be a bed there, And then I sneak

924
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: out there and no ship there. It is there's a

925
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: buck bed, or there's a there's an oval and there's

926
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: some hair in it and there's a rub um. So

927
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: it's great when you can confirm those things and apply

928
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,280
Speaker 1: it in the real world. So I got a handful

929
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: of those spots kind of marked on my GPS. I

930
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: picked out a couple of trees that I could potentially

931
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: get into if I wanted to hunt there and um,

932
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: and that was like step one. I thought that was great.

933
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: I liked it. Did some wars general hiking just to

934
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: kind of better understand the lay of the land. UM.

935
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 1: But I had like a good idea, Okay, here's a

936
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: few places I can get into be close to deer bedding, um,

937
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: that I could sneak into and like mid October or

938
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: something and observe and possibly be able to make a

939
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: move if there is a somewhat mature buck in the area. Um.

940
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: And then there's another section of the property I wanted

941
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: to look at because it looked like it was another

942
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: spot that was far from relatively far from the access points.

943
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: So I go driving down this one road and uh,

944
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: we didn't talk about this, right, I'm pretty sure we

945
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 1: didn't talk about this. So um, I go driving down

946
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: this one access road to get to this kind of

947
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: far away section of the public out of the way.

948
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: And I go driving down this road and I start

949
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: seeing signs. Um, on the map, it looks like a

950
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: regular road, but now I start seeing signs like the

951
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of thing like if you're reading this, you're in

952
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: range or you know, be prepared to die, that kind

953
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: of stuff. And I was like, oh, this doesn't look

954
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: like the right place. And then I looked at my

955
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: left and there's a guy sitting in like a golf

956
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: cart staring at me. Oh my good boy. Um, but

957
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: really nice guy. We end up striking up a conversation

958
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: and I you know, it ends up that road is

959
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: not a public road anymore as a private road, um,

960
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 1: but it looked public for a while. So I apologize

961
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: and we started talking and long story short, um, he

962
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: ended up giving me tentative permission. This isn't like for

963
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,400
Speaker 1: sure yet but he sounds like this would be okay,

964
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: um for me to hunt his private land. Who's got

965
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: a little piece of private land adjacent to the public,

966
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: and then um for me to able to access the

967
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,800
Speaker 1: public from there too, because nobody else is allowed to

968
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: drive down that road or parked. Um. So with that,

969
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 1: I can get to a portion of this public land

970
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: that is almost one mile literally almost one mile away

971
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: from the nearest other parking area or pull off or

972
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: anything like that. So as far as public land, it

973
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: could be really good. It could be really good. But

974
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: I could be completely wrong. You know. We could get

975
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: there in October and there could be guys everywhere, but

976
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it will so um. So I'm excited

977
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: about that. I'm gonna do some more scouting in that

978
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: new section now here in the next week probably, and

979
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: then I just want to go into this season with

980
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: a handful of good options that you know, in that

981
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:40,240
Speaker 1: mid October time frame, early in mid October, um, before

982
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm targeting holy Field, I've got somewhere to try some

983
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: new things and let see what's going on. So that's

984
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: that's all right, holy Field, That's that's beside the point, right,

985
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna be very cautious with that buck. You're gonna

986
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: be planned to a t with that buck, wait for

987
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: the right conditions. Now, is this whole public land thing

988
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: that you're doing the scouting? Are you gonna going to

989
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: be trying some more aggressive tactics on this piece of

990
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: property because it's one of those things where it's like

991
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be well whether or not Holy

992
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: Field is around yet or not? Right? We don't do

993
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: you do you? Can you confirm that yet? I haven't

994
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: seen him in a couple of months. Right, Okay, So

995
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 1: are you gonna be more aggressive on this public land?

996
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: You're gonna be diving in further and harder. Um, you know,

997
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: get trying to get closer closer to betting areas on

998
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: these uh, these public land hunts. Um, just to I guess,

999
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: test out your skills or are you gonna be Um

1000
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: it's somewhat aggressively aggressively conservative if that makes sense. Yeah,

1001
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: So I am definitely going to be approaching the public

1002
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: land thing as UM. I'm not going to be afraid

1003
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: to screw things up because I've got I've got my

1004
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: other core things I'm gonna be hunting. Ohio, I might

1005
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: be hunting Iowa now still again, um so, and I

1006
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: obviously number one priority for the year's Holy Field in Michigan.

1007
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: So the public land stuff is going to be trying

1008
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: new things, swing for the fences, be aggressive and it's

1009
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: probably not gonna work out, but maybe it will or

1010
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'll learn something, or maybe I'll see him and

1011
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,439
Speaker 1: you know, be able to do the bump and dump

1012
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm gonna try stuff. Um, it's it's it's

1013
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: purely going to be a testing ground. Um that will

1014
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 1: be kind of cool. So so, yeah, I'm gonna be aggressive,

1015
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all hanging hunt stuff. I'm gonna be

1016
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: pushing in close to betting areas. Um, I'm gonna be observing,

1017
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: changing things up the next time in and uh and

1018
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: just seeing what I can figure out. Awesome about that.

1019
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 1: I think that's uh gonna teach you a lot. Yeah,

1020
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: I think. So we're gonna learn from failure, are going

1021
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: to learn from I guess mission accomplished. And then I think,

1022
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 1: you know, I think anytime you do something like this,

1023
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 1: and we we've talked about this before, anytime you go

1024
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: outside of your typical comfort zone and try a new

1025
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: thing like this, either like you said, fail or succeed.

1026
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: You can take stuff from that that can then be

1027
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: applied to your main hunting. So I think I'll be

1028
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 1: able to take stuff from this public experience and apply

1029
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 1: that back to my main Michigan spots in some way

1030
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: or to what I do in Ohio or wherever. Um. Right,

1031
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: So I think, if nothing else, will have some good stories.

1032
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: Um probably me screwing things up. But well, since how

1033
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: you learned? Man? Yeah, I've see I think I said,

1034
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: you know, I've started. I started hunting what I would say,

1035
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: relatively hardcore right, putting the time and making a commitment

1036
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: to bow hunting in about two thousand and six, and

1037
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it was until about two thousand and twelve,

1038
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: maybe maybe even a little before that or even a

1039
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 1: little after. But there's a range there for three years that,

1040
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: you know, six seven, eight years until I kind of

1041
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: figured out what I needed to be doing, right. So,

1042
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: and I still learned something new every year. Never stop learning, yep.

1043
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: So do you want to talk about Holyfield? Then I

1044
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: want to talk about holy Field? Man? Did you see what?

1045
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: Did you see the film? I saw? Um? I saw

1046
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: the teaser for it. I'm going to it's only eleven minutes.

1047
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: It's quick and easy. But yeah, finally got the story

1048
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: of holy Field to this point on video. Um, we

1049
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: just launched it this week, so it's it's on wire

1050
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: hunt dot com and our Facebook page and our YouTube channel. Okay, um,

1051
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna watch it as soon as I'm

1052
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: done with this podcast to let me know you think yep, okay,

1053
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: but holy Field, holy Field. But before we get into

1054
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: holy Field, let's take our last pause of the day

1055
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: to thank our partners at White Tailed Properties and producer

1056
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: Spencer new Hearth is back with us today along with

1057
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: a White Help Properties land specialists to give us our

1058
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: weekly dose of white tail wisdom. This week with the

1059
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: White Tailed Properties, we are joined by Brad Ferris, a

1060
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: land specialist out of Central Mississippi. Bread is going to

1061
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: be telling us about some Midwest hunting techniques that don't

1062
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: apply to Southern white tails. The biggest difference in in

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00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: hunting white tails in the South first as the Midwest,

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00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: to me is it has to do more with climate

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00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: than anything. You still want to be very respectful of

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00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: the deer where they your sanctuary areas, you're quiet areas,

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00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: I mean I mean, I treat that exactly the same.

