1 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirchen. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkchen And Dad, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: I'm just now returning from a trip to Boston, Boston, Massachusetts, 4 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: where we celebrated my wife and her twin brothers early 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: thirtieth birthday, in. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 2: Which I also you see this shirt? Was that? Say? Uh? Oh? Dad? 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: Getting his glasses on Fenway Park established nineteen twelve, that's right, 8 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: home of the Boston Red Sox. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: I bought a shirt because we took a Fenway Park 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: tour while we were in town. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: Dad, Well, so cool, you've already done that. How did Emily? 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: And how did Emily enjoy it? Oh? Loved it? Thought 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: it was so cool. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: I mean, she has become such a baseball fan in 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: the last couple of years and hearing the history of 16 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: the game, the history of the Red Sox at Fenway Park, 17 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: and it's so interesting because she's never been to a 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: ballpark that is that old, right, so right, it's the oldest, so. 19 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 2: Open the week the Titanic seg that's how old Fenway 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: Park is. 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's oldest park in Major League Baseball. Wrigley 22 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Field is next, and then they had a big trivia question, 23 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: and our entire group, eight of us, just kept looking 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: at me every time there was a trivia question. What 25 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: is the third oldest baseball park, which is Sonders Stadium, right, 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: So I. 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Was able to get that right. 28 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: I kind of I didn't want to start stealing the 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: tour guide's thunder here because I knew all of the 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: big answers as to what was going on the red 31 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: seat in right field Ted Williams, of course, like I 32 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to steal his thunder, but they kept looking 33 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: at me asking me to raise my hand. 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: And try to answer the question. 35 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: So I tried to keep a low profile dad on 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the Fenway Park tour. 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm proud of you. What was Emily? What was 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: her takeaway? What fascinated her most about the trip to 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: the Fens. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: Well, a number one thing was they were setting up 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: a stage for the Jonas Brothers concert that night. So 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: the most fascinating thing at the moment for her was 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: thinking that Kevin Nick and Joe would be at Fenway 44 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: Park that evening. But other than that, we were sitting 45 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: during the tour. We sat in seats that have been there, 46 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna make sure, I come close to the date, 47 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: like the seats have been there since nineteen thirty four, 48 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: the same original wooden seats. 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: Which was unbelievable to think of. 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: Your dad, my grandfather growing up in Watertown, Massachusetts, absolutely 51 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: sitting in those seats as a high schooler. 52 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy? It's crazy that place is so old 53 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 2: and it's so what did she think of the Green Monster? 54 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: That must have she must have said something, because I 55 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: remember Jared Ratty bigger than she thought it was. 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: And we went up and were on the Monster seats, 57 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: which was really cool, and she kind of said, oh, 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: if we ever went to a game, we got to 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: sit up here, And I said, everybody wants to sit 60 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: on the Monster seats. They're the most coveted seats in 61 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball arguably. So she loved it. And we 62 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: found out why they built the Monster. Do you know 63 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: why they built the Green Monster? 64 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: Yes, Jeff. They had such a small amount of room 65 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: in which to build the stadium that they had to 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 2: shoehorn it in to the land, and the only way 67 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: to do that was to keep left field really close 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: to home plate, and in order to do that, they 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: built a thirty seven foot high wall. 70 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Well, and here's the detail the tour guide gave us too, 71 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Dad that it wasn't originally a monster, right it usually 72 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: it's not thirty seven feet tall. 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: The whole time. They actually built it taller. 74 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: The owner did because there used to be a car 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: dealership across the street and home runs. 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Were regularly hit over the. 77 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: Then ten foot wall and crashing into vehicles, and then 78 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: the owner had to pay for the repair of the vehicles. 79 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: That I can't pay for these vehicles anymore, so they 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 1: built the wall up. 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: So nobody could hit it over, right. But Mark McGuire, 82 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 2: I've told you this story before. Jeff famously, during the 83 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: height of his career, hit a ball over the wall 84 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: and it smashed the windshield of a car and went 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: right into the guy's front seat. Okay, Now, the kicker 86 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: to the story hit it off of Zane Smith, by 87 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: the way. But the kicker is is that the guy 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 2: had locked his keys in the car. This is like 89 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: late nineties, so we don't have all these gadgets now 90 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: to open up your car from the car dealership. He 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: was trapped without his car keys. And then Mark McGuire 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: hit a home run that broke his windshield and he 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: was able to retrieve his car keys, and then he 94 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: brought the ball somehow to Mark maguire, who's signed it, 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: something to the effect of I'm glad I could save 96 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: your car keys or something like that. I mean, that 97 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: actually happened, like it can't happen, but it's true. Jeff 98 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: the Wall, I'll never forget. Jerry Fraley, Hall of Fame 99 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: baseball writer, went there for the first time in nineteen 100 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: eighty six and we're standing on the field at Fenway 101 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Park before a World Series game. He'd never been there, 102 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 2: and he looked at me in these typical frails and said, 103 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: do they take that thing down when the game starts? 