1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Best of Cavino and 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Rich podcast. We shoure to catch us live every day 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: from five to seven pm. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: The Eastern two to four pacifics. 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: On Fox Sports Radio. 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Find your local station for Convino and Rich at Fox 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every. 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 3: Day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. They say 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 3: it's the worst call of all time. Not only is 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: it not that it was the correct call. Welcome in 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 3: on a New Year's Eve. Goodbye twenty twenty five. Hello 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six. He is Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer, 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: sitting in for Cavino and Riches. Today's show is sponsored 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: by DraftKings sportsbook in official sports betting partner of the 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 3: NFL and NBA. Right now use the promo code CR 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: Show to claim your special offer at DraftKings Again. That's 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: Promo Code CR Show at DraftKings. The Crown is yours. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Welcome in. We're not doing this by ourselves. Isaaclohincron is here, 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: as is our execus. Get a producer. Jason Stewart, Hello Jason. Hello. 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: Every Monday, Christopher Fetts in place of Iowa Sam Today, 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, yes to say, is he the first person 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 3: to ever take off the day for the Redly Quest Bowl? 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: Gotta be Ready's sick. I got word that Sam is 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 3: under the weather air quotes. I'm I'm not using air 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: quotes on the radio. I'm not doing that. I will 26 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: say that maybe he pregamed too hard for this. IOWA 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: relya Quest Bowl which ended up in victory over Vanderbilt today, 28 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: as you heard Isaac glowing Kron and the update, A 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: lot of games going on will keep you updated, but 30 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: the game that we're talking about and it spreads to 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: a bigger picture. Just like Kevino and Rich, we love 32 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 3: to include you guys in on the conversation eight seven 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: seven nine nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: six six three six'. Nine the REASON i give that 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: number out now and don't call because you don't even 36 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 3: know what we're going to talk. About but we love 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 3: audience participation because you, know, somewhere at some point in 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: your sporting, life you remembered an awful call that went 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: against your. Team and an awful call is one that 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: will stick with you. Forever how DO i know this 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: because it seems to be one of the only talking 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: points leading up to tonight's game Between miami And Ohio, 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: state AND i am looking right now at an Article 44 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Aaron torres From The Sporting news from just three days. 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 3: Ago sure in talking about The National championship game from 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: the two thousand and two. Season it happened in Early 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 3: january of two thousand and three in The Fiesta, bowl 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: and the title says for The Sporting news Was Glenn 49 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: sharp's pass interference The miami defensive back On Ohio state 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: wide receiver and Cornerback Chris. Gamble the quote the pass 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: interference call was it the quote worst call of all? Time. 52 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: Woo so when talking about this game, tonight where players 53 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: who are playing in the game, tonight not only do 54 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: they have no recollection of, it many of them not. 55 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: Born say there may be one or, two maybe a 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: handful of players that were born as this game was being, 57 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: Played but we're talking about, eighteen nineteen twenty year old. 58 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 3: Guys they don't even know anything about this game unless 59 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: they watched it on A dvd or founded on. YouTube 60 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: if you need a refresher on how that game didn't 61 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: end while some thought it did. End this Was Keith 62 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: jackson And Dan fouts ON abc on the call That 63 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 3: National Championship night. 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: Were reps up there as as a white out. Two 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 4: the ball goes into the end zone and that is 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: in you conflate intended for. Gamble now there is a 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: penalty flag. 68 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: Throne hold on hol the. 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Phone everybody comes running down on the. Field if you 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: gotta get off because there's a penalty flag. THRONE i 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 4: think it's Against. 72 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: Miami and if it's thrown in the end, zone the 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 5: ball will be placed on the one yard. 74 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: Line first in Gold. 75 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: Glenn sharp trying to Cover Chris gampbell that he may 76 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: have arrived ten too. Soon Randy crystal pasn't, There. 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: Yeah Glenn, sharp thirty one On chris gamble number. 78 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: Seven, oh that's a tough call. There what about this? 79 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 5: Angle bad? 80 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 6: Call that? 81 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: Call, Okay Dan fouts twenty three years, later it was 82 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: the right. Call you just got a bad. Replay so 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: the replay that you see sees two guys going up 84 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 3: for a football And gamble And sharp and what seems 85 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: like a jump all situation and pass interference was. Called 86 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 3: the contact on the play that actually rose to the 87 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: level of pass interference came before those players were put on. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Camera it was not in the end zone in a 89 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: jump ball. Situation If Craig crensle had thrown the. Football 90 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: by the, way this is just me going off On 91 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: Dan fouts twenty three years. Later If Craig crenzel still 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: had the football in his hand when the play, happened 93 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: it would have been defensive. Holding what the referees were 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 3: discussing was was it pass interference or was it defensive. 95 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: Holding it ended up rising to the level of pass 96 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: interference because the interference came when the ball was in the. 97 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 3: Air that is my story And i'm sticking to it 98 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 3: and the reason why Official Terry porter made that. Call 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: it may have been a late. Call it was a 100 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: call That miami jumped the gun and thought that they 101 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: had won a national, championship but a late flag came. 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: In it is not the worst call of all, Time Sporting, 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 3: news and it is not bad Call Dan. Fouts, now 104 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 3: AS i look at it from that, way it is 105 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: amazing that twenty three years later we are still talking 106 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: about this. Play and that's where we. Start controversial calls in, 107 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 3: sports the calls that you remember to this day because 108 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 3: of how they affect the outcome of some of the 109 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: most important sporting events of our. Lifetime DO i dare 110 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: read the headline THAT i just? Found let's read? It? 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay So Glenn, sharp who was the defensive, back 112 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: was later. 113 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 3: Charged with. Murder i'm just gonna say. It he, Was. 114 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: Okay i've been looking to see IF i can confirm 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: that he was ever convicted or, not BUT i cannot 116 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: find it anywhere on the, internet which is kind of. 117 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: Amazing the headline from Off Tackle empire in twenty, Twelve Glenn, 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: Sharp Glenn sharp charged with first degree murder and he 119 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: still committed past. Interference see that person that's fighting with 120 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: evened Out, well not so much because fouts And Sporting 121 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 1: news feel a certain. 122 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 3: Way but everybody, complains And miami, complains and THE u, 123 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: complains and everybody complains about that. Call but it's a, 124 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 3: call whether whether you liked it or, not it still 125 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: is talked about to this. Day so now that brings 126 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: us to this point instead of talking about Is Ohio 127 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: state going to be able to match up With miami 128 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: offensive defensive lines which has been talked about and vice. 