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00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: In the South. It's usually not as hilly in most places,

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: so there's not as many natural pinch points as you

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00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: find and kind of the rolling hills of the of

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00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: the Midwest have found, and the deer, typically the mature

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: deer don't move. They're not on their feet as much

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00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: in the South until the rut gets here. I mean,

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00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: I know that's common in the in the Midwest too,

1075
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: but the many times you won't see a deer in

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: the daylight and tool you know that four or five

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: rough pier and then once that's going, they're they're done.

1078
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: You don't see them again. So the one thing we

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00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: don't have here that Midwest two hunters have is we

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00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: don't have the bitter cold temperatures that we can really

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00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: get deer on their feet in a food plot scenario,

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00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: whether it be standing corn, standing beans, some type of

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00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: crop that we put out there to leave for the

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: deer in the in the frigid temperatures and they only

1085
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: feed early because it's cold. We don't we don't have

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00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: that here. You do not have that opportunity. In many

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00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: places they have brows you're around in the South because

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: we just don't get that little temperatures cold stuff. So

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00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot of techniques for the same. You just have

1090
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: to adjust your thought process because deer do not move

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: as much, so you've got to really focus on trying

1092
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: to get close to them in those tight spaces without

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00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: spoken them because that's the hackle move off from them

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00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 1: hardly ever in the South. If you'd like to learn

1095
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: more and to see the properties that Bread currently has

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: is listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com.

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00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Backslash Ferris that's f A R R I s. Holy

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00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: Field is like my shipwreck, right, yeah, except for much

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00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: much smaller, well size that that size don't matter, right,

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00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: So you think you're thinking about holy Field quite a bit.

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00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you think he's going to be a

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00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: five year old this year, right, I believe? So okay,

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: And you made the decision to not shoot him with

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: a muzzleloader late season last year, right correct? All right,

1105
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: So any type of emotional breakdowns that you want to

1106
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: talk with us about before you decide not to shoot

1107
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 1: him this year, if there's no chance in the world

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00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: that I will not shoot him this year, if if

1109
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 1: if I come to you in November, like Hemming and Han,

1110
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 1: you have permission to fly to Michigan and punch me

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00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: in the face. All right, deal, there's no way. Like

1112
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: it was already like a crazy thing to do last year.

1113
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad I did it, but but this year, I mean,

1114
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no chance this. I'm ready for

1115
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: this thing to I'm ready to wrap this this experience

1116
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: up and to try to go in for the final kill.

1117
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: And I feel like i feel like I've learned a

1118
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: lot and I've got a plan in place, and like

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm what's cool is that every year when I'm hunting

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Speaker 1: my main Michigan spots, I'm always trying to tweak the situation,

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01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: make it a little better, fix some things. And we

1122
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,479
Speaker 1: talked about this all time, don't Ohio or different places

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Speaker 1: that haunt. I'm always trying to hang the stands a

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: little better, do this a little better. But I feel like,

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Speaker 1: because I'm so like, I feel like I'm putting a

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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pressure on myself to make this one

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01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: specific thing happen. Like I'm I'm making like massive changes

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01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: or like every little thing I can think of that

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01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: I would have liked to improve in past years, I

1130
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: would like maybe do a quarter of that would actually

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01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: get done. Um. Now, it's like every tiny little thing

1132
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: I can possibly do, I want to try to do. Um.

1133
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: So it's forcing me to take extreme levels of detailed

1134
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: analysis or like just more work. It's just it's forcing

1135
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 1: me to do more, which is a good thing. It's

1136
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 1: forcing me to become a better hunter. Um. So there's

1137
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: lots and lots and lots of little things I'm doing

1138
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: to try to just give myself a little bit better

1139
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 1: of odds. And I know there's you know, the odds

1140
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: are always gonna be stacked against me. Um. You know,

1141
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: probably not gonna kill him. But I was I was

1142
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: thinking about that the other night. Right. I feel that

1143
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: you were doing a lot right this last year to

1144
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: get on him, right. I mean you literally the day,

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01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean there was days you decided, Okay, maybe maybe

1146
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be hunting this many days in a row.

1147
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: And what he came to He came in borderline daylight

1148
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,439
Speaker 1: dark the day you decided not to hunt. Right, Yeah,

1149
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: that day I just said that that they had decided

1150
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna shoot him. I saw him at sixty

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: yards right now. But I'm talking about before that. What

1152
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to kill him. Yeah, when you were

1153
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: with a bow during during I mean you were playing

1154
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: cat and mouse with him and fine tuning your set

1155
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 1: up throughout that entire month of you know, late October

1156
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:19,960
Speaker 1: and November. You know, you were very close. So right,

1157
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 1: So my opinion is that don't overthink this upcoming year

1158
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: because what you did last year was right. It was

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01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: just a matter of circumstance that he either decided not

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01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: to show up that night or Um, the wind was,

1161
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 1: you know, a little too breezy for you, and the

1162
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: shot was too long. And I feel if you, if

1163
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 1: you micromanaged that too much, you're going to You're you're

1164
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Speaker 1: going to ruin it. I hear what you're saying, and

1165
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a fair point. Um, I hope, I hope.

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Speaker 1: I don't risk doing that. But let me tell you.

1167
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you you and you let me tell

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01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: you the things I'm planning on doing or that I

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01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: have been doing, and then you can tell me if

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01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: you think I'm on the right path or if I'm

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01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: going too far. How about that? Okay, So there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of things going on my mind. Number One, I

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01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: need to try to make this habitat as absolutely, as

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01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: absolutely as attractive as possible for him during the hunting

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: season to give me that, you know, one percent greater

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01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: chance that he'll be on my property during daylight on

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Speaker 1: one of the days of hunting. So it's a few

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01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: changes I'm making. I did a little bit of improvement

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: to some betting areas, um, to hopefully give me a

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01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 1: little bit better chance that he might spend more time

1181
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: better on my property. Um. He does not seem to

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01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: bet on my property ton. He usually seems to bed

1183
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: just next door adjacent to me, very close. Um. But

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01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: that's and I think that is the reason why many

1185
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: of the encounters I had with him, he was just

1186
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: over on the other side of the property line in

1187
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: that good betting cover. Um. So I'm trying to improve

1188
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: in a couple of key spots on the farm a

1189
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: little bit better cover. That's one thing. Number two. I'm

1190
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: trying to improve what I've got going on my food

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01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: plots just a little bit again to try to give

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01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: me a little bit better chance he'll be out earlier

1193
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: in the daylight on that food. So one of those

1194
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: things is I'm going to do a better job of

1195
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 1: installing my food plot screens. Um. Last year I put

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Speaker 1: a food plot screen around my main like front food plot,

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01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: which is the spot where I can't full drawn him. Um.

1198
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Speaker 1: But I didn't plant thick enough, so it was really spotty.

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Speaker 1: It didn't give nearly as good of a seclusion as

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01:04:33,840 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: it should have. UM. So this year, I'm going to

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01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: plant a little bit earlier. I'm gonna plant thicker um,

1202
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: and so I'm really gonna hope it's going to be

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Speaker 1: basically a wall that surrounds this whole plot so that

1204
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: it can't anything that goes in there, can't see the road,

1205
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 1: it can't see this big adjacent crop field next to it,

1206
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 1: and of course anything or anyone on the outside that

1207
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: won't be abill see in the plot. So that's one thing.

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Speaker 1: Number two Again, this is all like how can I

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01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 1: get him out or just a little bit earlier, or

1210
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: make him come over into the open where I can shoot, because,

1211
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 1: like I said, the one time I came to full

1212
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: draw him, it was just a little bit too dark.

