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Speaker 1: Hey, this is this is our own Welcome to the Philly.

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Speaker 2: Show, Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Saulsbery Todds. Like it's a

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Speaker 2: Philly show. It is Friday, June thirteenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 3: Guys, you look well.

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Speaker 1: I'm well, you are well.

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Speaker 4: Jim, Ruben and I are going to tee it up

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Speaker 4: later on.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you guys are playing golf.

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Speaker 2: We've got a very special show today. Very special show

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Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of a you guys were watching,

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Speaker 2: like sitcoms in the eighties and early nineties.

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Speaker 3: They would always have a very special elf.

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Speaker 5: You know that guy was hilarious.

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Speaker 3: A very special elf. We have a very special show today.

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Speaker 2: We've got Jesus Zardo joining us later as an interview

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Speaker 2: that we recorded about ten days ago, and we decided

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Speaker 2: to hold it because there were some issues.

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Speaker 5: But issues corrected.

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Speaker 3: Issues corrected, issues corrected. So let's let's talk.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that, and well, first let's say this.

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Speaker 2: The Phillies did not play on Thursday. They beat the

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Speaker 2: Cubs on Wednesday, seven to two.

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Speaker 3: They won the three.

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Speaker 2: Game series against the Cubs. It's their first series victory

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Speaker 2: since they took two or three from the Braves at

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Speaker 2: the end of May. So they that's their what they

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Speaker 2: lost three straight series before U before they beat the Cubs.

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Speaker 2: So pretty good bounce back for the Phillies. They desperately needed.

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Speaker 2: Bounce back for the Phillies. I would say, right, guys.

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Speaker 5: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, uh, for them to be able to, you know,

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Speaker 6: turn things on and uh and a bounce back the

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Speaker 6: when two out of three, it was really huge for them. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 6: there's it's it's it was big and uh the bats

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Speaker 6: came alive for a change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice.

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Speaker 1: It was nice.

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Speaker 2: But but we have hazeses Ozarto, as I mentioned as

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Speaker 2: a guest, and so let's start there. It's time for

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Speaker 2: the first pitch. First Pitch is powered by the Bett

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Speaker 2: Parks sports book and casino app guys jesus Lozardo on

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Speaker 2: Wednesday against the Cubs, five hits, one run, ten strikeouts

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Speaker 2: in six innings.

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Speaker 3: His previous two not so good.

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Speaker 2: He had allowed twenty runs in five and two thirds innings.

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Speaker 2: It was the first time in baseball history that my

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Speaker 2: colleague Paul Cassell could find that a starter had allowed

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Speaker 2: twenty or more runs in less than six innings and

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Speaker 2: consecutive starts, and so he appeared to be back to form.

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Speaker 3: Jim, you were there, you wrote something.

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Speaker 2: For all phl y dot com.

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Speaker 3: What were here? You talked to Hajesus.

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Speaker 5: It was it was very impressive.

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Speaker 4: No walks, no ones, ten punches, as they like to say,

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Speaker 4: as the kids say, the cool kids.

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Speaker 5: Uh, stuff was great.

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Speaker 4: But stuff was pretty good in the two games that

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Speaker 4: he got knocked around on Obviously, I thought the entire outing,

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Speaker 4: obviously they needed to win. It gave him a series victory.

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Speaker 4: It helped a really important picture get back on the

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Speaker 4: on the on the on the right track. And I

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Speaker 4: thought it was kind of a victory for for for

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Speaker 4: for haes Us Lozarro, for him for his perseverance, for

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Speaker 4: his character, for his toughness. I thought it was a

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Speaker 4: victory for his catcher, his battery mate. You know, your

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Speaker 4: catcher is your soulmate in the rotation. I thought it

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Speaker 4: was a victory for the pitching coach uh and his staff.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a victory for.

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Speaker 4: The manager who supported this kid, the front office who

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Speaker 4: acquired the kid. I thought it was a victory for

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Speaker 4: the analytics folks, their biomechanics, folks, their video folks, everybody

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Speaker 4: who dove in and tried to figure out why this

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Speaker 4: great season, eleven outstanding starts, why it fell off course?

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Speaker 4: And obviously they figured out something. You know, there was

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Speaker 4: ditched his sinker throw through predominantly four Steamers had a

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Speaker 4: great change up. But they fixed something and he delivered.

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Speaker 4: And after that game, you know, he had his confidence back.

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Speaker 4: He's a I think he's a terrific young man.

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Speaker 4: Struggles he had weren't just a couple of bad games,

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Speaker 4: really do a job on your psyche. But he got

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Speaker 4: I think he is mature beyond his twenty seven years.

