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Speaker 3: your boy Big still along with Jill y'all finally got
Speaker 3: them back up in here. What's going on with you?
Speaker 2: Good bro? Yeah, I'm straight man, just chilling, trying to
Speaker 2: take it easy.
Speaker 3: Man, Hey you beg you know I want to touch
Speaker 3: on some football a little bit, just a little bit
Speaker 3: off the norm norm. You see the Jets fired the
Speaker 3: head coach. Yeah, I saw that. You think it was
Speaker 3: too soon? You think they gave him enough time to
Speaker 3: try to change the situation around.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, shit, just like everybody shave when
Speaker 4: you when you don't have a good record and you
Speaker 4: got a star quarterback, which really dictating a lot of
Speaker 4: what's going on. I mean, I guess everybody could see
Speaker 4: that the relationship wasn't you know, it wasn't substantial between
Speaker 4: them too, So it was just a matter of time
Speaker 4: before they got rid of it and brought somebody in
Speaker 4: that you you know, he probably approves better.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what, though, it seemed like right now
Speaker 3: the players kind of controlling what goes on in the league.
Speaker 4: Well, when you got a star player, definitely they gonna
Speaker 4: dictate something. You know, you gotta you got a veteran,
Speaker 4: you know, you gotta Tom Brady, you gotta Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 4: you got somebody of significance, you know, Patrick Mahomes or whatever.
Speaker 4: Star players got star power, they're able to dictate you
Speaker 4: know a lot of shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what though, that's a slippery slope though,
Speaker 3: because I do believe the coach has to take ultimate accountability.
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, them dudes gotta
Speaker 3: go out there and play. They all making a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of money. They gotta go out there and perform.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that too, but.
Speaker 4: They gonna put it on the fact of the game
Speaker 4: plan of what the head coach is doing. I'm not
Speaker 4: following right now, so it's altering my play You know,
Speaker 4: I'm a start player.
Speaker 2: I know what I can do.
Speaker 4: But if I got a coach whose playbook is altering
Speaker 4: my motherfucking position, then it's gonna be some complaints going
Speaker 4: damn especially you know what's more valuable?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's real. And with the amount of money they
Speaker 3: paying these head coaches, man, I guess they gotta hold
Speaker 3: them accountable.
Speaker 4: We're not gonna get ready to start, so somebody's got
Speaker 4: to take the helm, and that's usually the head coach.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: If they don't start winning after this, he'd be gone
Speaker 3: next because that's the where usually go. I see, man,
Speaker 3: you know I'm gonna touch on something nels too. You see,
Speaker 3: USC lost the Minnesota this past weekend. My son's am
Speaker 3: a matyrn. I'm a big SC fan on always have
Speaker 3: men always probably will continue on. But they're paying link
Speaker 3: aroundy a lot of money. Man, he got to win
Speaker 3: those type of games, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't under and a lot of upsets and
Speaker 2: shit this week this past week.
Speaker 4: The thing is you just can't underestimate the underdog, which
Speaker 4: a lot of high profile teams do. A team to
Speaker 4: underestimate the underdog and not realizing that, you know, we
Speaker 4: got us a couple of portal players too over here,
Speaker 4: you get me. So the grit and the determination from
Speaker 4: the underdog might overwhelm the relaxation of the star team
Speaker 4: that weekend. And you know you look up a motherfucker
Speaker 4: jump on you twenty one nothing and you know now
Speaker 4: you got to play ketchup all game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the problem is, though, Bro, I
Speaker 3: know SCS defense been playing real good man, as see,
Speaker 3: need a defensive mind that head coached me. Ain't ain't
Speaker 3: no knock against Lincoln. I'm not talking bad against him,
Speaker 3: but when you're paying somebody one hundred million dollars, Bro,
Speaker 3: they gotta win. And he don't have been there for
Speaker 3: three years right now they should beat like this should
Speaker 3: have been the year that they was gonna really play
Speaker 3: for a national lamp, a national championship. They should have
Speaker 3: beat Michigan a few weeks ago. And I know they
Speaker 3: didn't have some calls go they way, but fuck them calls.
Speaker 3: The game shouldn't even have been that close. Michigan don't
Speaker 3: even got a quarterback. They should have beat Michigan and
Speaker 3: they damn sure shouldn't have lost to No. Minnesota. And
Speaker 3: the thing is, you put up seventeen points. I think
Speaker 3: they need to make a change a quarterback. I wouldn't
Speaker 3: mind seeing the kid that transfer from unf come in
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, you gotta have
Speaker 3: a dynamic quarterback. Especially. You got to think about Lincoln
Speaker 3: Riley in the past and his systems. He's had Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 3: he got the brother he had Baker Mayfield, he got
Speaker 3: the kid that came out last year, he got the
Speaker 3: other brother to play for Philly. So he's had all
Speaker 3: of these dynamic quarterbacks, right. They can run, amble and
Speaker 3: do stuff. He's never really had a quarterback that it
Speaker 3: was just a statue just staying back there and just
Speaker 3: throw the football. That's the kid is nothing. I'm not
Speaker 3: against him. I like him a lot. He was there
Speaker 3: with my son was there, but they need they gotta
Speaker 3: win games, bro, and they gotta happen.
Speaker 2: Now, Like I said, the dynamic of of.
Speaker 4: People estimating that you know, you're getting paid one hundred
Speaker 4: million dollars, so.
Speaker 2: The team should be unbeatable.
Speaker 4: We shouldn't lose a game, and that's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You get me games, not not them games.
Speaker 3: They you ain't supposed to lose.
Speaker 2: No Minnesota dog, what says who?
Speaker 4: We're gonna come out and fight you motherfuckers just as
Speaker 4: hard as anything.
Speaker 2: Well, we're just supposed to lay down because y'all s
Speaker 2: c no.
Speaker 3: Way, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: And that's the whole point.
Speaker 4: The point is as se is coming in like nigga,
Speaker 4: we and see we got this game already in the bag.
Speaker 4: And for somebody like Minnesota who's like nigga, we been
Speaker 4: waiting all our.
Speaker 2: Days for some shit like this.
Speaker 4: So we gonna come out and play, y'all, just like
Speaker 4: if this was the National Championship or if this was
Speaker 4: you know, and you can't you can't slack, and if
Speaker 4: you got players who's more about you know how much
Speaker 4: money is in my pocket and you know how clean
Speaker 4: the uniform is looking that day as opposed to Nigga.
Speaker 4: We shouldn't underestimate Minnesota. We should come out Nigga fired up.
Speaker 4: And sometimes you just don't have that you give me.
Speaker 4: You know, you've been in situations as a youth coach
Speaker 4: to where you know you finna go play a sorry
Speaker 4: team and you just underestimate them, and then you get
Speaker 4: in the game and next thing you know that niggas
Speaker 4: got fourteen and shit, and you looking like, what the
Speaker 4: fuck going on?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: I feel you eight? I don't even know. I don't
Speaker 3: necessarily think that that was a case of them underestimating
Speaker 3: because the defense plays good. The defense been playing good
Speaker 3: all season. I don't think Lincoln Radley is scoring enough points, bro,
Speaker 3: He's just not scoring enough points. Seventeen points is real
Speaker 3: pedestrian usually when you hold a team because see.
Speaker 4: What happens I've been noticing with and see is it
Speaker 4: he not scoring enough points or the offense ain't scoring,
Speaker 4: the players ain't scoring because all I can do is
Speaker 4: draw up a play, right, All I can do is
Speaker 4: draw up a play I can match up against what
Speaker 4: I see on film, what I've been seeing on film
Speaker 4: with this opposed team just like me, Koch. Just like
Speaker 4: with coaching you football, I would get game film on
Speaker 4: the opposing team for that week, right all week, I'm
Speaker 4: looking at this game film and I'm going Okay, they
Speaker 4: play at three five or they play a three four.
