WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: So Close

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody, I'm Dan Horden. Thanks for downloading the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth podcast. So Close, So close, and yet so far. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we take an in depth look back at another

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking loss for the Bengals, as a field goal on

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<v Speaker 1>the final play of the game gave the Arizona Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty six twenty three win at Paul Brown Stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, locker room comments from

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<v Speaker 1>players and coaches, and Dave Lapham will join me for

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<v Speaker 1>postgame analysis. Plus, in this week's Fun Facts Conversation, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>meet the person under the pads as I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>the best ping pong player on the Bengals roster. Stay

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<v Speaker 1>tuned to find out who it is. All of that

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<v Speaker 1>is straight ahead, but first, here's a quick reminder that

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<v Speaker 1>since the Wilson Junior size football. I've got a thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old son who loves running pass patterns in the

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<v Speaker 1>backyard and catching passes from his old man. We are

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<v Speaker 1>currently using the Wilson brand Junior size football for ages

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<v Speaker 1>nine and up, and I am here to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>it is the easiest football to throw ever made. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a slightly smaller size and has a very tacky grip.

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<v Speaker 1>At the risk of bragging, I am a mixture of

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady and Kenny Anderson when I use it.

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<v Speaker 1>So a big thumbs up to the Wilson Junior size football.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to this week's game. For approximately five minutes

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday, the Bengals did exactly what they and we

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<v Speaker 1>have been hoping for. The defense got a three and

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<v Speaker 1>out on Arizona's opening possession, and then Joe Mixon, remember him,

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<v Speaker 1>went to work after an incomplete pass by Andy Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>on the bengals first play. Their next six were handoffs

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Mixon for nine, three, thirteen, five, eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>nine yards to put the Bengals in the red zone. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>that's where the drive stalled, an all too familiar theme

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty nineteen. It'll be a chip shot of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three yard try for Randy Bullock. Out of the hold

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<v Speaker 1>of Kevin Huber. He catches a high snap puts it down,

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<v Speaker 1>bullocks kick is on its way, it is good, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals score inside the gold star red zone. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had an early lead but left four points

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<v Speaker 1>on the board. Here's Andy Dalton, we have to score touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't keep kicking field goals. You're not gonna win

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<v Speaker 1>games if you've kicking field goals. So Fro, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>look at it. We gotta see what we can do

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<v Speaker 1>better in the red zone because I mean, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>score touchdowns on there. On that opening drive, it felt

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<v Speaker 1>like Mixon was going to have a career day, but

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<v Speaker 1>after rushing for fifty seven yards on his first six carries,

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<v Speaker 1>his next seven went for a total of six yards.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to offensive lineman Trey Hopkins about Nixon's fast start.

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<v Speaker 1>We finally got a consistent string of runs and we

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<v Speaker 1>ran on first down and we're a fishing with this,

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<v Speaker 1>so we were able to keep keep going with that.

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<v Speaker 1>With that drive, m it was nice, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we had a couple of instances of that, uh this game,

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, being efficient on first down, run or

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<v Speaker 1>pass um helps a lot, helps a lot. But as

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive lineman, of course, being a run or being

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<v Speaker 1>able to run the ball is nice. Did they make

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<v Speaker 1>big changes x's and o's wise up front to slow

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<v Speaker 1>that down, or did their guys just start making better plays? Um? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're they're they're good front. They get paid also,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just they just made some place um and

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<v Speaker 1>slowed us down a little bit. But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a long game, and I mean, both sides of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball are getting paid. Both sides of the ball have

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<v Speaker 1>good athletes, so it's it's a battle. The Bengals early

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<v Speaker 1>three nothing lead didn't last time. Their second possession, the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals drove to the Cincinnati six, where they faced fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and two. Rather than kick a tying field goal, head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Cliff Kingsbury elected to go for it. Fourth down

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<v Speaker 1>and two at the Bengals six yard line, Cincinnati leading

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<v Speaker 1>three nothing, Murray hands it faked it to Johnson, sprints

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<v Speaker 1>out to the left. He's got the first down. He

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<v Speaker 1>lurches toward the end zone, and it's a Cardinals touchdown.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first lead of the season. The Cardinals were

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<v Speaker 1>the only team in the NFL that had never held

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<v Speaker 1>a lead this year. Yes, even the Dolphins led for

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<v Speaker 1>nearly four minutes in the first quarter before losing by

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<v Speaker 1>twenty last week to the Chargers. The Bengals and Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>traded field goals in the second quarter before Arizona added

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<v Speaker 1>another one on the final play of the first half,

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<v Speaker 1>one second left in the half, a chip shot field

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<v Speaker 1>goal for Gonzales. Game kick is good and Arizona will

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<v Speaker 1>take a seven point lead to the locker room. Arizona

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<v Speaker 1>led thirteen six at the half, and that field goal

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<v Speaker 1>means that Bengals opponents have scored in the final two

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of the first half in twenty eight of the

