1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: This podcast is presented by Pacific Office Automation, proud partner 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals and your one stop shop for 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: optimizing all your office technology. Visit Pacific Office dot com. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: Problem solved? Is it Pat? Is it Pat? Oh? My goodness, 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: it's Pat DeAndre open? He caught it for dockdown. You've 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: got to be joking me. Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: by the Pacific Office Automation. Visit Pacific Office dot Com. 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Problem solved, tuck down Tyler Murray. That defender is in 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: multiple pieces? All that was nasty, right there? Rights the 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 1: latest news and notes from the guys who cover the teams. 11 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Rilled by Simmons. Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: Bring it on. Slam the ground by Fota Baker like 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: a torpedo. He came flying into the backfield. I scared 14 00:00:52,120 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: and nobody. Here's Paul Calvic. Remember how we started last week. Gentlemen, 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: when people say hey, how you doing? Are you doing? 16 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: They don't really mean it. They don't want it a real, 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: truth to life, detailed answer. They just want you to 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: nod and say great and keep going. Especially at six 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: and Ozo, there's no such thing as a champagne problem. 20 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: Even all right, Larry fitzjod, if you're listening right now, 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,279 Speaker 1: go ahead text me if you miss the champagne problems 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: from the media, because we'll certainly give them to you. 23 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: But you have see that's my new go to right now. 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: At six and oh, Paul Calvecier joined by Darren Urban 25 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Felipe A. Corral Jr. When people ask, hey, how's it going? 26 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Three words, no legitimate complaints. The operative word there is legitimate. 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: At six and oz, you're six and o on coin tosses, 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: there are no legitimate complaints. Although moments ago I got 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: real close when I noticed Darren Urban has some sort 30 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: of custom designer sock. And then, because it can always 31 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: get worse, it just did because then Felipe Corral Junior 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: just weighed in and showed me his custom socks. But 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: see he's got real custom so those are really his dog. 34 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: These are just off the rack with my tope top 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: hat and pipe on them. Those are like doctor Sue socks, 36 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: the top hat and the only thing missing there is 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: the cat in the hat. Well, and then what do 38 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you have? You have a dog, So my dog, I 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: have a Labrador that's what I'm saying. It's actually his 40 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: dog dad something more Lando would put together, quite frankly, 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: something I've been saying for more than twenty years. Okay, 42 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: that if you want to make a million dollars, the 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: quickest way to a million is off the backs in 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: the wallets of pet owners. Is that not further verified 45 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: by the fact that Felipe has custom socks of his labrador. 46 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: I gotta say time out here, Paul. You've been saying 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: for twenty years you can make a million dollars by 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: doing this, and you're sitting here with us every every 49 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: idea fairly certain you're not making a million dollars. No, 50 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying if you could, if I'd actually get off 51 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: my rear end and think of something innovative to fleece 52 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: pet owners, then I would make a million dollars by 53 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: the end of next week. When people are selling pet 54 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: owners custom socks with the likeness of their pet onness. 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: Does does this mean you're not a pet owner? Oh 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: my god, I have been in the past, I'm not 57 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: currently and I am I'm in the same pot. What 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: would you put on your stocks if you have some? 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: That's what it would be a car, wouldn't it sixty 60 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: seven Shelby? Yeah, sure, you know four twenty seven King 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: in the Road. Wolf say you had like six cars? No, No, 62 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I had the garage space. You know, 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: if I had a compound like Wolf, I would certainly 64 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: have six cars. But I don't have the space that 65 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Wolf has over there, you know. I mean, first of all, 66 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: I can't even get behind the gated community today is 67 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: silver Leaf where Wolf Lee lives. So I can't you know, 68 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: good luck with that, you know, I gotta say, guys 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: that it's uh we can say you talk about legitimate 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: gripes and like there are none, but go ahead for 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: all for all the bad things that COVID has brought us. 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean we're like literally now we have a couple 73 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: of walls and some uh some soundproof glass between us, 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: but we're literally just what fifteen feet away from an 75 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: actual NFL meeting going on right now, and the other 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: side of the door outside there's a Position group meeting. 77 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: You have a better angle flipe. They actually have a 78 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: digital board outdoors right now and they're they're holding a 79 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: meeting outdoors outdoors, And I don't really want to disclose it. No, you, 80 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: we're not disclosing anything, but but it is kind of 81 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: cool though, Like because of COVID, they they're outside and 82 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: like having a positional meeting and let's hopefully hopefully that 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: meets they're staying safe because do a headcount who's out 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: there and who isn't. That's honestly, all I saw when 85 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: I came in here through the sliver of the glass 86 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: that I could see was a pair of legs, and 87 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: they were definitely football player legs. But other than that, 88 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't really the legs of zach Ertz. Perhaps maybe would. 89 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't like about that is it gives me a 90 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: lot of twenty twenty vibes because remember last year when 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: we were in full basically into that does Yeah, because 92 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the fact that head coach missed this past game with 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: COVID didn't give you enough of those added to the list, 94 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: Daron just yet in another it's another example, right, flip a, 95 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 1: come on exactly, But it just gives me twenty twenty vibes. 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, you don't 97 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: necessarily want to see your players outside due to the weather. 98 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know whether, but yeah, that's true. You know, 99 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: I'll give you that. Do you think Baker Mayfield has 100 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: a right to complain. I'm just gonna throw this out there, 101 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: because you know, we like to say it can always 102 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: get worse. If you saw a good Morning football this 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: morning on NFL Network, I mean, you're Baker Mayfield. You 104 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: just lost to your former college teammate again. You got 105 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: sacked five times, you turn the ball over three times, 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: you got shut out in the second half, you got 107 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: sacked by J. J. Watt, and then your shoulder popped out. 108 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: You're writhing in pain on the wet grass right by 109 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the way. You have to play Thursday night. Whether you're 110 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: going to play or not, we'll see. But now you 111 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: have the postgame presser, because you're the starting franchise quarterback, 112 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: you have to answer the questions, and so you have 113 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: your arm in a sling, You have a white T 114 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: shirt on, and because ostensibly you want to cover up 115 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: the sling from the cameras, you throw on a sport 116 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: code and you get out there. You see his look. Yes, 117 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: it was disheveled at best, and it was definitely one 118 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: of guy of a guy that I know I've got 119 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: to be here, but I really don't right which you 120 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: could read on his face as well as as the outfit. 121 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,679 Speaker 1: But then on the NFL network, and I love the show, 122 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: I really do. I love the energy, I love the passion. 123 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: Good morning football. Yes, they take their football seriously without 124 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: taking themselves too seriously. It's everything I aspire to be exactly. 125 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: Yet they're debating his postgame attire with a graphic right 126 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: across the bottom that says Baker's postgame attire are we 127 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: in or are we out? Dude? Isn't going a little 128 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: too far at that point? Don't you think he has 129 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: a lot bigger problems to worry about then what he's 130 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: wearing to the postgame presser at that moment. Well, wasn't 131 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: his first response when somebody asked how he felt that, 132 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: I feel like starts with an S and we won't 133 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: say it. Yes, yes it was a four letter word. 134 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: And then later he took a shot at the NFL. 135 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: He worked in a shot at the NFL for a 136 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: seventeen game season that he's gonna have to play. I 137 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: mean I missed that part once again. That's a that 138 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: is a paid problem at this point, Baker. So that's 139 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: why that's where I don't necessarily feel bad for him 140 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: because now you're taking shots at the league and now 141 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: you have your own segment that has nothing to do 142 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: with football on one of the top shows of NFL 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: right where you can even at a national level, when 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: you hear people talk about the Cardinals, they always bring 145 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: in like, oh, well, Baker Mayfield was injured and they 146 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: didn't have this, and they didn't have this, And at 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: some point I stopped feeling bad for him. That's fair. 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: You sound like J. J. Watt and the sidelines. Oh yeah, 149 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: when the NFL Films microphones caught him and what was 150 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: he saying on the sidelines? He was didn't you say 151 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: something along the lines of like they find every reason 152 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: not to give us credit. You know this, this players 153 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: in ja, this team is not completely blah blah blah. 154 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: And how about we're just better than the other team, right, 155 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: and and that's that's fair. Which always it's always incredible 156 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: how NFL Films gets I mean, I feel like there's 157 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: times when we have some good mic stuff, stuff that 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: we aren't we don't get to use, and then NFL 159 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Films gets to put some of that stuff out there. 160 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: But uh, you know what, and I we've talked about 161 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: this before. Who gives a flying fig about power rankings? 