Speaker 4: They like to play double, they like to go man,
Speaker 4: they like the blitz.
Speaker 2: On blah blah blah.
Speaker 4: All I'm gonna do is I'm gonna go Okay. When
Speaker 4: I see a nigga line up like this, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: call this play. I'm a signal in this play the Koran,
Speaker 4: or when I see them line up in that four
Speaker 4: to three, i'ma I'm gonna run this way, or when
Speaker 4: I see them do this, I'm gonna run this way.
Speaker 2: That's what I do when I get in the game on.
Speaker 4: Saturday and a motherfucker come out in the six to two,
Speaker 4: and now I can't run the ball off tackles because
Speaker 4: instead of going up against the three four nigga, now
Speaker 4: I'm going up against the six to two.
Speaker 2: You gotta adjust, right, you get me.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we underestimated those teams, right, you know, you got you,
Speaker 4: you ad your team and you go like, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: we finna blow these niggas out.
Speaker 2: Forty to zero this week.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna tell you what the problem is with
Speaker 3: c I think, man, And it's kind of difficult for
Speaker 3: me to talk about them because that's my son's team, right,
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna talk from a fan perspective and just
Speaker 3: keep it real. The offensive line ain't got no better
Speaker 3: dog like we thought. I think people thought because we
Speaker 3: went out there and beat LSU this year, that was
Speaker 3: just gonna be the year we was gonna go undefeated
Speaker 3: this season. It's a lot of areas that we're still
Speaker 3: not improving in. Like as good as the defense is
Speaker 3: playing right now, Bro, they still get They giving up
Speaker 3: more yards now than they was last year. They given
Speaker 3: up like two hundred yards on the ground this year,
Speaker 3: So that's not gonna work right there. And they got
Speaker 3: a return man. I can't remember the kids name the
Speaker 3: dude that was returning all them kick off some punts.
Speaker 3: It was a freshman All American last year. He not
Speaker 3: balling the way he was his freshman year. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you what I think it is, Bro, I think
Speaker 3: this messed the game up. I really think this in
Speaker 3: their lives shit as good as it is for college football,
Speaker 3: I think it's fucking these kids up. Man. I think
Speaker 3: when you got kids that's making more than some of
Speaker 3: the people on the staff. You know, it's kids out
Speaker 3: there making three and four undred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 3: Not that I'm mad at that, bro, Not that I'm
Speaker 3: mad at that. But if you can't be focused and
Speaker 3: go out and handle your business, bro, your goal should
Speaker 3: be go to the league, not to go to college
Speaker 3: to get ricks. Right. If you're an elite player, you
Speaker 3: should be thinking, Okay, I'm going to the NFL. You
Speaker 3: got dudes talk about they gonna sit out of games
Speaker 3: because they ain't got the check they was promised. Like
Speaker 3: the kid from UNLV, he's not playing no more. He
Speaker 3: might have just played itself because he's setting out because
Speaker 3: they promised him a hundred thousand dollars, he said, and
Speaker 3: he not playing. The dude comes out there and score
Speaker 3: more points. His backup go out there and score more
Speaker 3: points and need to the whole season, So he might
Speaker 3: have just played himself. You gotta love playing football, dog,
Speaker 3: yeah too, because it can't just be about the bread, bro.
Speaker 3: It can't not at the college football dog. They gonna
Speaker 3: ruin the game with that shit dog because you. College
Speaker 3: and high school has to be the last two vestiges
Speaker 3: of football. Dog to where we going out there because
Speaker 3: we love to play football on the Friday night. I'm
Speaker 3: with my teammates, I'm with my dogs, I'm with my friends.
Speaker 3: If you going out there worried about, well, man, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna play this year. I'm a certain number of transfer.
Speaker 3: They've made it easy to work, kid can transfer now.
Speaker 3: Some of this stuff I'm with for the players, they
Speaker 3: should have they should have been gave kids a little
Speaker 3: bit more freedom to go play somewhere else under certain circumstances.
Speaker 3: But you've got kids that's leaving programs now, my nig
Speaker 3: just because they don't then getting the money they want,
Speaker 3: or because they don't want to compete against somebody.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, a lot of it. I try to explain
Speaker 4: that to Koran too. You know, before the portal and
Speaker 4: transferring and all of that, you had to sit so
Speaker 4: you know, it was just the privilege to be on
Speaker 4: the team.
Speaker 2: You get me, whether you.
Speaker 4: Was first, second, third, or fourth depth, you got a
Speaker 4: scholarship to go to USC or Alabama or whatever, and
Speaker 4: you would basically have to do what we call development, right,
Speaker 4: They developed players back. That's how that's how it happened
Speaker 4: before the transferred portal and n I L came. You
Speaker 4: have to sit your four years at school, right mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Some kids didn't play today's senior year.
Speaker 2: Right m hm.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't because they wasn't good enough. It's just
Speaker 4: because we're gonna we're gonna develop you. We're not just
Speaker 4: gonna bring you in and throw you in the fire.
Speaker 4: And nigga, we want you to learn the playbook. We
Speaker 4: want you to learn the cadences, the calls, the protections,
Speaker 4: we want you to learn.
Speaker 2: All that shit.
Speaker 4: Uh you know nowadays it's different than that. So that's
Speaker 4: why I try to tell Karan Ship, you used to
Speaker 4: have to sit at school.
Speaker 2: You didn't. You couldn't.
Speaker 4: You couldn't turn around and go, oh, well shit, I'm
Speaker 4: not finna play this year, so I'm fin the red
Speaker 4: shirt and transfer next year next season, and then all Ship,
Speaker 4: well shit, I'm not playing here this season because they
Speaker 4: already got two dudes, So fuck it.
Speaker 2: I'm a red shirt and transfer somewhere else.
Speaker 4: And you give me, how are you how are you
Speaker 4: ever gonna develop your skills and the further your talent
Speaker 4: if you know you got your lip poked out mad
Speaker 4: because every year you feel like, oh I should be
Speaker 4: starting and not developing, and so fuck it, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: And then your transfer status you're gonna keep going down, down, down.
Speaker 2: You get me. It ain't like you.
Speaker 4: It ain't like you're finna go from Alabama to usc
Speaker 4: and then the Ohio living but your transfer stock gonna
Speaker 4: keep going down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is because at some point, man, football is
Speaker 3: a game of competition. Ultimately, in the pros, that's what
Speaker 3: it is. Either you're gonna beat the mother sucker out
Speaker 3: or you gonna get cut, that's what it is. Or
Speaker 3: you're fighting to make a team right You're gonna have
Speaker 3: eventually right out the way it is, man. I heard
Speaker 3: some stuff. I asked one of the homies. This an
Speaker 3: sc about a defensive lineman. I used to like it
Speaker 3: was pretty good last year. I'm like, what's such and
Speaker 3: such a Oh man, he's sitting. No, he's not playing
Speaker 3: because he he figured he can go get more money
Speaker 3: somewhere else, so he just go sit out the rest
Speaker 3: of the season and go transfer somewhere else. I'm hearing
Speaker 3: something about called super seniors now to where they got
Speaker 3: dudes who don't been in college playing college football for
Speaker 3: eight's seven eight years? Though? What the hell is going on?
Speaker 4: It's a lot of those, you know, it's a lot
Speaker 4: of seven eight year seniors. I've seen a little report
Speaker 4: on it. Dudes is like innate eighth year.
Speaker 2: Like fuck that.
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not playing it. I'm not playing this year.
Speaker 4: Oh fucky, let me red shirt and he can. Like, dude,
Speaker 4: you're twenty six years old.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: And you know what? Dog? Them kids is getting drafted
Speaker 3: the year the year after COVID. Dude, it was so
Speaker 3: many kids that came back for six years school. You
Speaker 3: had dudes that could have really got drafted the year before,
Speaker 3: but they didn't like their draft grade and they came back.
