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Speaker 3: How's it going everybody? I'm Travis Wingfield and on today's show,
Speaker 3: the first joint practices of camp are in the books.
Speaker 3: Will get you caught up on Dolphins Falcons Take two.
Speaker 3: We'll hear from head coach Mike McDaniel, quarterback to a
Speaker 3: tongue Bai looa on the week of work, plus more
Speaker 3: camp evaluation discussions and a heck of a lot more
Speaker 3: from Bradley Chubb, Elijah Higgins Javon Holland and more, more
Speaker 3: and more from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist
Speaker 3: Health Training Complex.
Speaker 5: This is the Drift.
Speaker 3: Time podcast, Hey Gaffe, same setup today, Defense far field,
Speaker 3: offense near field, and we moved inside at the end
Speaker 3: of practice. And let me tell you how appreciated that was.
Speaker 3: With the weather being what it was. It's very very hot,
Speaker 3: I hear right now. Red zone work once again got
Speaker 3: to go inside to allow for utilizing both ends of
Speaker 3: the field, and the offense in that period was right
Speaker 3: underneath us on the platform. Defense on the other side
Speaker 3: of the field, So again a better view of offense
Speaker 3: all day long.
Speaker 5: We'll break it.
Speaker 3: Down position by a position best we can once again,
Speaker 3: but full transparency. It is difficult to get detailed notes
Speaker 3: on that far field. So really I mostly have splash plays,
Speaker 3: not going to have any technique or certain you know,
Speaker 3: innocuous type of plays that I usually like to put
Speaker 3: on the podcast. Here, especially with the offense happening simultaneously
Speaker 3: right in front of you, it tends to catch your
Speaker 3: eye and it did for me here once again. But
Speaker 3: generally speaking, I thought it was a similar day for
Speaker 3: the offense. Inconsistent some good splash plays, good execution down
Speaker 3: in the red zone, but by and large, probably not
Speaker 3: the finished product that you're ultimately looking for. Luckily, it's
Speaker 3: August ninth, and it means how much, well, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 3: Both coach and Tua talked about the progression of camp
Speaker 3: and the purpose of these days and the ultimate evaluation
Speaker 3: not coming down to a specific day, but rather the
Speaker 3: entire body of work.
Speaker 2: If the goal is you know, average, then I was
Speaker 2: super pumped.
Speaker 7: The I really like joint practices for the sake of
Speaker 7: I want everyone's best effort. The tricky thing about it is,
Speaker 7: and as I've learned over the course of my career,
Speaker 7: you know, so what what if the offense had the
Speaker 7: greatest practice in the history of all practices.
Speaker 4: Or.
Speaker 7: Or the opposite happens, it's the worst practice. What does
Speaker 7: that mean for today? And that's kind of my point
Speaker 7: is there there was stuff that irritated me, there's stuff
Speaker 7: that pumped me up. We did physically strain through through
Speaker 7: some heat against a new opponent. The main focus to
Speaker 7: me is was that practice purposeful? How do you make
Speaker 7: it purposeful? Your approach today and it's not the same
Speaker 7: mistakes you know that we have procedural penalties.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping to not have any today.
Speaker 7: If we have some, as long as it's not the
Speaker 7: guys that did it the day before, I can work
Speaker 7: with that. It's when yesterday was a waste, then then
Speaker 7: it's a bigger issue.
Speaker 2: So you know, I was I was happy that we.
Speaker 7: Worked, you know, for where we're trying to go. I
Speaker 7: shouldn't be really happy with any practice in terms of
Speaker 7: the Okay, we're good. It's not like that. You know,
Speaker 7: last year we Philly is a great example. We practiced
Speaker 7: against Philly and that was the first time offensively that
Speaker 7: I think that we felt all eleven people executing simultaneously.
Speaker 7: And you know, no one scores a practice. But if
Speaker 7: you guys were to say, hey, they won that day,
Speaker 7: it wouldn't sound crazy.
Speaker 2: The Eagles went to the super Bowl. We did not.
Speaker 7: But that was a very important practice for us because
Speaker 7: it was the first time that we clicked, I thought,
Speaker 7: and that it led into the first drive of the
Speaker 7: preseason game. So yesterday, I like the fact that guys
Speaker 7: were straining and very annoyed at the result.
Speaker 2: That means we're in good spot.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna just keep going for the next half an hour,
Speaker 7: and so anyway about it, today's practice is more important
Speaker 7: than last.
Speaker 3: I was curious about this because through the first you know,
Speaker 3: eight practices, Toua hadn't thrown a pick in team period
Speaker 3: eleven to one eleven. We've now seen four in the
Speaker 3: last three practices. So I asked him, is it beneficial
Speaker 3: to have some negative plays on tape to give you
Speaker 3: a chance to really correct it and visualize what.