162 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: I really really don't you know what this might be 163 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: the only legitimate complaint. See, I don't even care about 164 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: the power rankings itself. It's just this idea that this 165 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: team hasn't shown enough yet. I'm like, exactly what what 166 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: do you got to show? I mean, I don't I 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: don't know what else there would be. I'm not denying 168 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: that the Browns game was potentially a little bit easier 169 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: because of who the Browns were missing, But God knows 170 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: that it could have been easier for the Cardinals had 171 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: they had all their people, and they still found a way. 172 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I will say this, I was 173 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: on a roller coaster last week in terms of how 174 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: I thought that game was going to go, and the 175 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: way they played, and the way they performed without Cliff 176 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: Kingsbury and the way that defense was even with the 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: hail Mary mixed in. I mean, I am, I am 178 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: somebody who's one hundred percent in on this team right now, 179 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens with other injuries and certain 180 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: guys have to stay. Okay, It's funny I asked after 181 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: the game about where you guys ever kind of, you know, 182 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: mentally shaken because of the people getting lost, and Kyler's like, 183 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: it's funny. He goes. I was talking to the quarterbacks 184 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: and Cam Turner on Friday, saying it would suck if 185 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 1: one of us got COVID and then Cliff and Cam 186 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: got it, and I'm thinking to myself, look, I'm not 187 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: gonna lie, and this is a little bit about how 188 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the sausage is made. And I had to write a 189 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: spur of the moment. Missed my first segment on my 190 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: radio on the radio show that I'm on on Sunday 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: because I was having to write and post the Corey 192 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: Peters is out on So I missed the first segment. 193 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: But Saturday night in my room and nobody said anything. 194 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: This is just me trying to be prepared best I could. 195 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 1: I wrote a short story saying Kyler was going to 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: miss the game Sunday, just in case. I woke up 197 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: Sunday and some he said the quarterback tested positive and 198 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: I want to be ready. No he wasn't. He never 199 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: tested positive. Nobody said, be aware. I'm not trying to 200 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: throw out some rumor. This is me trying to prepare 201 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: and think ahead. Of what would be the biggest story 202 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning that could still happen that I would 203 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: want to be absolutely prepared for. And that was the one. 204 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Thank god it didn't happen, but it crossed my mind. 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: That's beyond button up. By the way, I'm more than 206 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: impressed already pictured Darren in his room knocking on wood, 207 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: because we all know he believes in in jinks, and 208 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I don't blame in jinks. I just believe him being 209 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: prepared for already. I can already picture you in your 210 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: hotel room just knocking on Well let's let's again, let's 211 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: let's not get into Darren in his hotel room. This well, 212 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: this is this is something we don't need to go. 213 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: Cam Turner spoken into existence apparently on that Friday. So 214 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, Darren, if if he would have gotten COVID Kyler, 215 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: now we would have blamed you, just to let you know. So, um, 216 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: you know it's not funny how you shared that story 217 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: after Kyler tested negative. So there's no blame whatsoever. We 218 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, but seriously, um, that really must a weight 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 1: on your mind. If you actually sat down and hammered 220 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: that out in your laptop, well, I mean again, that's 221 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: a big enough story that you would want that up 222 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: as soon as humanly possible, and you don't know how 223 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: this is going to come down. I didn't know if 224 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: if a player tested positive Sunday, if it was going 225 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: to be something that I was going to get a 226 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a heads up on, which fortunately I was. 227 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: It was only about five ten minutes. But I'm good 228 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: enough at what I do, pount myself on the back 229 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: that I can get something ready in that short amount 230 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: of time. But it was possible that I would have 231 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: found out with the rest of the world when something happened, 232 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: and if it was something like Kyler, I wanted to 233 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: have a story predicted. It's a little bit like and 234 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: this sounds a little gruesome, but this is life in writing. 235 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit like having the having the 236 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: oldbituary written ahead of time. You know, all these famous 237 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: people out there in the world, once they start getting 238 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: a little bit older, all the newspapers and all these 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: all the big media out let's already have obituaries written. 240 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: Probably not for you, Paul, but like that, I got 241 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 1: that going for me. But there are there are obituaries 242 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: written for a lot of people long before they pass away, 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: just in case they do that, you're ready to go. 244 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: Although you still miss the first segment of the radio 245 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: show Darren, so maybe you shouldn't pat yourself on the 246 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: back with both hands, you know, No, let's talk about 247 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: that later. You miss giving big props to Jim Mjundro 248 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: as well, because I thought he was going to freak 249 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: out a little bit more when I told him that 250 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: he did, so, thank you, Jim. I'm curious enough, do 251 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: you guys is that going to get go through your 252 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: guys's head? Like as soon as Cliff king very test 253 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: is positive positive and Kem turned to test positive, do 254 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: you guys start thinking about oh boy, kind of maybe maybe? Yeah, 255 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: it did go through my head. I at first when 256 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: you just said do you guys ever think about it? 257 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say about us dying, 258 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: which but but yeah, I when when the head coach 259 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks coach test positive Friday and height, absolutely, 260 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: the first thing I thought of is like, oh crap, 261 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: Kyler could very well happen. Hey Man's Joseph's said it 262 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: to the media. He was shocked. It wasn't worse. They're 263 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: one more COVID positives. Think of all the time these 264 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: guys are spending together behind the scenes, in close quarters. 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: They're all vaccinated. But obviously these are all breakthrough cases. 266 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: So how did you feel, Paul climbing on that charter 267 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: flight Saturday. You know, you're not a big germ guy, 268 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: So normally I feel okay. Now when my seat assignment 269 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: was that much closer to on Wolfully, normally on the 270 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: way out there's a seat between us. But because I 271 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: had to sit next to Wolf, and the seat on 272 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: the aisle then was taken and so forth. Yeah, I 273 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: got a little nervous at that point, and I thought, um, 274 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I go up and ask their different 275 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: seat assignment. But at that point I didn't want to 276 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: be a you know, more of a problem than you know. 277 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: At that point, they just asked me to leave the 278 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: charter if I come up with any sort of that's right, 279 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: any sort of high maintenance you know. Um. By the way, 280 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: and these power rankings, it does depend on which power 281 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: ranking you're looking at. Yep NFL dot com Cardinals are 282 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: back in the number one spot, and it reads here's 283 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a short clip from there's some Murray and I quote 284 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals are six and oh for the first time since 285 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four is shown they can beat their opponents 286 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: in numerous ways. None of this feels like a fluke 287 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: end quote. I think we're all anybody who was watched 288 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: every snap of Arizona Cardinals football twenty twenty one, like 289 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: we all have, you have to agree with that. Yes, 290 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can beat opponents in different ways. You can't 291 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: come in and take away Kyler's legs or take away 292 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: d Hop with double and triple coverage and beat this 293 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: team like a year ago. You can't do it. And 294 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: then number two, none of this feels like a fluke. Hello, 295 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: they have four road wins among their six wins, three 296 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: of them against marquee teams with Super Bowl aspirations, and 297 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: they've been dominant. They easily could have been worse than 298 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: twelve plus point wins. All of them were, if not worse, 299 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: on the road. Agree with that. I mean the body 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: of work, how it's turned out. You know. Unfortunately we 301 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: are only or us in a year removed from the 302 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: Steelers being eleven and oh and falling apart. And I 303 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: don't know if this has anything to do with anything, 304 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: but I mean that team was built and they had 305 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: no running game, which is not true of the Cardinals. 306 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: And it had a quarterback who was older and had 307 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: a chance to break down. And you know, if Kyler 308 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: gets hurt, he gets hurt. But that's like true with 309 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: any team. Asked the Seahawks right now, how the season 310 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: changes when your quarterback gets hurt. But I mean, Kyler's 311 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: not going to break down because he's old, and I 312 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: agree with that. I think there are two reasons why 313 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: there are still non believers in the power poll haters. 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Number one, it's of the Cardinals doing It's the reality 315 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: of what happened last year. Yeah, that's fair. They started 316 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: six and three and then they flamed out. So you 317 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: know what, people have been burned. Maybe there were believers 318 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: in bandwagon jumpers a year ago and then boom, that 319 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: hand got a little too close to the flame. And 320 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: this year they're putting on the oven mitt and they're 321 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: staying away because they got burned a year ago. Agreed, 322 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: of course. But see I always go back to Week one, 323 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: and I think Week four and then yes, last week's 324 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: or Sundays win because you saw the Titans beat the Bills. 325 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: If there's a team that was in front of the 326 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals and most power rankings, it was the Bills. So 327 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: the Titans beat the Bills. You go on the road, 328 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: you dominate the Titans. Then you beat the Rams, and 329 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: you see, you know how they've fared since that loss. 330 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: You see how the Bucks have been playing, and the 331 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Rams beat the Bucks. And I just don't care why 332 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: people are so reluctant to just giving them credit. I 333 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: mean there's that saying give credit, where to do it? 334 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I truly don't understand it, because even last year, if 335 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: you want to make that case, if you want to 336 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: put put on the oven mitt, I mean, the Cardinals 337 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: didn't start six and all last year. I mean they 338 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: started at four and two, or they started two and two, 339 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: and even then people weren't necessarily talking about them, So 340 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: I get the true it was a roll across the 341 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: rod last year. They didn't go straight up out of 342 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: the gates. And just I just don't care why people 343 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: don't look at the numbers, they don't look at the games. 