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 3: Versa by the, way for The buckeyes And, hurricanes it's 130 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: not so much been that in Ken Ohio state rebound 131 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 3: from their loss To. Indiana it's been more about mentioning 132 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: this game and really where these two programs have gone 133 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: since that, point because that was kind of the end 134 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: of THE u part two and then the start of 135 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: the real rise For Ohio, state where they've been on 136 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: an unbelievable heater for the past twenty, years starting with 137 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: that national championship. Win, Yeah so to the game really. 138 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Quick CAN i just, say first of, ALL i have 139 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: been genuinely shocked how many people are trying to play 140 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: up that narrative of oh. Two that the reason that 141 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: the two programs went in different. Directions one was coached 142 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: By Jim, tressel the other was coached By Larry. Koker 143 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: it's really that. Simple that is why the two programs 144 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: went in two different. Directions, Whatever So i'm gonna give you. 145 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: One the stakes were not nearly as. High BUT i 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: will tell you the most, memorable awful miss call. 147 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 3: THAT i can. 148 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: Remember it was The Armando galarraga play that robbed him 149 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: of a perfect. Game, yes and it stands out because 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: one profet you, know may have been In Comerica park 151 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: that Day june, second twenty, ten But it stands out 152 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: because in the, moment you, like you, know pass interference 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: is by definition a fifty to fifty judgment. 154 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: Play Hm Armando. 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Galraga in the moment you knew it was, like oh 156 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: he the ump just missed. That Jim, joyce by the, 157 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: way was the. Ump we still know his name fifteen years. 158 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: Later he missed. It there's no, replay there's no way 159 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: to get it, right there's no flag to, throw there's 160 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: no challenge. This it was just a perfect game that 161 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: should have been a perfect. Game that wasn't a perfect. 162 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Game and you knew it in the. 163 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: Moment it. 164 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't you had to look at ten different replays and 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 1: maybe the need you, know maybe the foot, touch the. Bait, no, no, 166 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: no it was wrong in the, moment and he knew 167 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: it right. 168 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: Away let's hear that. 169 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 7: Moment round ball right, Side, cabrera we'll cut it. 170 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: Off colororaga. 171 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 8: Turs he's, Out he's, safe he is. Safe he is 172 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 8: safe at, first, babe are you kidding? 173 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: Me why is he? Safey there you? Go he that 174 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 3: call robbed everybody of. Something it robbed like that call 175 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: right there made me realize that it Robbed the announcers 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: of the opportunity to call a perfect. Game when you're 177 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 3: looking back on your career thirty years, later what were 178 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: the Highlights i'll never forget WHEN i was there When 179 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: Armando galarraga threw a perfect game for The. Tigers now 180 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: you can Say i'll never forget When Jim joyce messed 181 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: up the perfect game For Armando, galarraga but it doesn't 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 3: have the gravitas of actually having a perfect. Game Jason, stewart. 183 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 9: Remembering, yesterday twenty four hours, ago you And momsey Bill 184 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 9: aniols were having a heated debate about whether or not 185 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 9: Pukuin akua's play On monday night was a, Catch And 186 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 9: i'm gonna reiterate my stance on. THIS i actually did 187 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 9: some umpiring In little league in high, school and my 188 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 9: whole thing was reward the great. Play so if there's 189 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 9: a if there's like a diving play at shortstop and 190 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 9: he makes a throw that's a, banger you need to 191 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 9: have the awareness in the situation to reward the great. 192 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 9: Play nobody's gonna argue with you if you call him. 193 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 9: Out this was a thing With Jim, joyce, like you 194 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 9: need to have the awareness of these Moment this. SITUATION 195 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 9: i couldn't believe at that time that a veteran umpire 196 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 9: would on a banger not just give it to the 197 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 9: defense for the situation for, Baseball and so that's kind 198 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 9: of my overall, thing like reward the, play reward the great, 199 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 9: play reward the great. Moment Jim joyce didn't have that 200 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 9: in that. MOMENT i love how. 201 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: The tigers and we look at it as, like what 202 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 3: a touching, Moment BUT i almost feel like they're, like 203 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 3: you know, What you're gonna go to home. Plate you're 204 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: gonna hand up the hand of the lineup. Card the next, 205 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 3: day you, Know joyce is crying at home plate and 206 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 3: feeling emotional about what went, On but it's also a 207 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 3: kind of, yeah we, Remember, yeah they actually everybody's gonna 208 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: remember this for that long and then you know THEY 209 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: i don't, know he apologized for making the. Call people 210 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 3: try to get the call overturned and turned. Around that never. 211 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 3: Happened everybody saw the missed call and there was nothing 212 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: they could do about it because of his. Actions and 213 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: to your, Point, jason what is Worse Armando coloraga not 214 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: having a perfect game because of that call or having 215 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 3: a perfect game because the guy was, safe, Right like, What, 216 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: like it is a hundred times worse of not having 217 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: the perfect. Game it's not even. Close you much rather 218 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 3: would have the perfect, game but, like you know, what 219 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: he was actually. Safe he'm, like well it was like 220 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: it is it. Is it's not even. Close it is 221 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 3: so much worse to not have the perfect game because 222 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: of the, announcer because of the fans that were, there 223 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: that stayed for all the nine, innings all the memories 224 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: that they. Had that, is it is one hundred times 225 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: worse to not have the perfect game as opposed to 226 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 3: having it and having a blown. Call here's the other, thing. 227 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: TOO i don't want to steal anybody, else's But i'm 228 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: guessing they're salmon. 229 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: Up you don't want to sam it. 230 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: UP i don't want to sam it. Up, no, no, No 231 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: But i'm sure you're gonna. Reference there's two or three 232 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: that immediately come to. MIND i won't say, him but big, 233 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: moments big, games, PLAYOFFS, nfc chit, whatever college, Football national. 234 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: Tips it Was june, second twenty. Ten so To dan's, 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: point if you call them safe and you're not, sure 236 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: like this DOESN'T i know baseball Purest, oh every game 237 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty. 238 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: Two they all, count they don't all. 239 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Count it Was june, Second it Wasn't october eleventh In 240 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: game four of THE. Lcs, okay, anyway that's my only. 241 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: Point that's a regular season, Game that's WHAT i. 242 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 3: Mean, yes this did the call With Ohio, state with 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: the Ficial Terry. PORTER i know his. NAME i Know 244 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: miami fans know his, name And i'm Sure Ohio state 245 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: fans know his. NAME i think the country Knows Jim, joyce, 246 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 3: yes AND i don't know if the country Knows Terry. 247 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: Porter but there are other officials that have made calls 248 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: that we. Remember Isaac, lohenkron do you have a nominee 249 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 3: in terms of calls controversial calls in? SPORTS i. 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: Do let's go back to THE Nfc championship game after 251 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 2: the twenty eighteen. Season The rams and The saints tied 252 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: at twenty one forty nine left in the fourth, Quarter 253 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: New orleans with a third down and ten at The 254 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 2: rams thirteen yard. 255 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 5: Line passes in, complete no flag For Tommy, Lee lewis 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 5: Mckil Roaby coleman delivered a hit and the two officials 257 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 5: talk to each. Other crowd's going crazy as there's no. 258 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: Flag that should have been a, penalty And John payton 259 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: is justifiably. 