Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. Today's Democrats are absolutely insane. These
Speaker 1: aren't your parents Democrats, These aren't your grandparents Democrats.
Speaker 2: They're crazy.
Speaker 1: So it's not a surprise that maybe some Democrats are saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I should be a Republican. The
Speaker 1: Democrat Party has left maybe high We'll talk to one
Speaker 1: of those individuals. Georgia State Representative Mesha mayn Are. She
Speaker 1: recently switched political parties. It made a ton of news headlines.
Speaker 1: You might have seen her on the news talking about it.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to talk to her. I want to
Speaker 1: find out why she left the Democrat Party, and even
Speaker 1: beyond that out I want to press her on some issues.
Speaker 1: Where does she stand on the issue of life, Where
Speaker 1: does she stand on some of these transgender issues, what
Speaker 1: does she believe? And why did she switch parties. We're
Speaker 1: going to talk to her coming up. Georgia State Representative
Speaker 1: Mesha man Are. Also, she represents a really interesting part
Speaker 1: of Georgia. It's incredibly liberal. She represents an area of
Speaker 1: the West side of Atlanta which is ninety percent Democratic,
Speaker 1: So what does this mean for her future political ambitions?
Speaker 1: All of that and more Stay with US. Representative it's
Speaker 1: great to have you on the show. You've made some
Speaker 1: headlines recently.
Speaker 3: I have, and I think it's good.
Speaker 4: It's waking Americans up, It's waking up a Democratic population
Speaker 4: that was once in hibernation, and so I think it's
Speaker 4: a good thing.
Speaker 1: You know, so you left the Democratic Party? What spurred that?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: Why make that decision.
Speaker 4: I've been in office for three years, and from the
Speaker 4: moment I walked in, it's been difficult working with many
Speaker 4: of the Democrat colleagues, mainly the legislation that I was
Speaker 4: bringing to the table to help my constituents in the
Speaker 4: communities I represent. They were trying to sabotage everything. It
Speaker 4: did not matter what it was. They wanted to sabotage
Speaker 4: every single thing that had my name on it. I
Speaker 4: grew thick skin and so that was fine. We came
Speaker 4: across this school choice vote back in March. I had
Speaker 4: a fellow colleague to put a thousand dollars check up
Speaker 4: online for anybody to run against me. Whether they cared
Speaker 4: about the community or not. We don't care. We just
Speaker 4: want anybody except Representative Manor. I was still fine with that.
Speaker 4: It wasn't until that was in March April. But June July,
Speaker 4: other colleagues just randomly out of the Blues started coming
Speaker 4: on my social media bashing me, and so it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: where is this coming from. I haven't seen you since March,
Speaker 4: and I did some self reflection, Misha. They're bashing you
Speaker 4: about policy issues, and if the issues I'm fighting for
Speaker 4: are not Democrat issues, then maybe I'm a part of
Speaker 4: the wrong party. And so I just started doing research
Speaker 4: from there.
Speaker 1: Why do you think school choice, if you look at polling,
Speaker 1: is something that really unites all Americans?
Speaker 2: Why do you think the left opposes it?
Speaker 4: I think they're opposing it because we have the person
Speaker 4: that's over you know, the teacher bureaucracy in Georgia. You know,
Speaker 4: definitely once a week, sometimes more than a week, she
Speaker 4: is blasting out.
Speaker 3: Video messages about her opinion.
Speaker 4: And her opinion includes we must get Nischa Maynor out
Speaker 4: of office because.
Speaker 3: She supports school choice.
Speaker 4: So she has made it very clear that the Democrats
Speaker 4: are not supposed to support school choice. So to answer
Speaker 4: your question, it's the teachers' union, and the teachers are
Speaker 4: not necessarily for what the teachers unions are saying. I
Speaker 4: had a teacher call me yesterday, not from my district,
Speaker 4: but a teacher in Warner Robbins. She said, I support you.
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to turn Republican. And I asked her,
Speaker 4: I said, what do you get from the teachers' union?
Speaker 4: She said that during COVID she needed to be online,
Speaker 4: and so the teachers Union was helpful because they were
Speaker 4: able to secure her a position online, But anything else,
Speaker 4: she doesn't see the importance of them.
Speaker 1: Well, why do you support school choice? Obviously it's something
Speaker 1: you're passionate about if it led you to switching political parties.
Speaker 4: I'm passionate about school choice because I am that student.