344 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: I know a lot of these X players that are 345 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: now analysts go back and watch film, like I truly 346 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: don't get it, because they've been so dominant. You already 347 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: mentioned that you can't necessarily, you know, just take away 348 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and you're gonna beat the Errors and the Cardinals. 349 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: You can't take away the Kylimer's legs and you're gonna 350 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: beat the Cardinals. There's so many ways that they've been 351 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: winning in There's so many analysts at the national level 352 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: that we're ex players, and I just I'm trying to 353 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: see what they don't see. Okay, I'll try and answer that. 354 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Do you do March Madness? Sleep Agin said, Okay, Darren, 355 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: this is for you as well, because you're a big 356 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: basketball guy. It's amazing. Darren just put down his phone 357 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: because I mentioned basketball. He's no, He's now got I've 358 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: never got one hundred percent undivided attention. It's sort of 359 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: like my fourteen year old at home. I promise you. 360 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: When I pick up my phone, I'm typing in our 361 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: subjects so I can write up our little description of 362 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: the podcast. Right. So, here's my theory. The Cardinals right 363 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: now are so like that mid major. When it comes 364 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: to selection Sunday during March Madness, they're gonna get a 365 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: high seed. There are a lot of people nobody wants 366 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: to play them. But when it comes to discussion on 367 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: the big network TV shows. It all revolves around Duke, 368 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: North Carolina, Kentucky, the blue bloods, right the provens, the 369 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,879 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers, the Super Bowl champions who are in 370 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 1: the NFC with Tom Brady, the go the Aaron Rodgers 371 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: and Green Bay Packers of the world who right around 372 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: the corner will get to them, you know. And then 373 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: there's the big market teams, the La Rams and Sean 374 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: McVay and his Energizer Bunny commercial. Oh no, it's the 375 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: super commercials. Whatever it is, it's the same. It's so 376 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 1: like Energizer Bunny meets super Commercial. And and you have 377 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys who are this big black hole of 378 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: media attention. They just suck all this media attention away 379 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: from the Cardinals. So it's those four teams that I think, combined, 380 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: not only are creating this vacuum of media attention away 381 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: from the Arizona Cardinals, Bud, they have some proven blue 382 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: blood winners like the Duke's North Carolinas and Kentucky's that 383 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: people are more apt to get on with once they 384 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: fill out their bracket sheets. Over here, right, I thought 385 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: though that you'd have a little Kyler Steph Curry bounce 386 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: from from the quarterback. In terms of how people would 387 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: want to talk about him, I thought some of that 388 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: would change a little bit with Kyler Murray. You got 389 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: you got some star power on this team with JJ 390 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: Watt and Hop and Kyler and um. But if people 391 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: are gonna put their harder money down on Davidson, yeah, yeah, 392 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: that's fair. Look, I honestly, I don't really care. And 393 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: in some ways it it's it's funny my kids. My 394 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: kids have always cared about that stuff. They hate it 395 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: when they turn on national stuff and the teams that 396 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: they follow, which are the local teams, are playing well 397 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: and don't get a lot of run. They can't stand that. Um, 398 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: I just don't care. And in some ways, the way 399 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: this team is built, it's probably to their advantage because 400 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,360 Speaker 1: the less media attention they get, the more orner they 401 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: probably think about it. And to less media attention means 402 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: less media attention. You can say you're not paying attention 403 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: to this if you're a player, but if everybody starts 404 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: patting you in the back and saying, oh, you're absolutely 405 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: the best team in the league, then how do you 406 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: not start thinking that at least a little bit. And 407 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: let's face it, guys, they're they're not getting as much 408 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: attentions as if the Buccaneers were undefeated perhaps, or the 409 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: Cowboys were undefeated, perhaps, but it's not like they're getting 410 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: no attention. And they're gonna be, you know, barring something crazy, 411 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna be seven and o going into a nationally 412 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: televised Thursday night game against a one or two lost 413 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: Packers team, probably a one loss team. They're gonna get 414 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: plenty of attention next week after this Texans game, assuming 415 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: they win this game. I'm gonna read the summary from 416 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: the SI Power rankings, Darren, tell your kids not to 417 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: go to the sipower. SI Power rankings are a little bit. 418 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: Cardinals are number seven. Did I see that? Right? Their 419 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: number seven behind all the teams I just mentioned, plus 420 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: the Bills. And anyway, here's here's the right up. Tell 421 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: me when they're wrong. I'm gonna quote it. You have 422 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: to feel great about the defense talking about the Cardinals 423 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: as well as the individual play at Kyler Marie and 424 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. What's worrisome, they write in SI is an 425 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: offensive system that requires the quarterback to maintain an MVP 426 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: level over seventeen games. Okay, I'll stop it right there. 427 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: We didn't see Kyler played an MVP level against the 428 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: forty nine ers, and they found a way to win 429 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: those numerous ways to win that we said earlier. Okay, 430 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: we can back up real quick. Sure, give me an 431 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 1: offense that isn't requiring the quarterback to play at a 432 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: high level. If Tom Brady doesn't play at a m 433 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: VP level, or the Buccaneers any good, no, if Aaron 434 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 1: Rodgers doesn't play at an MVP level, are the Packers 435 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl? I almost said a really 436 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: bad word there. Oh, what do we say last week 437 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: about the Seahawks? Russell Wilson has heard get a lost 438 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: Sunday night football football? So I can interrupt, but I 439 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: had I had a right Okay, So felipe, here's how 440 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: they continue. They've been great. So see, there's always this 441 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 1: sort of kind of backhanded compliment and then here comes 442 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: the reality check, at least from SI. But they've also 443 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: been fortunate along the way. The Cardinals are converting a 444 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: lot of third and very longs while also stopping opponents 445 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: on fourth downs at an unsustainable rate. Ten or fourteen 446 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: so far, they've stopped, and in the last two games 447 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: they stopped him seven out of nine combined. When the 448 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: opponent keeps going for it on fourth down. They cite 449 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: that the league average usually hovers around fifty percent to 450 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: cal order guard right this by the way, because there's 451 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: a lot of these coming back to the means and 452 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: some of that, you know, and so they say the 453 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: Cardinals are such an outlier in some of these categories 454 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: so far that they're inevitably going to regress to the meeting. Well, 455 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I will say this, when I read those parts and 456 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: the fourth down, the numbers say they aren't going to 457 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: continue to stop fourth downs at that rate, So I 458 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: am kind of interested to see where that goes. But 459 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: for fourth downs, a lot of times it only takes 460 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: one or two stops to really change a game. So 461 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,479 Speaker 1: even if they come back a little bit, we'll see 462 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: the third and lungs. They have converted a lot of 463 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: third and lungs. But although I will say some of 464 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: those third lungs are converting are in the red zone 465 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: where they were gonna get three points anyways, and they 466 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: just happen to be converting to touchdowns. But is that 467 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: partially because your quarterback is so good. I think that's 468 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: part Yes, I will say this too, and I don't 469 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: know if it was mentioned. The fumbles are kind of 470 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: crazy right now, that fumbles. And here's the number. It 471 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 1: says the Arizona Cardinals have recovered eighteen of twenty three fumbles. 472 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: That's the expected fumble recovery rate for any team is 473 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 1: fifty percent. Yeah, however, a lot of those flumbles leased 474 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: in this last game, in particular, we're dropped snaps. Yeah, 475 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: so it's right there in his lap to pick up. 476 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: And that's true, but but you get you every time 477 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: you put the ball on the ground, there's that chance. 478 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: That is kind of a nutball number because fumbles are 479 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: always crazy. It's like anytime you evaluate a defense at 480 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: the end of the year and they have a lot 481 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: of fumble recoveries from the other team, you can only 482 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: give them so much credit. You can give them credit 483 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: for causing the fumbles, but for recovering them. It's so 484 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: much dumb A lot Kyler is not Daniel Jones. Daniel 485 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: Jones is, you know, fumbling these things away because he's 486 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: getting stripped, sacked from behind and he has no football awareness. 487 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a chronic problem. But wouldn't you 488 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: guys say that the reasons that they lay out are 489 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: the reasons why they should be at number one. I 490 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: mean they mentioned Kylin Murray's play, which he's been playing 491 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: at an MVP level, right, yep. They mentioned this defense 492 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: which again credits event jos of jj Watt and that 493 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: entire secondary that you know, heading into the season had 494 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: a lot of questions. You mentioned all these conversions on 495 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 1: third down, like, aren't those all reasons why you should 496 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: be number one? I mean, that's it's Have you guys 497 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: ever seen a movie Minority Report with Tom Cruise? Probably 498 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: my sleep deparation years probably wiped on my memory. Okay, 499 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: so quick synopsis Minority Report. In the future, they have 500 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: this system with these empaths where they can basically arrest 501 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: people they know are going to commit a crime. That's right, Okay, 502 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: this one. They anticipate the crime, the crime has not 503 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: had yet happened. So it brings in that that ethical thing. 