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: That's what he That's how close left field is there. 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: And Jeff, I'm going to tell you a story that 106 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: I've never told publicly. But this is wildly self serving, 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: but I'm going to tell it anyway. Nineteen eighty six, 108 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: I'm covering the Orioles for the Baltimore Sun and Earl Weaver, 109 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: the famous great manager, irascible Earl Weaver, the Mickey Rooney 110 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: look like. Earl Weaver says to me, he says, you 111 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: think you could throw a ball off the left field 112 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 2: wall at Fenway Parker. We're standing in the on deck circle, 113 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: so I'm not even throwing it from home plate. But 114 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: Earle starts yelling at me. You cover the team, you 115 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: think you know everything. He's half joking with me. He goes, 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: do you think you could throw a ball off the 117 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 2: left field wall from right here? So I have to 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: take him up on it, and I say, yes, I 119 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 2: think I can throw a baseball off the left field 120 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: wall from the on deck circle, which was closer to 121 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: leftfield wall. It's three hundred and nine feet away. I 122 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 2: don't even think it's that long technically, so I the 123 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 2: next day. The next day, I had to put my 124 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: money where my mouth was. Now keep in mind, Jeff 125 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: I got challenged on this by Earl Weaver, the Hall 126 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: of Fame manager, so he was late to the ballpark 127 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: the next day, so Cal Ripken cal Junior's dad was 128 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 2: in was therefore put in charge of this challenge. And 129 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,559 Speaker 2: I threw a ball off the left field wall from 130 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: the on deck circle, which was roughly a throw of 131 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: I want to say, two n eighty five to ninety 132 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 2: feet and I hit the wall, and Earl got there 133 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: like twenty minutes later and said, because we bet some 134 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: some ridiculously low amount of money. He looks at Senior 135 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: and goes, well, what happened, and Cal Sor looks at 136 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Earl and goes, the kid did it. And it was 137 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: really I'm not sure what to make of the story. 138 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm going to tell the story publicly 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: for the first time in forty years. But Larry Sheets, 140 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: Larry Sheets, who son, Gavin Sheets plays for the Padres. 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: Now Larry hears about this bet and he goes, you're 142 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 2: not actually going to try to throw it off the wall? You? 143 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: And I said, well, yeah, I think I can do it. 144 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: I said, you don't think I can do it. He goes, 145 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: you can't do it. I can't do it, and he 146 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: said if I can't do it, you can't do it. Well, 147 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: of course, Larry Sheets could throw a baseball farther than 148 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: I can. But Jeff, you know in my I could 149 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 2: still throw a baseball at age sixty eight. I threw 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: it off the wall from the on deck circle and 151 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: Earl Weaver had to pay off a loss. And Cal 152 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: Ripken was the umpire in this situation to determine if 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: I hit the ball, hit the wall in the air 154 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: or not. And I did. 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: It's impressive. It's very impressive. How high up the wall, 156 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: not that it matters, go I'm there. 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: There's padding there, Jeff, that goes up about I would 158 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: say eight feet or something to protect the outfielders. I 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: threw it above the padding. Wow, I'm pretty sure I 160 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: threw a baseball three hundred feet in the air, which 161 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 2: I already knew I could do that because I'd done 162 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: it before. So it wasn't like I was taking on 163 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 2: something that I had no idea what I was doing. 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: So that That's my incredibly terrible self serving story about 165 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 2: Fenway Park. And this is the first time I've ever 166 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 2: told this to anyone, that I'll tell you this much. 167 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: You have a podcast, now it's okay to tell stories 168 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: about yourself. This was one of the biggest things we 169 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: had to get over when we first started the podcast. 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: This isn't just a baseball podcast. 171 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: In fact that now we even say to friends and 172 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: people who listen, this is a father son podcast about baseball. Right, 173 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: The thing that comes first is father and son, and nothing, 174 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: and I mean nothing is more relatable than when you 175 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: are challenged with an athletic competition or a bet. 176 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: You have to try. You have to try it. Absolutely. 177 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: I didn't just get challenged, hip. I got challenged by 178 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: Earl Weaver, who told me you have no chance to 179 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: do no chance, no chance. So I won the bet. 180 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: So you did it? All right? 181 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: All right, well dad, let's jump into Major League baseball. 