Speaker 5: Not to do in those instances. Here's QB one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you have a lot to correct when
Speaker 6: you have more negatives than you do positive. Obviously you
Speaker 6: want to have more positive. But it's good when you
Speaker 6: have a joint practice. For us in the quarterback room,
Speaker 6: looking at it from the outside end, we didn't have
Speaker 6: a gauge on what they were going to be running
Speaker 6: or what to expect. We had one day under our belt,
Speaker 6: and so the second day we did come out, you know,
Speaker 6: there were things that we wanted to try. You know,
Speaker 6: so when you do go into the game, should you
Speaker 6: try it again? Like should you not try it? That's
Speaker 6: you know, your discretion. So I think it's it's good
Speaker 6: because you learn so much from those things. But outside
Speaker 6: of that, you know, you just continue to keep moving
Speaker 6: forward with it, keep playing.
Speaker 3: And I really think that that answer right there gives
Speaker 3: you the context you need. There's no studying for a
Speaker 3: practice opponent. If your script that you've generated without any
Speaker 3: thought about how the defense might play you is matched
Speaker 3: by what they want to work on, then it just
Speaker 3: is what it is like. If they have the game
Speaker 3: plan to takeaway what you're gonna do, It's gonna be
Speaker 3: a rough day from a practice standpoint, but it gives
Speaker 3: you the exact look against that look that might run
Speaker 3: into in the season to go back on and study
Speaker 3: and prepare and be better for it. It goes back
Speaker 3: to what I talked about with past rushers and double teams.
Speaker 3: You don't see protection scheming in practice, so we're never
Speaker 3: going to see, for instance, Jalen Phillips face a double team.
Speaker 5: It just doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: I want to go back to coach here on this
Speaker 3: because I think he has a little more detail about
Speaker 3: just that and how you balance the idea of running
Speaker 3: your stuff and keeping stuff close to the vest in
Speaker 3: terms of showing your cards on the offense.
Speaker 5: Here's Coach.
Speaker 2: It's something that you have to kind of be forward thinking.
Speaker 7: I'm very aware when we have fan days of technology.
Speaker 7: I'm very aware of stadium practices. I'm very aware of
Speaker 7: joint practices. There's a balance and for me, I'm less
Speaker 7: secretive then I think I would have thought it would
Speaker 7: have been early in my career, just because.
Speaker 2: You know, they if the if the.
Speaker 7: Offense is constructed the right way, everything has a counter
Speaker 7: to it. So at this point we have to get
Speaker 7: good at stuff. I probably hide less, but there's definitely
Speaker 7: stuff that that you don't you don't want to put
Speaker 7: on tape, especially if you're Iron iron the kinks out
Speaker 7: of it. So it's a fun balance. But for the
Speaker 7: most part, we're just trying to create situate, create situations
Speaker 7: that are competitive within offense that we do do so
Speaker 7: that with the idea being you get to evaluate guys
Speaker 7: and guys are put in difficult positions like a game
Speaker 7: or hopefully more difficult positions.
Speaker 3: It's pretty fitting to me that they did not get
Speaker 3: response work to the stuff we saw the Chargers do
Speaker 3: last year, and what I mean by that is the
Speaker 3: stuff we talked about in the podcast earlier, with the
Speaker 3: the solutions to the issues you might face with taking
Speaker 3: away the bread and butter, that middle of the field
Speaker 3: passing game, the timing rhythm offense that Tua and Tyreek
Speaker 3: and Jalen were so sharp with. And again to reiterate
Speaker 3: this point, we really haven't gotten much of Tua, Tyreek
Speaker 3: and Wattle together. We certainly haven't gotten those guys with
Speaker 3: t set on the offensive line. So you still have
Speaker 3: not gotten the Dolphins full compliment. And I don't want
Speaker 3: to use that as some like prevailing excuse, because there's
Speaker 3: gonna be times in the season when you don't have
Speaker 3: all those guys and you know, good players elevate, you know,
Speaker 3: all all boats or all tides or something like that
Speaker 3: gold jacket, green jacket, and we just haven't seen that
Speaker 3: yet in the practice field, at least not for more
Speaker 3: than a couple of snaps. So I think it's important
Speaker 3: to get that context out there. And with regards to
Speaker 3: the you know, what the Chargers did to the Dolphins
Speaker 3: offense last year was the best game plan against Miami,
Speaker 3: and it forced them to do some other things, and
Speaker 3: they didn't hit the splash play opportunities that were there
Speaker 3: for them, like the deep ball to Tyreek that he
Speaker 3: lost in the lights or whatever that was. And so
Speaker 3: while the Dolphins did push the ball to the perimeter,
Speaker 3: I don't think they executed it well enough.
Speaker 5: They can they can do.
Speaker 3: That with their answer, but they have to be sharper
Speaker 3: than they were today. They got some, but I think
Speaker 3: it will only serve to make them better because now
Speaker 3: they can wrap it more and have immediate solutions of
Speaker 3: the things that gave them issues in a practice that
Speaker 3: caused you know, last year in season games and a
Speaker 3: two week drop off in production. Because again remember it
Speaker 3: was just those two games and then one quarter in
Speaker 3: the Green Bay game.
Speaker 5: So I think it's all going to be beneficial in
Speaker 5: the long run.
Speaker 3: I just keep thinking about the Eagles joint practice comment
Speaker 3: when things kind of click for this offense. You know,
Speaker 3: all eleven guys working together on the same page, and
Speaker 3: it's you know, yeah, it is year two, but you
Speaker 3: have to go through the same building block. You don't
Speaker 3: just start back at a certain level of you know,
Speaker 3: we're at level five compared to level one, like you
Speaker 3: can be more advanced, but you have to.