504 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Can you arrest somebody who when they haven't even done anything, 505 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: even though you know they're going to do it. I 506 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: feel like Sports Illustrated is Minority Reporting the Cardinals. They're 507 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: saying all these things are going to revert to the means. 508 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: So we're going to rank them lower now because we 509 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: know this is going to happen. Well, that's whui, I mean, 510 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: come on, you can't do that. Look, Bill Parcels, you 511 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: are what your records say. You are absolutely right. When 512 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Kyler converts to DeAndre Hopkins on third and nineteen, as 513 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: he did in that game, not only was that impressive, 514 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: he did it through a fierce, biting wind that was 515 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: swirling on that field. The expert teas and the acumen 516 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: of Kyler Murray, I want to run into Kyler and 517 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: ask him how the heck do were you so accurate 518 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: in that wind? It was unbelievable. I talked to Matt Prader. 519 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: He said, on the first field goal attempt, he literally 520 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: aimed at the right upright, knowing it was gonna just 521 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: go sheer left, and it did. Halfway up. It just 522 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: took off hard left and went through. It's like a 523 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: video game. You know. It's crazy the ability and the 524 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: experience and the acumended execute some of this stuff, and 525 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: they're not getting full credit from it, obviously from SI. 526 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: They go on to speaking of kicking, they say they're 527 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: the only team in football to have opposing kickers missed 528 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: three attempts inside fifty yards. Man, this guy did his 529 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: homework to try and find stuff wrong with the Cardinals, 530 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: one of two teams to have opposing kickers miss four pats. 531 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: I will say this about the guy. If you read 532 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: the intro to the whole thing, Yeah, he has a 533 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: line in there. It says basically he shouldn't pay attention 534 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: to this so anyway, so I'm just giving him. We'll 535 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: give him that. I read this in the intrigue. To me, 536 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: is trying to get a reality check? You know, are 537 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: we smelling ourselves? In the words of DJ Humphrey, He's 538 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: a year ago and what happened. So I'm trying to say, Okay, 539 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: what we're looking at is this real? Is this indeed sustainable? 540 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean my eyes and it says yes. Just watching 541 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: these things and then watching the mentality in the sideline 542 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,199 Speaker 1: when you see JJ Watt. He was doing that the 543 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: entire game that NFL Films Club. He was stalking the 544 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: sideline before the game and I mentioned it to the 545 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: booth and I said, at my first report before kickoff, 546 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: the man was like seething. He was legitimately worked up 547 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: like I've never seen him going up and down the sideline. 548 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: And then Kyler said it after the game when he said, 549 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,239 Speaker 1: you know what, in fact, here's the quote right here. 550 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: He said, I think we were even more excited talking 551 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: about the circumstances because the odds seems stacked against us. 552 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: This team seems to have that personality trait where if 553 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: there's a challenge, they welcome it, they feed off it, 554 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's why they've been so successful. 555 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean, going into that Rams game, a lot of 556 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: people obviously picked the Rams. Going into that Tennessee game, 557 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people were picking the Titans, and I 558 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: feel like they feed off of that. But even going 559 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: back to the whole point of why people are so 560 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: reluctant to even you know, put them number one based 561 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: off last year. Last year, they don't win this game. 562 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean last year, if you're without Kingsbury, without your 563 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: position coach, or you're without challenge Jones, you're not gonna 564 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: win this game on the road. A lot of the 565 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: games that they won this season, they're not gonna win 566 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: those games last year. So I just feel like a 567 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of these reporters, analysts or whoever's 568 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 1: analyzing the Cardinals are kind of contradicting themselves because they 569 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: always bring back last year. But then you fail to 570 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: look at this year and a lot of the games 571 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: that they've won this year. Let's see the Rams, they 572 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: don't win that game last year, Tennessee. They probably don't 573 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: even win that game last year. Of course against the Rounds, 574 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: you're not gonna win that last year. So if you're 575 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: gonna always bring back this hole, oh, we want to 576 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: be careful because we remember what have been in twenty twenty. 577 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: But then you're not necessarily paying attention to the ways 578 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: that they're winning. I mean they didn't. They didn't just 579 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: win by a field goal touchdown. I mean they went 580 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: on the road and they dominated. So well exasperated over there, 581 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: you just went minority report on this SI writer. Because 582 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: here's how he wraps up. You just hinted at it, 583 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: he says. His last His last stat that he cites 584 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: is that the Cardinals are top ten in offensive and 585 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: defensive red zone efficiency, typically a volatile stat. Unless you 586 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: have a Derrick Henry on your roster, you do. His 587 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: name is Kyler Murray. He's a unicorn, just like Derrick 588 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: Henry in many ways, he continues, it smells a bit 589 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: like the two twenty edition, albeit with a better defense. 590 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Now those are fighting words right there, if you're gonna 591 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: reference two twenty. And by the way, why is it 592 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: the Bills get credit for being one of two teams 593 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: to have a top five scoring offense and top five 594 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: scoring defense. The other team they are Zona Cardinals. No 595 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: one's a believer apparently in the sustainability of that. But 596 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: everyone's on board with the Bills. Now, of course, the 597 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 1: Bills made a deep run in the playoffs and they 598 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: have playoff victories. I get it. And the other thing 599 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: you brought up March madness earlier, that's I mean, the 600 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: great thing about the NCAA basketball tournament is we can 601 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: talk all day about who's what. If you're left standing 602 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: at the end, you get to say you're a champion. 603 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: And that's the same thing that's going to happen here. 604 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,479 Speaker 1: And it won't take away from this team if they 605 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: don't win the Super Bowl, but they have a really 606 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: good season and win a playoff game or two. But 607 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: if they really want to shut everybody up, then they 608 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: gotta go win this stuff. And look, they're gonna play 609 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: the Rams again. They got this Packers game we're talking about, 610 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: They have to go to Dallas at some point. They 611 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: still have two games against Seattle, which is going to 612 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: be tough no matter what, and then Russell Wilson might 613 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: be back for both those games, so you know there's 614 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: going to be other tests. I've said it before, and 615 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm doing anything any disservice. They're not 616 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: going seventeen and oh. I don't even think I don't 617 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: even think it's a good thing to go seventeen and 618 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: O to really boost the pressure on them, to be honest. 619 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: But see, the thing that annoys me is obviously they're 620 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: gonna lose some games at some point in this season. 621 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I mean, unless, first whatever reason, they go undefeated. But 622 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: I don't lose to the Packers because we don't want 623 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: to go to Green Bay and Lambeau in January for 624 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: a playoff game. Do you not lose that tiebreaker? I'm sorry, 625 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: I just I had to board that up. But I mean, 626 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I feel like as soon as they lose one of 627 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: those close games, if that happens, you just know they're 628 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: gonna write about it. But why But here, I guess 629 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: ultimately this is this is my more mellow older age 630 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: that I've found in Philippe. So we are leaning back 631 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: in your chair. In the old days, you'd be standing 632 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,719 Speaker 1: right now. And I tell my kids this when they 633 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: get upset, Like I said earlier, they get upset when 634 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: they don't get why do you give a crap? I mean, 635 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: what does it matter? You know, I know that the 636 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: players say that stuff, and I just I can't get 637 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: that worked up about it because on a weekly basis, 638 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: you get to show something. Well, we already saw it. 639 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 1: They stayed undefeated. They were the talk of the town, 640 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: the town being the at a found nation using cliche. 641 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: They were the talk of the town after they eat 642 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: up the Rams. Okay, a week later they still beat 643 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. Wasn't sexy, And then all of 644 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: a sudden, it was like they fell off the face 645 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: of the earth. Like I'm like, that was what really 646 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: kind of blew me away. I'm like, wait, just a 647 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: week ago they beat the Rams really badly and they 648 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: had one game where okay, they didn't like make it 649 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: super pretty, and it was like everything you did against 650 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: the Rams is totally gone already. And I guess I 651 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: don't understand that. But again, when I say I don't 652 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: understand it, that's pretty much as far as I go. 653 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm gonna talk about it on the podcast 654 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: because it's good fodder to talk about. But really, when 655 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: I saw that this morning about sports it or something 656 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: like yeah, we give a crap like Darren said, because hey, 657 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: we want the cloud man with cloud chasing. That's what 658 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: we're doing here. You know, if the team wins and 659 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: social media spoppin, we get out of the cloud, out 660 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: of the attention. You kind of, I guess I see that. Well, 661 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: what was everybody taking notes about the last you know, 662 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: seventy two hours leading up to that game, in the 663 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: game itself, because you know that's gonna be a cardinal 664 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: spoke Tales at some point already brought it up. Oh didn't. 665 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: He texted me the very next morning he says, I 666 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: can't wait till Cardinals Broadcasting does the Folk Tales episode 667 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: on the last the weekend or the week that was 668 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: before the Browns. And it's all the little tidbits. It's 669 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: little stuff like we found out during the Spencer Whipple 670 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: presser early this week when he mentioned stuff like um, 671 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: he had to figure out how to work the call button. 