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<v Speaker 1>bengals last thirty seven games. That's seventy six percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Hard to believe. Stat courtesy of Jay Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>who covers the Bengals for the Athletic. Andy Dalton was

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<v Speaker 1>four for ten for a paltry twenty two yards in

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<v Speaker 1>the half, but the Bengals got their passing game going

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<v Speaker 1>to begin the third quarter. Andy was seven for ten

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<v Speaker 1>on the opening drive of the second half, but after

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<v Speaker 1>having first and goal at the eight, the Bengals failed

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<v Speaker 1>to score a touchdown again. The snap, the put down,

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<v Speaker 1>the spin of the laces, The kick is up and

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<v Speaker 1>it is good for the season. The Bengals have scored

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<v Speaker 1>four touchdowns on fourteen drives into the red zone. That's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine percent. Not nearly good enough. According to Tyler Boyd,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really you know, open my finger on it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but that's a difference in the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not scoring touchdowns. You know, game three three point three points.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't cutting to any how you went football games

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<v Speaker 1>to any how you get to the playoffs. Despite the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone war, the Bengals were only down by four

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<v Speaker 1>with less than two minutes to go in the third

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<v Speaker 1>quarter when a curious play call proved costly. On fourth

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<v Speaker 1>down and one, Dalton is in the shotgun mixing. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we'll shift from the quarterbacks left to his right, Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>fake to Mixon. He does not get back to the

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<v Speaker 1>line of scrimmage. He has lifted off the ground like

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<v Speaker 1>he was crowdsurfing short of the first down. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that hindsight is twenty twenty, But why teams

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<v Speaker 1>don't just run a quarterback sneak on fourth and short

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<v Speaker 1>is a mystery to me. It seems like a shotgun

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<v Speaker 1>snap increases the defense's chances of getting penetration into the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>But what do I know? The fourth down stop gave

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona great field position, and a former Bengal made them

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<v Speaker 1>pay third down and seven for Arizona to thirty nine

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. Murray clapping his hands, he catches the shotgun.

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<v Speaker 1>Snapp he floats it down the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm diving attempt. What a catch. Wow at the eleven

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<v Speaker 1>yard line by Pharaoh Cooper. The former Bengal, albeit briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>just made a spectacular diving catch Farrell. Cooper played for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals in Week one, then got waived after Week

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<v Speaker 1>two when they needed an extra offensive lineman. Here's safety

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Bates on Cooper's great catch. The hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>catch by whom, hell of a throw by Colin Murray

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Those players that we can we can live

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<v Speaker 1>with long they don't score on those. Now there's the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of good athletes, good players. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make plays, but we just gotta, you know, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>those aren't happenings as much that catch was the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between punting and kicking a field goal, and the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>took a seven point lead early in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 1>Things looked bleak for the Bengals when The Cardinals scored

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<v Speaker 1>again on their next drive, first and ten at the

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<v Speaker 1>thirty seven years, a toss sweep to the left, Edmond's

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<v Speaker 1>running breaks through an ankle tackle. He's down the near

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<v Speaker 1>sideline inside the ten. The five three two one touchdown Arizona. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a blow right there. That is just a shot

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<v Speaker 1>right to the chin. And again faked the handoff on

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<v Speaker 1>a jet sweep and then just pitched it back the

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<v Speaker 1>other way, and they get blocking on the edge. Larry

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<v Speaker 1>Fitzgerald gives a block and then just sloppy tackling, missed tackles.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the blocking is good in the perimeter, but man,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're the when you're the unblocked guy, make the

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<v Speaker 1>tackle like Bates was, you cannot miss that tackle. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>he did, and the Bengals were down twenty three to nine.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point. Between the Pittsburgh game and the Arizona game,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals had gone seventeen drives without scoring a touchdown,

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<v Speaker 1>a street they finally ended by driving seventy nine yards

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<v Speaker 1>on ten plays. Three receivers out to the left, Audent

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<v Speaker 1>Tate out to the right, Bernard in the backfield of

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<v Speaker 1>the right of Andy Dalton Dalton throws it into the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone, touchdown to Audent Tate. Nice the first touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>in two games for Cincinnati, as Auden Tate cut inside

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<v Speaker 1>of his defender and reeled in the touchdown catch from

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<v Speaker 1>two yards away, his first NFL touchdown of his career.

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<v Speaker 1>That made a twenty three sixteen and the defense probably

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<v Speaker 1>got a three and out to put the ball right

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<v Speaker 1>back in the hands of Andy Dalton. Bengals are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>line up quickly. They're ready to snap it at the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona forty two. This drive started back at the Cincinnati nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Dalton back to throw. The protection is good, fires dot

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<v Speaker 1>Field boar. He catches it to ten and runs into

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<v Speaker 1>the end zone for a Bengals touchdown. Me Tyler Boyd

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<v Speaker 1>damn middle of the football field. He made the play

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<v Speaker 1>earlier in the drive and then he made that play.