Speaker 3: It took advantage of the extra year. I'm not going
Speaker 3: to ever be mad at the kids, because they kids.
Speaker 3: They doing what's best for them, right. But the one
Speaker 3: thing I would leave them with eight is this, don't
Speaker 3: go out and play college football just for the bread.
Speaker 3: If you can make money and take care of your family,
Speaker 3: that's all cool, But you got to play this game
Speaker 3: because you love it. Dog. You can't go out there
Speaker 3: playing just because you because of the bad because you
Speaker 3: don't look up and you only got so many years. Dog,
Speaker 3: you go look up and realize, damn, I don't been
Speaker 3: to two or three schools. I've done it. Just so
Speaker 3: much stuff that can change in the year.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2: Eight.
Speaker 3: I think certain situations a kid should be allowed to transfer.
Speaker 3: But I think that if it's a situation dude, the
Speaker 3: way you're leaving for some petty shit, no, you should
Speaker 3: have to suck that stuff up. Because schools are spending
Speaker 3: all this money to go out and recruit these kids,
Speaker 3: right and you don't even know if they gonna be there.
Speaker 3: And I'm gonna tell you that the messed up part
Speaker 3: about it is messed up on all sides. Because a kid,
Speaker 3: if a god, is recruiting your son this year, your
Speaker 3: son might get to that school. That dude might be
Speaker 3: going a year from now, and it may be a
Speaker 3: whole of the staff to come in here that don't
Speaker 3: like your son, don't care about him because guess what,
Speaker 3: he don't win and recruited his own quarterback. He don't
Speaker 3: care about Karan. He don't care about Christopher because he
Speaker 3: don't win and got his own players.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sort of something like what I'm trying to
Speaker 4: tell Karan right now. You know, dudes come and go,
Speaker 4: you get me. You see it in the NFL, you
Speaker 4: see it in motherfucking college. You know, uh OC or
Speaker 4: do to be coaching today and tomorrow next season. Shit,
Speaker 4: but fuck, coach s would be telling you know, we
Speaker 4: got we got new OC coming in, we got a
Speaker 4: new quarterback coach coming in, we got a new running
Speaker 4: back coach coming in. You know it's you and the
Speaker 4: dude who went after you. He didn't jump, shifted and
Speaker 4: went somewhere else. So it's just it's just what it's
Speaker 4: unfortunate of what of what has happened as far as
Speaker 4: college and high school and what sports is in polo
Speaker 4: tics and all of that shit. A lot of shit changes.
Speaker 4: And unfortunately with our generation of sons, you know, and athletes,
Speaker 4: a lot of our a lot of our youth are
Speaker 4: blinded by you know, the fucking the ailments of success,
Speaker 4: the ailments of money.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 4: Shit, what sixteen year old kid right now in high
Speaker 4: school who's being talked to about recruiters in nil It's
Speaker 4: gonna give a damn when you're telling them all nigga,
Speaker 4: I can get you two hundred grand next year you
Speaker 4: get me, It's like it's it defeats the purpose, like
Speaker 4: how can you? And then when you have a family,
Speaker 4: you know who's you know, not as fortunate or maybe
Speaker 4: in the struggle, and you know you're telling them here
Speaker 4: your son, your son can make three hundred grand if
Speaker 4: he come over here and ump he.
Speaker 2: Wumping, and so a lot of the.
Speaker 4: A lot of the hard work determination, let's get to
Speaker 4: the league type of shit.
Speaker 2: Nigga, that's south the window.
Speaker 4: Nigga, wen snatch three hundred right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what the crazy part about it? Else, man,
Speaker 3: you can start seeing a lot of kids that have
Speaker 3: really great college careers be sub part pro careers. Because
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, dog, if you can make three
Speaker 3: half a million dollars a year in college football, that
Speaker 3: means you might leave it up up with something two
Speaker 3: million dollars in the bank. And shit, the kid started life.
Speaker 3: Bigga kid.
Speaker 4: Ship to a seventeen eighteen year old, nineteen year old nigga, please, nigga,
Speaker 4: I can go to college for the next three for
Speaker 4: three years and and come home with about two.
Speaker 3: And when the quarterbacks really go eat because I'm gonna
Speaker 3: tell you now, Dog, I don't know how much Miller
Speaker 3: Moss getting paid. And I got to take something back.
Speaker 3: Miller Moss is not a bad quarterback. So I don't
Speaker 3: want nobody to think I'm just Miller. I asked you
Speaker 3: like Miller Mass and respect him whole likes. You know
Speaker 3: why because he was a freshman there Chris is last year. See,
Speaker 3: he was a freshman. He stayed there through all the quarterbacks,
Speaker 3: the dog. He stayed after the Caleb do he stayed
Speaker 3: there and waited his turn. When Caleb left and didn't
Speaker 3: play in the bowl game, he went out there and.
Speaker 2: Showed it out.
Speaker 3: So he really has earned the spot to lead that
Speaker 3: team right now. Right, I'm just saying we need to
Speaker 3: do something different. Dog, were gonna win some games, and
Speaker 3: it might not be him, Dog because some of the
Speaker 3: play call and it's been atrocious. I've seen them call
Speaker 3: some plays and I'd be like, what the hell is
Speaker 3: they out there doing?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to really, like I said, when they
Speaker 4: come to the play calling and scoring and all of that,
Speaker 4: you have to really play to the kids' abilities. And uh,
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes we have these programs to where it's like,
Speaker 4: you know, trust the process, trust the process, and uh,
Speaker 4: sometimes you gotta be like, you gotta trust the athlete.
Speaker 2: You feel me.
Speaker 4: I know Karen can go out there and create if
Speaker 4: he's given the opportunities to create.
Speaker 2: But if he's if he has to follow.
Speaker 4: The trust the process, then a lot of times things
Speaker 4: that you think that should be happening, or calls that
Speaker 4: you think should be going, they're not going to be
Speaker 4: going because the because the coaches go and trust the process.
Speaker 2: This is what we want to do.
Speaker 4: You give me and some and then some coaches get
Speaker 4: to the point to where, oh, we're gonna run this
Speaker 4: motherfucker until it work. Do you understand me, Oh, we
Speaker 4: called that play three plays ago. Okay, then call that
Speaker 4: motherfuck again, going to the opposite way, because I know
Speaker 4: this motherfucker gonna work, even you get me. Some coaches,
Speaker 4: some coaches be on that. So it's the whole you're
Speaker 4: gonna trust this process. No, you're not gonna do this
Speaker 4: and scramble out and then roll out to the right
Speaker 4: and then look for a miraculous receiver breaking down field.
Speaker 2: Naw, I don't want that.
Speaker 4: I want you to do what the fuck I said,
Speaker 4: do what I called in So if I called in
Speaker 4: the motherfucking screenplay. Run the fucking screenplay. I don't give
Speaker 4: a fuck if the outside receivers beating the motherfucking corner
Speaker 4: on every motherfucking route. I said, what the fucking screenplay?
Speaker 3: And you know what, at some point these coaches gotta
Speaker 3: stop doing shit that don't work. But I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you something. Look, look at this last year Vanderbilt was
Speaker 3: two and ten. Right when they SEC player didn't win
Speaker 3: the game in SEC. They coach went out and got
Speaker 3: something like forty five brand new players. One of them
Speaker 3: was the quarterback for my alma mater, New Mexico State.
Speaker 3: There was a baller, right they go walk there in Whack,
Speaker 3: Alabama this past weekend, the transfer portal dog is something
Speaker 3: else do? From now, you just think how to coach
Speaker 3: at New Mexical State might be feeling out he can't
Speaker 3: compete with no Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt got way more money than
Speaker 3: the Mexical State got. He watching this quarterback walk there
Speaker 3: and throw to three hundred yards against Alabama, especially if
Speaker 3: they losing. Now he's thinking like them.