672 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: He said, before I could call the plays, I had 673 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: to figure out how to work the call button. I'm 674 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: the contraption on his belt right, Little things like that, 675 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: like they're on he's on the early early bus to 676 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: the game. And it's raining at this point. And by 677 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: the way, they did not have the tarp on the 678 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: field when it was raining and sleeting and haling, and 679 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: I really feared for the worst on that field. It 680 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: was a lot better than I thought it was gonna 681 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: be in terms of the attraction and way that that 682 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: field held well, I did. I did see you running 683 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: some gasters out there to test it out. So I 684 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: was about I say, did you test run? Did you 685 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: run a fifty year? No? But I wore my old 686 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: shoes because I knew what was happening. I brought it 687 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: literally got home. My wife was like, why are you 688 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: wearing those shoes? I go because it was a mess 689 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: on the field. Okay, that's a veteran tick. Took me 690 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: seventeen years to stop ruining shoes. Now I just wear 691 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: the old ones, so okay. Uh. And then he said 692 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: on the bust of the game, they were so amped 693 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: up and so worked up and they got their playsheet 694 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: right and it's not laminated. Yeah, and it's raining out. 695 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Just a little funny tidbits like that. It was entertaining 696 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 1: to hear from Spencer Whipple because come on, now, he 697 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: can play it as cool and as calm as he wants. 698 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: And deb was Justin Pugh Scutter report that he is 699 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: a cool, calm, collected guy, unflappable as a word, Justin 700 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: Pugh used. And they try and mess with him and 701 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,479 Speaker 1: harass him when he does address the team during the 702 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: red zone meetings because he's a young guy. But uh, 703 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, come on, you can't. And he did admit 704 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: after the game he was still so amped up. He's 705 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: after the game, he'd give him back all the equipment 706 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: and he's still reaching for his belt and then and 707 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 1: the call button. He still he was like involuntarily reaching 708 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 1: muscle memory. It's it's like when you you you keep 709 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: thinking your phone is buzzing in your pocket, and really 710 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, but that's look I I you know, 711 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: I've gotten to know Spencer a little bit since he 712 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: came up, because I talked to him very early in 713 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: when he was on the staff because he was coaching 714 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: at U mass when Andy Isabella was there, so I 715 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: had talked to him, gotten to know him a little bit, 716 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: and he's a great guy, and I think it's very smart, 717 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: and obviously his father is a football coach and it's 718 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: something that he wants to do. And I was, like 719 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: everybody else, I was a little surprised that he was 720 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: the one that ended up doing it, but all when 721 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: it really comes down to it, and I would like 722 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: to hear Cliff's thought process when he comes back. But 723 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: whether Close's gonna give us this thought process is another story. 724 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: But but it was interesting. It does make some sense 725 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: that he's that guy and you leave everybody. It reminded 726 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: me a little bit with him play calling of like 727 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: an offensive line kind of situation where okay, we can 728 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: your your left tackles out. We could move the right 729 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 1: tackle to left tackle and the right guard to right 730 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: tackle and put in a new right guard, or we 731 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: could just stick in a new left tackle and leave 732 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: everybody else the same and have less. And that's kind 733 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: of what it felt like. We're gonna leave Sean Cooler 734 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: as the run game coordinator, We're gonna let Jeff Rogers 735 00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: stay as the assistant head coach and make some of 736 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: the high level decisions. Vance is going to do the defense, 737 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: and we're gonna move Spencer Whipple, who's one of three 738 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 1: receivers coaches they essentially have because Jerry Sullivan is an 739 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: offensive assistant coaches receivers along with Sean Jefferson. We can 740 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: put him as the play caller and everybody else is 741 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: still in more or less their regular roles, and we 742 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: know he can do it. Anyways, he did it for 743 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: one game in college, and I trust him, and yet 744 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: everybody else is in the regular things, and maybe that 745 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: works out. I don't know if that's what Cliff's thought 746 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: process was, but it made me think of it a 747 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: little bit that way. He thought of it pretty deeply too. 748 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: You just wanted to tell five minutes soliloquy. Well, I 749 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: apologize for that. I did talk to someone who said 750 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: that Spencer Whipple is very sharp, very sharp coach, and 751 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: that Cliff has been aware of his football acumen for 752 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: a while and that he trusted him. That I guess 753 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: he's put him in a few other situations and tested 754 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: him here and there, and Spencer Whipple has come through 755 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: with flying callers. That's the way told to me, And 756 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: so for those truly on the inside of which I'm not, 757 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: but they were not shocked. They were not surprised, even though, 758 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: like he said, the only other time he had called 759 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: a game was a single game in twenty eighteen at 760 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: U Mass against South Florida UCF something like that. So, um, 761 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: that's the way it was explained to me. And then 762 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: look if if Sean McVeigh was hired when he was thirty, 763 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: if Cliff Kingsbury was a head coach when he was 764 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: thirty four, right, I mean, if you can do it right, 765 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: wasn't he a head coaches first year at Texas Tech? 766 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 1: He was thirty five? If you do the math, No, 767 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: if you do the math, Cliff Kingsbury was a head 768 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: coach of techs Tech at thirty four. Spencer Rubble's thirty two. 769 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: So I mean, guys have been there and done that 770 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: who have the ability, and Cliff Kingsbury was one of them. 771 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: And so once you recognize that in someone, okay, like 772 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: Cliff told him, just let a loose, let a rip. 773 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: And isn't that what Spencer Rubble said his dad told him. 774 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: His dad is theoc AT. Pitt told him, don't overthink it. 775 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: You know, it's sort of that scene from as long 776 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: as we're dropping movies, it's like the scene from Happy Gilmour, 777 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,400 Speaker 1: but Kevin Kneeling character feel the flow happy. It's circular 778 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 1: harvest the energy block out the bat. You know, feel 779 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: the flow happy, Right, that's what you do if you're 780 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: Spencer Whipple, like you've seen that movie more than once 781 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: and he I love that scene. And like Spencer Whipple 782 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,239 Speaker 1: said that he was sitting there. He was sitting there, 783 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: and there were a couple of times where he did 784 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: start to overthink it, and there was some time in 785 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,359 Speaker 1: TV timeouts he said, no, no, no no, let's just get 786 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: back into a rhythm. Just keep it simple here and 787 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: then boom then and then I'd love to know. And 788 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: this the other question you need to ask if you 789 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: do get an insight with Cliff Kingsbury, somebody needs to 790 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: ask him how many times did Kyler call his own 791 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: play check out of the play? How much more often 792 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: did he in a normal game versus that Browns game? 793 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: Because Kyler did joke afterwards, oh yeah, we had a 794 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: substitute teacher. I had a little bit more leeway out there. 795 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't that the word to use leeway it did, and 796 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 1: that is a good question. It reminds me a little 797 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: bit when I asked Jeff Rogers about when the decision 798 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: was made to make Spencer the play caller, whether that 799 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: was a plan all along in case something happened, or 800 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: if that was just and he basically, Jeff basically said 801 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: he wasn't privy to any of those conversations and basically 802 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: that's a cliff only decision anyways, and he goes at 803 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: the very end, he goes, I don't take anything the 804 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: head coach says as just a suggestion. Okay, yeah, so 805 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: maybe that's where Kyler is on most of those plays, 806 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: and it's a little different when Spencer Whipples is doing it. 807 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,399 Speaker 1: Would you guys compare to, like, I don't know if 808 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: when your guys' parents went out of town, when you 809 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: guys maybe wearing a manshie middle school, but then you 810 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: like threw a party or something in high school or 811 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: in college, you know, you know the parents are going 812 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: to be out of town, you're gonna be disappointed, fully paid. 813 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: But that I wasn't that guy I would have. I 814 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: didn't even trust my own friends, okay, more or less 815 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 1: anybody else who showed up at Casa KALBC. Anyway, go ahead. 816 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Fully pay, You'll never win. You never 817 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: went against the grain growing up like oh sure, very 818 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: rarely sure, but usually involved a vehicle and involved the 819 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: home stuff. We won't get into that in my auto 820 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: insurance rates. Here's here's the problem, Phelipe. Your your dad 821 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: is like a famous personality. Like you're putting this out there. 822 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: There are people that are gonna listen to this podcast day. 823 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 1: Do you realize what your son did? I just want 824 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: people to know that, you know, my dad is human. 