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<v Speaker 1>Outstanding throw. The first play of the drive was a

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine yard pass to Boyd and the last play

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<v Speaker 1>was that forty two yard touchdown pass. Tyler finished with

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<v Speaker 1>ten catches for one hundred twenty three yards. Sick of

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<v Speaker 1>losing Siga, you know, not finishing the way we want to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we always finished wrong. But we never started.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gotta just stayed of course, man, and just believing

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<v Speaker 1>each other the whole four quarters. Man. Just continue to

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<v Speaker 1>fight and execute and don't wait till the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>to finally get a going. The game was tied with

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<v Speaker 1>exactly two minutes to go, but two big plays by

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<v Speaker 1>Kyler Murray won the game for Arizona. The first was

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<v Speaker 1>a twenty four yard pass. The second was this twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four yard run second down in six at the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine with fifty three seconds to go, Kyler Murray

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<v Speaker 1>catches the shotgun snap. Now, he takes off and runs

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of running room down the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>He's at the twenty five the twenty and Clayton Federlum

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<v Speaker 1>saves the touchdown by tackling Kyler Murray at the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>yard line. The Heisman Trophy winner finished with two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty three yards passing and ninety three rushing. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Sam Hubbard. Can you describe what it's like to try

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<v Speaker 1>to contain Kyler Murray when he takes off. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>tough because you pick a side trying to win a

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<v Speaker 1>pass rush and he sees lane. He's gone really gotta

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<v Speaker 1>rush with vision, which you know slows down how you're rushing. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a tough task and what makes them so dangerous? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's hard. Do you think that's what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stopped the pass rush was? Who're trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you guys are trying to make sure you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to keep him in the pocket and make him throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and uh, you know, just try to not

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<v Speaker 1>give him lanes to get out of there, because as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as he saw something, he was out. After Murray's run,

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<v Speaker 1>the bengals only hope was that Zane Gonzalez would choke

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<v Speaker 1>on a game winning field goal, try to allow the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals to take the game to overtime. So here we go,

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<v Speaker 1>two seconds on the clock, a thirty one yard field goal,

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<v Speaker 1>try to win the game for third year pro Zane Gonzalez.

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<v Speaker 1>Lee is ready for the snap, he puts it down,

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<v Speaker 1>the kick is up, the kick is good, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona Cardinals get their first win and drop the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>to oh and five. The final score twenty six twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three Arizona. Here are two second year Bengals, Jesse Eights

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<v Speaker 1>and Sam Hubbard on falling two Owen five. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't just keep patting ourselves on the back for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having close games and fighting at the end

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. We gotta win. I know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what the fans want, that's what the guys upstairs want,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what everybody in this locker room wants. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a lot of people that continue to

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<v Speaker 1>bash us about being owned five. All that matters is

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<v Speaker 1>what's in this locker room, and it's about us. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's no option. You know, we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>games left to play, and it's a team game. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't go out there and win the game by yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to stick together and you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>keep fighting, try and get some wins. That's all we

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<v Speaker 1>can do. We can't we can't fall apart. Since the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals and Broncos both picked up their first victories on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>there are now four winless teams left in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals and Redskins are owing five, the Jets and

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins are owing four. After Sunday's three point loss, Lap

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<v Speaker 1>spent about four minutes with head coach Zach Taylor, coach

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL three of the five games. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>got a tie football game later, a lead late in

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<v Speaker 1>the fourth quarters, just can't close it out, just can't

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<v Speaker 1>quite finish it. You're right there on the on the

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<v Speaker 1>doorstep on the brink. But man, it's something has to

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<v Speaker 1>happen to just finish it. Right. You're right, we get

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<v Speaker 1>someone's just gotta step up and make that play. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's coaches. We gotta keep fighting to put ourselves and

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities where guys can step up and do it. We

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<v Speaker 1>just haven't done it yet, And um, it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>We keep believing, and no one's no one's pointing fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we got to earn these wins, and when

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<v Speaker 1>we earn it's gonna feel good. This game, it was

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of just digging a hole. It was too

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<v Speaker 1>hard to crawl out of. And you know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to give the credit about fighting back and doing that

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<v Speaker 1>and digging out of that hole. But and that's hard

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<v Speaker 1>when you dig that big a hole in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yeah, A bad team that's given up digs

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<v Speaker 1>himself in that hole and the game's over. And that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't what we were today. Our guys fought back, believed

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<v Speaker 1>they were gonna win. We scored that last touch time

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<v Speaker 1>to tie it up, and we felt like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get this stop and we're gonna go win this game.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the common theme on the sidelines, and unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>they made some plays and they got that field goal

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<v Speaker 1>and they got away with one their quarterback. You made

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<v Speaker 1>mention of it during the course of the week, Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got like quick twitch now. I mean he's short

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<v Speaker 1>space quickness. I mean, some guys can make him miss

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<v Speaker 1>but can't run away. Some guys can run away but

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<v Speaker 1>can't make you miss. This dude can make him miss

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<v Speaker 1>and run away. I mean, he's he's a special guy

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<v Speaker 1>that we're rushing for ninety yards like he did. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can make a steady diet living