260 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 2: Upset and obviously it had a lot to do if 261 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: The rams going to The Super bowl and The Saint 262 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: it's not that. 263 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: Year it was so clear and, blatant and it was so. 264 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 2: IMPACTFUL i think THE, nfl IF i can, remember overcorrected 265 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: because the next year pass interference could be challenged and 266 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: how was he an even bigger disaster IF i. 267 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: Remember it was such a disaster that In week two 268 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: The seahawks got a pass interference call in their benefit 269 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: against The steelers on a basically a jump. Ball in THE, 270 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: nfl there was like a fifty yard, penalty and THE 271 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 3: nfl is, like you know, What, yeah we're not gonna 272 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 3: do this, Anymore like it will change the role at 273 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: the end of the, year but we're not calling like 274 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 3: get stopped after two weeks because of how absurd it. 275 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 3: Was it was so. Absurd WHEN i see those White ram, 276 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: helmets that's WHAT i think, Of, like that's the. PLAY 277 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: i don't think of their return TO LA i think, 278 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: of is It Tommy Lee, lewis the receiver for The 279 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: saints that they That Joe buck mentioned him like all 280 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 3: of his his limbs are in the air after being 281 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: hit on the, play with the football still in somewhat 282 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: catchable you, know, Relevance and that's WHAT i remember of. 283 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 3: It but WHEN i see those white, HORNS i can't 284 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: help but not think of that play In New. Orleans 285 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: wasn't there wasn't there. 286 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 9: A thing in our talk space. Here wasn't there like 287 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 9: a that's bs THE nfl just wants the NEW NFL 288 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 9: la team to be in The Super. Bowl wasn't that 289 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 9: a weird kind of theory that? 290 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: Week, yes AND i found that there was a theory 291 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: that because Of Bounty gait And Sean, payton that they 292 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: didn't want them in that that was the. Theory, now 293 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 3: the play calling leading up to that, play it was 294 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 3: not some Of Sean payton's finer, Moments like there were 295 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: opportunities where they could have played it, better done it 296 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: better with the, clock but they they. Didn't they had missed. 297 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: OPPORTUNITIES i think they tried to throw screens Like Michael 298 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: thomas and it ended up being dropped or it was 299 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: was in the ground or too low for him to. 300 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: Handle but it Wasn't it wasn't the finest. Moment but 301 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 3: in that situation when you have a guy appears to 302 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: be open and then just gets leveled before the ball 303 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: even gets. There by the, way it's the play THAT 304 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 3: i still go back to WHEN i hear THE nfl saying, 305 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: like do we need eight? Officials, no we just need better. 306 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 3: Officials that's what we. Need we just need better. Officials 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: we need full time. Officials we need guys who played the. 308 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 3: Game we need. Guys it's not an age is a 309 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 3: sort of, thing but they're relying on guys who have 310 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: a lot of years in The National Football. League you 311 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: need to develop younger officials and bring them along and 312 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: move them along and have a new core of guys 313 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 3: because there's just not there's so much that goes on 314 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 3: and there's so much at. Stake that is definitely one 315 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: of the worst. 316 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 10: Calls Chris, Purfett, yeah there's a lot of DIRECTIONS i 317 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 10: could go in This and since we're In, DETROIT i 318 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 10: could talk about the picked up flag in The Cowboys 319 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 10: lions playoff game that was because it feels like a 320 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 10: lot goes Against, detroit AND i could nerd out and 321 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 10: start talking about, soccer about The maridonna hand Of, god 322 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 10: the handball that, missed sure Between. 323 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: Argentina but Let's iowa samit some. More, Yeah, No. 324 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 10: I'm gonna Go i'm gonna go back this because since 325 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 10: we're talking about THE nfl and we're talking about officials 326 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 10: here and we're talking about how, look how do you 327 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 10: get A by the, WAY. 328 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 3: I love how he Subtly iowa sammed this. Up did 329 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: you guys catch this trying not like it was trying to, 330 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: like so there's somebody that is probably tweeting in or 331 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: calling in the Like maradona hand of. Good it has 332 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: A wikipedia. Entry chris already just said. It So i'm 333 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 3: not gonna call. 334 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 10: It, Okay i'm Going i'm gonna stop it at this 335 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 10: one with. This this was this Was Phil luckett not 336 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 10: getting a coin toss right On thanksgiving between The steelers 337 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 10: and The. Lions you can hear Him Jerome bettis, SAYING i, 338 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 10: SAID i said. Tales that's so. 339 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: Spoiler Its lions go on to win that game Over. 340 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: PITTSBURGH i felt bad until the revenge came Where Jerome 341 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: bettis got to win In detroit over The seahawks And 342 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: Super bowl forty because of some by the, way awful 343 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 3: officiating calls throughout that. GAME i could just Put Super 344 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: bowl forty as a topic, here BUT i will not do. 345 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 3: So but that's a great. Call i'll always remember That. 346 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 3: Thanksgiving jerome bettis looking around with that look on his, 347 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: face like what what's going? On what's? Said? 348 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: Tails, yes first time ever people considered a video replay 349 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: on coin toss is going For, No i'm getting bad. 350 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: Joke bet, again my whole. Solution don't know what my 351 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: coin toss solution. Is so THE nfl is mucho. Dollars, 352 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: sure just put the helmet of one team on one 353 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 3: side and the helmet of the other team on the other, 354 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: side and don't ask what flip it up and whatever 355 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,439 Speaker 3: team comes, up that's who gets the, choice. Right they 356 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 3: don't need to do heads or tails like it's pretty. 357 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 3: Simple it's and then you know what you. Do you 358 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: auction that coin off to be, like, oh guess WHAT 359 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: i have the coin From week fourteen when The dolphins 360 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: ended up playing The. Jets you could. 361 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 10: Even make this part of the schedule announcement. Day you 362 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 10: have like a full minting that you show off shut 363 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 10: off every, game but the coins that are minted that 364 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 10: will be used in those. 365 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: GAMES i think it's, very very easy for THE, nfl 366 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: but they choose not to listen to. Me, jason do 367 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 3: we have any feedback on the lines on who wants 368 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 3: to get in on controversial calls BEFORE i add? Another all, 369 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: right let's go to the line. First who do we? Got? Oh, 370 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 3: no you know, what let me, uh let's skip. That 371 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 3: i'll give. You i'll give you. Mine Rameil robinson nineteen 372 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: eighty Nine National Championship Game college, Basketball michigan Against Seaton. 373 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 3: Hall michigan's down by. One Ramel robinson dribbles up the, 374 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 3: court dribbles in the middle of the, lane wasn't even 375 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 3: going to, shoot was looking to pass the, ball and 376 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: somehow a foul on the floor was called a reach 377 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 3: in giving him two free throws with three seconds. Left 378 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 3: he makes. Both seat in the, hall gets off a 379 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 3: last second prayer from about twenty three feet bounce his 380 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: heart off the. Backboard michigan ends up winning The national. 