182 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: Tell us what are your takeaways of what's been going 183 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: on the last couple of days? 184 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: All right, just a few things. Jeff cal Raley hit 185 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: homers forty eight and forty nine. Okay, same game. So 186 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 2: now he has more multi homer games nine than anybody 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: in the history of the Seattle Mariners, including Ken Griffy Junior. 188 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: In one season. He has the most homers forty nine 189 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: of any primary catcher, passing Salvador Perez of the Royals. Okay, 190 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: the only switch hitter who has more homers in a 191 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 2: season is Mickey Mantle, who had a fifty four and 192 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 2: a fifty two homer season, and cal Raley may wipe 193 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: all of that out. So we've been talking about this 194 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: all year, Jeff, and there on Sunday, two more homers. 195 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 2: He did it. It's incredible and he's on his way 196 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: potentially to winning the MVP. But Jeff, I've been asked 197 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of times is this the greatest season 198 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 2: ever by a catcher? And I'm sorry, I'm just not 199 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 2: ready to go there yet. Okay, you know, Johnny Bench 200 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy two won the MVP and had a 201 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: war that is significantly higher than cal Rally's, although cal 202 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 2: Raley hasn't finished with the season yet, okay. And Mike 203 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 2: Piazza had a war in nineteen seventy seven that is 204 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 2: significantly higher than cal Raley's, but again, he's not done yet. 205 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: Ops plus Jeff is a real reminder and a real 206 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: interesting statistic. Johnny Bench's ops plus in nineteen seventy two 207 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 2: was won sixty six, which is essentially what cal Rally's 208 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: is right now, and Mike piazzas in nineteen ninety seven 209 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: was one eighty five. So I'm still not ready to 210 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 2: call this the greatest season ever by a catcher, but 211 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: it's in the conversation, and it might be if he 212 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: has a great final five weeks. I love the big Dumper. 213 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to take down Aaron Judge when 214 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: you're batt in three twenty four right him, he's having 215 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: a heck of a season with forty home runs himself. 216 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: But we'll see how it shakes out. 217 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: So you're voting for the nl MVP, so no one 218 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: can get mad at you if one or the other 219 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: wins the AL MVP, because it's not up. 220 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: To you, right, And you gotta be careful. You can't 221 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: be telling everyone who you're gonna vote for, because that 222 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: defeats the purpose of a secret ballot. And we you know, 223 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 2: it comes out in the middle of November, not at 224 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 2: the end of September. Okay, right. Justin Verlanders struck out 225 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: now has three thy, five hundred and fifteen strikeouts and 226 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: he passed who on the all time strikeout list. Remember 227 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: who you're. 228 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Talking to here, Jeff Well, I mean it has to 229 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: be proud alum of Walter Johnson High School, Tim Kirkshan 230 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: talking about Walter Johnson, who. 231 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 2: We try to get into every episode of Is this 232 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: a great Game or what? And we're pretty darn close 233 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: to doing that. Yes, And again, there's no comparing the 234 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: eras Jeff. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's almost apples and oranges. 235 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: But Justin Verlander has twenty six complete games in his career. 236 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: Walter Johnson completed twenty six or more games in eleven 237 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: consecutive seasons, so eleven straight years he had as many 238 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: or more complete games as Justin Verlander has had in 239 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: his career. Not a criticism of Justin Verlander, this is 240 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: the game that we play today, but the durability of 241 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 2: Walter Johnson needs to be recognized. And with his next shutout, 242 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: Justin Verlander will have ten okay in his career, Walter 243 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: Johnson has one hundred and ten, so with his next 244 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 2: shutout he will draw within a hundred shutouts of Walter Johns. 245 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: I have a feeling he won't pass him for shutouts 246 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: or complete games in his career. 247 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: He's not gonna app Also, speaking of complete games, Jeff 248 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: I checked today thirteen teams do not have a complete 249 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: game this year, so almost half the teams of the 250 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: major leagues do not have a complete game. The record 251 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: is thirteen teams without a complete game set in twenty 252 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: twenty two. So if the thirteen teams that don't have one, 253 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: if there are no more complete games, we will tie 254 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 2: a major league record. This speaks to a much bigger issue. 255 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: What are we going to do about getting the complete 256 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: game back in the game. I won't see a couple 257 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: back anytime soon. I just found it interesting that we 258 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: have tied a record right now, and maybe if somebody 259 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: completes a game, we won't set we won't keep the 260 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: tying of the record. 261 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is relevant because you know, you mentioned how 262 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: many teams are don't have a complete game yet We're 263 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: coming to the end of the season, and tell me 264 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Is September and October the greatest months when 265 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: it comes to all things sports. You've got the beginning 266 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: of the college football season this weekend, You've got the NFL, 267 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: You've got baseball race for pennants, and then the playoffs 268 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: September and October. And then I mean, just selfishly, I'm 269 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: not a summer guy, so I love fall weather so 270 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: like it's just so perfect. 