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<v Speaker 1>of that being a quarterback running the football like he is,

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<v Speaker 1>But man, he makes plays. He's dangerous. He's the first

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft for a reason. He's a unique talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Really stresses the defense, and he made some place today. Again, Horizontally,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to be everybody's trying to challenge, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your defense, making it defend from one sideline to another

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<v Speaker 1>with motion, missdirection, counters, all that sort of thing difficult

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<v Speaker 1>today as well, wouldn't it. But I go back, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to score with once the first half, take the

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<v Speaker 1>pressure off him because really we go in a halftime,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're routinely keeping these guys to ten points and under,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we gotta be a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>aggressive on offense and get things going and score some

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<v Speaker 1>points and take the pressure off him going in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. I know it's never one thing, but in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind, as you as you will reflect back on

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<v Speaker 1>not just this game, but other games, red zone seeming

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<v Speaker 1>like the twilight zone a little bit. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think the biggest things are in the

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<v Speaker 1>red zone? Well, when the up twos come our away,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta we gotta take advantage of the players that

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<v Speaker 1>they're there. And so far we kind of had two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks from a row. We've left some points in the

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<v Speaker 1>field that we feel like, uh, we just got to

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<v Speaker 1>step up and make that play and keep working to

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<v Speaker 1>get us in the best calls that give us opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>And but you're right, that's been frustrating leaving all those

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<v Speaker 1>points on the field. You guys do a good job

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<v Speaker 1>of controlling those edge rush guys. But there were times

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<v Speaker 1>where it was like two three man routes. The touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>to tile it looked like it was maybe a two

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a three man route. I mean, you had that

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<v Speaker 1>schemed out pretty well. You wanted to make sure you

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<v Speaker 1>had time to get the ball down the field vertically

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, you're right, that was one that takes

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more time. So we don't make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we keep people in protection. And you know, we got

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<v Speaker 1>two receivers out plus the back plus you know, um

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<v Speaker 1>that that group is they're pretty good edge rushes. We

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<v Speaker 1>talked about I think Andy get hit and the touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>drive before the drive that tied it. They were blitzing.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't playing pre event. They were bringing bringing pressure

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<v Speaker 1>and he's getting rid of the ball, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>taking taking a hit and uh, you know he was

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<v Speaker 1>when you blitzed. There's there's areas of vacated and he

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<v Speaker 1>was finding those things. Yeah, there was he had some.

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<v Speaker 1>They were bringing their best stuff. They got a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good blitz package. That's where our third down package were

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move the ball on the perimeter a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Take the pressure off those guys. Up front. He stood

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Yeah, they brought their best stuff. We protected

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<v Speaker 1>as best we could. He took a couple of shots,

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<v Speaker 1>but m guys started making plays there in the fourth quarter. Finally, coach,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect you to tell us what you're telling

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<v Speaker 1>your team. You know, that's that's between you and your

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<v Speaker 1>football team. But what what kind of message you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do you give your football team right now? Working like

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<v Speaker 1>they're working, and just coming up short like they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep fighting. We believe in each other, We believe in

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing. The wins are going to come. It's

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<v Speaker 1>frustrating that hasn't happened yet, But but we got the

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<v Speaker 1>right people in this building. That's good that help us

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<v Speaker 1>get it done. Now time for some postgame analysis, and

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<v Speaker 1>we start with an obvious point. The Bengals can't show

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<v Speaker 1>up in the last five minutes and expect to win games.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Zach Taylor's mesters of the team. The guys

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<v Speaker 1>that I saw in the last five minutes, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to do it earlier than that. Fifty five minutes of

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<v Speaker 1>not getting it done, very very disappointing. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>dug too big a hole. That's a huge hole in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League. How about Arizona throwing the football

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<v Speaker 1>in their last two drives. They gave the Bengals a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>They ran the ball for two hundred and sixty six yards.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would have had my two threats, Murray

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<v Speaker 1>and Johnson just run the ball, run the clock. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they're giving the Bengals a chance by throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and throwing in completions. You know, I couldn't believe that

0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:26.320
<v Speaker 1>they were allowing that to happen. But you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals took advantage of it and scored two touchdowns to

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<v Speaker 1>make it a game, tie the football game up, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know when they had to, Arizona ran the

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<v Speaker 1>football again a little bit and ran the clock down

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<v Speaker 1>and kicked the field goal. So very unfortunate. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred and sixty six yards rushing average over seven

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<v Speaker 1>yards to carry. They had Murray and Johnson both run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball for over ninety yards. Joe Mixon ran it

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<v Speaker 1>for over ninety yards. He came one rushed sword and

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<v Speaker 1>I said if he had twenty carries, they'd win the game.