Speaker 4: I grew up in an underserved community. Granted my family
Speaker 4: had resources. The community kind of collapsed around my family's home,
Speaker 4: but so my mom shipped me off to go to
Speaker 4: school in another community where the schools were performing better.
Speaker 4: That is against the law these days. You can go
Speaker 4: to jail for that. And if ninety seven percent of
Speaker 4: kids in one school cannot read or perform simple math,
Speaker 4: can you blame the parents. I can't because I'm a
Speaker 4: product of school choice, if you will, and so I'm
Speaker 4: supporting it for every single kid that was just like me,
Speaker 4: that needs an opportunity.
Speaker 2: What led you in politics?
Speaker 4: I was led really by my spirit. Started off in
Speaker 4: a special election the council member died. It was a
Speaker 4: fleeting thought when my mom told me he died. I'm
Speaker 4: going to run for office. And it wasn't until a
Speaker 4: month or so later someone called me asking for my
Speaker 4: support for them as the special election candidate. So I
Speaker 4: did some research. How do you run for office? I
Speaker 4: was the last person to qualify. It was a packed race.
Speaker 4: I did very well for not being in politics, and
Speaker 4: people said, look, you should run again. We just didn't
Speaker 4: know anything about you, but you're You're the type of
Speaker 4: person we need. But that race went to court and
Speaker 4: anybody on the ballot was considered a litigant. And I
Speaker 4: took the opportunity to ask Fullton elections under oath, why
Speaker 4: are the lines for so long? You know, what are
Speaker 4: your processes? They had no processes, et cetera. On my
Speaker 4: spirit said Misha, this is why you ran for city council,
Speaker 4: because you're going to run for state office and you're
Speaker 4: going to change some laws. I won the race, and
Speaker 4: one of the very first bills that I introduced was
Speaker 4: about election management processes.
Speaker 2: What's been the reaction so far to switching parties.
Speaker 3: It has been overwhelmingly supportive.
Speaker 4: If there was a number greater than one hundred percent
Speaker 4: a percentage, I would say it's greater than one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Support for my Republican colleagues. But not just the colleagues
Speaker 4: I work within the Capitol, but across the state of Georgia.
Speaker 4: There's all so quite a large amount of Democrat voters
Speaker 4: from all over the state of Georgia saying they feel
Speaker 4: exactly like me. They are completely frustrated with the Democrat Party.
Speaker 4: I said, the Democrat Party has left me there saying
Speaker 4: the same thing. They no longer support the ideals of
Speaker 4: the Democrat Party. As far as my Democrat colleagues, some
Speaker 4: have reached out to say, I'm sorry that it came
Speaker 4: to this. They were treating you terrible. You didn't deserve that,
Speaker 4: so I get it. And then there were other colleagues
Speaker 4: that said, you know, there are a lot of people
Speaker 4: that agree with you. You're just the first one to
Speaker 4: have the guts to do something about it.
Speaker 1: What is today's Democrat Party? I guess how would you
Speaker 1: sum it up or how would you describe it?
Speaker 4: I would describe it as policy driven by the things
Speaker 4: that they fight for. So in the Capital, the things
Speaker 4: that they're fighting for are not economic.
Speaker 3: Opportun unities for marginalized people.
Speaker 4: They are not educational opportunities for children in underserved communities.
Speaker 4: It is not workforce development. Georgia has a workforce crisis.
Speaker 4: They're not supporting that. I had a bill that said
Speaker 4: if you buy something, you must give the person their
Speaker 4: change back. There was a personal example. I saw someone
Speaker 4: buying some milk for two dollars. He only had a
Speaker 4: five dollar bill and a family dollar, which is the
Speaker 4: grocery store in that community. The store would not give
Speaker 4: him his change back. He was forced to buy the
Speaker 4: milk for five dollars. The bill said, give people their change,
Speaker 4: whether it's a store credit or something. You can't just
Speaker 4: keep people's money. They didn't support that. So they're supporting
Speaker 4: things that are not kitchen table items.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, well, you know, but they purport to
Speaker 1: be the party for minorities, at least that's how they
Speaker 1: try to position themselves publicly.
Speaker 2: Is that the case?
Speaker 4: I think they may be for certain minorities, not all minorities.