271 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: Right, And basketball the NBA starts, yeah at least, and 272 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: hockey starts in September, and we have the Ryder Cup 273 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: this year. I mean, it's right, It's gonna be an 274 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: absolutely fabulous month. And October is my favorite because it's 275 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: baseball playoffs. It's great. 276 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: And speaking of the Ryder Cup, we should probably tease 277 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Tiger Woods on the podcast. I'm just kidding, 278 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: Dream Guests, Dream Guests, not a chance. We've only talked 279 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: about Tiger Woods almost as much as we've talked about 280 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Walter Johnson on this podcast. 281 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: We have a better chance of getting Walter Johnson than 282 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: we do getting Tiger Woods. And Walter Johnson died in 283 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: nineteen forty six. Okay, all right, Jeff. Last thing, The 284 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Brewers had a tribute to Bob Uker on Sunday and 285 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: it was just beautifully done. We love Bob Buker. Anytime 286 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: we get a chance to talk about him, we should so. 287 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: Jeff nineteen ninety eight. I want to say I made 288 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: a speech at the Brewers mid Winter Banquet and Bob 289 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 2: Uker was the EMC, and he was the funniest EMC 290 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: in the history of EMC's. He absolutely just wing the 291 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: whole thing, didn't have anything written down, made everybody laugh 292 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: from start to finish, and I made I was the 293 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: guest speaker that night, which was very nice. But the 294 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: story behind that, Jeff, is it was taking place in 295 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: January and I'm flying out of Washington Dulles and I'm 296 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: thinking it's snowing like crazy. There is zero chance that 297 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: this plane is going to take off. So you know 298 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: how scared I am about being late to the airport. 299 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: I said, all right, I know this flight's going to 300 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: be canceled. I gotta go to the airport anyway, because 301 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: I'm making a speech there. I gotta be there the 302 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: night before. So I get to the airport finally, after 303 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: battling my way through the snow, I get to the 304 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: gate and I say to them, are you telling me 305 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: this flight is still on? And they said yes, and 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 2: that flight took off Jeff from Washington Dulles to Milwaukee. 307 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 2: And I am not making this up. I was the 308 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: only person on the flight. And I mean this thirty rows. 309 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: There must have been one hundred and twenty seats maybe 310 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: more on this airplane. But I said to the stewardess, 311 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: I said, the several stewardess is because there were four 312 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: more stews though there were me on the plane four 313 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 2: to one. I said, why are we taking off if 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: only one person is going? And she said, well, we 315 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: have to be there tomorrow to bring people back, so 316 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: the crew has to go. So I was the only 317 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 2: person on the plane. I got unlimited snacks and I 318 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: got an entire canna die coke because I was the 319 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: only person on the plane. Did they? Did they? 320 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: When you boarded and you weren't an elite member and 321 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: then a premium member boarding group one? 322 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: It was boarding group two. No, it was the groups. 323 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 2: It was boarding one, because that's quite what it was. 324 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: Boarding one person. 325 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: That was me boarding Tim Kirkshin. Tim Kirkshin board the plane. 326 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: But they didn't tell you, like, sir, sorry you booked 327 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 1: the I alt not the window. 328 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 2: Can you please go into your seae? They told me, thankfully, 329 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,719 Speaker 2: you could sit wherever you want. So only person on 330 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: a gigantic airplane. All right, that's funny. All right, dad, 331 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: What do you have for the Courtins right now? Well, 332 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: a listener named Todd Addington got me curious about something 333 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: Nathan Church of the Cardinals. Todd wrote me and he said, 334 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,479 Speaker 2: Nathan Church scored a run, drove in a run, and 335 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: stole a base before he got his first major league hit. 336 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: He sounds odd to me. Whence the last time it happened? Well, 337 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't, so I called Frank at the Elias. And 338 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: as it turns out, as always, Jeffins, none of these 339 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: things are as odd as you think. Because baseball provides 340 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 2: oddities all the time. So Pete crow Armstrong in the 341 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: MVP race in the National League twenty twenty three did 342 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: the same thing. He get this. He went oh for 343 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 2: fourteen but scored three runs, drove in a run, and 344 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 2: stole two bases before he got a hit. So the 345 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 2: answer Todd, You're very curious, thank you question is Pete 346 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: crow Armstrong in twenty twenty three, and he went fourteen 347 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: at bats without getting a hit, but had all sorts 348 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: of runs, RBIs and stolen bases. 349 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: I forgot that we gave you access to Great Game 350 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: or what dot com if people wanted to ask questions 351 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: to you. So I emailed this question from Todd and 352 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: he emailed me back. Sorry, Jeff, your dad already asked 353 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: me the same question. Now I'm over two on questions 354 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: I've asked Frank from the Elias. 