1213
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel comfortable touching off a forty yard

1214
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: shot at that light level. UM. So if I can

1215
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: get him to come out five minutes earlier or three

1216
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: minutes earlier. That could be the difference. Um So, another

1217
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: thing I'm gonna do is I'm going to shift this

1218
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: food plot over um about forty yards. So right now

1219
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: the food plot, the open you know, carpet of food

1220
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: starts almost right on, very near to a property line,

1221
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: and there's cover on the property line on the proper

1222
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: lend side, and then as soon as you go to

1223
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: where I can shoot, you're basically in the open um.

1224
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: So what happens though, is that these deer stand on

1225
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: the other side of the line in the cover for

1226
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: a little bit before they come into where I can shoot,

1227
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: because you know, they don't want to step out, and

1228
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: they open until late sometimes, or at least the mature

1229
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: box do occasionally. Um So, what I'm gonna do is

1230
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shift this food plot four yards in two

1231
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: tighter into the core of mine and take what used

1232
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: to be open field and now have that forty yards

1233
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: swath become tall grass and brambles and weeds and stuff,

1234
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: something that hopefully they will feel comfortable standing and milling

1235
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 1: around in in daylight before they step on into the

1236
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: open of the food plot. So that might buy me

1237
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: two minutes on one night with Holy field, or maybe

1238
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: that will get him out there a couple of months earlier. Um,

1239
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: or maybe a dough will come in and then that's

1240
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: the doll ends up pulling whole fields across the line

1241
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:33,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. So that's one small thing I'm gonna do. Um.

1242
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I need to make sure the food plots

1243
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,200
Speaker 1: coming really well because you know, like you talked about

1244
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: the property property again, it's it's it's covered deficient. It

1245
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: has some good cover, but mainly the best covers on

1246
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: the neighbors. So in order for me to really have

1247
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 1: a good chance of holy Field, I have to encourage

1248
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: him to come over to my side. And the only

1249
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: way I've been able to do that is with these

1250
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: food plots. So they've got to be in there, you know,

1251
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: They've got to come in well basically. So I've been

1252
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: trying to get them sprayed since I've been home, had

1253
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: all sorts of debacles. Um real quick. Two days ago,

1254
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: I went out to go spray the food plots. Finally

1255
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: stopped raining. I thought, okay, I can. It's been raining

1256
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: like over and over every day for a while now.

1257
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 1: So now the weeds are growing really tall on the

1258
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 1: food plots. I'm like, I gotta get out there and

1259
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: spray it. So I go out to get him a A

1260
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: A TV. The A t V is dead, so then

1261
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: I pushed the A t V out behind the house.

1262
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 1: I didn't have a jump pack, so I used my

1263
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: truck to jump the A TV. Get that going, fill

1264
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: up the sprayer with stuff, drive out to the food plot,

1265
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: get ready to go do all this stuff, and then

1266
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 1: the sprayer won't work. It's not like what in the world.

1267
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: And I'm all frustrated, like I'm never gonna get this

1268
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 1: stuff done. So I'm like, well, must be a bad

1269
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: connection between the clamps on the battery. Dumblow. So I

1270
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: gotta turn off the A t V to mess with

1271
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: the battery down beneath it. So I turn up the

1272
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: A t V. I messed with the connections for the sprayer,

1273
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: and then i'd go turn the A TV back on,

1274
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: and now the A TV won't start. So my forwarda

1275
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: didn't work. My sprayer didn't work. Um, and I was

1276
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 1: like stranding out there in the woods. So that was

1277
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 1: a real pain in the butt. I to walk back,

1278
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: go to the truck, drive to a store by jump pack,

1279
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: come back, um, and still a sprayer wouldn't work. So

1280
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: I ended up having a buddy come over yesterday who

1281
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 1: had one. He helped me spray stuff. So the plots

1282
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: are sprayed and now I just need to um probably

1283
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: hit him one more time with spray in like July

1284
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: to keep the weeds down. And then in August, I'm

1285
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 1: going to have a friend help me out and get

1286
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: those planet for me. Actually, since I'm not going to

1287
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: be I'm not gonna be around to plant this year,

1288
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 1: so I'm counting on a friend to to see it

1289
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 1: for me. But hopefully I'll have it all prepped and

1290
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 1: ready to go. Um. So that's what I'm doing from

1291
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: like a have a test standpoint, is that kind of stuff,

1292
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 1: making sure the plots are high quality, making sure the

1293
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: plots are secluded, and making sure that maybe there's a

1294
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: few tweaks I can make so that deer will come

1295
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: in during daylight a little bit earlier during those those

1296
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 1: key time periods. UM, got a question before you go

1297
01:08:55,960 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: any further, ye, is holy field crossing a fence that

1298
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: is not on your property from the timber to let's

1299
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: say an egg field walking a fence line and then

1300
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: crossing that additional fence line into your property, or is

1301
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: there a part of your border with the other property

1302
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: that is timber on like the your property butts right

1303
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: up against their timber. So they're saying, is that is

1304
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: it only timber to field or is there timber to

1305
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,559
Speaker 1: timber every Yeah? Yeah, because your goal is to put

1306
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 1: a lot of cover on your property to where deer

1307
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:38,800
Speaker 1: will feel comfortable coming out. And this is me, uh,

1308
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate. But if he is going to be

1309
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:49,800
Speaker 1: jumping a fence into a already cultivated egg field, is

1310
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: that going to do any good? So? And that's just

1311
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: that's not me shipping on your idea. That's me you know,

1312
01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: brainstorming going if the point is to to make more

1313
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: cover and have them feel comfortable if they have to

1314
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: expose themselves before they go back into cover with do

1315
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: you feel that's gonna work? So, so here's what I know.

1316
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: Um So, what I know is that he seems to

1317
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: bed the majority of his time in this adjacent section

1318
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: and he does have to go there, so there's crop

1319
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: fields kind of surrounding it on two or three sides.

1320
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 1: Um My little patch though, provides what I think is

1321
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:35,599
Speaker 1: the best like safe ice cream opportunity he has before

1322
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: he goes to his main meal in the big fields,

1323
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: so he can go directly off that little bedding area

1324
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: and feeding like corner bean fields next to it. But

1325
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: there are some other hunters that you know, could deter

1326
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: him from doing that. Um. And then you also have

1327
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: to be out in the wide open Um. He usually

1328
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: tends to go the direction towards me, and it's just

1329
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: that he'll hang up. He'll be like staying in the

1330
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 1: cover before he comes out. Um or he I mean,

1331
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: he has come out into the open several times and

1332
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: I've seen him, but it's either when I'm not there,

1333
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 1: or it's you know, just at last light or um,

1334
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: you know it's in late season. Late season is a

1335
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 1: different game. I want to kill him before late in

1336
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: the late season, that'said completely different story. He's daylight active

1337
01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: like crazy, and he's super killable. In the late season.

1338
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 1: On my little section, he he throws caution to the win.

1339
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 1: In the last two years in a row, he's done

1340
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:34,559
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. UM. So if if for some

1341
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 1: reason I can't kill him early, and somehow he has

1342
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: there's a miracle, he makes it through gun season and

1343
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,799
Speaker 1: he's alive in December. It's like he just he becomes

1344
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: a different deer, and he just hangs out in my

1345
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: food plots at noon or at two, and he's there

1346
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: like day after day after day. Um. And that's what

1347
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: I saw last year. You know, I hunted a couple

1348
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 1: of times and didn't see him, but he was at

1349
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: the other food plot. And then I hunted one time

1350
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: and he was there. That was the time, you know,

1351
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,360
Speaker 1: that last day, and I said I was gonna shoot him.

1352
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 1: And then after that I stayed out and then I

1353
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 1: looked at cameras and he was there, you know, on

1354
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 1: the fifteenth at noon, the sixteenth at eleven, the seventeenth

1355
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: at four. I mean, so he does wonky things in December,

1356
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: but in October and November he sticks to that cover

1357
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 1: pretty closely, um, unless he's chasing the dough. So I

1358
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: just need him to to feel I need the doughs

1359
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: to feel comfort enough to come out by me. And

1360
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,599
Speaker 1: I offer like the one unique thing in the air

1361
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: because there's corns and being corns and being everywhere, beans everywhere.