Speaker 1: We've also seen the Left go in certain directions on
Speaker 1: a lot of these cultural issues. You know, on things
Speaker 1: like policing, they've tried to cut budgets and you know
Speaker 1: where they've sort of taken aim at police officers, and
Speaker 1: then you look at issues like transgender issues and things
Speaker 1: of that nature. I mean, on a lot of these
Speaker 1: cultural issues, they've seemed to be going off the deep end.
Speaker 1: How concerned are you about those issues? Do you think
Speaker 1: that's going to lead more people to switching parties or
Speaker 1: to taking another look at Republicans.
Speaker 4: That is why a lot of people are switching parties.
Speaker 4: You hit the nail on the head. Before I even
Speaker 4: got into office, I campaigned on public safety. I was
Speaker 4: my first year campaigning. It was during COVID, and that's
Speaker 4: when you know all of the defund the police jargon
Speaker 4: was out there. I said, then, I do not support defunding.
Speaker 4: The police are sometimes not even showing up in marginalized communities,
Speaker 4: so why on earth would I give them a reason
Speaker 4: to not show up. The first thing they will say
Speaker 4: is you cut my funding. So I didn't agree with it.
Speaker 4: Then I agreed with the school choice. I just I
Speaker 4: think they've lost the voice of people, and I think
Speaker 4: they've gone so far there's no turning back, because if
Speaker 4: they did, there's going to have to be some humility.
Speaker 4: No political party wants to be humble, so they can't say,
Speaker 4: you know, what we were wrong.
Speaker 3: They can, but I don't see them doing.
Speaker 2: That, you know.
Speaker 1: And there's also this effort in you know, Democrat states
Speaker 1: and Democrat areas to to not have it had been
Speaker 1: disclosed to parents if a child wants to change genders.
Speaker 1: You know, where do you think your district aligns with that?
Speaker 1: And where do you think most Americans are on that?
Speaker 4: The census, the US census. From the information received, I
Speaker 4: do believe they are going to They're trying to gather
Speaker 4: more information to see who exactly or how much much
Speaker 4: of the population identifies with LGBQT in any capacity. From
Speaker 4: my perspective, it is not a large percentage of the
Speaker 4: population in my district. I do have a large LGBQT community,
Speaker 4: which I support what they need. And so for that question,
Speaker 4: I'm going to say I support on a lot of things.
Speaker 4: I'm pro choice. I'll give you this example. I'm pro choice.
Speaker 4: I do not believe in abortions for myself or you know,
Speaker 4: life is life. But if someone chooses to do that,
Speaker 4: then that makes me pro choice. If people want to
Speaker 4: do whatever they want to do with their bodies, let
Speaker 4: them do that. But you can't force things on an
Speaker 4: entire population, especially if no one's asking to have these
Speaker 4: cultural issues being forced upon them with respect.
Speaker 1: Though, if life is life, then you know why support
Speaker 1: ending it.
Speaker 4: It really is a freedom choice. I don't support it.
Speaker 4: That's me as an individual. I don't want anyone coming
Speaker 4: in my household telling you what I can and can't do.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a little bit different when
Speaker 1: you're talking about human life.
Speaker 2: I mean I would agree, I would.
Speaker 1: I have to imagine you don't support the murder of
Speaker 1: an adult, so I don't see how it would be
Speaker 1: different for an innocent baby.
Speaker 3: I know it sounds terrible when you say it.
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, but everyone does not necessarily agree
Speaker 4: with me on that subject. And I represent sixty thousand people.
Speaker 4: I can't force if forty thousand of my constituents feel
Speaker 4: that they need to do this for specific reasons. As
Speaker 4: they're representative, you know I have to support their choice.
Speaker 4: It just like I support the right to bear arms,
Speaker 4: I support the right to a quality education. I support
Speaker 4: police safety or safe communities. That is just an area
Speaker 4: where I definitely would not be in office if I
Speaker 4: just came out and said I don't support it. And
Speaker 4: it's not even because that is I'm elected. It really is.
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone in my home telling me what
Speaker 4: to do if someone is and I don't mind getting
Speaker 4: into it. If someone is raped. I could see the
Speaker 4: psychological trauma that can go into that. I don't know
Speaker 4: what that looks like from raising a child from.
Speaker 3: A circumstance like that. I just don't know.
Speaker 4: For a child that is molested at twelve years old,
Speaker 4: I don't know what that looks like as far as
Speaker 4: can that person be a capable parent. It's a complicated issue.