355 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: All right, all right, speaking of the Cubs, no box 356 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: for the Cubs this year, zero box, Okay, balk is 357 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: a relatively rare thing. But and the last time a 358 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: team went through a whole season without a box was 359 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 2: the Mariners in twenty twenty two and the Rangers in 360 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, So it's less unusual than I thought 361 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 2: it would be. What I didn't know, Jeff, was I 362 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 2: looked up the most box ever by a single pitcher 363 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 2: in baseball history, and Steve Carlton, the greatest picture in 364 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: the history of the of the Philadelphia Phillies, had ninety 365 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: bocks in his career and second most is Bob Welsh 366 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: with forty five, So he had twice as many boks 367 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: as the next guy on the list. The Steve Carlton, 368 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 2: of course, was left handed. Jeff, he had a good 369 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: pickoff move, so a lot of times when you know 370 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 2: he stepped to the plate instead of stepping straight to first, 371 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:10,719 Speaker 2: he got called a bock. Ninety bocks Bob Welsh, second 372 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: forty nine. I was surprised to see that also, Jeff 373 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 2: through Sunday. The Cardinals, who used to run the bases 374 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 2: like crazy in the in the crazy eighties, they have 375 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 2: five triples the whole year. Five triples the whole year 376 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: at the low total of the last team to play 377 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: one hundred or more games in a season and finish 378 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 2: with five or fewer triples, where the Blue Jays in 379 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: two thousand and seventeen. So there are sixteen individual players 380 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: with at least five triples this year, led by sixteen 381 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: from Corbyn Carroll of the Diamondbacks. So and it serves 382 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 2: and Jeff, the all time record for triples in a 383 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 2: season is thirty six by Owen Wilson in nineteen twelve. Now, Jeff, 384 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: Owen Wilson Meet the Parents is an actor, of course, 385 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 2: and that inspired me, which we'll do in a few 386 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: minutes on is this great game? Or what the All 387 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: Actor slash Baseball team? So you got about twenty minutes 388 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 2: to come up with your list, I've already got mine made. 389 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: And there's some fun names on the list, say the 390 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: least led by Owen Wilson, one of our three outfielders, and. 391 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: Dan, you know, Owen Wilson is the voice of Lightning 392 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 1: the Queen, Yes, in the movie. 393 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: Cars right, which I watched this morning with Carson Keenahan 394 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: because he's sick home from school on Monday and I 395 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 2: had to sit with him till mommy came home. And 396 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 2: so yes, we were listening to Owen Wilson, right. So, Jeff, 397 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: we had some really cool names this week. We had 398 00:22:54,200 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Braxton Fulford of the of the Rockies, faced Braxton Ashcart 399 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 2: of the Rockies. That's first time A Braxton faced a 400 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: Braxton in Major League history. The pitchers of record the 401 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 2: other night for the A's and the Mariners were Tyler 402 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: Ferguson and Caleb Ferguson. First time ever that two guys 403 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: whose last name is Ferguson were the pitchers of record 404 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: in the same game, and one that was pointed out 405 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: by many of our listeners who are very clever. Jeff, 406 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: I'm so impressed. We had the Jack Dryer pitch for 407 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: the Dodgers against Gavin Sheets, so we had the dryer sheets. 408 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: In fact, that's so beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the 409 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 2: first time this year they faced each other. We recognized 410 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: this before, but every time it happens, I think we 411 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 2: need to do a shout out for the drier sheets 412 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: or sheets dryer at bat. 413 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean that could be an October matchup too, Yes, 414 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: so we got to keep an eye on that for 415 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: a play off dryer sheets. Which, Dad, if you and 416 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: I were to go head to head on a playoff 417 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: washing of clothes, I think you'd take me down. You 418 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: are one heck of a laundry man. You do not 419 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: mess around in a laundry room, Jeff. 420 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 2: I I like to do the laundry. Not that I 421 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: enjoy it, I just I just hate the thought. It's 422 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 2: like old dishes. It's like dish, dirty dishes in the sink. 423 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: Gotta get rid of it. And it's like dirty clothes 424 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 2: sitting all over the house. Can't do it, get rid 425 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: of them. Let's wash them, fold them and put them back. 426 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: I love doing the dishes, love it, Love it so much. 427 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: I love loading a dishwasher. Don't love unloading a dishwasher. 428 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: And it ends up being my job in the mornings 429 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: before I go to work, So I'm unloading a dishwasher 430 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: at four fifteen. Have you ever tried to unload a 431 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: dishwasher in a kitchen that sits beneath a nursery for 432 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: a baby? 433 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: That's an Olympic sport? No, Jeff, I never, it's dad. 434 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: I have to do one plate at a time. You know, 435 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: normally you would take two plays. It's maybe with one 436 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: hand and they kind of clang and then you put 437 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: them in. Then two plates, right, Nope, it's one one, yeah, 438 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: because I don't want to make too much noise and 439 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: make anybody up. 440 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 2: Jeff, I taught you to be as quiet as a butler, 441 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 2: and you're very good at it. So you do work 442 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 2: around the house without waking up everybody in the house. Yeah. 443 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: And the only thing is I do have very loud footsteps. 