825 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: He does have a son that was a bit rebellious 826 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: growing up. So that's what I felt that, Like Kyler 827 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 1: Murray was, you know, he knew the Papa Bear wasn't 828 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in town, so he invited. He invited all 829 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: the homies and he just you know, De Hop and 830 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: Christian come get your touchdowns baby exactly. Aj Aj Green's 831 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,720 Speaker 1: that older alumni that stuff came around, but people didn't 832 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: necessarily want him around, but they're gonna. You know, he 833 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 1: still had at the time of the time of his 834 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: life or something like sure, because he wanted the cloud right, 835 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: he wanted to host the party. He wanted the cloud 836 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 1: got I got a golf cloup there. That's good. I 837 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: got a golf clap. I just said the guy hanging 838 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: around And now I'm thinking of Matthew McConaughey and what 839 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: movie was that. I'm drawing a blank on it. Oh Man, 840 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: you know the one where he's the guy out of 841 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,319 Speaker 1: high school and he's coming back to the high school. Yeah, 842 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: so you had another movie reference. I just kept thinking 843 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: the name of Yeah. So, if Almas was listening, he 844 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: would have texted me by now. But he's not, by 845 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: the way. De hopping JJ Watt, Houston, Texans. Okay, what's 846 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 1: gonna happen? What? What TikTok? What's trending here? All right, 847 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: here's my prediction. DeAndre Hopkins gets his first hundred yard 848 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: game of the season. I think they are going to 849 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: make an absolute concerted effort. I think Kyler is going 850 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: to make a concerted effort. De hop hasn't had one 851 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: of those games. Here's the team that we can do 852 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: it against. You know, he badly wants to do it. 853 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: I think he has his first hundred yard game. J. 854 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: J Watt, I think he's in that situation where you know, 855 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 1: the X already left. You know, you guys left on 856 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: good terms. You know you don't want any drama or 857 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: anything like that. He's gonna have another JJ Watt game 858 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: like he's had in the past two weeks, and you 859 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: know that's on the past. You know, well, they did 860 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: do him a solid, right they made him a free agent. 861 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah they did. They did do him at the very end, 862 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: they did yeah a lot. Although you know that there's 863 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: got to be a part of JJ that wants to 864 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 1: show because he knows all the Houston fans are gonna 865 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: be watching. You want to show out. But I do 866 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: think JJ would look at this game differently than DeAndre 867 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: Hopkins is going. I mean, it's too bad Bill O'Brien 868 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: won't be there on Sunday because they still need to 869 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,920 Speaker 1: give him the hardware for the Arizona Cardinals twenty twenty. 870 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: MVP's Bill O'Brien and making the trade with the Arizona Cardinals, 871 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: so they need to still give him the hardware on 872 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: that one. I will say this, Laramie Tunsil is out, 873 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: so J J Watt, Hello, go put him over the 874 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: backup left tackle, move him around that line and just 875 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: let him eat. Well if if Tyrod Taylor is able 876 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,919 Speaker 1: to come back, It's one thing, but if they're still 877 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: playing Davis Mills, Yeah and uh And by the way, 878 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: j J Watt and Chandler Jones are now tied career 879 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,000 Speaker 1: sacks one or two apiece. So like we said in 880 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,320 Speaker 1: game one, Chandler Jones is very aware of jj Watt's 881 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: career total in sacks. Let's just leave it at that. 882 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: And as soon as he got one ahead of jj Watt, 883 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm the opening game of the season. It took him 884 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: four quarters, that's all it took him to get those 885 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: five sacks and get the lead on jj Watt. I 886 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: have also have a prediction that if Chandler Jones is back, 887 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 1: he will get a sack because he sees the standings 888 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: again and he's got to break that time. That's a 889 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: great question too. I mean, if Chandler was out Tuesday, 890 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 1: so what does that make ten days? Is that that's Friday, 891 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: Thursday or Friday. So if he has to miss practice 892 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: and misses a week, is that it's going to be 893 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: incredibly to watch. Do they play them? Do they play 894 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: him even like let's say he comes back on Friday, 895 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: do you still play him on Sunday give him that 896 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: he's been out. The only the only way I would 897 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 1: think he wouldn't is if and we don't know how 898 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: COVID affected him, but if if he got hit hard 899 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: with COVID and he just doesn't have the stamina, you 900 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: might want to be careful. I think he's active if 901 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: he's able to come back, but I don't know that 902 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: for a fact. This whole thing, guys, is going to 903 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: be interesting to watch of who's able to come back 904 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: who isn't, whether it's Cam Turner or Cliff Kingsbury or 905 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: Corey Peters or Zach Allen. I mean, there's a there's 906 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: still an excellent chance everybody but Chandler will not be 907 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: able to return. And then were Chard Lawrence left injured? 908 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: So the team just signed Josh Morrow to the practice 909 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: squad for now? But how telling is that? Probably going 910 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: to be played a few games last year? And you know, 911 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: and I mean which leads us back to the criticism 912 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,880 Speaker 1: at least most of the analysts out there, what they 913 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: site is how real is the Cardinals defense? Can you 914 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 1: believe in this defense? And I'll just throw this out there. 915 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: We mentioned how they're a top five scoring defense. What 916 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: if and I know, here we go, what if the 917 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 1: Rams don't punch in that garbage touchdown with about a 918 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:55,760 Speaker 1: minute ago? What if there isn't a Hail Mayfield, Hail 919 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: Mary at the end of the first half, right what 920 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: if there isn't a pick six it's not on the defense, 921 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: but still counseling against their stats in the Vikings game, 922 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: Nick Vigil, what if there isn't the kick six by Jacksonville. 923 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: So you have four scores and twenty years ago four 924 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: scores right there that if you took those away, and 925 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: it's plausible, it's feasible that I think of where the 926 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals would be as a scoring defense right now, there's 927 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,719 Speaker 1: still they're still top five. That's a great point. And 928 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: actually I remember all of those plays obviously, but I 929 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: kind of forgotten them in a group until you start 930 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 1: picking them all. Just because we advanced Joseph on this 931 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: week's edition a game plan the Cliff Kingsbury TV Show. 932 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, we could have had Cliff Kingsbury 933 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 1: via zoom like we did all of last year, but 934 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: the head coach said, you know what, no, dance Joseph. 935 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:48,680 Speaker 1: I want him to do the show, which was which 936 00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: was great. I thought it was a very telling of 937 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury. So there's Vance Joseph and we had great 938 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: conversations and he admitted, like on the hill, first of all, 939 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: have you ever seen Vance Joseph really worked up? And 940 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: I see him on the side nine all gaming. Yeah, 941 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 1: he'll get fired up, but he never he never fails 942 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: to manage his emotions. Even on a hail Mary. He 943 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: was still composed, but you could tell he was steaming 944 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: red hot and coming off. He called it a double 945 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: no no one. You never let Baker Mayfield pop out 946 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 1: of the pocket number two. Half the guys were playing 947 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: like they were gonna pull some hook and ladder, so 948 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: they were in no man's land sort of midfield. And 949 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: then by that time you had three receivers to the Cardinals, 950 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: two dbs because Buddha Baker had fallen down before he 951 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: got to the end zone, you know, Vance Joseph and 952 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: Gallows Humor, So there were two different Browns receivers who 953 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: could have caught a hail Mary touchdown at that point. 954 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: That's how disappointed he was all the way around. That 955 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: play was just hard to watch. You know, Vance was 956 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: right when I understand playing short in case, somebody gets 957 00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 1: it short, but once all the pass catchers run past you, 958 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: you gotta high tail it to the end zone. You know, 959 00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: Buddha gets knocked down at the very end of the 960 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,320 Speaker 1: play and takes out a defender. But you know, it's funny. 961 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: There was another Hail Mary, and I can't remember if 962 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: it was an NFL or college one, that was basically 963 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,920 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's like, what's going on here? Why? Why? 964 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 1: How do you even defend it that way? Fortunately it 965 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,760 Speaker 1: didn't hurt them, and that defense was so good every 966 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,279 Speaker 1: other play. And you know what else, Vance also took 967 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,000 Speaker 1: it on himself, he admitted, and he did say this 968 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,720 Speaker 1: in the press guns afterwards. He didn't think Baker Mayfield 969 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: could throw it that far. Yeah, because earlier in the 970 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 1: game Baker had thrown the interception in that same direction. 971 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,280 Speaker 1: That's where the wind was most fierce, was in that direction. 972 00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: His interception fluttered, but man, he got that up and 973 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: there was a Next Gen's stat that's the longest in 974 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: the air completion since next Gen's stats started in twenty sixteen. 975 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,799 Speaker 1: It was like sixty six sixty eight yards in the air. 976 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: Because he was behind the line of scrimmage when he 977 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 1: launched it. And the thing is is that's that's where 978 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,240 Speaker 1: Vance I think got really ticked off about him getting 979 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: outside the pocket because he can't throw that in the pocket. 980 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: But if you can get a running start outside the 981 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: pocket and basically jabbling it down the field, I think 982 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: that helped him. I think he watched that hell Mary 983 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,919 Speaker 1: last year from Kylie and he's like, hey, watch watch 984 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: what I can do. But if except he was falling back. 985 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: So if there's a stat that really put the cherry 986 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: on top for me for this defense, it was holding 987 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 1: that rushing offense to seventy three yards coming into week six. 988 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,840 Speaker 1: The Browns obviously without Nick Chubb, but Kareem Hunt is still, 989 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: you know, a top tier running back in the NFL. 990 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: But you hold the offense that a rushing offense come 991 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: back coming into weeks six, you're averaging what one hundred 992 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: and eighty seven yards a game, Yeah, one hundred eighty 993 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: seven rush yards a game, and you hold them to 994 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: seventy three yards. That's just a testament to Vans Joseph one. 995 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of the credit has to go 996 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: to Vans Joseph because one year out without you're without 997 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,320 Speaker 1: what Corey Peter Peters, Zach Allen and Challenge Jones and 998 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence got hurt after what three snaps he played? And 999 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:48,240 Speaker 1: then you still hold Kareem Hunt and that Russian attack 1000 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,800 Speaker 1: to seventy three yards. I mean, that's that's just incredible. 