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<v Speaker 1>He had nineteen, but you know, could have won the

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<v Speaker 1>football game. Just didn't play well enough, you know, made

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<v Speaker 1>their value had come back effort, obviously, but you can't

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<v Speaker 1>rely or depend on something like that in the national

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<v Speaker 1>football You're gonna come up short more times than not.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Joe Mixon's day. Six straight running plays

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<v Speaker 1>on the opening drive for fifty seven yards. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he was going to have the biggest game of

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<v Speaker 1>his NFL career. Then for the next two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half quarters, the Cardinals completely shut him down before he

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<v Speaker 1>got it going again late in the game and wound

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<v Speaker 1>up with ninety three yards on nineteen carries, six rushes

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<v Speaker 1>for fifty seven. Then he goes seven rushes for six,

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<v Speaker 1>then he goes three for twenty three to start the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. So he's you know, it's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a roller coaster ride. I do think after that

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<v Speaker 1>first drive, you know, Arizona said, all right, look, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna let you run the football. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to throw the football. You're down a bunch of receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've got two good edge pass rushers. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make sure that you don't get that running game

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<v Speaker 1>going the way you've got to go on that first drive.

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<v Speaker 1>They stayed in based defense, but they did. They made,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some minor adjustments. I think that in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of technique and attacking line of scrims, raving catching at

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<v Speaker 1>the line of scrimmage that looked like to me. And

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<v Speaker 1>they got a lot more aggressive and said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to throw the football some and not

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<v Speaker 1>just run the ball down our throats. But again, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>red zone, I mean, it's the twilight zone. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>They just can't can't get it done in the red

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<v Speaker 1>zone when they needed to get it done. And last

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<v Speaker 1>year they're converted over thirty one percent of the time

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<v Speaker 1>for touchdowns in the red zone. They were third in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL in that category, and now they're in danger

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<v Speaker 1>of being, if not dead, last, second last in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>I think in red zone touchdown percentage. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line lap After giving up eight sacks and

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<v Speaker 1>twelve quarterback hits against the Pittsburgh Steelers, Andy Dalt was

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<v Speaker 1>not sacked. Did you see significant progress? I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>significant scheme change. Tyler Eifert was in too pass protect gives,

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Vanni Bernard was in too pass protect. I mean, they

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of max protection and they did not

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<v Speaker 1>want those edge rushes to control the football game, which

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<v Speaker 1>I can understand. The running game I think helped out

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit too. But on you know, the drive,

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<v Speaker 1>the last touchdown drive and ty Or Boyd caught his

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<v Speaker 1>forty two yard touchdown pass, they had two receivers in

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<v Speaker 1>a route and just leaked it back out late. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they had you know, seven maybe six or

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<v Speaker 1>seven defenders covering two guys. It was, it was crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But the scheme of the play, you know, one the

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<v Speaker 1>day they gave the route that was going to take

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<v Speaker 1>some time, so they wanted to max protect to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they had the time and hope that the

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<v Speaker 1>that the scheme of the play would would work. And

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<v Speaker 1>it did. Tyler Boyd was wide open. They blew coverage

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<v Speaker 1>and score forty two yard touchdowns. So you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think that at times when guys were asked

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<v Speaker 1>to block one on one, they did a good job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think schematically they changed things up a lot

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, the defensive end getting slammed by a

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<v Speaker 1>tight end one time, chip by running back another time

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<v Speaker 1>and hitting him from all angles and didn't just not

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<v Speaker 1>a tie off straight line to the quarterback like that

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, we have seen fast running quarterbacks in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL before Michael Vick obviously comes to mind. Lamar

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson right now, I'm not sure that I've seen one

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<v Speaker 1>as shifty when he takes off and runs as Kyler Murray.

0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I think Michael Vick falls into that that category a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I mean RG three was a straight line

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<v Speaker 1>track guy. He was a hurtle champion. You know, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have the you know that short space quickness that

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<v Speaker 1>you know that dipsy due to him. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is fast twitch. You know, some guys can

0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 1>make him miss but can't run away. Some guys can't

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<v Speaker 1>really make him miss but can eventually run away. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy can make him miss and runaway. I mean he's special.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, he's as good as a lot of running

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<v Speaker 1>backs in the NFL. You know, you wonder though at

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback position. He's got some design runs and some

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<v Speaker 1>runs where he's just scrambling. I mean, the one run

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<v Speaker 1>that was huge was when Lawson went up field hard

0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:38.040
<v Speaker 1>and Gino took an inside rush and he saw a

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<v Speaker 1>lane that just was too tempting. I mean he saw

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<v Speaker 1>a green grass and just hit it, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>hit it. He hit it right now. He is explosive

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.919
<v Speaker 1>in terms of his feet and his strong arm, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's accurate. I mean he put the ball in some

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<v Speaker 1>tight spots and got to tip your cap to the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's really you know, he's really a fine quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you just can't give up two n

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<v Speaker 1>in sixty six yards rushing in the National Football League.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care who is a quarterback and running back.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't do it. The Bengals didn't score a

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown in the Pittsburgh game and didn't score one in

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<v Speaker 1>this game until four minutes and eight seconds to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they scored two in a span of two minutes

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<v Speaker 1>and eight seconds. Is there a logical explanation for why