444 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: Have you ever been accused of having a loud footstep. 445 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty seven pounds this morning, Jeff, No, 446 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: no loud footsteps for me. Good for you. Welcome up 447 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: my shoes. I'm like an elephant over there. Yeah, seven 448 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 2: and a half shoe, one hundred and thirty seven pounds. 449 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 2: I don't make much noise. I'm really really nifty on 450 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 2: my feet. 451 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you 452 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: have for us? 453 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: All right? Nineteen eighty seven, Paul modlors thirty nine game 454 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 2: hitting streak ended. It's one of the longest hitting streaks 455 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: in Major League history. Paul Maldor was a great hitter 456 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: that year, and the streak ended at home against the Indians. 457 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: Then the Indians and the Brewers won one to nothing 458 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 2: in ten innings. Rick Manning came up and pinch hit 459 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 2: in the game and drove in the winning run. Got 460 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: the walk off single to win the game. With Paul 461 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 2: Molitor in the on deck circle at County Stadium, and 462 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: Rick Manning told me this later, but I remember when 463 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: it happened. He got booed in his old stadium because 464 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: he hit a walk off single and prevented Paul Molitor 465 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 2: from getting another at bat that could have potentially extended 466 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: his thirty nine game hitting streak. So Rick Manning one 467 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 2: of the great funny guys and a great defensive center 468 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 2: fielder number twenty eight in his prime. He jokingly told 469 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: me I'm the only guy who's ever been booed for 470 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: getting a walk off single to win a game. 471 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: Dad, I have a on this state in Baseball hit story. 472 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: It was actually yesterday, August the twenty fifth. This was 473 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: sent in by Greg Kelly on this date, August twenty fifth, 474 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six, Bill Freehan hit his two hundredth career 475 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: home run. 476 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: Right, which is his total of his career. 477 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he hit one hundred at home and one 478 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: hundred on the road. 479 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 2: Isn't that tremendous, Jeff? That's beautiful coincidence. Now let's see 480 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: how well you remember the Bill Freean note I had 481 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: last week about nineteen sixty eight. 482 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, and I remember, and that's why it peaked 483 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 1: my Oh. 484 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 2: Gosh, who won the side? Who won the MVP in 485 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 2: the American League in nineteen sixty eight. He won thirty 486 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: one games for the Detroit Tigers. Denny McClain. 487 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: Oh, and they are the only pitcher catcher to fish 488 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: one two one. 489 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 2: Two MVP voting. How great is that? Bill Freehand? I 490 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: told you very underrated player. Two hundred homers. I did 491 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 2: not know. I knew he had two hundred. I didn't 492 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: know one hundred home, one hundred road. So good. We 493 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: love to see that, Okay, Jeff? On this date last 494 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,919 Speaker 2: year where Danny Jansen became the first player ever to 495 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: play for two teams in the same game. Played for 496 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, game was suspended, joined the Red Sox, 497 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 2: so he appeared in the box score for both teams, 498 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: first time that had ever happened in Major league history. 499 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: He was very funny talking about that. How many phone 500 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: calls he's gotten, right, And the first thing he did 501 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: is look at the schedule. It said, oh my gosh, 502 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 2: I got a chance to do this. Do you remember 503 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: who we called last year and talked about this. Remember 504 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: we called Joel Youngblood on the phone. Joel Youngblood's claimed 505 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 2: the same was what Jeff, he got a hit? Oh? 506 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: He got a hit in two different for two different 507 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: teams on the same Dame to day. 508 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: Right, he was traded and he was in the air. 509 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 2: He was in the air. He had to take three 510 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: care rides to get to Montreal on time. When he 511 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: got there at nine oh five, ten minutes later, ten 512 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: minutes after arriving in the locker room, they put him 513 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 2: in a game and he got a hit. And remember 514 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 2: what Joel Youngblood said, kind of kidding, kind of kidding. 515 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 2: He said, that guy's trying to break my record. He 516 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 2: didn't break my record. No one's ever gonna do what 517 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: I did. No one will ever do what I did again. 518 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: And he kind of joked, but he was pretty serious 519 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: that no one's going to get two hits for two 520 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: different teams and two different states in the same day. 521 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: That's what Joel Youngblood did. Also Jeff Birthdays nineteen eighty five, 522 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: David Price was born. I still get a kick out 523 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: of David Price, former Cy young winner, very good major 524 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: league pitcher long time. Had a dog named Astro, which 525 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: I just thought was the funniest thing, so typical. I 526 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: love dogs names. I said, David, what's the deal with 527 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: your dog Astro? What's that from He Goes the Jetsons? 