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Speaker 4: I think this would have, you know, bruised a lot

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Speaker 4: and they both did something great on Wednesday. So hats

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Speaker 4: off to a lot of people, led by Jsus Wlizarro.

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Speaker 6: Well, said Jim, and I will say this, the one

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Speaker 6: thing that alarmed you as a evaluator of talent is

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Speaker 7: Make that change happen.

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Speaker 6: So it was obvious for me that he was tipping

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Speaker 7: There's a sophistication that's been.

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Speaker 6: Beyond belief these days on what video people can pick up,

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Speaker 6: what they can see. It was clear that the two

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Speaker 6: if not every pitch, then at least most of the pitches, and.

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Speaker 7: They teed off on them. That was rectified.

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Speaker 6: I saw very very drastic in some of the film

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Speaker 6: his change in his posture, the fact that he hit

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Speaker 7: Set point was, all those things, and that as a hitter.

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Speaker 6: I mean when I played for the Cleveland Indians at

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Speaker 6: the time in nineteen ninety four ninety five, nobody was

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Speaker 6: He could pick things out better than anybody. He wouldn't

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Speaker 7: So we used to get mad at him.

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Speaker 6: But the reality of it is that there's ways to

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I found some uh grab some images from

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Speaker 3: Is that belt high?

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Speaker 6: And probably he sets belt high is after he makes

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Speaker 7: Right, Okay, So there the on the left side of

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Speaker 3: The left on the left side of his hip. That's important.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So here this this image is not quite as clear,

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Speaker 3: And where do you see his hands? They are just,

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Speaker 2: Would you say letter high left?

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Speaker 5: I'll left, tighter to his body.

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Speaker 6: Left, left breast just under his left breast, and tighter

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Speaker 3: Yes, there we go. So now this is lazarro wind

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I didn't see as much here,

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Speaker 6: Closer to his face. There's more flexion in his left elbow.

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Speaker 6: The glove is almost touching him. It's obvious that somebody

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Speaker 6: was seeing his grips. Okay, first base coach, whether it

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Speaker 2: Okay, and here's the best one. And this is from

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Speaker 2: Pitching Ninja. If you haven't, If you guys don't are

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Speaker 2: is Pitching Ninja Rob Friedman and he got this great

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Speaker 2: side by side grab here.

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Speaker 3: Yep, this is this is Lizardo.

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Speaker 2: The image on the left is him throwing a change

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Speaker 6: The first, that's really really late. They probably had it

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Speaker 7: His glove, they already had his.

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Speaker 7: And that was a great shot.

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Speaker 6: As to as to how you know that that was

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Speaker 4: It's tough to relay quick, but that pitching ninja shot

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Speaker 4: was awesome. And you can see he's using a different glove.

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Speaker 4: He had a smaller black glove when he was getting

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Speaker 4: I would call it a gem.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, gem.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, you're talking about pitching against one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so maybe you know, rectifying how he was

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Speaker 2: totally dished a sinker on Wednesday. And for those people

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Speaker 3: That's only like the seventh time in.

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Speaker 2: His career he's pitched in the game where he hasn't

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Speaker 2: he totally totally ditched it. And I'm not sure the

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Speaker 5: You're missing bats, right.

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Speaker 2: So the Phillies play the Blue Jays this weekend of

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Speaker 2: People say that Delco's a lot and the right. We've

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Speaker 3: Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well. I want to ask you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, loving life definitely is the right way

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Speaker 9: So I want to go back to your childhood a

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Speaker 8: My grandpa was, I mean a diehard when when he

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Speaker 1: So I just happened to be born in Peru. But yeah,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, my dad worked from Motorola and so he left

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Speaker 1: Now, I think it's it's cool to be able.

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Speaker 1: But getting back into the community is something big for

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Speaker 2: And you're doing stuff here too, right, I mean you're

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Speaker 1: I think it's awesome. So I love, you know, giving

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Speaker 8: Know, kids are are the future of the country, so

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Speaker 8: you got to steer them the right way. But at

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Speaker 8: the same time, yeah, here I'm trying to We're doing

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Speaker 8: the strikeout initiative and continuing to try to find ways

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Speaker 8: to get back in the community. I've heard a lot

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Speaker 8: about Chopped the Children's Hospital Philadelphia. I would love to

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Speaker 8: go and get there and see what we could do.

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Speaker 8: My dad's a big He's a coach of the Challenger

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Speaker 8: League in Parkland.

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Speaker 1: He works with Anthony Rizzo's father. They're both coaches there.

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Speaker 8: And you know, so I'm a big, big part of

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Speaker 8: the Challenger League back home, and I would like to

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Speaker 8: do that here as well. So just trying to find

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Speaker 8: the time. You know, the season's a little tough, but

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Speaker 8: whenever I get a chance, I want to.