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to just flip a switch and suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>be productive on offense? You know, I asked that the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. And you know the touchdown drive before the

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<v Speaker 1>one that tied it up. I mean, Arizona was bringing

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<v Speaker 1>their blitz packages. I mean they were coming and he

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<v Speaker 1>was taking hits and just getting rid of the football.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like they were playing pre event defense. Is

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<v Speaker 1>saying check it down. I mean they were they were

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<v Speaker 1>bringing their stuff and the Bengals picked it up, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, then Tyler Boyd has two big plays and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, one of them forty two yard touchdown. Two

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<v Speaker 1>receivers were out in that route. They were so concerned

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<v Speaker 1>with blocking the edge guys and they should sugs and

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<v Speaker 1>Chandler Jones, and then the backs slid out late, slipped

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<v Speaker 1>out late. But there's a little roll to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>little throwback to the left, you know, beyond the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the football field, and fooled to safety. And he

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<v Speaker 1>could fooled badly. Tyler Boyd was huge. Jette last drive.

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<v Speaker 1>You ended up with ten catches for one of one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred yards, but his first five catches I think went

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<v Speaker 1>from like twenty five and then he really turned it

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<v Speaker 1>on at the end, as did Andy Dalton. I mean,

0:23:09.160 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton's first half numbers nothing to right hold home about.

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:14.199
<v Speaker 1>But as the game ended, he's got a quarterback or

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<v Speaker 1>any one oh seven point six twenty seven out of

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight two sixty two, two touchdowns, no interceptions. After

0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.399
<v Speaker 1>the game, Zach Taylor made a point to walk around

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<v Speaker 1>the locker room to go up to every guy in

0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>front of his locker, embrace him, say something to him.

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure I've seen that before. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>say to you about Zach Taylor and the relationship he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build with these guys. Yeah, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the big word is, you know, relationships and culture and

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>all the things that go along with that. But man,

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<v Speaker 1>just got to win games. At some point, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to win a football game. And three of their five

0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:49.840
<v Speaker 1>games they've either had a lead or have been tied

0:23:49.920 --> 0:23:51.760
<v Speaker 1>late in the football game. Two on the road, one

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<v Speaker 1>at home, and right now they're over. They're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to really examine. Every player's gonna have to examine it.

0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Every coach is gonna have to examine it. What can

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<v Speaker 1>I do to that one more player that we need?

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<v Speaker 1>And so far it hasn't happened. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>everything's a habit, winning is a habit. Losing can be

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<v Speaker 1>a habit, and you fall into the bad habits. It's

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>hard hard to get rid of those bad habits and

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>then start establishing the good habits. The first thing you

0:24:17.080 --> 0:24:18.960
<v Speaker 1>have to do it establish a good habits to winning game,

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, and right now they're in a you know,

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a vicious cycle of a bad habit of losing football games.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it be close football games or games that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>so close. Up next, a road game in Baltimore and

0:24:32.280 --> 0:24:38.320
<v Speaker 1>another speedy quarterback in Lamar Jackson, not Johnson. The Ravens

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.000
<v Speaker 1>are three and two after an overtime win in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. Now time for this week's fun Facts interview,

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<v Speaker 1>where we get to know the person under the pads.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, it's a member of this year's rookie class, who,

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<v Speaker 1>among other things, is known for being the best ping

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<v Speaker 1>pong player on the roster. Time for some fun facts

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<v Speaker 1>at Bengals quarterback Ryan Finley, and it takes about five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes of lazy internet research to find out that you

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<v Speaker 1>basically have excelled in any sport that you have ever played. Football, basketball, tennis,

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<v Speaker 1>ping pong. But let's start with hockey, specifically roller hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>You were on Team USA as a kid. That sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like a pretty big deal. Tell me about it. I

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.119
<v Speaker 1>just grew up. That was kind of my first sport.

0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Grew up playing hockey. My dad played. He grew up

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>in Minnesota, so that was kind of his sport played

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<v Speaker 1>since I was a really young age and loved it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't I don't really even remember when what

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<v Speaker 1>age I was when I was on Team USA, it

0:25:37.119 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 1>was I was pretty young, but it was fun. I

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 1>think actually hockey has helped me a lot and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of just uh, you know, playing sports throughout my life.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>really great things about playing hockey. So that was a

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<v Speaker 1>fun time. Did Team USA travel a love it? Yeah,

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:55.720
<v Speaker 1>we actually went to we went to Canada. Was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like our big international tournament that went over, So

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was that was a big deal at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. Does your dad still play hockey? Absolutely, he plays, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he plays a lot. He plays ice hockey most of

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>the time, but he also will play roller hockey too.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Roller hockey is a little bit more fun, uh And

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<v Speaker 1>and I think me and my dad's opinion just because

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>you play four and four and there's it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more um, a lot more puck handling and kind of

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:26.640
<v Speaker 1>a more I think more skill. I guess you could

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<v Speaker 1>say at that at their level, um, you know, in

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>ice hockey is just a little bit more kind of

0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:34.920
<v Speaker 1>bashing and dumping the puck in and you know, more strategy,

0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>I guess where or roller hockey is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more of just the skill set behind it. You're from Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>You're on a state championship basketball team, had a thirty

0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.600
<v Speaker 1>seven point game apparently where you didn't miss a single shots.