381 00:19:56,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: Championship isaac Lohncron, okay hold on a, second you want 382 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 3: to hear. It let's hear. It, oh, Sure michigan's. Ball 383 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: they've got an opportunity here, now but win. It they've 384 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: got a hurry five. 385 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 8: Seconds robinson, goes, wow foul call with three, seconds like. 386 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 11: A foul Against Satan hall with three. 387 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 3: Seconds if there was a phantom. Foul, Uh Brent, Musburger Billy, 388 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: PACKER Cbs sports on the. Call if there ever was 389 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 3: a phantom, foul it was in The kingdome that day In. 390 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: Seattle one of the worst calls in college basketball. 391 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: History, well and that goes to what we were saying 392 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: earlier With galarraga And Jim joyce is like no one 393 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: remembers the fifty to fifty call that doesn't get. Called 394 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 1: everybody remembers the ten ninety call that does get, called 395 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: or the zero one. Percent you know What i'm, Saying, 396 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 1: like you, know. 397 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 3: Somebody will, say, Well Romel robinson had to make those free. Throws, 398 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: well he shouldn't have had to shoot the free throws 399 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 3: that would have given. Him there's three seconds left in the, 400 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 3: game somebody's gonna have to throw up a pressure filled. 401 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 3: Shot he had two opportunities to keep them. Alive he 402 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: made them, both so they actually. Won he all he 403 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: had to do is make one of two and they're 404 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: in overtime like they're trailing by. One it was such 405 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: an awful call real. 406 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: QUICK i know it's a cliche thing to, say BUT 407 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: i am of the belief everyone, says, like if it's 408 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: a foul in the first, minute it should be a 409 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: foul in the last. MINUTE i actually fundamentally disagree with. 410 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: THAT i, think, certainly if a foul is a non, 411 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: negotiable like especially in, basketball if the penalty is a non, 412 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: Negotiable but if it's like a fifty to fifty, CALL 413 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: i would rather just the dudes on the court figured it. 414 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: OUT i don't know if that makes. 415 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: IT i Think jason's there with, you like on The 416 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 3: Jim joyce, call like they to his, point, like, yeah 417 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: if you if it's, close you're gonna ring them, up 418 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: like reward the. Play all, right who do we got 419 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: on the? Line, Jason Richard richard In? Seattle all, right you're, There, Richard. 420 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 6: Hey even Though i'm The, Seahawks, Richard mary is. 421 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 12: Historic the Fail, Mary, yes. 422 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 3: YES i agree with. You it's such an awful call 423 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 3: with replacement, REFS. 424 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 10: I believe that game like that had to be the 425 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 10: reason they brought the refs. BACK i don't think of 426 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,199 Speaker 10: the Film mary hadn't, happened that lockout would have continued 427 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 10: with the. 428 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: Officials, YEAH i. Agree it was so. Bad and as 429 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 3: A seahawks, FAN i remember WHERE i was watching that. 430 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: Game it was at my now wife then girlfriend's, apartment 431 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: And i'm, like they're going to actually give them the 432 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 3: touchdown because these idiots think that ty goes to the 433 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: offense even though there. Wasn't there wasn't anything close to a, 434 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: tie but there was a joint possession after the, fact 435 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: but it was clearly an interception By Green bay and 436 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 3: the replacement. Refs by the way that replacement ref went, 437 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: on did radio, interviews may have written a, book took 438 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 3: full advantage of. It who do we, Got, Jason Josh, Fresno, 439 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: josh are you? 440 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 13: There, Yep i'm. 441 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: Here controversial calls in? Sports what's your? 442 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 13: NOMINEE i would say it's not one. CALL i would 443 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 13: say it would have to be a confluence of. Calls 444 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 13: they went in one direction versus the. Other and that's 445 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 13: got to be The Sacramento kings versus THE La. 446 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: Lakers oh my, God, Yes isaac Long kron is right 447 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 3: there with. You the look on his face when you 448 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: started to Say Sacramento. KINGS i was at that. GAME 449 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: i covered that. Game oh, yeah that that goes down in. 450 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 3: HISTORY i remember at the time how long it. 451 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: Lasted BUT i will say this AS i recall AND 452 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 2: i got to confirm. It at the same, time you 453 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: have The Sacramento kings free throw shooting in game seven 454 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: that was about fifty. Percent so that's why that conspiracy 455 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 2: theory was as exciting as it. 456 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 3: IS i think just doesn't hold one. Well, also they 457 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 3: probably thought they weren't going to get any, calls so 458 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: they weren't prepping for their free throws in game, Seven 459 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: so that's probably why they missed all of that. Too shit, 460 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 3: here when did The Robert ory thing? Happen when that 461 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: was game four of that. Series here's one thing That i'll, 462 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 3: say because it all started out with The Miami Ohio, 463 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 3: state whether it be With Jim, joyce whether it be 464 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: with hand Of, god whether it be With Phil luckett 465 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: and his coin, toss those are kind of in. Dispute 466 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 3: like The Rameil robinson play THAT i brought, up nobody 467 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: has seen a foul except that official The Miami Ohio state. 468 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: One maybe it's just me and The buckeye fans that 469 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,439 Speaker 3: feel like there is still that there was past interference 470 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 3: but The Jim joyce one clear is freaking. DAY i 471 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: don't know if The rams fans would have an argument for, what, 472 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: uh you know what happened To Tommy Lee lewis of The, 473 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 3: saints who is At Nikkel Robie coleman on the on 474 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: the defensive hits on that, play but those pretty. INDEFENSIBLE 475 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: i don't know anybody who's, like you know, what that's 476 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 3: not past, interference like it was totally past. 477 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 7: Interference Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup 478 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 7: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At fox 479 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 7: Sports radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio. 480 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 3: App Fox Sports. Radio I'm Dan, Buyer He's Aaron. Torres 481 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: Sesame street helped raise all of. Us now it's our. 482 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: Turn donate this holiday season at sesame dot org because 483 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: the world Needs sesame And sesame needs. You controversial calls 484 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 3: this on the heels Of TONIGHT'S i don't know if 485 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 3: it's a, Rematch, aaron BUT i mean. 486 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: Not, you but society stop calling it happened twenty three years. 487 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Ago it's they've Played, dan correct. ME i think they 488 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: played a home and home in the regular. Season yes they, Did, yes, 489 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: yep it Was it wasn't last year Old Missing georgia 490 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: is a rematch from two months. 491 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 3: Ago. Ohios they played At miami AND i think had 492 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 3: twelve yards passing the entire. Game it was they also 493 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 3: played like prior to that nineteen ninety nine and it 494 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 3: was right when THE u was about to take off 495 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 3: again like during that, run and they crushed him at 496 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: The meadowlands In New. Jersey Jason stewart's, Here Isaac Lown 497 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: crown's gonna have an update in the. Set chrisperfette hanging Out. 498 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 3: Jason who do we got on the line in our 499 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 3: Controversial calls And? Sports? 