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, it's unfortunately, because you know, if
Speaker 4: if your if your athletic finances ain't what the next
Speaker 4: schools is. Then definitely, and then especially that's gonna come
Speaker 4: if your players ain't happy, and then people start you know, uh,
Speaker 4: you know, and and it's not that the players ain't
Speaker 4: happy in their situation, but it's it's that situation. And
Speaker 4: if a motherfucker go out and somebody getting their ear
Speaker 4: and telling a nigga, if you get the portal, I
Speaker 4: guarantee you somebody will pick you up and give you
Speaker 4: about a million dollars. You get me, They're gonna they're
Speaker 4: gonna leave. Like because first of all, do I want
Speaker 4: to go to the league, Yeah, I want to try.
Speaker 2: But you're guaranteeing me a million bucks right now? You
Speaker 2: get me. You want to go to the league because
Speaker 2: you want to play and you want to make.
Speaker 4: Money, right shit, Nigga, I'm in college and I want
Speaker 4: to play and I want to make some money. So
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to compete, you get me. Uh,
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to compete when your pocket, when
Speaker 4: your when you only got one hundred dollars in your
Speaker 4: wallet and a nigga.
Speaker 2: Next to you got a thousand. You get me.
Speaker 3: I don't think Vanderbilt ain't got no bread Vanderbilt is
Speaker 3: sec school, been around a long time. They got alumni
Speaker 3: down there that's been one.
Speaker 4: Of the wins, and Nashville and good old boys and
Speaker 4: you know Elvis Presley and all that.
Speaker 2: You got. Damn right, Vanderbilt got some money.
Speaker 3: Things and you know, Diego Pavia, unknown quarterback, he kind
Speaker 3: of remind me of you, kind of remind me of
Speaker 3: Kron a little bit. Unknown dude, go out there, karun.
Speaker 3: This dude had two hundred and fifty three for two
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty two yards and two takedowns and rushed
Speaker 3: for almost sixty yards and was playing behind three new offense.
Speaker 3: They got an offensive line from Mississippi State, one from UTAP,
Speaker 3: and one from Liberty. Now the U tap of Liberty
Speaker 3: ain't no big time kids, but I bet you was
Speaker 3: the best kids on the team exactly. So he going
Speaker 3: to go find the best kids somewhere at the programs
Speaker 3: who may not be that sexy necessarily, and he going
Speaker 3: out there and doing this thing. Yeah, they out They
Speaker 3: out rushed Alabama four hundred and eighteen yards three hundred
Speaker 3: and ninety four. No, they had more yards than Alabama.
Speaker 3: They had four hundred eighteen yards at Alabama three hundred
Speaker 3: ninety for the Russian They had one hundred and sixty
Speaker 3: six to Alabama's eighty four, and they also converted twelve
Speaker 3: eighteen third downs and went one on one for the
Speaker 3: fourth downs. They went up there with the Alabama's ass
Speaker 3: pretty much.
Speaker 2: Well, they didn't. They didn't, like you said, they didn't.
Speaker 4: Alabama probably thought it was gonna be a lay down game,
Speaker 4: and they was like, fuck that. We didn't went into
Speaker 4: the portal. We got significant players. So you know, once
Speaker 4: they got punched in the mouth and then Vanderbilt punched
Speaker 4: them back, they knew, Nigga, we came to fight.
Speaker 3: We didn't come to lay down today. So yeah, now
Speaker 3: think about this though, it's a change in college football coming.
Speaker 3: You remember, dog, It used to be pretty much you
Speaker 3: could predict who was gonna be in the hunt for
Speaker 3: a national championship. Last year, the last two national championship
Speaker 3: games Michigan, Washington, Texas Christian. They may know, like you know,
Speaker 3: Michigan a respectable program, Washington like those all three respectable programs,
Speaker 3: but they wasn't exactly in the conversation when you start
Speaker 3: talking about national championships.
Speaker 2: Hell, doll, you feel what.
Speaker 4: I'm saying, say, back to the championships, you think of Alababball,
Speaker 4: Ohio State, Georgia, maybe throwing a Clempson or fucking Michigan
Speaker 4: or you know something like that, you don't really necessarily
Speaker 4: be thinking of you know, TCUs and shit like that.
Speaker 3: See. And that's one thing about this, the one thing
Speaker 3: that college football. And I'm gonna tell you this, every
Speaker 3: team in the SEC got breed. Every team, every team
Speaker 3: and the big team got money. All these programs got money.
Speaker 3: Every team even in the Pact will got bred bro.
Speaker 3: So that means that any year, at any given time,
Speaker 3: somebody can have a good football team and they ain't
Speaker 3: necessarily about going out of getting the sexy players. If
Speaker 3: you really going out in the road and you recruiting,
Speaker 3: because I think what Vanderbilt did. They said, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm I go go after the same kids Alabama going
Speaker 3: after that. I'm gonna go find me some good players.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go find me a player from over here
Speaker 3: that's good, a player from over here that's good, and
Speaker 3: a playerff over here. And I'm gonna tell you to
Speaker 3: keep going away. Is going you go see teams like
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt winning national championships, well.
Speaker 2: Most bread a level of the playing field. You get me.
Speaker 4: You don't just got to go to the Alabama's in
Speaker 4: the USC's anymore to you know, be on a significant
Speaker 4: team like now, with like you said, with the portal
Speaker 4: and n I L and and the award and college
Speaker 4: players money and all that ship, you're gonna you're gonna be.
Speaker 4: You're gonna start seeing players be able to go more
Speaker 4: of you know where I want to go. I don't
Speaker 4: need to go to Alabama. I don't need to ship.
Speaker 4: I can go to Old Miss, I can go to Vanderbilt,
Speaker 4: I can go to So and So.
Speaker 2: I could go over here.
Speaker 4: I can go over there because they've got enough players
Speaker 4: on their team, uh that they have snatched through the portal,
Speaker 4: who have played significantly that you can build a championship
Speaker 4: roster with.
Speaker 3: And you staying the chance of places. What happened is
Speaker 3: a lot of the days past, a team like Alabama
Speaker 3: will recruits you, but they recruiting you because they want
Speaker 3: to have two or three of you.
Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 3: He's gonna be that one, you know for sure, I
Speaker 3: go down here and do what I'm supposed to. I'mna play.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna start, you'll be the two and three on
Speaker 4: Alabama sitting where you could be the number one or
Speaker 4: two somewhere on a you know, on a on a lesser,
Speaker 4: lesser publicized team. But ship, we can still give a
Speaker 4: motherfucker a run for their money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't care what nobody say, bro, every
Speaker 3: kid that go on to college play college football has
Speaker 3: aspirations to go to the NFL.
Speaker 2: Exactly, even if it.
Speaker 3: Ain't to say every kid. Every kid ain't saying Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be a first round draft pick, but it's
Speaker 3: every going there. Like, man, shoot, I wouldn't mind getting
Speaker 3: me a little tryout.
Speaker 4: Exactly to go play, especially if you're a die hard
Speaker 4: you know, and that's whatever football, basketball, baseball. If you're
Speaker 4: a die hard athletic person and you've been doing shit
Speaker 4: since you was a kid, and it's been transition over
Speaker 4: from kid play and you've played to serious thirteen fourteen
Speaker 4: year old play, and then you in high school, you know,
Speaker 4: starting on the varsity team, you start having that, you know,
Speaker 4: you start having aspirations.
Speaker 3: Yeah for real, for real, you know, I want to
Speaker 3: get back a little bit on our side of the world.
Speaker 3: What do you think about the jag World, right, Bro, I.