Speaker 4: I think that's just another topic that requires several questions
Speaker 4: to dig through. My general answer to that, though, is
Speaker 4: I don't want anyone in my home and I'm going
Speaker 4: to have to respect that. Now say this, we have
Speaker 4: got to really promote safe sex. I think there are
Speaker 4: a lot HIV AIDS is at astronomical rates, especially in
Speaker 4: minority communities. I think that because people have lost their
Speaker 4: way so much, because Democrats are fighting for so many
Speaker 4: things that are not family oriented conservative values, people have
Speaker 4: lost their way and are having unprotected sex, and so
Speaker 4: you're ending up with situations where life happens. You know,
Speaker 4: when you have unprotected sex, you can get AIDS if
Speaker 4: you have unprotected sex. I'm speaking from a former CDC
Speaker 4: as a former CDC employee, So we need to make
Speaker 4: sure that we are discussing safe ways to have sex.
Speaker 4: If that's what you're going to do.
Speaker 2: No, I would agree with that.
Speaker 1: I just think if a human life is a human life,
Speaker 1: it's a human life and you can't end it otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, that would be murder.
Speaker 2: And then if you look.
Speaker 1: At raper incest or that's less than one percent of abortions.
Speaker 1: The vast, vast majority, almost all of abortions are elective.
Speaker 1: It's just someone not wanting to be a mother, so
Speaker 1: they then kill a child. And I see your point
Speaker 1: about your you know, the right to your to your
Speaker 1: own home, but I would I would assume if someone
Speaker 1: in your district molested a child in their home, they
Speaker 1: don't have that right. So I don't think a person
Speaker 1: has a right to end to human life. Deeply held
Speaker 1: belief of mine. So I'm just going to have to
Speaker 1: disagree with you on those points. What's your point of
Speaker 1: view on Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: I think that President Biden is losing support rapidly. I
Speaker 4: think that there is not another candidate that could potentially
Speaker 4: go against him as a Democrat that would be successful.
Speaker 4: We will see. There's still time for other people to
Speaker 4: jump in the race. The poll and I have seen
Speaker 4: with with Kennedy, he has not surpassed Biden. And right
Speaker 4: now Biden and Trump are neck and neck, and we'll see.
Speaker 4: You know, the Republican Party has twelve candidates. Still, anything
Speaker 4: can happen, you know, in politics, that is what everybody knows.
Speaker 4: Anything can happen at any moment. So it'll be an
Speaker 4: interesting ride. But I do think a lot of people
Speaker 4: are definitely not happy with any Democrat at this point.
Speaker 2: Do you see yourself voting for Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: I am with the Republican Party. I will not be
Speaker 3: voting for Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: Do you see yours self voting for Donald Trump?
Speaker 4: I see myself voting for the Republican nominee, whomever that
Speaker 4: will be, whoever it is, I'm going to vote for
Speaker 4: the Republican nominee. I'm not going to vote for a Democrat.
Speaker 1: What's been the response in your district? Because I know
Speaker 1: you represent the West side of Atlanta. It's ninety percent democratic.
Speaker 1: What do you think this means for future in politics?
Speaker 4: The response from my district has been overwhelmingly supportive. From
Speaker 4: the moment the news came out. People were texting me,
Speaker 4: calling me, emailing me saying they still support me. I've
Speaker 4: stepped up in the community and provided for them. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if there's an R or a D next
Speaker 4: to my name. From people all across the state of Georgia,
Speaker 4: there's been support, whether it's Republican or Democrat. I think
Speaker 4: we are at a political shift where people, especially since
Speaker 4: we're post COVID, people are more and tuned to what's
Speaker 4: going on, and people are not happy with As you said,
Speaker 4: this social political spectrum. People are really interested in the
Speaker 4: money in their pockets so they can provide for their families.
Speaker 2: Anything else you'd like to leave us with before we go.
Speaker 3: I need help.
Speaker 4: I am tackling an entire Democrat system, So I would
Speaker 4: love for people to go to my website at Nishamaynor
Speaker 4: dot com to support me and my initiatives to turn
Speaker 4: permanently my house district in the middle of the heart
Speaker 4: of Atlanta read and I can do it with help. Well.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you taking the time to join the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: That was State Representative Misha Maynor. Appreciate her taking the
Speaker 1: time to join the show. Appreciate you guys for listening
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Speaker 1: I also want to think John Cassio for putting the
Speaker 1: show together at a ways Until next time,