500 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 9: Hey, Dan, Yes i've got three callers on the line 501 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 9: that are going to inform us of just through the 502 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 9: volume of, calls what we. Missed last last, segment we 503 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 9: missed on such a major one that three callers rushed 504 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 9: to their phones and Called Fox Sports. Radio we have 505 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 9: a trip In. Vegas we Have danny In Southern california 506 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 9: And matt In, kansas each of these to tell us what. Happened, 507 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 9: okay so it's a toy. THREE i think that that's. 508 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 3: Perfect that's. PERFECT i think it sounds. Perfect, hey trip In? 509 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: Vegas what what did we? Miss? Uh? 510 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 12: Two actually we missed The. 511 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 3: Okay stop, stop stop, Stop i'm, Sorry, trip you Can't, 512 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: iowa sammit like it's got one of the other you, 513 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 3: Know so it's gotta be. 514 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: Three people called in to say the same, one Tuck. 515 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: Roll the general? One is that the? One it's fair 516 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: pretty big. One, GOSH i don't mean to Cut trip. 517 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: Off. 518 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: Trip are you still, There? Danny, YES i got. 519 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 12: One, Yeah I'm i'm on THE. NFL i, mean who 520 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 12: knows That drew Blacks up takes over the next? Year 521 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 12: there is No Tom brady and And i'm still sore about. 522 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: It, yeah you guys talking over who's? It it's? Tripping 523 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 3: who CAN i take the tripping? Drip i'm tripping right? 524 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 3: Now all? Right So, Trip so you're, saying Tuck, rull 525 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: are you on the side of? 526 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 12: THAT i got another? ONE i got a better. 527 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 3: One oh, Okay, hey all, right, Okay So danny Tuck, Rull, 528 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 3: yeah you're right about the blood. Cell you're right about The, 529 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: brady absolutely the one we. Missed what's your other? One? 530 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 3: Trip all? 531 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 12: Right how ABOUT i don't know if y'all said this nineteen, 532 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 12: ninety wasn't? 533 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 3: It? 534 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 12: Uh colorado got five downs Against. 535 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 3: Missouri yes they. Did, yes the fifth down Redimption big Eight. Conference, 536 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 3: absolutely five. Downs that's, great great, call that is WHAT 537 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: i that's that was worth. It he could Have Iowa 538 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 3: sam did for bringing that one. Back there was the 539 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 3: Rocket ismael clip Against colorado later on in the college football, 540 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 3: season but that was a. Clip it was a block 541 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: in the. BACK i think that there's this Is. Aaron 542 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 3: you're not to this point, Yet, jason IS i Am 543 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: isaac maybe getting there. Soon when there's a call THAT 544 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: i felt like somebody would definitely bring up and no one, 545 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: has you're, like maybe maybe that was just too long. 546 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: Ago Don denkinger nineteen eighty Five World. Series oh, oh 547 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: we had another call in, Fact james And tacoma doesn't 548 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 3: want to be sammed. Up go, Ahead, james what did 549 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 3: you want to? 550 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 12: Say that's the wise mention In john Deak mister ninety, 551 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 12: six Calling George order safe the first. 552 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 3: Base let's hear the, Call let's hear how it. Happened 553 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: we'll swimper to the right. Side warrel races over the 554 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 3: cover that though doesn't get. Him warrell got in the 555 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: bang and an arguing Here. 556 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 7: Lance version amongst the other quartet. 557 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 12: Looks like he's. 558 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 7: OUT i don't think there's any doubt about. 559 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: It that was the, call by the, way that Was 560 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 3: Al michaels on the cause for. 561 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,959 Speaker 9: FOR ABC abcge With JOm. Palmer first of, All, chris 562 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 9: send the send that portion of this segment where we 563 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 9: had triple calls about one, thing send it to The 564 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 9: Marconi awards if he could before the end of the. 565 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 3: Show. Yeah, yeah he was not gonna defend. Myself okay 566 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 3: for The Iowas sam comment That jason, made Because jason, 567 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: said we have three, callers they all have the same, 568 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: thing so they all had The tuck. Rule that's where it. 569 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: Was that's what that's what we. Had so we had three, 570 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: callers SO i thought the third caller had The tuck. 571 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 3: Rule so WHEN i Mentioned Don, DENKINGER i did not. 572 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 3: Realize SO i was not trying To Iowa sam it. 573 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 9: Up, yeah it's a there was a lot to get 574 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 9: wrong in that whole. Thing BUT i do want to 575 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 9: say about The don dinkinshre thing because we're talking nineteen eighty. 576 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 9: Five Ron reagan was in office a long time. AGO 577 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 9: i remember it though really, well and that speaks to 578 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 9: how OLD i. Am it was the ninth. Inning it 579 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 9: was one out in the ninth inning when that when that, 580 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 9: happened and The cardinals had a one run lead in 581 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 9: the ninth and if they, win they won The World. 582 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 9: Series The cardinals would have won in nineteen eighty five 583 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: If Don denkinsher makes the right. Call there was no. 584 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 9: Replay in, FACT i was surprised That Aaron torres brought 585 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 9: up his example in twenty. Ten there wasn't a. Replay 586 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 9: So baseball's real slow to this. 587 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: Stuff i'm Gonna i'm gonna go To isaac for an, 588 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: update BUT i also Want isaac's, thoughts quick thoughts on. 589 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 3: This do you think because of how eighty six finished 590 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: With buckner that, eight that this call in eighty five 591 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 3: is completely looked over because we have. Them it's it's 592 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: not a call in The Mets Red, sox but it 593 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: is the. Play and so a year after what would 594 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 3: have been an atrocious call in a, travesty that we 595 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 3: then instead talk about The Red sox and the curse and. 596 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: Everything i'm bringing it up BECAUSE i obviously think that 597 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 3: it did that it. 598 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: Did that's a great. Question there's a couple of factors 599 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: that play into. It the first IS i suppose that 600 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 2: happened in A game six and not in A game 601 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: seven as big as it was the next. Night not 602 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: only did The royals Win game seven they wanted by 603 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: a final score of eleven to, Nothing SO i think 604 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 2: that that dissipated that a little. Bit but absolutely what 605 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 2: happened the following year was so mega iconic because of 606 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: the whole circumstances of The mets comeback and the air 607 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: and the fact that they did have to come from 608 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: behind again to win The World series two days later 609 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 2: In game. Seven but all, that as dramatic as it 610 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: was on his own on its, own was magnified by 611 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: the two major market, franchises The mets and The Red, 612 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: sox one of the legacy franchises in, sports The Red 613 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 2: sox having a chance to bust what was that at that, 614 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 2: point a sixty eight year. Curse all those factors magnified 615 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: it to be much bigger than when it happened the year, 616 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: before when you had a legacy franchise on The, cardinals 617 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: but relatively speaking to less major market cities In Kansas 618 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 2: city And Saint. 619 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: Louis it's funny we've had great college football national championship, 620 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: Games AND i still think that that one is remembered 621 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 3: for whatever, reason whether it be the, call whether it 622 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: be because it was the you at that, time because 623 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: it Was miami's winning, streak. Whatever but you, know some 624 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 3: of The Alabama Georgia National championship, games like you know 625 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: the you know the game winner To Hunter, renfro, LIKE 626 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 3: i think those sometimes get lost in the shuffle a little, 627 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: bit and this one is still remembered twenty three years. 628 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,479 Speaker 7: Later Fox Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup 629 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 7: in the. Nation catch all of our shows At Foxsports 630 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 7: radio dot com and within The iHeartRadio. 