Speaker 5: Go through those paces to begin with.
Speaker 3: Because I also remember the Bucks practices when it was
Speaker 3: touchdown city in the red zone and in general, just
Speaker 3: a really good two days of work up in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: So what does it all mean. Well, like coach mentioned,
Speaker 3: it's about what's next. You might recall after a really
Speaker 3: strong camp last year, the offense had a very luggage
Speaker 3: start against the Patriots, just scored twenty points against a
Speaker 3: Patriots team that you know wasn't great last year, only
Speaker 3: scored seven in the first half against Baltimore, and then
Speaker 3: had the best performance by a quarterback in team history
Speaker 3: since Dan Reno was here. So it clicked, you know,
Speaker 3: third quarter or fourth quarter of that game. So in
Speaker 3: the end, it's about what's next. I guess that's the
Speaker 3: point here. I don't know, I get it. I used
Speaker 3: to really let these reports affect me, you know, the
Speaker 3: practice reports swayed my thoughts about the team and maybe
Speaker 3: even affect the whole day in terms of, oh Ryan
Speaker 3: Tannel had a bad day of practice. I'm sad now,
Speaker 3: But also in hindsight, I should have known the reports
Speaker 3: I was reading and taken the context with those with
Speaker 3: a grain of salt. But now I think I feel
Speaker 3: like I have better up understanding of the journey and
Speaker 3: what they're really trying to take from these practices, opposed
Speaker 3: to just saying, like pick.
Speaker 5: Bad Travis sad. That's funny. It made me laugh.
Speaker 3: Speaking of last year, I wanted to ask too about
Speaker 3: the comment that coach has made a few times now
Speaker 3: in practice or I should say, his pre practice media
Speaker 3: availabilities about the journey. And by the way, when you
Speaker 3: get like NFL films, like your book story next year
Speaker 3: is totally going to be the Dolphins. Something about the journey,
Speaker 3: just based on the words we're hearing this year, but
Speaker 3: about how things click at different points for different guys.
Speaker 3: Do you remember a specific time to where things clicked
Speaker 3: for you last year?
Speaker 5: Here's the Dolphins quarterback.
Speaker 6: Not too sure when when I felt a click or
Speaker 6: when it was, but I was really dialed in on
Speaker 6: just trying to figure out the like how the offense
Speaker 6: was ran, how Mike wants the offense ran, who Mike
Speaker 6: is as a play caller.
Speaker 2: I was just dialed in.
Speaker 6: On all of that and not not worrying much about
Speaker 6: how my play was. I just felt as if if
Speaker 6: I go through you know how Mike would would expect
Speaker 6: us to go through progressions, go through reads, and we
Speaker 6: should be fine. Just find a completion wherever it may
Speaker 6: be and get the guys going.
Speaker 5: And for posterity.
Speaker 3: Coach also touched on that when he was asked this
Speaker 3: morning about Mike White.
Speaker 7: Here's coach, He's he's had a really cool couple of
Speaker 7: weeks just getting used to everything. Uh, the quarterback position,
Speaker 7: you're in charge with the ball every play and you
Speaker 7: have to tell everyone their assignment. So that's there's a
Speaker 7: lot that goes into that, which is one of the
Speaker 7: numerous reasons that I reserve judgment because I'm, you know,
Speaker 7: such a level minded, you know, adult, mature guy, and uh,
Speaker 7: well with him, you know, his his personality off the bat,
Speaker 7: he exuded quarterback confidence and and and really developed relationships
Speaker 7: with his teammates. And you've seen a steady progression of
Speaker 7: more and more plays and more and more confidence to
Speaker 7: operate within the timing of our specific offense.
Speaker 2: So he's doing a good job.
Speaker 7: As it relates to the preseason game, there's still a
Speaker 7: hearty practice today and again, uh, I'd like to let
Speaker 7: the players determine things.
Speaker 2: On the field. Whoever does play.
Speaker 7: Before the other player in the preseason game from the
Speaker 7: quarterback position, that won't suggest that that person.
Speaker 2: Is gonna be to his backup.
Speaker 7: It will be based upon the reps opportunities, what we
Speaker 7: think is best for the guys, and then in true
Speaker 7: competition form, it will probably flop the next week.