Speaker 4: Don't really I don't pay too much attention to a
Speaker 4: lot of the controversial podcasters, you know, what content made
Speaker 4: their stories in there or whatever whatever. I try to
Speaker 4: stay away from that. So but I'm familiar to get you.
Speaker 3: Know the dangerous part about that, man, She's went from
Speaker 3: going on these you know, she's went from going on
Speaker 3: these shows. Man, you know YouTube shows right to where
Speaker 3: I think a week ago she was on a on
Speaker 3: a on a pretty big show, right, and now you
Speaker 3: know she goes out. It's a difference when you want
Speaker 3: to when you're on YouTube talking to a couple hundred
Speaker 3: thousand people right to now you on primetime TV talking
Speaker 3: to millions of people around the world, and they believe
Speaker 3: in this bullshit. You walked there seeing what's the dude,
Speaker 3: what's the catch name?
Speaker 2: Whose show was?
Speaker 3: She? She was on the on Piers Morgan, right, right,
Speaker 3: And she goes on there and talks about jay Z
Speaker 3: and Beyonce. Jay Z and Beyonce got their legal team
Speaker 3: on it now and the Peers Bronson dude is apologizing.
Speaker 3: But that's the dangerous of this shit. I told Glasses
Speaker 3: this a long time ago. We was in Glasses was
Speaker 3: on his YouTube shit early he was looking at all
Speaker 3: these weird motherfuckers that was on YouTube, and I said, man,
Speaker 3: this is gonna wind up being the worst shit in
Speaker 3: the world, because you gonna have any crazy motherfucker that
Speaker 3: become famous overnight.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying. You don't have the verb.
Speaker 3: You don't have this catch like the crypt mac dude.
Speaker 3: Now you got this woman, you got the other dude
Speaker 3: that used to be a child start he bes olding
Speaker 3: there saying crazy shit. And these people are starting to
Speaker 3: get mainstream attention now.
Speaker 2: I mean, because that's what the play is for.
Speaker 4: People find out that controversy and a lot of shit
Speaker 4: gets you elevated, because, let's face it, people want to
Speaker 4: People love mess and shit. You get me, They love it,
Speaker 4: You get me. I don't want to hear about how
Speaker 4: your day is all good and you woke up this
Speaker 4: morning and the sunshine is all that nigga. I want
Speaker 4: to hear something about, nigga, you woke up this morning
Speaker 4: and somebody busted all your windows out your car, or
Speaker 4: last night you was at the show and something happened
Speaker 4: or blah blah blah, or you know. People like to
Speaker 4: hear shit, so it gives you a It gives you
Speaker 4: an automatic foloity wing, whether it's negative or positive. People
Speaker 4: like that look at it like shit. It's publicity and
Speaker 4: people talking about it, so fuck it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they made him cut this stead of lawyers of
Speaker 3: jay Z and Beyonce had responded to the bizarre claims
Speaker 3: made by Jack were Right on her recent appearance on
Speaker 3: the show Appears Morgan Uncensored. They have sent the legal
Speaker 3: notice to Morgan regarding the episode. With Right's appearance, Right
Speaker 3: talked about the reach and the rest and allegations on
Speaker 3: Ditty and the related stories spurting around the topic. The
Speaker 3: legal notice demand that Morgan cut the defaming comments from
Speaker 3: his show made by her about the couple. During Wright's
Speaker 3: appearance on Morgan shows, she claimed for four years, I've
Speaker 3: been screaming not just Didty, but Diddy and jay Z
Speaker 3: are monsters. She also insisted that hundreds of victims of
Speaker 3: the music couple have stories about what they have experienced.
Speaker 3: After her appearance went viral, Morgan revealed that he was
Speaker 3: contacted by Beyonce and jay Z's lawyers, who have stated
Speaker 3: that the claims made were totally false and have no basis.
Speaker 3: In fact, in the new broadcast, Morgan said, the thing
Speaker 3: about platforms, the reality of the modern world is that
Speaker 3: pretty much everyone has a platform as long as they
Speaker 3: have something to say that other people want to hear.
Speaker 3: That's why we invited her on to be interviewed. See,
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. So if I go on here
Speaker 3: and start talking about man, you know what, such and
Speaker 3: such ain't really a woman, She's really an alien. And
Speaker 3: if that catch enough attention, I'm gonna be on on
Speaker 3: the tonight show talking about.
Speaker 4: Something because people look at it like we need to
Speaker 4: snatch them ratings before somebody else does.
Speaker 2: And I don't give a fuck, but.
Speaker 4: It's a lot of people inquiring about what she's saying
Speaker 4: about jay Z and Beyonce because of the fucking Diddy shit,
Speaker 4: So we need them ratings.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, listen, listen to shit. This woman don't say it.
Speaker 2: She right.
Speaker 3: Has previously made several other claims against jay Z, Beyonce,
Speaker 3: and several other celebrities. Earlier, she alleged that the couple
Speaker 3: put people on planes after rendering them unconscious and keeping
Speaker 3: people against their will. So she's saying beyond seeing jay
Speaker 3: Z kidnapping people. She also claims in the same conversation
Speaker 3: that Nicki Minaj owns an audio tape to recorded Meek
Speaker 3: Milan Diddy having sex at one of the latter's freak offs.
Speaker 3: Her other claim includes Justin Bieber and Odell Beckham Junior
Speaker 3: hooked up and Diddy was behind the desks of kim
Speaker 3: Porter Heavy d and Andre Herrell Right also mentioned that
Speaker 3: the Roots had was a witness to r Kelly hind
Speaker 3: Girls for his sexual escapades. This stuff is crazy, dog.
Speaker 3: She can go out and say pretty much whatever she
Speaker 3: wants to. And we just in this era right now
Speaker 3: to where somebody can go on the internet until a
Speaker 3: bull faced lot. You remember it used to be a
Speaker 3: thing journalism, like when you had if you was talking
Speaker 3: to somebody's source and you said something, they had to
Speaker 3: have you corroborate that with two other people. They just
Speaker 3: couldn't put anything they wanted to do in that magazine
Speaker 3: just because you said that. Now people is just running
Speaker 3: to the airwaves with this bullshit. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 3: you now, once you ruin somebody's reputation, dog, it's hard
Speaker 3: to get it back.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, people used to deal with fact check
Speaker 4: and shit you know, that's what journalism used to be.
Speaker 2: Journalism. Real journalism used to be.
Speaker 4: Where you know, if I heard a story or I
Speaker 4: heard a rumor, I'm gonna fact check it first. Second
Speaker 4: of all, you're not gonna be able to.
Speaker 2: Get the source of my shit.
Speaker 4: You get me until I confirm that everything is true.
Speaker 2: That was journalism.
Speaker 4: You know, we've moved from journalism to content and and.
Speaker 2: And and clicks and shit.
Speaker 4: So it's more popular to assume some shit and get
Speaker 4: that content of assumption out so people can be the.
Speaker 2: Judge of whatever, because is it true.
Speaker 4: I don't know if the ship is true, but I
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck. I'm just gonna put it out
Speaker 4: there just so it's out there. And so now it
Speaker 4: just brings up reasonable doubt. You get me just because
Speaker 4: of who people might think that jay Z and Beyonce is,
Speaker 4: you know, because they're billion dollar couple and they got
Speaker 4: all this money, and you know how people think of
Speaker 4: people when they got.
Speaker 2: A gang of money. They just do the weird ship.
Speaker 4: Anybody who anybody basically who we see as a person
Speaker 4: of you know, financial wealth beyond what you know, a
Speaker 4: typical you know, dough boy or the dough boy's.
Speaker 2: Girl, you know, you know whatever, or you could.
Speaker 4: Be a you know, a nice black, wealthy, you know,
Speaker 4: regular couple.
Speaker 2: But when you.