631 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: App i'm, SORRY i love The SUNBALL i, do sue, 632 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: me do whatever you. WANT i absolutely love it and 633 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: it's been a. Dandy not Only Aeron torres do have 634 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: a great game on This New Year's eve n Al. 635 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: Paso the field looks, magnificent full end zones. Painted none 636 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: of this border grass stuff that The Rose bull has 637 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: been doing for like the last decade and a. Half 638 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: quit with that. Crap just fill the whole end. Zone 639 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: fill it all with paint like the gold Of Arizona 640 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: state or the blue Of duke And Arizona states wearing 641 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 3: their's sparky. Helmets it's just a great looking. GAME i 642 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 3: love The sunball Aeron. Torres there's nothing you can do about, 643 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: it CAN i? 644 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: Say, also this is the dichotomy of the non Playoff 645 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: bowl game in twenty twenty. Five they just Showed steve 646 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: Sark keys And isaac just gave the. Score texas up 647 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty Against michigan going into the fourth. 648 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: Quarter biff The michigan interm ooj, yeah, yes as he, 649 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: said he's gonna go smoke himself to death with cigars 650 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: here at the end of this, Game Steve sarkijan looked 651 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: like he was gonna vomit on the, sideline like if 652 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: he just, knows IF i lose this, game it's eight 653 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: months of crap from my fan base UNTIL i. THINK 654 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: i don't know if they open With Ohio state next, 655 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: year BUT i know they Play Ohio state early in the. 656 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: Season it's just eight months of crap IF i lose this. 657 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: Game he looked sick to his. Stomach texas up twenty 658 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: four to. Twenty so the thrill of victory in the agony, 659 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: DEFEAT i guess still exists in The Citrus Cheese Its. 660 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 3: Bowl this show is sponsored By Draft kings sports book 661 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 3: and official sports betting partner of THE nfl AND. Nba right, 662 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 3: now use the promo CODE Cr show to claim your 663 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 3: special offer At Draft. 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Miami Aaron, 673 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: TORRES i assume your plans will include some college oops 674 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: and some buck guys And hurricanes as. Well is that? 675 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: TRUE i think most of the college oops will be 676 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 1: basically done by the time we're. 677 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 3: Off airy they could have just went with it and 678 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 3: so all, yeah that's. 679 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: He's pulling up some, tape you, know grinding out lipscomb 680 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: tape and going into the new. Year and then ALSO 681 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: i will say, Genuinely i'm excited For Ohio State. 682 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: MIAMI i think it's gonna be a great. 683 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,399 Speaker 1: Game, no it is not a rematch from the two 684 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: thousand and Two they just happen to play in the. 685 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: Postseason BUT i am very excited for the. Game and, 686 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: Yes i'll put college hoops on a SECOND tv just for. 687 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: You Dem Jason, stewart will you be partying like it's 688 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and? Two what are your plans this? 689 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 9: Day, yeah the partying days are. Over the majority of 690 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 9: my household is wrapped up in The Stranger things, phenomenon 691 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 9: and The Stranger things series finale airs at five Pm, 692 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 9: pacific SO i will be on that. Train and do 693 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 9: you know the ball dropping thing that happens this time of? 694 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 9: Year Dick clark started, it and then seventy years Later 695 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 9: Ryan seacrest started doing. It, Well dodger fans AND i 696 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 9: have picked up our own. Tradition it started a year 697 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 9: ago tonight, actually and it goes something like. This we 698 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 9: watched the ball drop, Ourselves. Chris we watch our own 699 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 9: ball drop. 700 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 11: Heating up gives sets under, dispot but The japson Can 701 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 11: hernandez get to the back before the football he does 702 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 11: on a root team, Play Aaron jigs just flubs it 703 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 11: in center field and The dodgers catch a huge break. 704 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: Right, there and a. 705 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 9: TRADITION i watch it On TikTok at least six, Times 706 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 9: Aaron judge dropping the ball his only heir of the. 707 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 9: Year game five of The World, series a ball drop 708 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 9: allows The dodgers to score five runs the less's. History 709 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 9: so here In Los angeles our own ball dropping all 710 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 9: day Until Ryan seacrest officially does it in six. 711 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: Hours here there are moments in sports where there have 712 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 3: been other drops that would be. APROPOS i don't know 713 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: if they dropped the ball seven times In philadelphia For 714 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,680 Speaker 3: nelson agelor but that could have also been a tradition 715 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: that was. Started how did we not think of that 716 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 3: for a? 717 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 9: Segment? NOW i feel the best ball Dropping Mark andrews 718 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 9: would have been topping on the LAST. 719 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: I don't think of the Ravens Lee evans had an 720 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to beat The patriots in AN afc championship, game 721 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 3: couldn't reel it? In that could be. 722 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: One it's not quite the ball, drop but remember how 723 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: the National championship game in college basketball ended a manual 724 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: sharp pump faked lost the ball and couldn't touch it 725 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: otherwise it would be a, turnover and the clock ran. 726 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: Out that was how the season. Ended that's sort of 727 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 3: a ball. Drop i'll tell you that that ending has 728 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: gotten lost in our year in. Reviews and this was 729 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 3: a final four with we had all number one. 730 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: Seeds we had All it was funny because we were 731 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: on a few weeks ago in the i think in 732 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: the earlier time, slot and we were talking about most 733 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: memorable moments of twenty twenty five AND i went With Shador, 734 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: sanders you, know you, know talk about drop dropping the. 735 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 1: Draft but the semi, FINAL i Think duke was up 736 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: twelve with six minutes to go or something like. That mm, 737 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: hmm was still one of the craziest results. Ever houston 738 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: was up reasonably big late in the, game and they 739 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: lost in that. Manner but the semi, final if you 740 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: remember it was it was pre you, know set In 741 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Stone Cooper flag is gonna play for a national championship 742 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be this huge, thing and it. Was 743 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: AND i was also sitting right behind The houston fan, 744 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: section AND i just vividly remember more the semi final 745 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: of just when the butt when everything goes, five like 746 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: hats are being thrown in the, air and it was 747 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: just this unbelievable celebration only for two nights. Later LIKE i, 748 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: Said Emmanuel sharp pump, fakes loses the, ball can't touch, 749 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: it and that's how the game. 750 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 3: Ends So chris brought up when we did we did controversial. 751 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 3: Calls you brought up The Lions cowboys wild card game 752 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 3: and the flag that was lifted Against dallas on the pass, interference, right, yeah, 753 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 3: Yeah and so that playoff run by the, way And 754 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 3: i'll always remember it because that call went against The. 755 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 3: Lions then the next week the Des bryant catch went 756 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 3: against The. Cowboys, yeah went against The. Cowboys then the next, 757 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 3: week The packers had a lead against The, seahawks only 758 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 3: to Have seattle come back in the final three minutes 759 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 3: and then end up winning it in. Overtime and Then 760 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 3: seattle lost The Super bowl Because Russell wilson threw an 761 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 3: interception at the goal On, now they're not all, calls 762 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 3: but they were all enormous significant turns for the game 763 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: where different outcomes could have happened in that playoff. RUN 764 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: i only bring that up because of what And torres talked. 