1362
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,599
Speaker 1: My thought processes that by offering brassicas and oats, it's

1363
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: that variety. They want a little bit something different. And

1364
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: so what usually happens here is that these deer come

1365
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: out of the cover. They could go towards the corner

1366
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: bean fields, but they almost always hit my food plot

1367
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 1: first and then transition out to the main fields after that.

1368
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: So I just need holy Field to be part of

1369
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: that group of deer that hits my food plots first

1370
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 1: or the fouls of dough in um when I'm there.

1371
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: So so that's that's what I'm trying to do. I

1372
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: don't know if that answered your question, but yeah, so,

1373
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, he could expose himself for a short

1374
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 1: period of time just to get into cover, and that

1375
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: would be a staging area before he actually comes into

1376
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: your food plot. On the neighbors are saying no on

1377
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: this because you're moving a food plot forty yards right,

1378
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: oh right, So I'm what I'm hoping. What I'm hoping

1379
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: is that, yeah, he might stage in that little forty

1380
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 1: year and it's not you know, I'm not thinking that's

1381
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna buy me a lot of time. But maybe it's

1382
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: one night he comes out and he feels, you know,

1383
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: just a little bit more comfortable. So five minutes before

1384
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: the end of shooting light, he steps two steps into

1385
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: that tall grass, and maybe last year he wouldn't have.

1386
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: And this year he takes three steps over to my

1387
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: side or whatever, and I can get a shot. You know,

1388
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,679
Speaker 1: it might not make a difference at all, but who knows,

1389
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: maybe it'll make that little tiny bit I need. Um.

1390
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 1: So I don't know. But but to your point, last year,

1391
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: it could have happened. You know, he was I was

1392
01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: a full draw forty yards right at last light. But

1393
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,799
Speaker 1: that was a situation where it would have helped um.

1394
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: But the next day he came out in broad daylight

1395
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: and was in the crop field, the wide open crop field,

1396
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 1: and was walking along there and something on the road

1397
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: spooked him. But if something, you know, if if a

1398
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: car hadn't driven by or whatever, if that hadn't happened,

1399
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: he was walking down the edge of the field straight

1400
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 1: to me. Um. You know, so maybe it's a little

1401
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 1: bit of bad luck there. You know, it could have

1402
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: been completely different. He might have walked right through, been

1403
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 1: in front of me, and with an hour and a

1404
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: half a daylight left, I could have shot him. You

1405
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: just never know. So maybe I'm going too far, Maybe

1406
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 1: I don't need to do this stuff, but I'm trying

1407
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: trying to have these different things, like all these um oh,

1408
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: what's the like redundancies? So like if A doesn't work,

1409
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 1: I've got B, C and D lined up that should

1410
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 1: help me a little bit. And um, so I'm trying

1411
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: to stack all these different things. Maybe I won't need

1412
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,080
Speaker 1: to have done all these things, but if I've got

1413
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: all the different things in my favorite that might be

1414
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: just enough. Um. And you know, I'm I'm also of

1415
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: just battling. This is a small property. There's hunters all

1416
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 1: around it, and it's very easy that you know, someone

1417
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: else could shoot him. So I'm just trying to get

1418
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: every little tiny thing in my favor that he might

1419
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: prefer to spend that evening closer to me than not. Um. So,

1420
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: so that's that's that's what's going on there. So that's

1421
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 1: the habitat stuff. Um. You know, I'm tweaking some stands

1422
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 1: like I'm going and I'm proving the cover in a

1423
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: lot of my tree stands. Um, I'm gonna add like

1424
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: some fake limbs, some real limbs, and like zip tie

1425
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: some limbs, and some places where maybe I need more,

1426
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get some fake Christmas tree limbs

1427
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: and put those up around the tree stands stuff like that. Um,

1428
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 1: just especially there's some spots that get really exposed and

1429
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: the leaves come down. So if I'm still hunting him

1430
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: in the late season, I found last year like I

1431
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: felt kind of hung out to dry in a couple

1432
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 1: of spots. Um, I'm gonna try and make sure that

1433
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: doesn't happen this year. UM. There was a location on

1434
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: one of those open fields where he did come out

1435
01:15:58,360 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: a couple of times during the rut where he chang

1436
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,559
Speaker 1: sta dough popped out along that field and follow the

1437
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: edge down a little bit, which had surprised me. I

1438
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: didn't think he would do that, but he did, so

1439
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 1: I never had a stand over there. You might remember

1440
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: me talking about this last year, how there's that, And

1441
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 1: I ended up moving to stand and like did a

1442
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: hanging hunt there right in the edge and had foreman

1443
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: another one of the nice bucks um that I've been watching.

1444
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: He did come out. I could have shot him on

1445
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 1: the edge of that field. So this is a spot

1446
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 1: where I want to put a permanent set up. So

1447
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hang a stand there. I'm going to improve

1448
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 1: a stand Last year, there's another betting air that's on

1449
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 1: the property. I hunt that. UM. I hunted a couple

1450
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 1: of times last year during the rut, and that's where

1451
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: I passed that bucket called Fraser, and I passed for him,

1452
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 1: and a couple of times I passed a bunch like nice,

1453
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: like nice, like two or three year olds from Michigan.

1454
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 1: Um that Holyfield didn't seem to use a lot. I didn't.

1455
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: I never saw him there. I got pictures of him

1456
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: there a couple of times, but nothing like the other places. Um.

1457
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: But still I want to try to improve of this

1458
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: because it's a great bedding air. I do know Buck's

1459
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: crews through there, so as a kind of secondary place,

1460
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: I want to improve that tree stands set up, get

1461
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: better cover there. I'm gonna add another stand about a

1462
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 1: hundred yards north of there, on the other side of

1463
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: the bedding air, so I can hunt it with a

1464
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,840
Speaker 1: slightly different wind. Um. So it's all that kind of stuff.

1465
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: I want to fix. My scrape trees. I put in

1466
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:23,440
Speaker 1: those fake scrape trees in the food plots last year. Um.

1467
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: One of them I didn't bury deep enough. So part

1468
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: with through the season it started like spinning in the wind,

1469
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 1: or like it would be angled at like a forty

1470
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 1: degree angle instead of straight up. So I'm just gonna

1471
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: try to get those in more solid. I bought some

1472
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: forty gallon like yeah, and I'm gonna put in some

1473
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: water holes again, like one tiny thing that maybe we'll

1474
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: get him to come within range. I'm gonna put these

1475
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: water holes near a couple of my best stand sites

1476
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: for him, so they'll be they'll be the hopefully nice, secluded,

1477
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: tasty food plot. There's gonna be a scrape tree that

1478
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: maybe he'll want to come and sniff at that, maybe

1479
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: he'll stop at and give me a shot. There's gonna

1480
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: be a little water hole that maybe he'll stop at.

1481
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to have all these little things

1482
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: like I'm just stacking every time any type of thing

1483
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 1: I can. Um, did you happen to change I know

1484
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,799
Speaker 1: you change some of the locations of your food plots,

1485
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: but did you change any shapes of your food plots?

1486
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 1: So no, UM, one of them, I just I don't.

1487
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: It's it's planned a power line, so I don't have

1488
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 1: the ability to change it at all. And there's like

1489
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,640
Speaker 1: there's there's like low watery spots on either side, so

1490
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 1: literally just a little patch of high ground in the

1491
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 1: power line. UM, and I can't like cut trees or anything.

1492
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 1: So that is stuck there, but it's in a decent spot.