1001 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,880 Speaker 1: How how crazy is it that for as much as 1002 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 1: they've been gashed on the ground, and they have been 1003 00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: at times, they're two best rushing two best games again 1004 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: against the best rushing team in the league and against 1005 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 1: the best running back in the league. Look what Henry 1006 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: just did last Night's crushed the hundred yard mark in 1007 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: every game except that the Cardinals, and I think the 1008 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: Brown's the same thing. I think they've crushed the hundred 1009 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: yard mark in every single game except the Cardinals. It 1010 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 1: helps to get a lead. In fact, you know it 1011 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: took most of Cardinals underground. Brought to you by Pacific 1012 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 1: Office Automation, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. But I do 1013 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,160 Speaker 1: believe I have discovered a legitimate complaint. We started this 1014 00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: by saying there's no legit complaints. I do have a 1015 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: legitimate complaint and it goes something like this. For all 1016 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: the people who questioned the Arizona Cardinals and they cite 1017 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: the defense, does it as staying power? Is it? For real? 1018 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: Couldn't you say the same thing about the other NFC powers? 1019 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: Is Dallas's defense? For real? They are historically bad a 1020 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,959 Speaker 1: year ago, they're better this year. They can only be better. 1021 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: You can't get worse than last year. We saw the 1022 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: Rams defense. Yeah, they have arguably the two best players 1023 00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: in the conference. Other than that, uh yeah, they've been 1024 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: ranked in the bottom third in most category. Whereas most 1025 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: of the season that Rams defense. Who else in the NFC? 1026 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Bucket, the Packers to all get out, 1027 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 1: And I mean the first three or four games, the 1028 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: Packers defense was abysmal, And so are you telling me 1029 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 1: they've completely turned that around? And that's a powerful defense 1030 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,759 Speaker 1: that you have to fear now. Todd Bowles has the 1031 00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 1: number one rushing defense in the NFL to the point 1032 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: where teams don't even try. But opponents in Tampa Bay, 1033 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they have torched that past defense and they're 1034 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,359 Speaker 1: scrambling to try and find corners in Tampa. So if 1035 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,919 Speaker 1: you're gonna question the Arizona Cardinals and say they don't 1036 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 1: belong in the top one, two three spots in the NFL, 1037 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,840 Speaker 1: power rankings and you're gonna site defense look at the 1038 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: rest of the NFC. I think you've made another fine point. Paul. 1039 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 1: My job, but again doesn't matter. I'm gonna go join 1040 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: the position group meeting out in the breezeway. That's what 1041 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: did they hear me? Did they hear that analysis? Maybe 1042 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: little say calBC, you're called up from the practice squad. 1043 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: You're activated, jump into this meeting. We need you to 1044 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:01,920 Speaker 1: make more football sense like that from these players around here. Okay, 1045 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: I know we're getting near the end. So I got 1046 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,279 Speaker 1: to ask this question. You step into a tight ends 1047 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,920 Speaker 1: meeting in the NFL, just you know, just an example, 1048 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 1: and they start going over plays right now, I know 1049 00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: that Paul CALVISI was once a superstar on the gridiron 1050 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: Leland High School? Were you, Felipe? I believe you were too. 1051 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm so what what school is it? North High School? Okay? Nice? Um? 1052 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: So my question is this, you sit in one of 1053 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 1: those things, would you be more uncomfortable trying to figure 1054 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 1: out deciphering what they're doing in that meeting? Or are 1055 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: you more uncomfortable if I don't and you sat down 1056 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: into a a issue Algebra one oh one class today 1057 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: someone who went in a simple algebra classes, um but 1058 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: NFL high level playbook kind of thing. I resemble that remark. 1059 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,320 Speaker 1: I can speak from a first person experience. At thirty 1060 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 1: years of age. I went back to school to get 1061 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: my graduate degree, and I sat in a stats class, 1062 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: a master's stats class, and I really had an out 1063 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: of body experience. I was floating over the classroom, over 1064 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,760 Speaker 1: the lecture hall, saying, what have I done with my life? 1065 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 1: What am I doing in here with all these math 1066 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 1: figures floating around? I was the guy who was in 1067 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 1: the library on a Saturday that entire semester, would rent 1068 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,720 Speaker 1: the room, would rent the study room in the public library, 1069 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: going there by myself and try and cram all this 1070 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: into my brain. And it took every ounce of my 1071 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: being to get a B minus in that class. I 1072 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: gotta B minus. It could be a crowning achievement my life. 1073 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: So I'm so glad, you asked, Daron, because that doesn't 1074 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,800 Speaker 1: come up often enough that I actually passed a master's 1075 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: graduate level stats class. So it's it's you're going into 1076 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,479 Speaker 1: an algebra class, an accident, or just in general, Well, 1077 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're going in the algebra class for the 1078 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 1: same reason you would be going into a tight ends 1079 00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: class for the NFL or tight ends meeting. You're not 1080 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 1: going in there for any good reason. Work with him, Felipe, 1081 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: Work with him. I mean, I wouldn't mind going into 1082 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 1: the tight end meetings. I'd say, would you mind? I said, 1083 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,480 Speaker 1: would you feel more lost? I would feel? Listen to 1084 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: the question here, I said, I have years of playing Madden, 1085 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,239 Speaker 1: so I kind of when I see plays on the 1086 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 1: on the what is that a whiteboard or whatever they 1087 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: have that a projector so when I see plays on that, 1088 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: I feel like through my years of playing Madden, I 1089 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,279 Speaker 1: would know what a Let me see an outside his 1090 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,680 Speaker 1: zone block. I will say this, I will say this. 1091 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,320 Speaker 1: This is weird, and I don't play Madden much anymore, 1092 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: but I played it for a number of years when 1093 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: my before my kids showed up, and then when they 1094 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: were younger, before my kids showed it. Yeah, well it's 1095 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,640 Speaker 1: been a while, but I did learn a lot of 1096 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,319 Speaker 1: football playing Madden. You do learn plays, and you do 1097 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: you do learn lingo that you wouldn't normally. It's kind 1098 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: of weird. Here's the thing, though, as someone has been 1099 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,560 Speaker 1: down on the sidelines, and especially last year when you 1100 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,919 Speaker 1: could hear everything. Yeah, now, if you want to get 1101 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,680 Speaker 1: banished from the NFL forever, report what you hear when 1102 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: it comes to access and knows on the sideline. Okay, 1103 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,920 Speaker 1: you will never work another game in your life. Yeah, 1104 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: they might, they might have JJ Watt body slammy on 1105 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 1: the sideline. But when you truly get an unfettered uh, 1106 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: listen to what they're saying. It is so far beyond Madden. 1107 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you it is so complex. It 1108 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: is so complicated. It's so far beyond high school football 1109 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,440 Speaker 1: or anything like that. That when you sit there and 1110 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,120 Speaker 1: they're looking at those overheads and they got the Microsoft 1111 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,520 Speaker 1: Service tablets going and all that kind of stuff, and 1112 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: they're talking, and they're talking through checks and what they're 1113 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: going to do in the next series right over your head. 1114 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: I just want to put into perspective. You said you 1115 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: were a superstar in high school. I did not say that. 1116 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: Darren said that in a snark filled manner. There's a 1117 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,439 Speaker 1: play on this roster that you would resemble. Who would 1118 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 1: it be? Andyzabella? That was almost too I mean, that's 1119 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 1: so easy. Come on, give me sevething juicy. To be honest, 1120 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: okay that that'd be in my best day. Um. To 1121 00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: be honest, I probably would get mistaken for Matt Prader. 1122 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,120 Speaker 1: Let's be honest walking into the hotel. You know, I 1123 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: get mistake for Mader. I'm not lying, and I don't 1124 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: mean this as a disc like I could see I would. 1125 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: I would love for Paul to bring in a picture 1126 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 1: of him from his high school days. I bet you 1127 00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: he totally yeah, like he probably looks like an eighties 1128 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: version of Andy Isabella. You know what, if you have 1129 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: something to say, there's actually a picture somewhere that my 1130 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: brother found one of our high school football programs when 1131 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: they're cleaning out my parents' place and actually took us 1132 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 1: picture of that. I will send that to you. Actually, 1133 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 1: I will not send it to you. I will show 1134 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: it to you because there's no chance I will send 1135 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: it to you. I'm gonna mend that I have a 1136 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 1: good relationship with the director of digital media here. Just 1137 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: send that over. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll 1138 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 1: trade you. I'll give you that picture if that guy'll 1139 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: give me a retweet? All right, what's next? Um, so 1140 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm oh for the recent era. That's okay anyway, 1141 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,799 Speaker 1: what else do we have on this thing that we 1142 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,720 Speaker 1: were talking about. We don't have to get to everything 1143 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 1: we've been talking for a while. It was a good 1144 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: podcast so far. So it says the guy who's in 1145 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 1: the middle of it, Darren, you've been using both hands 1146 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 1: to patch yourself on the back in this edition of 1147 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. I mean, right, Felipe. Honestly, he's as you 1148 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,600 Speaker 1: were going to compliment him, but he beat you to it. 1149 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. So you know it's not the 1150 00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: only Oh no, you didn't. I keep wanting to call 1151 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: you a state champ. But you said Tilman made him mistakes. Yes, 1152 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: I told you. The reason you know Pat Tillman is 1153 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: an all time legend isn't because the last time I 1154 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,400 Speaker 1: went to the Rose Bowl with his Pat, or it 1155 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,400 Speaker 1: wasn't the fact that Cardinals won their first playoff game 1156 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 1: in half a century with Pat during his rookie year. 1157 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,960 Speaker 1: It's because he took his high school to greatness, because 1158 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,960 Speaker 1: we were doormats every single year. But the middle child, No, 1159 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm most definitely the older child, the oldest child. You're 1160 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: the instigator, are you? Though? Always I'm the responsible one. 1161 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,680 Speaker 1: Felippe Dot that's right, because you didn't. You never threw 1162 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 1: like a party when your parents went out of the the 1163 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: town by the way, Um, where do you think the 1164 00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: whole JJ, I'm gonna leave with this because I'm gonna 1165 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: get him back to the d hop and then JJ 1166 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: Watt and J J Watt the last three games, it's 1167 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: been really good. Yes, now he finally showed him in 1168 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,400 Speaker 1: the box score the last two games and especially this 1169 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 1: game against the Browns. But coaches will tell you that 1170 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: once and he wasn't the only guy once some of 1171 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: the freelancing went away and trying to make a play 1172 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: and perhaps get out of your gap, and that you know, 1173 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: it was a little bit rampant. Once the coaches instilled 1174 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,960 Speaker 1: in you, you know what, if you stay where your 1175 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,960 Speaker 1: scheme to stay, you will make enough place where you 1176 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: could have an all pro season. Just trust the system. 