Speaker 4: Exceed that financial expect expectations of the normal nigga, you
Speaker 4: get me.
Speaker 2: The nigga who.
Speaker 4: You know, sitting up in their garage having conversations every
Speaker 4: weekend with the home needs.
Speaker 2: And whatever whatever.
Speaker 4: When you get to exceed and you're a billion dollar nigga,
Speaker 4: you get me. You're were weird, something weird going off.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 4: You just can't be just a regular nigga with a
Speaker 4: billion dollars.
Speaker 2: You gotta be a weirdout something like that. Exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's getting real many out there right now. Man.
Speaker 3: And crazy part about it, it's people is actually paying
Speaker 3: these people to come on their platform.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: Some of these people make pretty big money to come
Speaker 3: on the show. Oh definitely, they get their.
Speaker 4: That's their financial you know, that's their financial stability. Think
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go around and do interviews at all the
Speaker 4: big podcasts make money, and you know that's they angle.
Speaker 4: So I got to keep something to where those shows
Speaker 4: want me, you.
Speaker 2: Know, to come on.
Speaker 4: You know, I can't be making no bread during the
Speaker 4: do the homies podcasts.
Speaker 2: In his living room or you know, you know the.
Speaker 4: Backyards whatever podcast and you know, diggers want to slide you,
Speaker 4: you know, some weed and little drink and come out.
Speaker 4: You know, these are the podcasts willing to pay a
Speaker 4: motherfucker thirty and forty and fifty thousand to come on
Speaker 4: their shows. And you know, because they're looking for that content,
Speaker 4: because they're looking for the.
Speaker 2: Fact that I got a motherfucking.
Speaker 4: Two million followers or two million listeners, and they gonna
Speaker 4: listen to this motherfucker with this crazy rant shit. So
Speaker 4: and it's just gonna make my motherfucking numbers go up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I've seen it, man. The one thing, right,
Speaker 3: you got cats like, you got a bunch of controversial,
Speaker 3: different controversial people. You got the Charleston White cat, right,
Speaker 3: you got Charleston White, You got the jag Warrick, the
Speaker 3: jag warkshit. You got a couple other people, right, all
Speaker 3: of these other people, all of these people have achieved
Speaker 3: a certain level of fame by just saying the first
Speaker 3: thing that come to their mind and not given the
Speaker 3: damn about what they talk about. The one thing I
Speaker 3: will say about Charleston Wright, Right, We've had him on
Speaker 3: the show before. The one thing I will say about
Speaker 3: him is that wherever he say online, he will say
Speaker 3: to your ass in person.
Speaker 2: He will say that.
Speaker 3: He will say to your ass in person. Some of
Speaker 3: these other people they kind of took their tail a
Speaker 3: little bit and run or whatever. But it's getting real crazy.
Speaker 3: Now you go start seeing a lot of lawsuits. I
Speaker 3: know Cardi b suit the held out to one shit
Speaker 3: bullard name Natasha K Girl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, they gotta start being careful. And
Speaker 4: that's why I'm always you know, particular about subjects or
Speaker 4: people we might discuss on the show.
Speaker 2: People get you.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't want to have Jaguard righting against the chronicles.
Speaker 4: I mean no, why because you can't fact check any
Speaker 4: of her ship. You can't just go off of just
Speaker 4: in your window of what she might feel.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 4: Uh, you can't have a person come on there, uh,
Speaker 4: degrading a person and saying all kind of shit about
Speaker 4: them and we don't know if it's true or not.
Speaker 4: We just gonna let the motherfucker just Yeah, that motherfucker
Speaker 4: won't he won't, won't he won't, And now we're gonna
Speaker 4: be getting fucked with because why would we allow that,
Speaker 4: you get me, Why would we allow just a person? So,
Speaker 4: like I said, from the from from the biggest to
Speaker 4: the smallest, it don't matter who only gainst the chronicles. Uh,
Speaker 4: just as long as your ship is authentic and you
Speaker 4: are authentic, motherfucker, And whether you've come from the street
Speaker 4: line life or sport life or whatever. We just want
Speaker 4: the conversation and the tales to be authentic, not to
Speaker 4: be just in your window of what you feel or
Speaker 4: a person may feel he has to be as a
Speaker 4: guest to get popular on the show. Like, I don't
Speaker 4: want that shit. I don't need a motherfucker coming on
Speaker 4: my show, you know, with her opinions about what she
Speaker 4: feel that somebody else might be or what they might
Speaker 4: Now you keep your opinions to yourself, and let's just
Speaker 4: discuss who you are, and let's just discuss, you know what,
Speaker 4: the issues you have with people and why are people
Speaker 4: you know not viable as far as when it comes
Speaker 4: to your stories. How come your stories aren't viable and
Speaker 4: you don't do fact checks? And you know, what is
Speaker 4: your truth over someone else's truth?
Speaker 3: You feel me well, you know what, like it's like
Speaker 3: you even got a certain sector rappers that be dissing
Speaker 3: people's dead homies and making fun of people going to
Speaker 3: people's graves and graves and rapping up the cemetery and
Speaker 3: stuff like that. It was a kid that just died
Speaker 3: not too long ago name Julio Foolio. And I saw
Speaker 3: somebody his homies talk about, yeah, he up and heaven
Speaker 3: doing this now, and I was just thinking, I said,
Speaker 3: I don't know why they believe that dude is in heaven,
Speaker 3: because if it's a hell, I definitely believe that little
Speaker 3: fool is there. That dude started the gang and shit, yeah,
Speaker 3: he started the whole gang and shit. Man, I think
Speaker 3: that after a while. Man, you put yourself out there. Man,
Speaker 3: when you get the way, you just say anything. Bro,
Speaker 3: you gotta be prepared for the shit to come with that.
Speaker 3: Everybody not playing. Everybody not go sitting in their lawyer, everybody,
Speaker 3: and everybody not go sending their lawyers. I think we
Speaker 3: on all had our situations, man, with this Internet and
Speaker 3: people playing with you and stuff like that. The thing
Speaker 3: is jay Z is a powerful dude. Man. Dude is
Speaker 3: worth a billion to him and his wife is worth
Speaker 3: big as a dollars. Though, do you feel like somebody
Speaker 3: can want to say what they want to.
Speaker 4: And like I said, and that's just the type of
Speaker 4: people that's that's gonna deal with that. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: get what do you think I'm gonna go back and
Speaker 4: forth on a record or a podcast or no, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get my lawyers and we're just gonna dead that
Speaker 4: right and right there, you know what I'm saying. We're
Speaker 4: just gonna kill everything about that and anybody who has
Speaker 4: any type.
Speaker 2: Of affiliation with it, we're gonna kill that ship too.
Speaker 4: So you know, you you have to you have to
Speaker 4: draw the line on what you feel is more important
Speaker 4: to your status of I guess where you're trying to be.
Speaker 2: You get me, is it that important?
Speaker 3: You know what? I guess, ma'am. This whole industry like
Speaker 3: me and you was talking off the air, you were
Speaker 3: saying you thought that was what podcasting was, and that's
Speaker 3: what it's turned into pretty much. Who can say the
Speaker 3: most slatious kind, who can deliver the most slatious content?
Speaker 4: Who is the crazy thing? You know, you have to
Speaker 4: look at podcasting. You know, people want to report ship
Speaker 4: and people want to talk.
Speaker 2: About shit, But it's not the news.
Speaker 4: It's not like you turn on channel you know, seven
Speaker 4: or CNN or whatever, and even though the news is
Speaker 4: getting like that too, podcasting, you know, in that type
Speaker 4: of sense of what I was talking about is who
Speaker 4: can get the most shipped out those type of podcast
Speaker 4: because you know, everybody's podcast is different. Everybody just doesn't.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody don't have the shows where it's just
Speaker 4: we're just gonna talk about rumor and and hearsay and
Speaker 4: and blah blah, you get me. A lot of people's
Speaker 4: podcasts are informative and are interesting to the fact of
Speaker 4: you know, what your interests are as far as when
Speaker 4: you want to sit up and listen to a motherfucker
Speaker 4: talk or conversate. But there are those podcasts who deal
Speaker 4: in those type of situations. Uh, you know, we're gonna
Speaker 4: push you know, hearsay, We're gonna push rumor, we're gonna
Speaker 4: push affiliation, you know, and we don't give a fuck
Speaker 4: about facts and if it's true or not. We just
Speaker 4: need to be able to deliver the content first. And
Speaker 4: that's really and that's really how that situation goes. Uh,
Speaker 4: It's about who can get the content out first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it kind of makes you think even though
Speaker 3: I do believe that did he has done some foul stuff. Man,
Speaker 3: that dude was gonna be pretty much presumed to be
Speaker 3: guilty regardless because the media, now, when somebody goes to trial, right, like,
Speaker 3: let's say I go to trial, right, the first thing
Speaker 3: they go do is put all the speculation out there
Speaker 3: on anything any room that they've heard about me or whatever,
Speaker 3: whether it's true or false. They gonna put that out
Speaker 3: there on me. Now I'm gonna have to court a
Speaker 3: public opinion to deal with, so to speak. Now people thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: this dude is a monster. I heard he did this,
Speaker 3: I heard he did that. Do then this stuff gotta
Speaker 3: be true. So now I can mess around and lose
Speaker 3: my life and be spend the rest of my life
Speaker 3: behind bars just because people.
Speaker 2: Have a certain.
Speaker 3: They figured I'm a certain type of person or whatever
Speaker 3: you feel me. So it's fun, it's real, it's real,
Speaker 3: fucked up right now. Man, the times were living in
Speaker 3: because somebody can ruin your character, no go, and you
Speaker 3: have a whole games believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta be careful nowadays.
Speaker 4: That's why I say, not that you know, we don't
Speaker 4: tread lightly shit, but you know I wanna fuck with everybody.
Speaker 4: You know, We've been approached by a lot of people,
Speaker 4: no disrespect, but you know, it's just not where we
Speaker 4: want to go. Some niggas want to build they shit
Speaker 4: off of shit talking and hating and just constant whatever
Speaker 4: I mean to each his own because like I said,
Speaker 4: that's what some niggas is based off of.
Speaker 2: You get me.
Speaker 4: I'm based my shit off of hating on the nigga
Speaker 4: and talking shit about them niggas every week, and hopefully
Speaker 4: I get enough haters on my team that hate them
Speaker 4: like I hate you feel me, so you get a
Speaker 4: lot of that.
Speaker 2: But I just feel like just trying to keep.
Speaker 4: It clean and not get involved with certain situations. How
Speaker 4: you have longevity, and that's how I've been able to
Speaker 4: be around and sustain even in the even in the
Speaker 4: music business, you know, still being able to tour, still
Speaker 4: being able to you know, do guest appearances and projects
Speaker 4: because I'm not trying to be on the nigga's you
Speaker 4: know shit side to where we going at each other
Speaker 4: with pistols or or fucking shit talking on records and
Speaker 4: all of that shit, and even with the podcast, using
Speaker 4: the platform that constantly just disrespect the nigga like we
Speaker 4: can do, but there's other things me or shit ain't
Speaker 4: based on that.
Speaker 2: So you was.
Speaker 3: Did did you want to phase on love? Every kind
Speaker 3: of squashed the little situation in your head.
Speaker 4: I never you know, it was what it was because
Speaker 4: to me, it was never a situation. He said some ship,
Speaker 4: I said some ship he felt a certain way about.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know my nigga Dave East and that's where
Speaker 2: it laid. Uh.
Speaker 4: We never crossed paths or came to any situations to
Speaker 4: where it should have or whatever.
Speaker 2: So that's how I really look at it.
Speaker 3: It just wasn't that serious lean on that type of
Speaker 3: ship because it can turn series over some bullshit.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Nigga's attitudes and and how
Speaker 4: they feel and what they represent and and if they
Speaker 4: still feel, you know, connected to that type of situation,
Speaker 4: it could turn ugly, and you.
Speaker 3: Know what, it'd be a lot of people that hitting
Speaker 3: you up to come on their podcast, some of them
Speaker 3: guys like that. You ever noticed that they kind of
Speaker 3: fixed the question and try to get you to talk
Speaker 3: about some messy ship.
Speaker 4: Well, you know that's a that's a dude, that's a
Speaker 4: uh that's a podcast. There's a tempt or whatever to
Speaker 4: try to spark up some controversy for his show, because,
Speaker 4: like I said, everybody wants some shit on their shelf.
Speaker 4: You're getting me, let me see what happens.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 4: But I've been doing interviews and talking to niggas for
Speaker 4: so long that I know how to skate around bullshit
Speaker 4: questions that the average motherfucker might get offensive too. But
Speaker 4: I know how to skate around some bullshit to where
Speaker 4: you won't even get an answer to the question. And
Speaker 4: it's not even gonna bother me. I'm not gonna jump
Speaker 4: up and take my mic off and be like, oh man,
Speaker 4: I'm done with this interview. I told you, don't say that. No,
Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna answer the question, and then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna answer it to the point that you ain't gonna
Speaker 4: even realize that I'm not answering the question that you
Speaker 4: just asked me.
Speaker 2: We done, moved on to something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that should be have me done. Man, I'll be
Speaker 3: seeing motherfuckers. I see you on that and I see
Speaker 3: you get that little look. They asked you a question
Speaker 3: you just and they and you could tell they get
Speaker 3: pissed off sometimes he did you hear about the dude
Speaker 3: that spent five hundred dollars of the storage union and
Speaker 3: got like seven and a half million dollars.
Speaker 2: I didn't hear about that one.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, Dude, I guess he has spent the
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars that one of those. I guess you
Speaker 3: need the little show they got.
Speaker 2: You can buy the you didn't buy the units.
Speaker 4: When you go to people who haven't paid for their
Speaker 4: storage units, you go to little auctions in bed on them,
Speaker 4: and so you can paid five six hundred dollars for
Speaker 4: a store. You don't know what's in that motherfucker til
Speaker 4: you break the lock.
Speaker 3: Man. This dude, it was the safe in there, I guess,
Speaker 3: and he paid somebody to come out there and pick
Speaker 3: the safe, try to crack the code in the safe.
Speaker 3: The first person couldn't do it, but the second person
Speaker 3: that came dizn't and it had seven point five million
Speaker 3: dollars in there. Can you imagine how happy the motherfuckers was?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you can you? Yeah? Because somebody lost that shit.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the knick?
Speaker 4: So whoever had it either get died or something like
Speaker 4: because come on, who would leave seven and a half
Speaker 4: million and the Stories you and and all they have
Speaker 4: to do is pay about one hundred dollars a month.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. The scary part about that shit, though, dog,
Speaker 3: is that it's somebody out there that's that's their money
Speaker 3: and they're looking like, man, that motherfucker got my brig
Speaker 3: Because I bet you usually when shit like that go on,
Speaker 3: I definitely believe it's tracks back to some of your
Speaker 3: money or something like that, or some kind.
Speaker 4: Of cartaions money or some robbery or some motherfucker put
Speaker 4: up some shit and then they either went away for
Speaker 4: a long time or it.
Speaker 2: Might be locked up or might be dead.
Speaker 4: And you know, Stories Unit go behind on the pavements
Speaker 4: in Bingo.
Speaker 3: Can you imagine, no, dog, a dude go to jail.
Speaker 3: He done told this old lady, I need you to
Speaker 3: pay for the hun I need for you to pay
Speaker 3: for the Stories Unit, and she just let the shit go.