1493
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: It's been good. Um. The other one I can change

1494
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: a little bit. Um, and then that's the one where

1495
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm shifting it over forty yards and uh. And basically

1496
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 1: this food plot, I just posted a video actually kind

1497
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: of giving a tour of it. Basically, there's it was

1498
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: just like a short grassy field and then like four

1499
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: years ago I went in there and and carved out

1500
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,719
Speaker 1: a little food plot in there and then non planting

1501
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: the screen around it. But basically it's kind of looks

1502
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 1: like a bow tie. I guess imagine there's a bow tie,

1503
01:19:11,320 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: and in the middle of that bow tie, you know,

1504
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,959
Speaker 1: there's like that little circle in a bow tie. Um,

1505
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,599
Speaker 1: there's a single oak tree right there, and I've got

1506
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: a tree standing that single oak tree, and on one

1507
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: side of the bow tie. See, you know, it's kind

1508
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: of like a pie piece of pie. Um, there's one

1509
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: piece of pie that sticks out to the north of

1510
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 1: that oak and that is where I plant my strips

1511
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 1: of Brassica's and oats. And then the south portion of

1512
01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:40,840
Speaker 1: that bow tie is a perennial clover plot and these

1513
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 1: deer come out from the east and feed out into

1514
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 1: either one of those, and typically they feed out to

1515
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: the north of me. So I hunt it with a

1516
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: with a north wind or a northwest wind or something

1517
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: that blows my scent out back into this little finger

1518
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: timber that doesn't really get used by dear it's kind

1519
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: of open um. So that's that's kind of a setup

1520
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: that I've got right now. Any uh, actual food plot change,

1521
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 1: like what you're planning, No, I'm just I just flip

1522
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: flop where the oats are and the brassicas so that

1523
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm never planting the same thing in the in the

1524
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: same strip. Um. But basically it just it just works

1525
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: so well, Like they hit those oats earlier in the

1526
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: season really hard, and they nibble a little bit in

1527
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: the brassicas, and then by the time I get to

1528
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 1: late season, they're hitting the braska is really hard. So

1529
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: it gives me that full that full season attraction in

1530
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: the same place. Um. So I've just been really happy

1531
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,440
Speaker 1: with that and going to stick to that. So that, Um,

1532
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 1: that's kind of the game plan on the Michigan farm,

1533
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: just improving tree stands, setups, adding some of these more

1534
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: little habitat manipulations. UM. Access is kind of kind of

1535
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,720
Speaker 1: the same. I've got pretty good access. I just I

1536
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,639
Speaker 1: can't hunt a lot of these places in the mornings,

1537
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,840
Speaker 1: UM because I've got to go through fields of different

1538
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: things like that. I've I've carved some trails out through

1539
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,640
Speaker 1: like little fence rows, like the little cover I do

1540
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 1: have to go through. UM. It's not a deal, but

1541
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: it's the best I can get for like the rut UM.

1542
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: But that's why in October I pretty much stay out.

1543
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: And so that kind of comes to my hunting plan.

1544
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we'll talk about this more when we

1545
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,360
Speaker 1: get to UM, when we get closer to the season,

1546
01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,640
Speaker 1: but right now, at least, my tentative hunting plan is

1547
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 1: to try to basically to do what I said I

1548
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 1: was gonna do last year but I didn't UM, which

1549
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,839
Speaker 1: is hunting the first couple of nights of the season

1550
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 1: if conditions are good, and then stay out and not

1551
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: hunt it again until October whenever that weather hits. Because

1552
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: what's happened is and this is from looking at previously

1553
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: from my actual hunting sightings and trail cameras both years,

1554
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: he shows up on my farm in September, so he

1555
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 1: summers somewhere nearby, but not right there. In September, loses

1556
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: his velvet, he shows up on the farm. He's very

1557
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: active on trail camera, um, and he shows up a

1558
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: little bit, and he shows up in the daylight on

1559
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: these food plots and on trail camera in September and

1560
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: a little bit into early October, like I think, I, um,

1561
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: maybe not even October, like September. I saw him during

1562
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 1: daylight in two thousand fifteen, but once I started hunting there,

1563
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: I didn't get daylight pictures and I wasn't seeing him

1564
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: in the open. I saw him a couple of times,

1565
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: but it was back in the cover. UM. I didn't

1566
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: actually start seeing him during daylight and active on my

1567
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: side until October two and then two thousand and sixteen October.

1568
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,880
Speaker 1: But both of those days he came into the food

1569
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: plot and I could have shot him two years in

1570
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 1: a row one day apart um. And then from that

1571
01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 1: date on he was very active through the rut up

1572
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: until gun season. So it's like that was the time

1573
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,960
Speaker 1: frame when he started, you know, showing up. So this year,

1574
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 1: if I don't kill him the first night or two,

1575
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm just even if I get like a long range

1576
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: sighting or something off you know, in the cover, or

1577
01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 1: even if I get one daylight picture of him, um,

1578
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, if it's if it's like days and days

1579
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: of day the pictures or something really really compelling, then

1580
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'll go in there. But otherwise I think that

1581
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait and not touch that property at all.

1582
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not gonna check trail cameras, I'm not

1583
01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 1: gonna drive on it. I'm not gonna do anything from

1584
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: like October one or two until like the or whatever,

1585
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 1: and the first day the conditions are good, then I'm

1586
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna go in and then I'm gonna hunt him hard

1587
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: from that period until early November, because the last two

1588
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: years he was very active during that like ten to

1589
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: twelve day window. So so are you going to have

1590
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: a wireless camera out there to determine if he's even

1591
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: showing up or not, or you're gonna okay, so you're

1592
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna be able to basically you know, I

1593
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: have that intel saying okay, well he hasn't. It's it's uh,

1594
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, October one or whenever your opening day is

1595
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: he he he's showing up at midnight for three days

1596
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: in a row. You're are you gonna go out there

1597
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 1: and hunt him or are you gonna layout off until

1598
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 1: he starts showing sign of closer to daylight activity. So okay.

1599
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: So the other thing to throw in here is that

1600
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: I can get up on a hill and observe this

1601
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: front food plot from a distance, from a long distance,

1602
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: from a safe place where dear, I'm gonna get spooped

1603
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: by me, So I will have I think I'm gonna

1604
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: buy another wireless trail camera and stuck it up and

1605
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: pay for the fee. UM. I don't like it, but

1606
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: they're super handing this kind of situation. So I'm gonna

1607
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 1: try to have two wireless cameras out there, two different spots,

1608
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be monitoring those and then also for

1609
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: those days leading up to the season if I can

1610
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: do it, which I think it can. Um, for like

1611
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: the three days leading up to opening night, I'm going

1612
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: to be out on that hill watching this area and

1613
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,640
Speaker 1: trying to see if he comes out, and if he

1614
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: doesn't come out for the three days leading up to

1615
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: the season and there's not like some massive weather change

1616
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: that I think will make him come out, and I'm

1617
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,479
Speaker 1: not getting trail Cara, pictures of him close to daylight

1618
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: or something like that, then no, I'll scrap the early

1619
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 1: season hunt because I'm not gonna go in there if

1620
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: i don't think there's a chance. Um, But if I've

1621
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: got some pictures of him close to daylight, or if

1622
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: I see him once or twice in late September coming

1623
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: out to feed, are very close to it, then I'm

1624
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna strike and kill him early. Hopefully kill him early.

1625
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm cheering for you, man, Thank you, Thank you, buddy.

1626
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,720
Speaker 1: I I hope it works out, and you know what,

1627
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just trying to all I'm gonna I'm

1628
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: putting in a ton of work. I'm gonna put in

1629
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 1: a ton of works try to kill this dear. I

1630
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 1: really want to kill this dear. But I'm also at

1631
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: the same time setting my expectations, like I'm gonna do

1632
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 1: everything I can to succeed, but I'm also setting my

1633
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: expectations that it might not very well, probably won't happen,

1634
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: Like there's a good chance he's gonna get killed by

1635
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: someone else. There's a good chance something's gonna go wrong.

1636
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna be devastated if this doesn't work.

1637
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't want to like be miserable because

1638
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: someone else kills this dear. Um, Like, I'm gonna I'm

1639
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:58,839
Speaker 1: gonna be very bummed. It's gonna it's gonna be super bummer.

1640
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: But I'm still gonna enjoy this hunting season no matter

1641
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: what happens. And it's been like such an incredible learning

1642
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: experience past couple of years, um that even if it

1643
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: doesn't end the way I wanted to, it's still been

1644
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: like one of the coolest hunts of my life. Um,

1645
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: So I'm trying that maybe I'm gonna say this and

1646
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: then when it all actually happens, I'm gonna be a

1647
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: crankyeer old cuss and I'm not going to actually follow

1648
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: throughout all this. But but hopefully I'm trying to set

1649
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 1: myself up mentally so I'm not a nut job come

1650
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: October or November. That's I mean, it's it's almost one

1651
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: of those things where if you work really hard in

1652
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,200
Speaker 1: the off season, you don't even need to give yourself

1653
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: an expectation. You just need to follow continue following through

1654
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: with the plan you've already set, so you don't need

1655
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: to give yourself an expectation. What I mean by that

1656
01:26:49,360 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: is you you are You're just You're just following a

1657
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: plan at that point, and your plan is either going

1658
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:01,959
Speaker 1: to succeed or it's going to fail. And whatever happens,

1659
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: you know, is is not because of anything that you

1660
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 1: did or didn't do preseason. It's because he decided not

1661
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: to come out, or the wind shifted or whatever. It's

1662
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: not on you, it's on you know, a roll of

1663
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the dice at that point. Yeah, And there's and there's

1664
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,800
Speaker 1: so much out of my hands, right, I mean, that's

1665
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: that's hunting. It's it's our hands. But what I hope,

1666
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 1: what I want to have is I want to enter

1667
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: this season knowing, regardless of the outcome, that like I

1668
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: did that this year more than any other year, I've

1669
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 1: done everything I possibly can do to make this happen.

1670
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: Like I have, I have so many things going in

1671
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: my favor as compared to pass hunting season. I have

1672
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 1: so much information, I have so many encounters. I've got

1673
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 1: so many lessons learned to apply to this year. I

1674
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: don't want to not take advantage of that. So I

1675
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: hope that I can at least sit here at the

1676
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 1: end of the season next year this year and say,

1677
01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 1: dang it, it didn't go my way. But I feel

1678
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: comfortable the fact that I did everything I could. I

1679
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 1: put in all the work, I did all the things

1680
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: I said I should do, I followed through on it,

1681
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, it just didn't work out, or yeah, the

1682
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: neighbor shot him and it is what it is. But

1683
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,400
Speaker 1: at least I know like I did everything I could

1684
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: to try to set of that perfect hunt, and I

1685
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: think if I can do that, I'll still feel pretty

1686
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: pretty good because, um, like we're saying earlier, I mean,

1687
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,200
Speaker 1: seeing where I am today compared to where I was

1688
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,280
Speaker 1: ten years ago as a deer hunter, and the things

1689
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about the things I'm doing, Um, it's it's

1690
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: it's encouraging to me, like if I can pat myself

1691
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:38,280
Speaker 1: on my back, on my own back, like, um, I'm

1692
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: proud that I've that I've evolved and in doing these

1693
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: things now and I'm hoping I can fall through on that.

1694
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,080
Speaker 1: As I guess what I'm saying, you know, after all

1695
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 1: this conversation that we've just had, you're probably going to

1696
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: shoot him on the very first hunt of the entire season.

1697
01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: And I would be so happy, is hey, if I

1698
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: shoot that buck. I mean, that's that's amazing. And then

1699
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I still can hunt public land in Michigan. I have

1700
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: still got my spot in Ohio that has been kind

1701
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,200
Speaker 1: of on the backburner because I've been so focused on

1702
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Michigan lately. But that spot's great, ken Ken be great. Um,

1703
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: And I think I'm gonna apply for my Iowa tag

1704
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 1: now since I'm not going, assuming I'm not going to Alaska,

1705
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna apply for my Iowa tag. I'll probably

1706
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:26,200
Speaker 1: get that, and that's gonna be a whole another challenge

1707
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:28,400
Speaker 1: because I still have permission on that same place and

1708
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,320
Speaker 1: hunted two years ago. But and it was great, like

1709
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of nice deer, but I also

1710
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:36,719
Speaker 1: had like like two out of all every three hunts

1711
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,600
Speaker 1: was messed up by another hunter. So my goal this

1712
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:41,479
Speaker 1: year is how can I get away from that hunting

1713
01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: pressure or like deal with that hunting pressure better. Um,

1714
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: I've got some ideas there that I've been when I went,

1715
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 1: I went shed hunting there and I scouted some more

1716
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: and I figured some stuff out. So I feel good

1717
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 1: about a couple of little secret spots I might have found.

1718
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,760
Speaker 1: But unfortunately the honey Hoole I had their last time.

1719
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 1: The one spot I found last time that was away

1720
01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: from the Hunters. It looks like the Hunters found it

1721
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,559
Speaker 1: because there's like a bunch of tree stands all over it.

1722
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: So that'll be another challenge. And then uh, and then

1723
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the whole early season Western trip again.

1724
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do Montana and maybe hit North Dakota, Wyoming

1725
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 1: after that if I fill my Montana tag, so I

1726
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:21,799
Speaker 1: got a full slate, and uh, what happens. Yeah, I'm excited.

1727
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm just so pumped. Yeah, I'm pretty jacked for this

1728
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: season two. I uh, I don't know, I don't know.

1729
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I guess I'm excited, but I'm not like right now,

1730
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. I'm jacked off. I'm getting ready to

1731
01:30:38,720 --> 01:30:41,000
Speaker 1: put out trail cams and you know, velvet rut all

1732
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: that stuff. But it's not like up front as it

1733
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: has been in the past. It's it's kind of in

1734
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: the back burner still as far as my excitement levels

1735
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 1: the same, but I'm not thinking about it as much.

1736
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Is that because of like family

1737
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: stuff or just just other things life. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

1738
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 1: my life is on overdrive right now and just trying

1739
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: to keep up and you know, maintain and I don't know,

1740
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: to enjoy, enjoy these time, enjoy right now, you know,

1741
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:17,720
Speaker 1: and not you know, not not try to enjoy, you know,

1742
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 1: like I think a lot of a lot of times

1743
01:31:20,720 --> 01:31:23,480
Speaker 1: in the past, I've I've had one of these experiences

1744
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: where I put so much on the actual event of

1745
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 1: hunting that I don't enjoy everything else that is going on,

1746
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, whether that's checking trail cameras, putting out mineral,

1747
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: setting tree stands, all that stuff is fun, but you know,

1748
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 1: it should be in my eyes, I feel it should

1749
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 1: kind of be equal. It should there shouldn't be. And

1750
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,719
Speaker 1: then now that I have kids, and uh, they're awesome

1751
01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: to hang out with. Their assholes at times, but they're

1752
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: awesome to hang out. They're awesome to hang out with

1753
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: and enjoy the time that I have with them as well.

1754
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 1: And then when the new kid comes, I'm gonna you know,

1755
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: be busy that first month and well for the rest

1756
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: of my life actually. But but you know what I mean,

1757
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: like enjoy the moment and not put so not put

1758
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: such high expectations on one particular part of of the

1759
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 1: of the year. If that makes sense. It totally makes sense.