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Speaker 4: We saw your parents on TV after your first start

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Speaker 4: in Philadelphia and they were, I mean, you pitched great

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Speaker 4: that Now you always pitch great here. I mean, what's

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Speaker 4: this whole experience coming to Philadelphia been like for them?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 1: They love it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think that they really enjoy the atmosphere

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Speaker 8: and you know this is real, uh you know, real baseball.

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Speaker 8: Not a knock on anywhere else that I've been, but

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Speaker 8: you know, you could feel, like I said, the atmosphere,

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Speaker 8: the home the home field advantage.

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Speaker 1: Uh. You know, the buzz around the city going into

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Speaker 1: a game.

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Speaker 8: You just see the streets, you know, flooded with Phillies

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Speaker 8: gear and the stadiums, you know, packed, everyone's walking in.

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Speaker 1: So it's a good time.

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Speaker 8: They're having a great time, you know, making it out

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Speaker 8: to all my starts. They love coming and staying with

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Speaker 8: me and cooking me home cooked meals. So and I

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Speaker 8: don't complain about it.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the worst for you either.

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm all for it.

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Speaker 9: So I noticed that you're you seem like a pretty

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Speaker 9: emotional guy, and it and it to me from the

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Speaker 9: But it seems like the fan base sort of up

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Speaker 9: lifts you up and you get fired up to pitch.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I know you're pretty emotional, and I know

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Speaker 9: you want to do well.

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Speaker 7: I mean that sort of seems to be your personality.

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Speaker 1: Dude, the fan Does the fan base take you to

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Speaker 1: that next level here? I would say so, yeah. I

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Speaker 8: You know, in places where where there's not that many fans,

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Speaker 4: Now, hay sus I wanted to ask you one more.

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Speaker 4: It's Stoneman Douglas for folks out there who don't know,

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Speaker 4: is an incredible baseball program. Every year they're in the

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Speaker 8: And think I was planning on going to the University

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Speaker 8: of Miami, and I was pretty pretty dead set on

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Speaker 1: I was a pretty good student.

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Speaker 8: In high school, and I you know, college is a

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Speaker 8: big thing for my parents. My sister went to college.

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Speaker 8: My parents both went to college, So yeah, I was

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Speaker 8: I was pretty dead set on going to college. The

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Speaker 8: made a promise to my dad that, you know, I

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Speaker 8: need to get a college degree before I die.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna promise.

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Speaker 3: What are you going to get your degree in?

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Speaker 8: I tried finance when I was in rookie ball, but

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Speaker 8: micro macroeconomics wasn't my favorite.

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Speaker 1: So now I got to look for something else, maybe business, something.

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Speaker 1: But I told him I would do it, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for you. That's terrific.

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Speaker 3: That is awesome.

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Speaker 2: And you know, one of my favorite stories I've written

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Speaker 2: in a long time, Hazes. A couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: I was talking about just your preparation before a start,

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Speaker 2: and we were talking a lot about your superstitions and

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Speaker 2: for people that haven't did not read that story, like

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Speaker 2: you're very specific. And when you begin your prestart routine,

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Speaker 2: when you walk onto the field, when you make your

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Speaker 2: first throw onto the field, can you kind of talk

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Speaker 2: or you know, tell us a little bit about that,

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Speaker 2: why that started, how that started, and how it might

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Speaker 2: just help you mentally, like get prepared for a start

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Speaker 2: before big game.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. For me, just like I have a lot of

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Speaker 8: I'm a big numbers guy. I think you know, numbers

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Speaker 8: have meetings behind them, and you know, I would say,

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Speaker 8: you know, I'm pretty religious as well, so there's a

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Speaker 8: lot of times, you know, I'll just say, you know,

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Speaker 8: show me forty four if I'm on the right path,

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Speaker 8: and I'll randomly be driving to the field and I'll

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Speaker 8: see a forty four license plate, or I'll be rolling

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Speaker 8: out and I'll look on the ceiling and the fan

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Speaker 8: has you know, forty four on it. Just random things

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Speaker 8: like that that, you know, give me a little confidence

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Speaker 8: here and there, a little piece of mind. It almost,

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Speaker 8: you know, it almost assures me.

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Speaker 1: That today's my day.

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Speaker 8: And but if I don't see it, you know, it's

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Speaker 8: not like I hit the panic button and I'm you know.

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Speaker 1: It's the end of the world.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, for me, fours and eights have always been big.

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Speaker 8: So anytime I walk out to the field has to

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Speaker 8: add up to a four and eight, and the same

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Speaker 8: with the first throw of the day has to add

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Speaker 8: up to a four or in eight.

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Speaker 1: So me and Aj Puck.

