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Speaker 2: The World's a Pigeon podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Alex Atis, maybe can chime in a little bit on

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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl some of the commercials that apparently out.

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Speaker 3: It's already brought one up that I totally missed.

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Speaker 4: Now, cousin Michelle, letn't stop talking.

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Speaker 3: So is that kind of hard?

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Speaker 5: Michelle?

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Speaker 6: I have to ask the present of the drink fan club, like,

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Speaker 6: how are you doing?

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Speaker 7: He didn't play like any of his good ones. It's

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Speaker 7: twenty verse one in the industry.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know people like teas exist.

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Speaker 7: It's done, and it just brings me so much joy

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Speaker 7: that there's a little kid in Kansas City who thought

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Speaker 7: he was about to get a three peak. It's gonna

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Speaker 7: haunt him for ten years and that just brings so

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Speaker 7: much joy to me.

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Speaker 8: Sucking like a true drink fan.

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Speaker 6: So disagree with him on Adam and Erry, Like, what

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Speaker 6: more does a kicker could possibly do? Favoritism to certain

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Speaker 6: franchises with the Hall of Fame that these vote just

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Speaker 6: typically gravitate towards until the Patriots dynasty is on par

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Speaker 6: with the other dynasties. I'm going to continue to be

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Speaker 6: pissed off about it, like Sterling Sharp getting in, Like

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Speaker 6: good player, but like, is he really you know a

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Speaker 6: guy that, oh thank god he got in. If those

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Speaker 6: were nineteen seventies Pittsburgh Steelers, they would have walked into

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Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame. And now that the Patriots, it's like, no,

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Speaker 6: we can't let those guys in.

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Speaker 8: So this goes right ouf my butt.

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Speaker 4: It is Tuesday here at j Let's Stadium, and I

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Speaker 4: haven't been here for a while. Uh so I'll just

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Speaker 4: start to show off. It's Evan, It's Paul, It's Deuce,

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Speaker 4: It's Matt and the booth. Is there any questions that

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Speaker 4: you needed me to ask last week? But because I

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Speaker 4: wasn't here, I couldn't answer having to do with the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl or halftime or the commercials or anything.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of the Super Bowl? Right it?

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Speaker 4: I had a great time. I know I picked Kansas

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Speaker 4: City to win, but the right team for Patriots Nation one,

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Speaker 4: So it was awesome. I you know, for now, the

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Speaker 4: dynasty holes defend the wall, defend the wall. The Patriots

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Speaker 4: remain at the top of the heap. Tom Brady remains

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Speaker 4: at the top of the quarterback heap. All is good,

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Speaker 4: All is good.

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Speaker 3: And how about your food? Your Super Bowl food?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I I watched by myself, so I'm good. Yeah, yeah, sad,

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Speaker 4: not really not really here. I was all good with it.

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Speaker 3: You get the whole pregame.

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Speaker 4: You watched the whole thing, the whole thing, yeah, Fox

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Speaker 4: on Bourbon Street.

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Speaker 3: Did you feel like the Chiefs were going to turn

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Speaker 4: I did? I? Well, I I thought that, okay, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna at some point get going, because that's the NFL, right,

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Speaker 4: it's you know, third quarter, late third quarter, both teams

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Speaker 4: especially in Super Bowls lately. But they had nothing. They

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Speaker 4: their offense, you know, And that's what it came down to.

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Speaker 8: So favorite commercial.

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Speaker 4: I liked the Dura cell one everybody. I thought it

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Speaker 4: one I liked the best. The Seal one was good,

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Speaker 4: that's the one I like. Dura cel was.

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Speaker 3: That the Tom Brady one where he yeah, he.

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Speaker 4: Runs out of gas and the guy comes in from yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I saw him the intro you're talking about,

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Speaker 4: But I get the kicker. As long as he gets

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Speaker 4: of the qualifications that you dominate your position in your era.

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Speaker 4: I think that was a snub. But I can wait

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Speaker 4: I do like the way Jared Allen came in on

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Speaker 8: I'll never like the Hall of Fame. No, I'll always

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Speaker 6: It's just one of those things that bothers me, Like.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to have guys go in every year.

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Speaker 5: Like, well they didn't, this is your perfect year. They

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Speaker 4: And this should be because nobody was that guy, that good.

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Speaker 3: Small hall Paul right, politics, a lot of it is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just would have had different guys like Sterling Shop.

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Speaker 5: Why did he have to go in? I mean, I

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Speaker 4: Go to the Hall of Fame, Jackson to the Hall

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Speaker 4: Anyway, So let's get to current events. Uh, we got

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Speaker 4: the combine coming up next week. I know our staff

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Speaker 3: Excited, very excited of the year combine number five for me,

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Speaker 3: very excited. I've been jumping in on all the all

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Mason Graham. You know, I was listening to Dame

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Speaker 8: But he's a good prospect.

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Speaker 8: It's a it's a tough spot. It's a tough spot

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna regret it. Does that help in his

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Speaker 4: Showing that confidence?

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Speaker 3: I mean, did you believe it when he said? Did

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Speaker 3: I just think a lot of this stuff is what

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Speaker 3: trying to improve your stock and get him up into

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Speaker 3: I just think there's two drafts right now, you're sitting

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Speaker 3: I never thought a trade down was possible last year.

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Speaker 5: not a cap casualty. That's just I don't want that

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 4: See again, I don't want to turn this into Fred

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Speaker 5: So for guys they don't want, they'll get rid of.

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Speaker 5: It says you. I will respect your wishes to not

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like, like I can agree

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Speaker 6: Available, digs maybe, Yeah, yeah, I think with Higgins gets

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Speaker 8: So if I waste Higgins that, you know, I'd be

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. I just tight ends are really intriguing.

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Speaker 6: put his hand in the dirt, that can catch the

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00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 6: football and do all those different things. And then Colston

437
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,040
Speaker 6: Loveland is like an explosive receiver that's kind of just

438
00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 6: like a giant slot receiver. And it's just a matter

439
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,000
Speaker 6: of which guy, you know, which flavor would you rather have.

440
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 6: And I think there's a conversation for both those guys

441
00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 6: in the spot for the Patriots. But in order to

442
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 6: get there, I feel like you have to address the

443
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 6: trenches in in free agency, Like you have to go

444
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,960
Speaker 6: into the draft, yeah with a leftd to go into

445
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 6: the draft with some pass rush and go into the

446
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 6: draft with all those holes filled, because otherwise it's hard

447
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,160
Speaker 6: to just pick.

448
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 4: What would you rather the Patriots get one or two

449
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:16,160
Speaker 4: of the best at their position free agents or seven

450
00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,960
Speaker 4: or eight good players and free agents. One you'd rather

451
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 4: do one.

452
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I'd rather get a Ronnie Stanley and a Chris Godwin

453
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,119
Speaker 3: and and the Dre Greenlaw and those three guys, and

454
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 3: that's it, and go like, you know, three big spots.

455
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 5: Seven or eight good players. Yeah, I don't know, but

456
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 5: I'll take seven or eight good.

457
00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 4: Players, I know. And even then, like even when no

458
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 4: matter who you get in free agency, like we've talked

459
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 4: about it before, half of them, if you get quantity half.

460
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Speaker 5: Of them award in general terms, my mindset would be

461
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 5: more like Mike. I'll you know, on my show, they say,

462
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 5: you know, give me the horse, not the ponies. Right,

463
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 5: But if you're talking about seven or eight as opposed

464
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,520
Speaker 5: to three, you know, like brock Bauers, how'd they do?

465
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,960
Speaker 5: But you know, you can't be any better than brock

466
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 5: Bauers was as a rookie tight end. Right, you said

467
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: all kinds of records, right, they stink. It's not his fault, right,

468
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 5: he's great. Yeah, but you know adding one or two, Yeah,

469
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 5: it doesn't do what it doesn't doesn't do what he

470
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 5: could do.

471
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm with Paul.

472
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 6: I would probably rather go that route and then look

473
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 6: for the ceiling in the draft. Then when you get

474
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 6: to the draft, you can really take those big swings

475
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 6: on those needle mover type players, whether it's a pass

476
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 6: rusher or pass catcher whatever. I think if they could

477
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 6: build the lines in free agency, then they can do

478
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 6: that in the draft. But it's a lot easier said

479
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480
Speaker 6: than done with the free agent market, especially on the

480
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,560
Speaker 6: offensive line. Like are you going to be able to

481
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 6: build an offensive line through free agency? I don't know,

482
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 6: especially once Ronnie Stanley gets tagged and Tray Smith gets tagged,

483
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 6: and you know, now you're getting to free agency, and

484
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 6: you know Cam Robinson is the best tackle.

485
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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, you know, I just love I just

486
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 4: love it. Though you know, the super Bowl happens and

487
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 4: the Eagles win in the trend, but they won everywhere

488
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 4: else too, by the way, But thank you Kurt. You know,

489
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 4: but all of a sudden, that's the way to do it.

490
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 4: You have to build, have to set out. It's unbelievable,

491
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 4: you know.

492
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 5: Just like last year. You have to have a unicorn, right,

493
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 5: you have to have a running just.

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's fodder for super Bowl one.

495
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 5: You need the power suite.

496
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 3: Right, It's all we talked about a little bit last week.

497
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 3: It's fodder for our discussion and that's what we say.

498
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: But does it have a real impact on the draft itself?

499
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Speaker 3: And would you say that now whereas last year maybe

500
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 3: teams were like, we got to treat up and get

501
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 3: your standers. We need to find the unicorn. I mean,

502
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 3: just now, is the reaction well, I don't know, they

503
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 3: developed Jalen Hurts. They just went for the you know,

504
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 3: best defensive lineman. Let's just take Mason Grim. You know,

505
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: like this does it? Is it tangible results from this

506
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: or is it just kind of congeesutor.

507
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:50,919
Speaker 10: I think that.

508
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 4: These personnel departments and these teams would be smarter than

509
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 4: I know. I know, right, like the recency body did

510
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: not affect them, but it's it may not be true.

511
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 6: Right, I think it's a copycat league in a lot

512
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 6: of ways. Like you we're talking about Bowers, Like those

513
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 6: two tight ends are going to fly off the board

514
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 6: because everybody's going to look at the rookie season.

515
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: That why not. No disrespect to Elliott Wolf, but Howie

516
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 4: Roseman seems to be a pretty good GM. I think

517
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 4: that's part of it too.

518
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, yeah he's on a heater it let's

519
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 5: fay everything he's searching right now, right, But I.

520
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 6: Also just like I think that Howie Roseman is a

521
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 6: testament to to consensus sometimes is the smartest way to go.

522
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 6: Like they have drafted name brand, big time program type

523
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 6: players like Jalen Carter, DeVante smith Landon Dickerson. Uh, you

524
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 6: know they're not going. They're not going to you teach Attauga.

525
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 6: You know, like they're not.

526
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 5: But not going. When I say that he's on a heater,

527
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 5: like the Jalen Carter pick is really enormous, and it's

528
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 5: not all that different to first iteration dynasty when Belichick

529
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 5: would take you know, like when you're on a heater

530
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 5: and you take Gronk when he didn't play it down

531
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: of football was last year at our owner and he

532
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 5: turns out to be the best tight end in history.

533
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 5: That's a pick that when you're on a heater and

534
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 5: you're going good works out. When Jalen Cotter, who should

535
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 5: have been probably the first overall pick, does some stupid

536
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 5: stuff in between his Georgia career and the draft and

537
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 5: falls to what ten ten I believe it, do you

538
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 5: take him? He just as easily could have continued to

539
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 5: do most stupid stuff and been in the police blotder

540
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 5: and you get nothing out of him. Instead, he was

541
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 5: the single most impactful player I watched in the playoffs,

542
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 5: you know, and I watched all the playoff games. He

543
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 5: was the most dominant player in the playoffs that I watched.

544
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 8: It's a testament to them.

545
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 5: That's that's when you live and right when you make

546
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 5: that pick, he falls in your app a, which is

547
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 5: first of all, that's a great break, and then he

548
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 5: doesn't do the stupid stuff yet anyway, and you win

549
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 5: a super Bowl, right, that's when you're living.

550
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 6: Right, testament to the program, you know, like the like

551
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 6: they brought him into a really good team and a

552
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 6: really good culture, and like they were able to so

553
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 6: far at least like put all that stuff on.

554
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, it reminds me that episode one of

555
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 4: two thousand and four Super Bowl Odyssey what's the official name.

556
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, design Episode two just dropped about a half hour.

557
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: They had the same scenario with Corey Dillon.

558
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: Yep.

559
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 4: They brought a guy who was a malcontent people thought,

560
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 4: you know, and they brought him into a program that

561
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: was established with veterans in a way about it.

562
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 5: That made that comp Yeah, and absolutely the same thing.

563
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 4: And Corey Dillon would worked out and there's some really

564
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 4: great stuff with Corey Dylon in it, So you can

565
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 4: find that anywhere you can get your podcasts. It's episode

566
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 4: one's out, episode one.

567
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: Of three, yeah, four out, one of four. Yeah, two's

568
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 3: out now and I have two more coming down the

569
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: pipeline rest of the week. But not shout out to

570
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 3: Paul and Matt who they actually did the dirty work

571
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 3: of interviewing Corey Dyllan. I know that might have been

572
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 3: a little scary for you, Paul, based on.

573
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 5: The Oh it was great.

574
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 4: Was he was terrific.

575
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 5: I told him, yeah, I told him you you were

576
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 5: literally one of three guys in that locker room. Really

577
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 5: that that frightened me, and he just started laughing, he

578
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 5: seems so. I told him the whole story ago.

579
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 4: So I remember, but you had you had Corey Dillon,

580
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Matt, Patricia, you had Scott Pioli, yeah.

581
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: Bruski cor yeah, yeah.

582
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 2: You know.

583
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: I felt like like Dion branch And and Bruski were two

584
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 3: that that had to have for that season. But no,

585
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 3: it was we were planning on doing three and then

586
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: Mac got into three and then we're like this is

587
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 3: two long, so we're doing three and four for uh

588
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: just the first two playoff games and then the last

589
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: the super Bowl and some reflections. It's good stuff.

590
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 4: It's all audio, yep, So put it on when you're

591
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: in the gym or driving or whatever. It's it's a

592
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: really good listen.

593
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 3: I'd say too, like I want to make one sales

594
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 3: point on it too, because it's something I realized listening

595
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 3: to a draft Matt sent me last night in my

596
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: car is like, it's so fun to listen to gilan

597
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: Gino's radio calls in your car again and to hear

598
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: that audio and to hear the fan reaction and there's

599
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: just there's nothing else like that, Like, and you know,

600
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 3: I heard, God, somebody around the office was just talking

601
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 3: to it might have been you Paul talking about those

602
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: guys yesterday and just how iconic those calls were, and

603
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 3: it just takes you right back to that age. And

604
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just there's something to me about audio,

605
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 3: like listening to it on the radio that just I

606
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 3: don't know, it triggers something in your memory really really cool.

607
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 3: So I just I enjoy that part. So if you

608
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: get a chance to listen to it, listen to your car,

609
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: listen loud You'll be like, you're sitting back in Jollette

610
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 3: Stadium when they were kicking butt back, it.

611
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 4: Just reminds you of how buttoned up they really were.

612
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 4: I mean that team was buttoned up, you know, And however,

613
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 4: had all the angles Patriots team.

614
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: Every Yeah, yeah, I mean that's.

615
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: I mean if O seven had completed the deal. But

616
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 4: when you look at just every aspect of it, you know,

617
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 4: it was the Eagles plus Tom Brady, you know, they

618
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 4: like wherever you looked at the team, they had really

619
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 4: good players.

620
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think you can make an argument that the

621
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 5: old four team was more talented than the seven team. Now,

622
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 5: you're right, had they finished it, no one would ever

623
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 5: make I would because I'm a contrarian, I'm sure, and

624
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: I'm an argumentative by nature. But I just think that

625
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 5: there was no weakness on the four team, whereas I

626
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 5: thought that your seven defense was greatly prop up by

627
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 5: the offense. Yes, I don't think the defense was great.

628
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 5: It had great numbers.

629
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were getting along in the submission.

630
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, they made you a one dimensional team every game.

631
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 3: I think to the performance in the playoffs that stood

632
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 3: out to me going back because we kind of make

633
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 3: fun of them in the later years that their playoff teams.

634
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 3: In the first round, it was all right, this is

635
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: a gimme. You know, the first round. You're playing Peyton

636
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: Manning coming off of putting forty nine points on the Broncos.

637
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: He threw I think he threw forty nine touchdowns and

638
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: set the league record that year. I mean, that was

639
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: an elite offense that was coming into Gillette. And then

640
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh had lost one game all year, you know, I

641
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: mean it's it's you know, and and the Patriots handled

642
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 3: them both pretty easily. I mean, the hardest of the

643
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 3: game the three was the Eagles, you know, but it

644
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: was the special team, special team. And you know, to

645
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: Evans kind of point with the Eagles, when you get

646
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: to this point where you're kind of from a position

647
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: of strength, you like your roster, there are a lot

648
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: of things you it gives you a little bit more freedom.

649
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: You're a little bit loose. Like now, is a Patriots fan,

650
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 3: color analyst, whatever covering this team. It's like kind of

651
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: tense because you need so much and you're wondering how

652
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna fall. And you know, team like the Eagles,

653
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 3: maybe they probably didn't go and think but we're gonna

654
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: get Jaalen Carter. But they're like, sure, yeah, we don't

655
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 3: have any other you know, we don't have a huge

656
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: hole at left tackle right now, or we don't have

657
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 3: a huge hole at another position, pass rusher, whatever it is.

658
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: We can kind of do what we want. I think

659
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: it's just that's where that Patriots team was too. They

660
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: were able to kind of take chances, and you know,

661
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: you draft a guy like Ben Watson who didn't really

662
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 3: even do a whole heck of a lot, but still

663
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 3: became a pretty good player, and you know down the

664
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 3: road and you know, you just you're not so we

665
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: need it. We need it now. We need this guy

666
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 3: to come like this fourth overall pick, he's got to

667
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: come in. He's got to save our offensive line.

668
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: So you're the defending Super Bowl champs and you go

669
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 5: into the the draft with two number one.

670
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: This is so crazy.

671
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: All right, Well it's the same thing as Carter, right,

672
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean that's what happened. Will Fork Will Fork Fell.

673
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 6: You know, the Bill is way ahead of the curve

674
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 6: in terms of draft pick value and all that kind

675
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: of stuff, and like they would just collect first round

676
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 6: picks in some years and you'd just be like, wait,

677
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 6: they have two foot Jones and Dante Tire, like, how

678
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: did this happen? And then like everybody else, I feel

679
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 6: like now has sort of caught up to the value

680
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 6: of the picks, but he was way ahead on that.

681
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 5: He used to credit Jimmy Johnson for it. You know,

682
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: Jimmy Johnson used to say, you know, they criticized him

683
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 5: saying it's it's draft Day, not trade day, and Jimmy

684
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: Johnson would laugh about it, and you know, him and

685
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 5: Belichick would have a lot of conversations and they you know,

686
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 5: obviously Dallas has that famous trade that they rebuilt their

687
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 5: entire team with the Herschel Walker move that was all

688
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 5: draft picks, really yep. And you know Bill did a

689
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: lot of the same stuff. But just like the Super

690
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: Bowl champs, and you come into the draft, you know,

691
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: three months later, two months later, with two first round picks,

692
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: one of which ends up tearing his ACL and doesn't

693
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 5: do anything for you, and it doesn't matter because you

694
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 5: got Will Fork who was a really good player and

695
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 5: contributed right away, and you had such a good team.

696
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 5: You end up acquiring again on draft Day, Corey Dillon,

697
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 5: which is you know, it's almost like a draft pick

698
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 5: because of the way it all came down.

699
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

700
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 5: I would say too, when you're living right and you're

701
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 5: making these moves and they're all working out.

702
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, something you pointed out too in the podcast that

703
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 3: I was going through it where that you also had,

704
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, the rising tide raises all ships. You had

705
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: younger players who were a Sante Samuel, You're not a

706
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: highly drafted guy, but surrounded by greatness and he kind

707
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: of gets swept up in it and now he starts

708
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: to play really well, make some key plays during that season.

709
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: It's a you know, you just you feel the difference

710
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: between when a team has that kind of energy, which

711
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 3: clearly Eagles and you know other teams have right now,

712
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: that the Patriots had back then that you know, sometimes

713
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: those moves like just because the culture, it would lift

714
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: guys up and guys would perform, you know, suddenly would

715
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: improve and contribute. And there just hasn't been enough of

716
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 3: that around here. I think that's something that's that's missing

717
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: that they're trying to get back to to establish that

718
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: to you know, try to get more of those draft

719
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 3: picks to develop.

720
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, but it was, you know what it

721
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 4: was a long time coming. It just didn't happen overnight.

722
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: It started in the in the nineties. You know, some

723
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: of the foundation of that defense in particular, happened in

724
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 4: the nineties.

725
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Vin Terry Bruce Ki Lawyer mcguinnis McGuinness. Yeah, you know,

726
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: it's Teddy Johnson another one. And you know, it's just

727
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 3: it's funny. Teams get on heaters, like Paul said, you

728
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: get you know, the Roman Fifers of the world and

729
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: the Mike Frables, and you sign these guys who are

730
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: more that second option, as you said Fred earlier, to

731
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: sign a bunch of guys who are good and they

732
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: all kind of work out, and not only do they

733
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 3: work out, some of them become, you know, Patriots Hall

734
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: of famers.

735
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: Let's mean you you went fifteen years with a first

736
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 5: round pick that was really good every you know, every time,

737
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: like it was like ninety plus percent. You know, it's

738
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 5: a hit rate. Now you don't do that, and it

739
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: was a long time. It wasn't yet.

740
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

741
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 5: I used to argue with Andy, Yeah, when I used

742
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 5: to call him a very good drafter, and Ady would

743
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 5: take exception to the very part, right, you know, imagine

744
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 5: that I was on fellow chick, very very very.

745
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 8: First round pick.

746
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 6: You always hit it down the fairway for years, like

747
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 6: you might for a long time.

748
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 8: It might not have been a game changer, but it was.

749
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 5: Like Ben Watson was just you know, he was a

750
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: good player. You know, I wouldn't call it home. But

751
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 5: you're also picking you know between twenty five and thirty.

752
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: Two, right right right, essentially a second you know, good blocker.

753
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lawrence Maroney, the.

754
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 5: Lawrence Maloney was the first one that kind of missed

755
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 5: Brandon Maryweather Yeah, you know Merriweather.

756
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even still kind of had the sony Michelle

757
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: saying where next year seven came through in some big

758
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: games and you know, helped you win some playoff games,

759
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: didn't get you over the hump.

760
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: Maroni was huge in the seven playoffs, in the two

761
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 5: games to get there, which were closer than people remember

762
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 5: the Jacksonville in Chargers games yep. And then you know,

763
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: obviously nothing worked in the offense on offense in the

764
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 5: Super Bowl.

765
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: It's so funny that Jacksonville and then Chargers with like

766
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers playing on No. A cl right, and who

767
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: knows what was wrong with La Dania Tomins.

768
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 5: Gates, No Tomlinson on a quarterback on a towny a Celatriots.

769
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: Those were the days.

770
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 4: Those are the days, all right? A five five five

771
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 4: hundred is the tpx hutline. It's eight five to five

772
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: pass five hundred. Podcasts at Patriots dot com is the

773
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: email address? What else? Anything else that we need to

774
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: touch on?

775
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 5: But you had thoughts on the Basketball All Star Game.

776
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: Geez, he's freaking in.

777
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 11: Hot, no.

778
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 5: Magneuse.

779
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: When you know, when things are new, I like to

780
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: give them a shot just so I can have an

781
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 4: informed opinion on it. And so I wanted to see

782
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 4: how this new format was going to work out. And

783
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: it wasn't good. It was it was they still didn't try.

784
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 2: You know.

785
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 4: I made the example, like how many turnovers does Steph

786
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 4: Curry have in a normal game? Like hardly any? Right,

787
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: he had like ten, He's just throwing the ball, he's

788
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: taking half court shots. Guys aren't playing defense. It's they

789
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: they're still not trying. They're still not trying. So it

790
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: just wasn't good. And you know, the format now is

791
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: the first team to forty points, but they're taking breaks

792
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 4: in between and the players are getting aggravated on the

793
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 4: side like, can we just finish this game? It's just

794
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer is, but they haven't

795
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 4: found it yet.

796
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: It seems like they're trying, like they're.

797
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 4: That's why I invested the time.

798
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 12: I watched the whole night.

799
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 5: I would just do what the hockey does and go

800
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 5: with the US for the world. I mean, it won't

801
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 5: be like the hockey because hockey is just different, and

802
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 5: they'll they'll treat it. Hockey is going to treat it

803
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: more seriously than any of the other sports when they

804
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 5: do that. But there's enough good players, international players now

805
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 5: that you can have a good team, and I don't

806
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 5: I don't think that the players would go into it

807
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 5: and just say I don't care if we win or not.

808
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 5: I think there would be it might not be like

809
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,720
Speaker 5: playoff intensity better be better than the typical.

810
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 4: The only difference is, like what hockey is doing, it's

811
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 4: you are still playing for your country. US versus the

812
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: world is us versus everybody you know lumped together in

813
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 4: one team. And so I don't know if the pride

814
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 4: would be there for the world team because who am

815
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: I playing for the world? You know, I'm not playing

816
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 4: for my country. They all hate us so they would guess,

817
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 4: you know, but it would be better if somehow you

818
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 4: could have, you know, a team from Serbia, a team from.

819
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not enough of that. I know, there is

820
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 5: the individual countries. I don't think there's enough from any

821
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 5: one country right to do it. And maybe if you

822
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 5: did it, like I don't know, Like like the gold

823
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 5: medal game with France was pretty intense.

824
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 8: It was intense, so it wasn't I mean, you never

825
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 8: felt like the US was going to lose.

826
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 5: You didn't know. I watched a different game because I

827
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 5: saw Steph Curry go absolutely out of his mind in

828
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 5: the last three minutes of the game when that was

829
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 5: the different The game was hanging in the balance. It

830
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 5: was a two point game, but.

831
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 8: That was always going to happen.

832
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I I never read when I'm no longer

833
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 5: working here and I'm allowed to bet, I'm going to

834
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 5: talk to Evan and as.

835
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 6: I had way more attention in the semi final game

836
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: they actually almost lost.

837
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 5: They should have lost a semi five. Yeah, but I'm

838
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 5: just talking about the intensity level of the lat that

839
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 5: that France game, and France is not as talented, but

840
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 5: they were both going at each other. Yeah, but sell

841
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 5: he played out of his mind that death.

842
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 8: Yea in that game, played a whole tournament.

843
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think the World Team is the best

844
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 6: way to do it. World versus United States. I don't

845
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 6: know if there will be an intense level to it,

846
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 6: but there is like a somewhat little rivalry brewing between

847
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 6: the fact that everybody thinks that the word the international

848
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: players are now better than the United States.

849
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 8: You know, players from well, there's just.

850
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 4: Not enough of them. They are some of the best

851
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 4: players in the NBA are international players.

852
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 6: Not all of the bench players on the in the

853
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 6: on the World team would be true all stars. But

854
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 6: they could make a team that you reconize.

855
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you could get eight twelve guys.

856
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 6: Yeah, you'd have you know, guys like Jamal Murray would

857
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 6: be coming off the bench. You know, Bogdan bang Yanovitch

858
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 6: would be coming off the bench. Yeah, like they they

859
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: could make an NBA team out of it. But they're

860
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 6: starting five would be they're starting five, I think would

861
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 6: be better.

862
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: He's telling me about this guy who's going to be

863
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: the MVP. It's like or something.

864
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 8: I think they're starting five would be better?

865
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: What about No, I was gonna say like the top

866
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: college players.

867
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 6: Well they do that with the select team and it's

868
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 6: always like Cooper Flag will go off and everybody else

869
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 6: doesn't belong on the court. But you know, Cooper Flag

870
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 6: was like he could have potentially done like what Anthony

871
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 6: Davis did and been on USA this past time, you know,

872
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 6: as like the twelfth guy.

873
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 8: On the team.

874
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 6: But I think the World team could potentially put together

875
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 6: a good team. I just don't I don't know if

876
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 6: they would care. I don't know if they would care.

877
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 6: And that's all that matters, is if they care or.

878
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: Not about like two on two basketball, like at the beach,

879
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 3: Like that's the that's the.

880
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 6: I would say the best thing that I would want

881
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 6: to see at the All Star Game, which would probably

882
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 6: happen on Saturday night, is one on one. I think

883
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: that that would be fantastic.

884
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 5: So the women did a one on one thing and

885
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: it got a little attention, and then you know, I

886
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 5: think Giannis had said that he'd be interested in doing that.

887
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 5: So that's the key is if you can get the

888
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 5: stars to want to do it because they won't want

889
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 5: to lose one on one, You're gonna try because you

890
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: don't want to be in baddle. That's true, But how

891
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: about thinking out of the box double that said, I

892
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 5: hate one on one double the side of the court

893
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 5: and have ten on ten, So now you really have strategy.

894
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 3: Could there be like a five point.

895
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 5: With the I just think one on one?

896
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

897
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 6: First of all, we all grew up playing one on

898
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 6: one against our friends, and so there's like that element

899
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: of it, which is cool, but like.

900
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: It's boring to watch.

901
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 5: I think it's boring.

902
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 8: I don't know.

903
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 6: One on one King of the Court like style is

904
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 6: a lot of fun, and like they like they do

905
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 6: that in these like Team USA practices and stuff, and

906
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,439
Speaker 6: like there's that old video of KG just like going

907
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 6: up and down the court and he's just beating everybody

908
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 6: in his way, and he goes like through like the

909
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 6: entire Team USA roster and beats every single one of

910
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 6: them in one on one. Like if you know someone

911
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 6: did that in an All Star setting, I think it

912
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 6: would be cool. It does sound like the Dunk Contest

913
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 6: like that some of the guys, you know, obviously they're

914
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 6: trying to get like John Ant and those guys to

915
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 6: actually participate, and they were on Twitter after the Dunk Contest.

916
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 8: Being like, we need to beat this this G league.

917
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: Kid, but he's unbelievable.

918
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 5: He's jumping over cars, but that was way better than

919
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 5: Wake Griffin's jumping over.

920
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, he just did a kid. I think

921
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: this guy had the biggest sit in.

922
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 8: Well he dumped over the whole car in size.

923
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 3: Cadillac.

924
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, So I do think next year's dunk

925
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 6: contests could have some some bigger names. It sounds like

926
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 6: these the like stars are starting to be like, we're

927
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 6: really letting or we're letting this this G League kid

928
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 6: steal the show, like.

929
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: You know, maybe not gonna beat them.

930
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 5: Well, they're gonna have to. They're gonna have to do something.

931
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 5: Because I mentioned this yesterday on my show because it

932
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 5: was actually my show.

933
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 4: Yeah you you co hosted.

934
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: When have you ever remember NHL going against the NBA

935
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 5: and anything in the NHL winning killing And the NHL

936
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 5: killed them with that US Canada game Saturday night. And

937
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: I don't know what the numbers are because I don't

938
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 5: believe the numbers, as you know, but I'm just talking

939
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 5: about interests. No one was talking about your thing right

940
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: first to forty, which I actually kind of liked the

941
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 5: idea of that that rather than a time game. But

942
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 5: everybody was talking about I mean Twitter, Oh yeah, my

943
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: Twitter was blowing up. I don't know if you well

944
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: to be the three fights and nine seconds, My Twitter.

945
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 8: Was blown not exactly apples.

946
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: No, but it's I mean, it's an exhibition supposed to

947
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 5: be competition.

948
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 6: This is the first time that they've had international hockey

949
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 6: in like a decade, and like they and they weren't

950
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 6: in the last Olympics. The NHL players so like this

951
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 6: this one, Like you know, Matthew Chuck's talking about how

952
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 6: he's waited nine years to like play in a USA tournament. Yeah, so, like,

953
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 6: I think that's a little bit it's a little bit different.

954
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 5: I'm just saying the NHL got more attention absolutely than

955
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 5: the NBA, and that never I cannot recall that happening

956
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 5: a single time in my life.

957
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 8: Nope, No, that's fair.

958
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: All right.

959
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 4: So podcast at Patriots dot com is the email address.

960
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: We've got a combine on the table, we got free

961
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 4: agency on the table, NBA All Star, four Nations, whatever

962
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 4: you want to talk about, it's all on the table.

963
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

964
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 4: So let's see James Pettigrew the most interesting Patriots fan

965
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 4: in the world, rights in.

966
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 5: About the game, Mike, I think we got it right.

967
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: The most interesting Patriots fan in the world.

968
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 4: Okayeh, make it a three verse three round robin contest.

969
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: Players can choose their own teams. Give the winning team

970
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: fifteen million bucks.

971
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: That's what it would take.

972
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 8: They've tried cash purse, They've tripped. These guys make so much.

973
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: Money they don't care.

974
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 6: Like they're making sixty million dollars a year, they just

975
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 6: don't care.

976
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is. It's a bum What if it's

977
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: a lot of money to your favorite charity, So if

978
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: you lose, you're letting down care the kids.

979
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 5: You know, Kobe had the thing. I know this made

980
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 5: the again yesterday. But when Kobe, you know, was really

981
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: bummed out about the lack of competitiveness in the All

982
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 5: Star Game, this is years ago, and he just said,

983
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 5: you know, like these guys treat pickup games at UCLA

984
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 5: like it's life or death. Why can't they do that

985
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: for one one day? Yeah, there's got to be some

986
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 5: way to incentivize them to try. Yeah, and I don't

987
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: know what it is. I don't know what the perfect

988
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 5: scenario is, but I haven't heard anything that's better than

989
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 5: setting up some facacta tournament US versus the world.

990
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I was saying to Fred earlier though, like

991
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 6: I watching the All Star Game was like a religion

992
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,919
Speaker 6: in my house, Like I watched it every single year.

993
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 6: They never tried until like the very end of the game,

994
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 6: like they.

995
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 5: Would, oh, this is not a new phenomenon.

996
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 6: They would always have like the Harlem globe Trotter's style

997
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 6: game for like three and a half quarters, and then

998
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: if the game was closed with like four or five.

999
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: Minutes ago, they would say, we might as well win it.

1000
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, they put their best five on. Each team will

1001
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: go on the floor, and they play a real game

1002
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 6: for like.

1003
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: Someone might actually commit a foul.

1004
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah. David Wisconsin writes saying if both Carter

1005
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 4: and Hunter are available at number four and the Patriots

1006
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: pass on both, how angry or disappointed will you be?

1007
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 8: Not a scenario I'm considered.

1008
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 5: I'd be angry if they passed on both of those.

1009
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 4: God, yeah, yeah, I'd be really I can't imagine that happened.

1010
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I would resign like I did with

1011
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 5: Richard Seymour, but I would be pretty angry.

1012
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 4: We talked about this earlier, but Brandon and Maine wants

1013
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 4: to know who we feel are the blue chip prospects.

1014
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 4: Like we said this too, it's Travis Hunter, and it's

1015
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 4: that seems to be the Carter right and.

1016
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they start to get into projections, you know,

1017
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: it's guys that have Dwartz or you know, certain things

1018
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 3: you got to get around, or guys are young and raw.

1019
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: I think that's a common theme with.

1020
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 5: Some of you guys. You know, we talked about tight

1021
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 5: ends a little bit. You guys have any concerns about

1022
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 5: Tyler Warren or the slow? Am I the only one

1023
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 5: that doesn't like him as much as everybody else?

1024
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1025
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: I haven't really allowed myself.

1026
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 5: Fine, I've been the lone wolf a lot.

1027
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't. I look at him as the one

1028
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 3: of the donut guys, one of the guys that's going

1029
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 3: to go between four and twenty five, and I feel

1030
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: like that's the spot where they're probably not.

1031
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 4: I really haven't.

1032
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: I really like him. I think he's a really good player.

1033
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 5: I think he's got some versatility. I'm not sure he's

1034
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 5: at that level that people say, but I'm by no

1035
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 5: means my expert ten years in college.

1036
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 6: I think it's a different know we're talking about about

1037
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: him in Loveland earlier. It's it's a flavor thing, like

1038
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 6: he's not he's not overly explosive, Like he's not a

1039
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 6: field stretcher from that position. He's not a top end

1040
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: speed guy. He's got some berth through the top of

1041
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 6: routes and with the ball in his hands, but he's

1042
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 6: just not a I wouldn't say his play speed like

1043
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 6: pops off the tape at you. But he's so well rounded,

1044
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 6: like he's he's so he's versatile, he can block from everywhere,

1045
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 6: like he's.

1046
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 8: Just he's zeroed prototypical.

1047
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 6: Why tight ends like that? If they were to like

1048
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 6: put a definition next to it, it would be a

1049
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 6: prospect night Like Tyler wat it's.

1050
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: So funny, And I think Tyler Warren falls into this

1051
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 4: category for me. So many of these tight ends once

1052
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 4: they get the ball in the hands that are already

1053
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 4: like falling forward and when like like Gronk would be

1054
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 4: an exception, like when he get the ball is his

1055
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 4: he's trying to like make a guy miss. And a

1056
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 4: lot of these tight ends, even like kind of the

1057
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 4: really good ones, like they're already falling forward as the

1058
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 4: guy comes to them. It's like almost like they want

1059
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: to protect their legs. It's it's so weird. Have you

1060
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 4: noticed that, Like Fourier was the trip a lot, Well, no,

1061
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 4: but he but he was like the you know, the

1062
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: leader of the pack with this, he looked like a

1063
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 4: deer just born something.

1064
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: When he had made a mistake of teasing him about

1065
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 5: that once, he got really mad.

1066
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: But even Kelsey now like in the when he was younger,

1067
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 4: he didn't do this, but now like when when contacts coming,

1068
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: like K'll go cover up and like start to lean

1069
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: forward before a guy even hits him, you know. And

1070
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 4: it just seems a weird thing about tight ends. There's

1071
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 4: very few of them that actually try to like expose

1072
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 4: himself and try to make a guy miss. Kind of

1073
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: see it like two buckets and I would put Tyler

1074
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 4: Warren in a category. He doesn't try to make guys miss.

1075
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 6: He's like I'm gonna drag three people. He's not an

1076
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 6: elusive open field runner, but when he gets up to

1077
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 6: a top speed, he can he can move for his

1078
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 6: size and then it's gonna take a village to put

1079
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 6: him down because he's so big.

1080
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 8: But yeah, he's not an elusive runner.

1081
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 4: I'd agree, Ford and Savannah. Welcome back, Fred, Thank you, Evan.

1082
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: I'm with you one hundred percent on the disrespect of

1083
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: the Patriots and the Hall of Fame. Adams should become

1084
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: truly famous by refusing the Hall of Fame jacket when

1085
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: he finally gets it, or Brady could do the same

1086
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 4: until he's deserving. Teammates get theirs, and they go in

1087
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: as a team, just as they left the tunnel in

1088
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Speaker 4: the first super Bowl of The Dynasty. One and lastly, Mike,

1089
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Speaker 4: did you get your hair cut sport clips? Because I did?

1090
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 4: You know, it looks very similar. The hairdresser asked me

1091
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 4: if I wanted a number two. I said, I don't

1092
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 4: know what that is, but sure now I look similar

1093
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 4: to you. It's definitely too short in my head, looks

1094
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: good in you though.

1095
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 3: I went to Evans Place. Actually you went to right here.

1096
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Speaker 8: Tomorrow.

1097
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 4: I went there, right down the street.

1098
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 5: I just thought the guy was gonna say I went

1099
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 5: in and asked for the deuce.

1100
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: Well I did, I actually deuce. I knew what the

1101
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: two was, but I just wanted to get rid of it.

1102
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 5: Shortened up.

1103
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 3: It'll come back. I don't worry. It's a really bad

1104
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 3: still got a really bad haircut last time they needed.

1105
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 4: Options Alex and Raleigh fred I don't know what happened

1106
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 4: on vacation, but you not wanting to get into an

1107
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: argument with Paul is just Unamerican to fight the man.

1108
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 4: Give him what he wants. But we've had the discussion before,

1109
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 4: so it wasn't I didn't want to quite disconcerting.

1110
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 5: It took me. It took me aback.

1111
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 4: Onto the team. Uh, this team needs to protect Drake

1112
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 4: and give them weapons. While our defense was abysmo beyond

1113
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: what I pictured happening. I do think they broke under

1114
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: the pressure of having to play perfect while the offense

1115
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 4: did very little to help. I understand getting the best

1116
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 4: player available on any side of the ball. I just

1117
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 4: feel like I haven't seen a good offense in so

1118
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 4: long on the Patriots since Brady left. And yes, Paul

1119
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 4: Brady is the main factor in all of it. I agree.

1120
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think good defense was as bad as the offense.

1121
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: I wouldn't blame the offense for the defense.

1122
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 8: This past year.

1123
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Speaker 6: I'd agree with that, but I do think there's a

1124
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 6: path to a lot of the individual players having bounced

1125
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 6: back years Like I don't think Kyle dugger will be.

1126
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 8: As bad as he was at times last year.

1127
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 6: You would like to hope that you have some guys

1128
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 6: like ben Lee Pepper's bar more like maybe those guys

1129
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 6: are available, sure, but yeah, that's possible. The team that

1130
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 6: they put on the field last year was just as

1131
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 6: bad as the off.

1132
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: Absolutely when would can I ask you guys the timing question,

1133
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 3: like if they were going to start jettisoning some of

1134
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: these guys or you know, moving on from contracts, like

1135
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 3: when would that start to happen? Would that be now

1136
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 3: or would that would they wait till free agency? Like

1137
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 3: I don't know what. When do you think they would

1138
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 3: start cleaning house if they were starting to get rid

1139
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 3: of some of these guys trim the fat?

1140
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 5: Probably next month.

1141
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: Like you get maybe at the combine, you put some

1142
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: feelers out of the.

1143
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: Who's available, so you see what is in your you know,

1144
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 5: in your future when your plans. Yeah, and then you know,

1145
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 5: the league year starts usually around what the twelfth thirteen.

1146
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 8: Tenth was the legal tampering period.

1147
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, but when you have to actually be compliant.

1148
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 8: Is I think it's I think it's the tenth and

1149
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 8: the twelfth.

1150
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 5: Okay, So if you have any moves like that that

1151
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 5: you need to move. You can have your cap casualties

1152
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: and move on.

1153
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1154
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean clobally surprised that we haven't seen much.

1155
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 3: No, I know, I mean I'm not surprised, but I'm

1156
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 3: I'm curious. I'm just curious what they're going to do.

1157
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 3: And it's it's you know, there there really haven't done much.

1158
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: I mean, just you know, the Jeremiah Farms of it all.

1159
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 4: I go by the Bill Belichick philosophy of don't make

1160
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 4: a decision until you have to, like, you know, like

1161
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: see what happens. But what if you want to then

1162
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 4: then the right time you do.

1163
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 5: Know, I'm just saying, like, if you decided that Mike

1164
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 5: do show is not in our plans regardless under any situation.

1165
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: So well, sometimes you do that, you know, like for

1166
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: a veteran, just to give them an early start on things.

1167
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 4: It's a courtesy. But if you don't have to make

1168
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 4: a decision on a player right away, why do it.

1169
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 5: I wouldn't suggest them making a decision on someone that

1170
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 5: they're not sure about and saying.

1171
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 4: If they sure, but if they well, but what about.

1172
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 5: I haven't seen a lot of activity around the league.

1173
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 5: I don't think that's common.

1174
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: But what about like, you know, Okay, so we know

1175
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 4: we're going to get rid of player A, but you know,

1176
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 4: maybe another team would be interested in them and having

1177
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 4: them on our roster.

1178
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 5: Around the league. Yeah, you know, Debo, Miles Garrett, right,

1179
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 5: Cooper Cup Yep, you know, maybe to a lesser extend

1180
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 5: my dream of Micah Parsons.

1181
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 3: You know what was one other piece of news we

1182
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 3: didn't talk about. It was Nick Keyley being hired by Houston,

1183
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,959
Speaker 3: which I think is an interesting It'll be interesting comp

1184
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 3: with Josh and Drake and Nick Keyley as a new OC.

1185
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: You know, with Stroud down there be interesting to see

1186
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 3: how that goes.

1187
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 4: Okay, see if we're one that got away.

1188
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's really got the juice, I mean, they

1189
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 3: seemed very high on him.

1190
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 5: If there was luck that he turned them down last year?

1191
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1192
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: Or misfortune?

1193
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:34,439
Speaker 2: Right?

1194
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 4: Travis in West Virginia. I have a question mostly for Paul.

1195
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you, but if the two thousand

1196
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: and four Patriots were the best Patriots team ever and

1197
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 4: Donovan mcdahm was a stiff as you call him, then

1198
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 4: why was the final score so close? Why the Patriots

1199
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,320
Speaker 4: never blew anybody out in the Super Bowl, says always

1200
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 4: been a mystery to me.

1201
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 5: I think they kind of low key one night, you know,

1202
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,879
Speaker 5: I never felt like Evan says that he never had

1203
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 5: any fear of losing the game against France. I never

1204
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 5: had any fear of losing. That's exactly. I had fear

1205
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: going to Pittsburgh in the AFC Championship game, and I

1206
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 5: know what the score ended up being, but that game,

1207
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 5: to me was the Super Bowl. I never had any fear.

1208
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: I thought that the Patriots did not play particularly well

1209
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 5: in the first half of that game. The second half

1210
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 5: they asserted their dominance. They got a ten point lead

1211
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 5: with whatever it was three minutes left. Ye Eagles got

1212
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 5: to know by the way touchdown at the end.

1213
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 6: It's a perfect comparison exactly how I never felt that

1214
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 6: game was in doubt.

1215
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't feel fear it myself.

1216
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 3: Yeah you were thinking you were at that one.

1217
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: Oh God, yeah, come on, I wasn't.

1218
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 3: Oh that was the one Pop didn't get to go to.

1219
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 8: The only other Patriots team.

1220
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: I think he was just having a kid.

1221
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 5: Based on what happened, it sounds like I lucked out.

1222
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 8: The twenty fourteen team, I feel like is always.

1223
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 5: Fourteen team is in the conversation.

1224
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 6: Yes, for like my you know, I was pretty young

1225
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 6: for the first part of the dynasty, so like that

1226
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 6: was at the point where I actually knew what I

1227
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 6: was watching when I was watching football, and the fourteen team,

1228
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 6: I would say, is like our favorite out of like

1229
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 6: you know that.

1230
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: Me too, to be honest, me too. Yeah. I mean

1231
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 3: I just as much as I was like a Patriots

1232
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: fan for the first three it was like I was

1233
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 3: super invested starting two thousand and six in every game

1234
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 3: and every twist and turn and every playoff loss just

1235
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 3: was an absolute dagger in my heart. And that's why

1236
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: fourteen to me is always how Fred reallyted seventy sixteen. Yeah,

1237
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 3: with the Jets on the Patriot.

1238
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 5: Good my oh.

1239
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,959
Speaker 6: I just remember when they do the when you watch

1240
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 6: the fourteen Super Bowl back, which I've I've done probably

1241
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 6: a thousand times, and they do the intros of like,

1242
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 6: you know, offense, defense, and they just they're doing the

1243
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 6: Patriots intros and it's like like every player is like,

1244
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 6: you know, it's Brady, it's Gronk, it's Edelman. It's like

1245
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 6: even the offensive line is loaded, like You're just like, man,

1246
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 6: this team just had no holes, like they were loaded

1247
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 6: everywhere then like they're you know, Malcolm Butler is like

1248
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 6: a fifth string corner, like you know, it's just they

1249
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 6: had depth on defense, like crazy, that team was really good.

1250
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: Yep.

1251
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: I mean Dorel Reeves comes here for one year and

1252
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 4: wins a championship. Yeah, like okay, that worked.

1253
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I always have that on the chests.

1254
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we'll take a break when we come back.

1255
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 4: More calls and emails here on Patriots Unfiltered.

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00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,600
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Speaker 15: It's time for another episode of Patch from the Past

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 15: podcast Matt Smith.

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00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 5: Along with Paul Rillo.

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00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 12: Please to be joined by number twenty eight. Can you

1292
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 12: believe that number twenty eight? It is great to see

1293
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 12: Corey dyllon here.

1294
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 16: Corey, thanks for joining us, man, thanks for having me

1295
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 16: you you know you start the old five season looking

1296
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 16: you know, to win three in a row for a

1297
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 16: three peat obviously hasn't been done.

1298
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Kansas City is going to try to do it

1299
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: this year.

1300
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:29,919
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna happen.

1301
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 12: Why Why because it's never happened.

1302
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:41,439
Speaker 2: It's never happened. I don't. Everybody's shooting for you.

1303
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 15: You since did you get that? Did you get a

1304
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 15: sense that you're getting everybody's best shot?

1305
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: You know? Absolutely absolutely? I think the four we were

1306
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 2: getting everybody's best shot. Honestly, everybody's best shot. And I

1307
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: think I think the consensus around the the league and

1308
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 2: to most like you know what, we're tired of seeing

1309
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: them win anyway. So I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure

1310
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: teams are gearing up. They're gonna give Kansas City all

1311
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: they can handle. I don't, I don't see I don't

1312
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 2: see them three p at all.

1313
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 15: Where did you see the pressures? Besides getting everybody's best shot?

1314
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: Too?

1315
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 12: Four was magical.

1316
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 15: Nothing went wrong that year, and so you can't just

1317
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 15: roll the balls back out again in O five. You gotta,

1318
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 15: like Bill used to say, it's a new year, you

1319
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 15: got to put in the work and everything like that.

1320
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 15: Where did you see that things went wrong in O five.

1321
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 2: I mean there was a lot of injuries. I mean

1322
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: I missed games that that that that year. So yeah,

1323
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean you gotta have you gotta have some luck

1324
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 2: to complete the mission of winning a Super Bowl man

1325
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: and that and number one, stay and healthy is key. Uh,

1326
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 2: I don't. I wasn't healthy. A lot of other players

1327
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 2: that were down. So we kind of we kind of

1328
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: struggled that year. We still we still made it to

1329
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I think we went up to Denver. We

1330
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 2: lost to Denver. Should should which I thought we had

1331
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 2: that we we would have seen Pittsburgh again and oh

1332
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 2: what a feeling that would have been. That would have

1333
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 2: been another good one. And I think, I don't know,

1334
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: I think Pittsburgh did they win it that year?

1335
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 5: Yes?

1336
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we Honestly, I'm sitting here, I'm thinking, damn, I

1337
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 2: could be had. I could have to two rings man,

1338
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 2: to be honest with you.

1339
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you know, just from Afar, I would say,

1340
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: you guys look like you're a little lot of guests

1341
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 5: that too. In Denver, you know, a tough place to play,

1342
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: no mile high. And I think all the sort of

1343
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 5: attrition of the long playoff runs, Yeah, I think caught

1344
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: up to you. But you want to say, you could

1345
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 5: have had two forward to six and you got a

1346
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 5: twenty one to three lead late in the second quarter

1347
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 5: of the AFC Championship game.

1348
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, could it?

1349
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 5: I think we might have ruined it for him.

1350
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1351
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, that was a different year though, Core They drafted

1352
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 12: back in the first round. Yeah, what you're thinking when

1353
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 12: you saw that happen?

1354
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 2: Nothing like? Okay, I mean you still got to come

1355
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: in here and play, like you know what I mean, Like,

1356
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 2: just because you were drafted doesn't mean it doesn't mean anything.

1357
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 2: A great player told me this. It doesn't matter what

1358
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 2: round you're drafted. It matters what you do when you

1359
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 2: get there. That's a great boomer of science. And so

1360
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 2: you gotta still come in here and play. And then

1361
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: at the at the end of the day, what's the

1362
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 2: worst thing going to happen? Somebody get cut? I mean,

1363
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 2: I'm not getting cut, So I'm not worried about that

1364
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: aspect of it. So what it boiled down to two

1365
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: was and you know what, Hey, we're gonna mix it up.

1366
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: Hey we split carries, and that's fine with me. I

1367
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: never griped about that whatsoever. I kind of thought of

1368
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 2: it as hell, I need a break too. Sometimes maybe

1369
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 2: this could that part as well, that part as well.

1370
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: I never took it as a as a negative so

1371
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: and then on top of that, Man, we embrace guys

1372
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 2: that's coming in here that can help you win. Who

1373
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: doesn't want that? So I never looked at it in

1374
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: a negative light. I looked at it as a another

1375
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: teammate here to help us win. And like you said, Man,

1376
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 2: we get up there, we get up there to Andy

1377
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 2: Man and and I'm thinking, man, were going back, and

1378
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 2: then I don't know what happened, Man, many happened that

1379
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 2: big head Fela with the work and pulled a number

1380
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: on us. Man.

1381
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 5: And I didn't mean to gloss over one of the

1382
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 5: more underrated playoff victories of the dynasty. And that's the

1383
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 5: week before in San Diego.

1384
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 2: Oh Man, I think I think Ladani is still mad

1385
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: about that. When you're question we went to win that game,

1386
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 2: Nope at all. And I think they were the favorites

1387
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: to win at all.

1388
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 12: They were fortune and too.

1389
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so and actually going up to San Diego

1390
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 2: and playing one hell of a team. Man, that team

1391
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: was good on defense, good on offense, and we were

1392
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 2: in a slugfest all four quarters and they actually go

1393
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 2: up there and come out with the win. Was was special.

1394
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 2: That was a good win for us.

1395
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 15: I don't want to trivialize it, because I think when

1396
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 15: you say that you're a part of a trivia question, it.

1397
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 12: Trivializes the accomplishment. But I do Paul had mentioned this earlier.

1398
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,440
Speaker 15: I don't know how many Patriot fans right off the

1399
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 15: top of the head go, oh, single season record rushing record,

1400
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 15: Corey Dillon sixteen hundred yards. That's a hell of an

1401
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 15: accomplishment and one you must be very proud of to

1402
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 15: see that record still stands today.

1403
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 2: I'm proud, man. I'm just proud to be a part

1404
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:01,080
Speaker 2: of the history here. Man, That's what I'm proud of. Yeah.

1405
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: I always got the attitude of records are meant to

1406
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: be broken, which they they are. Some young step would

1407
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: come come along in here and eclipsed that. But you

1408
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: know what, I'm I'm a cherish it since I got

1409
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: it now, you know. So it was great, man. It's

1410
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 2: a reflection on that year, who I played with, the

1411
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: people who was around the organization, and to cap that

1412
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: that great season of rushing off with a super Bowl. Man,

1413
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 2: that's that's everything. That's something I never forget, never forget.

1414
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, as those six you know, obviously a very disappointing

1415
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,080
Speaker 5: we just talked about it. Very disappointing end. Did you

1416
01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 5: sort of have an idea in your mind of what

1417
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 5: the future was going to hold for you?

1418
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, I I just had enough, I

1419
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: think at that point, you know, like, yeah, I'm getting older.

1420
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 2: I was like thirty two, man, I was, I was.

1421
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 2: I was in my late early thirties, I mean, and

1422
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, man, I already gave you so much to

1423
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 2: this game, I mean, and in my mind, what more

1424
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: can I do? Or what more do I want to do?

1425
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 2: You know? And at that time, some of the older

1426
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 2: guys that hang around, you know, catch bad, bad injuries,

1427
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: you know. So and the style of football I like

1428
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,920
Speaker 2: to play, yeah, that was coming. That was coming. So

1429
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 2: I just thought to myself, like, man, this might be

1430
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: the best time to shut it down and go figure

1431
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 2: out something else to do with your life.

1432
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 12: Which is, what what are you up to these days?

1433
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 12: I think fans would want to know.

1434
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 2: Man, I'm trying to fix this hook I got in

1435
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 2: golf with the driver. Hey, I get a hold of it.

1436
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: I mean, for the most part, I'm putting it out

1437
01:04:54,840 --> 01:05:00,480
Speaker 2: there three hundred plus. But sometimes I have these snap

1438
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 2: hook So that's that's the thing on my agenda lately.

1439
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: It's fixing that hook. Yeah. And then other than that, man,

1440
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just living the easy life, man, and

1441
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 2: just get my kids through through school and things like that.

1442
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: Just a normal, normal life.

1443
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 12: That's the way it should be, man, Yeah, that's the

1444
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 12: way it should.

1445
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 5: And now great moments in.

1446
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: History.

1447
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 4: I was told that I said carry on wrong. I

1448
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 4: said carry on. It's carry on one word, like like

1449
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: the bag. It's a carry on, not.

1450
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 5: Carry on, cape calm and carry on. It's the action

1451
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 5: to the read before we get in trouble.

1452
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 4: Okay, only liquid's allowed, blood, sweat, and tears. Catch carry

1453
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 4: on December thirteenth, only on Netflix.

1454
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 5: Okay, you know these things intrigued me. Yeah, so I

1455
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 5: carry on that you would carry on to an airplane

1456
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 5: is pronounced differently than carry on.

1457
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, carry on, So my carry on I.

1458
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 5: Don't see carry on. I carry on my bring your

1459
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 5: carry on.

1460
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 8: I feel like carry on.

1461
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 4: I feel thank you.

1462
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 5: What I'm saying you.

1463
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 4: Just said was wrong. But Paul, you just said that's

1464
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 4: not you didn't use it as a now use it

1465
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 4: as a verb. You said, I carry on my bag.

1466
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 4: That's not what it is. It's a carry on my back.

1467
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 5: It's my carry on. It's not my carry on. It's

1468
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 5: it's my carry on, my carry on back, my carry

1469
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 5: on back.

1470
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1471
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 4: But but when you say, but when you say carry on,

1472
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm not changing carry on, carry on, carry on, carry

1473
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 4: on the conversation.

1474
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 5: It's my carry on. It's I'm saying it the exact putting.

1475
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:48,439
Speaker 4: The carrier, Paul, It's different, Larry listen, carry listen, carry on.

1476
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 4: Carry You put the emphasis on on when it's a verb.

1477
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 5: Okay, on, I don't, but you do.

1478
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,919
Speaker 4: You just don't. You want to admit it, but you do.

1479
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 4: You're just being the whole thing.

1480
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 5: I got that hood I mean, you've got that hood shirt.

1481
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 4: And that's why you're being stubborn.

1482
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 5: That's why it's getting under your skin.

1483
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 12: That's another great moment.

1484
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 4: All right back here.

1485
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 5: Did you see carry on?

1486
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 4: I did not see it.

1487
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 5: Carry on?

1488
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,240
Speaker 4: We watched it, yeah, yeah, yeah, not great, No, not great, not.

1489
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 5: Great, Yeah, it was worth a watch.

1490
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 4: Speaking of not great, I watched that Saturday Night Live special.

1491
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 5: Really yeah, not great, No, not really funny. No, I'm

1492
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 5: talking about this like the Sunday.

1493
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 4: Night the two and a half hour I heard a

1494
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 4: half hour I have heard that.

1495
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 5: The music one that I think was on Friday Night

1496
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 5: I haven't was excellent. Now it's not really for me, yeah,

1497
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 5: but if you're a music fan, you know, like a

1498
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 5: live music kind of fan, like I heard, it was outstanding.

1499
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 5: Matt Smith thought it was ridiculous. But man's a huge live.

1500
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 3: Huge huge you can't understand, particularly if he gets to

1501
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: watch it outdoors.

1502
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 4: So it wasn't like recapping all the best before in

1503
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: the past.

1504
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 3: There is one of those. That's what I was gonna

1505
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: ask Paul, because I think there was a concert and

1506
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if there's an actual video of the concert.

1507
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 3: But then there's also a special that I watched that

1508
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 3: was great Fred that was about the history of the

1509
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 3: music on Saturday Night Live, and it was really well done.

1510
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed that one.

1511
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 4: Because the great thing about Sura Night Live was well,

1512
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was great depending on your taste,

1513
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 4: but the way it started it was always bands you

1514
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 4: never heard of in the early days. It was never

1515
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: top line bands. It was like they had b fifty

1516
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 4: twos before anybody who b fifty twos.

1517
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 3: Was rock lobster.

1518
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,720
Speaker 4: And then I think as it as it. You know,

1519
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 4: in the later years they had more headline you know, acts,

1520
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 4: but it was always like obscure bands that were just

1521
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 4: starting out.

1522
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 3: They still introduced me to a couple of bands. I

1523
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 3: would say, like, I mean they have I think now

1524
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 3: they get hot artists and you know, people that are

1525
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 3: right breaking right now.

1526
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, now that's like in the moment

1527
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 6: right now. Yeah, you know, they'll get like Sabrina Carpenter,

1528
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 6: like as she's on the Shabootz.

1529
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 4: Like, wasn't white stripes like on Saturday Night Live, you

1530
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 4: know when they were still starting out.

1531
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 5: Yep, they were just blue stripes.

1532
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 3: Blue again.

1533
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1534
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,479
Speaker 4: But the you know, I I had high expectations because

1535
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: I used to love Saturday Night Live, but it they

1536
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 4: overthought it, and so I think they had the characters

1537
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 4: they decided to bring back and do in the moment skeits,

1538
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: skits and not like like Debbie Downer, really we're gonna

1539
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 4: bring her back.

1540
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 5: That's there was too many. I think it was it

1541
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,959
Speaker 5: was hard because there was too many.

1542
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 3: People that you had to incorporate.

1543
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could have. I think it would have just

1544
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 5: been fine if they just went with cast members. Yeah,

1545
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: but I agree it wasn't I didn't watch all of

1546
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 5: it on Sunday night. I kept putting it on and uh,

1547
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 5: the Eddie Murphy thing I thought was hilarious when he

1548
01:09:52,520 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 5: did Tracy Morgan that.

1549
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 4: Was that was that? But what but they screwed that

1550
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 4: segment up. They they veered away from the actual spirit

1551
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 4: of the segment and they got into I forget how

1552
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 4: they ended it up. But if they just stuck to

1553
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 4: how that segment was, it would have been great, because

1554
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 4: I agree Eddie Murphy did unbelievable. Meanwhile, Tracy Morgan's right next.

1555
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 5: Sitting right there, and I do think that's an underrated

1556
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever watch it. Sometimes I

1557
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 5: got on these YouTube rabbit holes and I find these various.

1558
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 3: Thestern games from the seventies.

1559
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 5: Well that's generally how I start.

1560
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 8: You hear it from.

1561
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 3: You watched some of you grind some filbal NASA.

1562
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 5: You're watching Billy Jaffey breaking down Adam Gotta Patrick in

1563
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 5: the eighteen you know, uh them pot final look at that.

1564
01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 4: Of course, what was.

1565
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 5: I Celebrities impersonating other celebrities. There's some really like that.

1566
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy's Tracy Mos was next level. That was funny.

1567
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 5: And there's some of those satting like like Kate McKinnon

1568
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 5: does some really good ones. You can get some some

1569
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 5: funny stuf off out of that, but just.

1570
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:02,719
Speaker 4: Not Kate McKinnon's overrated.

1571
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 5: There weren't enough of those.

1572
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 3: I like Kate m overrated. I like we got Sally

1573
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 3: O'Malley out for the fiftieth. You know, she kicks I

1574
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: kick stretch. I like that just a touch. I agree, though,

1575
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: I think there were They brought so many people back

1576
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 3: and everyone I remember think Tina Fey was like, I'm

1577
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,720
Speaker 3: a writer this week, So you know that there were

1578
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 3: so many writers coming back and a lot of egos

1579
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 3: and yeah, you're probably going to get something.

1580
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 4: Some of the best parts that started your live where

1581
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 4: the commercial takeoffs, and the way they handled that was

1582
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 4: to give you like three or four seconds of the

1583
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 4: best one, so it was like a quick montage. They

1584
01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 4: didn't do any new ones.

1585
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a little disappointed with the Samberg Lonely

1586
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 3: Island digital short they did that wasn't very.

1587
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 4: Like the Anxiety. Yeah, that was it was. Yeah, it

1588
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 4: was that. Some of the song and dance numbers were

1589
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,760
Speaker 4: like why did they have to do those? Like the

1590
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 4: wedding one do Mando? Yeah, it was just not funny,

1591
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 4: not funny. I want to laugh, be funny.

1592
01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 5: I want to laugh. Make me laugh.

1593
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 4: Some of the four people are you know, you know

1594
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 4: you can't do anything about that.

1595
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,760
Speaker 3: Do you see though, Bill Murray coming back to in

1596
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 3: the top ten lists or the top that was that

1597
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,919
Speaker 3: wasty sketch. He's kind of funny, a good delivery.

1598
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought that was good, but not great. That

1599
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 5: was but I liked I liked that. I liked that

1600
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 5: they did that.

1601
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 4: When they did the montage of the physical comedy, I

1602
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: laughed at that, like seeing Chris Farley smash you know,

1603
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 4: that made me laugh, even though it was just again

1604
01:12:27,479 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 4: a montage of people falling all over the place.

1605
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 3: What do you think happens when Lauren Michaels goes away?

1606
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just crazy that he's been running the

1607
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 3: show for for fifty years. I mean it's kind of

1608
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 3: like you Fred, I mean, you know the weird the

1609
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 3: Weird Year. Yeah, so one year he went away a

1610
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 3: little bit and then came back. But I mean, he's

1611
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 3: just been such an institution in that place. I can't

1612
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 3: imagine it's ever going to be the same.

1613
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought their best moment was the

1614
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 4: Adam Sandler song I don't know if you.

1615
01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 3: I don't think I got through that.

1616
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 4: It was really good. It was really so.

1617
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 5: He performed an original song.

1618
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, an original song about Saturday Night Live. Yeah, tear

1619
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 4: it up during it, Yeah, Sandman, he was good that.

1620
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 5: I haven't seen that. We make it on my Twitter feed.

1621
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 4: It's like three hours long.

1622
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, but I'm surpris like I used to like

1623
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 5: the Anie Murphy thing. I didn't see live, man. I

1624
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 5: saw it on on on the Twitter machine we.

1625
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 3: Do usually do. We watched through the news and then

1626
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:23,519
Speaker 3: kind of.

1627
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: Well, that's what they made a joke about that. They

1628
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 4: had a fake commercial about stuff that puts you to sleep.

1629
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 4: Nothing puts you to sleep more than the skit after

1630
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 4: the news on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, which is true.

1631
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:39,919
Speaker 4: You start falling asleep after the news.

1632
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 3: Okay, it's cool though. My kids have kind of developed

1633
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 3: a little bit of appreciation for us and now, and

1634
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 3: like I used to VCR tape it like I would.

1635
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 3: That was what, like I think I learned to use

1636
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 3: my VCR like the time it you know, when you

1637
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: had to like all right on it eleven twenty five

1638
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: and then out at like one oh five and you know,

1639
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 3: get up and watch it. So it's uh, that's crazy.

1640
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 3: It's been around this long.

1641
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 4: Love it all right?

1642
01:13:59,000 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 3: Uh?

1643
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 4: Dan and Lynch has issue with Evan. He says, Evan,

1644
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 4: I've heard you comment a few times recently about Tyler

1645
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 4: Warren's age and how he will be old for rookie.

1646
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 4: According to Wikipedia, he's twenty two years old, won't turn

1647
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: twenty three until after the draft, which is pretty average

1648
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 4: for a standard graduating senior. Am I missing something?

1649
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 8: I believe he's gonna be a twenty four year old rookie.

1650
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 4: This is why a Wikipedia isn't coorrect. You need to

1651
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: go in.

1652
01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 8: But regardless, yeah, you know, he's not ancient, Like he's.

1653
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 4: Not what you were being hyperbolic when you talked about

1654
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:32,639
Speaker 4: ten years in college. Oh yeah, he.

1655
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 6: Just because I feel like he's just been on the

1656
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 6: radar for a long time.

1657
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 8: Yeah he's not.

1658
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 6: No, he's not thirty, but he's he's going to be

1659
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 6: like a twenty three or twenty four year old rookie.

1660
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 6: And you just you know, we don't have to go

1661
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 6: down the whole age thing, but it's just usually at

1662
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 6: that point you're you're capped like that, you're kind of

1663
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 6: you're at the point of this is who you're going

1664
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 6: to sort of be as.

1665
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 5: And that's part of like when people talk about age,

1666
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 5: I think the perception from fans is, well, what's the

1667
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,320
Speaker 5: big deal, He's still going to be ten twelve years

1668
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 5: in the league. Wouldn't you want that? That's not necessarily

1669
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,520
Speaker 5: what the fear about the age is is the development,

1670
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 5: like how much better can he get? Yeah, And to

1671
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 5: Evan's point, I think a lot of scouts would look

1672
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 5: at a guy that's twenty four and say, okay, now,

1673
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 5: Jaden Daniels again, pretty good, right.

1674
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 6: I would just argue that Jayden Daniels didn't get better,

1675
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,639
Speaker 6: he was just always really darn good. I think that's

1676
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 6: I agree with Paul that I think that's one of

1677
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:31,040
Speaker 6: the biggest misconceptions is people think it's about career longevity

1678
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 6: and like how many contracts. It's really more about the

1679
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 6: fact that you're the younger. Breakout guys tend to be

1680
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 6: like the great athletes, right, Like you know, Jamar Chase,

1681
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 6: Christian Gonzalez was a young breakout guy. Drake was a

1682
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 6: young breakout guy. Like those guys tend to be the

1683
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 6: ones that have truly special athleticism, Travis Hunter. You know,

1684
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 6: like if you wait Lebron James until sure, if you

1685
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,400
Speaker 6: wait till you're a fifth year senior, and now all

1686
01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,080
Speaker 6: of a sudden, you're you know, you look like a

1687
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,840
Speaker 6: man amongst boys, Well, you kind of are as.

1688
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 4: Dan also says I'm all about sticking at number four

1689
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,720
Speaker 4: and taking Will Campbell regardless of his arm length. But

1690
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 4: if we trade down a few spots, I think Warren

1691
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 4: might be a great fit for the Patriots offense, like

1692
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 4: a good tight ends a good fit for any offense.

1693
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.

1694
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 4: Joel and Ottawa. I'm bracing myself for a free agent letdown.

1695
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 4: I think they'll be active, but it's going to be

1696
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 4: middle class heavy. I do believe the money is going

1697
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 4: to be spent in the trenches and not the skilled positions.

1698
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 4: My belief is Drake is good enough to make a

1699
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 4: wide receiver better with more time spent in the pocket,

1700
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 4: and therefore money on Higgins or Godwin won't be wouldn't

1701
01:16:40,360 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: be well spent.

1702
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a balance. I definitely default more towards

1703
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: finding guys that are going to be a part of this,

1704
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 3: but I also think that you need an injection of

1705
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: a little bit of leadership, a little bit of you know,

1706
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 3: outside presence. Not guys who are going to preach how

1707
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 3: we did things when the Patriot Way went here, but

1708
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: guys who know how to go about their business and

1709
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 3: guys who can set a tone. And I think that's

1710
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 3: part of the appeal for me with some of these

1711
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 3: veteran wide receivers, like a Godwin, just get that room

1712
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 3: in order, you know, get start to establish a little

1713
01:17:12,560 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: bit of consistency there and leadership, and you know, hopefully

1714
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 3: you also bring in another rookie. I would say, I'm

1715
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 3: all for, you know, continuing day true rookies with wide receivers,

1716
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 3: keep bringing those guys in, and you know, just you're

1717
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to get t Higgins. Probably it's

1718
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:28,960
Speaker 3: just you got to just try to keep stacking guys

1719
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: at that wide receiver position and hope somebody breaks out

1720
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 3: at some point.

1721
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,839
Speaker 5: It's a chicken or the egg thing too, Like obviously

1722
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 5: they need better line play, they need better protection. You

1723
01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 5: can't go into a season without tackles again. But if

1724
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 5: you don't have anybody to throw to, no line is

1725
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 5: just going to give you limitless options.

1726
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1727
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 5: The Chiefs had three all pros, right, but they don't

1728
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 5: have anybody that can get open. And Mahomes ended up

1729
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 5: getting killed, you know, So it was Yeah, the line

1730
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 5: play was bad and the Eagles defensive line dominated, but

1731
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 5: the Eagle secondary also dominated. They they blanketed their very

1732
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 5: average group of receivers until the game was over. And

1733
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 5: Worthy he made a bunch of catches in the second half,

1734
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 5: but but he didn't have any impact on the game. Yeah,

1735
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 5: I think he had like seven for one hundred and whatever,

1736
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 5: but it was meaningless. It was all garbage time.

1737
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, like you eat both the Patriots current wide receiver room.

1738
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 6: I guess maybe I do hear that a decent amount

1739
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 6: that like there were receivers would be okay. I I

1740
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 6: kind of just disagree, Like I I really just don't

1741
01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:32,760
Speaker 6: like any of their receivers really outside of Pop Douglas

1742
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 6: maybe in like especially a certain type of role you

1743
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 6: know that you have him in, but even him, like

1744
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 6: I worry about volume and durability and like could he

1745
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 6: be really get targeted one hundred and twenty five.

1746
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,759
Speaker 5: Maybe a Josh receiver.

1747
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,040
Speaker 6: I don't think so, right, And so I mean really,

1748
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 6: when you look at the depth chart, I just I

1749
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 6: just wears like the reliability wears, like the consistency for

1750
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 6: many of those guys, even though they flash like Kaishan

1751
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 6: Booty had moments lash year.

1752
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 8: But you're not, you don't. Good team's not relying on

1753
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 8: a guy like Keishawn Mooody.

1754
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 4: Is Polpe redeemable, you know, new offensive staff, you know,

1755
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,040
Speaker 4: a fresh start.

1756
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,280
Speaker 3: Since some footage of him came out over the last

1757
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: week of him training, he's got a big old armbrace

1758
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,680
Speaker 3: on that he's you know, working out with. But I

1759
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 3: think that was an injury suffered towards the end of

1760
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,960
Speaker 3: the last couple of games, right like like the end

1761
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 3: of maybe the second last game of the season. I think,

1762
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 3: so he's you know a little bit in recovery as well.

1763
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 5: I don't know what to respect from him, So I

1764
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 5: would say, yes, he's redeemable. I think he's going to

1765
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 5: be with the you know, a second year Drake may

1766
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 5: which will help him and they should have better protection

1767
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 5: and all that stuff. But do you look and watch

1768
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 5: him and say Okay, this is a high end receiver.

1769
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 5: No do you think the skills like I know, we

1770
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 5: had a bad year. I'm trying to eliminate his performance.

1771
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 4: How can I do that? How can I go back

1772
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:48,759
Speaker 4: to what you see.

1773
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 5: In training camp when he was catching a million passes?

1774
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 5: Do you did you see high end ability?

1775
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 4: I didn't know, but I didn't see him.

1776
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 5: But he can be better than he was like on

1777
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 5: the during the.

1778
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 4: Camp, he could be a like a pe, you know,

1779
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 4: and cam'p he did what he was asked to do,

1780
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 4: and so I don't know if he had the opportunity

1781
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 4: to show us high end Okay.

1782
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 5: But I would say and I've been critical of to

1783
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 5: Mario Douglas as well, right because of the things that

1784
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 5: Evan just said. I don't know about him being a

1785
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 5: high volume kind of guy. I did see high end

1786
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 5: ability at times in practice when he's cutting across the

1787
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 5: field and all of a sudden, turning the corner for

1788
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 5: thirty yards and no one's catching, no one's near him.

1789
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 5: I didn't see that with Jalen Polk. I don't see

1790
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 5: the same Like now, they're different kinds of players. I

1791
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,040
Speaker 5: get that, but I don't see the same explosiveness the

1792
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 5: same athlete.

1793
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,559
Speaker 4: That one thing you could say, wow, you know.

1794
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 5: Yes, I would say that Polk figures to get better

1795
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 5: with Josh McDaniels and with the second year Drake May.

1796
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 5: But how much better will he be? I don't know

1797
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 5: what his ceiling. I don't know that his ceiling is

1798
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 5: very high.

1799
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 8: I don't think it was very high coming out, Like.

1800
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 5: I got you guys were both very Lukewarman the pick

1801
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 5: that the day had happened.

1802
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 6: Because I feel like we're kindred spirits when it comes

1803
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 6: to wide receivers.

1804
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 5: Like I think we do kind of like the same

1805
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 5: kinds of receivers.

1806
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 6: You know, I want guys that can run by people

1807
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 6: like imakers. I don't really have very much interest in like,

1808
01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 6: you know, the nine yard per catch guy, right, Like, yeah,

1809
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 6: it's cool to move the chains and you need that guy,

1810
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 6: but I want that guy on third down.

1811
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 5: But just to be such perfection out of the quarterback position,

1812
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 5: to operate like that. Yeah, and that's what you had

1813
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: for twenty years, Luther.

1814
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,639
Speaker 3: It's one of the great questions I got going into

1815
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 3: like OTA's camp. It's just like, what does Josh think

1816
01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 3: of these receivers? How does Josh see these guys fitting

1817
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 3: into everything. I haven't totally ruled out Polk. I hear

1818
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 3: everything Paul saying. I still think, you know that he

1819
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 3: could be a physical, reliable, strong handed number three, you know,

1820
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 3: that kind of guy that can can come in and

1821
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 3: that makes my area, especially if he's got two guys

1822
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: with some dynamic ability to move, you know, one guy

1823
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 3: you can move around and another guy with some speed

1824
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 3: on the outside, and then it maybe gets a little

1825
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 3: easier for Jalen Polk worries me about him. Was just

1826
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 3: he looks so lost last year. Is that going to

1827
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 3: get better with a Josh McDaniels offense. You know, we'll

1828
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:56,959
Speaker 3: we'll see.

1829
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,519
Speaker 5: Couple the lack of explosiveness in my view, my view,

1830
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 5: not fact, my view, with what looked to be sort

1831
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 5: of a shaky mental aspect of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1832
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 5: I would say the.

1833
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:11,519
Speaker 3: Whole room really. I mean that's why it's it's hard

1834
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 3: to single him out because I think the whole room

1835
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: had mental brain farts through off the season, and.

1836
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,280
Speaker 5: Your favorite Kendrick Bourne, my guy.

1837
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 6: I just wonder that is Josh, you know, are we

1838
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 6: still going to be doing the Edelman Welker slot and

1839
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 6: we're still doing all which is fine, like if we are,

1840
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 6: but you know, that's a very specific type of player

1841
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 6: that you have to go out and target, and they

1842
01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 6: exist in this draft.

1843
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 5: Your guy Miami.

1844
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 6: Comp him to Danny Emmon Doola. I think he's a

1845
01:22:38,120 --> 01:22:40,679
Speaker 6: clone of those types of guys. But you know, that's

1846
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,760
Speaker 6: that's not the big play down the field what I want, right,

1847
01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,599
Speaker 6: that's like we're going to run the little jukeer out

1848
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 6: and we're going to get open over the middle and

1849
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 6: we're gonna hit him, you know. So it is that

1850
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 6: still the archetype for Josh McDaniels in the middle of

1851
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 6: the field and the slot receivers and the tight ends

1852
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:58,759
Speaker 6: or you know, in Vegas they did try to pivot

1853
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 6: DeVante Adams, you know, and like have a little.

1854
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 8: Bit more of an outside a little bit though.

1855
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, then Jacoby obviously Myers, you know, goes there to

1856
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,679
Speaker 6: be the same kind of guy. So I just wonder

1857
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 6: with that aspect of like, you know, what, what type

1858
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 6: of receiver would they even be looking at in that respect,

1859
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 6: because I do think Polk has a little bit of

1860
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 6: Jacoby Myers like to his game, but I don't know

1861
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 6: if he's got the mental makeup that Jacoby did.

1862
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 4: All right, eight five five pass five hundred is the

1863
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,839
Speaker 4: TPX outline. Let's go to Brad in Ohio.

1864
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,560
Speaker 11: What's up Brad, hey, fellows, how you doing this afternoon?

1865
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 4: Okay?

1866
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 17: Good?

1867
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,200
Speaker 11: I got a few quick inside, real quick for you.

1868
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 11: I agree with Evan about Coaston or not. I want Coaston,

1869
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 11: love them, so we draw if we moved back into draft.

1870
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 11: I'm a Michigan fan, so you know, I'm not trying

1871
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 11: to be biased, but I want Coast because he's the

1872
01:23:56,600 --> 01:24:00,480
Speaker 11: younger too. If I'm not mistaken, I think Evan knows,

1873
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 11: and that would be moved back to twelve and fifteen.

1874
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 11: But I'm not outside the realms of drafting Mason Graham either,

1875
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 11: for the reasons. He's an A plus path rusher, a

1876
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 11: plus blockshtter, especially if somebody's trying to block him one

1877
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 11: on one. God luck with that, and he is stamina.

1878
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:23,000
Speaker 11: Evan's kind of maybe right with that in double teams.

1879
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 5: I kind of, you.

1880
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 11: Know, gravitate towards what Evans said with that, But he

1881
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 11: is an A plus ever guy and he runs down

1882
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 11: place from the back, So that that's one thing I

1883
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 11: wanted to say, certainly, if we move back, I'd love

1884
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,680
Speaker 11: to see Coast in Loveland. I think he'd be an

1885
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 11: outstanding fit. I don't know where Donovan. I think Alex

1886
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 11: Bird went and called, you know a couple of weeks ago,

1887
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 11: said that Donovan Edwards is seventh round draft pick. We

1888
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 11: can't let him slip that long, not in a Patriots uniform.

1889
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 11: We need to get him in the fifth round, fourth

1890
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 11: round something. And then Kenneth Grant, if we moved back,

1891
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 11: another defensive lineman Luthor Board, uh, Luther Burden, or if

1892
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 11: we if we moved back, if we could move back

1893
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:12,639
Speaker 11: up to grab those guys, and then a linebacker from

1894
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 11: Iowa Higgins, don't know what round he's gone, and he's

1895
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:20,639
Speaker 11: gonna be outstanding. Uh, Khalil Mauling more of a blocking

1896
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 11: type running back might fit. And the Henderson guy, where

1897
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 11: is he going to be drafted?

1898
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:32,839
Speaker 6: Running back from Ohio State? Probably like him and Junkins

1899
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 6: are probably both going to be Day two picks.

1900
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,880
Speaker 11: And then and then Josiah Stewart. Can we get him

1901
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 11: with the third pick, our last third pick?

1902
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 5: High school?

1903
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 4: Really?

1904
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 5: Right, that's the guy I'm thinking about, right? Well, he

1905
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 5: had that there was another guy at Michigan.

1906
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 4: That was just Stewart, one of my guys appreciate as

1907
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 4: you can tell, certainly a draft.

1908
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,240
Speaker 5: Thing is he left went out with the there's there's

1909
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 5: this a big time corner, right is Will Johnson?

1910
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:04,799
Speaker 8: Well Johnson, Yeah, yeah.

1911
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,519
Speaker 5: With no love for Will Johnson, the Michigan guy we

1912
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 5: had to gain.

1913
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 4: And everybody.

1914
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, Will Johnson's got got like some comps that are crazy,

1915
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 6: like Patrick Sartan, like this guy's going to be a stud.

1916
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 6: Other people are lower on him. But uh, he mentioned

1917
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 6: a couple of guys. I just watched Kenneth Grant and

1918
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 6: yesterday the nose tackle from Michigan, you know, more of

1919
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 6: like a you know four to three nose tackle one

1920
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:31,360
Speaker 6: you know, one shade whatever. But he's a good player.

1921
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 6: He's strong, you know, just really strong upper body. Uh,

1922
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 6: you know, not going to be moved. And uh, Jazia

1923
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,519
Speaker 6: Stewart's one of my Senior Bowl guys. Like he's somebody

1924
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 6: that I thought popped in Mobile, but he's not really

1925
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 6: really undersized. He's like six one, two hundred and forty

1926
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 6: two and forty five passes.

1927
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 5: Is the ever guy.

1928
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 8: So he's good to know. I have to ask him

1929
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 8: about that.

1930
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, you visit the Baseball Hall of Fame.

1931
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 8: He's an undersized pass of Fame.

1932
01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 4: Wow, why not are you? How do you ever it

1933
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:07,639
Speaker 4: overlooks you interested to get snubbed and Evert you get snubbed.

1934
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 5: No, it's a good question.

1935
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 3: They didn't discover his pitching.

1936
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 5: I'm a small hull guy. I wasn't good enough. The

1937
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 5: running wasn't it wasn't good.

1938
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 4: They got guys are twenty four and in high school,

1939
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 4: so you know what, Yeah, you have a lot of

1940
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 4: old guys in Evert.

1941
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 5: And yeah, no, yeah, no, they're big time recruits coming.

1942
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 5: Well now they don't have any they don't have the

1943
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 5: same talent. But these gets like Lewis Cene and Sandra

1944
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 5: Still and these guys were big time recruits. They were

1945
01:27:36,240 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 5: not overage kids when they went to college. These were

1946
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:40,799
Speaker 5: blue chippers, both good players.

1947
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 8: So it's Jasiah Stewart.

1948
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 4: Do you want?

1949
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 5: And Isaiah likely was also on.

1950
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:48,400
Speaker 6: If you want a guy off the edge and that

1951
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 6: just is going to be a menace on third downs,

1952
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,200
Speaker 6: then that's Josiah Stewart.

1953
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 8: But if you want to top the run, then that's

1954
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:55,160
Speaker 8: not for you.

1955
01:27:55,600 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 6: But he's he's you know, Joshua Jay is now like

1956
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,800
Speaker 6: that type of player, maybe a little bit more explosive.

1957
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,759
Speaker 4: Andrews and Marlborough. What's up? Andrew?

1958
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:09,400
Speaker 10: Hi, So first time, longtime.

1959
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 4: How are you good?

1960
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 3: Great?

1961
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 18: So I'm calling actually to plug a charity event that's

1962
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 18: going on right now. A sports YouTuber called Tom Grossi

1963
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 18: is live streaming as we speak. He started last Sunday

1964
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 18: and he's trying to raise a million dollars for the

1965
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 18: Fallen Patriots charity. It's a charity that sends kids to

1966
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 18: college who had parents who died while serving in the military.

1967
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 18: So I was hoping to get the word out and

1968
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:40,400
Speaker 18: kind of spread the news that that's going on right now.

1969
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 4: Okay, that's on YouTube Fallen Patriots.

1970
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,000
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1971
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:48,600
Speaker 18: The guy's name is Tom Grosse. He was in h

1972
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 18: He stopped by Julette like two years ago raising money

1973
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 18: for Saint Jude's. So he's been doing a lot of

1974
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 18: raising money for charity. I think I remember the event

1975
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 18: is Falling Patriots.

1976
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 4: Great, all right, thanks thanks for the shout up. Thanks Andrew.

1977
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 4: When he said fall I thought he meant like ex

1978
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,480
Speaker 4: Patriots players.

1979
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,799
Speaker 5: Right, you know, but I thought he was just plugging

1980
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 5: someone that's a good cost YouTube channel. What that's obviously

1981
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 5: a good cost.

1982
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 4: Uh, Patty's an agawam, Hey, Patty's going on?

1983
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:22,719
Speaker 19: Jen Hey, yo, I just had a quick question about

1984
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:26,800
Speaker 19: Dale and pol We saw how in college when he

1985
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 19: was the third fiddle he could play, you know, he

1986
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 19: put up good numbers. I mean, he actually looked like

1987
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 19: a viable player. So my question is, let's say we

1988
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 19: get and this is just one up scenarios. Let's say

1989
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 19: we get Godwin and sorry for the noise, and we

1990
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 19: drafted McMillan or somebody like David Higgens to be our

1991
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,040
Speaker 19: ex outside guy. Do you think we can kind of

1992
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 19: selve his career or do you think there's Do you

1993
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,599
Speaker 19: think he's so in his head from this past year

1994
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:57,400
Speaker 19: that there's no selves against his career because we know

1995
01:29:57,439 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 19: how guys don't produce good in the first year, they

1996
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 19: generally produce it all.

1997
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I don't think so.

1998
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 3: I mean I think if we just kind of went

1999
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 3: over that, yeah, I think he's getting a fresh chance

2000
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 3: a little bit with Josh coming back. But I mean

2001
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 3: that could go one of two ways. I mean, it

2002
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 3: could be Josh isn't really interested in him and he

2003
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:15,120
Speaker 3: can't pick up Josh, or it could.

2004
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,560
Speaker 4: How much of an indicator will be spring practices and

2005
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 4: where guys are lined up, and how Josh is using

2006
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 4: them even though they're in shorts and the like. Will

2007
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 4: that give us any indication of the research that he's

2008
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 4: done in the opinion that he has going in on

2009
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 4: some of these guys.

2010
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, i'd wonder if Folk's going to be

2011
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,600
Speaker 3: healthy ready to go, at least specifically to him. But

2012
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 3: of course we'll overanalyze all that stuff.

2013
01:30:37,439 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also would like to see what kind

2014
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,320
Speaker 5: of moves they make. You know, in Patty's scenario, you

2015
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,919
Speaker 5: have Chris Godwin or you know, sort of a similar

2016
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,559
Speaker 5: veteran free agent in addition to you know, a fairly

2017
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 5: significant draft pick wide receiver. So if you have those

2018
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 5: two guys you know in the mix, say in May,

2019
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,559
Speaker 5: and you have Polk with them, I would say that's significant. Now,

2020
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 5: if Polk is just out there and you know you

2021
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 5: didn't add those two guys, I don't think that's it

2022
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 5: as significant. It's like, well, Polk was out there, you start,

2023
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 5: I think you start might have started the first game

2024
01:31:13,479 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 5: of the year. You know, Like, what significance do we

2025
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 5: take from that? Well, that's they don't have much. You know,

2026
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:26,960
Speaker 5: it's Douglas. It's a little bit of booty sometimes and

2027
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 5: then you know you're a guy born when he's lined

2028
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 5: up properly and Polk.

2029
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 8: I think that's a big I am.

2030
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 6: I'm not putting any eggs in the jail and pulk

2031
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 6: basket like it's going to.

2032
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 5: Have to show me something first.

2033
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,840
Speaker 6: I just think it's a big lead for him to

2034
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 6: go from last year to all of a suddenly. You know,

2035
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:48,479
Speaker 6: I think if you had a five hundred yard you know,

2036
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 6: season next year, that I would be like that.

2037
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 5: That'd be great.

2038
01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, great progress, right well, Jeremiah writes in he says,

2039
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 4: I don't know if you watched Steve Smith's report report

2040
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 4: card on Poke, but it seemed really insightful. He pointed

2041
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,960
Speaker 4: out a bunch of Poke struggles see stem from the

2042
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 4: team situation and the coaching from Van Pelton Underwood. If

2043
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 4: you haven't watched it, I highly recommend it and would

2044
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 4: like to know your thoughts if Pok could succeed better

2045
01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 4: under better coaching or is it more of a skill issue.

2046
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 5: I think it's both. I think you will succeed better

2047
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 5: with Josh McDaniels, but I don't think that there's this

2048
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 5: like reservoir of ability.

2049
01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 6: That that was my point about bringing up the five

2050
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 6: hundred yard thing was because like.

2051
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 8: What's the ceiling like?

2052
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:36,720
Speaker 6: Even if it does look better for Jalen Polk, I'm

2053
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 6: not I'm not like gonna be fool to think that

2054
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,679
Speaker 6: he's gonna have a thousand yard season in year two,

2055
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 6: Like it's still gonna be modest, I would think and

2056
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,880
Speaker 6: deduce his point originally about him, like a lot of

2057
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 6: it was just like mental and like game instincts and

2058
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,839
Speaker 6: mental toughness, so that before we even get to the ability,

2059
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 6: like that.

2060
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 5: Your offensive system was the same for everybody.

2061
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:57,639
Speaker 2: Right.

2062
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 5: Did Douglas look better than Polk?

2063
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

2064
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 5: Did Booty look better than Polk?

2065
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

2066
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 5: So like Booty and Polk, I mean I chose those

2067
01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,799
Speaker 5: those guys because they both second year, sixth round picks.

2068
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 5: So it's not like I'm comparing him to Randy Moss

2069
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 5: in his prime, right, I'm comparing him to guys that

2070
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,719
Speaker 5: he was a second round pick. Right, theoretically he should

2071
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 5: have more ability, yeap.

2072
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he didn't look like he did. It's just

2073
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 3: so jarring. I mean that you guys can probably speak

2074
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 3: to it. More than I can. But I've said before

2075
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 3: like I've never seen a player just look productive in camp,

2076
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:33,720
Speaker 3: look like he got it. Looked like he was just

2077
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,960
Speaker 3: gonna be a part of things and be consistently around

2078
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 3: the ball, maybe make some catches to going from that

2079
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 3: to twelve catches and looking like he can't even run.

2080
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,280
Speaker 5: Like specifically, I would argue Taekwon Thornton look the same

2081
01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 5: in training camp, but then he got hurt. He broke

2082
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,560
Speaker 5: his collar bone in that Panthers preseason game, and I

2083
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 5: don't think he was ever really the same his rookie year.

2084
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:58,679
Speaker 5: Then he kept you know, showing an inconsistencies and couldn't

2085
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:02,040
Speaker 5: stay healthy. I think his issues were different. But to

2086
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,760
Speaker 5: your point, Polk was a guy who was on the

2087
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 5: practice field every day catching a ton of passes. Nothing

2088
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 5: really appeared to happen, and all of a sudden he

2089
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 5: wasn't the same guy when when the game started.

2090
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,479
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, if you think there's a little story

2091
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 3: there with not getting his feet down, and you know,

2092
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 3: I mean from that point in that in that game,

2093
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 3: it's just that where it really totally unraveled because he

2094
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 3: was involved in me I think was the second or

2095
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 3: third game they target him a bunch, like it seemed like,

2096
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, we got to get this guy going, and

2097
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,440
Speaker 3: then it just after that moment, had some bad comments afterwards.

2098
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 5: It just feels, first of all.

2099
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 6: The production wasn't good the rules for the whole time,

2100
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:43,439
Speaker 6: but there were flashes of separation and stuff, and I

2101
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 6: kept them saying to myself early on, like trying to

2102
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 6: get but like when Drake.

2103
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 5: Made there was one deep ball that Jakobe under throw,

2104
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 5: it might have been that game might have been to Miami, you.

2105
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 6: Know, and when they get Drake may and there, like

2106
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 6: is he going to put the ball on him more?

2107
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 6: And he made a nice move on that route against Miami,

2108
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 6: not up the back of the end zone, and he

2109
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 6: didn't get his second foot in bounds, and the just

2110
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 6: completely unraveled for him from there. And I even if

2111
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 6: you watched the route, like it's a nice little route

2112
01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 6: that he runs to get open and then he just

2113
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 6: he just didn't get the foot.

2114
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,479
Speaker 5: And in terms of just having confidence that he can

2115
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:21,839
Speaker 5: sort of be, you know, resurrected, that's probably the biggest

2116
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 5: thing that stands in the way for me is he

2117
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:27,160
Speaker 5: had that play happened and he completely went in the

2118
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 5: tank like that. My biggest concern would be does he

2119
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 5: have the mental toughness?

2120
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 4: Audrey says, what's going on today?

2121
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 2: Guys?

2122
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 4: The show's so flat, very low energy. Are you all

2123
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:42,360
Speaker 4: tired of winter and shoveling? Paul looks tired and depressed.

2124
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 4: You do look a little down today. What's going on?

2125
01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 5: I got things?

2126
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:50,280
Speaker 4: You got things going on? Yeah, off field stuff. No,

2127
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,640
Speaker 4: it's all too nice. It's all too serious. Where are

2128
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:57,120
Speaker 4: the questions for Fred about his vacation? And why isn't

2129
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 4: Fred needling deuce about the semi disastrous show was last week? Wow?

2130
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 4: Is that's true?

2131
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 2: What happened?

2132
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 5: When I was going you weren't here show Thursday?

2133
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 4: What happened?

2134
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2135
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 3: I actually we got some compliments, but just tough on me.

2136
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 5: So I Tuesday show I thought was was really good,

2137
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:16,760
Speaker 5: but you know, as good as they can be with

2138
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 5: as good as they can be without you, And we

2139
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 5: had phone issues. Tuesday show was an absolute disaster back here.

2140
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 3: Fair enough, but not my phone.

2141
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 5: It wasn't your guys fault from a content perspective, the

2142
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 5: board's fault.

2143
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 4: Well, I don't like to I was hoping that you

2144
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 4: guys would be able to you know, keep things going.

2145
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:38,600
Speaker 3: I don't know. You have to ask ad you to

2146
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,880
Speaker 3: expand upon her. That's the first I've heard of it.

2147
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 5: So what happened on Thursday?

2148
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: I thought we had we had matists, we talked to

2149
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we did talk a little Drake and Kendrick

2150
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 3: Lamar about being a Drake fan. Yeah, but otherwise it

2151
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:52,320
Speaker 3: was I thought it was.

2152
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 2: It was fun.

2153
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:55,280
Speaker 3: It's fun. Went by pretty quick. We'd read a lot

2154
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 3: of emails, So thank you everybody the email. No problems

2155
01:36:58,200 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 3: with the phones. I don't know.

2156
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 5: Right back in, poor Fred is thinking I can never

2157
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 5: take another bit.

2158
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 4: I'm worried. You know, I need my time off sometimes,

2159
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 4: tree Hugger and Oregon writes in one of my favorite

2160
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,400
Speaker 4: parts of Patriots Unfiltered is hearing Mike's many sonorous mms,

2161
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 4: most often heard as he lends his support or affirmation

2162
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 4: to a cogent point made by a fellow PU member.

2163
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 4: They are subtle, but once you start listening for them,

2164
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,519
Speaker 4: they are everywhere, a low rumble that provides the sonic

2165
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 4: foundation of Pew's exquisite auditory ambience. All Right, maybe Marine

2166
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 4: Matt can work his editing magic to give us a

2167
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:46,960
Speaker 4: cutup of a string of these stentorian vibrations. I imagine

2168
01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 4: it might very well resemble that nineteen ninety three hit

2169
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 4: song mm mmm mmm mm by the Canadian rock band

2170
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,280
Speaker 4: Crash Test Dummies. Perhaps Stews could use it as a

2171
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 4: demo reel to showcase his vocal talents and Springboard is

2172
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: musical recording career. One can a there was this boy?

2173
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:06,480
Speaker 2: Whoever?

2174
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:07,080
Speaker 3: That one?

2175
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 9: It's gonna sound like a scene from Private Parts.

2176
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 20: It's so hard geter around nineties music that you don't

2177
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 20: know the song.

2178
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 3: It's very very deep voice.

2179
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 4: Okay, do you notice yourself doing that a lot?

2180
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 3: I will now, I'm sure. So thanks for pointing out.

2181
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 8: That's on your notes from Jerry that.

2182
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 3: I know, just Jerry that one.

2183
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,080
Speaker 4: Brian's a Delaware what's up, Brian?

2184
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: Hey?

2185
01:38:39,760 --> 01:38:40,280
Speaker 17: How you doing?

2186
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 4: Okay?

2187
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: All right?

2188
01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:45,879
Speaker 17: Yeah, we need a big change, man, we need to rebuild.

2189
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 17: I was like kind of hurt, you know, saying we

2190
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,639
Speaker 17: need a good draft pick. You know, I was kind

2191
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,479
Speaker 17: of hurt when the Patriots passed off on Jay. Hurt

2192
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 17: that time, you know, with the draft pick, and then

2193
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 17: you had Smith there too, and you had you know, back,

2194
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,600
Speaker 17: you had Jones and all those guys like, you know,

2195
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 17: they had Jones, they could have got smiffed. I'm like, oh,

2196
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 17: on what are they doing? You know what I'm saying.

2197
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 17: But you know, I got trust the process, you know,

2198
01:39:10,680 --> 01:39:14,240
Speaker 17: with the draft pick of what you know Philichick was doing,

2199
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:17,680
Speaker 17: you know, trusting Bill, you know even you know with

2200
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 17: the picks that they had. You know, it was you know, Jones.

2201
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 17: He needed someone to throw to, you know. He you know,

2202
01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 17: I'm I'm a huge Alabama fan by the way, I

2203
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:30,680
Speaker 17: got from I'm from Alabama. Yeah, it hurts me, you know,

2204
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 17: every every day. You know, they couldn't get hurt Like

2205
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 17: he was sitting right there. I'm like, why did they

2206
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 17: get them?

2207
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 2: You know?

2208
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 17: Yeah, but we need a rebuild. I think you need

2209
01:39:40,240 --> 01:39:44,839
Speaker 17: a ribe receiver, you know first, same versus a receiver.

2210
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 17: I mean Odell Beckham. You know, he's I don't know,

2211
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 17: you know how his his history is on well, I

2212
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 17: think he was hurt or something like that. He got

2213
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,040
Speaker 17: hurt of and you know, yeah, he's wild. Yeah, yeah,

2214
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:00,920
Speaker 17: I mean they need a veteran somebody on a veteran guy. Yeah,

2215
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 17: they should, you know, take a chance on Odell.

2216
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,719
Speaker 4: And then you know, what do you think of Milroe?

2217
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 5: Uh?

2218
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 17: Great guy.

2219
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 4: Great, great guy. Can't play though, right, Yeah, Phil was right?

2220
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 4: All right, thanks for the call, Brian a.

2221
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: Lot.

2222
01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 5: Does anybody know who Smith or Jones?

2223
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,000
Speaker 6: Assuming he was talking about Davonte Smith and Mac Jones,

2224
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 6: Matt Jones. But Davanta Smith went ahead of Mac Jones

2225
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 6: in that draft.

2226
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,760
Speaker 5: So but I thought he was saying like they they

2227
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 5: passed on Hurts. That's why I got confused. And Smith

2228
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:48,000
Speaker 5: and Jones were there, Yeah, correct, So I got really confused.

2229
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,639
Speaker 5: But he was talking about Smith and Jones.

2230
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 8: I think the order of He's got the order a

2231
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 8: little bit messed up.

2232
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 5: So I saw a big chart that had the college

2233
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,320
Speaker 5: of the Super Bowl winning.

2234
01:40:59,080 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 3: Quarterback Michigan, Yes, represented.

2235
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:09,800
Speaker 5: And they list Hurts as Alabama. Yeah, not Oklahoma.

2236
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:10,280
Speaker 3: It's weird.

2237
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was weird too.

2238
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,639
Speaker 8: I would say Alabama, but I would.

2239
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,680
Speaker 5: Say where he finished his career.

2240
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 6: Where he graduated from his degree full seasons at Alabama.

2241
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,480
Speaker 8: Was acually went to Alabama.

2242
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 5: No, I know that, but there's a lot of guys

2243
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 5: that you know, like you wouldn't say Jaden Daniels, Arizona State.

2244
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 5: He's finished his career at LSU, right, that's fair. He

2245
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:34,200
Speaker 5: played three years ago.

2246
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's fair.

2247
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 4: I agree listing Alabama, you.

2248
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:40,479
Speaker 8: Can give him to Oklahoma.

2249
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:44,840
Speaker 5: I just think it was because it was Alabama, right, Okahoma. Yeah,

2250
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,280
Speaker 5: but it ain't Saban. It ain't the Saban machine.

2251
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 2: I know.

2252
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 5: But like you got to give Saban credit for another one.

2253
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 4: To be accurate, you would kind of like Bill, you

2254
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 4: would list both. I guess to Alabama slash Oklahoma. He

2255
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 4: was he got. You can't do that. Then you'd list

2256
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 4: where he Grabb situated from his last school.

2257
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 5: I would go by where he finished. It was like

2258
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,200
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield, you know, didn't he started like Oklahoma.

2259
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 8: He was at Oklahoma.

2260
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 5: I mean where did he start Oklahoma? No, I think

2261
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:18,679
Speaker 5: he started somewhere else. Okay, I could be I could

2262
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 5: be right on that.

2263
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 4: I thought he transferred Everett. I think he started at Everett.

2264
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:23,640
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2265
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 5: He's not that good.

2266
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 6: When Jalen hurts his name, I think I do think Alabama.

2267
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:31,840
Speaker 6: I think probably because he was more that his team

2268
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 6: was more successful at Alabama, whereas he was probably better

2269
01:42:36,240 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 6: at Oklahoma. But he was also you know, it was

2270
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 6: his last year in college. But yeah, I when I

2271
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 6: when someone says to me, where did Jalen.

2272
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:44,640
Speaker 5: Hurts, Texas tech baker Mayfield.

2273
01:42:44,240 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 3: Started, do you think the makers of this chart went

2274
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,120
Speaker 3: through that much discussion? And thought?

2275
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,360
Speaker 5: I just thought it was odd. I think that I'm

2276
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,920
Speaker 5: with Fred. I think they made a mistake.

2277
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 3: Johnny he went to Oklahoma. Oh oh yeah, that's right.

2278
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 4: Jack in a abba. Regarding whether Fred is low energy

2279
01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 4: from shoveling snow, Fred is absolutely not low energy from

2280
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 4: snuggling show shoveling snow. He's a low energy because he

2281
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 4: uses a snowblower. If Fred's shovel snow the old fashioned

2282
01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 4: way with a snow shovel, and he wrote show shovel,

2283
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,040
Speaker 4: so I yeah.

2284
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:27,240
Speaker 3: If you shout his shovel, yeah.

2285
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I read it right, whatever's on the prime, he

2286
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:30,439
Speaker 4: would be invigorated. I did both.

2287
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:31,679
Speaker 5: That was a tough one.

2288
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 4: Well, the last one earlier.

2289
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 5: Sunday was a tough one.

2290
01:43:34,720 --> 01:43:37,160
Speaker 4: If you was shoveling, Oh yeah, that was that was

2291
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:37,719
Speaker 4: a mess.

2292
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:39,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you didn't get as much down your way.

2293
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 4: It started pouring rain.

2294
01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:46,880
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but that was heavy with the snow blower.

2295
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 2: It was heavy.

2296
01:43:47,439 --> 01:43:49,640
Speaker 3: God bless my neighbor. He came and just plowed our

2297
01:43:49,680 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 3: driveway for us. I gave him a thank you shout out.

2298
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 3: He should have baked him brownies or something.

2299
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2300
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 3: Saved my back because I just did the walkway and

2301
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 3: I was like every scoop was like.

2302
01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:03,880
Speaker 4: But the one before that I did was able to

2303
01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:06,320
Speaker 4: get the snowblower out and I haven't used it in

2304
01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 4: a couple of years.

2305
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:09,599
Speaker 5: I've used it the last two storms.

2306
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, need it this year.

2307
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:13,880
Speaker 5: Definitely needed its Sunday. Yeah, that would have been a

2308
01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:17,479
Speaker 5: disaster if I was that's strictly shoveling. And I was

2309
01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 5: by myself too because the boys were gone, but TJ

2310
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 5: was working Will's at school.

2311
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 4: Uh not that they would have helped you if they were.

2312
01:44:25,479 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 5: They all believe me they would have helped me that day.

2313
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:32,439
Speaker 4: Okay, get your correct chat in LA. Question for the

2314
01:44:32,439 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 4: group regarding the draft, is there any reason this year

2315
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 4: to trade up? I'm thinking about Abdul Carter in particular.

2316
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,639
Speaker 4: I know we need a lot, but if we're willing

2317
01:44:41,680 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 4: to spend money to fill other positions, is there any

2318
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 4: logic to it?

2319
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm looking at the ball.

2320
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 4: No, you just have to give up stuff and you

2321
01:44:51,120 --> 01:44:51,599
Speaker 4: know a lot.

2322
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:55,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just when it comes to these trade scenarios,

2323
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 6: I keep coming back to the same thing, like why

2324
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 6: is the other team doing it? Like I can come

2325
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 6: up with a million arguments for the Patriots wanting to

2326
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 6: trade up, trade down, whatever, but I don't. I just

2327
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 6: don't think that this is the draft where that movement happens,

2328
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:13,320
Speaker 6: because usually the movement happens for quarterbacks, right, So, like

2329
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,240
Speaker 6: you know, teams that don't need quarterbacks move back, and

2330
01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:18,760
Speaker 6: the teams that do need quarterbacks move up. But in

2331
01:45:18,800 --> 01:45:22,120
Speaker 6: this draft, if you're not Google Gaga over the quarterbacks,

2332
01:45:22,439 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 6: then what's the why are we creating all this movement for?

2333
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,639
Speaker 6: So like if you're the Titans and you're not taking

2334
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 6: the quarterbacks, you ruled the quarterbacks out, Like why are

2335
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:35,160
Speaker 6: you giving abdul Carter to the Patriots and then going

2336
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 6: back to four and then getting nobody right?

2337
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 2: Right?

2338
01:45:39,080 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 4: Like?

2339
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 6: So like that that's the part that I guess. You know,

2340
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 6: everybody has a price, Like if you came at them

2341
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 6: and you gave them three first round picks, then like

2342
01:45:46,240 --> 01:45:48,680
Speaker 6: maybe they would do it, But why would the Patriots

2343
01:45:48,680 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 6: do that?

2344
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 2: Right?

2345
01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 5: So it's hard to argue with that.

2346
01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:54,799
Speaker 4: Yep, uh Russell and Florida. Do you think the Patriots

2347
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 4: could go mostly defense in the draft and look to

2348
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,280
Speaker 4: free agency and aids for offense. I haven't dug into

2349
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 4: the draft or free agency yet, but I'm assuming neither

2350
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 4: is loaded with talent off season. Question, excuse me, how

2351
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 4: to meatballs up? What is one player preferably a star

2352
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 4: or big name guy that was brought to the team

2353
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,920
Speaker 4: in the Brady era that you were excited about but

2354
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 4: didn't work out at all, and one player that you

2355
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 4: always thought would be a Patriot at some point. Mine

2356
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,720
Speaker 4: is Chad Johnson and JJ Watt.

2357
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 5: Guys that you were excited about that didn't work out.

2358
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 3: Robert Gallery, I kind of say, a Dahlius Thomas. I

2359
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 3: don't think he was a total disaster, but I was

2360
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 3: way more excited than it.

2361
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 4: Actually, examples of John lynch.

2362
01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:43,759
Speaker 5: Daylyss Thomas.

2363
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 4: But you're.

2364
01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:49,680
Speaker 5: Chad, Chad Johnson would be would I mean, I kind

2365
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,200
Speaker 5: of excited. He was already done, but there was excitement.

2366
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:55,839
Speaker 5: Cam Newton, but you know, like they Cam.

2367
01:46:55,720 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 20: Newton, Handsworth, Yeah, DoD Stalwart was and then all of

2368
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 20: a sudden they go out and get Randy Moss after that,

2369
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 20: and you're like.

2370
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,519
Speaker 8: Oh right, I thought I thought Star Wars was the guy.

2371
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 3: The thing with Antonio Brown was like you got a

2372
01:47:12,040 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 3: brief glimpse of how good it could have been for

2373
01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 3: just a second.

2374
01:47:14,760 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 6: When they won that game in Miami with Antonio Brown,

2375
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 6: I was like, they're gonna win the Super Bowl.

2376
01:47:19,120 --> 01:47:22,639
Speaker 8: But that was like they were they looked Untoggie Wayne.

2377
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 5: So I don't those kinds of moves, you know, the

2378
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,679
Speaker 5: Tory Holts and Reggie Wayne's, the Joey Galloway wires, they were. Yeah,

2379
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 5: they were like sort of taking a shot and you

2380
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 5: know later in their careers. But there was some guys

2381
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 5: that you know, like a daylyss Thomas is probably the

2382
01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,479
Speaker 5: best example, Like this is a guy that's supposed to

2383
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,320
Speaker 5: be in his prime that was going to be this

2384
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 5: different guy and he wasn't.

2385
01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 3: He was he was playing.

2386
01:47:48,600 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 5: He was good in O seven and then he really

2387
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 5: tailed off. I remember when he had the pick six

2388
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 5: against the Chargers. Yeah, I don't know, everybody was just

2389
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 5: going crazy and then he really never did much.

2390
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: That's pretty good in the Super Bowl if I remember,

2391
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:06,280
Speaker 3: like like I don't know stats wise.

2392
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:08,479
Speaker 5: But Fitzgerald would be the guy that they never.

2393
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:12,160
Speaker 4: What about Julius Peppers. Remember we had Vi, We have

2394
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 4: Vic Carucci on the show Live and studio saying they're

2395
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:19,479
Speaker 4: they're gonna I know from a good source that Julius

2396
01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:22,600
Speaker 4: Peppers is going to be a Patriot. Yeah. I was

2397
01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 4: going to say, Larry Fitzgerald, he's still at the Hurts Counter.

2398
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:30,679
Speaker 6: I thought for sure that, like he's in the last leg,

2399
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,759
Speaker 6: Larry Fitzgerald and Bill loves them, come play with Brady,

2400
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 6: maybe win a ring.

2401
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,560
Speaker 8: You cap off the career such a perfect.

2402
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,000
Speaker 5: Like Brady receive and then he made this, you know,

2403
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:42,520
Speaker 5: the transition later in his career to the slot.

2404
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:44,599
Speaker 8: Yeah. I thought that.

2405
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:47,640
Speaker 6: I thought that Larry Fitzgerald would finally grow sick of

2406
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 6: losing in Arizona and come to the Patriots.

2407
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2408
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 4: That's a good question though.

2409
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 5: But there were a lot of guys that I had,

2410
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:57,880
Speaker 5: you know, like there was a couple of tight ends

2411
01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 5: in there that I was excited about. I mean, John

2412
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,679
Speaker 5: Smith would be very recent one, but like like Dwayne Allen,

2413
01:49:03,760 --> 01:49:06,320
Speaker 5: I think they traded for he never really panned out

2414
01:49:06,320 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 5: to do anything.

2415
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, Scott Chandler, Oh yeah, the four.

2416
01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 5: Tight end thing. Everybody was over right, you know, I

2417
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:15,799
Speaker 5: forgot about him, never did anything.

2418
01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,880
Speaker 8: Marty Bennett was good. That was a good signing.

2419
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:20,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good signing.

2420
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's just to ask him.

2421
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:24,919
Speaker 8: Michael Bennett.

2422
01:49:25,000 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 4: No, martellis Martell's bene.

2423
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:28,439
Speaker 5: Just ask him. I don't think that.

2424
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 8: Don't do they do? They win twenty eight to three?

2425
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 4: They did? He danced with the cheerleaders after the AFC championed.

2426
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:39,320
Speaker 6: I think I think he was not the I do

2427
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 6: Speiak to that team twenty sixteen.

2428
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:43,120
Speaker 5: He'll tell you.

2429
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 4: A good question, though, Ed Wright saying, I assume Carter

2430
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:48,720
Speaker 4: and Hunter are gone.

2431
01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:52,639
Speaker 5: Michael Bennett would be an example of No. I'm saying, guy,

2432
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:54,120
Speaker 5: you were excited about it? Did nothing.

2433
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 8: I wasn't excited about that one.

2434
01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 5: Michael Bennett was a beast of a.

2435
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,759
Speaker 8: Player, really good for the Seahawks.

2436
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,479
Speaker 4: I assume Carter and Hunter are gone by the time

2437
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:05,840
Speaker 4: we pick it four. If we are not sold on

2438
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 4: any of the tackles at four, we are not sold

2439
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:11,480
Speaker 4: on Graham at four. Why don't we call the Chargers

2440
01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:14,479
Speaker 4: to see how much they want for Rashaan Slater. Joe

2441
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:17,160
Speaker 4: Walt wasn't drafted to play right tackle, and Slater will

2442
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:20,800
Speaker 4: need paying after this year. We have the cap space

2443
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,439
Speaker 4: to pay him, and he's young and better than what

2444
01:50:23,560 --> 01:50:24,839
Speaker 4: is available in the draft.

2445
01:50:25,680 --> 01:50:28,320
Speaker 6: So I think it's funny that the whole thing with

2446
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 6: Will Campbell is though we can't draft him because he

2447
01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 6: has short arms, so we're gonna go draft the poster

2448
01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:35,960
Speaker 6: child of short arm or a trade for the poster

2449
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 6: child of short arm tackles.

2450
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 8: I think all these trades.

2451
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,640
Speaker 6: Snarios are all well and good. I would probably do

2452
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 6: a handful of them, but I mean, I just don't

2453
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 6: find them to be too realistic.

2454
01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:50,360
Speaker 4: I guess. Dion Sanders was on the Rich Eisen Show

2455
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 4: sam from Saint Catherine's writes in and he says on

2456
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 4: the show he said that when it comes to Hunter,

2457
01:50:58,320 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 4: he thinks it'll be easier for Travis to do what

2458
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 4: he does in the NFL with lighter practices compared to college,

2459
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 4: more breaks and huddles during the game, and more rules,

2460
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 4: the gaining physicality on receivers and corners.

2461
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:12,240
Speaker 5: I don't have.

2462
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:17,800
Speaker 6: Much doubt about like endurance with him. It's the focus,

2463
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,679
Speaker 6: like it's like how much time.

2464
01:51:19,640 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 5: Ability, Like he's playing against the best in the world

2465
01:51:23,760 --> 01:51:27,760
Speaker 5: on both sides. And it's not about stamina. No, it's

2466
01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:30,680
Speaker 5: not about It's not just about stamina. It's about a

2467
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 5: lot of stuff.

2468
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,639
Speaker 6: I'm more worried about during the week, Like, yeah, there's

2469
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 6: a lot of prep. How do you do mental right,

2470
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:40,040
Speaker 6: Like how are you diving up his time during the

2471
01:51:40,080 --> 01:51:43,320
Speaker 6: week to study, Like if you're gonna have him play

2472
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 6: corner at a high clip and they're going against Miami

2473
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,800
Speaker 6: and he's got Tyreek Hill that week, like he's got

2474
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,640
Speaker 6: to be in the film room watching Tyreek Hill and

2475
01:51:53,680 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 6: studying him and studying his patterns and his releases and

2476
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 6: his movements and all that kind of stuff. And then

2477
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,240
Speaker 6: he also has to go worry about like whatever the

2478
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,120
Speaker 6: game plan is on offense and studying you know, that

2479
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,280
Speaker 6: side of the ball and worrying about that. Like it

2480
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 6: just that to me is like how do you put

2481
01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:12,559
Speaker 6: pack all of that into a work week and then

2482
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 6: come out on Sunday and put your best put forward?

2483
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 6: Not so much about the physical attributes of it.

2484
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:21,400
Speaker 4: Maybe the oom's from me because I do that a

2485
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 4: lot too. I wonder, you know, because when someone's talking

2486
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:28,320
Speaker 4: like Doucer myself or off camera, it could be me

2487
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 4: doing it.

2488
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, maybe I'm throwing my voice. Yeah,

2489
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:31,640
Speaker 3: can you do it?

2490
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it could be. Audrey has a follow up on

2491
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:36,719
Speaker 4: her low energy email.

2492
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 3: All right, let's hear.

2493
01:52:38,040 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 4: Just listen to the start of last Tuesday, Fred dou

2494
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:44,880
Speaker 4: sounds shaky hosting right off the bat. Apologies immediately that

2495
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:48,320
Speaker 4: it's him very nervous ad reads no smoothness or confidence.

2496
01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 4: It's like proclaiming this will probably be bad. Sorry fans. Wow,

2497
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 4: given the audio and phone problems weren't Mike's fault, but

2498
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 4: he struggled with any transitions to keep it going. I'm

2499
01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,000
Speaker 4: surprised he hasn't settled into this by now. I think

2500
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 4: he's trying too hard, trying to be like you, needs

2501
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 4: to find his own groove. I look forward to the

2502
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 4: day it doesn't sound awkward. Wow, all right, I think

2503
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 4: that's just awkward Mike. That's his thing.

2504
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 3: I'll try to do better.

2505
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:21,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's the he's the father who walks in

2506
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 4: on his son, you know, in the bathroom, like you know,

2507
01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:26,759
Speaker 4: it's awkward. It's awkward.

2508
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:34,960
Speaker 3: Hello, excuse me, bring a little energy to the show.

2509
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 4: You know what was yeah, hair jel Okay, Wow, you

2510
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 4: guys really are.

2511
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,400
Speaker 8: What the hell is wrong with transition?

2512
01:53:46,520 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 4: What is wrong with you?

2513
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:48,320
Speaker 2: What?

2514
01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,959
Speaker 3: Audrey just kicked out my three legged stool of self confidence?

2515
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:55,240
Speaker 3: So I'm you know, trying to.

2516
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,280
Speaker 4: You know what, maybe maybe Eldred can bring some energy

2517
01:53:57,320 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 4: to the show. What's up? Aldred? There we go you

2518
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 4: just because the big y'all pile up on ninety five?

2519
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 4: What's up?

2520
01:54:06,120 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 15: Uh?

2521
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:11,040
Speaker 10: Coach on highway for it? Hey, hey, Mike, you were fine, man,

2522
01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:12,000
Speaker 10: don't worry about that.

2523
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 3: Man, fine.

2524
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:17,599
Speaker 8: I listened to the podcast perfectly, you know what I mean.

2525
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

2526
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:22,280
Speaker 10: So hey, you great, Doug. Don't worry about that. You

2527
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:23,840
Speaker 10: don't know what you did.

2528
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 17: Butt's inspike the kool aid. But uh, I.

2529
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 10: Gotta trade scenario. And I know it might sound kind

2530
01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:35,440
Speaker 10: of funny, but I ain't got no plan for Pope.

2531
01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 10: I'll trade Pope ad Mitchell. They didn't use it that

2532
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,839
Speaker 10: much in uh Inneapolis, but he did have more yards,

2533
01:54:41,840 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 10: more touchdown and that's your outside receiver. But I let

2534
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 10: it go at that, and I'll hear y'all on the radio.

2535
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:52,080
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys all right, Thanks Eldred, just what we needed.

2536
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: Thanks Eldrick.

2537
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were fine, perfectly fine, you're fine.

2538
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,120
Speaker 5: Fine to the fine job. Fine sale, that's great.

2539
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,960
Speaker 3: Grand Yeah. I like ad Mitchell.

2540
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 4: That's it.

2541
01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 8: That's not great enough.

2542
01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 5: No, he didn't do much.

2543
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,880
Speaker 8: I look wrong on ad actual look close, he didn't.

2544
01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:11,640
Speaker 5: He didn't do the five to twenty five thing, right,

2545
01:55:11,680 --> 01:55:12,040
Speaker 5: I can.

2546
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 8: Not even close.

2547
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 5: What is it five?

2548
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 3: Who got the five twenty five?

2549
01:55:14,920 --> 01:55:18,160
Speaker 8: It's yeah, like fifty, I think five.

2550
01:55:18,560 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 3: I listen to the whole saying, what's five hundred receivers

2551
01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:21,960
Speaker 3: that got it last year?

2552
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 4: Pretty much?

2553
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:26,320
Speaker 6: Actually, it's actually not as many as you would think

2554
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:30,040
Speaker 6: outside of the first round, Like obviously all of the

2555
01:55:30,040 --> 01:55:35,520
Speaker 6: the first round guys did. Conky McConkie and uh Kean

2556
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:37,120
Speaker 6: Coleman I think just made it.

2557
01:55:37,200 --> 01:55:40,680
Speaker 8: He did, and then Jalen McMillan might.

2558
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:44,960
Speaker 5: Have worthy or yeah, first round okay, that's right, yeah,

2559
01:55:44,960 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 5: thirty two.

2560
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2561
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:48,360
Speaker 6: I was looking at this yesterday though, because like I

2562
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 6: actually do think this draft and over up against it.

2563
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,040
Speaker 6: But this draft I do think is decent Day two

2564
01:55:53,080 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 6: wide receivers, Like I think there are some Day two

2565
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:59,440
Speaker 6: wide receivers. I wrote about it today, but I thought

2566
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 6: it was the hit rate was higher last year than

2567
01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 6: it I ended up being when I went back and

2568
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 6: looked at it, like McConkie is obviously like the golden

2569
01:56:10,440 --> 01:56:12,879
Speaker 6: goose there, but outside of him, it wasn't.

2570
01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:18,080
Speaker 8: It wasn't like a ton of hits instantly, but there's

2571
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:21,080
Speaker 8: always one. Mconkie was the point I was trying.

2572
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,040
Speaker 5: To find him. Yeah, just ask Fred.

2573
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,839
Speaker 4: Curtis and Saint Louis will finish up with this email.

2574
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:30,640
Speaker 4: Three questions, Paul, further educate me please. I understand how

2575
01:56:30,720 --> 01:56:32,880
Speaker 4: free agency works, but can you tell me when teams

2576
01:56:32,880 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 4: are allowed to sign or extend their own players and

2577
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:39,520
Speaker 4: free agents? And when can other teams like the Patriots

2578
01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:42,400
Speaker 4: make calls to other teams about potential trade candidates.

2579
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,360
Speaker 5: You can do the former anytime if you want to

2580
01:56:45,440 --> 01:56:48,600
Speaker 5: extend a guy right now, like the Patriots extended Jeremiah

2581
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 5: Farms yep, like last week. He was going to be

2582
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 5: an exclusive rights free agent and I think they gave

2583
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 5: him two year deal.

2584
01:56:55,480 --> 01:56:56,400
Speaker 8: Mike correct.

2585
01:56:56,600 --> 01:57:00,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So you can extend a guy that's on you

2586
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:03,040
Speaker 5: team because he doesn't become an official free agent until

2587
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 5: the start of the league year, so he's still, you know,

2588
01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 5: your property, so to speak, to negotiate with. I think

2589
01:57:10,280 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 5: the tampering period.

2590
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:15,080
Speaker 6: Is what would you say, March the tampering period, and

2591
01:57:15,080 --> 01:57:16,320
Speaker 6: then the official league year is the.

2592
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 5: Twelfth, so that's officially when teams are allowed to have

2593
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:24,240
Speaker 5: these conversations. Now there is clearly going to be a

2594
01:57:24,280 --> 01:57:26,240
Speaker 5: lot of that going on at the combine. But these

2595
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,840
Speaker 5: teams that put out the flyers, you know, Cooper Cup.

2596
01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,160
Speaker 4: We're mean, we're open for business.

2597
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 5: They're they're calling you can they can call other teams,

2598
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 5: you can. You know, the Patriots can call teams and

2599
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 5: ask about the availability of T. Higgins in the trade

2600
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,880
Speaker 5: if they want to. That's not tampering, right, you can

2601
01:57:43,880 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 5: call And.

2602
01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,560
Speaker 4: So I just can't go to the player directly, right.

2603
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:49,400
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, like not without the permission of the team, right,

2604
01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 5: you know, And but you can call team. You know,

2605
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 5: gms can call gms and try to swing deals anytime

2606
01:57:56,920 --> 01:57:59,480
Speaker 5: to consummate the trade until the start of the league year.

2607
01:57:59,560 --> 01:57:59,640
Speaker 2: Right.

2608
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 4: I have a thought on the ball placement when it

2609
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 4: comes to first downs. I think think of an invisible

2610
01:58:05,080 --> 01:58:07,640
Speaker 4: dog fence. What if there's a chip in the ball

2611
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 4: and they had two sensors at each end, and then

2612
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:12,760
Speaker 4: they add sensors lasers on each of the first down markers.

2613
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 4: If at any time the ball passes the markers before

2614
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 4: the player is called dead, well that's the kind of

2615
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:21,600
Speaker 4: working on that. That's the idea. And finally, if there's time,

2616
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 4: a fun thing would you rather fun? Would you rather?

2617
01:58:26,080 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 4: For Evan, would you rather the Patriots make it to

2618
01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,840
Speaker 4: the super Bowl during May's rookie contract or get to

2619
01:58:32,920 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 4: sit in the Patriots war room and take in all

2620
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:37,839
Speaker 4: the magic during the next three drafts?

2621
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:38,280
Speaker 2: Good?

2622
01:58:38,280 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 5: Would you rather?

2623
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:40,360
Speaker 8: That's tough.

2624
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,760
Speaker 6: I'm gonna appease the masses in say super Bowl in

2625
01:58:45,760 --> 01:58:49,080
Speaker 6: his rookie contracts, so all of you can enjoy that together.

2626
01:58:49,320 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 6: But in my heart of hearts, the war room does

2627
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 6: sound pretty tempting.

2628
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,920
Speaker 5: But you would rather be in the war room? Yes,

2629
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:58,680
Speaker 5: for a potentially terrible draft. You have no way of

2630
01:58:58,680 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 5: knowing then super Bowl.

2631
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:02,120
Speaker 8: That's why I said I would do.

2632
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 5: I know, but you but you like, you're sort of

2633
01:59:04,360 --> 01:59:05,720
Speaker 5: making a concession for us.

2634
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 4: So what if you in the war room and you

2635
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:08,839
Speaker 4: can't say anything?

2636
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:10,760
Speaker 6: Well, I would think that would be the case. But

2637
01:59:10,840 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 6: a fly on the wall, like I would love to

2638
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:14,400
Speaker 6: be a fly on the wall just for some of

2639
01:59:14,440 --> 01:59:15,080
Speaker 6: the meetings.

2640
01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 3: That's why I think it would be almost more interesting,

2641
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:18,800
Speaker 3: because I think the draft meeting, the draft thing is

2642
01:59:18,840 --> 01:59:21,840
Speaker 3: kind of like, all right, so Joe blow, Joe blow, Yeah, Joe,

2643
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:24,160
Speaker 3: we'll go Joel Joebelo. Yeah, all right, you get him,

2644
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, like.

2645
01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 4: He wants to be in the war room so that

2646
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 4: when he has his debase with Barth and be like

2647
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 4: you're wrong, you're.

2648
01:59:29,880 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 8: Those are my favorite.

2649
01:59:30,960 --> 01:59:32,280
Speaker 5: I know we've had this before.

2650
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:32,600
Speaker 4: Trump.

2651
01:59:32,680 --> 01:59:35,560
Speaker 5: I really don't understand why you don't pursue a career

2652
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,680
Speaker 5: in it. I don't, and I'm being dead serious, like

2653
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 5: that's what that's what it. I didn't say you had

2654
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 5: the talent to do it, don't. I don't take it

2655
01:59:42,160 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 5: as a compliment. I'm saying, that's clearly what you want

2656
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 5: to do. Like, I don't really have a lot of

2657
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 5: interest in being a fly on the wall in that room,

2658
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:53,960
Speaker 5: Like would it be you know interesting that oh yeah,

2659
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,120
Speaker 5: they were they want to do so instead of azaar yeah,

2660
01:59:57,200 --> 02:00:00,080
Speaker 5: and then ten minutes later, I'd forget all about it,

2661
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:03,440
Speaker 5: the like he would be like that's his super Bowl.

2662
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

2663
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:07,160
Speaker 6: I think it's different, Like I obviously it's obviously for

2664
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,040
Speaker 6: some of that is to like know ahead of time

2665
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,040
Speaker 6: who they're but I also just want to hear how

2666
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:14,520
Speaker 6: they talk about the players, like because I think that

2667
02:00:14,640 --> 02:00:17,840
Speaker 6: the conversations they have are closer to the conversations we have.

2668
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,440
Speaker 5: And I don't think there's any question people realize.

2669
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 6: So I just want to see, like how far off

2670
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,200
Speaker 6: am I when I, like Barth and I are doing

2671
02:00:25,240 --> 02:00:26,160
Speaker 6: our thing.

2672
02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,160
Speaker 8: On Cash twenty two. Like I'm not saying that my

2673
02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:28,760
Speaker 8: knowledge is.

2674
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 6: At their level, but like how far off are we

2675
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 6: that you know we're Are we looking at the right things?

2676
02:00:33,600 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 6: Are we having the right conversations that that sort of yesterday?

2677
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 5: Congratulated him, he's going.

2678
02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 4: He's going to that's great on his own time. Yeah no, no, no,

2679
02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's got perdem So they have like

2680
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:50,880
Speaker 4: what's his role? Are you going to do a show

2681
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:51,960
Speaker 4: down there or what are they doing?

2682
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 6: They're going to have him go around and then he'll

2683
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:56,800
Speaker 6: call into the shows back home.

2684
02:00:56,920 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 4: You know, see the influence we have, they wouldn't done it.

2685
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,720
Speaker 4: We put pressure on he should thank us.

2686
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:05,080
Speaker 8: I don't want to. I don't want to drop.

2687
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:07,600
Speaker 6: But there were certain people at the station I believe

2688
02:01:07,600 --> 02:01:10,400
Speaker 6: that also put some pressure on them that are high ranking.

2689
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,560
Speaker 8: So it's all.

2690
02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,840
Speaker 4: Angles, okay, but it started here.

2691
02:01:15,240 --> 02:01:17,640
Speaker 3: So we're trying to do a live catch twenty two.

2692
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 3: You started at Freddy with our Guys, live live show

2693
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:22,800
Speaker 3: next week.

2694
02:01:22,600 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 4: Okay, to figure that out, all right, that's going to

2695
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:28,800
Speaker 4: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll probably

2696
02:01:29,120 --> 02:01:32,320
Speaker 4: be back on Thursday. We'll try to bring more energy.

2697
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Audrey. We'll do better on Thursday.

2698
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:36,320
Speaker 3: To Audrey, we'll see you then.

2699
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:36,960
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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02:01:38,800 --> 02:01:42,640
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Speaker 21: like a tutorial or something.

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