765 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 3: About houston blows a lead Against. Florida duke blew a 766 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,720 Speaker 3: lead Against. Houston Texas tech blew a lead Against florida 767 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 3: in their regional final game The Arkansaw Texas tech game 768 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 3: prior in The sweet sixteen THAT i cannot stop talking 769 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 3: about because of the survivor. Pools they blew a lead 770 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 3: in that. One like there was just it was each 771 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 3: round there was something that forget. 772 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: Happened, yukon the two time defending, champions absolutely Had florida 773 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: on the ropes in the round of thirty. Two it 774 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: was like disasters here For, yukon and they were another 775 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,399 Speaker 1: ONE i think with like six minutes to go they 776 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: were up six or something. 777 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,280 Speaker 3: Like, that and it. Was it was a crazy Tournament. 778 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: Florida basically every game had a huge, comeback Including Texas, tech, 779 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: who of course before that Beat arkansas on the round 780 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: OF Us sweet. 781 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,439 Speaker 3: Sears good, memories fun. Time tournament's gonna be just around 782 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: the corner before you know. It but what is just 783 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 3: around the? Corner we gave team to The National Football league. 784 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 3: Season Aaron rodgers and The Pittsburgh steelers are home to 785 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 3: The Baltimore ravens as they play for THE Afc North, 786 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 3: crown as they play for the fourth seed in the. 787 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 3: Playoffs in THE afc playoff, picture and they play to 788 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 3: not go. Home there also could be some job statuses 789 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 3: on the. Line there's also a lot more on the 790 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 3: line as, WELL i think when it comes to The steelers. 791 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 3: Quarterback this Was Mike tomlin asked about if he thought 792 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 3: that this could Be Aaron rodgers' last. 793 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 6: GAME i don't know That i've taken time to ponder. 794 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 6: That i'm just committed to making sure that it's. Not 795 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,840 Speaker 6: he's certainly been an awesome contributor to our, efforts and 796 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,320 Speaker 6: not only from a talent perspective and an experienced, perspective 797 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 6: but just his, professionalism his relationship with the, game his 798 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 6: love for his, teammates and his willingness to help them 799 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 6: grow and get better and gain better understanding each and 800 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 6: every day has been has been cool to be a part. 801 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 3: OF i have not been the Biggest Aaron rodgers fan 802 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 3: over the last couple of, years BUT i think it 803 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 3: is a has been a rousing success for what he 804 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:03,399 Speaker 3: has done in purg and it may end up being 805 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 3: on the outside looking, in it may end up being 806 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 3: the team drops their final two games and falls out 807 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 3: of the playoff. Picture BUT i believe when you look 808 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 3: at what has happened With Aaron rodgers over the last 809 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 3: couple of, weeks in the last couple of, seasons specifically 810 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 3: the last couple of, seasons it's been a lot better 811 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: than it was than it was In New. York AND 812 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 3: i have these moments AND i don't Think Aaron rodgers 813 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 3: is ever going to be the quarterback that he. WAS 814 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 3: i don't think he has been the quarterback that he 815 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: was five years. Ago but it doesn't mean that he 816 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: shouldn't come. Back AND i think that this run that they're, 817 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 3: on AND i think if they end up bowing Out, 818 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: aaron it actually may be an opportunity For Aaron rodgers 819 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 3: to not want to end his career that. WAY i 820 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 3: think the season has been. Great maybe you'll have perspective 821 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 3: away from the, game BUT i think a lost by 822 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 3: The steelers could actually Make Aaron rodgers want to come 823 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 3: back next. 824 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: Year do you think he would be more likely to 825 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: leave if they were to make the, playoffs even if 826 00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 1: it was a short. 827 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 3: Run, yes, OKAY i feel that there would be some 828 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 3: sort of accomplishment in doing, that BECAUSE i also think 829 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 3: that he came back for himself, sure and that he 830 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 3: wanted to, play and him getting back to the playoffs 831 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: would be enough to. 832 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 11: Do. 833 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 3: SO i don't Think pittsburgh's in a window where they're 834 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 3: going to go to the Super bowl within the next 835 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 3: couple of. Years, SURE i think that as time there 836 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,439 Speaker 3: was good. ENOUGH i think that he's had good enough 837 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 3: moments and it's not a toxic building where you're going 838 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 3: to have tons and tons of sweeping. CHANGES i don't 839 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 3: Think Mike tomlin's getting fired at The steelers missed the 840 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: playoffs and just. DON'T i don't think that's going to. 841 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 3: Happen if that, happens then no Doubt Aaron rodgers is 842 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 3: not coming back next. Year BUT i don't think that. 843 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 3: Happens AND i think that if they Lose tomlin, stays 844 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: Then rogers will have a reason to stay next. 845 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: Season, YEAH i just think big, PICTURE i think it's 846 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 1: exactly what you said. IS i do think like it's always, 847 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 1: easy right with revisionist history to say certain. Things but 848 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 1: if you had just said going into the, season you 849 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: know ten and seven win THE, afc nor like like 850 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: just say ten and seven win THE Afc. North you 851 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: would have said successful. Season you just would have Because Lamar, jackson, Obviously, Baltimore, 852 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: Ravens Joe burrow will see what happens. Whatever but SO 853 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 1: I i do think there is something to. THAT i 854 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: genuinely feel more by the way we got the oh 855 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: that's Not. Jesus those Are tony The tiger frosted. Flakes 856 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: we got the frosted flakes bath In El. Paso, there 857 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: so my. APOLOGIES i thought they Were Jen. 858 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 3: Victory, Yes SO i actually kind of, THINK i don't. 859 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: KNOW i don't See Aaron rodgers as being the type 860 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: of guy that if he feels like he has something 861 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: left in the. TANK i, MEAN i don't. Know this 862 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,919 Speaker 1: whole marriage situation is. Weird we don't really know much about, 863 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 1: this you, know young. 864 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: Lady. 865 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 1: WHATEVER i just bring it up BECAUSE i could see 866 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: him coming back either. WAY i do think if you 867 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: make the, playoffs you can leave on the high note 868 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: OF i still know What i'm. DOING i Help Mike 869 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: tomlin kind of you so to a, degree kind of you, 870 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: know you don't want to say rehab his, image but you, 871 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: KNOW i, mean whatever successful, SEASON i could see THAT 872 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: i don't think losing this game necessarily definitively means that he's, 873 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: back BUT i would say overall it's probably a net 874 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: positive if they do make the. 875 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 3: Playoffs He's Aaron. Torres I'm Dan. Byer Jason stewart has 876 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 3: always had an interest In Aaron rodgers in the twenty 877 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 3: twenty five. CAMPAIGN i. 878 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 9: Do i'm a big, fan AND i think that what 879 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 9: you laid, Out dan is the conventional. Thinking and if 880 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 9: there's anyone who is going to spite conventional, thinking it's. 881 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 9: Him so he probably hears what you said about, that 882 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 9: which makes, sense doesn't want to leave on a sour, 883 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 9: note and he would probably do it just to spite, 884 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 9: you and it would all be sad BECAUSE Dk metcalf 885 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:50,160 Speaker 9: is completely responsible for the end of This steelers. Season 886 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 9: if he does not make that decision to do that 887 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 9: to that, fan then The steelers are probably resting guys 888 00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 9: this week, maybe and now we're looking at possibly end 889 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,399 Speaker 9: their season and The hall Of fame career Of Aaron. 