Speaker 4: On here and he can't tell the motherfuckers. He can't
Speaker 4: kill the motherfucker's bread in there because they gonna go
Speaker 4: take the ship.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, man. Man, I don't know, Dog,
Speaker 3: I know they said that they didn't give dudes identity
Speaker 3: I wouldn't let nobody know who I was, Like, I
Speaker 3: don't want my information out there nothing. I would be
Speaker 3: quiet as hell.
Speaker 2: No, that's a private sale. You can't divulge who bought
Speaker 2: the unit.
Speaker 3: I wonder why, Man, I'll be seeing all the ship
Speaker 3: like that. That with some ship like that happened to me.
Speaker 4: You gotta get it to buy and storage units. Nigga,
Speaker 4: don't buy you some storage units.
Speaker 3: This motherfucker came up on seven and a half million dollars.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 4: You're buying all kind of shit in the motherfuckers nigga
Speaker 4: gold bars, all kinds of shit. So you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's what people's investments. You know a lot of
Speaker 4: people have like little stores and ship who do that
Speaker 4: little thrift stores and ship They.
Speaker 2: Go up in there, find ship, put it up in
Speaker 2: their store, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know what, Oh shit, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I knew that was gonna happen one day. You know,
Speaker 3: Verry White is the very White oft State? Is they
Speaker 3: tripping off of the song and like that? You know
Speaker 3: the old Rodney Yo record, the Everlasting Base record. Uh huh,
Speaker 3: you know how I got to look.
Speaker 2: Un Oh yeah, that's very white nigga.
Speaker 3: That nigga rode Yo probably never cleared that record. Very
Speaker 3: White don't came after them, and cause that record got
Speaker 3: you know, the new first they put out its way
Speaker 3: bigger than the one rode Jo did exactly, and so
Speaker 3: they coming for that bread now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nigga heat on all that nigga. That's motherfucking they like,
Speaker 4: that's our ship.
Speaker 3: They're very White's estate. As launched the legal war of
Speaker 3: a future metro Boom and the kender Lamars song like that,
Speaker 3: we sparked the war with Drake. I always wondered Dog
Speaker 3: and Rodney York probably would have to give up some
Speaker 3: bread too, because he the one that cleared that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Rodney cleared it, but yeah, he never he never told
Speaker 4: them he played that Barry White.
Speaker 3: Uh see, look this is what they've seen.
Speaker 2: So he never cleared that very white.
Speaker 3: Family trust represented by Barry Berry's wid him Glowding and
Speaker 3: White and Jack Perry allegience that like that unlawfuly samples
Speaker 3: White iconic nineteen seventy three track I'm Going to Love
Speaker 3: You just a little Bit More, Babe, the laws who
Speaker 3: claims that the baseline of light that is a direct
Speaker 3: lift from White's original composition like that samples Rodney Yo
Speaker 3: and Joe Cooley's ever Last, and they're saying that was
Speaker 3: never cleared.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because Rodney yup, never cleared it don't ever last
Speaker 4: in base. So for Metro and them to go sample
Speaker 4: ever Last in base pay Rodney, it's not even Rodney
Speaker 4: so on Barry would have took all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, you know what the cold thing about it,
Speaker 3: they saying that they haven't even went after future in
Speaker 3: them yet because they going after they shielded because they
Speaker 3: cleared it through Rodney Yo. So all that money Rodney
Speaker 3: Yo been getting, Dog, he had to give all that
Speaker 3: shit back, brother yeare because it don't got nothing to
Speaker 3: do with them. They went and got a clear from
Speaker 3: who they thought it was. But they knew that shit
Speaker 3: belonged to very White. But I guess that what they placed,
Speaker 3: they didn't settle it directly from his record. All of
Speaker 3: these though, Dog, I don't know what right why you
Speaker 3: think rightyodn't Rodney and them didn't clear that record, dog,
Speaker 3: because they replayed the baseline.
Speaker 4: It was a replay that was that was the times
Speaker 4: back then. Shit, I'm talking about back in the eighties
Speaker 4: and ship like eighty eight, eighty seven, probably eighty five, like.
Speaker 2: You cult DAGs meet.
Speaker 4: Nigga, because I didn't know nothing about clearing records. I
Speaker 4: was a young nigga, just rapping.
Speaker 3: Damn. They asked, man, them dudes asking for Bi White's
Speaker 3: trust is seeking damages over a million dollars, siding unauthorized reproductions,
Speaker 3: digital downloads, and streaming revenues. They gonna be able to
Speaker 3: figure that out. I think if they smart, man, they
Speaker 3: just go ahead and kick that dude down that breade
Speaker 3: and start sharing with them.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 4: You can't even deny it. I mean, why would you
Speaker 4: want to try to deny that? Would everybody know Verry White,
Speaker 4: so you might as well, nigga. I got enough between
Speaker 4: Future and Kendrick and like Kendrick, like nigga, that's not
Speaker 4: my song.
Speaker 2: I'm just a guest vocalist on it.
Speaker 3: They didn't even win after them. They went after Rodney
Speaker 3: Yo and them. I don't know if Rodney Yo don't
Speaker 3: made a lot of money off their record, probably.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Rodney Yo cleared it for them.
Speaker 4: So basically, RODNEYO tried to say, oh, this is my song,
Speaker 4: and so that's why Barry White them is going after
Speaker 4: Rodney Yo, because nigga, you've been using this something motherfucking shit,
Speaker 4: you know, And that's what the that might be there.
Speaker 2: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: Is because you know, their niggas wasn't thinking. They ain't
Speaker 4: know no fucking RODNEYO was And that's what happened back
Speaker 4: in nineteen eighty six, you get me or some shit.
Speaker 4: Barry White men weren't thinking about They wasn't thinking about
Speaker 4: no and they wasn't thinking about no Rodney Yo and
Speaker 4: no rap record and no shit like that.
Speaker 2: No Everlasting Base. Who was a local single, you know, so.
Speaker 4: You know it wasn't like it was Ice Ice Baby,
Speaker 4: you feel me it was. It was Everlasting Base. It
Speaker 4: was a local record, It was a it was a
Speaker 4: bomb ass la record, and you know it didn't go
Speaker 4: that far. You know, it went around, It went around
Speaker 4: and then bingo. So people forgot about it. And so
Speaker 4: that's why you ain't heard nothing from you know shit.
Speaker 4: But you give it to Kendrick Lamar and you know, shit,
Speaker 4: somebody old Auntie or somebody he is gonna be like.
Speaker 2: Like, man, that's a very song right there.
Speaker 3: They probably never heard that record, before. It probably slipped
Speaker 3: into the cracks before.
Speaker 2: So that's how I go.
Speaker 3: You know what, the Rodney Yoda See, this is about
Speaker 3: open up the can of words because they not the
Speaker 3: first motherfuckers to sample that record from RUDNEYO.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but ship let them, let them deal with it.
Speaker 4: We don't even trip off of it. That's their problem, man,
Speaker 4: You know what. That's some that's some good news though
Speaker 4: right there. But no good news for for them. But
Speaker 4: that's damn that's a come up right there. Boy, they
Speaker 4: don't hit a lick. I bet you want to Bary's
Speaker 4: grandkids if somebody heard that motherfucker like that sounded.
Speaker 3: Like Poppa's record, Well, yeah, that sounds like Poppa's record.
Speaker 3: But ship man, I'm glad to have your ass back
Speaker 3: this week.
Speaker 2: Everything good with you now though, Yeah, everything good man.
Speaker 2: Chick Gonna get on up in.
Speaker 4: Here and lay it down, get some more rest and
Speaker 4: ship it's still recouper raising, but you know, back on
Speaker 4: the scene.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we be back in the studio next week then,
Speaker 3: man with shit, I holler at you man, y'all go ahead,
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