528 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: What else? I said, David, You're way too young to 529 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: know what the Jetson's all. I grew up watching the 530 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: Jetsons cartoon in the sixties. I know who Rastro is 531 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 2: and all that he goes. I love the Jetsons. I 532 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: watch it all the time. So here we had a 533 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: baseball player born in nineteen eighty five who named his 534 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 2: dog after Astro from the Jetsons. You find that interesting 535 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 2: at all? I love it? 536 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: But I mean I thought he was going down the 537 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: theme of what my dogs had been. My first dog 538 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: was Pirate. First dog my wife and I got Pirate, 539 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: and now we have a Ranger after we lost Pirate. 540 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: So I already told my wife we're gonna have to 541 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: keep up the theme with whatever dog we get next. 542 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: And at the rate of likability that Ranger has in 543 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: our household, that could be coming sooner rather than later. 544 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, that, Jeff, this is so interesting you 545 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 2: would bring that up. Guess who was born ten years 546 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: on this date after David Price was born my dog Pirate. 547 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding who Rangers for it? Oh? No way, 548 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: today is his birthday. So Emily's favorite player Rager Suarez 549 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: that you named Rager your dog after was born on 550 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 2: this date in nineteen ninety five. 551 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. She loves Ranger Suarez. It's 552 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: ultimately why we named our dog Ranger. And she saw 553 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: a clip on social media, Dad of a Philadelphia sports 554 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: talk show saying. 555 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if Ranger has it for. 556 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: You know, a full season. He starts hot and then 557 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: he ends up getting cold. Will he be able to 558 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,959 Speaker 1: do this for a full year kind of thing? And 559 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: she basically said to me, don't don't let them talk 560 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: bad about my guy. 561 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: That's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Ranger Suarez love it. 562 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 2: That's great. All right, So those are the this date 563 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: in baseball history, Jeff for August the twenty sixth. 564 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: Well, before we get to our team Tim Dad, which 565 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: I know you're really excited for with the actors' team Tim. 566 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: All after Owen Wilson. Right, Owen Wilson. We should quickly 567 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: up that. 568 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: Tomorrow on the podcast, we'll have ad Nan Verk back 569 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: for the second time he's appeared on this show. He's 570 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: got a new book out, It's Ciniphile, and you know 571 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: he is not only great with MLB Network and so 572 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: many other things. 573 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: That guy is so busy. 574 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: He does a great job former co worker with my 575 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: dad at ESPN. 576 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 2: But he's also a movie buff. 577 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: He's interviewed some of the biggest names, including Robert de Niro, 578 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: which we get to talk to him about that experience 579 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: and so much more so. 580 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 2: Just he is so far beyond a movie buff. I'm 581 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 2: not sure I have ever quoted a movie line. And 582 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 2: I tell you how terrible I am at things, and 583 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: it's all true. But I'm decent at some of the 584 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: movies that I love. I can remember important funny lines 585 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: from them. But I have never thrown a line at 586 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: ad Nan where A he didn't know what I was 587 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: talking about, or B he couldn't figure out what the 588 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: next line was. He is a genius when it comes 589 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 2: to movies and everything that goes with it. I don't 590 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: know how he does it, but he's a great guest. 591 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: He was on last year with us. He made us 592 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: laugh so hard, and he's gonna make us laugh again tomorrow. 593 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's hear your team, tim A la 594 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: Owen Wilson, the All Actors team. 595 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So Will Smith of course is our catcher and 596 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: remember a few years ago in the World Series we 597 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 2: had Will Smith facing Will Smith. The other Will Smith 598 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: is the relief pitcher Will Smith. So, Jeff, this happened 599 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: to me. I went to Braves camp several years ago, 600 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 2: and it was the night it was the night after 601 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 2: or the morning after Will Smith slapped somebody? Who did 602 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 2: he slap Chris Rock? Slap Chris Rock in the face 603 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 2: at the Oscars? Was it at the Oscars or the Emmys, 604 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 2: ascut Oscars? You're right. So the next morning I'm in 605 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 2: the Braves clubhouse and I'm talking to Will Smith, the 606 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: relief pitcher, Will Smith. And I finished with all my 607 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 2: work in the clubhouse and I go to do Busters 608 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: podcast and his first question out of the box was 609 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 2: what'd you think of the Will Smith situation? And I said, boy, 610 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're talking about, but I just 611 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 2: got done talking to him. Well, he meant the slap 612 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 2: on the face of Chris Rock, and I didn't even 613 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: know about it because I didn't stay up late enough 614 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 2: to watch the Oscars. I didn't check anything on Twitter, 615 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 2: so I thought he talked he was talking about the 616 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: left handed pitcher Will Smith of the Braves. Instead, he 617 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: was talking about the actor who slapped another actor. So 618 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: Will Smith is the catcher first great start to a 619 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 2: team right there. First. Yeah, and that's the best one. 620 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: All right, We're not getting any better that. It's go 621 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: all downhill from here. Anthony Rizzo is the first baseman there. 