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Speaker 8: Aj Puck, the reliever with the Diamondbacks, a real good

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Speaker 8: friend of mine, and he kind of feels the same way.

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Speaker 1: So we kind of developed that together. He's a reliever.

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Speaker 8: So it's a little bit tougher and I'm more superstitious

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Speaker 8: in my routine. But fours and eights have always been

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Speaker 8: been the thing.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, obviously you wear the glasses.

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Speaker 2: They're not prescription, right, you know that's that's kind of

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Speaker 2: a good luck thing as well. And your coffee order,

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Speaker 2: I love that too, you get it?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 3: A cold brew with almond milk at Starbucks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: And I and now nowadays I can't stand the taste

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Speaker 8: of it. It's just at this point I need to

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Speaker 8: drink it because I'm so supersticious.

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Speaker 5: Do they know you yet at the neighborhood Starbucks?

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Speaker 1: Not yet, but I'm sure by the end of the

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Speaker 1: season they will.

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Speaker 9: Hey, so I've actually I was super superstitious as well.

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Speaker 9: Do you ever try to test it in the minor

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Speaker 9: leagues or anything like that, like try to do something

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Speaker 9: different just so you know you're okay if things don't

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Speaker 9: work out.

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Speaker 1: Have you done that before? Yeah? I have. Well, this

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Speaker 1: year I did it with the glove.

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Speaker 8: I switched up my glove and normally, I you know,

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Speaker 8: I wear the same gamer all year, whether it's good

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Speaker 8: or bad, and this year I started to I tried

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Speaker 8: like little switches here and there. I actually had a

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Speaker 8: hot coffee one day. I forgot where we were, but

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Speaker 8: it was freezing and I was like, I can't have

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Speaker 8: cold grew and you might have been in Chicago and

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Speaker 8: I had a hot coffee and it went well, and

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Speaker 8: I was like, maybe you know, but I don't like

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Speaker 8: to mess with it too much, so I try to

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Speaker 8: limit my superstition.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know when I when I leave it.

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Speaker 3: That's right, I forgot it. You forgot you switched the

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Speaker 3: gloves up.

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Speaker 5: You were all.

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Speaker 2: You used to only have an all black glove right

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Speaker 2: now you've got like a cream colored one as well

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Speaker 2: that you mix in.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all.

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Speaker 9: I wanted to talk a little bit about Caleb Coffin

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Speaker 9: and how he's affected you so far and what al

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Speaker 9: important he's been to you. Obviously, you came up with

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Speaker 9: the new pitch during the course of the spring training,

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Speaker 9: broke it out, broke out that sweeper. Can you talk

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Speaker 9: a little bit about that overall development as that happened

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Speaker 9: as you built your relationship with Caleb.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Caleb has been awesome for me, and you know,

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Speaker 8: I think we bounced or we we balance each other

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Speaker 8: out pretty well because he's a good mix of like

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Speaker 8: old school, uh, you know, you have old school pitching

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Speaker 8: coaches who are all feel and you know how it

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Speaker 8: looks visually and reading the swing, and then you have

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Speaker 8: a little bit of new school pitching coaches as well,

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Speaker 8: who are very analytic driven. You know, the metrics, say this,

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Speaker 8: you know analytically, this is what we.

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Speaker 1: Should throw guys. So he's a perfect mix of both.

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Speaker 8: I think he does a good job of analyzing the

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Speaker 8: metrics and the numbers and all that and simplifying it

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Speaker 8: and knowing how to tell a player or a pitcher,

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Speaker 8: you know, what they what they need to hear, and

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Speaker 8: how it's going to help them. I think every guy's different.

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Speaker 8: Some guys might be a little more analytic driven, some

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Speaker 8: guys might be less. So I think he has the

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Speaker 8: perfect mix. And as well, he mixes that with reading

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Speaker 8: swings and visually how that looks. So I think that

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Speaker 8: that's the perfect balance in a pitching coach. And he

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Speaker 8: helped me a lot with the sweeper, Like we've been saying,

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Speaker 8: just he kind of put it in my head. I

664
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 8: went ahead and I started tinkering with it. I work

665
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 8: out down in West Palm Beach, and you know, so

666
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 8: we have some pitching coaches out there that they did

667
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 8: a great job with me.

668
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 1: They kind of showed me a grip. We just went

669
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: with it, and then you.

670
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 8: Know, progressively building that into because the new which is

671
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 8: a little different stress on the arm. So I was

672
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 8: working it progressively in the offseason, filled in Caleb Cotham,

673
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 8: Mark Lowie, our pitching guys here, and then when we

674
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 8: got to spring, you know, we kind of had to

675
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 8: take our lumps and bumps with how we were gonna

676
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 8: attack hitters, and we couldn't really We had to find

677
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 8: the right the right mesh, the right time, the right

678
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 8: places in the count to use it. And you know,

679
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 8: by the end of spring, I think we did a

680
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 8: really good job with nailing that down.