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 1>You did miss one shot, so that that has been

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 1>incorrectly reported. That was I don't know where that came from,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>but I missed one shot. Yep. I was like thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>for fourteen or something like that. All right, we are

0:26:58.960 --> 0:27:01.760
<v Speaker 1>setting the records. Great for people to see that online.

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 1>But in any case, it sounds like you could have

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<v Speaker 1>played college hoops. Why did you choose football? In my mind,

0:27:08.000 --> 0:27:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I like to tell myself I could have. I'm gonna

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.479
<v Speaker 1>go with that. The other day I die. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if if I really could have or at what

0:27:15.080 --> 0:27:17.639
<v Speaker 1>level I could have, but um, we're gonna go with that.

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>So we're definitely gonna go with that. Well, you definitely

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>chose wisely. You had a great college career and now

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.680
<v Speaker 1>you're playing in the NFL. You started your college career

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<v Speaker 1>at Boise State, and before you ever got started there,

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.520
<v Speaker 1>you had to have rotator cuff surgery. Freshman year of

0:27:31.560 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 1>college is hard period when you go there and you

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>can't really take part in the thing that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to school to do. How difficult was that? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think just the you know, the timeliness of kind of

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 1>what happened, just being hurt in that time period where

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be making friends and showing what you

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<v Speaker 1>can do, you know, at the next level and kind

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>of being in that red shirt program and lifting weights

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 1>and getting strong. So I kind of I kind of

0:27:57.200 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 1>missed out on that, which was deaf only hard on

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>me kind of starting so I got off to a

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.919
<v Speaker 1>rocky start, but you know, it's all worked out and

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.399
<v Speaker 1>my shoulders you know, been healthy, so it was it

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.400
<v Speaker 1>was a very successful recovery. So you know, everything happens

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:14.359
<v Speaker 1>for a reason. So I was definitely looking back on

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>it was a it was a good experience. You overcame

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>that and then your red shirt sophomore year, you won

0:28:19.280 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>the starting job only to break your ankle in week three,

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and I read an interview where you more or less

0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:28.200
<v Speaker 1>admitted you didn't handle that very well. No, I mean

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I just had I had tried, you know, so hard

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to come back and recover and then it's just like

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>game three getting hurt. Um. You know, just the kind

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:39.600
<v Speaker 1>of the situation was was one that, uh, you know Brett.

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>We we knew, you know, I was going to play well.

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>We knew Brett was going to play well, and so

0:28:43.680 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>it just kind of it turned out how it did.

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>But uh, you know, having said that, it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best things I think has ever happened to

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<v Speaker 1>me because I wouldn't have ended up an Anti State

0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>and my career a Ncy State, and just the people

0:28:57.400 --> 0:28:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I met there was was awesome. So I had to

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:03.000
<v Speaker 1>break my ankle to get there. But we're doing fun

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.720
<v Speaker 1>facts at Ryan Finley. So you transferred Anti State, you

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>start there for three years. What did the fresh start

0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>do for you emotionally? Um? I did a lot. I

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>think just going in I just went in with a

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 1>with a different perspective. I was hurt, and at that

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>point I just wanted to play. It was pretty simple,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>so I was just gonna do I was necessary to play.

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I think I took some pressure off myself and that

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>in that regard and just kind of wanted to literally

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>just play football. And I didn't have really, you know,

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 1>many goals outside of that, so I was just I

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>think I was just able to focus, and um, I

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>was able to you know, use some of the things

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I learned at at Boise State and my new start

0:29:42.960 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>and also just um yeah, just kind of a new focus.

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>And it helped that I knew the offense, um, and

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't something that I had to spend a lot

0:29:51.040 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 1>of time on. Uh, just you know, because my coach

0:29:54.200 --> 0:29:56.160
<v Speaker 1>went from Boise to North Carolina State, so I could

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:58.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of just come on and come in and focus

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 1>on other things. So that helped a lot. After a

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>couple of really good years at NC State, you could

0:30:02.560 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 1>have gone pro. I'm sure you would have been drafted.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You already had a couple of degrees at that point,

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>but you decided to go back with a sixty year

0:30:09.360 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>eligibility and play another year at NC State. Why did

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you want to do that? We just had we just

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.440
<v Speaker 1>had a lot of a lot of guys coming back

0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on offense, and I thought it was just it was

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of a special opportunity, and uh, why why not

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 1>one more year in college? So you know, just had

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>friends coming back. Had you know, guys like Garrett brad

0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Bear center at the time, A J. Cohler punter, and

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>just s Woody Cornwall quarterback. So just just a lot

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of friends and um, I was just a weird deal.