Speaker 3: So let's talk about those quarterbacks here to kick off
Speaker 3: the practice notes. I thought Tua was pretty damn precise
Speaker 3: in the red zone seven on seven session. I thought
Speaker 3: there were a few really nice throws sprinkled in, including
Speaker 3: one where I loved his footwork under duress to get
Speaker 3: off the spot and put himself in position to kind
Speaker 3: of spring load his step that takes him out of
Speaker 3: the pocket, and he kind of, you know, springs out
Speaker 3: of that position into a free space, you know, away
Speaker 3: from the rush, attack the lion scrimmage and throw the
Speaker 3: ball outside to Robbie Chosen with a defender closing over
Speaker 3: the top and a defender getting depth from underneath to
Speaker 3: kind of shrink that window, and Tua just layers this
Speaker 3: ball into a perfect spot and Robbie Chosen has it
Speaker 3: just beyond the outstretched arm of the defender, but he
Speaker 3: couldn't hang on for the catch. The red zone seven
Speaker 3: on seven period was a good example of some quality placement,
Speaker 3: including another shot to Chosen to really settle him down
Speaker 3: into a soft spot for a touchdown. And protect him
Speaker 3: from a collision if it were live, of course, but
Speaker 3: I also thought there were some not so good, especially
Speaker 3: the final sequence in two minute when it was incomplete,
Speaker 3: a well contested throw to akhmb a ball to the
Speaker 3: perimeter to Braxton Burials that he left way too far
Speaker 3: inside to give the dB a play on the football
Speaker 3: and it was a far hash throw. And look, he
Speaker 3: made the exact same throw to Wada last year when
Speaker 3: Denzel war was in coverage, like a perfect ball. He
Speaker 3: just missed on this one and it wasn't picked but
Speaker 3: it was broken up.
Speaker 8: Whop.
Speaker 5: Sorry about that.
Speaker 3: Also had a pick to Jalen Hawkins who was camped
Speaker 3: in the middle of the field, and Tua tried to
Speaker 3: throw one of his quick anticipation throws where I thought like, oh,
Speaker 3: he sees something, but the safety was right there the
Speaker 3: whole time and didn't move.
Speaker 5: It was a bad pick. Just call it what it was.
Speaker 3: I thought Mike White was pretty good today. He had
Speaker 3: a nice rip in that same seven on seven red
Speaker 3: zone period where he put the ball into a tight
Speaker 3: window for six. You can see it on our Twitter
Speaker 3: account in Miami Dolphins. He also had three of the
Speaker 3: four consecutive touchdowns in the indoor red zone period. Now
Speaker 3: two of those, one from Mike White one from Skyler
Speaker 3: were complete buffs with Tyreek Hill and Julian Hill left.
Speaker 5: All alone, like literally all alone.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the dbs were doing, but they both
Speaker 3: took off to the wrong side of the field and
Speaker 3: left receivers wide open. The other was a good throw
Speaker 3: to Higgins, allowing for him to angle towards the front pylon,
Speaker 3: and the ball placement helped him make the transition from
Speaker 3: route runner to ball carrier. Love the way Higgins got
Speaker 3: into that transition and beat the defender for six to
Speaker 3: the spot. Skyler made the best throw I've seen from
Speaker 3: him all camp, and not just by like his own standard,
Speaker 3: by any quarterback standard a pier dot. There were six
Speaker 3: seconds left in a two minute drill. He had four
Speaker 3: consecutive completions to put them at the forty or so
Speaker 3: yard line, three of those to Chris Coleman, who I
Speaker 3: think had one of those NBA jam He's on moments
Speaker 3: because he came off the pile or after the catch
Speaker 3: one time like screaming at the defense talking about like
Speaker 3: you know who I am. Now back to the throw,
Speaker 3: Skyler gets off his spot and attacks the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 3: fires a strike into the end zone. With two Falcon
Speaker 3: defenders converging, it splits them and finds a diving devon
Speaker 3: a chain for a long touchdown. The entire team ran
Speaker 3: down and celebrity with a rookie. Very cool to see,
Speaker 3: maybe the playoff camp so far, and a good way
Speaker 3: to conclude a strong period after a day where, look,
Speaker 3: this Falcons defense has been rebuilt. I think they might
Speaker 3: be pretty damn good. Like my takeaway from these two days.
Speaker 3: I know who the Dolphins are, I know what they're
Speaker 3: going to be this year, but I think this team
Speaker 3: could compete for the NFC South Crown with that division
Speaker 3: being what it is and a strong defense and running game.
Speaker 3: Before to take our last break, let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: hear from Tua who touched on the other two quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: Mike White and Skyler Thompson.
Speaker 2: I see a lot.
Speaker 6: I got the most respect for both of those guys.
Speaker 6: This is going to be the second year that Skyler's
Speaker 6: in the room with me. I mean, I know Skyler,
Speaker 6: we have a lot of animated conversations about football and
Speaker 6: then just getting to know Mike White as well. Mike
Speaker 6: White's very smart, you know, in the quarterback room, he
Speaker 6: has a lot of uh, he has a lot to
Speaker 6: say as far as input as well. So it's really
Speaker 6: good to have both of them in there.
Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and take the first break there. Deep
Speaker 3: into the podcast. We'll come back on the other side
Speaker 3: and get my chat with Elijah Higgins Puss. We'll hear
Speaker 3: from Bradley Chubb and Javon holland all that next in
Speaker 3: the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield.
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Speaker 3: So a football game on Friday night, but the joint
Speaker 3: practices are commonplace across the league.
Speaker 5: What's the benefit of those. Let's go ahead and hear
Speaker 5: from QB one on just that.
Speaker 6: I think the one thing that's really cool about joint
Speaker 6: practices is it almost simulates game like situations where you
Speaker 6: have first down, second down, third downs, we had red downs,
Speaker 6: we have two minute situations. I think the cool thing
Speaker 6: about it is that you know everyone's getting their adrenaline
Speaker 6: going and you you never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You know, you get a fight out there.