622 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,760 Speaker 2: The actor Anthony Rizzo appeared in the movie, among others, 623 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Heartbreak Ridge, So that's good. The first player ever to 624 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 2: hit four home runs in a Major League game is 625 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: Bobby Lowe. But his nickname is I mean, his first 626 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 2: real first name is Robert, so we're gonna call him 627 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: Rob Lowe. I know it's a stretch, but that's okay. 628 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: Our third baseman is Russ Johnson. He goes by Russ 629 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 2: Johnson and Russell Johnson. So we're taking the liberty here. 630 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: Played that the professor Roy Hinkley on Gilligan's Island. Okay again, Jeff, 631 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: I've told you repeatedly I know three things in the 632 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: world baseball, basketball, and sitcom from the sixties. So Roy 633 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: Hinkley is the name of the professor on Gilligan's Island, 634 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 2: and his real name is Russell Johnson. And by the way, Jeff, 635 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 2: little known fact the professor who was a genius, went 636 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: to four different colleges in his career. This was said 637 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: on one episode of Gilligan's Island. He went to UCLA, USC, SMU, 638 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: at TCU. How about that. That's incredible. Only I would 639 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: remember something. That stupid shortstop is Jimmy Stewart, famous actor. 640 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 2: G of course, Owen Wilson is our outfield one of 641 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 2: our outfielders. Samuel Jackson played eighteen seventy one and seventy two. 642 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 2: That's about all I know about him. But Samuel Jackson 643 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: we so good, right, legend? And Eddie Murphy played for 644 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 2: a World Series Championship team in the outfield in nineteen thirteen. 645 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 2: The Philadelphia A's Mike Myers was a relief pitcher and 646 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 2: a pretty good one. I see Mike every once in 647 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: a while. And of course, Mike, what's your favorite Mike 648 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 2: Myers role? Jeff, is it Austin powers By are right? Well? 649 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's tough because he also Shrek and 650 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: he was the voice of Shrek and that's one of 651 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: the most legendary animated films ever. 652 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: Right, Mike Myer's unbelievably talented guy. Yes. And Eddie Fisher, 653 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 2: who was an actor back when Nn and Pop were 654 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 2: growing up. He was also not the same guy. A 655 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: relief pitcher, a pitcher for the White Sox. So that's 656 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: my whole team. Will Smith, Anthony Rizzo, Bobby Lowe, Russ Johnson, 657 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart, Own Wilson, Samuel Jackson, Eddie Murphy, Mike Myers, 658 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 2: and Eddie Fisher. I did that in one morning, Jeff. 659 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 660 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you had told me that you were working 661 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: on it, Dad, and you know, to me that kind 662 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 1: of made me a little nervous because you said you 663 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: did it this morning. 664 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 2: But that was I'm actually very impressed, very impressed. I 665 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: had to take some shortcuts here with Bobby Lowe and 666 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: with Russ Johnson, but anytime you can get the Professor 667 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 2: Roy Hinkley on the show, that would be good. By 668 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: the way, Mary Anne Saunders, Ginger Grant, Jonas Grumby was 669 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: the skipper, and Gilligan was just went by Gilligan no 670 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 2: last name, and Thurston Howel and Lovey Howell were also 671 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: on the show, of course, and the famous story there, Jeff, 672 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 2: which I've told you before. Carol O'Connor really wanted to 673 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 2: be the skipper on Gilligan's Island and did not get 674 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: the part Alan Hale did. And then the big next, 675 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: big part for Carol O'Connor was Archie Bunker, one of 676 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 2: the great sitcom characters in the history and maybe maybe 677 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: the most important sitcom character ever, given the controversial role 678 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 2: that he played. 679 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: So, Dad, there's one I want to add here, yes, please, 680 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: A small role but also a Hollywood director, the aforementioned 681 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,240 Speaker 1: David Price Rhyme's birthday. 682 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 2: He was on Fast Times at Ridgmond High. Very good, Jeff. 683 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: I had him down here and I just thought I 684 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 2: should have put it in there. But I saw that 685 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 2: today in my research, I saw. 686 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 1: Very small actor, very small role, Jeff. 687 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 2: There are no small actors, no small roles. That's the 688 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 2: way I always look at. Isn't that what you used 689 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: to teach me when you were doing parts in high 690 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 2: school and stuff like that? Yeah? 691 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen, any role I played was small 692 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: because all my characters were the goofy, short little guy 693 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: on nicely nice to Johnson, total goofball, Right, Like, I 694 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: played small characters, right, They were big roles, but small characters. 695 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,479 Speaker 2: Thanks for that. Okay, So that's my all actor baseball team. 696 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: Ad Nan Verk joins the podcast tomorrow. 697 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,720 Speaker 1: Dad cannot wait for this one, and I hope everybody 698 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: who's a member of the family is excited to go 699 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: to Great Game or. 700 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 2: What dot com. 701 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: Dad finally has access to the website so he can 702 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 1: respond to you directly as will I thank you so 703 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 1: much for listening. 704 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: As always, thanks for being a part of our family.