1760
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 1: It's like, we have to enjoy the process because that's

1761
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 1: that's one of the really cool things about you know,

1762
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 1: being a serious deer hunter, serious mature buck hunter, is

1763
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:23,600
Speaker 1: that there is stuff that we're doing all your I

1764
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: mean you and me literally come on this stupid podcast

1765
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 1: every week all darn year and talk about deer and

1766
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 1: there's something going on at that time of year related

1767
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: to deer. Like that's pretty darn cool. Um, So enjoy that.

1768
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 1: We got to enjoy the process. Enjoy the days when

1769
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna be out there sweating, hanging a tree stands um,

1770
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: because you know, like you said, it's it's all part

1771
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,800
Speaker 1: of it. And uh, to your point, I think every year,

1772
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm getting better. I'm I'm pretty sure I'm

1773
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: getting better with this. I'm getting better at not letting

1774
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,840
Speaker 1: my like mental state and enjoy enjoyment of hunting be

1775
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,560
Speaker 1: dictated by like, am I killing a deer? Did I

1776
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 1: kill a deer? Um? You know, it's it's enjoying the process.

1777
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 1: And last year for a while with holy Field, like

1778
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 1: from October for the first month and a half of

1779
01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 1: deer season, when I was chasing holy Field and like

1780
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: it just it was always just a little bit off

1781
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like I I found myself occasionally getting frustrated,

1782
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 1: like another night didn't kill Hi, another night didn't kill him,

1783
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 1: And I got a little bit too caught up in it. Um.

1784
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 1: And then gun season happened. And I don't even know

1785
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:31,400
Speaker 1: if I ever talked about this, but gun season happened,

1786
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: and you know, I thought we we talked about this part.

1787
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: I thought he got killed. I kind of started like

1788
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: giving up on the idea that he might be still around.

1789
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:41,640
Speaker 1: But then also at that same time, late November, my

1790
01:33:41,680 --> 01:33:45,040
Speaker 1: wife kind of gave me an intervention, um, and she

1791
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of like just kind of read me the riot

1792
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 1: act about how like I was not being present. Um.

1793
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: So I didn't travel as much to deer hunt last

1794
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 1: year during the season, Like I didn't go to Iowa

1795
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 1: or anything. I just I was hunting Michigan most of

1796
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,400
Speaker 1: the hunting season. And then I just hunted Ohio for

1797
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: like five days, and then I filled my tag in

1798
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,640
Speaker 1: Ohio and I was back. So I wasn't gone as

1799
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,560
Speaker 1: much as I have been like two years ago or

1800
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,679
Speaker 1: other years. So I was like, Kylie, I've been here

1801
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: like all the time. How can like, what's wrong. I've

1802
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 1: been hunting. I mean I've been here hunting this scheme

1803
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 1: about here, but she's like, yeah, you're you've been physically here,

1804
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 1: but like you're not like you're not mentally here, or

1805
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: you're not like you're not a part of this thing,

1806
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: like you're just kind of your bodies here, but you're

1807
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: constantly elsewhere thinking about the stuff where you're constantly doing

1808
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 1: these things. And that kind of like re grounded me

1809
01:34:29,120 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: a little bit, like I can't let this consume me.

1810
01:34:31,080 --> 01:34:34,879
Speaker 1: On um. It's a terrific activity, it's a great passion.

1811
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,400
Speaker 1: It is how I make my living too, so of

1812
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:37,920
Speaker 1: course it's gonna be a big part of my life.

1813
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, you've got to

1814
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 1: make sure that you're present for everything else mentally, emotionally,

1815
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: physically of course to um. And that was kind of

1816
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: a good reset for me at the end of the

1817
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 1: year or the end of November, and then from then

1818
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,880
Speaker 1: on and again this might have influenced my decision a

1819
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: little bit, how kind of kind of like it was like,

1820
01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, killing holy Field is not like going

1821
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: to make or break my life, Like if this hunt

1822
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,240
Speaker 1: doesn't go the way I want it to that's okay. UM,

1823
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: And I need to like pull back. I need to.

1824
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always adjusting the volume on my

1825
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:12,799
Speaker 1: hunting obsession or whatever, and it's it's always usually eleven,

1826
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: but sometimes, like I need to, sometimes you get to

1827
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,599
Speaker 1: turn it down to ten every once in a while.

1828
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:21,000
Speaker 1: Um or or maybe that's your expectations. Maybe that's how

1829
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: much time you spend in the woods. Maybe that's maybe

1830
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:28,360
Speaker 1: that's whatever. Um. But I think and I hope that

1831
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm in a place now this year where, yeah, I'm

1832
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 1: doing a ton, I'm gonna be spending a lot of

1833
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 1: time out there. I'm going to be very invested in it.

1834
01:35:35,880 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not going to forget

1835
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: the other really important things in my life. And um,

1836
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy it all, enjoy the process, Enjoy family

1837
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: and friends and everything else that life has to give

1838
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: and m and hunting fits in there a lot better

1839
01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: as as a as a compliment to all those things,

1840
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: not as like something that squashes everything else out right, right,

1841
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: It's a big I mean, it's a big part of

1842
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 1: who we are, but uh, it definitely has to take

1843
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: a backseat when it comes to like, for me, family,

1844
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 1: and my wife has to remind me every once in

1845
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:12,400
Speaker 1: a while, you know, you know, because I always pulled

1846
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 1: this this act when it's time to start hunting. And

1847
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:19,360
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I told you when we got married that, um,

1848
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:21,680
Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna be hunting and I'm gonna be

1849
01:36:21,720 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: doing this and you know, and she's like, well, uh,

1850
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 1: you have children now and you have other responsibilities outside

1851
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:33,000
Speaker 1: of you know, which I'll put it to you this way.

1852
01:36:33,120 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 1: If I wasn't doing the podcast on the nine Finger

1853
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: podcast or doing this podcast, I would get I would

1854
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: get less, dramatic, dramatically less hunting time than what I'm given.

1855
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:51,439
Speaker 1: Uh you know now, so um no podcast. No, Like

1856
01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:53,599
Speaker 1: I probably only get like a week, to be honest

1857
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:57,519
Speaker 1: with you, dude, Yeah, we maybe maybe too. But it's

1858
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,599
Speaker 1: like a bell curve. But when I was single, I

1859
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: was hunting a lot when I and that goes down

1860
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 1: when you get married a little bit, and then you

1861
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,519
Speaker 1: start having kids, and then like next year, in the

1862
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 1: year after, we'll probably be at an all time low.

1863
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 1: Then then as the kids start to grow up and

1864
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: they become independent and they need less supervision and and

1865
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: mom can do her thing without having to be you know,

1866
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: watch them twenty four hours a day. That's gonna go

1867
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:24,240
Speaker 1: all the way up back up again. So like when

1868
01:37:24,280 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: I'm in my mid forties, you know, fifties, I can

1869
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: start going and hunting again because my kids won't need

1870
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,800
Speaker 1: all that attention. There might be in some activities, but

1871
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:36,000
Speaker 1: I'll be able to dedicate a lot. I won't need

1872
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 1: to help out in the father realm as much. You know,

1873
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: I'll be able to be away a little more, right right.

1874
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: I just hope that I just hope that your wife

1875
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: this year will lets you hunt more than once between

1876
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 1: November four and January. I'm gonna I'm just not gonna

1877
01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: comment on any of that. I just think it's best.

1878
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, what happened? Yeah, I mean, have

1879
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: you ever thought about, like, um, like setting aside a

1880
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,840
Speaker 1: little fund, like take twenty bucks out every one of

1881
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: your paychecks for the whole year and have a little

1882
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,599
Speaker 1: babysitting fund that you save for like hunting season stuff,

1883
01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: so that hey, honey, I am gonna hunt, you know,

1884
01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:18,559
Speaker 1: like to day or like hunt I do a long

1885
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,719
Speaker 1: weekend this week and a long weekend that week or whatever,

1886
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: So you're gonna hunt throughout the season, But hey, I'm

1887
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: gonna pay for a babysitter one of those nights or

1888
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: full day for you because you need your time to honey, um,

1889
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, and have something like that that might help

1890
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: her so that she feels more comfortable with you going

1891
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: occasionally in doing this stuff. Absolutely, and uh, I'll be

1892
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 1: completely honest with you. Uh, some of the money that

1893
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, you make money from your you know, your partners.

1894
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: I make money from my partners on the podcast and whatnot,

1895
01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 1: and some of that money is going to go to

1896
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: a babysitter during the rut and they're gonna come to

1897
01:38:55,439 --> 01:39:00,040
Speaker 1: the house and they're gonna play father. I guess I

1898
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: guess this This all brings a bell for me. Now

1899
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: we you and me did talk about this. I can't

1900
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: remember you if it was just us personally or on

1901
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: the podcast, but yeah, I think that's a great, great idea,

1902
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:10,840
Speaker 1: and it's gonna I'm gonna pay him cash and I'm

1903
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: gonna make it an offer to where for two weeks

1904
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 1: instead of going to their part time job, they're gonna

1905
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 1: get paid cash with no taxes. It's gonna end up

1906
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 1: being more than they what they would get uh net

1907
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: from their other job, and I'm just gonna say, hey,

1908
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 1: show up, do some you know, do some laundry, help

1909
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,800
Speaker 1: feed my kids, rock my baby. Maybe let my wife

1910
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 1: step out away from the house for a little bit. Um.

1911
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 1: But it's gonna give Let give her a little freedom,

1912
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: and then I'll pay you. I'll pay you handsomely because

1913
01:39:40,040 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: like for a college kid man, cash is king. They

1914
01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: do anything for that. Yeah, I think it's a I

1915
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: think it's a good idea, UM, because I mean, you

1916
01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: don't want to put her in a tough spot. But

1917
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, you've got you have

1918
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:57,800
Speaker 1: your thing, and I feel like I feel like with um.

1919
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 1: You know, for example, with Kylie, my wife, and she

1920
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:02,680
Speaker 1: has a pretty good understanding. I'm very fortunately she's got

1921
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: a pretty good understanding of this, but she knows that

1922
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 1: this is a This is such an important thing in

1923
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: my life and a part of who I am. Like

1924
01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:12,439
Speaker 1: if I couldn't do this, and if I wasn't able

1925
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 1: to to to engage in these different things, I wouldn't

1926
01:40:16,040 --> 01:40:18,600
Speaker 1: be the husband and the person like she knows and

1927
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,840
Speaker 1: loves UM, and I wouldn't be a happy person. I

1928
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a fulfilled person. And I couldn't be a

1929
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 1: good husband or a good dad without this as part

1930
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: of my life too. Um, without some separate things, you know.

1931
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,920
Speaker 1: So there's like there's us time, and then there's there's

1932
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 1: mark time, and there's marked things and there's us things,

1933
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,800
Speaker 1: and um, you gotta have a balance between those two. Um.

1934
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that there will be a refiguring of

1935
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 1: those balance when there's kids in the equation too. But um,

1936
01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 1: it's it is a balance, that's fact, Jack. So well

1937
01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 1: we have I think last I checked in to to the

1938
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: hundred nine days or a hundred thirty days till opening

1939
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,559
Speaker 1: day of both season for you and Iowa and me

1940
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:03,519
Speaker 1: in Michigan. Yeah, so we just discussed a lot of

1941
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,800
Speaker 1: work we've got to do. I'm sure there's gonna be

1942
01:41:05,800 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot many more things are gonna come up in

1943
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: between and then. But let's do the work, Dan, and

1944
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 1: let's enjoy the process and it's have a good hunting season.

1945
01:41:16,600 --> 01:41:20,160
Speaker 1: You gotta grind, man, That's what you gotta grind. Yeah,

1946
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:22,720
Speaker 1: that's the truth. Especially you man, if you're doing all

1947
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: this this this year, you gotta grind it out. Bring

1948
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 1: some Bring some icy hot for your knees. Um icy hots.

1949
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:35,640
Speaker 1: Floating around the timber. Yeah, and get like the big

1950
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 1: like sling seats or whatever, like the old man tree stands,

1951
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,200
Speaker 1: so you can like lay back in the recliner. Um,

1952
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: do whatever it takes, Dan, whatever it takes. Okay, yeah, yeah, alright, man, Well,

1953
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I think this is a good place for us to

1954
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: wrap it up and uh any final thoughts before we go?

1955
01:41:56,080 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 1: Um no, man, I guess from a from a conservation standpoint.

1956
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Be sure too, you know you've mentioned this every once

1957
01:42:04,360 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 1: in a while. Uh, you know, sign up for sign

1958
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:10,960
Speaker 1: up for a conservation group, whether that's the the q

1959
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: d m A or it's the uh UM National Deer Alliance.

1960
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:19,639
Speaker 1: Make sure you guys are um being informed, uh getting

1961
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: educated on what it is that you actually love your passion.

1962
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 1: And I think that by doing so, you can be

1963
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:30,200
Speaker 1: an active member of of your passion and help, you know,

1964
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,920
Speaker 1: take part a little bit more than just saying I

1965
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: love deer hunting. I agree, we've got to give back

1966
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: and uh, man, there's there's always someone or something that's

1967
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: trying to take that opportunity away or damage the resource

1968
01:42:47,320 --> 01:42:51,560
Speaker 1: or the place and the landscape. And if if we

1969
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 1: don't stand up and protect these things in places no

1970
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:58,160
Speaker 1: one else will. Alright, buddy, Well this has been fun

1971
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 1: and uh let's shut this one down, all right, And

1972
01:43:01,560 --> 01:43:04,559
Speaker 1: a couple quick updates before we go though. First off,

1973
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, the holy Field film is now online,

1974
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 1: so please go check that out and if you like it,

1975
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 1: share it with some of your hunting buddies. You can

1976
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,000
Speaker 1: watch the film over at Wired two hunt dot com

1977
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,759
Speaker 1: or the wired to Hunt Facebook page or the Wired

1978
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: to Hunt YouTube channel. And speaking of YouTube, if you

1979
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 1: could be sure to subscribe to our YouTube channel because

1980
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting some new episodes of our weekly video blog

1981
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Speaker 1: start over there again too, so you want to check

1982
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:32,479
Speaker 1: those out. The film is called until next year holy Field,

1983
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: so if you can't find it online otherwise, you can

1984
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 1: at least search for that title somewhere. I also wanted

1985
01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:40,599
Speaker 1: to give another plug for all of you to connect

1986
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Speaker 1: with us via social media. By looking at the numbers,

1987
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Speaker 1: I know there are many of you listening to this

1988
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 1: episode that are not plugged in with us online through

1989
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Speaker 1: social yet, so we gotta change that. I think you're

1990
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:53,280
Speaker 1: missing out if you don't, so get over to Instagram

1991
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:56,479
Speaker 1: and follow me at wired to Hunt. You can search

1992
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,160
Speaker 1: for wired Hunt on Facebook and like us there, and

1993
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 1: you can follow us at Wired to Hunt on Twitter

1994
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: as well. That's gonna allow you to see photos and

1995
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,960
Speaker 1: blog posts and videos and more content related to the

1996
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: things we talked about here every week, so check us

1997
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Speaker 1: out there. And with that out of the way, I

1998
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Speaker 1: also want to give a big shout out to our

1999
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2000
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2001
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Speaker 1: of North America, Trophy Ridge, and hunt Terra Maps. These

2002
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Speaker 1: are some great companies that make products that I really

2003
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Speaker 1: enjoy and believe in, so check them out and finally,

2004
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 1: thank you all for listening. I hope you're as fired

2005
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,759
Speaker 1: up designing to get working this summer prepping for deer season,

2006
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Speaker 1: and I hope you'll stay Wired to Hunt