Speaker 6: Like the biggest thing for us is we're trying to
Speaker 6: move on to the next play and like try to
Speaker 6: try to get back, try to get back on track
Speaker 6: as like fast as possible, So like not letting the
Speaker 6: last play dictate how we play the next play and
Speaker 6: how we're gonna move forward as an offense like for
Speaker 6: the following play. So I think that's that's what makes
Speaker 6: these joint practices good, is that it simulates game like
Speaker 6: situations and game like feelings before you actually go and
Speaker 6: you know, go out there and compete in actual games.
Speaker 3: All right, enough quarterback talk. I mentioned the play by
Speaker 3: a chain. Just about every day we get something from
Speaker 3: him like that. He is so much fun to watch.
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, don't let people tell you to not
Speaker 3: get excited about rookies, because this rookie looks pretty damn
Speaker 3: good to me. I thought savonn was excellent today.
Speaker 5: I love Savon Awkmen's game.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 3: He had a bunch of catches in the passing game,
Speaker 3: had a really nice lateral cut you know, takeoff or
Speaker 3: a chunk gain in elevens, then had a beautiful touchdown
Speaker 3: run down the low red zone that kirom my me
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills run last year where he you know,
Speaker 3: wiggled around the block and did some moves and powers
Speaker 3: his way into the end zone and did a little
Speaker 3: dance for us. I had a great view of that
Speaker 3: made the unblocked man miss the point like schemed up
Speaker 3: unblocked man, which you know when you're running back can
Speaker 3: do that. It really benefits the offense in general. And
Speaker 3: it's not like tag off where he you know, he
Speaker 3: tagged off and that was a mistackle.
Speaker 5: He made the guy with completely picks up.
Speaker 3: A block from Isaiah Win and slices his way into
Speaker 3: the end zone and does that dance. We had two
Speaker 3: guys exit practice today. They looked okay to me, but
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know anything medically. Alec Ingold and
Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle both walked off on their own. More on
Speaker 3: both of those guys later, but Waddle looked like he
Speaker 3: fell on the football, was down for a moment, but
Speaker 3: then popped back up and walked off. And then alec
Speaker 3: Ingold walked off on his own and didn't even be
Speaker 3: accompanied by a trainer.
Speaker 5: He just walked off into the building by himself.
Speaker 3: So we'll find out more about those guys, probably from
Speaker 3: I guess McDaniel post game. I don't know when they
Speaker 3: last him that next I thought Chosen had a really
Speaker 3: good day today, including a catch and run where he
Speaker 3: worked his way around some blocks on a screen and
Speaker 3: like picked his way through and got in.
Speaker 5: I didn't know he had the type of shiftiness in
Speaker 5: open space.
Speaker 3: So if he compare that with a long speed and
Speaker 3: he's really come on here, I think things have clicked
Speaker 3: for Chosen here after I've been kind of hard on
Speaker 3: him on the podcast. He also got opened a lot
Speaker 3: in the earlier red zone period, had some catches in
Speaker 3: the full field period as well. He's been He's making
Speaker 3: a case to push his way at the depth chart.
Speaker 3: I think Tyreek did a backflip after scoring a touchdown.
Speaker 3: He also dunk one over the goalpost. I mentioned Chris
Speaker 3: Coleman having a nice day and saying with Elijah Higgins
Speaker 3: moving me to the tight end position. Now, in fact,
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and play my chat I had with
Speaker 3: Dolphins tight end Elijah Higgins, a one on one here
Speaker 3: with the Miami rookie tight end. So I wanted to
Speaker 3: ask you because, like I mean, from my naked eye,
Speaker 3: it seems like your growth as a blocker has really come.
Speaker 5: A long way from day one. How would you just
Speaker 5: cratchrow that way.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I feel like I'm getting to a
Speaker 8: place where things are really starting to click slowly, and
Speaker 8: I'm like, Okay, I'm actually kind of understanding this a
Speaker 8: little bit more, whereas early on it was just like
Speaker 8: I don't even know what I'm looking at, just because
Speaker 8: I've never been in tier before. So i'd definitely say
Speaker 8: like it's just becoming a little more like not necessarily
Speaker 8: natural yet, but to the point where it's starting to
Speaker 8: click and I'm feeling it clicked a little bit better,
Speaker 8: just understanding what the front is, understanding what my job is,
Speaker 8: understanding the run concept, and where the ball is trying
Speaker 8: to get inside outside of me. So a lot of
Speaker 8: it's really starting to click for me, just the more
Speaker 8: I go back and review film and review the installs
Speaker 8: and whatnot. So it's coming together.
Speaker 5: All the motion and split full.
Speaker 3: This offense does seems like it kind of gives you
Speaker 3: at advantageous situation with angles.
Speaker 5: You kind of feel that same way from the time.
Speaker 8: Of position man, Like I said, it's still with piecing
Speaker 8: it together. So I mean, the first step is obviously
Speaker 8: like learning what the what the motion was in the
Speaker 8: first place, and now it's like learning Okay, how does
Speaker 8: this motion piece into what I'm trying to do or
Speaker 8: trying to accomplish. So, like I said, it's just kind
Speaker 8: of puzzle piecing together as I learned more and more
Speaker 8: and as I get coached up, So.
Speaker 3: All the routes from that inline position still pretty natural
Speaker 3: in terms of just you know, coming off with football,
Speaker 3: do you feel yourself kind of.
Speaker 8: Hat on the think first before you Yeah, I mean
Speaker 8: it's different just because you have I mean, if you
Speaker 8: have a nine tech or six step trying to release,
Speaker 8: if you're in three point stance. I'm still getting comfortable
Speaker 8: coming out of three point stands, something I haven't done
Speaker 8: much of, but often there's a lot of times where
Speaker 8: I'm mean, either are a two point stance or a
Speaker 8: true receiver stance on third downs or whatnot. So like
Speaker 8: I said, it's coming together, and I'm just I'm just
Speaker 8: proud of my growth so far, and uh happy that
Speaker 8: I have somebody like coaching bo who's really pushing me
Speaker 8: every single day, like is always honest about stuff.
Speaker 4: So I'm happy for that.
Speaker 8: Tanner had mentioned something that you mentioned as well, that
Speaker 8: you know, when you're lining up in line.
Speaker 4: Everything you're looking at is completely different figure that wide receiver.
Speaker 4: What are you maybe looking at free snap? Your in
Speaker 4: line or maybe fle whatever? What are you what are
Speaker 4: you looking at free snap?
Speaker 8: Yeah, receiver, You're really just looking at the show, to
Speaker 8: be honest, trying to get an idea with the coverages.
Speaker 8: And then when you're in line, you're looking at the
Speaker 8: end the sam the mic, looking at those your little
Speaker 8: triangle there. So it's just things I never looked at
Speaker 8: before and just starting to slowly understand and get to
Speaker 8: click together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3: It's just so with UH, with Durham kind of being
Speaker 3: the old head in the room, how is it kind
Speaker 3: of taking you under wing and that mentor.
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, they've been very open to UH to helping
Speaker 8: us like if we ever have a question, like we
Speaker 8: ever need some help. We as younger guys, definitely feel
Speaker 8: like that help is there. Obviously taking upon ourselves to
Speaker 8: answer our own questions where we can, like with him
Speaker 8: solves and stuff. But I mean, all the guys in
Speaker 8: the room very helpful. A lot of the guys TK
Speaker 8: has played for a while. I think TK is like
Speaker 8: thirty one, so he's been the league for a while. Obviously,
Speaker 8: Obviously no I think he literally is like thirty or
Speaker 8: thirty one, Oh, okay, and then obviously Durham this is
Speaker 8: I think it's sixty seventh year, so a lot of
Speaker 8: knowledge there and guys that have actually played the position
Speaker 8: not only in the league but for a long time.
Speaker 4: And obviously it's brand new to me.
Speaker 8: So just using all the help that I can get
Speaker 8: has been it's been very helpful for sure.
Speaker 5: Coach earlier, how would you describe his coaches?
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's on you, uh, and sometimes you feel like
Speaker 8: it's kind of attacking. But the more I get to
Speaker 8: no one understand coaching, but he really just wants you
Speaker 8: to grow. He really just wants you to understand like
Speaker 8: what he wants and why he wants that. Everything that
Speaker 8: he says really does help. And it's really just understanding
Speaker 8: what he wants on how he's coaching. And then when
Speaker 8: we're in the uh, we're in the film room, he
Speaker 8: really breaks it down to the point where you can
Speaker 8: really understand what's going on. But I mean, simply put,
Speaker 8: like one of the best coaches I've ever had, to
Speaker 8: be honest, the way he pushes us what he expects
Speaker 8: from us, even being the young guy like It's definitely
Speaker 8: very helpful for the growth that I'm going through right
Speaker 8: now in this process.
Speaker 5: Just wanted to curious how you feel his two days
Speaker 5: as an overall offense weren't for you guys in terms
Speaker 5: of the growth he showed. It's just the overall competitives.
Speaker 5: How do you feel the two days?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the first day, I feel like we
Speaker 8: came out a little a little rough. There was some
Speaker 8: rough edges. But today I feel like we kind of
Speaker 8: piece up together a lot more. Obviously, as a rookie,
Speaker 8: you don't really know like what to expect what it
Speaker 8: looks like as your first year in the league. But
Speaker 8: today I felt like we really did a decent job
Speaker 8: and put things together while we were supposed.
Speaker 3: To, likecross stream play your first.
Speaker 8: I'm excited, man, I'm very excited. Yeah, I'm excited. I
Speaker 8: appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 5: That's a stand alert. Travis has a new player.
Speaker 3: He's gonna stand I love Elijah Higgins game, and I
Speaker 3: think he's a fairy good player. I think the way
Speaker 3: he communicates and just the way his mind works, very
Speaker 3: bright young man. I think the offensive line had some
Speaker 3: real vigor to it today and it began with Rob Hunt,
Speaker 3: who still made it a Falcons pass rusher. I didn't
Speaker 3: see the number on the guy. It's so hard to
Speaker 3: evaluate two teams in practice when you don't know numbers.
Speaker 3: Like you can talk about units, but individuals like I
Speaker 3: am so quick with Dolphin stuff because I know everyone's number,
Speaker 3: But for the Falcons man, it's tough to get that down.
Speaker 3: But he tried to extend this rep where it was
Speaker 3: over and Rob was like, no, I'm good Man and
Speaker 3: chucked him and threw him to the ground.
Speaker 5: That was cool to see.
Speaker 3: Fans got excited about that, but it starts with t
Speaker 3: stead Man. He was exceptional and limited team work he had.
Speaker 3: I saw him seal a lane on a good run
Speaker 3: from a chain a la chain an a chain lane.
Speaker 5: That's cool.
Speaker 3: I saw him throw a snatch and trap, which is
Speaker 3: where you kind of you if they try a bowl rush,
Speaker 3: you get distance and then you snatch him by the
Speaker 3: jersey and throw them to the ground. Did that very effectively.
Speaker 3: I saw all I needed to see from the big fella.
Speaker 3: He's ready to go. Man, still our player and looking
Speaker 3: forward to having him week one over to the defense again.
Speaker 5: It's not easy to see at all.
Speaker 3: Man but the general takeaway on the defensive side was
Speaker 3: I thought they got after it. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 3: hear from Bradley Chubb who talked a little bit about
Speaker 3: the front seven of the camp they've had so far.
Speaker 4: I'm excited about this front seven.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 9: We got a lot of great talent, man, a lot
Speaker 9: of good guys that's playing for each other.
Speaker 4: And playing together, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9: And I feel like last year kind of we didn't
Speaker 9: when me coming in late, we didn't jail, and we
Speaker 9: got a whole off season at jail and understand each other,
Speaker 9: how each other, rush, hire each other, play off each
Speaker 9: other and stuff like that. So, like I said yesterday,
Speaker 9: with the first seven, I feel like we did okay,
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. But we had to respond
Speaker 9: today and I feel like we did that. And it's
Speaker 9: gonna be fun just to see us keep building and
Speaker 9: keep building, face that adversity and build off that, build
Speaker 9: off that, and build off that. So, like I said,
Speaker 9: enjoying the process that comes with it and just taking
Speaker 9: it day by day, taking.
Speaker 5: It day by day. I just might get some clay.
Speaker 3: I just may My favorite part was the Falcons ones
Speaker 3: versus our ones in a two minute period where Desmon
Speaker 3: Rider completed a pass to mac Hollins for like fifteen yards.
Speaker 3: They get up on the ball and they snap it
Speaker 3: and Jail and Phillips condenses inside and steam rolls the center.
Speaker 3: This guy can brush the edge and you can steam
Speaker 3: roll the center just runs him into the quarterback and
Speaker 3: Rider steps up right into him, and Phillips kind of
Speaker 3: just like wrapped him up because Rider came into him,
Speaker 3: and Phillips said, like all right, wrapover sack and then
Speaker 3: came off the pile and was fired up. Then they
Speaker 3: went quick again and Chubb this time beats Jake Matthews
Speaker 3: off the edge, who never gave an inch all day.
Speaker 3: Matthews is a great player, but he gets beat by
Speaker 3: Chubb on this play and tripped him. Flag comes out
Speaker 3: back him up was the fifteen yards and then they
Speaker 3: threw a check down end of drive.
Speaker 5: So those are your closers man, Chubb and Phillips.
Speaker 3: I also asked Chub about the idea of playing that
Speaker 3: closer role as a pass rusher.
Speaker 4: Here he is timilar mentality.
Speaker 9: Man, We're just trying to get out to make sure
Speaker 9: that big dogs, like I said, I got to eat.
Speaker 4: When to close the game out.
Speaker 9: Everybody on the team's looking at us to do that,
Speaker 9: and they might not say that out loud, but that's
Speaker 9: how we take it.
Speaker 4: That's how we.
Speaker 9: Wear it on our shoulders, and we make sure that
Speaker 9: we lived to that standard every day.
Speaker 3: This is a quick aside, but I thought it was
Speaker 3: worth playing because I talk about it all the time,
Speaker 3: and since I had him from medi Availabilities, just wanted
Speaker 3: to ask Bradly about the emphasis of set in the
Speaker 3: edge in the running game.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 9: We just want to be disruptive as possible. We call
Speaker 9: ourselves the big dogs, so big dogs gotta eat. Man
Speaker 9: said to edge, you gotta earn your way to the quarterback,
Speaker 9: and I feel like setting the edge and stopping the
Speaker 9: run is the first way to do that. So we
Speaker 9: got to make sure that we do that each and
Speaker 9: every play. And when it comes down to rush, we
Speaker 9: know that's what I'm saying, that's our strong suit. So
Speaker 9: we just got to make sure we maximize the best viabilities.
Speaker 3: Also on the front, Steiler has been really good these
Speaker 3: two days. Handful of plays and it's been three phase
Speaker 3: like sacks, run, stuff's battered balls.
Speaker 5: It's a really good player, man.
Speaker 3: Mitchelle a Goode had a would be sack on Logan Woodside.
Speaker 3: I saw Van Ginkel have a few plays against the
Speaker 3: run in this practice as well. He and Malik Reid
Speaker 3: had a really good fit combo where b John Robinson
Speaker 3: tried to dissect and pick a gap and it just
Speaker 3: wasn't there for him because forty three and forty seven
Speaker 3: were both there at the same time.
Speaker 5: So good work from the front seven.
Speaker 3: Again, We've got dbs to go, including audio from Javon Holland.
Speaker 3: That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought
Speaker 3: to you by Autoation. Let's kick off the final segment
Speaker 3: here with some back and forth with Javon Holland, who
Speaker 3: talked about his relationship with Vic Fangio, how excited he
Speaker 3: is to have a guy like that here in the building,
Speaker 3: and then how he measures the defense's progress in these
Speaker 3: joint practices.
Speaker 5: Three straight answers here from Dolphin safety Javon Holly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going well, man.
Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to get every ounce of knowledge
Speaker 1: out of him. You know, he's a individual with a
Speaker 1: big well of knowledge and I'm trying to learn as
Speaker 1: much as possible.
Speaker 4: Honestly, how he.
Speaker 1: Sees the game, you know what things did improve? H
Speaker 1: He's very level headed, whether it's a good day, bad day,
Speaker 1: but not he's always level headed. So as a leader,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to really you know, learn from him because
Speaker 1: a lot of guys follow him easily. It's not hard
Speaker 1: to buy into his program to start process because he
Speaker 1: is a hell of a coach and he's got a
Speaker 1: hell of a mindset. So it's a it's a great
Speaker 1: experience for me. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Any time somebody that
Speaker 1: knows ball to that level is like around you, you
Speaker 1: just want to ask as many questions as possible, always
Speaker 1: asking him, like what he's thinking in between periods, like
Speaker 1: what he sees.
Speaker 4: I can improve.
Speaker 1: Like I said, like, I'm trying to bring as much.
Speaker 4: Knowledge out of that child as possible.
Speaker 1: So, uh, you know, it's a it's a great opportunity
Speaker 1: for me. I think you have to play take it
Speaker 1: rep by rep just you know, execution wise.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: A lot of times things get you know, competitive, and
Speaker 1: you know, temperatures rise and guys trying to make a
Speaker 1: play you get out of you know, out of placement.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think today was good. I think
Speaker 4: it was a good learning experience for us. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, both days was good for us. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, playing ball at a high level
Speaker 1: against your own team is one thing, but playing against
Speaker 1: somebody else, uh, you know, adds that level of competitiveness
Speaker 1: that makes people really like, you know, puts more feeling
Speaker 1: in your tank. And I think that's what you know,
Speaker 1: the joint practice I have done for us, and so
Speaker 1: as a defense, it's good to get that, you know,
Speaker 1: that type of energy, you know, feel how it feels
Speaker 1: to hit somebody else, and so that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: kind that's basically my thought process on that.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the safeties, one had to pick six in
Speaker 3: today's practice. Rookie Kedrin Smith on the far field really
Speaker 3: did a good job key in the quarterback and driving
Speaker 3: on a short throw, picking it off and taking it
Speaker 3: back for a six. A really impressive play for rookie
Speaker 3: who I thinks had a pretty strong camp so far.
Speaker 3: And the dbs were playmakers really all day today. Noah
Speaker 3: iguinoghany Oh the no what train is off and running
Speaker 3: once again. He had a wrap that I think really
Speaker 3: exemplified the growth he's made this training camp. It's a
Speaker 3: two minute period they throw an end breaker that he
Speaker 3: drives on and is right there to disrupt the catch
Speaker 3: point and legit thought he was gonna pick it off.
Speaker 5: But the quarterback, whether it.
Speaker 3: Was intentional or not, put the ball on the back
Speaker 3: shoulder of the receiver of the back hip, and the
Speaker 3: receiver makes the catch, but Noah stays right with it
Speaker 3: and rips the ball out and the officials ruled it
Speaker 3: a fumble. Veron mckimley comes in there and picks up
Speaker 3: and takes it back for six. And that's two touchdowns
Speaker 3: in two days from McKinley. But Igunogny's feel is just
Speaker 3: so much better, and that's it, really. He just looks
Speaker 3: way more comfortable. He's making plays. He's in the right spot,
Speaker 3: he's not covering grass, he's pinning guys at the perimeter
Speaker 3: when he has a chance to had a really good
Speaker 3: rep on Kyle Pitts and red zone work today that
Speaker 3: I tweeted about that folks were pretty excited about. Elijah
Speaker 3: Campbell had another pass breakup. X did two and Cater
Speaker 3: never gets targeted anymore. It must be a good sign
Speaker 3: for him. He's been excellent so far this camp. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: special team's note. First one of all training camp I
Speaker 3: think so far, I'll give you two. Actually, Jake Bailey's
Speaker 3: punting the ball pretty damn well. He already won the
Speaker 3: punting job obviously, Jake Bailey, Dan Feenivon akmed block to
Speaker 3: punt as well, or he would have if you didn't
Speaker 3: pull up at the last second.
Speaker 5: So there you go. Those are your practice notes of
Speaker 5: a podcast coming away tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Mike Kunio is gonna be my guest from CBS Miami.
Speaker 3: We'll do my ten camp takeaway so far and a
Speaker 3: bunch more for you guys there. Then have a game
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