1177 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: And I think there were enough guys who felt like, 1178 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: oh boy, especially after what Chandler did in that opening game, 1179 00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 1: like I gotta get mine. And so now once I 1180 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 1: think they've they've bought in a little bit more and 1181 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: there's that belief that okay, yeah, where this is schemed 1182 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: up is going to put me in a position to 1183 00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 1: make a play, and certainly JJ Watt has done that 1184 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,800 Speaker 1: and he's made a big difference. But I tell you, 1185 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: based on what I've seen the last three games and 1186 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: what this game could do as a launching point against Houston, 1187 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 1: I think he's still could be tracking for a Pro 1188 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,959 Speaker 1: Bowl spot. That's how good he's playing. I think based 1189 00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:12,280 Speaker 1: on what I've seen, I think you're going to have 1190 00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: an advantage there if this team continues to win, because 1191 00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: we all know Pro Bowl. Pro Bowls come from teams 1192 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,720 Speaker 1: that Pro Bowlers come from teams that win. And if 1193 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: this defense continues to play at a high level and 1194 00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: JJ Watt, people keep talking about some of the ways 1195 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,320 Speaker 1: to measure it beyond sacks, like how he's one of 1196 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: the top three interior defensive lineman in terms of pass 1197 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: rush that kind of stuff. I do think that that 1198 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,320 Speaker 1: will be considered now. I don't know what else anybody 1199 00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: else is doing around the league, And again we have 1200 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: eleven games to go. Things happen, people get hurt, whatever, 1201 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: But I like how he's playing. Even if he doesn't 1202 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl, I think it's been a great signing, 1203 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: just like AJ Green has been a great signing for 1204 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do and what they needed to do. 1205 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: I think they've been really good. I think this he's 1206 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna benefit tremendously. Like I mean, he kind of benefited 1207 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: frohim having Jordan Phillips on that defensive line and on Sunday, 1208 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: But imagine when that defensive line has a full healthy squad. 1209 00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about having Chandler Jones cross cross that they 1210 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: do at some point knock on wood. Yeah, I'm the 1211 00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: only one that believes in that, apparently, But in Chandler Jones, 1212 00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: you have Jordan Phillips getting more defensive snaps. You're gonna get. 1213 00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 1: You know, Zach Allen that prior to getting COVID, he 1214 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: had a career game. That's right, he was coming off 1215 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 1: his best game. And then now you're adding this. You 1216 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: know I would have say prime J J. Watt, But 1217 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,600 Speaker 1: he's finally in rhythm. You know, he's finally he went 1218 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 1: back to the meeting and he went over the place. 1219 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: He finally you know, I believe that's trademark gap assignments 1220 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: and everything like that. You know, it's getting juicy for 1221 00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,720 Speaker 1: that defensive line. Zach Allen got blindsided, like he blindsides 1222 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 1: quarterbacks We had him in the Big Red Rage Thursday 1223 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 1: night and then by Friday, be your phone, be your phone, 1224 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: bea fall zoom or whatever. You know. I said that 1225 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: it's all via fun. Ever since COVID hit, we've only 1226 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 1: done one in person, Big Red Ray. But can you 1227 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: imagine if you had done oh it in person with 1228 01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 1: him and then right test posit the next day, you 1229 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: would have had to bring in Frank Caliendo to do 1230 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Wolfley with Pass. He'd have to do four quarters of 1231 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: Wolfley with Pass. You're the whole bas and onions, right, 1232 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,680 Speaker 1: He'd have to do that whole thing with him the 1233 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: whole time. By the way, I'm gonna leave it at 1234 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,520 Speaker 1: this Um. You're all over the social media, Felipe, you're 1235 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,800 Speaker 1: running the mail bag. I have a couple of people 1236 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,800 Speaker 1: sniping and me that once again looking for legitimate complaints. 1237 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 1: Here there's always that guy that the Cardinals never should 1238 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,720 Speaker 1: have parted ways with, Hassan Reddick Son Reddick having a 1239 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:44,439 Speaker 1: pretty nice sesus in Carolina, pretty pretty good yep, six 1240 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,000 Speaker 1: and a half sacks. He's right up there in the 1241 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: top three. Twenty nine tackles, seven tackles for lost, nine 1242 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: quarterback hits, forced fumble fumble recovery. But can I count 1243 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: with Marcus Golden who now has four sacks, sixteen tackles, 1244 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:00,560 Speaker 1: two tackles for lost, five quarterback hits, pass defense, and 1245 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: three forced fumbles. It's Marcus Goold and t J. Watt 1246 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: who are the only players in the NFL with at 1247 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: least four sacks and three forced fumbles. I'm just wondering, 1248 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:11,919 Speaker 1: do you have any of those haters in the Son 1249 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Reddick camp and the mail bag? That much I've heard 1250 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: about Hassan Reddick a couple of times. Hasn't been lately. Actually, 1251 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 1: the mail bag that came out this week, I have 1252 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: somebody angry about Klais Campbell again, oh no, calling it 1253 01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: calling it the biggest blunder in sports history, which I 1254 01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: don't know if I can go to. That offered him 1255 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: twelve million a year, but he got fifteen millionaire for 1256 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: four years from Jacksonville. It is Look, pay taxes. Oh 1257 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: actually it's Florida and it's Florida, so there were no taxes, 1258 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 1: no state tax and he's not in Florida anymore. And 1259 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,920 Speaker 1: now he's in Baltimore. And look, I understand that that 1260 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 1: was the thing, the Reddick stuff I understand, but you know, 1261 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: it's not like everybody was banging down Hassan's door, unfortunately, 1262 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: and uh, they thought he was going to get a 1263 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 1: big contract, they weren't ready to give him one. By 1264 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: the time he was willing to take a one year deal, 1265 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: they had already resigned Marcus Golden and they were maxed 1266 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:11,680 Speaker 1: out at that position essentially. So you know that that 1267 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of stuff that happens. And I'm happy for Hassan. 1268 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe he hits the free agent market next 1269 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 1: year and comes back. You never know. He got a 1270 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,920 Speaker 1: one year deal for like eight million or so, correct, 1271 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 1: and Marcus Golden got up two for nine if memory 1272 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 1: serves so. But Marcus is having a great year, and 1273 01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm happy for Marcus. And the one thing you can 1274 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 1: never say about that, I mean, the dude had two sacks, 1275 01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: and one of them for sure that might have been both, 1276 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,000 Speaker 1: was like, should have had him once and then kept 1277 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: at it. And that's that's what you love to see 1278 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,439 Speaker 1: about that guy, that he just the motor just never 1279 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 1: turns on. And by the ways, Vans Joseph told us 1280 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 1: on his un filling in for Cliff Kingsman on the 1281 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: TV show there's been two, three, maybe four sacks that 1282 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: JJ Watt just didn't finish. He's got to finish. Van 1283 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Joseph said, he told JJ that, man, you gotta finish. 1284 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: And it's obviously big enough to bring down any quarterback. 1285 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: It's just man, A couple of guys have just slipped 1286 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: out of his grasp at the at the last moment. 1287 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: So I have not been able to find the elusive 1288 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: picture of yours truly in all my high school football fame. 1289 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Don't worry. Next week on the podcast, I'll hold it 1290 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,800 Speaker 1: up to my mic so everybody can see it. You know, 1291 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: who's the character from Oh my goodness, I threw the 1292 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 1: ball over the mountain. I could throw this ballo. Yeah, 1293 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,640 Speaker 1: so that's my uncle Rico. Moment here, Phelipe at the 1294 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,160 Speaker 1: very end. Okay, so I find it, pod. We're gonna 1295 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,439 Speaker 1: find it. We're gonna make you go viral and then 1296 01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: hopefully you get to reach that you. I'm just kidding. 1297 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I'll talk to her. I gotta talk to part of worry. 1298 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: I got you you guys. Let you guys welcome me 1299 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,280 Speaker 1: on this podcast. So at least I can do is Phelippe. 1300 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: You know how we're gonna get you some cloud. I'm 1301 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna go out the side door and 1302 01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll video. And I want you to exit 1303 01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: out the side of the studio and sit down in 1304 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600 Speaker 1: the middle of the tight end position. Forget that sign 1305 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: that says don't open this store. Just sit down right 1306 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 1: in there, right in between Durrell Daniels and Zach Ertz. 1307 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: I want you to sit down and just maybe have 1308 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: a notepad with you in a pen, okay, and just 1309 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,880 Speaker 1: sit down and see what happens. See how long before 1310 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: Steve Hyden, who's all about who he's about six five 1311 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:17,000 Speaker 1: two seventy, picks you up and throws you through the 1312 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: new you want to see cloud in a different definition 1313 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:24,920 Speaker 1: of cloud. That's right, you'll get. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm 1314 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:29,520 Speaker 1: gonna get a cough from Tienderlaney, Matt s pretty much, 1315 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 1: Matt Harris. You know I'm gonna be out love me. Yeah, 1316 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: you better go prepare accordingly. As so we'll wrap up 1317 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,640 Speaker 1: this edition A Cardinals Underground brought to you by a 1318 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,960 Speaker 1: Pacific Office Automation, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals