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Speaker 4: Your hosts Isaiah Standback, Patrick Walker, Josh Rodriguez and Kyle Yeomans.
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Speaker 3: whole cast and crew ready for you to rock today.
Speaker 3: We've got Patrick Noc Walker, Josh Rodriguez, Isaiah stand back,
Speaker 3: you're eating your.
Speaker 5: It's my turn. I know what early it is?
Speaker 3: Early?
Speaker 6: Where'd you getting from?
Speaker 3: It's never too early, folks.
Speaker 5: I got him from the internet. Let's go, and I
Speaker 5: picked them up here at the Cowboys facility.
Speaker 3: Nice, so very nice. They had the whole box waiting
Speaker 3: for you.
Speaker 5: Oh no for me. Yeah, I didn't have to go
Speaker 5: through the box process. Yeah, help me out, flips. Nice.
Speaker 5: You have your resources, Kyle, you gotta gotta make it happen.
Speaker 5: Gotta make it happen on my healthy tip v I you,
Speaker 5: I was getting a little hustbery.
Speaker 3: Poor you said, you tell me you're down how many
Speaker 3: pounds since last week?
Speaker 5: Well check me out, Kyle. Last week, I was just
Speaker 5: thinking that I stepped on the scale. You know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I'm gonna need my brothers to tell me
Speaker 5: when your boys getting.
Speaker 3: A little USSEDX seven pounds. I tell you everything.
Speaker 5: I stepped on the scale last week and I was
Speaker 5: two hundred and fifty four pounds. Two fifty four, mind you,
Speaker 5: as opposed to I normally hang around the two forty mark.
Speaker 7: If I'm not doing anything, sow you up like fourteen.
Speaker 5: Don't do that.
Speaker 3: So so I was like, I was math, I'm mathing.
Speaker 5: I tried to put on it. I try to put
Speaker 5: one of my normal suits and it just wouldn't fit
Speaker 5: in away and normally fits and it's custom suit, you know.
Speaker 3: Kind of like kind of like ripping the pants like
Speaker 3: SpongeBob not that kind of doing that.
Speaker 5: But but my top, but you know in your top
Speaker 5: button don't don't button head? Yeah yeah, So I have
Speaker 5: to make a change. So I started getting back on
Speaker 5: my cardio game. I started eating cleaner again and Bro.
Speaker 5: This morning, I wigh in, I did my little workout,
Speaker 5: came in, waited in right before I, you know, got
Speaker 5: in the shower to forty six baby.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, to be fair, you wear a lot of sweatshirts,
Speaker 4: so I didn't know if it was all guess what.
Speaker 3: No, you were you were a turkey neck.
Speaker 5: It was turkey. You were not turkey. There was noble.
Speaker 5: A young young Hutch took a picture of the other
Speaker 5: day at the stadium. I said, wait a minute, Jackson,
Speaker 5: is no doubles. Gotta make a change.
Speaker 6: I'm taking offense to all of this. And it was
Speaker 6: I'm not the one that my pants.
Speaker 3: I don't even think, I said, knows that story yet.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he ripped his pants the other day in the.
Speaker 3: Press box like me. They were busted out after pregame. Bro,
Speaker 3: I went and sat down and I'm talking o Bro.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, like belt line all the way down to
Speaker 3: the inner thigh.
Speaker 5: Absolutely rip.
Speaker 7: Yeah, like the whole back squaks, broquats.
Speaker 5: It's not what it was.
Speaker 3: It's more like fatherhood Dad bought is what it is.
Speaker 6: Disneyland Mickey popsicles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that looks like a showed that on a one shot,
Speaker 5: I look like a shark's mouth. Yeah yeah, no, I
Speaker 5: like a shark from mouth.
Speaker 6: One too many Mickey Mouse popsicles.
Speaker 5: You can see the light that is Kyle's.
Speaker 6: Did you hear those, buddy?
Speaker 3: Those Mickey ice cream bars last week?
Speaker 5: Got me? Man, did you see him with the with
Speaker 5: the rip pants?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I kept it very sly.
Speaker 5: The only person I was like a freaking oh, I
Speaker 5: know the window.
Speaker 3: I told the stories, so I don't want to go
Speaker 3: all the way back through it. But basically I had
Speaker 3: Barry look at it and I was like, how bad
Speaker 3: is it? And he was like, all right, sit back down.
Speaker 3: And it was bad because like I had green underpants on,
Speaker 3: like you just want oh yeah.
Speaker 5: All the way.
Speaker 7: Cow had the Grinch draw Yeah.
Speaker 3: Not good, so black pants, oh yeah, the black pants,
Speaker 3: green underpants all the way through. So basically, long story short,
Speaker 3: I walked to my truck, found some jeans, went to Walmart,
Speaker 3: bought some new pants, went back to my truck, changed
Speaker 3: into the new pants, and got back up to the
Speaker 3: breast box.
Speaker 5: In the two minute warning of the of the second quarter,
Speaker 5: dues that.
Speaker 6: Would wear the underpants that have the hearts on them.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, oh, like the like the boxers,
Speaker 3: very wide boxers with the hearts on them.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I probably I thought that was reserved for
Speaker 4: for guys who have like vans with shack carpeting inside.
Speaker 5: No, how do you not know what I drive? I
Speaker 5: mean what I mean?
Speaker 3: I work with you.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm just messing with you.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get introduce some notes. We got plenty
Speaker 3: to get. So that was there for that, Oh, I know.
Speaker 3: That was the first thing I said to Barry. I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm glad you're here and not Isaiah shark bite.
Speaker 3: He would have been Isaiah would have turned around.
Speaker 5: And been like, hey, I would have made a scene.
Speaker 5: It would have been a whole scene.
Speaker 3: Barry's a good friend over here taking up.
Speaker 4: So as we transition from senior green draws. Wait they
Speaker 4: were green out of the pack right, Oh yeah, out
Speaker 4: of the pack.
Speaker 3: Thank god.
Speaker 4: All right, News and notes, we're gonna go over the
Speaker 4: Cowboys injury report as we as we talked about Cooper
Speaker 4: BB this week. Obviously the headline is to Marven over
Speaker 4: shown he would had the injured reserve unfortunately here shortly,
Speaker 4: but Cooper BB, he's in question obviously going into this
Speaker 4: short week. Like I said, my expectation is that he
Speaker 4: will not take the field in Carolina against the Panthers.
Speaker 4: Mike mccar said that he is making some progress, there's
Speaker 4: a chance, but doesn't sound exactly optimistic. That's not the
Speaker 4: way I would describe it. So Cooper Beebe did not
Speaker 4: participate in practice on yesterday. Expected Eric Kendricks. He had
Speaker 4: a non injury related issue. So he's listed as a
Speaker 4: shoulder because he's been dealing with the shoulder, but the
Speaker 4: reason he misspractice was for a personal matter that's undisclosed
Speaker 4: at this time.
Speaker 3: One year.
Speaker 4: Thomas continues to deal with the meniscus issue in his knee.
Speaker 4: Did not participate. His was two to three weeks from
Speaker 4: the date of the injury. We'll see if he can
Speaker 4: get back on the field this season. Trayvon Diggs limited.
Speaker 4: C J goodwhen limited with the hamstring issue. Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 4: still nursing the shoulder, but he did practice limited capacity.
Speaker 4: Jordan Lewis hamstring issue, but he practiced in unlimited capacity
Speaker 4: as well. Everyone else that's on the injured reserve. I'm
Speaker 4: sorry on the injury report. Dran bland Rico, Daldo Tyler,
Speaker 4: Gott and Marshaw Kniela and Tyler Smith. They are all
Speaker 4: full participants in yesterday's practice.
Speaker 6: I don't like that. Why delete that?
Speaker 3: It's not likable.
Speaker 8: It's It's not like there's not many instances where I
Speaker 8: would actually go back in times, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: take a time machine and reverse things.
Speaker 6: But if I could go back to that, that Bengals
Speaker 6: game and just fourth.
Speaker 9: Quarter, if you have a machine where you're going back
Speaker 9: to in yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm going back to March,
Speaker 9: this free agency thing fixed, and then we'll go from there.
Speaker 7: I'm not shots I'm fired, not shots fired.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying what I would easy man, I'm just
Speaker 4: saying this is what I would do if I had
Speaker 4: a time machine.
Speaker 5: You know, I think it would take a lot longer
Speaker 5: than March to fix that free agents. I had a
Speaker 5: time machine, I would go to go further back to
Speaker 5: the second quarter of the Cincinnati game in the press box.
Speaker 5: I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: I was watching on my phone from the second quarter.
Speaker 3: It was the very first Like literally, as I sat
Speaker 3: down from pregame, I had not even gotten food yet,
Speaker 3: I am with It would.
Speaker 8: Have been worse if you were eating you a big
Speaker 8: plate of food. You sit down and your fans you're like,
Speaker 8: you know what I'm gonna put this?
Speaker 5: I walked, I walked. I went back for the halftime
Speaker 5: like thing and food.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 5: You know there was there was.
Speaker 3: At this point, it's all done. Dammage is done. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm eating nothing but egg whites today.
Speaker 4: Over n he just pictured Josh with the time machine
Speaker 4: and everything rewinds back and certainly we were back in
Speaker 4: the press box and we turn around and Josh seat
Speaker 4: is empty and went like, where's Josh? And it's the
Speaker 4: the offending play that injured to Marviy on the show.
Speaker 4: Suddenly we looked down on the.
Speaker 6: Fields are just running.
Speaker 3: There's a fan on the field.
Speaker 4: He's just running full speed to dive right in front
Speaker 4: of the guy who's about to be thrown into Demo's knee.
Speaker 3: He's like, take me, and God take me.
Speaker 5: I feel like vision I have visioned running across the
Speaker 5: field with a big shark hole in the drawers, green draws,
Speaker 5: running like grew across the dog field.
Speaker 6: They're just splitting the runs.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Talking Cow.
Speaker 6: His pints are desperating like Forrest Gump.
Speaker 5: Avenger. I was running Yellowjack security.
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Yes, he's on my butt. We gotta have your kids
Speaker 5: yelling at the screen.
Speaker 1: Getting that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever we read an injury report like that, we
Speaker 3: got to find some level of humor.
Speaker 5: We gotta find something.
Speaker 4: So you said, what is why dealing with a game miniscus?
Speaker 4: So it's two or three weeks from the injury wait
Speaker 4: to bring that back roughly is a hell yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: we uh we stand for one year here, Yea. Absolutely
Speaker 4: so anybody else on that injury report that.
Speaker 3: You're even that, I mean, you're gonna ask me this
Speaker 3: everyone Yeah, pretty much that that you're concerned about make
Speaker 3: Cooper BB is the big one.
Speaker 4: But obviously if he's not able to play, then brought
Speaker 4: offmin slides in the starting center and TJ Bass and
Speaker 4: the right guard, everyone else, I mean, je Yea, we
Speaker 4: knew he'd miss this game. Trayvon practice, everyone else participated
Speaker 4: in practice that I would kind of draw a circle
Speaker 4: around ceedde Lamb.
Speaker 3: He participated in practice.
Speaker 4: Jay lou deran Rico guy in Niland Smith, I mean
Speaker 4: Tylers Smith, those guys are a practice. So really, outside
Speaker 4: of what we know about Cooper BB, nothing else really
Speaker 4: jumps out because like I said, Eric Kendricks did not
Speaker 4: practice yesterday, and although he's listed with the shoulder that
Speaker 4: he's been dealing with, it was a personal day for him.
Speaker 4: It was something he was dealing with outside of work.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, other than Cooper, Beb everything else,
Speaker 4: I don't want to say it's positive, but it's not
Speaker 4: as it's not worse. It didn't get worse yesterday.
Speaker 6: It's been worse.
Speaker 7: I was gonna say it didn't get worse yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that really all I can say at this point.
Speaker 6: So it's not the worst thing in the world. I'll
Speaker 6: give you that.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 7: It didn't get worse yesterday. That's all I can say. Man,
Speaker 7: now that you check me tomorrow, now.
Speaker 3: That you've had a little bit of time to kind
Speaker 3: of peace through the film of TJ. Pass and brock
Speaker 3: Hoffman as your interior or offensive line, did you feel
Speaker 3: better or worse after watching it again than you did
Speaker 3: on Monday seeing it.
Speaker 5: In real time?
Speaker 7: Watching it back gave me the same same film, the.
Speaker 4: Same fuzzy wuzzies and mobili that I watching it in
Speaker 4: real time. I mean, in real time it felt like
Speaker 4: they were really doing well up front, and then you
Speaker 4: go back and watch the film and lo and behold
Speaker 4: your eyes did not deceive you from the real time assessment.
Speaker 4: They were really doing well. They were protecting Cooper Rush
Speaker 4: quite well. Like we talked about, there were times when
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush had plenty of time in the pocket, he
Speaker 4: just didn't make the throw. They were also opening up
Speaker 4: lanes for Rico Daldill to continue to do damage on
Speaker 4: the ground. So from my perspective, brock Hoffin and TJ.
Speaker 4: Bass played very well.
Speaker 8: If you saw, I mean, I agree with you. But
Speaker 8: one thing that I saw as far as the offensive
Speaker 8: line goes, was Tuma. Like I thought, last week was
Speaker 8: a much better impression of what what you'd want to
Speaker 8: see out of Tuma than you did this week.
Speaker 5: This week, I agree.
Speaker 8: I don't want to say he took a step back,
Speaker 8: but it just didn't feel like he brought him work.
Speaker 6: That's one hundred percent.
Speaker 12: Part of it.
Speaker 4: That's Trey Hendrickson absolutely took him to school.
Speaker 3: Trey Henderson. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So, and this is really good, right.
Speaker 4: And this is not to say that that Chuman necessarily
Speaker 4: can't handle himself, but Trey Hendrickson does what he does
Speaker 4: to everybody.
Speaker 3: He lines up again.
Speaker 4: So Chuman walked into that game with the odds stacked
Speaker 4: wildly against him, and it played out how we thought
Speaker 4: it would play out.
Speaker 3: Trey Hendrickson is him. I agree.
Speaker 8: I just don't think that the footwork was necessarily there
Speaker 8: for Tuma this week transpired to last week.
Speaker 3: A lot of that is he desgration.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he gets your feet tangled up outside step and
Speaker 4: then come inside with the inside step, then go outside.
Speaker 3: He's nasty. When I watched it back on Tuesday, it's
Speaker 3: still weird to me. It feels like a Wednesday today,
Speaker 3: but Tuesday. Whenever I watched it back, I thought brock
Speaker 3: Hoffman may have had his best game as a cowboy
Speaker 3: in my opinion, because he was uber efficient in pass
Speaker 3: block and run block, both at guard and at center.
Speaker 3: And if you can do that and then over the
Speaker 3: course almost split fifty to fifty, you had about I
Speaker 3: think it was thirty snaps at center and it was
Speaker 3: like twenty six snaps sick guard or something like that.
Speaker 3: It was almost split fifty to fifty, and he was
Speaker 3: just as effective.
Speaker 5: In both spots. And I love that. I think that versatility.
Speaker 3: I was already sold on brock Hoffman by what he
Speaker 3: had shown previously, but now I see why he got
Speaker 3: the nod over ToJ.
Speaker 5: Bass.
Speaker 3: Bass is still a great player, and I think as
Speaker 3: a pass blocker, I think TJ. Bass was very good. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if not perfect for what you were asked to do.
Speaker 3: He wasn't perfect in winning every single rep and whatever
Speaker 3: I don't think he allowed did not allow a pressure.
Speaker 5: He did have the one penalty.
Speaker 3: I didn't love what I saw from a run blocking
Speaker 3: standpoint from from TJ. I think he can still be
Speaker 3: downhill a little bit better. I really liked what I
Speaker 3: saw pass blocking from both guys, but brock Hoffman was
Speaker 3: the one that did both well.
Speaker 8: You say that, but that was Rico o'daddle's best game
Speaker 8: as a Cowboys running back, and.
Speaker 3: Most of it came after or before TJ. Bass was
Speaker 3: in there. Though that's fair. He kept it going, he
Speaker 3: kept running well, and I think they continued to run
Speaker 3: the ball effectively with Rico Daudell and.
Speaker 6: That's after they let off the gas pedal as far
Speaker 6: as the run game goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think not that TJ. Bass was bad
Speaker 3: as a run blocker. I just think he was better
Speaker 3: as a pass blocker, whereas brock Hoffman was great at both.
Speaker 8: You gotta love the that you have currently at offensive
Speaker 8: line when you're fully healthy, you have to. You have
Speaker 8: to appreciate what they've done. And the scouts on this
Speaker 8: team obviously have had some impressive work when it comes
Speaker 8: to evaluating offensive line.
Speaker 3: And give credit to the coaching staff too for for
Speaker 3: not giving up on certain guys too. Absolutely, it brought
Speaker 3: very easily. Whenever he's picking fights in training camp and
Speaker 3: he's he's showing some nastiness at different times that could
Speaker 3: be taken the wrong way from time to time, and
Speaker 3: that hasn't been the case. They've stuck with him and
Speaker 3: he's rewarding them. I feel much better about this offensive
Speaker 3: line now than I did prior to the Zach Martin injury.
Speaker 5: And that's a sentence. I don't think I would have
Speaker 5: ever said it in my entire.
Speaker 6: Life, but you're entirely that is accurate.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel much when you consider this season Zech
Speaker 4: was having because he was banged up time and again
Speaker 4: and he was dealing with what turned out to be
Speaker 4: a generative situation at his ankle. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 4: not an outlandish state meant to make. I mean, we
Speaker 4: we talked about, you know, possibly going bass fishing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: before the season ending ankle injury. So yeah, And like
Speaker 4: you said, shouts out to Will McLay and the scouting
Speaker 4: staff because in the scouting department, because we're sitting here
Speaker 4: talking about in brock Kaufman and TJ. Bass, two undrafted
Speaker 4: guys who are.
Speaker 5: Playing andttributing at a high level.
Speaker 4: In short order, contributed at a high level to the
Speaker 4: point where we feel confident about that going forward. That's
Speaker 4: that's saying a lot for both the scouting department, how
Speaker 4: they've been coached up and of course those players and
Speaker 4: just grinding away, grinding away, looking for their opportunity and
Speaker 4: then making the best of it when the opportunity presented it.
Speaker 3: If you would have asked me, and this is why
Speaker 3: there's still significant portions of these games coming up down
Speaker 3: the stretch, if you would have asked me a month
Speaker 3: ago who the first round pick was going to be
Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, what position group it would be? I
Speaker 3: think I would have said left tackle. I think I
Speaker 3: would have said, Okay, we're gonna pick it. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think we would have. I would have said we were
Speaker 3: picking in the fifteen, you're going to take You're flipping Guiton.
Speaker 3: You're cutting Terrence Steel, cutting with him completely that this
Speaker 3: was a month a month ago.
Speaker 5: Let that be No, where you are I'm not there now.
Speaker 3: I think now, with TJ Bass and Brock Hoffman and
Speaker 3: Terrence Steel and some of the things I've seen as
Speaker 3: the season is done on, I think I would rather
Speaker 3: keep Guiton at left tackle.
Speaker 5: I am crazy.
Speaker 3: I would keep Early on.
Speaker 6: In the season, I was like, what good?
Speaker 3: But no, I would totally take a left tackle. Flip Guiton.
Speaker 3: Then you've got three first rounders in your in your
Speaker 3: on your offensive line. TJ Bass, at that point in
Speaker 3: my head, was going to be.
Speaker 5: Your future right guard.
Speaker 3: One Zack Martin decides to call it quits.
Speaker 5: I love what Cooper BB does at center.
Speaker 3: I felt good about my offensive line with that pick.
Speaker 5: I don't want to do that anymore. Do you want BB?
Speaker 3: What was that? Would you want to go back to
Speaker 3: BB after what Hoffman showed? Yeah, because I would put
Speaker 3: I would put Hoffman back at guard. BB's your starting
Speaker 3: BB's your starter centers, guys.
Speaker 7: And it's an answer, would you would you go back
Speaker 7: to bebe?
Speaker 5: I don't know? Wow, Now you're the one, You're the
Speaker 5: crazy one.
Speaker 7: All right, mister hot take care to care to drop
Speaker 7: in an explanation like.
Speaker 5: You were that.
Speaker 3: Go to break.
Speaker 5: The window long, I honestly haven't. I haven't watched enough
Speaker 5: of those guys. I don't think we've seen enough. I
Speaker 5: haven't watched enough of those guys doing what they do.
Speaker 5: But I I there is something about having a sinner
Speaker 5: who has an edge and who has a nastiness, And
Speaker 5: I haven't watched enough Cooper Bebe to say yay or.
Speaker 3: Nay, Bobe has nastiness.
Speaker 7: I don't know if he has stops at the whistle.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I mean I don't think that's fair to
Speaker 6: compare him to Brock when it comes to.
Speaker 5: Like he just sounds aggressive that I would have to
Speaker 5: do in order to do either any of them justice,
Speaker 5: I would need to do a will sit down in
Speaker 5: film review to watch the energy inside eye.
Speaker 4: What I will say is Hoffman is very good at center.
Speaker 4: But there is a reason BB beat him out at center.
Speaker 4: So you put BB back at center, and you instead
Speaker 4: of trying to decide which play center, you put them
Speaker 4: right next to each other like you were doing, and
Speaker 4: you prosper, and you prospers, Bros.
Speaker 7: Prosper that's actually pretty going to stick.
Speaker 3: That's going to stick. The thing about now, that was
Speaker 3: a month ago. Remember that was what I was looking
Speaker 3: at of the draft ahead of time.
Speaker 5: Now, with TJ.
Speaker 3: Baffman showing me what they've done and the versatility that
Speaker 3: they've shown on the offensive line, you have the ability
Speaker 3: to go away from the offensive line in the first round.
Speaker 3: Don't know where they're going to go yet. It may
Speaker 3: be wide receiver, it may be running back, it maybe
Speaker 3: whoever the hell it ends up being from the defensive
Speaker 3: side of the ball. But it gives you the option,
Speaker 3: and that's something you didn't have. I don't think going.
Speaker 6: Forward at linebacker. Linebacker, yeah, whatever.
Speaker 3: It ends up your back at linebacker.
Speaker 4: But shouts I don't know about the first round. No,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say first round, but shouts out line running back.
Speaker 4: Shouts out to the Cowboys because they call a lot
Speaker 4: of smoke from certain pockets of the fan base for
Speaker 4: using that pick on merist when because obviously a lot
Speaker 4: of fans, we included wanted a running back around that time. Right,
Speaker 4: you used to pick on the linebacker, and then the
Speaker 4: run on the running backs occurs and you start losing guys, right,
Speaker 4: but as it turns out, Marist is going to be
Speaker 4: much needed in the absence of the Marveyon nova shown
Speaker 4: into and possibly through the entire day of the twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: Found Let me let me put it this way or
Speaker 5: go for it?
Speaker 3: Well, no, you got I'm just gonna say if that
Speaker 3: if you were to be if you were to take
Speaker 3: the first, second and third round picks from the twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three draft and the twenty twenty four draft, and
Speaker 3: you were to say, who is the most productive out
Speaker 3: of the first, second and third round picks out of
Speaker 3: both of those drafts, marys Lee, if I would probably
Speaker 3: lead the way I pick turned out to be brilliant
Speaker 3: because de Marvin overshown because of injuries.
Speaker 5: In twenty twenty three, there's your third round pick.
Speaker 3: Then you had Schoonmaker and Mazzie Smith as your second
Speaker 3: in your first round picks, respectively.
Speaker 5: Then you go to this year, you had Tyler Geidon.
Speaker 3: Injuries and lack thereof playing time, that kind of thing
Speaker 3: happening at left tackle. Your second round pick was whom
Speaker 3: I forget, oh, marsh On nealand injuries.
Speaker 5: Maris Lee, if.
Speaker 3: That's that third round pick, he's been just as productive
Speaker 3: if as anybody else.
Speaker 4: And now he's going to keep you out of being
Speaker 4: back in dire straits at linebacker.
Speaker 6: Yes, arguably more conductive than marsh On Knealen.
Speaker 3: Well not argue he's been on the feast.
Speaker 6: I mean technically was technically so.
Speaker 3: So literally doesn't mean talent wise. There is no literally
Speaker 3: in terms of pretty been available, which means he's been
Speaker 3: more productive. Part of it is how it goes all right,
Speaker 3: when we come back here on Talking Cowboys, we're going
Speaker 3: to go into a little QB vision. Isaiah has been
Speaker 3: taking a look at this Carolina defense, what they bring
Speaker 3: to the table. There's only one team in the NFL
Speaker 3: that's given up more points per game than the Dallas
Speaker 3: Cowboys defense.
Speaker 5: Would you like to guess which team?
Speaker 3: And that was ummm, I'll tell you after the break.
Speaker 5: We're talking Cowboys.
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Speaker 5: Okay, great opportunity for the Dallas Cowboys to go against
Speaker 5: a team that's worse than them defensively. Yeah.
Speaker 3: The only team in the NFL that's given them more
Speaker 3: points per game than Cowboys Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5: Do you know why points per game? You know why
Speaker 5: Kyle want because they're bad.
Speaker 14: They're I mean, they're bad, but you know why they're
Speaker 14: bad defensive line? They are so scared. You guys are
Speaker 14: faced defensives that are so scared to get beat, they're scurried.
Speaker 5: Shook it. Okay, So teams that are very scared don't
Speaker 5: be scared. They do what defensively to ensure that bad
Speaker 5: things don't happen. Back a back up. So if you
Speaker 5: go back and watch the entire for.
Speaker 15: The Delphia Eagles, the Prevent Panthers, it is literally the
Speaker 15: Prevent Panthers. When I say that, I mean the safety
Speaker 15: is playing when a quarterback is in a gun formation.
Speaker 15: To safety is playing twenty five yards away from the quarterback.
Speaker 6: Which safety is that? Which safety is that?
Speaker 5: Oh? I mean freaking some guy who's here.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, you know his name x Exavier. Yeah,
Speaker 6: we kind of know his game a little bit.
Speaker 5: But it's not just it's not a preference so that works. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he chooses pick and chooses. But the woods that was
Speaker 5: when keeping it real goes wrong. That was so bad.
Speaker 3: It goes so wrong.
Speaker 5: But it's not a preference thing. This isn't like, hey, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm choosing to do my own thing, Like this is
Speaker 5: being taught down there and these guys are playing about
Speaker 5: twenty five yards off at the safety position, at the
Speaker 5: cornerback position, they're playing about eight yards off. Regardless of
Speaker 5: the coverage. It doesn't matter if they're playing single high
Speaker 5: safety and Cover three. It doesn't matter if they're playing
Speaker 5: Cover four, it doesn't matter if they're playing Cover six.
Speaker 5: For those that are concerned and trying to figure out
Speaker 5: exactly what those coverages mean, well, those coverages mean, I say,
Speaker 5: all right, and Cover three there's five guys. Others there's
Speaker 5: four guys underneath, okay, And Cover two there's five guys underneath,
Speaker 5: including the corners, three linebackers, two corners sitting at the edges.
Speaker 6: Understand and didn't.
Speaker 5: Cover four there's three guys covering underneath, and they have
Speaker 5: four secondary guys that are playing each quarter of the
Speaker 5: field in the back end ensuring that nothing bad happens
Speaker 5: and it Covers six is a combination of Cover four
Speaker 5: and Cover two in which you have guys that are
Speaker 5: rolled down playing Cover two on one side of the
Speaker 5: field and the other guys are playing deep. So with
Speaker 5: all that being said, it doesn't matter. Typically, Typically it
Speaker 5: does matter based upon what coverage that they're playing out
Speaker 5: of those but all these coverages are kind of playing
Speaker 5: and feeling the same right their defensive coordinators calling different
Speaker 5: different coverage packages, but they're playing alike because the amount
Speaker 5: of space that you're being given to run your routes.
Speaker 5: The purpose of calling these different coverages is to give
Speaker 5: the quarterback different looks and to present different options and
Speaker 5: negate different available holes in the defense. When you're playing
Speaker 5: eight to nine yards off at the cornerback position, where
Speaker 5: you're playing twenty five yards off in the safety position,
Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. It all just looks the same.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's their so far back anyways.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, it doesn't matter. It's routes on air, right,
Speaker 5: the way in which you those fans that have been
Speaker 5: have been blessed enough to go to the stadium and
Speaker 5: watch the Cowboys warm up, you know, and run routes
Speaker 5: with the quarterbacks throwing the ball to the receivers and
Speaker 5: the tight ends, and those guys are just no defenders.
Speaker 5: That's exactly what it looks like that. And literally there
Speaker 5: is nobody at the line of scrimmage pressing.
Speaker 3: Up at all. So just to add to that, and
Speaker 3: it's not just the safeties, it's everybody across the board.
Speaker 3: Linebackers have aligned four point seven yards off the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage on average.
Speaker 5: This season and the Panthers defense it's the second deepest
Speaker 5: of any team amongst their linebacking unit.
Speaker 3: Because of this kind of a side product of it,
Speaker 3: the defense has allowed one point nine yards before contact
Speaker 3: per carry.
Speaker 2: That's almost two yards per carry gift before anybody that's touch.
Speaker 2: That's called contact right there, that's all it can be.
Speaker 2: That is giving up yardage in terms of running.
Speaker 3: Imposing rushers also averaged three and a half yards for
Speaker 3: actual or for every actual rushing yard game designed runs
Speaker 3: against the Panthers defense fewest in the NFL. I'm glad
Speaker 3: you brought that up. So it's pretty wild.
Speaker 5: So obviously I just adjusted the passing game in the
Speaker 5: running game that there are plenty of holes and opportunities
Speaker 5: on the ground, and a lot of it is because
Speaker 5: of that, a lot of it because how far off
Speaker 5: everybody's playing right. And the thing is you compound the
Speaker 5: fact that their secondary plays far off right. You always
Speaker 5: hear the analogy if you have a bad defense, you
Speaker 5: typically have corners that have a lot of tackles. Not
Speaker 5: this team, because the corners are too far away to
Speaker 5: come up and make an impact. So if your corners
Speaker 5: are playing too far away and your defense is not
Speaker 5: in a position to make tackles. Now, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: you start getting those stat lines where you have two
Speaker 5: yards before you get any kind of contact, because you're
Speaker 5: getting across the line of scrimmage, down the field up
Speaker 5: to the second level before anybody.
Speaker 3: Can touch you.
Speaker 5: Not only that, they don't do a good job of containment.
Speaker 5: So whether it's a running back or whether it's a quarterback,
Speaker 5: you're able to break containment on these guys and get
Speaker 5: outside the tackle box. And therefore, if your receivers are
Speaker 5: running off their guys and not blocking out the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, but they're faking as if they're running a route,
Speaker 5: and there their guys fifteen twenty yards deep. Now, all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, once you break containment of that tackle box,
Speaker 5: you have big plays that are out there, big splash
Speaker 5: plays on the ground. So somebody named should have a
Speaker 5: relatively good day in this. I say that to say,
Speaker 5: don't go into bunch formations, bunch and condensed sets. They
Speaker 5: actually do a relatively good job of getting and restricting
Speaker 5: and constricting all the running lanes. So spread these guys
Speaker 5: out right. Every times I've seen it in on a
Speaker 5: film where you bring everybody in condensed sets, and they
Speaker 5: stopped the run. They stopped around. There's just too many
Speaker 5: people and one air congesticed. They gets congested. These guys
Speaker 5: are playing downhill, but when you spread them out right,
Speaker 5: they go right back to their rules. Oh, I gotta play,
Speaker 5: I gotta play, I gotta back up, I gotta play off.
Speaker 5: I gotta see everything in front of me right, I
Speaker 5: need to see it coming. And they're not reacting to it.
Speaker 5: So coverage is not great because of the techniques that
Speaker 5: they're being taught. Their running defense is not great. They're
Speaker 5: outside linebackers walk up to the edge of the line
Speaker 5: of scrimmage to present what looks like a five man front,
Speaker 5: which is underfront, so the deepensive line slides are way
Speaker 5: from the strength of your tight end. The outside lnebacker
Speaker 5: will walk down on the edge and try to present
Speaker 5: outside contained run force. Their hips are locked up like
Speaker 5: a coon, so they don't do well in terms of
Speaker 5: that outside certainment. Once you get outside that tackle box,
Speaker 5: you can run for days, so you have opportunity to
Speaker 5: pretty much do whatever the heck you want in the
Speaker 5: passing game. So Dallas's short passing game works against a
Speaker 5: team like this. You know, when Dallas has not been
Speaker 5: pushing the ball down the field, Cooper Rushes passes have
Speaker 5: been anywhere from four yards or fifteen yards down field.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they won't need to.
Speaker 3: It works against that.
Speaker 5: That what you're seeing out of Dallas's offense will be
Speaker 5: successful against Carolina's defense because of their techniques that they're playing.
Speaker 3: More stats to back up the film that you're breaking
Speaker 3: down here? Would you want the good news or the
Speaker 3: bad news for me?
Speaker 5: Both?
Speaker 3: Man, I'll give you the good news first because it
Speaker 3: sets it up better Cowboys offense. You said, what what
Speaker 3: do they need to do against this Carolina defense in
Speaker 3: terms of them out? Okay, spread formation? Right, spread it out.
Speaker 3: Cowboys offenses use spread formations on a league high forty
Speaker 3: percent of offensive plays this season.
Speaker 5: That's good, new league high good news. Right? That sounds good.
Speaker 5: You want to hear the bad news of it though?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 11: No.
Speaker 3: Cooper Rush as quarterback has recorded the sixth lowest completion
Speaker 3: percentage in terms of six yards per attempt out of spread.
Speaker 5: Formations this year, not this week.
Speaker 6: But you know what, this is a get right game.
Speaker 3: You think this is the opportunity to up maybe not
Speaker 3: both numbers, but up the second number a little bit right.
Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you this, man, The defense is
Speaker 6: not good. That's it. No, let me tell you why
Speaker 6: they're not good.
Speaker 8: They are thirty first in opponent yards per game, yeah,
Speaker 8: twenty seventh in opponent's yards per play, thirty second in
Speaker 8: third down conversion twenty six and opposing red zone scoring,
Speaker 8: thirty second in opponent touchdowns per game, and thirty second
Speaker 8: in the posts opponent rush yards per game.
Speaker 6: That is not good.
Speaker 5: I felt like I know what Patrick's about to say.
Speaker 3: Here. I'm letting y'all get it all out of use.
Speaker 5: What do you what are you about to say?
Speaker 4: You were correct? You're correct, fantastic breakdown, You're correct. The
Speaker 4: other thing that's true on top of you guys being correct,
Speaker 4: is that I don't care. Let me explain what I
Speaker 4: mean by that. Let me explain what I mean by that.
Speaker 4: We spent the end seem pretty clear to me, buddy.
Speaker 4: We spent the entirety of last week. We spent the
Speaker 4: entirety of last week talking about how.
Speaker 3: Historically horrible.
Speaker 4: The Cincinnati Bengals defense is historically terrible and literally one
Speaker 4: of the worst in the last half decade, and one
Speaker 4: of the worst in NFL then, and you could only
Speaker 4: mount twenty points against them. Now, segueing from what I
Speaker 4: said yesterday, we were talking about it during the break.
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to present the Panthers defense as good
Speaker 4: or solid or capable. Sure, just statistically they're better than
Speaker 4: the literal worst defense in the league. And the Cincinnati
Speaker 4: Bengals could.
Speaker 3: Couple of areas, couple of.
Speaker 4: Areas, but you could only muster twenty points again them
Speaker 4: correct on your own field, I.
Speaker 5: Would argue this Panthers defense is worse. I guess outside
Speaker 5: outside of a lot on.
Speaker 4: The corner of my screen, outside of what Trey Hendrickson
Speaker 4: does coming forward to the Panthers, You're right, they do
Speaker 4: play sugar, so they give a lot of space. Yes,
Speaker 4: they're going to give you a bunch of criminal presents,
Speaker 4: Mary Krimin, all right, almost the first down worth of
Speaker 4: yardists before they.
Speaker 3: Come up and try to put hands at that number.
Speaker 4: But we talked a lot about the offensive line they're
Speaker 4: going to have to protect because this Panthers defense last week,
Speaker 4: notwithstanding against the Eagles, they can get after the quarterback, Javian.
Speaker 7: Clown, they can get after the quarterback.
Speaker 4: They had three sacks apiece against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 4: and the Kansas City Chiefs. They had a combined twelve
Speaker 4: quarterback pressures in those games. So when you're talking about
Speaker 4: Cooper Rush and the offensive line, one thing the Panthers
Speaker 4: can do, probably the only thing that they can do effectively,
Speaker 4: is cast some disruptions in that backfield. My concern when
Speaker 4: it comes to Coop Rush is, yes, the Cowboys have
Speaker 4: run spread quite a bit. Yes, Mike McCarthy is calling
Speaker 4: the plays that can you know, those quick pass rush
Speaker 4: beaters where it's like screen here, quick flat here?
Speaker 3: What are the throws there? Right? Are the reds there?
Speaker 3: It's Cooper Rush.
Speaker 4: Comfortable even when the pocket is sufficient, I'm not seeing
Speaker 4: enough of that. So, yes, this is another game, a
Speaker 4: second consecutive game wherein the Cowboys offense has both the
Speaker 4: firepower even though they're deficient in a lot of ways. Right,
Speaker 4: they have the firepower with Rico dowd Oor. Brandon Cooks
Speaker 4: has two touchdowns in two games. Right, Ceedelamb got rid
Speaker 4: of the drop seas over the week prior. They have
Speaker 4: a sufficient offensive line. Knock On Wood, Jake Ferguson's backlook
Speaker 4: Schoolmaker is still being affecting the game as play. Cowboys
Speaker 4: have enough firepower to overcome another bad defense, But I
Speaker 4: just saw them not overcome one of the worst defenses.
Speaker 7: So that's that's what I mean when I say out
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 8: But they're also not going up against the best quarterback
Speaker 8: in the NFL. That's kind of where I'm at. But
Speaker 8: I don't think Bryson is going to be able to
Speaker 8: pick apart this Cowboys defense. While simultaneously we'll stop talking
Speaker 8: about I know, I know, but I'm saying I don't
Speaker 8: think there's going to be enough there for them to
Speaker 8: consistently attack what the Cowboys are doing on offense.
Speaker 3: You're saying Dallas doesn't need to score twenty points against
Speaker 3: this defense.
Speaker 8: I think they're going to anyone. Yeah, I think they're
Speaker 8: gonna I think this has the potential to be a shootout. However,
Speaker 8: you do have potentially Trayvon Diggs and you have Doron Bland,
Speaker 8: who are going to eliminate.
Speaker 6: I think here's what Bryce Young is able to do
Speaker 6: while running outside.
Speaker 3: Of the boat. To my concern here, I'm going to
Speaker 3: max two things. Can we do it after the break,
Speaker 3: Yes we can't. Yeah, let's do it after the right.
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Speaker 5: Beam in the back.
Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeoman's can the North Texas?
Speaker 15: Was it mean Green Eagles? Eagles mean green? Yes, there's
Speaker 15: no eagles? Is it a Bird's there's.
Speaker 3: An eagle in the logo? But they don't want you
Speaker 3: to call them the Eagles? What because Eagles are dumb?
Speaker 3: Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 5: This is what I'm talking.
Speaker 6: Oh okay, well Eagles too.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 5: Anyways, next year, what can the mean Green Eagles?
Speaker 3: Can they beat you? And c That's all I want
Speaker 3: to probably not Bill Belichick is about to get any
Speaker 3: transfer portal, quarterback, wide receiver player possible that in I
Speaker 3: L money would buy. And they've got an in I
Speaker 3: L money in Chapel Hill.
Speaker 5: They don't have more money than Texas. They don't you.
Speaker 5: Actually the money that comes into you is the state
Speaker 5: of Texas, Kyle.
Speaker 3: I saw the numbers of the revenue share amongst the
Speaker 3: American Athletic Conference. Out of the thirteen teams in the
Speaker 3: American Athletic Conference, they're number eleven, And.
Speaker 5: Well, aren't you helping I.
Speaker 2: Skyles a good event that raised like seven hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Yes, athletes, So just do that like twenty times a year,
Speaker 5: I know exactly.
Speaker 3: And then where the Disney and all that money went away.
Speaker 5: We were just talking about allocation of funds exactly.
Speaker 3: So no, U n C is going to be that
Speaker 3: Belichick move that's playing chess, not checkers, because in NIL,
Speaker 3: the era of college we're getting on a tangent. NIL
Speaker 3: era of college football is basically free agency every year
Speaker 3: from NIL money which UNC has, and coaching and bringing
Speaker 3: in players and being able to circle through them. Bill
Speaker 3: Belichick has already had twenty four seasons in the NFL
Speaker 3: as a pro head coach and more than that, actually,
Speaker 3: but that's a pro head coach. He it's basically being
Speaker 3: a pro head coach. Put in college college.
Speaker 5: I've been listening. I know we don't even get on seeing,
Speaker 5: but I've been listening to these very well off individuals
Speaker 5: in the business world talking about how they are buying colleges. Yeah. Next,
Speaker 5: that's pretty not investing, not donating.
Speaker 6: Next up on mix shots, what's Miszoo got going on?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's probably get crazy.
Speaker 5: It's gonna it's already crazy. It's there's gonna be a
Speaker 5: side of tangent. I'm not going to go through it.
Speaker 5: Let's continue about you. I'm very passionate about college sports.
Speaker 5: I love college sports.
Speaker 3: That's why I love the draft. That's why I love
Speaker 3: the draft. Marries both of them. You're the freaking man
Speaker 3: when its I appreciate it freaking a All right, Patrick,
Speaker 3: you said you had some concern, Yeah, my college, no concern.
Speaker 3: Captain underpens Is, you're such as sure.
Speaker 12: Sometimes the Cowboys, the Cowboys off Cowboys offense has not
Speaker 12: has not shown me that they can really blow the
Speaker 12: lid off of poor defenses that they line up against.
Speaker 3: Right, So there's some I did go Phil Kendrick, why.
Speaker 7: Live Look at Cayle in the press box, their heads
Speaker 7: except their green.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, someone do a photoshop of Kyle.
Speaker 3: Kyle before press conference.
Speaker 1: A little.
Speaker 3: Cry?
Speaker 4: All right, Oh concern. So I talked about my main
Speaker 4: concern the Cowboys offense unable to take full advantage of
Speaker 4: bad defenses. But I mean so when you even flipping
Speaker 4: on the opposite side. Cole said something on yesterday that
Speaker 4: really sticks out that kind of ties on, ties into
Speaker 4: what you're saying. You have to wonder where this defensive
Speaker 4: mindset is going into this game on a short week
Speaker 4: after such an emotionally fracturing loss. Because you talk about
Speaker 4: Michael Parsons being overcome with emotions, you talk about the
Speaker 4: locker room being so dejected, the most dejected I've seen
Speaker 4: them at any point in this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the question is from a Cowboys defensive standpoint versus
Speaker 4: a Bryce Young who's getting more confident and Chop Hubbard
Speaker 4: in this offense and Lagett and feeling and they're getting
Speaker 4: more confident, and Canalis as a head coach, is getting
Speaker 4: more confident.
Speaker 7: I just feel like emotionally they're in two different places
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 7: So I don't know what version of the Cowboys defense
Speaker 7: comes out.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's a version that says, you
Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna We're gonna show you that we're
Speaker 4: not broken from from what happened on Monday night, or
Speaker 4: if it's the version that lets Jamar Chase get the
Speaker 4: forty yard go ahead touchdown because they're still kind of
Speaker 4: in shock and they haven't really recovered from it yet.
Speaker 4: So that's to that side of the ball. But again
Speaker 4: flipping back to Panthers defense. Yeah, they're gonna give you
Speaker 4: a bunch of gifts. Question is can you take advantage
Speaker 4: of them when Ceedee Lamb hits you with a deep
Speaker 4: crosser and he's waving his hand.
Speaker 3: Do you see him? Yeah? Can you get it too?
Speaker 5: Can you get it to him?
Speaker 6: That's another thing, when you get it to him right?
Speaker 3: And can you finally get.
Speaker 5: That's the cust the whole outfit, bro, you gotta do.
Speaker 5: It's a whole outfit, kept it under website, whole outfit.
Speaker 3: So that's that's my point.
Speaker 5: Can you play defense against somebody who eats raccoons?
Speaker 15: Whatt but get oh he said it eats raccoons and
Speaker 15: eat squirrels.
Speaker 6: Oh well, that's just he also can't catch game winning touchdown.
Speaker 5: You're not worried about it?
Speaker 6: That is then I don't know, man, Okay, Ja see what.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And I realize I'm playing devil advocate here
Speaker 4: because everything we're saying, all four of versus siss is
Speaker 4: completely correct. All of the positives that you guys are saying,
Speaker 4: as far as why the Cowboys should be able to
Speaker 4: walk into Bank of America State and have their way
Speaker 4: so to speak against the Panthers defense one correct. The
Speaker 4: reasons I'm saying that they may not are also on
Speaker 4: film because we're seeing games in which they are not
Speaker 4: taking advantage of it.
Speaker 5: You have to give credit though, who show because even
Speaker 5: as bad as they look on film, they still took
Speaker 5: us two times Super Bowl championship team, right, the NFC
Speaker 5: favorites in terms of going to Super Bowl this year, right,
Speaker 5: and a playoff team in Tampa Bay took them all
Speaker 5: to the dog on wire.
Speaker 3: Facts.
Speaker 5: And so, like you know what I'm saying, Like as
Speaker 5: bad as we're talking about, you got to give them
Speaker 5: respect because there's some aspect that they're as competitive.
Speaker 6: That's Bryce Young.
Speaker 5: I agree.
Speaker 4: I think The biggest thing is belief. They believe now,
Speaker 4: and and that hurts, making them a little bit.
Speaker 3: More dodgerous in my opinion. If their offense has confidence now,
Speaker 3: but so does the Cowboys defense. The ineptability of the
Speaker 3: I know Demo going into last I still think Michaeh
Speaker 3: Parson's being unavailable.
Speaker 5: I think he's still gonna be fine.
Speaker 6: What your secondary, I think your second secondary has been
Speaker 6: playing really.
Speaker 7: Trayvon's back, and you got Deran and he those two
Speaker 7: enjoy in.
Speaker 3: I think they can. They will affect the game.
Speaker 8: And if you saw what Doron Bland did last year
Speaker 8: in Carolina, I think you will see that again.
Speaker 6: I think Doron Bland is going to have his best
Speaker 6: game of the.
Speaker 8: Year because of the confidence of thinking he can put
Speaker 8: it anywhere. And oh, the only problem is you have
Speaker 8: Jordan Lewis, Trayvon Diggs and.
Speaker 4: And are you going in with the mindset of we're
Speaker 4: going to win this for our fallen brother and Demarvin Overshon.
Speaker 4: Are you going in with the mindset of we don't
Speaker 4: have de move on the field. I don't know which
Speaker 4: one of those two versions show up.
Speaker 5: Josh, what do you until concerned about in this game.
Speaker 8: Jac Horn, I think is a really solid He's a
Speaker 8: solid corner man. I think he's a solid cornerback. I
Speaker 8: think it's unfortunate that they're exactly what they're having him
Speaker 8: do because he is the antithesis of Trayvon Dicks.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 8: He will not let you have yards after catch. He
Speaker 8: will tackle you immediately. He's not afraid to get into
Speaker 8: the run game. He is literally the antithesis of that. However,
Speaker 8: you have Mike Jackson on the other side, who is
Speaker 8: not having his best year his best years.
Speaker 6: We're in Seattle and but we know him as well.
Speaker 5: But he's also so to your point, right, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of there's a lot of symmetry here, and I
Speaker 5: know we get out of it. There's a lot of
Speaker 5: symmetry between these two defenses. Dallas Cowboys have three really
Speaker 5: good corners that aren't being allowed to do what they
Speaker 5: do best. The Carolina Panthers have one really good corner
Speaker 5: and I think a very competitive corner right, that aren't
Speaker 5: being allowed to do what they do because Jackson is
Speaker 5: like he's Jackson is a mauler. He wants to get
Speaker 5: up there and put his hands out, his physical k.
Speaker 6: He's not having a great year.
Speaker 5: He's not having a great year, right because because of this,
Speaker 5: because you're playing seven to nine off ye, yeah, right,
Speaker 5: So the things that you do best. You want Jackson,
Speaker 5: you want Horn, you want those guys to DeLine of scrimmage,
Speaker 5: putting hands on guys. You want Jay Lou, you want
Speaker 5: Traymon Diggs. You want Deron Bland and be able to
Speaker 5: get up there and put hands on you know, obviously
Speaker 5: Durron Bland got the work done to him at the
Speaker 5: end of the game, but other than that, get up
Speaker 5: there and put hands on them, right, And so like
Speaker 5: both of these secondaries are capable of doing so much more,
Speaker 5: but they're being subjected to whatever the coach calls. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, and like you said, there is symmetry between both teams,
Speaker 3: because I agree with Patrick in the same sense that
Speaker 3: you got to see what Cowboys team is going to
Speaker 3: show up period, playing and simple, but we're not going
Speaker 3: to know that until.
Speaker 6: The first And that's to society ask what the films.
Speaker 4: We're looking at the film and we're Disseconday, just don't
Speaker 4: go in thinking the Cowboys are going to hang fifty
Speaker 4: on those I don't.
Speaker 6: Know, no, no of course not.
Speaker 3: The over under is forty three. I look that up
Speaker 3: just a moment ago.
Speaker 5: It's forty three.
Speaker 3: I would go with the under because I think an
Speaker 3: in offense from the Cowboys versus a confident defense from
Speaker 3: from the Cowboys against an inept defense from Carolina and
Speaker 3: a confident option almost and I think it ends up
Speaker 3: watching out and it would be a low score.
Speaker 5: If if you think that nine to seven, yeah, it'll be.
Speaker 5: It may be one of those games and that would be.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, safety in a field ball. Yeah, I love it.
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