890 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 9: Rodgers it's just, said. 891 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,319 Speaker 3: Do you think that's WHAT Dk metcalf's then legacy would 892 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 3: be not running Down Buddha baker in a game In 893 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 3: arizona On Sunday night. Football oh, yeah oh, yeah it 894 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 3: would be ending the career Of Aaron rodgers because he 895 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,879 Speaker 3: wasn't there to get his three catches for twenty four. 896 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 3: Yards that would be deserving if that was his. Legacy, 897 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: YES i think that there's no doubt THAT Dk metcalf 898 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,879 Speaker 3: would have been valuable against The Cleveland, browns especially when 899 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 3: you only score six. POINTS i think that this game 900 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 3: against The ravens is completely. Winnable. Now Lamar jackson was 901 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 3: back at. Practice it was practicing, today so that's at 902 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,000 Speaker 3: least a better sign for The ravens and what his 903 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 3: availability is going to. Be you're right about the unconventional 904 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 3: thing That Aaron rodgers. Does but does going through and 905 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 3: winning THE Afc north provide motivation or does none of 906 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,919 Speaker 3: that then just? Matter if my point is conventional and he's, 907 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: Unconventional is it justs just deciding if he wants to 908 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 3: hang out With Mike tomlin for another six? MONTHS i, 909 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,800 Speaker 3: mean could that come down to it? 910 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: Essentially AND i think the other variable with, it AND 911 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 1: i mean to cut anybody, off but like is exactly 912 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: what you. SAID i don't think there's a lot of 913 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: internal pressure in that, building, right SO i think if 914 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,319 Speaker 1: it Was, hey if it was basically The Green bay, 915 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:22,719 Speaker 1: situation if it Was, hey just so you, know we're 916 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: taking a quarterback first. Round you can come, back you 917 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,240 Speaker 1: can do whatever you. Want but it's, like is anyone 918 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna Tell Mike tomlin you have to take a? Quarterback 919 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: is anyone else Coulda is anyone gonna tell him you 920 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 1: gotta sign a young? 921 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: Backup you gotta. 922 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,720 Speaker 1: Know SO i don't think That Mike tomlin feels pressure 923 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 1: to make any sweeping changes regardless of whether they win or, 924 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: lose and so in, TURN i also don't think it 925 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 1: puts much pressure On Aaron rodgers if he does decide 926 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: that he wants to come, back winner. 927 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 3: Loses and the decision is solely On. Rogers now we 928 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 3: can say that it's on The, steelers but The steelers 929 00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 3: have given every indication that they want him back next, 930 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 3: year and if a change was, made then THAT'S i 931 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 3: Guess steeler ownership saying that they don't Want rogers back next, 932 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 3: year because there's no Way rogers comes back next year 933 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 3: with a new coaching, staff and if they were to 934 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,800 Speaker 3: have a new general, manager that's just not going to. 935 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,479 Speaker 3: HAPPEN i just don't see The steelers who have stuck 936 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: By Mike tomlin for so long in this era Where 937 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 3: i'm getting so increasingly frustrated over what have you done 938 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: for me? Lately And aaron laid it out earlier when 939 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 3: we're talking about these the. Odds it's drove me crazy 940 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 3: to see That Drake MAY'S mvp odds got better because 941 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 3: he played well against The. JETS i think that's. Ridiculous 942 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks, ago The bills kept him 943 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 3: pretty much in check and what was one of the biggest. 944 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 3: Games it's not the biggest game at the time for 945 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: The patriots in this. Season so now if The patriot excuse, 946 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 3: me if The steelers were to go back on everything 947 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,239 Speaker 3: that they have been for for, forever basically with The 948 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 3: rooney family and how they've treated, coaches to respond to 949 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 3: these two games in The jason's, point then to respond 950 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 3: when you have a wide receiver who makes a boneheaded 951 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 3: call to swipe out a fan on the, sidelines he 952 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 3: gets a two game. Ban if that's then with all 953 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,560 Speaker 3: of those, circumstances you are reasoning to get rid Of Mike, 954 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 3: tomlin because that's what's happened in the final two weeks 955 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,239 Speaker 3: that would be. Absurd SO i don't think you're gonna 956 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 3: see the last Of Aaron. Rodgers jason disagrees in terms 957 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 3: of the Unconventional Aaron rodgers and his, decision BUT i 958 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 3: think that he's got at least enough there to give 959 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 3: it a second thought and have a good enough time 960 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 3: with these. Guys, jason AND. 961 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 9: I think you're alluding to like he also has gas 962 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 9: in the, tank AND i think That Aaron rodgers might 963 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 9: be the type that goes against your again conventional. Thing 964 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,479 Speaker 9: Remember Tom brady when he came back for that last 965 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 9: year and it was. AWFUL i don't think that gets 966 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 9: enough credit for being how gross it, was how he 967 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 9: was just getting hit, around and he was going through a, 968 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 9: divorce and he looked like he had aged twenty. YEARS 969 00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 9: i Think Aaron rodgers maybe looks at something like. THAT 970 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 9: i think he would be the guy that would walk 971 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 9: away a year, early then a year. Late and because 972 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 9: he has impacted winning as recently as a couple of weeks, 973 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 9: ago like he's playing very well and maybe you know 974 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,320 Speaker 9: he probably does have gas in the. Tank he seems 975 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 9: like a guy that would walk away knowing he had 976 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,359 Speaker 9: that gas in the tank as opposed to everybody else 977 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 9: who's done the. 978 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 3: Opposite, Right, oh go, Ahead. 979 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: Aaron, NOW i was just gonna, say really, quickly are 980 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,239 Speaker 1: you surprised how quiet it's, been BECAUSE i, think on 981 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: the one, hand you'd Say Mike, tomlin he keeps everybody in, 982 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: Check antonio blah blah. Blah BUT i mean you think 983 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 1: about when he was with The jets and correct me 984 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: If i'm. WRONG i don't Think Aaron rodgers does McAfee. 985 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 1: Anymore like it was like every week When Aaron rodgers 986 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: was with The, jets there was some, headline AND i 987 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: JUST i DON'T i don't feel like it's like one 988 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: of the ten, biggest like biggest storylines in THE nfl this, 989 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:51,280 Speaker 1: Year drake mayon the, whatever The, Patriots Ben, Johnson Michael 990 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: parsons when he was out. There it's, LIKE i, Just 991 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: i'm JUST i am genuinely shocked at how quiet it 992 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: has been With Aaron rodgers And, PITTSBURGH i. 993 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 3: Would, say AND i would say this In rogers. Defense 994 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,200 Speaker 3: rogers kept things pretty quiet In Green, bay even though 995 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,760 Speaker 3: there were things rumbling at the end and maybe him telling, players, 996 00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 3: yeah come get me Or i'm going to be available 997 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 3: at you, know the, offseason whatever the deal. Is but 998 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,360 Speaker 3: The jets chaos Was jets. Chaos, sure Like rogers ruptures his, 999 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,360 Speaker 3: achilles there's nothing he can really do the home possibly 1000 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 3: come back and play if they have a. Playoff maybe 1001 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 3: that was a bit, dramatic but that wasn't the chaos 1002 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 3: that was in the. Building like The jets produced that 1003 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 3: on their own with their ownership and and you know 1004 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 3: at the time With sala being fired, early that was 1005 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 3: none of His so in his defense there there wasn't 1006 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 3: any of. That BUT i also Think Mike tomlin probably, said, hey, 1007 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 3: man we don't want you to do, McAfee and To 1008 00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,359 Speaker 3: jason's point About rogers being, unconventioned all these probably like cool, 1009 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,319 Speaker 3: man you know you matter IF i do it once 1010 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 3: or or, whatever and then just went along with it 1011 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 3: because of the respect that he has For Mike. Tomlin, sure, 1012 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 3: no it's. Fair