681
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: I was wondering for the for the listeners and the viewers,

682
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 4: could you give us a simple breakdown of the difference

683
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 4: between the slot a slider and a sweeper. I mean,

684
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 4: you you threw a backfoot slider.

685
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 5: I remember, uh.

686
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: I think it was Castianos in spring training when somebody

687
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 4: asked him, Hey, what do you think again, jose Hayesis Lozzardo,

688
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: He said, uh, it's great it's a great pitcher, and

689
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 4: that backfoot slideer I don't have to face it anymore.

690
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 5: But now it's a it's a sweeper.

691
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Just give us a little breakdown of the difference in

692
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 4: those two pitches.

693
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, I mean, basically, I've never had a pitch

694
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 8: that moved so much horizontally towards the right handed hitter.

695
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 8: Everything was always either very up and down or would

696
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 8: run away.

697
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: So now it just helps me. My slider is more

698
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: of a gyro slider.

699
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 8: They call it a bullet spin slider, so it spins

700
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 8: like a bullet and it kind of just drops visually

701
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 8: to me, The good ones have a little turn, but

702
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 8: if you look at it analytically, it's it doesn't move

703
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 8: at all.

704
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't.

705
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 8: It just stays dead straight, just goes down. So that's

706
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 8: I mean, those sliders are very effective, but for me,

707
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 8: I needed something that went into the right handed hitter

708
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 8: and kind of made them aware of stuff moving into them.

709
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: And then that's where the sweeper comes in. Where you

710
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: get that whether it's.

711
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 8: Seven or to ten or to thirteen inches of horizontal

712
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 8: movement inwards.

713
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: Do you have a ball with you? Could you show

714
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 3: us how you throw it?

715
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, this is my sweeper grip guys. A

716
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: lot of guys mess with the thumb.

717
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 8: For me, that was like the biggest thing, finding that

718
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 8: the thumb on the side would really help me and

719
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 8: just have more ball security. And then basically just think

720
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 8: of throwing a football and having that ball spin out

721
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 8: and then you want that side spin on it and

722
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 8: have it tumble away.

723
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: And then what about can you show us how is

724
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 2: this the slider different?

725
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 8: Then I guess, so the slider is right here, and

726
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 8: then basically you just throw it, stay behind it, and

727
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 8: then that ball you're gonna I'm gonna pronate it and

728
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 8: it just spins like that. So then that when it

729
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 8: spins like a bullet, it'll just drop as opposed to

730
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 8: the side spin.

731
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: So I remember in that first Grapefu League start you

732
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: threw the sweeper, and I remember you're saying like it's

733
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: let's I'm trying it. I don't even know if it's

734
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: going to be a real pitch or not. Were you

735
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: just kind of trying to lower expectations or were you

736
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: to legitimate, Like I don't I don't know if this

737
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: is going to be something I carry in the season,

738
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: Because now you look at it, and it's like you

739
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: throw it almost thirty percent of the time, so you know,

740
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: it's it's become like, really obviously a big part.

741
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 3: Of your success is here.

742
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, Now, I think I was just trying of lower expectations.

743
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 8: The second I threw it in the offseason, I knew

744
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 8: that this was going to be a weapon for me.

745
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 8: It just visually looked really well, metrically looked really well.

746
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 8: It was something that I didn't have confidence in the

747
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 8: early in spring, at least, I didn't have confidence in

748
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 8: the command of it. You know, now I'm able to

749
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 8: throw at both sides of the plate, you know, beneath

750
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 8: the zone as well, and early on it was just

751
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 8: kind of like grip it and rip it and just

752
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 8: you know, hope it moves.

753
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: But you know, in the in the years past, I've also.

754
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 8: Tried to add a cutter, I've tried to add a curveball,

755
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 8: and I come into spring with high expectations and I

756
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 8: ended up just banging the pitch completely and sticking with

757
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 8: what I had.

758
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: So this year is more of let's.

759
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 8: Just take it slow, let's see what we have, and

760
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 8: then you know, as it progressed, obviously became a weapon

761
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 8: for me.

762
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 4: So so the sweeper, I mean, this was not brought

763
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: up to you in clear Water. This you would trade

764
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: it to the Phillies and then you had conversations I

765
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: guess by phone or maybe video with Caleb, and at

766
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: that point he suggested to sweeper. I mean, it takes

767
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: some faith in a guy to buy in before even

768
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 4: really meeting him in person, doesn't it.

769
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

770
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 8: I mean, but also if you just look at the

771
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 8: track record, you know Zach has added sweeper. I think

772
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 8: he's added a couple of pitches and you know, yeah,

773
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 8: splitter and it's been it's been incredible. So I mean,

774
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 8: just the fact and also him just asking me. He

775
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 8: asked me, hey, have you ever thrown a sweeper?

776
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: I said no, and he just left it at that.

777
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: And I think it was the day I got traded.

778
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 8: I got home, I called him and he just left

779
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 8: it at that, And that kind of sparked my brain

780
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 8: into saying, you know, if he's asking me that question,

781
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 8: maybe you know he sees something the potential and the sweeper.

782
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 8: And then when I brought it back to him, like hey,

783
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 8: you know I've been working on the sweeper, he was

784
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 8: all for it.

785
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: And you know they loved how it looked.

786
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 8: But I think, like like I said earlier, Caleb does

787
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 8: a great job of he wants guys to mess around

788
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 8: and tinker a little bit, but he also wants to

789
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 8: simplify it as much as possible, and he kind of

790
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 8: leaves it in your court.

791
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 4: Where does JT fit into your success here in Philadelphia?

792
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 8: I mean extremely high, you know, not many guys. I

793
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 8: would say JT and march On both. March On takes

794
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 8: heavily after JT. And in the sense of he it

795
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 8: looks like, you know, he follows his every move in

796
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 8: a good way because JT is one of the hardest

797
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 8: workers I've ever seen in the weight room. On the field,

798
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 8: you see him every day you walk in early. He's

799
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 8: studying the hitters, doing going over his counter reports, and

800
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 8: you know, so it's not by chance that the pitching staff,

801
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 8: you know, does what it does. When you have guys

802
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 8: behind the plate that really know what they're doing, you know,

803
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 8: you have confidence. Every time JT puts a pitch down

804
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 8: for me, I have a confidence that he saw something

805
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 8: in the video, saw something in the numbers, see something

806
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 8: you know in the bat He's great at visually seeing

807
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 8: what you know, a hitter swing hitters take the way

808
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 8: they set up. I mean, he's just the full package back.

809
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: There, real smart, real tough, and you know he he

810
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: keeps a cool and.

811
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 8: Level head back there, especially a guy like me. You know,

812
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 8: I get adrenaline flowing and I just want to blow

813
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 8: people away sometimes, and he's more of, you know, the

814
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 8: level head of let's throw this, let's throw this. You know,

815
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 8: let's get this guy out, let's be smart about things.

816
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 8: So you know, I wouldn't be where I am today

817
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 8: without him.

818
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: For sure.

819
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 9: You've been in the big leagues sometime now, and you've

820
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 9: sort of bounced a little bit to different organizations. Where

821
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 9: was it for you when you finally felt like my

822
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 9: feet are firmly planted into the ground and I know

823
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 9: that I'm going to be a quality major league baseball player.

824
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 3: And what was that like to Because I.

825
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 9: Went through that moment at some point, I wasn't ever

826
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 9: a quality but I felt much more comfortable in my

827
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 9: own skin as a major league player.

828
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 7: And I was curious as to when it happened for you.

829
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 8: And how Yeah, for me, I would say twenty twenty

830
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 8: three with the Marlins was the year that you know,

831
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 8: I was I think my fifth year, parts of five

832
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 8: years in the big leagues.

833
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: You know, I was a little older.

834
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 8: Got more mature, and just understanding. You know, that year

835
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 8: I threw, I had a full season of health through

836
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 8: thirty two starts, i want to say, or thirty one starts,

837
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 8: understood what it took to be, you know, a full

838
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 8: season starting pitcher and how long that season really is.

839
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 8: But I felt like that was where I kind of

840
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 8: turned the point, you know, early in the year that

841
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 8: year that I felt like every time I went out there,

842
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 8: you know, I could give us a chance to win,

843
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 8: doesn't matter who's on the other side.

844
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: And you know, last.

845
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 8: Year was frustrating, but being an open day opening Day

846
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 8: started for the Marlins, it was just it was just

847
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 8: for me kind of gave me that confidence, even though

848
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 8: I got hurt at the end of last year going

849
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 8: into this year, just remembering, you know, you can't do it.

850
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 8: You know, you've been there before, you've done it, you know,

851
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 8: so it's nothing new. And so now just coming in here,

852
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 8: I had, like you said, I already felt like, you know,

853
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 8: I had to established myself somewhat, and then coming to

854
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 8: a team who had already faced me and knew what

855
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 8: I could do.

856
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like I had to to go out

857
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: and do more.

858
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: Jesus, talking a lot of your teammates, they say, oh, man, Jesus, man,

859
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: he he's a real competitor.

860
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: Man, this this dude competes. This dude.

861
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: I remember actually ask Kyle Schuber after a game and go,

862
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: you guys always say that, but what does that actually mean?

863
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: Like when you say a guy as a competitor and

864
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: he says, it's kind of like a vibe maybe or

865
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 2: just so you can just tell that he's going to

866
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 2: grind through it even if things are going right.

867
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm wondering, like before.

868
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: A game, during a game, or you guy that you know,

869
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 2: don't talk to me, like, guys wanna stay out of

870
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 2: my way? Can you have a conversation with teammates Like

871
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: is that part maybe what they're talking about or what

872
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: do you.

873
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: Think they mean when they say that.

874
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

875
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 8: I mean, I think one of the greatest compliments you

876
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 8: can ever get is, you know, being a competitor. I

877
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 8: always want to compete, you know, watching that Michael Jordan

878
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 8: documentary when he says I have a competition problem, Like

879
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 8: I really have a competition problem. I just love to

880
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 8: compete and whether it doesn't matter what we're doing. We

881
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 8: could be playing Domino's, playing horse basketball, it doesn't matter anything.

882
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 8: I always want to win. But I think you know,

883
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 8: before games if you ask, if you ask a lot

884
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 8: of the guys, some guys might give you mixed answers.

885
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 8: A lot of the Latin guys say that they can't

886
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 8: talk to me before I pitch because I'm pretty liked.

887
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 8: But I feel like, you know, I'm pretty easy going.

888
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 8: Guys can talk to me. I can have a conversation.

889
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 8: But like when it's a couple hours before the game

890
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 8: and I have my headphones on, like I'm I'm locked

891
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 8: in one hundred percent and I'm ready to go, and

892
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 8: I feel like I just turned it, Like I said,

893
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 8: I turned into someone else when I when I go

894
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 8: to pitch, and it's just a very competitive, always on

895
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 8: go and then the second that you know, Skip tells

896
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 8: me I'm done, then then it's over.

897
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: Then I am smiling again.

898
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 8: I'm messing around, But uh, there's not much messing around

899
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 8: going on on day games for me.

900
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: What are you listening to pregame to get you in

901
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: the zone?

902
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: Uh, it's a good mix. I got some Latin music

903
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: some uh someday, don't A lot of rap, A lot

904
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: of old school rap, uh New York like nineties, Uh,

905
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: mob deep like that type of stuff.

906
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 5: Nice.

907
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 9: Hey, So it's just kind of curious, just on the

908
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 9: sort of the lighter side. What other things do you

909
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 9: like to do off the field, I mean the many

910
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 9: hobbies your interests, or you're a golfer, your fisherman, what

911
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 9: do you what kind of stuff do you.

912
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 8: Do a little bit of everything. I like to I

913
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 8: like to fish a lot back home.

914
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a boat, but anytime I get invited

915
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: out on one, I'll be there. Able to afford plenty

916
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 1: of boats hopefully hopefully soon.

917
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, but a lot of lake fishing around my house.

918
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 8: Big big golfer leg going to the beach, anything really outdoors,

919
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 8: you know, back home in the winters, Florida's beautiful, so

920
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 8: we try to get out, whether it's the beach, paddleboarding, fishing, golf.

921
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 8: I like to hunt every once in a while if

922
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 8: I get invited for that. So I'm a little bit

923
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 8: of everything.

924
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 4: Hey, before we before we run out of time, I

925
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 4: wanted to tell you have a history with Andrew Painter

926
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: from the same area, worked out the same facility. Uh,

927
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 4: you spent some time obviously in spring training. Tell the

928
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 4: Phillies fans what they're gonna get from this kid, Probably

929
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 4: they're not too near a future.

930
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, Painters is awesome, you know. I I love messing

931
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 8: with him. He's an awesome kid, great kid, hard worker.

932
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 8: That's what kind of blows me away. He's he's very

933
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 8: mature for his age. He almost acts like, uh, you know,

934
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 8: I view him as as a peer of my own age.

935
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 8: I remember going and visiting, uh his high school coach

936
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,760
Speaker 8: at the time, and he was in high school, and

937
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 8: it just kind of blew me away. I'd always heard

938
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 8: a lot about him, he was way younger than me.

939
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 8: But yeah, the more I got to know him, you know,

940
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 8: a couple of seasons ago, we played a lot of

941
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 8: pickball together and uh so we got very competitive at

942
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 8: that and we were It's just great, great to see,

943
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 8: you know, that side of him outside of the baseball field,

944
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 8: because you know how good of a kid he is,

945
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 8: how hard he works. Uh, but when he when he

946
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 8: does turn it on, when he starts to play and

947
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 8: when he starts to pitch, you could see kind of

948
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 8: that mode going for him, and that's when you know

949
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 8: he wants to do the best. And I think that

950
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 8: that's what makes him so good is that, you know,

951
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 8: he's always striving to be great and uh, you know,

952
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 8: I think that.

953
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: That it's something that he can definitely achieve. So I'm

954
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: excited for him.

955
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,320
Speaker 4: Did he have kind of a legendary aura as a

956
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 4: high school kid?

957
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 8: Uh?

958
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

959
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 8: I mean you have a lot of good baseball players

960
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 8: coming out of South Florida, so there's a you know

961
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 8: that that joke of like a prospect a suspect, you

962
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 8: never know what they're gonna be. But I feel like

963
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 8: at an early age, you could tell.

964
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: That Painter was just going to be, you know, a stud.

965
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 8: You know, he had the build for it, but he

966
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 8: wasn't you know, extremely loud and cocky kid. He was

967
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 8: just kind of quiet under the radar, and he would

968
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 8: just he would just be really good.

969
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it was.

970
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 8: It's incredible to see. But yeah, we have we have

971
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 8: a lot of soft Florida guys on this team. It's

972
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,879
Speaker 8: actually it's actually pretty fun to be around you. Yeah,

973
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 8: me and Maxwell's are the day I actually blow out

974
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 8: my elbow in high school my senior year, he was

975
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 8: the starting pitcher on the other side.

976
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Really, wow, that's wild. Who's better at pick a ball?

977
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: Who wins me?

978
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: You could ask?

979
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, eyeball any stinks at it? But yeah, if you

980
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 8: ever talked to him about pick a ball, you.

981
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: Gotta ask him. You're left myself.

982
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 5: Yes, what's your rating? You got? You got you rated?

983
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.

984
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 8: My dad plays every day all day long. He's like

985
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 8: a four four and I don't know. So he's pretty good.

986
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I just go and try to keep up

987
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: with him. That's awesome.

988
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: And then one last one for me is are you're

989
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: a hockey fan as well?

990
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 9: Right?

991
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: Are you a Panthers fan?

992
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: Panthers fan?

993
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so Congratsia? Yeah, did you did you get on

994
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 2: uh Jordan's and Thomas?

995
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 5: I was.

996
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 8: I was talking a lot of a lot of smack

997
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 8: to Topper. I might have got on his nerve a

998
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 8: little bit, which was pretty funny. But yeah, me and Jordan,

999
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 8: I mean we were going out it left and right.

1000
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 8: I knew he was a big Toronto Leaf fan, so

1001
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 8: every every chance I got, I could chirp him.

1002
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 4: So the deciding game between the Leafs and the Panthers

1003
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: was on when you guys were on the plane and

1004
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 4: route to Denver.

1005
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 5: Were you able to watch that game?

1006
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, me and me and Jordan were sitting next to

1007
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: each other. I had the game on. I was cheering

1008
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: every time we scored. It was great.

1009
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 5: And then they absolutely blitzed Caroline.

1010
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 8: Yeah again, Yeah, thankfully, that's the fantastic. Hopefully they do

1011
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 8: the same as last year and they'd be Mike Jesus,

1012
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 8: but we'll see.

1013
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 4: He's but some of the Panthers, man, they are.

1014
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I love one thing I will say, But I

1015
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 8: mean I've been going to those games since I was thirteen.

1016
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 8: We used to park across the street and scout tickets

1017
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 8: for like seven bucks. In high school, they weren't great,

1018
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 8: so now seeing where they are now, but I just

1019
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 8: love seeing how gritty they are. It's something that honestly

1020
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 8: like fires me up and and and uh, you know,

1021
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 8: I love that side of hockey that we can I

1022
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 8: wish we could bring into baseball, how gritty they are

1023
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 8: and how in their in their face they are all

1024
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 8: the time. You know, they're always, you know, just trying

1025
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 8: to get under the skin of the other team. And

1026
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 8: I love that about them. I love Matthew Chuck. I'm

1027
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 8: a big fan of his.

1028
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: I like him too.

1029
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 4: He's he's a he's a good player all around and

1030
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 4: you'll get onto your skin. He's tough at his brother.

1031
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look what they did in the UH in

1032
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 4: the Four Nations. So yeah, well that it's gonna be

1033
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 4: a great final. I love the fun and Stanley Cupp

1034
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: as well.

1035
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: That's gonna be great.

1036
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1037
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,720
Speaker 2: Well, hazus, thanks a lot, like good luck to your panthers,

1038
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: and good.

1039
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: Luck to you for the rest of the season.

1040
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,839
Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun talking to you, so

1041
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: thanks so much for joining us.

1042
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: Man, it was great.

1043
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,560
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