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I think you know when you when you have that

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>decision to leave earlier or not, I feel like you

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>can get behind the process with just you know, picking

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 1>an agent. There's all kinds of stuff, just like mentally

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>where I feel like you can get a little bit

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>behind h if you haven't made up that decision. Um.

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>So it was just, I don't know, it just it

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 1>felt better. I felt better about going back, and I

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously knew there was a lot to improve on. There

0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of team goals that we had yet

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:02.120
<v Speaker 1>to accomplis so worked out well for the Bengals. They

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.120
<v Speaker 1>drafted you in the fourth round, and after you got

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati, quarterbacks coach Alex van Pelt made a change

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>in your footwork. When you take a shotgun snap, you

0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>have your left foot forward now instead of your right,

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 1>which sounds like nothing to most of us, But it's

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>a big deal to a quarterback, isn't it. Yeah? I

0:31:19.760 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think it is. It's helped for me. I think a

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of guys just kind of fine what they're comfortable with.

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:29.480
<v Speaker 1>But I've been back and forth throughout my college career

0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 1>and kind of found that I like the left foot better.

0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, Alex has really helped me with

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of honing in on kind of what happens

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.040
<v Speaker 1>after the stance, kind of just the timeliness of the

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.800
<v Speaker 1>NFL game, which is a lot different than college. Just

0:31:43.960 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>everything's kind of based off of the timeliness of your feet.

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's helped me a lot, just be on time

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>and kind of just helps you get through your progressions

0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:55.640
<v Speaker 1>and with a little bit more ease, just kind of

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>knowing that your feet will talk to you. A few

0:31:58.000 --> 0:32:00.520
<v Speaker 1>more fun facts for Ryan Finley. Rumor has it you

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>are the number one ping pong player on this Bengals team.

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Is that the case? And? Uh? If so, who can

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>provide competition? Well, it's it's definitely the case. Um I

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I play Andy a lot. Uh So Me and Andy,

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>especially during OTA's training camp, we were playing quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit um and then we actually we went out and

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<v Speaker 1>we ordered we needed to elevate our game, so we

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<v Speaker 1>went on ordered some paddles, some nice paddles from this

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>website called Killer Spin, and um it, my game's really

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<v Speaker 1>taken off even more since I since I got that

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<v Speaker 1>new paddle. So I'm looking to in the offseason join

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a ping pong club or some some

0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 1>sort of where I can go play some pickup table tennis. Um,

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:51.320
<v Speaker 1>because really the only person I can really play is

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<v Speaker 1>is Andy here. So and Andy doesn't always he's got

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>other stuff going on. Sometimes I'm always looking for a game.

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<v Speaker 1>So uh yeah, I love ping pong and it really

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<v Speaker 1>our locker rooms really into it, which is fun. So

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 1>they got they got like a board back there where

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.800
<v Speaker 1>they're they're keeping tillies of hoops who and who on

0:33:08.840 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>what date and by how many? So it's pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 1>If I start playing again, I'm going to kill her

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<v Speaker 1>spin to make sure I have a good paddle. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a younger brother, Ben. He's a high school senior

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<v Speaker 1>and he's going to follow in your footsteps and play

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at NC State. How exciting is it for you to

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<v Speaker 1>follow him? Uh, it's gonna be super exciting. His plan

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:32.520
<v Speaker 1>is to graduate early after he finishes this year strong, um,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 1>and so that'll be fun to just have him there.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of in back my mind, my plan has always

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>been to kind of um in the off seasons, be

0:33:40.600 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>be close to Raleigh, if not in Raleigh. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all the more reason for me and kind of

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:50.120
<v Speaker 1>my family to be out that way more so, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be. It's gonna be. It's gonna be a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun, all right. Last fun fact for Ryan Finley.

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<v Speaker 1>Your birthday is December twenty sixth. My little sister was

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<v Speaker 1>born on the twenty eighth, and all we hated the

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that her birthday and Christmas we're so close together.

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 1>What about you? Um, I like it now and I'm

0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 1>cool with it now. And you know, my parents they

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.320
<v Speaker 1>never shorted me. I never felt like I got shorted.

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 1>But there were a couple of years when I was

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>younger that you know, obviously having no money, being you know,

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>twelve thirteen years old, it's basically just the money you

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get is the money you got for Christmas or your birthday.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So there was a couple of years where I celebrated

0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:33.680
<v Speaker 1>my birthday in June, like with my sister, just so

0:34:33.760 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 1>I would have like kind of a more of a

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:39.399
<v Speaker 1>steady income. I guess of of Dick sporting goods, gift

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:43.399
<v Speaker 1>cards and gift cards. So but I you know, it's

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it's fine now. I like having my birthday in December.

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the you know, you wait for

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Christmas for so long and then it's kind of that

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 1>like calm down when it's like, damn, we waited for

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.919
<v Speaker 1>two months and now it's over. That's my birthday, so

0:34:56.120 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>I get to I don't get quite as sad when

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas is over. Remember to wish you a a happy birthday

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>in the final week of the season. Appreciate your time.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. All right, that's Ryan Finley. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>remind you to come out and join us on location

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